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Title: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 28, 2017, 12:52:12 PM


QuoteWe've gathered a team of industry veterans from games like Fallout: New Vegas, Mass Effect, and BioShock to create a faithful reboot of the classic game we all know and love. In System Shock, you'll take on the role of a resourceful hacker as you explore and survive the terrors of Citadel Station brought on by a rogue AI named SHODAN. 

To ensure this reboot is as true to the original as possible, we've been collaborating with the original developers of System Shock 1.  Understanding what they would do differently and keep the same has helped us to refresh a classic in ways Looking Glass Studios would have.

We're making System Shock for gamers that missed the opportunity to appreciate the original, and for the dedicated fans of System Shock 1.  We love talking to our backers, so please help support this project and share your thoughts as we make the best System Shock for all of you!

          — Nightdive Studios

http://systemshock.com/
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Stitch on Dec 28, 2017, 05:33:17 PM
Been following this for awhile. Looking good!
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Randomizer on Dec 28, 2017, 06:22:24 PM
You tellin' me there's never been a thread till now?

I really have to finish the original.  :D
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 28, 2017, 06:39:37 PM
I've always only been vaguely aware of this series but the remake looks pretty damn intense. Definitely going to pick this one up.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: x-M-x on Dec 28, 2017, 08:55:44 PM
Played this before the alpha wasn't that impressed...

but where the hell is SS3? last update on that was may 2016 i think lol
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: lost dragon on Dec 28, 2017, 09:00:14 PM
As much as i loved the Bioshock Trilogy (started the series on PS3, switched to 360 for the sequels and then played through entire series again on PS4), they have paled next to my love of System Shock II on the PC.

So, having never played the original System Shock...i have mixed feelings about this.

Will it feel dated compared to what came after it or refreshing?.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: OpenMaw on Dec 28, 2017, 09:14:30 PM
Considering System Shock 2 wasn't really System Shock 2 until later in the development, i'd say it won't matter too much.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: JungleHunter87 on Dec 28, 2017, 10:41:15 PM
Like Hicks I was aware of the series. I like the atmosphere in this, it reminds me of Isolation. The combat and enemies don't do much for me. I hope that changes with more resources in the kickstarter. If all that improves I'll be glad to play this classic remade.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Jan 04, 2018, 06:30:40 PM
I am a big fan of this series. System Shock 2 is my favorite game of all time. Only played the first one very briefly so it would be great to finally get to finish it. Also, there is a demo and its great!
https://kotaku.com/system-shocks-remaster-already-has-a-playable-demo-and-1782773803
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 05, 2018, 08:15:46 AM
Is that available for download anywhere?
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Jan 05, 2018, 05:31:35 PM
It was at one point in Steam but it seems to have disappeared from the internet. I am quite sure I didn't imagine playing it in 2016. It was a playable first level of the game with about 15 minutes of gameplay.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Naissus on Jan 05, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
This link might work.   https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=9534.0 (https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=9534.0)

Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Olde on Jan 06, 2018, 06:31:03 AM
Anyone else see a connection between this and the Giger art? It was the first thing that stuck out to me. Maybe the original Shodan image is based on something like this.

(https://i.imgur.com/nEQVcpg.jpg)

(https://narrativeinart.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/li-hr-giger1.jpg)

Also if I recall correctly, the Alpha was critically panned because it played like a bad FPS. The trailer doesn't look like it deviates at all from the Alpha, which might mean it bodes poorly for the game.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: JungleHunter87 on Jan 06, 2018, 08:51:11 PM
QuoteAlso if I recall correctly, the Alpha was critically panned because it played like a bad FPS. The trailer doesn't look like it deviates at all from the Alpha, which might mean it bodes poorly for the game.

I hope not. I love the atmosphere in the trailer. However, I cannot deny the combat and enemy A.I. seemed underwhelming.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 19, 2018, 04:43:19 AM
I might have to get this since the movement controls in the original are painfully dated. As in, having to click/drag the mouse in a certain direction to turn dated. 2 is great, would be better if it was less ball bustingly hard and the last two levels and the ending were't crap.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Jan 19, 2018, 06:56:56 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 19, 2018, 04:43:19 AM
I might have to get this since the movement controls in the original are painfully dated. As in, having to click/drag the mouse in a certain direction to turn dated. 2 is great, would be better if it was less ball bustingly hard and the last two levels and the ending were't crap.
Agreed that the ending is bad and there's a big difficulty spike in the last levels. The game just throws Rumblers at you like there's no tomorrow. It helps if you have a good build, an assault rifle with AP rounds does well.

I think the game is at its best in the first 3 Von Braun levels.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Mar 17, 2018, 04:37:12 PM
It seems that the remake has failed, too bad:


Although I am a fan, I did not put any money in the Kickstarter.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Olde on Mar 22, 2018, 04:15:04 AM
If anyone did their research into who Nightdive Studios are, they shouldn't be surprised in the least.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Mar 22, 2018, 04:40:04 AM
Why remake the original? They should have done a third game instead if you ask me.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Mar 22, 2018, 04:39:55 PM
A third game is in development as well, but it might actually be in development hell:
http://shodan.wikia.com/wiki/System_Shock_3
Remastering an original game is OK when you don't change much and just focus on it working well on modern systems (kind of like they did with Grim Fandango: Remastered).
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: KiramidHead on Mar 22, 2018, 09:26:01 PM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Mar 22, 2018, 04:40:04 AM
Why remake the original? They should have done a third game instead if you ask me.

The controls and general interface haven't aged very well, for one thing.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: The Old One on Jan 18, 2019, 03:05:22 AM






Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Sabres21768 on Jan 20, 2019, 02:12:10 AM
I really really wish this had gone somewhere. It was one of the greatest games I ever played.

Second only to CALL OF PRIPYAT.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: The Old One on Jan 20, 2019, 11:26:15 AM
It's a work in progress.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: DarthJoker45 on Mar 21, 2019, 03:18:17 PM
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Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: DarthJoker45 on Feb 25, 2021, 07:14:42 PM
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: DarthJoker45 on Jul 03, 2021, 10:16:40 PM
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: DarthJoker45 on Jan 04, 2023, 09:40:25 PM
It looks like we may finally have a release window for this remake. Fingers crossed.

QuoteWelcome to a New Year, Hackers

After our return from Gamescom we've been hesitant to share anything so as not to spoil any remaining surprises we have in store. However, we've picked a few last things to share before our quickly approaching launch window of March, 2023.

https://www.gameinformer.com/sites/default/files/styles/body_default/public/2023/01/03/050588d0/steam.jpg
As some of you have already pointed out this is not our first time announcing a tentative launch window, but over the past few years much has changed - the scope and scale of the project has evolved dramatically and with Prime Matter joining the project it's enabled us to focus on quality-of-life improvements, bug fixing, and localization support - the last major steps towards releasing a game we're all incredibly proud of. This has also given us time to go back and polish various aspects of the game that needed that extra shine.



You can read the rest from the game's latest Kickstarter update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598858095/system-shock/posts/3699917).
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Gr33n M4n on Jan 04, 2023, 09:55:09 PM
Oh man I thought this project died.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Stitch on Jan 04, 2023, 10:06:51 PM
Considering it's supposed to be released in two months time, and I've pre-ordered it, I hope not!
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Gr33n M4n on Jan 07, 2023, 01:03:57 AM
I hope it succeeds so we can get a remake of System Shock 2, and maybe with a proper ending.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Feb 16, 2023, 11:26:10 PM
A Demo of the remake is out now, and looks good on Youtube (haven't played it yet)
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: DarthJoker45 on Mar 14, 2023, 03:34:17 PM
You have to be kidding me. I am convinced that this game is never coming out.

https://twitter.com/GamesRadar/status/1635620762131353604
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Mar 14, 2023, 07:12:25 PM
Only a few months more!
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Stitch on Mar 14, 2023, 09:25:09 PM
A two month delay isn't too bad. Feels like an actual release date as opposed to a placeholder.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Mar 15, 2023, 09:50:05 PM
I have wanted to play the first System Shock for about 25 years. It will be of course different, as it's a re-imagining, but still very excited for it.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Stitch on Mar 15, 2023, 10:45:13 PM
I've tried to play the first a few times. Never got very far. It's a very advanced game for its time, and that means very complicated controls.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Mar 17, 2023, 11:27:57 AM
Same here, I've played the original for like 10 minutes and promised to come back to it, but never did.
I have finished the second game something like 7 times in my lifetime and it's one of my favorite games ever.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 23, 2023, 12:19:49 AM
The original is still one of the best games I've ever played.
So, I have high hopes for this remake.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: DarthJoker45 on May 29, 2023, 07:03:13 PM
It looks like the wait has paid off.


Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on May 29, 2023, 10:17:27 PM
I cannot believe its finally out, after all these years
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 30, 2023, 09:12:19 AM
Is it as needlessly convoluted, fiddly and annoying as the original two?
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 30, 2023, 10:42:04 AM
Extremely doubtful.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 30, 2023, 11:13:51 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 23, 2023, 12:19:49 AMThe original is still one of the best games I've ever played.

Are the other two games you've played pachinko machines? A good plot is no excuse for how awful an experience System Shock is to actually play.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 30, 2023, 01:52:42 PM
I hear that said about the first one a lot, particularly the maze like level layouts, but not the sequel.

Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Komenja on May 30, 2023, 02:50:03 PM
Glad it's finally coming out. Although since I ordered a physical copy years ago, I'll probably have to wait just a bit longer to get my key, haha.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: KiramidHead on May 30, 2023, 03:52:42 PM
I couldn't even get past the first few rooms in the first game because of how it played. 2 was a bastard at first but I acclimated eventually. The weapons degredation is still shit, though, and the RPG elements can really f**k you over if you don't put points exactly where it wants you to.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: KiramidHead on May 30, 2023, 07:47:34 PM
Watching a friend stream this and the sound is glitched to absolute f**k.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 30, 2023, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 30, 2023, 03:52:42 PMand the RPG elements can really f**k you over if you don't put points exactly where it wants you to.

Bingo. Imagine making an RPG lite where you're given total freedom to build a character, but if you do it any way except how the devs think you should have, the game becomes unpayable.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Sabres21768 on Jun 02, 2023, 02:28:17 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 30, 2023, 11:13:51 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 23, 2023, 12:19:49 AMThe original is still one of the best games I've ever played.

Are the other two games you've played pachinko machines? A good plot is no excuse for how awful an experience System Shock is to actually play.

That would be a "no" and a "please don't be a douche nozzle" just because you didn't like it.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 02, 2023, 11:08:06 AM
I have never played System Shock.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 02, 2023, 12:08:52 PM
It would be noteworthy if you had played anything at this point. 
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Local Trouble on Jun 02, 2023, 12:34:21 PM
Any recommendations?
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2023, 12:13:04 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jun 02, 2023, 02:28:17 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 30, 2023, 11:13:51 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 23, 2023, 12:19:49 AMThe original is still one of the best games I've ever played.

Are the other two games you've played pachinko machines? A good plot is no excuse for how awful an experience System Shock is to actually play.

That would be a "no" and a "please don't be a douche nozzle" just because you didn't like it.

I really wanted to like it, because everyone always talks about how good the narrative is (and I have no reason to doubt that it is), but it's literally, physically unplayable.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Necronomicon II on Jun 03, 2023, 05:12:07 AM
Idk fam this remake looks fire.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2023, 07:10:54 AM
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 03, 2023, 05:12:07 AMIdk fam this remake looks fire.

I'm sure I'll have a device that can play it by the time it's as old as the original.  :laugh:
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Necronomicon II on Jun 03, 2023, 07:16:01 AM
MUTHUR was kind enough to get me a new Alienware gaming laptop with a 3060 vidya card but I've only been playing Isolation. 😂
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 03, 2023, 10:18:06 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2023, 07:10:54 AM
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 03, 2023, 05:12:07 AMIdk fam this remake looks fire.

I'm sure I'll have a device that can play it by the time it's as old as the original.  :laugh:

Thank you for the timetable update.  :'(
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Xenomrph on Jun 06, 2023, 02:17:09 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 02, 2023, 12:34:21 PMAny recommendations?
Chip's Challenge.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Sep 17, 2023, 08:33:05 PM
I'm very happy about the ending song: Public Image Ltd., The Order Of Death.
One of my favorite songs ever and very fitting to the game!
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: DarthJoker45 on Mar 13, 2024, 12:44:33 AM
https://twitter.com/NightdiveStudio/status/1767596823555051906
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Mar 13, 2024, 07:29:37 AM
Reworked finale? Besides the song, the final fight felt a bit off.
I hope it reaches the PC as a DLC or free update as well.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Stitch on Mar 13, 2024, 01:50:15 PM
I believe they're updating the PC version with the new ending and updates at some point after the console release.
Title: Re: System Shock (remake)
Post by: Wweyland on Mar 14, 2024, 12:41:40 PM
Sounds good, but System 2 Remaster and System Shock 3 need to get some focus as well.