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Title: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Darkness on Aug 04, 2004, 11:21:09 PM

There is an amazing one-minute fight sequence clip posted on Yahoo Movies where the Celtic Predator wrestles about with an Alien – getting his wristblades burnt off in the process but looks as if he’s completely destroying the Alien in melee combat.

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30 Pictures are on the next page. Meanwhile let me know if anyone finds a download link for this clip. Thanks to SaNdMaNxX for the news.

Update: Here it is – a download link for the Celtic Predator vs Alien Fight. Thanks to HopeOfTheFuture for sending me the streaming link as I’ve now uploaded it to FilePlanet. I also don’t know why people are complaining so much about it. I thought it was a great clip. Some things seemed a bit strange but overall, I was definitely pleased with it.

Download: Fight Clip (2.5MB) (Courtesy of FilePlanet)
Download: Fight Clip (2.5MB) (Courtesy of Aliens Online)

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Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: >>AGENT GLENN<< on Aug 05, 2004, 11:24:12 AM
when the alien jumps in the air and stiks his tail into the ground... is it well done? because I can't see it very well!  someone answer please!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 11:26:34 AM
AGENT GLENN yes man it well done man trsut me
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AlienMan on Aug 05, 2004, 11:27:42 AM
Look good or?    ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: >>AGENT GLENN<< on Aug 05, 2004, 11:28:32 AM
omg!! it kickass!! celtic could be a bit more agile but he's ok!! LOL!   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 05, 2004, 11:30:26 AM
this is going to be f---cking great as i thought its going to be...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 05, 2004, 11:31:52 AM
the actor in the pred outfit doesn't move like the original predator, that kind of sucks to me, but then again, this is only one fight and we haven't seen the pred in other fights........he gives me the impression too much of a guy in a suit rather than an alien beingm get me?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cetanu on Aug 05, 2004, 11:32:06 AM
Is it me or does the Alien sound reall weird. It might just be me, but it doesn't sound right, not like its normal self ya know. The squeal sounds too piggish and not enough like the genuine Alien. Either way, the fight scene is shot great. The reason why I think it looks rough in some areas is because they edited stuff out to make it 1:00 in length, that's why. Also, Celtic doesn't roar near enough as he should I think in a fight that intense.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 11:34:08 AM
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 05, 2004, 11:34:15 AM
same here regarding the pred, expected more grunts, or anger coming from him, we'll see in the movie, god that was badass none the less...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Oh on Aug 05, 2004, 11:39:11 AM
ARghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that  was cool.. but yeah he doesn't use the predator "stance" from the first film.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: wolfboy on Aug 05, 2004, 11:41:06 AM
looks kind of comical...and i didn't like the part where he cut the tail, that was weak...but other than that, i liked it.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: inkedspawn on Aug 05, 2004, 11:45:35 AM
The alien looks fantastic, every movment looks great even the cgi parts. the guy in the celtic suit is real stiff, seems only able to use his right arm too. Where he flips up also looks real iffy. i know the clips roungh cut and maybe they hadnt done any thing to celtic to make it look good like teh alien but when i see teh alien im thinknig dam that looks cool, when i look at celtic im thinkin a guy in a suit. his movments is very stiff, as i said b4 kevin peter hall was great in both movies giving the preds real charactor.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Bringer of Death on Aug 05, 2004, 11:46:44 AM
I dont know if any of you noticed this but the pred reverses the direction of his wrist blades to cut the aliens tail.Usualy they go out and down , in that they started like that but then did a 180 to point out and up.That was strange looking to say the least.Now what i think is retarded is why the hell wouldnt the preds come up with weapons and armor impervious to the acid ? makes no sences to me.Everything else looks great except the first time the pred jumps back up of the ground, it looked to man in a suitish but all in all im plesntly surprised with the outcome and feel this movie is seeming to have.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: doubleagent on Aug 05, 2004, 11:47:28 AM
I think that clip from Yahoo, is a clip that late night shows / talk shows would use when an actor from the movie comes on the show.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: wolfboy on Aug 05, 2004, 11:49:51 AM
actually i dunno man...after seeing this clip, i'm getting some bad feelings again.  it doesn't really FEEL like he's a predator.  it's more like he's some kind of wrestler/fighter.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Oh on Aug 05, 2004, 11:51:37 AM
One things for sure it looked like all the footage was really rough somewhat early grainy look to it.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Bringer of Death on Aug 05, 2004, 11:52:32 AM
Now you can all see what im talking about with the preds wrist blades above in the pictures , its the 18th and 19th pic above.inkedspawn i totaly aggre with you on the pred not looking to agile at all, well thats because there dumb idea to make the pred costumes seperate rom the armor pieces wich deffinatly restricts there movement as scene in this little clip.It still looks pretty cool though just to see a pred and an alien dukeing it out.Fu ya.Lets just hope they show alien and predator blood and guts all over the place   ;)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Aug 05, 2004, 11:57:51 AM
Man I hate to say this...but the Alien actually looks cooler than the Celtic Pred....the Alien screams are terrible...they sound like a pig indeed...and the freaking sound of the pred are from a lion...what a hell??? The pred looks bulky, and dumb...it's not agile at all... Some moments look great, like when the Alien jumps to Celtic, but other look so retarded like when Celtic is swinging his wristblades trying to hit the Alien.... Look just ok the pred really troubles me.... at least its Cool to see this guys fighting each other!!!  8 days to go!!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: inkedspawn on Aug 05, 2004, 11:58:03 AM
i agree with the comment about the preds weapons melting when he cuts the tail, in prey/war etc they go toe to toe with aliens with the wrist blades even stabbing them in the neck, head,jaw etc and the dont melt, tho that doesnt make for good cinema.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 11:58:08 AM
Guys, i hate to break it to ya. But that was the best fight sequance I have seen out of any movie this year, the only one that even comes close is some of the fight sequances in the Bourne Supremacy.  but I dont know, I am hoping for a sci fi masterpiece, but catwoman had some good fight sequances but that movie blew, lets hope that is not the case here, but I must say I was highly impressed with the fight sequance.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 11:58:44 AM
looks pretty frekin nasty  pred could be more agile  BRINGER, i know what you mean about the rotation
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 11:59:37 AM
also, im loving the a la Hellboy throw.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Bringer of Death on Aug 05, 2004, 12:00:16 PM
One question, why the hell would you free the alien from being trapped with its tail stuck in the ground ? dont you think that would be the kinda opening you would want to happen? that way you could just get the f**k up and smoke his ass. Duhhhhhh, im sure ill see allot of dumb ass moves like this.Ha ha ha ha ha ha man that pred swings like a girl.what a panzy aaaa hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: xx13 on Aug 05, 2004, 12:00:40 PM
DAmn missed alot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       yeah the pred looks and move slow looks bulky like inkedspawned said like a wrestler.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Frosty on Aug 05, 2004, 12:00:56 PM
Well im very impressed,   the cgi integration with the practicle effects are well done and i hate cgi, im impresed.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: wolfboy on Aug 05, 2004, 12:01:08 PM
i'm still a little weirded out by the scene...i don't know what to think anymore.  i can only hope it looks better on the big screen.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 05, 2004, 12:02:04 PM
I'm not diggin' the pred's movements man, I know its only this short clip, but the damn armor that he's wearing (which I think is too much on the pred personally) makes him look too bulky. Remember Pred 1 and 2 how little armor they had on their shoulders, chests, and their legs down to their feet. The celtic looks cool, but a little overdone I think, just look at his movements. Damn,  hope all the preds aren't as stiff as this guy. The fight sequence is still amazing...still have high hopes for this movie and I can't freaking wait to see the other battles!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 12:02:16 PM
god he wrecked that frekin BUG (thats right hell alien, i said it, BUG akjsldfksahfdbv    ;)  )  pred could definately move better though, have to see more to be definate on it though  also think the soundtrack could be stronger...but i CANT STOP WATCHING IT!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Aug 05, 2004, 12:02:54 PM
Wolfboy I agree...I felt like..."that poor bastard in the suit is having such a hard time trying to move"  instead of "cool!! Celtic rocks!!"  Man...I'm worried even more.... this is not the way it's supposed to be... That's what happens when you don't hire the MASTER STAN WINSTON and you get his "students" Gillis and Woodruff.....
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: inkedspawn on Aug 05, 2004, 12:03:02 PM
bringer, see what u mean about the blades i noticed that also. the end of the blade are pointin away from the wrist, why would u want a weapon to do that? you would want the blades facing the same way as ur hand/fist. unless when they extend out futher than they are able to also move the postion on the end of the blades, tho with an alien on top of u would u have time to make the adjustment
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 12:04:39 PM
*post whore*  I NEED A DL OF THIS!...need to analyze it lol, and play it...over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: RyanPoli on Aug 05, 2004, 12:07:50 PM
That was embarrasingly bad.  Im so depressed right now, thanks PA
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: HellAlien on Aug 05, 2004, 12:08:53 PM
its wierd yes but guys we just saw an alien and a pred fighting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Sure the suit looks kinda weird but man will i enjoy it on big screen. Like Bringa said, they made it a 2 piece suit, the suit + the armor, so its kinda weird lookin but its still damn cool. The alien, nothing to say exep the sound he is doin, exep of that, he is damn good. The blades melting r not such a big deal, it would have been better if they were not but, its the way it is. You cant take that from the alien. Its acid not blood    ;)    And they r literally destroying the set!!!!  ahaha, i love it.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 12:09:19 PM
woah, thought i posted multiple times in a row before...  anyway, the blades are ORIGINALLY in the usual orientation, except when he sees he has a chance to remove the dagger end of the tail he FLIPS the blades so that they will cut with a backhanded stroke.  i think he removed the tail because he knew the alien could escape and that the tails is probably its most dangerous weapon  also the music seems very Predator 1...hope they move better, he does seem kind of "guy-in-a-suitish"
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Bringer of Death on Aug 05, 2004, 12:09:50 PM
Man G0 Dog if this one pred is this restricted in his movements there all going to be.Like I said before it was anderson and co. bright idea to make the body suits and there armor two seperate pieces.Now just think about it, the actors playing the preds have a full body suit on thats probably like 3 inches think then add on all the seperate armor pieces that way who knows how much, and what you get it what you saw, a slow moving bulky ass hell and not very agile predator.Now the preds in the first 2 movies, there body suits connected with there armor thus giving them less stuff to cluter there movments and a much easier costume to monuvore( bad spelling)  in.Now i personaly think that bad decision on the pred costumes is going to cost this film big time, because now they dont look like free moving agile alien hunters that are able to swing and jump from tree to tree or building to building anymore.Now they just look like a man in a rubber suit for petes sake, wich is the last thing you want in a film like this.I just pray that this clip isnt taken directly from the actual finished product.If it is, sorry to say but, well you better start praying for a miracle.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 12:10:32 PM
im ganna say this to start nothing with no one  but damn u guys are killing the movie well scene jesus just be glad u ganna see these to go at it ...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Lord HamsteR on Aug 05, 2004, 12:12:52 PM
in I.Robot in both clips i saw the sound was DIFERENT from the one i heard in movie...& i dont belive that Anderson would have thot of that not good fight..i mean he made Resident Evil where all fights where good! gues this clips is gona be eaten bai critiks in a sec! and i DAM HOPE that this is just a fight bifore THE Fight!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Somebody on Aug 05, 2004, 12:13:13 PM
I don't believe this!  The best freeken' fight between Celtic and an alien, and everybody is already complaning.  Gosh....you guys are just terrible.!!!!! That clip was flawless!........ Simply awesome.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: inkedspawn on Aug 05, 2004, 12:14:36 PM
cant agree more bringer.and ust think if celtic armor is not allowing him to move, hasnt scar got even more armor in his midsection.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: RyanPoli on Aug 05, 2004, 12:15:28 PM
Sandman I really didnt understand what you just said, please rephrase.  And im not going to be happy just seeing an alien and a pred in the same frame.  You know, I could go pick up and pencil and draw a predator-esque stick figure fighting an alien-esque stick figure and ta da! we have an alien fighting a predator.  I want QUALITY.  That was not quality.    Thanks for posting it though, got me excited for sure :)
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: HellAlien on Aug 05, 2004, 12:16:14 PM
And uhhhh, im raising my honor claw to ya, alright i got beat in the FIRST half of this, but its not the entire fight we r seing. Im sure that i come back and that i kick that celtic lil hard moving ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Man, im speakin like if i was that alien, i have to stop the capuccino!  And those blades r probably turning in tha other way to enable celtic to do a reverse hit. Like a back hand but to be sure to cut the tail off in one hit he got his blades around, wich i think it was awsome !    The pred suit is weird yes but guys we just saw a fight that own the entire movie of freddy vs jason. So we have a hell of a movie goin at us.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Bringer of Death on Aug 05, 2004, 12:18:11 PM
Now about the aliens blood melting celtics blades, this is rediculous.Now for anyone who read the novel have a listen and tell me if you agree with me on this
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Now when they describe the quenn all chained up , the preds have sharp barbed chains running through the queens skull, now shes been like this for 1000 years.WHY WOULDNT YOU MAKE YOU WEAPONS AND ARMOR OUT OF THIS MITERIAL! And also the mecanical arms that grab the freshly laid eggs from the queen of the convaerbelt dump unwanted eggs into a furnese to incinerate them, now these arms have also been doing this for a 1000 years and have acid blood all over tham because the say when the eggs are deposited into the furnace acid blood splashed the stone walls surrounding it and they smoke and burn.Now either these preds are retarded and have now clue what the hell there doing, or anderson is a dipshit, or they chose to wear armor and weapons that are impervious to the acid for 1 reason only, to make more of a challenge.Now I hope im right about the last one.Enter Text
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Now you see what i mean.Dummies   :-\  .
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 12:18:38 PM
RYAN  in simple words guys here are killing the movie and if that quality to u guys that lil scene then u guys are mad weird seriously ..........i dunno wha u guys arelooking 4 i mean..............explaing to me wah would be great for u guys???
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Pred813 on Aug 05, 2004, 12:19:01 PM
that looks bad!,  Predator beats the aliens ass!  slams into the wall like ten times then throws him down the hall!  can't wait
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 12:21:38 PM
I am really dissapointed in all of you guys, I have no doubt that alot of you will hate the movie, simply because you want to hate it more then anything, every post you bash this great film, I loved this clip, the parts where the alien pounced were awesome, and have you ever played AVP2? there are heavy predators and there are light predators, if a predator is heavy he will have slow but far more powerful moves, Scar is much slimmer, just look at the photo of him grabbing weyland's wrist.  Predatos come in all different shapes and sizes, but here is what I will do, I will watch AVP with a will to love it, and I will, all you f**ks will think about when you see the movie is  oh! lets see how many things I can point out that are stupid and I'll just ignore everything that is good about this movie!"  YOU GUYS ARE MAKING ME SICK!!!!!  that fight was awesome!!! I will love this movie or I will not, but at least I will see the film wanting to love it, you guys want to hate it! it shows in all of youre lame ass comments!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 12:23:27 PM
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Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 12:24:17 PM
ADAMJZ      amen to that  bro.....
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: wolfboy on Aug 05, 2004, 12:26:44 PM
just cause we're putting out some criticism doesn't mean we're trying to look for faults in the movie.  i don't want to hate the film.  i wouldn't be here if i did.  but seriously, if you're gonna be like that everytime something negative comes up, then i don't know what to tell you when the movies out next week.  everyone else will be MUCH MORE BRUTAL.  i'm still looking forward to this, but i'm not gonna deny that some parts of the fight looked lame.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 12:27:32 PM
blahahaha that alien sounds DEAD when he throws its BUGGY carcasse...hear that hell alien... DEAD! asdfjkhasdfjkskhfkhkjhsghkgksdgkxcvvb   god this movie is gunna be great, after watching it repeatedly over and over, the movements do seem natural for the size of the pred.  MOVIE EVENT OF THE DECADE!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: inkedspawn on Aug 05, 2004, 12:28:03 PM
AdamJZ , i want this movie to be amazing. I love alien/predator, hell i even have the f**kers tattooed on me. But what im and bringer etc are pointin out is mistakes in the story and i cant enjoy it knowing they have gotten it wrong. as for what u said about the heavy/light preds i see your point, but are u blind the guy playin celtic has about as much movment as the dude who plays the bear in the bear in the big blue house which i see evey day thanks to the little one. Thge blades melting just doesnt make sense as in every single avp (darkhorse) book ive read and comic the wrist blades are used as a weapon because teh acid has no effect on them. why the hell would u take a weapon with u knowing that the 1st time u use it the thing will melt?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 12:28:51 PM
oh yeah and going along w/ what hell alien said about the one scene owning all of FvJ, its the same for frekin RIDDICK by a long shot, IMHO, and that was hailed as "the greatest sci-fi movie of all time" or something along those lines.

maybe they havent invented alien-acid proof weapons yet, or maybe they give the youngins (at least on this particular hunt) weapons that WILL melt so its harder
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Bringer of Death on Aug 05, 2004, 12:31:20 PM
yo adam Dont cry there junior.   ;)   Good for you if you think this was a flawless little clip and im glad that youll love every single second of this film.But people like myself notice shit like a pred not moving like it should because its a big mistake to make not because im a picky mother fu#$er, man people who have no clue will see stuff like that and NOT be convinced, thats all im trying to say.These movies are good for a reason , because the monsters are very convincing and believable.Now when you look at this , thats not what your totaly getting.I loved everything about it exept a few parts that dont look right thats all.And for you to say that youll love every part in this movie even if its cheesy as hell is pretty sad my friend.Now im not trying to piss you off but like i said before i realy hope this isnt taken right out of the finished product and that its still part production.But if not then expect all the preds to be that restricted
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Nik on Aug 05, 2004, 12:32:30 PM
i thouhgt is was awsum ,ya the pred does look to bulky, and i dont think that alien is done with either,i also wanna see some scenes with like 2 preds vs 10 or more aliens
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 12:32:36 PM
that wouldnt be cool...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: inkedspawn on Aug 05, 2004, 12:32:39 PM
Also i see this as a mistke in the movie novel  
Spoiler
unblooded arnt allowed to hunt softmeat (humans) so y is it that they attack the humans? i mean in prey the teens go out for revenage and get killed by dachande for going against the code of teh hunter, but in avp they aint in that situation. they are attacking the humans just because they can, also if they wanted them as hosts why would they attack them. im not talking about team being attacked above the ice
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Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 12:36:46 PM
um, different predator clans have different rules, there are many predator clans, this one obviouly will hunt humans if it feels thretened by them.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: inkedspawn on Aug 05, 2004, 12:38:20 PM
ye many clans, but they follow the same code so no i dont agree with you.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Bringer of Death on Aug 05, 2004, 12:38:57 PM
Good point there inkedspawn, now that very reason you mentioned is why i thought scar teamed with lex, i thought he pulled a broken tusk from the comic, disgusted with what his fellow preds have done he desides that there no better than tha aliens there fighting so he sided with the humans.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Oh on Aug 05, 2004, 12:39:14 PM
Well, staying on the positive side Im glad the Pred beat the shit outta that Alien    ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 12:41:23 PM
where do i go to find out how to play this with media or realplayer   ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: fari 21 on Aug 05, 2004, 12:41:51 PM
i would like to say thank you ........................to all da people dat killed da mood for me...to go and WATCH the movie.  THANK YOU/ SPOILERS
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 12:42:50 PM
they do not all follow the same code dumbass, some predator clans dont even hunt humans.  some are Bad bloods and hunt their own kind, obviously these predators in this film are not bad bloods, but If the humans were lured into the pyramid as a trap for hosts in the first place, I am sure they would be disposible to the predators, The predators are not after the humans, but if a human gets in the predators way, thats it for the human.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: fari 21 on Aug 05, 2004, 12:47:56 PM
o h yeah forgot ..the FIGHT IS NICEEEEEEEE of the sweet...hopefully is not the only good mim in dat movie.....
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 05, 2004, 12:51:05 PM
PLEASE SaAdMaNxX, IF YOU CAN GET THE DOWN LOAD, WE GOTTA SEE THAT CLIP!!   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: HellAlien on Aug 05, 2004, 12:52:09 PM
First uhhhh, this i not friendly at all !!! F*CK YOU!!!!! The alien wasnt dead and it will kick the ass of that pred !!  eheh.   Second, alright the pred is moving kinda slow and it cuts bit of the show for us, but ! 1- this is a rough cut, so it might be diff in the movie, and seing it on big screen will mostly change it. So that could look way better than we think.   2- i think that some of ya were hoping for a movie mostly based on the comics. that the pred's metal would be acid proof, that maybe the pred would kick several aliens asses ( like i said this fight is not over !) but this is not a comic based movie, some elements r in it but its mostly new stuff. And dont forget that aliens have acid, not water. So, it would had been dumb to take one of the main weapon out of the aliens. Dont ya think? It would had able the fun to last longer but, those yougns r in a ritual, so maybe that the preds haves acid proof things but the youngs dont.  maybe the combistick is acid proof, the shurikens but not the blades. we dont know the bottom of it yet so...  And celtic is after all the bulkiest of them all. so we maybe saw the worst but the best is still to come guys.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 12:54:31 PM
you are right hell alien, from having read the novel  
Spoiler
that alien kills celtic later, because that alien is the one who becomes gridxt
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so the alien does not die. that is good because I am sided with the aliens.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 12:54:45 PM
yea im looking for it rite now lol....... the download that iz
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: topman on Aug 05, 2004, 12:54:51 PM
im not going to bash this clip but if your a true Alien and Predator fan you would see a few flaws on that clip but remember this is only one fight! so prey to god that the rest are a lot better!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Ermac on Aug 05, 2004, 01:00:24 PM
Major gaffe alert: Notice when the Pred swings the Alien into the walls... the broken debris disappears when they hit the floor.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Jonesy on Aug 05, 2004, 01:00:29 PM
They haven't takem these characters or franchises seriously at all. This looks like something out of the World Wrestling Federation, or Godzilla vs Megladon or whatever. I wonder if we'll get to see a 'pile-driver' or the 'sleeper hold', or maybe the Pred will do a flying drop kick like Superfly Snooka. LOL This is laughable. They sure targeted the right audience, 13 year olds - cuz I can't imagine anyone else taking this seriously. At least its worth a laugh though.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 01:05:42 PM
ERMAC:  those debris are flying around they falling around   not next to them...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Aug 05, 2004, 01:05:51 PM
Ermac!! You're right!!! disappearing debris!! WTF!!?? This is no Rough CUT, I'm sure this is the actual theatrical version God Damn!! P.Anderson screwed it up!! I hate this f***ing Celtic pred.... dumb and slow.....damn rubber suit.... Damn Amalgamated Dynamics!!  Argggghhhh!!!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 05, 2004, 01:06:37 PM
Come on people, is the clip not good at all? are we all just looking at this as we would the comic, am sure in the cinemas it will all tune out differently, have faith!   ;D     boy I want to see this clip badly, BADLY I TELL YOU!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 01:11:31 PM
dont worry J, the clip is awesome, what is not cool is these retards bashing it.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SCAR on Aug 05, 2004, 01:16:59 PM
I don't know what your talking about it look's pretty good to me ,maybe it's just a sample of it in order to get people talking about the movie i'm shure even with this fight that there will be better fight's to come now relax atleast we don't have to way an other 14 years!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cookies on Aug 05, 2004, 01:17:26 PM
Wow i remember reading that the pred move like humans in customes, and do they EVER.  I mean look at that predator move it looks so fake.  Looks like a human in one of those sumo suits and has a hard time moving.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: BKB on Aug 05, 2004, 01:18:10 PM
I don't know folks.. I think it looks absolutely FANTASTIC.. All I can do is sit back and laugh at some of the nitpicky crap some of you keep pointing out like the sound the Alien makes makes him sound more like a Pig??? The Alien sounds exactly the same as the other movies cause it'sthe same people that worked on it..
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: El Demonio Cazador on Aug 05, 2004, 01:19:26 PM
Come on Adam!!! Don't tell me you actually like the ALIEN'S PIG SCREAM?? Dont' tell me you do like the PRED'S lack of agility? What about the disappearing debris?  Don't get me wrong, it's cool and everything but ot sure does have some dissappointing flaws...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: flonge on Aug 05, 2004, 01:24:23 PM
I can't believe you're being so negative about this clip! This is what we've been waiting for, this is a Predator kicking some alien ***!!! I was impressed to see that PA managed to make a style in this movie that dosn't remind me of anything else, this ISNT a Matrix wanna'be or anything like that. this is actually something new... A retro, slowmotion, lucid fighting sequence between the two aliens we like! I don't understand what is wrong with this at all, and did you hear the music??? this is really good!!! The alien screams that much because it's wild and, has encountered a HEAVY enemy, the predator is pretty silent because it's consentrated on his hunt! the fast clipping is well done, you have to understand that this is not only CGI so it isn't false movements, like some of you would expect from a movie like this. I love it!!! never has the predator or the alien seem so impressive and fight hungry before!  I can't wait to see some more fights, and to see this picture build itself up to this type of fights, and climaxes!!!  Fans like me who have been waiting since Predator 2 for this movie will appreciate that Paul Anderson has finally done at least one great fight between the A. and the P.  I hope the whole movie contains scenes of this quality!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cookies on Aug 05, 2004, 01:24:37 PM
The thing i like is how the alien doesnt look anything like that mcfarlane toys.  It actually looks like that life size statue u see at the comic show (space show?) Well the close ups of it looks crap becuase i dont like its mouth.  That statue is amazing the pred and alien looks perfect.  It has to be the next best alien design next to the ones from ALIENS.  I wish i can buy it.  http://superherohype.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Comic_Con_2004&image=avp.jpg&img=&tt= (http://superherohype.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Comic_Con_2004&image=avp.jpg&img=&tt=)
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 01:24:59 PM
by the way El Demino Cazador, yet another case that I can say to you "You are a f**king moron" So what! if there is dissapering debris, that is called a continuallity error, almost ALL movies have them!!!! in aliens for example, you see ripley pull a flamethrower off the rack first then she lays down the pulse rifle first, and the when whe pulls out the pulse rifle, it shows her laying down the flamethrower. also when bishop catches newt from being sucked out the air lock, you can see lance come out of a hole in the floor, In Alien 3, when the doctor is preforming an autopsy in the morgue, he has a large amount of blood on his shirt, then, when the shot cuts back, he has a small amount of blodd on his shirt. ALL MOVIES HAVE LITTLE MISTAKES LIKE THAT!!! IS IS NORMAL!!!!! just because some debris dissapears dosent automatically mean the movie will sick.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 05, 2004, 01:25:46 PM
AdamJZ bro, I just reckon everyone here is just so nervous about how this movie pans out that everyone will be every that much more critical,  were all fans here so I suppose everyone just doesn't want the film to go tits up ( thats' bad ' by the way)   In the end I believe the film will do well, remember peeps ...  ...ITS HARD TO JUDGE PROPERLY ON A TINY SCREEN,  ( boy, o boy, o boy, I NEED to see this CLIP, no pressure SaNdMaNxX    ;D  )
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Real Fan on Aug 05, 2004, 01:26:08 PM
Did anyone notice the poor helpless soul with the spear stuck through him?  Look to the left when the Alien first jumps on the predaor.  Also, you guys complaining about agility...geeze look at the way the pred punches Arnold at the end of Predator.  Looks totally like a puss if you ask me.  You know...we have different fighting styles as humans...wrestling....karate..etc.  Maybe the celtic pred uses a different fighting style.  Ever think of that?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SHURIKEN on Aug 05, 2004, 01:28:07 PM
i cant watch the vid but man it looks rather promising  i love how celtics blades can cut upwards, maybe they are jointed to allow different articulation on the spot for differetn needs
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 01:28:52 PM
youre right, thats awesome! the guy just laying ther with the spear in him. tight!

also, El Demino, I diddnt think for a second that sounded like a pig scream, all though, the sound was taken from a pig, they mixed it and changed the pitch, its at least better then the elephant sound it made in the second film.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Erez on Aug 05, 2004, 01:31:11 PM
I liked that clip though marred by several flaws. The alien and pred sound aweful and the music didn't fit the scene imo. The pred acts like some wrestler as was said. (Hopefully only the Celtic one will act that way and the less bulky preds will be more agile). I liked the effects a lot, and the alien looks awesome,  (from the profile it reminds me of the alien from the first movie), but it's movements are a bit rough in some parts. The slow motion part wasn't so well done too. All the rest is great, and lets hope this scene is gonna be polished more before the release.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 01:31:12 PM
well im still looking the sites in going to are blocking it lol not thattheres much but when i DL them fiel error lol ill keep looking
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Real Fan on Aug 05, 2004, 01:31:53 PM
For those of you who cant view the movie..I know the problem.  Open up you windows media player then go to options.  Select the "allow internet connection" option.  It will work.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: flonge on Aug 05, 2004, 01:32:45 PM
Hey people, this is actually the first time we have ever heard some music from the movie. I have to say I really liked it!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 05, 2004, 01:35:04 PM
Which parts were the best?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 01:36:17 PM
my favorite part was when the alien leaped and shoved his tail into the ground.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 01:36:18 PM
to me  there was the alien slaming hes tain to teh ground  and the pred turning hes blades also spinning the alien around lol
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 01:40:37 PM
damn that grid alien! sneaky bastard wont go down! asdfjkhasfhcjhvbkljshfdkjhsdlhvbkjasf  movies gunna be so damn awesome... oh yeah, you guys are supposed to pick out all the piquieune little flaws AFTER the movie has been realeased, not before.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 01:43:14 PM
thank u UHHHHH thats very true dont  kill the damn films guy seriously the shit lookz awesome and if ya dont like  koo but dont make seem like iz the worst shit in the wold neither
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 05, 2004, 01:43:35 PM
I don't have windows on my computer ( Mac G4) sigh! I have quicktime though.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 01:44:54 PM
it should work with quick time J  if u got MSN or YAHOO messanger OR AOL AIM  let me get one of them lets see wah we can do so u can c it
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Real Fan on Aug 05, 2004, 01:45:05 PM
I like the clip, and I don't see any flaws.  The only thing that looks a little awkward is when the pred slashes at the Alien.  Looks a little weak.  That's the only thing I can complain about though.  Yeah, I think the pred stance with outsretched arms is missing, but hey, the clip is cut short!  Maybe we'll see it! This is the best scene in an Alien movie since Aliens in my opinion.  Also...there has been a lot of nit-picking and I know we all have our own opinions...I am surprised because the nit-picking has been about such fine details yet people have not yet made one comment about the purple acid...Oooooh it's purple...oooh gay!!  Who the hell cares!  the clip looks amazing!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cthulhu on Aug 05, 2004, 01:47:19 PM
I thought it was very well done, if you keep watching it you notice the Alien bit his gauntlet, what a dumbass..
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 01:47:22 PM
blahahahahahasdfhkjahfiauerhasjdf word!  pred blood better be green though
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: flonge on Aug 05, 2004, 01:49:03 PM
J: I liked the tail cutting and when the predator bashes the alien and throws him
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Aliasp on Aug 05, 2004, 01:52:06 PM
Man no pleasing some ppl. I think the bulk and movement of the Predator are perfect ...watch the 1st Predator and u will see just how cumbersome that one is ... Anything that big is gonna have some slowness. And its great to see the Alien too looking real and I love the fact that PA has kept alot in the shadows ...   Man that is one killer scene and to the Boo Boys ... NO FUKN pleasing u guys ever right ?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 05, 2004, 01:53:49 PM
Man, this clip sounds wicked ...     PLEASE MY COMPUTER, HELP ME OUT PLEASSSSE I BEG!!   ???     ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 01:54:52 PM
QuoteFor those of you who cant view the movie..I know the problem. Open up you windows media player then go to options. Select the "allow internet connection" option. It will work.
i went under tools/options/player and clicked on connect to the internet (overides other commands and still doesnt work)   ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Neocharge on Aug 05, 2004, 01:55:13 PM
I can't see crap. It's all blury   ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 01:56:49 PM
it always works with quicktime but it doesnt list it as one of my viewing options
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Real Fan on Aug 05, 2004, 02:01:58 PM
thebiggestpigme....do you have windows media 9?  That could be the problem.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: bobwilly on Aug 05, 2004, 02:04:09 PM
to bad  Celtic gest killed buy that same alien
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thinkugotachance on Aug 05, 2004, 02:05:19 PM
the clip rules, i cant believe we're so close....it seems like just yesterday i was listening to everyone bitch about PA directing...funny how some things never get resolved
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: pred-maniac on Aug 05, 2004, 02:07:34 PM
ped doesn't look agile, but hey every pred out there in my fantasy world could look different maybe he worked out.just like every human looks different. About the blade melting come on i have read the books,avp prey the blade doesn't melt niether does the spear. Besides if the pred knew the blade was gonna melt y  he use it? the pred probably has all that armor on for alien purposes duhhh. I dont think u guys would want to be a pred fighting an alien with out a little safety that would probably be for good use u wouldnt want alien acid going on u first u would want it going on last. If some of u people thought more logical then maybe u wouldn't be complaing so much. Dont feel so negative about it this movie im sure u guys want a Grade A fantastic 5 star movie sh*t i know i would. But in the world u cant always get what u want.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 02:21:30 PM
i downloaded 9 but it show up on the thing on 7.1
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Erez on Aug 05, 2004, 02:23:29 PM
Yeah well, I hoped to see something new and original...., but all I saw was some more overused movements like the side-rolling dodge form the tail and that pred's spin throw, And the thrown Alien is really "demystified". Well here comes the bitchin' again, can't help it lol   :)  . Anyway I'm going to enjoy watching this movie no matter what.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: wolfboy on Aug 05, 2004, 02:23:53 PM
download Windows Media Player 9 and restart your computer.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 02:44:51 PM
i give up the only way im seeing this is if they put it up in quicktime or let us download it.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Predgirl aka Lavon on Aug 05, 2004, 02:45:02 PM
I don't understand why everyone is complaining over one clip.  If you notice you're viewing it on the internet not on the big screen.  One reason is the bad quality of what program your using I'm trying to use Windows Media Player to see it better, but its not working for me.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 02:49:38 PM
I remember seeing a tv spot where a pred grabs an alien and throws it like the hulk tank scene in the hulk movie is that in the clip?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 02:59:26 PM
i hope there a predalien that does that to a predator in the movie. think of it, a pred blasts it but it just gets mad and goes nuts on the pred. It throws it into a piller headfirst and when it hits the back of the dudes spin comes flying out his asshole!   ???     ;D     ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Heavy Metal Spike on Aug 05, 2004, 03:08:10 PM
As posted on the other stream 1 hour ago:  Talk about frustrating - tried to view this at work but I can only look at Quicktime stuff not realplayer or windoze muddier player.   As a result - I got the sound but not the picture.   What can I say - it sounds great!!!!!!!!!!!   Guess I'll have to keep my eyes shut for the entire movie now (LOL)   Off home so i can see the whole thing properly - seeyalater you muthas ....    8) 

And now I'm home .....  Small, blurry, bad quality - but lurverleee!  That bit towards the end where our boy swings the bug JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Power Hour dudes!!!!!   Preds friggin ROCK!!!!!!      ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D 
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Revenant on Aug 05, 2004, 03:19:14 PM
I thought it looked pretty damn cheesy...the Pred kinda reminded me of Michaelangelo from Ninja Turtles..I was waiting for him to pull out some nunchaku and yell "Cowabunga alien dude!"
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SHURIKEN on Aug 05, 2004, 03:24:16 PM
i know its peoples opinions but i am tired of people putting this movie down when they havent seen the official movie  so stay off the f**king site from now on if you are going to write anything bad towards this movie  its a fan site and you drive people away by criticizing it
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Heavy Metal Spike on Aug 05, 2004, 03:24:48 PM
Guess he'd be using his infamous cutting 'pizza' on the lil' skittering one then ...  That's one of the weapons they've been keeping a closely guarded secret!!!!      :D     :D     :D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: RyanPoli on Aug 05, 2004, 03:27:53 PM
so SHURIKEN, i must like every piece of media released on this movie...or leave the site?   ...lol   Yes, what a great idea.  How about no more complaining about complainers.  Because im tired of hearing people complain about people complaining who havnt seen the official movie yet.  So if you plan to complain about a complainer just LEAVE because you are driving people away.  lol
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: LyricalPharaoh on Aug 05, 2004, 03:32:31 PM
Scar look so clunky, especially when he gets up after leg kicking the alien away.  it looked like someone was playing with the fastforward key on some of the alien scenes.  awesome when the predator swings the alien by the tail into the columns then the toss.  Scar spends a little too much time looking at his acid melted blades.  if this is a taste of things to come ill be disappointed cuz the Predators just aren't as agile as they were in P1 and P2.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Galmorzu on Aug 05, 2004, 03:35:58 PM
Wow, that scene really wasn't finished yet.  When people said the debris disappeared as it hit the ground, it wasn't even subtle, it was obvious that the FX just weren't done yet.  For anyone keeping track, this is just more good news that the screening is so late.  It's literally down to the last minute and the FX are still being polished (as happens with lots of movies).
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Heavy Metal Spike on Aug 05, 2004, 03:37:15 PM
Heeeheeeheeheeeeeeee!  AvP: Alienators vs. Procrastinators  Tell ya what - why don't we all dress up in rubber suits and beat the crap out of one-another instead?  I want the Godzilla suit with the inbuilt flame thrower.  MuuuhaaMuhaahaahaaahaaah!    :)    PS: I want to complain about the complainers complaining in a non-compliant tone about the complaining (or something like that - just didn't want to feel left out of the thread - man - I NEED A BEER!)
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: pinhead on Aug 05, 2004, 03:55:01 PM
that was cooool
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: The Reverend on Aug 05, 2004, 04:04:11 PM
oh god i hate noticing everything, The senes are two sort its not smooth at all, but before you get all crazy, watch it again and notice how it keeps showing the chericters in half actions. The sense arent showing it long enough to get a good picture. But dont get me wrong its kick as but I know about studing film.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 04:09:23 PM
that would mean its probably not complete then, correct?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Galmorzu on Aug 05, 2004, 04:11:52 PM
I might be wrong (and I probably am), but does anyone else get the feeling that the clip isn't actually how it's going to be fully edited for the movie?  Like it's an ultra condensed version with all the face-off motions between the creatures taken out, just to keep things moving fast, as if it were going to be shown during talk-show appearances?  It really doesn't feel like a finished product yet (as shown by the unfinished fx).
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: yautja on Aug 05, 2004, 04:13:48 PM
SaNdmaNxX that was extra nice madd cool. The whole fight sequence seemed  too cool. Thanks to baseman for  telling us about it. SaNdmaNxX thanks for that info it was great. Whoever wins I'm in the predator's corner. Take care   ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: The Reverend on Aug 05, 2004, 04:17:22 PM
i think i agree with you Galmorzu because i notice some senes that have the chericters in different spots, such as right after the pred cuts the tail off (when he is underneath the alien) he gets up and hes half way across the room.    ???   like come on. and there is a couple other like that but i dont what to tear the movie apart.   :)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 04:20:31 PM
not a prob YAUTJA  i gotz the preds coner to    ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Galmorzu on Aug 05, 2004, 04:29:15 PM
Reverend:  Exactly, or when the alien's tail smashes over the pred's head into the wall when the cut before showed them still coming at each other from a way apart.  It just doesn't feel like a final cut yet, more like one last, final teaser to get people hyped up.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: yautja on Aug 05, 2004, 04:36:04 PM
Appreciate it SaNdMaNxX for the props. I love to come to this sight to see avp fans. THese AVP fans are real friends of mine .Peace take care   ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     :)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 04:57:28 PM
um...Mr.Sandyman...could...u....um... give us the download link becouse my docter said that the brain tumor was caused by stress and i think the stress was caused by a lak of alien ass kicking and he also said that if i could see the clip that the tumer wouldnt get any bigger and i could live to be 7. Thank you.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: uhhhhh on Aug 05, 2004, 05:10:28 PM
uhhhhh....great lol
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Aug 05, 2004, 05:14:27 PM
BIGGESTPIG: uhmm ill work on it with one of  my amigos buuuuuuuuuuttttttttt  iz like they have it blocked buuuttt lets c ....................   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Alieor on Aug 05, 2004, 05:32:10 PM
New avp pictures are so cool.   ;D     :D     8)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: BKB on Aug 05, 2004, 06:00:29 PM
Erez | 05 Aug 2004 01:3096 I liked that clip though marred by several flaws. The alien and pred sound aweful and the music didn't fit the scene imo. The pred acts like some wrestler as was said. (Hopefully only the Celtic one will act that way and the less bulky preds will be more agile). I liked the effects a lot, and the alien looks awesome, (from the profile it reminds me of the alien from the first movie), but it's movements are a bit rough in some parts. The slow motion part wasn't so well done too. All the rest is great, and lets hope this scene is gonna be polished more before the release. -Erez..  Hate to say it Erez, but how much polishing can you do on something that sounds a little overly nitpicky on your part to a film that's out in 7 days??? Face it: It's finished, it's in the Can and you should lower your over criticizing of this because it seems when hardcore fans pull shit like this, they ruin the film for themselves, not the studio or director that does that, but the overly nitpicky fans that need to stop expecting perfection from stuff like this.. Hell ALIENS was Awesome but if I was as nitpicky as alot of you are, I could probably find a ton of goddamn flaws in that film and that was made by the so called master James Cameron.. Wow, imagine that?? Cameron's the only one that everyone feels can do this or Ridley Scott, yet I could pick apart there movies to if I wanted.. NO movie is perfect.. Nada, zilch, NONE so suspend some imagination folks and stop being such diehard overly nitpicky film critic's that dissect the "FUN" out of "FUN".. Sorry about the rant, but this pessimism and cynicism is getting the best of me and maybe that's because I'm easily pleased.. Maybe you all should try that, you might find you'll enjoy this more???..   ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: wolfboy on Aug 05, 2004, 06:08:35 PM
actually, i don't think even Cameron could pull off a good AvP.  let's face it, it's not gonna be an epic, and that's pretty much what Cameron aims at.  he knows it's hard so he just says something along the lines of "it's a stupid idea blahblah".  AvP will most likely end up being an entertaining movie, which i guess is fine since obviously Ridley and Cameron would never do it.  at least it's getting made.  however, as a fan of both series, you'll have to notice some things that are out of place.  believe me, i wanted to like the clip.  i actually did like the beginning when the alien jumped on top of the predator and crushed the altar thing....but then when i saw the way Celtic got up after the fall...   :-\    i'll probably still like it though...for it's entertainment value though...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: littlewhitekid on Aug 05, 2004, 06:29:23 PM
I liked it, but I thought that the predator should be more digital, cause you can see that its definalty a guy in a suit, and it looks like it would die in three seconds against the alien. A guy in a suit reminds me of the old godzilla movies,and i hoped that this movie would have much better graphics when it came to the predator.I like how the alien moves, I only would have liked the tail to be more controled and not so all over the place, its like all over the place and then its like wack, stuck in the ground. The only thing that worries me is that i heard this is one of the best fighting sceens in the movie, and i didnt think it was that great.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: KoldKonFusion on Aug 05, 2004, 06:54:54 PM
I am still trying to comprehend why anyone would make the Predator that bulky for a movie that requires him to make a lot of fast movement in a confined space. "It just doesnt make sense." - Billy.  I sincerely hope the music in that clip is not in the film. I am very worried about my beloved creatures.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Predator Fan on Aug 05, 2004, 07:06:58 PM
Well I for one loved the clip,as to the Predator,your whining ahh he's just a guy in a suit looking like a wrestler..ok it is a guy in a suit,kevin peter hall looked like a guy in a suit in 1 and 2.  As to predators,wh are all of you comparing the this fight with Hal''s movements? Predators also come in different sizes.  Speaking of Wrestling..Predators are like people compare the size of Andre the Giant,Hulk Hogan etc to other Wrestlers like Ray Mesterio,Chris Jericho! they're all 4 in the same business but way diferent in fighting sytles and especially size..and did you really want a CGI Predator do the fighting...Hell no..so stop crying..it's a bulky guy in a suit look.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: hunter x on Aug 05, 2004, 07:32:29 PM
no matter  how good they try to make a movie, stupid people will always have something  bad to say about it . just like now whit avp, nothing makes them  happy, what the f**k is wrong whit them.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: PREDATOR BLADE on Aug 05, 2004, 07:54:12 PM
the best part is were celtic is swining the Alien around like a rag doll celtic is one powerful pumped up steriod freak i want what hes taking
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: PREDATOR BLADE on Aug 05, 2004, 07:56:39 PM
i think it is funny how celtic gets up on the first scene
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Aliminator on Aug 05, 2004, 07:57:50 PM
...looks cool...but where are the other alien and preds....i thought it's a battle not a fight...hope not ended up like freddy vs jason...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 08:26:03 PM
Chezzy, Emotional Speech.  Hey guys, I just wanted to say that I have had the best time of my life waiting for this film with you guys.  I joined this site about a year and a half ago, and have checked it daily ever since. I rember way back when we got the first predator picture, it fells like so long ago.  I have had such fun hearing the good opinions and the bad ones and hearing the uplifting news and the upsetting.  and even if this film does suck, I will always remember the huge hype I shared with you guys for this film. thank you guys. and thanks darkness for making this great site, I was devestated when I heard it was going to be shut down, but thanks to gamespy, that diddnt happen. so *holds up glass* heres to hoping AVP will be as fun as it was waiting for it.  god bless you guys, I am leaving to go to california to see the AVP premiere on friday, I will be back late next week and write my review, I hope you guys read it. once again thanks for all the good times  AdamJZ
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Shadow of FUS on Aug 05, 2004, 08:35:43 PM
Bah.Dont trash Freddy VS Jason.They did the impossible by putting both franchises together.Thing is with AVP,its allready been done in comics and games.Give respect where its due.

Also,that movie was for the fans like how AVP is.People who arent crazy for PRedator and alien are gonna say it sucks no matter what.Do you see a pattern forming back to square one?   ;) 
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 08:43:08 PM
AVP is for money, not fans, if it were for fans it would have been R
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: ouch on Aug 05, 2004, 08:56:10 PM
wow i have been looking foward to this movie for almost a year now and as the days go by im becoming more and more disappointed. that fight scene was awful and all of PA's movies have been terrible. im a huge fan but im going to go ahead and admit it this movie is going to suck balls.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 05, 2004, 09:13:57 PM
Don't worry SaNdMaNxX, hopefully they'll sort out a way of watching it on quicktime, thanks anyways bro   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: carrol on Aug 05, 2004, 09:14:48 PM
of corse he doesnt move like the original predator cause the person who is in the pred siut in pred 1 & 2 died a year after making the second predator you know (kevin peter hall)
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Saint Sinner on Aug 05, 2004, 09:20:04 PM
I hardly believe all of the Predators will move and fight the same. The fight ontop of the pyramid with the ancient Predators is supposed to show off some sleek Ninjitsu type stuff or whatever with the spear-work, and in the brieft waist-up scene of one of them holding the spear up, it does NOT have the bulky look to it. The arms and what not look pretty sleek, actually. They even said, especially in one of the set reports, that there was a "crappy" suit which let them make all kinds of movement and the more fully detailed suit for close-ups and stuff. I just don't think it's fair to write-off or even base the whole movie on a few trailers or clips. Let's just wait another week or so.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Spud on Aug 05, 2004, 09:30:06 PM
Oh dear...looks like Anderson's gonna ruin another great premise...why, why, WHY does he think slow-motion looks cool? It made Soldier look like an episode of the A-Team...and frankly, the Predator and Alien just like men in rubber suits. This is gonna suck big time. Thanks Anderson, thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 05, 2004, 09:53:34 PM
Um.... Spud, could you please name any film out of the alien and predator series in which thet do not look like guys in a rubber suit?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Nick on Aug 05, 2004, 10:02:45 PM
Ok, here's my rundown of the clip.  First of all, the graphical presentation is great, mixing cgi with actualy footage makes it looks great.  You can tell they've worked good on that part.  Second, the Celtic Predator IS bulky, but so was the Elder in Predator 2.  So I'm ok with that.  I am NOT ok with the movements at all.  The sounds the Celtic Predator was aming was "alright", we can't jump the gun and say "THATS NOT HOW A PRED SOUNDS, OMG" because each Predator is unique, and maybe Elder's have a little "lion" in their voice, more than the screeching younger one, such as in Predator 2.  The Alien was great.  The sounds were pretty reched.  I want to haar some "hawwwwwww"'ing from the aliens when I see the film.  Not pig squeals.  I didn't even get to see the Alien's cool tongue in this clip.  Hopefully we'll be able to see them use it in action.  The setting, cinematography etc. all look good.  So all I'm hoping for is a few changes in other fight scenes.  That's only one, so I won't jump the gun.  Thanks for reading.  - Nick
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SandwormPhish on Aug 05, 2004, 10:02:50 PM
My thoughts.  On Predator Agility- This is pretty much all coming from the comic books.  In fact IIRC we've never seen a Predator do any of the kind of ninja agility some people seem to be expecting, plus Celtic certainly seems to be the bulkiest of the bunch.  The first time Celtic gets up though looks pretty awkward  Dissappearing Debris: Dissapointing continuity gaff.  Every film's got them (even aliens.. such as the Pulse Rifle that begins magically shooting out shell casings even though it's supposed to fire caseless ammo)  Claw swinging- Didn't look all that great when he was doing it but I'm willing to let it go since upon viewing it a second time it was rather obvious he was aiming for the alien's tail to remove the reach advantage it granted.. unfortunately the alien wasn't cooperating and the tail was a small, difficult target.  Pred Fighting Style- Maybe some people haven't noticed but in the two pred movies most of the pred HTH fighting consists mostly of overwhelming strength.. kinda like what we see here.  Sounds- The alien hiss I was fine with but the Pred could have used some more auditory OOMPH.. like maybe that uber-pissed roar of theirs like we get in the IE trailer.  Guy with Spear- Sucks to be him    ;D    The fight itself- This is the kind of stuff I want to see when two superhumanly strong aliens start wailing on each other.. the surrounding area getting thrashed.  The Alien- Looks friggin great.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Aug 05, 2004, 10:30:57 PM
hmn, didn't see GT's post about it.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: MoBiUG on Aug 05, 2004, 10:41:51 PM
Ho... Ly... SHIT!!!! THAT'S AWESOME!!!! SERIOUSLY!!!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: The Real Predator on Aug 05, 2004, 10:49:11 PM
i am unable to view it either, i would greatly appreciate if someone could convert this to a quicktime file and send it here. thank you  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat....................-real pred
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: MoBiUG on Aug 05, 2004, 10:53:48 PM
Man, just reading some of your comments. Pretty funny stuff, you guys cannot be pleased.  Agilility - We're looking at an 8ft tall alien beefcake. Noone ever said the thing should be graceful like a Ballerina. It's fighting an Alien, something we're supposed to believe, from the novels and comics, is their toughest prey. Also remember that this isn't an experienced hunter, he's here to prove himself. Regardless, the stuff he was doing KICKED ASS!!!  Sound - Jesus, aliens shriek, preds... grunt who cares? Sounded cool to me.  I mean - Alien swung and smashed through concrete pillars = AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Saint Sinner on Aug 05, 2004, 11:01:03 PM
What do you know! The Real Predator, aka Mr. Fibber, making his long awaited special appearance!     ;)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Harry Turner on Aug 05, 2004, 11:11:29 PM
Well looks cool, but tyhe alien has never fighted like that before, why didnt it do all that fancy stuff in the other films? just a question    :D  , does looks super cool though.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: MoBiUG on Aug 05, 2004, 11:18:20 PM
He didn't do any of that stuff in the other films because...  A) The effects weren't as good. B) The other films weren't based on a comic book.  The twats at AICN are sounding off, saying the Predator looks short therefore Anderson sucks and so does this film. Infact, Knowles says his sources tell him this is Anderson's WORST FILM. From that clip, what we know of the story... I think it's safe to say Knowles weight is crushing his brain   ;D   I wish the peeps over there would open their mouths once they KNOW what they're on about. The Predator is 8ft tall. That's not short. The aliens are just quite big   >:D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: BIgBilly on Aug 05, 2004, 11:29:03 PM
goddamn all these people dissing this clip act like theyre the gods of these two monsters and they know everything about them, just because the first two preds had lighter armour and were more agile doesnt mean that EVERY predator is like that! are all humans the same? do we all have the same build and speed? no. i love this clip!!! so damn good and i have seen some very good arguments defending the movie by :Real Fan, AdamJZ  and uhhhhh. goodonya guys!    :D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: MoBiUG on Aug 05, 2004, 11:43:19 PM
Fav bit - The slow motion charge where the Alien gets totally smashed through the wall   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 05, 2004, 11:53:44 PM
thanks Huijs, i agree it cant be finished. Its probibly like when the self-distruct scence was shown first on the internet trailer it was incomplete. Then when it was shown on all the other trailers just a short time earlier it was done. But still some parts where just plain old great. When its in the movie i hope that it'll all be slowed down. Im sure this couldnt be the same quality stuff they showed at comic-con, its decent enough, but could hardly incite 5,000 people to blow there tops. People cant judge the final film by this stuff.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Ermac on Aug 06, 2004, 12:11:35 AM
I have a feeling that may be a rough cut. I don't think they would have used that overused "shing" sound effect when the blades slice the tail.

Also, if you listen carefully, round about in the clip where picture six is you can hear the "Hopper" (flying arachnid) from Starship Troopers. Another movie Amalgamated Dynamics Inc. worked on.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: C4RN4G3 on Aug 06, 2004, 12:23:44 AM
Wow, awesome, can't wait for the movie, the movie hits theaters here (the netherlands) on 10 octobre    ???    By the way, J: I also have a Mac and i can view the movies, there are mac versions of Real Media player and Windows Media Player, just search for them with google.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: MoBiUG on Aug 06, 2004, 12:43:53 AM
People are sounding off about this all over the web and most of it is extremely negative... Which is weird because, for me, it's the coolest thing we've seen yet.  I think the footage shown at the Comic-Con was a group battle as it involved Scar at some point and all we have here is Celtic.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: inkedspawn on Aug 06, 2004, 01:19:06 AM
AdamJZ, your the moron my friend to actaully believe that clips is as good as what you say. i want this movie to be as great as thenext person, but not even talking about celtics movment he still looks like something from power rangers. i love predator, its my fav thing ever you only gotta looks around my home to see that but im not blind to the fact that celtic looks like a guy in a suit. not everything avp is gold, as much as id liek it to be but it isnt. celtic looks horrible.as for the alien sound, ye i can hear the pig but to be honest it doesnt bother me, what bothers me is if this is say a cut down of a  scene and then noise being made my celtic is what we will hear then thats also bad. the little grunts celtic makes aint to hot.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SHURIKEN on Aug 06, 2004, 01:45:14 AM
i dont know where yall get this agility factor from the first two predaotr movies?  the only agile thing i see him doing is swinging from tree to tree       jumping     and running fast  any other agility when he fought arnold or danny       i dont remember any         can someone point it out
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: MoBiUG on Aug 06, 2004, 01:47:18 AM
Man... Disturbing fanatatic. The clip rocks. End.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Aug 06, 2004, 01:57:56 AM
whoa whoa whoa hold on guys, this is a barely edited clip, this is just a quick thing they wanted to show on the net, did you ever see thec lips that came out for t3 b4 it came out everyone was like shit it sucks but it turned out great because they put in a few cuts here and there and it looked alot better! this is just rough guys! calm the hell down!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: HUNTER on Aug 06, 2004, 02:39:31 AM
some guys can keep saying that it looks bad... i think it looks awesome ! I can keep watching this clip over and over again, i mean.. c'mon, after so many years we see Predators fighting against aliens and humans. We have been waiting for this so long ! Just be happy that they made a movie like this after so many years.  And about this fight scene... Maybe they have changed things about this scene, and that we are watching the "old" fighting scene.. who knows? They can change so many things. We will see it when we watch the real movie. Just be happy guys, i dont care what some think, IAM HAPPY ! AVP WILL ROCK THE WORLD !    8)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cetanu on Aug 06, 2004, 02:52:56 AM
This clip is obviously a rough cut guys. Seriously, have you not payed attention to any of the AvP trailers prior to this clip. In the preview with rock n' roll music blaring in the backrground, it shows Celtic charging the Alien with his left fist extended and he's roaring like crazy just like the Predator should sound, not grunting like a lion which was the case in the "rough cut." Also, when Celtic slams the Alien through that pillar, in the rock n' roll trailer the camera views it from the left side, not the right like in this clip. Little things like that were left out guys, but the Alien I hope is edited to sound much better, its way too piggish. The Predator better sound a lot better too when the scene is polished up for the theater.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: inkedspawn on Aug 06, 2004, 03:11:40 AM
SHURIKEN - about the agility question u ask. u say about preds swinging/jumping etc. well theres your own answer my friend, a being over 7feet tall doing those things and remember in p2 when he drops down bewteen the group in the meat lockup then he jumps real high out of teh way, again agility.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 06, 2004, 03:11:42 AM
Ah....The Real Predator, barck are you? well by now you must have figured out that your bogus predalien roumer was false. and many of your other claims haven been proven false also. What did I tell you guys? people do this on all big movies, say they are in on stuff and 'know people' and that they gots the scoop. I couldent believe that everyone actually believed him!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Erez on Aug 06, 2004, 03:21:48 AM
BKB don't be so extreme, perfect or zero. I don't expect this movie to be perfect. I said all those things because it could be done BETTER easily. All the things I nitpicked about were things that existed in previous films of both franchises and don't exist in this particular scene. Those previous movies weren't perfect, but they were better than this particular scene if it's the final version as you say. Anyway, for TRUE FANS the movie will be enjoyable no matter what I say right? The thing I do wrong here is that I compare one scene to a whole movie (though I believe that scene is a special part of the movie) so for now you can ignore what I say. I hope I'm not ruining the fun to any of you, and I know that when I'll finally step towards the ciname going through line 7 sitting in chair 11, all the excitement when I first heard of this movie will come back to me big time!    ;)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Scar on Aug 06, 2004, 03:42:52 AM
  >:D   Now hold on a minute the predator getting his wristblades burnt the predators weapons equipement and armor are impervios to the acid period.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 03:43:42 AM
I can't stop watching that clip! its great, the alien CG effects are great, the pred, although a little stiff at times, looks kick ass still, the fight was amazing, ITS ALL GOOD!!! Anyone notice that the clips we've seen on the previews with the alien and predator fighting is from this one fight alone? We haven't, or at least I haven't seen any previews on tv with clips from any other fight besides on top of the pyramid scene!  Another thing, this fight is exactly as it happened in the novelization and in the novelization there are like three fight scenes only If I remember right. Still haven't seen the Queen running though, is it on the net somewhere?

About the wristblades being affected by the acid, I thought that was good realistic cinema. I mean, yeah the pred's shit is not affected by the alien's acid in the comic books.....well..........this isn't a comic book movie. If the blades weren't affected by the acid, personally, I would of thought that was very dumb. But it was, so it makes it even better. My opinion there scar.....
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Celtic on Aug 06, 2004, 03:47:17 AM
  >:D  Now hold on a minute the predators armor, weapons, and equipment are impervios to the acid of an Alien period. And I think Celtic Predator is facing Grid Alien.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 06, 2004, 03:52:07 AM
Celtic, this is 200 years before the comics, I am sure they invent Acid proof armor later. besides if they did it in the movie it would give the predators an unfair advantage.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Rafael on Aug 06, 2004, 03:56:44 AM
There is no pleasing anyone here. I think the clip is great and it could not have been done better. This isn't Alien, or Aliens or Predator or Predator 2, this is AVP!! I think that logically the bulky movements of the pred only complement his bulky build as most big guys aren't that agile to begin with. I was glad to see both creatures done the way they were and to me it seems from this fight sequence and everything else I have seen that this movie will be terrific. But like I said there is no pleasing any of you, and to those who complain about the acid affecting pred weapons... give it a break, this isn't gonna be like the comics, just like x-men was nothing like the comics... this to me is supposed to be a coming of age ritual for the preds, why would they enter there fully armed and impervious to everything? This movie will rock.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 06, 2004, 04:06:25 AM
Also, there were plenty of WAY cheezy flaws in the other films.  Predator 1- the Predator seems to take 5 seconds to cock his punches, and arnold seems to just wait for them to come. when the predator swings form tree to tree, it sort of looks like he is flying.  Predator 2- The look on the guys face when the predator was carrying him was laguhably unrealistic.  the back of the spaceship looks different when it starts to take off.   Alien- the Alien does a bunch of wierd movements, like he is dancing or something,    Aliens- it is obvious when miniatures are being used.   Alien3- HUGE plothole  Alien Ressurection- aobut everything was wrong with that film.   so the fact that all of you are bitching because of a big pred makes me sick.  just be grateful we are not getting another ressurection.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Erez on Aug 06, 2004, 04:14:01 AM
Ok, I don't know about the others but I'm not gonna complain anymore and say this is not done well until I see thw whole movie. But, guys stop saying this movie is gonna rock, be the best etc. you can't assure that either.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: WessDaMess on Aug 06, 2004, 04:39:21 AM
The video clip is awesome, I'm just counting down the days left to see the movie now.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SmaSh on Aug 06, 2004, 04:46:16 AM
Excellent clip but i wanted more Pred sound   :)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 04:46:31 AM
Good shit darkness.  Hey J, seen this yet? Hope this works for you bro.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Erez on Aug 06, 2004, 04:58:50 AM
After watching it all over again, man this is gonna look great on the big screen. People are gonna love it so much!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 05:09:00 AM
yeah man, i can't wait to see the other fight scenes too!!! the ones in the book were cool as hell, this was one of them, and it was identical to the book, hence AVP novelization, so I can imagine the other battles that I read!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: alienfan on Aug 06, 2004, 05:27:14 AM
Perhaps the predator is possessed and that's what allows his body to defy gravity and rise off of the floor without and leverage.  Maybe just Maybe this is a professional wrestling team just stopping by to put on a show for the locals.  The godzilla vs........analogy is great.  My fears are slowly being revealed as reality.  I'm sure the anime and wresting warped youth will appreciate this film.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Aug 06, 2004, 05:45:05 AM
Thanks for crediting me Darkness!!!    ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Predgirl aka Lavon on Aug 06, 2004, 05:49:13 AM
Now that was awesome fight scene.  This time I got to see it better yay.   ;D    I believe if you watch it a couple of times it looks good every time oh yeah GO AVP!!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Pisschrist on Aug 06, 2004, 06:01:31 AM
WHOA! that f**kin owned!! wasnt too sure about alien's noises though, o well who cares!!! this movie is gonna rock!!!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Predgirl aka Lavon on Aug 06, 2004, 06:07:27 AM
Well I just showed the clip to my dad and he thought it was pretty neat.  G-Dog are you talking to me just wondering.  From what my dad watched he thinks the Predator is going to win, but we already knows what happens rigth guys.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Neocharge on Aug 06, 2004, 06:21:14 AM
AHHAHAHA!! Awesome clip! 8 days till AVP!!   ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 06:30:41 AM
Yes predgirl I was, and still am. Its cool as hell to know that you and you're dad are alien and predator fans, and I am not sure about that little comment there predgirl, Iregarding who is going to win...i mean, the alien there got tossed like a rag doll. LOL!!!! but yeah, we'll see in about 1 week!!!!! When's the first time you seen alien?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: ninja pred on Aug 06, 2004, 06:33:59 AM
umm guys, which one of the preds is scar, and im getting confused, are there 3 preds in the movie or 5
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: shakermakerman on Aug 06, 2004, 06:37:22 AM
i thought the alien noises was just lke the original .. god this film will kick arse
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Somebody on Aug 06, 2004, 06:39:41 AM
That clip was rough cut though. The reason I know that, is because when you look at the official trailer, and the one with the cool rock music, you see the some scenes from this same fight, but with different angles. Paul Anderson did a very nice job indeed!!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 06:50:42 AM
After seeing this clip over and over, the alien's sound is a little different, it squeels instead. But its just this one clip, no worries whatsoever. I can't wait to see scar in action with the grid alien. This celtic/battle alien fight is mouth dropping, i can just imagine when the two main badasses go at it!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: YautjaWarrior on Aug 06, 2004, 06:52:55 AM
That was soooooo cool! The pred was whipping the alien around like a rag-doll! And if the video is too dark you can adjust the lighting and see the battle scene in much more detail.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: The Reverend on Aug 06, 2004, 06:54:27 AM
lol then after the clip finishes their is alot more aliens to take on so hes in a pickel but the duddadadaaaaaaaaaaa the other preds come in and the fight begins MUHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Pisschrist on Aug 06, 2004, 06:55:55 AM
yup, im not picking faults like other retards who say that thier "real fans"...im just saying its kinda different, but still sounds kool   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: predalien on Aug 06, 2004, 07:14:15 AM
  ;D  so f**king cool this movie aregoing to kick ass!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Whatchutalkinbot199 on Aug 06, 2004, 07:22:16 AM
It's the predator that will be tossed like that when he fights the Queen
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: thebiggestpigme on Aug 06, 2004, 07:22:27 AM
scar the more plain masked pred, and five i believe.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: superscope on Aug 06, 2004, 07:32:36 AM
Jesus christ this clip is in shit qualoty but the amount of raw power it conveyed to me over a 1 minute clip blew me away. The celtic pred is chunky and the alien is like a whippet, and when the pred picks the alien up and spins its head into the wall (not off it but right fackin through it!) u really feel its a bug going into a concrete wall!  Im sorry but im a huge fan of the aliens and pred movies and i have to say im about 90% happy with this clip, it blew me away!  And the music sounds just like the style in predator when mac opens up with blains minigun.  Pa is going to be sitting smugly rubbing his hands together on the 13th, all you bitchers and pa haters better make a move. Run and hide assholes, the rest of us better buckle our seatbelts because i think this film is going to be dynamite.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Torch on Aug 06, 2004, 07:33:59 AM
That clip was awesome, but I must say that those last few seconds when the Pred was tossing the Alien around looked LAME!  This is AVP not the WWF for crying out loud.  Oh well, it's only a 61 second clip out of a 2-hour+ movie so I shouldn't be worried.  Can't wait to see what the other fights look like and I better damn well see some Alien/Predator bloodshed!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: izzet on Aug 06, 2004, 07:37:41 AM
That was amazing.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AdamJZ on Aug 06, 2004, 08:06:54 AM
If you play AVP2, you know that the alien is carnivorious, it will eat preds, hunans, cats, etc.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Aug 06, 2004, 08:14:57 AM
Ok, like I already said, I think this clip is part of the AvP presskit and I think we can expect more vids in the near future... In most cases, presskits scenes are edited and some footage is cut out. I give my thoughts about this clip: 00:23, the camera zooms in on the Predator, and is immediately foolowed by the Alien's tail that hits the wall while the Predator dodges. I think that a cut is made on this position. 00:44, I suspect another cut here since the Alien is suddenly a few metres away from the Predator, while it was on top of it seconds before. 00:46, just a wild guess, since I doubt if a cut was made here just before the Predator dashes into the Alien.  by the way, on position 00:37 is an incredible cool shot of the Predator's wrist blades chaging their direction of the sharp sides.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cookies on Aug 06, 2004, 08:25:09 AM
personally alien mouth looks like a retarded puppet.  Those cg of alien jumping is really cool but looks way different from custome.  I mean it moves so fast then its a stupid slow creature afterwards.  Then when the pred melts his blade and looks at it, thats just a stupid shot to sure the viewers that the thing melted. This isnt a cartoon no need for cheesy camera work like that.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Hyp on Aug 06, 2004, 08:27:04 AM
The acting looks a bit disapointing   ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Terhou on Aug 06, 2004, 08:32:04 AM
My clip is still cooking...i come back once i have watched it.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Terhou on Aug 06, 2004, 08:36:13 AM
Cool clip!Were those rotating Wristblades CG?Or were they real life creation of Woodruff and Gillis?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 09:08:20 AM
cookies, you've been trashing this movie ever since I read your very first post........you're entited to your opinions and all, but damn, you can get really freaking annoying with all your damn negative comments about this long-waited movie....and you obviously don't know shit about camera work, if you notice any other fight scenes in any other movie, you'd notice that the camera doesn't stay in one angle all the time.........god....

yes, the pred didn't really move like the pred we're used to, but still damn it, you'd got to admit that was unbelieveably kick ass!

Fellow alien and predator fans: Could some one tell me again what that book is called that is coming out showing the effects of AVP? It was something like The Creature Effects of ADI or some shit like that. appreciate the help fellas.....
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Nobjockey on Aug 06, 2004, 09:25:48 AM
Hmmm, it looked okay but it wasn't exactly scary was it? Also that bit where the Predator swings the alien about looks like something out of a Godzilla movie.   ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: OberonQA on Aug 06, 2004, 09:41:03 AM
A pretty impressive clip.  I agree that it's probably from a presskit (not that this in any way, shape, or form detracts from the clip).  I like the camera work and I like the little touches (anyone notice the orange/red glow on the pred's eyes when the Alien is on top of him?)  If this is any indication of the rest of the movie, maybe the PG-13 rating isn't nearly as crippling as I thought it would be...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Bringer of Death on Aug 06, 2004, 09:51:24 AM
Even though there are some anoying little flaws in this it is still very cool to see a pred and an alien battling it out on screen.The best looking part i think is the begining when the alien divebombs the pred and they go smashing through the stone alter thing in the middle of the room, that was well done indeed.But then theres some goofy looking parts as well as brought up yesterday.All in all it was a cool little clip indeed but the only thing it could have done without is celtics girly swings at the alien with his wrist blades, man that was sad.That rotating wrist blades is a very cool introduction to the already stacked predator arsenal, i compliment anderson and co. for that little piece of genius.I just hope this is indeed a production shot and not taken out of the final cut of the film, cause if it is then expect all the preds to be this slow and bulky and have very little range of motion.They better fix the creatures sound effects to i hope, you can totaly make out that the aliens vocals are from a squeeling pig and thats not very intimidating to say the least.And G Dog i looked bake and Darkness dosnt have an actual name posted for that production book but im sure we'll hear more about it soon sonce this movie is out in 7 days yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 09:58:31 AM
Thanks Bringer, always providing me with information, awesome man, but I can't wait that long!!!!! LOL! oh well......agreed on the little parts that look iffy, like when the pred jumps back on his feet, his motion, and vocals....yes, thats about it really. I don't think all the preds are like the celtic though. Celtic predator is huge, the biggest of them all actually, too bad he is not the main predator. (size i mean)  I can't wait to see how scar fights with the grid alien and the other battles to come.......I don't think all the preds will be that limited, the novelization did have this fight just as we saw it, if the movie matches the book in regards to fights, then we have some kick ass ones to look forward to and some mostlikely not mentioned in the book!!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Predomorph on Aug 06, 2004, 10:17:49 AM
Spoiler
why didn't the celtic pred have the alien exo skeleton wrist blades?  
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Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cookies on Aug 06, 2004, 10:23:21 AM
Well kinda lame for the pred to stay there and look at his burnt blades from each side like a moron while a alien is waiting there for him.  OH I FORGOT this is pg13 and they have to show the kiddys that acid burns stuff and the pred is showing the kids what it can do.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Nobjockey on Aug 06, 2004, 10:23:31 AM
Alright alright, calm down. It's only a film you know. I still think it looks like a fight from a godzilla movie though.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cetanu on Aug 06, 2004, 10:32:51 AM
Hey G-Dog, maybe we just haven't seen his Pred - like behavior yet. I mean, c'mon now, the scene starts with Celtic already running at the Alien, it didn't even show him deploy his wrist blades. I'll betcha he was crouched with his arms out and letting out a fearsome roar just like he did at the end of Predator before he charged. That's really Predator-like to me. Also, I'll admit he looks a bit dorky when he's swinging his wrist blades, but, remember he's not trying to hit the Alien, just its tail, and having to aim at something that small doesn't mean you should swing with everything you got. If you swing real hard it could throw him off balance allowing the Alien to easily counter, this could explain why he was taking small "sissy" swings at it. Also, I hope to the Almighty that they edit out the Predator and Alien sounds. They were terrible, maybe PA just threw some animal noises in there so at least they'd be making some kind of noise as they fought. I mean, it was a freaking lion fighting a pig, that's what I woulda thought if the clip was all audio and no visual. Also, when the Alien had its freaking tail sliced off, it didn't scream in pain and writhe around as much as I think it should have. Then again, its a rough cut, and for a rough cut it was still hands down a kickass, relentlessly paced, well orchestrated, minute-long monster mash! Hope there's even more where that came from. Paul Anderson better have those noises fixed!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Somebody on Aug 06, 2004, 10:53:46 AM
Cookies , you have to understand that Paul Anderson had to work within a   70 million budget . Given this pretty small budget, Paul Anderson did a amazing job. The Pyramid, the Queen and this fight clip is awesome.  If Paul Anderson woul had  more money, it would be a different story. !!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: [ One Bullet Left ) on Aug 06, 2004, 10:56:26 AM
Looks Like Shit !!!     >:D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 06, 2004, 10:59:45 AM
AM BACK PEEPS   ;D    Somebody, for the sequel the buget will be LARGER, I wonder who will do the sequel?  Any ideas?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 11:02:19 AM
Cetanu, you make sense, we'll have to see the film, only then will all our questions be answered. And bullet, WTF? obviusly a hater.

waz up J? so you seen the clip yet or what?  and about the next AVP movie..........I'm doing it damn it!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: HellAlien on Aug 06, 2004, 11:06:07 AM
Guys for hell's sakes!!!!  stop ya bitchin already.  Get over the damn blade thing, this is not a comic based movie. So what the blades r not acid proof, but the comibistick is( just look at the pic of scar over the dead alien, you c that he used his stick and that its havent melted at all.) And the shurikens r maybe acid proof too. So quit it. Thats the way pa did it and we r gonna c why in tha movie for sure.  And to all of ya that said that this movie will be dumb, only cuz you saw 1 thing that you disliked, i say to ya F*ck you.   There is more props in that clip than cons. Just look at it, like some of ya have pointed, true we c some mistakes that r maybe prooving that this is a rough cut. So..., this is surely not the final result.   Anyway, we will soon no who was right here, the ones that said that the movie would be dumb and a bomb, or the ones that kept the confidence that it would be good even if it had some shitd in it. I mean just look at the queen, even if the movie us kinda dumb, just to c the queen bashing around around will be so great.  So get over some shits here, I c alot of shits being said here guys and all that for no or very few good reasons.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 06, 2004, 11:14:38 AM
G, I wanna say yes so badly ...    Going through Gamespy to damn complicated , I just have to go down to a local inter-net cafe to watch it, I can wait Dogman, no biggie   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 11:15:23 AM
yeah, f-k all you haters who said this movie was going to suck and is a waste of time and all that shit, like those f-king assholes over at Aint It Cool News posting their bull--it about AVP.....idiots.     >:D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 06, 2004, 11:18:10 AM
Can someone ... ANYONE give me a full description of the fight, I want to picture this thing hard.   ;D      A-N-Y-O-N-E pretty please?   :-\     :-\  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 06, 2004, 11:23:46 AM
Do both these creatures look even better of their old counterparts? ( All the Alien movies and both the predator movies)  Realistic enough?????
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 11:31:46 AM
Well, I can tell you this my friend, the Predator looks bulky due to his armor. His movements aren't as I expected, or should I say, as I am used to the Predator move (pred 1 and 2). He seems stiff but like Cetanu explained to me why that is so, he makes sense.  The alien looks great in CGI. That is well done. I personally think that they should of used the alien model from Aliens, but hey, i'm not the filmaker and what they went with doesn't look bad at all except for the fact that the alien doesn't make that distinctive sound that we are all used to. It sounds more like a pig squeeling and the pred sounds like a lion or something. Anyway, this most likely is not the final cut, so I am not worried. The actual fight sequence though is bad ass. I loved it overall, and I am pretty sure that you will too. In short- The pred look is great, movement stiff, sound weird. Alien, looks great as well, CGI is awsome, design is like that of the alien in A4 with minor tweeks, sounds weird too, moves fast, is agile. Fight sequence overall, 10+ hope this helps J.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 11:34:05 AM
Realistic enough, yes to answer your question J, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Narmack on Aug 06, 2004, 11:36:09 AM
from the pictures it looks like the pred broke the aliens neck, look like it to anyone else?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 06, 2004, 11:36:24 AM
And personally, I think less armor, like that in Pred 2 would of been best, not that the pred doesn't look good in avp.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cthulhu on Aug 06, 2004, 12:24:50 PM
Well it got f**ked up good I know that..
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Real Fan on Aug 06, 2004, 12:28:05 PM
Guys, it's so obvious tey edited that fight scene.  It will flow much nicer in the movie.  Look at the end of the creature freaturette.  It clearly shows the Celtic Pred extend his blades before he rushes the Alien.  Now look at the fight clip.  They cut out that portion.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Predfan on Aug 06, 2004, 12:52:30 PM
Couldnt c the clip but the screens look AWESOME!!! I agree about the heavy pred comment and also u gotta remeber this is a teen pred which means they arent 2 patient, agile, or particulary fast.Remember when Noguchi pissed off Shorty and he went into a rage and was just stupid and arrogant. I think celtic's fighting stile might be a lil like shorty's
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cookies on Aug 06, 2004, 01:43:22 PM
I agree on the alien should have looked like the one from aliens.  But about the sounds i thinik its ok since thats the sounds they made from aliens and that is the best alien movie. Pred is another thing.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: cannon on Aug 06, 2004, 02:15:45 PM
this clip was sick - fregin chopin aliens tail off breakin his head against the wall,  predator man handeld alien.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Orion The Hunter on Aug 06, 2004, 02:20:49 PM
Would a Predator actually decide to do just vertical strikes with his wristblades?  Anyways I enjoyed the clip but I hated the camera angles and the way they made the Predator move. Everything else was awesome.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: HellAlien on Aug 06, 2004, 03:15:20 PM
If ya guys that dont have the thing and that want to c it, just give me ya address, ill try to send it to ya.  Or ya can contact me on msn if ya have it. Its in windows format but its good quality.  Thanx to sandman for that.   So if ya guys r interested, let me know.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Predgirl aka Lavon on Aug 06, 2004, 03:29:35 PM
Well G-Dog for my comment I ment is if its like in the book.  About seeing Alien its been years since I've seen it.  I mostly like the second one and sometimes see the other two only on TV.  Also, about the Predator there are different types of Predators and maybe Aliens just like us Humans everyone is different in shape, size, and form.  The Predators are not supposed to be the same as from 1&2 .  If anyone notices even though the same actor played both parts, but the two Predators were different in their own way.  In the first one that Predator just did what he had to for the hunt.  Then when Arnie was a challenge to beat then decides to fight him to hand to hand combat like warriors do.  The second one was going for the hunt until he saw Danny's character doing a warrior's way of defeating his enemy in the begin of the film.  So that Predator studied him to figure a way to fight him for a challenge.  By this he kills the people who are close to Danny's character except for the lady who was having the baby.  Which is dishonorable for killing an innocent.  So I thought to give an example about the Predators and yes I'm more of a Pred fan than Alien.  Don't get me wrong Aliens are cool, but maybe because I use to have nightmares when I was young.  This is just my thoughts because many people are comparing these young Predators to those of 1&2 which are totally different.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: hunterkiller on Aug 06, 2004, 03:44:09 PM
You guys seriously need to stop being so firiggin' stubborn and open yourselves to new things. Its not Aliens and its not Predator. Its AVP and its going to kick so much ass there wont be any left to kick. I agree with AdamJZ. He knows what he's talkin' about.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: LyricalPharaoh on Aug 06, 2004, 04:23:45 PM
LION GROWLS and PIG SQUEALS. im CONVINCED this movie is gonna suck. this clip was porno quality. the editing is very poor, shots are too long, the transition between CG and REAL alien is awful so much excessive movement.  THE PREDATOR does not move like a PREDATOR, predators are cool headed and agile, and they should stay that way even with bulky armor.   this clip was awful, if this is some of the best that AvP has to offer it will flop.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Zach Wachob on Aug 06, 2004, 04:34:32 PM
The clip ruled. This is gonna be a great movie
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: snipes on Aug 06, 2004, 04:37:32 PM
  ;D  i dont care the pred is the best
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Mecha-hellboy on Aug 06, 2004, 05:00:23 PM
man this is'nt looking to hot. it kinda looked dodgey (bad). kinda corney. like the alien movements look cool. but the pred is kinda lame. that boy is on horse sterioids or something. i wanna know why the acid splashed on the wall but none on the actual pred. and the way he stands up looks fake. i hope this is just a press release. cause man there gunna have to edit it way better. the pred looks like its drunk when its slashing at the alien. and melting claws i thought pred would have invented acid proof metal they have been fighting the alien for thousands of years. and the way how the pred looked at his wrist blades like "that was'nt supposed to happen". i so hope they fix this sceen up and the other fights are better. you can so tell the pred costumes fake.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: The Reverend on Aug 06, 2004, 05:59:50 PM
Gboy- lol the AVP2 IS MINE MUHAHAHAHAHAH same with predator 3 and the next 3 alien movies MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA   ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     :)     :)     :)     :)     :)     :)     8)     8)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Vekin on Aug 06, 2004, 06:09:36 PM
That clip was pretty sick. Though I didn't expect the Pred to fight an alien the way he did. Overall it looked pretty good but different from the previous movies which didn't have any slow motion shots during fight scenes. On an of note I watched the HBO's first look which explains a lot about the movie but doesn't show that many new scenes.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: OberonQA on Aug 06, 2004, 06:09:47 PM
In regards to the sound quality and overall camera work, I gotta say this isn't a clip from the final movie.  The sound is in mono, which should be a very good indication of the origin of the clip.  You can't compare the sound quality in this clip to the final movie.  As for the sound effects, if the Aliens in the movie sound like squealing pigs, so be it.  It's close enough to be credible.  While I prefer the classic hissing in Aliens and Alien3, I'm not going to flame AvP for not utilizing the same sound scheme.  As for the Celtic Predator moving slowly... that goes with the size of the character.  The Celtic Predator is big.  Add to that the size/weight of the gear it's wearing and it's not inconcievable to move slowly.  If Celtic Predator moved with extreme agility and grace, it wouldn't look realistic.  The other Predators come in a variety of sizes, so I wouldn't worry too much.  In regards to the camera angles and other visual issues, this was probably a clip done specifically for a presskit versus an actual clip from the final cut of the film.  The decision to do this is probably to keep interest in the film high without divulding too much of whats going on.  I fully expect the fight scene in the final cut to utilize different camera angles than what we have here in this clip.  So keep an open mind people...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 06, 2004, 08:57:23 PM
Thanks for the info Dogman, hey people, did anyone watch the special on HBO? I don't have Sky or Cable, so tell me was it the lick? ( thats ' good ' by the way)   ;D 

Reverend good man, been having problems downloading it, I don't have the reguirements avaible, not to worry man, from the majority reactions to this clip ....   ... MINDBLOWING!!   ;D     ;D 
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: ShinCrisis on Aug 06, 2004, 09:18:28 PM
I'm pretty sure this isn't the final cut.  Looks really, bland.  But, it'll look pretty on the big screen.  >_>;  I wasn't impressed. Nor was a I disappointed.  Well, maybe a little impressed... But, I wasn't like... "Whoa!"  All the clips from this fight in the trailers were like... Better looking.  Lighting and in quality.  You know?  So, I'm not too worried about it.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: The Real Predator on Aug 06, 2004, 10:52:49 PM
ADAM_JZ- are you impervious to intelligence??? i clearly stated and caught out the imposter that claimed to be me when they said this was an alien / predator hybrid. dont you hate when people dont read things and make stupid comments- doesnt bother me too much, mainly because your a f**king idiot who no-one likes on this because you always have something to complain about. your going to california?- STAY THERE you impotent filth munger  @saint sinner- what are you talking about you judgemental freak of nature? "aka mr fibber" whats that about, ive only ever divulged information that is true from my knowing... when you really "prove me wrong" ill salute you, but your going to have a problem there....  take care all...  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat..........-real pred

by the way....AMEN HELLALIEN  keep the faith in this movie people, and if it does actually suck, THEN start your bitching. but until then, chins UP.  There are plenty of fights in the movie and the climax is quite good.  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat..................-real pred
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: LyricalPharaoh on Aug 06, 2004, 11:20:52 PM
oberon you obviously haven't seen predator 1 or 2.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: DaveAVP on Aug 06, 2004, 11:22:25 PM
Although its good to see the fight scene i agree that it looks a little rough.   It looks like we are only seeing the start and end of the scene and there will be more action in the middle with better editing.  My hopes are still very high as i have been waiting for over 10 years for this.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: C4RN4G3 on Aug 06, 2004, 11:26:11 PM
LyricalPharaoh: It's obvious you're a hater, don't judge the film by this rough cut, come'on that's just lame man.  As I said last time this clip is cool, too bad I couldn't watch the special on HBo, since I don't have HBO.  Oh and btw, The Reverend: what's the point of all those smilies?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Nidza on Aug 07, 2004, 01:11:17 AM
It looks good even if it's "beta" .  It looks that PA isnt doing those actions scenes in which you dont know whats happening - for which he is so famous about.    :)    And Lyrical : Man cant you see this is raw footage with some added sound and CGI. C Pred's moves are kinda slow,but well he is kinda big,even for a Pred    ;)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: admiral max on Aug 07, 2004, 03:30:00 AM
exellent clip ive watched it like 20 times in half an hour on repeat  the only thing i dint like waqs the alien noses and the strainge colour of the alien blood it looked orange weird   ???    my hopes are up for this film being realy good cant wait to see the alien queen but the clip was still exellent i liked it when the alien jumped onto the pred at the start of the clip   :D     8)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Darth Garuda on Aug 07, 2004, 03:33:56 AM
That Predator looks fat and heavy, the fight was useless no style at all.  If the rest of the fights are as bad as that this will be a major disappoinment.    Shit story, shit fights, PG and a crap movie.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: G-Dog on Aug 07, 2004, 04:38:12 AM
Predgirl aka Lavon:  I think you got me wrong on the predator, I didn't mean that I hoped the preds looked the same like in 1 and 2, I was just using them as exmples about the armor and movement..no big deal though. I know the preds aren't going to be the same the preds in AVP look kick ass, but what I would of like to see was the preds using different styles of armor, exampe: like the preds that appeared at the end of pred2 you know? have a little mix in there. and the aliens gave you nightmares huh? LOL! thats funny, its all good though. I can't make up my mind about the two, i like both of them the same i guess. I'm wondering if some fight scenes are with a group of preds fighting aliens at the same time, besides that pyramid flash back, I hope they didnt do a pred and alien fighiting one on one for all the battles. I know that the queen chases them along with her horde, but actual fighting like we saw in the clip....that would be great to see, 1 on 1 through out the movie.....still great, but kind of crazy if they didn't do the group thing you know?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: SigmaXcel on Aug 07, 2004, 05:48:16 AM
I have a question though. Why is that Predator called the Celtic Predator?
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Richie on Aug 07, 2004, 06:57:55 AM
Im not sure why every body is getting so pissed at this fight clip i think it was well put together. Yes, there where some wierd sound effects and some other little mistakes but other than that it was great. every one thinks it's so easy to make a fight with a man in a rubber suit playing a pred and the same for the alien and at times its CG and others the alien is controled by robotics. There are so many thing that play in a film like this and i know for a fact that 99% of you could not even do better even if you wanted to so why dont you lay off anderson and let him do his job and you do yours and just shut up and enjoy.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 07, 2004, 07:04:55 AM
Darth Garuda, don't be so DAMN ignorant?   >:D    1. The Predator is wearing FULL body armor, OBIVOUSILY he'll be bigger than before ... when a stunt man puts on a suit ( and that suit must have weighed ALOT, movement isn't going to exactly be very easy is it??  2.I haven't seen the fight so I can't judge properly or give MY opinion on it.  3.AGAIN!! AGAIN!!! and AGAIN!!!!! JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE RATED THIS MOVIE PG-13 ( 15 in UK) WHAT THE HELL MAKES YOU THINK THAT IT WON'T BE VIOLENT??? Predator blood may be excepted beacuse it isn't human blood, human deaths occur probably less. FOX possibly rated the movie PG-13 because THEY know that THIS movie would be a major draw attraction. SO JUST GET OVER IT YEAH??   >:D    I don't know whether YOU said those remarks just to piss fans off but I really can't stand people like that,  Critisms good, no matter good or bad , but just to come out with BULL like that and give no explanation or reasons why, well ...   ...^$
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: OberonQA on Aug 07, 2004, 07:29:41 AM
LyricalPharaoh - Umm... yea... keep thinking that.  I've seen Pred and Pred 2 about as many times as I've seen the Alien movies (which is quite a lot).  So don't be making assumptions about people.....
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: GeeViouS on Aug 07, 2004, 07:34:18 AM
I would like to say that for everyone that thinks the celtic predator is big and bulky. Well if you would look at the AVP 2/PH games. There were light predators, regular predators and heavy predators. Light preds were agile minus some power, the regular ones were in the middle and the heavy ones were slow and very strong. Plus we haven't seen the rest of the predator's fight so there is no telling yet.   Another thing, the whole "wrestling moves" take. How else to you expect a big guy to fight? I'm sure paul has pleanty of respect enough for the movies NOT to put in actual "wrestling" moves into this movie and not follow into the foot steps of other directors that have done that with their movie(s). Granted the predator is not human. He could have all these mystical powers and is more agile than that but its not. This is paul's take on how things should go. He didn't look at it like... Oh the predator should use wrestling moves, oh the predators should be fast even though he has so much weight on him and so forth. He looked at it from his basic judgement and knowledge from the games, comics, novels, movies and other things. He figured a big humanoid'ish-alien going against a tiger like-alien would be none other than what it is. It's like putting Arnold Schwarzenegger or some other big goon against Jackie chan or someone very agile on their feet. Come on think of the physics here people.   To those of you that I've seen comment on this stuff have got it all wrong. You just want to hate the movie cause of the director. Not cause of the movie itself which you have yet to even see.   One last thing to keep in mind. This could or could not be a finished clip. It could be from the final cut or not. So don't go dissin it before you see the actual thing.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: MoBiUG on Aug 07, 2004, 08:45:41 AM
... I'm starting to agree with the people saying this is a rough cut. If you watch the full trailer, flipped shots aside, there's actually more to the celtic alien fight. For instance, in the clip we see here, the alien scratches Celtic's mask before being kicked through a pillar. That's the only point of the fight we see them wreslte on the ground. In the trailer we see a shot of celtic, with scratched mask, rolling over so he's on top of the alien. It also looks alot cleaner with better colour balance.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Baseman on Aug 07, 2004, 09:03:14 AM
Hey Gdog, take it easy man.  Yeah, I think it could get out of control w/ too many vs. in it.  It should just be AVP, i just wanted everyone to check out the clip.  It is pretty cool!

This is part of the clip I saw at comic con. It was even more awesome when I saw it: 1)because I saw it in a somewhat of a movie theater setting, with loud music.  Awesome, 2) You guys haven't seen what lead up to this fight. It is awesome and it catches you by surprise. (spoiler) The Alien was up there in the shadows when he crept up on the other pred (the gill pred).  Then the Celtic pred drops sebastian and walks over to the alien, and that is when the scene starts.  (But now that I think about it, the alien just killed a pred, and he doesn't have any pred blood on him).  Dunno.   There is still parts cut out from this scene.  If you notice, there are no humans around.  In the scene, i saw, the humans were trying to get out as the pred and alien fought.  You can see lex, sebastian and weyland looking at the alien and pred fight.  So I do think this footage was edited for some promo stuff.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 07, 2004, 09:30:37 AM
Baseman, did you see ALL the clip, or as much as you could see? Do you know what happens after the pred. chucks the alien ?? man you have me to curious!!   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Baseman on Aug 07, 2004, 10:26:07 AM
J, I saw more of what happened before the fight than what happened afterwards.  The clip at Comic con ended with the alien being thrown by the celtic pred.  But this clip is edited b/c it is exactly one minute long.  I saw the whole 4 minute clip.  it was really cool.  If you haven't read my report, here is the link  http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~avpgalaxy/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1090870662&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1& (http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~avpgalaxy/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1090870662&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&)

Sorry, stupid link didn't work, here is just what happens before: --SPOILER-- The Celtic Predator was walking down one of the rooms in the temple heading towards the humans.  Alexa gets in his way, and he bitch slaps her out of the way, then Bishop Weyland gets in the way, bitchslaped to the other side. Then the Italian guy (I'm pretty sure he is italian) tries to hit the Celtic Pred, and the pred picks his ass up by the throat.   Alexa, now on the floor, looks around and finds a gun or some shit on the floor and starts crawling towards until until BAM, while on all fours, she gets kicked in the gut and flys smack into a wall. Another Pred in Camoflauge comes out (he was the pred that kicked her), walks up to her and holds his spear to her face. Then, slowly creeping from the background, you see something decending from behind the predator (the camouflauged pred, not the celtic pred). SHANK! The PRED gets an Alien tail right through him just like the queen did to Bishop in Aliens. The Alien (not a queen) picks up the pred w/ its tail, Turns him so they are face to face. Shot of the Preds mask (who is no longer camoflauged) and you can see a reflection of the Alien in the Mask, then a camera shot to the alien, it makes a head shot to the alien and then pred blood spills on the floor. It is a cut away shot. The Celtic pred hears some drama, turns to look, his view changes from IR to alien mode and he sees the alien killing his buddy. Drops the human and goes to f**k up the alien.   THat is when this clip starts.   However, there is some stuff cut out as I mentioned before because the humans are missing from the clip.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 07, 2004, 10:42:08 AM
Thanks for that Baseman , all we need now is wait for this movie to apear...    ... October 22nd, sigh!
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Baseman on Aug 07, 2004, 10:47:22 AM
That sucks dude.  Thank G-d Almighty, I'll watch it next week.  Hopefully it'll be cool.  I'm sure us US folks let the rest of the AVP world what we thought of the movie.  I can guarantee though, some people will love it, and some people will hate it.  We will see what all of us AVP fans think of it here in the US.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Saiyanz on Aug 07, 2004, 12:10:36 PM
I think some of u guys r takin this small scene to seriously, u gota remember the guy who played the previous preditors is dead now, so the preditor is obviously gunna look diferent in this movie! plus they maybe toying with the concept that every preditor is different and have different personalitys and fighting styles? Another thing I noticed is that in most of the scene the action is slowed a bit, maybe to give us a longer look at the preditor and alien detail and could possibly be normal speed in movie!? I do admit I dont like the preditors action in that clip, but I'd wait to see the film b4 slaggin anything off    ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Cv1207 on Aug 07, 2004, 12:29:07 PM
  >:D  hey excuse me but arent the blades and armor of the predator supposed to be acid proof?    >:D  why coudn't paul anderson make a good movie for once?!!! ud better hope that there will be no preds flying kicking an alien in slow motion in these movie! or even worse, vice versa!  we have been hoping for this movie to be made for a long long time now, and who gets to direct it? mr anderson...
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: smoky mcpot on Aug 07, 2004, 03:02:11 PM
WOW this movie looks awsome cant waight. Just one more week yes. WOW
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Eternal Alien on Aug 07, 2004, 04:58:59 PM
I'm goin' to pull a Neo,here goes:"Whoa".That clip was F****** awsome,and the way the Predator's blade flips around,very new and inventive,and to think we're still a Predator movie short,yet of course the clip is not going to hava the quality of the movies yet but to me was good enough,the Alienthough like I said the sound is nasty on the net,sounds way better than in ALIEN RESURRECTION.For those who were protesting on the melting of the blades,think about this,these Preds are young,and the are there for their coming of age rituals if they survive at any cost then they become real hunters and get their upgraded weaponry,also in one of the trailers I saw a Pred with an Alien tail as a spear tip,I can't wait to see the movie,and though I hate Amalgamated Dynamics for destroying the Alien's look on this clip it looks half desent.Still I'm a bit nerveous,but can wait to see movie,and in reality for all the years of waitin' it's better than nothing....for the time being.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Darth Garuda on Aug 08, 2004, 01:36:06 AM
PG13 is 12A in the UK.  I am not ignorant.  I have seen Mortal Kombat before and that fight stinks of it.  The spinning the Alien bit was a ripp off of the the fight at the end of Blade II.  It doesn't have any of the style that the previous movies had.  Aliens have never brawled before, and this is how I imagined they'd do it.  Being thrown through walls?  The Alien crush like an egg shell in Aliens, why is this such a hardass.  The Predator is really small, chubby and that doesn't fight with there lifestyle.  They're suppose to be uninhibited so they have freedom to do aerobics we couldn't.  It wasn't very spectacular, I was expecting a giant fight, the one that has been hyped.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 08, 2004, 04:57:08 AM
Well, thats fair enough Darth Garuda, if I sounded to steamed before then I aplogize, I just get feed up of people countlessily sending messages on this board and then trashing a movie BEFORE they'd seen it.  As mentioned before, I haven't seen the fight clip but from what most of the people say about it was quite decent PLUS what we saw WASN'T the final version, so will all see the final edition and what it looks and plays like.  With all the armor on AND costume weight the actor had to endure inside am suprised he was able to do HALF of the stuff that was required of him to do, could you picture him doing a backward flip in mid air with all that on??? pain city!  The Alien has always been quite strong. PA wanted to push the level of abilities required from these two creatures, their strengths. The Alien's armor has always been reowned for its toughness so maybe PA wanted to high light it to us in this way, its protective like casing.  That fight was kind of the introduction to what will all expect, once your in the cinema am sure all your negativeness torwards THAT clip will fade.   8)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: scar pred on Aug 08, 2004, 06:06:31 AM
mybe the part when the predator cuts of the tail the starts to fight with him on the floor which is in the trailer of them turn n each other
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: scar pred on Aug 08, 2004, 06:10:12 AM
you can see max in the fight in the net just after the alien jumps on the predator.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Fallen_Guard on Aug 08, 2004, 07:01:37 AM
holy.. freekin.. shit..    ???  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Dude on Aug 08, 2004, 07:40:10 AM
Celtic Predator is one Bad ass Mother. He looks So friggin Bad ass.   >:D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: superalex on Aug 08, 2004, 11:19:47 AM
With regards to the predators lack of mobility why didnt the special effects people find a tall bloke that actually had a bodybuilders physique instead of using a lanky skinny basketball player and making him wear restrictive rubber muscles plus plates of separate armour
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Nidza on Aug 08, 2004, 11:44:55 AM
Hm,just watched the fight in full screen, and,damn, it looks completely different,and than it really looked like on of those PA fast changing scenes in which you dont know whats happening.  It looked that way to me.
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: The Reverend on Aug 08, 2004, 03:53:04 PM
MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I HAVE SEEN THE QUEEN, SHE IS SWEET    ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D    Hay J stop fighting with every one else, they are wrong they know it and we all know it.    :)     :)     :)     :)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 09, 2004, 12:03:05 AM
  8)   no fighting from my end Reverend, hopefully soon will see some footage ourselves of some of these clips in the UK, I suppose will start seeing more snd more shots around September time, ( am just going to look out for film review programmes that will show bits here and there)    :)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: AngryHobo on Aug 09, 2004, 11:17:42 AM
Here is an idea of mine...     The melting wristblade issue, and the bitching surrounding it is getting a little old. If the blooded Preds wanted to send the "teen" Predators on a rites ceremony, would they make the hunt incredibly easy? I think that the Pred weapons were made so that "teen" Preds would have to adapt to the moment and use tactical and hunter intuition to defeat their foes. This method of "tough love" would be an excellent way to ensure not only the Pred's deservance of manhood but also as a method to make very effective and powerful hunters.   Just a thought tho...   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: J on Aug 09, 2004, 11:48:29 AM
Exactly AngryHobo, exactly   ;D       Its good to see people really understanding the concepts of this movie, making their own minds on how the film is and creates, ITS GREAT    :)  
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: OberonQA on Aug 09, 2004, 01:14:58 PM
I completely agree with this idea....
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Puff on Aug 10, 2004, 06:34:36 AM
Did anyone else catch the elephant sound that played when the alien was thrown through the wall? It made this crappy clip of this likely just as crappy movie hilarious. For the rest of the clip I kept imagening a american wrestler fighting a elephant in  a porn movie. That porn movie would probably be alot better than this movie will be
Title: Re: Alien/Predator Fight Sequence
Post by: Shadow on Aug 10, 2004, 11:58:05 PM
it was cool, but the pred could be more agile..not so bulky. but it was cool