Katherine Waterston on Alien: Covenant 2 - "I Haven’t Heard Anything in Ages"

Started by Corporal Hicks, Apr 24, 2018, 11:19:48 PM

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Katherine Waterston on Alien: Covenant 2 - "I Haven’t Heard Anything in Ages" (Read 29,685 times)

SM

Same as the end of Covenant being 'literally perfect', then.

whiterabbit

Literally literally.

Still I don't mind Ridley Scott's alien movies. I'd prefer he'd do at least one more.

SiL

Quote from: tleilaxu on May 10, 2018, 10:04:09 PMWe all know that's objectively incorrect, whether you liked Covenant as a whole or not.
We all know the ending being "literally perfect" is objective incorrect, whether you liked Covenant as a whole or not.

Baron Von Marlon

This prequel story is Ridley's, so to me it makes sense if he's the one to finish it.

bb-15

Quote from: SiL on May 11, 2018, 04:11:26 AM
Quote from: tleilaxu on May 10, 2018, 10:04:09 PMWe all know that's objectively incorrect, whether you liked Covenant as a whole or not.
We all know the ending being "literally perfect" is objective incorrect, whether you liked Covenant as a whole or not.

Yeah, when it comes to personal taste with a film (work of art) nothing is objectively perfect or not.
Manos Hands of Fate has 10/10 scores on IMDb.
While 2001 has 1/10 scores on the same site.

To me, for movie ratings all we can do is share our personal reactions.

;)

tleilaxu

Of course nothing is objectively correct regarding taste, but it's safe to say that e.g. superhero movies (colloquially known as capeshit) are pleb-tier. Covenant's ending was amazing, aesthetically, visually, sonically. The idea to have David play The Entry of the Gods into Valhalla anemically during the first scene with Weyland and to have it all end with glorious triumph to the full orchestra version playing is just 10/10 in my (correct) opinion, but of course this may vary individually whether you're the type who likes Alien for the creature or likes being scared of it.

Paranoid Android

Quote from: tleilaxu on May 11, 2018, 01:27:35 PM
Of course nothing is objectively correct regarding taste, but it's safe to say that e.g. superhero movies (colloquially known as capeshit) are pleb-tier. Covenant's ending was amazing, aesthetically, visually, sonically. The idea to have David play The Entry of the Gods into Valhalla anemically during the first scene with Weyland and to have it all end with glorious triumph to the full orchestra version playing is just 10/10 in my (correct) opinion, but of course this may vary individually whether you're the type who likes Alien for the creature or likes being scared of it.

You can go to the cinema right this second and buy a ticket to a superhero movie in which the villain wins.

tleilaxu

tleilaxu

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Quote from: Paranoid Android on May 11, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: tleilaxu on May 11, 2018, 01:27:35 PM
Of course nothing is objectively correct regarding taste, but it's safe to say that e.g. superhero movies (colloquially known as capeshit) are pleb-tier. Covenant's ending was amazing, aesthetically, visually, sonically. The idea to have David play The Entry of the Gods into Valhalla anemically during the first scene with Weyland and to have it all end with glorious triumph to the full orchestra version playing is just 10/10 in my (correct) opinion, but of course this may vary individually whether you're the type who likes Alien for the creature or likes being scared of it.

You can go to the cinema right this second and buy a ticket to a superhero movie in which the villain wins.
That's not the point, but I'm glad that to hear that a villain can win even in capeshit, maybe there's still hope...

bb-15

Quote from: tleilaxu on May 11, 2018, 01:27:35 PM
Of course nothing is objectively correct regarding taste, but it's safe to say that e.g. superhero movies (colloquially known as capeshit) are pleb-tier. Covenant's ending was amazing, aesthetically, visually, sonically. The idea to have David play The Entry of the Gods into Valhalla anemically during the first scene with Weyland and to have it all end with glorious triumph to the full orchestra version playing is just 10/10 in my (correct) opinion, but of course this may vary individually whether you're the type who likes Alien for the creature or likes being scared of it.

For someone who likes more art house style of movies, the themes in Covenant, such as about the Entry of the Gods into Valhalla, may be appreciated.
It depends on the viewer. (Since I'm a big fan of "2001", what Covenant was trying to do with David is my kind of film.)

But I'm not typical.
Many people complain that Covenant had too bleak of an ending.
Yet Infinity War has a much darker ending compared with Covenant.

* But the most common reaction to a movie is not intellectual but is at a gut level.
Infinity War is a huge box office hit.
Many more people love it compared with Covenant.

;)

Baron Von Marlon

Some thoughts:

-Katherine Waterston has 1 movie coming up, 1 in pre-production and 1 in post production.

-Danny McBride has 1 in pre-production and 2 in post-production.

-Michael Fassbender has 1 in pre-production which is Kung Fury 2. I guess he'll do the voice for one of the characters. And I assume something like this doesn't take that much recording days.
Besides that he has 1 in post-production: X-Men: Dark Phoenix.  Last thing I remember reading is that his parts were filmed. So it's safe to say he's done working on this movie.
So... Imo Fassbender is a quality actor. I find it rather surprising that he hasn't got any other projects lined up.
Could it be he's waiting because of the potential sequel?
To me this kinda makes sense because they'd most likely need Fassbender for a longer period of shooting time than Waterston or McBride. Because I assume they're getting a similar fate as Rapace.

Whos_Nick

None of them are sitting around waiting for the movie to happen, especially considering Ridley is spinning a ton of plates besides Alien

Voodoo Magic

Considering the downwards trend, if Disney decides to make another Alien film, I seriously doubt a decision would be made to continue down this road.

Evanus

Well, I guess the TV show rumors could still be true.

But I think Fassbender is just less active these days because he wants to slow down a bit, he's said so in interviews iirc.

The Old One

The Old One

#163
"Christopher Marc here... yeah I'm not sure you guys know who I am so I figured I'd make a glorious return to the AVPGalaxy forums, so yeah, I actually started out here in the early 2000s when Fox was mulling over ALIEN 5 vs AVP... then I started doing film stuff in early Facebook groups, then finding images/scoops sending them to places like SlashFilm, FilmSchoolRejects, and FirstShowing- eventually started my own blog Celluloid & Cigarette Burns, and attempted to self-teach aggregation of industry news.

Ended up co-founding OmegaUnderground about four years ago this month, I've done some light freelancing for IGN a while back, we then sold OmegaUnderground to GeeksWorldWide in July and I eventually moved on to writing news for Hybrid Network in Novermber. I've been covering film news since about 2008 so over ten years now.

Concerning our story, this was coming from someone that has been giving some solid film and TV information over the last year, mostly through direct L.A. agency sources (like how the film trades get their information). I totally understand why Mr. H (he blew up at me in direct messages on Twitter yesterday which sparked that debunk video) and others feel the need to be skeptical and from my perspective, this is still super early and is a huge reason why nobody at Fox is confirming this to the community- because like AP pointed out above in my tweet this long-game stuff at the moment it's not something that is coming out in the next couple months or that is being previewed among the community websites- take it as you will, I post production/crew news on a daily basis, I don't waste my time on clickbait... anyways, I hope everyone has a lovely Valentine's Day."

TL;DR

The Isolation series is unrelated, two WIP series exist regardless.

Baron Von Marlon

Quote from: The Old One on Mar 22, 2019, 04:25:24 PM
"Christopher Marc here... yeah I'm not sure you guys know who I am so I figured I'd make a glorious return to the AVPGalaxy forums, so yeah, I actually started out here in the early 2000s when Fox was mulling over ALIEN 5 vs AVP... then I started doing film stuff in early Facebook groups, then finding images/scoops sending them to places like SlashFilm, FilmSchoolRejects, and FirstShowing- eventually started my own blog Celluloid & Cigarette Burns, and attempted to self-teach aggregation of industry news.

Ended up co-founding OmegaUnderground about four years ago this month, I've done some light freelancing for IGN a while back, we then sold OmegaUnderground to GeeksWorldWide in July and I eventually moved on to writing news for Hybrid Network in Novermber. I've been covering film news since about 2008 so over ten years now.

Concerning our story, this was coming from someone that has been giving some solid film and TV information over the last year, mostly through direct L.A. agency sources (like how the film trades get their information). I totally understand why Mr. H (he blew up at me in direct messages on Twitter yesterday which sparked that debunk video) and others feel the need to be skeptical and from my perspective, this is still super early and is a huge reason why nobody at Fox is confirming this to the community- because like AP pointed out above in my tweet this long-game stuff at the moment it's not something that is coming out in the next couple months or that is being previewed among the community websites- take it as you will, I post production/crew news on a daily basis, I don't waste my time on clickbait... anyways, I hope everyone has a lovely Valentine's Day."

TL;DR

The Isolation series is unrelated, two WIP series exist regardless.

Uhm... What?

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