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Title: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:06:30 AM

The Alien: Covenant teaser trailer is now online! The agonizing wait is finally over. After several days of teasing with production stills and unexplained numbers, the much anticipated trailer has finally hit the web!

This trailer is one of two that we know were screened to the press earlier in December. The embargo on the Showcase 2017 having now lifted, we’ll have more detailed recounting of the previewed footage over the next few days.

We will be updating our gallery with screen captures from the trailer and we’ll post a breakdown article in short order too. Keep a close eye on Alien vs. Predator Galaxy for the latest on Alien: Covenant! You can follow us on FacebookTwitter and Instagram to get the latest on your social media walls. You can also join in with fellow Alien fans on our forums!

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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 05:04:18 AM
Time to open our presents!
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Post by: Hard-R on Dec 25, 2016, 05:06:54 AM
Loving it!!!
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Post by: Frank on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:25 AM
Beautiful
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Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Dec 25, 2016, 05:11:53 AM
Now, this has my attention. I'm very excited for this!
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Post by: Born Of Cold Light on Dec 25, 2016, 05:12:58 AM
Complete galactic saturation.


First time I watched it, the Alien at the end had a Resurrection vibe that I didn't like.  Second time though, it was not really that obvious.
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Post by: x-M-x on Dec 25, 2016, 05:15:09 AM
 :)

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Post by: Kimo on Dec 25, 2016, 05:15:32 AM
Awsome.  ;D
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Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 25, 2016, 05:16:20 AM
Damn, both Alien and Blade Runner are going full force with the awesome teasers. 8)
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Post by: Inverse Effect on Dec 25, 2016, 05:19:54 AM
Dat Ending part xD
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Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 25, 2016, 05:21:19 AM
Quote from: Guts on Dec 25, 2016, 05:19:54 AM
Dat Ending part xD

Not a threesome you want to be a part of. :laugh:
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Post by: kaustin7 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:23:19 AM
I think it looks great and I watched Prometheus again last night in anticipation...the "back burster" looks terrifying. The landscapes appear incredible.

I dig going back/forward to something that is similar to the original facehugger and appearance to the "Xenomorph." David also looks awesome.

I appreciate Prometheus, this looks like its going to cater to fans a lot more, similar to what Star Wars is doing, which is fine. Give the fans movies that they want.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:24:29 AM
Well...that was intense, I thought. Loving the general vibe of that.

And Enoch, you were right on the money with that cover!
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Post by: Kimo on Dec 25, 2016, 05:26:18 AM
Why is it if I watch a 2minutes and 14 second music clip on YouTube it seems like it takes forever to finish... But when watching this awsome Alien Covenant trailer that's the same length? It's over in seconds.  :'( Dam I want more.
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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 25, 2016, 05:27:18 AM
WOW!

BRILLIANT!!!
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 05:29:01 AM
Perfect first trailer. Didn't give anything away really, but we know what it looks like aesthetically now.
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Post by: Feeds On Minds on Dec 25, 2016, 05:31:08 AM
I guess I'm alone when I say this trailer did nothing for me; just more of the same and the alien was very obviously cgi
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Post by: howard.moody.566 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:31:22 AM
It looks like an Alien rip-off.
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Post by: x-M-x on Dec 25, 2016, 05:31:51 AM
So that crashed Ship is obviously the one Shaw/david where flying?


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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 05:32:03 AM
Awesome! Also, I'm assuming that is the Prometheus David standing behind the egg as it's opening.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Fo8h3qa.jpg&hash=d509d20c22d762d0a8058ea7d5ab2e0659e09ec7)
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Post by: x-M-x on Dec 25, 2016, 05:33:35 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 05:32:03 AM
Awesome! Also, I'm assuming that is the Prometheus David standing behind the egg as it's opening.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Fo8h3qa.jpg&hash=d509d20c22d762d0a8058ea7d5ab2e0659e09ec7)

More like Walter dude.


Our David will have scars n shit around his neck, when he was repaired.

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Post by: MajorB on Dec 25, 2016, 05:33:41 AM
How many times have you watched it so far?

I lost count after the fifth time!
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 05:35:26 AM
The shot of the xenomorph is interesting. It looks like it has its hand pushed up against glass separating the couple.
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Post by: Samus007 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:37:08 AM
Oh man,  that looks so good!
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Post by: Born Of Cold Light on Dec 25, 2016, 05:38:55 AM
So we have airborne spores and facehuggers; I hope those eggs came from egg morphing.
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Post by: Necronomicon II on Dec 25, 2016, 05:40:03 AM
Looks stunning, New Zealand truly is a beautiful place. Fassbender was right it does look like a mix between Alien and Prometheus. And now having seen a bit of the shower scene, it's exactly what I thought it would be. Should be intense!
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 05:40:25 AM
You can also see the neomorph for a split second through the cargo net. Also loving the spore concept even though it's a ground pod vs the hanging pod I was expecting.

Quote from: Born Of Cold Light on Dec 25, 2016, 05:38:55 AM
So we have airborne spores and facehuggers; I hope those eggs came from egg morphing.
Hah! In that case the egg could literally be Shaw!
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Post by: irving343 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:42:12 AM
Ugh, I know it's early days but this trailer has shattered my excitement, recycled imagery from Prometheus and Alien, as generic as trailers can get, and the last shot is just laughable, may have been shocking in 1979, but not in 2017.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:43:16 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 05:32:03 AM
Awesome! Also, I'm assuming that is the Prometheus David standing behind the egg as it's opening.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Fo8h3qa.jpg&hash=d509d20c22d762d0a8058ea7d5ab2e0659e09ec7)

Yep, David.

Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 05:35:26 AM
The shot of the xenomorph is interesting. It looks like it has its hand pushed up against glass separating the couple.

Looks like that shot was what the poster was intended to be.
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Post by: Kimo on Dec 25, 2016, 05:43:29 AM
I love how the Alien has its hands pressed against the glass before it attacks. Its hands look way longer and thinner then the xeno in the first alien movie did from what I could make out.

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Post by: Engineer on Dec 25, 2016, 05:45:58 AM
I'm satisfied with the trailer and what I saw. I think I'll enjoy this far more than I did Prometheus. It Doesn't seem like they've made the same mistakes, which is good...

... but for whatever reason, I still can't shake the feeling/vibe that this isn't really "alien." Something still feels off about it!
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Post by: DaddyYautja on Dec 25, 2016, 05:46:33 AM
Hmmmm, the trailer makes it seem like they just remade Alien.

They dropped in a different location but the series of events are almost the same.

A group of people land on a planet with a Jock ship, explore it, and get infected.

And if this group knows what they are looking for... why would they walk in unprotected? The planet having a breathable atmosphere is not an excuse. That scene of being infected by the spore is the same silliness we saw in Prometheus from people that should know better.
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Post by: Jeri on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:00 AM
Damn.... Looks awesome, visuals look great!

Wasn't the spore parasite introduce in one of  the unmade scripts for Alien 3?  :P

Lol now I can finally rest..
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:43 AM
So did anyone spot Weyland?
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Post by: Makala on Dec 25, 2016, 05:51:27 AM
I was thinking the same.. Maybe
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Post by: aliens13 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:54:33 AM
Hey Hicks, are you going to upload the trailer on 1080p?
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 05:55:49 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:43 AM
So did anyone spot Weyland?
No. Is he supposed to be in the trailer? Also David looks a little chunkier where as Walter pretty much looks like David from Prometheus. Also that shot at the beginning, I'm wondering if the two are Walter and David.
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Post by: MajorB on Dec 25, 2016, 05:56:34 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:43 AM
So did anyone spot Weyland?

I'm pretty sure this silhouette is Weyland.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKLMwhYy.png&hash=3664538de9b392275f433d96d9649d81e240836f)
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Post by: Xenomorphine on Dec 25, 2016, 05:56:59 AM
The dogtags are clearly from someone, though whether that someone is a transmogrified Shaw is really anyone's guess.

Eh, serviceable. Moody, though nothing special, IMO. Not at all on the level of that famous 'Prometheus' one, but then, few things really could be.

There was something a bit artificial-looking and unconvincing about the Alien's face. Not sure why.

At least it had more promise than the lazy poster design. Guess we now know why there were two pools of blood in that set picture, eh? My guess is that the reason the other woman can't be let out is that both her and the other guy are believed to be infected.

Starting to have problems with Ridley Scott's infatuation with supposed professionals not wearing any protective suits... It's not like they couldn't have also given the pods serrated thorns to tear through the suit material and infect people that way. It's way too much like 'Star Trek' to have professionals not care about native bacteria/parasites/whatever, which could literally be anywhere in an atmosphere and for which they would potentially have no cure.

I mean, I get that, thematically, he's probably trying to push an underlying psychological theme of sacrificial vulnerability and 'shedding one's skin', but it still feels as superficial as it did the last time.

So, yes, interesting, but it hasn't given me a reason to raise my expectations. Still feels a little too close to 'Prometheus' for that. Nice to hear some of the original sound effects, however. :)
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Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 25, 2016, 05:57:49 AM
No clue what to make of this. Some of it looks fairly interesting, but a lot of it looks like a really generic, run of the mill slasher. I guess it's for the best that the trailer doesn't have me as excited as the Prometheus trailer did. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised this time, rather than completely burnt by the experience. I want to love this and there are some elements of the trailer that seem like they have the potential to work, but Alien is just one of those movies that I love and will always hold dear to my heart, so it upsets me so much when I see the property mangled the way it has been, especially at the hands of Ridley Scott himself. Some of this just seems so cheap and below him, even below Prometheus somehow. Like it's just horror schlock without any of the integrity of the original, or any of the ambition (however misplaced and butchered it was) of Prometheus.

I want to like this. I want to love it. I don't want to keep feeling burnt by this franchise.
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 25, 2016, 06:01:17 AM
That was amazing!!! Was that David in the black robe?

For some reason I wasn't expecting Jack Paglen to be credited lol.
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Post by: anduu on Dec 25, 2016, 06:02:04 AM
Quote from: MajorB on Dec 25, 2016, 05:56:34 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:43 AM
So did anyone spot Weyland?

I'm pretty sure this silhouette is Weyland.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKLMwhYy.png&hash=3664538de9b392275f433d96d9649d81e240836f)

I was thinking that was David and Walter meeting...could be wrong
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Post by: Eldritch_DM on Dec 25, 2016, 06:03:06 AM
Beautiful... I'm weeping... gave me goosebumps the whole time. Merry Christmas to me!!

Also, Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to everyone no matter what you celebrate!
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Post by: monkeylove on Dec 25, 2016, 06:03:43 AM
Quote from: Feeds On Minds on Dec 25, 2016, 05:31:08 AM
I guess I'm alone when I say this trailer did nothing for me; just more of the same and the alien was very obviously cgi

You're not alone. Looks ordinary to me.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:03:53 AM
Quote from: MajorB on Dec 25, 2016, 05:56:34 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:43 AM
So did anyone spot Weyland?

I'm pretty sure this silhouette is Weyland.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKLMwhYy.png&hash=3664538de9b392275f433d96d9649d81e240836f)

Yep! Looks like the footage we described when we broke the Weyland news.
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Post by: theBitchIsBack on Dec 25, 2016, 06:05:08 AM
I'm mega excited guys but  the Prometheus trailer was done better imo something feels off
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Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 06:05:54 AM
Nope, sorry, just seems like Prometheus with xenomorphs in it.
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Post by: Gvxz on Dec 25, 2016, 06:05:56 AM
 :o
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Post by: monkeylove on Dec 25, 2016, 06:06:04 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 25, 2016, 05:46:33 AM
Hmmmm, the trailer makes it seem like they just remade Alien.

They dropped in a different location but the series of events are almost the same.

A group of people land on a planet with a Jock ship, explore it, and get infected.

And if this group knows what they are looking for... why would they walk in unprotected? The planet having a breathable atmosphere is not an excuse. That scene of being infected by the spore is the same silliness we saw in Prometheus from people that should know better.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the cowboy hat, the actress who reminds me of Ripley, etc.
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 06:06:17 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:03:53 AM
Quote from: MajorB on Dec 25, 2016, 05:56:34 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:43 AM
So did anyone spot Weyland?

I'm pretty sure this silhouette is Weyland.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKLMwhYy.png&hash=3664538de9b392275f433d96d9649d81e240836f)
Yep! Looks like the footage we described when we broke the Weyland news.
Yea but Weyland was a very old man in Prometheus, there he looks to be no worse than 40 from behind. I'm thinking it's Walter sitting and David standing. Then again it could be Weyland I suppose. :laugh:
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Post by: x-M-x on Dec 25, 2016, 06:12:37 AM
In case you guys want it.

http://avpunknown.com/trailers/Alien_Covenant_Trailer_1.zip

Cheers
x-M-x


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Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 06:14:10 AM
Is there an isolation influence ? Didgigrade legs or normal human legs?

The scene where the woman refuses to open is obviously from alien.

Looks stunning looks amazing even better than Prometheus.

No engineers #sulk#

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Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 06:14:45 AM
Quote from: monkeylove on Dec 25, 2016, 06:06:04 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 25, 2016, 05:46:33 AM
Hmmmm, the trailer makes it seem like they just remade Alien.

They dropped in a different location but the series of events are almost the same.

A group of people land on a planet with a Jock ship, explore it, and get infected.

And if this group knows what they are looking for... why would they walk in unprotected? The planet having a breathable atmosphere is not an excuse. That scene of being infected by the spore is the same silliness we saw in Prometheus from people that should know better.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the cowboy hat, the actress who reminds me of Ripley, etc.


It feels like one of those shitty Alien ripoffs from the 80s and 90s but actually done by the guy who should know how to handle his own source material
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Post by: rustyredraccoon on Dec 25, 2016, 06:15:34 AM
I LOVED the Prometheus trailer and the movie ended up disappointing. I'm lukewarm on this trailer which gives me hope for Alien Covenant. I do agree that it looks like it is just going to be a mishmash of the old films with a few new twists.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:16:19 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 06:06:17 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:03:53 AM
Quote from: MajorB on Dec 25, 2016, 05:56:34 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:43 AM
So did anyone spot Weyland?

I'm pretty sure this silhouette is Weyland.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKLMwhYy.png&hash=3664538de9b392275f433d96d9649d81e240836f)
Yep! Looks like the footage we described when we broke the Weyland news.
Yea but Weyland was a very old man in Prometheus, there he looks to be no worse than 40 from behind. I'm thinking it's Walter sitting and David standing. Then again it could be Weyland I suppose. :laugh:

He's not supposed to be old there.

Here, refresh your memory (spoilers) http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/10/29/avpgalaxy-exclusive-guy-pearce-returns-alien-covenant/
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Post by: Jigsaw85 on Dec 25, 2016, 06:17:34 AM
I'll be honest: I was underwhelmed. It didn't feel like an Alien film, it felt like a cheap 90s sci-fi horror film. Something like Sphere or Event Horizon, I liked both those movies but they aren't on Alien's level. And that shower scene? the greatest horror cliche in history has finally made it into the Alien series huh?

Can anyone Who read the spoilers tell me how the Aliens are portrayed in this movie? because the Alien in the shower reminded me more of the AVPR aliens than the original Giger beast. Please don't tell me the aliens are expendable canon fodder in this movie.
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 25, 2016, 06:18:06 AM
Aw man was that Jussie Smollett in the shower.
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 06:21:40 AM
I'm seeing a lot of people saying they think it looks too much like Prometheus. It's a sequel to Prometheus so that makes sense. And they didn't give away any of the story which is probably why it feels generic. They literally just threw some exposition shots at us with a xenomorph tease here and there. I'm much happier with a tease than a trailer that gives away the entire story with all the money shots included. Personally, I'm not exactly thrilled the xenomorph is in this film, but I'm willing to give it a shot since I loved Prometheus. Hell, the trailer didn't even give us one line of dialogue from Fassbender. The good stuff is in the movie! This is great news.
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Post by: AsapJockey on Dec 25, 2016, 06:22:08 AM
I liked that it didnt show much, but that shower scene was corny im just gonna say it.
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Post by: MajorB on Dec 25, 2016, 06:22:31 AM
I just realized that they advertise this website (http://www.alienmovies.com/) at the very end of the trailer. Really cool interface- you can actually talk to MUTHUR! Also, the "Alien Universe" branding is interesting- cinematic universe confirmed?
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Post by: x-M-x on Dec 25, 2016, 06:23:05 AM
Thinking SHAW is morphed or half dead? Kinda like Dallas in Alien 1.


Thoughts?

And those *DOG TAGS* have to be shaws.... c'mon
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Post by: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 06:24:34 AM
Loved trailer, Colors especially <3
So it's mean infection moves from Air ?  ???

(https://media.giphy.com/media/26FLiRAKfhxlVDLIA/source.gif)
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Post by: x-M-x on Dec 25, 2016, 06:25:43 AM
Quote from: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 06:24:34 AM
Loved trailer, Colors especially <3
So it's mean infection moves from Air ?  ???

https://media.giphy.com/media/26FLiRAKfhxlVDLIA/source.gif

Kinda like what actually happens... when mold/spores get inside you.. you're SICK AS A DOG!

This must be the home world of the *Black Goo*


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Post by: rustyredraccoon on Dec 25, 2016, 06:27:14 AM
Can't be any worse than Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection, right?
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:27:24 AM
Quote from: x-M-x on Dec 25, 2016, 06:25:43 AM
Quote from: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 06:24:34 AM
Loved trailer, Colors especially <3
So it's mean infection moves from Air ?  ???

https://media.giphy.com/media/26FLiRAKfhxlVDLIA/source.gif

Kinda like what actually happens... when mold/spores get inside you.. you're SICK AS A DOG!

This must be the home world of the *Black Goo*




The spores are to do with the Neomorphs, the new Alien-like creatures: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/10/24/neomorphs-alien-covenants-new-aliens/
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Post by: DaddyYautja on Dec 25, 2016, 06:29:14 AM
Quote from: monkeylove on Dec 25, 2016, 06:06:04 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 25, 2016, 05:46:33 AM
Hmmmm, the trailer makes it seem like they just remade Alien.

They dropped in a different location but the series of events are almost the same.

A group of people land on a planet with a Jock ship, explore it, and get infected.

And if this group knows what they are looking for... why would they walk in unprotected? The planet having a breathable atmosphere is not an excuse. That scene of being infected by the spore is the same silliness we saw in Prometheus from people that should know better.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the cowboy hat, the actress who reminds me of Ripley, etc.

And to elaborate a bit further, all alien movies basically follow the same series of events but atmosphere different enough in each movie that you dont care about it.

A military mission, trapped in a penal colony, sneaking into a test facility.

This one looks a lot like a group of space truckers sent to explore some crashed ship.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:32:36 AM
Quote from: AsapJockey on Dec 25, 2016, 06:22:08 AM
I liked that it didnt show much, but that shower scene was corny im just gonna say it.

The trailer editing wont help that. Remember, there likely to be far more to it than that but yeah, it is a bit of a trope. I like that there's not a lot of story specifics in this. Not much in the way of creature either - I'd been expecting them to make a bigger deal of the Alien but I'm happy with that.

Gutted they showed the death scenes they did though. Loved the Bowie cover, thought it worked really well.
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Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 06:34:47 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:32:36 AM
Quote from: AsapJockey on Dec 25, 2016, 06:22:08 AM
I liked that it didnt show much, but that shower scene was corny im just gonna say it.

The trailer editing wont help that. Remember, there likely to be far more to it than that but yeah, it is a bit of a trope. I like that there's not a lot of story specifics in this. Not much in the way of creature either - I'd been expecting them to make a bigger deal of the Alien but I'm happy with that.

Gutted they showed the death scenes they did though. Loved the Bowie cover, thought it worked really well.

Whether there's more to it or not doesn't change the fact that's a gratuitous shower scene
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 06:37:17 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:16:19 AM
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:43 AM
So did anyone spot Weyland?

I'm pretty sure this silhouette is Weyland.

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Yep! Looks like the footage we described when we broke the Weyland news.
Yea but Weyland was a very old man in Prometheus, there he looks to be no worse than 40 from behind. I'm thinking it's Walter sitting and David standing. Then again it could be Weyland I suppose. :laugh:

He's not supposed to be old there.

Here, refresh your memory (spoilers) http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/10/29/avpgalaxy-exclusive-guy-pearce-returns-alien-covenant/
Yes and it doesn't add up unless David is a lot older than most of us thought he was in Prometheus. Prometheus is what, set 10 years before Covenant and no one on the ship appeared to have ever seen the "David" production model. Of course perhaps it was a work in progress that took decades. The Scene does make sense as the flashback scene we read about though.

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Quote from: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 06:24:34 AM
Loved trailer, Colors especially <3
So it's mean infection moves from Air ?  ???

https://media.giphy.com/media/26FLiRAKfhxlVDLIA/source.gif

Kinda like what actually happens... when mold/spores get inside you.. you're SICK AS A DOG!

This must be the home world of the *Black Goo*



Indeed. My monies on it being the planet the sacrificial engineer created in the beginning of Prometheus.
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Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 25, 2016, 06:38:43 AM
I'm seriously bummed out by how cheap/Earthlike what we are seeing of the planet looks like.

So much for any potential hope of anything even vaguely Giger-esque in terms of landscape. Even Prometheus' stone architecture felt closer to the look of Alien than what we're seeing here.
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Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 06:38:57 AM
QuoteIndeed. My monies on it being the planet the sacrificial engineer created in the beginning of Prometheus.

I thought that was implied to be Earth
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Post by: gabgrave on Dec 25, 2016, 06:39:23 AM
Where there is an egg and the alien corridors we saw before, might there be a Queen?
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 25, 2016, 06:42:49 AM
Pretty cool.  Already I can see nice cinematography.  The color palette is fairly similar to Prometheus.

Looks like somebody is getting the Lambert treatment with that alien tail...
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Post by: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 06:45:33 AM
And this "U" ship Its seams like just landed , look at this broken trees, These are possible David and Shaw  :o

(https://media.giphy.com/media/26FLfln1XFAZLgPVm/source.gif) 
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Post by: Jet Jaguar on Dec 25, 2016, 06:47:55 AM
If that crashed derelict is the same one that David & Shaw were flying then I think that planet got to be the engineer's homeworld. Few months back, there were production set photos too showing Engineer's structures and their charred bodies etc.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:48:01 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 06:37:17 AM
Yes and it doesn't add up unless David is a lot older than most of us thought he was in Prometheus. Prometheus is what, set 10 years before Covenant and no one on the ship appeared to have ever seen the "David" production model. Of course perhaps it was a work in progress that took decades. The Scene does make sense as the flashback scene we read about though.

The crew seemed nonplussed about him. Only Shaw and Holloway seemed to really take any note.
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Post by: Spacesuits on Dec 25, 2016, 06:48:45 AM
Looks like they still haven't learned to keep their spacesuits on.  ???  ???
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Post by: Mr. Forest on Dec 25, 2016, 06:49:29 AM
These next five months are going to be fun. Something I loved about Prometheus was the anticipation and theories.  I hope to relive that experience again with this jewelry movie.

Oh, and of course, the trailer was great. The shower scene may be generic for horror/trailers, but it was terrifying to me.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 06:51:27 AM
Sounds like the fella get backbursted was Benjamin Rigby.

https://twitter.com/JohnSantFilms/status/812894479367761920
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Post by: NickisSmart on Dec 25, 2016, 06:52:01 AM
Loved it. Uploading my impressions shortly.
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 25, 2016, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 25, 2016, 05:56:59 AM
The dogtags are clearly from someone, though whether that someone is a transmogrified Shaw is really anyone's guess.

Eh, serviceable. Moody, though nothing special, IMO. Not at all on the level of that famous 'Prometheus' one, but then, few things really could be.

There was something a bit artificial-looking and unconvincing about the Alien's face. Not sure why.

At least it had more promise than the lazy poster design. Guess we now know why there were two pools of blood in that set picture, eh? My guess is that the reason the other woman can't be let out is that both her and the other guy are believed to be infected.

Starting to have problems with Ridley Scott's infatuation with supposed professionals not wearing any protective suits... It's not like they couldn't have also given the pods serrated thorns to tear through the suit material and infect people that way. It's way too much like 'Star Trek' to have professionals not care about native bacteria/parasites/whatever, which could literally be anywhere in an atmosphere and for which they would potentially have no cure.

I mean, I get that, thematically, he's probably trying to push an underlying psychological theme of sacrificial vulnerability and 'shedding one's skin', but it still feels as superficial as it did the last time.

So, yes, interesting, but it hasn't given me a reason to raise my expectations. Still feels a little too close to 'Prometheus' for that. Nice to hear some of the original sound effects, however. :)

Well said.  Going open helmet commando on a planet teeming with alien life is beyond stupid.  I wonder how they'll justify it.
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Post by: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 07:00:37 AM
First I was excited, then i watched it again. 

I hate the music in the trailer, I honestly think it's garbage, doesn't fit and i find it distracts from the trailer overall.  I know it won't be in the movie (or hopefully used again), but bad choice of trailer music always sullies my experience  (I tend to be hyper critical of music choices i find ill-fitting) and makes me question seeing the movie in a theatre (I'll still go see it).

The Shower scene looks exactly as cheap and tacky as I thought it would.  Thanks for that AvP:R-esque moment in there.  That's just great.

Honestly I want to be excited.  I'm not, and will echo the "it looks like a cheap 90's horror movie".  I am comparing my reaction to the Prometheus trailer, and while that film wasn't as good as it could easily have been the trailer was filled with splendor and wonder.  It showed neat parts of the culture and took you further into the Alien universe (also the music cues in that trailer and the music itself f**king rules).  This looks like a random Dark Horse comic brought to life.

I watched it a third time with the sound off.  If I didn't know this was an Alien movie, I'd have a hard time believing it took place in that universe.  It looks like a really well shot (the colour palette is great) stock horror movie.

The Prometheus trailer lived and even exceeded the hype surrounding that movie, this trailer has brought my excitement down a few notches (beyond maybe the backburster part).

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Post by: Lonely Universe on Dec 25, 2016, 07:01:18 AM
I watched it three times. I like it.
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Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 25, 2016, 05:46:33 AM
Hmmmm, the trailer makes it seem like they just remade Alien.

They dropped in a different location but the series of events are almost the same.

A group of people land on a planet with a Jock ship, explore it, and get infected.

And if this group knows what they are looking for... why would they walk in unprotected? The planet having a breathable atmosphere is not an excuse. That scene of being infected by the spore is the same silliness we saw in Prometheus from people that should know better.

Makes Prometheus completely redundant. If there is nothing revealed about the engineer culture. So what happened to Shaw......
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Post by: NickisSmart on Dec 25, 2016, 07:02:56 AM
So far, this looks like a well-made horror film. People are complaining about that, but I think it's great.
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Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 07:05:09 AM
Quote from: NickisSmart on Dec 25, 2016, 07:02:56 AM
So far, this looks like a well-made horror film. People are complaining about that, but I think it's great.

Why would people be complaining about it being well-made?
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Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:09:03 AM
It's al about the stayin power!!

Will people still talk about this 20 years from now?

Guess we will  have to wait and see.

If it does satisfy the fans I'll be happy. 
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Post by: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 07:10:05 AM


Trailer Music - Aurora - Nature Boy
We ware thinking it was David Bowie's song.

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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:28 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
Makes Prometheus completely redundant. If there is nothing revealed about the engineer culture. So what happened to Shaw......

Remember there's another 2 films after this.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:51 AM
the amount of "butthurt" is astronomical... i think it looks KILLER! gonna be a LONG 5 months!!! its really going to feel longer than the past 4 1/2 years.

btw, anyone bitching about the music used in the trailer, it would seem you have a hard time interpreting larger pictures of what music is used to illustrate... the lyrics are being used to reference David, and they work extremely well in doing so! not trying to sound insulting, but thus far anyone whos complained about the song really doesnt seem to be catching the underlying message.

ooooooooooooooooo boy! LETS DO THIS!!!
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Post by: NickisSmart on Dec 25, 2016, 07:16:55 AM
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 07:05:09 AM

Why would people be complaining about it being well-made?

No, that it's a horror film with basic, horror tropes. It's not "grand" enough, I guess. Looks f**king baller to me.
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Post by: frenchfries on Dec 25, 2016, 07:16:59 AM
Quote from: DorkiDori on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:51 AM
the amount of "butthurt" is astronomical... i think it looks KILLER! gonna be a LONG 5 months!!! its really going to feel longer than the past 4 1/2 years.

btw, anyone bitching about the music used in the trailer, it would seem you have a hard time interpreting larger pictures of what music is used to illustrate... the lyrics are being used to reference David, and they work extremely well in doing so! not trying to sound insulting, but thus far anyone whos complained about the song really doesnt seem to be catching the underlying message.

ooooooooooooooooo boy! LETS DO THIS!!!
thank you!
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Post by: NickisSmart on Dec 25, 2016, 07:17:37 AM
The music didn't grab me, but it didn't bother me, either. I was too busy looking at all the lovely imagery.
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Post by: Dick on Dec 25, 2016, 07:18:29 AM
Yeees, nice, how i have missed the alien
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Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:19:24 AM
Yes Corporal.

I have to say I am very interested to see it . I hope it works out.
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Post by: sugarhigh on Dec 25, 2016, 07:23:36 AM
Wow, this looks terrible. I actually believed Scott would try to redeem himself after the shit show that was Prometheus. Looks like a bad, young adults in space slasher film. I wish he would have left the Alien connection out of these two movies and come up with something else. This literally looks like an AVP sequel or something, so bad, ugh.......
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Post by: John Doe on Dec 25, 2016, 07:26:38 AM
I had to see it 3 times to start loving it.

I think it looks more like Prometheus than Alien, and that´s the first thing that hit the fans.

But i love that they continue with the Prometheus feel.

Other thing that i didn´t like it it´s the CGI, too much.

I love Danny McBride moment of sad and then giving the weapon to Daniels. Epic characters, like Parker and Ripley.

David 8 on the shadows looks amazing waiting for the facehugger.

The trailer sells horror and too many blood for the actual audience. In some way looks like an actual horror movie like Evil Dead.

But i love it, it look fresh in some ways, don´t spoil the main villain, keep secret and the visual looks outstanding.

Jed Kurzel on the OST, he worked with Justin Kurzel on Macbeth and Assassins Creed.
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Post by: NickisSmart on Dec 25, 2016, 07:31:40 AM
Quote from: sugarhigh on Dec 25, 2016, 07:23:36 AM
Wow, this looks terrible. I actually believed Scott would try to redeem himself after the shit show that was Prometheus. Looks like a bad, young adults in space slasher film. I wish he would have left the Alien connection out of these two movies and come up with something else. This literally looks like an AVP sequel or something, so bad, ugh.......

I'm not sure where you're getting that "young adults in space" vibe. The shower scene? That's like 5 seconds of the trailer...
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Post by: Truds on Dec 25, 2016, 07:32:32 AM
I just hope it has the length, theres a lot of ground to cover judging by the trailer
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Post by: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 07:33:59 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlQZKUgKf4aeXf2/source.gif)

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Post by: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 07:34:56 AM
Quote from: DorkiDori on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:51 AM
the amount of "butthurt" is astronomical... i think it looks KILLER! gonna be a LONG 5 months!!! its really going to feel longer than the past 4 1/2 years.

btw, anyone bitching about the music used in the trailer, it would seem you have a hard time interpreting larger pictures of what music is used to illustrate... the lyrics are being used to reference David, and they work extremely well in doing so! not trying to sound insulting, but thus far anyone whos complained about the song really doesnt seem to be catching the underlying message.

ooooooooooooooooo boy! LETS DO THIS!!!

Then make it sound in context with the world.  Lyrically if it fits great, but it doesn't musically fit with the imagery in my mind.  I find the music distracting and working against the trailer.  I dislike how it sounds, and nothing about they lyrics fitting the overall story of David will make me like the arrangement/instrument choice/production of the track.  It actually really reminded me of the theme from "End of Evangelion", another track I am not fond of.

I also hate most lyrical music and in general shy away from trailer that feature musically selections with words.

Lastly, I'm still not completely sold on having David be the focus of all these movies. 

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Post by: Kimo on Dec 25, 2016, 07:37:42 AM
Couple of thoughts.

About the back burster?
This Scene looks tense I can't wait to see what burst from his back and what attacks that woman. is it going to be something new, or a regular xeno type? who's to say that the chest burster always has to burst from the host front? It could just rip it's way out from any direction if it wanted to? Ive tried to keep away from mayjor spoilers but I'm getting the impression that David's experiments ain't quite 100% perfected that's why we are seeing strange things like back bursters and deadly spores and probably differnt xeno types. Even the egg looks a little differnt from the 70's alien egg in this trailer. Same with the alien on the poster it looks almost like H.R Giger's alien however it just seems to be missing its original xeno look by a tiny bit.

The Shower attack.
Personally I don't feel that the shower scene looks out of place in this trailer. If you go back to "Alien" Ridley Scott had the idea that sex was more acceptable between the crew members, like friends with benefits type of deal. This was also hinted in Prometheus with Vickers and the captain. I think Ridley is just making it more obvious in this film with that shower scene.

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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 07:39:34 AM
They're all couples. They're bound to be getting it on. I think it's more the cliched horror trope that people dislike about it.
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Post by: Richman678 on Dec 25, 2016, 07:42:38 AM
I don't care for the spores in the air infecting people with an Alien.

The rest looks great.
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Post by: NickisSmart on Dec 25, 2016, 07:43:42 AM
Sex is something Scott is very open about. Just watch the Counselor.
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Post by: Darkness on Dec 25, 2016, 07:44:09 AM
Kinda liked the trailer. Nice seeing Facehuggers and Aliens back on the big screen without all the Prometheus garbage. The shot of the Jockey craft in the forest was nice - dark atmosphere. The shower scene isn't as bad as I thought it would be. I thought the music was completely wrong for trailer though and was nowhere near as good as what the first Prometheus trailer was.
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Post by: Sabres21768 on Dec 25, 2016, 07:44:28 AM
Can anyone make gifs of all the different xeno scenes?
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Post by: XenoVC on Dec 25, 2016, 07:45:42 AM
This entire movie is a damn enigma. My entire question is "what's the balance going to be" at this point.  I want to delve deeper into the Engineer mythology, and their intentions. The wonder and questions about the tie-ins to the creation of the human race at large which I think could still be, or not be a misstep. Are they catering to this at all, yet going full in on a style of movie that never had a place for any of that?  I don't want it swept under the rug.

We know well that's not the case, yet we kind of don't. Prometheus vibe is heavy with all of the totally new stuff like the Spores, and backbursting. In other places, Alien elements are back in full force;  even that egg had an obvious weirdness to it, yet had a pretty classic looking Facehugger.

This reaction is genuine excitement and drooling for the answers, yet cautious and wanting to poke it with a stick at the same time.

Holy gratuitous @ the end of the trailer, not knowing full presentation and context, that scene has the potential to be as cringeworthy-not good facepalm in the theater as the Predalien bursters.
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Post by: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 07:57:17 AM
That trailer just feels really bland. It's like a dtv Alien ripoff with a budget. That shower scene looks like it belongs in AvPR and the back burster isn't any better.
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 25, 2016, 08:01:08 AM
I think naysayers should probably wait for the film itself before writing it off. Sure, there's a bunch of tropes, but most films rely on tropes right (Alien and Aliens have plenty... "here kitty kitty")... it ain't nesersarily a bad thing.

What is obvious is that Covenant has lush production values, it looks gorgeous, and clearly there seems to be more actual 'Alien' iconography in this than there was in Prometheus e.g. egg, facehugger, xeno, dark spacecraft corridors etc. etc. It all looks pretty good to me so far. Of course the films success (for me anyway) will largely depend on an engaging story/characters and a return to a sense of suspense/horror last seen in Alien/Aliens.... Ridley is probably more able to provide that than others.
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 08:01:50 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 07:39:34 AM
They're all couples. They're bound to be getting it on. I think it's more the cliched horror trope that people dislike about it.
A trope, no matter how over used will be new to someone and I mean alien is all about sexual reproduction more than anything.

In any case I loved the trailer. The alien hand in the shower scene was huge though...
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Post by: Ropley on Dec 25, 2016, 08:03:03 AM
The trialer is awesome it is everything I wanted and more the only issue I have is a team of professionals going out with out any head gear but somebody already mentioned that so I'm not alone on that.

The folks complaining about This film looking like an Alien Rehash sound like people complaining about dinosaurs going on a rampage in a Jurrasic Park movie, that is what you are going to get.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 08:03:17 AM
Yeah, I watched it three times and with each viewing I felt more underwhelmed by it. I will admit I did get excited when the egg opened. Over all, not a good start for me.
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Post by: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 08:04:08 AM
For the record, not writing off the film. Just think it's a bad trailer.
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Post by: Ropley on Dec 25, 2016, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 08:03:17 AM
Yeah, I watched it three times and with each viewing I felt more underwhelmed by it.I will admit I did get excited when the egg opened. Over all, not a good start for me. Maybe I'm getting old and I"m just tired of this franchise.

What do you want then that is what is going happen in an Alien movie.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 08:06:36 AM
Quote from: Ropley on Dec 25, 2016, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 08:03:17 AM
Yeah, I watched it three times and with each viewing I felt more underwhelmed by it.I will admit I did get excited when the egg opened. Over all, not a good start for me. Maybe I'm getting old and I"m just tired of this franchise.

What do you want then that is what is going happen in an Alien movie.

I think Sil is right. It's just bad trailer in my opinion.
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 08:09:58 AM
Does the shower scene really bother people that much? If there is an alien covertly maneuvering around a spaceship it makes sense that it would pick up on the sound of high pressure water in the pipes. Hell the original alien was moving around in a similar fashion around the underground ducts. I'll say it again, I'm disappointed the xenomorph is even in this film, but I see how Fox would make it a condition for Scott to put it in since ultimately they need to sell tickets, but I feel like there is literally nothing he could of done that would of pleased us all. I'm excited to see the story and to see what David has been up to. That's the real draw of the movie for me. The characters, the motivations, and the existential stuff. I guess I'm approaching this as a Prometheus sequel more than an Alien prequel. Either way, I'm excited and none of the footage is offputting to me. They showed us nothing. No story. No Fassbender dialogue. All the good stuff is waiting for us in the theaters ( providing they don't spoil it all with the next trailer ). Maybe it's good that the reactions are lukewarm. We can hopefully see the money shots in the theatre like they should be.
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Post by: John Doe on Dec 25, 2016, 08:12:17 AM
Darth David destroying the ship?:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb74%2FKapital21%2FE8MfdsgA2i_zpsvfcmsk5z.jpg&hash=005c75edf1c3c9f3b29232438d55b807d9b1ebea)
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Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 08:13:26 AM
Paglen and Green is credited for the story and Logan for the script .

Where is is avggalaxy.net  in the end credits?
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Post by: Ropley on Dec 25, 2016, 08:15:18 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 08:09:58 AM
Does the shower scene really bother people that much? If there is an alien covertly maneuvering around a spaceship it makes sense that it would pick up on the sound of high pressure water in the pipes. Hell the original alien was moving around in a similar fashion around the underground ducts. I'll say it again, I'm disappointed the xenomorph is even in this film, but I see how Fox would make it a condition for Scott to put it in since ultimately they need to sell tickets, but I feel like there is literally  nothing he could of done that would of pleased us all. I'm excited to see the story and to see what David has been up to. That's the real draw of the movie for me. The characters, the motivations, and the existential stuff. I guess I'm approaching this as a Prometheus sequel more than an Alien prequel. Either way, I'm excited and none of the footage is offputting to me. They showed us nothing. No story. No Fassbender dialogue. All the good stuff is waiting for us in the theaters ( providing they don't spoil it all with the next trailer ). Maybe it's good that the reactions are lukewarm. We can hopefully see the money shots in the theatre like they should be.

I'm not bothered by it sex is a major theme in the Alien movies.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 25, 2016, 08:15:31 AM
i get a sneaky feeling judging from the xenos hand shown in the trailer that it will look quite different than what were use to... the hand looks very gangly and long, almost like the queens hands.
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Post by: Kimo on Dec 25, 2016, 08:17:55 AM
Personally I did like this trailer mainly because of the egg/alien being revealed.. but I have to admit that it felt like the trailers only purpose was to force the R rating down our throats. Rather then give us something more cryptic to sink our teeth in to.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 08:18:47 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=357

Tons of screen captures for you all.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 08:19:41 AM
I thought the idea of a shower scene would've been cool, but after seeing it not so much. I didn't hate it, but it feels like something out of those Corman B movies like Forbidden World or Galaxy of Terror.
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Post by: frenchfries on Dec 25, 2016, 08:20:34 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 08:18:47 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=357

Tons of screen captures for you all.
thank you! now this is what iv been waiting for.
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Post by: Stolen on Dec 25, 2016, 08:24:13 AM
Visually, it looks incredible. New Zealand is beautiful, the dark image is beautiful.

It's a shame that we have no info on the story, I hope it's not just a slasher movie.

But yes, it sounds pretty terrifying, and we see not much in the trailer! So can't wait ! f**king can't wait!
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Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 25, 2016, 08:26:41 AM
Liked the back burster scene , music was wrong should have used the high pitch trailer music from Alien and Aliens teasers. Not sure about the shower scene just feels like we seen it before.
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Post by: Stolen on Dec 25, 2016, 08:29:33 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 08:18:47 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=357

Tons of screen captures for you all.

Thanks Hicks!

Love the dark tone pictorial in this.
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Post by: Gazz on Dec 25, 2016, 08:29:35 AM
Jed Kurzel is our new composer and that's a great choice!
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 08:31:49 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 25, 2016, 08:29:35 AM
Jed Kurzel is our new composer and that's a great choice!

#2 on my current list of things to do.
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Post by: Novak 1334 on Dec 25, 2016, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 08:31:49 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 25, 2016, 08:29:35 AM
Jed Kurzel is our new composer and that's a great choice!

#2 on my current list of things to do.

You called it.  Christmas Day!

The trailer was great
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Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 08:35:43 AM
Wasn't there a 2nd trailer?
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 08:39:27 AM
Thanks for the images Hicks. The little neomorph looks adorable. Wonder if he's trainable.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 25, 2016, 08:41:38 AM
Heaven, I'm in heaven, and my heart beats so that I can hardly speak!!  :o
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Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 25, 2016, 08:42:14 AM
As someone who wasn't really wanting Alien: Covenant after being burned by Prometheus, I still think part of me, deep down, wanted to be amazed by this trailer.  But it just didn't strike any chord with me.  And I'm a guy who falls into trailer hype pretty easily (all issues with final product aside, Prometheus still has one of my absolute favorite teasers of all time, and a pretty good second trailer that I have a very fond memory of, watching it premiere live with you guys)

Obviously there's tremendous potential for this to be good if not great, but so far I'm not really feeling it.   :-\
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Post by: Stolen on Dec 25, 2016, 08:43:46 AM
I looked again with maximum sound into the helmet!

It's terrifying and desperate! You saw the person burning in the explosion of the ship? My god ...
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Post by: AL on Dec 25, 2016, 08:45:15 AM
 we managed to see the teaser  just  after the Christmas dinner.
Not finished the trailer the first thing I hear is ... I did not like the music! I was more focused on the images I think... Now reading the comments, I see that it is a collective feeling, the disgust for the music.
Tomorrow I will see the trailer in more detail and without interruptions.

@Corporal, thanks for the screenshots & Merry Christmas :)
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 08:51:48 AM
Thank the boss man for the grabs. I just sorted through them.  :)
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 08:53:22 AM
Great trailer, but then Prometheus had a great trailer.

I hope this is better than that, I really do.
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Post by: Protozoid on Dec 25, 2016, 08:57:10 AM
I felt like one of the few people who adored Prometheus and was genuinely excited for the story to continue. But my enthusiasm is slowly draining the more I see and read about this film. Perhaps they shouldn't have started with this shameless red-band trailer, which over-sells the horror but does little else. It reminded me of AvP: Requiem in the worst possible way. Has the advertising for this movie been really mediocre, or is the film itself going to be a dud? Where are all of the iconic images like the ones Prometheus had? Fresh images? Maybe the special effects aren't finished and the next trailer will be more epic and awesome? I understand why so many people bring up Alien knockoffs from Galaxy of Terror to Event Horizon. I can enjoy those movies, but I think Prometheus was several levels of sophistication above those films, and I'm disappointed beyond words that this trailer looks so... dumb.
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Post by: Magegg on Dec 25, 2016, 09:03:25 AM
To be fair, this looks like the most generic Alien movie so far, and yeah, I saw it coming. It's pretty much a mishmash of Alien and Aliens with just a little and vague dash of Prometheus. They're now even recurring to horror cliches like the monster killing a horny couple. Hope this is a little more than sees the eye, but still a shame they cancelled Blomkamp's to favor this regurgitated stuff.
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:04:51 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 08:53:22 AM
Great trailer, but then Prometheus had a great trailer.

I hope this is better than that, I really do.
Well if you liked the trailer then I feel safer already.

@Hicks: It just dawned on me, the entire TED speech. Weyland probably already created David back then but had to keep him a secert until Prometheus. So yem that is definitely David and Weyland. Probably where he tells David about his ambitions and delusions of immorality.
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Post by: XenoVC on Dec 25, 2016, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 08:04:08 AM
For the record, not writing off the film. Just think it's a bad trailer.

Agreed, after seeing it, I'm realizing I just wanted probably no more than that Facebook Egg preview.

The whole package as is has an unexpected schlocky feel that could set the tone for the entire campaign.
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Post by: oberonqa on Dec 25, 2016, 09:09:03 AM
I definitely liked this trailer.  No dancing around the edges of "It's got the DNA of Alien, but it's not quite Alien".  It's exactly what I wanted Prometheus to be.... a proper Alien movie.  It's gonna be an agonizing wait until May 17th.... **lol**
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 25, 2016, 09:11:44 AM
Is it just me or is that facehugger that attacks Crudup huge?
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Post by: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 09:13:38 AM
Yeah, it's huge. Like the original size in the concepts for Alien.
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Post by: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 09:14:46 AM
Quote from: John Doe on Dec 25, 2016, 08:12:17 AM
Darth David destroying the ship?:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/Kapital21/E8MfdsgA2i_zpsvfcmsk5z.jpg

for sure !
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:14:58 AM
The egg is bigger too, makes sense.
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Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 25, 2016, 09:15:13 AM
Maybe it's meant to be engineer sized.
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Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 25, 2016, 09:15:54 AM
The music isn't a great choice. But thats just the music for the trailer. Hardly anything to judge the film by.
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Post by: Anon73 on Dec 25, 2016, 09:16:42 AM
I legit hope this movie is super successful, breathing new life into the Alien film franchise and relaunching the film series.

Because with every new movie the fandom would become more and more miserable.
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Post by: Xenorgue on Dec 25, 2016, 09:18:47 AM
Incredible trailer !!!


It's crazy how people are already beginning to criticize the alien when we saw it only 1s, in the dark, blurred behind a window.  :D


And the quick conclusions on the avpr ... 1 shower scene of 3s and hop everyone concludes that the movie is avpr like. We do not know anything about the context of this scene. Stop already making conflusions.
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Post by: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 09:21:27 AM
I have some theory's about David and shaw, i think this is exactly the same ship that  David and shaw leave LV-223
Look at this broken trees ?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/26FLfln1XFAZLgPVm/source.gif)
After 10 years Covenant ship goes exactly to that planet
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlQZKUgKf4aeXf2/source.gif)
and exactly that place.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtrvtjEWxXiEBI4/source.gif)
for sure this is
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vRjr8a6pCiZKUVO/source.gif)
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Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 25, 2016, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 08:39:27 AM
Thanks for the images Hicks. The little neomorph looks adorable. Wonder if he's trainable.
where's the neomorph?
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Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 25, 2016, 09:24:53 AM
I believe that will be part of the plot that they're sent in, probably unknowingly, to find David and Shaw.

4th letter from the start, David
vs
4th letter from the end, Walter

Whoever wins, we lose.
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:25:00 AM
I don't know why people are moaning about the trailer music. It's moody, depressing and very sci-fi noir if that is even a thing.

Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 25, 2016, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 08:39:27 AM
Thanks for the images Hicks. The little neomorph looks adorable. Wonder if he's trainable.
where's the neomorph?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F35bd0fr.jpg&hash=a9557c87dffaed6e33ea5848453a7aa1b146ed04)
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Post by: XenoVC on Dec 25, 2016, 09:27:11 AM
Quote from: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 09:21:27 AM
I have some theory's about David and shaw, i think this is exactly the same ship that  David and shaw leave LV-223
Look at this broken trees ?
https://media.giphy.com/media/26FLfln1XFAZLgPVm/source.gif
After 10 years Covenant ship goes exactly to that planet
http://im2.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif.com-f3d77902a0.gif
and exactly that place.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtrvtjEWxXiEBI4/source.gif
for sure this is
https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vRjr8a6pCiZKUVO/source.gif

I wonder if David, or Shaw appear at all chronologically by this point. Going along with the scenic exposition of the Paradise environment, there could be a great surprise with all sorts of teases of something onboard when they enter the Juggernaut.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 25, 2016, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 25, 2016, 08:39:27 AM
Thanks for the images Hicks. The little neomorph looks adorable. Wonder if he's trainable.
where's the neomorph?

Here he is -

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-098.jpg)
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Post by: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 09:29:27 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l4Jziq593CXivvXUc/source.gif)

behind it's David or Walter ?
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Post by: Bojo on Dec 25, 2016, 09:29:59 AM
Looked abit generic and the acting hardly convinced.
But I guess R.Scott is in a rock and a hard place.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 25, 2016, 09:30:25 AM
it almost seems like, to me at least, what were being shown in the trailer is just such a small portion of the movie... like pretty much just the shit hitting the fan within the first 30-45 minutes perhaps? obviously from previous posted stills with the burned remains of the engineers on the stairs, there may be A LOT more that happens.

and im very curious if during the egg scene where the facehugger jumps out, if dear ol Fassy is David or Walter in that shot.

also, theres the whole thing with the lab david has built in the photo that leaked... curious how much of that will play into the film.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 09:32:26 AM
Quote from: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 09:29:27 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4Jziq593CXivvXUc/source.gif

behind it's David or Walter ?

It's David. David seems to be wearing a jumpsuit with the Prometheus logo on it.

Right, time to go get a cup of tea and then start on a breakdown of this trailer.
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Post by: Xenoscream on Dec 25, 2016, 09:33:01 AM
OK interesting stuff. I overall like it.

A few notes / ideas.

1. We get to see the white Alien, it's what Daniels is shooting at, if you freeze the frame you can clearly see the little white Alien almost exactly like the Prometheus concept art. It looks to be about 3 feet tall.
2. Not really sold on the whole airborne spores - seems a lot less scary than getting raped by a facehugger.
3. I think the shower scene may actually be 2 people trying to be decontaminated, if you look at the scene the shower seems to be firing from all angles - this would make it a lot less cheesy. i.e. shit we are infected get naked and washed off, and f**k it lets make out because we are probably going to die.
4. Alien's hands are BIG
5. Good to see the facehugger - great spot of David lurking in the background.


All in all I agree the trailer is not the best, but this is an ALIEN movie and that makes me very happy.
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Post by: souNdwAve89 on Dec 25, 2016, 09:34:34 AM
Do we happen to know the time gap between Prometheus and Covenant?
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:36:44 AM
It's supposed to be around 10 years right? Or was that how old Ripley is when we see her inside the Covenant. :P
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Post by: Walter on Dec 25, 2016, 09:38:52 AM
Quote from: souNdwAve89 on Dec 25, 2016, 09:34:34 AM
Do we happen to know the time gap between Prometheus and Covenant?
In Prometheus David and Shaw leave LV-223 in 2094 Year , Covenant story begin in 2104 year after 10 Year from Prometheus...
FYI Ripley should be 11 year old in 2104
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Post by: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 09:40:04 AM
Quote from: Bworko on Dec 25, 2016, 09:18:47 AM



And the quick conclusions on the avpr ... 1 shower scene of 3s and hop everyone concludes that the movie is avpr like. We do not know anything about the context of this scene. Stop already making conflusions.
I said the scene would fit in AvPR, not that the whole film was going to be as bad.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 25, 2016, 09:40:14 AM
im really getting a feeling that A LOT of the elements that werent used from Spaights Alien: Engineers script are being dug up and utilized for this film. something tells me that the Xeno we see in the trailer will be much closer to the "Beluga Alien" found in A:E.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 09:41:39 AM
Yeah, I have the same feeling. It's like Covenant is a rewind and retake of the Alien prequel using elements from Spaihts script.
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Post by: Protozoid on Dec 25, 2016, 09:45:33 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 09:41:39 AM
Yeah, I have the same feeling. It's like Covenant is a rewind and retake of the Alien prequel using elements from Spaihts script.
Including the story beat where
Spoiler
David tries to get a character impregnated by a facehugger
[close]
. I read Spaihts' script and was glad they didn't film it, actually. It was exactly the kind of unimaginative Alien prequel I was afraid they would make. Oh, dear...
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Post by: XenoVC on Dec 25, 2016, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 09:41:39 AM
Yeah, I have the same feeling. It's like Covenant is a rewind and retake of the Alien prequel using elements from Spaihts script.

If the Spores are actually some type of living organism, it could feel like a take on those ant-aliens. (turns out I actually don't know anything)
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Post by: Xenoscream on Dec 25, 2016, 09:51:01 AM
Also David apears to be wearing an engineer style robe... wonder where he got that from.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 09:53:42 AM
Quote from: Protozoid on Dec 25, 2016, 09:45:33 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 09:41:39 AM
Yeah, I have the same feeling. It's like Covenant is a rewind and retake of the Alien prequel using elements from Spaihts script.
Including the story beat where
Spoiler
David tries to get a character impregnated by a facehugger
[close]
. I read Spaihts' script and was glad they didn't film it, actually. It was exactly the kind of unimaginative Alien prequel I was afraid they would make. Oh, dear...

That scene had real potential to be incredibly disturbing and creepy. Personally, I really like Spaihts' script. It wasn't without flaws (I would have removed the traditional Aliens completely) but I think it was a much better experience than Prometheus.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: DorkiDori on Dec 25, 2016, 09:40:14 AMim really getting a feeling that A LOT of the elements that werent used from Spaights Alien: Engineers script are being dug up and utilized for this film.

Yeah, I feel exactly the same.

I hope we get the sequence where someone is pulled into a tiny pipe, I always found that horrifying.
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Post by: JJdM on Dec 25, 2016, 09:55:09 AM
Great trailer! Not as great as the first Prometheus trailer, but still enough to get excited about.

I'm really glad the continued the eastetic of Prometheus, whiltst incorporating more of the feel of Alien. I can see now why they chose New Zealand. It does the same for this as Iceland did for Prometheus. It looks absolutely gorgeous.

I think the music is great, though that doesn't say anything about the film itself.

I don't like the fact that they're showing us so much casualties allready. I think it should be more mysterious.

But overall, I'm really looking forward to this.   
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Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 25, 2016, 09:57:50 AM
The shower scene is most definitely a sex scene... at first. Those two are clearly embracing, getting it on.

They might have an open shower or something... akin to Starship Troopers. Or else maybe those two got up out of bed and thought... "Hey babe, let's go bang in the decontamination shower." Hopefully with context its not as cheesy as it sounds.

My favorite part so far I think is that its an environment we haven't gotten to see yet in an ALIEN movie.
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Post by: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 10:00:33 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 09:54:19 AM
I hope we get the sequence where someone is pulled into a tiny pipe, I always found that horrifying.
It never looks good on-screen. See Harbinger Down, for example. I know that's not the best film to compare, but honestly, a human being pulled into a tiny pipe always looks comical.
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Post by: Anon73 on Dec 25, 2016, 10:02:17 AM
Slightly off topic but I love how all of a sudden everyone on Reddit and Youtube are HUGE fans of Prometheus and are absolutely affronted that the trailer wasn't two and a half minutes of Shaw and an Engineer having a dance off for the future of humanity while David's disembodied head acts as DJ in the background. Or whatever they were expecting from a movie called ALIEN: Covenant.
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Post by: Protozoid on Dec 25, 2016, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Anon73 on Dec 25, 2016, 10:02:17 AM
Slightly off topic but I love how all of a sudden everyone on Reddit and Youtube are HUGE fans of Prometheus and are absolutely affronted that the trailer wasn't two and a half minutes of Shaw and an Engineer having a dance off for the future of humanity while David's disembodied head acts as DJ in the background. Or whatever they were expecting from a movie called ALIEN: Covenant.
You "love" it? Why?

Prometheus was a unique film, and apparently it will remain so. Alien already had three sequels and two spinoffs. Prometheus was a franchise that never had a chance to spread its wings, and as a story it had much more potential than Alien ever had.

It's like if we got a trailer for a sequel to 2001: A Space Odyssey and the trailer started with a shootout and ended with car chase without ever hinting that they would continue Dave Bowman's story. Yes, people would be offended.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 25, 2016, 10:09:39 AM
Anyone notice Daniels watching the necklace with the tag....is that Shaw's tag? It seems they found this in the derelict??
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Post by: Necronomicon II on Dec 25, 2016, 10:10:13 AM
Those mountain shots, beautiful. Mobius is everywhere, Daniels' head gear in the helmet, fn' great, head gear of the landing crew too, fantastic. McBride looks convincing. Look, the Prometheus trailers cannot be beat, but it's better when the film actually exceeds the trailer, so that remains to be seen. Looks like an unpretentious, beautifully shot slasher in space thus far, with perhaps some Miltonian musings from David.
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 10:15:45 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F2lcwubb.png&hash=bd4dc629a5c1b8f8942eef125acd42b1e5905255)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Fx4fxqo.png&hash=c8c1d121116eb0fcaa25eb0c1c30e4dfc103c195)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Fx2kvtv.png&hash=8f154b2331cf0ecb21351fad1b98cbee61f8f981)
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Post by: Predatorium on Dec 25, 2016, 10:17:11 AM
Katherine's acting at that table scene was awful, poor girl probably got zero direction from Scott. The lighting and that shaky cam didn't feel like alien to me. The non action scenes with David and the planet felt promethesy, the rest just felt like some bland horror movie. I realise now after watching this trailer that the only thing that interests me is Fassbender's character. As someone else said here, if the trailer focused more on the planet, David and his evil plans rather then the gore the trailer would've been better.
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Post by: cliffhanger on Dec 25, 2016, 10:28:29 AM
Rite, so though i'm excited at a levle, i'm also rather disappoint.
I'll sum up my negatives and positives

Negative :

- trailer without suspense, and far from Prometheus 'atmosphere'.
- i dont like the backbuster, just too 'try to shock through hurt'
- i hate the spore idea, like profoundly. it makes no sense. spores that affect the 'species' recieving it in a way - sure. dna degrading, sure. but a could of spores creating a living organism that turns into a backburster? no. no no. it is also just a cheap lame way. The egg thing and facehugger thing is great, it's scary and though 'twisted', it is oddly also rather acceptable as a 'form of nature'. this spore stuff is just silly.
- the end scene with the tail between the legs is just no. not shocking, not cool. avp-r level as mentioned and just corny.
- too much classic alien 'reveal'. i wanted suspense and hinting. not in your face.

the positives

- david looks evil in the background with the egg. just 1 egg. could that be a morphed shaw? disturbing. really disturbing. yet cool. how long has he been standing there?
- the derelict, and it being overgrown with nature.
- the trees. something happened there.
- the appearence of the ship
- the planet indeed is that of the introduction of prometheus, not earth.

i am left with some questions though

Spoiler
- i thought james franco died in cryo, am i mistaken that it's james franco that gets the facehugger?
[close]
- how old is david8 really? that is clearly david8 and a much younger weyland. old weyland was what, 90?!!! must be 40 years at least passed. explain that timescale. doesn't make sense.
- is that view that weyland and david have on the screen actually 'paradise' ?! if it is - how?!

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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 10:34:50 AM
I think Weyland created David decades before the events of Prometheus but hide him from society. It's what his entire TED speech was about if you think about it. Legalizing artificial intelligence.
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Post by: John Doe on Dec 25, 2016, 10:39:26 AM
What i really don´t like it´s that looks like a remake of Alien + Aliens, with the classic end with the woman taken out the Alien from the ship.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Dec 25, 2016, 10:40:20 AM
Honestly, I'm more excited to see Danny McBride in a serious, dramatic role rather than his usual sarcastic self, funny as he may be.
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Post by: Novak 1334 on Dec 25, 2016, 10:57:38 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 25, 2016, 10:40:20 AM
Honestly, I'm more excited to see Danny McBride in a serious, dramatic role rather than his usual sarcastic self, funny as he may be.

There's one moment in the trailer, a close up of McBride, he really sells the hurt and the worry on his face
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Post by: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 11:07:47 AM
Juggernaut crashed on the planet, I wonder how David released that black goo...
Other than that, pretty interesting, cinematography is top notch as expected,
visual effects are even better. :D I think this will play out fine although its obvious
Ridley and his writing board played this one pretty safe in terms of overall
story. Its pretty clear Covenant is new Prometheus and I think
the next one will really bring us closer to resolution.

Funny, I m very familiar with Justin Kurzel's work.

P.S. I was right about Aurora's cover :) Now I need to prepare for trailer dissection!
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Post by: Aquarius8 on Dec 25, 2016, 11:09:36 AM
I enjoyed the trailer, I guess this is a rescue mission that going to go wrong ala "Aliens".   They must of sent the Covenant to find David and Shaw.   The crashed shipped is probably theirs.  LOL @ the Alien Hitchcock Shower Scene.   Definitely feel like this one will be more action packed but still have that suspense.  I guess David has a "Human" counterpart like Bishop unless the android David somehow gets a new body.   Anyways, the new girl looks like a young Ripley which means Shaw is probably getting written out.  Overall looks like a good sequel, I'm just happy Ridley and co stopped this spin about "Prometheus" not being a "prequel" or "Loosely tied".  The black goo was in this trailer as well.  I just hope the engineers story doesn't end with "Prometheus".    Basically when the box set comes out:


Alien: Prometheus
Alien: Covenant
Alien: Whatever the next ship is called
Alien: Nostromo
Aliens: LV-426
Alien 3: Fiorina 167
Alien Resurrection: Auriga
Alien 5: TBD

:D
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 25, 2016, 11:18:53 AM
i am loving this trailor. .the beginning felt really tense and well acted. .the backburster scene looks like it.s gonna deliver and theirs just so much panic.  .and i actually feel sorry for these people. . .the rest of it everythings awesome imo. .shower scene i did not mind in the least. . But it never bothered me when i first heard about it either. . .anyway i am very excited. .is the trailor better than the first teaser for prometheus. . No nothing could top the music in that trailor. . But then once u actually saw the full movie. . Those trailors gave away too much. .and the music is this trailor . . .. i thought it was great too. .just not quite as effective as the music used in the prometheus trailor. .
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 11:23:06 AM
Quote from: Guts on Dec 25, 2016, 05:19:54 AM
Dat Ending part xD


im glad they are spoiling death scenes..... but why? i know already who r the 3 people who will die for sure

and yes that was corny as F. AVP-R level indeed and why am i feeling it wont be the level on the Clemens scene. now that was built up and scary!

also why would the alien take only the guy? is it a serial killer playing around? wtf

Ridley screwing up again it seems. that scene spoiled the whole tone i guess.


my feelings what this movie will be


classic xenos+more gore+great acting+great shots+great music+great effects in a very very very dumb movie. again



i just wish Ridley would have played with Alien Isolation just to remember whats Alien is all about bc he seemed to forget it
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Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 25, 2016, 11:29:32 AM
I think the trailer has just been crushed under it's own weight of anticipation and expectation. The Alien and Prometheus trailers are two of the most iconic trailers ever. So for that reason alone I'm gonna cut it some slack. It was obviously heavily aimed at those of us displeased that Prometheus wasn't horrifying or Alieny enough. I've watched it about 6 times now and it does grow on you.

One thing that's really important to me is the portrayal of the Alien. I'm hoping the screech during the shower scene is just a placeholder and it's actually a bit more silent, in line with the original.

I think Danny McBride is going to be brilliant. I know we haven't even hear him speak yet, but he wouldn't look amiss off the Nostromo in that cowboy hat!
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Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 25, 2016, 11:31:34 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 25, 2016, 10:40:20 AM
Honestly, I'm more excited to see Danny McBride in a serious, dramatic role rather than his usual sarcastic self, funny as he may be.

Not a fan of the trailer overall but I'm seriously interested to see how he plays this role!
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Post by: jdxmoore on Dec 25, 2016, 11:31:57 AM
I'm liking the trailer overall (apart from the choice of music and slasher feel). I just hope they deliver on the large scope aspect. Despite it's faults I adore Prometheus because of the big questions it asks about creation. 

Where in the trailer are the dog tags suspected of being Shaw's?

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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 11:40:30 AM
I  dont like at all the slo-mo spore scene as well. WTf Matrix in Alien?

*sigh*


Im in it tho bc of Fassbender yet again to see how Walter and David interact or is it there a twist, maybe Walter is evil as well and David was just a curious kid. And for Danny he looks cool and gets a lot of screen time it seems.


And now im curious to see whats the balck goo is capable of and why on that planet xenos breed from the black goo.


And whoopeedooo Alien Homeworld!
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Post by: nanison on Dec 25, 2016, 11:43:09 AM
Ha we"ve been had again, anticipation through the roof and then when the trailer hits it all feels underwhelming.
When the dust settles in 2 or 3 years time I'll find a way to like the film but immediately upon release? Maybe not...
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 11:50:26 AM
I dont have any anticipation. Last time i had towards the 2 AVPs and Promy. So not anymore :D Not even towards Alien 5.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 11:53:43 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Dec 25, 2016, 10:28:29 AM
Rite, so though i'm excited at a levle, i'm also rather disappoint.
I'll sum up my negatives and positives

Negative :

- trailer without suspense, and far from Prometheus 'atmosphere'.
- i dont like the backbuster, just too 'try to shock through hurt'
- i hate the spore idea, like profoundly. it makes no sense. spores that affect the 'species' recieving it in a way - sure. dna degrading, sure. but a could of spores creating a living organism that turns into a backburster? no. no no. it is also just a cheap lame way. The egg thing and facehugger thing is great, it's scary and though 'twisted', it is oddly also rather acceptable as a 'form of nature'. this spore stuff is just silly.
- the end scene with the tail between the legs is just no. not shocking, not cool. avp-r level as mentioned and just corny.
- too much classic alien 'reveal'. i wanted suspense and hinting. not in your face.

the positives

- david looks evil in the background with the egg. just 1 egg. could that be a morphed shaw? disturbing. really disturbing. yet cool. how long has he been standing there?
- the derelict, and it being overgrown with nature.
- the trees. something happened there.
- the appearence of the ship
- the planet indeed is that of the introduction of prometheus, not earth.

i am left with some questions though

Spoiler
- i thought james franco died in cryo, am i mistaken that it's james franco that gets the facehugger?
[close]
- how old is david8 really? that is clearly david8 and a much younger weyland. old weyland was what, 90?!!! must be 40 years at least passed. explain that timescale. doesn't make sense.
- is that view that weyland and david have on the screen actually 'paradise' ?! if it is - how?!

Spoiler tags please. :)
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 11:55:20 AM
Amended. And it's Billy Crudup.
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Post by: shawsbaby on Dec 25, 2016, 11:56:02 AM
Trailer looks great to me. It's very clearly emphasizing a certain facet of the film, not the totality. Based on the leaked spoilers, that's very much the case.

I was surprised they showed Crudup getting facehugged and so much of that intense scene where Seimetz isn't letting Ejogo out of the surgery room. Otherwise, I'm actually impressed by how much of the plot isn't given away in the trailer and how restrained the imagery is.

And I agree, it's so funny that suddenly everyone is Prometheus' biggest fan and is appalled by how "generic" this looks. I certainly don't think anyone would have been happy with a 2 hour 2 person play-in-space of Shaw and David getting to the Engineers home planet (or a film taking place on that planet with living Engineers that, without a $300 million budget, would probably look embarrassing).
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:00:27 PM
Spoiler
Cant believe they r using the ugliest alien design....again...it seems like almost every alien is a dog alien in the past 20 yrs for some reason in movies

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette3.wikia.nocookie.net%2Faliens%2Fimages%2Ff%2Fff%2FXenomorphXX121.png%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20141005001209&hash=3fa46341e25a2639fcf292c9693b805510a5af1d)

over this

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fm.blog.hu%2Fli%2Flisztesmegmondjaatutit%2Fimage%2FA%2520nyolcadik%2520utas%3A%2520a%2520Hal%25C3%25A1l%2Falien1.jpg&hash=33a83ad37e2a2b86b1c7a5fc346aed372fffdd2e)


and this

(https://alienseries.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/487934_10151005874647908_825709990_n.jpg)
[close]


one thing AVP did right
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 12:10:13 PM


Spoiler
If you look closely there's multiple eggs behind that guy that gets facehugged.
[close]
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Post by: bacchus on Dec 25, 2016, 12:12:27 PM
Long time lurker, first time poster after seeing the trailer I thought I'd share my thoughts.

I'm really unimpressed. It just doesn't evoke any of the spirit of Alien or Aliens. If anything, I got an AVP: Requiem vibe - which clearly isn't a good thing. It felt too sanitised, overly saturated, and the CG (Xeno at the end in particular) really didn't work for me at all.

I was hoping (expected) dark, subtlety, poignant, a lot more Giger-esque. What gave us the atmosphere in Alien and Aliens was the dirtyness, the lived-in feel, the raw industrial/grimey feel. Everything in the trailer felt over-thought, over-designed, and over-done. Even the "blood" looked out of place. From the breif glimpse we've had, I felt the production design of Prometheus was superior to Alien Covenant.

Also, things just look so recycled from 20+ years of Hollywood. It doesn't feel like Ridley Scott. Like others have said - the spore floating into the ear....unnecessary all of that depth of field, slow motion etc. Exactly the opposite of what an Alien film should be like. The worst part - that "sizzle reel" in the second half of the trailer, the explosions, the editing, the glimpses of set pieces. They looked awful and cheap.

I didn't get the vibe that this was a polished, Ridley Scott masterpiece on the level of Alien - it felt rushed and cliched.

It felt like what Michael Bay would do if asked to direct an Alien movie.

Really hope the second trailer is darker, and that the CG is more polished in the final film. Really wished they'd use animatronics/puppetry than CG.

Disappointed.


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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 12:15:29 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 12:10:13 PM


Spoiler
If you look closely there's multiple eggs behind that guy that gets facehugged.
[close]
Yea, its the area in the leaked production still.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:22:16 PM
me after the trailer

(https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3663108/game-over-man3.0.jpg)
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Post by: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 12:22:29 PM
I want to add this, Paradise isnt Engineers home planet! ;) Its just a first seeding place.
Thats mine opinion...

P.S. Interesting, thats David in Engineers robe...
he is now in charge! ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/3Df9gDP.jpg)

No matter I already notice some negative vibe, I m pretty certain this
one will be major box office winner. Not completely the movie I wanted to see
but I ll definitely enjoy it very much in theater.
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Post by: OmegaZilla on Dec 25, 2016, 12:24:39 PM
Alien: Convenient

gorgeous sets but this is Scott's standard fare, Prometheus and Martian had gorgeous sets too that's a given

the filmmakers are saying: here's Prometheus as we should have done it before we're doing it better now sorry we forgot the Aliens last time here they are now it's going to be good watch our movie !!

And this begins from the fact the title is ALIEN Covenant and not Prometheus Covenant

this literally looks like the same film as Prometheus, selling itself with the things general audiences wants (cheap scares, Aliens, gore) and was "denied" in the last film in much the same way AvP 2 almost a decade ago sold itself with trailers that promised the R rating with that obvious glowing red R that they later said stood for "Requiem" -- for your brain, something I suspect will be necessary once you watch this new film

there's a nice crescendo of cringe throughout from the Harbinger Down guy to the couple making love in the shower as the creature tail slips in like a voyeur pervert! In the shower!!! I love this, Alien has turned into the countless copycats spawned after its release



I'll go watch Deep Freeze
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Post by: moonpatrol on Dec 25, 2016, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: Predatorium on Dec 25, 2016, 10:17:11 AM
Katherine's acting at that table scene was awful, poor girl probably got zero direction from Scott. The lighting and that shaky cam didn't feel like alien to me. The non action scenes with David and the planet felt promethesy, the rest just felt like some bland horror movie. I realise now after watching this trailer that the only thing that interests me is Fassbender's character. As someone else said here, if the trailer focused more on the planet, David and his evil plans rather then the gore the trailer would've been better.

You are spot on.  Only watched once and her acting (yes I know this is a trailer and .0000098% of the movie) was just terrible.  I cannot believe they let a trailer go out in distro like this.  They could have made this more of a mystery with zero music and just sounds that leave the viewer uncomfortable and anxious....instead, it left me like goo under my shoe, only to be wiped off like many of the standard canned AvP or teens in the creepy cabin.  Just disappointed.
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Post by: bacchus on Dec 25, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
Feels like the lovechild of Prometheus and AVP: Requiem with those slo-motion shots, all that rain and overly satured production design.

I would love nothing more than to see this film in a few months and be blown away. I'm sure it'll impress more than the trailer did.
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Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 25, 2016, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Dec 25, 2016, 12:24:39 PM
Alien: Convenient

gorgeous sets but this is Scott's standard fare, Prometheus and Martian had gorgeous sets too that's a given

the filmmakers are saying: here's Prometheus as we should have done it before we're doing it better now sorry we forgot the Aliens last time here they are now it's going to be good watch our movie !!

And this begins from the fact the title is ALIEN Covenant and not Prometheus Covenant

this literally looks like the same film as Prometheus, selling itself with the things general audiences wants (cheap scares, Aliens, gore) and was "denied" in the last film in much the same way AvP 2 almost a decade ago sold itself with trailers that promised the R rating with that obvious glowing red R that they later said stood for "Requiem" -- for your brain, something I suspect will be necessary once you watch this new film

there's a nice crescendo of cringe throughout from the Harbinger Down guy to the couple making love in the shower as the creature tail slips in like a voyeur pervert! In the shower!!! I love this, Alien has turned into the countless copycats spawned after its release



I'll go watch Deep Freeze

You've summed up my thoughts.  And so far out of Sir Ridley's science-fiction entries, this is his least visually interesting (from what the trailer shows).  I hate the gray color palette - very generic horror film look.
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Post by: 426Buddy on Dec 25, 2016, 12:30:52 PM
Yay in thought it looked really great! I mean I totally loved it.

But now its time for people to start wining and hating about every detail because they cpmpletely over hyped themselves up for something that was totally different in their head. The comparisons to avpr and how Scotts a hack, I'm sure it'll all get posted. If it hasn't already.

But I'm happy looks like its gonna be really great, can't wait for may to get here.
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Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 12:32:34 PM
WTF???

People are now saying Prometheus is ok? Because it isn't generic ??

ROFWL!!

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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:35:24 PM
I dont see people saying Prometheus is great. For sure who liked it still like it but its all bout this movie according to this trailer looks very nice, simple and cheap. Like all the Hollywood movies nowdays.
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Post by: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 12:35:38 PM
Those comparisons are stupid... With all due respect
many of those who made comments about AVP Requem, bad acting,
overpolished designs, etc must probably enjoyed that very avp Requiem.
Too early to be negative... watch the movie when its out and judge by yourself.
Dont rate the movie before its out... but people are people. They hate what they
do not know.
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Post by: Alien³ on Dec 25, 2016, 12:35:45 PM
Absolutely loved the look and atmosphere of this.

Glimpses of so many awesome new things and incredible visuals.
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Post by: bacchus on Dec 25, 2016, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 12:32:34 PM
WTF???

People are now saying Prometheus is ok? Because it isn't generic ??

ROFWL!!

I think people were expecting to be as impressed as they were initially with the Prometheus trailer, which was truly great and literally set the trend for lots of other trailers. In comparison, this feels generic.

It might not turn out to be one of the best Alien films, but, let's be honest, it's still going to be a better sci-fi horror than most things over the past few years.
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Post by: slipknotpredator on Dec 25, 2016, 12:38:10 PM
Love it.

I just hope we get to see aliens running around in the planet and not only inside the ship. The environment is beautiful and very different from what we've seen before.

Reminds me of "Aliens Fire and Stone".
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Post by: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 12:38:10 PM
Completely agree.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:38:37 PM

(i meant the original)

even if its a copy cat (too) this trailer is much much better, only spoiling the main plot with one death
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: bacchus on Dec 25, 2016, 12:36:11 PMI think people were expecting to be as impressed as they were initially with the Prometheus trailer, which was truly great and literally set the trend for lots of other trailers. In comparison, this feels generic.

I'd much rather have an OK trailer for a great film than a superb trailer for a crap one.
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Post by: Elmazalman on Dec 25, 2016, 12:45:14 PM
I like the shot of the tail creeping up the bare legs - a nod to the original film.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
drifting through the comments on various forums under the trailer ...it gets a lot of "hate" from fans and from generic viewers


at least we can give Fox credit for being ballsy and they dont try to hide it that its the 2nd remake of Alien
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Post by: Alien³ on Dec 25, 2016, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
we can give Fox credit for being ballsy and they dont try to hide it that its the 2nd remake of Alien

Aliens & Prometheus?
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Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 25, 2016, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: bacchus on Dec 25, 2016, 12:36:11 PMI think people were expecting to be as impressed as they were initially with the Prometheus trailer, which was truly great and literally set the trend for lots of other trailers. In comparison, this feels generic.

I'd much rather have an OK trailer for a great film than a superb trailer for a crap one.

Here, here!

Besides, the more you watch the trailer the more it grows on you. i was underwhelmed at first but I'm pretty satisfied now.

I agree with some on the colour palette. But that may change come May?

I think the back bursting sequence is gonna be particularly good. I thought the acting for this was rather convincing. Katherine waterston at the table, not so much. But ya know, she may play a blinder in the film. Noomi Rapace was dreadful in Prometheus.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:52:18 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Dec 25, 2016, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
we can give Fox credit for being ballsy and they dont try to hide it that its the 2nd remake of Alien

Aliens & Prometheus?

Prometheus and Covenant i meant :)

Aliens went a totally different direction even with the trailer already.
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Post by: 426Buddy on Dec 25, 2016, 12:54:09 PM
Yeah I'm really excited now, the whole trailer looked freaky and the visuals amazing.
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Post by: PsyKore on Dec 25, 2016, 12:54:41 PM
I loved it. I'm more disappointed by people automatically writing off the film.
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Post by: Prez on Dec 25, 2016, 12:55:41 PM
I've been out most of the day celebrating Christmas with the family and new this trailer had finally dropped but I resisted watching it given all the distraction around me. Got home and watched in glorious HD all quiet and alone and ... bam ... wow.

The vibe is not what I was expecting. Shades of the original Alien and Prometheus to boot. That backburster scene looks horrifying and that spore/embryo(??) flying into that dudes ear. Wow.

And Scott finally got his sex scene in too (remember the original Alien was planned to have a scene in the removed Observation Bubble). That tail curling up ... Lambert all over again.

I want more!!!
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Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 25, 2016, 12:57:44 PM
1,000,000 views within 8 hours, Alien is back baby!
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Post by: 426Buddy on Dec 25, 2016, 12:57:50 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 25, 2016, 12:54:41 PM
I loved it. I'm more disappointed by people automatically writing off the film.

I agree but I was prepared for this film get a lot of hate regardless of what was in the trailer,  the constant comparisons to avpr crack me up though.
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Post by: Xenoscream on Dec 25, 2016, 12:59:34 PM
Does the Alien has Resurrection hands? :-s
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Post by: Gazz on Dec 25, 2016, 01:00:13 PM
Didn't like the shower scene but the rest of the trailer is quite solid.
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 25, 2016, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 25, 2016, 12:30:52 PM
Yay in thought it looked really great! I mean I totally loved it.

But now its time for people to start wining and hating about every detail because they cpmpletely over hyped themselves up for something that was totally different in their head. The comparisons to avpr and how Scotts a hack, I'm sure it'll all get posted. If it hasn't already.

But I'm happy looks like its gonna be really great, can't wait for may to get here.

Yep, just skim-read through this thread, it's mentioned several times.  :laugh:

Pretty much how I thought it would look and it looks great. No surprises, no complaints. Yet.
Would be interesting to see how everything looks and works in the proper context though. That first Prometheus teaser trailer was mind-blowing but the actual film was a bit of a letdown.

Quote from: SuicideDoors on Dec 25, 2016, 12:57:44 PM
1,000,000 views within 8 hours, Alien is back baby!

Most of those views were mine though.
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Post by: Dill-On on Dec 25, 2016, 01:01:41 PM
It looks like a cheap zombie movie and should be titled: "Return Of The Space Zombies and Black Goo 3D". As a huge fan of original ALIEN, I'm laughing and crying at the same time.
Please Hollywood, hire me. I will bring you better movie than this. I will bring you money!
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Post by: Deadmeat on Dec 25, 2016, 01:03:14 PM
The Prometheus: Covenant trailer looks great!


Oh, wait.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 01:04:07 PM
Quote from: Dill-On on Dec 25, 2016, 01:01:41 PM
It looks like a cheap zombie movie and should be titled: "Return Of The Space Zombies and Black Goo 3D". As a huge fan of original ALIEN, I'm laughing and crying at the same time.
Please Hollywood, hire me. I will bring you better movie than this. I will bring you money!

I dont think Hollywood needs creative writers. They can sell whatever they want with an established franchise. We are living the age of the remakes remember :)
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Post by: Alien³ on Dec 25, 2016, 01:08:32 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:52:18 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Dec 25, 2016, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
we can give Fox credit for being ballsy and they dont try to hide it that its the 2nd remake of Alien

Aliens & Prometheus?

Prometheus and Covenant i meant :)

Aliens is as much of a remake of Alien as Prometheus and Covenant.

Check it...

Alien & Aliens

Ripley travels to planet to check out a disturbance.
Aliens infect/kill crew.
She escapes hell by blowing up the place (ship/Hadley's Hope) and believes the Alien/s are dead.
Alien stowaway is revealed and Ripely hides away to suit up (spacesuit/Powerloader) and blow the creature out of the airlock.

Covenant taking similar scenes from Alien is just the nature of sequels.
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Post by: Prez on Dec 25, 2016, 01:08:39 PM
Having a more frame by frame look and just realised the dude steps on those bulbs and release what looks like the Black Goo in airborne format (??) which enters his ears.
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Post by: 426Buddy on Dec 25, 2016, 01:09:56 PM
Watched it a second time, it just looks so great, so much good stuff in this trailer.

The alien at the end of the trailer can barely be seen other than a tiny bit of the face and some of the tail. So you can't compare it design wise. But I think it is the original xeno or really close to it, that facehugger that hits crudup looks like a normal facehugger from the other films.
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Post by: Prez on Dec 25, 2016, 01:13:52 PM
Slowing it down frame by frame when the female is shooting through the cargo netting you can clearly see one of the neomorphs ducking the first salvo - has the big bulbous head.
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 01:23:19 PM
I think this Walter robot is even more evil, he doesnt even smile and looks mean. When the egg opens he just stands there looking.
Its like an estafette run on the olympics one evil robot passes the stick to an even more evil robot.



Quote from: Prez on Dec 25, 2016, 01:13:52 PM
Slowing it down frame by frame when the female is shooting through the cargo netting you can clearly see one of the neomorphs ducking the first salvo - has the big bulbous head.
Yeah but her action makes it blow up the ship, i am curious if the creature survives.
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Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 25, 2016, 01:24:31 PM
Quote
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Dec 25, 2016, 12:57:44 PM
1,000,000 views within 8 hours, Alien is back baby!

Most of those views were mine though.

Haha I've only watched it a mere 30,000 times myself.
Quote from: Xenoscream on Dec 25, 2016, 12:59:34 PM
Does the Alien has Resurrection hands? :-s

Nah the Resurrection hands have 2 elongated fingers with a thumb either side. AvP onwards had flipper hands. I was expecting hands similar to the tease we got ageeees ago in the creature workshop, which looked reminiscent albeit slightly different to Big Chap. What we saw in the trailer seemed like yet another variation of the creature's hands. At least they're not flippers :)
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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Dec 25, 2016, 01:24:46 PM
The jury's out for me. There's no way that the film can be judged based on this trailer alone. The music all but guarantees that because it shapes the mood of what we're seeing, even though it's just temp trailer music. I'm withholding judgement.

That said, me being pretty much spoiler-free, it sure does kind of look like a note-for-note remake of ALIEN, doesn't it? But come on, it couldn't have taken them three years to write an ALIEN remake. I hope that there are many surprises left out of this trailer.

[p.s: Is it just me, or does the captain have a bit of a Tom Skerritt vibe?]
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Post by: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 01:23:19 PM
I think this Walter robot is even more evil, he doesnt even smile and looks mean. When the egg opens he just stands there looking.
Its like an estafette run on the olympics one evil robot passes the stick to an even more evil robot.

That's David standing and looking over Crudup's character... ;D
David now looks the same as Walter... I presume he used all of his Hair dye.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 01:30:22 PM
would be funny if Walter entered the ship alone for security reasons to check it out...they lose contact with him and after an ahour he reports. and meanwhile David hacks hims takes his body or whatever and they dont even know about it and he starts to experiment with the Coevenant crew now
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Post by: 343 on Dec 25, 2016, 01:31:45 PM
Good trailer.
What a panic and negativity. Almost nothing of the real story (the spacejockeys, role David etc) was given away. Some scarejumps and that's it. "It's so generic i'am gonna cry". Just like with almost every movie.

when will the green trailer see light of day?
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Post by: Nostromo on Dec 25, 2016, 01:35:35 PM
Looks great, listen to those footsteps in the beginning in the corridor..i just hope aliens are not full cgi looking..
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Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
So, Covenant goes to LV-223 and finds the crashed Juggernaut surrounded by a black goo ecosystem of which the aliens are now a part?

Is that what I'm seeing here?
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Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 25, 2016, 01:41:36 PM
I think they went to a different planetoid, which was the same planetoid that Shaw and David left for at the end of Prometheus.  In other words, it's paradise.
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Post by: Stolen on Dec 25, 2016, 01:45:19 PM
And people really want the Alien of Blomkamp after seeing this?

The xenomorph alone can't be enough to make a film! Hope for more mystery, engineers and new fresh ideas

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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 25, 2016, 01:46:37 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
So, Covenant goes to LV-223 and finds the crashed Juggernaut surrounded by a black goo ecosystem of which the aliens are now a part?

Is that what I'm seeing here?

That's supposed to be the Juggernaut that David and Shaw nicks at the end of Prometheus (but not the one that the Prometheus rams though). They fly off to the Engineer homeworld (known as Paradise) and apparently crash-land in the forest.

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Post by: Look into my eye on Dec 25, 2016, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 25, 2016, 12:54:41 PM
I loved it. I'm more disappointed by people automatically writing off the film.

Me too.
I loved it and it was exactly the feel I was expecting from the stills I have seen.
That must be the Juggernaut from Prometheus with Shaw's dog tags hanging up.
The shower scene - From the screen grab that isn't big chap going off the hand design? It looks like the pictures of the hand they were modelling months ago?  ???
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Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 25, 2016, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: Look into my eye on Dec 25, 2016, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 25, 2016, 12:54:41 PM
I loved it. I'm more disappointed by people automatically writing off the film.

Me too.
I loved it and it was exactly the feel I was expecting from the stills I have seen.
That must be the Juggernaut from Prometheus with Shaw's dog tags hanging up.
The shower scene - From the screen grab that isn't big chap going off the hand design? It looks like the pictures of the hand they were modelling months ago?  ???

I think it is Big Chap, they've just reinvigorated the design. Kinda of like how no one singular design throughout the 4 original films look the same.
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Post by: John Doe on Dec 25, 2016, 01:50:59 PM
I think that Alien is the Crudup son. the Protoform of the poster.
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
So, Covenant goes to LV-223 and finds the crashed Juggernaut surrounded by a black goo ecosystem of which the aliens are now a part?

Is that what I'm seeing here?
What if paradise is LV-426? what if that juggernaut never made it out and just landed on that beautiful planet,
and after the crash of David and Shaw it slowly became a black goo infested planet and after Covenant it became more rotten and rotten and started to change over the years into a desolate place, i know it isnt Lv-426 but he shouldnt have parked that Juggernaut as the Derelict ship!!! and its parked backwards ffs!!! ;)
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Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 25, 2016, 01:46:37 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
So, Covenant goes to LV-223 and finds the crashed Juggernaut surrounded by a black goo ecosystem of which the aliens are now a part?

Is that what I'm seeing here?

That's supposed to be the Juggernaut that David and Shaw nicks at the end of Prometheus (but not the one that the Prometheus rams though). They fly off to the Engineer homeworld (known as Paradise) and apparently crash-land in the forest.

Good.  I really don't want to revisit LV-223.
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Post by: Look into my eye on Dec 25, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 01:23:19 PM
I think this Walter robot is even more evil, he doesnt even smile and looks mean. When the egg opens he just stands there looking.
Its like an estafette run on the olympics one evil robot passes the stick to an even more evil robot.

That's David standing and looking over Crudup's character... ;D
David now looks the same as Walter... I presume he used all of his Hair dye.

I think that is Walter, he seems to be wearing the same outfit in the scene with the torch with Daniels. (except his hood is up)
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 25, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 01:51:21 PM
Good.  I really don't want to revisit LV-223.

No worries, there's only the one new planet in the film.

It's Paradise.
You'll like it.

No LV-223, guaranteed or your money back.
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Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 01:55:41 PM
What about the skull?  Did they bring back the skull?
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 01:56:04 PM
Quote from: Look into my eye on Dec 25, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 01:23:19 PM
I think this Walter robot is even more evil, he doesnt even smile and looks mean. When the egg opens he just stands there looking.
Its like an estafette run on the olympics one evil robot passes the stick to an even more evil robot.

That's David standing and looking over Crudup's character... ;D
David now looks the same as Walter... I presume he used all of his Hair dye.

I think that is Walter, he seems to be wearing the same outfit in the scene with the torch with Daniels. (except his hood is up)
I think at this point they didnt encounter David yet.
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Post by: Look into my eye on Dec 25, 2016, 01:57:55 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Dec 25, 2016, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: Look into my eye on Dec 25, 2016, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 25, 2016, 12:54:41 PM
I loved it. I'm more disappointed by people automatically writing off the film.

Me too.
I loved it and it was exactly the feel I was expecting from the stills I have seen.
That must be the Juggernaut from Prometheus with Shaw's dog tags hanging up.
The shower scene - From the screen grab that isn't big chap going off the hand design? It looks like the pictures of the hand they were modelling months ago?  ???

I think it is Big Chap, they've just reinvigorated the design. Kinda of like how no one singular design throughout the 4 original films look the same.

I think it may be a Xeno before the mechanoid parts are added somehow. I dunno, I can't believe Scott would not use the orignal design.
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 25, 2016, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 01:55:41 PM
What about the skull?  Did they bring back the skull?

Ah... now that's a bit of a sensitive topic. Lets discuss this in my office.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
I think there are two scenarios. They meet David straigth up front and he will lure the Covenant team to the derelict. Or David will sneak into the crew and ship as Walter while everyone expect David to be blonde he will be brunette aswell.
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Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 02:01:07 PM
I assumed it was just another David model android, not the original.
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Post by: KillCrites on Dec 25, 2016, 02:01:57 PM
OH NO A COUPLE IS IN THE SHOWERRRRRR!!!!!!!1111111111111111 OLDESTD CLICHE IN A HORROR MOVIE EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
TIHS MOVIE IS GOING TO BE GRARBAGE1!!1!11!!!1
IT HAS SIMILARITIES PROMETHEUS!!!!!!!!111  THAT MOVEI SucKS!!!1!!!11
IM JUDGING THis ENTIRE MOVIE BY A TWO MINUTUE TRAAIILLERR!!!!!!!11

Just wait and watch the movie, people. We have no way of knowing how good or bad this movie is going to be. Prometheus had a fantastic, beautiful trailer but got extremely mixed reviews. This movie can be good. I enjoyed the trailer and I think it did it's job well.

I'm also loving your guys' theories. Keep it up.


Also, who wants to talk about the alien's new hands???
(https://i.imgsafe.org/fd0f5f0b6d.jpg)
They remind me of a squid.
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 02:12:01 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
I think there are two scenarios. They meet David straigth up front and he will lure the Covenant team to the derelict. Or David will sneak into the crew and ship as Walter while everyone expect David to be blonde he will be brunette aswell.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F13z33mr.jpg&hash=29febcdf7267db48c09b4b88ff83a55e2004662a)

Its safe to say this is David (blonde) with long hair as it comes out of his hoody, yes?


I think the egg/facehugger is Davids legacy/work, eventually he will be in the movie, luring the captain into looking into the egg and getting facehugged, giving birth to the xeno on the Covenant, seeing his work that is finally working to creating the perfection weapon as the god he thinks he is, probably killed Shaw with his first experiment.
Then the crew of the Covenant become victim to the xeno terror and all becoming eggs, therfor the engineer in the derelict captured those eggs at some point in the timeline, trying to get them back to their world (Earth) because David made them and we made David, the engineers offcourse gives birth to something horrible, crashes the ship on LV-426 and sends a warning signal.
So if there will ever be another movie after this, it will involve a lot more info on everything as for the goo as for the engineers,
and thus Blomkamp will have to change his story/script.
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 25, 2016, 02:14:12 PM
I loved the trailer, the environmental shots were as beautiful as the music, I'm certain the casting was better for this film (Fassbender being the exception as he was already fantastic in Prometheus) and like icing on the cake the Xeno appears in all its glory! Couldn't have imagined a better trailer! Wow!!!
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Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
The "backburster" and the Big Chap remind me of the hybrid and the beast from the Gibson 2.0 script of Alien.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Dec 25, 2016, 01:35:35 PM
Looks great, listen to those footsteps in the beginning in the corridor..i just hope aliens are not full cgi looking..

Thanks for confirming this. I thought those were foot prints on the floor.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: KillCrites on Dec 25, 2016, 02:01:57 PM
OH NO A COUPLE IS IN THE SHOWERRRRRR!!!!!!!1111111111111111 OLDESTD CLICHE IN A HORROR MOVIE EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
TIHS MOVIE IS GOING TO BE GRARBAGE1!!1!11!!!1
IT HAS SIMILARITIES PROMETHEUS!!!!!!!!111  THAT MOVEI SucKS!!!1!!!11
IM JUDGING THis ENTIRE MOVIE BY A TWO MINUTUE TRAAIILLERR!!!!!!!11

Just wait and watch the movie, people. We have no way of knowing how good or bad this movie is going to be. Prometheus had a fantastic, beautiful trailer but got extremely mixed reviews. This movie can be good. I enjoyed the trailer and I think it did it's job well.

I'm also loving your guys' theories. Keep it up.


Also, who wants to talk about the alien's new hands???
(https://i.imgsafe.org/fd0f5f0b6d.jpg)
They remind me of a squid.

reminds me of alien resurrection :D
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Post by: acrediblesource on Dec 25, 2016, 02:20:58 PM
Im hoping David and Walter or even Weyland parts will hold this movie together as well as the acting. I know this is the teaser, but I will wait until I see some significant dialogue parts that will intrigue me. I know they will deliver on this.
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Post by: D. Compton Ambrose on Dec 25, 2016, 02:29:00 PM
One word comes to mind.
"Rushed."
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Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 02:42:14 PM
I'm SHOCKED at all the complaining I see on various boards. This was honestly better than I expected, the acting looks fantastic, the cinematography - about which people whine everywhere I look now  - honestly looks great to me - dark and gritty but also very beautiful (the shots of the environment of the planet) and that opening scene was tense as hell. Fantastic trailer!
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Post by: BonesawT101 on Dec 25, 2016, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 02:42:14 PM
I'm SHOCKED at all the complaining I see on various boards. This was honestly better than I expected, the acting looks fantastic, the cinematography - about which people whine everywhere I look now  - honestly looks great to me - dark and gritty but also very beautiful (the shots of the environment of the planet) and that opening scene was tense as hell. Fantastic trailer!
100 percent agree!
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Post by: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 25, 2016, 02:48:24 PM
Kinda weird trailer, especially showing multiple death scenes - why? I guess there are other useable scenes to show Prometheus complainers that this time there are Aliens and eggs in it - without spoiling the fates of several characters.

Feels a bit like:
Look, there are eggs and Aliens, like in the original. Look, there is a cowboy hat and old stuff, space truckers - you know? Look, there is something like the chestburster scene in this one as well. Look, a chick like Ripley in tank top. Look, helmets and shoulder cameras like in Aliens...so much similar stuff, so this time it's Alien for sure! I'm fine with this, as long as we get a good plot and acting as well :D

Though, not judging the whole thing by an early trailer. Liked the first Prometheus trailer, but the movie - not so much :D
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 02:51:39 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 02:42:14 PM
I'm SHOCKED at all the complaining I see on various boards. This was honestly better than I expected, the acting looks fantastic, the cinematography - about which people whine everywhere I look now  - honestly looks great to me - dark and gritty but also very beautiful (the shots of the environment of the planet) and that opening scene was tense as hell. Fantastic trailer!
Agreed, the hate is immeasurable as Krennick would say!
Ridley knows how to create good effects and worlds, this trailer has everything going and still people hate on it.
Or those people dont know nothing about movies and they just follow the hate hype, because thats what everybody does.
Or they are just full of shit.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 02:51:51 PM
I can't believe people are shocked that others are going to have a difference of opinion when it comes to making a judgment on the trailer. For some (myself included) the trailer doesn't make much of an impression. It just looks like old hat to me.

Maybe the greenband will be better.
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Post by: ep40 on Dec 25, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
While the trailer had some problems, I'm not that worried about the film itself and it won't a simple Alien remake. We know that there is additional stuff like David's experiments, burned Engineers, different strains of Alien. Also we didn't had before in an Alien film, a lush green planet like here. We were presented familiar elements to get us interested, but there is more than meets the eye.
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Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:05 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 02:51:51 PM
I can't believe people are shocked that others are going to have a difference of opinion when it comes to making a judgment on the trailer. For some (myself included) the trailer doesn't make much of an impression. It just looks like old hat to me.

Maybe the greenband will be better.

The scale of this shocks me. This is a great trailer and Alien movies are always a crew of a ship or a group of people being taken down by creature(s). What did people expect to happen here?
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Post by: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PM
ALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:05 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 02:51:51 PM
I can't believe people are shocked that others are going to have a difference of opinion when it comes to making a judgment on the trailer. For some (myself included) the trailer doesn't make much of an impression. It just looks like old hat to me.

Maybe the greenband will be better.

The scale of this shocks me. This is a great trailer and Alien movies are always a crew of a ship or a group of people being taken down by creature(s). What did people expect to happen here?

I haven't looked at other message boards, but it seems like a lot of people here are enjoying it more than those that haven't.
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Post by: reecebomb on Dec 25, 2016, 03:18:03 PM
Wow! Looks like a generic early 2000's sci fi horror that's nothing to do with Alien films, more like a uninspired Alien knock off. Obvious cgi that's made worse with terrible cheap color grading doesn't help. Not sure if im gonna see it, i turned off AVP:R halfway in, might as well skip this one entirely. I'm sure it won't be as dreadful as AVP:R, but i will be really pleasantly surprised if it can top even Alien:Resurrection, i really doubt it will.

Prometheus didn't work for me at all and was a complete mess with some interesting and unexpected ideas, but at least they tried to do something different. For me the Prometheus killed the space jockeys, but this one will try it's best to finish off the perfect organism.

I think movies like this should only be made if the script is amazing and it expand the universe while not damaging the classics. Im not saying that Prometheus shouldn't have been made, but i it was a mistake to tie it in with Alien universe, they are worlds apart and this will be even further away, even if it's got eggs, facehuggers, xenomorphs etc. Despite this i really respect Ridley Scott and all but thank god he is not directing the Blade Runner sequel.

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Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 25, 2016, 03:20:04 PM
I just watched the truler, and thought it was pretty damn good! Visually the film looks even better than Prometheus, which is really saying something. Also, I like that it doesn't spoil much.

Spoiler
Of course I loved the shot of the Juggernaut, and the brief glimpse of the traditional alien.
[close]

Overall, I'm very excited for the movie.
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Post by: Magegg on Dec 25, 2016, 03:33:13 PM
Quote from: KillCrites on Dec 25, 2016, 02:01:57 PMAlso, who wants to talk about the alien's new hands???
(https://i.imgsafe.org/fd0f5f0b6d.jpg)
They remind me of a squid.
No, they remind me of Saladfingers.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 03:37:06 PM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movies/alien-covenant/teaser-trailer-breakdown/

Trailer breakdown is up!
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 03:37:47 PM
Snip.

Completely uncalled for. If you're going to disagree with someone, do it in a respectful and mature manner.

Hicks.
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Post by: CELTICPRED on Dec 25, 2016, 03:37:55 PM
I haven't posted around here in years but after this trailer dropped I figured I'd poke my head back in.    Interesting to see some of the stuff people have found in such a short trailer, but it's also a good place to help temper expectations, especially after being duped by trailers for the last movie. 
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Post by: Glaive on Dec 25, 2016, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: Prez on Dec 25, 2016, 12:55:41 PM

And Scott finally got his sex scene in too (remember the original Alien was planned to have a scene in the removed Observation Bubble). That tail curling up ... Lambert all over again.

I want more!!!

Technically, 'Brett' all over again...(apologies for my pedancy...) ;D
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Post by: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 08:19:41 AM
I thought the idea of a shower scene would've been cool, but after seeing it not so much. I didn't hate it, but it feels like something out of those Corman B movies like Forbidden World or Galaxy of Terror.

Nailed it!  I wish I'd thought of that comparison drunk at 2am.  Good one.
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 03:37:06 PM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movies/alien-covenant/teaser-trailer-breakdown/

Trailer breakdown is up!
I have a question and comment on it, the part when you see the Covenant passing a planet where there is lightning in the clouds, and then the camera follows the Covenant but in the distance you see another planet with a sun behind it, isnt it more likely that that is the planet they are heading? and what do we know for sure that the planet where the clouds and lightning are on isnt the one from Prometheus??
if David and Shaw or lets say David is on that planet "paradise" for ten years, ten they didnt travel long to get there.
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Post by: p_w_s86 on Dec 25, 2016, 03:55:59 PM
Scott is delivering a popcorn thriller, laced with the more philosophical elements of Prometheus.  A good mix, and one that a majority audience demanded quite viciously.

People are right to guffaw at the trailer for being nothing new - it's not.  But then, what were people expecting from a Ridley Scott Alien movie?  Especially one where Scott has possibly been 'asked' to sell-out his original vision to appease said cynical, impatient majority audiences?

Any disappointment with the trailer might comes from those who have followed all the set pictures and secrets that we shouldn't really know.  So those people are perhaps disappointed that those more abstract choices weren't included in the trailer, and I agree with that thinking. 

However, Fox has to build a momentum that convinces those that hated Prometheus to come to this one - this trailer delivers and a degree of nostalgia was inevitable as a result.

However, I think people here still believe in the movie itself - no reason not to.  I, for one, enjoyed Prometheus, and Alien is my favourite movie.  I think it's a shame that there may be less risk here, but it'll be an enjoyable movie.
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Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 25, 2016, 03:57:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 03:37:06 PM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movies/alien-covenant/teaser-trailer-breakdown/

Trailer breakdown is up!

Very nice breakdown, Hicks! Those screngrabs are cool, as well. The crashed Juggernaut quickly became my desktop picture!  ;D

I have to confess I can barely see the
Spoiler
Neomorph. Is is the little gray blob next to the piece of yellow equipment?
[close]
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Post by: cyperon on Dec 25, 2016, 04:03:01 PM
It looks beautiful. The full back-bursting sequence is gonna be another iconic moment in the series. It reminds me of the Fire and Stone series, but it's Covenant. I'm so excited to see the origin of the classic xenos!
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Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 04:09:07 PM
who is the woman screaming near the end of the trailer?
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:11:14 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 04:09:07 PM
who is the woman screaming near the end of the trailer?
Yeah and are those hallways wich look alienated are those on the Covenant?? imagine that ending, going from a big beautiful ship to a flying xeno paradise.
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Post by: nanison on Dec 25, 2016, 04:13:01 PM
Isn't the neomorph visible behind that net/grid in one of the screenshots? Or am I imagining things?
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:17:36 PM
Quote from: nanison on Dec 25, 2016, 04:13:01 PM
Isn't the neomorph visible behind that net/grid in one of the screenshots? Or am I imagining things?
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=55933.msg2163528#new

Check out my special pics from my personal stash.
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Post by: nanison on Dec 25, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
I was thinking about the other picture without the explosion
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:25:51 PM
Quote from: nanison on Dec 25, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
I was thinking about the other picture without the explosion
Show me
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Post by: nanison on Dec 25, 2016, 04:27:27 PM
I can't but you can find it among all the screenshots posted earlier
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Post by: SF on Dec 25, 2016, 04:27:31 PM
I do not understand why all the hate for the trailer....doesnt ruin the movie.
Seems scarier than Prometheus and the alien(and facehugger) we love is back.

Two things i did not like though.
First,the tail in the shower scene.Not very convincing...maybe the cgi will be better on the final copy.

Second,the spore flying in the ear.Even if it turns out that it is a trap from David,i do not like it as a way
to infect people.Facehugger,black goo on your drink...ok.Flying spores that seem like they came from the
Matrix...no.
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Post by: Ephemer Nine on Dec 25, 2016, 04:29:50 PM
It's visually fantastic, maybe even sharper than "Prometheus". The shots of David in the piano room and the ship heading to the planet are simply delicious!

Also eliminates any concern we might have had about the degree of the gore and horror aspect :).

I am mostly worried about wether or not they will give serious continuation to "Prometheus"'s themes. It definitely seems, for better or worse, a totally different movie in terms of tone and atmosphere.
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Post by: Trioxide on Dec 25, 2016, 04:30:53 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fyw6QhKW.jpg&hash=0409853a543adeafbd65ce8c75a7133fadcb7d14)
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Post by: nanison on Dec 25, 2016, 04:32:32 PM
I've just checked it again, there is a white creature behind the net/grid which Daniels (i presume) is walking towards too with gun ready to fire. Pictures were posted on the main page.
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Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 25, 2016, 04:32:42 PM
^Ah, I see it now. Thanks!
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Post by: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PM
ALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.

ALIEN did it before those tropes were as really established, and with a sense of mystery and style that you just can't pull off in 2016.  Pre-1980 horror films establish the tropes, 1980 (the year slasher films exploded on the film world) solidifies them and the rest of the 80's was spent building on those tropes to the point of cliche. 

I wonder if I'd be better with this being the trailer to the third movie.  I kinda wanna see the Shaw and David movie that takes place between Prometheus and Covenant.  Kinda like Shaw and David starring in "Moon".
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Post by: nanison on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:27 PM
Yup that's it!



Check out reviews for alien in 1979 people didn't think much of it...
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: Trioxide on Dec 25, 2016, 04:30:53 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fyw6QhKW.jpg&hash=0409853a543adeafbd65ce8c75a7133fadcb7d14)
Ah yes that scene.
I really hope that that neomorph has a friendly child face, something like the creature from Mimic the movie had a humanoid sillouette.
Just to throw you off.
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Post by: Xenomorphine on Dec 25, 2016, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Dec 25, 2016, 01:35:35 PM
Looks great, listen to those footsteps in the beginning in the corridor..i just hope aliens are not full cgi looking..

I initially thought it was going to be a clever reference to 'Alien 3', with that being the sound of a creature the crew had trapped, banging on a door.

When you see the two female characters meet, however, the same noise coincides with the woman banging her hand on the door, who's begging to be let out of there.

As I wrote earlier, I suspect this is because she's also regarded as being similarly infected. If not, then the other character is going to look like a dick for not taking the opportunity to try quickly letting her out.

Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:42:05 PM
I really hope that that neomorph has a friendly child face, something like the creature from Mimic the movie had a humanoid sillouette.
Just to throw you off.

Child-like traits were famously tried with the Newborn. Didn't work out well...
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Post by: El Diablo on Dec 25, 2016, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Dec 25, 2016, 06:17:34 AM
Can anyone Who read the spoilers tell me how the Aliens are portrayed in this movie? because the Alien in the shower reminded me more of the AVPR aliens than the original Giger beast. Please don't tell me the aliens are expendable canon fodder in this movie.

Spoiler
Both the Neomorph and the final Alien are more feral and animal like as opposed to the creeping, silent killer from the original.
[close]
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 25, 2016, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Dec 25, 2016, 01:35:35 PM
Looks great, listen to those footsteps in the beginning in the corridor..i just hope aliens are not full cgi looking..

I initially thought it was going to be a clever reference to 'Alien 3', with that being the sound of a creature the crew had trapped, banging on a door.

When you see the two female characters meet, however, the same noise coincides with the woman banging her hand on the door, who's begging to be let out of there.

As I wrote earlier, I suspect this is because she's also regarded as being similarly infected. If not, then the other character is going to look like a dick for not taking the opportunity to try quickly letting her out.

Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:42:05 PM
I really hope that that neomorph has a friendly child face, something like the creature from Mimic the movie had a humanoid sillouette.
Just to throw you off.

Child-like traits were famously tried with the Newborn. Didn't work out well...
Yeah i know but they didnt do it properly.
Its like with the stormtrooper helmets, there are version that are a little off and they just look bad and weird,
having the right mold/model makes the stormtrooper look awesome.
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Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 04:50:25 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: Trioxide on Dec 25, 2016, 04:30:53 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fyw6QhKW.jpg&hash=0409853a543adeafbd65ce8c75a7133fadcb7d14)
Ah yes that scene.
I really hope that that neomorph has a friendly child face, something like the creature from Mimic the movie had a humanoid sillouette.
Just to throw you off.

Well Collider called it 'adorable' :)
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Post by: eyeballkid on Dec 25, 2016, 04:57:23 PM
I'm really hoping we have only seen the first act...
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Post by: KingXD on Dec 25, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
Real question is that weather or not we will get a Xenomorph Vs Neomorph fight in this movie.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 05:06:02 PM
Quote from: nanison on Dec 25, 2016, 04:32:32 PM
I've just checked it again, there is a white creature behind the net/grid which Daniels (i presume) is walking towards too with gun ready to fire. Pictures were posted on the main page.

the chick is firing who looked up the other one with the infected dude at the beginning. she will blow up the drop ship by hitting something flameable
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Post by: XenoHunter99 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:22 PM
The magic is gone. That's the most concise way to put it. I can wait for this on video and not miss anything. I'm happy for the people who are hyped for this. I hope it's not another turd, but the more they show, the less I care about it. I'll monitor its progress in the hope that I'm wrong. But so far, this thing is not thrilling me.
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PM
ALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.

ALIEN did it before those tropes were as really established, and with a sense of mystery and style that you just can't pull off in 2016.  Pre-1980 horror films establish the tropes, 1980 (the year slasher films exploded on the film world) solidifies them and the rest of the 80's was spent building on those tropes to the point of cliche. 
I consider myself quite an aficionado of horror films... everything from expressionist German horror to Classic Universal and Hammer Studios films... to the classic horror movies of the 60's and 70's. And in my opinion, Alien/Ridley Scott DID make use of existing thriller/horror tropes. These did NOT start with Alien.
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Post by: reecebomb on Dec 25, 2016, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PM

I kinda wanna see the Shaw and David movie that takes place between Prometheus and Covenant.  Kinda like Shaw and David starring in "Moon".

That would be really interesting, how i imagined the sequel could pan out after seeing Prometheus. A nightmarish entrance to the Giger-esque world.

Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:42:05 PM

I really hope that that neomorph has a friendly child face, something like the creature from Mimic the movie had a humanoid sillouette.
Just to throw you off.

Please no, another cheap horror trope that is far below the threshold of Alien standards.
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Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 25, 2016, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: El Diablo on Dec 25, 2016, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Dec 25, 2016, 06:17:34 AM
Can anyone Who read the spoilers tell me how the Aliens are portrayed in this movie? because the Alien in the shower reminded me more of the AVPR aliens than the original Giger beast. Please don't tell me the aliens are expendable canon fodder in this movie.

Spoiler
Both the Neomorph and the final Alien are more feral and animal like as opposed to the creeping, silent killer from the original.
[close]

That shriek at the end might be a placeholder sound effect though. The Hugger sound is lifted directly from the '79 film. We haven't seen literally anything to determine how the Alien is gonna be portrayed. I'm sure Scott will make the Alien seem Alien again, or at least I'm choosing to place my faith in him until I've seen the film in May.
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Post by: rabidranger on Dec 25, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Long time lurker. I thought the trailer was okay. Didn't really spoiler much which I guess is a departure from the Prometheus promotion. I take it the circumstances surrounding the derelict in Alien and events in Aliens is a direct result of what happens in Alien: Covenant? I have a nagging feeling we're going to find out that the queen from Aliens is actually Shaw.....
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Post by: AsapJockey on Dec 25, 2016, 05:24:11 PM
The Alien in the shower looks to be untouched by biomechanical influence in its DNA i think this will be the money shot at the end they showed us basically the first 40 minutes of this film real quick and left out the other 2/3 of it.
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Post by: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 05:34:19 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PM
ALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.

ALIEN did it before those tropes were as really established, and with a sense of mystery and style that you just can't pull off in 2016.  Pre-1980 horror films establish the tropes, 1980 (the year slasher films exploded on the film world) solidifies them and the rest of the 80's was spent building on those tropes to the point of cliche. 

s
I consider myself quite an aficionado of horror films... everything from expressionist German horror to Classic Universal and Hammer Studios films... to the classic horror movies of the 60's and 70's. And in my opinion, Alien/Ridley Scott DID make use of existing thriller/horror tropes. These did NOT start with Alien.

So am I but we have to look at the date it came out in.  The average film-maker or viewer has next to zero access to this in a per-vhs beyond private screenings, or the films being played at a theatre or on TV.  Tropes I think more form in the days of VHS and with accessibility to these films.  Before that, most of these films were made in complete isolation.  They might not have started with Alien, but Alien is one of the last refining stages before they become established tropes.  In my mind, the watering down/becoming a overused cliche all has to do with the rise of VHS and horror film in the 1980's.  It might have existed before, but many filmmakers would have zero knowledge of it or ability to watch those films.  You also have to localize geography quite a bit as well, as screening of international horror films in the 70's we very few and very far between even in massive cities. 

Even Scott and Dan Obannon have claimed to have never seen "Planet of the Vampires" when ALIEN was made (a claim i do not believe but they still claimed it).

I think technology/time frame has more to do with the rise of tropes/cliche than anything else.  I'm more likely to go easy on a film that dates before 1980 than I am during the Home Video revolution.
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Post by: Valaquen on Dec 25, 2016, 05:46:07 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PM
ALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.

ALIEN did it before those tropes were as really established, and with a sense of mystery and style that you just can't pull off in 2016.  Pre-1980 horror films establish the tropes, 1980 (the year slasher films exploded on the film world) solidifies them and the rest of the 80's was spent building on those tropes to the point of cliche. 
I consider myself quite an aficionado of horror films... everything from expressionist German horror to Classic Universal and Hammer Studios films... to the classic horror movies of the 60's and 70's. And in my opinion, Alien/Ridley Scott DID make use of existing thriller/horror tropes. These did NOT start with Alien.

Yeah, Alien was dragged through the critical grinder for using many old tropes (splitting up search parties, cat scares, etc) that were instantly recognisable (and quite old hat) to audiences in the 70's. Since Alien became the benchmark, younger fans just don't have the same perspective and don't recognise that much of the film was repurposed from older material.
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Post by: genocyber on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:02 PM
Anyone notice the xenomorphs tail in this is much smaller than the ones in the AVP movies.
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Post by: BR1XER on Dec 25, 2016, 06:02:04 PM
Meh trailer. I see trailers as a work of art in themselves, as they should present something appetizing and stimulating to the mind. This doesn't cut it. Plus, CGI aliens? Uncharacteristic cinematography from the start? Incomprehensible dialogue? I'm worried.

But I'm not gonna judge until I've seen the real deal.
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Post by: Attack.no1 on Dec 25, 2016, 06:14:56 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Dec 25, 2016, 05:47:02 PM
Anyone notice the xenomorphs tail in this is much smaller than the ones in the AVP movies.

It's the original tail design.
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Post by: Ja on Dec 25, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
Far superior ALIEN COVENANT TRAILER RECUTS: 



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Post by: oberonqa on Dec 25, 2016, 06:27:00 PM
Quote from: Ja on Dec 25, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
Far superior ALIEN COVENANT TRAILER RECUT: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al20SgjiqNc

I don't care for this cut.  We've been there, done that with the siren trailers.
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Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 06:32:04 PM
Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 25, 2016, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PM

I kinda wanna see the Shaw and David movie that takes place between Prometheus and Covenant.  Kinda like Shaw and David starring in "Moon".

That would be really interesting, how i imagined the sequel could pan out after seeing Prometheus. A nightmarish entrance to the Giger-esque world.

Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 04:42:05 PM

I really hope that that neomorph has a friendly child face, something like the creature from Mimic the movie had a humanoid sillouette.
Just to throw you off.

Please no, another cheap horror trope that is far below the threshold of Alien standards.
NO!! Listen to me, we need kids faces on these neomorphs!!
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Post by: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 06:32:49 PM
Recycling, recycling

(https://media.giphy.com/media/c5RGkklYwXeAE/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Lexxdog on Dec 25, 2016, 06:34:40 PM
I have had time 2 think about the trailer and I have 2 say not 2 happy I was soo looking forward 2 this move but I feel like Sir "RS"  is just been pigheaded  and just changing thing becouse he wants to and he's  spoiled and it his move so he can do what he wants 1st the space jockeys are not 8 feet tall humans and the dirilact is thousands off years old ( it the shower seen why?? I'm guessing that it take place about half way through move so some off your crew m8 have been infected with some wired alien shit and you been 2 a strang planet with no bio hazard suit on but any you deside 2 take a shower know there some weird alien shit running around d your ship "smart "
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 06:40:44 PM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:22 PMThe magic is gone. That's the most concise way to put it. I can wait for this on video and not miss anything.

Pretty bold claim considering you've seen all of 2 minutes of the film in clip format with no context whatsoever.
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 25, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
If they only would have ditch the first scene in the trailer and start off with David and they would end the trailer with the scream. That would have been nice.


Plus dont show who gets facehugged just show the egg. Thats it.
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Post by: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 06:52:44 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 25, 2016, 05:46:07 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PM
ALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.

ALIEN did it before those tropes were as really established, and with a sense of mystery and style that you just can't pull off in 2016.  Pre-1980 horror films establish the tropes, 1980 (the year slasher films exploded on the film world) solidifies them and the rest of the 80's was spent building on those tropes to the point of cliche. 
I consider myself quite an aficionado of horror films... everything from expressionist German horror to Classic Universal and Hammer Studios films... to the classic horror movies of the 60's and 70's. And in my opinion, Alien/Ridley Scott DID make use of existing thriller/horror tropes. These did NOT start with Alien.

Yeah, Alien was dragged through the critical grinder for using many old tropes (splitting up search parties, cat scares, etc) that were instantly recognisable (and quite old hat) to audiences in the 70's. Since Alien became the benchmark, younger fans just don't have the same perspective and don't recognise that much of the film was repurposed from older material.

No, they were to critics and film fans/buffs, not to general audience members who might see a few films a year.  To the general viewing audiences those tropes still had some life left in them.  Again, it goes back to home video.  Everything changes when you go from being able to see what is at the theatre or what happens to be playing on TV that evening (and outside major metropolitan areas, this means you might get 3-5 TV channels and maybe a theatre, my home town of 60k in the 80's had 2 single screen and one double screen theatre till 1985 plus 2 drive-in seasonally, rarely did anything horror make it there in the 80's) to being able to rent at any time from a selection of thousands of movies.  As the general populations watches more their viewing IQ goes up, as does their expectations.  When you get to my generation, who rented movies by the truckload (I watched/rented maybe 5-10 movies a week as a child), you end up with a far more educated audience every quickly.

I won't say Alien didn't use tropes, just I excuse them a lot more because of the time period and because I think it brought some important ones to the table.
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Post by: TheBATMAN on Dec 25, 2016, 06:54:05 PM
It certainly hasn't blown me away to be honest. Whilst it isn't bad, it just feels to far disconnected to what the original Alien presented. I know we've only seen a glimpse, but it doesn't even feel like the same universe.

Instead of prequels, I wish now Prometheus had actually been a post-resurrection sequel exploring the Engineers.
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Post by: acrediblesource on Dec 25, 2016, 07:02:01 PM
I was thinking about that the effect of seeing the engineer in a state of fossilization made the engineers begging to be discovered.
That's far more dramatic than actually seeing the society of engineers dance about.
If they are all dead, we should just see remains of them. MY guess is that the trailer shown us the first act and not the second. The second by which we meet David. etc.etc.
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Post by: paradiselost on Dec 25, 2016, 07:08:36 PM
Long time lurker, 1st post:

My take on trailer: Just like everything else there will be thumbs up, and there will be thumbs down - no matter what. I personally liked it, but only after watching couple of times. Two main points:

1. This is just the 1st trailer - 1st part/hour of the movie.  Arrival, landing, spores and finally lander blowing forcing them to "step out".
2. Real Prometheus/Alien story is in the 2nd part for which there will be 2nd trailer.  Entering Citadel, finding David and his "chamber of horrors".  One of them is the alien egg, experiment for which David needed and finally found test rabbit. 

I also expect David to show them what happened with Engineers (remember stills of Engineer / Alien  massacre?) and how things got out of hand on Paradise.  What happens afterwards will be the 'real' meat of the movie.  I am very curious about Shaw story.  Has David put her in hibernation, or is she another of his experiments?  There might be some real foreshadowing here.  Noomi Rapace is not even on main screen actor list, yet she reportedly spent several weeks filming in Sydney.   I don't believe she will turn out to be alien queen, but I wouldn't be surprised if she is the only survivor from Covenant movie - and not Daniels, as most expect.  Along with Walter probably.

Another speculation -- Alien 5 has been delayed because it would spoil Covenant in some degree.  Reportedly script has "the most satisfying end to Alien saga".  Can it be that Ripley, Hicks and Nute end up on Paradise, where everything started by David' experiments with black goo.  So this is where Ripley will somehow find way to finally finish it for good.



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Post by: Prometheops on Dec 25, 2016, 07:08:59 PM
Really enjoyed the trailer, it's clear that they choosed to keep most of the movie a secret.
For those that complained about the spores, you should read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiocordyceps_unilateralis


Obviously Scott looked for something which exist on earth, much like some of the design of the deacon was based on the goblin shark.
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Post by: Hemi on Dec 25, 2016, 07:17:10 PM
Dunno...  For me it kinda made sense.  Specialy after Prometheus.  Tad more body horror,  which is great.  The whole spore thing I prepared for.  It's different kind of alien. Maybe not the alien we hoped for,  but it's an alternative I can live with.  It feels dirty and vile,  like an alien movie should feel.  I just hope we don't get the stupid dialogue and story inconsistencies that Prometheus had.  Maybe it will even change my mind on Prometheus, and create some sort of bridge between the two. I like Prometheus style and it looks like this new one will build upon that and make it more dirty.  Not a bad trailer tbh. Even the ending part was not the typical shower scene imo.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 07:22:05 PM
I'm feeling a lot of denial in people defending this trailer. Like it or not, that's your right. But don't try to justify poor production choices, okay?

PS: I'm not complaining about the use of spores. Just the overbaked CG portraying them.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Space7Horror on Dec 25, 2016, 07:24:18 PM
The trailer gave away too much, it should have been eerie and built up the mystery rather than show us all the death and destruction.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 07:26:27 PM
Quote from: Space7Horror on Dec 25, 2016, 07:24:18 PM
The trailer gave away too much, it should have been eerie and built up the mystery rather than show us all the death and destruction.

Oh, but otherwise how could we tell that Ridley's making a "ZOMG R-RATED FILM!!1™" without blood and guts and nudity and a random "f**k" thrown in the dialogue?

Oh yeah, those were all things they did to compensate for AVP being PG-13!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Space7Horror on Dec 25, 2016, 07:33:05 PM
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 07:26:27 PM
Quote from: Space7Horror on Dec 25, 2016, 07:24:18 PM
The trailer gave away too much, it should have been eerie and built up the mystery rather than show us all the death and destruction.

Oh, but otherwise how could we tell that Ridley's making a "ZOMG R-RATED FILM!!1™" without blood and guts and nudity and a random "f**k" thrown in the dialogue?

Oh yeah, those were all things they did to compensate for AVP being PG-13!

He easily could have left some blood and gore in the trailer but the whole damn thing was explosions and death, Im excited for the movie but am sad that I will see these scenes coming and wont be surprised.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 07:47:56 PM
The trailer did it's job. There's be ALIENS in this movie. I bitched about the lack of horror and scariness in Prometheus and Ridley just told me that he heard that moaning loud and clear. For me, I want terror and a decent set of tits. Second I want the vastness of Prometheus. The trailer and the unseen production photo leaks missing from the trailer tell me I'm getting all of it.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 07:52:34 PM
One thing I misses to say... I simply love how Weyland is approaching
David in that white room... that scene will be great. Guy Pearce could have been
great in Prometheus if they gave him a chance. His TED talks was monumental,
bad ass!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: D88M on Dec 25, 2016, 07:53:26 PM
wtf are all these complaints,  the trailer didnt show or say anything, we still know nothing, it looks good, more of a Alien prequel than Prometheus sequel, but here is hoping they answer the question left by the previous one,
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 07:54:04 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 07:47:56 PM
The trailer did it's job. There's be ALIENS in this movie. I bitched about the lack of horror and scariness in Prometheus and Ridley just told me that he heard that moaning loud and clear. For me, I want terror and a decent set of tits. Second I want the vastness of Prometheus. The trailer and the unseen production photo leaks missing from the trailer tell me I'm getting all of it.

It's this "blood 'n boobs" mentality that gets us sub-par shit like AVPR
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: XenoHunter99 on Dec 25, 2016, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 06:40:44 PM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:22 PMThe magic is gone. That's the most concise way to put it. I can wait for this on video and not miss anything.

Pretty bold claim considering you've seen all of 2 minutes of the film in clip format with no context whatsoever.

We have context and patterns of data going back decades. We have the trickle of stills with design work going back for months. I have seen nothing impressive or exciting in any the Covenant material. This trailer merely confirms my position. So far, seems more like, "Move along, nothing to see here."
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Space7Horror on Dec 25, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
Im down with a violent bloody and scary Alien film, which this trailer assures me it will be but it could have been done better, its a good trailer just I dont want to know when a terrifying alien creature is gonna bust through someones spinal chord and out their back. I also hope we get a bigger picture like prometheus started to lay down.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Hemi on Dec 25, 2016, 07:56:33 PM
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 07:22:05 PM


I'm feeling a lot of denial in people defending this trailer. Like it or not, that's your right. But don't try to justify poor production choices, okay?

Maybe I'm not defending it and actually like it??  Assumption is the mother of all fckups
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 08:01:33 PM
Quote
Maybe I'm not defending it and actually like it??  Assumption is the mother of all fckups

Hey
Quote
Like it or not, that's your right.
See what I did there?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Dec 25, 2016, 08:01:59 PM
Irony of this movie will be that the majority of the audience will
love it... Completely different situation from Prometheus.Core
fans expected flawless movie and endorsed the trailer, but they
ultimately were disappointed with the movie itself. Perhaps it will be
other way around this time.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 25, 2016, 08:08:56 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 05:34:19 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:58 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Dec 25, 2016, 02:57:43 PM
ALIEN explicitly made use of horror tropes; it's all about execution. We'll have to wait and see.

ALIEN did it before those tropes were as really established, and with a sense of mystery and style that you just can't pull off in 2016.  Pre-1980 horror films establish the tropes, 1980 (the year slasher films exploded on the film world) solidifies them and the rest of the 80's was spent building on those tropes to the point of cliche. 

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I consider myself quite an aficionado of horror films... everything from expressionist German horror to Classic Universal and Hammer Studios films... to the classic horror movies of the 60's and 70's. And in my opinion, Alien/Ridley Scott DID make use of existing thriller/horror tropes. These did NOT start with Alien.

So am I but we have to look at the date it came out in.  The average film-maker or viewer has next to zero access to this in a per-vhs beyond private screenings, or the films being played at a theatre or on TV.  Tropes I think more form in the days of VHS and with accessibility to these films.  Before that, most of these films were made in complete isolation.  They might not have started with Alien, but Alien is one of the last refining stages before they become established tropes.  In my mind, the watering down/becoming a overused cliche all has to do with the rise of VHS and horror film in the 1980's.  It might have existed before, but many filmmakers would have zero knowledge of it or ability to watch those films.  You also have to localize geography quite a bit as well, as screening of international horror films in the 70's we very few and very far between even in massive cities. 

Even Scott and Dan Obannon have claimed to have never seen "Planet of the Vampires" when ALIEN was made (a claim i do not believe but they still claimed it).

I think technology/time frame has more to do with the rise of tropes/cliche than anything else.  I'm more likely to go easy on a film that dates before 1980 than I am during the Home Video revolution.
I'm still not sure I'd agree. Ridley Scott knew exactly what he was doing when he used half light, smoke, hissing cats, close shots etc. etc. when making the original Alien. He was using all the techniques/tropes of previous films/filmmakers to create suspense (which is what good filmmakers usually do). What I think has changed is...

1) There are more products/films out there now. Every other film is a big budget thriller... so by definition it's harder for any film to stand out in a crowd/competitive market. A good thriller usually uses the same tropes as a bad thriller. The difference being that they are usually better executed in terms of cinematic language/context.

2) Related to the above... With the increase in volume of products/films, there is a risk of a deterioration in the skills (or less emphasis placed on those skills) in order to push films to market too quickly. Thus some filmmakers resort to tropes without understanding their cinematic context. Which is why there are many examples of modern filmmakers equating suspense/thrills to just 'jump'/'boo' moments... which is usually the default position of lesser filmmakers. 
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: vortep on Dec 25, 2016, 08:17:19 PM
Can some one give and a download link for the trailer in 1080p?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Nightlord on Dec 25, 2016, 08:18:06 PM
I'm intrigued anyway, seems to be a pretty basic setup and everyone knows there's aliens for definite. Visuals look fine, though for the first thing you see on an alien planet grass and barley/wheat plants ain't that exotic. Showing character deaths in the trailer was dumb too, but whatever.  Compared to Prometheus this looks like it may explain stuff, or at least try to give some origin for the usual alien and that's fine by me. 

Only major annoyance is the lack of space suits again, why does Ridley hate them so much?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: D88M on Dec 25, 2016, 08:42:02 PM
so, teh Alien in the shower is not the original creature with the biomechanical design from 1979, but a new variation? the poster made it look like we would see the original Alien for the first time since 79, but the one in the trailer for the very little it could be seen it looks pretty different


Quote from: vortep on Dec 25, 2016, 08:17:19 PM
Can some one give and a download link for the trailer in 1080p?

just look for any site that can download youtube videos, select HD quality and voila, you should try 4k Downloader
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Hemi on Dec 25, 2016, 08:53:14 PM
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 08:01:33 PM
Quote
Maybe I'm not defending it and actually like it??  Assumption is the mother of all fckups

Hey
Quote
Like it or not, that's your right.
See what I did there?

Yeah...  "like it or not,  I still say you are defending poor production stuff.. Bla bla"  or "like it or not,  that's your right... But you stink anyway and you have a poopmouth".  Nice cover there. 😁
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 25, 2016, 08:53:49 PM
i liked that recut of the trailer with the siren... i think it was a bit more creepy than the official trailer, but im just a sucker for that scream/siren sound as far sound production goes :)

i still think there are too many people complaining about it though. the film looks amazing and were still only seeing a small fraction of a huge picture :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Nostromo on Dec 25, 2016, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 02:42:14 PM
I'm SHOCKED at all the complaining I see on various boards. This was honestly better than I expected, the acting looks fantastic, the cinematography - about which people whine everywhere I look now  - honestly looks great to me - dark and gritty but also very beautiful (the shots of the environment of the planet) and that opening scene was tense as hell. Fantastic trailer!
Exactly, not sure what all the friggin wanking is about?? wtf does one want to see? This movie looks like it will have so much good sh!t in it...wankers!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 08:58:35 PM
So we mostly saw just stuff from the 1st act, right? Except the shower scene...but that seems a bit odd. Your fellow crew members just got killed by some space crap and you wanna have sex in the shower?:D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:06:20 PM
This isn't good. This isn't big. This is ...

E P I C !

Scott doesn't take prisoners!

On almost every lever A:C gonna be better than Prometheus. Visuals and cinematography (look at those colours!) look stunning. Production design (look at those details) is utterly amazing. Acting is tense and real. Didn't expect to see something like that. I bet it's gonna be the best Alien movie so far.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 25, 2016, 09:07:12 PM
Its what us fans do best.

At first we liked it briefly. Then we watched again and are finding things we don't like. That MUST mean we don't like it at all. We then blow it out of proportion and the trailer proceeds to become trash. The fans that haven't blown those tidbits out of proportion and admit to liking parts of the trailer are then called out for having a shit opinion.

I liked the trailer for the most part.
But I didn't like them showing Crudup's character getting face hugged and I didn't like that shower scene at all but hopefully with context those will improve.

Outside of the trailer, I am still annoyed by the weapon choices, AR15s, etc.


Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 08:58:35 PM
So we mostly saw just stuff from the 1st act, right? Except the shower scene...but that seems a bit odd. Your fellow crew members just got killed by some space crap and you wanna have sex in the shower?:D

That is probably from the first act. It might even be the first kill by a Xeno (not including any chest/back bursting.)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 25, 2016, 09:09:35 PM
I didn't realize that was Crudup in the egg scene. The Covenant crew is doubly f**ked, there's a Doctor Manhattan xeno running around.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 25, 2016, 09:07:12 PM
Its what us fans do best.

At first we liked it briefly. Then we watched again and are finding things we don't like. That MUST mean we don't like it at all. We then blow it out of proportion and the trailer proceeds to become trash. The fans that haven't blown those tidbits out of proportion and admit to liking parts of the trailer are then called out for having a shit opinion.

I liked the trailer for the most part.
But I didn't like them showing Crudup's character getting face hugged and I didn't like that shower scene at all but hopefully with context those will improve.

Outside of the trailer, I am still annoyed by the weapon choices, AR15s, etc.


Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 08:58:35 PM
So we mostly saw just stuff from the 1st act, right? Except the shower scene...but that seems a bit odd. Your fellow crew members just got killed by some space crap and you wanna have sex in the shower?:D

That is probably from the first act. It might even be the first kill by a Xeno (not including any chest/back bursting.)

Spoiler
So that is the protoxeno that is already there and not the one that gets out of the facehugged dude?
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 09:26:52 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 25, 2016, 09:07:12 PM
Its what us fans do best.

At first we liked it briefly. Then we watched again and are finding things we don't like. That MUST mean we don't like it at all. We then blow it out of proportion and the trailer proceeds to become trash. The fans that haven't blown those tidbits out of proportion and admit to liking parts of the trailer are then called out for having a shit opinion.

I liked the trailer for the most part.
But I didn't like them showing Crudup's character getting face hugged and I didn't like that shower scene at all but hopefully with context those will improve.

Outside of the trailer, I am still annoyed by the weapon choices, AR15s, etc.


Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 08:58:35 PM
So we mostly saw just stuff from the 1st act, right? Except the shower scene...but that seems a bit odd. Your fellow crew members just got killed by some space crap and you wanna have sex in the shower?:D

That is probably from the first act. It might even be the first kill by a Xeno (not including any chest/back bursting.)

Spoiler
So that is the protoxeno that is already there and not the one that gets out of the facehugged dude?
[close]
So there are neomorphs? protomorphs? and xenomorphs? in this movie?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:28:47 PM
Neomorphs and proto-Xenomorphs.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 25, 2016, 09:30:07 PM
It's interesting. Some people think Covenant looks amazing and some others think it looks cheap.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 25, 2016, 09:30:28 PM
Neomorphs, eh. That explains the slow mo spores, then. 8) ;)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:28:47 PM
Neomorphs and proto-Xenomorphs.

And whatever gets out of Curdup right? Or is that the proto-Xenomorph?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 25, 2016, 09:30:07 PM
It's interesting. Some people think Covenant looks amazing and some others think it looks cheap.

Cheap? Seriously? :) Cannot believe that. Visuals and production designs are so much better that in Prometheus.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: stroggificated on Dec 25, 2016, 09:35:24 PM
Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Dec 25, 2016, 05:07:22 PM
The magic is gone. That's the most concise way to put it. I can wait for this on video and not miss anything. I'm happy for the people who are hyped for this. I hope it's not another turd, but the more they show, the less I care about it. I'll monitor its progress in the hope that I'm wrong. But so far, this thing is not thrilling me.

Yup, the magic is gone, because everyone who touches the Alien Franchise is incompetent. INCOMPETENT!
Another franchise burned for me. Oh well...
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 25, 2016, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:28 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
Makes Prometheus completely redundant. If there is nothing revealed about the engineer culture. So what happened to Shaw......

Remember there's another 2 films after this.

Is there?  I mean do you have this confirmed?  I also recall this being stated by Ridley Scott a while back, but I couldn't tell if that was just an off-the-cuff remark or not.  Lately, we've just been hearing that there will be 1 more, plus Neil Blomkamp's film.  Do you know this as a fact from a reliable source?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:28:47 PM
Neomorphs and proto-Xenomorphs.

And whatever gets out of Curdup right? Or is that the proto-Xenomorph?

I don't know but following logic I assume that:

Spores = Neomorphs
Egg/Facehugger = proto-Xeno
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 09:38:11 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:32:32 PMAnd whatever gets out of Curdup right? Or is that the proto-Xenomorph?

The Neomorphs sound like they are the Xenomorph progenitors.

Ridley's already said the traditional Alien will be in the film as well.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:40:26 PM
Quote from: stroggificated on Dec 25, 2016, 09:35:24 PM
Yup, the magic is gone, because everyone who touches the Alien Franchise is incompetent. INCOMPETENT!
Another franchise burned for me. Oh well...

No offence ladies and gentleman but some of you need a treatment for pessimism. Are you ever happy in your life? :) I don't want to be mean but how can you judge a movie by its trailer. I think that trailer is amazing and movie is gonna be even better. Now you say that I'm judging movie by the trailer. Yes I do. But I do it with optimism because it's bloody stunning.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:40:48 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:28:47 PM
Neomorphs and proto-Xenomorphs.

And whatever gets out of Curdup right? Or is that the proto-Xenomorph?

I don't know but following logic I assume that:

Spores = Neomorphs
Egg/Facehugger = proto-Xeno

So trying to figure out the sequence of events...Curdup gets facehugged, this thing gets out and it's the one that kills the people in the shower? And that is the so called protoxeno that later evolves to the one we see in Alien?

And going by the leaks
Spoiler
they said David saves the crew from neomorph and that's how they meet him. So there is one neomorph already there - did it get out of Shaw? That would be for the sake of consistency since we have two in the movie that get out of the crew of Covenant, neomorph that is previously there should have come out of a human host too.
[close]

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 25, 2016, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 25, 2016, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:28 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
Makes Prometheus completely redundant. If there is nothing revealed about the engineer culture. So what happened to Shaw......

Remember there's another 2 films after this.

Is there?  I mean do you have this confirmed?  I also recall this being stated by Ridley Scott a while back, but I couldn't tell if that was just an off-the-cuff remark or not.  Lately, we've just been hearing that there will be 1 more, plus Neil Blomkamp's film.  Do you know this as a fact from a reliable source?

Wayne Haag (Covenant production artist) confirmed in his recent interview that the idea was still to shoot two more Alien prequel films in Aussie. That's the latest we have on that.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 08:58:35 PM
So we mostly saw just stuff from the 1st act, right? Except the shower scene...but that seems a bit odd. Your fellow crew members just got killed by some space crap and you wanna have sex in the shower?:D

That's a good point. Maybe it had something to do with the info graphic from the black goo released a couple of months after prometheus that claimed that the ampules  was able to spread the black goo  either by ingestion of water that contained it or by inhaling it from air infected with it . ONE of the side affects of ingesting it was that it made people horny. Could be the cause.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:40:48 PM
And going by the leaks
Spoiler
they said David saves the crew from neomorph and that's how they meet him. So there is one neomorph already there - did it get out of Shaw? That would be for the sake of consistency since we have two in the movie that get out of the crew of Covenant, neomorph that is previously there should have come out of a human host too.
[close]

Neomorphs might (just my speculation) have come out from:

Spoiler
Engineers who have survived black goo Armageddon delivered by David or from Shaw herself or from animals living on the planet.
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:45:57 PMNeomorphs might (just my speculation) have come out from:

Spoiler
Engineers who have survived black goo Armageddon delivered by David or from Shaw herself or from animals living on the planet.
[close]

Neomorphs come out of the Covenant crew, after they're infected by the spores.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 25, 2016, 09:48:37 PM
So, speculating on what's been seen in the trailer...

Spoiler
Shaw crashed the ship onto the planet (insert woman driver joke here, Hubbs), leaking the goo all over the place and destroying Engineer society in the process. Well done, well done. :laugh:
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:45:57 PMNeomorphs might (just my speculation) have come out from:

Spoiler
Engineers who have survived black goo Armageddon delivered by David or from Shaw herself or from animals living on the planet.
[close]

Neomorphs come out of the Covenant crew, after they're infected by the spores.

The guy from 4chan wrote
Spoiler
there is one already there when the crew gets out of the ship. Maybe he was wrong, though
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 25, 2016, 09:48:37 PM
So, speculating on what's been seen in the trailer...

Spoiler
Shaw crashed the ship onto the planet (insert woman driver joke here, Hubbs), leaking the goo all over the place and destroying Engineer society in the process. Well done, well done. :laugh:
[close]

No.

Spoiler
David wipes out Engineers releasing black goo.
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 25, 2016, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:28 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
Makes Prometheus completely redundant. If there is nothing revealed about the engineer culture. So what happened to Shaw......

Remember there's another 2 films after this.

Is there?  I mean do you have this confirmed?  I also recall this being stated by Ridley Scott a while back, but I couldn't tell if that was just an off-the-cuff remark or not.  Lately, we've just been hearing that there will be 1 more, plus Neil Blomkamp's film.  Do you know this as a fact from a reliable source?
There's going to be 2 more, maybe a 3rd actually.... unless it bombs of course. NB's movie is unlikely to ever happen. I have no qualm proclaiming if it doesn't start production by 2018 it's absolutely dead. Disgustedly enough, NB's aliens is probably the back up plan.

Also, there isn't anything in this trailer that looks cheap. Prometheus might as well be the prologue with A:Covenant being the first act of a quintilogy or more precisely a trilogy with bookends. The rumored 4th film will probably tie straight into Prometheus.

Spoiler
If the alien came from a spore cocoon then that could mean they are a naturally evolving life form who was harvested as a weapon by the engineers. The planet could be paradise and the tree of knowledge may be quite literal, eat from the fruit and attain vast knowledge. The black goo seems capable of this feat. Of course the side effect is the alien.

However there are 2 neomorphs in the movie. The one in the lander and one outside, who then runs into the woods. Who knows when he comes back into the story. We all assume the black alien is the facehugger breed beast.

One thing I have to be honest about, that 4chan leaker must have been bs. Cause how the hell can David drop death and then not land the ship. I don't buy a last minute defense where they shot him down. The mofo crashed on purpose more than anything or at least in a fight with Shaw for the controls.
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: Hemi on Dec 25, 2016, 08:53:14 PM
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 08:01:33 PM
Quote
Maybe I'm not defending it and actually like it??  Assumption is the mother of all fckups

Hey
Quote
Like it or not, that's your right.
See what I did there?

Yeah...  "like it or not,  I still say you are defending poor production stuff.. Bla bla"  or "like it or not,  that's your right... But you stink anyway and you have a poopmouth".  Nice cover there. 😁

Um... did I insult anyone? No. I'm mostly seeing insults from the folks defending the trailer. (See the "wanker" comment above this post)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:56:46 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 25, 2016, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:45:57 PMNeomorphs might (just my speculation) have come out from:

Spoiler
Engineers who have survived black goo Armageddon delivered by David or from Shaw herself or from animals living on the planet.
[close]

Neomorphs come out of the Covenant crew, after they're infected by the spores.

The guy from 4chan wrote
Spoiler
there is one already there when the crew gets out of the ship. Maybe he was wrong, though
[close]

You might be right. I don't remember everything what 4chan has written.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: reecebomb on Dec 25, 2016, 09:57:10 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 09:06:20 PM
This isn't good. This isn't big. This is ...

E P I C !

Scott doesn't take prisoners!

On almost every lever A:C gonna be better than Prometheus. Visuals and cinematography (look at those colours!) look stunning. Production design (look at those details) is utterly amazing. Acting is tense and real. Didn't expect to see something like that. I bet it's gonna be the best Alien movie so far.

LOL











I hope you're right tho, that would indeed be epic.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: Hemi on Dec 25, 2016, 08:53:14 PM
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 08:01:33 PM
Quote
Maybe I'm not defending it and actually like it??  Assumption is the mother of all fckups

Hey
Quote
Like it or not, that's your right.
See what I did there?

Yeah...  "like it or not,  I still say you are defending poor production stuff.. Bla bla"  or "like it or not,  that's your right... But you stink anyway and you have a poopmouth".  Nice cover there. 😁

Um... did I insult anyone? No. I'm mostly seeing insults from the folks defending the trailer. (See the "wanker" comment above this post)
Truth and insults can mean the same thing to each side.

Like how you said my claiming to want violence and tits gets us AVPr crap. Hell that hurt man. Crap sfx guys thrown into the directors seat got us AVPr. Not the tits! :P
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 25, 2016, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:28 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
Makes Prometheus completely redundant. If there is nothing revealed about the engineer culture. So what happened to Shaw......

Remember there's another 2 films after this.

Is there?  I mean do you have this confirmed?  I also recall this being stated by Ridley Scott a while back, but I couldn't tell if that was just an off-the-cuff remark or not.  Lately, we've just been hearing that there will be 1 more, plus Neil Blomkamp's film.  Do you know this as a fact from a reliable source?
There's going to be 2 more, maybe a 3rd actually.... unless it bombs of course. NB's movie is unlikely to ever happen. I have no qualm proclaiming if it doesn't start production by 2018 it's absolutely dead. Disgustedly enough, NB's aliens is probably the back up plan.

Also, there isn't anything in this trailer that looks cheap. Prometheus might as well be the prologue with A:Covenant being the first act of a quintilogy or more precisely a trilogy with bookends. The rumored 4th film will probably tie straight into Prometheus.

Spoiler
If the alien came from a spore cocoon then that could mean they are a naturally evolving life form who was harvested as a weapon by the engineers. The planet could be paradise and the tree of knowledge may be quite literal, eat from the fruit and attain vast knowledge. The black goo seems capable of this feat. Of course the side effect is the alien.

However there are 2 neomorphs in the movie. The one in the lander and one outside, who then runs into the woods. Who knows when he comes back into the story. We all assume the black alien is the facehugger breed beast.

One thing I have to be honest about, that 4chan leaker must have been bs. Cause how the hell can David drop death and then not land the ship. I don't buy a last minute defense where they shot him down. The mofo crashed on purpose more than anything or at least in a fight with Shaw for the controls.
[close]
I think Ridley told Blomkamp to wait because Ridleys plans could contradict Blomkamps story or vision on the alien.

And the spores i think are simple wildlife flora that has come in contact with the black goo, our first xeno plant :D instead of impregnating other plants/spores with simple flower stuff it impregnates anything that can give birth.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 10:03:38 PM
Quote from: D88M on Dec 25, 2016, 08:42:02 PM
so, teh Alien in the shower is not the original creature with the biomechanical design from 1979, but a new variation? the poster made it look like we would see the original Alien for the first time since 79, but the one in the trailer for the very little it could be seen it looks pretty different


Quote from: vortep on Dec 25, 2016, 08:17:19 PM
Can some one give and a download link for the trailer in 1080p?

just look for any site that can download youtube videos, select HD quality and voila, you should try 4k Downloader

Remember that 1080p is downloaded with no audio. Look for a browser that allows you to join them . That means you will have to download the audio separately. 
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Mr.Turok on Dec 25, 2016, 10:07:00 PM
I saw on the Youtube comment section of folks getting mad that it isn't Prometheus 2....

First mad that Prometheus wasn't an Alien Film and now this...

Forget them, I'm hype for this new movie! But now looking at it more, does this mean that Alien is no longer the first time humanity truly contacted the xenomorphs or did I miss something there?!

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Also, there isn't anything in this trailer that looks cheap.

I cannot believe that some people say it looks cheap.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 10:10:48 PM
Feels cheap. The opening of the trailer could belong to any number of low budget sci fi horrors.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 10:16:13 PM
Quote from: vortep on Dec 25, 2016, 08:17:19 PM
Can some one give and a download link for the trailer in 1080p?

Go to www.deturl.com and paste  the youtube video URL  into the download field. Then click the download button. Scroll down and you will find many video download sites that will have the links the desired formats for you. 1080p will be video only with no audio and yoy will have to download the audio separately and join them afterwards. Perhaps someone here knows of quick way to join them.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: motherfather on Dec 25, 2016, 10:16:49 PM
Ive watched the trailer a few times now. At least we now know that the giant tree stumps were actually normal giant trees until the flying croissant carved its way through the trees when it crash landed. I wonder if theres anything that can be inferred from the trajectory  at which the ship seems to have crash landed.

The very brief glimpse of the inside of that ship shows some kind of organic detail/veiny structure draped over the corner of the juggernaut control panel near the chair. Or it could just be moss/vine growth.

Overall I'm quite happy so far. The only things that bug me are the shower scene (looks like something that belongs in AVP Requiem along with expectant mothers being rapidly birthed in the hospital maternity ward) and the blue-ish filter added to everything that seems so cold and sterile and clean and Prometheus-y most times. In the grand scheme of things, these are minor points, and I am so happy this doesn't seem to be another Engineer movie.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 10:22:33 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Also, there isn't anything in this trailer that looks cheap.

I cannot believe that some people say it looks cheap.
People who claim it to be cheap likely are... well you know what I mean.

Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 25, 2016, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:28 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
Makes Prometheus completely redundant. If there is nothing revealed about the engineer culture. So what happened to Shaw......

Remember there's another 2 films after this.

Is there?  I mean do you have this confirmed?  I also recall this being stated by Ridley Scott a while back, but I couldn't tell if that was just an off-the-cuff remark or not.  Lately, we've just been hearing that there will be 1 more, plus Neil Blomkamp's film.  Do you know this as a fact from a reliable source?
There's going to be 2 more, maybe a 3rd actually.... unless it bombs of course. NB's movie is unlikely to ever happen. I have no qualm proclaiming if it doesn't start production by 2018 it's absolutely dead. Disgustedly enough, NB's aliens is probably the back up plan.

Also, there isn't anything in this trailer that looks cheap. Prometheus might as well be the prologue with A:Covenant being the first act of a quintilogy or more precisely a trilogy with bookends. The rumored 4th film will probably tie straight into Prometheus.

Spoiler
If the alien came from a spore cocoon then that could mean they are a naturally evolving life form who was harvested as a weapon by the engineers. The planet could be paradise and the tree of knowledge may be quite literal, eat from the fruit and attain vast knowledge. The black goo seems capable of this feat. Of course the side effect is the alien.

However there are 2 neomorphs in the movie. The one in the lander and one outside, who then runs into the woods. Who knows when he comes back into the story. We all assume the black alien is the facehugger breed beast.

One thing I have to be honest about, that 4chan leaker must have been bs. Cause how the hell can David drop death and then not land the ship. I don't buy a last minute defense where they shot him down. The mofo crashed on purpose more than anything or at least in a fight with Shaw for the controls.
[close]
I think Ridley told Blomkamp to wait because Ridleys plans could contradict Blomkamps story or vision on the alien.

And the spores i think are simple wildlife flora that has come in contact with the black goo, our first xeno plant :D instead of impregnating other plants/spores with simple flower stuff it impregnates anything that can give birth.
I think it's safe to assume they would have contradicted each other but yea I can live with the wild life being affected by the goo. Hell maybe it is true that David dumps the goo onto the engineers and the world is still in a state of evolution. It would be less than 10 years since the bombing run.

However the thing that I love about it is that the alien in this movie is not only alien to us humans but very much alien to the alien itself. I want the alien to be almost divine but not literally. It's hard to explain without it sounding condescending. The earlier Prometheus concept art had a ceiling clinging alien that dropped into the mouth of an unsuspecting and unconscious person. That is what I wanted to see. The alien looks like us because it was born from us, however on an alien world it wouldn't be surprising if it was completely unrecognizable. The spore pod is a direct take off of that. I like stuff like that.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 25, 2016, 10:07:00 PM
I saw on the Youtube comment section of folks getting mad that it isn't Prometheus 2....

First mad that Prometheus wasn't an Alien Film and now this...

Forget them, I'm hype for this new movie!

Yeah. Forget them. Some people cannot be satisfied.


Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 10:10:48 PM
Feels cheap. The opening of the trailer could belong to any number of low budget sci fi horrors.

It's Alien movie. What do you want? If Alien (1979) was made today and you have seen chestburster scene you would probably had said the same.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 25, 2016, 10:41:44 PM
Ingwar I agree except it probably won't be better than Alien and Aliens but maybe on the same level imo.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 25, 2016, 10:07:00 PM
I saw on the Youtube comment section of folks getting mad that it isn't Prometheus 2....

First mad that Prometheus wasn't an Alien Film and now this...

Forget them, I'm hype for this new movie!

Yeah. Forget them. Some people cannot be satisfied.


Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 10:10:48 PM
Feels cheap. The opening of the trailer could belong to any number of low budget sci fi horrors.

It's Alien movie. What do you want? If Alien (1979) was made today and you have seen chestburster scene you would probably had said the same.

yes, because if it was made today it would be CG.  Also, you'd never get a script like Alien 1979 off the ground in 2016, and the creative forces behind it would be far far different.  Alien is a classic because of the period it was made, you can't take it out of that time.  You have to have a young and hungry Scott, a broken Dan Obannon, and a fairly unknown giger onboard to make it what it is.  Heavy Metal has to be a hugely popular subculture magazine.  So, yeah, Alien (1979) in 2016 would probably look like a cheap mess.

Oh, and Moebius because Moebius is a f**king genius.

-------------------------------

Unrelated; I tried to watch the trailer again.  I hate the song so much I shut it off.  Hopefully next trailer will have score element, because I cannot stand that piece of music.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 10:42:07 PM
Unrelated; I tried to watch the trailer again.  I hate the song so much I shut it off.  Hopefully next trailer will have score element, because I cannot stand that piece of music.

It's just a song. Very good one by the way. You don't like it? Fine. Turn the music off.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: ep40 on Dec 25, 2016, 10:50:11 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 10:22:33 PM
However the thing that I love about it is that the alien in this movie is not only alien to us humans but very much alien to the alien itself. I want the alien to be almost divine but not literally. It's hard to explain without it sounding condescending. The earlier Prometheus concept art had a ceiling clinging alien that dropped into the mouth of an unsuspecting and unconscious person. That is what I wanted to see. The alien looks like us because it was born from us, however on an alien world it wouldn't be surprising if it was completely unrecognizable. The spore pod is a direct take off of that. I like stuff like that.
That's why I think that Prometheus despite it's flaws is a worthy addition to Alien mythos. Before Prometheus any Alien related content only repeated what was shown in movies e.g. egg->facehugger->chestburster->adult alien. Even if they tried something new, mostly it was ridiculous, like the Newborn or Chet regurgiration. Through Prometheus we were introduced to the black goo which opened up new possibilities like Neomorphs, which doesn't seem contrived, they seem like alternative pathways of evolution instead of messing with original strain of Alien. Previously Alien life cycle seemed to be established and rigid, only deviating in very specific circumstances like A:R queen having additional human DNA due to genetic engineering. Now going to roots and possibly exploring origins of Alien, we have opportunity to introduce new concepts and give the Alien new, suprising elements to its lifecycle without it being out of place.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: DarkXeno on Dec 25, 2016, 10:50:43 PM
 ;D Woke up knowing this cam out today. 8)  F-'n loved it. I feel like this is taken the right direction and its gonna be spectacular. Dark, gritty, gothic f'n Alien movie made with the newest stuff. We're here, we're geared, and ready to kick some Alien ass!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 25, 2016, 10:51:19 PM
Harequinade regarding the sex scene, you mean just like Janek decided to have sex with Vickers after she torched one of the crewmembers in Prometheus? Or Shaw who decided to have sex with Holloway right after she was humiliated and started to cry?
That is the definition of odd, but then again that whole film sucked.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: Hemi on Dec 25, 2016, 08:53:14 PM
Quote from: Burn the Floor on Dec 25, 2016, 08:01:33 PM
Quote
Maybe I'm not defending it and actually like it??  Assumption is the mother of all fckups

Hey
Quote
Like it or not, that's your right.
See what I did there?

Yeah...  "like it or not,  I still say you are defending poor production stuff.. Bla bla"  or "like it or not,  that's your right... But you stink anyway and you have a poopmouth".  Nice cover there. 😁

Um... did I insult anyone? No. I'm mostly seeing insults from the folks defending the trailer. (See the "wanker" comment above this post)
Truth and insults can mean the same thing to each side.

Like how you said my claiming to want violence and tits gets us AVPr crap. Hell that hurt man. Crap sfx guys thrown into the directors seat got us AVPr. Not the tits! :P

Actually Fox green lighting a shit script by Shane Salerno is what got us AvPR.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 10:56:48 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 10:22:33 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Also, there isn't anything in this trailer that looks cheap.

I cannot believe that some people say it looks cheap.
People who claim it to be cheap likely are... well you know what I mean.

Quote from: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 25, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 25, 2016, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 25, 2016, 07:11:28 AM
Quote from: oduodu on Dec 25, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
Makes Prometheus completely redundant. If there is nothing revealed about the engineer culture. So what happened to Shaw......

Remember there's another 2 films after this.

Is there?  I mean do you have this confirmed?  I also recall this being stated by Ridley Scott a while back, but I couldn't tell if that was just an off-the-cuff remark or not.  Lately, we've just been hearing that there will be 1 more, plus Neil Blomkamp's film.  Do you know this as a fact from a reliable source?
There's going to be 2 more, maybe a 3rd actually.... unless it bombs of course. NB's movie is unlikely to ever happen. I have no qualm proclaiming if it doesn't start production by 2018 it's absolutely dead. Disgustedly enough, NB's aliens is probably the back up plan.

Also, there isn't anything in this trailer that looks cheap. Prometheus might as well be the prologue with A:Covenant being the first act of a quintilogy or more precisely a trilogy with bookends. The rumored 4th film will probably tie straight into Prometheus.

Spoiler
If the alien came from a spore cocoon then that could mean they are a naturally evolving life form who was harvested as a weapon by the engineers. The planet could be paradise and the tree of knowledge may be quite literal, eat from the fruit and attain vast knowledge. The black goo seems capable of this feat. Of course the side effect is the alien.

However there are 2 neomorphs in the movie. The one in the lander and one outside, who then runs into the woods. Who knows when he comes back into the story. We all assume the black alien is the facehugger breed beast.

One thing I have to be honest about, that 4chan leaker must have been bs. Cause how the hell can David drop death and then not land the ship. I don't buy a last minute defense where they shot him down. The mofo crashed on purpose more than anything or at least in a fight with Shaw for the controls.
[close]
I think Ridley told Blomkamp to wait because Ridleys plans could contradict Blomkamps story or vision on the alien.

And the spores i think are simple wildlife flora that has come in contact with the black goo, our first xeno plant :D instead of impregnating other plants/spores with simple flower stuff it impregnates anything that can give birth.
I think it's safe to assume they would have contradicted each other but yea I can live with the wild life being affected by the goo. Hell maybe it is true that David dumps the goo onto the engineers and the world is still in a state of evolution. It would be less than 10 years since the bombing run.

However the thing that I love about it is that the alien in this movie is not only alien to us humans but very much alien to the alien itself. I want the alien to be almost divine but not literally. It's hard to explain without it sounding condescending. The earlier Prometheus concept art had a ceiling clinging alien that dropped into the mouth of an unsuspecting and unconscious person. That is what I wanted to see. The alien looks like us because it was born from us, however on an alien world it wouldn't be surprising if it was completely unrecognizable. The spore pod is a direct take off of that. I like stuff like that.
Remember that beginning on Alien ressurrection with the little xeno bug? i think you call it a ladybug in English.
imagine if the black goo also can infect small insects, what hell it could bring if you pour it out on a field on Earth.

Yes i always had that phantasy before Prometheus when the engineer was still the mysterious space jockey,
so undefined and strange, i thought we would see a whole world of weird things that contradicted our logic and world.
But now Giger is gone and Lindelof leprechaun had its way with Prometheus and Ridley close to becoming a fossil himself,
i doubt we will ever see something so weird again, unless you get a passionate geek director who willl know his way around that universe and stuff.
But maybe the goo David dropped wasnt goo but something that burned the engineers, i think if it was the goo then the engineers should have become even more dangerous to David because of changing into a Fifield thing,
so why would the engineers die from the goo, can too much goo kill you? sounds like a good song for an engineer: too much goo can kill you.
I hope to see something undefined again in the alien universe, like the monolith in space stuff and the space jockey,
shit that is so out of place that its mesmerizing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 10:57:42 PM
Quote from: Murph Morph on Dec 25, 2016, 10:51:19 PM
Harequinade regarding the sex scene, you mean just like Janek decided to have sex with Vickers after she torched one of the crewmembers in Prometheus? Or Shaw who decided to have sex with Holloway right after she was humiliated and started to cry?
That is the definition of odd, but then again that whole film sucked.

I don't see why they need to repeat the 'odd' scenes from Prometheus here. Hence me wondering when the scene takes place.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:58:49 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 10:10:48 PM
Feels cheap. The opening of the trailer could belong to any number of low budget sci fi horrors.

If this is cheap then I'm Papa Emeritus ;)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-029.jpg)

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: BA79 on Dec 25, 2016, 11:02:11 PM
There seems to be hope! This looks much better than Prometheus. The kind of Alien film we want may just be here. Will there be more answered questions, instead of just more questions...like with Prometheus? That would be great. But, if this just creates more questions about the Alien's origin, let us all hope it is just being held back for a full reveal and a huge "A-HA!" in the next film Ridley Scott has promised.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 11:02:36 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
It's Alien movie. What do you want?
Prometheus didn't feel cheap watching the trailer. Shit, AvP didn't.

Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:58:49 PM
If this is cheap then I'm Papa Emeritus ;)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-029.jpg)
You're doing a fantastically good job of missing the point.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 11:10:25 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 11:02:36 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:58:49 PM
If this is cheap then I'm Papa Emeritus ;)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-029.jpg)
You're doing a fantastically good job of missing the point.

You're doing a fantastically good job of grumbling. Don't stop please. The funniest thing is that you are gonna pay a ticket to see this "cheap" film in cinema.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: flacerda on Dec 25, 2016, 11:14:00 PM
Hi, new guy here, big fan of Alien, big time lurker, but now that the new trailer popped I decided to "burst" into the community.

So I've seen the trailer numerous times already and have become quite fond of it, although I had a bittersweet taste in my mouth the first time I laid my eyes upon it this morning. That aside I think its a pretty damn fine trailer, and it did satisfy my hunger for footage and did hype me for the film.

I have read people ranting about a non existent slow-mo sequence in this trailer, you're all saying its slow-mo because the shot is focused on the floating and morphing spore heading into the guy's ear, when you can clearly notice the guy is smoking a cigarette and his motion seems as natural as it can be. So, I guess that's it for all the negativity regarding the "matrix-spore" spore shot.

I do like the shower scene a lot. The creeping shadow of the Alien slowly and silently moving behind the couple is stuff straight out of the '79 Alien film, not to mention the obvious tail between the legs shot. Design wise (Shower scene Alien) it does look very reminiscent of the Big Chap. The tail looks exactly the same, and although you can't quite make out the entire creature (I like that) I made this comparison with a still from the original Alien that shows some similarities with the lower jaw of the "New Chap". Check it out for yourselves bellow.

(https://s28.postimg.org/etrvjzd25/bigchap.jpg)
(https://s23.postimg.org/9ofyq2kff/newchap.jpg)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Infected on Dec 25, 2016, 11:18:43 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 11:10:25 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 11:02:36 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:58:49 PM
If this is cheap then I'm Papa Emeritus ;)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-029.jpg)
You're doing a fantastically good job of missing the point.

You're doing a fantastically good job of grumbling. Don't stop please. The funniest thing is that you are gonna pay a ticket to see this "cheap" film in cinema.
And the even more funny part is that you are here on a christmas eve grumbling about a movie that looks cheap and you do it,
on a paid internet connection, so whats the difference? blaming others for the same thing you do, only the others will have a fine night at the movie theater, and you? you will go to bed this night and still feeling hatefull and grumbling in your dreams.
And dont forget you pay for all this, all this is for you my son, you paid for this what you are seeing and doing, if i where you i would go somewhere where i would feel nice and have fun, shit i have to pay so it better feel good to me.
Or else whats it worth eh? ;)
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Post by: THE CITY HUNTER on Dec 25, 2016, 11:22:41 PM
What did you guys think of the trailer I don't know there's something about it I don't like?
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Post by: proto leech on Dec 25, 2016, 11:31:09 PM
Quote from: Murph Morph on Dec 25, 2016, 10:51:19 PM
you mean just like Janek decided to have sex with Vickers after she torched one of the crewmembers in Prometheus?

that happened the night BEFORE she torches holloway. did you even watch the movie?

QuoteOr Shaw who decided to have sex with Holloway right after she was humiliated and started to cry?

she wanted comfort from her partner after she felt very vulnerable about herself, that and the day she had was quite physically and emotionally stressful i'd think. he didn't humiliate her, he wasn't even speaking of her she made the connection to herself and her insecurities and he immediately apologized.



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Post by: Scorpio on Dec 25, 2016, 11:37:00 PM
This trailer doesn't look cheap to me, it looks like gritty European scifi.  I know some of you expect more Hollywood polish, but I'm really happy with this direction.  The best movies in the franchise are very low tech (Alien 3 is almost medieval). 
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Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 25, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
There's actually no evidence, even in the leaks, that
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David in any way creates the xenomorphs, much less that the Derelict from the original film will wind up being he and Shaw.
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Post by: Xan21 on Dec 25, 2016, 11:43:30 PM
Looks like nothing new... expected much more
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Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 11:43:44 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 10:10:48 PM
Feels cheap. The opening of the trailer could belong to any number of low budget sci fi horrors.

How come they didn't just throw 200 million dollars at you to make this thing?
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Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 25, 2016, 11:47:53 PM

Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 25, 2016, 11:43:44 PM
How come they didn't just throw 200 million dollars at you to make this thing?
Because it would be quite humiliating and unlikely for Fox to admit that alien fans could make a better alien prequel than Ridley Scoot.


Quote from: Ultramorph on Dec 25, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
There's actually no evidence, even in the leaks, that
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David in any way creates the xenomorphs, much less that the Derelict from the original film will wind up being he and Shaw.
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Have you seen all 4chan leaks? One said the classic alien is biomechanical because David mixed his android dna or whatever I have no idea what it meant with the neomorphs that are "flesh" aliens, thus making the classic alien.
Ridley said the Prometheus sequels would lead to Alien and explain the origins of the aliens. How else could those movies lead to Alien? I think he meants he wants to explain how the ship from LV-426 crashed and how the aliens there were created.
I dont believe 100% in that, there are a lots of trolls in 4chan and they might change things until the final release.[a/spoiler]
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 25, 2016, 11:56:21 PM
King ghedoora oh ok but it still doesn't make sense that nobody takes action against Vickers afterwards, it's like nobody cared. I saw this film twice btw but it's been a while.
You seem like Prometheus maybe you can explain the following things;
- Why did Fifield and Milburn get lost despite them being in possession of advanced mapping technology?
- Why couldn't Vickers and Shaw run sideways to avoid the rolling juggernaut?
- How is it possible that Shaw- not only could stand up- but even run around and jump after having her abdominal muscles completely sliced apart?
- Why did Fifield and Milburn freak out when seeing an old corpse but then try to cuddle with an aggressive hissing snake?
- Why did Janek and his co-pilots so quickly decide to crash into the juggernaut without even caring?
- How did Shaw manage to fly the juggernaut?
- Why did she choose to cooperate with David after what he did and how he behaved towards her when she was pregnant?
- Why did Janek open the hangar bay door when something clearly deformed was waiting outside as pictured on the screens?
- How could Holloway possibly be disappointed after the discoveries they made on LV-223?

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Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 26, 2016, 12:13:48 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 25, 2016, 11:47:53 PM


Quote from: Ultramorph on Dec 25, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
There's actually no evidence, even in the leaks, that
Spoiler
David in any way creates the xenomorphs, much less that the Derelict from the original film will wind up being he and Shaw.
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Spoiler
Have you seen all 4chan leaks? One said the classic alien is biomechanical because David mixed his android dna or whatever I have no idea what it meant with the neomorphs that are "flesh" aliens, thus making the classic alien.
Ridley said the Prometheus sequels would lead to Alien and explain the origins of the aliens. How else could those movies lead to Alien? I think he meants he wants to explain how the ship from LV-426 crashed and how the aliens there were created.
I dont believe 100% in that, there are a lots of trolls in 4chan and they might change things until the final release.[a/spoiler]
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The 4chan leaks that Hicks have basically vouched for don't say that.
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They mention a "protomorph" but we just think that's the writer being a bit confused because the xeno in this movie acts more like an animal than the one in the first film, There's a different 4chan post about David mixing his mechanics with a pro-xenomorph, but that has been debunked.

Scott has said that he wants to eventually get around to showing how the Derelict wound up on LV-426, but that quote is a few years old at this point, and even if that's still his intention, it's highly unlikely he would do something so likely to upset fans as have it turn out to be Shaw.
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Post by: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 12:17:08 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 11:10:25 PM
You're doing a fantastically good job of grumbling. Don't stop please. The funniest thing is that you are gonna pay a ticket to see this "cheap" film in cinema.
Why are you so offended by my comment, exactly? You like the look it, sweet. You do you. Personally, I think this is a really poorly made trailer. I honestly think this will be one of the few times where a movie is better than the trailer. Why are you so upset by this?
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Post by: ep40 on Dec 26, 2016, 12:18:22 AM
Maybe instead of directly showing how the Derelict crashed etc... they want to show us new events which will metaphorically mirror what happened to Space Jockey thousands years ago?
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Post by: Infected on Dec 26, 2016, 12:23:59 AM
Quote from: Murph Morph on Dec 25, 2016, 11:56:21 PM
King ghedoora oh ok but it still doesn't make sense that nobody takes action against Vickers afterwards, it's like nobody cared. I saw this film twice btw but it's been a while.
You seem like Prometheus maybe you can explain the following things;
- Why did Fifield and Milburn get lost despite them being in possession of advanced mapping technology?
- Why couldn't Vickers and Shaw run sideways to avoid the rolling juggernaut?
- How is it possible that Shaw- not only could stand up- but even run around and jump after having her abdominal muscles completely sliced apart?
- Why did Fifield and Milburn freak out when seeing an old corpse but then try to cuddle with an aggressive hissing snake?
- Why did Janek and his co-pilots so quickly decide to crash into the juggernaut without even caring?
- How did Shaw manage to fly the juggernaut?
- Why did she choose to cooperate with David after what he did and how he behaved towards her when she was pregnant?
- Why did Janek open the hangar bay door when something clearly deformed was waiting outside as pictured on the screens?
- How could Holloway possibly be disappointed after the discoveries they made on LV-223?
How could she know that the engineer vessel had stuff onboard that could pose a threat to Earth? it wasnt very clear if the ampules where on board or in the engineer temple.
Why was Janek so sure that the Prometheus ship could withstand such a devilsh storm on a first encounter on an alien planet?
Why did everybody go to bed and nobody kept in touch with two crew members who where camping in an alien temple with dead giant alien engineers.
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 26, 2016, 12:42:17 AM
@Infected yeah I forgot those hahaha!  ;D
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 12:45:46 AM
It's weird. The trailer somehow feels epic and cheap. It feels like something Ridley wonder produce, not direct. Feels like his son's movie Morgan.
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Post by: fiveways on Dec 26, 2016, 12:58:07 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Dec 25, 2016, 10:42:07 PM
Unrelated; I tried to watch the trailer again.  I hate the song so much I shut it off.  Hopefully next trailer will have score element, because I cannot stand that piece of music.

It's just a song. Very good one by the way. You don't like it? Fine. Turn the music off.

Yeah, I disagree.  It's garbage to me.  Lousy voice, insipid and boring arrangement.  It's just awful.  It's everything I hate about music in a single go.  It's boring while pretending to be creative and cutting edge.  It's crap people in university used to listen to and think they were edgy.  Completely uninteresting.
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Post by: Rankles75 on Dec 26, 2016, 01:00:12 AM
I still don't see any reason why Shaw would have reattached David's head...
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Post by: fiveways on Dec 26, 2016, 01:02:27 AM
Quote from: Rankles75 on Dec 26, 2016, 01:00:12 AM
I still don't see any reason why Shaw would have reattached David's head...

that is the movie i want to see, the movie that convinces Shaw that reattaching David's head is a good idea...
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Post by: proto leech on Dec 26, 2016, 01:03:45 AM
Quoteit still doesn't make sense that nobody takes action against Vickers afterwards, it's like nobody cared. I saw this film twice btw but it's been a while.

because its a company-run mission on a company-run ship and its obvious that in space the rules of earth have little meaning. Weyland showed he could order the company mercs to kill effortlessly if he wished and everyone knew holloway was infected its not like it was unprovoked murder.

QuoteYou seem like Prometheus maybe you can explain the following things

i found it underwhelming but still a fine movie. it has plenty of plot holes to pick apart but allot of the "complaints" are just people parroting stuff they heard that could be easily understood if they paid attention to the movie.

QuoteWhy did Fifield and Milburn get lost despite them being in possession of advanced mapping technology?

this is one legit grievance. though what is equally annoying is a quick line a dialogue stating that the storm outside was f**king with the mapping could have been an easy solution to this.

QuoteWhy couldn't Vickers and Shaw run sideways to avoid the rolling juggernaut?

they did both move to the left at one point and the juggernaut follows their path. they are also both extremely distraught and were running on instinct.

QuoteHow is it possible that Shaw- not only could stand up- but even run around and jump after having her abdominal muscles completely sliced apart?

humans have survived and moved around with worse injuries, that and space future drugs kept her functioning. and even then she is visibly in pain pretty much for the rest of the movie, its not like she was acting totally fine afterword. if this is something that is so unbelievable to you you must not like many sci-fi or action movies.

QuoteWhy did Fifield and Milburn freak out when seeing an old corpse but then try to cuddle with an aggressive hissing snake?

only milburn wanted anything to do with it, not fifield. and this is another legit complaint though it could have been more accepted if milburn was smoking some of fifield's weed. i can accept goofy biologist gets high and thinks he's an alien snake charmer.

QuoteWhy did Janek and his co-pilots so quickly decide to crash into the juggernaut without even caring?
im pretty sure they did care about their lives, they just know from what they've seen on the planet that if that ship was going to earth everything would die and they thought their lives were a small price to pay to protect earth. again watching the movie should have answered this one for you.

QuoteHow did Shaw manage to fly the juggernaut?
with help from david, he even said so. he'd been learning engineer tech through the whole movie, again you really need to rewatch before asking this stuff.

QuoteWhy did she choose to cooperate with David after what he did and how he behaved towards her when she was pregnant?
as opposed to what? starving or asphyxiating on a planet with nothing but a the deacon for company?

QuoteWhy did Janek open the hangar bay door when something clearly deformed was waiting outside as pictured on the screens?

he didn't open the door the guy in the garage was the one who did it.

QuoteHow could Holloway possibly be disappointed after the discoveries they made on LV-223?

he wanted answers and all he found were corpses. he wanted live aliens. its not hard to see why he was disappointed though he does come off as spoiled.
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 01:31:58 AM
Is it me or is the alien in the shower scene really far away?...why lol. It looks small or far away. And CGI.
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Post by: hfeldhaus on Dec 26, 2016, 01:44:01 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 01:31:58 AM
Is it me or is the alien in the shower scene really far away?...why lol. It looks small or far away. And CGI.

I've seen people say this on the board all day, how the hell can you guys tell? It's so dark that the only clear glimpse of an Alien I got was the Facehugger, which looked fine.

I could only just make out the Alien hand on the shower screen and it looks creepy, long fingers scare the crap out of me.
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Post by: Virgil on Dec 26, 2016, 01:47:16 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 01:31:58 AM
Is it me or is the alien in the shower scene really far away?...why lol. It looks small or far away. And CGI.

I don't know if you'll get the reference, but...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages1.tickld.com%2Flive%2F120370.jpg&hash=8eed0c7a25c13ab656698e171c2bea32ddb1e37c)

Your comment instantly reminded me of a Father Ted episode, haha.

As for the trailer, it's passable. It's obvious that Fox's initial marketing strategy is to explicitly spell out what this film is going to deliver after Prometheus' pretty confusing campaign. Facehugger? Check. Alien? Check. Blood? Double check. I'm hoping they'll reign things in considerably after this teaser and deliver a little more on tone and atmosphere. I really think they need to give a little more of an insight into the premise too. A lot of people on many comment boards seem to think this is a reboot, or at the very least completely ignoring Prometheus.
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Post by: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 02:00:26 AM
Quote from: Murph Morph on Dec 25, 2016, 11:56:21 PM
King ghedoora oh ok but it still doesn't make sense that nobody takes action against Vickers afterwards, it's like nobody cared. I saw this film twice btw but it's been a while.
You seem like Prometheus maybe you can explain the following things;
- Why did Fifield and Milburn get lost despite them being in possession of advanced mapping technology?

The map is on the ship. They rely on Janek for directions, and he was busy helping the people actually doing their job. When the storm hit it was too late for them to leave anyway.

Quote
- Why couldn't Vickers and Shaw run sideways to avoid the rolling juggernaut?

Shaw rolls sideways and still almost dies. Vickers is a stubborn bitch who never changes course in the entire movie, it was a fitting death for her. Also, I highly doubt most people would be thinking logically in a situation like that.

Quote
- How is it possible that Shaw- not only could stand up- but even run around and jump after having her abdominal muscles completely sliced apart?

Yeah, that was BS. Future Space painkiller and healing tech?

Quote
- Why did Fifield and Milburn freak out when seeing an old corpse but then try to cuddle with an aggressive hissing snake?
Fifield has spent the whole movie trying to ingratiate himself to Millburn. When the dude is stoned and scared out of his mind, Fifield sees a chance to use his biologist powers to impress his new friend.

Quote
- Why did Janek and his co-pilots so quickly decide to crash into the juggernaut without even caring?
Janek knew everything was going south and that they had stumbled upon something incredibly dangerous; he told Shaw as much. When he saw a giant alien ship filled with the horrible terror goo taking off, he did his duty to stop it.

Quote
- How did Shaw manage to fly the juggernaut?
David is pretty adept at handling Engineer tech.

Quote
- Why did she choose to cooperate with David after what he did and how he behaved towards her when she was pregnant?
She didn't have much of a choice.

Quote
- Why did Janek open the hangar bay door when something clearly deformed was waiting outside as pictured on the screens?
I never really considered that.

Quote
- How could Holloway possibly be disappointed after the discoveries they made on LV-223?
He didn't want to make an amazing archaeological discovery. He wanted to talk to God.

After the response the trailer has received, I wish they just went and made a full-fledged Prometheus 2.
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Post by: Ragonk_Force on Dec 26, 2016, 02:06:09 AM
Cant believe what the negative nancies are crying about with this trailer. What the f**k are you expecting? Fox wanted to get across the fact that this is scary, intense and has aliens in it. Because thats what us fanboys want, isnt it? Waaaa too much cg, waaaa a shower scene. I cant believe some you are comparing the vibe of that scene to avpr. Are you f**king kidding me? Ridley could make a better movie than that piece of shit with his left nut. Waaa its too much like prometheus, waaa its too much like alien... Its tiny clips of the movie, give it the benefit of the doubt. You want this franchise to keep going, give it your money, no matter what you think of the first teaser. My apologies to Hicks, i know you dont like profanity, but this needed to be said
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Post by: D88M on Dec 26, 2016, 02:20:39 AM
Jesus, and to think we are fans, why so many complaints? it doesnt look bad at all, i get that some of you are unsure because you didnt liked Prometheus but jeez they are complaining about literally everything, and is Scott making Alien again after so many years! that alone should make us really happy, he knows what he is doing
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Post by: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 02:28:33 AM
Yeah guys, stop having opinions and feelings and preferences! To hell with us being a collection of individuals responding to something and expressing our personal responses to a highly subjective form of entertainment. Just like everything!
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Post by: Ragonk_Force on Dec 26, 2016, 02:29:02 AM
Quote from: D88M on Dec 26, 2016, 02:20:39 AM
Jesus, and to think we are fans, why so many complaints? it doesnt look bad at all, i get that some of you are unsure because you didnt liked Prometheus but jeez they are complaining about literally everything, and is Scott making Alien again after so many years! that alone should make us really happy, he knows what he is doing
Yessir!


Quote from: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 02:28:33 AM
Yeah guys, stop having opinions and feelings and preferences! To hell with us being a collection of individuals responding to something and expressing our personal responses to a highly subjective form of entertainment. Just like everything!
Theres opinions, and there is bitching for the sake of bitching
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Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 26, 2016, 02:31:56 AM
You're the one assuming and accusing that people are bitching for the sake of bitching.  Please stop.
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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 26, 2016, 02:32:05 AM
Quote from: D88M on Dec 26, 2016, 02:20:39 AM
Jesus, and to think we are fans, why so many complaints? it doesnt look bad at all, i get that some of you are unsure because you didnt liked Prometheus but jeez they are complaining about literally everything, and is Scott making Alien again after so many years! that alone should make us really happy, he knows what he is doing

Not everyone can be pleased. Some people want this and others want that and not everything can be crammed into one movie.

I am personally really pleased with what I saw and am super pumped to see the movie. I have no expectations though because that's another road to disappointment if they're not met. Just go in there expecting to see a film set in the Alien universe, it's the only way to be sure...
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Post by: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 02:35:12 AM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Dec 26, 2016, 02:29:02 AM
Theres opinions, and there is bitching for the sake of bitching
According to your post, everything is the latter.
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Post by: Ragonk_Force on Dec 26, 2016, 02:37:45 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 02:35:12 AM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Dec 26, 2016, 02:29:02 AM
Theres opinions, and there is bitching for the sake of bitching
According to your post, everything is the latter.
Ill assume, you didnt like the trailer. May i ask what you were expecting in the trailer, that you didnt see?
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Post by: fiveways on Dec 26, 2016, 02:38:32 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:58:49 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 10:10:48 PM
Feels cheap. The opening of the trailer could belong to any number of low budget sci fi horrors.

If this is cheap then I'm Papa Emeritus ;)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-029.jpg)

can you sign my rise above OG copy of "Opus Eponymous" before I sell it on discogs?  i wanna see if i can get some extra cash out of it.
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 26, 2016, 02:39:33 AM
I don't get the hate either, Alien Covenant is a direct response to the criticism of Prometheus and a ton of Alien fanservice, a chance to fix the issues with the first film and also tie it into the legendary Alien film, and in the process bringing the Xenos back. I could never have imagined that people would complain about a 2 minute trailer. Wow...

Fortunately I'm super excited to see what Ridley brings to the table now that the hype job Lindelof is "lost"
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 26, 2016, 02:42:11 AM

What hate? The majority of people here are loving it. Look at the poll. I think the numbers speak for themselves.

Now if you're talking about the whole internet in general then that's different. I don't know what that consensus is.
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Post by: Necronomicon II on Dec 26, 2016, 02:49:43 AM
Still reserving full judgement until I see more, but there was a lot to like; the Möbius inspired costume designs and Daniels' helmet and head gear look great and retro, perhaps my favourite element thus far. I get the feeling each death will one up each other, as well, so as far as body horror is concerned it looks like it'll put all else before it to shame.
The shot of David and Weyland in that big white room is some damn fine composition, and those aerial shots, superb. I'm loving the more retro bridge design on the dropship, a nice mash up of Alien and Aliens there.
Shower scene will most likely be foreshadowed earlier in the film as it seems like a decontamination area, so I'm waiting for more context, but I don't mind a few unpretentious 80s slasher tropes my self.   
It's not a perfect trailer, but it's far better for the film itself to be better than the trailer, and it won't be the last trailer.
The trailer for The Martian didn't exactly blow me away either, so leave that for the finished film itself I say.
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Post by: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 02:52:23 AM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Dec 26, 2016, 02:37:45 AM
Ill assume, you didnt like the trailer. May i ask what you were expecting in the trailer, that you didnt see?
My issue is mostly with the trailer itself. The trailer for Prometheus did an excellent job of creating a sense of rising tension. You get a sense of the growing mystery and discovery and dread -- more than the finished film, as far as I'm concerned. It was a really good piece of advertising.

This trailer starts with a gory kill and then throws as many flashes of action and "horror" at you as it can. It feels like it was outsourced to a company that specialises in slasher movie trailers. It advertises the film as a largely mindless series of death scenes strung together on a thin plot.

I was expecting a better-edited trailer that created an actual sense of tension. Alien's trailer nailed this, Prometheus' trailer nailed this, so it wasn't much to ask for this to follow suit. It didn't.

There are flashes in it I really like, but every piece of footage they showed surrounding the Aliens and neomorphs and what have you lacked any sense of imagination or creativity. It portrays the film as bottom-of-the-barrel sci fi horror and that's really disappointing. Monster shows up, snarls, blood, next scene.

Arguably, that's how Alien goes, too -- but that's not how the trailer showed it. It showed it as an intense, claustrophobic nightmare and left the generic aspects of the story to the film itself. So I have hope for Covenant the movie, but no love for Covenant the trailer.
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Post by: paradiselost on Dec 26, 2016, 02:54:27 AM
You can never please everyone & that's just how things are.

It is interesting to see so much criticism about the shower scene;  I think it will end up as one of most memorable, not just from Covenant but across Alien franchise.   Real horrors are not seen yet though;  they will start once they enter David' "chamber of horrors" in 2nd part of movie, of which we still know very little.  In particular what really happened with Shaw
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 26, 2016, 02:54:34 AM
echobbase79 I never stated the volume of the hate and I'm sure most people like it.
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Post by: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 02:57:05 AM
Quote from: D88M on Dec 26, 2016, 02:20:39 AM
Jesus, and to think we are fans, why so many complaints? it doesnt look bad at all, i get that some of you are unsure because you didnt liked Prometheus but jeez they are complaining about literally everything, and is Scott making Alien again after so many years! that alone should make us really happy, he knows what he is doing

I think some of the problem comes from hardcore 'ALIENS' fans that are disappointed that Scott shunted Blomkamp's Grand Return of the Indomitable Ripley into the nether regions of production postponement. 

These people desperately want a retcon of 'ALIEN 3' and 'ALIEN: Resurrection'.  Nothing Scott or anyone else does will make them happy until that happens. 

I refer to them as 'The Boohoo Brigade'.   

By the way, I'm loving what this movie has to offer so far.

-Windebieste.

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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 26, 2016, 02:58:06 AM
Quote from: Murph Morph on Dec 26, 2016, 02:54:34 AM
echobbase79 I never stated the volume of the hate and I'm sure most people like it.

I wasn't referring to you in general, but that some seem to think there's a more negative response than positive. I don't think that the case at all.
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Post by: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 02:59:43 AM
Why is it that any time a new piece of material is released and anyone is less than thrilled, people immediately start writing them off as having some ulterior motive to hate it?

This is a discussion board, not an echo chamber. Some people won't like what others love. That's half the fun, it creates a conversation. Trying to shut the opposing side up by writing them off as either sycophants or haters is childish.
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 26, 2016, 03:04:32 AM
@paradiselost I think the shower scene was the scariest by far and a nice nod to the classic Psycho. The xeno emerging from the darkness gave me the chills.
Also interesting point there about Shaw, if there's anything left of her.
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Post by: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 03:07:22 AM
The internet is very very mixed on this trailer.

There seem to be a lot of Prometheus fans upset that they didn't get a direct sequel, and as many Alien fans are upset that it feels like a slasher movie. You've got the people who really want the Blommkamp thing to happen (even though it will anyway). A ton of people disappointed with Prometheus are writing it off because they don't want to be "fooled" again. People sick of reboots are decrying it. Reddit doesn't know what to think, Facebook seems nonplussed, 4chan loathes it. Some people are saying it even looks fake and cheap, which is insane.

I personally loved the trailer but the whole reaction has just put a damper on my hype.
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 03:08:35 AM
Still mad this trailer spoiled so many deaths. This movie doesn't have many featured actors to begin with. But now we already know what happens to Ejogo, Rigby, Seimetz, Smollett, Hernandez and Crudup. McBride didn't look too good in one part. We've seen Bichir get molded.

Disappointing.


Quote from: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 03:07:22 AM
The internet is very very mixed on this trailer.

There seem to be a lot of Prometheus fans upset that they didn't get a direct sequel, and as many Alien fans are upset that it feels like a slasher movie. You've got the people who really want the Blommkamp thing to happen (even though it will anyway). A ton of people disappointed with Prometheus are writing it off because they don't want to be "fooled" again. Reddit doesn't know what to think, Facebook seems nonplussed, 4chan loathes it. Some people are saying it even looks fake and cheap, which is insane.

I personally loved the trailer but the whole reaction has just put a damper on my hype.

You can only really quantifiably judge it on the basis of YouTube likes. It has a lot of likes. The same small group of people are on all those other sites anyway.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 26, 2016, 03:12:58 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 02:59:43 AM
Why is it that any time a new piece of material is released and anyone is less than thrilled, people immediately start writing them off as having some ulterior motive to hate it?

This is a discussion board, not an echo chamber. Some people won't like what others love. That's half the fun, it creates a conversation. Trying to shut the opposing side up by writing them off as either sycophants or haters is childish.

It has always been that way since I joined back in 2007 before Requiem came out. With each new movie people get excited and want to hear all the good things about it. I knew all this inner quarreling would start sometime. I also didn't get the vibe that you were 'hating' on anything either. That's if you're asking me personally or the board in general about what you were asking.
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Post by: Ragonk_Force on Dec 26, 2016, 03:14:39 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 02:52:23 AM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Dec 26, 2016, 02:37:45 AM
Ill assume, you didnt like the trailer. May i ask what you were expecting in the trailer, that you didnt see?
My issue is mostly with the trailer itself. The trailer for Prometheus did an excellent job of creating a sense of rising tension. You get a sense of the growing mystery and discovery and dread -- more than the finished film, as far as I'm concerned. It was a really good piece of advertising.

This trailer starts with a gory kill and then throws as many flashes of action and "horror" at you as it can. It feels like it was outsourced to a company that specialises in slasher movie trailers. It advertises the film as a largely mindless series of death scenes strung together on a thin plot.

I was expecting a better-edited trailer that created an actual sense of tension. Alien's trailer nailed this, Prometheus' trailer nailed this, so it wasn't much to ask for this to follow suit. It didn't.

There are flashes in it I really like, but every piece of footage they showed surrounding the Aliens and neomorphs and what have you lacked any sense of imagination or creativity. It portrays the film as bottom-of-the-barrel sci fi horror and that's really disappointing. Monster shows up, snarls, blood, next scene.

Arguably, that's how Alien goes, too -- but that's not how the trailer showed it. It showed it as an intense, claustrophobic nightmare and left the generic aspects of the story to the film itself. So I have hope for Covenant the movie, but no love for Covenant the trailer.
You some some fair points, and i agree with you on the second prometheus trailer, its paints a better than the finished film for sure. You might not agree with how it was put together, but keep in mind, the second trailer is sure to better and longer, also this is surely a response from fox to the prometheus criticism. You gotta look at the bigger picture and take it for what it is to an extent, also have faith in Ridley Scott, he wants to return his movie back to glory, surely if anybody can, its him
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 26, 2016, 03:14:48 AM
@MajorB LOL Most viewers seem to like it. Take a look at the trailer on YouTube and see the vast majority of likes.
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Post by: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 03:14:55 AM
It's exactly the kind of messed up reaction that comes with 'holding all the cards too close to your chest' and then make the big reveal with little lead up with everything all at once. 

-Windebieste.
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Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 26, 2016, 03:17:31 AM
Quote from: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 03:07:22 AM
The internet is very very mixed on this trailer.

There seem to be a lot of Prometheus fans upset that they didn't get a direct sequel, and as many Alien fans are upset that it feels like a slasher movie. You've got the people who really want the Blommkamp thing to happen (even though it will anyway). A ton of people disappointed with Prometheus are writing it off because they don't want to be "fooled" again. People sick of reboots are decrying it. Reddit doesn't know what to think, Facebook seems nonplussed, 4chan loathes it. Some people are saying it even looks fake and cheap, which is insane.

I personally loved the trailer but the whole reaction has just put a damper on my hype.

What exactly is a Prometheus fan? Someone who doesn't like ALIEN(S) but does like PROMETHEUS? ALIEN(S) fans who like PROMETHEUS best?

Its seem trivial. The movie is a sequel to Prometheus. Its just being branded as ALIEN because it hits closer to "home" than Prometheus did.

If delivered the right way Covenant will have the best of both worlds and should be terrific. I trust in Ser Ridley's directing skills, I think its just a matter if the script was good and if he doesn't over edit it.
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Post by: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 03:29:44 AM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 26, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

What exactly is a Prometheus fan? Someone who doesn't like ALIEN(S) but does like PROMETHEUS? ALIEN(S) fans who like PROMETHEUS best?

Its seem trivial. The movie is a sequel to Prometheus. Its just being branded as ALIEN because it hits closer to "home" than Prometheus did.

If delivered the right way Covenant will have the best of both worlds and should be terrific. I trust in Ser Ridley's directing skills, I think its just a matter if the script was good and if he doesn't over edit it.

I define a Prometheus fan as someone who liked that film and/or were invested in Shaw's quest as she flew off into space at the end of the film. If you wanted to see her continuing adventure, this wasn't the film you wanted.

Quote from: Murph Morph on Dec 26, 2016, 03:14:48 AM
@MajorB LOL Most viewers seem to like it. Take a look at the trailer on YouTube and see the vast majority of likes.
The like\dislike ratio isn't as important as word of mouth and buzz IMHO, and the comments are filled with endless complaining. Right now the discussion around Covenant is mixed which can quickly turn toxic, which is concerning since the continuation of this story and potentially the Blommkamp film will be hanging in the balance. And make no mistake, there are people who would be interested in memeing this film into failure for fun.

Quote from: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 03:14:55 AM
It's exactly the kind of messed up reaction that comes with 'holding all the cards too close to your chest' and then make the big reveal with little lead up with everything all at once. 

-Windebieste.

I feel that if they released this trailer a few weeks ago as a total surprise, the reaction would be very different. Heck, with how stressed and frustrated people have been this year maybe it would have been a better idea to wait until January when people are refreshed for the new year.
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Post by: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 03:34:58 AM
Liked it. Not super bothered about trailers though. Have seen trailers I didn't like for films I liked and vice versa. Mostly I'm just in on the idea of another Alien film and seeing if I enjoy it or not. You could put out a supercut of concept art soundtracked by a short interview with Ridley Scott explaining the premise and I'd be like "cool. hmu when it comes out k".

It's not Christmas here anymore in the UK (AM on boxing day) but Merry Christmas to everyone all the same. Try not to argue with one another. I understand that when someone talks negatively about something you like (or vice versa) that it's easy to feel 'threatened' in a sense. I feel it too all the time. Important thing to do is to react appropriately. If they've phrased it in a dickish way then politely tell them to be a bit more cordial. If they've written it in a level-headed way then just take it on board and move on, or have a discussion about it. A nice, normal discussion. You get the level of discourse that you deserve. 
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Post by: StrangeShape on Dec 26, 2016, 03:52:08 AM
I must say, the trailer started out really good, but that slasher scene at the end? Ugh, sorry but Im surprised Ridley would go for something like this
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Post by: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
The thing that completely mystifies me about this trailer is the release date.  Christmas Day.

Christmas Day?  Really..? 

How much more disconnected with everything that Christmas means to people can you get? 

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "when should we release a major movie trailer featuring hideous monsters shredding up the crew of a space ship when people need it the least?"

Fox Marketing Exec #2:   "How about Christmas?"

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "Excellent idea!  No one needs any more of that 'Joy to the World' and 'Goodwill to All' stuff on Christmas Day as much as they need a gory scary ALIEN trailer.  Let's do it!"

Seriously, though, why release an 'ALIEN' trailer of all things on Christmas Day?  I just don't get it...

-Windebieste.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 26, 2016, 04:01:53 AM
Typical Smartass!! :laugh: Its the perfect time to promote the film. 8)
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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 26, 2016, 04:10:18 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
The thing that completely mystifies me about this trailer is the release date.  Christmas Day.

Christmas Day?  Really..? 

How much more disconnected with everything that Christmas means to people can you get? 

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "when should we release a major movie trailer featuring hideous monsters shredding up the crew of a space ship when people need it the least?"

Fox Marketing Exec #2:   "How about Christmas?"

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "Excellent idea!  No one needs any more of that 'Joy to the World' and 'Goodwill to All' stuff on Christmas Day as much as they need a gory scary ALIEN trailer.  Let's do it!"

Seriously, though, why release an 'ALIEN' trailer of all things on Christmas Day?  I just don't get it...

-Windebieste.

Because Santa Engineer wills it.  :P
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 04:11:10 AM
It's a perfect time. Look at the view count and the overall positive reception. It worked man.
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Post by: Kimo on Dec 26, 2016, 04:19:03 AM
Definitely a good time to release it on Christmas day. think about it, families get together everyone's having fun around the dinner table people showing off the new gadgets and talking about the latest showbiz news ect ect. I've shown at least 2 people who would not of known about Covenant because of celebrating xmas dinner today. If it was just regular day the won't of seen it this soon.
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Post by: 426Buddy on Dec 26, 2016, 04:28:41 AM
What do you guys think of the ship (covenant) design?

While I loved the trailer the ships look and design was a bit meh
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Post by: Ragonk_Force on Dec 26, 2016, 04:30:37 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 26, 2016, 04:28:41 AM
What do you guys think of the ship (covenant) design?

While I loved the trailer the ships look and design was a bit meh
Not really a clear enough look, but the colony ship looks cool to me
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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 26, 2016, 04:37:17 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 26, 2016, 04:28:41 AM
What do you guys think of the ship (covenant) design?

While I loved the trailer the ships look and design was a bit meh

I liked it, it's something quite different from what we've usually got. It's simple and straightforward and you can tell it really has just one purpose. It's not there to collect ores or to transport troops and carry huge ship weaponry, it's just there to take people to new worlds and make them home. It doesn't need much complexity to its design. The long length allows it to carry not only the terraforming equipment but the huge amounts of colonists it'll need to take to the new world.
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Post by: predatorcankill on Dec 26, 2016, 04:41:05 AM
If the comment here proved anything, its that one should NEVER listen to fan opinion. Fans hated "Prometheus" because it didn't tie itself closely enough to Alien? Now fans are hating this trailer because it is too "Alien" and not enough "Prometheus"? What the hell? Illogical and irrarional. But of course, these so-called fans will never admit their opinion is WRONG.

I am rooting for this film to be a triumph. Just to piss those here who brush it aside.
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Post by: Kimo on Dec 26, 2016, 04:54:59 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 26, 2016, 04:28:41 AM
What do you guys think of the ship (covenant) design?

While I loved the trailer the ships look and design was a bit meh

Looks very long and flat. I think the long corridors might show us some nightmarish horror when in the dark. Like can you imagine, your at one end of the corridor and at the other end you can see a strange penis head looking humanoid, shaped silhouette in the very far background just standing there looking back at you.? Or even worse your in the middle of one of the long arse corridors and a xeno and a Neomorph are coming slowly towards you from either end of the corridors why your in the middle.
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 26, 2016, 06:24:33 AM
I love the ship design, simple and realistic and the carrier has vibes from the dropship in Aliens.
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Post by: ben rambo on Dec 26, 2016, 06:54:09 AM
awesome
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Post by: Mihail on Dec 26, 2016, 07:47:09 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
The thing that completely mystifies me about this trailer is the release date.  Christmas Day.

Christmas Day?  Really..? 

How much more disconnected with everything that Christmas means to people can you get? 

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "when should we release a major movie trailer featuring hideous monsters shredding up the crew of a space ship when people need it the least?"

Fox Marketing Exec #2:   "How about Christmas?"

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "Excellent idea!  No one needs any more of that 'Joy to the World' and 'Goodwill to All' stuff on Christmas Day as much as they need a gory scary ALIEN trailer.  Let's do it!"

Seriously, though, why release an 'ALIEN' trailer of all things on Christmas Day?  I just don't get it...

-Windebieste.

First it is because Christmas is the best time to promote something so people can see it and second because Christmas is the celebration of evil, it is a pagan holiday older than the birth of Jesus Christ.
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Post by: motherfather on Dec 26, 2016, 07:53:02 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 25, 2016, 11:37:00 PM
This trailer doesn't look cheap to me, it looks like gritty European scifi.  I know some of you expect more Hollywood polish, but I'm really happy with this direction.  The best movies in the franchise are very low tech (Alien 3 is almost medieval).

I also don't think it looks cheap. However, I do think rather cheap tricks are being used e.g. shower scene. In fact, I would say it needs to be more gritty. It still feels cold, crisp and clinical in places. (Maybe the blue tinted filter is to blame) where it maybe shouldn't. Although Id draw a line at Alien 3 levels of grittiness which were just too dire and insufferable to keep me glued to the screen.

Rarely and barely a hair is out of place on the Covenant actors. Clothing seems neatly ironed and unstained. Makeup and complexion blemish-free. For David or lab scenes this works just like the Ash/lab scenes. But not for others.

Im being really picky now, but it somehow matters. And its not like Ridley isn't CAPABLE of delivering greatness, so minute attention to detail does kinda matter once a tight and gripping script has been successfully pulled off.
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Post by: SiL on Dec 26, 2016, 07:56:01 AM
It doesn't look like they didn't spend a lot on it. But it does feel like the kind of movie people don't spend money on. Hence, 'feels' cheap.
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Post by: Thomas H. on Dec 26, 2016, 08:19:30 AM
I will never understand the fanboy's capacity to 'know' a whole movie based on a trailer. Actually judging acting based on one line.

On a different forum, so idiot was actually complaining that this movie won't answer any of the questions from Prometheus. How can you f***ing know?? This was two minutes of footage from a movie that's gonna be about 2 hours long...... Were you guys honestly expecting all the answers in those two minutes?
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Post by: SM on Dec 26, 2016, 08:27:22 AM
I remember seeing a trailer for Empire Strikes Back in 1980 and linking a shot of Luke sliding down a vent on Cloud City and some snowspeeders and thinking Luke slid down the tube to board the speeder, like Virgil in Thunderbirds.  :D
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Post by: Gently on Dec 26, 2016, 08:30:12 AM
I remember the first neomorph, it was in resurrection. It was born from a womb and cried like a baby, good stuff they're doing to the franchise. Now spiked backbones running around? Jeez...
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Post by: irratrional human on Dec 26, 2016, 08:37:24 AM
Is the ship that is seen exploding in the trailer the Covenant or a drop ship of the Covenant? If we assume that the flat ship is the convenant, then it's quite obvious that the exploding ship is not the covenant. If we assume that the exploding ship is a drop ship of the covenant, then we need some expanation for the seen showing the flat ship cruising over a lake. This means that the crew of the falt ship need not rely on a drop ship to get them on the ground. Could it be that this flat ship we are shown at the begining of the trailer is driven be a entirely different (may be even non-human) crew?
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Post by: SM on Dec 26, 2016, 08:41:08 AM
Only guessing but I think the lander is attached to the front of the long ship - kinda like the Nostromo toes the refinery.
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Post by: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Mihai on Dec 26, 2016, 07:47:09 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
The thing that completely mystifies me about this trailer is the release date.  Christmas Day.

Christmas Day?  Really..? 

How much more disconnected with everything that Christmas means to people can you get? 

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "when should we release a major movie trailer featuring hideous monsters shredding up the crew of a space ship when people need it the least?"

Fox Marketing Exec #2:   "How about Christmas?"

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "Excellent idea!  No one needs any more of that 'Joy to the World' and 'Goodwill to All' stuff on Christmas Day as much as they need a gory scary ALIEN trailer.  Let's do it!"

Seriously, though, why release an 'ALIEN' trailer of all things on Christmas Day?  I just don't get it...

-Windebieste.

First it is because Christmas is the best time to promote something so people can see it and second because Christmas is the celebration of evil, it is a pagan holiday older than the birth of Jesus Christ.

I'll settle for the 'Evil Pagan Holiday'.  I like that idea a lot.   ;)

-Windebieste.
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 26, 2016, 09:35:45 AM
There are two ways to view the new trailer... 1) With a technical eye on how a trailer is constructed/edited and how those technical choices elicit excitement/anticipation for the film. 2) A simple visual insight into the film itself...

In terms of approach 1 - yes, it's a trailer designed to highlight action and horror. Is it a superbly edited trailer? Apart from the first few shots I'd say it's a very averagely put together one (from a technical perspective), but that shouldn't be automatically viewed as a reflection on the film itself. Yes, it's certainly a generic trailer... However, in terms of approach 2 - we, the audience (and Alien fans), are getting our first real glimpse of the aesethtics of the film. It's certainly a lavish production and is seemingly going to be tonally darker, more claustrophobic, grittier and closer to the aesthetic of the original than Prometheus was. Other than that it's difficult to get a real sense of how succesfull the plot, pacing will be (the acting seems perfectly fine based on the trailer) or how 'scary' it will actually be. And my initial reaction is that the first few shots of the character trapped in the room with the back burster is infinitely more scary than anything in Prometheus, Aliens Versus Predator, Alien Requiem and Alien 3... which bodes well for the film. We'll see.
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Post by: OpenMaw on Dec 26, 2016, 09:49:32 AM
The trailer has some nice bits.

It's also got a few issues. I think the editing is a big problem here. They're showing too much too soon. I actually really like the track. I do think it fits the tone of things. Big beef here is that, especially now with our ability to stop and analyze everything, they really should have not shown the deaths. We know who get's it and when pretty succinctly now. It would have been much better to focus on reactions, and the beautiful visuals. Keep the cheap thrills for the movie.
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Post by: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 26, 2016, 09:49:32 AM
I actually really like the track.
I feel like it would have worked better for a trailer that emphasized David and the more Prometheus elements of the story. When you're using a song that is pointedly referencing David in an ad that's all about the aliens, it creates a weird disconnect where the music choice is both on the nose and totally inappropriate. It doesn't help that the timing was unlucky in that people are finally sick of the sad husky-voiced lady doing a song cover trend in trailers and are taking out their frustration on this one.

And yeah, it does spoil a bit too much. I personally don't mind because the I spoiled the whole movie for myself already, but it reeks of overcompensating due to people's confusion with the tone and plot of Prometheus. This one is SCARY and it has XENOMORPHS and it plays out HOW YOU'D EXPECT.
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Post by: lordvader on Dec 26, 2016, 10:12:10 AM
Has it been mentioned before that the robe that David is wearing is very similar to the robe that engineers wore in one of the Prometheus deleted scenes in the beginning of the movie?
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Post by: flacerda on Dec 26, 2016, 10:29:59 AM
Anybody noticed that the clicking sound heard during the shower sequence when the tail is coming up is actually taken from the '79 Alien film? I think all this sound will not make it to the final cut of A:C, but one can dream. One of the many things I like about the original film is it's visceral sound design.
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Post by: Rankles75 on Dec 26, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
snipped.

Thought it was a decent enough trailer overall. Thing that bugged me the most about it was the whole "not wearing a helmet on an alien planet" nonsense that was also one of the niggles about Prometheus. Not going to read too much into the film based on a two minute trailer. Aliens is the best film in the series, but the trailer for that was terrible...

* Let's not insult our fellow forum members please. We're all grown up here. Let's act it. Hicks.
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Post by: Kronnang_Dunn on Dec 26, 2016, 11:04:41 AM
RED BAND???!!! WTH... Last time I checked, Red Band is swearing, guts, mutilations and lots of blood. This is not Red Band at all...  ???  ::)
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Post by: Seegson on Dec 26, 2016, 11:11:34 AM
Pople on LV426 didnt wear helmets...even the Colonial Marines when they landed there...Paradise its a terraformed planet, im pretty sure about that
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 26, 2016, 11:21:45 AM
Quote from: flacerda on Dec 26, 2016, 10:29:59 AM
Anybody noticed that the clicking sound heard during the shower sequence when the tail is coming up is actually taken from the '79 Alien film? I think all this sound will not make it to the final cut of A:C, but one can dream. One of the many things I like about the original film is it's visceral sound design.
Totally agree... and the score too. The whole soundscape of Alien was fantastic and added something really suspenseful/terrifying to the film....


Quote from: Rankles75 on Dec 26, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
Some people on here (on both sides) really need to get out more...  ::)

Thought it was a decent enough trailer overall. Thing that bugged me the most about it was the whole "not wearing a helmet on an alien planet" nonsense that was also one of the niggles about Prometheus. Not going to read too much into the film based on a two minute trailer. Aliens is the best film in the series, but the trailer for that was terrible...
Well we don't really know the context. If the crew of the Covenant have been in communication with David, if they've received a message, then they may have good reason for not wearing space suits on the surface. Clearly it's a bit of a mistake on their part, but it does appear they may have been tricked by David...
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Post by: fakk3 on Dec 26, 2016, 12:18:21 PM
Time to sell Alien franchise to Disney. They are know how make good sequels/prequels  ;D
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Post by: BonesawT101 on Dec 26, 2016, 12:32:04 PM
Quote from: fakk3 on Dec 26, 2016, 12:18:21 PM
Time to sell Alien franchise to Disney. They are know how make good sequels/prequels  ;D
"what?! Is that a joke?"
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Post by: fiveways on Dec 26, 2016, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
The thing that completely mystifies me about this trailer is the release date.  Christmas Day.

Christmas Day?  Really..? 

How much more disconnected with everything that Christmas means to people can you get? 

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "when should we release a major movie trailer featuring hideous monsters shredding up the crew of a space ship when people need it the least?"

Fox Marketing Exec #2:   "How about Christmas?"

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "Excellent idea!  No one needs any more of that 'Joy to the World' and 'Goodwill to All' stuff on Christmas Day as much as they need a gory scary ALIEN trailer.  Let's do it!"

Seriously, though, why release an 'ALIEN' trailer of all things on Christmas Day?  I just don't get it...

-Windebieste.

Because to half the people out there xmas is a miserable, isolating time of year?  Seems the perfect time for an alien trailer.


I suspect everyone who hates the trailer is still gonna see it (i dislike the vibe but I am still going because that is what i do).  Just, for myself I know I am not going to the midnight screening this time around.  I'll still catch it opening weekend but I'm not gonna be first in line.
They're still getting my money, just this time around I am not losing sleep for it.
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Post by: shawsbaby on Dec 26, 2016, 02:01:00 PM
Quote from: Kronnang_Dunn on Dec 26, 2016, 11:04:41 AM
RED BAND???!!! WTH... Last time I checked, Red Band is swearing, guts, mutilations and lots of blood. This is not Red Band at all...  ???  ::)

I heard at least one "f**k" and saw tons of red blood, including something bursting out of someone's back. Seemed red band to me!


Quote from: Rankles75 on Dec 26, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
Some people on here (on both sides) really need to get out more...  ::)

Agreed. I thought it was a good trailer. Prometheus was shrouded in mystery and "is it or isn't it?" so the trailer was a thing of beauty. This is not meant to have that same impact because we know it's both a sequel to Prometheus and a more direct prequel to Alien.

Also - this shower scene insanity. It's clearly the way it's cut for the trailer. I highly doubt in an intense, dark Ridley Scott film he inserted a cliched, throwaway sex in the shower death scene for kicks. Context is everything.

I also think Hicks is onto something when he says this is mainly from the first act. Matches what I've heard/read.
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Post by: motherfather on Dec 26, 2016, 02:22:00 PM
Lol. The lyrics to the trailer song about a boy...

Reminds me of "there was a little girl, who had a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead..." lol!
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 26, 2016, 03:13:01 PM
Well said shawsbaby


IAmNotASmartMan you just reminded me of another stupid dialogue in Prometheus that further establishes the fact that they were indeed the most idiotic explorers in the history of mankind.
"I love rocks!!!", "because I want to believe" and "yes, father" are my favourite retard lines though  ;D
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Post by: IAmNotASmartMan on Dec 26, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Regarding the trailer being released on Christmas Day, my opinion is that this is no coincidence, and if you all remember, the Prometheus crew first entered the pyramid on Christmas Day.

Charlie Holloway: Captain, would you please tell the survey to suit up and meet us in the airlock.
Janek: There's only six hours left of daylight. Why don't you leave it till the morning.
Charlie Holloway: No, no, no. It's Christmas, captain, and I want to open my presents.

Coincidence? I think not!  :)
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Post by: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: IAmNotASmartMan on Dec 26, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Regarding the trailer being released on Christmas Day, my opinion is that this is no coincidence, and if you all remember, the Prometheus crew first entered the pyramid on Christmas Day.

Charlie Holloway: Captain, would you please tell the survey to suit up and meet us in the airlock.
Janek: There's only six hours left of daylight. Why don't you leave it till the morning.
Charlie Holloway: No, no, no. It's Christmas, captain, and I want to open my presents.

Coincidence? I think not!  :)
I was under the impression that was a joke. He was saying he was excited like a kid on Christmas eve, not that it was literally Christmas.
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Post by: Rankles75 on Dec 26, 2016, 04:06:16 PM
Yeah, he didn't actually mean it was Christmas Day. Thought that was pretty clear...
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Post by: shawsbaby on Dec 26, 2016, 04:13:18 PM
Quote from: Rankles75 on Dec 26, 2016, 04:06:16 PM
Yeah, he didn't actually mean it was Christmas Day. Thought that was pretty clear...

Well...

"Final report of the vessel Prometheus. The ship and her entire crew are gone. If you're receiving this transmission, make no attempt to come to its point of origin. There is only death here now, and I'm leaving it behind. It is New Year's Day, the year of our Lord, 2094. My name is Elisabeth Shaw, last survivor of the Prometheus. And I am still searching."
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Post by: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 04:19:54 PM
Christmas time, aye, but not literally Christmas day.
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Post by: shawsbaby on Dec 26, 2016, 04:22:09 PM
Quote from: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 04:19:54 PM
Christmas time, aye, but not literally Christmas day.

Sure, but that means you're both right, in a way. Yippee! :)
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Post by: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 04:30:26 PM
Yeah, heh, not like it really matters. Don't think the Christmas Day release of the trailer is much worth fretting about anyway.
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Post by: shawsbaby on Dec 26, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 04:30:26 PM
Yeah, heh, not like it really matters. Don't think the Christmas Day release of the trailer is much worth fretting about anyway.

Agreed, it was just a good day to release it. And bonus fun that the previous film is circa Christmas - immaculate conception and all :)
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Post by: Valaquen on Dec 26, 2016, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: shawsbaby on Dec 26, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
Quote from: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 04:30:26 PM
Yeah, heh, not like it really matters. Don't think the Christmas Day release of the trailer is much worth fretting about anyway.

Agreed, it was just a good day to release it. And bonus fun that the previous film is circa Christmas - immaculate conception and all :)

Immaculate Conception relates to Mary, not quite Christ, but still, feels apt  :P
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 26, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
So strange. People complaining that the footage shows death scenes!!! Its a red band trailer that's how these trailers are!! ::)
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 05:51:15 PM
Doesn't mean we want to know how and when people get killed. Crudup is the THIRD billed cast member and we saw him get facehugged lol.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 26, 2016, 05:54:14 PM
Big whoop 3 cast members killed out of what a cast of 19, you got to be joking!! Ugh!!
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Post by: IAmNotASmartMan on Dec 26, 2016, 05:59:43 PM
As i said earlier, I strongly believe that they chose to release the trailer on Christmas Day for a good reason. Prometheus had a lot of  religious symbolism.
After all, Alien: Covenant is a Prometheus sequel, isn't it?
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Post by: Astronoë on Dec 26, 2016, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 02:42:14 PM
I'm SHOCKED at all the complaining I see on various boards. This was honestly better than I expected, the acting looks fantastic, the cinematography - about which people whine everywhere I look now  - honestly looks great to me - dark and gritty but also very beautiful (the shots of the environment of the planet) and that opening scene was tense as hell. Fantastic trailer!

Environment looks the same as previous movie even though it's a diffrent planet...some icelandic wasteland isn't my idea of a green paradise...and not even a Gigeresque landscape did we get...How anyone could be happy with the landscape we saw is baffling...
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Post by: Keith on Dec 26, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
It looks like an Alien reboot, with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 26, 2016, 06:16:50 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 26, 2016, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: harlequinade on Dec 25, 2016, 02:42:14 PM
I'm SHOCKED at all the complaining I see on various boards. This was honestly better than I expected, the acting looks fantastic, the cinematography - about which people whine everywhere I look now  - honestly looks great to me - dark and gritty but also very beautiful (the shots of the environment of the planet) and that opening scene was tense as hell. Fantastic trailer!

Environment looks the same as previous movie even though it's a diffrent planet...some icelandic wasteland isn't my idea of a green paradise...and not even a Gigeresque landscape did we get...How anyone could be happy with the landscape we saw is baffling...

And you're judging this from what a 2 minute trailer?? Which you think showed the entire landscape/ structures for the film??
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Post by: Infected on Dec 26, 2016, 06:20:03 PM
Quote from: Keith on Dec 26, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
It looks like an Alien reboot, with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in.
what a stupid comment, it looks like an Alien reboot with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in....
If that is mixed in then its impossible that it looks like an Alien reboot.
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Post by: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 06:26:09 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 26, 2016, 06:20:03 PM
Quote from: Keith on Dec 26, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
It looks like an Alien reboot, with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in.
what a stupid comment, it looks like an Alien reboot with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in....
If that is mixed in then its impossible that it looks like an Alien reboot.
Bit of an unnecessary response there.
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Post by: x-M-x on Dec 26, 2016, 06:29:11 PM
Trailer Music




Looking forward to the official OST!

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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 26, 2016, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: x-M-x on Dec 26, 2016, 06:29:11 PM
Trailer Music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD6Vr8U01Ic


Looking forward to the official OST!

Nice, thanks!! 8)
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Post by: Keith on Dec 26, 2016, 06:36:51 PM
Quote from: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 06:26:09 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 26, 2016, 06:20:03 PM
Quote from: Keith on Dec 26, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
It looks like an Alien reboot, with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in.
what a stupid comment, it looks like an Alien reboot with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in....
If that is mixed in then its impossible that it looks like an Alien reboot.
Bit of an unnecessary response there.

I guess I made him triggered  :laugh:
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Post by: Infected on Dec 26, 2016, 06:37:51 PM
Quote from: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 06:26:09 PM
Quote from: Infected on Dec 26, 2016, 06:20:03 PM
Quote from: Keith on Dec 26, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
It looks like an Alien reboot, with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in.
what a stupid comment, it looks like an Alien reboot with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in....
If that is mixed in then its impossible that it looks like an Alien reboot.
Bit of an unnecessary response there.
I know, thats why i had to comment on him.
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Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 26, 2016, 06:40:21 PM
I got one of those VR headsets that you put your phone in for Christmas, and tried watching the trailer with it. Knocked me sick!  :laugh:
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 26, 2016, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Dec 26, 2016, 06:40:21 PM
I got one of those VR headsets that you put your phone in for Christmas, and tried watching the trailer with it. Knocked me sick!  :laugh:

8)
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Post by: s7habo on Dec 26, 2016, 07:06:41 PM
In contrast to the many here, I think trailer is well made.

On first part we are witnessing the horror scenes that are typical part of all Alien movies. And because we already know (and accordingly expect) that, there is no need to mask it in some kind of suspense attempt to make events in the movie more exciting. This is only a frame for more important, second part of trailer - introduction of  David/Walter through the song "Nature Boy", which metaphorically describes him with peaceful, melancholic tone as "...a very strange enchanted boy..." who is "...wandered very far... a little shy and sad of eye...but very wise...". As contrast to that song, we are visually introduced to whole bunch of horrifying events, what suggests us that he is somehow connected to all that savagery at "the end of his journey".

So with that combination of cold melancholic chant as "introduction" of David and horror visuals, trailer shifts nicely the tension of the movie from typical horror elements of Alien to sinister but perhaps consequently logical reasoning of one "very strange enchanted" character who seems to have his own agenda despite terrifying consequences this agenda might have.
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 26, 2016, 05:54:14 PM
Big whoop 3 cast members killed out of what a cast of 19, you got to be joking!! Ugh!!

We know 6-8 of the main cast which is what counts.
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Post by: p_w_s86 on Dec 26, 2016, 07:19:50 PM
Speaking sense here - the music makes it clear that it's all about David, and it gets the conventional aspects over and done with.

Only excitement from here!
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Post by: Gramster on Dec 26, 2016, 07:23:38 PM
snip*

This looks like a pre-sequel that fits, and its ironic that the trailer seems to be a reaction to the confusion that Prometheus delivered - most people who watch this will want what an Alien franchise should deliver; scares thrills and a bodycount - doesn't mean that Ridley will be holding back on more mysteries, - but he's figured that, in the short term, mystery in the trailer doesn't put bums on seats on the opening weekend, but hey, once you're there popcorn in trembling hand, he can deliver his mysteries in his own sweet time.

I'm all for this, can't wait to see what happens in May.

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 05:51:15 PM
Doesn't mean we want to know how and when people get killed. Crudup is the THIRD billed cast member and we saw him get facehugged lol.

Doesn't mean he'll be dead - David may have means to vaccinate him from an incubating egg, or a way to remove it.

Re-itterating that we can disagree with others sentiments without taking to insulting them. No need for it at all. Hicks.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 26, 2016, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 26, 2016, 05:54:14 PM
Big whoop 3 cast members killed out of what a cast of 19, you got to be joking!! Ugh!!

We know 6-8 of the main cast which is what counts.

Right so not every death has been spoiled.
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 26, 2016, 07:42:12 PM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 26, 2016, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 26, 2016, 05:54:14 PM
Big whoop 3 cast members killed out of what a cast of 19, you got to be joking!! Ugh!!

We know 6-8 of the main cast which is what counts.

Right so not every death has been spoiled.
Very true... Most people going into the cinema to see Alien first time around knew what was going to happen to John Hurt's character. If anything, that awareness of basic plot points/scenes only increased the suspense/anticipation. I think this is what we're getting here...
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Post by: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Gramster on Dec 26, 2016, 07:23:38 PM
but he's figured that, in the short term, mystery in the trailer doesn't put bums on seats on the opening weekend, but hey, once you're there popcorn in trembling hand, he can deliver his mysteries in his own sweet time.

Even after adjusting for inflation, Prometheus has the highest opening weekend box office of the entire Alien franchise, as well as the highest foreign totals. Less impressively, it has the third-highest domestic total box office.

Adjusted for inflation in 2015 dollars, the opening weekends of the Alien films:

Alien (91 theater limited release): $11,614,066
Alien (635 theater wide release): $17,490,640
Aliens (1,437 theaters): $21,904,374
Alien 3 (2,227 theaters): $33,149,414
Alien Resurrection (2,415 theaters): $24,745,377
AVP* (3,395 theaters): $48,678,488
AVPR (2,611 theaters): $11,737,493
Prometheus (3,396 theaters): $53,976,822

The domestic box office totals for the Alien franchise:

Alien: $266,433,969
Aliens: $185,572,437
Alien 3: $94,546,433
Alien Resurrection: $71,792,825
AVP: $102,060,848
AVPR: $48,769,468
Prometheus: $133,728,062

Finally, the adjusted 2015 foreign grosses for the Alien franchise:

Alien: $79,009,921
Aliens: $100,020,550
Alien 3: $177,833,686
Alien Resurrection: $170,606,681
AVP: $117,290,975
AVPR: $101,614,968
Prometheus: $292,750,868
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 08:09:24 PM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 26, 2016, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 26, 2016, 05:54:14 PM
Big whoop 3 cast members killed out of what a cast of 19, you got to be joking!! Ugh!!

We know 6-8 of the main cast which is what counts.

Right so not every death has been spoiled.

Nope just Rigby's. And Seimetz'. And Ejogo's. And Crudup's. And Hernandez's. And Smollett's. And McBride didn't look too good in one part. And we saw that BTS pic of Bichir getting face molded.

Don't kid yourself.
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Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 26, 2016, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Gramster on Dec 26, 2016, 07:23:38 PM
but he's figured that, in the short term, mystery in the trailer doesn't put bums on seats on the opening weekend, but hey, once you're there popcorn in trembling hand, he can deliver his mysteries in his own sweet time.

Even after adjusting for inflation, Prometheus has the highest opening weekend box office of the entire Alien franchise, as well as the highest foreign totals. Less impressively, it has the third-highest domestic total box office.

Adjusted for inflation in 2015 dollars, the opening weekends of the Alien films:

Alien (91 theater limited release): $11,614,066
Alien (635 theater wide release): $17,490,640
Aliens (1,437 theaters): $21,904,374
Alien 3 (2,227 theaters): $33,149,414
Alien Resurrection (2,415 theaters): $24,745,377
AVP* (3,395 theaters): $48,678,488
AVPR (2,611 theaters): $11,737,493
Prometheus (3,396 theaters): $53,976,822

The domestic box office totals for the Alien franchise:

Alien: $266,433,969
Aliens: $185,572,437
Alien 3: $94,546,433
Alien Resurrection: $71,792,825
AVP: $102,060,848
AVPR: $48,769,468
Prometheus: $133,728,062

Finally, the adjusted 2015 foreign grosses for the Alien franchise:

Alien: $79,009,921
Aliens: $100,020,550
Alien 3: $177,833,686
Alien Resurrection: $170,606,681
AVP: $117,290,975
AVPR: $101,614,968
Prometheus: $292,750,868

Prometheus had the most clout behind it since Aliens though. Anticipation was fever pitch, it was Ridley Scott's first sci-fi since Blade Runner, it's connections to Alien at release were LOOSE therefor it didn't suffer from franchise fatigue, I'm taking a guess but I'm pretty sure it had the most expensive marketing campaign of all the films. So it's harder to measure it's "success" against the other movies.

Besides, I imagine Fox have done their research. They're backing Alien the brand over Prometheus the brand.
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 26, 2016, 09:19:32 PM
the trailor spoiled the death of 3 characters. . .macbride looks sad so now his death is also spoiled?. . . Where did hermadez die in the trailor?. . .chances ate they all gonna die in any case. .yjis is an alien movie. . No ones save
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 26, 2016, 09:31:51 PM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 26, 2016, 05:54:14 PM
Big whoop 3 cast members killed out of what a cast of 19, you got to be joking!! Ugh!!

Yeah. Even in this trailer Scott doesn't take prisoners. People die? Who cares! It's an Alien movie and characters are disposable :)


Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 08:09:24 PM
Nope just Rigby's. And Seimetz'. And Ejogo's. And Crudup's. And Hernandez's. And Smollett's. And McBride didn't look too good in one part. And we saw that BTS pic of Bichir getting face molded.

Don't kid yourself.

Those are not main characters. In Alien movies you got 2-3 main characters. Excluding David (main antagonist) in my opinion those are: Walter, Waterston and McBride. That's all. The rest is expendable.
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 26, 2016, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 07:48:30 PM
Even after adjusting for inflation, Prometheus has the highest opening weekend box office of the entire Alien franchise, as well as the highest foreign totals.

It also cost the most to make and market. Thus Alien and Aliens can still be considered more successful.
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 09:40:38 PM
Lol of course people die, but you don't want to know how or when.

And those are main characters. This is an ensemble. Crudup is billed third lol. And of course Fassbender and Waterston will live.
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 26, 2016, 09:43:12 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 09:40:38 PM
Lol of course people die, but you don't want to know how or when.

And those are main characters. This is an ensemble. Crudup is billed third lol. And of course Fassbender and Waterston will live.

Which Fassbender? David or Walter? :)
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 26, 2016, 09:48:42 PM
I'm just guessing but probably David. David is the iconic one lol.

I just wish a couple more side characters would live a'la Aliens and Alien: Resurrection and AVPR.
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 26, 2016, 10:06:57 PM
i am still loving the trailor. .cause i know now that their is gonna be extreme violence and tention and gore and awesome cinemarography and decent acting. . And great fx. . Including the xeno tail . .the only complaint that i feel holds some ground is the spoiled deaths of those characters. . . I personally don't really mind knowing. . .. . But i can understand that their is people who don't wanne be spoiled . .
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 26, 2016, 10:09:01 PM
i really hope that Ridley sticks to his word and keeps the philosophical depth of Prometheus in this film! the questions Prometheus posed are what made me fall in love with the movie so much. Posing deeper religious questions without making them sound hokey or offensive is a very difficult thing to do and Ridley did it EXTREMELY well in Prometheus!
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Post by: Scott on Dec 26, 2016, 10:23:03 PM
High guys normally just a browser on the site therefore never posted. Apologies if this has been picked out. But just an observation on the shower scene.

I know it's been mentioned about the editing. But has anyone noticed that it's 2 different males? So clearly something going on with the whole sequence.
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Post by: Astronoë on Dec 26, 2016, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: Gramster on Dec 26, 2016, 07:23:38 PM
I'm not posting here very often, but I have to mention what a bunch of whining naysaying second-guessing entitled-to-Alien-the-way-I-want-it fanheads have assembled around here.

This looks like a pre-sequel that fits, and its ironic that the trailer seems to be a reaction to the confusion that Prometheus delivered - most people who watch this will want what an Alien franchise should deliver; scares thrills and a bodycount - doesn't mean that Ridley will be holding back on more mysteries, - but he's figured that, in the short term, mystery in the trailer doesn't put bums on seats on the opening weekend, but hey, once you're there popcorn in trembling hand, he can deliver his mysteries in his own sweet time.

I'm all for this, can't wait to see what happens in May.

We are the ones who waited for Rogue One, we refuse to dr00l along with you for the Force Awakens.

What I saw was a 'memberBerry trailer...

I wonder, are you excited for the new Blade runner movie too?
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Post by: The Joker on Dec 26, 2016, 11:08:33 PM
Not sure if this has been talked about in the thread, but there's a reason behind that shower sex scene in the trailer.

MINOR spoilers
Spoiler

Was watching a Katherine Waterson interview. She revealed that the group of people that are aboard the ship are going to the planet to colonize it. Each of them has a soulmate/significant other aboard the ship and therefor there "objective" would be to reproduce in order to populate the planet. Thought I'd pass this along for those that thought the scene was completely out of place, though I still don't like it being in the trailer. Should make sense in the movie, I suppose.
[close]
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 26, 2016, 11:38:35 PM
David in Engineer's cloak.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Farticles%2Falien-covenant-trailer-analysis-david-engineer-cloak-73.jpg&hash=858687b12eb49570f06b8c1b5c6a4f9c2eb95632)
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Post by: OpenMaw on Dec 26, 2016, 11:42:12 PM
It's just silly for two people to start f**king when there's an active crisis. Even in the immediate wake of a crisis. It just doesn't seem a natural reaction.

In Aliens, the flirtation between Hicks and Ripley is so subtle and mostly under-the-radar. "It doesn't mean we're engaged or anything." "I want to introduce you to a personal friend of mine." There's low-level innuendo. But they were never dumb enough to slip away and start banging while Newt was asleep or something.

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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 26, 2016, 11:45:36 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 26, 2016, 11:38:35 PM
David in Engineer's cloak.

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I am glad I wasn't the only one who thought that. It definitely reminds me of the Engineer's robes and hoods from the beginning of Prometheus and in that deleted scene with the Elders. They all wore something that looked like that, same look and even materials if I remember it right.
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Post by: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 11:58:03 PM
Quote from: The Joker on Dec 26, 2016, 11:08:33 PM
Not sure if this has been talked about in the thread, but there's a reason behind that shower sex scene in the trailer.

MINOR spoilers
Spoiler

Was watching a Katherine Waterson interview. She revealed that the group of people that are aboard the ship are going to the planet to colonize it. Each of them has a soulmate/significant other aboard the ship and therefor there "objective" would be to reproduce in order to populate the planet. Thought I'd pass this along for those that thought the scene was completely out of place, though I still don't like it being in the trailer. Should make sense in the movie, I suppose.
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I dont have a problem with it personally, but I would imagine those that do have more of an issue with the fact it's in the film to begin with than any of the plot reasoning behind it. Two people having sex doesn't need much justification.
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Post by: Rankles75 on Dec 26, 2016, 11:59:23 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 26, 2016, 11:42:12 PM
It's just silly for two people to start f**king when there's an active crisis. Even in the immediate wake of a crisis. It just doesn't seem a natural reaction.

In Aliens, the flirtation between Hicks and Ripley is so subtle and mostly under-the-radar. "It doesn't mean we're engaged or anything." "I want to introduce you to a personal friend of mine." There's low-level innuendo. But they were never dumb enough to slip away and start banging while Newt was asleep or something.

Unlike Alien 3, where Ripley turned into a dumb bitch who jumped straight in bed with Clemens...
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Post by: windebieste on Dec 27, 2016, 12:01:38 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 26, 2016, 11:42:12 PM
It's just silly for two people to start f**king when there's an active crisis. Even in the immediate wake of a crisis. It just doesn't seem a natural reaction.

Maybe... then again, we don't know where that scene takes place in the movie - if it does at all. It may have been shot specifically for promotional content.  We might not see it in the movie at all.

On the other hand, it may just as easily be the final scene in 'ALIEN: Covenant'.  The movie could be in its closing stages when this happens.  All the mayhem is over and these 2 have gotten off the planet, apparently safely.  They decide to celebrate their hard won victory by engaging in some shower lovin' aboard the Covenant.  Then Big Ol' Smily pops up and says "BOO!" End of Movie.  Roll the credits. 

Honestly, is it outside the question the Alien will sneak aboard the ship at the end?  It's a trope in this series.  We've been told it appears at the end of the movie.  I've got no problem with if its' treated as a cliff hanger.  It would make for a welcome change having the Alien survive at the end of one of these movies; and take what's almost a cliche and use it as an impetus to open up a sequel. 

How would that be?  Waiting for 2 years, knowing that the Covenant is still in orbit around Paradise with an unknown number of survivors on board and one of those things pacing its hallways?  I would actually like that as a cliffhanger...

Either way, yes.  Context is important for a sex scene.

-Windebieste.

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Post by: EuanDewar on Dec 27, 2016, 12:02:54 AM
Most of the crew in Alien are f**king off-screen. Because they're a small group of humans with normal human urges in a cramped environment. Promiscuity is perfectly reasonable. I mean... "dumb bitch"? Really?
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Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 12:07:11 AM
Quote from: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: IAmNotASmartMan on Dec 26, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Regarding the trailer being released on Christmas Day, my opinion is that this is no coincidence, and if you all remember, the Prometheus crew first entered the pyramid on Christmas Day.

Charlie Holloway: Captain, would you please tell the survey to suit up and meet us in the airlock.
Janek: There's only six hours left of daylight. Why don't you leave it till the morning.
Charlie Holloway: No, no, no. It's Christmas, captain, and I want to open my presents.

Coincidence? I think not!  :)
I was under the impression that was a joke. He was saying he was excited like a kid on Christmas eve, not that it was literally Christmas.

No, it was literally Christmas. 

QuoteI wonder, are you excited for the new Blade runner movie too?

Bloody oath!
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 27, 2016, 12:09:04 AM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 26, 2016, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: Gramster on Dec 26, 2016, 07:23:38 PM
I'm not posting here very often, but I have to mention what a bunch of whining naysaying second-guessing entitled-to-Alien-the-way-I-want-it fanheads have assembled around here.

This looks like a pre-sequel that fits, and its ironic that the trailer seems to be a reaction to the confusion that Prometheus delivered - most people who watch this will want what an Alien franchise should deliver; scares thrills and a bodycount - doesn't mean that Ridley will be holding back on more mysteries, - but he's figured that, in the short term, mystery in the trailer doesn't put bums on seats on the opening weekend, but hey, once you're there popcorn in trembling hand, he can deliver his mysteries in his own sweet time.

I'm all for this, can't wait to see what happens in May.

We are the ones who waited for Rogue One, we refuse to dr00l along with you for the Force Awakens.

What I saw was a 'memberBerry trailer...

I wonder, are you excited for the new Blade runner movie too?

Rogue One was far more "memberBerry" than The Force Awakens. Although The Force Awakens hit most of the same notes as A New Hope, Rogue One was blatant full frontal nostalgic pornography. I'm still trying to figure out which film is worse. They're both pretty awful. I bet George Lucas is secretly laughing his ass off at how bad Disney is messing up Star Wars. Say what you will about the prequels, but the story/plot and action sequences were extremely unique. Disney has gotten the original trilogy aesthetic down, but both films are extremely hollow. The actors are all seemingly winking at the camera for two hours. But alas, enough with Disney's abomination.

I see a lot of people grumbling about AVP:R. Does anyone actually believe Scott would deliver a film like AVP:R? Even though I get some enjoyment out AVP:R, Scott is in a league of his own when it comes to visual storytelling. Scott is a master, and although it looks like he had to compromise with Fox on some of the decisions ( putting the alien back in the film ), he's not going to film a crap script in this saga. I realize that Prometheus wasn't perfect, and that its script has gotten quite a bit of criticism, but it wasn't that bad. Honestly. It wasn't. This is just my opinion, obviously, but anyone thinking Convenant will be on a quality level of AVP:R needs to take a deep breath and relax. It's going to be much better, especially on a technical level. :)
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Post by: Alien Grand Master on Dec 27, 2016, 12:23:42 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Dec 27, 2016, 12:01:38 AM
It would make for a welcome change having the Alien survive at the end of one of these movies; and take what's almost a cliche and use it as an impetus to open up a sequel. 

If this is the movie where the Alien is indeed created, and it is a prequel or pre-prequel to Alien, then the Alien MUST survive the movie, or at least provide offspring before it goes out.  I too would like to see an alternate ending in the Alien Franchise.   
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Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 12:26:26 AM
The eggs 'surviving' after the first one was the impetus for the second.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 27, 2016, 12:37:50 AM
Now we know what the hand sculpt belonged to!


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0j9iaqXUAE5WXk.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fu%2Falien--covenant-alien-hand-creation-10.jpg&hash=fa2a2a264dced5869272c06b7228dec4dac2bc53)
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Post by: a bit twitchy on Dec 27, 2016, 12:49:47 AM
Danny McBride looks like he's acting his ass off in this. Great acting in each of his scenes. Impressive.
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Post by: Astronoë on Dec 27, 2016, 12:58:43 AM
Oh wow comparing rogue one to a new trilogy is all kinds of fail. Rogue one is attached to the old trilogy that's why it fits in.

Force awakens is supposed to be  new trilogy but shamessly attaches itself to old trilogy, screwing over fans that expected something new.

Rogue One is the best SW movie since Empire strikes back, no goddamn cute muppet teddy-bears defeating the Empire or Jar jar or Mary sue Rey.
I can't take you seriously when u compare Rogue One (have u even seen it?) to Force Awakens...

That you have so much un-called faith for Ridley after Prometheus is ridiculous...skepticism is legitimate.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 27, 2016, 01:32:55 AM
Actually the world has seen it and its been getting great review!!
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Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 27, 2016, 01:55:33 AM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 27, 2016, 12:37:50 AM
Now we know what the hand sculpt belonged to!


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0j9iaqXUAE5WXk.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fu%2Falien--covenant-alien-hand-creation-10.jpg&hash=fa2a2a264dced5869272c06b7228dec4dac2bc53)

Still can't completely tell. Is that five fingers or six and one isn't visible?
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 27, 2016, 02:11:02 AM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 27, 2016, 12:58:43 AM
Oh wow comparing rogue one to a new trilogy is all kinds of fail. Rogue one is attached to the old trilogy that's why it fits in.

Force awakens is supposed to be  new trilogy but shamessly attaches itself to old trilogy, screwing over fans that expected something new.

Rogue One is the best SW movie since Empire strikes back, no goddamn cute muppet teddy-bears defeating the Empire or Jar jar or Mary sue Rey.
I can't take you seriously when u compare Rogue One (have u even seen it?) to Force Awakens...

That you have so much un-called faith for Ridley after Prometheus is ridiculous...skepticism is legitimate.

Yes, I have seen Rogue One. I didn't care for it. And it is comparable to The Force Awakens in the context we're referring to. Not only is it the second film from Disney, it's littered with references to the original trilogy. References that serve no other purpose other than to wink at the audience. Both films from Disney do this, but Rogue One goes far and beyond what is necessary. Hey, if you liked it, great, but don't act like the two films have nothing in common. And yes, I'm giving Scott the benefit of the doubt because he directed the original film in this saga, and he just directed Prometheus, which is at least the third best film in the saga ( in my opinion ). I can't take anyone seriously when they start comparing Scott's work to that of the brothers Strause. That's nonsense. People can hate on Prometheus all they want, but at least it wasn't the same recycled trash we've been getting from the Alien series ( and AVP ) for over a decade. If anyone actually believes that Covenant is going to be on the same level of film making as AVP:R, I just don't know what to tell them.
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Post by: Alien³ on Dec 27, 2016, 02:26:53 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 27, 2016, 02:11:02 AM
yes, I'm giving Scott the benefit of the doubt because he directed the original film in this saga, and he just directed Prometheus, which is at least the third best film in the saga ( in my opinion ). I can't take anyone seriously when they start comparing Scott's work to that of the brothers Strause. That's nonsense. People can hate on Prometheus all they want, but at least it wasn't the same recycled trash we've been getting from the Alien series ( and AVP ) for over a decade. If anyone actually believes that Covenant is going to be on the same level of film making as AVP:R, I just don't know what to tell them.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/NnGGHE0muVqpO/giphy.gif)

I think its ridiculous how jaded the vocal collective reaction to this trailer has been.
Spoiler
including this one :-*
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It's a sequel/prequel in an established franchise. If you seek different elements of story devices, either in writing or on set production etc we live in a universe where we have the luxury of thousands of other franchises which tell other stories. Go explore! Alien is what Alien is. Has been since '79.
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 27, 2016, 02:32:13 AM
Lol Prometheus(my favorite entry) made it clear that Alien is not what Alien is, and that Alien can be a host of other things. It redefined an Alien-universe film. I'm excited for Covenant, but it does look like a straight thriller with the exploitative nature of AvP:R in some scenes.

Let people have their differing opinions.
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Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 27, 2016, 02:37:58 AM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 27, 2016, 12:37:50 AM
Now we know what the hand sculpt belonged to!


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0j9iaqXUAE5WXk.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fu%2Falien--covenant-alien-hand-creation-10.jpg&hash=fa2a2a264dced5869272c06b7228dec4dac2bc53)

I don't think these hands look the same.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 27, 2016, 03:51:42 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 27, 2016, 02:37:58 AM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 27, 2016, 12:37:50 AM
Now we know what the hand sculpt belonged to!


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0j9iaqXUAE5WXk.jpg)


(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fu%2Falien--covenant-alien-hand-creation-10.jpg&hash=fa2a2a264dced5869272c06b7228dec4dac2bc53)

I don't think these hands look the same.

thats because theyre not the same hands...not even close
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Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 27, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
'Stanley' is a Neomorph hand.
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Post by: Ragonk_Force on Dec 27, 2016, 05:43:32 AM
The shower scene has the potential to be really nasty. I love the trailer more with each veiwing, i think its fantastic
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Post by: Mr.Turok on Dec 27, 2016, 06:08:02 AM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Dec 27, 2016, 05:43:32 AM
The shower scene has the potential to be really nasty. I love the trailer more with each veiwing, i think its fantastic
I'm glad to know that the movie is not going to shy away from being bloody and gory when it needs to be. Not saying that it should be filled with it to the gills, but the Alien universe ain't no PG-13 and I'm glad they didn't cut it down to size.
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 27, 2016, 06:13:30 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
The thing that completely mystifies me about this trailer is the release date.  Christmas Day.

Christmas Day?  Really..? 

How much more disconnected with everything that Christmas means to people can you get? 

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "when should we release a major movie trailer featuring hideous monsters shredding up the crew of a space ship when people need it the least?"

Fox Marketing Exec #2:   "How about Christmas?"

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "Excellent idea!  No one needs any more of that 'Joy to the World' and 'Goodwill to All' stuff on Christmas Day as much as they need a gory scary ALIEN trailer.  Let's do it!"

Seriously, though, why release an 'ALIEN' trailer of all things on Christmas Day?  I just don't get it...

-Windebieste.

I can't believe you're the only one who's voiced this so far.  I took the time to read this thread from the beginning.  Releasing this type of thing on Christmas Day to take advantage of a Christian holiday is an insult to Christianity.  It was very tasteless to release the trailer on Christmas.  As much as I think this is a marketing decision, I also get the sense that Scott has a bit of a disdain for Christianity.
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Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 27, 2016, 06:20:09 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 27, 2016, 02:32:13 AM
Lol Prometheus(my favorite entry) made it clear that Alien is not what Alien is, and that Alien can be a host of other things. It redefined an Alien-universe film. I'm excited for Covenant, but it does look like a straight thriller with the exploitative nature of AvP:R in some scenes.

Let people have their differing opinions.

No way. Even at his worst, Ser Ridley is leaps and bounds above the Brothers Strause.
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Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 27, 2016, 06:22:38 AM
I'm honestly more looking forward to the "Best of Ridley Scott" video compilation than the movie. I'm sure Ridley will have some funny shit to say about it. :)
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Post by: Stolen on Dec 27, 2016, 06:39:41 AM
Do you have a link to download the trailer in high definition? And nobody makes gifs?  ;D
The landscapes are so beautiful, the artistic direction looks very good, the actors quite good and the atmosphere seems oppressive and terrifying.
It's a shame that it reveals a few dead, but absolutely nothing about the story that interests me (the two david, engineers, terraforming, shaw ...)which is probably a good thing!

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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 27, 2016, 06:54:19 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 27, 2016, 02:37:58 AM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Dec 27, 2016, 12:37:50 AM
Now we know what the hand sculpt belonged to!


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0j9iaqXUAE5WXk.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fu%2Falien--covenant-alien-hand-creation-10.jpg&hash=fa2a2a264dced5869272c06b7228dec4dac2bc53)

I don't think these hands look the same.

Not at all.  They're completely different hands.
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Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 27, 2016, 06:57:15 AM
That's assuming it's a "hand". It may be something we haven't seen before? I know hand is the obvious answer at this point but it's bloody huge.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 27, 2016, 07:08:06 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Dec 27, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
'Stanley' is a Neomorph hand.

Stanley is actually a brand of tools and thats a Stanley tool box in the BG ;)
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 27, 2016, 07:10:42 AM
Ok, I have to mention the song in the trailer.  It's called Nature Boy, and while it was sung by Aurora, it's originally a Nat King Cole tune from the '40's.  The full lyrics are below, and I wonder if the latter part of the song is not more in tune with humanity's ultimate purpose.  The notion that "love" may be our main purpose for existence, may in fact be something that is intentionally going to be explored here.

There was a boy
A very strange enchanted boy
They say he wandered very far, very far
Over land and sea
A little shy and sad of eye
But very wise was he

And then one day
A magic day he passed my way
And while we spoke of many things
Fools and kings
This he said to me
The greatest thing you'll ever learn
Is just to love and be loved in return

The greatest thing you'll ever learn
Is just to love and be loved in return

Also, wasn't this song in another trailer recently about a kid who has monsters in his life?  I can't remember for the life of me what that film was called.  Anyone?

It was actually written by Eden Ahbez

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_Boy
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Post by: Darkness on Dec 27, 2016, 07:11:44 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 27, 2016, 06:13:30 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Dec 26, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
The thing that completely mystifies me about this trailer is the release date.  Christmas Day.

Christmas Day?  Really..? 

How much more disconnected with everything that Christmas means to people can you get? 

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "when should we release a major movie trailer featuring hideous monsters shredding up the crew of a space ship when people need it the least?"

Fox Marketing Exec #2:   "How about Christmas?"

Fox Marketing Exec #1:  "Excellent idea!  No one needs any more of that 'Joy to the World' and 'Goodwill to All' stuff on Christmas Day as much as they need a gory scary ALIEN trailer.  Let's do it!"

Seriously, though, why release an 'ALIEN' trailer of all things on Christmas Day?  I just don't get it...

-Windebieste.

I can't believe you're the only one who's voiced this so far.  I took the time to read this thread from the beginning.  Releasing this type of thing on Christmas Day to take advantage of a Christian holiday is an insult to Christianity.  It was very tasteless to release the trailer on Christmas.  As much as I think this is a marketing decision, I also get the sense that Scott has a bit of a disdain for Christianity.

Yeah, I wasn't happy with it either but for different reasons. I didn't think it would get much exposure at that time when people are busy with other stuff. I can see why they've done it. Christmas is pretty slow for news, nothing much gets posted. So this trailer is going to stay on the frontpage of many news sites for the entire holidays. It's just like releasing AvPR on Christmas Day and playing into the whole Christmas theme with the silent night trailers they did.
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Post by: DaddyYautja on Dec 27, 2016, 07:23:16 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 27, 2016, 02:11:02 AM

. People can hate on Prometheus all they want, but at least it wasn't the same recycled trash we've been getting from the Alien series ( and AVP ) for over a decade.

Prom was pretty much a ripoff of AVP.
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Post by: PsyKore on Dec 27, 2016, 08:48:07 AM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Dec 27, 2016, 05:43:32 AM
The shower scene has the potential to be really nasty. I love the trailer more with each veiwing, i think its fantastic
Yeah I think so too. I think this movie will be a lot of fun. ;D
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Post by: Predatorium on Dec 27, 2016, 09:19:17 AM
It was posted on Christmas Day because Prometheus ended on Christmas Day as Shaw kisses her cross and heads off with David on the next adventure. The whole concept of these two movies is creation and belief, in spirit with religion.
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Post by: Protozoid on Dec 27, 2016, 09:32:37 AM
Quote from: Predatorium on Dec 27, 2016, 09:19:17 AM
It was posted on Christmas Day because Prometheus ended on Christmas Day as Shaw kisses her cross and heads off with David on the next adventure. The whole concept of these two movies is creation and belief, in spirit with religion.
They landed around Christmas, or Cuddles was born on Christmas, and the movie ends on New Year's Day. Janek says, "It's Christmas" the day they wake up, and Holloway says "It's Christmas and I want to open my presents" right before they explore the ruins for the first time. But you are mostly correct that Prometheus has a Christmas theme and setting. It's one of the great unconventional Christmas classics, like Die Hard and Eyes Wide Shut.
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Post by: Predatorium on Dec 27, 2016, 09:43:29 AM
Elisabeth Shaw is quite a revolutionary character. She's a devoted Christian who believes in her God but unlike most others She doesn't confide herself in the belief that all answers are already written in a thousands of years old book but instead continues to search for the truth and is willing to use science to help her. I believe many Christians could learn a thing or two from her.
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Post by: OWLF on Dec 27, 2016, 09:50:17 AM
Not too impressed by the trailer, to be honest. The intro was awful, looked like some amateur shot that scene. The rest looked good. Alot of Prometheus and Aliens callbacks, but that was to be expected. FX looked decent, but not too happy about the color palette, everything´s a bit too dark and bit too teal colored IMO. And that shower scene, oh my.... better not talk about it.

Maybe it´s just a badly cut trailer and it actually turns out to be a decent/good movie after all. We´ll see.
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 27, 2016, 09:52:03 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 27, 2016, 12:09:04 AM
Rogue One was far more "memberBerry" than The Force Awakens. Although The Force Awakens hit most of the same notes as A New Hope, Rogue One was blatant full frontal nostalgic pornography. I'm still trying to figure out which film is worse. They're both pretty awful. I bet George Lucas is secretly laughing his ass off at how bad Disney is messing up Star Wars. Say what you will about the prequels, but the story/plot and action sequences were extremely unique. Disney has gotten the original trilogy aesthetic down, but both films are extremely hollow. The actors are all seemingly winking at the camera for two hours. But alas, enough with Disney's abomination.

I see a lot of people grumbling about AVP:R. Does anyone actually believe Scott would deliver a film like AVP:R? Even though I get some enjoyment out AVP:R, Scott is in a league of his own when it comes to visual storytelling. Scott is a master, and although it looks like he had to compromise with Fox on some of the decisions ( putting the alien back in the film ), he's not going to film a crap script in this saga. I realize that Prometheus wasn't perfect, and that its script has gotten quite a bit of criticism, but it wasn't that bad. Honestly. It wasn't. This is just my opinion, obviously, but anyone thinking Convenant will be on a quality level of AVP:R needs to take a deep breath and relax. It's going to be much better, especially on a technical level. :)
Amen brother... totally with you on all that (although I enjoyed Rogue One much more than The Force Awakens). Alien:Covenant will be a couple of notches above most sci-fi/horror films at a minimum...
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 27, 2016, 10:15:45 AM
i am just really concerned that this negative vibe on forums hurts the movie at the B.O and we don't get to see more of the franchise after covenant. .the trailer in my opinion is excellent. .apart from spoiling a few death scenes. .i am a big fan both Prometheus and Alien and i am super hyped. . I am hoping that this negativity on the net does not hurt the franchise. . Hopefully the casual fan will still be eager to go watch the movie. .
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 27, 2016, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: juxtapose on Dec 27, 2016, 10:15:45 AM
i am just really concerned that this negative vibe on forums hurts the movie at the B.O and we don't get to see more of the franchise after covenant. .the trailer in my opinion is excellent. .apart from spoiling a few death scenes. .i am a big fan both Prometheus and Alien and i am super hyped. . I am hoping that this negativity on the net does not hurt the franchise. . Hopefully the casual fan will still be eager to go watch the movie. .
If Alien Covenant is a good/well made film, audiences will watch it regardless of any on-line opinions. No worries there. If it's a turkey, then it's a turkey... but that will be as a result of the film rather than fan reaction to a trailer...
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Post by: PRJ_since1990 on Dec 27, 2016, 10:40:30 AM
Hey folks. Finally got around to watching this and I recorded my first viewing of it! Take a look! I also give a brief opinion afterwards. Check it out and let me know what you all think!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWA-oR4IjBo&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 27, 2016, 11:30:35 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 27, 2016, 02:11:02 AM
If anyone actually believes that Covenant is going to be on the same level of film making as AVP:R, I just don't know what to tell them.

I know what to tell them ... but I'll keep it for myself ;)
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Post by: szkoki on Dec 27, 2016, 11:46:43 AM
just to show what a joke this trailer is this scene comes in my mind :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-q-AWD_8AY&feature=youtu.be&t=50


also applies to Prometheus :D


im waiting to see the "ill be back" line in this movie :D
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Post by: vortep on Dec 27, 2016, 12:41:26 PM
Is there a download link for the trailer in 1080p?
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Post by: lv_226 on Dec 27, 2016, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: Predatorium on Dec 27, 2016, 09:43:29 AM
Elisabeth Shaw is quite a revolutionary character. She's a devoted Christian who believes in her God but unlike most others She doesn't confide herself in the belief that all answers are already written in a thousands of years old book but instead continues to search for the truth and is willing to use science to help her. I believe many Christians could learn a thing or two from her.
Great character, indeed. I would really love to see more of her in Covenant.
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Post by: hfeldhaus on Dec 27, 2016, 02:31:58 PM
Guy Pukes Watching Alien: Covenant trailer.

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https://youtu.be/dUdazW1TtqA (https://youtu.be/dUdazW1TtqA)
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 27, 2016, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Dec 27, 2016, 09:07:44 AM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 27, 2016, 07:23:16 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 27, 2016, 02:11:02 AM

. People can hate on Prometheus all they want, but at least it wasn't the same recycled trash we've been getting from the Alien series ( and AVP ) for over a decade.

Prom was pretty much a ripoff of AVP.
Lolwut

In some places of Prometheus it did seem like a ripoff. Mostly in the first act.
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Post by: Alien Grand Master on Dec 27, 2016, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: Predatorium on Dec 27, 2016, 09:43:29 AM
Elisabeth Shaw is quite a revolutionary character. She's a devoted Christian who believes in her God but unlike most others She doesn't confide herself in the belief that all answers are already written in a thousands of years old book but instead continues to search for the truth and is willing to use science to help her. I believe many Christians could learn a thing or two from her.

I actually hated the religious aspect of Shaw's character.  In the very beginning of Prometheus the only evidence she presents in the movie for their expedition is the star map, and that 'she believes'.  She also backs dumb statements later on without evidence, like 'they created us', 'its a weapons facility'.

The worst part about the movie is that it indulges her by being right.  Any self respecting scientist knows to withhold belief before compelling evidence can be presented.  I could go on all day about Prometheus's anti-science agenda but I won't since its not a Prometheus thread.
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 27, 2016, 06:01:23 PM
Quote from: Alien Grand Master on Dec 27, 2016, 04:04:18 PM
I actually hated the religious aspect of Shaw's character.

Same here. It was very childish. Main character who is scientist and devoted Christian in Alien movie? I don't buy it.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 27, 2016, 06:16:26 PM
actually, i was kind of hoping the teaser trailer wouldve been cut using the Prometheus/Alien music and paced like the one above. Im happy either way, though i prefer the Prometheus cut shown above just for nostalgic reasons (and audio creation reasons too heheheh, i LOVE the sounds used in the Prometheus teaser)
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 10:53:34 PM
Actually Fox green lighting a shit script by Shane Salerno is what got us AvPR.

I'm still hoping to see that Afghanistan script he did. If he ever finished it, that is. I can't really remember?


Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 11:10:25 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 25, 2016, 11:02:36 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 25, 2016, 10:58:49 PM
If this is cheap then I'm Papa Emeritus ;)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-029.jpg)
You're doing a fantastically good job of missing the point.

You're doing a fantastically good job of grumbling. Don't stop please. The funniest thing is that you are gonna pay a ticket to see this "cheap" film in cinema.

I thought I'd already commented on this and I've not read ahead in the thread yet so apologies if another mod has already chipped in but let's chill out please. It's quite clear this trailer has been quite divisive. Let's not take to insulting those who don't have an opinion you agree with. You discuss it maturely. I wont have immature bickering here.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 27, 2016, 08:00:38 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 10:53:34 PM
Actually Fox green lighting a shit script by Shane Salerno is what got us AvPR.

I'm still hoping to see that Afghanistan script he did. If he ever finished it, that is. I can't really remember?

I think that was a treatment, but don't quote me on that. I know there wasn't a full script for it because the idea got rejected by the big boys because they wanted to do something much "safer".
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 27, 2016, 08:05:24 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
Let's not take to insulting those who don't have an opinion you agree with. You discuss it maturely. I wont have immature bickering here.

Sorry guys! Won't happen again.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 08:06:59 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Dec 26, 2016, 12:13:48 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 25, 2016, 11:47:53 PM


Quote from: Ultramorph on Dec 25, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
There's actually no evidence, even in the leaks, that
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David in any way creates the xenomorphs, much less that the Derelict from the original film will wind up being he and Shaw.
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Spoiler
Have you seen all 4chan leaks? One said the classic alien is biomechanical because David mixed his android dna or whatever I have no idea what it meant with the neomorphs that are "flesh" aliens, thus making the classic alien.
Ridley said the Prometheus sequels would lead to Alien and explain the origins of the aliens. How else could those movies lead to Alien? I think he meants he wants to explain how the ship from LV-426 crashed and how the aliens there were created.
I dont believe 100% in that, there are a lots of trolls in 4chan and they might change things until the final release.[a/spoiler]
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The 4chan leaks that Hicks have basically vouched for don't say that.
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They mention a "protomorph" but we just think that's the writer being a bit confused because the xeno in this movie acts more like an animal than the one in the first film, There's a different 4chan post about David mixing his mechanics with a pro-xenomorph, but that has been debunked.

Scott has said that he wants to eventually get around to showing how the Derelict wound up on LV-426, but that quote is a few years old at this point, and even if that's still his intention, it's highly unlikely he would do something so likely to upset fans as have it turn out to be Shaw.
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There was another 4chan guy claiming that there was like a Waltermorph or some crap that Scified ran. That guy was definitely a load of crap.


Quote from: MajorB on Dec 26, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 26, 2016, 09:49:32 AM
I actually really like the track.
I feel like it would have worked better for a trailer that emphasized David and the more Prometheus elements of the story. When you're using a song that is pointedly referencing David in an ad that's all about the aliens, it creates a weird disconnect where the music choice is both on the nose and totally inappropriate. It doesn't help that the timing was unlucky in that people are finally sick of the sad husky-voiced lady doing a song cover trend in trailers and are taking out their frustration on this one.

And yeah, it does spoil a bit too much. I personally don't mind because the I spoiled the whole movie for myself already, but it reeks of overcompensating due to people's confusion with the tone and plot of Prometheus. This one is SCARY and it has XENOMORPHS and it plays out HOW YOU'D EXPECT.

We're on the same brain-wave there. I agree with pretty much everything you just said in that post.
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 27, 2016, 08:20:43 PM
It looks like Covenant is more a prequel to Alien than sequel to Prometheus. Besides we have to wait to see 2 trailer + viral stuff.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 04:19:54 PM
Christmas time, aye, but not literally Christmas day.

Prometheus was set on Christmas. There's a deleted scene of Janek putting up a Christmas tree and talking about it.




Quote from: Keith on Dec 26, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
It looks like an Alien reboot, with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in.

Not sure I'd go that far. It's going to follow some of the same conventions but it seems more like it's a retry of Prometheus to me. Just hope it's not too much of an overcompensation.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 27, 2016, 08:27:10 PM
one thing i REALLY like about the trailer is that it shys away from revealing any of the actual "details" that were all craving... rather the questions we want answered from Prometheus! the trailer just really showed the obvious: Neomorph back bursting, spore based accelerant, the crash landed ship from Prometheus, the facehugger and, last but not least, the proto-xeno.

We still get to wait for all the juicy details like... what happened to Shaw? what happened during the trip to "Paradise"? how did David get his head back on? answers to what exactly is going on in Davids lab (leaked photos)? what the 2nd Neomorph (or 3rd or 4th) will look like? How did David go about creating the Neomoprhs? how different the proto-Xenos will look (super long hand digits in trailer)? what the hell happened to all of the Engineers on the planet (again, leaked photos)? etc etc etc

Im still convined that the trailer is really only events that unfold during the first 45 minutes of the film (something tells me total run time is AT LEAST 2 hours and 15 minutes to 2 hours and 45 minutes if were lucky)
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 27, 2016, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 08:21:41 PMPrometheus was set on Christmas. There's a deleted scene of Janek putting up a Christmas tree and talking about it.

The scene with him and the tree is in the theatrical cut, it's just a lot shorter.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: a bit twitchy on Dec 27, 2016, 12:49:47 AM
Danny McBride looks like he's acting his ass off in this. Great acting in each of his scenes. Impressive.

I think McBride's bits were some of the greatest. It looks like he's putting his all into this. Really digging it.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 27, 2016, 08:32:55 PM
Best line in the whole movie... "Havent had the breakfast yet" lol ;)
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 08:33:57 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Dec 27, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
'Stanley' is a Neomorph hand.

Lol. I'd forgot about Stanley.  :laugh:


Quote from: juxtapose on Dec 27, 2016, 10:15:45 AM
i am just really concerned that this negative vibe on forums hurts the movie at the B.O and we don't get to see more of the franchise after covenant. .the trailer in my opinion is excellent. .apart from spoiling a few death scenes. .i am a big fan both Prometheus and Alien and i am super hyped. . I am hoping that this negativity on the net does not hurt the franchise. . Hopefully the casual fan will still be eager to go watch the movie. .

We're small fry, I wouldn't worry about that. The masses seemed to like Prometheus despite a lot of complaining that goes on at various fan outlets.


Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 27, 2016, 08:00:38 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 10:53:34 PM
Actually Fox green lighting a shit script by Shane Salerno is what got us AvPR.

I'm still hoping to see that Afghanistan script he did. If he ever finished it, that is. I can't really remember?

I think that was a treatment, but don't quote me on that. I know there wasn't a full script for it because the idea got rejected by the big boys because they wanted to do something much "safer".

Thanks. Couldn't really remember the whole story. I'd be interested in seeing the treatment. And Whedeon's non-Ripley Alien 4 treatment. Hope they show up some day.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 27, 2016, 08:50:09 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 08:33:57 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Dec 27, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
'Stanley' is a Neomorph hand.

Lol. I'd forgot about Stanley.  :laugh:


Quote from: juxtapose on Dec 27, 2016, 10:15:45 AM
i am just really concerned that this negative vibe on forums hurts the movie at the B.O and we don't get to see more of the franchise after covenant. .the trailer in my opinion is excellent. .apart from spoiling a few death scenes. .i am a big fan both Prometheus and Alien and i am super hyped. . I am hoping that this negativity on the net does not hurt the franchise. . Hopefully the casual fan will still be eager to go watch the movie. .

We're small fry, I wouldn't worry about that. The masses seemed to like Prometheus despite a lot of complaining that goes on at various fan outlets.


Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 27, 2016, 08:00:38 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 25, 2016, 10:53:34 PM
Actually Fox green lighting a shit script by Shane Salerno is what got us AvPR.

I'm still hoping to see that Afghanistan script he did. If he ever finished it, that is. I can't really remember?

I think that was a treatment, but don't quote me on that. I know there wasn't a full script for it because the idea got rejected by the big boys because they wanted to do something much "safer".

Thanks. Couldn't really remember the whole story. I'd be interested in seeing the treatment. And Whedeon's non-Ripley Alien 4 treatment. Hope they show up some day.

Actually I think the treatment was loosely based around Peter Brigg's version of his Aliens vs Predator screenplay, but only modernized. This is from an old interview when the first AvP was released.

MR: DISGUSTING: So now, obviously, (your AVP draft) will never happen?



PETER BRIGGS: Strangely enough, I was told recently by an exec that Fox might still be interested in doing it, with a bit of reworking. I don't know about that. I think its thunder's been totally blown. Now, I'd sooner write a standalone "Alien" or "Predator" movie, personally. In fact, in '99 -- I think - I went into Joel Silver's and pitched a "Predator" movie set in the 18th Century, but both franchises were in a state of panic-stricken flux then, so....
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Post by: prometheusfire08 on Dec 27, 2016, 08:57:35 PM
I actually don't remember anyone stating that Shaw was a Christian ,??

I also don't think it's safe to assume that just because Shaw wears her father's cross and believes in God that she is a Christian

in fact ..... everything she says and does in prometheus suggest that she actually has a different set of beliefs ........... stating that she chooses her own beliefs alone suggests that her faith lies elsewhere........
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 27, 2016, 10:52:23 PM
Quote from: prometheusfire08 on Dec 27, 2016, 08:57:35 PM
I actually don't remember anyone stating that Shaw was a Christian ,??

She wears a Christian cross necklace. She simply cannot be Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist and so on. It's logical. She's a Christian.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetruthseeker.co.uk%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F01%2Fprometheus10.jpg&hash=85217f7d930bc136d518fbc1c7f56ab100d7981a)
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Post by: prometheusfire08 on Dec 27, 2016, 11:42:34 PM
she wears that cross because it's her father's .............. NOTHING to do with her faith .

if she was a Christian she wouldn't be researching and proving facts that completely destroy her belief system .


also..... just a little FYI
' coughs '

a cross with a circle above it ( also the same as holloways tattoo ) is coptic and actually comes from Egypt ....

it means life .......... it's also got nothing to do with Christianity
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 28, 2016, 12:45:55 AM
Shaw was a completely naive religious wacko
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Post by: Scorpio on Dec 28, 2016, 01:06:57 AM
Quote from: Murph Morph on Dec 28, 2016, 12:45:55 AM
Shaw was a completely naive religious wacko

What were her beliefs, exactly?  She believed we were created by aliens but a higher force 'created them'?..  Yet she wasn't a Christian.
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 01:11:31 AM
Of course she was Christian.  How is that in question?

The idea that a scientist can't also be a believer is incredibly narrow minded. 
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Post by: Scorpio on Dec 28, 2016, 01:15:47 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 01:11:31 AM
Of course she was Christian.

Which denomination?  :P
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 01:17:58 AM
Neither here nor there, but if I were to guess I'd go with Catholic.
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 28, 2016, 01:22:27 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 28, 2016, 01:15:47 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 01:11:31 AM
Of course she was Christian.

Which denomination?  :P

That's not really stated, which denomination.  But she was definitely Christian.  She believed in Jesus.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 28, 2016, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 28, 2016, 01:22:27 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 28, 2016, 01:15:47 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 01:11:31 AM
Of course she was Christian.

Which denomination?  :P

That's not really stated, which denomination.  But she was definitely Christian.  She believed in Jesus.

So do Catholics.
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 28, 2016, 01:59:46 AM
It's heavily implied she's a Christian. It's about as subtle as a brick to the face.
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Post by: Scorpio on Dec 28, 2016, 02:03:00 AM
Maybe some New Age Christianity, though, as I'm pretty sure that the bible teaches that God created man.
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 28, 2016, 03:06:33 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 28, 2016, 02:03:00 AM
Maybe some New Age Christianity, though, as I'm pretty sure that the bible teaches that God created man.

Prometheus actually leaves that open to interpretation because the engineers are human. Or at least that's what I was led to understand as far as them talking about how the dna was a perfect match.
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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 03:19:21 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 28, 2016, 03:06:33 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 28, 2016, 02:03:00 AM
Maybe some New Age Christianity, though, as I'm pretty sure that the bible teaches that God created man.

Prometheus actually leaves that open to interpretation because the engineers are human. Or at least that's what I was led to understand as far as them talking about how the dna was a perfect match.

I can't recall the exact scene, but was it a perfect match? Or 90 something percent? Because from what I remember, they seemed to be comparing the DNA samples and when they matched them, they were very similar but with very small differences.

Regardless, the Engineers are definitely very closely related to us no doubt.
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Post by: prometheusfire08 on Dec 28, 2016, 03:21:18 AM
THEY want us to come and find THEM .

we call them engineer"S"


now I could be wrong but I'm fairly confident that Christians believe in "1" creator ..........
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 03:41:24 AM
It says 'DNA Match'.

Since they're obviously not God as she would believe it , Shaw asks the obvious 'Who created them?'

Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 28, 2016, 02:03:00 AM
Maybe some New Age Christianity, though, as I'm pretty sure that the bible teaches that God created man.

Religion and science aren't mutually exclusive.  The Catholic Church supports theistic evolution.
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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 03:50:56 AM
Thanks for clearing it up, SM. Do you think the Engineers are 100% related to us? As in, closer than Neanderthals and other species from our genus?
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 03:56:47 AM
Hard to tell.  It simply says "Match" which is probably 99.9 something to account for things like skin colour and height (and possibly accelerant corruption).  Perhaps.  I don't know that much about genetics.
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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 04:07:46 AM
I agree, it's most likely 99,9% as they appear more similar to us than Chimps and Neanderthals do. But some of their differences may separate them from us like their odd eyes and as you said, any accelerant corruptions.
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Post by: oduodu on Dec 28, 2016, 04:56:28 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: EuanDewar on Dec 26, 2016, 04:19:54 PM
Christmas time, aye, but not literally Christmas day.

Prometheus was set on Christmas. There's a deleted scene of Janek putting up a Christmas tree and talking about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zAnNsIXFds


Quote from: Keith on Dec 26, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
It looks like an Alien reboot, with Prometheus and Aliens mixed in.

Not sure I'd go that far. It's going to follow some of the same conventions but it seems more like it's a retry of Prometheus to me. Just hope it's not too much of an overcompensation.

"overcompensation" is exactly the way it feels for me. Early days though..


Remember Holloway says to Shaw that she can take off her cross now and she asks why and he says that there ois nothing special about creation as the engineers  created us and she asks who created them.

She is Christian.
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 05:39:57 AM
Indeed.
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Post by: rabidranger on Dec 28, 2016, 05:42:16 AM
The vibe I got from Prometheus is the Engineers might have had a hand in the creation of man but weren't necessarily the "higher power."
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 05:57:41 AM
i would sum up shaw as being an agnostic. . She does not believe in a specific god but in a higher force or higher being.. . Or she has spiritual beliefs. . Were as hollaway was an atheist. . Well thats how i would summon up their beliefs. .


i once read in an interview that scott himself claims to be a devout agnostic. . But then in another interview he claimed to be an atheist. . So i am not entirely sure. . Shaw has spiritual beliefs, but no specific religion. . Thats my understanding of agnostic. .i might be wrong. .
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 06:45:10 AM
A crucifix is pretty specific.
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Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 28, 2016, 06:53:40 AM
The search for God is a major theme in Prometheus.

If we assume that the Engineers had a hand in creating us humans, the question is then are they our God(s) or did God(s) allow the Engineer to create us or provided the means. Is God(s) acting through the Engineers the same as God creating us?

Shaw is most definitely a Christian. She probably believes in an ancient alien theory of some sort that a sentient being from another planet thousands of years ago planted the seeds and then stood by to grow the seeds to make sure that humans came about. Would that not be close enough to the biblical Judeo/Christian/Muslim God?
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 07:17:26 AM
. .she has her own personal religious beliefs. . The cross is a reminder of that and a connection to her father. . I doubt your typical christian is gonna embrace the idea of engineers and neither your typical atheist. . .she is very open minded about religion. .i saw her as a scientist who hung on the speritual ideas. . Christians claim to know exactly were we come from and who and what god is. . Thats not what i got from shaw. .she was looking for answers. . Their was no blind faith. .
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 28, 2016, 07:38:10 AM
My reading of Prometheus (or the Shaw element) was that it was about how faith/beliefs can get tested... and how scientific discovery can in fact affirm and strengthen those faiths/beliefs rather than undermine them. It's circular...
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Post by: oduodu on Dec 28, 2016, 07:49:54 AM
Quote from: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 05:57:41 AM
i would sum up shaw as being an agnostic. . She does not believe in a specific god but in a higher force or higher being.. . Or she has spiritual beliefs. . Were as hollaway was an atheist. . Well thats how i would summon up their beliefs. .


i once read in an interview that scott himself claims to be a devout agnostic. . But then in another interview he claimed to be an atheist. . So i am not entirely sure. . Shaw has spiritual beliefs, but no specific religion. . Thats my understanding of agnostic. .i might be wrong. .

Scott in interview once called himself scientific agnostic.

He definitely digs the scientific stuff.

He also said at one stage that people in spite of all the tech we have now is looking for something higher spiritual. Hence Shaw 's viral video where she states: don't you feel that all the science / tech will never really answer your questions . That was what Prometheus was about in terms of Shaw's  character.

Another example (off topic) is how Scott spoke how easy it is just to walk up to a dam and and throw poison into it make it undrinkable and thousands would suffer before anyone knew as it was the drinking water of a city. Hence the goo.

Etc etc

All current themes.

People are definitely Looking for a higher purpose presence  goal.  And feel abandoned . Most people have no or little connection with a higher presence turns to something else . Fifield turn to drugs another social commentary..
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 07:58:37 AM
Quote from: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 07:17:26 AM
. .she has her own personal religious beliefs. . The cross is a reminder of that and a connection to her father. . I doubt your typical christian is gonna embrace the idea of engineers and neither your typical atheist. . .she is very open minded about religion. .i saw her as a scientist who hung on the speritual ideas. . Christians claim to know exactly were we come from and who and what god is. . Thats not what i got from shaw. .she was looking for answers. . Their was no blind faith. .

Some broad assumptions there.
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 08:31:15 AM
. . I suppose their is asumption their on my part. .some educated guessing. .but the movie was vague about her and religion. . And this is a thread about the trailor. . Gosh have we gone of topic. .lol
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Post by: SiL on Dec 28, 2016, 08:33:00 AM
The film wasn't vague at all about it. She wears a Christian cross, repeatedly talks about God, and says she still believes at the end as she flies off. The only way it could be less vague is if she turned to camera halfway through and said "I am a Christian."
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 09:00:44 AM
. . God as in creator. .plus almost every relogion has a god. . I am not a christian, but i do believe their is a higher power and that we all have a spirit. .and i have family and friends who believe in god. .i am not criticising their faith. . Before anyone jumps to that conclution. . But for me her character just seemed well more spiritual than christian despite the cross. . I think it's up to the viewer to decide . . Perhaps she was a christian. .but not a fundamentalist christian. .
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 09:04:09 AM
Most aren't fundamentalist.
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 09:39:36 AM
. .they mostly not. .fair enough. . And i have met some pretty open minded christians. .
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Post by: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 10:29:16 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 27, 2016, 02:11:02 AM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 27, 2016, 12:58:43 AM
Oh wow comparing rogue one to a new trilogy is all kinds of fail. Rogue one is attached to the old trilogy that's why it fits in.

Force awakens is supposed to be  new trilogy but shamessly attaches itself to old trilogy, screwing over fans that expected something new.

Rogue One is the best SW movie since Empire strikes back, no goddamn cute muppet teddy-bears defeating the Empire or Jar jar or Mary sue Rey.
I can't take you seriously when u compare Rogue One (have u even seen it?) to Force Awakens...

That you have so much un-called faith for Ridley after Prometheus is ridiculous...skepticism is legitimate.

Yes, I have seen Rogue One. I didn't care for it. And it is comparable to The Force Awakens in the context we're referring to. Not only is it the second film from Disney, it's littered with references to the original trilogy. References that serve no other purpose other than to wink at the audience. Both films from Disney do this, but Rogue One goes far and beyond what is necessary. Hey, if you liked it, great, but don't act like the two films have nothing in common. And yes, I'm giving Scott the benefit of the doubt because he directed the original film in this saga, and he just directed Prometheus, which is at least the third best film in the saga ( in my opinion ). I can't take anyone seriously when they start comparing Scott's work to that of the brothers Strause. That's nonsense. People can hate on Prometheus all they want, but at least it wasn't the same recycled trash we've been getting from the Alien series ( and AVP ) for over a decade. If anyone actually believes that Covenant is going to be on the same level of film making as AVP:R, I just don't know what to tell them.

References to the old trilogy? Are you kidding me? It is PART OF the old trilogy, it's the SAME time-line, the ending leads DIRECTLY into the first scene of A New Hope! You would have known this if you had watched the movie, which obviously you haven't. Your answer is exactly the kind of stuff I would expect from someone who has yet to see movie n guessing wildly "well, it looks old n stuff, it takes from old movies just like force awakens..BOOO!!"
Go watch the movie before you come on here n comment on it. Embarrassing really...

I would have had more faith for Ridley if he hadn't involved his name with Bladerunner 2...looks like his principles went out the window as he got older n wanted to relive glory from younger days...(yes, I know he doesn't direct it, but still, he should have kept far away)
as for the trailer, reaction says it very good here..

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Post by: oduodu on Dec 28, 2016, 02:04:08 PM
http://deadline.com/2015/09/ridley-scott-the-martian-star-wars-2001-alien-blade-runner-prometheus-toronto-film-festival-1201522484

A here's the article . Scott calls himself logically agnostic. Note how he thinks that there must have been a civilization  billions of years ago and that evolution is impossible at an mathematical level. There must be a guidance system.
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 03:07:50 PM
. .that was a very interesting and enjoyable read. . .thankyou oduodu!!
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Post by: Murph Morph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:38:25 PM
"The idea that a scientist can't also be a believer is incredibly narrow minded."

Depends on the level of belief, and whether your belief takes over and overshadows rational thinking, like joining a massive expedition to "find our makers" based on paintings(!) because she merely "chose to believe".

Comedy gold right there. That's some prime religious fanatic behaviour, hence my comment that Shaw is a religious and naive wacko.

It is also, again, poor writing like most critics perfectly pointed out, regardless of the other good qualities the film had like the cinematography, art direction etc.
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Post by: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 06:35:25 PM
Is it confirmed that it's Weyland in this shot sitting on that throne? Because it felt like it was David and Walter came in..we see David in the same scene wearing white like the figure that is sitting down.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-029.jpg)

Can anyone identify the throne? I'm take a wild guess, south-east Asian? Indonesian? Some ancient Shiva thingy?
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 28, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 06:35:25 PM
Is it confirmed that it's Weyland in this shot sitting on that throne? Because it felt like it was David and Walter came in..we see David in the same scene wearing white like the figure that is sitting down.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-029.jpg)

I think it's a safe bet.

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/10/29/avpgalaxy-exclusive-guy-pearce-returns-alien-covenant/
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Post by: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 07:06:34 PM
The throne appears to have a red dot/sun similar to what this guy has (some Hindu fundamentalist)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fredraiders.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fstory_slideshow_thumb%2F11742406.jpg&hash=48b68f429892e5cb524efedc4a58adab140911cd)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indiasite.com%2Fadmin%2Fuploads%2Fpersonality%2F634865013870692100_bal%2520thackery2.jpeg&hash=bb4606bbd1bb33c780e3676256998127b128dfc2)
(gaudy monstrosity)
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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 07:12:41 PM
Quote from: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 07:17:26 AM
I doubt your typical christian is gonna embrace the idea of engineers and neither your typical atheist.

Most atheists go by evidence. So if there was evidence that the Engineers created humanity, then atheists would very easily accept the fact that we were created by the Engineers.

That's the thing with atheism, if there was 100% evidence of God, then they'd believe he exists. So why wouldn't they accept Engineers?

Now obviously if some random guy on the streets started claiming we were made by Engineers and doesn't present the evidence for it, then it'd no different from some preacher preaching in public about God from their point of view.

As you saw in Prometheus, Holloway didn't have any problems about us being Engineer creations and even told Shaw she can now drop her faith because there's 100% proof that we're their creations but then she begins asking "who created them?"

I am astonished Holloway didn't throw it at her and say "and who created God?", I would've loved to hear what she would've said.
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Post by: Prometheops on Dec 28, 2016, 08:04:21 PM
The throne appears to be a ?modified Carlo Bugatti art nouveau chair:

http://content.ngv.vic.gov.au/col-images/api/EPUB000236/1280

Not sure if there is some meaning or is simply an aesthetic choice
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Post by: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 08:28:59 PM
No secret escapes this forum, we are now Masters of chairs!  ;D
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Post by: Prometheops on Dec 28, 2016, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 08:28:59 PM
No secret escapes this forum, we are now Masters of chairs!  ;D

;D
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 28, 2016, 08:42:03 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 10:29:16 AM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 27, 2016, 02:11:02 AM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 27, 2016, 12:58:43 AM
Oh wow comparing rogue one to a new trilogy is all kinds of fail. Rogue one is attached to the old trilogy that's why it fits in.

Force awakens is supposed to be  new trilogy but shamessly attaches itself to old trilogy, screwing over fans that expected something new.

Rogue One is the best SW movie since Empire strikes back, no goddamn cute muppet teddy-bears defeating the Empire or Jar jar or Mary sue Rey.
I can't take you seriously when u compare Rogue One (have u even seen it?) to Force Awakens...

That you have so much un-called faith for Ridley after Prometheus is ridiculous...skepticism is legitimate.

Yes, I have seen Rogue One. I didn't care for it. And it is comparable to The Force Awakens in the context we're referring to. Not only is it the second film from Disney, it's littered with references to the original trilogy. References that serve no other purpose other than to wink at the audience. Both films from Disney do this, but Rogue One goes far and beyond what is necessary. Hey, if you liked it, great, but don't act like the two films have nothing in common. And yes, I'm giving Scott the benefit of the doubt because he directed the original film in this saga, and he just directed Prometheus, which is at least the third best film in the saga ( in my opinion ). I can't take anyone seriously when they start comparing Scott's work to that of the brothers Strause. That's nonsense. People can hate on Prometheus all they want, but at least it wasn't the same recycled trash we've been getting from the Alien series ( and AVP ) for over a decade. If anyone actually believes that Covenant is going to be on the same level of film making as AVP:R, I just don't know what to tell them.

References to the old trilogy? Are you kidding me? It is PART OF the old trilogy, it's the SAME time-line, the ending leads DIRECTLY into the first scene of A New Hope! You would have known this if you had watched the movie, which obviously you haven't. Your answer is exactly the kind of stuff I would expect from someone who has yet to see movie n guessing wildly "well, it looks old n stuff, it takes from old movies just like force awakens..BOOO!!"
Go watch the movie before you come on here n comment on it. Embarrassing really...

I would have had more faith for Ridley if he hadn't involved his name with Bladerunner 2...looks like his principles went out the window as he got older n wanted to relive glory from younger days...(yes, I know he doesn't direct it, but still, he should have kept far away)
as for the trailer, reaction says it very good here..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8uPMWSJgP4
In terms of that blogger... she can't even get through a sentence without saying "like". Why on Earth does she think anyone, but semi literates, would be interested in her inane comments?
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 28, 2016, 08:51:04 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 06:35:25 PM
Is it confirmed that it's Weyland in this shot sitting on that throne? Because it felt like it was David and Walter came in..we see David in the same scene wearing white like the figure that is sitting down.

David is the one sitting in the chair, Weyland is the standing figure in the suit.
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 28, 2016, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 01:11:31 AM
Of course she was Christian.  How is that in question?

The idea that a scientist can't also be a believer is incredibly narrow minded.

Agree. Scientist can be (have right to be) a theist but then ... it's incredibly narrow minded approach.
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 09:53:42 PM
QuoteDepends on the level of belief, and whether your belief takes over and overshadows rational thinking, like joining a massive expedition to "find our makers" based on paintings(!) because she merely "chose to believe".

Comedy gold right there. That's some prime religious fanatic behaviour, hence my comment that Shaw is a religious and naive wacko.

She's actively trying to find proof of a creator of humanity that could well challenge, if not prove her religious beliefs wrong - yet apparently she's a religious fanatic...

The claws at which some will clutch to attack Shaws religion are sometimes quite baffling.
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 28, 2016, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 07:12:41 PM
That's the thing with atheism, if there was 100% evidence of God, then they'd believe he exists. So why wouldn't they accept Engineers?

If you have a proof you don't have to believe anymore. You just accept the fact. Belief is not important if you got evidence.
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 28, 2016, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 10:29:16 AM

References to the old trilogy? Are you kidding me? It is PART OF the old trilogy, it's the SAME time-line, the ending leads DIRECTLY into the first scene of A New Hope! You would have known this if you had watched the movie, which obviously you haven't. Your answer is exactly the kind of stuff I would expect from someone who has yet to see movie n guessing wildly "well, it looks old n stuff, it takes from old movies just like force awakens..BOOO!!"
Go watch the movie before you come on here n comment on it. Embarrassing really...


For the last time, I saw the movie. You think I'm not smart enough to know it leads directly into A New Hope? Derp. That's what the whole movie was about. It still had needless reference to the original trilogy. No matter how much you try to spin it, Rogue One is not a part of the original trilogy. It's certainly related, but it's separate at the same time. And yes, a lot of the references were just fan service nostalgia. For instance:
Spoiler
Showing us Ponda Baba and the other outlaw minutes before the death star is used.
[close]
That reference served no other purpose other than to wink at the audience. Quite frankly, I'm starting to wonder if you even saw the film yourself.
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Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 10:44:52 PM
A thread for all your Star Wars bickering needs (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=163.msg2165063#new)
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Post by: Astronoë on Dec 28, 2016, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: newagescamartist on Dec 28, 2016, 10:37:20 PMFor the last time, I saw the movie. You think I'm not smart enough to know it leads directly into A New Hope? Derp. That's what the whole movie was about. It still had needless reference to the original trilogy. No matter how much you try to spin it, Rogue One is not a part of the original trilogy. It's certainly related, but it's separate at the same time. And yes, a lot of the references were just fan service nostalgia. For instance:
Spoiler
Showing us Ponda Baba and the other outlaw minutes before the death star is used.
[close]
That reference served no other purpose other than to wink at the audience. Quite frankly, I'm starting to wonder if you even saw the film yourself.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F68.media.tumblr.com%2F7d361caa374fff41e452fc4bf0cf57b4%2Ftumblr_oiss3v4p5D1u8a9qvo3_500.gif&hash=5c20189a64dca34eb95f13b70cc1d53389a10a43)

K2SO gave us the humor, you r referring to easter eggs that didn't change anything, ur whining for the sake of whining methinks..
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Post by: newagescamartist on Dec 28, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 10:44:52 PM
A thread for all your Star Wars bickering needs (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=163.msg2165063#new)

You're absolutely right. Sorry for the diversion. I'm here to talk about Alien.
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Post by: tylerland1010 on Dec 28, 2016, 11:50:46 PM
Everyone has probably seen if you skip to 1:32 - 1:35 mark and slow it right down you can see the new Neomorph but just before like is a seen which is David walking through the high grass. Do the same thing and look at the bottom right hand corner... Does that not look like a larger Neomorph/Xenomorph running beside him? I can't get a good enough picture because its too dark even if I screw around with the exposure... Any feed back?
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 28, 2016, 11:55:45 PM
Anyone get a good look at this pic?? It appears someone is standing in the doorway of drop ship!!

(https://i0.wp.com/media2.slashfilm.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ09A079D9.jpg)


Quote from: tylerland1010 on Dec 28, 2016, 11:50:46 PM
Everyone has probably seen if you skip to 1:32 - 1:35 mark and slow it right down you can see the new Neomorph but just before like is a seen which is David walking through the high grass. Do the same thing and look at the bottom right hand corner... Does that not look like a larger Neomorph/Xenomorph running beside him? I can't get a good enough picture because its too dark even if I screw around with the exposure... Any feed back?

Yes there does seem to be something moving around near his left side!!
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Post by: shawsbaby on Dec 29, 2016, 12:21:10 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 28, 2016, 11:55:45 PM
Anyone get a good look at this pic?? It appears someone is standing in the doorway of drop ship!!


Looks like a person is on fire?
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 12:25:45 AM
Quote from: juxtapose on Dec 28, 2016, 07:17:26 AM
. .she has her own personal religious beliefs. . The cross is a reminder of that and a connection to her father. . I doubt your typical christian is gonna embrace the idea of engineers and neither your typical atheist. . .she is very open minded about religion. .i saw her as a scientist who hung on the speritual ideas. . Christians claim to know exactly were we come from and who and what god is. . Thats not what i got from shaw. .she was looking for answers. . Their was no blind faith. .

We Christians believe that God is Love.  There is no further definition or description that goes beyond this.

Where do we come from?  Well we Christians believe that God created us.  Whether the seven days are metaphors, who knows?  In the beginning was the word.  That implies that in the beginning, we were information, which is largely in line with some of the current leading scientific theories.  The universe is information.
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Post by: anduu on Dec 29, 2016, 12:28:02 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 28, 2016, 11:55:45 PM
Anyone get a good look at this pic?? It appears someone is standing in the doorway of drop ship!!

(https://i0.wp.com/media2.slashfilm.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ09A079D9.jpg)


Quote from: tylerland1010 on Dec 28, 2016, 11:50:46 PM
Everyone has probably seen if you skip to 1:32 - 1:35 mark and slow it right down you can see the new Neomorph but just before like is a seen which is David walking through the high grass. Do the same thing and look at the bottom right hand corner... Does that not look like a larger Neomorph/Xenomorph running beside him? I can't get a good enough picture because its too dark even if I screw around with the exposure... Any feed back?

Yes there does seem to be something moving around near his left side!!

The grass on his left side isn't moving...on really close inspection it just appears to be the grass in the very near foreground shifting a bit.
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 03:04:15 AM
Quote from: Murph Morph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:38:25 PM
"The idea that a scientist can't also be a believer is incredibly narrow minded."

Depends on the level of belief, and whether your belief takes over and overshadows rational thinking, like joining a massive expedition to "find our makers" based on paintings(!) because she merely "chose to believe".

Comedy gold right there. That's some prime religious fanatic behaviour, hence my comment that Shaw is a religious and naive wacko.

It is also, again, poor writing like most critics perfectly pointed out, regardless of the other good qualities the film had like the cinematography, art direction etc.

A scientist CAN also be a believer.  Science is effectively a discipline which is based on a collection of the quantitative observations of our universe.  By it's very nature, this means a scientist can only collect these quantitative observations when they are alive.  There is not quantitative knowledge of the experience beyond death.  One can only hypothesize.  It would be a perfectly sound scientific hypothesis to suggest that we are living in a matrix-like reality and that death is really only akin to being unplugged from one program, and plugged into another.  We see precedent for this sort of thing in our own computers and especially video games.  But none of this can be proved, because nobody (except Jesus, Lazarus, etc. if you believe) has ever come back from beyond death's door.  So any speculation on what lies beyond death, can only be speculative and faith based, even for a scientist.


Quote from: Dan on Dec 29, 2016, 02:44:17 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYVQlvEdL6s
I dont know was it or not but there's a prometheus style version of the trailer and its something i missed from the last minute of the trailer wich was great anyway.Maybe in the next one.

By the way crazy how many comment are there.:) What's gonna happen when the movie comes out? I just checked the first posts on this site now and there's no comments on posts like Stan Winston not involved in Avp.(he's not asked to be back, what a shame) That movie could be much better with him just by the look of the creatures.

You are aware Stan Winston passed away a while ago right?
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Post by: OpenMaw on Dec 29, 2016, 03:20:24 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 03:04:15 AM
You are aware Stan Winston passed away a while ago right?

He was alive in 2004.
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 03:46:57 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 29, 2016, 03:20:24 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 03:04:15 AM
You are aware Stan Winston passed away a while ago right?

He was alive in 2004.

Wasn't sure if I read your previous post correctly mate.  All good.  Sigh.  He is missed... ;)
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Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 29, 2016, 04:48:15 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 28, 2016, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 07:12:41 PM
That's the thing with atheism, if there was 100% evidence of God, then they'd believe he exists. So why wouldn't they accept Engineers?

If you have a proof you don't have to believe anymore. You just accept the fact. Belief is not important if you got evidence.

That's true.
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Dec 29, 2016, 04:48:15 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 28, 2016, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 07:12:41 PM
That's the thing with atheism, if there was 100% evidence of God, then they'd believe he exists. So why wouldn't they accept Engineers?

If you have a proof you don't have to believe anymore. You just accept the fact. Belief is not important if you got evidence.

That's true.

We're on a tangent but...

Almost correct I would say, but perhaps not completely.

Belief in God is only "important" if there is a God and it matters to Him whether you believe in Him or not.

Belief most appropriately is described as a question of "inescapable necessity" when you are considering God or notions of the afterlife.  Since there is no possible way of telling what is beyond death, and no way of quantifying that information through a scientific process, belief is the only notion that can be applied here.  Whether you believe there is something more, or that there is not, it is still a belief.  The idea of belief is so "necessary" here, to the point that it is inescapable.  Even if you choose to be agnostic about the existence of God or the afterlife, that is still a belief.  There is no empirical evidence for that position or the other two.  There is no way to "definitively" know.

This is a fundamental limitation of science, along with an inability to identify, much less discern between notions of right and wrong.
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Post by: Bughunter S. Thomson on Dec 29, 2016, 06:00:30 AM


These guys aren't hardcore Alien fans, but this is an honest, layman critique of the new trailer. While I'm not as cinical as them, some of the points they make do show the gripes a lot of people have with the new trailer, and for a few of them, myself included.
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Post by: CainsSon on Dec 29, 2016, 06:45:42 AM
Ive said it before and I'll say it again: The easily entertained ruin everything.
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Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 29, 2016, 07:31:15 AM
I don't really have time to watch a half hour reaction to a movie's first and only trailer...

I'll stick by my opinion that the trailer was average to above average at best with some good parts but still just a trailer.

Look at Dredd (2012), the movie as far as I am concerned is great, and I know I'm not alone on that, and it just shits all over Stallone's Judge Dredd, but the movie had a terrible marketing campaign and didn't even break even at the box office.
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Post by: anduu on Dec 29, 2016, 07:34:02 AM
Quote from: CainsSon on Dec 29, 2016, 06:45:42 AM
Ive said it before and I'll say it again: The easily entertained ruin everything.

Amen
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2016, 08:11:46 AM
Merged with existing thread.
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 29, 2016, 08:34:51 AM
Quote from: Bughunter S. Thomson on Dec 29, 2016, 06:00:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l12JPHQrG5E

These guys aren't hardcore Alien fans, but this is an honest, layman critique of the new trailer. While I'm not as cinical as them, some of the points they make do show the gripes a lot of people have with the new trailer, and for a few of them, myself included.
Why give those dullards oxygen? Do people not even have the capacity to form their own opinions of a trailer now without the need to have it informed by some 'hipster' moron with the mental capacity of a spoon?
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Post by: SM on Dec 29, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
Word.
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Post by: Necronomicon II on Dec 29, 2016, 09:56:24 AM
haha
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Post by: Predatorium on Dec 29, 2016, 12:15:24 PM
I saw the trailer posted on facebook and people in the comments didn't understand it's a sequel to Prometheus and were complaining that they won't get Prometheus 2. I think this movie is trying to strike a middle ground between hardcore alien and prometheus and it's not gonna go down so well I fear.
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 29, 2016, 01:59:49 PM
people are stupid. . Theirs fassbender ....all over the show... are they blind?. .suppose once they show a flash or two of shaw, then people might get it. .
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Post by: Necronomicon II on Dec 29, 2016, 02:41:13 PM
They're akin to the peeps who thought Rogue One was a sequel to Force Awakens; where's Rey? where's Fin? I mean Christ, google is your friend, it takes mere seconds to inform yourself lol
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 29, 2016, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 28, 2016, 11:55:45 PM
Anyone get a good look at this pic?? It appears someone is standing in the doorway of drop ship!!

(https://i0.wp.com/media2.slashfilm.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ09A079D9.jpg)

I think that's Amy Seimetz's character after she shoots at the neomorph and hits something highly explosive inside the dropship instead.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2016, 04:13:53 PM
Comeon lads, let's chill out on the insulting.

Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 29, 2016, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 28, 2016, 11:55:45 PM
Anyone get a good look at this pic?? It appears someone is standing in the doorway of drop ship!!

(https://i0.wp.com/media2.slashfilm.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ09A079D9.jpg)

I think that's Amy Seimetz's character after she shoots at the neomorph and hits something highly explosive inside the dropship instead.

Yeah, I'm thinking the same as well.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 29, 2016, 04:14:30 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 29, 2016, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Dec 28, 2016, 11:55:45 PM
Anyone get a good look at this pic?? It appears someone is standing in the doorway of drop ship!!

(https://i0.wp.com/media2.slashfilm.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ09A079D9.jpg)

I think that's Amy Seimetz's character after she shoots at the neomorph and hits something highly explosive inside the dropship instead.

Poor girl!! Well guess it's better than your skin turning chalk, and getting back bursted!! :laugh:
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 06:53:20 PM
Maybe they should have called it Prometheus: Alien Rising or something like that?  It would feel wrong to accommodate stupid though..
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Post by: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2016, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 06:53:20 PM
Maybe they should have called it Prometheus: Alien Rising or something like that?  It would feel wrong to accommodate stupid though..
Alien  prequels are named after the doomed space ship. So the final movie will be called Alien: Derelict. twas a joke.

Although I'm still reeling over the rumored title "forces of destiny" for episode 8. In any case Alien: Prometheus works fine by me.
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2016, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 06:53:20 PM
Maybe they should have called it Prometheus: Alien Rising or something like that?  It would feel wrong to accommodate stupid though..
Alien  prequels are named after the doomed space ship. So the final movie will be called Alien: Derelict. twas a joke.

Although I'm still reeling over the rumored title "forces of destiny" for episode 8. In any case Alien: Prometheus works fine by me.

If Fox really sees that there is a lot of confusion on this subject going into the film, they should release an expanded cut of Prometheus, called Alien: Prometheus on Bluray prior to the release of covenant.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 29, 2016, 07:59:35 PM
oh theyll probably do that whole Alien: Prometheus route when all of the movies are done.
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Post by: juxtapose on Dec 29, 2016, 08:03:35 PM
. . Theirs no shaw in the trailor. .i guess thats what's connfusing them. . Mayne just start of the next trailor with a quick clip of her. .but her presense in a covenant trailer might spoil it for us the hardcore fans. .so be it. .they going to have to do something to lure in the prometheus crowd. . Or just a snippet of the engineers. .asuming they even make an apearance in covenant. . I loved the trailer but i would have loved it even more had they added some reference to the engineers. .
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Post by: Darth Vile on Dec 29, 2016, 08:23:07 PM
I think Prometheus fans will go and see Alien Covenant regardless (due to it being a sequel of sorts). The trailer will probably bring in those who expected a more Alien vibe to Prometheus.
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 29, 2016, 10:20:49 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2016, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 29, 2016, 06:53:20 PM
Maybe they should have called it Prometheus: Alien Rising or something like that?  It would feel wrong to accommodate stupid though..
Alien  prequels are named after the doomed space ship. So the final movie will be called Alien: Derelict. twas a joke.

You mean Alien: Nostromo ;).
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Post by: Robot6 on Dec 30, 2016, 01:45:06 AM
Loving this trailer! Over and over again!  ;D
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Post by: DB on Dec 30, 2016, 06:15:11 PM
I wasn't too excited by the trailer. Maybe it's the scenes they decided to show but I'm getting way too many "Alien remake with some Aliens thrown in" vibes from the trailer.

Hopefully it's just the trailer, and David's goals will make things more interesting and unique.
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 30, 2016, 06:28:18 PM
Yeah. David is by far the most unique and complex character the Alien series has been endowed with to date. I want more, many more, scene stealing moments from him. I want The Fassbender Show.

It's bad enough that it sounds like
Spoiler
we might not be getting that much Engineer action
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. And the dialogue we've read about and heard so far isn't too promising. "How about we don't know what the f**k's out there!" Yikes, I know these are just colonists but maybe don't make the characters colonists in the first place.

Sounds like my favorite sequence might be David's dream with Weyland.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Dec 30, 2016, 06:30:36 PM
i have a really great feeling that Covenant will be just as deep as Prometheus was... but will add all of the "Alien" film elements back in that so many people were craving from Prometheus. Personally I dug how they dropped a lot of the traditional "Alien" elements out of Prometheus, but still kept its DNA in there.

May seems like an eternity away even though its been almost 5 years since Prometheus and the promise of sequels lol!
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Post by: Federick Gonsa on Dec 30, 2016, 07:14:53 PM
The trailer feels more like Prometheus than Alien. But perhaps that is because they don't want to spoil the monster action.
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Post by: John Doe on Dec 30, 2016, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: Federick Gonsa on Dec 30, 2016, 07:14:53 PM
The trailer feels more like Prometheus than Alien. But perhaps that is because they don't want to spoil the monster action.

Yep, i think the same, they hide the Aliens.
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Post by: Albert78 on Dec 31, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
What do you think, guys, about smoking in that planet?

marine/soldier  is smoking Just before spores attack him....
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 31, 2016, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: Albert78 on Dec 31, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
What do you think, guys, about smoking in that planet?

marine/soldier  is smoking Just before spores attack him....

Spores infected him because he stepped on it.
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Dec 31, 2016, 05:24:32 PM
By the way, was that a bearded Alexander England next to Demian Bichir in the trailer?
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Post by: Ingwar on Dec 31, 2016, 05:29:07 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 31, 2016, 05:24:32 PM
By the way, was that a bearded Alexander England next to Demian Bichir in the trailer?

Likely.
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Post by: Astronoë on Jan 02, 2017, 07:50:48 PM
Maybe has been posted on forum already (probably)


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Post by: Scorpio on Jan 02, 2017, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 02, 2017, 07:50:48 PM
Maybe has been posted on forum already (probably)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_W_3Zakyd8

I like how she's standing on her toes.  It's a perfect scene, I don't know why people complain. 
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 05, 2017, 11:28:30 AM
Clearly you can see someone burned alive and dropping to ground!!

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YQ3DAXxFajs/WGKochJqArI/AAAAAAADjaU/yswk7DO-gksJ2akvIVpAPoNcDtxopMtpQCLcB/s400/giphy.gif)


ALIEN:COVENANT Red Band Trailer 4K + New FOOTAGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69sqMshHgk8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69sqMshHgk8)
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 05, 2017, 11:55:00 AM
It's just the trailer with the production stills on the end.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 05, 2017, 11:58:28 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 05, 2017, 11:55:00 AM
It's just the trailer with the production stills on the end.

yeah, i know. But i figured it was 4k quality. you can delete if you want.
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Post by: g2vd on Jan 05, 2017, 02:44:40 PM
Omega ruined the trailer for me that butthead critiqued it to death and I don't like it now. :laugh:
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Post by: Prez on Jan 06, 2017, 10:09:01 AM
It's interesting that after listening to the Podcast I immediately sought out to watch that fan made recut trailer (with the Prometheus soundtrack and cues) and straight away the entire tone and feeling for the film was changed.

Lesson being don't judge a film necessarily by it's trailer. Either way I can't wait for May.
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Post by: OpenMaw on Jan 06, 2017, 11:00:58 AM
Well, it's certainly a reminder that editing is incredibly powerful.
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Post by: KillCrites on Jan 06, 2017, 05:56:03 PM
I've seen a re-cut of the trailer in the style of Alien Resurrection and it made the whole film seem like an action movie, not horror. It was pretty sweet.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 06, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: KillCrites on Jan 06, 2017, 05:56:03 PM
I've seen a re-cut of the trailer in the style of Alien Resurrection and it made the whole film seem like an action movie, not horror. It was pretty sweet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-naelA60Q

Nice!!
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 06, 2017, 06:55:43 PM

A:R had one of the best trailers ever. To bad it turned out to be such a shitty film.
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Post by: OpenMaw on Jan 06, 2017, 08:53:17 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 06, 2017, 06:55:43 PM

A:R had one of the best trailers ever. To bad it turned out to be such a shitty film.

The incredible power of editing.  :)
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 07, 2017, 12:13:57 AM

The power of music too. That music really gets me into an Alien mood.
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Post by: StrangeShape on Jan 07, 2017, 04:32:19 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Jan 02, 2017, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 02, 2017, 07:50:48 PM
Maybe has been posted on forum already (probably)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_W_3Zakyd8

I like how she's standing on her toes.  It's a perfect scene, I don't know why people complain.

For me it screams "slasher" and "generic horror". I know its Ridley so we shouldnt be that worried (although the general consensus on Scott seems to be that if hes good, hes really good, if hes bad, hes terrible), but still, in Scot's alien movie? two pinup characters going at it under the shower, then the monster kills them, plus the typical modern startling moment...sorry guys, it just leaves a bad slasher taste in my mouth, thats all. Just my personal opinion
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Post by: juxtapose on Jan 07, 2017, 11:59:47 AM
at the very least it will be interesting  to see how ridley handles the horror aspects of the film. .how he sets the atmosphere,  and how much he makes you care for the characters. .  I for one says . . BRING IT ON!!!!
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Post by: KillCrites on Jan 07, 2017, 05:58:16 PM
Does it bug anyone else that he says, "How do you mean?" instead of, "What do you mean?".  :P
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Post by: OpenMaw on Jan 07, 2017, 06:04:14 PM
Quote from: KillCrites on Jan 07, 2017, 05:58:16 PM
Does it bug anyone else that he says, "How do you mean?" instead of, "What do you mean?".  :P

Nope. I know several people who say it that way.
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Post by: D88M on Jan 08, 2017, 11:58:30 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 05, 2017, 11:28:30 AM
Clearly you can see someone burned alive and dropping to ground!!

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YQ3DAXxFajs/WGKochJqArI/AAAAAAADjaU/yswk7DO-gksJ2akvIVpAPoNcDtxopMtpQCLcB/s400/giphy.gif



i was wondering, this woman shooting the Neomorph, she dies in the fire right after that, because of the explosion right? i dont know who she is but it doesnt have the same face as the protagonist, seems like the Lambert of this movie maybe?
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 09, 2017, 10:38:22 AM
Quote from: KillCrites on Jan 07, 2017, 05:58:16 PMDoes it bug anyone else that he says, "How do you mean?" instead of, "What do you mean?".  :P

Depending on the context, either is fine.
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Post by: LiquidSentry on Jan 09, 2017, 10:45:40 PM
Quote from: KillCrites on Jan 07, 2017, 05:58:16 PM
Does it bug anyone else that he says, "How do you mean?" instead of, "What do you mean?".  :P

Something I'd imagine a Brit saying, is one of the writers British maybe?
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Post by: Ingwar on Jan 09, 2017, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: LiquidSentry on Jan 09, 2017, 10:45:40 PM
Quote from: KillCrites on Jan 07, 2017, 05:58:16 PM
Does it bug anyone else that he says, "How do you mean?" instead of, "What do you mean?".  :P

Something I'd imagine a Brit saying, is one of the writers British maybe?

Jack Paglen, Michael Green and John Logan are Americans.
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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jan 09, 2017, 11:20:19 PM
Language is a big part of character. As long as they're not saying 'expecially' or 'supposably' or 'would of', I'm good.  :P
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Post by: SM on Jan 09, 2017, 11:36:51 PM
 :D
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Post by: DorkiDori on Jan 10, 2017, 12:50:06 AM
i wonder when well see the green band trailer...
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 10, 2017, 12:53:35 AM
Quote from: DorkiDori on Jan 10, 2017, 12:50:06 AM
i wonder when well see the green band trailer...

I'd say they'll release that when Logan is released in March.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Jan 10, 2017, 01:01:03 AM
oh i doubt 20th Century Fox is going to wait THAT long to start promoting the movie! My guess is late Jan, early Feb. the trailer needs to be attached to multiple films in the interim to launch date for proper marketing.
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Post by: SM on Jan 10, 2017, 01:06:13 AM
They started promoting it last month.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Jan 10, 2017, 01:19:56 AM
red band trailers only have a limited reach due to age restrictions and movie ratings in theaters. its RARE that i ever see a red band trailer in the actual theater. green band trailers are universally marketed without worry of the wrong audience of seeing it... so hence, my original point, trailer needs to be attached to actual films ASAP. not everyone lives on the web like a lot of us seem to. most older folks arent going to spend a ton of time on the interwebs hunting down trailers. theyll catch the preview when its attached to a movie and go "oh, look at that... a new Alien film. i had no idea they were making one!"
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Post by: SM on Jan 10, 2017, 01:31:50 AM
Nearly 14 million views in 2 weeks isn't bad for something that's not being promoted yet.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 10, 2017, 01:37:28 AM

I think Hicks said they'll start doing online promoting to just like with Prometheus. I think that starts within the next month or so.
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Post by: OpenMaw on Jan 10, 2017, 04:57:59 AM
Quote from: D88M on Jan 08, 2017, 11:58:30 PM
i was wondering, this woman shooting the Neomorph, she dies in the fire right after that, because of the explosion right? i dont know who she is but it doesnt have the same face as the protagonist, seems like the Lambert of this movie maybe?

Spoiler

Everybody we see in the first scenee of the trailer is dead. The lady that locks the other lady in the room with back-burstee is the same one doing the shooting in that later scene.
[close]
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Post by: D88M on Jan 10, 2017, 08:28:21 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jan 10, 2017, 04:57:59 AM
Quote from: D88M on Jan 08, 2017, 11:58:30 PM
i was wondering, this woman shooting the Neomorph, she dies in the fire right after that, because of the explosion right? i dont know who she is but it doesnt have the same face as the protagonist, seems like the Lambert of this movie maybe?

Spoiler

Everybody we see in the first scenee of the trailer is dead. The lady that locks the other lady in the room with back-burstee is the same one doing the shooting in that later scene.
[close]

yes i know it is the same lady, that is why i am asking if she seems to be dead because of shooting the Neomorph and exploding the ship from inside? i am not aaking for spoilers lol, tought it seems that those 3 people will die, the backbuster guy for sure
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Post by: OpenMaw on Jan 10, 2017, 08:36:11 AM
Yes. She shoots at the neomorph, misses, and hits something that causes an explosion.
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Post by: DorkiDori on Jan 10, 2017, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: D88M on Jan 10, 2017, 08:28:21 AM...3 people will die, the backbuster guy for sure

nah, pretty sure he lives... they just patch him up with a little duct tape and a few popsicle sticks then send him on his way ;)
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Post by: Master on Jan 10, 2017, 05:55:34 PM
I wonder, is neomorph just escape through ones back, or is he literally  composed of victim's spinal column. From medical and pure horror point of view I'd prefere the second.
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Post by: juxtapose on Jan 10, 2017, 06:14:26 PM
. .it's a cool idea, but i think the guys spinal cord is obstucting the neo's exit so he simply rips it out ipon exit. . Sorry daddy!. . And remember their is throat bursters as well and i heard someone say one neo escape's from the chest. .but that's not confirmed. .
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Post by: Master on Jan 10, 2017, 06:29:49 PM
Spinal column is the hardest part of human body, generally the worst way for Alien to escape. It doesn't sit well with me as MD.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 10, 2017, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 10, 2017, 05:55:34 PM
I wonder, is neomorph just escape through ones back, or is he literally  composed of victim's spinal column. From medical and pure horror point of view I'd prefere the second.

With how much inspiration Scott and Logan seem to have taken from Gibson, I think we'll be seeing a revisit of Gibson's notion of the Alien DNA being able to assimilate other's DNAs, with it being deliberately designed to be so versatile.
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Post by: Master on Jan 10, 2017, 06:58:13 PM
Yeah, the resemblance with 'alien spores' from Gibons script is striking.
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 10, 2017, 07:30:26 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 10, 2017, 06:29:49 PM
Spinal column is the hardest part of human body, generally the worst way for Alien to escape. It doesn't sit well with me as MD.

I think that guy is totally spineless.

I mean I think the neomorph incorporates the guy's spine into itself.  You can see that his spinal assembly is literally trying to break free from his body.  But we'll see.
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Post by: Master on Jan 10, 2017, 07:38:21 PM
I'd love it to be that way. Very in style of David Cronenberg.
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Post by: juxtapose on Jan 10, 2017, 07:48:22 PM
i guess you guys have not read the feedbacks . .  those media people who saw the whole scene. . .the way they discribed it. . Go google. .i wont spoil it for you. .
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Post by: Master on Jan 10, 2017, 07:53:40 PM
Use spoiler tag.
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Post by: OpenMaw on Jan 12, 2017, 12:52:16 AM
As they described it

Spoiler

His entire spine comes out of his back with the alien "attached" to it, or part of it.
[close]

It does make some sense. Lot's of raw material for a lifeform to make use of.
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Post by: Inverse Effect on Jan 12, 2017, 04:05:46 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 25, 2016, 05:21:19 AM
Quote from: Guts on Dec 25, 2016, 05:19:54 AM
Dat Ending part xD

Not a threesome you want to be a part of. :laugh:

The Alien wanted to get in on the action it seems.
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Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 13, 2017, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jan 12, 2017, 12:52:16 AM
As they described it

Spoiler

His entire spine comes out of his back with the alien "attached" to it, or part of it.
[close]

It does make some sense. Lot's of raw material for a lifeform to make use of.
His spine...
Spoiler
is probably already a part of the alien when it bursts out. Actually from the short trailer spot it almost looks like if the two spikes are prying his back apart from the inside.
[close]
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Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 13, 2017, 11:11:54 AM
If you were to look at the human spine and ribcage from the back, on their own, the assembly would be rather reminiscent of... a facehugger.  Just a thought..
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 16, 2017, 09:27:47 PM

Is is just me or does it seem like the Neo-morph dies in the trailer when the drop ship explodes? I sure hope there are others because it hasn't even molted into its full size yet. 
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Post by: Ingwar on Jan 16, 2017, 11:00:07 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 16, 2017, 09:27:47 PM

Is is just me or does it seem like the Neo-morph dies in the trailer when the drop ship explodes? I sure hope there are others because it hasn't even molted into its full size yet.

Spoiler
There is more than one Neomorph because more than one Covenant member will be infected.
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Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jan 16, 2017, 11:03:09 PM
Thanks again for using the spoiler tags, people.  :)
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 16, 2017, 11:19:19 PM

I wish I could look at it, but yeah thanks for using them.  :)
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Post by: Ingwar on Jan 16, 2017, 11:37:14 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 16, 2017, 11:19:19 PM

I wish I could look at it, but yeah thanks for using them.  :)

Feel free to look at them ;)
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2017, 12:32:52 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 16, 2017, 11:37:14 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 16, 2017, 11:19:19 PM

I wish I could look at it, but yeah thanks for using them.  :)

Feel free to look at them ;)

Spoiler
Oh yeah. I think there's going to be a McBride Neo-morph as well.
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Post by: skhellter on Jan 17, 2017, 05:17:54 AM
Spoiler
There's already a lot of native Neomorphs spawned by the Engineer population of the planet. We're talking "ALIENS" type situation here... but with an Engineer Citadel instead of a Human Colony.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 17, 2017, 04:30:07 PM
German trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxaHoRQb4Wo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxaHoRQb4Wo)
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 17, 2017, 07:44:13 PM
No new footage, unfortunately.

The trailer is in cinemas now. We've had reports of it in front of Sleepless and Patriots Day.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 17, 2017, 08:41:50 PM
Was kinda surprised they didn't put something with Passengers, to be honest.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Jan 17, 2017, 09:56:16 PM
Well, Passengers was PG-13 while the other two were R-Rated. So they couldn't really use the red-band trailer.

There is however an existing greenband trailer (which has already been rated in two countries) that they could have used instead.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 17, 2017, 10:01:01 PM
Well yeah, I figured there must be a toned-down version for general audiences.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2017, 10:50:23 PM
They probably cut out the bloody parts and some of the decon shower scene. The blood will also be made to look darker like they do in most trailers that show it.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 17, 2017, 10:56:08 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 17, 2017, 07:44:13 PM
No new footage, unfortunately.

The trailer is in cinemas now. We've had reports of it in front of Sleepless and Patriots Day.

Which the red or green band??
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jan 17, 2017, 11:22:30 PM
The red band Himmel. The red band.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Nyarlathotep on Jan 17, 2017, 11:57:18 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 16, 2017, 09:27:47 PM

Is is just me or does it seem like the Neo-morph dies in the trailer when the drop ship explodes? I sure hope there are others because it hasn't even molted into its full size yet.
No, it almost certainly was killed in the explosion along with Seimetz's character.
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Post by: Stolen on Jan 18, 2017, 06:37:55 AM
I'm sure the neomorph is not dead in the explosion. Because this (pic spoiler)
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.syfantasy.fr%2Fimages%2Fgalerie%2Fbigimage%2Fcovenant-3.jpg&hash=6a7cab6d435e6e2b2d52ed7439f741d69c1c339a)
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I see him decimate the survivors in the jungle, waiting for the emergency shuttle of the Covenant!
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Post by: Nyarlathotep on Jan 18, 2017, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: Stolen on Jan 18, 2017, 06:37:55 AM
I'm sure the neomorph is not dead in the explosion. Because this (pic spoiler)
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.syfantasy.fr%2Fimages%2Fgalerie%2Fbigimage%2Fcovenant-3.jpg&hash=6a7cab6d435e6e2b2d52ed7439f741d69c1c339a)
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I see him decimate the survivors in the jungle, waiting for the emergency shuttle of the Covenant!
Seriously? How could he have survived that explosion?
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
As I understand it, the creatures in those leaked set pictures

Spoiler
existed before the events of the movie and are not the Neomorphs birthed in the film.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 18, 2017, 11:07:51 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 17, 2017, 11:22:30 PM
The red band Himmel. The red band.

Easy there buddy, don't push. ;)
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jan 18, 2017, 02:53:46 PM
Push? Didn't you already respond "Ok" to me, Himmel?

You asked, I answered.
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Post by: banecat on Jan 18, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
As I understand it, the creatures in those leaked set pictures

Spoiler
existed before the events of the movie and are not the Neomorphs birthed in the film.
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are these leaked photos still online?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Nyarlathotep on Jan 18, 2017, 04:02:24 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 17, 2017, 07:44:13 PM
No new footage, unfortunately.

The trailer is in cinemas now. We've had reports of it in front of Sleepless and Patriots Day.
Unfortunately that wasn't the case at my local cinema.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 18, 2017, 04:03:36 PM
I thought they don't play red band trailers in cinemas??
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 18, 2017, 04:04:40 PM
Very rarely. I have seen one in the cinema in the UK, once.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Jan 18, 2017, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2017, 10:50:23 PM
They probably cut out the bloody parts and some of the decon shower scene. The blood will also be made to look darker like they do in most trailers that show it.

According to someone who has seen the greenband trailer it is completely different to the redband version. It's not just a case of the bloody or nude bits having been cut.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 18, 2017, 04:29:19 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 18, 2017, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2017, 10:50:23 PM
They probably cut out the bloody parts and some of the decon shower scene. The blood will also be made to look darker like they do in most trailers that show it.

According to someone who has seen the greenband trailer it is completely different to the redband version. It's not just a case of the bloody or nude bits having been cut.

Do tell?? :o
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Jan 18, 2017, 04:33:11 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 18, 2017, 04:29:19 PM
Do tell?? :o

Quote@_CorporalHicks Lots. Two very different trailers. Can't really talk details but you'll see soon enough, I'm sure.

https://twitter.com/Lauzirika/status/809296081523601409 (https://twitter.com/Lauzirika/status/809296081523601409)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 18, 2017, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 18, 2017, 04:33:11 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 18, 2017, 04:29:19 PM
Do tell?? :o

Quote@_CorporalHicks Lots. Two very different trailers. Can't really talk details but you'll see soon enough, I'm sure.

https://twitter.com/Lauzirika/status/809296081523601409 (https://twitter.com/Lauzirika/status/809296081523601409)
Yeah forgot about that twitter post. 8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jan 18, 2017, 04:58:52 PM
Hopefully the green band turns out to be an honest representation of the film. I pray.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Stolen on Jan 18, 2017, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
As I understand it, the creatures in those leaked set pictures

Spoiler
existed before the events of the movie and are not the Neomorphs birthed in the film.
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Maybe you're right but I doubt that the Neomorph will have such a small role. I think the photo shows all the phases of its evolution.
And his deformed face could be caused by the exploding.

It doesn't shock me that the neomorph has survived.
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Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 18, 2017, 05:15:55 PM
I'm guessing either the Neomorph dies, or gets out just in time to walk away from the explosion in slow motion. ;)
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Post by: 426Buddy on Jan 18, 2017, 05:21:45 PM
Quote from: Stolen on Jan 18, 2017, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
As I understand it, the creatures in those leaked set pictures

Spoiler
existed before the events of the movie and are not the Neomorphs birthed in the film.
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Maybe you're right but I doubt that the Neomorph will have such a small role. I think the photo shows all the phases of its evolution.
And his deformed face could be caused by the exploding.

It doesn't shock me that the neomorph has survived.

Spoiler
There is more than one neomorph in the film.
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Spoiler
The landing party is taking another infected person to the dropship when it explodes. After the explosion, the landing party is in shock as another neomorph pops out of their infected crewmember.

The explosion originates right next to the neomorph we see in the trailer, i'm more than sure its dead.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Stolen on Jan 18, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
QuoteThere is more than one neomorph in the film.

Opinion or spoiler?

It would be cool if there were several neomorph (and an Alien)! Many horror and action in sight!
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Post by: Nyarlathotep on Jan 18, 2017, 05:32:05 PM
Quote from: Stolen on Jan 18, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
QuoteThere is more than one neomorph in the film.

Opinion or spoiler?

It would be cool if there were several neomorph (and an Alien)! Many horror and action in sight!
It's a spoiler.
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Post by: Stolen on Jan 18, 2017, 05:35:03 PM
Shit. It's my fault 

You already know everything, it becomes difficult to debate innocently  ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Nyarlathotep on Jan 18, 2017, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: Stolen on Jan 18, 2017, 05:35:03 PM
Shit. It's my fault 

You already know everything, it becomes difficult to debate innocently  ;D
I wouldn't go that far, I've probably forgotten half of the spoilers at this point lol.
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 18, 2017, 06:42:45 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 18, 2017, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2017, 10:50:23 PM
They probably cut out the bloody parts and some of the decon shower scene. The blood will also be made to look darker like they do in most trailers that show it.

According to someone who has seen the greenband trailer it is completely different to the redband version. It's not just a case of the bloody or nude bits having been cut.

No, I'm referring how they would show the redband trailer in the theaters. The greenband will be totally different like you said.

I'm here at my local theater to see Aliens. I hope they show the redband with it.
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Post by: 426Buddy on Jan 18, 2017, 09:46:33 PM
Quote from: Stolen on Jan 18, 2017, 05:35:03 PM
Shit. It's my fault 

You already know everything, it becomes difficult to debate innocently  ;D

Woops sorry about that.

I've not read the 4chan leaks or anything, though I've heard a couple things. But I did read the spoiler-ish first impressions of the footage shown to journalists. I forgot that bit about the neomorph(s) was a spoiler lol.

Anyway post fixed.
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Post by: banecat on Jan 19, 2017, 02:10:04 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 18, 2017, 06:42:45 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 18, 2017, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2017, 10:50:23 PM
They probably cut out the bloody parts and some of the decon shower scene. The blood will also be made to look darker like they do in most trailers that show it.

According to someone who has seen the greenband trailer it is completely different to the redband version. It's not just a case of the bloody or nude bits having been cut.

No, I'm referring how they would show the redband trailer in the theaters. The greenband will be totally different like you said.

I'm here at my local theater to see Aliens. I hope they show the redband with it.

are you in georgia by any chance?  i know a certain cinema chain showed aliens on sunday, which is when i saw it, and now tonight. no covenant trailer with mine by the way
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Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 19, 2017, 02:19:53 AM

No, I live in NC. I went to a day showing and had the theater to myself. :)

Seeing Aliens on the big screen makes a huge difference. Did that movie get nominated for best sound? It was outstanding.

Yeah, I didn't have a Covenant trailer on mine either.
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Post by: banecat on Jan 19, 2017, 02:52:11 AM
i have now seen both alien and aliens on the big screen and it definitely makes a difference
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Post by: Prez on Jan 19, 2017, 04:35:41 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 19, 2017, 02:19:53 AM
Seeing Aliens on the big screen makes a huge difference. Did that movie get nominated for best sound? It was outstanding.

Still remember attending the premiere in my hometown here in Australia, back in 1986. The sound was so loud especially during the first dropship scene (had to cover my ears).

I really hope local cinemas maybe bring back Alien or Aliens back to the big screen for Alien Day or Covenant's release. Doubt it though.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 19, 2017, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: Prez on Jan 19, 2017, 04:35:41 AM
I really hope local cinemas maybe bring back Alien or Aliens back to the big screen for Alien Day or Covenant's release. Doubt it though.

A lot of places had double bills for AlienDay last year.
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Post by: juxtapose on Jan 19, 2017, 11:55:41 AM
. .when i was a kid i worked as an usher at my local cinema for about 2 years. .it was during this phase that aliens was released, so i watched it over and over on the big screen. .i never tired of it. .i also remember watching the fly and predator while working their. . .aww. .i miss thise days!


. .it's my birthday today. .i was secretly hoping  fox wouls at least release a new pic today. .they been awfully quiet. .hopefully the calm before a storm. .with more trailers and and viral marketing on the way. .exactly 4 months to go!
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 19, 2017, 01:58:56 PM
I don't expect to see the viral kick in until towards mid-end February.
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 19, 2017, 02:40:05 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 19, 2017, 01:58:56 PM
I don't expect to see the viral kick in until towards mid-end February.
Ugh!! :(
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Jan 19, 2017, 04:53:12 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 19, 2017, 01:58:56 PM
I don't expect to see the viral kick in until towards mid-end February.

I think that was around the same time that Prometheus' viral marketing campaign started back in 2012. Since Prometheus and Covenant's release dates are now almost exactly the same that would be a good bet.
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Post by: Astronoë on Jan 23, 2017, 01:46:39 AM
I didn't think of it before, but the 'spore' looks like a Shoggoth..?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg00.deviantart.net%2Ff3d9%2Fi%2F2004%2F236%2F5%2Fb%2Flovecraft_col___shoggoth.jpg&hash=78cf31f1c54ade9374635bac13560655e35ae8d3)
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Post by: Enoch on Jan 24, 2017, 07:02:49 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungi_from_Yuggoth
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Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 25, 2017, 06:10:09 PM
    https://mobile.twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/824300808363655169   (https://mobile.twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/824300808363655169)


Very cryptic could referring to
Spoiler
Shaw??
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Post by: Ingwar on Jan 25, 2017, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 25, 2017, 06:10:09 PM
    https://mobile.twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/824300808363655169   (https://mobile.twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/824300808363655169)


Very cryptic could referring to
Spoiler
Shaw??
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Spoiler
Her cross?
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2017, 08:28:21 AM
Still just looks like dogtags to me.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 26, 2017, 08:43:52 AM
either way, shaw doesn't have dogtags.
also i must say it looks a bit big to be dogtags.
potentially looks more like some sort of passcard.

ah well, couple months and it's on!

any news on the next trailer?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2017, 09:51:27 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 26, 2017, 08:43:52 AM
any news on the next trailer?

Nothing yet, I'm afraid.
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Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 26, 2017, 10:55:26 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2017, 08:28:21 AM
Still just looks like dogtags to me.
Remember how in Prometheus' trailer there was a bowl on the alter, later to be changed to a green rock for the movie? I wouldn't be surprised if that happened there too.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 26, 2017, 10:57:11 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2017, 08:28:21 AM
Still just looks like dogtags to me.

Yeah i think so too, but if Sagardoa is correct than what did the test audience say that made them go in and shoot scene like that???
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 26, 2017, 09:43:37 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 26, 2017, 08:43:52 AM
either way, shaw doesn't have dogtags.
also i must say it looks a bit big to be dogtags.

She didn't have dogtag and yes, it does look a bit big to be a dogtag. I think it might be
Spoiler
her cross.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: hfeldhaus on Jan 26, 2017, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 26, 2017, 09:43:37 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 26, 2017, 08:43:52 AM
either way, shaw doesn't have dogtags.
also i must say it looks a bit big to be dogtags.

She didn't have dogtag and yes, it does look a bit big to be a dogtag. I think it might be
Spoiler
her cross.
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Didn't she take Holloway's dogtag or am I making that up?
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Post by: Darth Vile on Jan 26, 2017, 09:58:25 PM
Surely it would be the crucifix that she wore around her neck if anything? That would have both a literal and figurative meaning...
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Post by: Ingwar on Jan 26, 2017, 10:04:03 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-083.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetruthseeker.co.uk%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F01%2Fprometheus12.jpg&hash=f0636116ddc06052a8a5383f794d342cb181cc94)

Hard to tell from those pictures but we'll find out in few months :).
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Post by: SM on Jan 26, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Jan 26, 2017, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 26, 2017, 09:43:37 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 26, 2017, 08:43:52 AM
either way, shaw doesn't have dogtags.
also i must say it looks a bit big to be dogtags.

She didn't have dogtag and yes, it does look a bit big to be a dogtag. I think it might be
Spoiler
her cross.
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Didn't she take Holloway's dogtag or am I making that up?

He didn't have dogtags either.  Not even Janek did.  Charlie's would've been incinerated even if he did have them.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 26, 2017, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Jan 26, 2017, 09:56:07 PM
Didn't she take Holloway's dogtag or am I making that up?

She took his ring if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 27, 2017, 09:55:36 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 26, 2017, 10:04:03 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Alien-Covenant-Teaser-Trailer-083.jpg)

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/prometheus12.jpg

Hard to tell from those pictures but we'll find out in few months :).

if it was intended to be shaw's, then we would have clearly seen her crucifix, not a card nobody knows of.
it would not make any sense either to have a card suddenly added to that crucifix.

i could ONLY theorize, that if it indeed is something of shaw, then it can only be that shaw added some card to her necklace,
which might contain information digitally stored or anything like that. perhaps a warning.

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 27, 2017, 10:38:23 AM
Could it not just be dog tags from one of the Covenant's security people? The ship seemingly has an entire squad of armed security men on board.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 27, 2017, 11:00:54 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 27, 2017, 10:38:23 AM
Could it not just be dog tags from one of the Covenant's security people? The ship seemingly has an entire squad of armed security men on board.

True but sagardoa said that this scene
Spoiler
wasn't in the screening he was at, and prob was added in reshoots...And her attire in the pic is not the same she has on in the pic with gun..
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. To me it looks like when they first go out and explore the juggernaut. Which means that no one would have died yet.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Infected on Jan 27, 2017, 11:05:19 AM
its a security/acces card, imo.
The question is, what is she reading on it, does it say Walter? Or Billy? Or Shaw?
Then should be asking herself why is Walters security pass on this, if he is with us the whole time?
Or who is Shaw? And does the David android knows something more that he isnt telling.

This scene or still is cleary an assumption fck up, everybody that sees this instantly yell: dogtags!
But when zoomed in it isnt a dogtag. Imo
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 28, 2017, 12:25:32 AM
The most logical explanation is that it is a futuristic dog tag. Then perhaps a protective sheet for which her cross is inside. Then there is digital magic where they remove the place holder in favor of a cross for the movie. At this point what I see is some type of information device that is meant to hang around a persons neck. Dog tags.

It could also be a microscopic slide with someones DNA actually...
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: rabidranger on Jan 28, 2017, 11:08:06 PM
Well, dog tags aside that is no doubt Shaw's cross.....without her attached to it. Someone ends up putting it in an evidence bag of some sort for safe keeping. The question is where's Shaw?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ultramorph on Jan 29, 2017, 03:12:47 AM
Didn't Shaw have dog-tags on in that behind the scenes transmission that was sent to the Engineers? I have to think it's related to Shaw. There's no reason to make a big deal out of it in the trailer if the tags belong to some random security officer.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: OpenMaw on Jan 29, 2017, 03:18:17 AM
I don't see the cross in the shot at all.


Furthermore isn't it entirely possible this is the wreckage of the dropship she's inside of?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 29, 2017, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jan 29, 2017, 03:18:17 AM
I don't see the cross in the shot at all.


Furthermore isn't it entirely possible this is the wreckage of the dropship she's inside of?

no, it's looking rather like a cave. just up the lighting/gamma in a photoshop editor. it looks most like it has the same structural environment that we see when one of the actors scream and we see a hallway that looks like a derelict corridor [but isnt actually, again, just up the gamma], just before switching to the shower scene.

it has wildgrowth branches too.

i'm in the middle of it being the derelict, or something else on the planet. we know there are structures on the planet due to the platform scene with the pillars. there might be some caves, too, who knows.

the dogtag - which probably isnt a dogtag at all - simply and factually does not belong to shaw. stop hanging on to something that was a big mistake to assume from the beginning.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 29, 2017, 12:15:45 PM
This dogtag might belongs to Covenant crew member. This scene is not taken in the Juggernaut.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: OpenMaw on Jan 29, 2017, 12:31:12 PM
I threw it out there before, but it's probably Captain facehugger's thingy.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: whiterabbit on Jan 29, 2017, 12:49:32 PM
It could have also been another bunch of juicy colonist that David delighted upon.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 29, 2017, 01:54:47 PM
I wonder - could it be the cave we've seen in the leaked stills and Billy Crudup's scene?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 29, 2017, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 29, 2017, 01:54:47 PM
I wonder - could it be the cave we've seen in the leaked stills and Billy Crudup's scene?

Possible.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 29, 2017, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 29, 2017, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 29, 2017, 01:54:47 PM
I wonder - could it be the cave we've seen in the leaked stills and Billy Crudup's scene?

Possible.

I think the trailer itself is purposely made to mislead us in few scenes. When I watched trailer for the first time I thought that those three shots take place in one location (crashed Juggernaut) but now I'm not so sure about the last one with Daniels.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fmedia%2Falien--covenant-trailer-screenshots-46118.jpg&hash=c62a4c97f6989750e746ff93f6d14ab541f03f54)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fmedia%2Falien--covenant-trailer-screenshots-51121.jpg&hash=9f9d12c2dfdc7d2c4cb7af53210bd414ee5cf7f2)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fmedia%2Falien--covenant-trailer-screenshots-619210.jpg&hash=b38ffa3af279f8fedb615aef1d4603e898fa29ad)

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Feb 04, 2017, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 04, 2017, 04:23:35 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 04, 2017, 04:08:56 PM
I think those stub-like "wings" also unfold the same way in both ships. Solar sails I presume.

Spoiler
the ship does have solar sails so that'd make sense.
[close]

According to Sagardoa:

Spoiler
It's a colony ship, powered by solar sails as a matter of fact!
[close]




Today Sir Ridley Scott will receive DGA Lifetime Achievement Award. Hope he's gonna be asked about Covenant.

http://www.dga.org/News/PressReleases/2016/161129-DGA-Lifetime-Achievement-Award-in-Motion-Picture-Direction.aspx
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: me on Feb 04, 2017, 08:11:11 PM
Some of my thoughts on the trailer.

1. Certainly interesting how teaser trailers are now becoming as long as feature length trailers.

2.  While I understand that the song was supposed to be related to David, the trailer wasn't concentrated on David.  Wonder what would have happened if the trailer was shorter, less dialogue,and had Mr. Bowie's  Space Oddity song.

3.  Was a bit underwhelmed, IMO.  Movie looks gorgeous and I am sure it is going to knock it out of the park.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: KillCrites on Feb 05, 2017, 04:10:29 PM
I'm really hoping we'll get a TV Spot today.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 05, 2017, 06:08:31 PM
So I believe it's the Super Bowl in a few hours. We don't know if they'll be showing a Covenant trailer or not - I think it's going to be Logan but I'd love a Covie trailer.

Also I split off and merged the DGA stuff with an existing thread: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=55718.0

And split off the ship comparisons to a new thread.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Nyarlathotep on Feb 05, 2017, 09:08:16 PM
I don't think that we'll be getting another Covenant trailer today ether, but I guess that we well just have to wait and see to be sure.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 06, 2017, 12:14:32 AM
Dammit!!! It was Logan spot. >:(
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 06, 2017, 08:45:12 AM
Not unexpected. But we have the event today to look forward to. I'm not sure what time it'll be but it's just turning midnight for LA so hopefully we'll have something in the next 24 hours.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 07, 2017, 09:07:56 AM
From IMDB -

QuoteThere was supposed to be a Superbowl trailer, but...

...according to a guy who works at a company making these trailers, it was pulled at the last minute. On the Something Awful movie forums, he posted that another non-Fox Superbowl trailer (meaning not Logan or A Cure For Wellness, which they also did) is already using the same music they were planning to use for the Superbowl spot.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2316204/board/flat/265836135

I'm trying to find the actual post on Something Awful.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Evanus on Feb 07, 2017, 09:52:54 AM
Interesting. I hope they release it soon.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 11:07:35 AM
Now why would they do that?? It's time to fire that marketing dude. :laugh:
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Feb 07, 2017, 11:25:20 AM
The same music? Maybe Johnny Cash's Ain't No Grave from Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 07, 2017, 03:39:57 PM
Well they used Johnny Cash - Hurt song in the first Logan trailer...
They should have used that one instead for Covenant...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndEQMmmo1pk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndEQMmmo1pk)


or perhaps this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzTCbaZj5HA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzTCbaZj5HA)


or this one, quiet and calm but still ominous and dark... They should make
some calm trailer for a change. It could be very effective.

https://youtu.be/xCVgsI5h9p0 (https://youtu.be/xCVgsI5h9p0)

They told us our gods would outlive us
They told us our dreams would outlive us
They told us our gods would outlive us
But they lied
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Feb 07, 2017, 04:03:01 PM
Album and song Push the Sky Away by Nick Cave is epic.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 07, 2017, 04:15:47 PM
In my modest opinion it is.
I m an avid classical and ambient music listener,
but regardless, I think I can recognize a music of significant value no matter
the genre. :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 04:25:39 PM
So the trailer was pulled cause of a song??
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Feb 07, 2017, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 04:25:39 PM
So the trailer was pulled cause of a song??

According to imdb source.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 07, 2017, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 04:25:39 PM
So the trailer was pulled cause of a song??

According to imdb source.

Well what's taking them so long to put in a new one??
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Feb 07, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 07, 2017, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 04:25:39 PM
So the trailer was pulled cause of a song??

According to imdb source.

Well what's taking them so long to put in a new one??

Hard to say. I don't understand why Fox is waiting either. Time flies.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 05:12:48 PM
A certain person knows, but he wont divulge anymore news to us, and we have to wait till who knows when. :(
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: DorkiDori on Feb 07, 2017, 05:35:13 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 04:39:23 PM
Well what's taking them so long to put in a new one??

licensing...
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: cliffhanger on Feb 07, 2017, 05:57:32 PM


that would be a rather interesting theme for an Alien trailer.
Not sure if i'm bummed down that if it was this one, that it now isn't. As interesting as I think it would be,
i think it would be a wrong approach for the movie to add this sound to a trailer.

however, if it would be a cover like this one - despite it not being as good as Johnny Cash, i really dig the vibe.



Ain't No Grave by Johnny Cash cover by Ben Moody

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Feb 07, 2017, 06:21:50 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 07, 2017, 04:03:01 PM
Album and song Push the Sky Away by Nick Cave is epic.

Agreed.  Boatman's call is my favorite.  Murder Ballads is pretty good too.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 07, 2017, 06:40:14 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Feb 07, 2017, 05:57:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0MIFHLIzZY

that would be a rather interesting theme for an Alien trailer.
Not sure if i'm bummed down that if it was this one, that it now isn't. As interesting as I think it would be,
i think it would be a wrong approach for the movie to add this sound to a trailer.

however, if it would be a cover like this one - despite it not being as good as Johnny Cash, i really dig the vibe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxwzs27YZok

Ain't No Grave by Johnny Cash cover by Ben Moody

No.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 08, 2017, 08:46:19 AM
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3483878&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=380#post469144986

Here's the actual thread from Something Awful.

QuoteHa canceled at the last minute when we got word our main cue was licensed by somebody else and used in a Super Bowl trailer for their movie.

You might think that is silly and we should have heard about that before Friday and I'd say you are right and this was intentionally withheld by design which is kind of apropos for gamesmanship. We were out-coached is what I'm trying to say.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: lv_226 on Feb 08, 2017, 08:37:26 PM
I still wish they would have used the entire Aurora song for the trailer and not remix it... maybe for the story-length trailer?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: salomonj on Feb 09, 2017, 06:42:23 AM
Quote from: lv_226 on Feb 08, 2017, 08:37:26 PM
I still wish they would have used the entire Aurora song for the trailer and not remix it... maybe for the story-length trailer?
when will we get a new trailer?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 06:44:12 AM
We don't know yet, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Prez on Feb 09, 2017, 11:34:11 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 06:44:12 AM
We don't know yet, I'm afraid.

Good Friday or Easter Sunday perhaps? Given we got the first one on Christmas Day ... perhaps they might use another significant religious holiday.

Mere speculation on my part by the way.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
Logan would also be a reasonable guess.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Sgt. Shanx on Feb 09, 2017, 05:35:11 PM
Looks great...super excited to see this...taking it back to the "Alien" franchises sci-fi/horror roots
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Nyarlathotep on Feb 10, 2017, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: Prez on Feb 09, 2017, 11:34:11 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 06:44:12 AM
We don't know yet, I'm afraid.

Good Friday or Easter Sunday perhaps? Given we got the first one on Christmas Day ... perhaps they might use another significant religious holiday.

Mere speculation on my part by the way.
Let's hope that they don'the make us wait that damn long.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Brzrkr on Feb 10, 2017, 03:16:14 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
Logan would also be a reasonable guess.

I agree with the Corporal.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 10, 2017, 01:21:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytxn0WSmPqI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytxn0WSmPqI)




(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdarumaview.it%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2FALIEN-COVENANT-teaser-poster-italia-.jpeg&hash=5b1c1abfefe08d86165120130cd665533046ba21)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Feb 10, 2017, 04:10:37 PM
I hate dubbing! Why they'are doing this? It's an insult. People cannot read or what? Luckily I live in UK.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 10, 2017, 04:15:17 PM
Dubs are rarely good... almost never...
Never understood why they dub movies, complete idiocy.

But I enjoyed this one a lot... :laugh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BC9daxWrL8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BC9daxWrL8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Feb 10, 2017, 04:22:51 PM
Dubbing is a big NO NO! What's the point of going to the cinema if you cannot hear real actor's voice? It should be prohibited, except movies for kids because it's understandable. But dubbing for adults? I'll never get that. It's like eating delicious meal through the paper. It's beyond stupidity. I really feel sorry for people who has to experience that.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 10, 2017, 06:57:56 PM
It depends on the movie. Italian horror films just feel wrong without dubbing to me.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Nyarlathotep on Feb 10, 2017, 08:38:19 PM
Quote from: Enoch on Feb 10, 2017, 04:15:17 PM
Dubs are rarely good... almost never...
Never understood why they dub movies, complete idiocy.

But I enjoyed this one a lot... :laugh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BC9daxWrL8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BC9daxWrL8)
Not bad for dubbing. :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Master on Feb 11, 2017, 01:22:51 PM
In my country dubbing is not a problem. You have subtitles and even if the film is dubbed, you always have version with subs to choose.


Edit

I especially love american dubbing for anime ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 11, 2017, 04:46:24 PM
The only time dubbing has ever been good was in Kung Pow: Enter the Fist :P
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 11, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Davewellwisher/status/827044919516622848       (https://mobile.twitter.com/Davewellwisher/status/827044919516622848)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Scree on Feb 14, 2017, 08:33:37 PM
While I do appreciate every new entry in the Alien Saga, honestly this first trailer of Alien Covenant just bored me with how bland and unoriginal it looked. I should've been excited but I just felt almost nothing. It was rather cringy. I hope Ridley Scott will prove me wrong and surprise me with classic Alien goodness but I'm lowering my expectations. Especially that shower scene with the Alien tail between the chick's legs looked really embarrassing and cheap. Did Ridley Scott learn to do that that from George Lucas' Poetry & Rhyme class?  :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Space_Dementia on Feb 15, 2017, 03:39:10 PM
Finally got around to recording my views/thoughts on the first trailer that dropped on Christmas Day, I do like it... But I have my worries...

https://youtu.be/LlJiVD_GHac (https://youtu.be/LlJiVD_GHac)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 04:18:14 PM
Small contribution from me

-LANDING CREW-

(https://i.imgur.com/OJMywER.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/J3zFsxC.jpg)


+ Benjamin Rigby, cigarette smoking man :D

9 CREW MEMBERS AT TOTAL.


What do you guys think, what kind of role will Goran D. Kleut have in the movie?. I personally think he ll play either some kind of creature or Engineer. I dont think his character is a part of the crew.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 16, 2017, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 04:18:14 PM
Small contribution from me

-LANDING CREW-

(https://i.imgur.com/OJMywER.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/J3zFsxC.jpg)


+ Benjamin Rigby, cigarette smoking man :D

9 CREW MEMBERS AT TOTAL.


What do you guys think, what kind of role will Goran D. Kleut have in the movie. I personally think he ll play either some kind of creature or Engineer. I dont think his character is a part of the crew.
Actually he may be an engineer during David's God Complex breakdown slaughter scene.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 04:33:30 PM
Yes. Considering his facial characteristic and height, he could play Engineer.


And yes... that dog tag belonged to someone from Covenant crew.
I m completely sure. Maybe it belonged to Demian Bichir's character!

(https://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/frame-001980.jpg)


One new thing...

Remember how someone who claimed to have seen the move (I think Sagardoa)
said that the person standing next to Daniels on photo below is Bichir's character...
When asked about the name he said he forgot it... as any other name for that matter.

Well let me tell you, that is not Bichir's character!!! And its obvious from the trailer! ;) :)


(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.birthmoviesdeath.com%2Fimages%2Fmade%2FAlien-Covenant-Still-3_1200_830_81_s.jpg&hash=0e7339b766ac830b3bc1a82d1916c91336842125)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Evanus on Feb 16, 2017, 05:18:05 PM
Kinda weird how Sagardoa doesn't seem to know certain things. Are we really 100% sure the leaks are real?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 05:18:50 PM
I will never be 100% sure until I see the movie.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 16, 2017, 05:21:30 PM
Hicks may know.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 05:25:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/h4bOgIo.jpg)
Click to zoom

HERE you go!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
What confuses you?
Sagardoa was wrong about this... Bichir is not on that photo with Daniels as those who allegedly
saw the movie claimed! That is suspicious.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 16, 2017, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
What confuses you?
Sagardoa was wrong about this... Bichir is not on that photo with Daniels as those who allegedly
saw the movie claimed! That is suspicious.

Nothing, that pic didn't show up right away. :)

I feel sullied, and soiled being fooled Sagardoa.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Evanus on Feb 16, 2017, 05:33:32 PM
I suppose the leaks are still true, but that is suspicious indeed.

Also, they're standing in front of the temple from the leaked pictures. But where are all the dead engineers?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Feb 16, 2017, 05:33:56 PM
Shit Enoch, the dude saw the movie once.

Once.

Cut him some slack.

Besides, he knew Walter's name long before it became public. He was also spot-on with regards to Franco's fate. And a lot of other much more important details.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 16, 2017, 05:36:24 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Feb 16, 2017, 05:33:32 PM
I suppose the leaks are still true, but that is suspicious indeed.

Also, they're standing in front of the temple from the leaked pictures. But where are all the dead engineers?

He said that
Spoiler
David drops black goo on them,
[close]
but then why would the ship have crashed??

I read somewhere that someone said the
Spoiler
David creates xeno to kill them
[close]
so a little confused.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 05:37:53 PM
Perhaps they never screened the whole thing... Maybe they just did partial screenings...? Is that possible?
Eight, you re right, but there are still some discrepancies regarding Sagardoa's statements which lead me to believe
that he never saw the whole movie/cut (no matter what version of it).
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Feb 16, 2017, 05:42:18 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Feb 16, 2017, 05:33:32 PM
Also, they're standing in front of the temple from the leaked pictures. But where are all the dead engineers?

It's been ten years dude...

Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 16, 2017, 05:36:24 PM
I read somewhere that someone said the
Spoiler
David creates xeno to kill them
[close]
so a little confused.

Third-hand information.

Quote from: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 05:37:53 PM
Perhaps they never screened the whole thing... Maybe they just did partial screenings...? Is that possible?
Eight, you re right, but there are still some discrepancies regarding Sagardoa's statements that lead me to believe
that he never saw the whole movie.

Little point in doing a partial test screening.
And Sagardoa already remembered more than I would have from a single screening. Also keep in mind that he apparently attended the first test screening. A few things may have changed since.

I would have been suspicious if he didn't miss-remember a few things.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 05:43:35 PM
 ;D Maybe you are right, and I m again paying too much attention to minor details .
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Denton Smalls on Feb 24, 2017, 04:05:51 PM
Do you guys have any idea what cloaked David is carrying? I thought it was a cylinder or a canister of something but the way his other hand is gripping part of it like a trigger I thought it might be a type of breach-loading weapons where you open it like a double-barrel, stick the shell in and close it. If you watch that part a few times he seems to snap it closed just as the scene changes.

Am I imagining things or do you see this too?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 24, 2017, 04:26:45 PM
100% a weapon... grenade launcher. :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Evanus on Feb 24, 2017, 04:44:32 PM
I wonder how he got it. And what it is for.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 24, 2017, 04:50:02 PM
Me too. :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 24, 2017, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Feb 24, 2017, 04:44:32 PM
I wonder how he got it. And what it is for.

Maybe there was another crew/ship that chanced upon there.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 24, 2017, 05:45:14 PM
Or maybe it's just off the Covenant. We already know they have a pretty heavily armed security detail.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Enoch on Feb 24, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Agree with you...
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 24, 2017, 06:59:48 PM
Betwixt both of you......
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Denton Smalls on Feb 24, 2017, 10:30:30 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 24, 2017, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Feb 24, 2017, 04:44:32 PM
I wonder how he got it. And what it is for.

Maybe there was another crew/ship that chanced upon there.

Dude that would be a great scenario if there was a previous ship...never even thought about it.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Evanus on Feb 24, 2017, 10:37:26 PM
That would make sense. It also explains how he was able to make those Neomorphs from the leaked pics.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Ingwar on Feb 24, 2017, 10:50:52 PM
I'm pretty sure it belongs to dead Covenant member.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: salomonj on Feb 24, 2017, 11:40:20 PM
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Feb 15, 2017, 03:39:10 PM
Finally got around to recording my views/thoughts on the first trailer that dropped on Christmas Day, I do like it... But I have my worries...

https://youtu.be/LlJiVD_GHac (https://youtu.be/LlJiVD_GHac)
Your accent is awesome


Quote from: Enoch on Feb 16, 2017, 04:33:30 PM
Yes. Considering his facial characteristic and height, he could play Engineer.


And yes... that dog tag belonged to someone from Covenant crew.
I m completely sure. Maybe it belonged to Demian Bichir's character!

(https://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/frame-001980.jpg)


One new thing...

Remember how someone who claimed to have seen the move (I think Sagardoa)
said that the person standing next to Daniels on photo below is Bichir's character...
When asked about the name he said he forgot it... as any other name for that matter.

Well let me tell you, that is not Bichir's character!!! And its obvious from the trailer! ;) :)


(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.birthmoviesdeath.com%2Fimages%2Fmade%2FAlien-Covenant-Still-3_1200_830_81_s.jpg&hash=0e7339b766ac830b3bc1a82d1916c91336842125)
Who is standing next to Waterson then?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:20:46 PM
So revisiting this, I have to ask. Who thinks the trailer is better than the movie?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Gash on May 22, 2017, 03:30:38 PM
No, I prefer the dialogue of an unfolding story.

It's an ok trailer if you want a stack of spoilers, or a nice reminder of the loud bits once you've seen it.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:20:46 PMSo revisiting this, I have to ask. Who thinks the trailer is better than the movie?

The only thing I preferred in the trailer was that awesome shot of the Alien leaping down the corridor on the Covenant. Can't believe they cut that.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Gash on May 22, 2017, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:20:46 PMSo revisiting this, I have to ask. Who thinks the trailer is better than the movie?

The only thing I preferred in the trailer was that awesome shot of the Alien leaping down the corridor on the Covenant. Can't believe they cut that.

Didn't like the red light or the hopping about too much. More shots in film like the entry into the terraforming bay would have been good in the film itself.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:55:16 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:20:46 PMSo revisiting this, I have to ask. Who thinks the trailer is better than the movie?

The only thing I preferred in the trailer was that awesome shot of the Alien leaping down the corridor on the Covenant. Can't believe they cut that.

They sort of included that when it was running around onboard the Covenant before being locked inside the terraforming bay.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: Gash on May 22, 2017, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:20:46 PMSo revisiting this, I have to ask. Who thinks the trailer is better than the movie?

The only thing I preferred in the trailer was that awesome shot of the Alien leaping down the corridor on the Covenant. Can't believe they cut that.

Didn't like the red light or the hopping about too much. More shots in film like the entry into the terraforming bay would have been good in the film itself.

Thats my favourite shot of an Alien in any film. Loved how it stood. It even made my eye brows raise.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Vermillion on May 22, 2017, 04:06:56 PM
Yeah. The standing Alien. Just brief enough.
That's the mystery shot.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2017, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:55:16 PMThey sort of included that when it was running around onboard the Covenant before being locked inside the terraforming bay.

Nothing like the trailer shot though.

Funny thing is, some of the people from Fox I spoke to after the press showing I went to on the 2nd were surprised when I told them it wasn't in, because it had been when they'd seen the film. Evidently it was cut quite late in the day.

Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 03:58:21 PMThats my favourite shot of an Alien in any film. Loved how it stood. It even made my eye brows raise.

That shot was about the only thing from that entire sequence that didn't disappoint.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 05:06:37 PM
It knocked me out of the whole sequence really, it was that good. The rest was generic but had some decent shots of the xeno.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: KiramidHead on May 22, 2017, 05:38:22 PM
Well, David's terrible dialogue isn't present, so the trailer is better IMO.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: CainsSon on May 22, 2017, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: Gash on May 22, 2017, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:20:46 PMSo revisiting this, I have to ask. Who thinks the trailer is better than the movie?

The only thing I preferred in the trailer was that awesome shot of the Alien leaping down the corridor on the Covenant. Can't believe they cut that.

Didn't like the red light or the hopping about too much. More shots in film like the entry into the terraforming bay would have been good in the film itself.

Thats my favourite shot of an Alien in any film. Loved how it stood. It even made my eye brows raise.

Wow. I surprised, I really disagree here. I think they shouldn't show the Alien so much. I LOVED the part of the Alien being trapped inside the Truck, when it's thrashing about. I hate that they showed the Alien walking through that door slowly because it seemed off guard. I also didn't like the Alien POV vision. They should have kept it clean and wide-angled, like in A3.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Jonesy1974 on May 22, 2017, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: Gash on May 22, 2017, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:20:46 PMSo revisiting this, I have to ask. Who thinks the trailer is better than the movie?

The only thing I preferred in the trailer was that awesome shot of the Alien leaping down the corridor on the Covenant. Can't believe they cut that.

Mine too. That shot encapsulates my childhood nightmares of Alien

Didn't like the red light or the hopping about too much. More shots in film like the entry into the terraforming bay would have been good in the film itself.

Thats my favourite shot of an Alien in any film. Loved how it stood. It even made my eye brows raise.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on May 22, 2017, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: Gash on May 22, 2017, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:20:46 PMSo revisiting this, I have to ask. Who thinks the trailer is better than the movie?

The only thing I preferred in the trailer was that awesome shot of the Alien leaping down the corridor on the Covenant. Can't believe they cut that.

Didn't like the red light or the hopping about too much. More shots in film like the entry into the terraforming bay would have been good in the film itself.

Thats my favourite shot of an Alien in any film. Loved how it stood. It even made my eye brows raise.

Wow. I surprised, I really disagree here. I think they shouldn't show the Alien so much. I LOVED the part of the Alien being trapped inside the Truck, when it's thrashing about. I hate that they showed the Alien walking through that door slowly because it seemed off guard. I also didn't like the Alien POV vision. They should have kept it clean and wide-angled, like in A3.

The shot of it walking through the terraforming bay door? It's amazing! The most Alien thing I've seen since the first film. It's the kind of creepy that I've wanted, it's a shame it's taken this long to get it and that it's a disappointing finale.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Jonesy1974 on May 22, 2017, 07:46:21 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on May 22, 2017, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: Gash on May 22, 2017, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 22, 2017, 03:20:46 PMSo revisiting this, I have to ask. Who thinks the trailer is better than the movie?

The only thing I preferred in the trailer was that awesome shot of the Alien leaping down the corridor on the Covenant. Can't believe they cut that.

Didn't like the red light or the hopping about too much. More shots in film like the entry into the terraforming bay would have been good in the film itself.

Thats my favourite shot of an Alien in any film. Loved how it stood. It even made my eye brows raise.

Wow. I surprised, I really disagree here. I think they shouldn't show the Alien so much. I LOVED the part of the Alien being trapped inside the Truck, when it's thrashing about. I hate that they showed the Alien walking through that door slowly because it seemed off guard. I also didn't like the Alien POV vision. They should have kept it clean and wide-angled, like in A3.

The shot of it walking through the terraforming bay door? It's amazing! The most Alien thing I've seen since the first film. It's the kind of creepy that I've wanted, it's a shame it's taken this long to get it and that it's a disappointing finale.

I agree. That shot encapsulated all my childhood nightmares of the Alien.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 23, 2017, 11:31:57 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 22, 2017, 07:41:59 PM
The shot of it walking through the terraforming bay door? It's amazing! The most Alien thing I've seen since the first film. It's the kind of creepy that I've wanted, it's a shame it's taken this long to get it and that it's a disappointing finale.

I absolutely loved that shot of it walking into the terraforming bay. Just the way it was stood upright, it looked so incredibly creepy. Such a shame it's so short a shot.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: BonesawT101 on May 23, 2017, 05:55:38 PM
Yea that shot is amazing. Very eerie.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: That Yellow Alien on May 23, 2017, 08:51:10 PM
All of the shots of the Alien are too short. If you are going to show off the Alien, do it with shots longer than a second please, thanks.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant Teaser Trailer Now Online!
Post by: DorkiDori on May 23, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on May 23, 2017, 08:51:10 PM
All of the shots of the Alien are too short. If you are going to show off the Alien, do it with shots longer than a second please, thanks.

standard cinematography shooting rules... 3 second rule and 7 second rule

damn near every and any scene ever shot on film follows these 2 rules. dont believe me? next time youre watching ANY movie, count the seconds off in your head between camera cuts. they will always fall within 3 seconds or close to 7 seconds.

the alien is USUALLY shown in the 3 second rule because cutting that quickly keeps you guessing. your brain cant get a 100% fix on what its seeing, it only sees glimpses of detail. this is done for a purpose... it helps keep the monster a mystery, even when you KNOW what it looks like, your brain still wants to see ALL of the details so it keeps you glued to the screen.