Ridley Scott talks Prometheus

Started by Darkoo, Nov 07, 2011, 07:01:23 AM

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Michael Harper

Quote from: SHREK on Nov 07, 2011, 07:16:26 PM
Why cant he just say if it has aliens in it or not? i dont care about sigourney weaver or it being in 3D.. just want to the know the simple set of the movie i.e does it have xenomorphs in it or not

I doubt that the Alien (Xenomorph) will make an appearance. "DNA of Alien" is the phrase that has been thrown about most, and I think it means that literally.  Ridley says that in the final eight minutes, that the "DNA" will become apparent; this can mean a number of things. But, I personally think that we will have a glimpse perhaps of the Space Jockey in it's focialised state that we saw in Alien. And, if we're really lucky, maybe even a few of the Alien eggs.

But, I really do doubt that we're going to see a Xenomorph. And, I don't think it is necessary to include them. When you watch Alien, it is the tension and the progression of watching these characters slowly learn more about the Alien; of how it gestates within a human host after being impregnated by the Facehugger. And, after it has been born, it grows rapidly into the Xenomorph we know it as. If you were to include that specific Xenomorph, the one we know all too well, in a film set before Alien, then the entire point of the tension of Alien goes out the window.

Again, I wouldn't mind seeing the Space Jockey in it's final form, and the Alien eggs - but, I think that is all that is necessary. Then you can watch both Prometheus and Alien back-to-back, and get the full horror and mystery that was originally intended.

aliennaire

aliennaire

#31
To me, the phrase "The last eight minutes of the "Prometheus" story evolve into "a pretty good DNA of the 'Alien' one." has the sense, that last 8 minutes of Prometheus footage will be highly reminiscent and closely tied to the first Alien film, perhaps, with the scenery, conclusions or other hints, what means that Alien creature of Space Jockey wouldn't be blatantly shown into our face... Just some connotation of what have preceded the events of original Alien movie.

Engineer1

Engineer1

#32
Scott said there will be no alien per se, no xenomorph.
First because as an artist he wants to create something new.
Second he don't want to use a creature (or say that there is any alien even proto-aliens) that has lost a lot of it's charisma over the years with fox's AVP or Alien Resurection.
The average movie audience is no more exited by the idea of seeing an Alien movie.
The franchise is now in the same category as Saw, final destination etc... It's sometime ok but not near a big budget summer event.
It's a smart move from Scott to get the audience exited for a new universe and also to get a bigger Budget than what he could have with a straight prequel.

The DNA thingie will be the proto Xeno or Eggs.
I think maybe a hint at the Alien derelict and its Engineer.
(i think that we will see one or several Engineer's ships taking off at the end of Prometheus with their newly created bioweapon on route to clean up and conquer new worlds, one of them being the one woch crashed on LV426).
Just a nod nothing too obvious.

As for the CGI, maybe one should read the original article.
Scott says he had fun with the CGIs but he's done most of what he can live on set.
We know there are animatronics too. So yeah it's probably been his most heavy cgi movie ever but he still more inclined to use pratical effects when possible than go full CGI.
So no. No cgi fest.

Giger was a consultant on the movie, he did not created new creatures.
Nor the interiors of the Engineer's ship.
If you check closely the pictures you will see that it's less organic and more mechanical.
It keeps the general esthetic of Giger but it's not GIGER's.
He probably done some doodles, ideas and concepts wich were fine tuned by other artists.
I think tho that some past Gigers may have been used, for exemple the Engineer's design is probably inspired by his biomechanoids humanoids from Necronomicon (the now famous head leaves no doubt about it).
Carlos Huante did a long run on the movie, Martin Rezard too both on creatures.
Neville Page did costume designs not creatures.
I'm not going to be pissed if the creatures are not the creation of Giger, i trust Scott.
If he has seen something in some others artist that caught his eyes the way Giger did that fine by me.

Definitly a new monster will be shown at the end of the movie but i don't think we will have to wait until the end of the movie to see some weird shit. The first act will be about the humans, the exploration,the second about the Engineers, their civilization (and i hope their Homeworld) the climax will be about those new creatures.


Michael Harper

Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 07, 2011, 08:41:19 PM
Scott said there will be no alien per se, no xenomorph.
First because as an artist he wants to create something new.
Second he don't want to use a creature or say that there is any alien (even proto-aliens) bacause it has lost a lot of it's charisma over the years with fox's AVP or Alien Resurection.
The average movie audience is no more exited by the idea of seeing an Alien movie.
The franchise is now in the same category as Saw, final destination etc...
It's a smart move from Scott to get the audience exited for a new universe and also to get a bigger Budget than what he could have with a straight prequel.

The DNA thingie will be the proto Xeno or Eggs.

As for the CGI, maybe one should read the original article.
Scott says he had fun with the CGIs but he's done most of what he can live on set.
We know there are animatronics too.
So it's probably been his most heavy cgi movie he's done ever but he still more inclined to use pratical effects when possible than go full CGI.
So no. No cgi fest.

Giger was a consultant on the movie, he did not supervised the creatures.
Nor the interiors of the Engineer's ship.
If you check closely the pictures you will see that it's less organic and more mechanical.
It keeps the general esthetic of Giger but it's not GIGER's.
Carlos Huante did a long run on the movie, Martin Rezard too both on creatures.
Neville Page did costume designs not creatures.

Definitly a new monster will be shown at the end of the movie but before that we will have witnessed if i'm correct other strange and dangerous creatures. I don't think we will have to wait until the end of the movie to see some weird shit.
The first act will be about the humans, the exploration,the second about the Engineers, their civilization (and i hope their Homeworld) the climax will be about those new creatures.

Nicely said. Pretty much everything I was thinking.

wmmvrrvrrmm

wmmvrrvrrmm

#34
So, DNA is scriptwriter's speak generally means "core ideas"

Engineer1

Engineer1

#35
I think its both.
The core idea and the actual DNA that will lead to the xenos.

predxeno

predxeno

#36
Quote from: Engineer1 on Nov 07, 2011, 09:12:17 PM
I think its both.
The core idea and the actual DNA that will lead to the xenos.

Don't get your hopes up.

I've been saying for awhile that I've had serious doubts on whether or not this film will actually have an Alien in it; I guess more people are starting to agree with me now than to disagree. :D

Engineer1

Engineer1

#37
I'm not hoping for anything.
I have no doubt know that we wont see the xeno/alien in the form we've known.
We will get to see the proto xeno the original creatures that lead to the xenos or alien as you call them.
Scott made it clear very early :

Ridley,
Quote'The first one will always be the most frightening, because the beast we put together with Giger and all its parts -the facehugger, the chestburster, the egg- they were all totally original, and that's hard to follow ... I think, therefore, I have to design -or redesign- earlier versions of what these elements are that led to the thing you finally see in Alien, which is the thing that catapults out of the egg, the facehugger. I don't want to repeat it. The Alien in a sense, as a shape, is worn out.

ThisBethesdaSea

So much fuss about so little. Scott revealed pretty much nothing we've already heard. These dumb interviewers need to ask about a trailer.

Chris!(($$))!

I don't care if the movie directly has a Xenomorph in it or not but I certainly want it to connect with ALIEN as being a part of the same universe, maybe simply by having these "Engineers" be the Space Jockeys.

predxeno

predxeno

#40
Could people define "proto-xeno"?  Up to this point, I was under the impression that people on this forum considered this to be the "original" pure-breed Alien. (Something I disagree with as the EU seems to indicate that the proto-xenos look pretty much like the normal xenos)  Is this correct?

Chris!(($$))!

I've assumed when people say proto-Xenos they mean the protoype of the Xenomorphs or the organism that the Xenomorphs were based on or genetically altered on.

Engineer1

Engineer1

#42
When i say proto xeno, and i stress that it's MY take on the concept, i think about the original creatures that lead to the facehuggers and xenomorph that we know.

I don't know what the EU says (i never take whats coming from this as cannon usually save for details who were taken from the scripts and didt not made it into the movies) from Scott's pov the xenos are bioweapon created by the Engineers.
It's a safe bet to think that before the Xenos got their DNA mixed with others creatures there was a patient zero.
To me that is the proto xeno.

The Prometheus myth works great with a creature that rips the guts of it's victims but there's gotta be a twist.

I doubt that the final climax with the hint to ALIEN will only be 8mins.
I think the climax with the new creatures will be longer than that but in the final minutes we will see the hint to ALIEN.
Either the first Facehugger Egg either the derelict ship taking off with its cargo.

ThisBethesdaSea

I'd love to see a legit fan made image of a proto-xeno...let's see how authentically terrifying you can be with your ideas. :)

Engineer1

Engineer1

#44
I really have no idea what to expect from these new creatures.
All i know is that Carlos Huante is great at creating weird monsters and he had a lot of fun working with Scott, who had great ideas and concepts from what he said on his facebook page.

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