Posted by Drukathi
- Oct 01, 2020, 08:15:19 AMI don't want to be that person, but we're talking about a universe where artificial gravity exists and spaceships travels faster than light. And this does not bother anyone. So why does an elevator look ridiculous in Antarctica? Any idea will look good if presented well. And you don't need to be ignorant or an MIT graduate to enjoy the breathtaking spectacle, regardless of your education.
The main thing is that the idea looks believable. Realism? No. People often confuse the two. But believability deepens creativity and allows fictional space to dive into. Whereas realism limits you and forces you to constantly compare and double-check things instead of enjoying the product. After all, the Alien Universe has nothing to do with realism. In a broader sense, believability is when a fictional universe does not contradict itself, its own rules. Whereas realism constantly makes your brain check: whether the fictional universe meets the criteria for the real one. Although this is not necessary. A pure example of overthinking.
The main thing is that the idea looks believable. Realism? No. People often confuse the two. But believability deepens creativity and allows fictional space to dive into. Whereas realism limits you and forces you to constantly compare and double-check things instead of enjoying the product. After all, the Alien Universe has nothing to do with realism. In a broader sense, believability is when a fictional universe does not contradict itself, its own rules. Whereas realism constantly makes your brain check: whether the fictional universe meets the criteria for the real one. Although this is not necessary. A pure example of overthinking.
Posted by TC
- Oct 01, 2020, 03:41:17 AMLocal was pointing out it's not scientifically possible to build a space elevator anywhere but at the equator. If you want one at Antarctica then it's more like a very, very, very tall tower. I think that's what they had in Ad Astra. Can you build a tower 80 miles high? Doubtful, but then again we are talking sci-fi...
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Posted by Drukathi
- Sep 30, 2020, 01:25:09 PMThe space elevator is the most exciting idea. Especially with Antarctica. I mean, a space elevator over the equator? Eh. Sounds... generic? What's down there? It looks like an ordinary generic city. Or some kind of base. Nothing interesting. But the same cities and bases in Antarctica are breathtaking!
Posted by Bonus Situation
- Sep 30, 2020, 12:27:44 PMSpace elevator to Earth
Alien spider hybrids
Ripley clone
Marines and a big bomb solution
Ripley not wanting to go on the mission then going (Aliens)
Nothing in there that excites me unfortunately.
Alien spider hybrids
Ripley clone
Marines and a big bomb solution
Ripley not wanting to go on the mission then going (Aliens)
Nothing in there that excites me unfortunately.
Posted by son_of_kane
- Sep 24, 2020, 03:10:04 PMThe whole Ripley clone thing was just...ugh. Especially when it came to her retaining memories. If Captain Kirk was cloned after his death in Star Trek Generations, his clone would have no memories whatsoever of being on the Enterprise and exploring the galaxy. It's basic scientific understanding. 
Posted by TC
- Sep 24, 2020, 08:13:43 AMQuote from: Local Trouble on Sep 04, 2017, 01:08:20 PM
Space elevators are fine, but they're supposed to be anchored near the planet's equator to take advantage of the centrifugal force of its rotation. A polar space elevator is just dumb.
He also says it's 80 miles high. The actual length is many 1000s of miles. I think more like 2 or 3 Earth diameters.
Still, once he got into writing the script proper he would have (presumably) researched
and corrected these things.
As for the cloning business: Since he, even now, is reluctant to elaborate on how this would work, I'm guessing the details are sufficiently interesting that he thinks they might be recyclable in some future project.
The spidermorphs? Errr... OK... Doesn't immediately grab me. I'd need to hear more about this. There was a time when I was all for the Kenner Toys menagerie. But these days I like my xenos fairly plain vanilla. Maybe 4 arms like the Blomkamp version, but that's about it.
On the whole, though, an interesting read. Always fascinating what other writers come up with.
TC
Posted by KiramidHead
- Sep 24, 2020, 02:43:38 AMThis was an interesting read. I'd love to get my hands on the actual spec, especially since I've read Hazeldine's Blade Runner sequel script, which I think he wrote on spec as well.
Posted by Local Trouble
- Sep 04, 2017, 02:36:25 PMConversely, I always assumed that Antarctica Traffic Control was located at the south pole to minimize the sort of communications interruptions that are routinely caused by Earth's rotation.
I could easily see Anchorpoint Station re-imagined as a space elevator, though. The name fits well and it could act as a dock for heavy detachable payloads like the Nostromo's refinery.
I could easily see Anchorpoint Station re-imagined as a space elevator, though. The name fits well and it could act as a dock for heavy detachable payloads like the Nostromo's refinery.
Posted by SM
- Sep 04, 2017, 02:18:36 PMReckon. Could've looked pretty speccy though.
Posted by Local Trouble
- Sep 04, 2017, 01:08:20 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 04, 2017, 08:10:18 AM
I quite like the idea of the space elevator. I think Tim Lebbon pitched a novel to DH Press along the same basic lines.
Space elevators are fine, but they're supposed to be anchored near the planet's equator to take advantage of the centrifugal force of its rotation. A polar space elevator is just dumb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator
The writer was clearly bending over backwards to marry the concept of a space elevator with "Antarctica Traffic Control," which was wholly unnecessary.
Posted by Whiskeybrewer
- Sep 04, 2017, 11:32:54 AMThis sounds like it could have been an intriguing take. Shame he hasn't leaked the full spec online
Posted by SM
- Sep 04, 2017, 08:58:14 AMIndeed. A bit too easy too. The art was nice though.
Posted by Corporal Hicks
- Sep 04, 2017, 08:56:19 AMI'd forgotten about Fast Track. That comic was just far too short.
Posted by SM
- Sep 04, 2017, 08:23:18 AMThey did it Fast Track to Heaven too.
Posted by Corporal Hicks
- Sep 04, 2017, 08:10:18 AMQuote from: SM on Sep 03, 2017, 08:22:54 PM
I read it at Scified. I think it may have lost something in translation, in terms of composition...
When he approached us, he was a little worried about the translation.
QuoteThe name Earthbound rings a bell, as does the space elevator idea. Beyond that I don't know much about it.
All I've been able to find on it were the extra links I added above. So it's actually pretty nice this interview was released.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 03, 2017, 09:52:15 PM
And a space elevator at the south pole?
I quite like the idea of the space elevator. I think Tim Lebbon pitched a novel to DH Press along the same basic lines.
