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Title: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 07:00:27 PM

The BBFC have officially rated AvPR as 15. No cuts have been made either and this is the same certificate as the first AvP. They also list the running time as 93m 37s. Presumably, that includes credits too.

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I’m very disappointed. I really thought it would have been a sure 18.

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Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Don Dorris on Dec 04, 2007, 05:49:13 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(
Who cares? Alien was re-released as 15 when the directors cut did its cinema rounds.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: chandoog on Dec 04, 2007, 05:49:25 PM
UK getting a neutered version of the movie ?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Horhey on Dec 04, 2007, 05:49:29 PM
So, does this mean its gonna be a sanitized version?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 05:50:49 PM
It says it was passed with no cuts
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Norwegian_Plague on Dec 04, 2007, 05:57:16 PM
Hehe, I'm looking forward to seeing the rating here.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: inkedcraig on Dec 04, 2007, 06:13:10 PM
They would of taken into account the amount of human related deaths ect.

As this is more creature based the rating would of not been an 18. We know what to expect from this movie, nothings been cut.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: AVP66 on Dec 04, 2007, 06:17:36 PM
I am pleased that it is a 15 in the UK because I will be able to see it now.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: nukem11 on Dec 04, 2007, 06:19:51 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(

I thought AVP was a 12a.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:21:40 PM
No it wasn't, 15 all the way.

f**k yeah! I'm allowed to see it, January 18th will be the happiest day of my life!

Oh yeah, and 300 was "gory" and it still got a 15, so was Doom, and both had nudity!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: inkedcraig on Dec 04, 2007, 06:22:40 PM
just looked at my dvd, it is indeed a 15. iam now worried
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:25:00 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(

f**k sake.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Helikaon on Dec 04, 2007, 06:31:40 PM
Oh thank Jesus... I can actually watch this in cinemas

It probably would have been out of our cinemas by the time I turned 18 (28th Feb)

I think it's something to do with the US rating dealie, theres like R and then NC-17, NC-17 I think is equal to our 18 rating but R is considered an 18 over there and isn't quite equal to anything over here.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Don Dorris on Dec 04, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Why are people bothered? We already know it's gory and has bad language. Are people angry purely because of the label 15? If so, that's ridiculous.

As I said, Alien was 15 when it was in cinemas a few years ago. We're getting the same film in all its adult detail. If it was exactly the same cut but someone randomly decided to give it an 18 it would make no difference.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Weasel on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
I'm learning a lot of people on the forums are under 17 lol.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Cereal Killer on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:49 PM
Man thats crap. Always the same prob cut too death.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Helikaon on Dec 04, 2007, 06:41:12 PM
They said they haven't cut it

The BBFC isn't allowed to lie...

Of course they could recall the rating and then cut it down to a 12A...
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 06:41:54 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 04, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Why are people bothered? We already know it's gory and has bad language. Are people angry purely because of the label 15? If so, that's ridiculous.

As I said, Alien was 15 when it was in cinemas a few years ago. We're getting the same film in all its adult detail. If it was exactly the same cut but someone randomly decided to give it an 18 it would make no difference.

Alien hardly has any gore in, what do you expect?

The Predator movies would be an 18 even if they came out now.

Quote from: Weasel on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
I'm learning a lot of people on the forums are under 17 lol.

Same here. It's pretty sad that people are only interested in being old enough to see it.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:42:30 PM
No, no it isn't. Read the damn thread.

The uk has totally different age ratings.


We don't have "R"

The matrix was a 15 here, but my Matrix poster clearly says "rated R" on it.


I'm fine with this rating, Alien is a 15 (sadly so was avp) at least this means i can go and see it in the cinema now... :\ meh, you people in america arn't affected so i don't see why you should care.

Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 06:41:54 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 04, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Why are people bothered? We already know it's gory and has bad language. Are people angry purely because of the label 15? If so, that's ridiculous.

As I said, Alien was 15 when it was in cinemas a few years ago. We're getting the same film in all its adult detail. If it was exactly the same cut but someone randomly decided to give it an 18 it would make no difference.

Alien hardly has any gore in, what do you expect?

The Predator movies would be an 18 even if they came out now.

Quote from: Weasel on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
I'm learning a lot of people on the forums are under 17 lol.

Same here. It's pretty sad that people are only interested in being old enough to see it.

Alien? Hardley any gore?

The chestbursting scene alone is worse than Saw. And that was an 18...

Ratings don't always depend on the level of gore alone.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:44:32 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:42:30 PM
No, no it isn't. Read the damn thread.

The uk has totally different age ratings.


We don't have "R"

The matrix was a 15 here, but my Matrix poster clearly says "rated R" on it.


I'm fine with this rating, Alien is a 15 (sadly so was avp) at least this means i can go and see it in the cinema now... :\ meh, you people in america arn't affected so i don't see why you should care.



I could easily get into a 18, but this news just has an 'AVP' round 2 feel to it.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Cereal Killer on Dec 04, 2007, 06:44:59 PM
I think terminator 3 was a 12a here and R there.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:45:10 PM
I'm glad I'm not interested in seeing it just because I'm old enough, I just want to see it because of "the experience", and also it would be my second time in the cinema.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: XxSaNdMaNxX on Dec 04, 2007, 06:45:49 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(

Woow darkness that really blows horse ass man but just wait and see man dont let that kill the hype bro....
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:44:32 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:42:30 PM
No, no it isn't. Read the damn thread.

The uk has totally different age ratings.


We don't have "R"

The matrix was a 15 here, but my Matrix poster clearly says "rated R" on it.


I'm fine with this rating, Alien is a 15 (sadly so was avp) at least this means i can go and see it in the cinema now... :\ meh, you people in america arn't affected so i don't see why you should care.



I could easily get into a 18, but this news just has an 'AVP' round 2 feel to it.


I'm 16, I wouldn't be able to get into an 18... The odeon cinema is right across the road from me, they'd probably let me in, since they're losing customers to the new "Vue" cinema. I personally want to go to the Vue, nicer chairs, better quality, AWESOME sound. I'm happy i wont have to wait for a shitty rental copy or watch it online in a small streaming window...

This new rating has actually made me more excited for the movie, since theres no cuts, and it's exactly the same as what everyone else is watching with their "hard R" ratings, it's just that i can actually see it.  :D
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Helikaon on Dec 04, 2007, 06:50:40 PM
QuoteSame here. It's pretty sad that people are only interested in being old enough to see it.

Sorry for being born late ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:52:20 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:44:32 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:42:30 PM
No, no it isn't. Read the damn thread.

The uk has totally different age ratings.


We don't have "R"

The matrix was a 15 here, but my Matrix poster clearly says "rated R" on it.


I'm fine with this rating, Alien is a 15 (sadly so was avp) at least this means i can go and see it in the cinema now... :\ meh, you people in america arn't affected so i don't see why you should care.



I could easily get into a 18, but this news just has an 'AVP' round 2 feel to it.


I'm 16, I wouldn't be able to get into an 18... The odeon cinema is right across the road from me, they'd probably let me in, since they're losing customers to the new "Vue" cinema. I personally want to go to the Vue, nicer chairs, better quality, AWESOME sound. I'm happy i wont have to wait for a shitty rental copy or watch it online in a small streaming window...

This new rating has actually made me more excited for the movie, since theres no cuts, and it's exactly the same as what everyone else is watching with their "hard R" ratings, it's just that i can actually see it.  :D

I'm 16 as well.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:53:54 PM
Like one of my friends your probably bigger, and look older than you really are.  ;)

I on the other hand, bleh. Although i could probably make myself look 17 ish if i tried.


Just checked a calendar on the pc, if the expected release date of the 18th stays on, then it will open on friday, should be able to go on the opening day that way. Huzzah.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
If you consider 5'10 "big" and shaves, then I'm lucky, no?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:44 PM
Like Darkness, I was sure it was gonna be rated '18'. It's really bemusing, because the general gist I get from this film is that it's f**king hardcore, but it gets the same rating as AvP...

And AvP is one of the most gore-lite, non-swearing 15-certificate films of all time.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: avpmad! on Dec 04, 2007, 06:56:44 PM
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow





18th jan happest day of my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:57:20 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:53:54 PM
Like one of my friends your probably bigger, and look older than you really are.  ;)

I on the other hand, bleh. Although i could probably make myself look 17 ish if i tried.

That's me.

It probably means you'll be bigger than most when your 18.  :D
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
If you consider 5'10 "big" and shaves, then I'm lucky, no?

6'2" "big" and shaves.  :P

Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: avpmad! on Dec 04, 2007, 06:58:53 PM
i could make myself look 18, and im 15, i was growing a beard so i could get into see avp2 but now i dont need 2 wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow ;D
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Don Dorris on Dec 04, 2007, 06:59:30 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 06:41:54 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 04, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Why are people bothered? We already know it's gory and has bad language. Are people angry purely because of the label 15? If so, that's ridiculous.

As I said, Alien was 15 when it was in cinemas a few years ago. We're getting the same film in all its adult detail. If it was exactly the same cut but someone randomly decided to give it an 18 it would make no difference.

Alien hardly has any gore in, what do you expect?

The Predator movies would be an 18 even if they came out now.

You're right, Alien doesn't have that much gore in it. But it's generally considered to be the best of the franchise. So where's the problem?

As for Predator. Hasn't the general consensus been that AvPR is gorier than Predator?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Master Chief on Dec 04, 2007, 07:01:43 PM
^ It has more gore than both Predators combined.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:03:42 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Dec 04, 2007, 07:01:43 PM
^ It has more gore than both Predators combined.

But Chief, is that a good thing?

(I have to call you Chief, it makes me feel like one of the hapless Marines that follow you round in the Campaign).  :P
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Tun on Dec 04, 2007, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
I'm learning a lot of people on the forums are under 17 lol.
Yeah I feel old all the sudden. people always told me I'd get old too one day. never believed them.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 07:04:34 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:57:20 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:53:54 PM
Like one of my friends your probably bigger, and look older than you really are.  ;)

I on the other hand, bleh. Although i could probably make myself look 17 ish if i tried.

That's me.

It probably means you'll be bigger than most when your 18.  :D
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
If you consider 5'10 "big" and shaves, then I'm lucky, no?

6'2" "big" and shaves.  :P


Ahhh f**k, I'm still tall though :D And I'm getting a goatee(It might be full by January)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:06:14 PM
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 07:04:34 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:57:20 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:53:54 PM
Like one of my friends your probably bigger, and look older than you really are.  ;)

I on the other hand, bleh. Although i could probably make myself look 17 ish if i tried.

That's me.

It probably means you'll be bigger than most when your 18.  :D
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
If you consider 5'10 "big" and shaves, then I'm lucky, no?

6'2" "big" and shaves.  :P


Ahhh f**k, I'm still tall though :D And I'm getting a goatee(It might be full by January)

I like to have a little stubble, nothing more.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:06:14 PM
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 07:04:34 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:57:20 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:53:54 PM
Like one of my friends your probably bigger, and look older than you really are.  ;)

I on the other hand, bleh. Although i could probably make myself look 17 ish if i tried.

That's me.

It probably means you'll be bigger than most when your 18.  :D
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
If you consider 5'10 "big" and shaves, then I'm lucky, no?

6'2" "big" and shaves.  :P


Ahhh f**k, I'm still tall though :D And I'm getting a goatee(It might be full by January)

I like to have a little stubble, nothing more.
I always wanted a goatee, like Christian Bale in the Machinist, only a little bit more trimmed. :P
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Master Chief on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:03:42 PM
But Chief, is that a good thing?

(I have to call you Chief, it makes me feel like one of the hapless Marines that follow you round in the Campaign).  :P

You once asked me if more gore was a good thing.  Only to some Aeus, only to some...(With the MC voice)  ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Sheriff Eddie Morales on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:40 PM
UK are screwed!
They will get more of the "AvP 1" dose. ;D
What we will get is the really hardcore AvP R . ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Helikaon on Dec 04, 2007, 07:18:35 PM
None of the film has been cut ffs
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:19:05 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:03:42 PM
But Chief, is that a good thing?

(I have to call you Chief, it makes me feel like one of the hapless Marines that follow you round in the Campaign).  :P

You once asked me if more gore was a good thing.  Only to some Aeus, only to some...(With the MC voice)  ;)
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Dutch Schaefer on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:40 PM
UK are screwed!
They will get more of the "AvP 1" dose. ;D
What we will get is the really hardcore AvP R . ;)

Wait, if the R in AVPR is basically there to show the rating, will we have AVP15?  :P


Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Commander Aun on Dec 04, 2007, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:03:42 PM
But Chief, is that a good thing?

(I have to call you Chief, it makes me feel like one of the hapless Marines that follow you round in the Campaign).  :P

You once asked me if more gore was a good thing.  Only to some Aeus, only to some...(With the MC voice)  ;)

Of course, since you kick Covenant ass every single second of every single day lol
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 07:20:22 PM
^Private Zim does that as well :D

Quote from: Helikaon on Dec 04, 2007, 07:18:35 PM
None of the film has been cut ffs
I wanted to say it!

Maybe the fifteen is because of the CGI blood?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:11 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.

Do you know the reasoning for it being 15 in the UK?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Commander Aun on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:17 PM
Yes, loads of acid and predator blood spitting everywhere is very violent ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 07:23:31 PM
Quote from: Dutch Schaefer on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:40 PM
UK are screwed!
They will get more of the "AvP 1" dose. ;D
What we will get is the really hardcore AvP R . ;)

Yes the really hardcore R... Which you can't go and see without a parent. lawl.

Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:11 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.

Do you know the reasoning for it being 15 in the UK?

I don't know. I would say the movie is about as gory as Predator 1, so I'm not sure why the rating is at 15.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 07:26:25 PM
Cgi blood most probably.


One of the main reasons why 300 was a 15.


Another note:

Team america was a 15 in the UK. Because it used puppets instead of real people.
Maybe it's the same here, aliens and predators.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Commander Aun on Dec 04, 2007, 07:28:48 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:11 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.

Do you know the reasoning for it being 15 in the UK?

I don't know. I would say the movie is about as gory as Predator 1, so I'm not sure why the rating is at 15.

To me thats not that gory. That could easily be withstood, as its an M in DVD's these days.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:29:44 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:11 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.

Do you know the reasoning for it being 15 in the UK?

I don't know. I would say the movie is about as gory as Predator 1, so I'm not sure why the rating is at 15.

Guess I'll see in January. I think the film would have to be in the ranks of Hostel or Saw to get an 18 in the UK. I guess that's what it's come to these days.

Although I felt more sick in the Redband trailer (acid face burn) than I did in saw. I thought that was disgustingly realistic. But after watching it 10,000,000 times it's now fine.  :P
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:29:53 PM
The gore in Predator is pretty tasteful in my opinion, the only thing that really made an impact in terms of gore was the skinned/gutted corpses of Hopper's team and Billy's spine rip.  Considering we have all these "torture porn" movies out at the moment, if AVP-R is on the same level of gore as Predator then I think a 15 rating is about right.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:32:33 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:29:53 PM
The gore in Predator is pretty tasteful in my opinion, the only thing that really made an impact in terms of gore was the skinned/gutted corpses of Hopper's team and Billy's spine rip.  Considering we have all these "torture porn" movies out at the moment, if AVP-R is on the same level of gore as Predator then I think a 15 rating is about right.

The spine rip is so well done. I hope there is one in AVPR.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:34:13 PM
Now that I think about that scene in particular, Predator may have recieved a higher rating due to violence against vultures.  I wonder if Bill Duke really kicked one.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Commander Aun on Dec 04, 2007, 07:35:33 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:32:33 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:29:53 PM
The gore in Predator is pretty tasteful in my opinion, the only thing that really made an impact in terms of gore was the skinned/gutted corpses of Hopper's team and Billy's spine rip.  Considering we have all these "torture porn" movies out at the moment, if AVP-R is on the same level of gore as Predator then I think a 15 rating is about right.

The spine rip is so well done. I hope there is one in AVPR.

Lets hope theres lots of glove action.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:34:13 PM
Now that I think about that scene in particular, Predator may have recieved a higher rating due to violence against vultures.  I wonder if Bill Duke really kicked one.

It looked legit to me.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Commander Aun on Dec 04, 2007, 07:38:52 PM
Just as long as its a good avp film, its rating doesnt matter much...........well sort of.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 04, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
One question: does Rated 15 allow kids in with parental supervision like the R rating over here, or is it strictly 15+? The way some people make it sound, they might not even get to see it due to their country's strict rating system and their age.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 08:22:24 PM
The ratings in the UK are fairly strict AFAIK, even if you are with an adult or guardian you will not be able to see this film if you are under the age of 15/18.  The only rating that has any leeway is the 12a rating.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: BUGZ on Dec 04, 2007, 08:26:10 PM
Sheesh - and here was me looking forward to a kid free zone at the cinema!!  ::)

Bri :-\
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Dec 04, 2007, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(

Oh god damn it. Not on frontpage?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 08:27:54 PM
so thei hasnt been any cuts in it, but does this mean they've digitally removed blood, changed the color or whatever.

Hope not  :(
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(

dont worry about it mate look at other horros that are 15 like land of the dead and 30 days of nights, they said its not going to be a saw movie.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: beeko on Dec 04, 2007, 08:35:31 PM
dont stress colin has already said there is only 1 cut, remember the UK is less conservative than the US
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 08:36:57 PM
AvP got 15 and i dont know how lol
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 04, 2007, 08:38:11 PM
Anyone else notice that it says that the movie is going to be 93 mins long?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 04, 2007, 08:39:24 PM
That's because that's how long it is.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 04, 2007, 08:39:24 PM
That's because that's how long it is.

And it sucks ape balls.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 04, 2007, 08:39:24 PM
That's because that's how long it is.

And it sucks ape balls.

Like tim burton ?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Helikaon on Dec 04, 2007, 08:46:00 PM
QuoteAnd it sucks ape balls.

1 hour 30 sucks balls? What are you expecting a 3 hour LOTR-esque mega bash? it's a pretty low budget film...

Quoteso thei hasnt been any cuts in it, but does this mean they've digitally removed blood, changed the color or whatever.

Thats what cutting means, they haven't forced the directors to remove anything
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: War Wager on Dec 04, 2007, 08:50:13 PM
Well good thing for me about a 15 rating is that I can just walk in. Bad and worsed thing is that it probably won't be as realsistc as it should be.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 08:58:27 PM
How in the living shit is this a 15s? its gore sick human gore, worst than some 18s films, ware's Colin, as something been changed, have they toned it down or something? 
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:01:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 08:58:27 PM
How in the living shit is this a 15s? its gore sick human gore, worst than some 18s films, ware's Colin, as something been changed, have they toned it down or something? 


things have changed in the uk look at 30 days of nights and land of the dead.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 04, 2007, 09:09:02 PM
CGI gore has much less impact than practical gore. They do take that stuff into consideration.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
this is shit news, I have always wanted to watch an alien and predator film in the cinemas that was an 18 and now that I have past that age they turn it into a 15, stupid BBFC, oh great, that means there will be kids seeing this and more annoying kiddie fans  >:(
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 04, 2007, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
this is shit news, I have always wanted to watch an alien and predator film in the cinemas that was an 18 and now that I have past that age they turn it into a 15, stupid BBFC, oh great, that means there will be kids seeing this and more annoying kiddie fans  >:(

This is what the whole concept is geared towards.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
this is shit news, I have always wanted to watch an alien and predator film in the cinemas that was an 18 and now that I have past that age they turn it into a 15, stupid BBFC, oh great, that means there will be kids seeing this and more annoying kiddie fans  >:(

i think aliens would make a 15 now if it was made now.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:18:15 PM
"And on the sixth day FOX made the AVP franchise 15." - The Bible: According to 20th Century Fox
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 04, 2007, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
this is shit news, I have always wanted to watch an alien and predator film in the cinemas that was an 18 and now that I have past that age they turn it into a 15, stupid BBFC, oh great, that means there will be kids seeing this and more annoying kiddie fans  >:(

This is what the whole concept is geared towards.

But for once it isn't FOX, its the weird people at BBFC, what do you have to do to make a film 18s these days, kill a man on screen, film a real rape, what? its annoying, if I were Colin I would be so pissed off.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
Yeah you're right, but even more in JP:TLW.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
Yeah you're right, but even more in JP:TLW.

yeah i could not believe it when i saw that bloke get eaten by the T rexs how they got away with that i dont know .
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:28:42 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
Yeah you're right, but even more in JP:TLW.

yeah i could not believe it when i saw that bloke get eaten by the T rexs how they got away with that i dont know .

Spielberg's magic words, he just used the Jedi mind trick on the film age certificate people.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 09:39:05 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.

What? Brett's death is much more bloody than the hole Jurassic Park.

Anywas the rating is 15? I find it strange. That means Colin there will be no child burst, nasty gory human deaths and other brutal stuffs...like the pregnant woman's death?  ??? Im worried and i think im not the only one.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:47:27 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 09:39:05 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.

What? Brett's death is much more bloody than the hole Jurassic Park.

Anywas the rating is 15? I find it strange. That means Colin there will be no child burst, nasty gory human deaths and other brutal stuffs...like the pregnant woman's death?  ??? Im worried and i think im not the only one.


We will see that, nothing as been cut from the movie, no changes, its the same cut all over, its just the BBFC wants more gore to be 18
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:28:42 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:24:14 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
Yeah you're right, but even more in JP:TLW.

yeah i could not believe it when i saw that bloke get eaten by the T rexs how they got away with that i dont know .

Spielberg's magic words, he just used the Jedi mind trick on the film age certificate people.
GL uses Jedi mind tricks.

Spielberg threatens to kill the film age certificate people with his truck when they drive home.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 09:39:05 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.

What? Brett's death is much more bloody than the hole Jurassic Park.

Anywas the rating is 15? I find it strange. That means Colin there will be no child burst, nasty gory human deaths and other brutal stuffs...like the pregnant woman's death?  ??? Im worried and i think im not the only one.



yup
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: TheUrbanPredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(

I'm pleased and pissed off at the same time. Cos now, I'll be able to see it, but it won't be as gory as in other countries, or is it the same?

Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:21:40 PM
No it wasn't, 15 all the way.

f**k yeah! I'm allowed to see it, January 18th will be the happiest day of my life!

Oh yeah, and 300 was "gory" and it still got a 15, so was Doom, and both had nudity!

Doom had nudity in it? Which part?  ???
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 10:03:45 PM
Colin What's the situation with those gory scenes? Are they still in the movie?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:04:53 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 10:03:45 PM
Colin What's the situation with those gory scenes? Are they still in the movie?

look in this thread he has already commented
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:08:57 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:11 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.

Do you know the reasoning for it being 15 in the UK?

I don't know. I would say the movie is about as gory as Predator 1, so I'm not sure why the rating is at 15.

See, even Colin is confused. 
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:09:49 PM
Jesus titty f**king christ.

This film was passed

WITH

NO

CUTS

MADE.

Read.
Comprehend.
Respond.

OK now that I've cleared up that little gem;

QuoteSheesh - and here was me looking forward to a kid free zone at the cinema!!

Yeah this is the only thing that annoys me.  IF I decide to see this at the cinema I am going during the week and/or at a very late showing so there will hopefully be no school kinds.  I havn't been able to see a film rated below 18 recently without school kids acting like retards in the cinema.  There are always a few token morons whenever you go to the cinema but the chances are much higher the lower the rating.

Also:  I don't understand the big deal about wanting to see an 18 rated film. Unless you're actually underage and wanted to feel hardcore by sneaking in, seeing an 18 rated film is not a big deal for people.  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:11:19 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:09:49 PM
Jesus titty f**king christ.

This film was passed

WITH

NO

CUTS

MADE.

Read.
Comprehend.
Respond.

OK now that I've cleared up that little gem;

QuoteSheesh - and here was me looking forward to a kid free zone at the cinema!!

Yeah this is the only thing that annoys me.  IF I decide to see this at the cinema I am going during the week and/or at a very late showing so there will hopefully be no school kinds.  I havn't been able to see a film rated below 18 recently without school kids acting like retards in the cinema.  There are always a few token morons whenever you go to the cinema but the chances are much higher the lower the rating.

Also:  I don't understand the big deal about wanting to see an 18 rated film. Unless you're actually underage and wanted to feel hardcore by sneaking in, seeing an 18 rated film is not a big deal for people.  

agreed
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:14:19 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:11:19 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:09:49 PM
Jesus titty f**king christ.

This film was passed

WITH

NO

CUTS

MADE.

Read.
Comprehend.
Respond.

OK now that I've cleared up that little gem;

QuoteSheesh - and here was me looking forward to a kid free zone at the cinema!!

Yeah this is the only thing that annoys me.  IF I decide to see this at the cinema I am going during the week and/or at a very late showing so there will hopefully be no school kinds.  I havn't been able to see a film rated below 18 recently without school kids acting like retards in the cinema.  There are always a few token morons whenever you go to the cinema but the chances are much higher the lower the rating.

Also:  I don't understand the big deal about wanting to see an 18 rated film. Unless you're actually underage and wanted to feel hardcore by sneaking in, seeing an 18 rated film is not a big deal for people.  

agreed

Hopefully their wont be any dicks at the midnight showing
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 10:16:20 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:04:53 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 10:03:45 PM
Colin What's the situation with those gory scenes? Are they still in the movie?

look in this thread he has already commented


He told: "There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide."

                                                        and

            "I don't know. I would say the movie is about as gory as Predator 1, so I'm not sure   
              why the rating is at 15. "


That doesn't mean they can't cut the final version at the last moment.

And he told the movie is gory as PRedator 1. What we heard and saw AvPR is more bloody movie than Alien 4. Alien 4 is 100 times more bloody than Predator 1. So i don't know. Im very confused.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:17:35 PM
Judging from what we've seen so far I don't think Colin has actually seen any of the alien movies, which is why he didn't use them as a point of reference.

Zing.

Sorry it was too easy.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:18:43 PM
saving private ryan was 15
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:22:22 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:18:43 PM
saving private ryan was 15

Good point calming down abit now  :)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: justaguy on Dec 04, 2007, 10:26:14 PM
To be fair people if the film includes all the red band trailer footage who cares if it's a 15 cos we're still gonna get all the stuff we want so i don't see the need for bitching.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 04, 2007, 10:27:28 PM
I dont know about the rating system in the UK, but we in germany just got confirmed that it will be FSK: 18.
So its on the same level as the predator movies and surpasses the 16 alien movies.
The red band trailer has more gore in it then alien and aliens together. Im happy that it will have the same amount of gore as predator one, i like sick shit.
Predator is not in the regular commerce here because its very brutal, even Saw and hostel and films like that are not as forbidden as predator here. I hope same goes for avp-r, i love movies that are not so Trendy.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:27:55 PM
I just hope that people in the cinemas complain about the violence, knocking the movie up to an 18s  ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Spectre on Dec 04, 2007, 10:28:09 PM
Main reason for this 15 is there is prolly more pred and alien gore than anything else :-\
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:29:36 PM
Quote from: Dragon-Pred on Dec 04, 2007, 10:28:09 PM
Main reason for this 15 is there is prolly more pred and alien gore than anything else :-\

true, censors just dont like the colour red
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: pred_warrior07 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagecache2.allposters.com%2Fimages%2Fpic%2FATA%2F24818BP%7EThe-Simpsons-Nelson-Haha-Posters.jpg&hash=73da8b568e92361a4c3d1462f2516837784d26aa)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: pred_warrior07 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ATA/24818BP~The-Simpsons-Nelson-Haha-Posters.jpg

i fell off my chair  :D

but that fits better for teenager topic, really :D
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: pred_warrior07 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ATA/24818BP~The-Simpsons-Nelson-Haha-Posters.jpg

What?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Yautja on Dec 04, 2007, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:29:36 PM
Quote from: Dragon-Pred on Dec 04, 2007, 10:28:09 PM
Main reason for this 15 is there is prolly more pred and alien gore than anything else :-\

true, censors just dont like the colour red

But from the trailers and Fangoria pic's, there is plenty of Human blood. I mean, look at the intestines of the women on the floor and the two heads getting blown off with the duel cannon's.

It's strange that it wasnt rated 18.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:33:18 PM
QuoteI just hope that people in the cinemas complain about the violence, knocking the movie up to an 18s  

Your profile says your 21.  What satisfaction is there to be had from watching an 18 rated film at your age?

QuoteI hope same goes for avp-r, i love movies that are not so Trendy.

AVP-R is attempting to appeal to an audience of 2-3 franchises (if you consider the AVP franchise as a 3rd entity) so of course it's going to be "trendy", it has a HUGE demographic to bring in.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 10:36:12 PM
Quote from: WeaponX on Dec 04, 2007, 10:32:37 PM
But from the trailers and Fangoria pic's, there is plenty of Human blood. I mean, look at the intestines of the women on the floor and the two heads getting blown off with the duel cannon's.
It's strange that it wasnt rated 18.

Doom had guy, who cracked his skull open on the window glass, the other one teared his ear in fron of everyone, and a lot more. and there were f-bombs everywhere too. and it still was rated 15. conclude ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:38:36 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:33:18 PM
QuoteI just hope that people in the cinemas complain about the violence, knocking the movie up to an 18s 

Your profile says your 21.  What satisfaction is there to be had from watching an 18 rated film at your age?

QuoteI hope same goes for avp-r, i love movies that are not so Trendy.

AVP-R is attempting to appeal to an audience of 2-3 franchises (if you consider the AVP franchise as a 3rd entity) so of course it's going to be "trendy", it has a HUGE demographic to bring in.

Yeah I am 21, but I have always wanted to see an 18 alien and predator film in the cinemas, since the age of 8, but when I got to 18, AVP 1 was 15 and I was hoping AVP-R wouldn't, think of all the annoying new kids that will see this film and get the wrong idea about these type of movies, because AVP-R might be there 1st alien or predator film. 
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:39:51 PM
You can drop quite a few "F-Bombs" as long as they're not used in a sexual context.  IE you can shout stuff like "Get the f**k out of here!" or "OH f**k!" but you can't say "I want to f**k you" or "motherf**ker".  This is because sex is the Devil and our children must be sheilded from it at all costs.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 10:45:29 PM
There is one thing! And this is a fact! In England almost always has a different movie version. An example: Star Wars Episode 2, Predator 1-2 DVD. The censors always edit the movies and cut out the gory scenes.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Tun on Dec 04, 2007, 10:47:47 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(
I'm a bit confused cause I think I've heard a few different things. anyone know if the 94 minutes is with or without credits?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: dale07 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:48:59 PM
Am not to fussed cuz now i can go see it in the cinemas ;D
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:51:43 PM
QuoteThere is one thing! And this is a fact! In England almost always has a different movie version. An example: Star Wars Episode 2, Predator 1-2 DVD. The censors always edit the movies and cut out the gory scenes.

Star Wars Episode 2 was edited because of a headbutt.  For some reason Headbutting is a huge issue with the BBFC.  I have both Predator and Predator 2 on DVD and I havn't noticed any editing.  I have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
I think this is the shortest of all the alien and predator films  :o
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:53:06 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:51:43 PM
QuoteThere is one thing! And this is a fact! In England almost always has a different movie version. An example: Star Wars Episode 2, Predator 1-2 DVD. The censors always edit the movies and cut out the gory scenes.

Star Wars Episode 2 was edited because of a headbutt.  For some reason Headbutting is a huge issue with the BBFC.  I have both Predator and Predator 2 on DVD and I havn't noticed any editing.  I have no idea what you're talking about.

didnt you get predator when it first came out on dvd? , it was cut to ribbons, fox made a mistake lol i still have it too
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
I think this is the shortest of all the alien and predator films  :o

joe pesci's short, you wouldnt mess with him    :D ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:23 PM
Quote from: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
I think this is the shortest of all the alien and predator films  :o

joe pesci's short, you wouldnt mess with him    :D ;)

I think hes funny... ;D
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:53:06 PM

didnt you get predator when it first came out on dvd? , it was cut to ribbons, fox made a mistake lol i still have it too

No I waited for the special editions.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:59:41 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:53:06 PM

didnt you get predator when it first came out on dvd? , it was cut to ribbons, fox made a mistake lol i still have it too

No I waited for the special editions.

mate if u get the chance get it for the laugh, i was like wtf.. lol
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:00:35 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:59:41 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:53:06 PM

didnt you get predator when it first came out on dvd? , it was cut to ribbons, fox made a mistake lol i still have it too

No I waited for the special editions.

mate if u get the chance get it for the laugh, i was like wtf.. lol

How bad is it, any screen examples?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:00:49 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:51:43 PM
QuoteThere is one thing! And this is a fact! In England almost always has a different movie version. An example: Star Wars Episode 2, Predator 1-2 DVD. The censors always edit the movies and cut out the gory scenes.

Star Wars Episode 2 was edited because of a headbutt.  For some reason Headbutting is a huge issue with the BBFC.  I have both Predator and Predator 2 on DVD and I havn't noticed any editing.  I have no idea what you're talking about.

First DVD relase not the SE. The Se is not edited of course.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 11:01:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:00:35 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:59:41 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:53:06 PM

didnt you get predator when it first came out on dvd? , it was cut to ribbons, fox made a mistake lol i still have it too

No I waited for the special editions.


mate if u get the chance get it for the laugh, i was like wtf.. lol

How bad is it, any screen examples?
put it this way all the gore was taken out even when dutch knifed that bloke and said stick around that was out here it is any how http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PREDATOR-1-2-BOX-SET-Ltd-Edition-18-cert_W0QQitemZ290187202981QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2288QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 11:02:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:23 PM
Quote from: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
I think this is the shortest of all the alien and predator films  :o

joe pesci's short, you wouldnt mess with him    :D ;)

I think hes funny... ;D

Oh yeah he's funny but also scary
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:06:13 PM
But this is still Strange.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

This work was passed with no cuts made!

So what the hell is that? This is say no cuts made and the movie is 15 and Colin told us  there is only one version being shown word wide. Now what?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Dec 04, 2007, 11:07:58 PM
Why is it so hard to believe that the movie is violent and bloody, but got a 15 certificate?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 11:09:02 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 04, 2007, 11:07:58 PM
Why is it so hard to believe that the movie is violent and bloody, but got a 15 certificate?

i know they boring me now to be honest.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:10:00 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:06:13 PM
But this is still Strange.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

This work was passed with no cuts made!

So what the hell is that? This is say no cuts made and the movie is 15 and Colin told us  there is only one version being shown word wide. Now what?

Its all the same version, its just the UK BBFC thinks this film should be a 15 and the USA thinks its should be an R rated movie is all.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:11:20 PM
It's pretty obvious.  The BBFC does not believe that the film warrants an 18 certificate.  We probably will see a lot of blood but besides a chestbursting or 2 and the skinned bodies I doubt we'll see anything overly visceral.  Context is a huge issue that needs to be taken into consideration.  For example a guy smashing someone's head open with a rock would be more offensive than an alien headbiting someone because it's more "real".
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM

I am unfamiliar with UK ratings but this doesn't make sense.   If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:13:45 PM
Headbutting women and children.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Gates on Dec 04, 2007, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM

I am unfamiliar with UK ratings but this doesn't make sense.   If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?

I agree...I've always known that the UK in general is more lax when it come to violence, but a child chestbursting should really qualify as an 18...doesn't make sense...
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:17:59 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:10:00 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:06:13 PM
But this is still Strange.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

This work was passed with no cuts made!

So what the hell is that? This is say no cuts made and the movie is 15 and Colin told us  there is only one version being shown word wide. Now what?

Its all the same version, its just the UK BBFC thinks this film should be a 15 and the USA thinks its should be an R rated movie is all.

This is just doesn't make any sense! Rated 15 and there is no way there will be brutal chestburst from the kid and also there is no way we can see the pregnant woman's death in full glory! etc. etc. What kind of logic is this?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:18:29 PM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM

I am unfamiliar with UK ratings but this doesn't make sense.   If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?

scenes with gays and lesbians. hard to belive? heh.

and as for mpaa ratings i recomend for everybody 'this film has not been rated' documentary, very interesting.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: Gates on Dec 04, 2007, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM

I am unfamiliar with UK ratings but this doesn't make sense.   If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?

I agree...I've always known that the UK in general is more lax when it come to violence, but a child chestbursting should really qualify as an 18...doesn't make sense...

I agree! Very-very STRANGE!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:22:23 PM
Stop replying to yourself, tool.

It's really not all that strange.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:24:05 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:22:23 PM
Stop replying to yourself, tool.

It's really not all that strange.

don't encourage them  :-X
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:27:15 PM
If you read the BBFC website, an 18 rating is only given in the most extreme circumstances EG. glamorising drugs/violence/explicit sex.  Having an extremely bloody and violent movie will still only get you a 15 certificate as long as the pain, suffering and infliction is not lingered on and is not glorified.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:28:00 PM

I've seen the film so you don't have be ironic with your bold STRANGE.   I've also seen the documentary on the MPAA which was only halfway entertaining.  Anyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.   I think it's gore level is more on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3 than OG Predator.  No offense Colin.  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Otnip on Dec 04, 2007, 11:29:33 PM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:28:00 PM

I've seen the film so you don't have be ironic with your bold STRANGE.   I've also seen the documentary on the MPAA which was only halfway entertaining.  Anyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.   I think it's gore level is more on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3 than OG Predator.  No offense Colin. 

It is an opinion, I wouldn't be angry
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 11:29:53 PM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:28:00 PM

I've seen the film so you don't have be ironic with your bold STRANGE.   I've also seen the documentary on the MPAA which was only halfway entertaining.  Anyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.   I think it's gore level is more on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3 than OG Predator.  No offense Colin. 

Maybe I'm just getting numb to it, but I would agree that the movie has some f**ked up scenes in that would should be above the 15 rating. Oh well.... I guess that's better for us because it means more people can see the film in the theaters.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PM
QuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. 

The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.

Quoted directly from the BBFC website;

Quotewhere material or treatment appears to the Board to risk harm to individuals or, through their behaviour, to society – e.g. any detailed portrayal of violent or dangerous acts, or of illegal drug use, which is likely to promote the activity. The Board may also intervene with portrayals of sexual violence which might, e.g. eroticise or endorse sexual assault.

the more explicit images of sexual activity – unless they can be exceptionally justified by context and the work is not a 'sex work' as defined below.

So even though some of your movie might be really f**ked up, it won't get you your 18 certificate unless you try to actually promote the violence.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:33:35 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 11:29:53 PM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:28:00 PM

I've seen the film so you don't have be ironic with your bold STRANGE.   I've also seen the documentary on the MPAA which was only halfway entertaining.  Anyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.   I think it's gore level is more on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3 than OG Predator.  No offense Colin. 

Maybe I'm just getting numb to it, but I would agree that the movie has some f**ked up scenes in that would should be above the 15 rating. Oh well.... I guess that's better for us because it means more people can see the film in the theaters.

Lets just hope it scars the young 15 year olds  ;D
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:01 PM
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 11:29:53 PM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:28:00 PM

I've seen the film so you don't have be ironic with your bold STRANGE.   I've also seen the documentary on the MPAA which was only halfway entertaining.  Anyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.   I think it's gore level is more on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3 than OG Predator.  No offense Colin. 

Maybe I'm just getting numb to it, but I would agree that the movie has some f**ked up scenes in that would should be above the 15 rating. Oh well.... I guess that's better for us because it means more people can see the film in the theaters.

I'd Imagine you would. I'm now fine with the Acid face burn, but when I first saw it I could barely watch.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PM
QuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. 

The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.

as well as Scott's ALIEN
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:37:17 PM
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PM
QuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. 

The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.

as well as Scott's ALIEN

So Alien was 15 in UK. Do you know if Brett Death scene was edited or not?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:37:17 PM
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PM
QuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. 

The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.

as well as Scott's ALIEN

So Alien was 15 in UK. Do you know if Brett Death scene was edited or not?

it was rated X back in 79, but 2003 directors cut was rated 15.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:39:06 PM
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:37:17 PM
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PM
QuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. 

The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.

as well as Scott's ALIEN

So Alien was 15 in UK. Do you know if Brett Death scene was edited or not?

it was rated X back in 79, but 2003 directors cut was rated 15.

Thank you!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:40:10 PM
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:37:17 PM
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PM
QuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. 

The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.

as well as Scott's ALIEN

So Alien was 15 in UK. Do you know if Brett Death scene was edited or not?

it was rated X back in 79, but 2003 directors cut was rated 15.

But that was for the Halloween release, the film on the SE DVD is 18 again. 
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:42:06 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:40:10 PM
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:37:17 PM
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PM
QuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating.  It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. 

The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.

as well as Scott's ALIEN

So Alien was 15 in UK. Do you know if Brett Death scene was edited or not?

it was rated X back in 79, but 2003 directors cut was rated 15.

But that was for the Halloween release, the film on the SE DVD is 18 again. 

it doesn' change the fact, that was the same, good, old alien, and it had added scene with cocooned Dallas asking with painful voice to kill him.

it's pretty simple guys. with years ratings of movies with violent content are falling down in UK. there's nothing wrong with avp:r itself
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:45:41 PM
QuoteBut that was for the Halloween release, the film on the SE DVD is 18 again.

Read.
The.
Website.

QuoteIn the case of videos and DVDs, which may be more accessible to younger viewers, intervention may be more frequent.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:48:09 PM
i can bet, that if predator 1 and 2, aliens nad alien3 were redistributed to big screen again today, every single one of them would get 15 rating by bbfc.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 04, 2007, 11:52:52 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 04, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Why are people bothered? We already know it's gory and has bad language. Are people angry purely because of the label 15? If so, that's ridiculous.

As I said, Alien was 15 when it was in cinemas a few years ago. We're getting the same film in all its adult detail. If it was exactly the same cut but someone randomly decided to give it an 18 it would make no difference.

While I had also assumed we'd be getting an 18, I'm also not fussed about it being a 15. Like Lovely just said, and like I used to tell you way back when - and if I recall, you didn't believe me - Alien was re-released as a 15. It was gory, not to the level of other stuff but still. Predator isn't that gory. Not to todays standards. Have you not seen 30 Days of Night?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 12:49:49 AM
we all know its gory, violent has heaps of action,it's what everyone has been waiting for since avp, it's going to S**t all over AVP1 every one just relax, 20 days to go.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 05, 2007, 12:54:11 AM
Quote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 12:49:49 AM
we all know its gory, violent has heaps of action,it's what everyone has been waiting for since avp, it's going to S**t all over AVP1 every one just relax, 20 days to go.

For us UK people, we have 6 weeks and 1 day to go  :'(
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 01:06:19 AM
sorry us convicts get it on jan 27
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 05, 2007, 01:13:17 AM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 05, 2007, 12:54:11 AM
Quote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 12:49:49 AM
we all know its gory, violent has heaps of action,it's what everyone has been waiting for since avp, it's going to S**t all over AVP1 every one just relax, 20 days to go.

For us UK people, we have 6 weeks and 1 day to go  :'(

In Hungary...we have in worst position. Almost 2 months to go. >:(
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 01:15:56 AM
QuotePredator isn't that gory. Not to todays standards.
Sry, but thats just BS.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Otnip on Dec 05, 2007, 01:18:51 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 01:15:56 AM
QuotePredator isn't that gory. Not to todays standards.
Sry, but thats just BS.

Just an opinion, really
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: jimmylace on Dec 05, 2007, 02:48:18 AM
its not just about gore, its also about tone- sense of threat. I guess this movie is more action orientated and dosent get an scarier than say, "Aliens".
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: StealthHunter on Dec 05, 2007, 02:51:13 AM
Quote from: Otnip on Dec 05, 2007, 01:18:51 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 01:15:56 AM
QuotePredator isn't that gory. Not to todays standards.
Sry, but thats just BS.

Just an opinion, really

I would argue that Predator was a far more gruesome movie than Predator 2. Sure 2 is very "bloody" and violent, but aside from some skinned bodies and Keys cut in-half by the Smart-Disc(where'd the top half go?) I don't think there was any significant shots of gore in it. Part 1 has a blown open chest, skinned bodies, a disembowled corpse, close-up on brains being blown-out, close-up spine ripping etc'etc'. Sure it's certainly not a splatterfest, but the gore that's there is very harsh and graphic.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Highland on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AM
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:55 AM
Quote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AM
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
yeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 04:33:17 AM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM
If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
Ooh, ooh! Not having an immature atmosphere, not using gratuitous CGI for gore - Although I realise that was pretty much out of anyone's control - emotional impact, visceral impact, good acting and that ... what's it called ... restraint! Yeah.

"Restraint?" you say! "Bitch be crazy! Restraint doesn't give you a higher rating!"

Except for the fact that by withholding on some scenes you make others far more effective. It's the saturation effect. If you keep chucking gore and shocks at an audience, they're going to get real jaded real fast. I watched Hostel, the uncut version, all the way through, and by the time it got to the eye bit I just didn't give a damn anymore. But I showed the eye bit at the end to some people who hadn't seen the rest of the movie and they damn near threw up on the spot.

The ratings peeps take that kind'a stuff into account. High impact violence. If you have heads splattering and kids being killed and women being ravaged every ten minutes, shit, it just turns into farce. And these day every horror movie and its dog is trying to be 'shocking' and 'break the rules' by killing kids in increasingly nasty ways. We've seen it all before. It was vaguely effective the first time. It was laughable the following three hundred.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 07:35:33 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 01:15:56 AM
QuotePredator isn't that gory. Not to todays standards.
Sry, but thats just BS.

So are most things you say but *shrugs* I've seen far worse than Predator. It's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 07:37:23 AM
McTiernan held back and made a better movie because of it.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 05, 2007, 07:43:04 AM
Predator 2 isn't that gory either. The after maths of that film are what make it seem really gory. I never understood why that film was banned in some places across the globe.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 05, 2007, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:55 AM
Quote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AM
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
yeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au

I don't know what Greater Union is smoking, but every other Australian movie theater, (As well as the official Australian AVPR website) says December 26th, a day after the US.

Speaking of which, does anyone know what rating we're getting?  I originally thought that it would be MA, but this news that it's about as bad as Predator 1makes me thing maybe just M.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: NintendoMan on Dec 05, 2007, 08:26:27 AM
Quote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:55 AM
Quote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AM
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
yeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au

I don't know what Greater Union is smoking, but every other Australian movie theater, (As well as the official Australian AVPR website) says December 16th, a day after the US.

Speaking of which, does anyone know what rating we're getting?  I originally thought that it would be MA, but this news that it's about as bad as Predator 1makes me thing maybe just M.

i dunno wat YOU guys are smoking this time
its Dec. 26th
http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm# (http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm#)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: thetias on Dec 05, 2007, 09:07:32 AM
FOX isnt giving AVPR the Die Hard threatment, are they? A kiddy version and double dip DVD.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:09:27 AM
No, they're giving us a 'hardcore' version and a 'hardcorer' version.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 05, 2007, 09:15:55 AM
Quote from: predatorlover on Dec 05, 2007, 08:26:27 AM
Quote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:55 AM
Quote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AM
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
yeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au

I don't know what Greater Union is smoking, but every other Australian movie theater, (As well as the official Australian AVPR website) says December 16th, a day after the US.

Speaking of which, does anyone know what rating we're getting?  I originally thought that it would be MA, but this news that it's about as bad as Predator 1makes me thing maybe just M.

i dunno wat YOU guys are smoking this time
its Dec. 26th
http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm# (http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm#)

Yeah, sorry, typo.  My bad.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:31 AM
I'm betting on an M 15+ down here, although the 'shocking' kills might jack it up to MA 15+.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 05, 2007, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:31 AM
I'm betting on an M 15+ down here, although the 'shocking' kills might jack it up to MA 15+.

Well originally, MA sounded about right, but I'm not sure any more.  M would be great (becasue then I could see it by myself) but MA would still be allright, I could just go with a parent.
That's right, I'm 14.  Didn't see that one coming, did you!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:28:45 AM
Didn't see it, don't care :P

Doom got an MA, yet Predator is only M. Hmmm.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Highland on Dec 05, 2007, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: predatorlover on Dec 05, 2007, 08:26:27 AM
Quote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:55 AM
Quote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AM
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
yeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au

I don't know what Greater Union is smoking, but every other Australian movie theater, (As well as the official Australian AVPR website) says December 16th, a day after the US.

Speaking of which, does anyone know what rating we're getting?  I originally thought that it would be MA, but this news that it's about as bad as Predator 1makes me thing maybe just M.

i dunno wat YOU guys are smoking this time
its Dec. 26th
http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm# (http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm#)

nice, i was raising fist at the dude quoting 26th jan.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: StormPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
I'm not too bothered about the 15 rating for the UK, although it now means sharing the cinema with 15 year olds and 13/14 year olds who managed to get in. Nothing against teens under 18 but I really did think this would be rated 18 and was something alot of us older fans in the UK wanted to see. Oh well, it's a shame because the poster below looks alot more appealing with an 18 certificate stuck on it.

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Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AM
QuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.
Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: MartyPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg

I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(
dont be pissed man
this the UK
America are to quick to jump and give films R ratings
while the UK to quick to jump and give ever film PG's
but this looks worse than FvJ to be honest so im kind of pissed off
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 05, 2007, 11:38:51 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AM
QuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.
Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.

UK always has a different rating and sometimes a different cut of the movie. So don't worry about that. This is just they "exclusive" thing for them. No offense.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: NintendoMan on Dec 05, 2007, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:31 AM
I'm betting on an M 15+ down here, although the 'shocking' kills might jack it up to MA 15+.

yeh nothing rarely becomes R rated in aussie.
except wolf creek  :o
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: MartyPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 05, 2007, 11:38:51 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AM
QuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.
Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.

UK always has a different rating and sometimes a different cut of the movie. So don't worry about that. This is just they "exclusive" thing for them. No offense.
UK sucks for tating great movies
and cuts so much of the good bits and important bits in the movies
eg
when LotR return of the king came out i saw it 1st day...and the bitch(cant remember name) stabs the witch king in the face...she says i am no man..takes helment off....i am a woman...stab
they cut that out...ive got the special addition dvd of it and they dont have it on it
ffs
Quote from: predatorlover on Dec 05, 2007, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:31 AM
I'm betting on an M 15+ down here, although the 'shocking' kills might jack it up to MA 15+.

yeh nothing rarely becomes R rated in aussie.
except wolf creek  :o
thats cause it happened in aussi...i think
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: StormPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:44:53 AM
Still should have been this...
At least it's not been cut...I hope :-\

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Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:49:34 AM
Quote from: StormPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:44:53 AM
Still should have been this...
At least it's not been cut...I hope :-\

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That actually looks pretty good. :)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: StormPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:57:19 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:49:34 AM
Quote from: StormPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:44:53 AM
Still should have been this...
At least it's not been cut...I hope :-\

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg411.imageshack.us%2Fimg411%2F3660%2F18certia4.jpg&hash=37c8cb3114564e1a825f7dd992a3d3c9c5446114)
That actually looks pretty good. :)
And what about the posters below? I did start a thread with these in but should have posted them here first, my bad. With an 18 cert stuck on it it looks alot more appealing in my opinion have would have gotten more arse's into cinema seats!

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Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: NintendoMan on Dec 05, 2007, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: MartyPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 05, 2007, 11:38:51 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AM
QuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.
Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.

UK always has a different rating and sometimes a different cut of the movie. So don't worry about that. This is just they "exclusive" thing for them. No offense.
UK sucks for tating great movies
and cuts so much of the good bits and important bits in the movies
eg
when LotR return of the king came out i saw it 1st day...and the bitch(cant remember name) stabs the witch king in the face...she says i am no man..takes helment off....i am a woman...stab
they cut that out...ive got the special addition dvd of it and they dont have it on it
ffs
Quote from: predatorlover on Dec 05, 2007, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:31 AM
I'm betting on an M 15+ down here, although the 'shocking' kills might jack it up to MA 15+.

yeh nothing rarely becomes R rated in aussie.
except wolf creek  :o
thats cause it happened in aussi...i think

it was INSPIRED by events happening in australia yes
but it was the simple fact of it being in your face gore
and the whole hostage, serial killer type thing
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: StealthHunter on Dec 05, 2007, 12:29:59 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 04:33:17 AM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM
If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
Ooh, ooh! Not having an immature atmosphere, not using gratuitous CGI for gore - Although I realise that was pretty much out of anyone's control - emotional impact, visceral impact, good acting and that ... what's it called ... restraint! Yeah.

"Restraint?" you say! "Bitch be crazy! Restraint doesn't give you a higher rating!"

Except for the fact that by withholding on some scenes you make others far more effective. It's the saturation effect. If you keep chucking gore and shocks at an audience, they're going to get real jaded real fast. I watched Hostel, the uncut version, all the way through, and by the time it got to the eye bit I just didn't give a damn anymore. But I showed the eye bit at the end to some people who hadn't seen the rest of the movie and they damn near threw up on the spot.

The ratings peeps take that kind'a stuff into account. High impact violence. If you have heads splattering and kids being killed and women being ravaged every ten minutes, shit, it just turns into farce. And these day every horror movie and its dog is trying to be 'shocking' and 'break the rules' by killing kids in increasingly nasty ways. We've seen it all before. It was vaguely effective the first time. It was laughable the following three hundred.

Very well said. I completely agree. 8)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AM
QuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.
Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.

...Have you not actually seen Alien?

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There's a reason that scene made people throw-up. Even the 15 aged re-release. Nothing in Predator compares to the CB.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: gases on Dec 05, 2007, 01:08:43 PM
Quote from: CloakedHunter on Dec 05, 2007, 12:29:59 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 04:33:17 AM
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM
If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
Ooh, ooh! Not having an immature atmosphere, not using gratuitous CGI for gore - Although I realise that was pretty much out of anyone's control - emotional impact, visceral impact, good acting and that ... what's it called ... restraint! Yeah.

"Restraint?" you say! "Bitch be crazy! Restraint doesn't give you a higher rating!"

Except for the fact that by withholding on some scenes you make others far more effective. It's the saturation effect. If you keep chucking gore and shocks at an audience, they're going to get real jaded real fast. I watched Hostel, the uncut version, all the way through, and by the time it got to the eye bit I just didn't give a damn anymore. But I showed the eye bit at the end to some people who hadn't seen the rest of the movie and they damn near threw up on the spot.

The ratings peeps take that kind'a stuff into account. High impact violence. If you have heads splattering and kids being killed and women being ravaged every ten minutes, shit, it just turns into farce. And these day every horror movie and its dog is trying to be 'shocking' and 'break the rules' by killing kids in increasingly nasty ways. We've seen it all before. It was vaguely effective the first time. It was laughable the following three hundred.

Very well said. I completely agree. 8)

your right Sil. But we don't know if all the deaths are like as you described.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:11:58 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AM
QuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.
Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.

...Have you not actually seen Alien?

http://www.nosolorol.com/revista/chestburster.jpg
http://www.bugsforthugs.com/wp-content/uploads/Alien_chestburster.jpg
http://www.ez-entertainment.net/zoneseye/alien_05.jpg

There's a reason that scene made people throw-up. Even the 15 aged re-release. Nothing in Predator compares to the CB.
Are you kidding? In 79 maybe the people threw up, there is much harder stuff out today and people dont throw up anymore.
I watched it as a kid and it didnt effect me at all... but the skinned bodys and the ripped out spine did.
And those  2 pics are production pics and not even in the movie. The only thing that is in the movie is the pic in the middle, doesnt look that gory to be honest.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 05, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:11:58 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AM
QuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.
Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.

...Have you not actually seen Alien?

http://www.nosolorol.com/revista/chestburster.jpg
http://www.bugsforthugs.com/wp-content/uploads/Alien_chestburster.jpg
http://www.ez-entertainment.net/zoneseye/alien_05.jpg

There's a reason that scene made people throw-up. Even the 15 aged re-release. Nothing in Predator compares to the CB.
Are you kidding? In 79 maybe the people threw up, there is much harder stuff out today and people dont throw up anymore.
I watched it as a kid and it didnt effect me at all... but the skinned bodys and the ripped out spine did.
And those  2 pics are production pics and not even in the movie. The only thing that is in the movie is the pic in the middle, doesnt look that gory to be honest.

Dude, nothing in Predator comes close to being as gory as Alien. Mctiernan deliberately toned down the gore where as Ridley amped it up. Ridley was trying to generate disgust, where as Mctiernan was trying to show brutality, hence why the guys in Predator screamed in pain a lot.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:44:22 PM
QuoteDude, nothing in Predator comes close to being as gory as Alien.
Sry, but that actually made me laugh... :D
It surpasses alien by miles, the blain scene with the ripcage is more brutal as the whole alien movie with all it´s scenes.
Please go to www.Aliensvspredator.de and say there that alien is gorier then predator, the guys will have a good laugh. ;)
Tell me when you said it there.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 05, 2007, 02:45:16 PM
Quote from: TheUrbanPredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:21:40 PM
No it wasn't, 15 all the way.

f**k yeah! I'm allowed to see it, January 18th will be the happiest day of my life!

Oh yeah, and 300 was "gory" and it still got a 15, so was Doom, and both had nudity!

Doom had nudity in it? Which part?  ???
Haha, it's the part where Kid and Portman were looking for the scientists Portman spotted the female scientist naked, and he said "There is a God."

You must watch the film again.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:11:58 PM
Are you kidding? In 79 maybe the people threw up, there is much harder stuff out today and people dont throw up anymore.
I watched it as a kid and it didnt effect me at all... but the skinned bodys and the ripped out spine did.
And those  2 pics are production pics and not even in the movie. The only thing that is in the movie is the pic in the middle, doesnt look that gory to be honest.

Not at all. People threw up in the re-release of the Director's Cut. Something which Sir Ridley was quite proud of, if memory servers. The headbite. Gorier than the spine ripping. I would go over there and say it, but I have no doubt they'll mostly be stuborn fan boys such as yourself. And we all know what they're like.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 03:00:22 PM
QuoteThe headbite. Gorier than the spine ripping.
The 1 sec shot of the headbite is gorier then the spine ripping with the close up and the meat dripping of the skull?  :o
Ohh god... That cant be true, i dont believe you just said that, really.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:02:48 PM
You mean the incredibly dark shot where you don't know it's blood for a bit? Oh yeah, was really disgusted at that. The explosion of blood and brain was nowhere near as gory.  :o Go back to the forest of dellusions on the Yautja homeworld.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 05, 2007, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:11:58 PM
Are you kidding? In 79 maybe the people threw up, there is much harder stuff out today and people dont throw up anymore.
I watched it as a kid and it didnt effect me at all... but the skinned bodys and the ripped out spine did.
And those  2 pics are production pics and not even in the movie. The only thing that is in the movie is the pic in the middle, doesnt look that gory to be honest.

Not at all. People threw up in the re-release of the Director's Cut. Something which Sir Ridley was quite proud of, if memory servers. The headbite. Gorier than the spine ripping. I would go over there and say it, but I have no doubt they'll mostly be stuborn fan boys such as yourself. And we all know what they're like.

Chestburst > Everything in Predator.

Spine Rip > Headbite.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:44:22 PM
QuoteDude, nothing in Predator comes close to being as gory as Alien.
Sry, but that actually made me laugh... :D
It surpasses alien by miles, the blain scene with the ripcage is more brutal as the whole alien movie with all it´s scenes.
Please go to www.Aliensvspredator.de and say there that alien is gorier then predator, the guys will have a good laugh. ;)
Tell me when you said it there.

I'm sure Mctiernan would strongly disagree with you and say you misunderstood his intentions.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:02:48 PM
You mean the incredibly dark shot where you don't know it's blood for a bit? Oh yeah, was really disgusted at that. The explosion of blood and brain was nowhere near as gory.  :o Go back to the forest of dellusions on the Yautja homeworld.

The spine rip took place during the day, and the "skull corvered in meat" was seen in front of white fog...

And there were no explosions of brain and blood in Alien, except for the Chestburst.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:06:22 PM
Headbite = explosion of brain and blood. Quite sure that shot is of up in the trees and the Predator is very shadowy and dark. If I had the DVD handy, I'd have a butchers.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 05, 2007, 03:08:33 PM
There's a distinctive loss of brain matter from both Brett and Parker when they're head bitten.  It's all done with quick cuts though, no lingering shots.

I was pretty sure Johhny was your average troll but this thread makes me think that he genuinely beleives his own BS, and that is more frightening than the whole Alien franchise put together.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 05, 2007, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:06:22 PM
Headbite = explosion of brain and blood. Quite sure that shot is of up in the trees and the Predator is very shadowy and dark. If I had the DVD handy, I'd have a butchers.

Which head bite are we talking about here? 'Cause I swear none of them were particularly gory, it was the fact that we knew that guy just had his skull caved in which was gross. All of them were split second shots anyway, Scott left a lot to the imagination.

AS for the spine rip, the sounds alone are disgusting.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:02:48 PM
You mean the incredibly dark shot where you don't know it's blood for a bit? Oh yeah, was really disgusted at that. The explosion of blood and brain was nowhere near as gory.  :o Go back to the forest of dellusions on the Yautja homeworld.
Yeah, really dark. ::)
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QuoteHeadbite = explosion of brain and blood.
What? You really have to watch alien again, you can hardly see anything there.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:13:27 PM
Holy shit. Look at that skull, it's gross! It's horrible!  :o And it is dark. The meat doesn't look like meat, it looks like sea weed. The sound is disgusting you say? Might sound disgusting but it ain't visually gory. As for which headbite, Brett's DC one.

Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 05, 2007, 03:08:33 PM
There's a distinctive loss of brain matter from both Brett and Parker when they're head bitten.  It's all done with quick cuts though, no lingering shots.

I was pretty sure Johhny was your average troll but this thread makes me think that he genuinely beleives his own BS, and that is more frightening than the whole Alien franchise put together.

Tell me about it. Half of the time I've just tempted to ban some of these folks on account of IQ.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: The New Blood on Dec 05, 2007, 03:18:44 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:13:27 PM
Holy shit. Look at that skull, it's gross! It's horrible!  :o And it is dark. The meat doesn't look like meat, it looks like sea weed. The sound is disgusting you say? Might sound disgusting but it ain't visually gory. As for which headbite, Brett's DC one.


Isn't the headbite the same in the DC and the theatrical version? I didn't notice any difference.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 03:19:16 PM
QuoteHoly shit. Look at that skull, it's gross! It's horrible!
Yeah, just like bretts headbite is so gory and horrific... ly done. :)
forget it, when it comes to gore and brutality, predator beats the shit out of alien and aliens together.
Why dont we just post every single bit of blood in the movies, now? You post the ones from alien and aliens and i from predator. We will see who has more blood and gore in it.
Predator not worth an 18 today... god, i laugh at you. :D
QuoteIsn't the headbite the same in the DC and the theatrical version? I didn't notice any difference.
Because there is no difference.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:19:29 PM
Brett's death is extended in the DC.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: The New Blood on Dec 05, 2007, 03:20:10 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:19:29 PM
Brett's death is extended in the DC.

yeah, but not the actual shot of the headbite
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 03:22:32 PM
QuoteBrett's death is extended in the DC.
Whoaaa, you can see some blood dripping from above with water...
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:49 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:13:27 PM
Holy shit. Look at that skull, it's gross! It's horrible!  :o And it is dark. The meat doesn't look like meat, it looks like sea weed.

That's because it's clotted blood, which it looks exactly like.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:25:09 PM
I'll check it later. Waiting on SiL or SM, I imagine they'd know more. Only problem with this is, once again, it's all a matter of opinion.

^^ Never said it didn't. Thing is, it still looks and sea weed and it isn't disgusting.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Aeus on Dec 05, 2007, 03:31:55 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:25:09 PM
I'll check it later. Waiting on SiL or SM, I imagine they'd know more. Only problem with this is, once again, it's all a matter of opinion.

^^ Never said it didn't. Thing is, it still looks and sea weed and it isn't disgusting.

Yeah, definitely is an opinion thing. Don't get me wrong, the Chestburst is the big daddy of gore, but the Spine rip in Predator I've always found particularly disgusting.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: StealthHunter on Dec 05, 2007, 04:35:08 PM
The chestbursting is the only real moment of gore in Alien, any other kind of violence towards the human characters is done with split-second editing and obscure camera angles. It's quite obvious to me that aside from the aforementioned chestbursting, Scott chose to leave alot more to the viewers imagination. This especially holds true concerning Lambert's death, which is offscreen using her genuinely horrific gasps & screams. Personally I feel that Lambert's death is the most disturbing sequence in the film.


Now yes, McTeirnan did decide to tone down the violence and gore level in Predator. Having that said, it still remains a very gory film none-the-less. And it's far more graphic than Alien, I mean there really isn't any comparison between the 2 in that respect.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: vehtam on Dec 05, 2007, 05:06:45 PM
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 05, 2007, 02:45:16 PM
Haha, it's the part where Kid and Portman were looking for the scientists Portman spotted the female scientist naked, and he said "There is a God."

You must watch the film again.

this scene wasn't in the theatrical relase, only on dvd extended cut.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Huol on Dec 05, 2007, 05:25:40 PM
Yes we all know how little blood the alien series has...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyberpunkreview.com%2Fimages%2Falien19.jpg&hash=8f3bfa790670bc8abdf4ab7306cb9937a710634d)
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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ez-entertainment.net%2Fzoneseye%2Falien_05.jpg&hash=eeb13a205be399f730ed46c4ed557c0fe645d4da)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv94%2Favpgalaxy%2Favpg%2Fforum%2Fc651bfea.jpg&hash=a45e543a78195cc63fc5575e3687b36fac4124f4)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv94%2Favpgalaxy%2Favpg%2Fforum%2F0b9cbf20.jpg&hash=5b2ac3282901a47a2dc6a2dff89863d923b068fe)
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Predator may have "more blood", but it's not as realistic as the alien series. From the odd brown melon that explodes to Keyes being sliced in half.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Darkness on Dec 05, 2007, 06:23:16 PM
I can't believe you guys are still arguing about this. Sure, the Chestburster is a gory shot. If it was that gory, the Alien DC would have been 18, right?

Alien doesn't even compare to the Predator movies. There's way more gore in them than in Alien. It's all the way though. They would always be an 18.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 05, 2007, 06:27:17 PM
Predator 2 was 15 but now its 18 ...wtf..
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Commander Aun on Dec 05, 2007, 06:31:48 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 05, 2007, 06:27:17 PM
Predator 2 was 15 but now its 18 ...wtf..

Well, predator two is pretty violent, even these days........
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Darkness on Dec 05, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
Predator 2 has always been 18.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 05, 2007, 06:34:32 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 05, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
Predator 2 has always been 18.

yeah u right i just checked oops
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: StealthHunter on Dec 05, 2007, 06:35:29 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 05, 2007, 06:23:16 PM
I can't believe you guys are still arguing about this.

Dude you run this site, have you net yet realised that 99.9% of threads turn into a f**king argument one way or the other?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Dec 05, 2007, 06:39:16 PM
The Predator series is gorier.

Not better, but gorier.

Someone post up a still of Brett's brains falling out. Great stuff. ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Xhan on Dec 05, 2007, 07:35:20 PM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
I'm learning a lot of people on the forums are under 17 lol.

What gave it away?

...
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 05, 2007, 07:46:21 PM
I definatly agree that Predator is gorier.  Oh, and just for record, in Australia all of the Alien movies except number 4 is M, as well as the 1st Predator.  The 2nd predator movie and Alien res were MA.
M=PG 13
MA=in between PG 13 and R
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: gameoverman on Dec 05, 2007, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:46:21 PM
I definatly agree that Predator is gorier.  Oh, and just for record, in Australia all of the Alien movies except number 4 is M, as well as the 1st Predator.  The 2nd predator movie and Alien res were MA.
M=PG 13
MA=in between PG 13 and R

Alien 3 is also MA 15+ (http://www.classification.gov.au/special.html?n=46&p=156&sTitle=alien+3&sMediaFilm=1&sMediaPublications=1&sMediaGames=1&sDateFromM=1&sDateFromY=1970&sDateToM=12&sDateToY=2007&record=189720) - the dvd, anyway.  The extended edition contained more violence.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 07:56:59 PM
M 15+ =/= PG 13. There are many R rated movies which get M, such as Predator.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: gameoverman on Dec 05, 2007, 08:00:07 PM
It might seem that Australia is more liberal with censorship - but it's not.  Anything that is refused classification are banned.  You can't release anything 'unrated' like in the USA.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 08:10:42 PM
This is true. Although you can get a PG with nudity!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 05, 2007, 08:20:01 PM
Quote from: gameoverman on Dec 05, 2007, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:46:21 PM
I definatly agree that Predator is gorier.  Oh, and just for record, in Australia all of the Alien movies except number 4 is M, as well as the 1st Predator.  The 2nd predator movie and Alien res were MA.
M=PG 13
MA=in between PG 13 and R

Alien 3 is also MA 15+ (http://www.classification.gov.au/special.html?n=46&p=156&sTitle=alien+3&sMediaFilm=1&sMediaPublications=1&sMediaGames=1&sDateFromM=1&sDateFromY=1970&sDateToM=12&sDateToY=2007&record=189720) - the dvd, anyway.  The extended edition contained more violence.

Yeah, but that's only the director's cut, I'm talking about the theatrical version.  Also, Predator 2 was originally rated R!  I never really thought that it was that bad.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 05, 2007, 08:21:02 PM
I heard that the aliens films are 12 in France, does anybody know if this is true?   
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 05, 2007, 08:23:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 05, 2007, 08:21:02 PM
I heard that the aliens films are 12 in France, does anybody know if this is true?   

Not sure, but it's definatly plausible.  To be honest, I don't know why their not rated 12 in Uk.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: brad873 on Dec 05, 2007, 08:28:53 PM
this day and age, gore isnt a factor. if a movie is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeealy gory, and not much sex, most of the time it gets 15. usualy, any racist comments, hardcore sex, ect, gets it an 18. im glad that i will be able to see it now, im only 14, but i can pass ;D. anyway, i want to see it because its AVP, not because i can. but it better be good.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 05, 2007, 08:35:35 PM
Quote from: brad873 on Dec 05, 2007, 08:28:53 PM
this day and age, gore isnt a factor. if a movie is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeealy gory, and not much sex, most of the time it gets 15. usualy, any racist comments, hardcore sex, ect, gets it an 18. im glad that i will be able to see it now, im only 14, but i can pass ;D. anyway, i want to see it because its AVP, not because i can. but it better be good.

Hello fellow 14 year old.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 11:05:53 PM
Right, I'd just like to make a massive appology to Johnny. I've been in a foul mood today and when I visited the forum and saw some of the posts, it ballooned. I was far too aggressive with him and others and just exploded. I'm really, really sorry to those I insulted. I hope you'll forgive me.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: RoaryUK on Dec 07, 2007, 12:27:43 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 04, 2007, 06:19:51 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(

I thought AVP was a 12a.

Actually your more or less right, correct term was PG-13 ...where do some of you guys get your info lol
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SiL on Dec 07, 2007, 12:29:49 AM
Only correct if you're American.

Which, believe it or not, is only a fraction of the world!

*tap dances*
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 12:32:15 AM
Was 15 here, not 12a. The UK doesnt have PG13 Roary...You're a UKian...should know this.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: RoaryUK on Dec 07, 2007, 12:36:45 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 07, 2007, 12:29:49 AM
Only correct if you're American.

Which, believe it or not, is only a fraction of the world!

*tap dances*

lol  ...thank god Im a true Brit then lol.  Back on topic, I dont think this 15 rating here for AvP-R is necessarily a bad thing, and we all know things change.  Anyone rememeber a time when A Clockwork Orange was banned in the UK for almost 30 years, yet when it was finally released it wasnt even an 18 ...strange eh!!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: RoaryUK on Dec 07, 2007, 12:45:31 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 04, 2007, 06:19:51 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP.  >:(

I thought AVP was a 12a.

Ooops, sorry nukem11 your right I was wrong.  Just double checked on AvP when it was released here and it was indeed 12a...sorry mate.  Dunno why some places got it as a 15 cant really answer that one but it was definately 12a here in north east
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 01:02:44 AM
No, it was a 15.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Don Dorris on Dec 07, 2007, 01:13:58 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 01:02:44 AM
No, it was a 15.
I concur.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: RoaryUK on Dec 07, 2007, 01:16:10 AM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 07, 2007, 01:13:58 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 01:02:44 AM
No, it was a 15.
I concur.

Not here it wasnt.... cant explain why.  Was mistaken about the PG-13 thing fair enough, but AvP was 12a here
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 01:17:01 AM
You got a source? Or this a "My memory thing"?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SM on Dec 07, 2007, 01:26:05 AM
EDIT - Bloody liink...  >:(

Go to the BBFC and search for AvP
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: RoaryUK on Dec 07, 2007, 01:27:11 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 01:17:01 AM
You got a source? Or this a "My memory thing"?

Just an old local movie magazine I kept, havent really checked it out online but am aware it was supposed to be 15.  For whatever reason, here (at one multiplex cinema anyway) it was 12a.  Could be a miss-print, I never saw AvP til it came out on DVD anyway.  Gotta admit though the PG-13 was a memory thing lol
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 01:35:34 AM
No, was a 15. Nation wide.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Gazz on Dec 07, 2007, 01:36:11 AM
For an example of what 15s can get away with I urge you peeps to check out 30 Days of Night.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: RoaryUK on Dec 07, 2007, 01:36:18 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 07, 2007, 01:26:05 AM
%20contains%20"ALIEN")%20and%20((%20[TypeOfMedia]%20contains%20Film)%20OR%20(%20[TypeOfMedia]%20contains%20Video))&SearchMax=50]For what it's worth[/url}
(http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/SearchClassifiedWorks/?SearchView&Query=(%20%5BTitle)
I noticed when I did a search for "AvP" on this site it came up with all but one with "15" ...strangely enough the odd one out (second one down) is actually classified as "12".  Ok strike my last comment as I finally managed to get into the site properly, the 12 rating is because its a trailer doesnt actually say that until you click on that link, but sometimes the corresponding links dont open.

SM; the link works just fine...
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SM on Dec 07, 2007, 02:56:22 AM
People can click it in your reply then.

What a messy bugger of  a URL.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 03:15:30 AM
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/E1F2CCA146711FF480256EF4001B564F?OpenDocument
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Purebreedalien on Dec 07, 2007, 07:19:49 AM
Hmmm. I am 13. I will not be 14 until June next year. But I won't be leagally allowed to see it until 2009. By then AVP-R will no longer be in cinemas. So when it comes out I could go and see it in cinemas by pretending to be 15... But the real question is, will it work? Anybody?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Huol on Dec 07, 2007, 08:22:31 AM
Just try it... :\

Its not like they prosecute you. They would just deny you entry, either that or sneak in.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: YutaniDitch on Dec 07, 2007, 12:07:23 PM
Okay, this is what I don't get...

How can a movie showing 'moderate horror' have the same rating as AVPR with the latter having much more gore (HUMAN blood), whether fake or not...?


-AVP-

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/E1F2CCA146711FF480256EF4001B564F?OpenDocument

-AVPR-

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: geestewart on Dec 07, 2007, 12:12:03 PM
Quote from: purebreedalien on Dec 07, 2007, 07:19:49 AM
Hmmm. I am 13. I will not be 14 until June next year. But I won't be leagally allowed to see it until 2009. By then AVP-R will no longer be in cinemas. So when it comes out I could go and see it in cinemas by pretending to be 15... But the real question is, will it work? Anybody?

i was getting into 15's since i was 11.
people dont care.
go with an older relative or friend.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Gazz on Dec 07, 2007, 12:14:41 PM
I think AvP wa a 15 in the UK due to the suspense and appearence of the characters (they deemed it too frightening for people of 12 years and have learnt from the 12a rating of T3). But unlike films such as Hostel or Saw (both 18), the violence isn't being inflicted by another human (and thus warping teenagers fragile minds, like they believe Manhunt did etc and creating copycats) but by a monster.

Not many monster movies garner an 18 rating here unless there is some kind of human involvement in the deaths.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: gases on Dec 07, 2007, 12:16:01 PM
yeah.. arent u alloud in with parents? even if R
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Don Dorris on Dec 07, 2007, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: gases on Dec 07, 2007, 12:16:01 PM
yeah.. arent u alloud in with parents? even if R

In the UK, no.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Gazz on Dec 07, 2007, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 07, 2007, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: gases on Dec 07, 2007, 12:16:01 PM
yeah.. arent u alloud in with parents? even if R

In the UK, no.

Thank f**k, it's hard enough with rowdy teenagers that can't keep off their mobile phones nevermind the 12a crowd.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 07, 2007, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 07, 2007, 04:46:48 PM
...rowdy teenagers that can't keep off their mobile phones nevermind the 12a crowd.
I smell chavs!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Huol on Dec 07, 2007, 05:54:13 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 07, 2007, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 07, 2007, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: gases on Dec 07, 2007, 12:16:01 PM
yeah.. arent u alloud in with parents? even if R

In the UK, no.

Thank f**k, it's hard enough with rowdy teenagers that can't keep off their mobile phones nevermind the 12a crowd.

True, when i went to see Beowulf, through the whole movie this retarded gang of chav-ettes (who wern't even watching it) where screaming and laughing the whole time. Even at one point their phone went off... "Yeah, yeah mate im in the cinema. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah cinema"
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Weasel on Dec 07, 2007, 06:02:18 PM
Depends on where you go. I saw Beowulf and it was fine. Saw Spiderman 3 opening day and the crowd was shit.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: severen76 on Dec 07, 2007, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 07, 2007, 06:02:18 PM
Depends on where you go. I saw Beowulf and it was fine. Saw Spiderman 3 opening day and the crowd was shit.

i did the same but he film was shit for me  :P
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 05, 2007, 08:53:39 AM
f**k!!!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: YAUTJA on Dec 05, 2007, 08:57:12 AM
its strange the certs over here, sum 15's are very greusum and others get the rating jst because sumeone sez f***, once...wots with that? i still think the rating wont dissapoint us.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: crypto84 on Dec 05, 2007, 09:04:51 AM
Now that I didn't expect    :-\   There have been films rated 15 in the UK but are rated R in the US though.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: PredKing_Luke on Dec 05, 2007, 09:06:58 AM
well its a definate good for me i turn 15 a few days after te film is released in cinemas in the uk!!!!!   8)     ;D     ;)  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Leumas on Dec 05, 2007, 09:09:01 AM
It's getting better and better, first the short movie length now this. We see it again and again, always prommising us the best and giving us not even half of what was expected.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: jamieisking on Dec 05, 2007, 09:13:47 AM
i don't understand i thought this film was a guaranteed R rating or is 15 an R in U.S.    ???  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Predboy on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:21 AM
I just cant get over that retarded ass running time.   >:(  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 05, 2007, 09:24:51 AM
R rating in USA is 17, there is no 15s only PG 13, 14 and R, so they don't have to worry.  You can find cheap ass crappy martial arts films that are 18 with no blood or a single swear word, but a mans face burning of by acid is acceptable?  I am really angry about this    >:(  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: YAUTJA on Dec 05, 2007, 09:28:39 AM
gotta admit, i wud av prefered a longer flick, but in an earlier interview, the bros described multiple action scenes, so hopefully the time will be taken up with a full-on action, suspence, nail biting, thrill ride.... which i kinda feel it will be?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: jamieisking on Dec 05, 2007, 09:29:51 AM
cheers Mr. Weyland
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: konradski on Dec 05, 2007, 09:42:10 AM
remeber the board of classification has changed a hell of a lot over tme im an 80s video child and what passed fo 15 them is tantemount to pg now(also last i knew american parents can take their kids to see r rated films unlike the uk. nc17 is americas 18 in the uk need confirmation i havent read any of the shit for ages swearing takes a back seat and also remember if it looks like action killing its seen diffrently due to how its interpreted. like if its done in malice with human actors not rubber suited guys then it bears more of a resdemblance to life rather than fiction last i read as well the american mpaa views sex worse than violence again like i say its all moved on since saving private ryan 15 and jurassic park pg whats acceptable here in the uk as we seem to deem action flicks in a diffrent light now if they reclassed other movies in uk id bet alien would still be 18 n aliens would be 15 the reason being atmosspere of the original as opposed to an action oriented sequel and itchi the killer a u certificate lol
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Starkiller on Dec 05, 2007, 09:52:51 AM
THIS SUCKS! i am so dissapointed! I mean the originals were 18 so should this movie! Fox promises one thing and deliever another, okay so if they havn't cut anything from the film thats cool! but as far as advertising goes another 15 AVP movie! Come On!  This f**king sucks!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: FRANKASTER on Dec 05, 2007, 09:57:20 AM
sin city is a family movie in japan... so maybe when a jap tv channel got the rights for broadcast it, surely it'll be in open tv in a familiar channel at a very popular time like 4:00pm
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: YAUTJA on Dec 05, 2007, 09:57:48 AM
who cares about ratings anyway? no one except the goody 2 shoes listen 2 them. iv wotched these movies for as long as i can remember, wen i was a kid i didnt want 2 whatch disney films or corny kids movies- i much prefered Arnie fighting off pred and Hicks fighting aliens, my oppinion-their pointless
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Starkiller on Dec 05, 2007, 09:58:16 AM
I know films that were rated 18 back in the day would only be a 15 now! because time, people and film making has changed, But its the fact another 15 Certificate AVP movie, Its just makes the film tacky, cheap and for kids!    >:(    This news has put a sour taste in my mouth!!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Starkiller on Dec 05, 2007, 10:01:27 AM
so much for 'R' stands for R-Rated    :(  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Optimus Maximus Virus on Dec 05, 2007, 10:05:55 AM
I must admit I am dissapointed, but I suppose no cuts have been made to the film and its still way gory and violent that Alien, Aliens & Predator.  I suppose they have done this because more people can watch the movie, so fox make's more money    :-\  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 05, 2007, 10:07:39 AM
FOX didn't have anything to do with this for once, its BBFC
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: I C 3 M 4 N on Dec 05, 2007, 10:08:30 AM
Well uk fans (like myself) are going to be pissed. If this movie was 18 and had a slightly longer running time then that would have been the icing on the cake lol.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Red Rum on Dec 05, 2007, 10:13:51 AM
300 waa 15 certificate and that was violent and bloody. Nothing has been edited from the movie so relax guys its just a rating, american and uk audiences are different and the bbfc or whatever are different in both countries.     ;D  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: killzonewithbladesandteeth on Dec 05, 2007, 10:14:52 AM
having lived in both the UK and the US this is not really surprising to meI thinkt he UK has better tougher laws about at what age people should be allowed in to see certain types of movie for instance in the US I watched mothers taking children that looked as young as 3 or 4 to watch 28 days later and having to sit through the movie while their kids screamed because they didn't like what was going on. Yet in the UK if you are not 15 you ain't getting in to a 15 and people who work at cinemas will ask for proff of age. Bottom line is I dunno what people are getting upset about the 15 certificate this is still gonna be a great movie
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: pred_warrior07 on Dec 05, 2007, 10:23:34 AM
Hahahaha!!   :D    Yeah....this is REALLY going back to the way it was eh?????    ::)  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: konradski on Dec 05, 2007, 10:24:33 AM
15 in uk usualy means r in usa  just like saving private ryan was 15 uk yet us r rated usa so when the american made film avp2 suggest it will be an 18 by their film staff etc, it does not neccisarily mean to those from the uk it will be an 18 over here   please uk people reading. what the classification our country use,s differs imensly from the american standard as do all other countrys .were leniant on some stuff were as i dont want to sound daft the americans see other things as more to their tastes or not as it may be to others, i point out homosexuality ,smoking and naked blokes(not in a gay sense but in the same way as below)  yet they view female full nudity as ok and will rate a film lower for it  fck know what smokings got to do with making a movie a higher rating cos it,d mean theyd have to go thru the back catalog and re rate all me mothers movies 15 and the sexual tension in some would have them x rated
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: The Necronoir on Dec 05, 2007, 10:46:30 AM
I don't know what you're all whining about. Here in Australia the highest any of the films has been rated is the uncut Predator 2, which only got an R-rating because of the drug-taking scenes anyway. Other than than every Alien and Predator film has been rated M15 or MA15+, simply because both America's PG13 and R translate into an Australian M15 or MA15+ (our R-rating is restricted for extremely violent or sexually explicit films and is hardly ever used). IN this respect the UK is much more similar to Australia than the US, so this means nothing! No change, no dumbing down, no cutting, so shut up!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: holdtheline on Dec 05, 2007, 10:46:36 AM
I'm more concerned with the running time.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Starkiller on Dec 05, 2007, 11:10:03 AM
quick question, does that mean it will defo be called Aliens vs Predator Requiem in the UK (i really hope it is)  anyone?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: SHREK on Dec 05, 2007, 11:22:01 AM
does this means some bits will b cut out of the movie over here???
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: eyesofthedemon on Dec 05, 2007, 11:29:56 AM
Every one just chill!!!,i saw "30 days of night" a little while ago,Gory as hell and guess what rating it had? Exactly 15!!!! They taunt and then rip a young girl to pieces for gods sake!! I dont want "hostel 3",i want AVP!!!!!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 11:36:44 AM
How many times do I have to remind you Darkness? Alien DC was released as a 15. I'm not that surprised personally.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Dwayne24 on Dec 05, 2007, 11:39:57 AM
this sucks!    >:(  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Deco on Dec 05, 2007, 11:47:34 AM
we saw the trailer with our own eyes guys and no cuts have been made. Dont worry
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: thegodfather on Dec 05, 2007, 11:48:01 AM
The Terminator has been re-certificated as a 15 from an 18 a few years back, and it didnt suffer any cuts. The Punisher was an 18 but should have been a 15, Troy/Gladiator/300/Kingdom of Heaven/30 days of Night/Dog Soldiers all have plenty of blood n' guts and they were 15. I am just a little peeved that its short but when the DVD comes out with that 'sub-plot' that the bros said they chopped out. So wait and see,
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: warchant-D on Dec 05, 2007, 11:48:13 AM
hey everyone if you check out the actual BBFC site theres a few other troubling facts mentioned  -'The BBFC has placed this work in the ACTION genre(s).' doesnt mention suspence or horror  -"When a film is transferred to video the running time will be shorter by approximately 4% due to the differing number of frames per second. This does not mean that the video version has been cut or re-edited."  great, possibly even shorter now  WOW! dissapointing to say the least.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 05, 2007, 11:48:49 AM
Wow Im really suprised, I thought America was more leinent towards violence.  I mean you see a pregnant girl get implanted and killed for god sakes.  But Im sure they diddnt make any cuts or anything for you guys over in England.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Danger Close on Dec 05, 2007, 12:07:55 PM
This really means nothing, as long as they don't make a film intending it to be rated 15.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Sulaco on Dec 05, 2007, 12:19:36 PM
Did'nt fox change the first movie to a PG-13 three weeks before release? Is that the plan again?
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Ivan(AvP Fan) on Dec 05, 2007, 01:01:54 PM
Very gay news... m8
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 05, 2007, 01:52:14 PM
"Did'nt fox change the first movie to a PG-13 three weeks before release? Is that the plan again?"  AvP has never was a different cut. It always was PG-13.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: AVPer on Dec 05, 2007, 06:16:17 PM
This sucks because now all the 13 and 14 year olds will no doubt be able to pass for 15 and get in to see it, and no offence to any under 18' s here but that is one of the reasons I never went to the cinema to see the first AVP, seeing a que of kids waiting to get in and see it put me off and alot of other people. It will be the same around this time, I have already been told by at least 20 people I know who are in their 20's and 30's that they aren't bothering to go and see it now and I doubt very much that I will either. Going back to the roots? Yeah right!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Deco on Dec 05, 2007, 09:37:45 PM
Im BAFFLED at how people are reacting to this. We SAW THE TRAILER WITH OUR OWN EYES AND ITS BLOODY AS HELL! WHO CARES WHAT CERT IT HAS!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: predator rocks on Dec 05, 2007, 09:37:47 PM
I wanted to see an 18, but it opens the movie to a younger generation, bringing in more profits allowing this franchise to continue in the future   8)  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: YAUTJA on Dec 05, 2007, 10:17:10 PM
eyesofthedemon, is right, 30 days of night's a 15, and that was realy gory, e.g.( peoples heads chewed off, axed off, cut in half with saws and chucked into a grinding machine-and yes you see evrything!), that includes a kid too!, so....i still have faith. AVPer is right too- i hate it wen the imature brats get in an jst mess about, totaly ruins it 4 us.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: predator343 on Dec 06, 2007, 12:26:51 AM
WOOT!! OU YES THX i can go to watsch this movie wohhei!!!!!   >:D     ;D     :D  .
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Rob - - - - - - ski on Dec 06, 2007, 01:09:08 AM
93 minutes long unedited from the American's cut. Let's hope that unlike AVP, that out it's 100 that 11 of them are credits, that it doesn't have long credits making the film shorter. Who has heard of a film with a WHOLE NINTH of their film JUST CREDITS!!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: zen on Dec 06, 2007, 02:14:41 AM
If theres a whole lot of people working on the film then you whould need longer credits to show all of they're names,whereas if you've only got about three guys then the credits can be shown at the begining and it'll take only about 4 seconds.Also keep in mind people that when Wilma Flintstone got pregnant EVERYONE went ballistic!.Now in everyother cartoon someone is pregnant.In the T.V. show The Munsters Lily and Herman shared a bed together,and back then spouses had seperate beds and a bed in the attic to....you know.And when the movie PSYKO came out everyone said it was too violent,and people actualy screamed in the theaters!.Now you see more violence in that T.V. show Family Guy.So just relax and calm down!!!   ;D  .
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: ChAoS on Dec 06, 2007, 02:15:06 AM
dont worry this film will be great,dont be fooled by the 15 cert.as long as its a good film it dont matter,avp(2) is very gorey from the looks of it so why whine.  i understand that a 15 here is very gruesome but i watched saw4 other day and that had hardly any gore wat so ever.and thats an 18.very confusing.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: zen on Dec 06, 2007, 02:21:05 AM
G:general audience. PG:parental guidance suggested. PG-13:parental guidance suggested for children under 13. R:restricted,no children under 17 alowd without a parent or gaurdian. NC-17:No children under 17 alowd.  Just thought you'd like to know!   ;D  .
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: zen on Dec 06, 2007, 02:28:15 AM
Also for those of you who are still complaining about the shortness of the movie,P1 was 107 minutes long because they needed to introduce the predator.A1 was 117 minutes long because they needed to introduce the alien.In AVPR you dont need the extra 20 minutes to introduce the E.T.s because you already know about them and so if they did re-introduce the E.T.s you'd be sitting there for 20 minutes going "Oh geez!.When is it going to get to the good parts!?!".94 minutes is enough time to fully cover the story   ;D  .
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: zen on Dec 06, 2007, 02:37:08 AM
AVPer:How old were you when A1 came out?.I was less the 2 years old when P2 came out.I for one think that every person has the same right to see it.No matter what they're age.And just because some person say's that they're not going to see it does'nt mean you dont have to!.If my family say's that they're not going to see it then that's fine,because i'll just walk the 20 or so miles through snow and ice and wild animals to go see it at the theater   ;)  .
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Futurfry on Dec 06, 2007, 03:49:29 AM
Not that I care, but how could the BBFC rate this movie so low? I mean, don't you guys remember the very first trailer we saw? You know, the red banned trailer, where the two guys get their heads blasted off, another person gets his face ruined by the Aliens's acid and one more character gets an Alien's tail right trought his head, do you remember that one? Wasn't that at all contet for a strongly R rated motion picture? I'm adult anyway, so I don't worry about not getting my tickets because of my age, but I'm sort of confused that this kind of material is meant to be consumed by youths. Yeah, nowadays they're used to intense gore in the media and the majority can handle it, but what do you have to produce in those days, to get an "Horror"-movie for grown ups only?  My thought is, that the mentioned scenes are cut pretty short. You know, like the chestbuster-sequence in the first AVP-film. Anyway... still looking forward to the final product.    :)  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: AVPer on Dec 06, 2007, 04:18:38 AM
zen, I was old enough. Ratings are in place for a good reason and anyone not old enough to get in and see them shouldn't be allowed. So no, every person does NOT have the same right to see it if they aren't old enough. If that was the case there would be no movie ratings and every movie would be exempt from classification. And I wanted AvP-R to be an 18 because I don't wan't to be in a cinema with a load of under 15's who managed to get in who shouldn't even be in there watching it. The Alien & Predator movies are adult movies, not kid movies like the first AvP was. Being one of the older fans who have grown up with the franchise I wanted this movie to be an 18 which is one of the things that alot of the older fans wanted to see happen.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Richardus on Dec 06, 2007, 05:20:44 AM
I won’t have to pretend to be 18 now, when I go into the cinema.   :)     ;D  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Starkiller on Dec 06, 2007, 11:50:58 AM
AVPer zen, I was old enough. Ratings are in place for a good reason and anyone not old enough to get in and see them shouldn't be allowed. So no, every person does NOT have the same right to see it if they aren't old enough. If that was the case there would be no movie ratings and every movie would be exempt from classification. And I wanted AvP-R to be an 18 because I don't wan't to be in a cinema with a load of under 15's who managed to get in who shouldn't even be in there watching it. The Alien & Predator movies are adult movies, not kid movies like the first AvP was. Being one of the older fans who have grown up with the franchise I wanted this movie to be an 18 which is one of the things that alot of the older fans wanted to see happen ____________________  I agree
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Elder Predator on Dec 07, 2007, 08:07:01 AM
FINE WITH ME AS LONG AS IT IS NICE N GORY I AM FINE plus i can see it
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: AVP FAN on Dec 07, 2007, 09:40:25 AM
Who cares about UK!   :P  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Keyes on Dec 08, 2007, 06:18:09 AM
I do muppet ^^  Our rating system is very wierd. Die Hard 4 was a PG-13 in the US and a 15 here. Get this though.... Terminator 3 was a US "R" rated and here a 12A! I couldn't believe it! My little cousin was freaked out during the "hand-through-the-driver's-body" scene   ;D  
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: nick on Dec 08, 2007, 06:27:48 AM
AVP FAN | 06 Dec 2007 21:3955 Who cares about UK!   ______________________________________  everyone!
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: Wurz on Dec 08, 2007, 10:52:57 AM
What a surprise. Another thing to add to the growing 'crap heap of bad things' about this movie.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: maraskin on Dec 11, 2007, 06:42:41 AM
Why thats film is so short!   >:(   It sopoust to have more than 100. 120  4 example. grrrrrrr
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: bonafide1498 on Dec 11, 2007, 06:44:14 AM
  ;)   I just wanna go see it, i dont care if it was rated G! Its gonna be awesome nomatter what.
Title: Re: AvPR Rated 15 in UK
Post by: andrew macmillan on Dec 28, 2007, 06:39:45 AM
ooo great its a 15 im 15 and i live in the uk and i was getting a bit scard it was going to be a 17 or an 18    :D     :D     :D     :)     :)     :)