Egg on Sulaco

[Local Trouble]

Bishop knew the egg was onboard the whole time though. Goo congealing into an egg. Wtf, I'd like to know when the queen shat that out.

Bishop didn't know anything until Ripley plugged him into the ship's flight recorder.

And the queen could have shat out the goo at any point that she was trudging around the landing bay chasing Newt or fighting Ripley.

[StrangeShape]

So are you suggesting that Bishop's behavioral programming could be easily overruled by a sinster SO-937 type order that was already installed?

Most likely impossible in-universe, and makes no sense as Bishop had plenty of opportunities to acquire a specimen.  He would've taken advantage of Burke and all of his antics, too.

I've been thinking that the placement of the egg, as well as the time the queen spent on the Sulaco, are meant to suggest that she 'stuck' the egg somewhere under the floor grates while pursuing Newt.  It could've been a different section that was just off camera in the film.

Hell, she could've stuck it down there to get at Newt specifically.  The placement fits with the queen reaching down and sticking it to the beam.

Bishop was watching her all the time tho

[RagingDragon]

True

Bishop was watching her all the time tho

True, but he was also ripped in half.  Could've had plenty of damage.

Also, just because he was watching her doesn't mean the audience got to see everything the queen was doing.  There was a bit of a gap after Ripley closes the hangar door before she suits up.

[Vermillion]

Nobody was watching bishop flying the Dropship after he dropped Ripley off. Hicks was out cold.

At least you saw the Dropship rise from the processing station's bowels. Right where the eggs were laid!

Queen did not have an egg with her. Do you see one when she is getting outta the elevator? 

[RagingDragon]

50 minutes flight time?  That's over an hour and a half round-trip.

And the dropship landed on a high platform...

I don't personally buy the queen-carrying-egg, but prefer the emergency egg (which I believe would be created by bathing a standard, but premature, egg with Royal Jelly, which could explain having an egg with no egg sac) and the super-hugger.

It's really the only explanation that makes any sense at all to me, though it still has plenty of holes.

[OmegaZilla]

I personally like the theory following which Cosmo and Wanda made the egg appear there -- after Timmy wished for it to happen.

[stephen]

Bishop knew the egg was onboard the whole time though. Goo congealing into an egg. Wtf, I'd like to know when the queen shat that out.

No he didn't.

[StrangeShape]

At least you saw the Dropship rise from the processing station's bowels. Right where the eggs were laid!

Which ones, the ones that Ripley just burned, threw grenades at, and collapsing station and explosions in the last minutes turned to dust? And how would Ripley miss him? She went down into the hive in minutes, not to mention aliens wouldnt let him take any of the eggs. Gunfire or battle wouldve been audible, if Bishop was somewhat able to quickly teleport to the egg chamber before Ripley got it

[SM]

Bishop getting an egg places the humans in danger, which he programmed not to do and, oddly enough, he never does.

[Also, just because he was watching her doesn't mean the audience got to see everything the queen was doing.  There was a bit of a gap after Ripley closes the hangar door before she suits up.

There's no gap.  The Queen is ripping up floor plates trying to get Newt and Bishop is watching her do it.

[Vermillion]

Bishop getting an egg places the humans in danger, which he programmed not to do and, oddly enough, he never does.

[Also, just because he was watching her doesn't mean the audience got to see everything the queen was doing.  There was a bit of a gap after Ripley closes the hangar door before she suits up.

There's no gap.  The Queen is ripping up floor plates trying to get Newt and Bishop is watching her do it.

Wouldn't flying Ripley into the atmospheric processor (about to go nuclear) filled with aliens with razor sharp teeth and sword like tails, be putting humans in danger?

He used that plan to grab the egg people!

[stephen]

Bishop getting an egg places the humans in danger, which he programmed not to do and, oddly enough, he never does.

[Also, just because he was watching her doesn't mean the audience got to see everything the queen was doing.  There was a bit of a gap after Ripley closes the hangar door before she suits up.

There's no gap.  The Queen is ripping up floor plates trying to get Newt and Bishop is watching her do it.

Wouldn't flying Ripley into the atmospheric processor (about to go nuclear) filled with aliens with razor sharp teeth and sword like tails, be putting humans in danger?

He used that plan to grab the egg people!

Not directly.  Bishops quote "It is impossible for me to harm or by omission of action, allow to be harmed, a human being."

He is not harming Ripley by flying her in.

He does not leave and picks her and newt up completly fulfilling that quote.

Whereas the whole point of Bishop getting the egg is so that the facehugger can get a human in direct contradiction to that quote.

Yes he could have been lying but all evidence - ALL EVIDENCE points to the fact that he wasn't.

[Vermillion]

Wow.  He knows it goes nuke. He knows those things kill humans. He know Ripley is going in way over matched and out manned/aliened. He also knows the facility is falling apart!

[stephen]

Wow.  He knows it goes nuke. He knows those things kill humans. He know Ripley is going in way over matched and out manned/aliened. He also knows the facility is falling apart!

Correct - but he also knew that Ripley would have blown his head off if he refused.

He's not harming her.  An alien might harm her.  The explosion might.  But Bishops direct actions have not harmed her.

[StrangeShape]

Not to mentipn there wpuld be no reason to save her. If he got the  egg  why  not  leave  her

[stephen]

Not to mentipn there wpuld be no reason to save her. If he got the  egg  why  not  leave  her

bingo.