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Title: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Mar 10, 2009, 08:01:50 PM
PREDATOR #1 

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Written by John Arcudi, art by Javier Saltares, cover by Raymond Swanland.

The world's attention is focused painfully on a brutal third world Civil War, a merciless sectarian conflict sparing neither soldier nor civilian, grandmother nor child. But amidst the terror and carnage, where great nations and powerful interests jockey for position and advantage, another blood feud rages in the shadows, one no more humane but decidedly less human. Two warring tribes from the stars have chosen Earth's killing fields as their arena, with each clan sworn to eradicate the other . . . and all who stand between them. Each is the other's prey, each the other's Predator.

* Dark Horse celebrates twenty years of Predator comics!

* All previously published Dark Horse Predator series are now back in print in the successful Predator Omnibus and Aliens vs. Predator Omnibus program.

Hunt or be hunted!


32 pages $3.50, in stores on June 24.

http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-108/Predator-1




Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2009, 08:31:56 PM
Source? And here's some art by Saltares:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Corpral_Hicks/sneek_peek_by_saltares.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Corpral_Hicks/sneek_peek_2_by_saltares.jpg

Can someone resize the cover? 300 width? I'm stuck with my laptop 'till tomorrow night and I don't wanna wait 'till then to post this.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Mar 10, 2009, 08:37:04 PM
here ya go:

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http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0903/10/darkhorsejune.htm

No Aliens #2 for June either.  Looks like the new ALIENS/Predator titles are in an alternating bi-monthly schedule.

Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: The Necronoir on Mar 11, 2009, 12:42:02 AM
That's why we haven't had any Predator comics for ten years, they've been masquerading as Eldar the entire time... led by an Uruk-hai.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: XenoVC on Mar 11, 2009, 12:56:23 AM
Anyone else feel this will be shit?

Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Predator755 on Mar 11, 2009, 01:02:45 AM
Quote from: XenoVC on Mar 11, 2009, 12:56:23 AM
Anyone else feel this will be shit?



>.> <.< ... I'm often overly optimistic.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Mar 11, 2009, 01:21:17 AM
Quote from: XenoVC on Mar 11, 2009, 12:56:23 AM
Anyone else feel this will be shit?

Ya beat me to it lol....well id still have a read of it, you never know it could turn out to be interesting.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: cloverfan98 on Mar 11, 2009, 02:24:01 AM
Those Preds look like the Orcs from The Lord of The Rings.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Cellien on Mar 11, 2009, 02:48:04 AM
Great art style, but that don't look like no Pred...  More like a Brute from Halo.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 11, 2009, 04:39:26 AM
Quote from: Cellien on Mar 11, 2009, 02:48:04 AM
Great art style, but that don't look like no Pred...  More like a Brute from Halo.
Yeah, and the other Predators' armor reminds me of Elite armor from Halo, too.

I dunno, the art looks.... interesting, to say the least. I'll give it a shot. :)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 11, 2009, 09:47:54 AM
I don't mind the leader Predator. He has that regal/tribal feel to him which suits. But the rest...bah. What we gotta bare in mind is that the art on the cover doesn't reflect the interior. It isn't the same artists like for Aliens.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Visceral_Mass on Mar 11, 2009, 10:25:45 AM
Those two Predator in the foreground look like they are wearing Tau Firewarrior armor to me. Even the gun looks Tau.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 11, 2009, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: Visceral_Mass on Mar 11, 2009, 10:25:45 AM
Those two Predator in the foreground look like they are wearing Tau Firewarrior armor to me. Even the gun looks Tau.
Haha, glad I'm not the only one who got that vibe, too.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Predator755 on Mar 11, 2009, 05:21:19 PM
Ditto. That or Eldar. :P
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Mar 11, 2009, 07:17:49 PM
interesting...
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Briar Wolf on Mar 11, 2009, 08:04:51 PM
I'm wondering if they'll continue as either Yautja or Hish (possibly the latter, considering it's the newest incarnation) or if they'll present yet another origin we'll have to deal with.  After all, from the description it seems to be delving much more into Predators as an entire race as opposed to just small hunting parties, so it seems to me like one of these is to be expected.

Also, I'm curious to see if the supposed Predator remake (if it does indeed happen) is going to follow this same design scheme or try and keep it like the original movie. 

As far as I'm concerned, any sort of continuity is dead and I'm just going with the flow.  So, whatever they make them into is whatever they make them into.  *shrug*
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: X-Rex on Mar 11, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 11, 2009, 04:39:26 AM
Quote from: Cellien on Mar 11, 2009, 02:48:04 AM
Great art style, but that don't look like no Pred...  More like a Brute from Halo.
Yeah, and the other Predators' armor reminds me of Elite armor from Halo, too.
Funny, as I saw the pic, I thought the exact same thing.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 11, 2009, 11:05:41 PM
Yautja were never in the comic. The only place to ever use the name/culture was the novels.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Friendly Wise on Mar 11, 2009, 11:32:51 PM
The story sounds interesting, but why Earth? I think it would be a lot more realistic if the war took place on some off set planet. Plus, I would have to agree, the armor seems out of place even though the story seems to be more military based. Still the military units for the predators in AvP: Extinction looked a lot more interesting than the ones displayed in this art work.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: RakaiThwei on Mar 12, 2009, 12:17:52 AM
......My faith in Dark Horse has dwindled TREMENDOUSLY. The Yautja (got an issue with me using the word when refering to the movies and novel? Deal with it) obviously don't look like they should as far as cotinuity goes .

As many others have said, they look way too much like Uruk-hai and Eldars. We've already have those in Batman and Superman vs Alien and Predator-- and now we're getting them again in the new Predator comics.

Dark Horse, just stick with the film appearance types... J.R.R. Tolkein didn't make the Predator. Winston did...

And if they go with the Hish mythos in the comics... well... I blame John Shirely...

I'm done here.

-Rakai
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Deathbearer on Mar 12, 2009, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 11, 2009, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: Visceral_Mass on Mar 11, 2009, 10:25:45 AM
Those two Predator in the foreground look like they are wearing Tau Firewarrior armor to me. Even the gun looks Tau.
Haha, glad I'm not the only one who got that vibe, too.
yeah I'm feelin' that too. for a minute I was like "Is that a f**king crossover!?"
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 12, 2009, 01:20:58 AM
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"This! Is! Sparta!"
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 12, 2009, 08:40:19 AM
Like I said before, the cover wont reflect the internal art. They hardly ever do. They're different artists. Wait and see what the internal stuff looks like.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Corpral_Hicks/sneek_peek_by_saltares.jpg

There's your Hish design. As for being on Earth, makes sense. Until AvP, all the Predator comics were on Earth and have continued to be. Outside the AvP comics and novels, and Forever Midnight and Flesh and Blood, all the others have been about the Hish on Earth.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 12, 2009, 10:17:44 AM
Well to be fair, the old comics weren't about the "Hish" any moreso than they were about the "Yautja".
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: RakaiThwei on Mar 12, 2009, 03:37:22 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 12, 2009, 10:17:44 AM
Well to be fair, the old comics weren't about the "Hish" any moreso than they were about the "Yautja".

And considering that the AvP movies took major Yautja elements from the AvP comics and Novels by Perry, I'd say that Yautja are canon-- give or take what you will. The AvP films were meant to unit both the Predator and Alien movies in a single timeline and cotinuity, and seeing as that they are canon to both franchises, they do just that.

What astounds me is that alot of people still consider both the Alien and Predator films to be seperate universes when AvP basically ties them together. If you want to talk about an AvP/A-P Multiverse where things are different, be my guest.

And I'll take your word for it, Hicks... I'll keep an eye out on the new comics...

It's just that since Dark Horse has been pissing over my childhood, I've been less than enthusiastic.

-Rakai
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 12, 2009, 05:02:31 PM
QuoteI'd say that Yautja are canon-- give or take what you will.
Well technically according to FOX, the Hish stuff is canon as well. There's ways to make them both work together, but for now they're just fan-made theories.

QuoteThe AvP films were meant to unit both the Predator and Alien movies in a single timeline and cotinuity, and seeing as that they are canon to both franchises, they do just that.
Well it's all been united as a single timeline and continuity for over a decade - the comics and novels united them with myriad crossovers and references years ago. :)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Mar 12, 2009, 07:41:34 PM
As far as I'm concerned, the Yautja and Hish are like ridged and non-ridged Klingons. They're both Predators, they allow for different kinds of stories to be told, and the Hish were an evolution (now notice I didn't say logical evolution) of the concept.

As to whether either will feature into this series, I have to say I really don't care. I'm enough of a fanboy that I'll buy it whether its good or not, I'm just gonna come on here and bitch about it if it sucks.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 12, 2009, 08:09:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Mar 12, 2009, 07:41:34 PM
As far as I'm concerned, the Yautja and Hish are like ridged and non-ridged Klingons. They're both Predators, they allow for different kinds of stories to be told, and the Hish were an evolution (now notice I didn't say logical evolution) of the concept.
I'm right there with you on that one. I'm willing to accept that the Hish are a genetic/societal offshoot of Predators as we know them from the movies. I don't see why the Yautja and Hish can't coexist.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Predator755 on Mar 12, 2009, 08:28:56 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 12, 2009, 08:09:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Mar 12, 2009, 07:41:34 PM
As far as I'm concerned, the Yautja and Hish are like ridged and non-ridged Klingons. They're both Predators, they allow for different kinds of stories to be told, and the Hish were an evolution (now notice I didn't say logical evolution) of the concept.
I'm right there with you on that one. I'm willing to accept that the Hish are a genetic/societal offshoot of Predators as we know them from the movies. I don't see why the Yautja and Hish can't coexist.

That makes sense to me... Saves the trouble of super-fans, like me, from bickering back and forth which is the right one and which isn't. While I still don't like the Hish concept, I'm willing to tolerate it if it means leaving out unneeded arguing.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 12, 2009, 09:49:59 PM
It just seems like the really obvious answer, too. One of them doesn't have to be "right" and completely erase the other, they can both exist. There have been similar societal/genetic ofshoots among various Star Wars alien species (Duros and Nemoidians, to name a pair off the top of my head. I think the Wroonians and Pantorans are another), I don't see why Predators can't have the same thing.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Predator755 on Mar 12, 2009, 10:03:36 PM
I suppose that some people just want it to be one way or the other. Some people don't like knew stuff. I remember how when I first read Forever Midnight and such and was furious over the Hish idea. Then I calmed down, read it again, although I'll admit I didn't read the parts from the Hish point of view, and realized that it was actually a very well written book. Shirely didn't at all waste the potential of the jungle setting on another planet. On the contrary, he utilized it to its maximum potential and produced a truly great story.
But now I'm a bit more tolerant and understanding and can accept Hish into the AvP universe, even if I still don't like them.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Mar 13, 2009, 07:35:58 AM
Man this comic better have some tight predator on predator action
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Mar 13, 2009, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: happypred on Mar 13, 2009, 07:35:58 AM
Man this comic better have some tight predator on predator action

boy, you nasty.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Vulhala on Mar 13, 2009, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: Spaghetti on Mar 13, 2009, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: happypred on Mar 13, 2009, 07:35:58 AM
Man this comic better have some tight predator on predator action

boy, you nasty.

LMFAO!!
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Predator755 on Mar 13, 2009, 05:17:54 PM
Word twisting aside, I myself am actually hoping to see some new weaponry, as usual. Specifically, rifles! Thats one of the things that makes AvP War part 1 stand out to me. Plasma rifle wielding Predators! What more could you ask for?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Vanski on Mar 13, 2009, 09:15:02 PM
I can't think anything but Warhammer 40k, when i look at the cover.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Mar 13, 2009, 09:41:20 PM
The cover to me feels like the kind of force the preds would send in to clear out an infested area that they don't want to completely destroy. Although in EU terms, you'd think if they wanted to do that, they could find some way to harvest and reproduce the black mold from Labyrinth. Why they would wage a war on earth of all places, and have it be land-based, rather than nuke-based...well, maybe they'll come up with a reasonable explanation come June. Until then, I'm holding judgement.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 13, 2009, 10:16:51 PM
No honor in doing a nuke-based war. :)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Predator755 on Mar 13, 2009, 10:19:04 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 13, 2009, 10:16:51 PM
No honor in doing a nuke-based war. :)

He's got a point. Wheres the fun in revenge if you just watch an explosion from orbit when you could just gut the suckers yourself?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Mar 14, 2009, 01:01:09 AM
I hope they come up with really creative ideas for "military" predators

I mean come on, Dark Horse must have access to some fantastically talented artists who can come up with something more than rehashes of Halo designs
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: The One and Only on Mar 14, 2009, 04:20:51 PM
I was always of the thinking that HALO was ripping off Predator first, and turnabout is fairplay. ;D
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 14, 2009, 07:47:48 PM
Well it's a known fact that the Covenant Elites (both design and personality) were inspired by the Predator. :)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Mar 15, 2009, 05:41:09 AM
I'd say the elites are more polished and less savage
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Mar 15, 2009, 06:58:32 AM
Yeah, I said that the first time I played Halo. The look of the marines was totally ripped off of aliens, the flood were standins for the xenos and the covenant were a video game bad guy version of the preds, complete with honorable culture and high level of mysticism. Starcraft did the same thing, replacing the bugs with the zerg and the preds with the protoss. I mean, sure, there were differences in both cases, it wasn't complete ripoffs, but they definitely know their roots. Half the human units in starcraft even quote aliens.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Commander Griker on Mar 15, 2009, 09:57:55 AM
This is were the series is heading

Acacyn - Alien VS Clone II - Vengeance - Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj8ZV4_3oxI&feature=recommended
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 15, 2009, 05:59:18 PM
What does that have to do with the Predator comic series?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: fluxcap on Mar 17, 2009, 04:50:54 PM
Love the lead Predator on the cover, but that interior artwork is just disappointing. Has too much of a super-hero feel to it. Guess I'm just very nitpicky when it comes to comic art.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Mar 18, 2009, 12:24:45 AM
I want the art to be like my signature :)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 18, 2009, 01:12:22 PM
Quote from: fluxcap on Mar 17, 2009, 04:50:54 PM
Love the lead Predator on the cover, but that interior artwork is just disappointing. Has too much of a super-hero feel to it. Guess I'm just very nitpicky when it comes to comic art.

Super-hero? I had a manga feeling which I think suits fantastically.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Mar 19, 2009, 12:06:57 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 18, 2009, 01:12:22 PM
Quote from: fluxcap on Mar 17, 2009, 04:50:54 PM
Love the lead Predator on the cover, but that interior artwork is just disappointing. Has too much of a super-hero feel to it. Guess I'm just very nitpicky when it comes to comic art.

Super-hero? I had a manga feeling which I think suits fantastically.

I think manga is fantastically lame for predator

it suits aliens more :) . . . yeah right
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: fluxcap on Mar 19, 2009, 03:15:44 AM
I feel its the type of art that better suits a marvel/dc comic. Spider-Man could swing by in a panel and it wouldn't feel out of place. That artist has been around for years, and I think his style is representative of 90s era comic art. In the end I honestly don't know what I'm looking for in the interior art, just not that.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: The One and Only on Mar 19, 2009, 04:37:17 AM
Javier Saltares was the artist on the Aliens Vs. Predator miniseries, Deul, and did a damn fine job on that one,which followed up the first AVP mini-series event. So this bloke  doesn't have a problem with it.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 19, 2009, 08:53:45 AM
Quote from: happypred on Mar 19, 2009, 12:06:57 AM
I think manga is fantastically lame for predator

it suits aliens more :) . . . yeah right

Think about it without being a cock to me just 'cause I prefer Aliens. Predator is a super violent franchise where the violence is glorified and stylized. So is manga. I've got a couple of collected omnibuses of Battle Royal and read...Bleach, I think it was. And that sort of stylized Manga is absolutely amazing for Predator.

As for 90s era stuff...well, it sucks TBH. I'm not fond of the old Predator comics because to be quite frank, the artwork sucks some series ass. Same for about half of the Aliens comics. It's when they weren't doing the generic art styles that the series stood out:

Nightmare Asylum, Destroying Angels, Hell and Hot Water, 1718.

The rest is just hideous. Big Game, Cold War, Race War, Bloody Sands of Time. All horribly drawn and unpleasent on the eyes. Give me some beautiful stylized artwork that suits the Predator to a tee. Same as how dark and gritting (Destroying Angels) suits the Aliens.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: larq2525 on Mar 19, 2009, 09:58:41 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 19, 2009, 08:53:45 AM
The rest is just hideous. Big Game, Cold War, Race War, Bloody Sands of Time. All horribly drawn and unpleasent on the eyes.

That's pretty harsh.  While the art styles of some of those books may not have fit Predator perfectly, I'd be hard pressed to say that any of those series were "horribly drawn".  Just because someone's artwork isn't as eye-grabbing as that of say Den Beauvis or Doug Wheatly doesn't mean that their art is bad.

On the topic of artwork which isn't the norm, does anyone have any opinions on the art in Predator: Homeworld or Predator: Hell Come A Walkin'?  I'm a big fan of both Toby Cypress and Dean Ormston, who drew those titles.  A neat coincidence is that Cypress actually became one of my teachers when I was attending the Joe Kubert School a few years ago.

On a somewhat related topic, as far as Alien books are concerned, my favorite artists from those were probably Richard Corben on Aliens: Alchemy, Killian Plunkett on Aliens: Labyrinth, and Frank Teran on the shorter segment in that Aliens special that has an alien wearing a suit on the cover.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Predator755 on Mar 20, 2009, 04:16:06 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 19, 2009, 08:53:45 AM
Quote from: happypred on Mar 19, 2009, 12:06:57 AM
I think manga is fantastically lame for predator

it suits aliens more :) . . . yeah right

Think about it without being a cock to me just 'cause I prefer Aliens. Predator is a super violent franchise where the violence is glorified and stylized. So is manga. I've got a couple of collected omnibuses of Battle Royal and read...Bleach, I think it was. And that sort of stylized Manga is absolutely amazing for Predator.

As for 90s era stuff...well, it sucks TBH. I'm not fond of the old Predator comics because to be quite frank, the artwork sucks some series ass. Same for about half of the Aliens comics. It's when they weren't doing the generic art styles that the series stood out:

Nightmare Asylum, Destroying Angels, Hell and Hot Water, 1718.

The rest is just hideous. Big Game, Cold War, Race War, Bloody Sands of Time. All horribly drawn and unpleasent on the eyes. Give me some beautiful stylized artwork that suits the Predator to a tee. Same as how dark and gritting (Destroying Angels) suits the Aliens.

I sorta understand what he's saying. I really enjoyed the art in some of those other comics, while I personally couldn't stand the art from Big Game and Predator Homeworld. I actually really liked the stuff from Bad Blood and Labrynth. Two of my favs! Now, I haven't read a whole lot of magna. Just a big of DBZ while in the bookstore, but I don't think it would be a bad way to go. I say branch out!
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Mar 20, 2009, 05:05:42 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 19, 2009, 08:53:45 AM
Quote from: happypred on Mar 19, 2009, 12:06:57 AM
I think manga is fantastically lame for predator

it suits aliens more :) . . . yeah right

Think about it without being a cock to me just 'cause I prefer Aliens. Predator is a super violent franchise where the violence is glorified and stylized. So is manga. I've got a couple of collected omnibuses of Battle Royal and read...Bleach, I think it was. And that sort of stylized Manga is absolutely amazing for Predator.

As for 90s era stuff...well, it sucks TBH. I'm not fond of the old Predator comics because to be quite frank, the artwork sucks some series ass. Same for about half of the Aliens comics. It's when they weren't doing the generic art styles that the series stood out:

Nightmare Asylum, Destroying Angels, Hell and Hot Water, 1718.

The rest is just hideous. Big Game, Cold War, Race War, Bloody Sands of Time. All horribly drawn and unpleasent on the eyes. Give me some beautiful stylized artwork that suits the Predator to a tee. Same as how dark and gritting (Destroying Angels) suits the Aliens.

Concrete Jungle had great art that suited the Predator franchise.

As for your preference for Aliens, it is what it is, but it leads you to say things that I don't agree with.

For instance you say manga suits the Predator franchise, but I have a strong feeling you would never thrust manga upon the Alien franchise since most manga borders on the cartoonish. You would probably attribute this to some difference you perceive in the franchises when both are violent (whether one glorifies it while the other does not is a point of debate) ... whatever the case, you don't take the Predator franchise as seriously as the Alien franchise so  don't be surprised if I challenge your opinions

(and I have no idea what you mean when you say Predator violence is "stylised")
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Tarak'ha on Mar 21, 2009, 04:49:13 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 12, 2009, 10:17:44 AM
Well to be fair, the old comics weren't about the "Hish" any moreso than they were about the "Yautja".

Much agreed.  I highly doubt that the Yautja or Hish are exclusively seen in anything outside their novels.  As for the Yautja, their creation was Perry's; he just pasted some cultural shwag onto the Predators seen in the AVP comics.  Both the comic series and the novel are fundamentally different in their own medium.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 21, 2009, 06:09:23 PM
Well due to retroactive continuity, both the Yautja and Hish are pretty much in place in other sources, even if they're not outright stated. Which is in each source is pretty much up to the reader to decide/argue about. :P
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Tarak'ha on Mar 21, 2009, 08:23:20 PM
To each his own, of course.  Stating that an opinion is just that, and one's own interpretation is not counted as fact.

Unlike the countless sites out there making up their own 'facts' for the sake of a bigger website.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 21, 2009, 08:55:06 PM
Well I was just pointing out that even though the comics and movies don't explicitly reference the Hish or Yautja, that one could interpret those other sources as still using the material because of retroactive continuity. :) In the same way that in 'Alien', all those eggs came from an Alien Queen, even if we didn't see an Alien Queen (and the concept didn't even exist) until the second movie.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Mar 29, 2009, 02:40:58 AM
does anyone know whether the new Predator is set in past, present, or future (i'm guessing the latter two are more likely)? 
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 30, 2009, 12:44:26 PM
I'm guessing near future.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: The One and Only on Apr 12, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Interview with PREDATOR writer John Arcudi about the doings a transpiring in the upcoming PREDATOR mini-series.http://www.comicmonsters.com/features-1012-John_Arcudi_talks_PREDATOR.html (http://www.comicmonsters.com/features-1012-John_Arcudi_talks_PREDATOR.html)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on May 08, 2009, 02:06:31 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg14.imageshack.us%2Fimg14%2F2048%2Fpredator2p.jpg&hash=6e9cc5fa50037f629c9dc6cd74f41aeb2ec9e0e6) (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg17.imageshack.us%2Fimg17%2F3813%2Fpredator2b.jpg&hash=e7bb374c55512dbfdd935384c40db5e4a376f3e0)

PREDATOR #2 (of 4)

John Arcudi (W), Javier Saltares (A), Andrew Elder (C), and Raymond Swanland (Cover)
On sale Aug 26
FC, 40 pages
$3.50
Miniseries

Where there is armed conflict, there is money to be made. And in the midst of a third-world civil war, the military contractors of Graham Directive Security have sold their skills to shield their corporate clients from the sectarian violence tearing a country apart. But the GDS guns-for-hire soon discover that they are in the midst of not one, but two civil wars, one of extraterrestrial origin. And while the brutality and ruthlessness of mankind is well documented, it is nothing compared to the heartless savagery exhibited by the star-spawned Predators, especially when warring clans of the alien terrors are each sworn to wipe the other from existence.

The hunt is on as Predator returns to comics with a vengeance in a lethal new series written by John Arcudi (Aliens, B.P.R.D.) and illustrated by Javier Saltares (Ghost Rider).


Celebrating the 20th anniversary of the first Dark Horse Predator series.

Featured in Free Comic Book Day!


http://www.comicscontinuum.com/
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 08, 2009, 10:02:00 AM
Pulse rifle in the background.  :)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: dachande89 on May 08, 2009, 03:16:05 PM
wow that pic is amazing
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on May 08, 2009, 04:26:11 PM
they need to get the guy doing the covers to do some future interior art for some alien and pred comics.

goddamn he's good
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on May 09, 2009, 04:55:24 PM
I am a bit disappointed in the art for the new A/P series, it looks like it hasn't changed since Xenogenesis, too anime-ish for my taste

I know Dark Horse is reaching out to a new generation, but I still miss the more realistic styles from the 90's comics
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on May 12, 2009, 02:11:48 AM
Idk, I'm absolutely loving what I've seen of the Aliens series. I'm on the fence about the portrayal of the Preds so far, but you have to try new things, otherwise the franchise grows stagnant. I'm reserving judgment till I actually see the finished book.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Jun 04, 2009, 02:21:51 AM
3-page preview is up:

http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/16-108?page=0


Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: The One and Only on Jun 04, 2009, 03:32:20 AM
Looks nice, other than the lack of the title character, but it's only three pages, so I wasn't really surprised.   

The covers, by Raymond Swanland, are truly a sight to behold. This man should be doing movie posters. In this day and age the studios are wee bit too into photoshopped images of the actors. Gone are the days of some truly cool images I'd see on the VHS boxes.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jun 04, 2009, 04:35:26 PM
The first cover was merely alright, imo. It was just too different for me to really appreciate.

This second cover, however...God damn...Its a bit early to start calling it my favorite Pred painting, but...God damn...
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Jun 05, 2009, 02:03:11 AM
Gotta say after reading the predator preview in the free comic book... the art is mediocre at best.

The cover art outshines the interior so much it seems illegal to trick people so.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Jun 05, 2009, 06:07:30 PM
MTV Spash page has more preview pages posted:

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/06/05/preview-get-your-first-look-at-predator-1-from-dark-horse-comics/#more-16016

Good to see these comics getting more online press!

Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Jun 07, 2009, 10:03:05 AM
The story seems okay, but I don't like Predators sporting Halo paraphernalia.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: magical_boy on Jun 07, 2009, 12:35:13 PM
ya, im not gettin that savage tribal feel from the art
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 11, 2009, 09:07:16 AM
Well we haven't seen the other side yet. They don't all have to follow this tribal thing.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Ijapa on Jun 13, 2009, 04:58:50 PM
 The boss Predator on the cover reminds me of a particularly prickly shogun.

Anywho, I agree with Hicks. They're trying to expand the Predator's Universe. Does humanity have the same culture across the globe? Same language? Same technology? Now, throw some interstellar distance in there.

Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Space Disc Jockey on Jun 18, 2009, 08:00:07 PM
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-108/Predator-1 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-108/Predator-1)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.darkhorse.com%2Fcovers%2F400%2F16%2F16108.jpg&hash=20622fba86f65c8a03ccf1a874add1f0d9ce9c3f)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Jun 18, 2009, 08:36:17 PM
Quote from: Space Disc Jockey on Jun 18, 2009, 08:00:07 PM
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-108/Predator-1 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-108/Predator-1)

http://images.darkhorse.com/covers/400/16/16108.jpg

Looks awesome with the final logos added in.     8)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2009, 11:37:58 AM
That it does.  ;D Can't wait to finally get it.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: PREDATOR1125 on Jun 19, 2009, 07:29:10 PM
this looks pretty sweet
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Jun 19, 2009, 08:02:26 PM
wonder if it's getting a variant cover next week.... ???
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jun 20, 2009, 01:42:13 PM
More than likely is. Although this guys' art would be harder to simply recolor than was Mr. Howards', so you never know.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jun 25, 2009, 02:14:48 AM
Just read the first issue. It was pretty good. Wasn't spectacular, but it was good. I'm still shaky about Saltares' art. Like most first issues these days, a bit too much setup. There is a total of five pages with the Preddies on it, which is more than Aliens could say lol.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Space Disc Jockey on Jun 25, 2009, 09:52:32 PM
http://comics.ign.com/articles/998/998102p1.html (http://comics.ign.com/articles/998/998102p1.html)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: XenoVC on Jun 26, 2009, 02:35:50 AM
No offense to the artist,but from what i've seen from him in the Alien/Predator free comic book day,his Predators just aren't doing it for me at all.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Jun 26, 2009, 02:28:16 PM
Yeah jsut finished reading the first issue now. The Predators do look alittle dodgy but overall not to bad so far  :)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Jun 27, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
His predator in the free comic book day issue was very poor, but after seeing the one helmet-less pred in the first issue, I think he's straightened up his act a bit.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: XenoVC on Jun 27, 2009, 08:15:01 PM
Saw the normal Pred in the first issue,didn't look nearly as bad.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 11, 2009, 09:03:02 AM
http://www.darkhorse.com/Features/Making-of-a-Comic/1083/Making-of-a-Comic-Predator-1?qt=dhnl129_donny_unwrappedj
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Jul 14, 2009, 07:23:36 AM
not bad

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv505%2Fhappy007hippo%2F2-2.jpg&hash=75f31cf773c7b860f4739946c61f4713475ce0fd)

Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 14, 2009, 11:56:56 AM
http://www.comixtreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48243
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=user_review&id=1149
http://weeklycomicbookreview.com/2009/06/28/predator-1-capsule-review/

I'm noticing a trend. People don't seem to realise they're reviewing a single issue.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Jul 14, 2009, 12:00:08 PM
I think some reviews Ive already read are unfair, at least they should wait until further issues of the comic before bestowing judgement.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Jul 14, 2009, 08:44:33 PM
PREDATOR #3 (of 4)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg259.imageshack.us%2Fimg259%2F9224%2Fpredator3.jpg&hash=dba994963378cb2f9f7ac4cfe21afedf0516a504)


John Arcudi (W), Javier Saltares (A), Wes Dzioba (C), and Raymond Swanland (Cover)
On sale Oct 28
FC, 40 pages
$3.50
Miniseries


While the guns-for-hire of Graham Directive Security knew they were entering a third-world war zone when they signed on, they never bargained for stumbling into the middle of an interplanetary blood feud. After barely surviving a brutal firefight with a squad of Predator soldiers, Thorpe and Briggs hightail it to the GDS compound only to find their base under siege by the offworld marauders. Thorpe and his crew haven't got a prayer of survival--that is, they wouldn't if they didn't have the most unlikely ally in the universe.

- Blood is in the air as Predator returns to comics with extreme prejudice in a deadly new series written by John Arcudi (Aliens, B.P.R.D.) and illustrated by Javier Saltares (Ghost Rider).

- Celebrating the 20th anniversary of the first Dark Horse Predator series.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: XenoVC on Jul 14, 2009, 08:55:40 PM
B.A,think I would like the cover slightly more had the unmasked Predator had its eyes in the shadows,lol.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Jul 15, 2009, 04:31:10 AM
damn son that boy can draw good covers!

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg259.imageshack.us%2Fimg259%2F9224%2Fpredator3.jpg&hash=dba994963378cb2f9f7ac4cfe21afedf0516a504)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 15, 2009, 12:40:03 PM
That is absolutely fantastic! The Predator covers are amazing. I'm trying to tempt Raymond Swanland to join the forums and talk with you lot.  :)

Also just received my review copy of Predator #1.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: CELTICPRED on Jul 15, 2009, 07:13:08 PM
So when does the series go on sale?

I looked for the first issue at my comic store today and found none.

Badass new cover btw.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 16, 2009, 10:05:10 AM
It's out now.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Jul 16, 2009, 03:41:19 PM
Damn. Swanland is a pred drawin' demigod.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Jul 17, 2009, 03:25:27 AM
can't really explain it more specifically but his covers really capture the spirit of the creature, and they're just plain nice to look at
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 17, 2009, 12:31:15 PM
Apparently there is a variant cover for Predator 1 as well. Anyone seen it?

Edit: Got it:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2F21%2F%21BV86w0g%21mk%7E%24%28KGrHgoOKj4EjlLmZqN%29BKVH9FMOGQ%7E%7E_1.JPG&hash=6348fddef693e390acfc2326628c7cbbbf9a088d)

It's apparently limited to 1000 copies and going for around £10.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jul 17, 2009, 01:40:57 PM
Damn, I hadn't seen that.

Well.

The hunt is on.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: shazam on Jul 17, 2009, 01:44:46 PM
This is a Free Comic Book Day Predator #1 variant cover.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 17, 2009, 01:54:27 PM
I'm honestly not sure whether to get it. I mean...it looks pretty shit.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Jul 17, 2009, 02:46:55 PM
It's part of of the Dark Horse 100 program where they pick 100 comic shops and send them send 10 copies of a special variant cover.    They do it a few times per year with other titles too.  

http://www.darkhorse.com/Press-Releases/1730/DH-100-Contest-Predator-6-22-09

When they hit ebay they're usually sold for $15 the first few weeks then settle down to $5-7 per copy.  A store nearby me won the contest again and they sell these for $7.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: shazam on Jul 18, 2009, 03:27:50 PM
Yep, you're right, sorry for my mistake!!!  :-\
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jul 21, 2009, 03:26:11 PM
I'm still gonna need to get it, just for completism's sake if nothing else. Damn my anal-retentive collecting!
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 22, 2009, 03:47:37 PM
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/15338.html

128 - 17.61 - PREDATOR #1 (OF 4) - $3.50 - DAR - 17,065

Worse than Aliens did.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jul 23, 2009, 02:50:39 AM
Solo Pred doesn't have the market clout that Aliens does. There's just not as many people interested in buying Predator. Also, I don't think Saltares' art helped it much. It's definitely grown on me somewhat, but I think most casual buyers would be offput.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Dallas on Jul 24, 2009, 07:21:51 PM
Just saw the cover for Predator #3 on Dark Horse's web site. Swanland's art is fantastic! I only wish he did interiors as well.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Jul 24, 2009, 07:33:36 PM
I'd like to see him draw a painted version of The Thing.     ;D

(from John Carpenter's 1982 movie)    8)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jul 24, 2009, 08:17:30 PM
I don't know that I'd want to see Swanland do interiors, personally. I mean, look back to Nightmare Asylum. Those four covers are four of my favorite Aliens paintings of all time. The interiors were also good, but his humans looked terrible imo, especially in the rushed-looking style he had for the interiors (which I don't fault him for, because you just can't put the kind of work he put on those covers into every panel). I see Swanland as similar in form if not in style. His work is absolutely brilliant, but until something makes me change my mind, I'd prefer it stay on the outside.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 26, 2009, 12:21:52 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/index.php?main=literature&section=reviewpredator
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Dallas on Jul 26, 2009, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: vikingspawn on Jul 24, 2009, 07:33:36 PM
I'd like to see him draw a painted version of The Thing.     ;D

(from John Carpenter's 1982 movie)    8)

That would be awesome. Did you ever read Dark Horse's "The Thing" comics series?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Dallas on Jul 26, 2009, 07:30:01 PM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Jul 24, 2009, 08:17:30 PM
I don't know that I'd want to see Swanland do interiors, personally. I mean, look back to Nightmare Asylum. Those four covers are four of my favorite Aliens paintings of all time. The interiors were also good, but his humans looked terrible imo, especially in the rushed-looking style he had for the interiors (which I don't fault him for, because you just can't put the kind of work he put on those covers into every panel). I see Swanland as similar in form if not in style. His work is absolutely brilliant, but until something makes me change my mind, I'd prefer it stay on the outside.

You're right in that artists are pressured to produce pages in a particular time frame which makes it difficult to do the same caliber as they do on the cover (which is just one picture and not 30 some pages). Swanland is just so talented that is was more wishful thinking. But if he had the time to do it, it would be awesome. If you've ever read an Alex Ross comic series in the last few years (Justice for example), it's fantastic to read a comic where every page is a work of art.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jul 28, 2009, 12:54:31 AM
Agreed. But Ross is such a big name that DC will let him do stuff like that (and the JSA special he painted last year). From what I've seen, Swanland is just as talented as Ross (if in different ways), but I doubt Dark Horse would allow him to do what he needed to do to paint a truly fantastic Alien or Predator series, if he even wanted to. At least at this point. Who knows what the future holds?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Jul 28, 2009, 01:16:55 AM
Quote from: Dallas on Jul 26, 2009, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: vikingspawn on Jul 24, 2009, 07:33:36 PM
I'd like to see him draw a painted version of The Thing.     ;D

(from John Carpenter's 1982 movie)    8)

That would be awesome. Did you ever read Dark Horse's "The Thing" comics series?

Heck yea!   I have the whole run that Dark Horse released.   I always kept them grouped together with my Aliens stash.    The first 2 issues are classics.

Here's a pic of the rare trade paperback:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg122.imageshack.us%2Fimg122%2F8614%2Ftcftpbul6.jpg&hash=57e0dc4c6242bc7903a6f815bf747ddcb21dfeb3)

Incredible painted art by John Higgins on the covers and interiors.

8)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Dallas on Jul 28, 2009, 07:40:50 PM
Sweet! I've never acutally read them myself but have seen them at my local comics shop. Perhaps I'll check them out.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Jul 28, 2009, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: Dallas on Jul 28, 2009, 07:40:50 PM
Sweet! I've never acutally read them myself but have seen them at my local comics shop. Perhaps I'll check them out.

John Carpenter mentioned he wanted to make a Thing movie sequel based on this storyline.    :o 
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Dallas on Jul 30, 2009, 06:43:28 PM
As long as Carpenter directed it, it would probably be good. I loved the movie but unfortunately so often a great film will be made and then the studio will hire some unknown director to make another film that turns out to be horrible (i.e. Alien 3). "The Thing" in my opinion is a Sci-fi/horror classic. So I'd hope that any spin offs would be done well. With that said, it would be great to see another Thing movie.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 16, 2009, 10:20:16 AM
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/16-109?page=1

Preview is up.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Bender1988 on Aug 20, 2009, 05:09:49 PM
The Predators looks like well...maybe worse than in Anderson AvP movie
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Aug 26, 2009, 03:03:05 AM
Just a reminder, issue #2 is out tomorrow.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 26, 2009, 10:55:54 AM
Out today. I'm waiting for my review copy. Anyone getting their copy today?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Aug 26, 2009, 11:57:50 AM
I will be. I'll post as soon as I've gotten a chance to read it.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 26, 2009, 03:14:48 PM
Might go get a copy anyway. Don't know if I can wait. lol
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Aug 26, 2009, 07:12:58 PM
I'm heading out to grab my copy shortly.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Aug 26, 2009, 11:47:41 PM
Would you like your established Predator behavior and weaponry, medium-rare, well-done, or extra-screwy?

The new issue was a little like candy. It was enjoyable while I was reading it, but I didn't really take anything away from it.

Spoiler
Issue # 2 takes the 'Bad Blood' concept touched upon in the first issue to whole new levels. There's a conspicuous lack of development of the story, which gives me the distinct feeling that issue three will be primarily devoted to explaining the 'plot twist' of having two warring tribes that we're already well aware of. I feel like the art improved a little bit, although the pred designs...I'm still not feelin' it. Overall I felt like this issue was just a bunch of exploitative action shots, which I suppose is what we should expect for the most part from a Predator series, but personally, I keep hoping for a little bit more of a story to surface.
[close]
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Aug 26, 2009, 11:48:09 PM
Just read it, it's pretty neat. The plot seems to be moving kinda slow, and I'm not sure how many issues this series is supposed to be, but I hope it picks up a bit in the coming issues. The art really isn't my favorite Predator art, but it gets the job done - I think the maskless Predator(s) look better in this issue than they did in the previous one, which is a step in the right direction. It's also clear that some characters know more than they're letting on, but it's not clear yet how much more they know, or how they know it.

I'm kinda missing the "traditional" Predator technology, I guess. Like, I like seeing these new Predator hand-held guns, but I wish they didn't look as much like near-future human guns. Complete with flat-head screws holding the scopes in place and whatnot. It just doesn't look right.

I'll stick with it, maybe things will pick up steam in the next issue.

Edit-- just posted a talkback thread for the issue over on the Dark Horse boards.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Aug 27, 2009, 02:03:32 AM
I think the weapons the initial preds were packing were supposed to be scavenged from the humans on-site. The implication I got was that they're the one's that are on the run from the others, and as such, don't have access to the traditional weaponry like the others do.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Sylizar on Aug 28, 2009, 12:08:39 PM
Is there any way to read these comics online? I want to read the new Alien and Predator comics so badly, but I can't find them anywhere.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Aug 28, 2009, 05:06:56 PM
They should be fairly readily available through a number of online dealers. And if all else fails, there's always ebay.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: bobby brown on Aug 28, 2009, 10:47:21 PM
or pirate bay  ;)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Aug 28, 2009, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: bobby brown on Aug 28, 2009, 10:47:21 PM
or pirate bay  ;)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alienexperience.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Feusa_whistle.gif&hash=83656ba8763267507ebb63f4e31da337e3f2926e) or a PM...
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Aug 29, 2009, 03:00:21 AM
I highly recommend MyComicShop.com (http://www.mycomicshop.com/?AffID=94798P01). Even if you don't order $50 worth of stuff to get free shipping, their shipping is super-cheap. They've got deals going on back-issues all the time, and they've got really fast shipping. I use them constantly, and I've never been disappointed.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Sep 09, 2009, 01:56:41 AM
PREDATOR #4

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg193.imageshack.us%2Fimg193%2F7769%2Fpredator4z.jpg&hash=55f4677bb7e75e7fd4529ddb3cc3cc29074a7470)


Written by John Arcudi, art by Javier Saltares, colored by Wes Dzioba, cover by Raymond Swanland.


Think that a third-world civil war is messy? How about an off-world civil war? Caught in the middle of a blood feud between rival Predator clans in an east African war zone, private military contractor Thorpe barely makes it back to base with his hide intact after a pitched firefight with a squad of extraterrestrial marauders. But clean sheets and hot chow will provide cold comfort once the alien killers and their lethal technology track Thorpe down, and he has precious little time to marshal the Graham Directive Security crew for a desperate defense. They might have had a chance had they not lost their most potent ally, a lone rival Predator warrior, but now Thorpe and the GDS soldiers are out of options and out of time as they prepare to make their stand"¹their last stand.

The explosive conclusion to the all-new Predator series. And be on the watch for a special preview of the new Aliens vs. Predator series, launching in January!

40 pages, $3.50, in stores on Dec. 23.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Sep 09, 2009, 07:50:41 PM
Very striking image, but I don't like this cover as much as the last two.

That being said, I still love it. Those last two were hard to top.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: cloverfan98 on Sep 09, 2009, 08:19:36 PM
Looks sweet. I still have yet to read this and the new Aliens series.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 09, 2009, 08:33:48 PM
I just wish the interior art (and the story) was as good as the covers.  :-\
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Sep 09, 2009, 08:38:13 PM
What story?

Lol, its been pretty bare bones.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 09, 2009, 08:43:20 PM
Exactly my point. :P

To be honest, both the Aliens and Predator series don't read like 4-issue series, they read like they should be 6 or 8 issues or something. I can't think of a single Aliens, Predator, or AvP 4-issue mini that had less going on (and fewer appearances of the titular creatures) in the first two issues than these two series.
Hell, 'Aliens: Colonial Marines' was 10 issues long and it had more happening per issue than these two. Ditto on the colossal mindf**k that was 'Deadliest of the Species', and that was 12 issues.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Sep 09, 2009, 08:45:11 PM
Every time.


every time Swanlan outdoes himself.

The only downside to his stuff is that it makes Saltares interior art look even more mediocre.


GODDAMN I would pay swanlan in babies if he did some interiors.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 09, 2009, 08:43:20 PM

To be honest, both the Aliens and Predator series don't read like 4-issue series, they read like they should be 6 or 8 issues or something. I can't think of a single Aliens, Predator, or AvP 4-issue mini that had less going on (and fewer appearances of the titular creatures) in the first two issues than these two series.
*sigh*
Yeah, although I'm liking this Aliens story, i also feel like almost

nothing.

is.

happening.

They waste so many of panels with little to no dialogue where more character development or something else could be implemented. The Pacing feels far too slow, either these last two issues will fall right into place and explain the mystery of the aliens city, and the effect it has on the colonists, how Sereda will deal with the dudes who killed his crew, and just why the hell Aliens are on the planet in the first place. Or everything will be rushed or never explained.


Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Sep 10, 2009, 04:05:10 PM
I'm thinking the latter.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: happypred on Sep 14, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
just read the first two issues of both the aliens and predator series, and yeah I'm expecting the stories to pick up some major pace in the upcoming issues . . .

the art for the predators is a bit underwhelming though, and I think the style is straying farther and farther away from my taste

original jungle hunter style
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anderson armour, fine I can deal with that...
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generic guns...
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Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 15, 2009, 06:52:21 AM
What is the source of the info and the picture?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Sep 15, 2009, 07:03:28 AM
That last pic is from issue 2.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 16, 2009, 06:48:18 AM
I mean, the cover sorry. For Pred #4.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Rabies on Sep 16, 2009, 04:33:32 PM
Yeah I've been looking all over for the 4th cover as well as some of the other pieces Raymond submitted to Darkhorse does anyone know where I can find them they're not on his website
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Rabies on Sep 16, 2009, 04:34:38 PM
never mind about the cover
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: magical_boy on Sep 16, 2009, 06:08:52 PM
but seriously wow, this guy can draw

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Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: RagingDragon on Sep 18, 2009, 06:04:12 PM
Why has no one else said this?

Holy spoilers, please, in the future, use the tag, so that whatever meager thrill I manage to leach from this slow, awkward, and thus far unimpressive Predator story isn't spoiled by the synopsis you post 2 months before the issue will even be released.

Thank you.  Now that that's out of the way, I'll say this.

Dark Horse just needs to let me write, draw, and ink the Predator series.  I don't want to insult anyone on the production staff, they're doing their best, I just don't think it suits "Predator."  I do enjoy the art, the people and action shots are good, but the Predators look very mediocre, like the artist is drawing from an old Predator action figure, and what sells the Predator story?  The bloody PREDATOR.

Pitching a Predator comic with great art but ridiculous looking Predators is like trying to sell a slick sports car with a terrible, malfunctioning engine.  It can sit in your driveway or garage and impress your neighbors, as these comics can sit in my collection and impress with their beautiful covers that say "Predator," but there's nothing under the hood.

If it weren't for the nice colors and jaw-dropping cover, I would guess this comic was published in 1994, not 2009.  There is just so much more that can be done with this series, such an incredible base, with a lot of terror, suspense, alien technology, conspiracies, commandos, and glorious death!  My expectations are high because they should be, it's a great creation that should be exploited creatively.

You just need the right people for the right job, Dark Horse.  Give writer and artist a pat on the back, and for God's sake a raise, and then give them another book to do.  Give Predator to ME!  I am it's father, it is my destiny!  I demand it!   ;D

Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xeno on Oct 17, 2009, 05:40:01 PM
Preview for issue #3 is online, here's the ->link (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/16-110?page=0).

Look at the y-word on the last page of the preview.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: The One and Only on Oct 17, 2009, 08:54:04 PM
I wonder if the Preds are still on the hunt for their tech acquired  at the end of Requeim ?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xeno on Oct 17, 2009, 10:17:42 PM
Quote from: The One and Only on Oct 17, 2009, 08:54:04 PM
I wonder if the Preds are still on the hunt for their tech acquired  at the end of Requeim ?
These Predators (except the killed one in the FCBD and the 'good' Predator) seem to be the one of the new AvP-comicseries, this long-lost Predator clan. They have a different motivation for all their actions.

QuoteA centuries-old interstellar conflict threatens humanity's very existence as a long-lost Predator clan stakes its claim for galactic dominance, intent on exterminating its rival clan, the selfsame trophy hunters who have plagued Earth's history and every world they have touched.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Oct 17, 2009, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: The One and Only on Oct 17, 2009, 08:54:04 PM
I wonder if the Preds are still on the hunt for their tech acquired  at the end of Requeim ?

Hopefully not. I haven't seen any AVPR(ectum) references in these new comics and I hopefully never will.


Having Yutani mentioned could be an interesting development, but I'm hesitant to having Predator mixing with Alien outside of the crossovers, even in comic form.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Oct 17, 2009, 11:58:56 PM
Well, but with these two series tying directly into the forthcoming TWW, its fairly inevitable.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: The One and Only on Oct 19, 2009, 04:39:51 AM
Quote by Spegetti:
QuoteHopefully not. I haven't seen any AVP:R(ectum) references in these new comics, and I hopefully never will.
Well the AVP films are out there now so they're cannon for both franchises mythology, and I guess you'll just have to live with them. :P Like life, there are some parts we don't much care for, but we can't change them. And thus we'll have to man up ,and just live with them.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: MadassAlex on Oct 19, 2009, 04:45:37 AM
... nah.

Those movies, being fictional and outside the time-scope of the previous movies, can be ignored by future writers.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Oct 19, 2009, 12:13:38 PM
Key word being 'can'. I don't want to see overt references either, but I would also rather they don't try and retcon out either of those films.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: MadassAlex on Oct 19, 2009, 01:59:39 PM
They don't need to be retconned. Both were isolated incidents witnessed by only a few highly mortal human survivors.

No human characters would know anything about them. The Predators would see AvP as a hunt gone bad and AvPR as a mystery. Aliens don't give a shit either way.

No retcons, and no references. Everyone wins.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Oct 19, 2009, 05:53:17 PM
Or in the best case scenario, if these solo movies work down the line we'll get a AVP reboot that throws all that nonsense out the window and hopefully wont suck like its predecessors.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 21, 2009, 05:39:36 PM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/index.php?main=literature&section=reviewpredator2
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: XenoVC on Oct 31, 2009, 12:24:00 AM
#3 is out now,about to read it.

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Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Oct 31, 2009, 03:29:37 AM
Yeah, I read it earlier today. The story picks up quite a bit I felt, although its still pretty bare-bones. As with the Aliens series, I really feel like it would benefit from being a few issues longer, because as it is with both series, the ending is going to be very rushed.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Oct 31, 2009, 04:47:39 AM

PREDATORS. EATING GOAT HEADS.

yeah, I'm really wondering how their going to end this. The backstory talks about the so-called predator blodfewd yet the story hits on none of that.

There is some kinda black and red ninja predator clan and another predator who seems to be killing them. If I didn't know the backstory already I would have no idea what is going on. This series could have had a whole issue on the backstory between the lead guy and his time captured by predators, yet that whole subplot seems to have gone right over our heads. Not expecting much from the last issue.

I feel allot of time used to build on the human characters (time wasted IMO) could have been used showing more about what is exactly going on between the predators, cause this last issue, if its gonna explain all this, is gonna be rushed as hell.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Oct 31, 2009, 05:15:36 AM
I thought seeing the Predator eat was interesting, though, since to my knowledge we haven't seen that before. I always thought there was a decent possibility that what looked like a mouth to us was actually a reproductive organ (maybe it still is - after all, we piss out of ours, maybe they eat with theirs).
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: magical_boy on Oct 31, 2009, 06:48:19 AM
I remember the Big Game comic had a predator eating sheep on the roof (don't ask me why)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2009, 10:46:14 AM
Can't say I was impressed. I was hoping for some major stuff to happen in this issue.  :-\ Not really digging the Pred series. Art is amazing though.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Oct 31, 2009, 01:29:15 PM
Yeah, the art has really grown on me. I wasn't digging it at all at first, but now I really like it.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: XenoVC on Nov 03, 2009, 11:55:50 PM
Would the reference to Yutani as a single corporation technically be the first AvPR reference in the A/P media?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 04, 2009, 06:02:36 PM
Yutani and Weyland were both in Predator CJ.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Nov 04, 2009, 11:17:30 PM
I don't think that counts, though, since it came out before AVPR.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: XenoVC on Nov 05, 2009, 11:43:55 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 04, 2009, 06:02:36 PM
Yutani and Weyland were both in Predator CJ.

Ah,forgot about that,haven't played the game in years.

I would think they would be referencing it from AvPR though,rather than CJ.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: alienfan95610 on Nov 13, 2009, 11:50:32 PM
Ok...while rereading my copy of #3 a little bit ago..I noticed something that I missed before..check it out...could be important for #4, or maybe not...who knows....

On the inside cover..turn the comic sideways and you will see the following in VERY small print..

"Mothership Landing Point...10359.21..by....5683.21....Rendezvous once kill is confirmed"

"Unarmed combatants considered indispensable...Maintain honor before the prize"

"Five Unknown Assailants.... .75 kilometers South by Southeast"

Then skip to the "next issue" page at the back and look at the very bottom...again in small print it says...

"Congratulations Young Blood Hunter 09217193, Kill confirmed and Catalogued"

"Commence Ship Rendezous, 10359.21..by.. 5683.21"

Here's what I get out of it.....the lone predator is a young blood and has help on the way via the mothership. Could be a very bloody issue #4...lol....

Anyway...all this probably means nothing as relates to the story, just thought I'd point it out cause it's kinda cool.... :)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: alienfan95610 on Nov 14, 2009, 12:14:08 AM
Quote from: scorpio95628 on Nov 13, 2009, 11:50:32 PM
Ok...while rereading my copy of #3 a little bit ago..I noticed something that I missed before..check it out...could be important for #4, or maybe not...who knows....

On the inside cover..turn the comic sideways and you will see the following in VERY small print..

"Mothership Landing Point...10359.21..by....5683.21....Rendezvous once kill is confirmed"

"Unarmed combatants considered indispensable...Maintain honor before the prize"

"Five Unknown Assailants.... .75 kilometers South by Southeast"

Then skip to the "next issue" page at the back and look at the very bottom...again in small print it says...

"Congratulations Young Blood Hunter 09217193, Kill confirmed and Catalogued"

"Commence Ship Rendezous, 10359.21..by.. 5683.21"

Here's what I get out of it.....the lone predator is a young blood and has help on the way via the mothership. Could be a very bloody issue #4...lol....

Anyway...all this probably means nothing as relates to the story, just thought I'd point it out cause it's kinda cool.... :)

OK..just noticed the same stuff is in issues #1 and #2 as well....so maybe not so important to the story as I thought...lol....oh well....just trying to drum up some excitement for a pretty boring series... :)
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Nov 14, 2009, 05:01:50 AM
Even if it doesn't have any bearing, its still a neat find. I mean somebody put it there, and it would seem to be purposeful, so, there must be something behind it. Even if it is just random Dark Horse...stuff.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xeno on Nov 26, 2009, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Nov 14, 2009, 05:01:50 AM
Even if it doesn't have any bearing, its still a neat find. I mean somebody put it there, and it would seem to be purposeful, so, there must be something behind it. Even if it is just random Dark Horse...stuff.
I noticed them 3 months ago. They were just added by the graphic designer and have nothing to do with the story.

Predator #4 has been suspended. The new release is 13th january 2010.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: alienfan95610 on Nov 27, 2009, 02:11:56 AM
Quote from: Xeno on Nov 26, 2009, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Nov 14, 2009, 05:01:50 AM
Even if it doesn't have any bearing, its still a neat find. I mean somebody put it there, and it would seem to be purposeful, so, there must be something behind it. Even if it is just random Dark Horse...stuff.
I noticed them 3 months ago. They were just added by the graphic designer and have nothing to do with the story.

Predator #4 has been suspended. The new release is 13th january 2010.

January 13, 2010 is also the release date for AVP: Three World War #1.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Nov 27, 2009, 02:38:37 AM
Yeah, my guess is the lateness of Aliens # 4 is going to push all the issues back.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: alienfan95610 on Nov 27, 2009, 05:33:11 AM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Nov 27, 2009, 02:38:37 AM
Yeah, my guess is the lateness of Aliens # 4 is going to push all the issues back.

Actually, according to Diamond's website, Aliens #4 is coming out next week which only makes it a week late (You were right when you said not to sweat it..lol). And even if Predator #4 is pushed back until January 13 that still only makes it a couple of weeks late. It's original release date, according to issue #3 was 12/23/09.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Nov 27, 2009, 02:42:18 PM
Yeah, I was aware of that, I was just saying that the entire schedule is probably going to shift (or at least the next several issues worth) to accomodate. So TWW #s 1 thru 3 may or may not also be a week to several weeks later than originally solicited.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Frog on Dec 10, 2009, 03:14:48 PM
Again, like with the Aliens reboot, the covers are phenomenal!

But honestly, I am not so sure about the interiors or stories from what has been posted here.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 16, 2009, 08:52:35 PM
The title for the trade paperback collection has been confirmed, "Prey to the Heavens" (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Dark_Horse_Comics_For_March_2010_128155.asp).
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 16, 2009, 10:50:06 PM
Good choice for the cover.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Dec 17, 2009, 01:01:27 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 16, 2009, 08:52:35 PM
The title for the trade paperback collection has been confirmed, "Prey to the Heavens" (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Dark_Horse_Comics_For_March_2010_128155.asp).

Hah! I was right! Totally guessed that a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 20, 2009, 05:43:53 PM
It's up on Dark Horse now.

http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/16-786/Predator-Prey-to-the-Heavens-TPB
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: vikingspawn on Dec 31, 2009, 11:01:26 PM
3 preview pages from issue #4:

http://io9.com/5438028/preview-the-new-predator-comic/gallery/

Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Yautja117 on Jan 02, 2010, 03:45:29 AM
Haven't got to read any from this series. The lack of comic stores for 40 miles is greatly annoying. Is it worth buying the TPB?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: alienfan95610 on Jan 02, 2010, 04:22:04 AM
Quote from: Yautja117 on Jan 02, 2010, 03:45:29 AM
Haven't got to read any from this series. The lack of comic stores for 40 miles is greatly annoying. Is it worth buying the TPB?

I use an online comic shop. My comics get delivered to my door... ;)..something you might want to consider. Two good ones are..mycomicshop.com (the one I use) and G-mart.com. Both offer decent discounts on new comics (G-mart's discount is better, but mycomicshop.com has much better service, which is more important to me than saving a few extra bucks), both will bag and board yours comics before shipping them, etc..etc. I haven't actually stepped foot into a real comic shop in a long time. Check out the online shops....you might find out that you like 'em!

And yeah..the trade is worth it. Not the best Predator series I've ever read but certainly not the worst either.....
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Yautja117 on Jan 02, 2010, 05:36:10 AM
Okay, thanks. We've got two place that sell comics and niether carry Predator, Aliens ect. It sucks.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 21, 2010, 09:03:40 PM
Issue #4 is finally coming out next Wednesday.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: XenoVC on Jan 21, 2010, 11:09:57 PM
Wow,I completely forgot about this series.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jan 22, 2010, 02:30:32 AM
That's what happens when they wait three months between issues...

I really find myself almost not caring. I mean, I'll get it and read it, but I'm not really excited.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 22, 2010, 02:37:40 AM
Likewise. The series has been so forgettable so far that I will be absolutely amazed if they manage to make something compelling with the final issue. Then again, the bar has been set so low with the first 3 issues, so I guess we'll see what happens. :P
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 22, 2010, 07:51:54 AM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Jan 22, 2010, 02:30:32 AM
That's what happens when they wait three months between issues...

I really find myself almost not caring. I mean, I'll get it and read it, but I'm not really excited.

Same. I'm nowhere near as fussed about this as I was Aliens.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 27, 2010, 07:43:49 AM
Well I'm gonna drop by and see if the local has this in.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 27, 2010, 07:58:46 AM
I'll be picking up my copy on the way to the gym tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: SiL on Jan 27, 2010, 08:04:55 AM
I will pick up my copy while bench-pressing the comic book shop.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 27, 2010, 08:36:05 AM
I think you meant to say "while bench-pressing a comic book". :P
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: SiL on Jan 27, 2010, 08:37:35 AM
It is a tiny comic shop.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 27, 2010, 12:03:25 PM
No luck. Not in 'till tomorrow.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jan 27, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
Yeah, a lot of comic shops these days (the one I work at included) are moving new comic day to Thursdays, even though we technically should be getting them out on Wednesday, just because frankly, it ends up being better for everybody. It's one day closer to the weekend, it gives the shops extra time to process the books and get 'em out, etc.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Seraph on Jan 27, 2010, 07:01:57 PM
Does anyone know what these two books are?

http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/16-786/Predator-Prey-to-the-Heavens-TPB

http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/16-781/Aliens-More-Than-Human-TPB

Are they supposed to be the Omnibus for both of the new series? How many issues are in each series (the Predator 2009 and Aliens 2009)?  ???

I prefer to buy all the issues in one binding and need to make sure that they're the Omnibus. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jan 27, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
those are the trade-paperback collections for the two reboot series', each consisting of 4 and a half issues (4-issue miniseries plus half the FCBD issue).
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Seraph on Jan 27, 2010, 07:15:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Jan 27, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
those are the trade-paperback collections for the two reboot series', each consisting of 4 and a half issues (4-issue miniseries plus half the FCBD issue).

So just to be sure, instead of buying the individual issues, I can get them all in two books by purchasing those two instead?

Also do you know if this book is part of the same series?
http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/16-794/Aliens-Fast-Track-to-Heaven
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 27, 2010, 08:12:09 PM
Yes, buying the trade paperbacks gets you exactly the same stuff as if you bought the issues individually.

Fast Track to Heaven is a new graphic novel that's coming out later this year.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jan 27, 2010, 11:48:23 PM
Just read the final issue. Eh.

Manages to leave you with even less closure than the Aliens series.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Jan 28, 2010, 12:42:29 AM
Hit me with some spoilers bro? I don't think Im gonna bother getting it.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jan 28, 2010, 01:26:17 AM
Spoiler
stuff blows up. Maybe some Predators die? Thorpe disappears. One guy goes batshit in a tank. 'sabout it.
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Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on Jan 28, 2010, 05:56:38 AM
Yyyeeaah. I think I'll pass on it.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 28, 2010, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Jan 27, 2010, 11:48:23 PM
Manages to leave you with even less closure than the Aliens series.

Aliens had closure for Sereda's story. And Aliens was all about Sereda. It just left a bigger mystery for future issues.

Wont be able to get Issue 4 today. Delivery isn't in yet and he'll be closed by the time I finish. Looks like I'll get it tomorrow.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 28, 2010, 01:28:27 PM
Read it last night, it was pretty "meh". Some of the action was neat, the final couple pages made no goddamn sense and left nothing resolved. I had trouble determining which "side" some of the Predators were on based on the art (and I'd totally forgotten which side I was even supposed to root for, or if I was supposed to hate them equally or something), all in all I really wasn't impressed. I think I'd have liked the series more if it had been a few issues longer to really flesh out what was going on and why I should give a shit.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: XenoVC on Jan 28, 2010, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Jan 28, 2010, 01:26:17 AM
Spoiler
stuff blows up. Maybe some Predators die? Thorpe disappears. One guy goes batshit in a tank. 'sabout it.
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D:

So,it's dragged on for this long and gotten nowhere?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Mr. Domino on Jan 28, 2010, 11:13:40 PM
Pretty much.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Jan 29, 2010, 12:48:07 AM
I think the best part is
Spoiler
for an issue that shows a Predator ripping another Predator's head off with his bare hands while being targeted by numerous Predator laser-sights on the cover, there is absolutely no Predator on Predator combat in the entire issue.
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I posted my sentiments to the Dark Horse Comics group on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/#/darkhorsecomics?ref=nf), and whoever runs it actually responded:

QuoteIt was a shame to only see it go four issues, but we've got more plans for the property, so stay tuned!

Take from that what you will, I guess.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2010, 07:16:42 PM
My series review - http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/predator-prey-to-the-heavens/
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 02, 2010, 08:55:12 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2010, 07:16:42 PM
My series review - http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/predator-prey-to-the-heavens-review/
"Error 404 - Not Found" :(
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2010, 09:07:00 PM
Try the link on the front page. I cant copy the link, am on my Hero.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2010, 11:04:51 PM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/predator-prey-to-the-heavens/
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: magical_boy on Feb 10, 2010, 07:16:29 PM
any idea when the TPB will come out?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: FearPeteySodes on Feb 10, 2010, 07:19:54 PM
Quote from: magical_boy on Feb 10, 2010, 07:16:29 PM
any idea when the TPB will come out?

Amazon lists it as May 26th.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Eternal_1 on Feb 11, 2010, 08:39:08 AM
Not a bad storyline, sorta confuseing tho. The predator art was odd, but not bad. I say its worth reading.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Feb 11, 2010, 02:12:17 PM
Well, I think it's very disappointing. The story itself... well doesn't exist. The characters are kinda boring and poorly made. The style itself is really good though, but sometimes the 'normal' predator looks too bulky. There is no real conclusion/ ending. Which wouldn't be a problem if the story so far had been made up to be interesting. But like this I don't really care what happened to Thorpe. By the way I think the normal pred simply died. And I don't see how the whole story is attached to avp: 3ww. Okay, they did show there's a different clan and they struggle with the normal preds. But that's all?
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Lobster on Feb 12, 2010, 12:30:27 AM
Chris Warner said somewhere that this Predator comic would be more focused on action rather than story.
The first Predator movie was non stop action and very little plot, so perhaps Warner thought the comic should be the same? :-\
Hopefully the future Predator comics will be better, cause they could hardly get any worse than this one.  :(
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 12, 2010, 01:46:51 AM
Predator: Race War was pretty shit, but that's mostly because they switched artists after the first issue from someone who was really awesome to someone who totally sucked, and the writer seemed to stop giving a shit after issue 1, too. The series had potential, too, which was a shame.

Predator: Xenogenesis was no great shakes, either.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Inglorious on Feb 13, 2010, 12:02:54 AM
I'll give it a shot. We're in need of good Predator comics, because the number of good comics could be counted on one hand:

Concrete Jungle: Awesome. The parallels' between it and Predator 2 are fun. It was a well told B film in comic form.

Kindred: No one talks about this one. It has a good concept with a serial killer worshiping a Predator. It's pretty good.

Bad Blood: This is a real guilty pleasure. The art is good, but the writing is terrible. But it's fun to see a killer predator, and it has a ton of gore.

Race War: I thought it was decent. Good concept. Not much to say.

Primal: LOL.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 13, 2010, 02:32:37 AM
I like Kindred a lot. It gets a little goofy near the end when the main character "snaps" and dresses up like a Predator, but somehow the series ends up making it work without making it TOO retarded and totally crippling the series.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Feb 13, 2010, 07:41:01 AM
I think kindred wasn't that good, but ok. Bad blood on the other hand is one of the best pred comics I think.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Inglorious on Feb 13, 2010, 09:53:54 PM
Really? I mean the writing in Bad Blood is horrible. The story as to why the humans are there makes almost no sense. Basically the FBI and some hunters assemble to find the Predator, and are basically fodder. Then some ultimate badasses that were former agents show up and decide to killer the Predator for no particular reason.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Feb 14, 2010, 07:24:24 AM
First I agree, the story isn't that good. But I've never found a very complicated story in any avp/p comics so far :) And to be precise their is a paintball field, that's runned by an ex-cia agent. The players are killed by the bad blood (they aren't in to get the pred), after that the cia guy shows up, takes the formes cia guy into custody. Then the 'ultimate badasses' show up, who by the way were partners of the captured guy, and he called them there. Just to be sure :) I don't think the story is that dumb on the human side, but on pred side it's just very good, showing a different (and not extreme) aspect of the predators' society. For me preds are the point, so I like Bad blood  ;D
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Yautja117 on Mar 02, 2010, 03:46:58 AM
The ending...What the hell? That was terrible!
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Yautja117 on May 30, 2010, 02:33:02 AM
Sorry to double post, but I found the TPB at Borders today. These series should be longer. Nothing really happens and BAM it's over. 2.5/5 for me.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Spaghetti on May 30, 2010, 03:35:25 AM
Yup, you pretty much summed up how I felt about it.

Seems to me like Arcudi used all his tricks for the Alien series and the Predator series got the left overs.
Title: Re: "Predator" 2009 Mini-Series
Post by: Yautja117 on May 30, 2010, 05:33:21 AM
It's a shame. That story could have developed into something great. I might pick it up later though. It was better than some of the other comics, atleast.