Alien Covenant Fan Reviews

Started by Darkness, May 09, 2017, 05:39:30 PM

What did you think of Alien Covenant?

Loved it. (5/5)
99 (21.6%)
Good, it was enjoyable. (4/5)
148 (32.3%)
It was okay. (3/5)
89 (19.4%)
Could have been better. (2/5)
60 (13.1%)
Didn't like it. (1/5)
32 (7%)
Hated it! (0/5)
30 (6.6%)

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juxtapose

juxtapose

#75
Loved your review windebieste. .so glad it was positive. .i always enjoy your coments cause they reflect pretty much how i feel. . So i can breath more easily now and am even more hyped than ever. .it.s like i am counting the hours till the 19th. .very well written and articulate review!

oduodu

oduodu

#76
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 11, 2017, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2017, 07:40:17 AMHe was the only character I had any issue with. Farris might have been pushing it.

Faris' actions seemed justified to me in that she was freaking the f*ck out. People are stupid when they panic.


Quote from: SiL on May 11, 2017, 08:57:09 AMMostly spoiler free review:

That was great. Really summed up my thoughts far better than I could.

Same here .

Stolen

Stolen

#77
Quote from: Xenoscream on May 11, 2017, 09:24:32 AM
I think you are giving Oram a bad rap, I thought he was a good character, not particularly likeable or capable, but he knows that and struggles with it. He admits when he's wrong and actually tries to do the right thing, yeah he had a bit of a dumb end but nothing, nowhere near as bad a Milburn in prometheus.

Yes very interesting character, very human.

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The only thing I find really disappointing about the characters is how they decide to go on the planet, too easy.
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It lacks moment of glory for certain characters, Lope for example. But the characters are endearing, Daniels, Tennesse, Karine, Faris, Oram ... Walter and David are the most interesting obviously.

Elmazalman

Elmazalman

#78
Very good movie, not what I expected at all. It was great to see a walking Alien again- however briefly, in the cargo hold.

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Seeing E. Shaw's gutted corpse was a shock. I wonder what her final moments were?
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The communication between David and the creature had some interesting dialogue about it being important to gain the creature's respect.
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chris_bert

chris_bert

#79
Mostly spoiler free review:

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I think the best one-word review of Covenant would be "breathless". It moves at a fairly ruthless pace, pulling the audience from one tragedy to the next in fast succession. For the first half of the film, this is fine — it allows us to experience the kind of disorientation that our characters and, and hurls us into the action just as much as them. For the second half, however, it seems to transition from brisk pacing to simply rushing.

There's a lot of nice things to say about Covenant. The atmosphere in the first act places us pretty firmly in the world of Alien. Space is equal parts romantic and ominous; pretty to look at while hiding deadly traps. Our crew are regular people who feel real. Nobody seems ham-fisted into acting one way or another for the sake of plot or convenience; everyone's coming from somewhere and everyone reacts like actual people would.

Tension amongst the crew of the eponymous Covenant start fast. Tragedy strikes the ship, killing several members in their cryo-tubes. One happens to be the captain, placing the second in command, Oram (Billy Crudup), in full command before he's completely ready. He wants to run the situation as by the book as possible; pack away the dead, run diagnostics, fix the ship, return to sleep. Everyone else wants to hold a funeral. They're both realistic responses.

After detecting a mysterious transmission, the crew decides to investigate the source — a seemingly inhabitable planet. Daniels (Waterstone) thinks this is risky, but everyone else agrees that not dying in their sleep sounds like a wonderful idea. A landing party sets down on the planet, and tragedy invariably follows.

The initial tragedies — the infection of some of the crew by alien spores, the birth of horrifying "neomorph" creatures, the destruction of their landing vessel — are tense, nail-biting stuff. There's a genuine sense of distress from all involved. The crew is made of couples; everyone that dies is someone's husband or wife. The characters respond to these losses with due emotional weight.

It feeds into a sense of dread that is only partially allayed when David (Fassbender) saves the crew — partially, because he then immediately walks them to a city of corpses. Engineer corpses. It's an interesting turn; outside, where it was idyllic paradise, was unsafe and deadly. Inside, surrounded by corpses, it's ostensibly safe. You could cut the unease with a knife.

And then, to put it frankly, the film shits itself.

Where whisking the audience through the first half put us equal with the characters, the speed with which the second half unfolds leaves us unable to process much information.

Scott said he wanted to scare us, but there's no time for fear here. One character almost immediately walks off on their own without an escort and meets a predictable fate. Wherein the first half each death felt like a tragedy, the second half has characters all but literally tripping over corpses without much concern.

Fassbender's David in Prometheus is creepy. He's Not Quite Right. He composes himself as an aloof butler who hates his lot in life and is absolutely plotting to murder you. There's clearly something sinister and amoral simmering beneath, but it's always there; beneath. Here, however, he's just a bad guy. Ranting, pontificating, and about as subtle as a wood nail to the throat. He's a Bond villain describing his grand scheme for humanity. Beyond the blue jumpsuit he feels utterly different to the David we knew.

And then, at last, there's the Alien.

Whether certain revelations will satisfy or enrage the audience is something everyone will need to work out for themselves, but there's perhaps something we can all agree on: you can almost feel the contempt with which Scott included them back into the story.

There's no reason for the Alien to be here other than the film's title. They achieve nothing. They are utterly unremarkable. They act and move almost identically to the Neomorphs, and indeed beyond looking different and having acid blood there's no appreciable difference. They could have kept the Neomorphs throughout the entire film and not a damned thing would change.

Which is, more than anything, perhaps the most disappointing thing about the film. The last act is the Cliffs Notes of the original Alien, sans any sense of fear, dread, foreboding, or even mild interest. We've seen this before, and the very climax we have seen three times before.

Where the first half of the film was new and interesting, the second half feels like Ridley Scott responding to criticism over the lack of Aliens in a mocking tone. It happens because he thinks that's what people wanted, not because it feels right or even resolves the story in a particularly satisfying way.

Is the film terrible? No. This franchise has certainly generated worse. But like its predecessor it's an undeniably flawed film; how much these flaws bother you will be up to you to decide, and may largely be proportional to how much of a fan you are of these movies.

6/10
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^Thank you for the review and including this information. It's what I was suspecting after reading some of the other reviews, so I'm so glad I got to read your review. I think you were very fair and genuine. I'll definitely not go see it in the theater but I'll purchase it on a used blu ray when it's released. Time for me to find another franchise to get interested in. As a long-time Alien fan, I'm grateful for Scott and further development of the franchise and films but I'm also a little disappointed that this is the direction he's choosing. Yes, I absolutely understand it's not about me or how I think things should be or that Scott should change everything so that I like what he's doing, etc., etc., etc. It's Scott's creation and it's the direction that he's chosen because he thinks it's more interesting, but I can't help but feel that with the direction Scott is heading with the franchise, it's kind of lost something, so I'm not interested in it anymore. Time for me to catch up on Syfy's Faceoff and Magicians anyway. SiL, thanks again for the excellent review. Now time for me to focus on other sci-fi franchises. Fare the well o mysterious SpaceJockey creature. We hardly got to know thee.

Uncanny Antman

Uncanny Antman

#80
My one word review of Covenant would be the same as Prometheus...frustrating.

Longer, there's a lot to like and I had very few problems with the movie until the last quarter.  (Maybe fifth?)  The ending is such a let down, and it also brings with it new disappointments for earlier in the film when you realize that no, you will not be getting better answers/excuses for stuff that happened before.  The ending is pure shlock, and devalues everything that came before it.  That's not to say there weren't poor bits earlier, there certainly are, but they all seem to come to a head in the last sequences.

I'm amazed to say this, but I think I preferred Prometheus.  That film, for all it's faults, at least felt like it had something to say.  This one felt sort of like deleted material left over from Prometheus, mixed with what they thought people wanted.  Ridley seems to have not learned anything from Prometheus, making many of the same old mistakes as that one, but adding a few new ones too.

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I was mentally praising the film regarding the David/Walter switcheroo, making sure we didn't see his lower chin until after the crisis was over, I really thought they did a great job with that...and then it turns out that no, it's a giant middle finger fake-out, his chin wound is just magically gone.  Feh.
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...And David's flashback looked kind of weird, with his really dark eyebrows.  ;)

6/10

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#81
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on May 11, 2017, 12:42:42 PM
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I was mentally praising the film regarding the David/Walter switcheroo, making sure we didn't see his lower chin until after the crisis was over, I really thought they did a great job with that...and then it turns out that no, it's a giant middle finger fake-out, his chin wound is just magically gone.  Feh.
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Aside from the obvious cutaway, it was that David wasn't healing that I thought the tell was. More about his facial scarring than his chin scarring.
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newbeing

newbeing

#82
Man that chestburster scene. Every time I think back to it I also think of this:
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As for the David/Walter switcharoo. I saw it coming from a million miles away. As soon as David cuts his hair you know they're setting it up. It made me feel like Walter was a pointless character, just made to facilitate a really obvious twist. Which is too bad since I thought the character play between Walter and David was kind of interesting (if not also sometimes awkward and silly).
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Uncanny Antman

Uncanny Antman

#83
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Aside from the obvious cutaway, it was that David wasn't healing that I thought the tell was. More about his facial scarring than his chin scarring.
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I don't mean to say that I was fooled of course, it was crystal clear from the haircut onwards that we'd get a switch at some point, or at least the tease of a switch.  What I mean is that his other wounds are treated, visibly still there...but the chin wound is magically completely gone.  Why not keep the wound and shoot around it until after the reveal?
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Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#84
Continuity gaff, I'd assume.

echobbase79

echobbase79

#85
Just like with Prometheus, do any of you think you'll enjoy it more with repeat viewings? I remember being frustrated too after watching that film, but overtime I've begun to enjoy it. I don't dismiss its flaws, but the movie seems more enjoyable. Maybe Covenant will be the same?

I see it next Thursday so I'm very anxious to see where the film works and doesn't.

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#86
HuDa enjoyed it more his second time around, I think. I'm definitely looking forward to giving it another go tomorrow.

SiL

SiL

#87
I liked Prometheus less the more I saw it. I actually liked that a lot more than this one the first time around.

Frankly I think the second half will only get worse with repeat viewings.

Uncanny Antman

Uncanny Antman

#88
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 11, 2017, 01:25:19 PM
Just like with Prometheus, do any of you think you'll enjoy it more with repeat viewings? I remember being frustrated too after watching that film, but overtime I've begun to enjoy it. I don't dismiss its flaws, but the movie seems more enjoyable. Maybe Covenant will be the same?
Maybe?  Sometimes, the more you see a movie the easier it becomes to enjoy the ups and ignore the downs.  Although the film still has its best sequence before the finale, which is a big problem.

HuDaFuK

HuDaFuK

#89
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 11, 2017, 01:25:19 PMJust like with Prometheus, do any of you think you'll enjoy it more with repeat viewings?

As Hicks says, I liked it more on my second watch. I still disliked what I disliked first time around, but on the whole I got more enjoyment out of it knowing what was coming.

Quote from: Uncanny Antman on May 11, 2017, 01:33:09 PMAlthough the film still has its best sequence before the finale, which is a big problem.

A long time before. I still think the Neomorph birth sequence was the film's high point.

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