So has anyone run into one yet? I've not managed to find any.
I've not found any yet, but I've been playing most of my matches so far as the Predator so I assume they're more difficult to find that way than if you're playing as a human.
I wonder if this is Arnold
youtube shows a predator grabbing it in the same place I've looked for it as a human and all those times as a human, i still can't find it. So it has to be a predator thing.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Apr 24, 2020, 11:08:00 PM
youtube shows a predator grabbing it in the same place I've looked for it as a human and all those times as a human, i still can't find it. So it has to be a predator thing.
Looks like it can be attained with the fire team:
The recording are pretty neat.
Spoiler
Lots of expanded lore, including Dutch. You can get a sample from youtube.
Quote from: AnthaiHero on Apr 25, 2020, 07:07:36 PM
The recording are pretty neat.
Spoiler
Lots of expanded lore, including Dutch. You can get a sample from youtube.
Does the lore undo the bs the last movie did and actually restabilish the Predator as Hunters for Sport?
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 25, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
Quote from: AnthaiHero on Apr 25, 2020, 07:07:36 PM
The recording are pretty neat.
Spoiler
Lots of expanded lore, including Dutch. You can get a sample from youtube.
Does the lore undo the bs the last movie did and actually restabilish the Predator as Hunters for Sport?
Unknown. Only listened to a couple.
Seems like it's random if it spawns or not
So this is what Arnold recorded for?
I would imagine
Found one, was only able to do so when I had one good fireteam (One game out of all that made me level 62) where no one would shoot but use the knife and silencer against AI. The Predator couldn't find us and we carefully searched each area, was a good game and I found an OWLF recording. Did not bother opening it yet.
I suppose the best is to be able to launch a private match alone and go for the search of the OWLF recording alone.
Once you reach a certain level (Berzerker+combistick), the game becomes absolute nightmare and you don't stand a chance if your team don't understand teamwork and that the Predator should always be the priority, not the objectives.
Just tried looking for them in a private match and couldn't find any. I'm not 100% how this is even supposed to spawn.
RidgeTop found a few. They seem to be randomized, close to structures versus lost in the jungle somewhere, but still very hard to find. :-\
Yeah if they're anything like the audio tapes in Friday the 13th they won't spawn every time. They'll be totally random both in placement and in the matches they might spawn in.
From the sound of it, I think Jake Busey reprises his role as the son of Gary Busey in the film played by Peter Keyes
I can confirm these are random in whenever they spawn in or not, not sure about locations, but you can find em in Private Matches, it's best to look for it as Pred, they seem very rare, out of the 10 matches I had looking for em I only found one(and I assure you, I looked through the ENTIRE map)
So far only gotten to listen to OWLF recordings...
01 - Onboarding
02 - Research
03 - Development
04 - Los Angeles
05 - Go Time
07 - Meeting Dutch
09 - Helmet and Arm
11 - Dutch and Team Dispatched
16 - Dutch's Run In
17 - Recovery
&
18 - Calm
So far, all reports from Sean Keyes spanning a range from 1996-2010, but we all know Stargazer is coming up on the horizon. Can't wait to hear more!
wait is that what they look like? Tbh things are so fast past I think I've grabbed 2 or 3 of them and not even known or paid attention.
Which ones are they? Post 'em up for all us sinners.
Quote from: SpaceKase on Apr 26, 2020, 10:46:33 PM
So far only gotten to listen to OWLF recordings...
01 - Onboarding
02 - Research
03 - Development
04 - Los Angeles
05 - Go Time
07 - Meeting Dutch
09 - Helmet and Arm
11 - Dutch and Team Dispatched
16 - Dutch's Run In
17 - Recovery
&
18 - Calm
So far, all reports from Sean Keyes spanning a range from 1996-2010, but we all know Stargazer is coming up on the horizon. Can't wait to hear more!
Can you share them?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2020, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Apr 26, 2020, 10:46:33 PM
So far only gotten to listen to OWLF recordings...
01 - Onboarding
02 - Research
03 - Development
04 - Los Angeles
05 - Go Time
07 - Meeting Dutch
09 - Helmet and Arm
11 - Dutch and Team Dispatched
16 - Dutch's Run In
17 - Recovery
&
18 - Calm
So far, all reports from Sean Keyes spanning a range from 1996-2010, but we all know Stargazer is coming up on the horizon. Can't wait to hear more!
Can you share them?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGbtS0GLwStJPysjATybgwf39Auo0KzF5
https://youtu.be/DVnDoCsXAeU?t=651
https://youtu.be/WAnuJMTnVf8?t=619
I found the tape out in the map twice now and i'm at lvl 50. First time I died end of story with no OWFL recording. Second time, I was downed once and got recusitated, still it didn't keep. So you have to have a perfect game. IMHO its very difficult to obtain but not impossible. If you have friends, insist on a private match and just explore and nothing else. Like the other post suggested, try to use stealth on AI too and see if there are more xp points or opportunities for remaining in stealth.
IMHO the tapes are interersting. Without spoilers, I don't think it produces anything cool, just a strange story. I don't think it make an interested sequel or game but who knows. Unless we see concept art then it is what it is.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2020, 08:33:51 AM
Can you share them?
Molesar is right on the money, I just scoured youtube yesterday. The lore is my jam, so that's always what I crave the most, which is why my emphases on researching any given game are always on the story elements. As much as I would like to play these, the fact is that my life is constantly in shambles, and anything I get involved in has the potential to quickly drop me down the rabbit hole. Like Creen Dinashin, I would quickly become a disheveled mess subsumed in an ever growing mountain of dirty dishes and kipple. It ain't pretty. So I tend to find peace in structuring large chaotic datasets into coherency to see what patterns naturally emerge. Hence the 3d star mapping projects.
Quote from: molasar on Apr 27, 2020, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2020, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: SpaceKase on Apr 26, 2020, 10:46:33 PM
So far only gotten to listen to OWLF recordings...
01 - Onboarding
02 - Research
03 - Development
04 - Los Angeles
05 - Go Time
07 - Meeting Dutch
09 - Helmet and Arm
11 - Dutch and Team Dispatched
16 - Dutch's Run In
17 - Recovery
&
18 - Calm
So far, all reports from Sean Keyes spanning a range from 1996-2010, but we all know Stargazer is coming up on the horizon. Can't wait to hear more!
Can you share them?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGbtS0GLwStJPysjATybgwf39Auo0KzF5
https://youtu.be/DVnDoCsXAeU?t=651
https://youtu.be/WAnuJMTnVf8?t=619
This stuff is such a gold-mine! Thanks for sharing it molasar!
Peter Keyes was the first to come up with the name "Predator". "City Hunter" code-name is canon. Hearing Sean react to his father's death was compelling. Learning what Dutch has been doing off-grid. The encounter of the first Female Predator and the trap she set. The EMP type bomb to disable only recovered Predator tech. Dutch's recovery using Predator blood sells (TREAD LIGHTLY HERE ILFONIC) so he could regenerate from his new wounds. So much added to the lore. Hellz yeah!!
Once all these tapes are found we have to combine these all into a 30-60 minute audio book!
So now I'm convinced Arnold did NOT record OWLF tapes. Keyes was designated to do so, and he is describing not only his experiences but Dutch's. And after hearing Dutch had recovered and was allowed to keep a combistick, yeah, I suspect the actual character of Dutch will be introduced in game. Woot!
I think it's safe to assume Arnie is in some.
There are more than 25 in the list. even more than 30 (i haven't had a chance to count them all).
So hoping tthere is some effort there or perhaps Arnold's Dutch will be in another VO thing in a dlc drop.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 28, 2020, 05:14:53 PM
I think it's safe to assume Arnie is in some.
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Hmm. But all 20 that he has say they're recorded by "Agent Keyes".
Quote from: acrediblesource on Apr 26, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
From the sound of it, I think Jake Busey reprises his role as the son of Gary Busey in the film played by Peter Keyes
Had anyone noticed that the soldier/character in the silver OWLF chopper that had the guy nodding in approval of the capture of the Predator body, looks like Gary Busey (in the eyes) a bit? Or is that just me? :)
Quote from: bendinglight on Apr 28, 2020, 07:43:45 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Apr 26, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
From the sound of it, I think Jake Busey reprises his role as the son of Gary Busey in the film played by Peter Keyes
Had anyone noticed that the soldier/character in the silver OWLF chopper that had the guy nodding in approval of the capture of the Predator body, looks like Gary Busey (in the eyes) a bit? Or is that just me? :)
I dunno, I think that's just you. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/vm6rYr8/20200428-155823.jpg)
Anyway, Peter Keyes is dead by time Hunting Grounds is occurring. But Jake indeed voiced Sean Keyes which is so cool!
I'm so bummed! I finally found one after God knows how many matches but the predator killed me and I didn't get to keep it!
If I do a private match as the Predator and find one and just let the time run out, would I still get to keep it? Anyone try this successfully?
Nice!!!!
I wish he muted the music though... :-\
Quote from: Veteran Warrior on Apr 29, 2020, 05:14:21 AM
I'm so bummed! I finally found one after God knows how many matches but the predator killed me and I didn't get to keep it!
Same thing happened to me! >:(
QuoteIf I do a private match as the Predator and find one and just let the time run out, would I still get to keep it? Anyone try this successfully?
Yes. Ridgetop has collected several this way. You keep the XP and the recording. I have run several private matches myself but still have yet to find one though. :-\
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2020, 12:34:39 PM
Nice!!!!
The question is if we "will be hearing from him soon"?
well that proves the Busey kid did them all. Yes, how about HIM? Where is he in all dis?
Yeah, I have trouble believing they'd pay Ah-nuld some big bucks to reprise Dutch after 33 years for just recordings that most players won't actively collect or listen to more than once.
#DUTCHwillRETURN
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2020, 01:01:31 PM
Yeah, I have trouble believing they'd pay Ah-nuld some big bucks to reprise Dutch after 33 years for just recordings that most players won't actively collect or listen to more than once.
#DUTCHwillRETURN
https://media.giphy.com/media/WRCu97eqbcM4U/giphy.gif
While I never played F13 they did have a special character to come out right? Maybe the Fireteam calls in Dutch? We know he recorded for something and this is the only thing out. So maybe someone calls in and then gets to play as him? A content update is due in about a month and outside some cosmetics I could see this happening.
Yep, he probably will be the Tommy Jarvis of Predator: Hunting Grounds! :)
Could be a part of a content drop down the line.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2020, 12:34:39 PM
Nice!!!!
I wish he muted the music though... :-\
Quote from: Veteran Warrior on Apr 29, 2020, 05:14:21 AM
I'm so bummed! I finally found one after God knows how many matches but the predator killed me and I didn't get to keep it!
Same thing happened to me! >:(
QuoteIf I do a private match as the Predator and find one and just let the time run out, would I still get to keep it? Anyone try this successfully?
Yes. Ridgetop has collected several this way. You keep the XP and the recording. I have run several private matches myself but still have yet to find one though. :-\
Appreciate you, my good sir!
And on the topic of Dutch! I love the slow build up to his return!!!
Happy to help. :)
Recovered my first OWLF recording. It was super tense. I seriously considered hiding in the corner of the map and waiting it out so the Predator didn't kill me and risk losing it for another time. But I completed the mission and got to the chopper.
NOTE: I was playing with Kailem and he and the other fireteam had died. At the resurrection point, the OWLF recording sat next to it. Once Kailem resurrected, he was able to grab the OWLF recording too, but didn't keep it at the end - assuming because 1) it's a bug, should have disappeared and only goes to the first person who takes it... or my bet.. 2) Kailem had died in game, and only living players (not reinforcements) can finish the match with recordings. So just a 'heads up'.
Yeah it was weird. I was watching Voodoo running for the reinforcement station and we both saw the red glowing OWLF recording sitting on the table right next to it. He picked it up, then a few seconds later I spawned in and it was still there, so I grabbed it too.
Then after a very sweaty match we both managed to make it out, only I got no trophy pop and the game froze for a good few seconds when I went to the collectibles menu to see if I had it. When it eventually loaded, everything was still locked.
I thought it was weird that I was able to pick it up too since RidgeTop had said they weren't like the veritanium and could only be picked up by one person, so like Voodoo said it was likely a glitch to do with the respawning.
But on the plus side at least now I know what to look for!
Quote from: Kailem on May 01, 2020, 03:21:45 PM
Then after a very sweaty match we both managed to make it out
My secret to long life is hide behind you! ;D
This would have been me had I been downed that match:
I'm so torn between playing until I find all the recordings or just listening to them on YouTube! I haven't found one yet but constantly on the look out!
Got my first OWLF tape tonight; by killing a fire team member as the Predator and looting it off his corpse! :laugh:
So yeah that's a thing you can do, so be sure to keep an eye out for anything bright and shiny with the usual diamond pickup icon when you're claiming trophies (especially if it drops from the last guy at the end of the match!).
Quote from: Kailem on May 03, 2020, 12:49:56 AM
Got my first OWLF tape tonight; by killing a fire team member as the Predator and looting it off his corpse! :laugh:
So yeah that's a thing you can do, so be sure to keep an eye out for anything bright and shiny with the usual diamond pickup icon when you're claiming trophies (especially if it drops from the last guy at the end of the match!).
Awesome to know! Good looking out
I have accumulated 4 OWLF tapes so far. All in Quick Play and none in Private Matches, so I've given up on the RidgeTop method.
The last two I found as a Predator and then immediately gave up hunting the fire team to avoid the risk of losing it. The fireteam never had it so easy! :D
Quote from: Kailem on May 03, 2020, 12:49:56 AM
Got my first OWLF tape tonight; by killing a fire team member as the Predator and looting it off his corpse! :laugh:
So yeah that's a thing you can do, so be sure to keep an eye out for anything bright and shiny with the usual diamond pickup icon when you're claiming trophies (especially if it drops from the last guy at the end of the match!).
Congrats Kailem! I had no idea you can swipe it though! I wonder if a fireteam member can do the same, i.e. take it from a dead fireteam member? If so, I'll be sure to shoot an exploding barrel when they're standing by one! ;D
I think you can. A few of us were on last night and we found a tape (which we were all able to grab, so it seems it's not just something one person can collect at a time), then a bit later Ridgetop got killed and it appeared next to his body.
Nobody picked it up since we all had it already, but it definitely still gave me the prompt when I went near it. So definitely something to keep an eye out for!
Quote from: Kailem on May 05, 2020, 03:29:16 PM
I think you can. A few of us were on last night and we found a tape (which we were all able to grab, so it seems it's not just something one person can collect at a time), then a bit later Ridgetop got killed and it appeared next to his body.
Nobody picked it up since we all had it already, but it definitely still gave me the prompt when I went near it. So definitely something to keep an eye out for!
So is this confirmation that all 4 fireteam members (and a Predator for that matter) can pick up the same recording and finish with it, if alive?
Yep. We all got out with it, except Ridgetop who couldn't make it back to his body in time after getting reinforced.
I noticed on the recent patch notes there was something about "fixing an issue with collectibles not registering", so I feel like there was probably a bug that prevented me from getting the one we found when we were playing together.
Ah. Excellent!
Oh yeah, I also noticed you get a little OWLF tape-looking icon on your hud next to your veritanium icon that indicates when you've picked one up, so that's good to keep an eye out for too if you pick one up off a dead body or something (unless it's still glitched).
Yeah, I noticed that icon too when I got my first one with you.
So far I've only found 2 OWLF recordings and both were from private matches as the predator. I used the whole 15 minutes to search. I found both inside buildings
I recently listened to all the OWLF recordings on YouTube and I must say well done to illfonic and Jake Busy on these. Really expands the lore and such good voice work.
Spoiler
Like that Dutch is still alive and playing a big part, lots of Predator 2 references. Same with Harrigan.
Like the female Predator wiping out Ditches team and wounding him too.
Only part I didn't like was the comment about the speculation of the Predators not inventing their own tech. That makes them weaker as a species. It's better that they did invent their own tech since that shows how smart they are as a species rather then taking it from somewhere else.
Hope we get a lot more of these in the future!
Indeed. These are wonderful additions to the lore!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 10, 2020, 05:40:17 PM
Indeed. These are wonderful additions to the lore!
Hey Voodoo Magic question about your demand better Predators signature. How do you feel about the job that Illfonic did on the faces of the male and female Predators?
Quote from: shadowedge on May 10, 2020, 06:02:38 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 10, 2020, 05:40:17 PM
Indeed. These are wonderful additions to the lore!
Hey Voodoo Magic question about your demand better Predators signature. How do you feel about the job that Illfonic did on the faces of the male and female Predators?
This one? ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/LQP6Q6p/IMG-20190321-130005.jpg)
Yeaaaaah buddy!! I feel Illfonic has done a fine job. Here is Hicks' face as a male example:
(https://i.ibb.co/kX8bGLS/PS-Messages-20200509-183855.png)
And female:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Hunting-Grounds-PAX-South-27.jpg)
Diagonal brows. X mandibles. No broken jaws. I'm loving it!
Much better than this flat browed, broken jawed bobble-head Fugitive that can hold pencils in his mandible flapper folds and hurts me worse than an ice cream headache!
(https://i.ibb.co/jWFWVyP/IMG-20191117-093525.png)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 11, 2020, 02:14:05 AM
Quote from: shadowedge on May 10, 2020, 06:02:38 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 10, 2020, 05:40:17 PM
Indeed. These are wonderful additions to the lore!
Hey Voodoo Magic question about your demand better Predators signature. How do you feel about the job that Illfonic did on the faces of the male and female Predators?
This one? ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/LQP6Q6p/IMG-20190321-130005.jpg)
Yeaaaaah buddy!! I feel Illfonic has done a fine job. Here is Hicks' face as a male example:
(https://i.ibb.co/kX8bGLS/PS-Messages-20200509-183855.png)
And female:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Hunting-Grounds-PAX-South-27.jpg)
Diagonal brows. X mandibles. No broken jaws. I'm loving it!
Much better than this flat browed, broken jawed bobble-head Fugitive that can hold pencils in his mandible flapper folds and hurts me worse than an ice cream headache!
(https://i.ibb.co/jWFWVyP/IMG-20191117-093525.png)
Awesome, glad you are happy with it! I think the designs look amazing too! Really wonderful what they did with the faces and staying true to the Winston designs instead of the broken jawed new ones. Plus they can close their mouths!
I get the feeling that the tapes usually spawn under special cercumstances. Anyone else get that feeling too?
Its as if sometimes and only times when a game is unusually quiet or that you've sucessfully mowed down the predator past two medical emergencies within the first 5 minutes of the match does it pop up.
Quote from: acrediblesource on May 11, 2020, 08:56:08 PM
I get the feeling that the tapes usually spawn under special cercumstances. Anyone else get that feeling too?
Its as if sometimes and only times when a game is unusually quiet or that you've sucessfully mowed down the predator past two medical emergencies within the first 5 minutes of the match does it pop up.
I wouldn't know much about special parameters but I have found them in private matches fairly quickly. My first was almost a minute away from my spawning.
Quote from: shadowedge on May 11, 2020, 07:44:28 PM
Awesome, glad you are happy with it! I think the designs look amazing too! Really wonderful what they did with the faces and staying true to the Winston designs instead of the broken jawed new ones. Plus they can close their mouths!
#StanTheMan
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 12, 2020, 12:01:31 AM
Quote from: shadowedge on May 11, 2020, 07:44:28 PM
Awesome, glad you are happy with it! I think the designs look amazing too! Really wonderful what they did with the faces and staying true to the Winston designs instead of the broken jawed new ones. Plus they can close their mouths!
#StanTheMan
https://66.media.tumblr.com/3ab7516e3eaa79a11367a3fedcc516b6/tumblr_nl7pj5D1nC1u1vwpho2_500.gif
https://66.media.tumblr.com/35be99234853e4b07901724ae9db7fe3/tumblr_or8kglRR9l1rp0vkjo1_500.gif
Absolute masterpieces 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
Quote from: shadowedge on May 10, 2020, 05:23:37 PM
Spoiler
Only part I didn't like was the comment about the speculation of the Predators not inventing their own tech. That makes them weaker as a species. It's better that they did invent their own tech since that shows how smart they are as a species rather then taking it from somewhere else.
That's a theory that I've always quite liked in regards to the Predators.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on May 11, 2020, 09:15:39 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on May 11, 2020, 08:56:08 PM
I get the feeling that the tapes usually spawn under special cercumstances. Anyone else get that feeling too?
Its as if sometimes and only times when a game is unusually quiet or that you've sucessfully mowed down the predator past two medical emergencies within the first 5 minutes of the match does it pop up.
I wouldn't know much about special parameters but I have found them in private matches fairly quickly. My first was almost a minute away from my spawning.
We've also found that they tend to spawn a lot on the Railyards/Trainyards (can't remember what it's called atm) map.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 12, 2020, 08:22:56 AM
Quote from: shadowedge on May 10, 2020, 05:23:37 PM
Spoiler
Only part I didn't like was the comment about the speculation of the Predators not inventing their own tech. That makes them weaker as a species. It's better that they did invent their own tech since that shows how smart they are as a species rather then taking it from somewhere else.
That's a theory that I've always quite liked in regards to the Predators.
Would them figuring out how to use stolen tech and making it their own really make them any less? I mean its already impressive when humans manage to figure out Pred tech in other media. Re-Engineering alien tech takes a whole lot of intelligence after all since its a whole different form of sciences and engineering that no one would be familiar with, its uncharted territory by then.
So if anything, it would still make them smart right?
Even if they aren't the ones to have actually made those advances they are clearly knowledgeable enough on how to build it and maintain it. They pilot spaceships, have wormholes, and a shoulder mounted plasma weapon sometimes in bulk just casually on them. They even made a giant brick shithouse of an assassin so clearly they know a thing or six about genetics. If they're just getting technology from another race I'd have a problem with that but if the tech was taken from another and just adapted to fit them, that's fine.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/predator-hunting-grounds/owlf-recordings/
Transcriptions of all recordings.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 15, 2020, 05:35:45 PM
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/predator-hunting-grounds/owlf-recordings/
Transcriptions of all recordings.
Ah wicked! You are awesome, Hicks, or, I guess Xenomorphine! Thanks!
So no Arnold voiceover there. What did he record for?
Quote from: Wweyland on May 15, 2020, 08:07:48 PM
So no Arnold voiceover there. What did he record for?
Dutch's tapes are not a part of OWLF recordings.
Here is one of them.
http://players.brightcove.net/219646971/default_default/index.html?videoId=6155880165001
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 15, 2020, 05:35:45 PM
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/predator-hunting-grounds/owlf-recordings/
Transcriptions of all recordings.
Man the story told in those recordings is awesome. Perfect for a Predator movie, I was loving the whole thing. Shame they included Stargazer. I don't want that disgusting movie being referenced in anyway Predator media. Let it die.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 15, 2020, 05:35:45 PM
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/predator-hunting-grounds/owlf-recordings/
Transcriptions of all recordings.
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Quote from: molasar on May 15, 2020, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on May 15, 2020, 08:07:48 PM
So no Arnold voiceover there. What did he record for?
Dutch's tapes are not a part of OWLF recordings.
Here is one of them.
http://players.brightcove.net/219646971/default_default/index.html?videoId=6155880165001
Once the new DLC is out, we'll post them all up too.
I can confirm that Hicks is correct with regard to the OWLF Recordings being common on the Derailed Map. However, I read earlier in this thread or somewhere else--I'm not sure--that one must have a perfect match to keep the recording. I thought so, too, as I had found one on the Derailed Map in the big warehouse with the chemical bombs, but I found later that I had never lost it: I still kept it.
It seems the first to grab it actually gets the recording. The rest who follow think they have it, then angrily chucks their controller against the wall after the match is over when they realize they don't.
We've had games where all of us got the tape and unlocked it at the end.
And I've experienced the opposite as well. So weird...
I saw an interesting theory on a YouTube video putting forth the idea that certain OWLF recordings appear only on certain maps. Does anyone have evidence to disprove this? Personally, I hope it's true, but I don't remember where I found the recordings so I can neither disprove or prove.
Here's the video where I saw it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbdjQoQAoyE&lc=Ugyt_GPKZfiVqgvwlul4AaABAg.97y6z60FdAo99-zmRCyV_z
Follow these easy steps to farm OWLF Recordings!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 28, 2020, 08:00:46 PM
Follow these easy steps to farm OWLF Recordings!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY_fKtchTbo
With the dead soldier there it honestly looks like the tapes are pouring out his body.
So therefore the tapes are IN the bodies of the AI. Must kill more.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 28, 2020, 08:00:46 PM
Follow these easy steps to farm OWLF Recordings!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY_fKtchTbo
Now its only trying to escape alive before the Pred gets ya! :laugh: Yes, dog diggity damm how are people just that lucky?
It still only gives you the one, unfortunately. :laugh:
If that... :-\
#Iwasrobbedmultipletimes
Yeah it really feels like it just doesn't register tapes if you get them from that shantytown area on Overgrowth. I've had at least three mysteriously disappear when I've escaped after getting one from there.
Ever since the last update, the recordings are extremely easy to find, I'm fairly certain they spawn in every match now rather than having a 10-something-% chance of spawning like at launch, nevertheless I already have all of them, but if any of you want to farm em, you can set your private matches to make you super fast and give you 5 times more gear, then just use the UAVs to find em
Here is the new complete set! Lets dig in shall we? ;D
Will be listening shortly! Can't wait!
Listened through those all last night. Mostly covers the events leading up to, during, and after 2018's The Predator.
Some interesting bits:
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-Funnily enough the 'Predator Killer' armor suit ends up being a barely functional prototype. Some gift to humanity that was! Quinn McKenna didn't last too long as the new head of an attempted reform of Stargazer because of his limited experience. Sean was working on using the leverage of collected evidence of Stargazer's past crimes to get the OWLF reinstated.
-I do find it kinda strange that Sean Keyes is insistent that the OWLF's policy was to never attempt to capture live specimens, though this is exactly what his father was trying to do. But perhaps that's why such a policy was implemented?
-Not much detail into Isabelle's escape, just that she was piloting a Predator ship and alerted a satellite with Morse Code in Predator symbols: "I am human."
-Apparently she was piloting and arrived in the craft alone, though Sean describes her as "one of two who escaped." Sean is astonished to learn from Isabelle that the Predators are snatching people up to hunt on other worlds.
There is an important info, thanks to these new OWLF recordings: they reveal that the movie Predators happened in 2024 (the game being in 2025, and Isabelle being off-Earth since a year).
It seems that
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Keyes may be a new player character in a future update.
Very cool! Just listened and loved it! And as others have stated we now know that Predators takes place after The Predator.
So instead of a Predator killer player character we get that it's a barely functional prototype Fugitive had no business actually bringing to Earth and Assassin had no reason to actually go after him over? A barely functioning "weapon" that would've been a lot of fun to actually use but we're potentially getting a playable Sean Keyes, f**k off. I get that after the shit the studio put Boyd Holdbrook through he probably doesn't wanna come back but that's a complete waste. At least give the damn thing to Sean so it'd make more sense why he can suddenly take on a Predator.
Like a way you could've made that work is that Assassin answered to her and Fugitive knowing Cleopatra is a f**king lunatic ran off with her gear and ended up on Earth to try and get the suit to somebody who'd know how to study it and his biology to realize the Predators are making mutants and superweapons. He ends up with Stargazer and not the OWLF and think's he needs to bolt which leads to his death. It's a gift but he didn't make it to the right people. This would've explained his capture as he left the gauntlet for an OWLF agent, he got Quinn, the agents arrive, but he got Stargazer, he attacks the lab when he realizes the OWLF is gone and needs to bolt. You could explain the necessity for Cleopatra doing this by expanding on her fight with Dutch. Maybe Dutch is such a bad ass that Cleopatra needs to cheat. She can't take him in a fair fight and needs to be amped up in order to bring her down.
Instead they chose the lamest answer they could when you could've easily fixed the fourth film's plot threads from the rewrite and weaved it into the ongoing narrative. Instead it's this detour that makes even less sense now that Illfonic has had its hands on it.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jul 02, 2021, 01:21:45 AM
You could explain the necessity for Cleopatra doing this by expanding on her fight with Dutch. Maybe Dutch is such a bad ass that Cleopatra needs to cheat. She can't take him in a fair fight and needs to be amped up in order to bring her down.
Instead they chose the lamest answer they could when you could've easily fixed the fourth film's plot threads from the rewrite and weaved it into the ongoing narrative. Instead it's this detour that makes even less sense now that Illfonic has had its hands on it.
I could have argued that, since the writers built up Cleopatra to be this hardcore badass elite Predator, that Dutch had to call in the Predator Killer suit just to make things even. Even Keyes mentioned that Dutch has no chance on his own end practically begged Dutch to cash in a few favors or bring in another team to back him up, let him help Dutch, knowing that Cleo would be even too much for the Predator Hunter himself. Dutch remembers the suit and asks for it to bring down Cleo, setting up for an interesting battle.
As for the Predator Killer, while I didn't like the concept, they really didn't need to make it a total piece of shit tech. All the advanced tech they have and somehow they can't get a power armor right? Weak to small arms fire, really? Never thought of using the same metal that makes up their armor? It just seems to make the Predators themselves even more moronic then ever before. It would have been just fine to say that Keyes and his team have difficulty powering it up past the 24 second mark before overload, and soon enough out of desperation, Dutch and Keyes figure it out to make it last long enough to take down Cleo once and for all. After the battle, the suit could be damaged outright unusable, ending the Predator Killer once and for all.
What I also got me slighted is that Keyes is so unimpressed with the suit that he barely even mentions how the nanotechnological achievements they can get from learning how to make powered armor store away in a gauntlet. Veritanium is the alloy made from Earth/Predator metals that is denser and stronger than both metals right? Can't they just learn how to replace some of the metal with that alloy and make it work or at least make an human variation of the Predator Killer that suits more to human needs made out of that alloy? They didn't need to dismiss it entirely, there were ways to work with it, but instead they threw away some possibly good story here.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jul 02, 2021, 03:39:35 AM
What I also got me slighted is that Keyes is so unimpressed with the suit that he barely even mentions how the nanotechnological achievements they can get from learning how to make powered armor store away in a gauntlet. Veritanium is the alloy made from Earth/Predator metals that is denser and stronger than both metals right? Can't they just learn how to replace some of the metal with that alloy and make it work or at least make an human variation of the Predator Killer that suits more to human needs made out of that alloy? They didn't need to dismiss it entirely, there were ways to work with it, but instead they threw away some possibly good story here.
Knowing there are 5-6 years between
The Predator and
Hunting Grounds, and that the Fireteam can pick up Veritanium during missions, I think the OWLF is working on an upgraded Predator Killer or accessories/weapons based on the prototype.
Why showing a post-credits with Rory, McKenna, a specialist in cybernetics and the Predator Killer, and talking about it in
Hunting Grounds being a prototype, if it's for not working on it during all these years?
Maybe we will see a future DLC with McKenna wearing an upgraded armor, joining Dutch, Dante and Isabelle.
In my mind when they went to power up the PK suit they couldn't figure out how to properly operate the suit so it shuts down on them. Or it needs to be connected to a Predator power source that the humans haven't acquired yet. Either way I'm not bothered by that aspect of the new recordings.
It just feels like wasted potential since as is it's thrown in the trash. And it hurts the fourth film more because it now had no reason to even be here. A few ways do exist to bring it back but as it's a waste. Like perhaps detailing a story of how it ended up in storage or maybe use it with Dutch to explain how he'd beat Cleopatra, but no it's in the garbage. Thing is for as bad an idea it is on film, it'd work fine for a videogame. A power suit as an upgrade for fireteam or a kind of Predator class would've been something but instead they chose to ignore it probably to get another football player or an OC Predator. And even if the design was a problem who cares? They've changed everyone else for 2025 depictions.
I know they've said they're not writers and to me it really showed here.
I have to agree with the general notion that the
first recordings of Keyes and Dutch were substantially better than Keyes Part II. The first recordings wonderfully filled in gaps in the Predator lore timeline, course corrected Stargazer to more of a villain organization, brought back OWLF, gave us the full backstory of what happened to Dutch after 1987. It righted so many wrongs! Outstanding. 👏
This second batch of recordings definitely did not live up to the first. There was was certainly more fluff over substance this time around.
The single recording dedicated to Isabelle's return was definitely fluff and disappointing, especially when it's stacked against the wonderful Dutch tapes. Tell us more about how living was like on the Reserve Planet. Maybe her & Royce teamed up with another human, or with a River Ghost and developed some sort of primitive crude sign language, acknowledging to work together to fight a common enemy. How did Isabelle acquire the ship? How did she understand the language? How did Royce and her split up? Maybe Royce stayed back at the last minute to create a diversion for another Super Predator so Isabelle could safely launch from the planet? Keyes has Isabelle's ship now in possession - what kind of great accomplishment is that? Nope, we basically got basically nothing.
And I can appreciate the desire to minimize, diminish and retcon as much of the lore damage The Predator caused, but the Predator Killer Suit = ineffective prototype was definitely weak sauce. Maybe have a Predator come back and steal it back even. Something. But this?
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jul 02, 2021, 01:21:45 AM
At least give the damn thing to Sean so it'd make more sense why he can suddenly take on a Predator.
Putting the Predator Killer suit in action on Keyes would just logically demand the technology reverse engineered and more suits put in action. So to me, I agree the 'how' they killed the suit was dumb, but killing the suit was the right way to go, necessary course correction.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jul 02, 2021, 01:21:45 AM
You could explain the necessity for Cleopatra doing this by expanding on her fight with Dutch. Maybe Dutch is such a bad ass that Cleopatra needs to cheat. She can't take him in a fair fight and needs to be amped up in order to bring her down.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jul 02, 2021, 12:09:42 PM
Like perhaps detailing a story of how it ended up in storage or maybe use it with Dutch to explain how he'd beat Cleopatra, but no it's in the garbage.
Are you under the impression that Dutch beat Cleopatra? Because in the recordings and the prequel novel Predator Stalking Shadows, Cleo owned Dutch's ass. She killed Dutch's entire team, handed Dutch's ass to him, scarred his face with a net gun and then let Dutch barely live as a warning. So there's no reason why Cleopatra would need the Predator Killer Suit to fight Dutch.
I'm saying that we're building up to it and with my suggestion of Cleo needing to cheat we flashback to the fight and we see that Dutch actually did more damage than he thought. Her pinning him to a wall and killing his buddies is out of spite as she's getting out of there. Now it's been awhile since the novel and I'm likely wrong but I'm only suggesting an avenue for how the suit could've been used rather than how it was.
I'm trying to suggest a better alternative than actively making the fourth film worse. I get it that people didn't like it but they had prime opportunity to fix it and they chose to f**k it up more.
Yeah, I can get that frustration.
Quote from: Agent Aztlan on Jul 02, 2021, 08:31:04 AM
Knowing there are 5-6 years between The Predator and Hunting Grounds, and that the Fireteam can pick up Veritanium during missions, I think the OWLF is working on an upgraded Predator Killer or accessories/weapons based on the prototype.
Why showing a post-credits with Rory, McKenna, a specialist in cybernetics and the Predator Killer, and talking about it in Hunting Grounds being a prototype, if it's for not working on it during all these years?
Maybe we will see a future DLC with McKenna wearing an upgraded armor, joining Dutch, Dante and Isabelle.
I hope they are working on it for story's sake. Keyes is a scientist and yet misses out on the possibilities of it all despite collecting Predator tech for years for said possibilities. Again, I can't stress this enough that the nanotechnology they have to study from would already be a boon to science and technology at such a unimaginable rate, just completely hand waved.
Speaking of possibilities, Keyes never even mentions the ship Isabelle showed up in or even the notion of Super Predators. He is already unnerved at the notion of Predators capturing humans and other beings to be hunted off world, but the notion of the criminal versions of the mainstream Predators who have no code of honor to inhibit them to do their worse should also have been noted by him. A group that hunts even their own should have been a game changer for OWLF to look out for. I mean, he did mentioned it in a way but it felt like he was generalizing all Predators and not the fact that this is even a deadlier fraction than the ones he is familiar with. That and the fact that they have a ship now to study also Keyes did not mention at all either, despite in a previous tape that how valuable and priceless having a ship would be yet nothing about it in the tapes before it.
I have to agree with Voodoo Magic on this one, this set isn't as strong as the first one. I liked the first half of the new set. Keyes talking about his experience at Stargazer, feeling helpless to stop them and trying to find ways to fight from within and the events during The Predator. After that, some of the tapes were less than what I hoped such as the examples I talked about earlier. Good but not great as the first set. Shame really.
Another link the suit could've made was with the supers. What if it was the supers planning to invade and take Earth from the regular Yaujta? The suit is then brought to us and to help fight off the supers but Fugitive didn't make it to the right people and he risks having died in vain. So when the presence of another similar case shows up with a group of Predators with a similar aesthetic, it suddenly means Fugitive might've been trying to warn us of something before he got bodied into a car.
And that's something they could've worked with regarding bringing in Predators. They don't want a live specimen especially after 2018 but they might've just screwed themselves since any number of Predators Voodoo bagged had information regarding the coming threat. In this way the player becomes a bit more invested because they might've just shot themselves in the foot once the Super Predator class arrives. Illfonic has had 2 years to figure out how players act and so can build a killing machine to counter them meaning that by playing the game we've essentially built the new Predator meta through the lore and how players play the game.
So I agree that this batch of recordings was probably the weakest of the 3 but I thoroughly enjoyed the explanations regarding the downfall of OWLF to the rise and fall of Stargazer to the need for Team Voodoo as Stargazer's rogue elements were destabilizing regions across the world. It ultimately looped the game and it's objectives into the timeline which I thought was pretty cool.
Is it wrong for me to say that axing out the continuation of OWLF is such a lame idea? I like how the writers made OWLF into an actual full fleshed out organization that is working hard to defend humanity rather then as a small footnote in Predator 2. Its like a small contrast compared to Weyland Yutani where one is a large and influential company that can control the government, exploits to use as weapons in the name of profit and power and the other is a smaller military organization that uses its knowledge to prevent further harm to Earth.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jul 03, 2021, 11:13:33 PM
Is it wrong for me to say that axing out the continuation of OWLF is such a lame idea? I like how the writers made OWLF into an actual full fleshed out organization that is working hard to defend humanity rather then as a small footnote in Predator 2. Its like a small contrast compared to Weyland Yutani where one is a large and influential company that can control the government, exploits to use as weapons in the name of profit and power and the other is a smaller military organization that uses its knowledge to prevent further harm to Earth.
It's likely tying up any loose ends before Fox loses the license. Probably so future writers can start fresh and if Fox does hang onto it, it becomes a post-The Predator status-quo. Not quite back where we started but pretty close to keep things consistent.
I hope we get Isabelle tapes at some point
Also, with Keyes joining Voodoo, I think this means we might get more interesting Mission VOs, with him guiding us alongside Zeus
The Predator Killer to me sounds like it was sent so we could find a way to re-purpose it, which actually fits within the new Plasma based weapons we have, so I'm fine with it, just wish Isabelle had a tape dedicated to her
The Isabelle tapes are here as was foretold!
Personally, I like em, but I have some minor gripes, which I'll spoiler tag.
Spoiler
I don't like the idea of Predators accepting humans as their own, always sounded too dumb to me, even with the girl from the OG Comics.
The idea of the Predators that come to hunt being dumb is fine, mostly, as if they were highschool jocks, but I don't like the impliance that ALL Predators are that dumb.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 31, 2021, 10:17:56 PM
The Isabelle tapes are here as was foretold!
Personally, I like em, but I have some minor gripes, which I'll spoiler tag.
Spoiler
I don't like the idea of Predators accepting humans as their own, always sounded too dumb to me, even with the girl from the OG Comics.
The idea of the Predators that come to hunt being dumb is fine, mostly, as if they were highschool jocks, but I don't like the impliance that ALL Predators are that dumb.
I actually do have that one issue Illfonic seems to hint that really rubbed me the wrong way:
Spoiler
I can accept adopting others into the clan as many cultures in our history had adopted those whom they deemed worthy to join. But saying that Predators don't even know how to operate half of their tech really is dumbing down on the race. I'm not about making Predators look stupid grugs who bang on the advanced tech with a club until it fixes itself out.
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If they want to say most Young Hunters are dumb, that's fine, but to imply all of their Race is dumb is just lame
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It's astounding how stupid that insinuation is. They can genetically engineer organisms, they can alter genetics, they have a working knowledge of alien anatomy, they can fly ships, they can open wormholes, they know how to build large structures, but they're a bunch of smooth brained morons? That is the thing that needed to be cut because it's a talking down for the title character and insinuates they aren't the "real" threat but whoever makes the technology is which rapidly approaches Alien Prequel territory of dumbing down the threat. No, they're frighteningly intelligent. The reason that the Predator is scary is that for all it's technological innovation, for all it's knowledge of the universe, it knows how to and wants to kill. It's not wanting to be your friend, it wants you mounted on its wall. It's the monster with the superiority complex and why it's juxtaposition against us is so effective. It looks and acts primal but this thing is beyond the intelligence of anything we can dream of on Earth hence the often failed efforts to take them alive.
If anything the monster not only emasculates its victims but it's smarter than you. It's confident because in every way it is better than you. That's why you have to fight dirty, that's why they have to lower themselves to your level because they will never give you the chance or if they do it's because we are that beneath them. You should never dress down the threat what the Hell Illfonic?
I get it, a lot of people didn't like 4 but it's bizarre how 4 had that much more respect for its villain than Illfonic does.
Delicious salt.
Damn, how do I love the extra effort that Illfonic did here. To have lore recordings of actors featured in Predator films is wonderful by itself, but to bring in two actors in from two different Predator films and have dialogue recorded between them is just off the charts fantastic for me. 👏
However with that said, I love this Alpha Predator lore. And what I love is the Predators embraced the Amengi technology... as well as "expanded upon" that technology.
(https://i.ibb.co/MnQWPGm/proxy.jpg)
But now, for that recording to suggest Predators are
Spoiler
too dumb to make simple repairs
...is just mind numbingly stupid to me.
All dumber than a bag of rocks apparently.
It's not something you'd want to do after 30+ years of franchise and a movie devoted to their mad science.
And it's not that every Predator needs to be a polymath. I can completely buy that not everyone is capable of or knows how to make repairs to their stuff. Even in the real world not everyone knows how to fix a car or how to build a house. Makes sense. The society would have people who'd be capable of doing that or even a sect dedicated to this. The Emissary was even meant to have been that. These guys don't see as much action because they're the guys busy building, repairing and doing the science needed to kill shit. Naturally despite being highly intelligent we can't expect them all to know how to fix a broken helmet especially in a foreign environment. They'd discard parts for practicalities sake. A broken helmet doesn't do you much good if the tactical advantage of using it is lost. And it might make some sense to discard it. If it doesn't work then it's just a hunk of metal that nobody can use. Nothing's risked by leaving it other than being a litter bug. And Predators are often successful offscreen so it's not like this happens often.
It's an idea that should've been dropped or used as an expansion on our villains. Say that this Predator felt he no longer needed the tech due to whatever modifications it received. Too broken and he didn't need it any longer. That would've given the tie-in to the film series and suggested a larger threat. 2018 wasn't an isolated incident and even suggest new gear items down the road. Like a no helmet cosmetic or gear item. You could even suggest they encountered a younger version of the Assassin since he ditched traditional gear. That could tie in with the four armed Predator suggesting something bigger was going on with the Game preserve given the hybrid's presence.
Instead all these latest lore drops from Illfonic feel reductive.
I've already head-cannoned that Isabelle was talking about the Super Predators. ;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 01, 2021, 03:02:50 PM
I've already head-cannoned that Isabelle was talking about the Super Predators. ;D
I like that idea much better...lol
As someone who likes the "Predator stole their technology" theory, I wouldn't go as far as to say "they're not very smart." I would have omitted that dialogue. But it's easy to work around anyway - they didn't see any techs or engineers because they were on a hunting preserve. Unless some of the engineers or techs went for their jollies here too, how many of us would know how to fix our cars if they broke down? That's why we have specialists we take them too.
Yeah I'm just taking it as "these ones are here to hunt, not to repair spacecraft."
So that's why they needed our smart juice.
Yeah, now their plan of weaponizing autism come full circle, The Predator was foreshadowing this reveal. Shane Black is a genius.
Spoiler
Isn't the idea of Predators not understanding their own tech in 'Forever Midnight'?
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 02, 2021, 12:25:47 AM
Spoiler
Isn't the idea of Predators not understanding their own tech in 'Forever Midnight'?
I don't think this is considered a spoiler anymore considering the age of the book, so yes, in the novel "Forever Midnight", the Hish Predators had the Amengi race in servitude creating all sorts of devices for them. While the Hish were presented in the novel across a vast spectrum of corny, stupid and incompetent behavior, I don't personally recall the Hish divulged as incapable. (Fast forward to last year when, thankfully, the Alpha Predator lore properly retconned the whole Hish / Amengi + BossFilms design into something much more satisfying in my opinion.)
Postscript: Ironically our podcast hit today discussing this very book!
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=65174.0;topicseen
Despite my strong dislike of this new info, there is one that caught my attention....
Spoiler
QuoteIts interesting that for a clan of bad bloods, the Super Predator clan is willing to adopt a non Predator into their fold. It adds more depth into them that we haven't seen even with the main stream canon, as usually this adopting a human into the tribe occurs in the comics. Royce going batshit insane, says he enjoys hunting people and takes up the offer to join them and see what they have in store for him is kind of sad to see him spiral down like this.
I honestly don't feel like that was the trajectory Royces character was going.
But what can you do.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 02, 2021, 03:26:29 PM
Despite my strong dislike of this new info, there is one that caught my attention....
QuoteIts interesting that for a clan of bad bloods, the Super Predator clan is willing to adopt a non Predator into their fold. It adds more depth into them that we haven't seen even with the main stream canon, as usually this adopting a human into the tribe occurs in the comics. Royce going batshit insane, says he enjoys hunting people and takes up the offer to join them and see what they have in store for him is kind of sad to see him spiral down like this.
Might want to put that in spoilers, for the people who havent heard/unlocked the tapes yet.
Like the new tapes but I'm not a fan at all of the last tape that says the Predators do not know how to repair their own equipment and that they are dumb. That diminishes their race as a whole and the Predator property itself. Hope that gets retconned really fast.
Quote from: Dachande on Sep 02, 2021, 04:59:23 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 02, 2021, 03:26:29 PM
Despite my strong dislike of this new info, there is one that caught my attention....
QuoteIts interesting that for a clan of bad bloods, the Super Predator clan is willing to adopt a non Predator into their fold. It adds more depth into them that we haven't seen even with the main stream canon, as usually this adopting a human into the tribe occurs in the comics. Royce going batshit insane, says he enjoys hunting people and takes up the offer to join them and see what they have in store for him is kind of sad to see him spiral down like this.
Might want to put that in spoilers, for the people who havent heard/unlocked the tapes yet.
Fixed it, honestly didn't catch how I missed this earlier. My bad
It's a shame the new OWLF and Isabelle recordings don't have dates. Keyes entry #20 was 8/29/2016. How far do you all think these new recordings move ahead in the timeline? Be nice to use this to place Predators and The Predator with solid dates, maybe help tie in Stalking Shadows & Hunters and Hunted.
I doubt Adrien Brody really cares, but learning this way, really sucks.