ffs nobody is putting a gun to your head to view this stuff, so if you hate this stuff, why bother to view them, really.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: locusta on Apr 27, 2017, 09:32:25 AM
Nice detail here. So we see something, what we haven´t seen since ALIEN3, something special, which only happened in the third movie :D Who guesses what that is? ;)
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2017, 09:46:02 AM
Really digging it if the Alien destroying CCTV is deliberate!
So who here gets HBO?
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Infected on Apr 27, 2017, 10:12:35 AM
We are reaching the end of april, in the beginning of may Covenant will be out in the cinema. So if you wanna go in unspoiled you better ignore sites like this and movie sites and be carefull on Youtube, im gonna try to do the same, as for the last years ive read and seen the spoilers before the movies came out, Rogue One was a good example, and that bothered me afterwards because some stuff happens at the end that no one, well at least i didnt expect to happen, so i wonder how would i have experienced that movie if i watched it on my own without spoilers. And this time i get a retry, and with what better movie in our alien history and in my personal history to do this with Covenant.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Apr 27, 2017, 10:40:36 AM
Quote from: locusta on Apr 27, 2017, 09:32:25 AM Nice detail here. So we see something, what we haven´t seen since ALIEN3, something special, which only happened in the third movie :D Who guesses what that is? ;)
I give up
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: zoidy on Apr 27, 2017, 11:23:39 AM
It's probably not destroying the camera, it's probably just capturing it killing a crew member, although the angle would I guess be wrong. We will see.
More importantly, the later sequence showing ridley etc with the practical alien head/torso? With the blood on the mouth, green screen etc, looks like those of us who said the alien in the trailer cut together with Daniels in zero was practical were right ;)
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Infected on Apr 27, 2017, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 27, 2017, 11:23:39 AM It's probably not destroying the camera, it's probably just capturing it killing a crew member, although the angle would I guess be wrong. We will see.
More importantly, the later sequence showing ridley etc with the practical alien head/torso? With the blood on the mouth, green screen etc, looks like those of us who said the alien in the trailer cut together with Daniels in zero was practical were right ;)
Thats what i thought, but if you look in the right corner you can see "section-d" so most likely a security camera. The question i have, is it David or Walter that pulls his head back out of jumpscare, if its Walter, it means he made it back to the Covenant, and did he won the fight with David, and will Walter now turn evil? Or is it David on the Covenant, so David is scared of the xeno, or at least impressed.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Nyarlathotep on Apr 27, 2017, 12:54:16 PM
This makes me wish that I had HBO.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: zoidy on Apr 27, 2017, 02:02:44 PM
No, it's definitely a security camera, I didn't realise the angle - the alien is standing up, it's tail over it's right shoulder (!) killing the camera specifically.
Impressive.
Clever girl ....
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Infected on Apr 27, 2017, 03:01:51 PM
So whats next, an HBO Alien series :)
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: fernandito on Apr 27, 2017, 03:35:38 PM
The alien must be headbiting somebody who has one of those "mother" monitors right behind him, because no covenant crew member carries a camera like colonial marines, me guess. Walter just witnesses this while tracking the alien I suppose.
If this not, then it might be:
a) The alien is very smart and begins breaking cameras so they can't track it b) David gets headbiten
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
I wouldn't say no to that. lol. It's good to see them doing this though. I have vague memories of the old HBO special they did for AvP back in the day.
I wouldn't say no to that. lol. It's good to see them doing this though. I have vague memories of the old HBO special they did for AvP back in the day.
Yep, and with a limited series you could show a lot of the franchise, not too much though, or else it could easily become a Stargate series and loose the magic.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2017, 04:27:36 PM
Wash your mouth out, son! #StargateForever
But yeah, I think if they ever did attempt Alien on the small screen, they'd need to do it in a more limited format with a smaller number of episodes.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: CainsSon on Apr 27, 2017, 04:35:35 PM
I wouldn't say no to that. lol. It's good to see them doing this though. I have vague memories of the old HBO special they did for AvP back in the day.
I really hope this is the case. I think it'd be a great addition to the showcase of their intelligence.
I used to record HBO's BTS Alien specials. There was one for A3 and A:R. Now Im using a DVR to record this one. My biggest gripe with these BTS specials is they dont get in depth ENOUGH!
A Game of Thrones style ALIEN series, would be incredible.
I think we've heard rumors that the Alien can communicate with the ship, in a more direct way. Im not sure how I feel about that. Depends on how its handled I think. I like the idea of a Biomechanical alien that intuits the workings of technology but if the idea here is the mechanical aspects have been removed from the alien and will be added later, than I think they should wait for that. Unless the idea is the Alien is part AI, in THIS film, it should just be that the alien is a smart animal.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Infected on Apr 27, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
But yeah, I think if they ever did attempt Alien on the small screen, they'd need to do it in a more limited format with a smaller number of episodes.
LoL dont worry, i have seen them all when growing up, still have a few episodes of Stargate Universe on my harddrive, lot of potential in that show, but somehow it didnt connect with the people.
What i meant was, that if they do it, they shouldnt go into the engineers like in a Stargate way, when they show a village and an engineers is cooking is stew on fire and is frustrated and yells at his kid and then a dropship comes into the athmosphere and lands, and bla bla and in the end the engineer shakes hands with the colonial army boys because he was wrong about them. ;)
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Vertigo on Apr 27, 2017, 04:42:33 PM
Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis just got better over time. That's not a common occurrence in media.
On the subject of serialisation though, I wonder how a Mass Effect style Aliens game could work? Have the 'hub' and supporting characters be a Weyland-Yutani commando unit (or Colonial Marine detachment tied at the hip to WY) specialising in our favourite dribbly critter. Conversational, gameplay and narrative choices based on whether or not you want to toe the company line, and the mission-based planet-hopping format providing scope for exploring diverse aspects of the Alien universe.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: hfeldhaus on Apr 27, 2017, 04:48:19 PM
But yeah, I think if they ever did attempt Alien on the small screen, they'd need to do it in a more limited format with a smaller number of episodes.
Game of Thrones style series. 10 episodes, big budget. HBO only.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: iain on Apr 27, 2017, 04:56:11 PM
I never watch programmes like this until ive seen the movie.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Huggs on Apr 27, 2017, 06:06:11 PM
Oh goodness yes, if they'd do an alien series I'd be all in. Lower production budgets could be easily glossed over if the series was set on (inside) a ship like the nostromo or sevastapol. Endless small Interior set options would keep things fresh, and you don't really need to show the creature that much for it to be scary. Don't know about HBO though, I'd love to see the "Vikings" crew take a swing at it, maybe AMC (absolutely excluding anyone affiliated with the walking dead, even the catering crew). FX...maybe, Sons was dark enough, but they wouldn't have the budget, well maybe, as long as they keep Kurt Sutter away. He'd give his wife the majority of screen time.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: fernandito on Apr 27, 2017, 06:11:55 PM
Could anybody please translate into understandable english what Scott babbles from 0:13'5 to 0:15?
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Tangakkai on Apr 27, 2017, 07:09:49 PM
"You know something just terrible's gonna happen."
To anybody wondering if this Special reveals too much... yeah, it definitely does. So if you want to go unspoiled, don't watch this. Full on creature design of the Xenomorph and Facehugger.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: fernandito on Apr 27, 2017, 07:18:11 PM
^ Thanks. I swear that understanding what this old man speaks can sometimes feel like an act of faith, specially for a non-native english speaker
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Ragonk_Force on Apr 28, 2017, 08:57:53 AM
"You know something just terrible's gonna happen."
To anybody wondering if this Special reveals too much... yeah, it definitely does. So if you want to go unspoiled, don't watch this. Full on creature design of the Xenomorph and Facehugger.
Have you seen it, how?
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 28, 2017, 06:09:12 PM
I think he means the teaser. We got some good looks in that 30 seconds alone.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 28, 2017, 06:15:20 PM
I don't think I'll watch the HBO special. I haven't seen one in awhile, but I do remember them spoiling quite a bit. I remember one for Deep Blue Sea and it spoiled Samuel L. Jackson's death.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 28, 2017, 06:25:49 PM
Just wait until after you've seen the film?
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 28, 2017, 06:28:32 PM
Yeah, I probably will. Sometimes though I wish they'd release that stuff after the film was released. But I understand the business aspect of such a program. It's to draw in the mainstream audience.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Huggs on Apr 28, 2017, 10:28:27 PM
Boy, the arms on the xeno are ultra thin. Must be the small transparent xeno from the empire article now grown.
Aha! Also notice the crane says "Gillespie" on the side. Proving my long held theory of a Heat of the Night/Alien crossover. "Courtney! It's headed your way...do you read me Courtney!" ;D Seriously though, Sidney Portier would've been amazing in the original film, or at least one of the same period style and delivery. Not to play Parker's character mind you, but an original one. Boy, the arms on the xeno are ultra thin. Must be the small transparent xeno from the empire article now grown.
Aha! Also notice the crane says "Gillespie" on the side. Proving my long held theory of a Heat of the Night/Alien crossover. "Courtney! It's headed your way...do you read me Courtney!" ;D Seriously though, Sidney Portier would've been amazing in the original film, or at least one of the same period style and delivery. Not to play Parker's character mind you, but an original one.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 09, 2017, 07:53:39 AM
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Sway on May 09, 2017, 08:07:12 AM
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: iain on May 11, 2017, 06:32:48 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: RidgeTop on May 11, 2017, 08:24:27 PM
We’ve uploaded the Alien: Covenant HBO First Look special that recently aired. The twelve minute long preview features interviews from the cast and crew, as well as some new footage for those who haven’t seen the film early. The making-of segments give us some new looks at the set design, creature effects, concept art, and filming that we’re sure to see more of in the eventual Blu-ray release.
Well, that's the sad part. They'be been completely painted over with CGI. :-\
It's The Thing prequel all over again.
Hopefully not as severe as that. I liked that prequel, but compared to what it could have been with the original ending and practical effects that ADI showed off after the fact, it was a real disappointment. Its original incarnation likely could've stood up to the original. Still hoping for a Directors Cut someday.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Evanus on May 11, 2017, 09:12:05 PM
Well, that's the sad part. They'be been completely painted over with CGI. :-\
It's The Thing prequel all over again.
Yep. :'(
Btw, what the hell is Ridley holding here? Reminded me of the mosquito trapped in amber from Jurassic Park! :D (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fnr4swVR.png&hash=e03cbc6132e69a4cc68c9c679d57a594aba08417)
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: echobbase79 on May 11, 2017, 09:12:18 PM
Well, that's the sad part. They'be been completely painted over with CGI. :-\
It's The Thing prequel all over again.
Hopefully not as severe as that. I liked that prequel, but compared to what it could have been with the original ending and practical effects that ADI showed off after the fact, it was a real disappointment. Its original incarnation likely could've stood up to the original. Still hoping for a Directors Cut someday.
Yeah, I desperately want a director's cut of that film. I still like it too, just want to see the original FX by ADI. The studio wanted to change them because the practical effects made the film feel to 80's. Yeah, of course it does because you're story is set in 1982.
I'm sure A:C wasn't as severe, but still if you're going to hire a practical effects team then at least use their work. Or don't bother to hire one. It saves money in the budget.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Whos_Nick on May 11, 2017, 09:32:03 PM
Well, that's the sad part. They'be been completely painted over with CGI. :-\
It's The Thing prequel all over again.
Yep. :'(
Btw, what the hell is Ridley holding here? Reminded me of the mosquito trapped in amber from Jurassic Park! :D (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fnr4swVR.png&hash=e03cbc6132e69a4cc68c9c679d57a594aba08417)
that's the little space wasp David has in his shop for Alien mixing
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Evanus on May 11, 2017, 09:34:06 PM
Well, that's the sad part. They'be been completely painted over with CGI. :-\
It's The Thing prequel all over again.
Yep. :'(
Btw, what the hell is Ridley holding here? Reminded me of the mosquito trapped in amber from Jurassic Park! :D (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fnr4swVR.png&hash=e03cbc6132e69a4cc68c9c679d57a594aba08417)
that's the little space wasp David has in his shop for Alien mixing
Ah, I see... :)
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: lv_226 on May 12, 2017, 01:12:57 AM
I have stayed away from reviews, have read some 4chan spoilers, and watched this. I can't f**king wait!! Bring it on!
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on May 12, 2017, 01:49:11 AM
Alien Covenant, though in some regards formulaic it did the job, my eyes were popping, heart pounding and chest bursting. A welcome return for Alien. Will the be well remembered, or fall into obscurity as just another average Alien film for the majority of the fan base. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Glaive on May 12, 2017, 07:01:17 AM
WAS THAE SHAW???
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 12, 2017, 08:12:44 AM
Thanks for catching this, RidgeTop. I'm really looking forward to getting into the movie archeology side of Covenant. I love learning more about the behind-the-scenes. So many good bts shots in this. Gonna get some caps up soon. I've updated the front-page article with a tonne of screencaps. http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/05/11/watch-alien-covenant-hbo-first-look/
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 12, 2017, 02:17:28 PM
I'm intrigued by the script excerpts. Specifically calls out Giger styles.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Beardomorph on May 12, 2017, 02:25:48 PM
Definitely not a word about the Engineer civilisation that I can remember.
man that is disappointing because if we aren't going to get more than a 30 second clip of them all dying THOSE are the sorts of discussions I would want to take place. The crew SHOULD be like HOLY CRAP there is a civilization on this world. What happened to them, how in the world did you survive, etc. etc. David giving second hand explanations for why some aspects are the way that they are.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Beardomorph on May 12, 2017, 03:00:49 PM
Quote from: Robopadna on May 12, 2017, 02:54:07 PMThe crew SHOULD be like HOLY CRAP there is a civilization on this world. What happened to them, how in the world did you survive, etc. etc. David giving second hand explanations for why some aspects are the way that they are.
Well, at that point in the movie they don't feel safe, they're in a state of shock, most of them have lost the partner they gave up life on Earth to go live with, and they're following someone they know they have no reason to trust. If they were landing there for a scientific mission with no immediate danger surrounding them like in Prometheus then yes, I'd be annoyed that they're not trying to figure out more about this civilisation. In context, it's sort of ok.
As for the audience, there is plenty that is not stated but shown ( most of it already leaked through trailers ), so it's not like there hasn't been any effort put into it. In fact, by frame freezing when the movie comes out on dvd/blu-ray, during the scenes taking place in David's lab, I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with a lot more details about the Engineers. I remember a moment with a big diagram of an Engineer in full sight.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Robopadna on May 12, 2017, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: Robopadna on May 12, 2017, 02:54:07 PMThe crew SHOULD be like HOLY CRAP there is a civilization on this world. What happened to them, how in the world did you survive, etc. etc. David giving second hand explanations for why some aspects are the way that they are.
Well, at that point in the movie they don't feel safe, they're in a state of shock, most of them have lost the partner they gave up life on Earth to go live with, and they're following someone they know they have no reason to trust. If they were landing there for a scientific mission with no immediate danger surrounding them like in Prometheus then yes, I'd be annoyed that they're not trying to figure out more about this civilisation. In context, it's sort of ok.
As for the audience, there is plenty that is not stated but shown ( most of it already leaked through trailers ), so it's not like there hasn't been any effort put into it. In fact, by frame freezing when the movie comes out on dvd/blu-ray, during the scenes taking place in David's lab, I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with a lot more details about the Engineers. I remember a moment with a big diagram of an Engineer in full sight.
I just wish the crew would sometimes act like normal humans by not forgetting about their lost friends but CLEARLY questioning what is going on in their lives and what they are walking into. It probably plays a little differently on screen but it seems like they are just meat sacks walking from one place to another to facilitate a scene change and more deaths.
As they are walking to the city wouldn't you want them to act human and wonder what in the hell is going on and how come everyone around them is DEAD? Wouldn't they be scared that a bunch of dead people in this area would be really dangerous? Even if they aren't simply shocked and asking about why there is a CITY on this planet... or a synthetic from earth?
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Beardomorph on May 12, 2017, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: Robopadna on May 12, 2017, 03:06:38 PMAs they are walking to the city wouldn't you want them to act human and wonder what in the hell is going on and how come everyone around them is DEAD? Wouldn't they be scared that a bunch of dead people in this area would be really dangerous? Even if they aren't simply shocked and asking about why there is a CITY on this planet... or a synthetic from earth?
To be fair, I think they do, they just don't get answers whereas in these excerpts of the/a script posted above by Hicks David specifically answers their questions.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Robopadna on May 12, 2017, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: Robopadna on May 12, 2017, 03:06:38 PMAs they are walking to the city wouldn't you want them to act human and wonder what in the hell is going on and how come everyone around them is DEAD? Wouldn't they be scared that a bunch of dead people in this area would be really dangerous? Even if they aren't simply shocked and asking about why there is a CITY on this planet... or a synthetic from earth?
To be fair, I think they do, they just don't get answers whereas in these excerpts of the/a script posted above by Hicks David specifically answers their questions.
Wait, in the movie they ask those questions but don't get answers? Why in the world would they trust David at all then? I would ask a lot MORE questions if this weird android from earth on an alien planet refuses to answer me.
If you mean they ask off screen, then that is terrible film making. The audience also wants to know these answers so it can't be an assumed off screen conversation. It also helps an audience connect with the characters when they see the characters act as normal humans would and ask questions instead of simply being a means to move from one scene to the next.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Sabres21768 on May 12, 2017, 11:11:48 PM
After studying these stills, it's apparent that Neca based their figure on the practical suit. There were some obvious changes once the cg was done that Neca didn't have access to.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Whos_Nick on May 13, 2017, 03:48:32 AM
Interesting script excerpt, Griffin must've been one of the names early on. Shame we didn't see more Giger-esque design for the Engineers city, or more of the crew exploring the city.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Salt The Fries on May 14, 2017, 03:43:10 PM
What's a "Griffin"?
Quote from: Whos_Nick on May 13, 2017, 03:48:32 AM Interesting script excerpt, Griffin must've been one of the names early on. Shame we didn't see more Giger-esque design for the Engineers city, or more of the crew exploring the city.
can you hear me?
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2017, 05:47:42 PM
It's a character from that script excerpt scene briefly in the HBO feature.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Jacku on May 14, 2017, 08:21:22 PM
Wait was that a practical Alien inside the ship? So they did remove it from the film.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2017, 08:22:32 PM
It was painted over with CG.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Jacku on May 14, 2017, 08:25:44 PM
Maybe the practical looked too different from the fast moving cg version for them to mix them together. Shame because xenos have so often been practical.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: dunior on May 14, 2017, 11:28:15 PM
cool
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Sabres21768 on May 15, 2017, 05:28:52 AM
Maybe the practical looked too different from the fast moving cg version for them to mix them together. Shame because xenos have so often been practical.
You can tell, just from the brief view of it, that the practical suit had some serious limitations.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on May 15, 2017, 10:18:19 AM
Ther fact that they CGI'd over the Alien on the ship, reminds me of the Prequel to The Thing a few years ago.
Title: Re: HBO First Look - Alien: Covenant
Post by: Alien/Xenomorph on May 16, 2017, 01:39:55 PM
Holy Crap, God Damn!!!! This is gonna be awesome!!! :0