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Title: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 02, 2018, 07:20:31 PM



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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: DerelictShip on Dec 02, 2018, 08:41:09 PM
Sounds like this should have been the true ending opposed to the predator killer. Time to find out more on this
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Shaeffer11 on Dec 02, 2018, 08:58:14 PM
Damn it- they blew a chance at AVP
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Mrs.Majesty on Dec 02, 2018, 09:06:17 PM
What? This is an electronic face hugger? What is it for? Predators wanted to enslave humanity and infect them with electronic face huggers? Or I just stupid and did not understand anything.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: proto leech on Dec 02, 2018, 09:45:46 PM
alien has been degraded enough, glad they decided to scrap this shit.

Didnt black try to push for a future avp? Hilarious.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kailem on Dec 02, 2018, 09:53:37 PM
The fact that he says he hopes it makes the deleted scenes implies that whatever this ending was, it was filmed. I'm certainly very interested tp hear the context behind this.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: skull-splitter on Dec 02, 2018, 11:41:27 PM
I knew of the artwork and it kind of implies that Dutch was or ís still an option. Too bad that nanosuit ruined it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Dec 03, 2018, 12:48:03 AM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Dec 02, 2018, 11:41:27 PM
I knew of the artwork and it kind of implies that Dutch was or ís still an option. Too bad that nanosuit ruined it.

Yep.  Looks like the surprise Arnold ending to me.  I'm not sure where everyone is getting AvP from out of this... was something referenced in the script that I missed?   ???
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Shaeffer11 on Dec 03, 2018, 01:08:00 AM
I see Weyland Industries logo I then see it like the Alien skull in Pussyface's trophy case
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Dec 03, 2018, 01:13:33 AM
It's the Weyland-Yutani logo, even.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Dec 03, 2018, 01:20:08 AM
Oooh, gotcha.  I thought people were actually seeing an Alien in there somewhere.  Kept looking for one and couldn't find it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whos_Nick on Dec 03, 2018, 02:48:12 AM
This is really interesting
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 03, 2018, 10:05:38 AM
Looks cool, but I'm still not getting behind all these design decisions to make it look like something we know from the franchise. Just a way to stimulate nostalgia? Style of a spezies should include repeating patterns, colors, materials, tech and all that stuff so the whole concept feels believeable - i get that.

But it's another story to put a Predator head on a dog, a breathing mask shaped like a Facehugger or this killer suit including dreadlocks that just looks like a Nanotech Predator. Feels like you can't come up with a recognizable style (like the generic suit concepts a few weeks ago) so you just make it look as similar as the creatures everyone knows.

That said, i like it - maybe just a cynical designer working for Weyland Yutani :D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: LtJesseRipley on Dec 03, 2018, 11:52:16 AM
It look's awesome!!, Jon and SaraI did a really good job. It looks like it belongs in the Alien Universe its that good :) -  I feel Predator is separate to the ALIEN universe though...... :(  I am only here for the Glorious Alien Content.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 03, 2018, 03:05:04 PM
So he called it a "facehugger breathing apparatus".

I'm trying to wrap my head around that description.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 04:11:06 PM
I'm going to be frank, aside from the craftsmanship-
I see nothing good about this.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: brokentusk420 on Dec 03, 2018, 04:36:10 PM
Quote from: LtJesseRipley on Dec 03, 2018, 11:52:16 AM
It look's awesome!!, Jon and SaraI did a really good job. It looks like it belongs in the Alien Universe its that good :) -  I feel Predator is separate to the ALIEN universe though...... :(  I am only here for the Glorious Alien Content.

It belongs in neither. It makes zero sense to design anything let alone a breathing apparatus after the look of the first violent part of the alien life cycle. The craftsmanship being top notch aside, this is dumb. Yet another stupid idea thought up by this bunch of morons. Who keeps thinking up all this crap or are all of them to blame? No it doesn't belong in the alien universe because there is no gain in designing it after a parasitic organism that latches fo your face.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: brokentusk420 on Dec 03, 2018, 04:53:21 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 04:40:07 PM
I think you're often rather harsh, but I have to agree.

Yeah I often am but this stuff really gets under my skin. These Studios keep giving us crap movies and people do one of two things. Either they love it and it's a crap movie or they hate it but then when even dumber stuff comes out that was either deleted or never put in there they act like it's somehow would have made this movie better. It was cut out for a reason and that cutting out was the smartest thing anyone did on the production of this movie. And that's being nice. But yeah I know I'm rough-around-the-edges Around the Edges I've been working on it I've been talking to people about my issues anger wise.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: 426Buddy on Dec 03, 2018, 05:02:15 PM
I dont get it...

A Weyland Yutani pod with an electronic facehugger?

Time travel confirmed!  :laugh:

Seriously how could that possibly make any sense? But then again nothing in this flick made sense anyway.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 03, 2018, 05:08:10 PM
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 03, 2018, 10:05:38 AM
But it's another story to put a Predator head on a dog, a breathing mask shaped like a Facehugger or this killer suit including dreadlocks that just looks like a Nanotech Predator. Feels like you can't come up with a recognizable style (like the generic suit concepts a few weeks ago) so you just make it look as similar as the creatures everyone knows.

They were approaching this territory, IMO.

(https://i.imgur.com/bOSRGuD.png)

And of course, an alternative to the lore presented via Alien prequels.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 05:09:34 PM
I think you're often rather harsh, but I have to agree.
What's the mentality behind the thing?

A facemask resembling the "Facehugger" a century before it's discovered?
The W-Y Logo, again- a century before the merger of Weyland-Yutani.

Unless you're saying that the merger happened much earlier than...
everything else concerning the subject indicates, the Alien prequels, the Alien films, The W-Y Report.

This coupled with the AVP Alien spear makes me think-
The Predator may actually be the last in the continuity of the "old canon" that contradicts new entries;
AVP, AVPR, AVP 2010, The Predator.

Which, sorry not sorry AVP fans, would be appropriate for the track record of that set of films.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: brokentusk420 on Dec 03, 2018, 05:11:14 PM
Mark my words,  the next moronic direction they will take either of these franchises with be a Chris Pratt character training xenomorphs. Let that set in for a bit. That's the direction this predator movie took.  Nonsensical pandering to the audience while competing with this marvel esque age of films. 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 03, 2018, 05:08:10 PM

They were approaching this territory, IMO.

(https://i.imgur.com/bOSRGuD.png)


Everyone who advocates for Neill Blomkamp's film seems to conveniently forget about that awful concept art.
That shit, is DotS tier.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: brokentusk420 on Dec 03, 2018, 05:16:13 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 05:09:34 PM
I think you're often rather harsh, but I have to agree.
What's the mentality behind the thing?

A facemask resembling the "Facehugger" a century before it's discovered?
The W-Y Logo, again- a century before the merger of Weyland-Yutani.

Unless you're saying that the merger happened much earlier than...
everything else concerning the subject indicates, the Alien prequels, the Alien films, The W-Y Report.

This coupled with the AVP Alien spear makes me think-
The Predator may actually be the last in the continuity of the "old canon" that contradicts new entries;
AVP, AVPR, AVP 2010, The Predator.

Which, sorry not sorry AVP fans, would be appropriate for the track record of that set of films.

Well in my opinion it isn't the old track verses new one. It's the good movies is the bad ones. There to date hasn't been a proper avp movie. Everything past predator 2  has been a dumpster fire. It's like no one making them has seen the originals. They just have some vague idea of a predator movie/design and then pile on their garbage fanboy ideas trying to reinvent the wheel.  If it aint broke don't try to fix it. Which is exactly all they been doing.  And failing miserably. 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 03, 2018, 05:49:36 PM
Hopefully they filmed this scene. I would love to see it. That's a cool design.

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 03, 2018, 05:08:10 PM
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 03, 2018, 10:05:38 AM
But it's another story to put a Predator head on a dog, a breathing mask shaped like a Facehugger or this killer suit including dreadlocks that just looks like a Nanotech Predator. Feels like you can't come up with a recognizable style (like the generic suit concepts a few weeks ago) so you just make it look as similar as the creatures everyone knows.

They were approaching this territory, IMO.

(https://i.imgur.com/bOSRGuD.png)

And of course, an alternative to the lore Alien prequels.

I always loved this.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 06:04:55 PM
It's absolute trash, what's to love about Ripley in Alien cosplay?
One of the stupidest things I've ever seen visually and conceptually from this franchise.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 03, 2018, 06:09:19 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 06:04:55 PM
It's absolute trash

Speaking about harsh...  ;)

On the conceptual art itself, I do get that some people like it, but I'm not a fan either.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: brokentusk420 on Dec 03, 2018, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 06:04:55 PM
It's absolute trash, what's to love about Ripley in Alien cosplay?
One of the stupidest things I've ever seen visually and conceptually from this franchise.

I second that motion. Its is absolute trash. It belongs in a Saturday cartoon or a toy line, but not a movie. Its a terrible fan boy idea i would expect from only a teenager. 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 03, 2018, 07:23:07 PM
Mr H Reviews (a sort of kindred associate of AVP-GALAXY) did a video on this with further analysis and angles of the mask.



To say THE PREDATOR did not have designs on a shared universe with AVP are naive when you clearly have a predator capsule with the Weyland logo and a facehugger mask!

As a fan vying for a 3rd live action AVP film I would've championed this ending. My issue with the predator killer suit we have broken continuity.

Why would we have, relatively, primitive Colonial Marines in stone age military armour and antique dropships and APCs- when a biomechanical suit which merges the user with invincibility and lightening auto aim functions and lazer firepower. Could be reverse engineered and mass produced?

An AVP reveal or even a live Facehugger in container found in PREDATOR specimen jars would've been better.

Instead they went with the superhero singularity conspiracy (Venom being the other 2018 movie to follow this troupe).
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: dHunter333 on Dec 03, 2018, 07:51:17 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 03, 2018, 01:13:33 AM
It's the Weyland-Yutani logo, even.

Shouldn't it just be Weyland at this point?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 03, 2018, 08:10:24 PM
This makes no sense, unless they were angling for time travel. Maybe this is confirmation that they did time travel at the end of the Life and Death comics!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 03, 2018, 08:17:16 PM
I know everyone is just trying to be polite in praising the designs but who here actually wants Predator to be an AVP film?

It's stupid. The ironman suit is stupid. A mechanical facehugger breathing apparatus has no place in a Predator movie stupid.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 03, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 03, 2018, 08:17:16 PM
It's stupid. The ironman suit is stupid. A mechanical facehugger breathing apparatus has no place in a Predator movie stupid.

Don't forget Pred-Monkeys!  :P

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/46963436_10214321602853144_6979584244142047232_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 03, 2018, 09:05:52 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 06:04:55 PM
It's absolute trash, what's to love about Ripley in Alien cosplay?
One of the stupidest things I've ever seen visually and conceptually from this franchise.

It's an interesting next step in Ripley's relationship with the alien. She's "become" the xeno before with their DNA in Resurrection, but now she gets to "become" them in a different way. My opinion of course, but I really love it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 03, 2018, 09:27:41 PM
Quote from: dHunter333 on Dec 03, 2018, 07:51:17 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 03, 2018, 01:13:33 AM
It's the Weyland-Yutani logo, even.

Shouldn't it just be Weyland at this point?

Apparently Fox had only 7 days to come up with an alternative ending, according to Mr H. But your point might be moot.

Having Ms Yutani at the end of AVP-R makes sense cause even by AVP-GALAXY Wikipedia the merger of Weyland Yutani took place in 2099 10 years after Prometheus's "cave painting discovery" scene in 2089, 2122 is when ALIEN happened and had Weyland Yutani on all its logos.

I have no problem implying AVP is in the ALIEN universe.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Brundlepede on Dec 04, 2018, 12:57:35 AM
Its dumb. Fox was dumb. I like Predator. I like Alien. I'm tired of AVP. I'm tired of both franchises being dragged through the muck for the sake of a dumb comic crossover. A dumb comic crossover that was never that good in the first place.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: El Pistolero on Dec 04, 2018, 09:04:28 AM
I think it is just a breathing mask, that's all. But they tried to play around with a facehugger style and the wayland logo. For me it is very obvious that they wanted to tease a new AVP Movie with that scene. But before the production of the movie it was very clear, that Schwarzenegger didn't want to be in it. It seems that scene was for someone else. Maybe Alexa Woods?
With the Alientail-Spear we had already a reference to the AvP movies. Fox seemed all the last year to build up an AvP extendet universe. And I think they pushed for it also in the new movie, but it didn't worked out.

I think the Predator movies work very well with the Alien Franchise together. But I don't think that the Alien Movies will work with the Predator Franchise. We still have an AvP Universe and an Alien Universe separated until we see any Alien sequel with a predator reference in it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 04, 2018, 09:37:26 AM
Quote from: El Pistolero on Dec 04, 2018, 09:04:28 AM
But before the production of the movie it was very clear, that Schwarzenegger didn't want to be in it. It seems that scene was for someone else. Maybe Alexa Woods?

Yeah, I think it's very unlikely it would have been Arnie. He made it clear early on he wasn't being involved in anything like a cameo. I'm so curious as to who they were actually trying to get. Or if they were just going to leave it obscured and for the sequel to sort out.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: El Pistolero on Dec 04, 2018, 12:32:53 PM
I don't know. The whole The Predator movie didn't make any sense for me. The predators had always that self destruct device just to get sure not to leave any tech behind. And now it seems they are giving them predator killer weapons as presents.
It looks like, they ignored everything we already know about the predators. But there was also a scene in Predators I was very curious about. There was the Classic Predator ready to give a whole Space Ship to the human survivors, before the super preds destroyed it.
I like the idea that the predators hunting on earth and they always be sure not to leave any tech behind. It seemed for be to be the highest rule for the hunters and it worked out as a story very well in the Concrete Jungle Game.

But anyway for the movie The Predator, this ending seems to be for me the much more interesting one than the stupid iron man predator suit ending.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 04, 2018, 12:37:22 PM
Interesting? Yes.

Superior? No.

BTW City Hunter left his tech at his ass everywhere.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Dec 04, 2018, 01:03:53 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 03, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 03, 2018, 08:17:16 PM
It's stupid. The ironman suit is stupid. A mechanical facehugger breathing apparatus has no place in a Predator movie stupid.

Don't forget Pred-Monkeys!  :P

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/46963436_10214321602853144_6979584244142047232_o.jpg)

Jesus wept
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: El Pistolero on Dec 04, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 04, 2018, 12:37:22 PM
Interesting? Yes.

Superior? No.

BTW City Hunter left his tech at his ass everywhere.

Yea but he failed to blow up himself.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 04, 2018, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: TheKurgan on Dec 04, 2018, 01:03:53 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 03, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 03, 2018, 08:17:16 PM
It's stupid. The ironman suit is stupid. A mechanical facehugger breathing apparatus has no place in a Predator movie stupid.

Don't forget Pred-Monkeys!  :P

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/46963436_10214321602853144_6979584244142047232_o.jpg)

Jesus wept

Ha!

Quote from: El Pistolero on Dec 04, 2018, 09:04:28 AM
But before the production of the movie it was very clear, that Schwarzenegger didn't want to be in it. It seems that scene was for someone else. Maybe Alexa Woods?

I was thinking Royce or maybe Isabelle but I'm glad it wasn't Lex.

I'm personally yearning for another AvP movie, but a fresh start.  One that is not connected to the previous installments.  One with little to no humans, entrenched in science fiction horror. One that Fox pays a talented writer and director for, and stays away from a serviceable, Uwe Boll or Paul Anderson equivalent. This is the dream unrealized (to me).
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Dec 04, 2018, 02:31:14 PM
Now this would have been really intriguing and a much better ending
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 04, 2018, 02:44:38 PM
"Facehugger breathing apparatus".

The hell is that even suppose to be?

Quote from: dHunter333 on Dec 03, 2018, 07:51:17 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 03, 2018, 01:13:33 AM
It's the Weyland-Yutani logo, even.

Shouldn't it just be Weyland at this point?

Doubt any of them is paying any attention.

Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 03, 2018, 09:27:41 PM
Apparently Fox had only 7 days to come up with an alternative ending, according to Mr H.

Damn they suck at their job.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Hughughug on Dec 04, 2018, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on Dec 03, 2018, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 06:04:55 PM
It's absolute trash, what's to love about Ripley in Alien cosplay?
One of the stupidest things I've ever seen visually and conceptually from this franchise.

I second that motion. Its is absolute trash. It belongs in a Saturday cartoon or a toy line, but not a movie. Its a terrible fan boy idea i would expect from only a teenager.

Lol, I hope you both don't accidentally cut yourselves with all that edge. Seems a bit sharp.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: brokentusk420 on Dec 04, 2018, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: Hughughug on Dec 04, 2018, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on Dec 03, 2018, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 06:04:55 PM
It's absolute trash, what's to love about Ripley in Alien cosplay?
One of the stupidest things I've ever seen visually and conceptually from this franchise.

I second that motion. Its is absolute trash. It belongs in a Saturday cartoon or a toy line, but not a movie. Its a terrible fan boy idea i would expect from only a teenager.

Lol, I hope you both don't accidentally cut yourselves with all that edge. Seems a bit sharp.

You could use some edge. Maybe it will help you cut through a bullshit movie like this one, instead of getting stuck in the muck.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 04, 2018, 11:54:14 PM
Fans: This is the worst idea they could ever come up with.

Ridley/Shane/Fox: Hold my beer.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 05, 2018, 12:48:43 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 04, 2018, 02:44:38 PM
"Facehugger breathing apparatus".

The hell is that even suppose to be?


It sticks the proboscis down its throat, or it gets the tail again.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Dec 05, 2018, 02:21:28 AM
Lol  :D  Some serious one-upmanship going down over at Fox right now.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: ace3g on Dec 05, 2018, 06:19:35 AM
https://twitter.com/alec_gillis/status/1070200592134537216
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2018, 06:29:53 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq_rVADguo1/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1dznkbvcpvxql


Quote from: brokentusk420 on Dec 04, 2018, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: Hughughug on Dec 04, 2018, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on Dec 03, 2018, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 03, 2018, 06:04:55 PM
It's absolute trash, what's to love about Ripley in Alien cosplay?
One of the stupidest things I've ever seen visually and conceptually from this franchise.

I second that motion. Its is absolute trash. It belongs in a Saturday cartoon or a toy line, but not a movie. Its a terrible fan boy idea i would expect from only a teenager.

Lol, I hope you both don't accidentally cut yourselves with all that edge. Seems a bit sharp.

You could use some edge. Maybe it will help you cut through a bullshit movie like this one, instead of getting stuck in the muck.

You could both do with stepping back and remembering we expect people to respect each other here.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Dec 05, 2018, 06:37:07 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 05, 2018, 06:19:35 AM
https://twitter.com/alec_gillis/status/1070200592134537216
Tom and Alec are lovely guys but it's stuff like this I'm glad they do the effects and don't write and direct these movies (as much as Alec's said they're interested).
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 06, 2018, 06:14:45 AM
Saw this movie a bit drunk. Me and my buddies were for sure expecting it to be either a xenomorph or Arnold getting out of the pod.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 06, 2018, 06:16:45 AM
They should've just made AVP3.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 06, 2018, 06:50:18 PM
Agreed SIL.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 07, 2018, 08:13:44 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 06, 2018, 06:16:45 AM
They should've just made AVP3.

From all these elaborate creature designs that ended up on the cutting room floor, it looks like they were in the mood for an expansive film.

So yeah AVP3 would've been better.

Still that could be the next movie hint hint................if they bothered leaving all AVP references in, including this one.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 07, 2018, 08:17:21 AM
I think the facehugger-mask is a clever idea and the prop executes it well, I wouldn't mind seeing NECA drop one into some sort of 'The Predator' accessory pack somehow or something.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Dec 08, 2018, 03:59:23 AM
It's a cool prop but it's a dumb idea.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 06:42:49 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 08, 2018, 03:59:23 AM
It's a cool prop but it's a dumb idea.
A breathing mask that happens to look like a facehugger? I dunno, I think that's a clever and unobtrusive shout-out.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Dec 08, 2018, 07:35:48 AM
It's very on the nose - pardon the pun - and doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's a fanboyish idea that looks cool but not much else.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 07:42:08 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 08, 2018, 07:35:48 AM
It's very on the nose - pardon the pun - and doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's a fanboyish idea that looks cool but not much else.
I agree that it's on the nose, but that's part of the charm for me. I like well-hidden Easter eggs that prompt repeat viewings, but sometimes in-your-face "haha, get it???" callbacks will put a big smile on my face and make me say, "haha, yeah, I DO get it! This is fun!"

I can see how some might see it as obnoxious, but sometimes I think that kind of stuff can be a refreshing change of pace.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Dec 08, 2018, 08:10:25 AM
Or we could not incessantly draw attention to the fact we're watching a film.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 10:25:59 AM
To each their own I guess. :)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Dec 08, 2018, 11:19:54 AM
Goes without saying, I assure you.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: El Pistolero on Dec 08, 2018, 02:19:46 PM
Well these endings are quiet a little hint for a sequel. We got that stupid Iron Man Ending and we could have got this kinda AVP3 Ending. If I could choose between both anding, so f**k you, I deffinitly choose the AVP3 Ending ;)

Ok there was also an Arnie Ending planed. Mybe if they do it very well and scipping this uprade idea and do it with a smaller budget. An Arnie Cameback could save the franchise maybe. But I dont really want to have Schwarzenegger back in this franchise. It isnt the terminator franchise. I dont want to belong to those guys, they believe a predator movie works only with schwarzenegger.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 08, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
Someone asked Fred Dekker on his FB page if this was meant for a Dutch or Ripley cameo and he replied with Yes....
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Dec 08, 2018, 07:18:34 PM
Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 08, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
Someone asked Fred Dekker on his FB page if this was meant for a Dutch or Ripley cameo and he replied with Yes....

This heresy knows no bounds...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 08, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
Here's a screenshot:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 08, 2018, 07:40:08 PM
Maximum dumb B.S.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 08, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
Someone asked Fred Dekker on his FB page if this was meant for a Dutch or Ripley cameo and he replied with Yes....
Just because he said that doesn't mean Ripley was a serious option. Dutch (the extremely likely correct answer) was just among the things listed, and he confirmed it. The person asking the question could have said "Dutch, Ripley, Jerry Lewis, Spider-Man, or Taylor Swift" and the answer to the question is still "yes".
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 09, 2018, 10:09:58 AM
It's no secret Sigourney Weaver hates AVP, each to their own I guess, whereas I always wanted a cinematic AVP.

But its daft to even suggest Weaver would do a cameo even for a paycheck. She doesn't need the money, she's always being cast and she is very protective of the legacy of her ALIEN appearances. As well as integrity in casting in movie and TV in general.

Also how would she, theoretically, comeback?
- Predator time travel?
- Would it be Ripley Clone 8?
- Ripley taken from the Sulaco in the future to prevent Alien 3 happening and preds zapping the upsiddown stowaway Egg with Queen Superfacehugger?
- Would the mechanical facehugger device be to extract the Queen embryo for "the Predator killer"?

Sounds like Star Trek (2009) levels of heresy and retconning.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: skull-splitter on Dec 09, 2018, 12:00:58 PM
What part of Kelvin timeline don't people get?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 09, 2018, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 08, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
Someone asked Fred Dekker on his FB page if this was meant for a Dutch or Ripley cameo and he replied with Yes....
Just because he said that doesn't mean Ripley was a serious option. Dutch (the extremely likely correct answer) was just among the things listed, and he confirmed it. The person asking the question could have said "Dutch, Ripley, Jerry Lewis, Spider-Man, or Taylor Swift" and the answer to the question is still "yes".

Taylor Swift, i'd be down for that  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2018, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 09, 2018, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 08, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
Someone asked Fred Dekker on his FB page if this was meant for a Dutch or Ripley cameo and he replied with Yes....
Just because he said that doesn't mean Ripley was a serious option. Dutch (the extremely likely correct answer) was just among the things listed, and he confirmed it. The person asking the question could have said "Dutch, Ripley, Jerry Lewis, Spider-Man, or Taylor Swift" and the answer to the question is still "yes".

Taylor Swift, i'd be down for that  :laugh:

How you could leave out Tom Jones is just plain criminal.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/YXAVxT2a4Xt9S/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 09, 2018, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2018, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 09, 2018, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 08, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
Someone asked Fred Dekker on his FB page if this was meant for a Dutch or Ripley cameo and he replied with Yes....
Just because he said that doesn't mean Ripley was a serious option. Dutch (the extremely likely correct answer) was just among the things listed, and he confirmed it. The person asking the question could have said "Dutch, Ripley, Jerry Lewis, Spider-Man, or Taylor Swift" and the answer to the question is still "yes".

Taylor Swift, i'd be down for that  :laugh:

How you could leave out Tom Jones is just plain criminal.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/YXAVxT2a4Xt9S/giphy.gif)

Damn you're right ! Unfortunately it's not unusual coming from me to forget the great Tom !  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2018, 03:44:37 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 09, 2018, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2018, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 09, 2018, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 08, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
Someone asked Fred Dekker on his FB page if this was meant for a Dutch or Ripley cameo and he replied with Yes....
Just because he said that doesn't mean Ripley was a serious option. Dutch (the extremely likely correct answer) was just among the things listed, and he confirmed it. The person asking the question could have said "Dutch, Ripley, Jerry Lewis, Spider-Man, or Taylor Swift" and the answer to the question is still "yes".

Taylor Swift, i'd be down for that  :laugh:

How you could leave out Tom Jones is just plain criminal.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/YXAVxT2a4Xt9S/giphy.gif)

Damn you're right ! Unfortunately it's not unusual coming from me to forget the great Tom !  :laugh:

I see what you did there!

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/R0TrhAtNeUC0E/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c0d37f33732647055de83bc)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Dec 09, 2018, 05:10:39 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 08, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
Here's a screenshot:

Surprising that he was so forthright about it.  But I'd imagine that he was more replying to Dutch's involvement, rather than Ripley.  The latter would just be  :o  What.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 09, 2018, 07:44:47 PM
Bringing Dutch back would just about be the most ridiculous thing I could think of doing to this franchise. Even more so than dogs with dreadlocks and the autism angle.

Well, I don't know. Dutch and the autism thing might as well be tied for that.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2018, 01:56:34 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br8g_c3lF8g/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n6wnzbcij8wf

What?!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 02:25:00 AM
WHAT THE?!  RIPLEY?????


(https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0IypeKl9NJhPFMrK/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c26dbe1586a4b58737d92aa)



(https://media0.giphy.com/media/CiYImHHBivpAs/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c26da7a767251444179999b)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: 426Buddy on Dec 29, 2018, 02:31:08 AM
How could that possibly make any sense. If they were just throwing out crazy ideas they should have just had david climb out spitting eggs everywhere.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 02:52:07 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2018, 01:56:34 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br8g_c3lF8g/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n6wnzbcij8wf

What?!

They have got to be joking?

Throwing in AVP and Alien stuff and hoping it would improve the film. They had no idea what they were doing. What a mess.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whos_Nick on Dec 29, 2018, 03:04:20 AM
lol wtf
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: b4dkarm4 on Dec 29, 2018, 03:05:12 AM
For f**ks sake. Either let Disney start getting competent people to make new entries in the series or just kill both franchises off, this shit is f**king painful to hear.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2018, 03:07:40 AM
HAHA holy shit. Bullet dodged.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 03:09:32 AM
Here's a pucture of stunt double Breanna Watkins who "played" Ellen Ripley instead of Sigourney Weaver.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FCu1Mh_hUAAApolD.jpg&hash=623f88886c54ea08b9c3effb24e15f3f2951c3e4)

Now can someone @#$%^ explain to me how in the @#$%^world this can be twisted in a way to make @#$%^^ sense?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Richman678 on Dec 29, 2018, 03:12:44 AM
I still have not seen The Predator. I will also admit I'm more of an Alien fan than a Predator fan. This does not mean i don't like the Predator movies though. In fact Predator 1 is a classic! Predator 2 was also pretty good. Predators was ok and I enjoyed it. Both AVP movies sucked, but the original comic was amazing.

That being said i really feel that Predator showcases the Alien waaaaay more than vice versa...in fact i don't think the Predator has been showcased in any stand alone Alien movie at all.

I think Predator deserves a true Predator fan to direct the next movie, and no Alien stuff!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 03:19:10 AM
So is this canon?  ;D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Buttz on Dec 29, 2018, 03:22:43 AM
Oh the ending of that steaming pile of garbage wasn't the problem...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 03:22:46 AM
Quote from: Richman678 on Dec 29, 2018, 03:12:44 AM
I still have not seen The Predator. I will also admit I'm more of an Alien fan than a Predator fan. This does not mean i don't like the Predator movies though. In fact Predator 1 is a classic! Predator 2 was also pretty good. Predators was ok and I enjoyed it. Both AVP movies sucked, but the original comic was amazing.

That being said i really feel that Predator showcases the Alien waaaaay more than vice versa...in fact i don't think the Predator has been showcased in any stand alone Alien movie at all.

I think Predator deserves a true Predator fan to direct the next movie, and no Alien stuff!

Showcased? Like in the Alien head on the ship trophy wall in "Predator 2"?  I'm not certain I would call that showcasing myself, but it only makes sense one way, as in that way. Predator's are supposed to be the biggest-badass-hunters in the universe. There's no more deadlier prey than Aliens, and a quick display like that signals to the audience that Yautja are the deadliest hunters in the galaxy... even if the movie is really only about human prey.

Having a Predator in the background of an Alien movie serves no purpose, unless it's an AvP movie.

But just the thought of adding Ripley to this is making my head spin.  :P

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/gsGXBlObWmQaQ/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c26e9c450504d62675e6702)




Quote from: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 03:19:10 AM
So is this canon?  ;D

You bet it is!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Dec 29, 2018, 03:32:36 AM
Fuuuck me.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 29, 2018, 03:38:20 AM
Really? Are we sure this isn't a prank? God help us if they ever reveal what the third possibility was.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 03:41:55 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 29, 2018, 03:38:20 AM
Really? Are we sure this isn't a prank? God help us if they ever reveal what the third possibility was.

Arnold Schwarzenegger,
Spoiler
as himself.
[close]
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Predalien39 on Dec 29, 2018, 03:58:02 AM
So F-ing dumb.  My mind is spinning from all the ridiculous decisions made on this movie.  Those of which made it into the film, and those in which wasted all that time and money to pursue such blatantly stupid paths.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: cloverfan98 on Dec 29, 2018, 04:50:23 AM
What the ever loving hell was this? Like the REAL ELLEN RIPLEY? How could they possibly justify adding her into.. you know what? I'm out. This is beyond absurd.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 29, 2018, 04:51:27 AM
It's Amanda. The light reflected in her helmet was a time traveling Predator who wanted her for the war effort against the Chads.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Nukiemorph on Dec 29, 2018, 04:56:26 AM
The Predator-killer armor suddenly seems like the best idea in cinematic history.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2018, 05:11:15 AM
Somebody remind me the year that this movie takes place in cause if that is Ellen Ripley than I am a goddamn chinaman.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: roadkill on Dec 29, 2018, 05:33:44 AM
ffs this is beyond dumb. words are seriously f**kin failing me!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 05:44:56 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2018, 05:11:15 AM
Somebody remind me the year that this movie takes place in cause if that is Ellen Ripley than I am a goddamn chinaman.

Current times, and yes, that's Ripley. How's the weather in Hong Kong?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: JokersWarPig on Dec 29, 2018, 05:58:16 AM
yikes...time traveling has no real place in either franchise...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2018, 07:08:48 AM
Yea forget the bullet, Thermal Nuclear Device dodged!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheYautjaDestroyer on Dec 29, 2018, 07:17:54 AM
wow... and I thought the 'Predator Killer' in the film was a bad idea...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Adam802 on Dec 29, 2018, 07:29:12 AM
Adding Ripley would've been so stupid and made no sense lol
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Darth Cetanu on Dec 29, 2018, 07:42:24 AM
Seriously this movie just keeps getting dumber and dumber
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Uncanny Antman on Dec 29, 2018, 08:21:29 AM
It's quite comical to see just how out of control the thinking was on this movie.  As bad as the finished product is, it's kind of amazing it's not even worse knowing what we now know.  And there's probably even zanier secrets yet to be revealed.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 29, 2018, 09:08:27 AM
I won't retype my response upon hearing about the  ??? concept of Ripley (already covered last month) appearing in THE PREDATOR, but to actually see an on-set photo with crew filming Breanna Watkins with a RIPLEY name-tag, Nostromo style boiler suit is sacrilege! Not to mention
- Sigourney Weaver does not like AVP
- Ripley is from the future, dies and then is a half human/half Xenomorph (after ALIEN Resurrection) an incarnation no-one wanted to see more of
- Do not do a STAR TREK (2009) with "two Spock's"

But to say they filmed it!!!!! They filmed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW 20th Century Fox if you want to make ALIEN VS PREDATOR canon, bring back Sanaa Lathan and Adrien Brody next time.

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: JungleHunter87 on Dec 29, 2018, 09:36:56 AM
I can't believe this was taken as a serious idea for an ending!

Oh wait, this is the same studio that green lit AVP-R.

Never mind. I can totally believe it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 29, 2018, 09:37:29 AM
We're getting trolled, right? There's no way someone at Fox is this stupid. Right?!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Dec 29, 2018, 09:39:38 AM
How can anyone think that was a good idea? Just how?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2018, 10:07:07 AM
~ 'cause this is the type of movie the studios think Millennial's demand. It's the same shit with nearly everything else now days.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Dec 29, 2018, 10:19:16 AM
But why think that? It's just baffeling.

Calling it now, it will be revealed that Fugitive was Royce tranformed into a human-predator hybrid.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TERMINATOR-SSD on Dec 29, 2018, 10:21:18 AM
I honestly think Fox wanted this movie to fail from the start. Knowing about the Disney take over and what not. Everything about this movie was shocking. Apart from the Pred design, his killing spre in the Lab, The super pred and dogs was stupid and....GAHHHHHHHHHH i can't be bothered anymore F this movie just F it. Delete it from history, it never happened....
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
It's amazing how one single concept encapsulates everything you could possibly do wrong with AVP at once.

-Bring back Ellen Ripley.

-Introduce time-travel.

-Ignore realism.

-Retcon the timeline in favor of including a fan-favourite character.
That's dead/hasn't been born.

-(Possibly have an Ellen Ripley ancestor fighting an E.T.)

-Directly connect Alien and Predator.

-Faux "Xenomorph" technology, aka;
non- "H.R Giger" tech that directly resembles the Alien itself.

-Ellen Ripley killing Predators.

-Lineage garbage.

-Predator pining for Alien-chan to notice it,
instead of standing on it's own two feet. Again.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: CainsSon on Dec 29, 2018, 11:22:54 AM
Tell me again how bad the alien prequels are!

And is there a way we can flag this thread or create a hyperlink,as a quick reference for in 6 years , when Disney makes a giant improvements on this garbage and fans hate all over it, because its not R rated or something?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 29, 2018, 11:25:35 AM
What the hell is wrong with those people? Why why why...

Quote from: TheYautjaDestroyer on Dec 29, 2018, 07:17:54 AM
wow... and I thought the 'Predator Killer' in the film was a bad idea...

(https://i.imgur.com/m8vbC48.jpg)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Dec 29, 2018, 11:57:28 AM
According to Hybrid Network (stop laughing at the back) there will be a THIRD alternate ending for THE PREDATOR revealed sometime next week with more props and stills of deleted filmed scenes!

Remember it was, incorrectly guessed, the mechanical facehugger scene wasn't supposed to have been filmed......but now its revealed it was proof of on-set photos.

HN source is Fausto de Martini and Jon K who said "expect more of the same next week"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Pkh2EniXc&t=259s

Taking bets for the next ridiculous idea.

IMO an actual Facehugger jumping out and grabbing a scientist or a PREDATOR tech holding tube for a Facehugger (ALIENS and AVP-R style) would've been better.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Dec 29, 2018, 12:03:51 PM
Nothing beats Ellen Ripley traveling through time\from beyond the grave to be our trump card against a Predator invasion.

Whatever it is, option 3 can not beat that. But my bet is on a facehugger in a holding tube for option 3.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Zak on Dec 29, 2018, 12:13:26 PM
What a crock of shit, this is the last straw for me, I've been a fan of these franchises for 30 years and always will be of the first two of each, however this was the last straw, i'm out from this point on.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Still Collating... on Dec 29, 2018, 12:28:29 PM
Who the hell thinks of this idea and lets it live longer than 5 seconds? Never in a million years would have I believed they would actually go for this. This doesn't even sound like the worst fan fiction ever made for we know how great the fan created content can be, but this sounds like they had no one in their right minds to kill the idea outright. I mean, why was this filmed?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Cruentus on Dec 29, 2018, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2018, 01:56:34 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br8g_c3lF8g/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n6wnzbcij8wf

What?!
Are you kidding me?
When Kurgan mentioned a time travelling Ripley in another thread and that it was filmed, I thought (or hoped) he was joking.  :o

Why oh why, is there people in the franchise, whether from fox or film crews, that keep coming up with insane ideas.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Dec 29, 2018, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 29, 2018, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2018, 01:56:34 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br8g_c3lF8g/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1n6wnzbcij8wf

What?!
Are you kidding me?
When Kurgan mentioned a time travelling Ripley in another thread and that it was filmed, I thought (or hoped) he was joking.  :o

Why oh why, is there people in the franchise, whether from fox or film crews, that keep coming up with insane ideas.


I guess no one knows how to write anymore. Or, a better answer is no one knows how to tell a good story, and not blatant fanservice.

This coming from someone who writes fanfiction. There's a difference between shameless fanservice and fiction.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Dec 29, 2018, 12:46:55 PM
All bets are off what they will come up next. After that, there is no taboo left that can not be broken.

This borders on pissing people off on purpose.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 12:54:36 PM
There are imbeciles in the YouTube comments that think this would've been a good idea.

How do these people exist?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Cruentus on Dec 29, 2018, 12:54:53 PM
I am starting to wonder if the predator was written as a joke/satire to the franchise.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: gantarat on Dec 29, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
What ? What !? What !!!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 02:20:55 PM
Maybe this was intended as FOX's last F.U. to the fans... a one final giant middle finger before Disney takes over.  :P

Quote from: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
It's amazing how one single concept encapsulates everything you could possibly do wrong with AVP at once.

-Bring back Ellen Ripley.

-Introduce time-travel.

-Ignore realism.

-Retcon the timeline in favor of including a fan-favourite character.
That's dead/hasn't been born.

-(Possibly have an Ellen Ripley ancestor fighting an E.T.)

-Directly connect Alien and Predator.

I know you would prefer AvP in a alternate reality, but they are already connected in the general public's eyes. Audiences wouldn't suffer from shock and confusion if a new Alien 5 film... let's call it ALIEN: WARZONE featured a dead Predator carcass easteregg.  There wouldn't be a "OMIGOSH! THEY'RE CONNECTED?"

Quote
-Faux "Xenomorph" technology, aka;
non- "H.R Giger" tech that directly resembles the Alien itself.

-Ellen Ripley killing Predators.

-Lineage garbage.

-Predator pining for Alien-chan to notice it,
instead of standing on it's own two feet. Again.[
/i]

Come on TheOldOne. You're better than this sister! This is so silly. I know you like to look down at Predator from your Alien mountaintop from time to time, but this is 1 of 3 endings, that were created to replace a 4th original ending featuring Dutch. And this dumb Ripley ending was trashed for a Predator suit not involving Alien.  If the underlying effort of this end-scene was pining for the Alien-chan to notice it, they would have left it in, or do something different Alien related, and never would have first planned a Dutch appearance.  This is all just more dumb Shane Black...

And what do you mean again?  The easter-egg Alien skull on the ship trophy wall in "Predator 2", showing Predators are the biggest, baddest hunters in the galaxy?  Pinning to the Alien-chan was Stan Winston's motivation in the 1990 sequel to the original hit film 1987 "Predator"? Was that easter-egg in the trailers? I must have missed it.  ;)


Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 29, 2018, 12:54:53 PM
I am starting to wonder if the predator was written as a joke/satire to the franchise.

It certainly feels that way.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: Richman678 on Dec 29, 2018, 03:12:44 AM

That being said i really feel that Predator showcases the Alien waaaaay more than vice versa...
in fact i don't think the Predator has been showcased in any stand alone Alien movie at all.



It's not just me that notices it.
Alien has never directly referenced Predator, so it's currently a one-way street.

Regardless the point is,
Predator has to establish itself as being good on it's own merits for the modern era-
before even thinking about building a cinematic/crossover universe.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 03:06:56 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: Richman678 on Dec 29, 2018, 03:12:44 AM

That being said i really feel that Predator showcases the Alien waaaaay more than vice versa...
in fact i don't think the Predator has been showcased in any stand alone Alien movie at all.



It's not just me that notices it.
Alien has never directly referenced Predator, so it's currently a one-way street.

That's because it's inherently based on logic. Having a Predator in the background of an Alien movie serves no purpose, unless it's an AvP movie. But Predators, on the otherhand, are the deadliest hunters in the galaxy. They have ships. They fashion weapons and collect trophies. They adorn their bodies with them. Their nature invites the crossover.

And I believe you're not the only Alien fan that notices it, but it's a chocolate in my peanut butter, versus peanut butter on my chocolate arguement. But no one will be shocked to see chocolate and peanut butter together.  ;D

QuoteRegardless the point is,
Predator has to establish itself as being good on it's own merits for the modern era-
before even thinking about building a cinematic/crossover universe.

Yes, unfortunately Shane Black missed that boat on all fronts. Actually, he sunk the boat.  :'(
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 03:31:57 PM
Maybe its just another person named Ripley?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 03:47:52 PM
I feel like Sully.

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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 03:52:38 PM
Geez. You're all acting like a time-travelling, Predator killing, back-from-the-dead Ripley is a bad idea!!

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wrBURfbZmqqXu/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2797ec2f426c6b49badb6b)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: IZE on Dec 29, 2018, 03:54:44 PM
At this point I would have much rather preferred a time traveling Ripley over the dumb ass Irom Man we got. Even just a facehugger tube or Queen Alien chestburster would have been better.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 04:05:26 PM
So drag both franchises through the dirt and confuse general audiences;
instead of the singular standalone entity "The Predator" ?
-I believe your hatred of the Iron-Man Predator suit blinds you to the fact, that;
A time-travelling, Predator killing, before-birth-back-from-the-dead Ripley-
is infinitely INFINITELY worse.

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 04:10:41 PM
Yeah, I agree with TheOldOne. Shane was already doing his unintentional? best to take down one franchise. No need to take down both!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: proto leech on Dec 29, 2018, 04:11:50 PM
the reign of disney cant come soon enough.

Take it. Take it all.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: King geedorah on Dec 29, 2018, 04:11:50 PM
the reign of disney cant come soon enough.

Take it. Take it all.

Hear! Hear!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 04:16:42 PM
Quote from: King geedorah on Dec 29, 2018, 04:11:50 PM

Take it. Take it all.

https://youtu.be/EbfyjiwTUIE?t=18

"You think you can live with it?"
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: brokentusk420 on Dec 29, 2018, 04:42:10 PM
So stupid. The whole idea of some pod with some shoe horned in character from previous movies is stupid. Thats some straight to DVD, SciFi channel crap. But giving the scope of this entire production its not surprising they would thing something like this would be cool.


Even Dutch being in the pod is a slap in the face of the original movie. I dont understand why any of you think it would be a good idea other than bad taste. What was he gonna say when he came out of the pod looking all geriatric, " Im back!"

Some of you probably think that there is nothing wrong with that either. The sooner this waste of time is forgotten the better. 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Xiggz456 on Dec 29, 2018, 04:49:13 PM
What in thee entire f**k?!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 29, 2018, 05:10:50 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Dec 29, 2018, 08:21:29 AM
It's quite comical to see just how out of control the thinking was on this movie.  As bad as the finished product is, it's kind of amazing it's not even worse knowing what we now know.  And there's probably even zanier secrets yet to be revealed.

Yeah, it's actually f*cking hilarious! I'm still getting laughing fits ten minutes after reading this.  :laugh:

Out of control thinking is one thing but the fact that they actually built the props and filmed the whole damn thing is quite another.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 05:30:45 PM
It was filmed... and FOX allowed it.

That tells you something.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Dec 29, 2018, 05:35:25 PM
What the actual f*ck.

How is it possible that this movie and the events leading up to it keep getting worse? HOW?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Adam802 on Dec 29, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
So people rightfully acknowledge that this is stupid, but some still actually like the terrible Alien prequels....lol smh.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Dec 29, 2018, 05:45:00 PM
Quote from: Adam802 on Dec 29, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
So people rightfully acknowledge that this is stupid, but some still actually like the terrible Alien prequels....lol smh.

This is leagues apart. I see no contradiction  ;)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 29, 2018, 06:02:25 PM
I'm sure it would've been even cornier than that, just imagine the backstory.

Something like there was a Facehugger attached to her face, they couldn't remove it so they build that fancy mask to slow down its activity (just another resemblance to Iron Man). David's AI is in there as well, it connects her brain activity to the body, so she can move.

And ofc that comes with benefits like...yeah, she's linked to that alien lifeform as well, the Holy Trinity of the Alien franchise so she is extra tough like the Ripley clone in Resurrection, perfect organism = perfect Predator Killer you know?! And in the final scene an Alien bursts out of her chest through the Predator's head. Queen on earth once again, sequel incoming.

... or something even worse :D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Dec 29, 2018, 06:05:43 PM
Quote from: Adam802 on Dec 29, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
So people rightfully acknowledge that this is stupid, but some still actually like the terrible Alien prequels....lol smh.

Maybe because some people like each respective side more than the other and can tolerate more (or less) stupidity for their favorite franchise?  I personally like Predator more and am less tolerant of this type of BS then the other franchises, where I'm much more forgiving.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 29, 2018, 06:17:26 PM
So this pretty much confirms Fox is ok with time travel.

Also, it had better have been Ripley 8 or canon is ruined.  :laugh:  :P
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: irn on Dec 29, 2018, 06:22:45 PM
The production of The Predator should be a story told to children to warn them about the dangers of taking too many drugs.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 06:34:55 PM
Quote from: Adam802 on Dec 29, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
So people rightfully acknowledge that this is stupid, but some still actually like the terrible Alien prequels... lol smh.

Because... this is a billion light years worth, eons worth, infinitely worse.

For BOTH franchises.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: bobcunk on Dec 29, 2018, 06:35:37 PM
That would make more sense then Ripley,  I wouldn't have minded if a xenomorph popped out and killed everyone.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 06:46:26 PM
Anything interesting it could've contained is hampered by the present day setting.
Even more so by including anything from Alien, would f**k the Alien continuity.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TurokSwe on Dec 29, 2018, 07:10:49 PM
Still better than Ridley Scott's prequel series (though noting that I love those films). We really need more connections, references, and expansions between the franchises to actually solidify the shared universe, AND PLEASE GIVE US AVP3!!! <333
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Dec 29, 2018, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: TurokSwe on Dec 29, 2018, 07:10:49 PM
Still better than Ridley Scott's prequel series (though noting that I love those films). We really need more connections, references, and expansions between the franchises to actually solidify the shared universe, AND PLEASE GIVE US AVP3!!! <333

That is highly debatable.

I would prefer three separate universes  :P
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: El Pistolero on Dec 29, 2018, 07:40:36 PM
Wow, that reveals for me that they had no plan for this movie. This ending is as stupid as the ending we got. I wish they had just revealed Royce in that pod and everyone would have been happy with that ending.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 07:43:46 PM
Quote from: TurokSwe on Dec 29, 2018, 07:10:40 PM
.

Just, no-
to everything in this post.

I'm sure you mean well,
but the franchise' reputation might as well not exist if they pursue avenues like this.
It's corny garbage that barely belongs in a bad sentai show.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 07:54:16 PM
Quote from: El Pistolero on Dec 29, 2018, 07:40:36 PM
Wow, that reveals for me that they had no plan for this movie. This ending is as stupid as the ending we got. I wish they had just revealed Royce in that pod and everyone would have been happy with that ending.

Yes!  This would be the most logical reveal!  If Royce survived this long, he'd be killing Predators on that hunting reserve planet for years... a True Predator Killer ... substantial enough for the honorable Yautja clan to notice and realize he can help teach the human race to defend themselves.

Quote from: TurokSwe on Dec 29, 2018, 07:10:49 PM
AND PLEASE GIVE US AVP3!!! <333

I would love another AVP movie, but one done right and not a sequel or extension of the first two movies.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Rush Hour Rambo on Dec 29, 2018, 08:08:25 PM
They really didn't give a shit about this movie did they.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 29, 2018, 08:10:02 PM
I think everything that happened on screen in The Predator, and all the ideas from behind-the-scenes that didn't quite make it, have relegated the Predator franchise to new depths of creative bankruptcy. Some chief at Fox (or Disney) needs to cut the umbilical cord before it cheapens Alien anymore from clinging on to it for dear life.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Puddi on Dec 29, 2018, 08:10:48 PM
Ripley doesnt mean Ellen Ripley
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: razeak on Dec 29, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
What in the f**k?! That has to be the stupidest idea yet. It makes the stupid suit seem a million times better. Ripley isn't a superhero that can sustain fighting every creature in the universe. f**k she even died in her own series.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Puddi on Dec 29, 2018, 08:10:48 PM
Ripley doesnt mean Ellen Ripley
It is 100% implied it's her or her offspring.

If it said Dutch....
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 29, 2018, 08:30:48 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Dec 29, 2018, 08:10:02 PM
I think everything that happened on screen in The Predator,
and all the ideas from behind-the-scenes that didn't quite make it,
have relegated the Predator franchise to new depths of creative bankruptcy.
Some chief at Fox (or Disney) needs to cut the umbilical cord
before it cheapens Alien anymore from clinging on to it for dear life.

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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 08:43:35 PM
Quote from: Puddi on Dec 29, 2018, 08:10:48 PM
Ripley doesnt mean Ellen Ripley

Here's the quote from instagram: "Breanna Watkins played Ripley under the mask instead of Sigourney Weaver."

"Instead of Sigourney" can only imply Ellen.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Dec 29, 2018, 09:07:24 PM
Has there been an context given for this?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: King geedorah on Dec 29, 2018, 04:11:50 PM
the reign of disney cant come soon enough.

Take it. Take it all.

It's too early to consider that a positive thing. The day may come when dormancy would've been the best choice.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Shaeffer11 on Dec 29, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
Like Shane said: "AVP isn't dead"
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Dec 29, 2018, 09:27:59 PM
Makes me wonder what the fourth surprise ending is going to be.  I mean, what serious wtf'ckery can follow this?  :D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 09:33:22 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Dec 29, 2018, 09:27:59 PM
Makes me wonder what the fourth surprise ending is going to be.  I mean, what serious wtf'ckery can follow this?  :D

Half of me can't wait. Half of me is filled with dread of a new abomination that could be lurking around the corner.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Nukiemorph on Dec 29, 2018, 10:24:38 PM
Quote from: Adam802 on Dec 29, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
So people rightfully acknowledge that this is stupid, but some still actually like the terrible Alien prequels....lol smh.
I will never understand some peoples' standards...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:26:35 PM
Im excited to say that I just got home with my copy of The Predator and I'm about to watch it for the first time!  Lowering expectations....
Pressing play....
Letting the hunt begin!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:26:35 PM
Im excited to say that I just got home with my copy of The Predator and I'm about to watch it for the first time!  Lowering expectations....
Pressing play....
Letting the hunt begin!
It wasn't as bad on the second viewing.

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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:26:35 PM
Im excited to say that I just got home with my copy of The Predator and I'm about to watch it for the first time!  Lowering expectations....
Pressing play....
Letting the hunt begin!

My condolences.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?

Either your bluray player needs an update, or most likely,
it doesn't want to play such a terrible movie. It's like making
a kid eat vegetables. Can you blame the poor device for being
grossed out?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 10:44:47 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?

Either your bluray player needs an update, or most likely,
it doesn't want to play such a terrible movie. It's like making
a kid eat vegetables. Can you blame the poor device for being
grossed out?

If it plays "Alien Ressurection" it's not the player...  :P
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Dec 29, 2018, 10:45:49 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?

Either your bluray player needs an update, or most likely,
it doesn't want to play such a terrible movie. It's like making
a kid eat vegetables. Can you blame the poor device for being
grossed out?

I still don't want to eat broccoli.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 10:56:55 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?
Putting a Blu-ray in a DVD player will give this error.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 11:16:25 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 10:56:55 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?
Putting a Blu-ray in a DVD player will give this error.

The odds of me making that mistake are one in... vermillion.  ;D

Updated the player.  No change.   :'(

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 11:23:17 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 11:16:25 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 10:56:55 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?
Putting a Blu-ray in a DVD player will give this error.

The odds of me making that mistake are one in... vermillion.  ;D

Updated the player.  No change.   :'(

If the dvd works, just play the DVD. That's what I had to do with skull island back when I just had my PS3.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 11:16:25 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 10:56:55 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?
Putting a Blu-ray in a DVD player will give this error.

The odds of me making that mistake are one in... vermillion.  ;D

Updated the player.  No change.   :'(
Touché [emoji16]
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 11:53:38 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 29, 2018, 11:23:17 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 11:16:25 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 10:56:55 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?
Putting a Blu-ray in a DVD player will give this error.

The odds of me making that mistake are one in... vermillion.  ;D

Updated the player.  No change.   :'(

If the dvd works, just play the DVD. That's what I had to do with skull island back when I just had my PS3.

Ya, I bought the 4 -disc set with all the Predator films, so only blu rays in that set.  Dammit!  So close to seeing that film finally!

It may be time for a new player.  Anyway, I guess I'm out of this convo.  Lol!


Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 11:16:25 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Dec 29, 2018, 10:56:55 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?
Putting a Blu-ray in a DVD player will give this error.

The odds of me making that mistake are one in... vermillion.  ;D

Updated the player.  No change.   :'(
Touché [emoji16]

I jest!  ;-)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Dec 29, 2018, 11:56:55 PM
Royce reveal would have been good. I like Predators and it makes sense.

Why is anyone surprised? I'd have liked a good movie, but I expected disappointment. The more info revealed, the stronger the expectation. Now, it's all looney toons. We're seeing the all the wacky things that happened when the wrong people got their hands on the controls. It's bodes ill for future movies.

Before praying too hard to the Disney gods, look at what's happened to the properties under their control. It's not all bad news, but Disney is hardly a slam dunk for the future of Alien, Predator, or even AVP.  :(
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Dec 30, 2018, 12:09:44 AM
Jesus Christ
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 30, 2018, 12:27:39 AM
Quote from: Highland on Dec 30, 2018, 12:09:44 AM
Jesus Christ

I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 12:32:12 AM
Oh my god this thread is sooo much better than the actual movie.

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
Cannot operate disc!  What the F!!!!????


Will I never get to see this film?
Dude, don't you have neighbors? Knock on there door with promises of action and suspense. A 24 pack will help.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Dec 30, 2018, 12:34:14 AM
Quote from: Highland on Dec 30, 2018, 12:09:44 AM
Jesus Christ
'Tis the season. Lol
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 30, 2018, 02:26:04 AM
Let's not anoint Disney the saviors yet. They haven't exactly knocked it out of the park with Star Wars, and I'd argue SW is easier to get right than the Alien/Predator franchises. And I'm sure Disney won't take any risks. If I was a betting man, I'd put money on an AVP movie rated pg13 before we get anything else from Disney. Another PG13 AVP movie...yay? Who would really be excited for that? I mean, yea, if they make it good, but what are the chances of that? But seriously, I'm guessing these franchises are both dead for now as motion pictures.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Dec 30, 2018, 02:48:44 AM
QuoteThey haven't exactly knocked it out of the park with Star Wars

Very positive press and nearly $5b across 4 films.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: cloverfan98 on Dec 30, 2018, 02:49:45 AM
I just kept coming back to this whole disaster over and over in my head today. Like what the hell? I can't even begin to think of a movie "twist" that makes any less sense.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Dec 30, 2018, 03:30:35 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 30, 2018, 02:48:44 AM
QuoteThey haven't exactly knocked it out of the park with Star Wars

Very positive press and nearly $5b across 4 films.

Did you know they projected $8b?
And the toy/merchandise sales are losses.



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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 30, 2018, 03:45:49 AM
I think the Star Wars movies are only alive and kicking because they say Star Wars in the title. As for the money, if I sell 5 billion worth of crap then hooray for me. But that doesn't change the fact that it's still crap.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Seriously WTF on Dec 30, 2018, 04:04:32 AM
Yet beautiful designs,,,, what the hell was going on with this film ..,
Will be a cool Neca figure as is GI Joe Predator.
Just Wow ... though
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Dec 30, 2018, 04:10:04 AM
I think the movies themselves have been successful whether you like them or not. They've not really been managed well though as a series.

Two directors fired, two films needed re-cut, another trilogy director let go, Stand alone films put on hold.

You'd have to be mega shill to pretend it's been plane sailing.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Dec 30, 2018, 04:11:54 AM
This is how it looks to me:

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/13d2jHlSlxklVe/giphy.gif?cid=4bf119fc5c284554723039646fcc6731)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wow on Dec 30, 2018, 04:20:12 AM
This is kinda epic 📡
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 04:22:56 AM
Should the Star Wars be in panic mode? Well yea it should. It's bread and butter film popularity is at a all time low and it's all thanks to The Last Jedi.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Dec 30, 2018, 04:48:58 AM
Star Wars will be fine.

Predator though... damn, where do you even go. Hopefully we get a 5 year break and it becomes a small project for a new director.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2018, 05:03:36 AM
Disney has a plan for Predator, and Alien. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Nukiemorph on Dec 30, 2018, 05:53:54 AM
Possible plans include:

1. Absolutely nothing, but maybe letting the EU continue just for some extra pennies.

2. PG-13 safe fanboy-service movies with colonial marines that focus on action instead of horror.

3. Cheap R-rated media, like $10 million movies or streaming shows.

4. Selling the IP's off to another studio who releases more R-rated films, which seems doubtful because the merchandise is profitable.

I'll be very surprised if they do anything different from these four routes.  People expecting Disney to save these R-rated horror franchises seem delusional to me.  Hopefully Disney surprises me and I have to eat my hat.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Enjoy on Dec 30, 2018, 05:56:56 AM
This is out of nowhere.  ???
So i think disney and fox should make a new predator movie with legend studios and a hungry talented director.
Get a great writer to go back to the roots of a predator hunting people in a warzone or some ofther space alien on someother planet.
Simplify it and just get rid of all the plots dealing with dna  and a set up to another movie.
Strike a balence and make the predator less cartoonish and less horror, campy , silly . More real and brutal and bleak and hardcore R. Less glossy fancy bright light predator space age gear and more tribal frreaky look.
Back to the roots. Less fancy and more real.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Dec 30, 2018, 06:13:50 AM
The current plan suggests that Fox will still exist, just with "A Disney Corporation Company" rather than "A New Corporation Company" title at the bottom of the logo.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 06:27:23 AM
I thought the rumors were that Disney was going to shelve the fox moniker in the next 18-24 months... then again it is just a rumor.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Dec 30, 2018, 06:36:43 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 30, 2018, 03:45:49 AM
I think the Star Wars movies are only alive and kicking because they say Star Wars in the title. As for the money, if I sell 5 billion worth of crap then hooray for me. But that doesn't change the fact that it's still crap.

Nor does it change the "fact" that the Alien movies could be making billions and getting great press and some 'fans' would still whine.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 30, 2018, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 30, 2018, 06:36:43 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 30, 2018, 03:45:49 AM
I think the Star Wars movies are only alive and kicking because they say Star Wars in the title. As for the money, if I sell 5 billion worth of crap then hooray for me. But that doesn't change the fact that it's still crap.

Nor does it change the "fact" that the Alien movies could be making billions and getting great press and some 'fans' would still whine.

You might like the new SW movies, that's fine, but we just saw a SW movie flop. That's unheard of. We're used to seeing Alien/Predator movies flop. That's not novel at all. The quality and sheer idiocy of The Predator and its production was pretty novel though, I have to admit.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: CainsSon on Dec 30, 2018, 08:07:58 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 03:52:38 PM
Geez. You're all acting like a time-travelling, Predator killing, back-from-the-dead Ripley is a bad idea!!

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wrBURfbZmqqXu/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2797ec2f426c6b49badb6b)

It's kinda the karma a lot of this fan base deserves from where Im sitting. All the people who say they want a new direction with new characters and adult themes, were delivered exactly those things and hated it for not being more like what already was.

Now, Im not saying there arent some of the fan base out there who see the prequels for what they are, on their own terms, with their own flaws, but ... HOW SOON WE FORGET!

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 30, 2018, 08:08:22 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 08, 2018, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 08, 2018, 07:06:21 PM
Someone asked Fred Dekker on his FB page if this was meant for a Dutch or Ripley cameo and he replied with Yes....
Just because he said that doesn't mean Ripley was a serious option. Dutch (the extremely likely correct answer) was just among the things listed, and he confirmed it. The person asking the question could have said "Dutch, Ripley, Jerry Lewis, Spider-Man, or Taylor Swift" and the answer to the question is still "yes".
Welp, I stand corrected!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: CainsSon on Dec 30, 2018, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 30, 2018, 02:26:04 AM
Let's not anoint Disney the saviors yet. They haven't exactly knocked it out of the park with Star Wars, and I'd argue SW is easier to get right than the Alien/Predator franchises. And I'm sure Disney won't take any risks. If I was a betting man, I'd put money on an AVP movie rated pg13 before we get anything else from Disney. Another PG13 AVP movie...yay? Who would really be excited for that? I mean, yea, if they make it good, but what are the chances of that? But seriously, I'm guessing these franchises are both dead for now as motion pictures.

A PG-13 Disney produced AVP film will be miles better than every Predator film, other than the first. Remember AVP and AVP-R. The Alien series is more than halfway to greatness again, in comparison to the garbage Fox has produced from these franchises. The Alien Prequels may not be perfect but they are far better than anything past 1993.



Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 04:22:56 AM
Should the Star Wars be in panic mode? Well yea it should. It's bread and butter film popularity is at a all time low and it's all thanks to The Last Jedi.

Every single bit of Star Wars Disney has produced, has been light years above Episodes 1 - 3. Light years!

Disney may not be everything we need here, but it will be a blessing to these franchises.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 30, 2018, 08:23:22 AM
Quote from: CainsSon on Dec 30, 2018, 08:07:58 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 03:52:38 PM
Geez. You're all acting like a time-travelling, Predator killing, back-from-the-dead Ripley is a bad idea!!

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wrBURfbZmqqXu/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2797ec2f426c6b49badb6b)

It's kinda the karma a lot of this fan base deserves from where Im sitting. All the people who say they want a new direction with new characters and adult themes, were delivered exactly those things and hated it for not being more like what already was.

Now, Im not saying there arent some of the fan base out there who see the prequels for what they are, on their own terms, with their own flaws, but ... HOW SOON WE FORGET!

Weaponizing autism and iron man suits...I just don't have words. Do you think Dekker and Black were being super meta when they created the Predator killer? That's like the entire joke, right?

I agree about the prequels though. I don't really have much of a problem with that stuff because it's pretty ambiguous and open ended. I like the prequels! I'm in the minority.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: MrPeterKeyes666 on Dec 30, 2018, 09:05:12 AM
LOL can't help but laugh that I predicted this back in July-
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The Predator (2018) / Re: The Predator Will Set Up 2 Sequels
« on: Jul 19, 2018, 06:52:26 PM »
Would not be surprised if the sequels are AVP movies. With the comments from Comic Con and the added references added back in previous reshoots, plus a new 2 day reshoot next week(post credit scene?)- it's leading me to believe that's what is next."
My guess is Fox knew the film was not going to perform well but Disney would still want to do something with Alien and Predator(original IP, still generate merchandise)- so a return to Alien Vs. Predator would have made sense. My guess is they were not able to secure either Arnold or Sigourney in time to film a cameo(or reach a deal) and we got the suit ending instead. Were any of these alternate endings screened?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 30, 2018, 09:06:09 AM
They just cloned and milked her. In AvP Aliens killed Predators and Ripley killed Aliens so... Ripley > Alien > Predator...sooo when you put some stuff from her spine into your body you'll become a Predator Killer! Would be dumb enough to fit this movie :D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 30, 2018, 11:20:06 AM
Oh dear
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: irn on Dec 30, 2018, 01:25:54 PM
This is like the studio went "We want the Marvel audience! For the Predator franchise. For some reason..."
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 30, 2018, 01:39:28 PM
This is getting weirder by the minute.
Title: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Dec 30, 2018, 02:06:44 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/kcE8GrjuQ37lC/giphy.gif?cid=4bf119fc5c28d0815941686b55f7f5cb)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 30, 2018, 04:38:38 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 06:27:23 AM
I thought the rumors were that Disney was going to shelve the fox moniker in the next 18-24 months... then again it is just a rumor.

Bob Iger originally only mentioned that the Fox Searchlight and Fox 2000 divisions would be kept after the merger. People assumed from that, that 20th Century Fox would therefore be shelved. However, the latest news suggests that 20th Century Fox would be kept as a separate brand under Disney much like Marvel and Lucasfilm. Emma Watts (who worked with Ridley Scott to help realize the prequels) would effectively become Fox's version of Kathleen Kennedy.

QuoteWhile it doesn't look like 20th Century Fox's chairman/CEO Stacey Snider will be sticking around (as Alan Horn would likely take her role) post-merger there is now word from THR that Vice Chair Emma Watts will have a new role at Disney.

Watts, a seasoned production executive with strong talent relationships, is in a different position. Her exact role at Disney is still being hammered out, although her duties are almost certain to involve guiding films now in the 20th Century Fox pipeline, including the marquee Avatar and Kingsman franchises (in recent days, Kingsman 3 was dated for release on Nov. 8, 2019).

Watts has strong ties to such filmmakers and talent as James Cameron, Ryan Reynolds, Matthew Vaughn, Ridley Scott and Matt Reeves.

There are also signs that 20th Century Fox (with Watts overseeing), Fox 2000, and Fox Searchlight (Bob Iger has suggested they won't be touching it) could stay as in and just report directly to Alan Horn. Not unlike other studios like Marvel, Pixar, and Lucasfilm under the Disney umbrella

https://thegww.com/20th-century-foxs-vice-chair-emma-watts-takes-new-role-at-disney-overseeing-future-fox-releases/ (https://thegww.com/20th-century-foxs-vice-chair-emma-watts-takes-new-role-at-disney-overseeing-future-fox-releases/)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Evanus on Dec 30, 2018, 06:17:31 PM
Holy shit.

Anyway,
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 30, 2018, 04:38:38 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 06:27:23 AM
I thought the rumors were that Disney was going to shelve the fox moniker in the next 18-24 months... then again it is just a rumor.

Bob Iger originally only mentioned that the Fox Searchlight and Fox 2000 divisions would be kept after the merger. People assumed from that, that 20th Century Fox would therefore be shelved. However, the latest news suggests that 20th Century Fox would be kept as a separate brand under Disney much like Marvel and Lucasfilm. Emma Watts (who worked with Ridley Scott to help realize the prequels) would effectively become Fox's version of Kathleen Kennedy.

QuoteWhile it doesn't look like 20th Century Fox's chairman/CEO Stacey Snider will be sticking around (as Alan Horn would likely take her role) post-merger there is now word from THR that Vice Chair Emma Watts will have a new role at Disney.

Watts, a seasoned production executive with strong talent relationships, is in a different position. Her exact role at Disney is still being hammered out, although her duties are almost certain to involve guiding films now in the 20th Century Fox pipeline, including the marquee Avatar and Kingsman franchises (in recent days, Kingsman 3 was dated for release on Nov. 8, 2019).

Watts has strong ties to such filmmakers and talent as James Cameron, Ryan Reynolds, Matthew Vaughn, Ridley Scott and Matt Reeves.

There are also signs that 20th Century Fox (with Watts overseeing), Fox 2000, and Fox Searchlight (Bob Iger has suggested they won't be touching it) could stay as in and just report directly to Alan Horn. Not unlike other studios like Marvel, Pixar, and Lucasfilm under the Disney umbrella

https://thegww.com/20th-century-foxs-vice-chair-emma-watts-takes-new-role-at-disney-overseeing-future-fox-releases/ (https://thegww.com/20th-century-foxs-vice-chair-emma-watts-takes-new-role-at-disney-overseeing-future-fox-releases/)
Hopefully that means a third prequel is still possible.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2018, 06:23:53 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Dec 30, 2018, 08:07:58 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 03:52:38 PM
Geez. You're all acting like a time-travelling, Predator killing, back-from-the-dead Ripley is a bad idea!!

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wrBURfbZmqqXu/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2797ec2f426c6b49badb6b)

It's kinda the karma a lot of this fan base deserves from where Im sitting. All the people who say they want a new direction with new characters and adult themes, were delivered exactly those things and hated it for not being more like what already was.

Now, Im not saying there arent some of the fan base out there who see the prequels for what they are, on their own terms, with their own flaws, but ... HOW SOON WE FORGET!

For Predator fans, no karma deserved this. At the time we had three films to speak of, and while some fans may not be fond of "Predator 2" and/or "Predators", there has never been a mass fan outrage over them that was going around, to deserve what came around:  An 11 foot Predator, an iron man suit with dreads, tons of comedy, a friendly Pred-Dog, and a child suffering from autism equating to a true warrior.

I guess you could solely be looking at the time-travelling, Predator killing, back-from-the-dead Ripley scene and suggesting that is karma for Alien fans frustrated with the prequels, but it didn't even make it in the movie.  So I don't see any karma in play at all, if you buy into that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Shuriken on Dec 30, 2018, 06:32:40 PM
We got off easy with the Predator Killer suit compared to the rest of this shit they were thinking.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Dec 30, 2018, 07:41:18 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Dec 30, 2018, 03:45:49 AM
I think the Star Wars movies are only alive and kicking because they say Star Wars in the title. As for the money, if I sell 5 billion worth of crap then hooray for me. But that doesn't change the fact that it's still crap.

I agree. But if you're a big corporation like Disney, the money is all that matters. I think the Solo movie proved there are limits to what you can do, even when the label says Star Wars.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 30, 2018, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2018, 06:23:53 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Dec 30, 2018, 08:07:58 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2018, 03:52:38 PM
Geez. You're all acting like a time-travelling, Predator killing, back-from-the-dead Ripley is a bad idea!!

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wrBURfbZmqqXu/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2797ec2f426c6b49badb6b)

It's kinda the karma a lot of this fan base deserves from where Im sitting. All the people who say they want a new direction with new characters and adult themes, were delivered exactly those things and hated it for not being more like what already was.

Now, Im not saying there arent some of the fan base out there who see the prequels for what they are, on their own terms, with their own flaws, but ... HOW SOON WE FORGET!

For Predator fans, no karma deserved this. At the time we had three films to speak of, and while some fans may not be fond of "Predator 2" and/or "Predators", there has never been a mass fan outrage over them that was going around, to deserve what came around:  An 11 foot Predator, an iron man suit with dreads, tons of comedy, a friendly Pred-Dog, and a child suffering from autism equating to a true warrior.

I guess you could solely be looking at the time-travelling, Predator killing, back-from-the-dead Ripley scene and suggesting that is karma for Alien fans frustrated with the prequels, but it didn't even make it in the movie.  So I don't see any karma in play at all, if you buy into that sort of thing.

Not having seen yet The Predator on account of a BR disc failure, I will venture to say that the Predator helmet has always been moderately reminiscent of the Iron Man face-features, so it's not much of a stretch.  But armored dreads?  Lol.  I really shouldn't be here, reading all these spoilers.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 30, 2018, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Dec 30, 2018, 06:32:40 PM
We got off easy with the Predator Killer suit compared to the rest of this shit they were thinking.

Indeed.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 09:36:08 PM
@Perfect-Organism: if you've been able to avoid the movie up until now... maybe you should take that as a hint and just avoid it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 30, 2018, 10:05:08 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 09:36:08 PM
@Perfect-Organism: if you've been able to avoid the movie up until now... maybe you should take that as a hint and just avoid it.

Ha ha!  I am sorely tempted, if not for the FOMO which is welling up in my chest.  Partly, I want to join in in the discourse on this subject, but partly I am interested to see what will happen if I go in with literally the lowest expectations ever...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2018, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 30, 2018, 10:05:08 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 09:36:08 PM
@Perfect-Organism: if you've been able to avoid the movie up until now... maybe you should take that as a hint and just avoid it.

Ha ha!  I am sorely tempted, if not for the FOMO which is welling up in my chest.  Partly, I want to join in in the discourse on this subject, but partly I am interested to see what will happen if I go in with literally the lowest expectations ever...

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/yE3P1gj3qLMbe/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2941974166554a4de94765)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 30, 2018, 10:51:34 PM
Well, I manned up and opened up the blu-ray player.  After disassembling the main housing where the head sits, lo and behold, I found ample dust.  So I took my air-brush with compressor and turned it on.  No paint of course, just pressurized air.  But it makes no sense to just move the dust around.
So, in the other hand is the vacuum cleaner.  I blew the dust with the airbrush, which meant I didn't actually touch the head, and straight into the vacuum cleaner.  And....

It worked!

Beer in hand, lights out, expectations lowered, and here I go to watch The Predator for the first time....

Nothing makes you feel like dad-material more, than opening up your own-Blu-Ray player and making it work again   8)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: windebieste on Dec 30, 2018, 10:56:29 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 30, 2018, 10:05:08 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2018, 09:36:08 PM
@Perfect-Organism: if you've been able to avoid the movie up until now... maybe you should take that as a hint and just avoid it.

Ha ha!  I am sorely tempted, if not for the FOMO which is welling up in my chest.  Partly, I want to join in in the discourse on this subject, but partly I am interested to see what will happen if I go in with literally the lowest expectations ever...

This is how I feel about it, too.  I'm not a Predator fan by and large; but have watched each movie at least once - except for this one, which I haven't seen yet.  I have largely avoided any reviews or other commentary but the general vibe filtering across the Community is Disappointment. 

Then this piece of idiotic 'alternate ending' featuring Ripley appears online and my interest has dived even further as it concerns me that such inane creative philosophy permeates the making of the entire movie along with the whole "Fans will LOVE IT!" bullshit is a very, very risky path to take.  And in this case, falls flat on its face to give 'The Predator' an embarrassingly bloodied nose, indeed.  This does not look good.

For me, the Big Question is 'If the movie has been so poorly received, then why drive any remaining interest it may have into the ground by releasing bullshit content that was never in the movie?' Some bullshit should just stay on the cutting room floor and not be released to the public.  Ever.  This content belongs in that category.

I'll probably end up watching a pirated copy of the movie at a buddy's house mixed in with a bunch of Asylum Studios stuff on a Saturday night.  From what I gather, 'The Predator' is at that level, anyway.

-Windebieste.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 31, 2018, 12:54:12 AM
Here's the thing: The Predator is a hilarious movie and it works as a comedy. If you like Predator lore and aesthetics, this movie is going to piss you off. It's practically a parody. That's why this movie frustrates the hell out of me. It ruined the franchise, but it's still very watchable. Very odd movie. Black, Dekker, and FOX must have been high. I get what they were going for, but there is no way it was going to work as a serious event film. It's almost as funny as Deadpool in certain spots, and it's as action packed as the avg Marvel movie, but casual Marvel movie fans aren't going to be interested in aliens that tear out spines and hunt autistic children in the name of climate change. Predator and Alien fans were NOT the target audience, that's for damn sure. As bad as people diss on AVP:R, it at least was made for the fanbase. It sucked, but it was definitely for the fans.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 31, 2018, 01:33:29 AM
Ok, so I just finished watching the film for the first time.

I certainly appreciate everyone knocking this film as it made it an overall enjoyable experience.

I am coming at this as a casual Predator fan.  My thing is Aliens.  So there was really nothing that overly irritated me.  I will definitely have to do a few more watches though.  Some preliminary comments:

Where did the gang all get those Indian bikes from?

The "Iron Man" armor mainly suffered from being too silly as a design.  The basic idea was not bad.

The large Pradator did not make a lot of sense to me strictly from my background as an industrial designer.  Effectively, my issue with it is anthropometrics.  On earth, we design things for the 95 percentile man.  Based on this, most people can fit in a car.  Am I to believe that the spread of Predator people is so vast that they have to design everything to fit small and large predators?  At that scale, it would be practically impossible to accommodate such size differences.  But that's my first impression.

And now on topic, yes it would have been really jumping the shark if they sent us Lt. Ripley from the future.  However, giving us the Iron Man armor further separates this series from the AVP series IMO.  We don't see this sort of tech in the Alien films.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Dec 31, 2018, 05:36:54 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 31, 2018, 01:33:29 AM

Where did the gang all get those Indian bikes from?


A nearby garage, and a company that wanted screen-time. I can't stand advertising like that.
It just takes me right out of the movie.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 31, 2018, 05:44:20 AM
In the script the Loonies look over and see the bikes parked nearby when they ditch the bus.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoVC on Dec 31, 2018, 07:48:08 AM
I'm still in a state of hilarity and shock even 2 days after finding out this was actually filmed.

It's the Yutani shoulder cannon ending pumped up 100x and gleeful in its not caring about the logistics of anything.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wweyland on Dec 31, 2018, 09:10:20 AM
Dutch or Royce would have kind of made sense (hell, even Harrigan), but this is just very random.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Predwars24 on Dec 31, 2018, 09:12:06 AM
I actually think this would've been worse because it wouldn't have made any sense. Unless they planned on making Aliens vs Predator vs Terminator to help implement time travel. Even then it's wacky because shes got a breather that looks like a facehugger? I would love a new AVP but this is just a big no for me.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 31, 2018, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: Predwars24 on Dec 31, 2018, 09:12:06 AM
I actually think this would've been worse because it wouldn't have made any sense. Unless they planned on making Aliens vs Predator vs Terminator to help implement time travel. Even then it's wacky because shes got a breather that looks like a facehugger? I would love a new AVP but this is just a big no for me.
Haha! So that's why James Cameron returned to make Terminator 6! I bet he's pissed off that they didn't insert Ripley into the timeline.  :laugh:

Quote from:  Perfect-OrganismI will definitely have to do a few more watches though.
Actually do what the vast majority of us did... think about it for a bunch of weeks first and then not watch it again. :P
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: PsyKore on Dec 31, 2018, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 31, 2018, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from:  Perfect-OrganismI will definitely have to do a few more watches though.
Actually do what the vast majority of us did... think about it for a bunch of weeks first and then not watch it again. :P

:laugh: Yeah, usually when a new movie comes out in either Alien or Predator franchise, good or bad, I'll still buy the bluray, but for some reason I'm completely indifferent about owning this one.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 31, 2018, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 31, 2018, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 31, 2018, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from:  Perfect-OrganismI will definitely have to do a few more watches though.
Actually do what the vast majority of us did... think about it for a bunch of weeks first and then not watch it again. :P

:laugh: Yeah, usually when a new movie comes out in either Alien or Predator franchise, good or bad, I'll still buy the bluray, but for some reason I'm completely indifferent about owning this one.

I was exactly this way with "Alien Covenant" actually. I do own it on blu-ray now, but I waited months. After seeing it in the theater I was just in no hurry.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: irn on Dec 31, 2018, 12:27:12 PM
Quote from: Predwars24 on Dec 31, 2018, 09:12:06 AM
I actually think this would've been worse because it wouldn't have made any sense. Unless they planned on making Aliens vs Predator vs Terminator to help implement time travel. Even then it's wacky because shes got a breather that looks like a facehugger? I would love a new AVP but this is just a big no for me.

Don't give them ideas. I've joked before about how The Predator and to a lesser extent Prometheus took good grown up franchises down the silly Marvel comic book route, but looking at the way things are now the studio probably seriously thinks that's a good idea. Blinded by the $$$$$ that a totally different genre is making.

Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 31, 2018, 09:54:42 AM
:laugh: Yeah, usually when a new movie comes out in either Alien or Predator franchise, good or bad, I'll still buy the bluray, but for some reason I'm completely indifferent about owning this one.

Same here.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Dec 31, 2018, 12:30:46 PM
Demystifying the title creature.
One monster overtakes the
more interesting one in the plot.
The villain, one actor steals
every scene.
With stupid characters.

Am I describing "The Predator"
or the aforementioned Alien?

The difference is, all the things
the Alien prequels have going
for them in production design,
the villain winning, the classic
version of the monster firmly
established as the superior.
The excellent Prologue
Peter Weyland and David.
The virals.

The Predator has none of.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 31, 2018, 12:36:03 PM
The Predator really is just a shell of the titular character. As tiresome as it is to say, this is Independence Day: Resurgence unwanted.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Dec 31, 2018, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Dec 31, 2018, 09:10:20 AM
Dutch or Royce would have kind of made sense (hell, even Harrigan), but this is just very random.

Royce or Alice would have been perfect actually. Even if Black was saying this was set before Predator. But nothing on screen says that so it could have worked
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 31, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
The armor makes more sense than Royce, Dutch, Harrigan, and certainly more than Ripley.

Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day.  Teach a man to fish, he'll never go hungry.  With the predator tech that was gifted to humanity, humans can make more sets of armor to defend themselves.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Dec 31, 2018, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 31, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
The armor makes more sense than Royce, Dutch, Harrigan, and certainly more than Ripley.

Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day.  Teach a man to fish, he'll never go hungry.  With the predator tech that was gifted to humanity, humans can make more sets of armor to defend themselves.

I think it should have been information. About tech, their society, weaknesses, numbers, strategic assets etc. Stuff that gives you an all around edge in a potential war. Also saves on the time it takes to reverse engineer the armor to lern about tech.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Original Predator on Dec 31, 2018, 03:03:02 PM
"The moving "fingers" and "tail" were deemed too facehugger-like on the day and were cut and removed by someone"

The fact that it looked like a mechanical face hugger wasn't the problem??!??!!?  It was the moving fingers and tail!??!!?  WTF!??!?  But Ripley being attached to it isn't "too much"  ????!?!!?!?!

More confusion, more randomness-that-doesn't-make-sense.  Which actually, the irony of it all is after seeing this piece of garbage on the big screen makes perfect sense. 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 31, 2018, 03:58:52 PM
Quote from: Original Predator on Dec 31, 2018, 03:03:02 PM
"The moving "fingers" and "tail" were deemed too facehugger-like on the day and were cut and removed by someone"

The fact that it looked like a mechanical face hugger wasn't the problem??!??!!?  It was the moving fingers and tail!??!!?  WTF!??!?  But Ripley being attached to it isn't "too much"  ????!?!!?!?!

More confusion, more randomness-that-doesn't-make-sense.  Which actually, the irony of it all is after seeing this piece of garbage on the big screen makes perfect sense.

"This thing we obviously intended to look like a facehugger looks too much like a facehugger, let's not go with that." X)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Dec 31, 2018, 05:46:30 PM
The more and more alternative endings I see, the more and more mental gymnastics have to be done to justify any of them. Including the one we got. It's exhausting.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Fleshwound on Dec 31, 2018, 07:13:59 PM
Every time I think there can't be a more ridiculous story about behind the scenes craziness in this movie, here comes another doozy.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 01:38:36 AM
And to think the 3rd mystery ending has yet to arrive. I mean were assuming it's Arnie but one never knows. It could have been T-800 arnie.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 01:40:11 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 01:38:36 AM
And to think the 3rd mystery ending has yet to arrive. I mean were assuming it's Arnie but one never knows. It could have been T-800 arnie.

I assumed it would be Dutch, until the Ripley ending. Now I assume it's a T-800.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 02:33:53 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if someone considered putting David in the capsule. :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 02:48:59 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 02:33:53 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if someone considered putting David in the capsule. :laugh:

Fassbender might object.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 02:54:28 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 02:48:59 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 02:33:53 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if someone considered putting David in the capsule. :laugh:

Fassbender might object.

I mean he didn't object to Covenant, so... :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 02:59:11 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 02:54:28 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 02:48:59 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 02:33:53 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if someone considered putting David in the capsule. :laugh:

Fassbender might object.

I mean he didn't object to Covenant, so... :laugh:

I was hoping someone else would say it.  ;D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 01, 2019, 03:02:40 AM
Oml.  It gets even more outlandish.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsEMUUpFXWN/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1wlp5l8qeso5i
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:03:55 AM
NOOT!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 03:06:23 AM
What the heck is going on?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 03:07:49 AM
A time-travelling, Predator Killing NEWT?????

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 03:09:27 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 03:07:49 AM
A time-travelling, Predator Killing NEWT?????

It's the whole famn damily.

When does Hicks show up?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 03:14:46 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 03:06:23 AM
What the heck is going on?

People are pulling ideas out their butts and it's not one of those instances where it works.

What's next? Animatronic Bill Paxton to show Hudson's a Pred-killer as well? Someone playing a fake Hicks?

No, I really don't want to see an animatronic Paxton. Seriously, all animatronics are just . . . horrifying, to a degree.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:16:59 AM
The pizza guy from Requiem was probably on the shortlist now, for all we know.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 03:24:44 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:16:59 AM
The pizza guy from Requiem was probably on the shortlist now, for all we know.

Doubtful. He's dead. But if the pizza is more than 8 years late, do we get it for free?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:30:16 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 03:24:44 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:16:59 AM
The pizza guy from Requiem was probably on the shortlist now, for all we know.

Doubtful. He's dead. But if the pizza is more than 8 years late, do we get it for free?

So is Newt, and there she is in that pic.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Jan 01, 2019, 03:31:39 AM
So... I'm guessing this is the fourth outrageous ending?  Instead of a Ripley, we get a Newt.  Perfect  ::)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:34:54 AM
Brad Dourif still covered in poop from Resurrection wouldn't be any less silly than this.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 03:44:02 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:34:54 AM
Brad Dourif still covered in poop from Resurrection wouldn't be any less silly than this.

Whoa, hey, dat was poop?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:44:59 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 03:44:02 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:34:54 AM
Brad Dourif still covered in poop from Resurrection wouldn't be any less silly than this.

Whoa, hey, dat was poop?

Nah, it was whatever the hive is made out of, the lighting just made it look brown.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 01, 2019, 03:45:21 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 01, 2019, 03:02:40 AM
Oml.  It gets even more outlandish.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsEMUUpFXWN/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1wlp5l8qeso5i

(https://i.imgur.com/gTbbCJU.gif)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 03:46:14 AM
These ending ideas mostly come out at night. Mostly.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whos_Nick on Jan 01, 2019, 03:58:13 AM
have to imagine they were trying to connect this to the blomkamp idea in some way
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Predalien39 on Jan 01, 2019, 04:02:17 AM
So dumb.  If they were going this route, the alien route, the only thing that MIGHT have been cool is if an Alien popped out and just f**king killed everyone.
I still think it should have been a self destruct device, and just blown everyone up, including this movie as a whole.
God this movie sucked.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 04:09:58 AM
*Facehugger pops out*

"Does it come in 44 long?" :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 04:10:27 AM
Quote from: Whos_Nick on Jan 01, 2019, 03:58:13 AM
have to imagine they were trying to connect this to the blomkamp idea in some way

Alien 5 would've come out before this film. There would be a time travel angle near the end, leading to this movie. Like marvel, assembling a team and bringing universes together.

That was a crock, but it wouldn't surprise me.

If nothing else, all of this gives me chills about where Neil's Alien 5 was going.


Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 04:09:58 AM
*Facehugger pops out*

"Does it come in 44 long?" :laugh:

Newt is unveiled:

"That's my new girlfriend, bubba".
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: 0321recon on Jan 01, 2019, 04:13:54 AM
What was Fox thinking with this? Stop intermixing the franchises. Let them be by themselves!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 01, 2019, 04:21:13 AM
It's bizarre that it got so far as to being filmed.  Twice.

Do they spell Jorden wrong on the monitor like the Insta post?  Hard to tell, but I think it's looks correct.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: razeak on Jan 01, 2019, 04:24:14 AM
Seriously how can people f**k a concept up so badly?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 01, 2019, 04:24:18 AM
Ahahaha.
f**king trash.

Aliens The Original Series,
William Gibson's Alien 3,
The Predator, ACM, "Alien V"

How many more times
are these dead characters
going to be revived?
Fruitless.

Pathetic.
You'd think they'd
learned by now
it's a bad idea.
:laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 04:43:52 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 01, 2019, 03:02:40 AM
Oml.  It gets even more outlandish.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsEMUUpFXWN/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1wlp5l8qeso5i

Well happy m**her **cker New Year's everyone. Now dis is da shit! :laugh:

When somebody brought up David as being the 3rd ending I was thinking, well that would be insane. But Newt. Wow, just wow, the balls just to consider it. I'm almost sad that they didn't go with that. Honestly both Rips and Newt would have been better than that stupid asinine ironman suit. I mean if you are going to go full retard... then go full retard!

Oh and you know this is the shit because Hicks busted out the oml in lew of the omg.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 01, 2019, 05:05:32 AM
I beg to differ; I'd take nearly anything over
time traveling dead characters from another franchise.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: RakaiThwei on Jan 01, 2019, 05:11:40 AM
Fox gave us an AVP Multiverse and they still f**ked it up... Something I've been championing, and they still screwed it up.

At this point... a full on hard reboot where it's respectful to the first two movies is welcomed.

Come on, did we really want it to go this direction?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 05:15:45 AM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 03:14:46 AM
What's next? Animatronic Bill Paxton to show Hudson's a Pred-killer as well?

Finally, a good idea!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 05:18:17 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 01, 2019, 05:05:32 AM
I beg to differ; I'd take nearly anything over
time traveling dead characters from another franchise.

It's really unbelievable to think this is what it's come to. These once great things of ours.
Mental illness being a super power. Ironman suits. Dead characters come back to life.
Time travel. Super predators. I never could've predicted it, not in 100 years. What an
awful way for Fox to wind it up.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 05:19:43 AM
Behind-the-scenes video capturing the moment when these alternate endings were thought up:

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/EyAiUnM8fdvLq/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2af7d4393764566b914bd8)

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 05:27:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 05:19:43 AM
Behind-the-scenes video capturing the moment when these alternate endings were thought up:

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/EyAiUnM8fdvLq/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2af7d4393764566b914bd8)

They don't have the luxury of blaming it on anything but themselves.

Spoiler
Thank God this happened to Predator and not Alien.  ;)
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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 05:35:17 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 05:27:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 05:19:43 AM
Behind-the-scenes video capturing the moment when these alternate endings were thought up:

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/EyAiUnM8fdvLq/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2af7d4393764566b914bd8)

They don't have the luxury of blaming it on anything but themselves.

Spoiler
Thank God this happened to Predator and not Alien.  ;)
[close]

Spoiler
Alien already deep dived in parody shallow water with Ripley-8. Fortunately none of this crap made it in the "The Predator", so ultimately, in light of all this dreadful information, the finished product is still no better, no worse.
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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 05:40:57 AM
It's crazy to think that back when Dutch and Ripley were mentioned, that "yes" meant Ripley. So was Dutch not even considered? Even a young Dutch? I'm just frying on all of this. How would this have even worked if there were more films? Was anything written?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: newagescamartist on Jan 01, 2019, 05:42:36 AM
It really can't get much worse. I guess they could have opened the cargo and a bunch of talking cockroaches popped out and it tied into Joe's Apartment or something. Or maybe they open the cargo and reality instantly becomes toon world ala Roger Rabbit. Oh, I know! Lightsabers because why the hell not at this point? Help me out here guys, what could have been worse than this?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 05:49:15 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 01, 2019, 05:42:36 AM
It really can't get much worse.

We've said that before...a lot.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 01, 2019, 05:56:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/AqIFy9A.jpg)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 06:22:33 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 01, 2019, 05:42:36 AM
It really can't get much worse. I guess they could have opened the cargo and a bunch of talking cockroaches popped out and it tied into Joe's Apartment or something. Or maybe they open the cargo and reality instantly becomes toon world ala Roger Rabbit. Oh, I know! Lightsabers because why the hell not at this point? Help me out here guys, what could have been worse than this?
oh man Joe's apartment... that's a good one. But we can go deeper than that I think. How about Dark Helmet?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Sniff on Jan 01, 2019, 07:01:23 AM
Literally speechless
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Exactly on Jan 01, 2019, 07:04:12 AM
Exactly
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Just::::: on Jan 01, 2019, 07:11:30 AM
Still speechless
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: HNY on Jan 01, 2019, 07:23:52 AM
Just what was going behind the scenes????
Literally says Fox/Disney wanted the opportunity....
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Alternatively on Jan 01, 2019, 07:30:43 AM
.... they literally were going to do the Alien3 reboot...
Blomkamp has been scuppered by Black and Dekker.
Thanks for that guys 👌🎞
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: windebieste on Jan 01, 2019, 08:12:56 AM
You want Ripley back, Right..?

THIS is EXACTLY what you'll get. 

-Windebieste.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: JungleHunter87 on Jan 01, 2019, 10:18:35 AM
Just... Why though? WHY!?!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoVC on Jan 01, 2019, 10:46:41 AM
Not sure who made this but

(https://i.imgur.com/s3hCfsW.jpg)

.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 01, 2019, 11:18:55 AM
Not that it comes as a shock...but this confirms they are creatively bankrupt over there in Hollyweird.

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 05:19:43 AM
Behind-the-scenes video capturing the moment when these alternate endings were thought up:

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/EyAiUnM8fdvLq/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2af7d4393764566b914bd8)

You read my mind. After the movie came out, I blamed the shoddy script on Black/Decker doing copious amounts of coke.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: XenoVC on Jan 01, 2019, 10:46:41 AM
Not sure who made this but

(https://i.imgur.com/s3hCfsW.jpg)

.
oh man, I just can't stop laughing at the thought of that and how it makes just as much sense as these alternate endings. Man they should have had the Predator go forward in time and rescue Newt at that very scene and then bring her back in time. I mean literally have the movie aliens inside of The Predator. That way at least we could say there was a great movie in there.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoVC on Jan 01, 2019, 11:53:07 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: XenoVC on Jan 01, 2019, 10:46:41 AM
Not sure who made this but

(https://i.imgur.com/s3hCfsW.jpg)

.
oh man, I just can't stop laughing at the thought of that and how it makes just as much sense as these alternate endings. Man they should have had the Predator go forward in time and rescue Newt at that very scene and then bring her back in time. I mean literally have the movie aliens inside of The Predator. That way at least we could say there was a great movie in there.

The moment that the line was crossed that no mortals ever thought would be crossed (besides that AvPvT comic) in the mind of Black & Dekker, or ADI in their free time, or whoever that they were gonna bring actual characters into the A/P idea rather than just creatures, anything was on the table.

And very likely exactly that beat for beat.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: maron on Jan 01, 2019, 12:00:50 PM
Seriously....
Movie companies have become so insane in the past several years, it feels so easy to totally refuse their canon. It's so stupid you just cannot accept it anymore in several movie franchises.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 12:31:08 PM
How the hell did this get so far through that there were actors and props? Just... how?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 12:54:39 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 05:15:45 AM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 03:14:46 AM
What's next? Animatronic Bill Paxton to show Hudson's a Pred-killer as well?

Finally, a good idea!

No. I said no. I'll cry. And if I find out they were so stoned they decided to bring Drake into this, I'll cry even more.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Jan 01, 2019, 01:34:26 PM
FFS I can not think of anything worse.....Oh wait! no! I didn't mean to say that.....no no!!!!!!!!!!

I'm all for an ALIENS VS PREDATOR 3 live action movie from 20th Century Fox or whatever details of a Disney spin off overlooking IP subsidaries.

But Newt! Newt!!!!!

We don't need necromancy of fictional deceased characters from past films. Heck ALIENS and the Sulaco did a classic spin on how to have an equally quotable crew as ALIEN and the Nostromo.
We need good script writers and not retconning of confirmed killed in action characters.
Didn't work for ALIEN Resurrection- original script called ALIEN-Earthbound that planned to bring back characters with cloning as well
Didn't work for ALIENS- Colonial Marines (in terms of in-game plot)
Didn't work for Blomkamp's ALIEN 5
Jury is out whether ALIEN 3 William Gibsons comics will do an alternate universe justice

How hard is it to write relatable and quotable characters for a new AVP3?

And yes all 3 ending sucked.

I agree with whoever said a Xenomorph should've jumped and out killed everyone in the base. Set-up a cheap modern day earth AVP3 since 20th Century Fox refuses to go forward into the future if characters are being sent back in time.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 05:40:57 AM
It's crazy to think that back when Dutch and Ripley were mentioned, that "yes" meant Ripley. So was Dutch not even considered? Even a young Dutch?

Shane originally wanted Dutch to return in the end remember?  Shane met with Arnold, Arnold read the script and Arnold said no way.  Actually it sounded more like no vay but it was a no. He talked about it to the press. It was all very public. Movie fans were disappointed. I would imagine a body double of Dutch at that point would just rub people the wrong way.

Me.... I was hoping a teacher was going to come out of the pod and actually teach the audience Dutch.... but no such luck.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Pm0Resws1Zs/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jan 01, 2019, 01:39:26 PM
So glad I didn't go see this movie.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 01:48:46 PM
This should now be the bench mark which any debate involving fandom vs directors is judged.

Debate - " the directors don't seem to be in touch with the source material"

*Insert picture of Newt with robotic facehugger, from the future, in a predator pod.

Just typing that I'm Gona go ahead and confirm that this is the most ridiculous idea ever to be filmed. Can anyone think of anything worse than that?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 01:57:30 PM
I think we have threads for that.

But I think there are a few ideas worse.

1. More pods are revealed with the whole crew of the Sulaco.

2. How about we add everyone from the Nostromo?

3. Oh, look, Dutch and his whole team are here, too.

4. What the hell? Is that Harrigan and Lambert?

5. Look, Royce, too!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Rudiger on Jan 01, 2019, 02:05:16 PM
All sound like total shit. Not surprising really, as the film was a steaming pile of inane rubbish.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 01, 2019, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jan 01, 2019, 01:39:26 PM
So glad I didn't go see this movie.

Oh you have to see it. Just so you understand what a desecration of the franchise has transpired. This movie and the failed concepts prove modern moving making is dead. Fox, Black and Decker are so far removed from what the beat of the fans want, they had no clue how to proceed. This movie was a fusion confusion film. It didn't know what to be, what to say, or where to go. So it became everything, said everything, and went everywhere. For a guy who starred in the original movie, I don't think he can even understand what made the original successful. These ideas are underwear on forehead stupid.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 02:09:33 PM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 01:48:46 PM
This should now be the bench mark which any debate involving fandom vs directors is judged.

Debate - " the directors don't seem to be in touch with the source material"

*Insert picture of Newt with robotic facehugger, from the future, in a predator pod.

Shane Black left to his own devices:

A time-travelling, back from the dead, Predator killing Ripley or Newt. Friendly Predators working with humans. Friendly Predators smoking cigarettes. Pred-monkeys. Pred-Spiders. More scenes with the pet pred-dog.  And so on.

No, Fox should not have trusted Shane Black with the keys to the franchise in the first place, but I can't stress this enough: Thank you Fox Executives for stepping in here and demanding changes. You dialed back this movie mess from being a franchise killer, to a tolerable popcorn movie imo.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 01, 2019, 02:21:19 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jan 01, 2019, 01:39:26 PM
So glad I didn't go see this movie.

Same here.

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 05:40:57 AM
It's crazy to think that back when Dutch and Ripley were mentioned, that "yes" meant Ripley. So was Dutch not even considered? Even a young Dutch?

Shane originally wanted Dutch to return in the end remember?  Shane met with Arnold, Arnold read the script and Arnold said no way.  Actually it sounded more like no vay but it was a no. He talked about it to the press. It was all very public. Movie fans were disappointed. I would imagine a body double of Dutch at that point would just rub people the wrong way.

Me.... I was hoping a teacher was going to come out of the pod and actually teach the audience Dutch.... but no such luck.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Pm0Resws1Zs/maxresdefault.jpg)

They went too far with the crossover idea. Smell like something cooked at SYFY kitchen actually.   

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 02:09:33 PM
A time-travelling, back from the dead, Predator killing Ripley or Newt. Friendly Predators working with humans. Friendly Predators smoking cigarettes. Pred-monkeys. Pred-Spiders. More scenes with the pet pred-dog.  And so on.

No, Fox should not have trusted Shane Black with the keys to the franchise in the first place, but I can't stress this enough: Thank you Fox Executives for stepping in here and demanding changes. You dialed back this movie mess from being a franchise killer, to a tolerable popcorn movie imo.

It was for little though, since they filmed some of these things, which is a bad sign in any case.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 01, 2019, 02:09:06 PM
These ideas are underwear on forehead stupid.

Why am I thinking of Weird Science?

Quote from: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D

I'm open to other ideas. Gibson's script in comic form is a step in a good direction.

This is not.

This makes no sense. I have read better fanfiction than this.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 01, 2019, 03:00:37 PM
Eric Red's Alien 3 or nothing  ;D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 01, 2019, 03:09:09 PM
Vincent Ward's Alien III it's probably the only extravaganza I want to see on the big screen.

Quote from: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D

I remember people bringing up the idea of ​​the dream (Alien 3 and Res were just nightmares or something :P). Well, it's safe to say that every one here is wishing that The Predator is just a bad dream. :laugh:

Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 01, 2019, 03:00:37 PM
Eric Red's Alien 3 or nothing  ;D

Watch out! they can hear you!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Frosty Venom on Jan 01, 2019, 03:54:12 PM
These shitty endings make me somewhat glad that we got the Predator Killer suit. I still hate it though.

It is cool to see grown up Newt but how did this alternate timeline occur and how did she time travel back to 2018 Earth. Just crazy. So bad.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 03:55:01 PM
You know what?

A:CM makes more sense than this.

There! I said it!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
Quote from: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D

Whether you're for a retcon or against, to suggest Shane Black and Fred Dekker's inability to compose a logical, respectful and compelling franchise story is the only one path result of a retcon is just plain silly. You need to go no further than "Halloween" to dismiss that.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 01, 2019, 04:07:14 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 01, 2019, 03:09:09 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 01, 2019, 03:00:37 PM
Eric Red's Alien 3 or nothing  ;D
Watch out! they can hear you!  :laugh:

Damn you are right. I was just joking...just to make that clear for anyone listening :D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 01, 2019, 03:09:09 PM
I remember people bringing up the idea of ​​the dream (Alien 3 and Res were just nightmares or something :P). Well, it's safe to say that every one here is wishing that The Predator is just a bad dream. :laugh:

No it's not safe to say. We have a lot of strictly only Alien fans here on this thread piling on about a film that some haven't seen, about scenes that aren't even in the movie.

Now I don't think it's a great film at all, not at all, but nor do I think it's horrendously bad. Some of the movie is really fun (example the Fugitive), some of the characters compelling to watch (example Traeger) and some of the comedy really makes me laugh (example Casey in the hotel bedroom).  And  more power to them, there's other Predator fans (read the threads) that even think more highly of it than me.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 01, 2019, 04:26:45 PM
Oh! I didn't know that. Pardon my ignorance  :)

In fact, I do the same with some Alien movies (prequels)  ;D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 05:12:30 PM
Honestly, this reeks of a studio idea.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: acrediblesource on Jan 01, 2019, 05:13:40 PM
The only thing that would make it good was actually getting Siguarny to actually wake up and say a few lines, then....meet with Dutch who would say ...a few lines... then see a third person who will take them to the battle whom eventually would star in the film as lead. Otherwise, wasted opportunity.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 01, 2019, 05:16:08 PM


That would make it good?

No.
The whole idea is atrocious.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: ep40 on Jan 01, 2019, 05:40:55 PM
How it is possible that many good fan ideas will never be realised but such utter lunacy went that far in developmental stage? Ideas in original Predator like camouflage or plasma caster were otherwordly yet at the same time grounded. For example while it was obvious that camouflage and plasma caster required a power source not known to human science, it was depicted in reasonable way as Predator had a big battery on the back to power it and complicated control panel.
Now we have invisibility balls, nanite PK suit and time travel. Last thing doesn't fit thematically in this universe, even for Engineers that are implied to be more advanced than Predators.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 01, 2019, 05:44:50 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
Thing is the Royce in the Pod or Dutch kinda makes a tiny bit of sense ( especially Royce).

It's like they got drunk , started pitching ideas , filmed it, then woke up with a bottle of Heineken up their ass with major memory loss then it got out.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Jan 01, 2019, 06:00:19 PM
No gerbil?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 01, 2019, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
Thing is the Royce in the Pod or Dutch kinda makes a tiny bit of sense ( especially Royce).

It's like they got drunk , started pitching ideas , filmed it, then woke up with a bottle of Heineken up their ass with major memory loss then it got out.

The endings or the bottle?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Killahawke1 on Jan 01, 2019, 06:23:37 PM
You know what; I am still traumatized by what they did to Newt, Hicks, and Ripley that I would have been more than happy to see them in a "what if" universe. Just a glimpse of what those characters could have been if they hadn't been killed off for no reason.....is a risk none of us would have to wager much if it bombed. I am willing the drop my seriousness of it all and just have fun with the characters once again like back in 1986
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 01, 2019, 06:45:20 PM
I believe there is a perfect place for those crazy ideas: The nonsense thread (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=61197.0).

Quote from: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
Thing is the Royce in the Pod or Dutch kinda makes a tiny bit of sense ( especially Royce).

It's like they got drunk , started pitching ideas , filmed it, then woke up with a bottle of Heineken up their ass with major memory loss then it got out.

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas!

(https://i.imgur.com/IkncSR2.gif)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 01, 2019, 07:02:41 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 01, 2019, 06:00:19 PM
No gerbil?

That's animalphobic! You animal hater.  ::)


Needs more lisp.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Eldritch_DM on Jan 01, 2019, 08:23:39 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ni4cpi0uUkd6U/giphy.gif)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Yjvg6BHVXJVOxwrG43/giphy.gif)

My reaction to this whole thing in two gifs.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 01, 2019, 08:34:10 PM
Quote from: Killahawke1 on Jan 01, 2019, 06:23:37 PM
You know what; I am still traumatized by what they did to Newt, Hicks, and Ripley that I would have been more than happy to see them in a "what if" universe. Just a glimpse of what those characters could have been if they hadn't been killed off for no reason.....is a risk none of us would have to wager much if it bombed. I am willing the drop my seriousness of it all and just have fun with the characters once again like back in 1986

When I feel like having fun with those characters - I watch Aliens again like back in 1986.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Predwars24 on Jan 01, 2019, 08:41:59 PM
I am just speechless. Both characters from the future, both die, and both not even once encountered a predator. Why the f**k would they have been here if they're called Predator killers, why?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 08:48:31 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 01, 2019, 05:44:50 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Come on everybody. Let's give it a try. On a one, on a two and...

AAAAAAAA.....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh god now I'm crying
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Jan 01, 2019, 08:53:04 PM
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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 08:54:53 PM
Quote from: XenoVC on Jan 01, 2019, 10:46:41 AM
Not sure who made this but

(https://i.imgur.com/s3hCfsW.jpg)

.
You know what, if we were going to deal with time travel then they should have done this. As an Aliens fan first and foremost I think we should share the pain with our Predator brethren. Well f**k it's probably gonna happen if we allow this shit to continue.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 01, 2019, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 01, 2019, 05:44:50 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(https://media.giphy.com/media/cbYWhNfLWP0re/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 09:10:31 PM
Nah, this is how you do it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wweyland on Jan 01, 2019, 09:49:26 PM
Well, this just shows they had no idea what they were doing and just trying out some random stuff.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 01, 2019, 10:04:08 PM
I think they did have an idea - I'm dying to find out what that idea was though.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 10:06:42 PM
This thread


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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 01, 2019, 09:49:26 PM
Well, this just shows they had no idea what they were doing and just trying out some random stuff.

No this is worse. This means they had a sort of idea what they were doing, but just completely misunderstood everything about both series.

Like we already have AVP movies WTF lol.

It's like ...actually for once I can't even make a comparison to anything. It's on planet Z heading into a black hole.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Uncanny Antman on Jan 01, 2019, 10:21:57 PM
These endings all show how desperate they were to give it a "Marvel ending", but without understanding how those work.  They just figured that throwing a curveball at us would have everyone buzzing about the future of the franchise.   While that's true, totally wrong kind of buzz.

Maybe they should have released all the endings in the cinema at random, Clue style.  ;)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 01, 2019, 10:40:23 PM
Clearly the Predator Killer suit, although eyeroll inducing to most, was the least offensive selection.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 01, 2019, 11:16:05 PM
Quote from: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D

No it isn't.  There is a vast chasm between continuing after where Aliens left off and sending Ripley or Newt back in time.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 01, 2019, 11:20:58 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jan 01, 2019, 11:16:05 PM
Quote from: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D

No it isn't.  There is a vast chasm between continuing after where Aliens left off and sending Ripley or Newt back in time.

D I T T O.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 02, 2019, 12:00:40 AM
One awful idea for the past,
one for the future.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 12:05:04 AM
I have to hand it to the studio, they picked the less awful ending of the bunch. After all the zany ridiculousness of The Predator, if Newt or Ripley had shown up, it would've been like the shark in jaws poking its head out of the water and singing to Brody.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 12:07:26 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 12:05:04 AM
I have to hand it to the studio, they picked the less awful ending of the bunch. After all the zany ridiculousness of The Predator, if Newt or Ripley had shown up, it would've been like the shark in jaws poking its head out of the water and singing to Brody.

So, is this better than Jaws 4?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Nathsp on Jan 02, 2019, 12:07:43 AM
For me this is the confirmation that they didnt know what they were doing,.. Royce or dutch at least would have been less disgusting
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 02, 2019, 12:17:25 AM
Predator Iron-Man > Time Travelled deceased character. 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 02, 2019, 12:23:20 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 12:05:04 AM
I have to hand it to the studio, they picked the less awful ending of the bunch. After all the zany ridiculousness of The Predator, if Newt or Ripley had shown up, it would've been like the shark in jaws poking its head out of the water and singing to Brody.

I really think Fox saved the fans from an all out franchise car wreck to just a fender bender at worst, and a passable, driveable clunker at best.

Fox executives who saw the original cut before they ordered major reshoots, are reading this thread and thinking... Imagine if they saw the original version!

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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 01, 2019, 09:49:26 PM
Well, this just shows they had no idea what they were doing and just trying out some random stuff.

No this is worse. This means they had a sort of idea what they were doing, but just completely misunderstood everything about both series.

Like we already have AVP movies WTF lol.

It's like ...actually for once I can't even make a comparison to anything. It's on planet Z heading into a black hole.

I would call those pseudo AvP movies. They aren't based on any of the actual AvP content that vastly superior to anything Hollyfail has done.

I found this image. It represents where we are now. This my reaction anytime someone says The Predator (2018) is better than Predator (1987). And before anyone asks, yes...there are people who believe that.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBsNcqfF.jpg&hash=0afd58c775fa369c7290093caea8e6cf30d7c5b7)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 12:30:19 AM
I consider this whole situation a victory for the franchise. What if this movie had been successful? What if it was full speed ahead in this direction? The horror of the thought.

In an age where nonsensical plots and copious amounts of cgi have converted the movie going experience into the quest for visual cocaine, the point was made that this ain't cool with Predator. Keep the modern humor, lazy writing, the digital effects, the ridiculous easter eggs, tributes and throwbacks. Turning Predator into Call of Duty or modern Star Wars didn't go over well, and I hope the message was clearly received by the studio.

No matter how long it will be until another movie is made, I feel confident that what was allowed to happen to The Predator, will never be allowed happen to this franchise again.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 12:30:19 AM
I consider this whole situation a victory for the franchise. In an age where nonsensical plots and copious amounts of cgi have converted the movie going experience into the quest for visual cocaine, the point was made that this ain't cool with Predator. Keep the modern humor, lazy writing, the digital effects, the ridiculous easter eggs, tributes and throwbacks. Turning Predator into Call of Duty or modern Star Wars didn't go over well, and I hope the message was clearly received by the studio.

No matter how long it will be until another movie is made, I feel confident that what was allowed to happen to The Predator, will never be allowed happen to this franchise again.

So, until we get a picture of an animatronic Paxton in a pod, are you saying we can stop beating the dead horse?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 12:33:08 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 12:30:19 AM
I consider this whole situation a victory for the franchise. In an age where nonsensical plots and copious amounts of cgi have converted the movie going experience into the quest for visual cocaine, the point was made that this ain't cool with Predator. Keep the modern humor, lazy writing, the digital effects, the ridiculous easter eggs, tributes and throwbacks. Turning Predator into Call of Duty or modern Star Wars didn't go over well, and I hope the message was clearly received by the studio.

No matter how long it will be until another movie is made, I feel confident that what was allowed to happen to The Predator, will never be allowed happen to this franchise again.

Unfortunately...they tried to appeal to a younger generation. A younger generation that won't watch it anyway. No matter how much we may disagree. We all must accept it: alien and predator are "old people" franchises. They don't resonate with young people for the most part. So the studio forgot who their actual target demographic was and failed miserably with the next generation and alienated their traditional fans.

Effectively, at this point, they have successfully killed the franchise.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jan 02, 2019, 12:44:01 AM
There's a video of The Predator Comic-Con panel, and I remember Shane Black asking the audience something to the effect of "I don't think Alien vs. Predator is dead, do you?"
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 12:49:09 AM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:33:08 AM
Unfortunately...they tried to appeal to a younger generation.

I agree with this, and sometimes a bad movie is just a bad movie. The Predator (as a film) sucks, and I'd wager it would've still sucked 10, 20 and even 30 years ago.

You don't go this far off the rails with an established franchise. How disappointed would LOTR fans be if a new trilogy was announced, but it's set in modern times and features a group of drunken midgets living in a van while some mentally challenged homeless guy posing as a wizard leads them on a journey to the biggest crackhouse in east LA?

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 02, 2019, 12:44:01 AM
There's a video of The Predator Comic-Con panel, and I remember Shane Black asking the audience something to the effect of "I don't think Alien vs. Predator is dead, do you?"

To which someone should've responded, "No sir, but you sure killed the hell out of Predator".  ;D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Prez on Jan 02, 2019, 12:53:45 AM
Summed it up to my brother last night.
As a Predator film it's pretty bad.
As a Shane Black film it's great fun.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Jan 02, 2019, 01:01:29 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 12:30:19 AM
I consider this whole situation a victory for the franchise. What if this movie had been successful? What if it was full speed ahead in this direction? The horror of the thought.

In an age where nonsensical plots and copious amounts of cgi have converted the movie going experience into the quest for visual cocaine, the point was made that this ain't cool with Predator. Keep the modern humor, lazy writing, the digital effects, the ridiculous easter eggs, tributes and throwbacks. Turning Predator into Call of Duty or modern Star Wars didn't go over well, and I hope the message was clearly received by the studio.

No matter how long it will be until another movie is made, I feel confident that what was allowed to happen to The Predator, will never be allowed happen to this franchise again.

Here's to hoping  :-X  But you do have a point.  I'd consider the failure of the movie a success for the franchise, in a way.  If it was popular and they had made sequels based off of any one of these endings, what would the future of the Predator (or even Alien) have looked?  So glad we don't have to find out.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: HashTag_TheSwag on Jan 02, 2019, 01:38:18 AM
AVP is now officially canon, I can't wait to tell moma.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 01:39:18 AM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 01, 2019, 09:49:26 PM
Well, this just shows they had no idea what they were doing and just trying out some random stuff.

No this is worse. This means they had a sort of idea what they were doing, but just completely misunderstood everything about both series.

Like we already have AVP movies WTF lol.

It's like ...actually for once I can't even make a comparison to anything. It's on planet Z heading into a black hole.

I would call those pseudo AvP movies. They aren't based on any of the actual AvP content that vastly superior to anything Hollyfail has done.

I found this image. It represents where we are now. This my reaction anytime someone says The Predator (2018) is better than Predator (1987). And before anyone asks, yes...there are people who believe that.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBsNcqfF.jpg&hash=0afd58c775fa369c7290093caea8e6cf30d7c5b7)

The first AVP movie is basically the original comic. I mean it's shit, but I think that's because of the bad editing and script ( plus dodgy predators).

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 01:58:09 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 01:39:18 AM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 01, 2019, 09:49:26 PM
Well, this just shows they had no idea what they were doing and just trying out some random stuff.

No this is worse. This means they had a sort of idea what they were doing, but just completely misunderstood everything about both series.

Like we already have AVP movies WTF lol.

It's like ...actually for once I can't even make a comparison to anything. It's on planet Z heading into a black hole.

I would call those pseudo AvP movies. They aren't based on any of the actual AvP content that vastly superior to anything Hollyfail has done.

I found this image. It represents where we are now. This my reaction anytime someone says The Predator (2018) is better than Predator (1987). And before anyone asks, yes...there are people who believe that.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBsNcqfF.jpg&hash=0afd58c775fa369c7290093caea8e6cf30d7c5b7)

The first AVP movie is basically the original comic. I mean it's shit, but I think that's because of the bad editing and script ( plus dodgy predators).

The title is the same. Nothing else is.

They made it in a different time period.
Different Location.
Different human characters.
Different predators.
Different circumstances for the conflict.

The only similarity is in the title.

Hell even AvP:R cock teases the hell out of you with the colonial marine motion tracker noise in the first few minutes of the opening sequence!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 02:16:46 AM
The major difference story wise was the comic involved humans by accident.

Predators use Aliens for 'blooding' ritual which gets out of hand and teams up with petite 'minority' woman to defeat them.  Showdown with Queen where Predator dies and narrow escape from big explosion.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Hyperdyne120-a2 on Jan 02, 2019, 03:21:10 AM
 Wat
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: marrerom on Jan 02, 2019, 03:49:22 AM
That ending, along with the Ripley one, makes no sense. The only cameo that would have fit would have been Schwarzenegger.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 04:00:50 AM
Any survivor of a Predator film could've worked.

Unlike people who didn't survive Alien films (and won't be born for another century).
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: bobcunk on Jan 02, 2019, 04:07:17 AM
I think Adrian Brody would make sense to.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Eldritch_DM on Jan 02, 2019, 04:11:08 AM
Quote from: bobcunk on Jan 02, 2019, 04:07:17 AM
I think Adrian Brody would make sense to.

I would've been fine with this to be honest. Would've made a hell of a lot more sense too.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 04:26:17 AM
He probably would've made the most sense (setting aside the WY thing), since he was actually marooned in space.  Problem is most people would go 'who's Royce?'.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 04:30:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 04:26:17 AM
He probably would've made the most sense (setting aside the WY thing), since he was actually marooned in space.  Problem is most people would go 'who's Royce?'.

Indeed. I'd wager even more people within the modern audience would've also gone, "who's Ripley?" and definitely "who's Rebecca J.?"
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 04:35:06 AM
Nah, there's more awareness of the Alien connection to Predator and therefore Ripley.

Hardly any bugger is going to remember Newt's real name though.

Even putting Scheafer on the tag would've left many scratching their heads.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 04:45:20 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 04:35:06 AM
Nah, there's more awareness of the Alien connection to Predator and therefore Ripley.

Don't be so certain. Ellen Ripley hasn't been seen since 1992, and Ripley 8 since 97. If it weren't for Isolation, I have doubts any decent number of young audience members would even recognize the name. Now, if the pod would've had Stark's company brand written on it, that might be different.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:06:39 AM
Ripley is iconic though.

Of course many of the younger crowd wouldn't make the connection.  But isn't part of the problem that the younger crowd aren't interested in the first place?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 05:28:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:06:39 AM
Ripley is iconic though.

Of course many of the younger crowd wouldn't make the connection.  But isn't part of the problem that the younger crowd aren't interested in the first place?

Ripley is indeed iconic, especially given the fact that she was a female lead character in a successful and beloved franchise back when that wasn't as commonplace. Nowadays, there's nearly an oversaturation of female leads and heroines though, and I wouldn't be surprised if her extended absence has caused her to be somewhat lost in the shuffle (not that I want her back, because I don't. She died, and that's that).

As for the younger crowd not being interested, I'd say that's definitely worth a look into. Back in college, I never met many other people my age who knew anything about alien or predator. As someone who has trained and works alongside many (and I mean many) younger people on a daily basis, I've yet to meet more than one who knew anything about it, and believe me, it came up. But damned if they couldn't talk all day about the marvel movies and Game of Thrones.

I'd say the market has changed, and with it, the tastes of those who have been growing up in it. Today's market is all about the family money, and the big spectacle. That's not necessarily conducive to liking or knowing anything about Alien and Predator, or the characters in them. 80's sci-fi/horror? I don't know how big a draw there is for that now. That was back before Henry Cavill and 1080p.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:37:36 AM
I think the lacklustre box office for Covenant and the even worse bank on The Predator shows us that the audience that was there in the 80s just isn't anymore.  Horror these days needs to be cheap and in every day locations, and sci-fi horror generally isn't.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 06:03:11 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:37:36 AM
I think the lacklustre box office for Covenant and the even worse bank on The Predator shows us that the audience that was there in the 80s just isn't anymore.  Horror these days needs to be cheap and in every day locations, and sci-fi horror generally isn't.

It's quite a shame.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 06:15:35 AM
Quite.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Nukiemorph on Jan 02, 2019, 06:25:07 AM
Yup.  Halloween is being lauded as a massive success, whereas Covenant is a franchise-killing failure.  Halloween only made $13 million more than Covenant.

Halloween is only considered a success because it cost a tenth of Covenant's budget to make.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: D88M on Jan 02, 2019, 06:30:07 AM
lol wtf time travel, this movie was always doomed, how can they make something so bad?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 06:31:04 AM
I think (as of this point) the future for both of these franchises lies in the EU. Which, thank goodness, appears rather healthy.

Quote from: David's Creation on Jan 02, 2019, 06:25:07 AM
Yup.  Halloween is being lauded as a massive success, whereas Covenant is a franchise-killing failure.  Halloween only made $13 million more than Covenant.

Halloween is only considered a success because it cost a tenth of Covenant's budget to make.

Which raises the point about films like AVPR and Predators. Granted, many people dislike them, but for 40mil you're still getting films that make a profit. So I wonder if a return to such a direction will be considered by Disney?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: D88M on Jan 02, 2019, 06:31:22 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:37:36 AM
I think the lacklustre box office for Covenant and the even worse bank on The Predator shows us that the audience that was there in the 80s just isn't anymore.  Horror these days needs to be cheap and in every day locations, and sci-fi horror generally isn't.

Or maybe the studios could just do good movies?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 06:32:46 AM
Of course it's all so simple...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 06:51:26 AM
Quote from: D88M on Jan 02, 2019, 06:31:22 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:37:36 AM
I think the lacklustre box office for Covenant and the even worse bank on The Predator shows us that the audience that was there in the 80s just isn't anymore.  Horror these days needs to be cheap and in every day locations, and sci-fi horror generally isn't.

Or maybe the studios could just do good movies?

It's like the old political adage, "you don't worry about winning over the other side, they've already made up their minds. You go after the undecided votes, the people in the middle". We're fans of these franchises, to the point that we're online talking about them. But how much of an influence do we have over all of this? If none of us went to watch, exactly how much would that effect the gross revenue of these films? The studio wants everyone else's money too, not just ours (the loyal fans). Hence, The Predator.

What's considered "good" by John Q Public, might not be what the long-time fans want to see from these franchises. But if John has more people and more money than we do, brace yourself because business is business.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: morseman on Jan 02, 2019, 08:15:01 AM
Well it does go to show, it could have been worse...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 08:26:08 AM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 01:58:09 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 01:39:18 AM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 01, 2019, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 01, 2019, 09:49:26 PM
Well, this just shows they had no idea what they were doing and just trying out some random stuff.

No this is worse. This means they had a sort of idea what they were doing, but just completely misunderstood everything about both series.

Like we already have AVP movies WTF lol.

It's like ...actually for once I can't even make a comparison to anything. It's on planet Z heading into a black hole.

I would call those pseudo AvP movies. They aren't based on any of the actual AvP content that vastly superior to anything Hollyfail has done.

I found this image. It represents where we are now. This my reaction anytime someone says The Predator (2018) is better than Predator (1987). And before anyone asks, yes...there are people who believe that.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBsNcqfF.jpg&hash=0afd58c775fa369c7290093caea8e6cf30d7c5b7)

The first AVP movie is basically the original comic. I mean it's shit, but I think that's because of the bad editing and script ( plus dodgy predators).

The title is the same. Nothing else is.

They made it in a different time period.
Different Location.
Different human characters.
Different predators.
Different circumstances for the conflict.

The only similarity is in the title.

Hell even AvP:R cock teases the hell out of you with the colonial marine motion tracker noise in the first few minutes of the opening sequence!


So you don't think that if they made a movie with a bunch of predators that have a queen and use Aliens as their right of passage and something went tits up allowing a human to team up with a predator , then the predator dying in a fight with the Queen Alien, but marking the human with the predator clan symbol and the other predators letting her live.

Would even be a tiny bit similar to the original AVP movie....
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: brokentusk420 on Jan 02, 2019, 09:00:08 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 31, 2018, 01:33:29 AM
Ok, so I just finished watching the film for the first time.

I certainly appreciate everyone knocking this film as it made it an overall enjoyable experience.

I am coming at this as a casual Predator fan.  My thing is Aliens.  So there was really nothing that overly irritated me.  I will definitely have to do a few more watches though.  Some preliminary comments:

Where did the gang all get those Indian bikes from?

The "Iron Man" armor mainly suffered from being too silly as a design.  The basic idea was not bad.

The large Pradator did not make a lot of sense to me strictly from my background as an industrial designer.  Effectively, my issue with it is anthropometrics.  On earth, we design things for the 95 percentile man.  Based on this, most people can fit in a car.  Am I to believe that the spread of Predator people is so vast that they have to design everything to fit small and large predators?  At that scale, it would be practically impossible to accommodate such size differences.  But that's my first impression.

And now on topic, yes it would have been really jumping the shark if they sent us Lt. Ripley from the future.  However, giving us the Iron Man armor further separates this series from the AVP series IMO.  We don't see this sort of tech in the Alien films.

What are you talking about? The whole movie is jumping the shark. Nothing in it isn't a bad idea. 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 09:02:02 AM
Quote from: brokentusk420 on Jan 02, 2019, 09:00:08 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 31, 2018, 01:33:29 AM
Ok, so I just finished watching the film for the first time.

I certainly appreciate everyone knocking this film as it made it an overall enjoyable experience.

I am coming at this as a casual Predator fan.  My thing is Aliens.  So there was really nothing that overly irritated me.  I will definitely have to do a few more watches though.  Some preliminary comments:

Where did the gang all get those Indian bikes from?

The "Iron Man" armor mainly suffered from being too silly as a design.  The basic idea was not bad.

The large Pradator did not make a lot of sense to me strictly from my background as an industrial designer.  Effectively, my issue with it is anthropometrics.  On earth, we design things for the 95 percentile man.  Based on this, most people can fit in a car.  Am I to believe that the spread of Predator people is so vast that they have to design everything to fit small and large predators?  At that scale, it would be practically impossible to accommodate such size differences.  But that's my first impression.

And now on topic, yes it would have been really jumping the shark if they sent us Lt. Ripley from the future.  However, giving us the Iron Man armor further separates this series from the AVP series IMO.  We don't see this sort of tech in the Alien films.

What are you talking about? The whole movie is jumping the shark. Nothing in it isn't a bad idea.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/F3G8ymQkOkbII/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 09:25:44 AM
You know what, I've got it. Ripley exists in both universes and she is the chosen one predicted in the Predator hunters almanac. They murder and train to be worthy of the most dangerous bitch ever and are building her a throne made out of human skulls and spines. The human that exterminated the alien species because she wanted all to watch her do it is the only one who could be Queen Predator. They probably even have a gigantic deacon like mural with her in the center.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 09:45:06 AM
You know it's weird because this pleases no one. The oldies like us, you basically take a dump on our movie and the young folks are like - who the f is that. Wouldn't an Alien technically be a Predator killer anyway?

So the Pod opens, there's an Alien Egg inside. There's your next movie.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Uncanny Antman on Jan 02, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
Just don't do the pod ending at all.   
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 11:21:17 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 05:28:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:06:39 AM
Ripley is iconic though.

Of course many of the younger crowd wouldn't make the connection.  But isn't part of the problem that the younger crowd aren't interested in the first place?

Ripley is indeed iconic, especially given the fact that she was a female lead character in a successful and beloved franchise back when that wasn't as commonplace. Nowadays, there's nearly an oversaturation of female leads and heroines though, and I wouldn't be surprised if her extended absence has caused her to be somewhat lost in the shuffle (not that I want her back, because I don't. She died, and that's that).

As for the younger crowd not being interested, I'd say that's definitely worth a look into. Back in college, I never met many other people my age who knew anything about alien or predator. As someone who has trained and works alongside many (and I mean many) younger people on a daily basis, I've yet to meet more than one who knew anything about it, and believe me, it came up. But damned if they couldn't talk all day about the marvel movies and Game of Thrones.

I'd say the market has changed, and with it, the tastes of those who have been growing up in it. Today's market is all about the family money, and the big spectacle. That's not necessarily conducive to liking or knowing anything about Alien and Predator, or the characters in them. 80's sci-fi/horror? I don't know how big a draw there is for that now. That was back before Henry Cavill and 1080p.  :laugh:

Old. People. Movies.

Either appeal to the older crowd who know and love it or don't make it at all. If you don't make something like Michael Bay movies with more explosions than characters and have weird subplots younger audiances won't be invested.

Then you have to have representation of every background too. And it has to be PC. Othewise you offend their sensibilities. If you said "slack jawed fa$$ot" on screen today, you would haven younger audiences requiring safe spaces, a therapy dog, and claiming PTSD. Your movie would be black listed on social media and screeching on social media would occur crying out for the termination of all involved. If you stood up against these outcries you would be told "This movie isn't for you," "You dont understand it" and "it's just sci fi, don't read too much into it."

Remember- younger audiences have an attention span of roughly 1 to 3 minutes. Beyond that and you've lost them. So your movie needs to have rapid events in short periods of time like that to keep them on board. But that style of movie making doesn't work with alien nor predator. In short... Fox doesn't understand its fans. They are out of touch and trying to cash cow on the Disney formulaic marvel movies.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Jan 02, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
Just don't do the pod ending at all.
Bingo!

Should have just had McKenna look up and say something like, next time bitch and kill it there.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 02, 2019, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Jan 02, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
Just don't do the pod ending at all.
Bingo!

Should have just had McKenna look up and say something like, next time bitch and kill it there.

Exactly. Have them bury the stuff for their fallen friends, have the camera pan up to the sky with a voiceover and BAM end
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 05:28:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:06:39 AM
Ripley is iconic though.

Of course many of the younger crowd wouldn't make the connection.  But isn't part of the problem that the younger crowd aren't interested in the first place?

Ripley is indeed iconic, especially given the fact that she was a female lead character in a successful and beloved franchise back when that wasn't as commonplace. Nowadays, there's nearly an oversaturation of female leads and heroines though, and I wouldn't be surprised if her extended absence has caused her to be somewhat lost in the shuffle

Oversaturated, yes. The main difference is that Ripley is actually memorable for valid reasons. How many other female protagonists that aren't cookie cutter Mary Sues can someone name?

QuoteAs for the younger crowd not being interested, I'd say that's definitely worth a look into. Back in college, I never met many other people my age who knew anything about alien or predator. As someone who has trained and works alongside many (and I mean many) younger people on a daily basis, I've yet to meet more than one who knew anything about it, and believe me, it came up. But damned if they couldn't talk all day about the marvel movies and Game of Thrones.

I'll be honest, I don't think that's an exaggeration.

As someone who is, admittedly, much younger than most of this site, and who enjoys the crap out of this fandom, I just don't get the hype of Marvel movies, or Game of Thrones. Not at all. I can't have a conversation with anyone outside the internet about Alien.

I wouldn't assume that every young person is braindead in terms of entertainment, but I also think that the people who have poor ideas of what a good movie is make up too big a portion of this demographic.

I don't think most superhero movies should be getting such high ratings on sites like Rotten Tomatoes. Then again, I don't know if they're always trustworthy.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 12:11:10 PM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 02, 2019, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Jan 02, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
Just don't do the pod ending at all.
Bingo!

Should have just had McKenna look up and say something like, next time bitch and kill it there.

Exactly. Have them bury the stuff for their fallen friends, have the camera pan up to the sky with a voiceover and BAM end

I would argue before that. As soon as he defeats the retcon predator and before he utters "What the f**k are you?"

You know exactly what the upgrade is. Olivia Munn told you. Traeger told you. You acknowledged it was a "space alien" with the loonies. Stop rehashing dialogue for the sake of nostalgia points...and stop using them especially in wrong context. 

Nobody talks like humans in this film.  The dialogue is as much of a mess as the plot.


Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 05:28:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:06:39 AM
Ripley is iconic though.

Of course many of the younger crowd wouldn't make the connection.  But isn't part of the problem that the younger crowd aren't interested in the first place?

Ripley is indeed iconic, especially given the fact that she was a female lead character in a successful and beloved franchise back when that wasn't as commonplace. Nowadays, there's nearly an oversaturation of female leads and heroines though, and I wouldn't be surprised if her extended absence has caused her to be somewhat lost in the shuffle

Oversaturated, yes. The main difference is that Ripley is actually memorable for valid reasons. How many other female protagonists that aren't cookie cutter Mary Sues can someone name?

QuoteAs for the younger crowd not being interested, I'd say that's definitely worth a look into. Back in college, I never met many other people my age who knew anything about alien or predator. As someone who has trained and works alongside many (and I mean many) younger people on a daily basis, I've yet to meet more than one who knew anything about it, and believe me, it came up. But damned if they couldn't talk all day about the marvel movies and Game of Thrones.

I'll be honest, I don't think that's an exaggeration.

As someone who is, admittedly, much younger than most of this site, and who enjoys the crap out of this fandom, I just don't get the hype of Marvel movies, or Game of Thrones. Not at all. I can't have a conversation with anyone outside the internet about Alien.

I wouldn't assume that every young person is braindead in terms of entertainment, but I also think that the people who have poor ideas of what a good movie is make up too big a portion of this demographic.

I don't think most superhero movies should be getting such high ratings on sites like Rotten Tomatoes. Then again, I don't know if they're always trustworthy.

Paid. Shills. Kickbacks for favorable reviews.
https://youtu.be/Cf_pIliJ0xY (https://youtu.be/Cf_pIliJ0xY)


Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 05:28:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:06:39 AM
Ripley is iconic though.

Of course many of the younger crowd wouldn't make the connection.  But isn't part of the problem that the younger crowd aren't interested in the first place?

Ripley is indeed iconic, especially given the fact that she was a female lead character in a successful and beloved franchise back when that wasn't as commonplace. Nowadays, there's nearly an oversaturation of female leads and heroines though, and I wouldn't be surprised if her extended absence has caused her to be somewhat lost in the shuffle

Oversaturated, yes. The main difference is that Ripley is actually memorable for valid reasons. How many other female protagonists that aren't cookie cutter Mary Sues can someone name?

At the top of my head, movies only:
The Bride, Kill Bill
Hermione, Harry Potter series
Imperator Furiosa, Fury Road
Lisbeth Salander, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Sarah Conner, Terminator franchise
X-23, Logan
Clarice Starling, Silence of the Lambs
Kate Macer, Sicario

Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 05:28:03 AM
QuoteAs for the younger crowd not being interested, I'd say that's definitely worth a look into. Back in college, I never met many other people my age who knew anything about alien or predator. As someone who has trained and works alongside many (and I mean many) younger people on a daily basis, I've yet to meet more than one who knew anything about it, and believe me, it came up. But damned if they couldn't talk all day about the marvel movies and Game of Thrones.

I'll be honest, I don't think that's an exaggeration.

As someone who is, admittedly, much younger than most of this site, and who enjoys the crap out of this fandom, I just don't get the hype of Marvel movies, or Game of Thrones. Not at all. I can't have a conversation with anyone outside the internet about Alien.

I wouldn't assume that every young person is braindead in terms of entertainment, but I also think that the people who have poor ideas of what a good movie is make up too big a portion of this demographic.

I don't think most superhero movies should be getting such high ratings on sites like Rotten Tomatoes. Then again, I don't know if they're always trustworthy.

Most of the Marvel movies are good movies and Got is a fantastic show. Maybe the Marvel stuff are not masterpieces for the ages, but they are competently made. I don't think it's a matter of recognizing quality but more that that's the stuff they grew up with or are growing up with.

But i agree that people put too much stock into rating sites. I try to aviod them before i watch a movie to not get biased by the score.

Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:11:10 PM
Paid. Shills. Kickbacks. Focus on his points on reviews, not battlefield.
https://youtu.be/bZWSoV6zE0M (https://youtu.be/bZWSoV6zE0M)

Is that why the movies made godless amount of cash? So why are other studios not picking up on the trend if that's all that it takes?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 05:28:03 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 02, 2019, 05:06:39 AM
Ripley is iconic though.

Of course many of the younger crowd wouldn't make the connection.  But isn't part of the problem that the younger crowd aren't interested in the first place?

Ripley is indeed iconic, especially given the fact that she was a female lead character in a successful and beloved franchise back when that wasn't as commonplace. Nowadays, there's nearly an oversaturation of female leads and heroines though, and I wouldn't be surprised if her extended absence has caused her to be somewhat lost in the shuffle

Oversaturated, yes. The main difference is that Ripley is actually memorable for valid reasons. How many other female protagonists that aren't cookie cutter Mary Sues can someone name?

At the top of my head, movies only:
The Bride, Kill Bill
Hermione, Harry Potter series
Imperator Furiosa, Fury Road
Lisbeth Salander, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Sarah Conner, Terminator franchise
X-23, Logan
Clarice Starling, Silence of the Lambs
Kate Macer, Sicario

Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 02, 2019, 05:28:03 AM
QuoteAs for the younger crowd not being interested, I'd say that's definitely worth a look into. Back in college, I never met many other people my age who knew anything about alien or predator. As someone who has trained and works alongside many (and I mean many) younger people on a daily basis, I've yet to meet more than one who knew anything about it, and believe me, it came up. But damned if they couldn't talk all day about the marvel movies and Game of Thrones.

I'll be honest, I don't think that's an exaggeration.

As someone who is, admittedly, much younger than most of this site, and who enjoys the crap out of this fandom, I just don't get the hype of Marvel movies, or Game of Thrones. Not at all. I can't have a conversation with anyone outside the internet about Alien.

I wouldn't assume that every young person is braindead in terms of entertainment, but I also think that the people who have poor ideas of what a good movie is make up too big a portion of this demographic.

I don't think most superhero movies should be getting such high ratings on sites like Rotten Tomatoes. Then again, I don't know if they're always trustworthy.

Most of the Marvel movies are good movies and Got is a fantastic show. Maybe the Marvel stuff are not masterpieces for the ages, but they are competently made. I don't think it's a matter of recognizing quality but more that that's the stuff they grew up with or are growing up with.

But i agree that people put too much stock into rating sites. I try to aviod them before i watch a movie to not get biased by the score.

Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:11:10 PM
Paid. Shills. Kickbacks. Focus on his points on reviews, not battlefield.
https://youtu.be/bZWSoV6zE0M (https://youtu.be/bZWSoV6zE0M)

Is that why the movies made godless amount of cash? So why are other studios not picking up on the trend if that's all that it takes?


Depends on the studio. But the evidence is there. When a movie has a critic score in the 90% but an audience score of 40% or lower...something is wrong.

https://youtu.be/Cf_pIliJ0xY (https://youtu.be/Cf_pIliJ0xY)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 12:49:06 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:37:02 PM
Depends on the studio. But the evidence is there. When a movie has a critic score in the 90% but an audience score of 40% or lower...something is wrong.

Why that? It's not that uncommon that critics and audience disagree. If you use a rating system like RT, your example just means 90% of critics gave it a positive review vs 40% of the audience. It does not mean 90 vs  40 out of 100 attainable points.

I put not much stockin rating sites, but even than i would go with the critic score. Audience score more often than not boils down to how much 10 ratings vs how much 1 ratings there are.

But even then, a high score on rating sites does not equal Marvel cash for a movie.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 02, 2019, 12:51:56 PM
Joy, the shill conspiracy theory. ::)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 12:49:06 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:37:02 PM
Depends on the studio. But the evidence is there. When a movie has a critic score in the 90% but an audience score of 40% or lower...something is wrong.

Why that? It's not that uncommon that critics and audience disagree. If you use a rating system like RT, your example just means 90% of critics gave it a positive review vs 40% of the audience. It does not mean 90 vs  40 of 100 attainable points.

But even then, a high score on rating sites does not equal Marvel cash for a movie.

There is a clear bias for a favorable review. Favorable reviews garner more viewings. More viewings mean more money. More money means success. Success means sequels. Are we tracking?

Regarding the points...that's a flawed position because of simple size. 200 some critics versus over 10,000 reviews from movie goers.

Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 02, 2019, 12:51:56 PM
Joy, the shill conspiracy theory. ::)
Funny how open source information can show it's not a theory. Numbers don't lie. Follow the money.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jan 02, 2019, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
I wouldn't assume that every young person is braindead in terms of entertainment, but I also think that the people who have poor ideas of what a good movie is make up too big a portion of this demographic.

Real talk right here. Some sweeping generalizations about young people in this thread, and it ain't fair. Shit, I showed my 19 year-old son The Changeling (1980) a couple weeks ago, and he loved it. Tell me that movie ain't s-l-o-w...

I look at it like this: if there's nothing in the cafeteria to eat except gummie bears, then the kids are gonna eat those gummie bears. What we need to do is keep showing them and talking to them about films of quality, so they can refine their palate, get off the gummie bears, and force Hollywood to make them something of substance.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 12:49:06 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:37:02 PM
Depends on the studio. But the evidence is there. When a movie has a critic score in the 90% but an audience score of 40% or lower...something is wrong.

Why that? It's not that uncommon that critics and audience disagree. If you use a rating system like RT, your example just means 90% of critics gave it a positive review vs 40% of the audience. It does not mean 90 vs  40 of 100 attainable points.

But even then, a high score on rating sites does not equal Marvel cash for a movie.

There is a clear bias for a favorable review. Favorable reviews garner more viewings. More viewings mean more money. More money means success. Success means sequels. Are we tracking?

Regarding the points...that's a flawed position because of simple size. 200 some critics versus over 10,000 reviews from movie goers.

Sure, if the score is higher, there is a higher chance that the movie is actually good.But to claim that the only reason some movie makes money or not is the rating sites score is just bull. A lot of highly rated movies don't make any money and vice versa. You overrestimate how much people take rating scores into account when they decide if they watch a movie or not.

If all it took for box office gold was to pay of some critics, all studios would do it and critics would live like kings and The Predator would have made a shit ton of money.

Why is it flawed ? Two different scores for people to take into consideration. You trust in the critics judgment you go for the critic score, you don't, go for the audience score. 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 12:49:06 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:37:02 PM
Depends on the studio. But the evidence is there. When a movie has a critic score in the 90% but an audience score of 40% or lower...something is wrong.

Why that? It's not that uncommon that critics and audience disagree. If you use a rating system like RT, your example just means 90% of critics gave it a positive review vs 40% of the audience. It does not mean 90 vs  40 of 100 attainable points.

But even then, a high score on rating sites does not equal Marvel cash for a movie.

There is a clear bias for a favorable review. Favorable reviews garner more viewings. More viewings mean more money. More money means success. Success means sequels. Are we tracking?

Regarding the points...that's a flawed position because of simple size. 200 some critics versus over 10,000 reviews from movie goers.

Sure, if the score is higher, there is a higher chance that the movie is actually good.But to claim that the only reason some movie makes money or not is the rating sites score is just bull. A lot of highly rated movies don't make any money and vice versa. You overrestimate how much people take rating scores into account when they decide if they watch a movie or not.

If all it took for box office gold was to pay of some critics, all studios would do it and critics would live like kings and The Predator would have made a shit ton of money.

Why is it flawed ? Two different scores for people to take into consideration. You trust in the critics judgment you go for the critic score, you don't, go for the audience score.

Unless, of course, the only scores that make it into promotional material are the critic scores. Which they are. Same goes for reviewing aggregate websites. Metacritic especially.

Those are the ones that get written pieces. I'm looking at you, Kotaku

Those kind of places set the gold standard for "is it good or bad?"
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 01:10:18 PM
I wouldn't say the Predator was too PC or anything. In fact I kinda thought the hotel scene room was a bit uncomfortable in today's climate. He went a bit too far there. Black that is.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 01:13:07 PM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 01:10:18 PM
I wouldn't say the Predator was too PC or anything. In fact I kinda thought the hotel scene room was a bit uncomfortable in today's climate. He went a bit too far there. Black that is.

Don't forget Black got hardcore black listed for hiring the sex offender guy who got canned. I saw probably a dozen articles beat that to death.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 01:14:24 PM
I fail to see the difference between The Predator and Marvel aside from the R rating. If it had slightly better fart jokes and broke the 4th wall it'd have been a dead pool movie.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 01:17:16 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 01:13:07 PM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 01:10:18 PM
I wouldn't say the Predator was too PC or anything. In fact I kinda thought the hotel scene room was a bit uncomfortable in today's climate. He went a bit too far there. Black that is.

Don't forget Black got hardcore black listed for hiring the sex offender guy who got canned. I saw probably a dozen articles beat that to death.

Well that's a seperate thing, but yeah.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 02, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
(seeing the third ending)

....I just, I have no words. I need a drink.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 01:19:51 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 12:49:06 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:37:02 PM
Depends on the studio. But the evidence is there. When a movie has a critic score in the 90% but an audience score of 40% or lower...something is wrong.

Why that? It's not that uncommon that critics and audience disagree. If you use a rating system like RT, your example just means 90% of critics gave it a positive review vs 40% of the audience. It does not mean 90 vs  40 of 100 attainable points.

But even then, a high score on rating sites does not equal Marvel cash for a movie.

There is a clear bias for a favorable review. Favorable reviews garner more viewings. More viewings mean more money. More money means success. Success means sequels. Are we tracking?

Regarding the points...that's a flawed position because of simple size. 200 some critics versus over 10,000 reviews from movie goers.

Sure, if the score is higher, there is a higher chance that the movie is actually good.But to claim that the only reason some movie makes money or not is the rating sites score is just bull. A lot of highly rated movies don't make any money and vice versa. You overrestimate how much people take rating scores into account when they decide if they watch a movie or not.

If all it took for box office gold was to pay of some critics, all studios would do it and critics would live like kings and The Predator would have made a shit ton of money.

Why is it flawed ? Two different scores for people to take into consideration. You trust in the critics judgment you go for the critic score, you don't, go for the audience score.

Unless, of course, the only scores that make it into promotional material are the critic scores. Which they are. Same goes for reviewing aggregate websites. Metacritic especially.

Promotional material? Like on the movie poster or the trailer? That's natural, "critics favorit at film festival  XY" makes better promotion than audience score 90% at RT. Are you complaining that promotional material is biased? Of course it is. It's promotion. If a particular movie would sell better when swinging around the audience score, they will do so.
But if you want an audience rating, you can find one for every movie.

I don't argue that rating sites can be unreliable but to make that out as the sole reason if a movie bombs or not is not true. Venom scored poorly with the critics and made a fortune as does the Transformers series for example.

As you said follow the money. If it would only take paying of a 100 critics for millions at the box office, all studios would do it.

Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 01:13:07 PM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 02, 2019, 01:10:18 PM
I wouldn't say the Predator was too PC or anything. In fact I kinda thought the hotel scene room was a bit uncomfortable in today's climate. He went a bit too far there. Black that is.

Don't forget Black got hardcore black listed for hiring the sex offender guy who got canned. I saw probably a dozen articles beat that to death.

Putting people in the pillory gives clicks/views etc. The whole yellow press functions on that principle. That has nothing to do with PC or whatever.

Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 02, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
(seeing the third ending)

....I just, I have no words. I need a drink.

Good Lord...what the f*ck....

(https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shaking_head_breaking_bad.gif)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 02, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
The Predator, politically correct ? Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Gazz on Jan 02, 2019, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 02, 2019, 12:51:56 PM
Joy, the shill conspiracy theory. ::)
Funny how open source information can show it's not a theory. Numbers don't lie. Follow the money.

There isn't money to follow. It's the pizzagate of the movie world.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Ultramorph on Jan 02, 2019, 03:48:59 PM
Looks like Fox had plans to reboot AVP in a big way if Predator did well. Can't say I'm sorry to see this direction scrapped, but the franchise going back on ice would suck.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 02, 2019, 03:54:14 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jan 02, 2019, 03:48:59 PM
Looks like Fox had plans to reboot AVP in a big way if Predator did well. Can't say I'm sorry to see this direction scrapped, but the franchise going back on ice would suck.

I'm not so certain this was Fox's plan, but rather Shane Black's plan, and ultimately (like so much else) was reshot and reigned in.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 02, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
The Predator, politically correct ? Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Daddy Disney will change that. You wait.  8)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 02, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
The Predator, politically correct ? Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Daddy Disney will change that. You wait.  8)

If they make a great Predator movie again, where is the problem? :P
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 02, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
The Predator, politically correct ? Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Daddy Disney will change that. You wait.  8)

If they make a great Predator movie again, where is the problem? :P

LOL

https://youtu.be/WofqmWpXJZ8 (https://youtu.be/WofqmWpXJZ8)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:12:56 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 02, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
The Predator, politically correct ? Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Daddy Disney will change that. You wait.  8)

If they make a great Predator movie again, where is the problem? :P

LOL

https://youtu.be/WofqmWpXJZ8 (https://youtu.be/WofqmWpXJZ8)

Why not, the last two were nothing to write home about, let them have their shot at it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 05:15:06 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Jan 02, 2019, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 02, 2019, 12:51:56 PM
Joy, the shill conspiracy theory. ::)
Funny how open source information can show it's not a theory. Numbers don't lie. Follow the money.

There isn't money to follow. It's the pizzagate of the movie world.

Stay with me now. I know it's not movies, but it's not a far fetched example. I'm asking to put on your thinking cap for a couple minutes.

Perhaps you've heard the story: publisher Bethesda was due to give developer Obsidian a bonus if their post-apocalyptic RPG averaged an 85 on Metacritic, the review aggregation site. It got an 84 on PC and Xbox 360, and an 82 on PS3.

"If only it was a stable product and didn't ship with so many bugs, I would've given New Vegas a higher score," wrote a reviewer for the website 1up, which gave New Vegas a B, or 75 on Metacritic's scale.

"It's disappointing to see such an otherwise brilliant and polished game suffer from years-old bugs, and unfortunately our review score for the game has to reflect that," said The Escapist's review, which gave the game an 80.

If New Vegas had hit an 85, Obsidian would have gotten their bonus. And according to one person familiar with the situation who asked not to be named while speaking to Kotaku, that bonus was worth $1 million. For a team of 70 or so, that averages out to around $14,000 a person. Enough for a cheap car. Maybe a few mortgage payments.

Citation:
https://kotaku.com/metacritic-matters-how-review-scores-hurt-video-games-472462218


Baring that in mind...

In the Kotaku post the community was eager to find out if any top reviewers had been blatantly paid off for review scores. Surprisingly enough, the anonymous publisher admits that they don't directly pay for scores but they do it in a number of other ways after being asked about directly influencing review scores, saying...
Reviews only have an impact if they're 90+, and then the impact is huge.


We don't take steps to get good reviews, we take steps to make good games. Then we invite reviews to fancy promotional events to warm them up on the game before they play it on their own.

I think of our launch parties as warm-up comedians for the main act. Warm-up comedians are there to get you laughing and excited, so when the star performer walks onstage, you're primed and ready to enjoy the set. Our promo events are the same way. We bring out media to a fancy location, wine and dine them, show them the best parts of our game, and generally build anticipation for release. The theory is that, once they get the game and play it privately, they already have a positive association with the game, which may influence their final score.


Free $60 game? Check. Fancy party at a ritzy hotel suite? Check. A few hot babes/dudes to set the mood? Check. Free dinner at a lavish restaurant? Check. The excitement of seeing a review with a 90+ after all those perks? Priceless.

This has been reiterated a couple of times throughout pieces from industry vets...about how they're flown out to fancy parties or events to experience the game in a heavily influential setting, just as the anonymous publisher notes, so that media walks away from the event with a very positive outlook on the game well before it releases.

If game reviewers are bribed...is it a stretch to think movie reviewers aren't? C'mon man.

Citation: https://www.cinemablend.com/games/Publisher-Admits-Game-Review-Scores-Heavily-Influenced-By-Trips-Parties-Swag-48395.html
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 02, 2019, 05:35:59 PM
Dont forget the free gifts!


Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive. A guy named Klayton that covers Jurassic Park on Youtube was flown out overseas to see footage for the then unreleased Fallen Kingdom weeks before it opened. Guess what? He gave Fallen Kingdom a glowing review. Who would have thought? lol

I think nobody is claiming that rating sites are a reliable measurement or quality or that some critics are not bribed. What i said is, that the effect of that is far less relevant than what clanleader claims.

Bribed critics are not the difference between Marvel smashing the box office and The Predator bombing. Top rated movies bomb, poorly rated movies make cash.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive.

Thank you. This isn't flat earth or lizard people in the government. This is a very possible and very well known thing.


Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive. A guy named Klayton that covers Jurassic Park on Youtube was flown out overseas to see footage for the then unreleased Fallen Kingdom weeks before it opened. Guess what? He gave Fallen Kingdom a glowing review. Who would have thought? lol

I think nobody is claiming that rating sites are a reliable measurement or quality or that some critics are not bribed. What i said is, that the effect of that is far less relevant than what clanleader claims.

Bribed critics are not the difference between Marvel smashing the box office and The Predator bombing. Top rated movies bomb, poorly rated movies make cash.

Even The Predator 2018 had shills. Not successful ones...but they still had them.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/editorials/3538763/defending-predator-unfairly-hated-horror-movie-2018/
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Original Predator on Jan 02, 2019, 06:42:32 PM
Yet another stupid, pointless ending revealed for a stupid and pointless movie!!!, hurray!!!

The only thing this reveals is that for whatever reason, FOX didn't want to give up on the AVP universe.
But I spose the research and such is seeing the video game, comic book aspect and seeing that's the only viable option to make money at this point.  vs. a great standalone Pred movie.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive.

Thank you. This isn't flat earth or lizard people in the government. This is a very possible and very well known thing.


Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive. A guy named Klayton that covers Jurassic Park on Youtube was flown out overseas to see footage for the then unreleased Fallen Kingdom weeks before it opened. Guess what? He gave Fallen Kingdom a glowing review. Who would have thought? lol

I think nobody is claiming that rating sites are a reliable measurement or quality or that some critics are not bribed. What i said is, that the effect of that is far less relevant than what clanleader claims.

Bribed critics are not the difference between Marvel smashing the box office and The Predator bombing. Top rated movies bomb, poorly rated movies make cash.

Even The Predator 2018 had shills. Not successful ones...but they still had them.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/editorials/3538763/defending-predator-unfairly-hated-horror-movie-2018/

Sure,it's called pomotion.There is shilling for every product including movies. But what did it accomplish ? Exactly, so why make a big deal out of it?

Also, any proof that the author of that article is bribed? Or is it enough that he liked something a lot of people did not to be on the shill list?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive.

Thank you. This isn't flat earth or lizard people in the government. This is a very possible and very well known thing.


Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive. A guy named Klayton that covers Jurassic Park on Youtube was flown out overseas to see footage for the then unreleased Fallen Kingdom weeks before it opened. Guess what? He gave Fallen Kingdom a glowing review. Who would have thought? lol

I think nobody is claiming that rating sites are a reliable measurement or quality or that some critics are not bribed. What i said is, that the effect of that is far less relevant than what clanleader claims.

Bribed critics are not the difference between Marvel smashing the box office and The Predator bombing. Top rated movies bomb, poorly rated movies make cash.

Even The Predator 2018 had shills. Not successful ones...but they still had them.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/editorials/3538763/defending-predator-unfairly-hated-horror-movie-2018/

Sure,it's called pomotion.There is shilling for every product including movies. But what did it accomplish ? Exactly, so why make a big deal out of it?

Not about this movie. The countless superhero movies which have become average at best with the 8th or 10th entries into the cinematic universe. They get grades in the 80-90% range practically no matter what.

Which is why we got the iron man suit.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive.

Thank you. This isn't flat earth or lizard people in the government. This is a very possible and very well known thing.


Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive. A guy named Klayton that covers Jurassic Park on Youtube was flown out overseas to see footage for the then unreleased Fallen Kingdom weeks before it opened. Guess what? He gave Fallen Kingdom a glowing review. Who would have thought? lol

I think nobody is claiming that rating sites are a reliable measurement or quality or that some critics are not bribed. What i said is, that the effect of that is far less relevant than what clanleader claims.

Bribed critics are not the difference between Marvel smashing the box office and The Predator bombing. Top rated movies bomb, poorly rated movies make cash.

Even The Predator 2018 had shills. Not successful ones...but they still had them.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/editorials/3538763/defending-predator-unfairly-hated-horror-movie-2018/

Sure,it's called pomotion.There is shilling for every product including movies. But what did it accomplish ? Exactly, so why make a big deal out of it?

Not about this movie. The countless superhero movies which have become average at best with the 8th or 10th entries into the cinematic universe.

And you think people would go into the 11th entry of a series because some shill tells them even if they hated the 10 previous ones another shill told them to be awesome? Come on, just because you don't like the superhero movies does not change the fact that a lot of people love them. That has nothing to do with some bribed critic conspiracy.

If it would just take 200 bribed critics for box office records, critics would drown in hooker and blow. Also again, rating on movie critic sites does not equal financial sucess. We got the ironpred because Iron Man made cash, not because of the critical rating. If that was the case they would have stopped making low budget horror movies years ago :D

Any proof that the author of that  The Predator article is bribed? Or is it enough that he liked something a lot of people did not to be on the shill list?



Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AhabPredator on Jan 02, 2019, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive.

Thank you. This isn't flat earth or lizard people in the government. This is a very possible and very well known thing.


Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive. A guy named Klayton that covers Jurassic Park on Youtube was flown out overseas to see footage for the then unreleased Fallen Kingdom weeks before it opened. Guess what? He gave Fallen Kingdom a glowing review. Who would have thought? lol

I think nobody is claiming that rating sites are a reliable measurement or quality or that some critics are not bribed. What i said is, that the effect of that is far less relevant than what clanleader claims.

Bribed critics are not the difference between Marvel smashing the box office and The Predator bombing. Top rated movies bomb, poorly rated movies make cash.

Even The Predator 2018 had shills. Not successful ones...but they still had them.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/editorials/3538763/defending-predator-unfairly-hated-horror-movie-2018/

Sure,it's called pomotion.There is shilling for every product including movies. But what did it accomplish ? Exactly, so why make a big deal out of it?

Not about this movie. The countless superhero movies which have become average at best with the 8th or 10th entries into the cinematic universe.

And you think people would go into the 11th entry of a series because some shill tells them even if they hated the 10 previous ones another shill told them to be awesome? Come on, just because you don't like the superhero movies does not change the fact that a lot of people love them. That has nothing to do with some bribed critic conspiracy.

If it would just take 200 bribed critics for box office records, critics would drown in hooker and blow. Also again, rating on movie critic sites does not equal financial sucess. We got the ironpred because Iron Man made cash, not because of the critical rating. If that was the case they would have stopped making low budget horror movies years ago :D

Any proof that the author of that  The Predator article is bribed? Or is it enough that he liked something a lot of people did not to be on the shill list?

What does it matter? No matter what is provided you won't acknowledge it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive.

Thank you. This isn't flat earth or lizard people in the government. This is a very possible and very well known thing.


Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 02, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jan 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I'm with Clanleader on this one. We've known reviewers and promoters have been shilling ever since Harry Knowles was flown out to the premiere of Godzilla in '98. Why are people acting brand new? Obviously not everyone is being treated to this type of external influence, but if people think the big names in the grassroots/social media circles aren't being influenced, you're very naive. A guy named Klayton that covers Jurassic Park on Youtube was flown out overseas to see footage for the then unreleased Fallen Kingdom weeks before it opened. Guess what? He gave Fallen Kingdom a glowing review. Who would have thought? lol

I think nobody is claiming that rating sites are a reliable measurement or quality or that some critics are not bribed. What i said is, that the effect of that is far less relevant than what clanleader claims.

Bribed critics are not the difference between Marvel smashing the box office and The Predator bombing. Top rated movies bomb, poorly rated movies make cash.

Even The Predator 2018 had shills. Not successful ones...but they still had them.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/editorials/3538763/defending-predator-unfairly-hated-horror-movie-2018/

Sure,it's called pomotion.There is shilling for every product including movies. But what did it accomplish ? Exactly, so why make a big deal out of it?

Not about this movie. The countless superhero movies which have become average at best with the 8th or 10th entries into the cinematic universe.

And you think people would go into the 11th entry of a series because some shill tells them even if they hated the 10 previous ones another shill told them to be awesome? Come on, just because you don't like the superhero movies does not change the fact that a lot of people love them. That has nothing to do with some bribed critic conspiracy.

If it would just take 200 bribed critics for box office records, critics would drown in hooker and blow. Also again, rating on movie critic sites does not equal financial sucess. We got the ironpred because Iron Man made cash, not because of the critical rating. If that was the case they would have stopped making low budget horror movies years ago :D

Any proof that the author of that  The Predator article is bribed? Or is it enough that he liked something a lot of people did not to be on the shill list?

What does it matter? No matter what is provided you won't acknowledge it.

So you have some?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Eldritch_DM on Jan 02, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
Welp. This has certainly taken a turn...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/dAVLtOPb0JeIE/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Still Collating... on Jan 02, 2019, 07:50:13 PM
Who let this ending be filmed? This is hilarious in a "I'm laughing so I wouldn't cry" way.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: Badwolf-00 on Jan 02, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
Welp. This has certainly taken a turn...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/dAVLtOPb0JeIE/giphy.gif)

It's my fault, I'm sorry. Shouldn't have mentioned the rating thing in my last post.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 02, 2019, 08:20:56 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
The countless superhero movies which have become average at best with the 8th or 10th entries into the cinematic universe. They get grades in the 80-90% range practically no matter what.

Average at best? Having that opinion is fine, but you can't interject an opinion as fact, then point to the consenus disagreeing with your opinion as evidence for validating a conspiracy.

I can tell the difference between "Alien" and "Alien Resurrection".  I can tell the difference between "Predator" and "The Predator".  And I can tell the difference between "Avengers" and "Justice League".

There has been a consistent level of quality lately in the superhero genre released from Marvel that I and my family, and my friend circle see as fantastic films. "The Winter Soldier". "Civil War" "Guardians of the Galaxy" "Avengers" "Avengers: Infinity War"  "Iron Man".  That's not to say the others I didn't mention are bad, but these are fantastic entries in the genre (imo) that I would highly recommend to anyone, and are no way in my book "average at best".



Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: Badwolf-00 on Jan 02, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
Welp. This has certainly taken a turn...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/dAVLtOPb0JeIE/giphy.gif)

It's my fault, I'm sorry. Shouldn't have mentioned the rating thing in my last post.

For shame!!! Time to hunt the wabbit.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oFzmpOB6IYecRY5eo/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2d1d6f49645859361f52c8)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 02, 2019, 08:28:50 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 02, 2019, 08:20:56 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
The countless superhero movies which have become average at best with the 8th or 10th entries into the cinematic universe. They get grades in the 80-90% range practically no matter what.

Average at best? Having that opinion is fine, but you can't interject an opinion as fact, then point to the consenus disagreeing with your opinion as evidence for a validating a conspiracy.

I can tell the difference between "Alien" and "Alien Ressurection".  I can tell the difference between "Predator" and "The Predator".  And I can tell the difference between "Avengers" and "Justice League".

There has been a consistent level of quality lately in the superhero genre released from Marvel that I and my family, and my friend circle see as fantastic films. "The Winter Soldier". "Civil War" "Guardians of the Galaxy" "Avengers" "Avengers: Infinity War"  "Iron Man".  That's not to say the others I didn't mention are bad, but these are fantastic entries in the genre (imo) that I would highly recommend to anyone, and are no way in my book "average at best".


Hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 08:58:55 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 02, 2019, 08:20:56 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: Badwolf-00 on Jan 02, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
Welp. This has certainly taken a turn...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/dAVLtOPb0JeIE/giphy.gif)

It's my fault, I'm sorry. Shouldn't have mentioned the rating thing in my last post.

For shame!!! Time to hunt the wabbit.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oFzmpOB6IYecRY5eo/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2d1d6f49645859361f52c8)

You can't hunt me! I--Huggs and Verm won't let you!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 02, 2019, 08:28:50 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 02, 2019, 08:20:56 PM
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 02, 2019, 06:49:45 PM
The countless superhero movies which have become average at best with the 8th or 10th entries into the cinematic universe. They get grades in the 80-90% range practically no matter what.

Average at best? Having that opinion is fine, but you can't interject an opinion as fact, then point to the consenus disagreeing with your opinion as evidence for a validating a conspiracy.

I can tell the difference between "Alien" and "Alien Ressurection".  I can tell the difference between "Predator" and "The Predator".  And I can tell the difference between "Avengers" and "Justice League".

There has been a consistent level of quality lately in the superhero genre released from Marvel that I and my family, and my friend circle see as fantastic films. "The Winter Soldier". "Civil War" "Guardians of the Galaxy" "Avengers" "Avengers: Infinity War"  "Iron Man".  That's not to say the others I didn't mention are bad, but these are fantastic entries in the genre (imo) that I would highly recommend to anyone, and are no way in my book "average at best".


Hit the nail on the head.
Yea "consistent level of quality " as in the same old "****" every time.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 02, 2019, 02:35:29 PM
The Predator, politically correct ? Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Yea the Predator is not a PC alien at all.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 02, 2019, 10:31:24 PM
Nonsense.

Excellent MCU-

Iron-Man
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Captain America: Civil War
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Guardians Of The Galaxy Volume 2
Thor Ragnarok
Avengers: Infinity War

Mediocre/Good (required) entries:
Thor
Avenger's Assemble
Avengers: Age Of Ultron


Excellent for the majority
but personally I didn't enjoy all that much:

Black Panther (I'm on the fence.)


Mediocre/Bad entries:
The First Avenger
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Doctor Strange
Ant-Man
Ant-Man and the Wasp

Just IMO, of course.
But they are absolutely not all the same,
that's just nonsense.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 02, 2019, 10:56:29 PM
By same old shit I didn't mean bad, just that if you've seen one you've pretty much seen them all. However GotG1 is better than all but Infinity war and maybe winter solider. However Black Panther is where they jumped the shark. It made a ton of domestic cash but it is boring as hell and deserves a spot in the bad-entry position.

Also Predator fans should let this shit movie go. It is clear that they are thinking about rebooting AVP with those insane alternate endings. We should be talking about that in the AVP-forum and get social media a blaze while they're paying attention. The Silver lining... at least The Predator will not be as awful as that Disney live action Aladdin movie upcoming.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 02, 2019, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 02, 2019, 10:31:24 PM
But they are absolutely not all the same,
that's just nonsense.

I 100% Agree.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 12:03:16 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 02, 2019, 10:31:24 PM
Nonsense.

Excellent MCU-

Iron-Man
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Captain America: Civil War
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Guardians Of The Galaxy Volume 2
Thor Ragnarok
Avengers: Infinity War

Mediocre/Good (required) entries:
Thor
Avenger's Assemble
Avengers: Age Of Ultron


Excellent for the majority
but personally I didn't enjoy all that much:

Black Panther (I'm on the fence.)


Mediocre/Bad entries:
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Doctor Strange
Ant-Man
Ant-Man and the Wasp

Just IMO, of course.
But they are absolutely not all the same,
that's just nonsense.

I'd bump The Incredible Hulk up to good. I still haven't seen the antman movies, black panther, or Doctor Strange.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 03, 2019, 12:10:08 AM
The first Captain America was very good, too.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Shuriken on Jan 03, 2019, 01:21:48 AM
Quote from: Badwolf-00 on Jan 02, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
Welp. This has certainly taken a turn...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/dAVLtOPb0JeIE/giphy.gif)

Black guy = Predator fans

Destroyed apartment = The Predator

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Jan 03, 2019, 01:41:38 AM
I feel defeated. I honestly have no faith in any future Aliens, Predator, and especially AVP films anymore. Its like no one can understand how to work with these franchises anymore. I even wonder whats with the original creators not being able to do right with them anymore. Its at the level of J.K Rolling with all her stupid recent shit with Harry Potter. Its like seriously that hufflepuff circle jerk tweek I thought was a joke until f**k its canon. Next I had Ubisoft f**king up with Assassin's Creed lore's most basic tenet about genetic memory being an established choice the ancestor has done until SURPRISE you can do multiple choice endings now even though you can't change the past like that.

What's up with this shit with OG creators f**king up? Only good media we can get from Aliens, Predator, and AVP are now comics and games. Such a shame really.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 03, 2019, 01:49:44 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jan 03, 2019, 01:41:38 AM
I feel defeated. I honestly have no faith in any future Aliens, Predator, and especially AVP films anymore. Its like no one can understand how to work with these franchises anymore. I even wonder whats with the original creators not being able to do right with them anymore. Its at the level of J.K Rolling with all her stupid recent shit with Harry Potter. Its like seriously that hufflepuff circle jerk tweek I thought was a joke until f**k its canon. Next I had Ubisoft f**king up with Assassin's Creed lore's most basic tenet about genetic memory being an established choice the ancestor has done until SURPRISE you can do multiple choice endings now even though you can't change the past like that.

What's up with this shit with OG creators f**king up? Only good media we can get from Aliens, Predator, and AVP are now comics and games. Such a shame really.

Oh, God.

I don't even want to know what the Hufflepuff circle jerk tweet is.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 03, 2019, 02:07:33 AM
Maybe there's still room for another alternative ending.

(https://i.imgur.com/bAuHDTF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/s2asZya.jpg)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 02:12:34 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 03, 2019, 12:10:08 AM
The first Captain America was very good, too.

I disagree, I thought it was garbage-
I'd sooner watch any other MCU film-
even Thor TDW.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 03, 2019, 02:20:47 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 12:03:16 AM
I'd bump The Incredible Hulk up to good. I still haven't seen the antman movies, black panther, or Doctor Strange.

I position Black Panther as one of the best Marvel movies. But that's just me.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 03:21:55 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 03, 2019, 02:20:47 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 12:03:16 AM
I'd bump The Incredible Hulk up to good. I still haven't seen the antman movies, black panther, or Doctor Strange.

I position Black Panther as one of the best Marvel movies. But that's just me.

For me, the original Iron Man will probably keep the top spot.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Jan 03, 2019, 03:27:29 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 03, 2019, 02:07:33 AM
Maybe there's still room for another alternative ending.

(https://i.imgur.com/bAuHDTF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/s2asZya.jpg)

See this is an example how it looks cool but don't put it in a movie because how can you make that work? I had no qualms with the Predator Killer itself, seeing how advanced the Preds are, there would be no surprise that they would have military weaponry like that. The fact it was thrown in like that without proper execution was just terrible.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 03:39:02 AM
I always liked that suit.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 03:49:12 AM
Sometimes it feels like
I'm fighting a losing battle.

At least the Predator is
generally human shaped.
What's the logic behind
the elongated head,
or backpipes
on military hardware?

I despise creature pastiche,
it's the epitome of
"You recognise this thing!
Wouldn't it be cool if...
it was a robot?"

That Iron-Man Alien suit,
is every bit as stupid
as the Facehugger mask.

Ugh...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 03:53:46 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 03:49:12 AM

That Iron-Man Alien suit,
is every bit as stupid
as the Facehugger mask.

Ugh...

Don't fret. I liked the look of that suit, merely from a design standpoint. As a fusion of Iron Man and Alien, it's fun to look at. Some things are just cool. But on film? Never. No. Hell no.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Jan 03, 2019, 03:57:48 AM
It's a cool fan model.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 04:02:48 AM
Why can't we see something
that's actually cool for once?

Like the next step up from the
USCM in Aliens-
But this time-
Totally prepared and knowledgable
about what they're dealing with-
Think Halo ODSTs,
With competent leaders,
and have them still lose.

My brother said recently
and I have to agree;
it's really hard to care about
or respect people in these movies,
when they're so
ill prepared and idiotic.

Worst of all it diminishes
the threat of the Alien
and Predator, when they're
resigned to eliminating morons.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 04:16:33 AM
Possibly because a movie about characters that make smart decisions wouldn't be very long.



Ripley: What's going on?

Dallas: Mother's detected a distress beacon, and woke us up early. Lambert, put that on speaker. Nope, it's not human and nobody else can or should be out here.

Lambert: So what do we do now?

Dallas: Everybody back to bed.

Ash: But the contracts?

Dallas: I don't care.

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Jan 03, 2019, 04:26:37 AM
"Something is calling for help and may be the find of the century."
"But it sounds weird."
"You're right, let's sacrifice our entire pay for the last few years of work and pass up the opportunity to make history."

I dunno, that sounds pretty dumb  :P

More like Kane not sticking his face in the egg -- no hugger -- no problems.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 04:31:06 AM
They were obligated to investigate.
And there's a gaping chasm
between characters making
believable/smart decisions,
and reading the script
and making
the correct decision.

The Nostromo crew
exploring the Derelict,
in spaceworthy gear-
(Unlike other explorers...)
coming across
the one creature
that has the capability
to burn through it.

They didn't make
Unbelievably stupid decisions,
they essentially,
encountered flying pigs.
The SJ was
an indication sure
but also looked ancient.
+What SIL said.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 04:33:23 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 03, 2019, 04:26:37 AM
"Something is calling for help and may be the find of the century."
"But it sounds weird."
"You're right, let's sacrifice our entire pay for the last few years of work and pass up the opportunity to make history."

I dunno, that sounds pretty dumb  :P

More like Kane not sticking his face in the egg -- no hugger -- no problems.

Upon further investigation, it turned out to be an old transmission announcing the arrival of the new breakfast biscuit. There was nothing else to it. Scouts honor.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TC on Jan 03, 2019, 05:02:39 AM
Do we know the "Newt" instagram isn't just an in-joke photo? As in, someone in props thought, we've got this character concealed behind a mask in the background of this shot, why not stick a Rebecca Jorden label above it for yuks? (Like R2D2 sitting on top of the Close Encounters mothership, "Club Obi-Wan" in Temple of Doom, etc.)

TC
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 06:38:28 AM
That body does not match Ripley at all.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: skull-splitter on Jan 03, 2019, 06:44:22 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 03, 2019, 02:20:47 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 12:03:16 AM
I'd bump The Incredible Hulk up to good. I still haven't seen the antman movies, black panther, or Doctor Strange.

I position Black Panther as one of the best Marvel movies. But that's just me.
But it's just so... safe... well within the lines and all...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: CainsSon on Jan 03, 2019, 09:29:20 AM
Quote from: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D

But if we just retcon Alien 3, and make a proper sequel to aliens, we are guaranteed a better movie, right?


....RIGHT?    ???
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 03, 2019, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: CainsSon on Jan 03, 2019, 09:29:20 AM
Quote from: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D

But if we just retcon Alien 3, and make a proper sequel to aliens, we are guaranteed a better movie, right?


....RIGHT?    ???

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 03, 2019, 11:15:39 AM
Quote from: CainsSon on Jan 03, 2019, 09:29:20 AM
Quote from: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D

But if we just retcon Alien 3, and make a proper sequel to aliens, we are guaranteed a better movie, right?


....RIGHT?    ???

Who would say the quality of any creative product was "guaranteed"?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 03, 2019, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 03, 2019, 11:00:18 AM
Quote from: CainsSon on Jan 03, 2019, 09:29:20 AM
Quote from: irn on Jan 01, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
Are the Alien 3 retconners happy? This is the future that you wanted. :D

But if we just retcon Alien 3, and make a proper sequel to aliens, we are guaranteed a better movie, right?


....RIGHT?    ???



Beat me to it  :D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Jan 03, 2019, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 03:53:46 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 03:49:12 AM

That Iron-Man Alien suit,
is every bit as stupid
as the Facehugger mask.

Ugh...

Don't fret. I liked the look of that suit, merely from a design standpoint. As a fusion of Iron Man and Alien, it's fun to look at. Some things are just cool. But on film? Never. No. Hell no.

I think this level of ridiculous is best suited for the comics.  I didn't find the suit all that special, but even if it was, a change this big to the series is better explored in a media that's more outside of the public eye.  A feature film, for gods sakes?  ???

Quote from: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 04:02:48 AM
My brother said recently
and I have to agree;
it's really hard to care about
or respect people in these movies,
when they're so
ill prepared and idiotic.

Throws empathy pretty much out the window.  Why should the audience invest in these clowns?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Still Collating... on Jan 03, 2019, 12:20:12 PM
As mentioned here, for once I'd like to see well prepared soldiers, who know what they're up against, fight the Predators and Aliens and make rational, smart decisions. We see the Predators/Aliens adapt to the well prepared marines (mostly by cunning, but new weapons/ideas/sub-species can be introduced without going off the rails) and still get destroyed.
I'd like to see smart protagonists and villains fight by outsmarting each other and adapting to the circumstances. Enough with the dumb humans, predators and aliens. 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 03, 2019, 01:02:15 PM
HAHA on snap! You know who should have came out of that pod, Morse from Alien3 and he should have immediately said f**k! Roll credits!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 03, 2019, 01:05:52 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 03, 2019, 01:02:15 PM
HAHA on snap! You know who should have came out of that pod, Morse from Alien3 and he should have immediately said f**k! Roll credits!

I second this decision.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 03, 2019, 01:08:12 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 03, 2019, 01:05:52 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 03, 2019, 01:02:15 PM
HAHA on snap! You know who should have came out of that pod, Morse from Alien3 and he should have immediately said f**k! Roll credits!

I second this decision.

"Where's the f*****g Ice Cream?"

Roll Credits
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Frosty Venom on Jan 03, 2019, 01:08:31 PM
A very Morse reaction to the shit show that is this time travel concept.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 02:42:45 PM
1. From a profile angle, you just see two big clown shoes sticking out.

2. Mac From "The Thing"

3. Dillon encased in lead. Solo style.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 03, 2019, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 06:38:28 AM
That body does not match Ripley at all.

Ripley: I was maybe always a little...too...skinny for everyone, huh?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Highland on Jan 03, 2019, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 03, 2019, 02:42:45 PM
1. From a profile angle, you just see two big clown shoes sticking out.

2. Mac From "The Thing"

3. Dillon encased in lead. Solo style.

But is Mac the thing?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Jan 03, 2019, 04:59:07 PM
I see silliness reigns supreme now, and justifiably so.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: guttii on Jan 03, 2019, 08:31:20 PM

that movie is already bad and this does not save
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 03, 2019, 09:11:47 PM
Well you guys just gave me another idea, it should have been loaded with other bad asses. Like Rambo, McClain, Jason Statham and Riddick... oh no no... that would just make it expendables 4. Yea forget that.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 03, 2019, 09:14:39 PM
@Huggs

Another pod opens. Charlie Brown sits up and says, "Good grief." Roll credits.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: JokersWarPig on Jan 03, 2019, 10:17:36 PM
Devils advocate here.
So I guess, MAYBE if we stretched things REALLY thin, you could go with Ripley (typing that made me feel ill)...but why on earth would you add Newt? Adult or not she doesn't make ANY sense at all.

If you told me Ripley and Hicks came out of two pods I'd still tell you it was stupid, but it'd make more sense than a (suddenly) adult version of Newt.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 03, 2019, 10:41:31 PM
How does Ripley make any more sense than Newt?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: JokersWarPig on Jan 03, 2019, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: SM on Jan 03, 2019, 10:41:31 PM
How does Ripley make any more sense than Newt?

I'm going off on screen xeno kills. None of it makes any sense or a logical choice at all.
Hell, Royce would have made the most sense.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SiL on Jan 03, 2019, 10:45:45 PM
That's ... the least of the issues.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 10:47:34 PM
I guess because the logic is;
Ellen Ripley > Alien > Predator

Therefore that makes Ripley
a potential "Predator Killer"
But Newt never killed anything.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 03, 2019, 10:50:58 PM
She didn't do Casey no favours.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 10:53:12 PM
 :laugh: True.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Jan 03, 2019, 11:34:13 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 03, 2019, 04:02:48 AM
Why can't we see something
that's actually cool for once?

Like the next step up from the
USCM in Aliens-
But this time-
Totally prepared and knowledgeable
about what they're dealing with-
Think Halo ODSTs,
With competent leaders,
and have them still lose
.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/SWd9mTHEMIxQ4/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Jan 03, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Let the f***** Predators win for once. For once.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 03, 2019, 11:50:55 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Jan 03, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Let the f***** Predators win for once. For once.

Having your protagonist die?  Hmm..  interesting. It could work.

Unless you would like the Yautja as the protagonist?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SM on Jan 03, 2019, 11:54:32 PM
These dudes have skulls all over their pool room walls.

They win a lot.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: skull-splitter on Jan 04, 2019, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Jan 03, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Let the f***** Predators win for once. For once.
The only way I see this work is the protagonist not ending up as the primary prey for the Predator...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Jan 04, 2019, 12:47:15 AM
Man is supreme Predator. 

Kneel before Zod.

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 04, 2019, 01:28:51 AM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jan 04, 2019, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Jan 03, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Let the f***** Predators win for once. For once.
The only way I see this work is the protagonist not ending up as the primary prey for the Predator...

I don't know, I can see a human protagonist die in a glorious Spartan "victory" way, in maybe some sort of self sacrifice.  Not that the protagonist is trying to lose, he's not, but he fights so hard they develop a mutual respect. And once he dies, he will always be remembered with honor by the Yautja that defeated him, and the humans the protagonist was trying to protect.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Frosty Venom on Jan 04, 2019, 01:49:39 AM
This is an adult Newt. Who didn't experience the events of Alien 3. Maybe in this timeline Newt grew up to be the ultimate alien and predator killer in the whole galaxy? And then she was captured by time travelling Predators/Weyland Yutani??  ??? Wtf were they thinking? This would not even be accepted by the fanbase in comic-book form.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Never say no to Panda! on Jan 04, 2019, 09:31:21 AM
Yeah, and WY of the future realized that she is better than the good old "perfect organism", so they caught her and send her back in time just before they were bought out by Walmart. I'm sure there is a Post-it on her pod that says "Clone the sh*t out of her!"
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 04, 2019, 10:12:31 AM
Here's a question I have about the opening space jump... was that just a jump through space, point A to point B kind of deal or did the ship also jump through time? I mean in trying to figure out the reasoning behind the Ripley and Newt alternative endings... they could have intended for the Predator to be a dimensional race. Which would have been an upgrade. :)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: PsyKore on Jan 04, 2019, 10:22:09 AM
That's a possibility. That sort of thing really takes away from the grounded realism of Alien though and I would hate to ever see it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Frosty Venom on Jan 04, 2019, 10:37:39 AM
That's the only explanation that could kinda make this work. But it still sucks.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 04, 2019, 11:08:40 AM
Yes but has anyone working on the production said exactly what was meant by the scene. I don't remember hearing anything about it one way or the other.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 04, 2019, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 04, 2019, 01:28:51 AM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jan 04, 2019, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Jan 03, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Let the f***** Predators win for once. For once.
The only way I see this work is the protagonist not ending up as the primary prey for the Predator...

I don't know, I can see a human protagonist die in a glorious Spartan "victory" way, in maybe some sort of self sacrifice.  Not that the protagonist is trying to lose, he's not, but he fights so hard they develop a mutual respect. And once he dies, he will always be remembered with honor by the Yautja that defeated him, and the humans the protagonist was trying to protect.

I like that. It reminds me of something that happens off panel in Tarzan vs Predator, where the Predators attack the tribe Tarzan is with and most are slaughtered, but the Son of the chief is found dead, but laid out with his spear by his side. The Predators having left him intact as a sign of respect for a great warrior
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: lsqBender on Jan 04, 2019, 04:11:33 PM
It still bugs me more than anything when 'they' make these cliffhanger endings like direct sequels are a certainty in these franchises.
If you're not in the middle of making the next Marvel/DC/StarWars, you shouldn't over estimate your chances of setting up more films that need to explain or conclude your story.
I haven't seen The Predator yet, but from I could gather from comments I've read, non of the alternate endings makes sense. Especially if you are not considering having Ripley and Newt from an alternate timeline come back to the 21st century to fight Predators and Aliens.
Just leave Ripley and the Yautjas on earth stories be. Ripley is dead and Predators on earth are boring by now.
I want to see an adaptation of the first Aliens versus Predator storyline from Dark Horse.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Jan 04, 2019, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Jan 04, 2019, 01:49:39 AM
This is an adult Newt. Who didn't experience the events of Alien 3. Maybe in this timeline Newt grew up to be the ultimate alien and predator killer in the whole galaxy? And then she was captured by time travelling Predators/Weyland Yutani??  ??? Wtf were they thinking? This would not even be accepted by the fanbase in comic-book form.
Funny that I had a thought of an alternate timeline where Newt survived and an Alien Isolation like encounter, she unfortunately crosses paths with not only the Aliens again but Predator too.

Man Alien 3's production seemed like an omen to all the shit that soon came after. What a curse.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 04, 2019, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 04, 2019, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 04, 2019, 01:28:51 AM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jan 04, 2019, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Jan 03, 2019, 11:42:29 PM
Let the f***** Predators win for once. For once.
The only way I see this work is the protagonist not ending up as the primary prey for the Predator...

I don't know, I can see a human protagonist die in a glorious Spartan "victory" way, in maybe some sort of self sacrifice.  Not that the protagonist is trying to lose, he's not, but he fights so hard they develop a mutual respect. And once he dies, he will always be remembered with honor by the Yautja that defeated him, and the humans the protagonist was trying to protect.

I like that. It reminds me of something that happens off panel in Tarzan vs Predator, where the Predators attack the tribe Tarzan is with and most are slaughtered, but the Son of the chief is found dead, but laid out with his spear by his side. The Predators having left him intact as a sign of respect for a great warrior

Thanks. It would be a great scene that after an exhausting fight, one for the ages, the Predator beaten and bloody finally deals the protagonist the death blow.  Then, the Predator looks to a hilltop to find 3 Predators, his kin, uncloaked and watching. The Predator then looks to the opposite hilltop to see the human villagers, watching.

Then, the impossible happens. The protagonist, with fatal wounds, somehow musters the strength to stand one more time infront of the Predator, and the Predator watches in awe. They all do.

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/pkfGx3.gif)

After finally slaying the Protagonist, the Predator bends on one knee, in respect and glorious honor of his challenger.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: RidgeTop on Jan 04, 2019, 07:43:23 PM
Looks like Yuri's posts have been removed from Instagram.

EDIT: His whole Instagram account is down...
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Jan 04, 2019, 08:15:12 PM
Not sure that's going to help any. Cats already out of the bag :-X
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 04, 2019, 08:23:58 PM
The plot, like my gravy, thickens!

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/12cV6Hxh3plOJa/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c2fc0a276335351412a3362)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 04, 2019, 09:18:15 PM
So was this a joke on us or a major joke averted?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 04, 2019, 10:04:19 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 04, 2019, 09:18:15 PM
So was this a joke on us or a major joke averted?

It was a mortar round that just missed our collective face.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: OWLF on Jan 04, 2019, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 04, 2019, 10:12:31 AM
Here's a question I have about the opening space jump... was that just a jump through space, point A to point B kind of deal or did the ship also jump through time? I mean in trying to figure out the reasoning behind the Ripley and Newt alternative endings... they could have intended for the Predator to be a dimensional race. Which would have been an upgrade. :)
Interesting point. For all we know it could have been a jump through time with the Fugitive Predator traveling back in time with Ripley/Newt in tow and being hunted by a "Future" Upgrade Predator. Predators are know to appear through out different times in history. But I think this must be somehow connected to Neill Blomkamp's Alien 5 storyline where Ripley and Newt become very relevant to the Predator race for them to steal them from Weyland-Yutani in their pods. Interestingly enough the pod number is 3, meaning the other ending was with Hicks?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 04, 2019, 10:23:40 PM
I'd wager they did this in the spur of the moment. It is highly doubtful there was any legitimate reason for this other than shock value or to try and give the storyline some hope for a future. This was just the last scream of a drowning narrative. There was no plan. We can only take what they threw on the floor, and make our own thing out of it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Jan 04, 2019, 10:24:54 PM
Why is Newt dressed like AOTC Padme?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 04, 2019, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 04, 2019, 10:24:54 PM
Why is Newt dressed like AOTC Padme?

That's who she reminded me of. Couldn't put my finger on it till now.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Billiken on Jan 04, 2019, 10:51:07 PM
The Predator killer suit would be better in an alien v Predator crossover and call it the alien killer. ie and the human who teams up with the Predator wears it and they go on their merry way killing aliens. Why would a Predator design something to kill his own kind. never made much sense to me
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Jan 05, 2019, 12:54:38 AM
Whatever they were thinking, it was never gonna work.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Naginata on Jan 05, 2019, 01:37:05 AM
If you'd have told me a couple months ago that Iron Predator was the least ridiculous of the filmed endings...  :P
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: acrediblesource on Jan 05, 2019, 02:05:19 AM
So will these cuts be released on a special edition coming soon ?? and when is soon?

I'd like to make my own cut of the film, and I'm hoping they polished it to a point of viewable. The Iron Predator looks terrible. Anatomically and proportionally atrocious. Looked like those horribly crafted  models from the first Injustice  game. Bleh!!!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 05, 2019, 02:30:19 AM
Did anyone save the images before they went down?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: acrediblesource on Jan 05, 2019, 03:18:11 AM
KiramidHead: I think the posts on instagram went down. The images in the post in this article on avpgalaxy still display them. If i'm not mistaken there are three images of Newt from the video shoot
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 05, 2019, 03:21:58 AM
Gotcha, when I checked the articles before the pics were all in embedded instagram posts.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Diamondback Predator on Jan 05, 2019, 03:36:14 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 05, 2019, 02:05:19 AM
So will these cuts be released on a special edition coming soon ?? and when is soon?

I'd like to make my own cut of the film, and I'm hoping they polished it to a point of viewable. The Iron Predator looks terrible. Anatomically and proportionally atrocious. Looked like those horribly crafted  models from the first Injustice  game. Bleh!!!

Hi everyone, I'm wondering if there is any version released yet with an alternate ending? Thanks for your time
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 05, 2019, 03:37:24 AM
Quote from: Diamondback Predator on Jan 05, 2019, 03:36:14 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 05, 2019, 02:05:19 AM
So will these cuts be released on a special edition coming soon ?? and when is soon?

I'd like to make my own cut of the film, and I'm hoping they polished it to a point of viewable. The Iron Predator looks terrible. Anatomically and proportionally atrocious. Looked like those horribly crafted  models from the first Injustice  game. Bleh!!!

Hi everyone, I'm wondering if there is any version released yet with an alternate ending? Thanks for your time

No, nothing released, nothing announced so far.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Eldritch_DM on Jan 05, 2019, 05:31:29 AM
Wait. Which images went down, the Newt ending? or the Ripley one? For a moment, when I logged in, I thought there was SURPRISE ANOTHER TWIST ENDING! lol
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 05, 2019, 07:16:57 AM
Quote from: Badwolf-00 on Jan 05, 2019, 05:31:29 AM
Wait. Which images went down, the Newt ending? or the Ripley one? For a moment, when I logged in, I thought there was SURPRISE ANOTHER TWIST ENDING! lol
What happened is that Yuri-san's Instagram account was apparently deleted, and apparently so was he. I'm not saying it was Vladimir Putin but...

Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 04, 2019, 10:24:54 PM
Why is Newt dressed like AOTC Padme?
A back up 3rd alternate ending? Actually didn't Disney buy Fox... oh goody, here comes the alien/predator/star wars crossover.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Eldritch_DM on Jan 05, 2019, 07:26:14 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 04, 2019, 10:24:54 PM
Why is Newt dressed like AOTC Padme?
QuoteA back up 3rd alternate ending? Actually didn't Disney buy Fox... oh goody, here comes the alien/predator/star wars crossover.

ewww no. lol
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: PsyKore on Jan 05, 2019, 09:58:11 AM
Yuri made a decision and it was... wrong. It was a bad call, Fox. It was a bad call.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 05, 2019, 10:09:21 AM
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 05, 2019, 09:58:11 AM
Yuri made a decision and it was... wrong. It was a bad call, Fox. It was a bad call.
Bad call?  These people are f**king dead, Fox!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Jan 05, 2019, 03:57:31 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 05, 2019, 10:09:21 AM
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 05, 2019, 09:58:11 AM
Yuri made a decision and it was... wrong. It was a bad call, Fox. It was a bad call.
Bad call?  These people are f**king dead, Fox!
Haha.  Works perfectly! 
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: BabyDanDan on Jan 06, 2019, 12:22:25 AM
The actress playing Newt is stacked and I don't know how to feel about it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: funk_master_chunk on Jan 06, 2019, 02:51:49 PM
Not been on here in a few weeks and I come back to this?

Yowzer!

WTF where they thinking??

I distinctly remember Black speaking out saying that this film would be the 5th in the series but, my word, I could never imagine they'd try to bridge the AvP gap like this.

Utterly shocking stuff!!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Jan 06, 2019, 03:05:21 PM
Quote from: BabyDanDan on Jan 06, 2019, 12:22:25 AM
The actress playing Newt is stacked and I don't know how to feel about it.

My points exactly when Neill Blomkamp released his ALIEN 5 concept art of Newt appearing to be a boiler suit wearing version of actress Carrie Henn as she looks as an adult now- which "surprises" some fans.

The comics were going for a slim, but stacked (big boobed) blonde. I'm sure that would impress the feminists, as well as be awkward for fans who "knew" of Newt before she reached the age of consent.

Oh boy.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: BabyDanDan on Jan 06, 2019, 12:22:25 AM
The actress playing Newt is stacked and I don't know how to feel about it.

Been fighting with that one since the moment I saw it. It's breast not to think about it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 06, 2019, 05:41:09 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: BabyDanDan on Jan 06, 2019, 12:22:25 AM
The actress playing Newt is stacked and I don't know how to feel about it.

Been fighting with that one since the moment I saw it. It's breast not to think about it.

There's no amount of rabbit facepalms I can use to convey my disappointment in your puns.

Verm is gonna laugh, though. I can see it now.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:46:33 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 06, 2019, 05:41:09 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: BabyDanDan on Jan 06, 2019, 12:22:25 AM
The actress playing Newt is stacked and I don't know how to feel about it.

Been fighting with that one since the moment I saw it. It's breast not to think about it.

There's no amount of rabbit facepalms I can use to convey my disappointment in your puns.

That hurts. I make one boob joke and it goes "bust".
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Eldritch_DM on Jan 06, 2019, 05:51:07 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:46:33 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 06, 2019, 05:41:09 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: BabyDanDan on Jan 06, 2019, 12:22:25 AM
The actress playing Newt is stacked and I don't know how to feel about it.

Been fighting with that one since the moment I saw it. It's breast not to think about it.

There's no amount of rabbit facepalms I can use to convey my disappointment in your puns.

That hurts. I make one boob joke and it goes "bust".

(https://media.giphy.com/media/wVcNP3TnXbl84/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Kurgan on Jan 06, 2019, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:46:33 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 06, 2019, 05:41:09 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: BabyDanDan on Jan 06, 2019, 12:22:25 AM
The actress playing Newt is stacked and I don't know how to feel about it.

Been fighting with that one since the moment I saw it. It's breast not to think about it.

There's no amount of rabbit facepalms I can use to convey my disappointment in your puns.

That hurts. I make one boob joke and it goes "bust".

Whole situation went tits up.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 05:55:37 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 05, 2019, 07:16:57 AM
A back up 3rd alternate ending? Actually didn't Disney buy Fox... oh goody, here comes the alien/predator/star wars crossover.
Like anything, handled properly, it could work. But 999,999 times out of a million, we'd get some awful ham-handed garbage.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jan 06, 2019, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 05:55:37 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 05, 2019, 07:16:57 AM
A back up 3rd alternate ending? Actually didn't Disney buy Fox... oh goody, here comes the alien/predator/star wars crossover.
Like anything, handled properly, it could work. But 999,999 times out of a million, we'd get some awful ham-handed garbage.

Jeez... bringing Star Wars into it would also by association bring E.T. into it...

GERT vs. ALIENS vs. PREDATOR!!!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Samhain13 on Jan 06, 2019, 06:11:45 PM
Quote from: BabyDanDan on Jan 06, 2019, 12:22:25 AM
The actress playing Newt is stacked and I don't know how to feel about it.

You never saw the comics huh?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 06:19:37 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 06, 2019, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:46:33 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 06, 2019, 05:41:09 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 06, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: BabyDanDan on Jan 06, 2019, 12:22:25 AM
The actress playing Newt is stacked and I don't know how to feel about it.

Been fighting with that one since the moment I saw it. It's breast not to think about it.

There's no amount of rabbit facepalms I can use to convey my disappointment in your puns.

That hurts. I make one boob joke and it goes "bust".

Whole situation went tits up.

I'm gland it's over. We'll always have the mammaries to look back on.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jan 06, 2019, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 05:55:37 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 05, 2019, 07:16:57 AM
A back up 3rd alternate ending? Actually didn't Disney buy Fox... oh goody, here comes the alien/predator/star wars crossover.
Like anything, handled properly, it could work. But 999,999 times out of a million, we'd get some awful ham-handed garbage.

Jeez... bringing Star Wars into it would also by association bring E.T. into it...

GERT vs. ALIENS vs. PREDATOR!!!
As a sight gag, we could put a xeno on the flying bike :D But if we use 2002 ET aesthetics, all the weapons become walkie-talkies.  ::)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 07, 2019, 08:07:22 AM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jan 06, 2019, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 05:55:37 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 05, 2019, 07:16:57 AM
A back up 3rd alternate ending? Actually didn't Disney buy Fox... oh goody, here comes the alien/predator/star wars crossover.
Like anything, handled properly, it could work. But 999,999 times out of a million, we'd get some awful ham-handed garbage.

Jeez... bringing Star Wars into it would also by association bring E.T. into it...

GERT vs. ALIENS vs. PREDATOR!!!
As a sight gag, we could put a xeno on the flying bike :D But if we use 2002 ET aesthetics, all the weapons become walkie-talkies.  ::)
Holy shit, my god, a xeno on a flying bike racing past the moon would be awesome. Calling it now, glowing xeno finger in the next alien movie. Oh and of course ET will be in the basket.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Jan 07, 2019, 02:23:13 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 08, 2019, 12:04:58 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 07, 2019, 08:07:22 AM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jan 06, 2019, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 05:55:37 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 05, 2019, 07:16:57 AM
A back up 3rd alternate ending? Actually didn't Disney buy Fox... oh goody, here comes the alien/predator/star wars crossover.
Like anything, handled properly, it could work. But 999,999 times out of a million, we'd get some awful ham-handed garbage.

Jeez... bringing Star Wars into it would also by association bring E.T. into it...

GERT vs. ALIENS vs. PREDATOR!!!
As a sight gag, we could put a xeno on the flying bike :D But if we use 2002 ET aesthetics, all the weapons become walkie-talkies.  ::)
Holy shit, my god, a xeno on a flying bike racing past the moon would be awesome. Calling it now, glowing xeno finger in the next alien movie. Oh and of course ET will be in the basket.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 02:09:02 AM
My brother has that on a t-shirt.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 04:28:30 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 08, 2019, 12:04:58 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 07, 2019, 08:07:22 AM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jan 06, 2019, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Jan 06, 2019, 05:55:37 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 05, 2019, 07:16:57 AM
A back up 3rd alternate ending? Actually didn't Disney buy Fox... oh goody, here comes the alien/predator/star wars crossover.
Like anything, handled properly, it could work. But 999,999 times out of a million, we'd get some awful ham-handed garbage.

Jeez... bringing Star Wars into it would also by association bring E.T. into it...

GERT vs. ALIENS vs. PREDATOR!!!
As a sight gag, we could put a xeno on the flying bike :D But if we use 2002 ET aesthetics, all the weapons become walkie-talkies.  ::)
Holy shit, my god, a xeno on a flying bike racing past the moon would be awesome. Calling it now, glowing xeno finger in the next alien movie. Oh and of course ET will be in the basket.
Eh... that'll do huggs. That'll do.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Frosty Venom on Jan 08, 2019, 06:04:24 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 02:09:02 AM
My brother has that on a t-shirt.

So does mine!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 06:32:42 AM
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Jan 08, 2019, 06:04:24 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 02:09:02 AM
My brother has that on a t-shirt.

So does mine!
Suddenly I feel so inadequate. No brother and no alien ET tee shirt.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 08, 2019, 02:05:54 PM
The one i always see is of the Alien killing Elliot lol
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?

An alien with an even more dick-shaped head ?  ;D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Jan 08, 2019, 06:27:53 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 02:09:02 AM
My brother has that on a t-shirt.
I'd love to see a picture of that t-shirt  ;D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Jan 09, 2019, 12:57:58 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?

An alien with an even more dick-shaped head ?  ;D
Lol!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 09, 2019, 12:57:58 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?

An alien with an even more dick-shaped head ?  ;D
Lol!
Think that's wild, wait until you see it's little mouth.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 09, 2019, 03:21:02 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 09, 2019, 12:57:58 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?

An alien with an even more dick-shaped head ?  ;D
Lol!
Think that's wild, wait until you see it's little mouth.

Which one?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Stitch on Jan 09, 2019, 09:23:11 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 09, 2019, 12:57:58 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?

An alien with an even more dick-shaped head ?  ;D
Lol!
Think that's wild, wait until you see it's little mouth.
It glows!  :o
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jan 09, 2019, 09:23:11 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 09, 2019, 12:57:58 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?

An alien with an even more dick-shaped head ?  ;D
Lol!
Think that's wild, wait until you see it's little mouth.
It glows!  :o
Just the tip.

But ET looks more like a scrotum than a phallus so lose the little mouth and have a little scrotum drop down instead.

Back on the even more insane in the membrane alternative acts... ET in the pod would have made much more sense. ET was intercepted on his journey home and is an intergalactically protected species. At least the motive would have been clear. And the upgrade Predator should have had a cowboy hat and giant belt buckle.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jan 09, 2019, 10:11:07 PM
Speak & Spell: "That is correct. Now, spell 'Xenomorph'.

Gert (frantically typing on Speak & Spell): "EMERGENCY OVERRIDE 100375. WHAT IS SPECIAL ORDER 937?"

Speak & Spell: "That is incorrect. 'Xenomorph' is spelled X-E-N-"

[Speak & Spell impaled by alien tail]
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Jan 09, 2019, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jan 09, 2019, 09:23:11 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 09, 2019, 12:57:58 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?

An alien with an even more dick-shaped head ?  ;D
Lol!
Think that's wild, wait until you see it's little mouth.
It glows!  :o
Just the tip.

But ET looks more like a scrotum than a phallus so lose the little mouth and have a little scrotum drop down instead.

Back on the even more insane in the membrane alternative acts... ET in the pod would have made much more sense. ET was intercepted on his journey home and is an intergalactically protected species. At least the motive would have been clear. And the upgrade Predator should have had a cowboy hat and giant belt buckle.

Oh my  :o :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Huggs on Jan 10, 2019, 01:34:49 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jan 09, 2019, 09:23:11 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 09, 2019, 12:57:58 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?

An alien with an even more dick-shaped head ?  ;D
Lol!
Think that's wild, wait until you see it's little mouth.
It glows!  :o
Just the tip.

But ET looks more like a scrotum than a phallus so lose the little mouth and have a little scrotum drop down instead.

Back on the even more insane in the membrane alternative acts... ET in the pod would have made much more sense. ET was intercepted on his journey home and is an intergalactically protected species. At least the motive would have been clear. And the upgrade Predator should have had a cowboy hat and giant belt buckle.

No spurs?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 10, 2019, 06:57:26 PM
Hmm, no "Stay on target" gif.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/kPtv3UIPrv36cjxqLs/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c37953968316561639fac64)

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 10, 2019, 07:19:19 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 10, 2019, 06:57:26 PM
Hmm, no "Stay on target" gif.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/kPtv3UIPrv36cjxqLs/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c37953968316561639fac64)

Probably because the alternate endings are nonsensical enough.

Now, if I started talking about how to bake Reese's Peanut Butter Cup cookies while trimming the cat's nails, then we'd get a "Stay on target" gif.

Wait.
Spoiler
Kyle Reese. Reese's Peanut Butter Cups are my favorite candy . . . what the hell're you doing to me, Voodoo? It took me too long to figure that out!
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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Daniil on Jan 10, 2019, 08:42:48 PM
Do i the only one who firstly thought "Hey, that sounds like cool idea"
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 10, 2019, 10:48:50 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 10, 2019, 01:34:49 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Jan 09, 2019, 09:23:11 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 09, 2019, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 09, 2019, 12:57:58 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 08, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 02:59:35 PM
What would an Alien birthed from ET look like?

An alien with an even more dick-shaped head ?  ;D
Lol!
Think that's wild, wait until you see it's little mouth.
It glows!  :o
Just the tip.

But ET looks more like a scrotum than a phallus so lose the little mouth and have a little scrotum drop down instead.

Back on the even more insane in the membrane alternative acts... ET in the pod would have made much more sense. ET was intercepted on his journey home and is an intergalactically protected species. At least the motive would have been clear. And the upgrade Predator should have had a cowboy hat and giant belt buckle.

No spurs?
Being a Black movie of course they're should have been spurs included.

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 10, 2019, 06:57:26 PM
Hmm, no "Stay on target" gif.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/kPtv3UIPrv36cjxqLs/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c37953968316561639fac64)


Yea, stay of target just like Traeger did right?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 10, 2019, 11:01:41 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 10, 2019, 10:48:50 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 10, 2019, 06:57:26 PM
Hmm, no "Stay on target" gif.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/kPtv3UIPrv36cjxqLs/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c37953968316561639fac64)


Yea, stay of target just like Traeger did right?

Umm, right?  I can't tell if you understood what I was getting at.  Our other resident bunny got it, though. ;D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 11, 2019, 03:05:30 AM
Well it doesn't matter, all I know is someone shot themselves in the back of the head with those alternative endings.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: redalert51 on Jan 14, 2019, 11:43:37 PM
I would like  to know what her role was going to be .. I heard of another ending with a Xenomorph jumping out of the pod  .....
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Jan 15, 2019, 11:47:38 AM
All those endings send the storyline off the rails. There hasn't been any sign of time travel in Alien or Predator. That's a Terminator thing.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on Jan 21, 2019, 02:09:17 PM
They should of made it like the 1980s move "Clue". Multiple endings that were actually shown to the movie audience.

You never knew the outcome till the end.
Was cool.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 26, 2020, 02:46:32 PM
I also asked for him to clarify what he and Shane had to do with the ending that actually made it into the movie:

DEKKER: "We shot it. I wrote that very last line. But I wasn't happy about it. The whole thing seemed to not be in step with that particular franchise. It was one of many ideas that we floated and shot. We shot a version where Ripley was in the cocoon and we shot one where Newt from "Aliens" was in the cocoon. Sigourney didn't want to clear any future for Ripley in the franchise and ultimately I don't think anybody remembers Newt well enough for that to have meant anything"

https://www.moviefone.com/2019/07/12/fred-dekker-interview-night-of-the-creeps-predator/
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on Apr 26, 2020, 07:00:54 PM
As messy as this movie turned out I'm happy they cut this "ending". This would've been stupid.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Apr 26, 2020, 07:13:16 PM
I wonder what McKenna's line was in the Newt version. "That's my new girlfriend, Bubba." :laugh:
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2020, 08:59:11 AM
Oh, Fred. That's just disappointing.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2020, 04:15:59 PM
What were they SMOKING? GANJA, MON?

These endings... I... I thought the script was bad enough. These endings... All of them, are all garbage. Hot. Garbage.

It's almost as if they had no idea what they were doing at all.



Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on Apr 27, 2020, 09:20:05 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2020, 04:15:59 PM
What were they SMOKING? GANJA, MON?

These endings... I... I thought the script was bad enough. These endings... All of them, are all garbage. Hot. Garbage.

It's almost as if they had no idea what they were doing at all.

sigh
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Apr 27, 2020, 10:20:32 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 26, 2020, 02:46:32 PM
I also asked for him to clarify what he and Shane had to do with the ending that actually made it into the movie:

DEKKER: "We shot it. I wrote that very last line. But I wasn't happy about it. The whole thing seemed to not be in step with that particular franchise. It was one of many ideas that we floated and shot. We shot a version where Ripley was in the cocoon and we shot one where Newt from "Aliens" was in the cocoon. Sigourney didn't want to clear any future for Ripley in the franchise and ultimately I don't think anybody remembers Newt well enough for that to have meant anything"

https://www.moviefone.com/2019/07/12/fred-dekker-interview-night-of-the-creeps-predator/

I had thought that it was just outside influence, but for the ideas to have actually come from both him and Shane :-\
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2020, 11:40:52 PM
It would have made sense in some way if it had been Dutch. I could buy him being called "The Predator killer" if he showed up at the end with a bunch of Predator gear salvaged from a bunch of Predator's he had killed. That could make some sense.

But the whole movie is a travesty, so I don't think it would have mattered.

Not unless when Dutch came out of the tube he said "It'z awl bullschit! Awl ov it! Dee ass burguhs da whole biznes."
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Apr 28, 2020, 03:54:20 AM
I believe Dutch was supposed to show up but Arnold declined (again) so we have an ending which just needs to happen rather than the film having an ending. Like why green-light a script with an ending for a guy who notoriously doesn't show up for these? I almost can't believe he signed on for a videogame.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on Apr 28, 2020, 04:10:22 AM
Should have had Danny Glover in the coffin. He'd wake up, say "I'm too old for this shit", and go right back to sleep.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: PsyKore on Apr 28, 2020, 04:55:10 AM
I still think it should've been Gary Busey. :laugh:

"How many times do I have to tell you? You. Don't. Know. What. Your. Dealing. With."

"A f**king alien."

"I'm gonna save your ASS!"

Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on Apr 28, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
What about full-grown Xeno ?

"Hssssssss !"
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2020, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Apr 27, 2020, 10:20:32 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 26, 2020, 02:46:32 PM
I also asked for him to clarify what he and Shane had to do with the ending that actually made it into the movie:

DEKKER: "We shot it. I wrote that very last line. But I wasn't happy about it. The whole thing seemed to not be in step with that particular franchise. It was one of many ideas that we floated and shot. We shot a version where Ripley was in the cocoon and we shot one where Newt from "Aliens" was in the cocoon. Sigourney didn't want to clear any future for Ripley in the franchise and ultimately I don't think anybody remembers Newt well enough for that to have meant anything"

https://www.moviefone.com/2019/07/12/fred-dekker-interview-night-of-the-creeps-predator/

I had thought that it was just outside influence, but for the ideas to have actually come from both him and Shane :-\

Yep.  :-[

Just take him away Jungle Hunter. Just take him away...

(https://i.ibb.co/nD7W3xb/hawkins.gif)

Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 28, 2020, 04:10:22 AM
Should have had Danny Glover in the coffin. He'd wake up, say "I'm too old for this shit", and go right back to sleep.

:D

Quote from: Kradan on Apr 28, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
What about full-grown Xeno ?

"Hssssssss !"

As I mentioned before, an interesting idea that would work. Labeled as a "Predator Killer" and framed as something good for the human race, only to be opened and multiple facehuggers spring out and attach to all the screaming technicians. McKenna jumps out just in time slamming the door shut - fades to a horrific black.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on Apr 28, 2020, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2020, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 28, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
What about full-grown Xeno ?

"Hssssssss !"

As I mentioned before, an interesting idea that would work. Labeled as a "Predator Killer" and framed as something good for the human race, only to be opened and multiple facehuggers spring out and attach to all the screaming technicians. McKenna jumps out just in time slamming the door shut - fades to a horrific black.

I mean, especially since they wanted to turn it into AvP-shared universe.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2020, 10:05:43 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRIKy-V49uoihl5DMls-Pi4Gwr9_9oDDetUq5muIH5gSXk6z6fq&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 28, 2020, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2020, 10:05:43 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRIKy-V49uoihl5DMls-Pi4Gwr9_9oDDetUq5muIH5gSXk6z6fq&usqp=CAU)

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/XR0eYAj.jpg)
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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2020, 12:52:39 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 28, 2020, 11:21:25 PM
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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
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I think Miss Yutani send McKenna, wearing the Predator killer suit, to Yautja Prime as the supreme lider of the Colonial Marines.

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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Prez on Apr 30, 2020, 03:40:01 AM
They should've had Ridley Scott come out of the capsule.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on Apr 30, 2020, 08:48:28 AM
That would've wiped the movie from existence.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Prez on Apr 30, 2020, 03:40:01 AM
They should've had Ridley Scott come out of the capsule.

Take my money!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Apr 30, 2020, 02:24:30 PM
This is why i'd have the PK Suit destroyed as early as possible in a 5th film lol
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Wysps on Apr 30, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 27, 2020, 11:40:52 PM
It would have made sense in some way if it had been Dutch. I could buy him being called "The Predator killer" if he showed up at the end with a bunch of Predator gear salvaged from a bunch of Predator's he had killed. That could make some sense.

But the whole movie is a travesty, so I don't think it would have mattered.

Not unless when Dutch came out of the tube he said "It'z awl bullschit! Awl ov it! Dee ass burguhs da whole biznes."

Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 28, 2020, 03:54:20 AM
I believe Dutch was supposed to show up but Arnold declined (again) so we have an ending which just needs to happen rather than the film having an ending. Like why green-light a script with an ending for a guy who notoriously doesn't show up for these? I almost can't believe he signed on for a videogame.

Would have been crazy, but at least it'd have made much more sense  :-\  Or Royce for that matter.  Someone with an actual background in fighting the Predators.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: OpenMaw on Apr 30, 2020, 05:34:02 PM
At the end of the day The Predator is rotten to its core and not a film that could be salvaged. There's no ending that would have made it better, honestly. Just variations on terrible.

Everything the movie does to Predator lore. All the shoddy character work.

I say again, the only redeeming aspect to this film is the soundtrack. They at least kept the original themes at play.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SpaceKase on Apr 30, 2020, 05:48:52 PM
I'm an outlier, but I'm a huge fan of Monster Squad, and I liked The Predator quite a bit in the same regard; so bring on your fanboy hate! Your pure rage only fuels my dark borne heart! Mwa haa haaaa!!

Did it have its studio interference oddities? Absolutely. But more than any other film in the franchises I'm dying to see a Director's cut of this film with the original creature concepts, the Edward James Olmos General restored and the emissary Predators plot sewn back in. I have nothing but respect for bold and ballsy choices when there's thought and intention behind them, even if I may loathe the final product.

Unlike many, I have no problem with concepts of time transit or multiverse theory being explored in the franchises if handled well, because of the simple fact that these are concepts intrinsically linked with our most current theories and comprehension of Spacetime. Also the idea of the Engineers having developed arcane technologies capable of readily transcending dimension into dark and otherworldly realms appeals to me as an enthusiast of cosmic horror. I think the concepts regarding the origins and nature of the original Alien presented thus far have been too narrow in scope, their true and fathomless unknowability should be something to be explored. That being said, having Ripley, Newt, David or really anyone from Alien side of the franchises coming out of that pod feels too on the nose, sorta cheap and generally gross.

The Yautja have never been and should never be a monolithic culture. Like the American Indian tribes, every Yautja clan, and really every individual Yaut should have their own culture, practices, traits and moralities. And conflict among the different clans should be as natural with them as it is with us.

Of the ideas presented here, some I find really compelling. An old and battle weary Dutch coming out the pod would indeed be pretty legit, and I wholeheartedly dig it. Also the idea of a bunch of eggs or face huggers or even a curled up frozen full grown Xeno with a roughly translated "Predator killer" description on the pod could have some rad potential if subsequently handled in a sincere and uncampy way. I personally have no interest in Royce as a character but I honestly think it would have been awesome to have had a scarred-up Isabelle emerge out of that pod and have a Sarah Connor-ish female protagonist brought into the Predator fold. But alas, one can only dream.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 06:49:20 PM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Apr 30, 2020, 05:48:52 PM
I'm an outlier, but I'm a huge fan of Monster Squad, and I liked The Predator quite a bit in the same regard; so bring on your fanboy hate! Your pure rage only fuels my dark borne heart! Mwa haa haaaa!!

Kradan! You know that search for someone else who's a fan of The Predator?

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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on Apr 30, 2020, 08:13:31 PM
Everyone loves Shane and The Predator in the depth of their souls but only the brave ones admit it !
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Vermillion on May 01, 2020, 01:10:59 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Prez on Apr 30, 2020, 03:40:01 AM
They should've had Ridley Scott come out of the capsule.

Take my money!
They called, but I was working on reshoots due to Kevin S.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: SuperiorIronman on May 01, 2020, 02:36:00 AM
If I could change the ending I think it would play out much the same as it does but end with the death of the Assassin rather than going longer. Just give Quinn and Rory a quiet moment together finally reconnecting after fighting crabo stabo.

In this case have the Assassin claim the pod and also Rory. In this case Quinn has the Predator tech but what's in the pod is some sort of next-gen Predator armor that forms around Quinn. Rory is established thanks to his condition to have figured out a bit of Predator tech. So Rory being on the ship activates the suit for his father. Since Quinn is the closest to it and has the experience of using the tech then uses it to get the edge on the Assassin. Not without some blunders because it is alien technology but ultimately they do beat the Assassin.
Then if you want to setup a sequel you can keep the suit in a damaged state. It's either working enough that it's seen in the sequel and or subsequent media or that the suit just broke down between films due to the battle and Quinn being incompatible with it ultimately.
Just show Quinn picking up more gear as time goes on to sell the progression.

As is it really can just end on the death of the Assassin as the last couple of minutes are setup for a tonally different sequel. It works for a videogame but it's not something you could make a film out of.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on May 01, 2020, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on May 01, 2020, 01:10:59 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Prez on Apr 30, 2020, 03:40:01 AM
They should've had Ridley Scott come out of the capsule.

Take my money!
They called, but I was working on reshoots due to Kevin S.

Oh, why Ridley ?

Anyway, good to see you. How's David ?
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Prez on May 01, 2020, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: Kradan on May 01, 2020, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on May 01, 2020, 01:10:59 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Prez on Apr 30, 2020, 03:40:01 AM
They should've had Ridley Scott come out of the capsule.

Take my money!
They called, but I was working on reshoots due to Kevin S.

Oh, why Ridley ?

Anyway, good to see you. How's David ?

Ridley jumping out of the capsule "Hang on a minute. None of this is canon..."
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 01, 2020, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Prez on May 01, 2020, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: Kradan on May 01, 2020, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on May 01, 2020, 01:10:59 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Prez on Apr 30, 2020, 03:40:01 AM
They should've had Ridley Scott come out of the capsule.

Take my money!
They called, but I was working on reshoots due to Kevin S.

Oh, why Ridley ?

Anyway, good to see you. How's David ?

Ridley jumping out of the capsule "Hang on a minute. None of this is canon..."

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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Prez on May 01, 2020, 03:07:54 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 01, 2020, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Prez on May 01, 2020, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: Kradan on May 01, 2020, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on May 01, 2020, 01:10:59 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Prez on Apr 30, 2020, 03:40:01 AM
They should've had Ridley Scott come out of the capsule.

Take my money!
They called, but I was working on reshoots due to Kevin S.

Oh, why Ridley ?

Anyway, good to see you. How's David ?

Ridley jumping out of the capsule "Hang on a minute. None of this is canon..."

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Hahaha. YES  :D :D
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on May 01, 2020, 08:41:22 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 01, 2020, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Prez on May 01, 2020, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: Kradan on May 01, 2020, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on May 01, 2020, 01:10:59 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Prez on Apr 30, 2020, 03:40:01 AM
They should've had Ridley Scott come out of the capsule.

Take my money!
They called, but I was working on reshoots due to Kevin S.

Oh, why Ridley ?

Anyway, good to see you. How's David ?

Ridley jumping out of the capsule "Hang on a minute. None of this is canon..."

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I'll smoke this big f**king cigar. You'll do the fingering
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 02, 2020, 04:12:49 AM
Quote from: Kradan on May 01, 2020, 08:41:22 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 01, 2020, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Prez on May 01, 2020, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: Kradan on May 01, 2020, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on May 01, 2020, 01:10:59 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Prez on Apr 30, 2020, 03:40:01 AM
They should've had Ridley Scott come out of the capsule.

Take my money!
They called, but I was working on reshoots due to Kevin S.

Oh, why Ridley ?

Anyway, good to see you. How's David ?

Ridley jumping out of the capsule "Hang on a minute. None of this is canon..."

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I'll smoke this big f**king cigar. You'll do the fingering

Shane Black would be shocked by such a proposal  :o
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: KiramidHead on May 02, 2020, 04:38:01 AM
Ridley would have the cigar in the pod with him, just like Apone.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on May 02, 2020, 11:33:12 AM
" They want f**king AvP-shared universe ? I'll give them f**king AvP-shared universe !

Oh wait, no, I won't, Nevermind. "
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TurokSwe on Oct 31, 2020, 11:52:58 AM
Quote from: TurokSwe on Dec 29, 2018, 07:10:49 PM
Still better than Ridley Scott's prequel series (though noting that I love those films). We really need more connections, references, and expansions between the franchises to actually solidify the shared universe, AND PLEASE GIVE US AVP3!!! <333

I stand by this.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AliceApocalypse on Nov 09, 2020, 07:36:06 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 30, 2020, 08:13:31 PM
Everyone loves Shane and The Predator in the depth of their souls but only the brave ones admit it !

I'll admit to liking it lol, even though the ending was just weird.  I do love the franchise and except it's variations for what they are, the Predator films are always a fun slasher ride and hope they keep making them.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Kradan on Nov 10, 2020, 06:41:52 AM
I was a bit hyperbolic with that statement but welcome to UCOPWATLTTP ! (Unofficial Club Of People Who Admit Their Love To The Predator)

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Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Billiken on Nov 10, 2020, 11:17:55 AM
I'm definitely not embarrassed by admitting I love the Predator. I walked out of cinema loving it. Honestly thought I would wake up next morning thinking nah it was crap. But I enjoyed everything. A shame we didn't see other Predators
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TurokSwe on Nov 13, 2020, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: Billiken on Nov 10, 2020, 11:17:55 AM
I'm definitely not embarrassed by admitting I love the Predator. I walked out of cinema loving it. Honestly thought I would wake up next morning thinking nah it was crap. But I enjoyed everything. A shame we didn't see other Predators

Completely agree! Sad I didn't get to see it in theatres though.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Billiken on Nov 14, 2020, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: TurokSwe on Nov 13, 2020, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: Billiken on Nov 10, 2020, 11:17:55 AM
I'm definitely not embarrassed by admitting I love the Predator. I walked out of cinema loving it. Honestly thought I would wake up next morning thinking nah it was crap. But I enjoyed everything. A shame we didn't see other Predators

Completely agree! Sad I didn't get to see it in theatres though.

Hopefully we'll see a directors cut and commentary.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: TurokSwe on Nov 16, 2020, 12:09:54 AM
Quote from: Billiken on Nov 14, 2020, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: TurokSwe on Nov 13, 2020, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: Billiken on Nov 10, 2020, 11:17:55 AM
I'm definitely not embarrassed by admitting I love the Predator. I walked out of cinema loving it. Honestly thought I would wake up next morning thinking nah it was crap. But I enjoyed everything. A shame we didn't see other Predators

Completely agree! Sad I didn't get to see it in theatres though.

Hopefully we'll see a directors cut and commentary.

One could only hope!
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 16, 2020, 01:42:44 AM
Quote from: Billiken on Nov 14, 2020, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: TurokSwe on Nov 13, 2020, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: Billiken on Nov 10, 2020, 11:17:55 AM
I'm definitely not embarrassed by admitting I love the Predator. I walked out of cinema loving it. Honestly thought I would wake up next morning thinking nah it was crap. But I enjoyed everything. A shame we didn't see other Predators

Completely agree! Sad I didn't get to see it in theatres though.

Hopefully we'll see a directors cut and commentary.
I don't think a director's cut could salvage the movie just due to the sheer volume of contradictory stuff that was filmed, cut, reshot, etc.

I should re-watch it. I remember walking out of the theatre thinking that it's my least favorite Predator movie but not outright hating it. I liked some parts of it, and there was other stuff that I thought was dumb. I didn't regret seeing it, and I don't regret buying it.
Title: Re: Sounds like there was an alternate ending!
Post by: AliceApocalypse on Nov 17, 2020, 08:07:55 PM
It's definitely not my favorite in the franchise, even though I didn't love it, I still enjoyed it for what it was.  I'm always happy to see more Predator films being made, and I'm hoping to see someone someday capture the essence of the original two.