Quote from: Ridlazz921 on Aug 14, 2020, 10:59:19 PM
When the RED camera is visable during every BTS video and image, it doesnt make sense that they used the Alexa for smaller scenes
When they got the RED
The large format camera.
Hell i am shooting on the BMPCC 4k with vintage lenses too. We got the 4k, we are not gonna switch to the original BMPCC camera when we got the 4k
Thats what doesnt make sense. I know u can shoot VFX with more high end cameras. But it doesnt make sense that hey used a 3.2K camera when every BTS footage shows that they shoot on the RED
I highly doubt they said: All right boys, lets put those 6K / 8K cameras we rented for the whole shoot, in the corner and switch to a larger heavier 3.2k camera for this small intimate scene. And BTW Ridley want five of those too. Its hella expensive but hey, we want to use another camera for this scene, just because we can...
Most behind the scenes I saw had the Arri Alexa.
Usually Post house like the Red for doing C Cam VFX related stuff because for two reasons:
-extra resolution (even if it's not perceptually sharper because the actual gain is kind of a lie since you need to multiply the camera (especially Red) photosites by 0.7 to obtain the actual debayering resolution which is what Arri always gives you as a technical detail which is also why you had such number as 2.8k for the Classic EV and 3.2K for the current Alev III gen which both correspond to 4K acquisition and 5K. Both codec could easily be re-warp into higer res with no trouble and compete against a Red.) is useful for tracking shots and the deep learning love the pixels. It's not necessary sharper but it's definitely giving a bit of a boost in these areas that requires intense motion datas.
-Real time playback. Arri is pure 12bit log or 16 bit linear footage. A lot of highend production choose to shoot with Arriraw which is very CPU intensive and has very limited GPU support even if it got better in recent years. When you're doing VFX, you need all the speed you can and Redcode Raw is super fast. I can easily playback 8K debayered at Full Res on my Color Grading station (32 Thread) and is super NVIDIA friendly which is what the industry loves.
Not everything is about resolution, in fact very little considering you likely saw Covenant in 2K (even if you were advertised for 4K Imax, it's likely they just oversampled a bit the master file like we always do because... truth is your eyes can't see a thing beyond that resolution and what got better in recent years are bandwidth, contrast and bit depth which all three account for far more details preserved than resolution [I strongly advise you watch Steve Yedlin technical demo about this, it's very well explained]).
The Alexa still has unmatched capability in terms of sensitivity which is why a lot of DoP prefers it over the Red. That being said a lot of the difference has shrinken in the last year, so much that the BMPCC4K almost felt like an Alexa on the shoot (they both share the same sensor manufacturer "ON Semic Conducter" after all, blackmagic is kind of the little cousin to Arri) but where Arri shine most is the form factor. Red sucks for that, it overheat, the cable management is a pain and their camera feels made in "to be broken soon" while you can easily feel when holding an alexa that it may fall from an Helicopter or Burn in an accident and the camera may still be pretty okay aside the cosmetic look.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 14, 2020, 11:52:40 PM
I'm just hoping I get through this project with mine. Sometimes it doesn't recognise the power is plugged in which is stressful to say the least.
I really don't like what they've done with the look from the new cameras so I'm resisting the upgrade as long as I can. If only the digital bolex hadn't died as quickly as it did ...
Kinda Off Topic but...
Just finished a feature film this summer with the Pocket 4K as a DP, kind of a first to use this camera.
loved it all the way, its latitude is wide enough so the camera can be repurposed as any look desired.
We went in Prep with a 35mm look in mind. Could have increase the LPF and adjusted the grain to match my favorite 16mm stock though.
I loved the original Pocket for sure but I do feel the BMPCC4K is a step up... or a cross step between their original BMCC 4K (the body looks very similar) and the Pocket. But they all have tragic form factor, never had so much pain in cable management and good thing we had a lot of spare on the shoot.