https://twitter.com/borys_kit/status/785990317833007105
Well that means they're still on with the movie I guess...
But so far everyone dropped out on them. Is something horribly wrong with the movie?
Oh man, if this is for the lead we are all in big trouble.
Boyd who or what? If it's for the lead I'm about to get authentically un excited. From Affleck to Cooper to this guy?! This better be for a supporting role. Or Boyd better drop out too lol.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 11, 2016, 11:55:20 PM
Oh man, if this is for the lead we are all in big trouble.
Boyd who or what? If it's for the lead I'm about to get authentically un excited. From Affleck to Cooper to this guy?! This better be for a supporting role. Or Boyd better drop out too lol.
The article says they're "beefing up for supporting roles", so maybe Del Toro was supposed to be supporting as well.
Lol no. It says right there Del Toro is being replaced by Holbrook for the lead.
Part of the fun of having an Affleck or a Cooper is that they don't need the movie. They're already propelled into stardom. And to see a true A lister in the movie is just so fun. Similar to Brad Pitt in WWZ. He didn't need the movie so it was fun to witness him in inherently B material that was given the A treatment.
I don't really care for the actors, just start shooting the damn thing.
Wow... what the hell... they can't seem to get anyone to commit to this thing. If it isn't rock-solid material I'd rather it not be made. Re-cast it, re-write it, hire a different effects crew, and then maybe this will eventually get made. Can't say I am too excited for this.
Boyd Holbrook is actually a pretty solid actor (See: Narcos), but he shouldn't be leading a film, let alone a Predator film that is going to be bigger then previous films.
Hopefully it's issues with filming schedules that's forced Del Toro and Franco to say no, and not the script itself.
Wow that's a bummer, I was really looking forward to Del Toro as the lead.
This sucks...do you all think this means the rest of the cast will be lesser known actors too?
Boyd was good in Narcos and hopefully is great in Logan but he's not Del Toro. What other actors is this guy going to lead?
If I were those guys, I'd ditch any other movie to work on Predator. They're all crazy.
Somebody needs to contact Adrien Brody. :P
It's not even that it's a Predator movie, it's that it's a SHANE BLACK-directed Predator movie. An A-list action storyteller.
These actors are crazy. Who wouldn't want to be in Shane Black Predator movie? Maybe all these actors want the honor of being killed by a Predator but their character gets to live?
It's just that it's a Shane Black movie, period. Shane is hot off a GOSLING/CROWE movie. Hell, get Hugh Jackman? Very disappointed in this C-list choice.
The Gossling/Crowe movie didn't do that well, did it?
No it didn't. Regardless, A-listers should want to work with Shane Black. Actually, casting those two guys was very quick and easy.
Quote from: overthere on Oct 11, 2016, 11:52:27 PM
Well that means they're still on with the movie I guess...
But so far everyone dropped out on them. Is something horribly wrong with the movie?
Only Del Toro officially dropped out. Franco was never formally attached. What everyone should be concerned about is Tom Hardy having nothing coming up and not being the lead in this obvious choice.
Wow... but not in a good way. From big star names to another tv actor as the lead in just a second.
Disappointing. :(
No offense to Del Toro but so what? Also having a tv actor making a debut in an action movie isn't that odd. The fact that this is news is a good sign that the movie is still on.
Loved Narcos! But is this guy good material for a predator film? I'm open to it, but he would need to be toughened up a little, which in Hollywood is easily done. Not sure I really care that much actually.
Wait, wait.... what? Because he's a tv actor?? Loads of a-list actors are doing tv-shows these days, tv is not the bottom of stardom as it was in the 90's. Look at shows like True Detective for example. No, him coming from a tv-show is definatly not something to be held against him.
All I care for is a good actor, and every article I read talks about Boyd as a good and solid performer on Narcos. Never saw it myself, not my show. But if you think a big name is more important than a solid actor, I think your priorities are askew. Just because someone's a big name, doesn't make him/her a good performer. Sure, Del Toro would have been awesome. But Franco? When his name was going around, I wasn't sure. Some of his stuff has been good, other things..... let's say not so much.
I wouldn't take that lead comment too seriously. It's an ensemble piece, Del Toro was just going to play the character that anchored them all together. Just because he's not a big a-lister, there's no need to hide from the falling sky. Personally I'd rather wait and see what he can do.
I've not seen Narcos yet but I'll be giving it a go tonight. Holbrook is also playing the villain in Logan which is out early next year so we'll see what he can do with a bigger film role then.
There's no denying it's a massive disappointment that Del Toro couldn't be in it but there's no need to go all Chicken Little on the film just yet.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 12, 2016, 03:32:02 AM
The Gossling/Crowe movie didn't do that well, did it?
Great reviews, great film, poor box office performance. As is the case.
On the bright-side, all the reposts of this news on Twitter mean I wont be seeing as many penises on there today.
Will always be a 'what if' now. Like what if we got James Remar instead of Michael Biehn, or Jon Finch instead of John Hurt.
Bunch of god damn headless chickens in this thread.
He's got something of the young Michael Biehn about him (was anooyed when they dropped him for Jai bloody Courtney in that last Terminator movie) and he's a great actor, so fine by me.
Arnie aside, Predator movies shouldn't really be big star vehicles. Big stars tend to survive, we need to fear for every character. It was important in the first one to get that Arnie was going to win, but from there on out all bets needed to be off. Also I like that Danny Glover and Adrien Brody (and now potentially Holbrook) aren't muscle-bound supermen, as we did that first time out. Dutch, Harrigan and Royce are all ultimately saved by tenacity and luck. As for being worthy of hunting, a lithe tiger is every bit as dangerous as an angry elephant.
Plus, if Arnie does come back, he needs to be a big deal. His being another star among stars would dampen the impact a bit.
well this movie is official going to suck now ugh !...
Who the f**k is this pansy next to Del Toro?
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Quote from: SiL on Oct 12, 2016, 03:32:02 AM
The Gossling/Crowe movie didn't do that well, did it?
But... it was a fantastic movie! I think it was very well received in Europe.
I'd suggest we go watch Nacros and Logan to get a feel for him before we curse out his casting. Seriously fellas.
Quote from: Xan21 on Oct 12, 2016, 09:32:37 AM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 12, 2016, 03:32:02 AM
The Gossling/Crowe movie didn't do that well, did it?
But... it was a fantastic movie! I think it was very well received in Europe.
Was such a fun movie! Really dug The Nice Guys.
I liked it too, but it was a weak movie for Black.
Can't comment on his acting but you have to question why so many big names found it hard to commit to the project. Considering the buzz around this was a big budget event movie, not having any A-List actors is a blow for the movie and marketing. Something isn't right. It wouldn't surprise me if Fox half the budget and we end up with another AvPR/Predators level movie.
I don't know what to say about this :D
If Black consideres him, he's probably a good actor.
But i was looking forward to someone with more star power behind him, being the lead in an event picture that is supposed to line up people. I just miss the "clash of the titans" feel the first movie has, when someone like Schwarzenegger is up against the seemingly unstoppable evil, you just get that attention when you cast people like The Rock, Del Toro, Hardy, Bale etc., established action heroes.
I'm not saying it won't work, i like Brody as Royce for example, i liked the Bear Grylls kind of charm he had, but i was hoping for a bigger lead this time.
So the general feedback from people being disappointed by this news is totally reasonable in my book, but it's good to hear the movie is going forward.
Please oh please, Shane Black. Just quit while your ahead and just wait until someone that's worth a crap signs!
Thanks,
A concerned Predator fan
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 11, 2016, 11:55:20 PMBoyd who or what? If it's for the lead I'm about to get authentically un excited.
His being unknown means what exactly?
Nobody knew who Weaver was before
Alien.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 12, 2016, 03:32:02 AMThe Gossling/Crowe movie didn't do that well, did it?
Put that down to it being a niche original story rather than something with a big franchise name attached to it. Black predicted as much at the Q&A I went to ahead of release.
The fact is, it was awesome, but it wasn't a Marvel movie.
Things would have been epic if Ben Affleck got the part. I'm just worried they can't seem to get an actor for this movie.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 12, 2016, 12:05:12 PM
The fact is, it was awesome, but it wasn't a Marvel movie.
I didn't think it was that great. I liked it, but it was just ... okay.
I see nothing wrong with Boyd Holbrook. I just saw a scene with him and he seems like a good actor, and without the star power behind him, we can get more immersed in the actual story and grow to like the character for himself, not because he's already loved.
You guys are overreacting. Movie history is full of examples where an unknown stepped in and took over the whole thing and got launched into stardom. The guy really looks like a decent actor with quite a range to him.
And since Fred Dekker confirmed "more actor announcements soon", that stupid theory of The Predator being canned is debunked.
Quote from: overthere on Oct 12, 2016, 02:33:07 AM
These actors are crazy. Who wouldn't want to be in Shane Black Predator movie? Maybe all these actors want the honor of being killed by a Predator but their character gets to live?
Or maybe the script isn't very good or they got cast in something better in the meantime. We can't judge these things without further information.
Remember, a lot of fandom was auto-triggered when it was revealed Adam Baldwin told the makers of '
Requiem' where to stick it when they wanted him to do a cameo. Then it got released and all that faux outrage quickly disappeared.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 12, 2016, 03:47:32 AM
Only Del Toro officially dropped out. Franco was never formally attached. What everyone should be concerned about is Tom Hardy having nothing coming up and not being the lead in this obvious choice.
I don't recall anything official about TH being attached, nor do I see why he's somehow a natural fit for this film. We don't even know what the story is, let alone who or what the character would have been or done.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 12, 2016, 07:01:30 AM
Loved Narcos! But is this guy good material for a predator film? I'm open to it, but he would need to be toughened up a little, which in Hollywood is easily done. Not sure I really care that much actually.
Casting Adrien Brody in '
Predators' was widely criticised, but he bulked up fine.
Let's not assume it
needs to be someone muscular, though. None of the characters in '
Predator 2' came across as terribly Arnold-like.
Honestly, if you have skills and talent for a given task, you don't necessarily need bulk. Crocodile Dundee wasn't a wimp, but he wasn't exactly Conan the Barbarian, either, but he came across as believeable as a tracker/hunter in his respective films.
Enough said...
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Your point? He isn't beefed?
I don't really care whether an actor is popular or rated as an A-star or whatever.
I do care that Boyd Holbrook looks more like one of the kids from AvP: Requiem than someone fitting for a lead in a new Predator film.
Well, in any case, we'll have to wait a few more days and find out directly from Shane Black himself about it.
Here's hoping this is fake and Shane is just messing around with people.
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Oct 12, 2016, 01:15:53 PM
Enough said...
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That's a bit unfair...
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Surely would have prefered someone more edged. Someone like Josh Brolin would have been cool too.
The first impression at the moment is just that he looks too much like the poster boy of a 13 year old fangirl, but i'll stay open minded for now.
What folk should just be hoping for is that he's talented and right for whatever role he is in. All of which remains to be seen. Image matters very little.
It'll be intriguing casting. Shame that it was schedule that stopped Del Toro from starring, but an ensemble cast would always be a good route to take
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 12, 2016, 01:40:39 PMImage matters very little.
You say that on a forum where we argue about which Predator design looks the best.
Image does matter, quite a lot in the Predator films. Sure, Danny Glover was no Arnold in P2, but he looked like he belonged in the setting.
If the guy actually ends up looking like he belongs in a cast of a Predator film, that's absolutely great.
I'm just not gonna hold my breath waiting to see it happen. Hope, in cases like this, tends to lead to disappointment.
Quote from: Vow on Oct 12, 2016, 01:50:12 PM
You say that on a forum where we argue about which Predator design looks the best.
Touche.
QuoteSure, Danny Glover was no Arnold in P2, but he looked like he belonged in the setting.
Sure. He looked like a cop. However, we don't know what setting The Predator will have so who is to say if Holbrook fits into that setting?
This thread. I don't think anybody's denying Boyd's acting talent. It's not about his talent. It's about him being C-list. But oh well. Let's see a helluva supporting cast.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 12, 2016, 02:04:46 PM
This thread. I don't think anybody's denying Boyd's acting talent. It's not about his talent. It's about him being C-list. But oh well. Let's see a helluva supporting cast.
It should be. A big name doesn't make a film. Guardians of the Galaxy, for example. Who the hell knew who Chris Pratt was before that film? The three or four people who saw Parks and Rec? Admittedly I've the show since and it's f**king awesome and one of my favourites but still, he was a nobody. Now he's a household name.
We don't know any of the other cast yet. We don't know the role. We don't know the story. It's too early to cry out in agony about it.
Whoa. Grain of salt but...Apparently, none of those other A-list actors thought Predator was a cool property, and that it's dated and out of fad. And that it was a hard sell for all of them.
Well those A-listers are overhyped anyway but sad to see Del Toro drop out... at least there's some news :P
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 12, 2016, 02:11:55 PM
Whoa. Grain of salt but...Apparently, none of those other A-list actors thought Predator was a cool property, and that it's dated and out of fad. And that it was a hard sell for all of them.
No doubt. Predator is a bit of a sullied property within the main stream. Black must be facing quite an uphill battle against the sigma of the AvPs and the like.
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Oct 12, 2016, 01:15:53 PMEnough said...
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It's all relative.
He looks like an indecisive wimp next to the colombian cop. :D
Nice try. :)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 12, 2016, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 12, 2016, 02:04:46 PM
This thread. I don't think anybody's denying Boyd's acting talent. It's not about his talent. It's about him being C-list. But oh well. Let's see a helluva supporting cast.
It should be. A big name doesn't make a film.
That's true, but going by the rumors, they looked for people that fit my vision and those of many of a lead actor in a Predator movie, and they couldn't get them for whatever reasons. So, to them, it's maybe not exclusively about acting either, and also about appearance as they clearly went for totally different types of actors for the lead.
The guy just feels like an emergency solution to start the movie on schedule, to be honest, and that's why i'm not buying comments like "maybe the script demans this kind of guy" when they clearly went for the opposite, which is Del Toro.
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Oct 12, 2016, 02:28:31 PMHe looks like an indecisive wimp next to the colombian cop. :D
I'd love to know how you get "indecisive" from a single still image of the guy holding a gun.
Personally, I think he looks the part. Point being, you can post shitty photos of him all you like, it has absolutely no bearing on how he might be in the film.
You guys are ridiculous. Boyd is a terrific actor and he did a great job on Narcos. Just because he doesn't have "big muskles" doesn't make him look like a wimp. He played a tough grizzled character on narcos and he did it well.
I can understand people wanted Del Toro and that Boyd isn't a A-list actor but basing your opinion on his physique is ridiculous. He's a good actor and I'm happy to have him in the movie. I mean dear god, people wanted Franco? He would have been terrible despite him being an a-list star.
A cast of A-List actors would have been great for the franchise. Whilst A-Listers don't guarantee box office success it does help with the the marketing and make the movie more 'big and flashy' to the general audience. It wouldn't surprise me to see this movie not end up as the event movie it once hoped to be.
The key to this new movie is the story and characters. We just have to hope that characters are written well and fit well within a hopefully unique story. If they get that right then a half decent actor should be able to deliver with the tools given to them.
Similar words were said of Topher Grace's casting in Predators. The actor himself did OK in the role but at the end of the day his character didn't sit well within the story and felt out of place in a sci-fi movie. The same can be said for Fishburne as Noland - good actor and idea but poorly executed on screen (IMO).
Story/characters/Predator character and story first followed by the rest...
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
That's true, but going by the rumors, they looked for people that fit my vision and those of many of a lead actor in a Predator movie, and they couldn't get them for whatever reasons. So, to them, it's maybe not exclusively about acting either, and also about appearance as they clearly went for totally different types of actors for the lead.
The guy just feels like an emergency solution to start the movie on schedule, to be honest, and that's why i'm not buying comments like "maybe the script demans this kind of guy" when they clearly went for the opposite, which is Del Toro.
Aside from Del Toro being a more well known name, I can't say I see a great deal of difference in their appearances. Neither was overly muscle bound or Arnie-esque. It all just seems to be about pulling power and even then, Del Toro isn't exactly a massive name. I was more excited about him because I knew he was a good actor.
There's no doubt that Black was after the bums on seats power of bigger names but we still don't know what the rest of the cast includes.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 12, 2016, 01:38:29 AM
Wow that's a bummer, I was really looking forward to Del Toro as the lead.
Same here. Del Toro would've made it dope
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 12, 2016, 02:38:33 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
That's true, but going by the rumors, they looked for people that fit my vision and those of many of a lead actor in a Predator movie, and they couldn't get them for whatever reasons. So, to them, it's maybe not exclusively about acting either, and also about appearance as they clearly went for totally different types of actors for the lead.
The guy just feels like an emergency solution to start the movie on schedule, to be honest, and that's why i'm not buying comments like "maybe the script demans this kind of guy" when they clearly went for the opposite, which is Del Toro.
Aside from Del Toro being a more well known name, I can't say I see a great deal of difference in their appearances. Neither was overly muscle bound or Arnie-esque. It all just seems to be about pulling power and even then, Del Toro isn't exactly a massive name. I was more excited about him because I knew he was a good actor.
There's no doubt that Black was after the bums on seats power of bigger names but we still don't know what the rest of the cast includes.
Benicio is huge compared to Boyd.I'd rather wait six more months and get Benicio.
What are you guys talking about? Check this out and tell me he won't fit in The Predator
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 12, 2016, 02:35:42 PM
You guys are ridiculous. Boyd is a terrific actor and he did a great job on Narcos. Just because he doesn't have "big muskles" doesn't make him look like a wimp. He played a tough grizzled character on narcos and he did it well.
I can understand people wanted Del Toro and that Boyd isn't a A-list actor but basing your opinion on his physique is ridiculous. He's a good actor and I'm happy to have him in the movie. I mean dear god, people wanted Franco? He would have been terrible despite him being an a-list star.
It's not about acting ability. All the guys offered the role and the guy currently attached to the role are good actors. It's about notoriety and having a bonafide blockbuster lead to complement the blockbuster director and ambitions.
And Franco is a fine actor. Better than most of the actors from the Predator movies. 127 Hours was amazing and he's shown himself able to hold his own in the lead in tentpole movies based on preexisting IP: Apes, Oz.
QuoteHe's a good actor and I'm happy to have him in the movie. I mean dear god, people wanted Franco? He would have been terrible despite him being an a-list star.
No, and that's the whole point, because physique/charisma also matters and despite Franco being a good actor, no one wanted him because he lacks exactly those points.
This is Predator we are talking about, not shakespeare, and i don't care if the guy can convincingly shit his pants if he doesn't look like he belongs there in the first place.
Right now, i can understand both sides, i give this guy a chance too, but saying "you guys are ridiculous" for not being overly happy of this guy is just as stupid.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 12, 2016, 02:38:33 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
That's true, but going by the rumors, they looked for people that fit my vision and those of many of a lead actor in a Predator movie, and they couldn't get them for whatever reasons. So, to them, it's maybe not exclusively about acting either, and also about appearance as they clearly went for totally different types of actors for the lead.
The guy just feels like an emergency solution to start the movie on schedule, to be honest, and that's why i'm not buying comments like "maybe the script demans this kind of guy" when they clearly went for the opposite, which is Del Toro.
Aside from Del Toro being a more well known name, I can't say I see a great deal of difference in their appearances. Neither was overly muscle bound or Arnie-esque. It all just seems to be about pulling power and even then, Del Toro isn't exactly a massive name. I was more excited about him because I knew he was a good actor.
There's no doubt that Black was after the bums on seats power of bigger names but we still don't know what the rest of the cast includes.
I'm not talking about muscles, but the overall appearance of an actor. Del Toro just looked like someone you could instantly imagine in this kind of dark, horror/action movie, this guy looks more like beverly hills 90210.
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Oct 12, 2016, 02:42:31 PMBenicio is huge compared to Boyd.
Neither are household names.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:05 PMRight now, i can understand both sides, i give this guy a chance too, but saying "you guys are ridiculous" for not being overly happy of this guy is just as stupid.
The "ridiculous" comments were directed at statements like, "He's an indecisive wimp."
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:05 PM
I'm not talking about muscles, but the overall appearance of an actor. Del Toro just looked like someone you could instantly imagine in this kind of dark, horror/action movie, this guy looks more like beverly hills 90210.
Would you be up for Del Toro if all he did was The Hunter? Let's be honest, he was horrible there.
And let's not forget the response Michael Keaton got when he was announced to be Batman.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:42 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:05 PMRight now, i can understand both sides, i give this guy a chance too, but saying "you guys are ridiculous" for not being overly happy of this guy is just as stupid.
The "ridiculous" comments were directed at statements like, "He's an indecisive wimp."
Exactly, also statements like "
this guy looks more like beverly hills 90210."
Those reactions are ridiculous and unfounded.
I would have loved to have Del Toro, but I think Boyd would do great in a predator movie. Also at the end of the day I don't care about how big the movie is or how much money it makes. I just want it to be a great movie, this franchise needs it, in the long run a great movie will be better for this series than any big tent pole blockbuster. Something that can be looked at years later as a classic and one of the best in the series.
I'm planning on watching Narcos tonight to see what he's really like. We're seeing lots of assumptions based on some googled images.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:42 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Oct 12, 2016, 02:42:31 PMBenicio is huge compared to Boyd.
Neither are household names.
Benicio will be in Star Wars, trust me, by the time The Predator comes out he will be huge, that's why they wanted him to begin with.
Quote from: overthere on Oct 12, 2016, 02:49:03 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:05 PM
I'm not talking about muscles, but the overall appearance of an actor. Del Toro just looked like someone you could instantly imagine in this kind of dark, horror/action movie, this guy looks more like beverly hills 90210.
Would you be up for Del Toro if all he did was The Hunter? Let's be honest, he was horrible there.
Haven't seen that movie in a while, that was also 13 years ago... but i've seen Sicario and he was really good in that.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 12, 2016, 02:51:45 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:42 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:05 PMRight now, i can understand both sides, i give this guy a chance too, but saying "you guys are ridiculous" for not being overly happy of this guy is just as stupid.
The "ridiculous" comments were directed at statements like, "He's an indecisive wimp."
Exactly, also statements like "this guy looks more like beverly hills 90210."
Those reactions are ridiculous and unfounded.
No, those are opinions and first reactions, not mocking in any way.
Nothing unfounded about saying what your first and honest impression is, you need to differentiate that.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
Haven't seen that movie in a while, that was also 13 years ago... but i've seen Sicario and he was really good in that.
My point was, if you were judging Del Toro's performance from that movie alone, you'd say he sucks and doesn't belong in The Predator. Same thing can easily be with Boyd Holbrook.
The ultimate answer for all this is Michael Keaton as Batman. Nobody wanted him, nobody liked the idea, but he's now probably the most iconic Batman on film.
Same can also be said of the announcement for Ben Afflect as Batman.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
Benicio will be in Star Wars, trust me, by the time The Predator comes out he will be huge, that's why they wanted him to begin with.
Holbrook could potentially be after Logan too.
QuoteNo, those are opinions and first reactions, not mocking in any way.
Nothing unfounded about saying what your first and honest impression is, you need to differentiate that.
Your opinion and and your honest first impressions are unfounded. they are a knee-jerk reaction and literally make no sense to people who have actually seen Boyd in other projects.
I gather its more about being upset at losing Del Toro than any actual unbiased opinion of Boyd or his work.
Holbrook was the weak element in Narcos. He had a couple of good moments where he was required to act and emote, but ultimately I didn't get a sense of his presence or skills as an actor because his entire character in that show seemed like a placeholder. Maybe he could be better in this.
Fact is, when Benicio was announced all the fans were happy , and now the fans are divided.
Simple maths. :-\
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 12, 2016, 03:11:27 PM
Holbrook was the weak element in Narcos. He had a couple of good moments where he was required to act and emote, but ultimately I didn't get a sense of his presence or skills as an actor because his entire character in that show seemed like a placeholder. Maybe he could be better in this.
Thanks for the info, Val. That's a damn shame.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 12, 2016, 03:13:16 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 12, 2016, 03:11:27 PM
Holbrook was the weak element in Narcos. He had a couple of good moments where he was required to act and emote, but ultimately I didn't get a sense of his presence or skills as an actor because his entire character in that show seemed like a placeholder. Maybe he could be better in this.
Thanks for the info, Val. That's a damn shame.
I'de still check the show out, I thought he did really well.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 12, 2016, 03:13:16 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 12, 2016, 03:11:27 PM
Holbrook was the weak element in Narcos. He had a couple of good moments where he was required to act and emote, but ultimately I didn't get a sense of his presence or skills as an actor because his entire character in that show seemed like a placeholder. Maybe he could be better in this.
Thanks for the info, Val. That's a damn shame.
If you watch Narcos the standout star is Wagner Moura, who is a tour de force. I'd watch that guy in anything now. To clarify: Holbrook wasn't a bad actor, he was just given next to nothing to do.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 12, 2016, 03:15:24 PM
I'de still check the show out, I thought he did really well.
Still planning on giving it a go! :) I like to make my own mind up anyway.
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 12, 2016, 03:16:03 PM
To clarify: Holbrook wasn't a bad actor, he was just given next to nothing to do.
So not a dig on his capabilities then. Fair enough.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:42 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Oct 12, 2016, 02:42:31 PMBenicio is huge compared to Boyd.
Neither are household names.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 12, 2016, 02:47:05 PMRight now, i can understand both sides, i give this guy a chance too, but saying "you guys are ridiculous" for not being overly happy of this guy is just as stupid.
The "ridiculous" comments were directed at statements like, "He's an indecisive wimp."
I've said
he looks like, not 'he is', please don't lie.
Yesterday I was worried if the movie is happening at all. Technicalities as who's the main actor don't bother me. The actual Predator has to look good, the main actors are "assets..expendable assets"
Quote from: overthere on Oct 12, 2016, 03:23:19 PM
Yesterday I was worried if the movie is happening at all. Technicalities as who's the main actor don't bother me. The actual Predator has to look good, the main actors are "assets..expendable assets"
I see what you did there
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Wasn't 50 Cent rumored to be part of this movie? Anyway maybe they should approach Luke Evans, Sam Jackson, Liam Nesson, Morgan Freeman; they show up in all kind of small to big budget movies. Batista would also be nice to fill the role of big muscleman. Some old-timers like Steven Seagal, Jean-claude van damme, Mel Gibson, Dolph Lundgren, Mickey Rourke would be awesome. If all else fails, they can always cast Jai Courtney lol.
I can't say that I was particularly excited about The Predator but when Del Toro came on board I was suddenly very interested. This news is very disappointing. Del Toro I thought had the intensity and charisma to carry/centre the movie. Boyd Holbrook......naaaaaaaaaah.
Anyway he was good in the Skeleton Twins as an Australian scuba instructor. Here he is:
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The little picture means nothing. Don't judge a book by it's cover. Just give him a new haircut, get rid of the mustache, give him an expensive suit, buff him up just a little, and he could pull off a Peter Keyes type character......maybe.
Quote from: Batalien on Oct 12, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
Some old-timers like Steven Seagal, Jean-claude van damme, Mel Gibson, Dolph Lundgren, Mickey Rourke would be awesome.
No offense but I feel like the less Expendables cast they include the better. They already will likely include Arnie too.
As little known as Boyd is, I'd much prefer a star on the rise type than a gimmicky "this guy was huge in the 90's." It just smells of straight to redbox imho.
If they surround Boyd with bigger names, I hope it's guys like Idris Elba, James Badge Dale, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Oscar Isaac, Dave Bautista, Mads Mikkelson, etc. Guys that, like Benicio, can bring charismatic elements to their characters. And hopefully after Logan comes out, we'll be dying to see Boyd lead a movie. Fingers crossed.
Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Oct 12, 2016, 10:09:54 PM
Quote from: Batalien on Oct 12, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
Some old-timers like Steven Seagal, Jean-claude van damme, Mel Gibson, Dolph Lundgren, Mickey Rourke would be awesome.
No offense but I feel like the less Expendables cast they include the better. They already will likely include Arnie too.
As little known as Boyd is, I'd much prefer a star on the rise type than a gimmicky "this guy was huge in the 90's." It just smells of straight to redbox imho.
If they surround Boyd with bigger names, I hope it's guys like Idris Elba, James Badge Dale, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Oscar Isaac, Dave Bautista, Mads Mikkelson, etc. Guys that, like Benicio, can bring charismatic elements to their characters. And hopefully after Logan comes out, we'll be dying to see Boyd lead a movie. Fingers crossed.
You've got the right idea. None of those names save Gibson would enhance the movie.
Elba, Ejiofor, Isaac and Mikkelson would be amazing.
If they cant fit Del Toro's schedule than they need Brad Pitt who kinda like the same character and same age .Boyd is just a guy if we compare him to them.
How can he be the same character as Del Toro who's almost 50?
???
But if this character is not the Lead i dont mind i still want Gosling to be the lead.Black could talk him into the project.
Quote from: Dan on Oct 13, 2016, 01:30:21 AMHow can he be the same character as Del Toro who's almost 50?
Who says age is an important aspect of the character?
Quote from: Dan on Oct 13, 2016, 01:30:21 AM
If they cant fit Del Toro's schedule than they need Brad Pitt who kinda like the same character and same age .Boyd is just a guy if we compare him to them.
How can he be the same character as Del Toro who's almost 50?
???
But if this character is not the Lead i dont mind i still want Gosling to be the lead.Black could talk him into the project.
Gosling is filming Blade Runner.
My main concern is that Del Toro has a grizelled intensity that Holbrock does not. Josh Brolin V Predator might work!!!
Very curious about the supporting cast now.
I just hope they got Arnold, but no lame 5 minute cameo shit, let him swing some heavy guns.
I wouldn't want Arnold handling guns. There's no point in him fighting a Predator.
There is no point in him not fighting a Predator. You don't get Schwarzenegger and not let him do what he does best, Shane knows this, i'm sure he will be involved in some action if he ends up doing it.
Arnold was great in Terminator Gen. and looked awesome in the action scenes, bring him on.
But what's the scenario in which they need a 70 year old with a gun? I'd prefer if they just had him for strategy ideas, "tell us everything you know" type of thing.
I told you its gonna be a hard movie to make,
not only story wise.
Quote from: overthere on Oct 13, 2016, 11:10:12 AM
But what's the scenario in which they need a 70 year old with a gun?
Because he can still do it, that's all there is to it. What's the point of carrying a heavy minigun through the whole damn jungle only for it to fire 10 seconds and be out of ammunition? Because Hollywood.
QuoteI'd prefer if they just had him for strategy ideas, "tell us everything you know" type of thing.
They don't need Schwarzenegger for that at all, they could basically just take anyone and say he's a survivor, just like Fishburne in Predators.
If you hire the biggest action star of the 80's/90's to only let him talk you're totally missing the point in my book, and Schwarzenegger still has it. Nah, i want to see him involved in some action, just like Harrison Ford in Episode 7, f**k talking.
Quote from: overthere on Oct 13, 2016, 11:10:12 AM
But what's the scenario in which they need a 70 year old with a gun? I'd prefer if they just had him for strategy ideas, "tell us everything you know" type of thing.
Man, I'd watch Eastwood with a gun even today and totally revel in it. Same for Schwarz. I think we're beyond 'they're too old' nowadays. Of course, it'd make sense for the character to not want to fight, given his age, but if he's in a situation where he
has to... no foul for me.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Arnold in his element again. But if they're going for a bit more realistic approach, he wouldn't fit. I do have a scene in my head where a Predator recognized Dutch because they learn about him in Pred School, and lets him live.
Quote from: overthere on Oct 13, 2016, 01:08:10 PM
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Arnold in his element again. But if they're going for a bit more realistic approach, he wouldn't fit. I do have a scene in my head where a Predator recognized Dutch because they learn about him in Pred School, and lets him live.
Aw man, I don't want that. Predator was colourful and fun, as well as thrilling and suspensful. That's what they need to recapture.
As long as it works within the story, I'd love Arnie! I'm sure it'd go a long way to helping get some real attention too. I imagine Black worked hard to get Arnie involved. Be curious to know if it worked out.
He looks like freaking draco malfoy IM OUT !
I don't even know who this Boyd guy is. Still disappointed Benicio dropped out. :/
Quote from: overthere on Oct 13, 2016, 11:10:12 AM
But what's the scenario in which they need a 70 year old with a gun? I'd prefer if they just had him for strategy ideas, "tell us everything you know" type of thing.
Lol what? What does age have to do with anything? It's Arnold. It's Dutch. It's cool. 70 year olds can handle guns just fine. My uncle is 70 and goes to the gun range every weekend.
The trouble is, guns never beat a Predator before. And the idea of a senior putting up any kind of contest hand-to-hand with one is dumb, Arnie or not.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 13, 2016, 08:12:15 PM
And the idea of a senior putting up any kind of contest hand-to-hand with one is dumb, Arnie or not.
Especially considering how f**king strong Predators are too, it becomes even dumber.
I've been thinking about this casting from a different viewpoint. Unless they get an A-lister as a side character in the film, I really hope that they kill off every prominent character in the film that comes in contact with the Predator (aside from Arnie, if he's in it).
It's about time we get a Predator film where the Predator wins. We've already seen Arnie, Glover, and Brody win battles with the Predator, so If every main hero can just kill off the Predator, what's the point. I know the casual moviegoers doesn't prefer endings where the main villain wins, but I'd like to see them switch it up for this film.
This won't be merely a bodycount movie, per Dekker.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 13, 2016, 08:12:15 PM
The trouble is, guns never beat a Predator before. And the idea of a senior putting up any kind of contest hand-to-hand with one is dumb, Arnie or not.
Not if we give him a power suit. Eh?
I sense this movie will end with "go back to your planet, leave us alone" and the Predator nods respectfully and leaves
greygoose: They delayed The Predator's shooting because of Del Toro's schedule to february so Gosling will be available this time around.
Blade Runner 2049 wraps next month.
I also hope Arnold is coming back because he's still fit enough to play Duch after 30 year, and not just for a minor role.I hope he has a 15-20 min screen time atleast.
I always wanted Harrigan and Garber to came back as advisers or someting but no word about them.
"go back to your planet, leave us alone"definitlely sounds like an Arnie one liner. :)
Why is 50 Cent added on the IMDB page??
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Oct 14, 2016, 03:05:05 AM
Why is 50 Cent added on the IMDB page??
Someone probably did it based on 50 Cent's comments about being in The Predator.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 14, 2016, 08:06:03 AM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Oct 14, 2016, 03:05:05 AM
Why is 50 Cent added on the IMDB page??
Someone probably did it based on 50 Cent's comments about being in The Predator.
But why now? His comment about his involvement goes way back to April. I think they did indeed cast him and it's Dekker updating the page, he also announced Martin Whist the day he was added to IMDB, i also think he's the one giving the casting updates to the news sites. He did the same when they did Edge for Amazon by the way.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Oct 14, 2016, 03:05:05 AMWhy is 50 Cent added on the IMDB page??
IMDb's often bogus, for a long time it was saying Danny Webb was gonna return as Morse in
Alien: Covenant. I rarely put too much faith in it until a film's actually out.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 14, 2016, 08:26:00 AM
But why now?
IMDB is just full of imbecile trolls. Probably just some idiot trying to stir up more trouble in light of this Holbrook news. I wouldn't put any stock in it.
Powersuit like Rykov in AVP 2 game wore for final boss fight in Predator campaign?
Could be, but i wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in the movie, i mean it's confirmed Shane met with him anyway so it's not too far fetched.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 14, 2016, 09:04:57 AM
Could be, but i wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in the movie, i mean it's confirmed Shane met with him anyway so it's not too far fetched.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it'll happen as well. Jackson was pretty certain about it. Just doubtful it was a proper update.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 14, 2016, 08:06:03 AM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Oct 14, 2016, 03:05:05 AM
Why is 50 Cent added on the IMDB page??
Someone probably did it based on 50 Cent's comments about being in The Predator.
The idea of 50 Cent starring in a movie along side bigger actors was OK. Now the idea of him along side a cast of C-list actors is potentially worrying.
The movie itself might still be good but with FOX losing out on so many big actors the whole 'event' movie thing is losing it's momentum.
Quote from: greygoose on Oct 14, 2016, 09:10:37 AM
The idea of 50 Cent starring in a movie along side bigger actors was OK. Now the idea of him along side a cast of C-list actors is potentially worrying.
The movie itself might still be good but with FOX losing out on so many big actors the whole 'event' movie thing is losing it's momentum.
We have literally 2 names. 2 names. That doesn't make a cast full of c-list actors.
More to the point, neither has actually been confirmed. They're just "in talks".
Look how many people have been "in talks" thus far.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 14, 2016, 09:14:00 AM
Quote from: greygoose on Oct 14, 2016, 09:10:37 AM
The idea of 50 Cent starring in a movie along side bigger actors was OK. Now the idea of him along side a cast of C-list actors is potentially worrying.
The movie itself might still be good but with FOX losing out on so many big actors the whole 'event' movie thing is losing it's momentum.
We have literally 2 names. 2 names. That doesn't make a cast full of c-list actors.
Whilst not quite A-list, I'd be happy if Karl Urban signed on!
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 14, 2016, 09:14:53 AM
More to the point, neither has actually been confirmed. They're just "in talks".
Look how many people have been "in talks" thus far.
I see your point, but none of them were officially posted by the writer himself, could have been bogus all along. It must be pretty close to a deal if Dekker is posting it. That they scheduled it to begin shooting this coming Monday doesn't make it any better too, they need actors, and they need them fast.
Quote from: greygoose on Oct 14, 2016, 09:22:44 AM
Whilst not quite A-list, I'd be happy if Karl Urban signed on!
Agreed. I would love to see Urban in The Predator! I could do with watching Dredd again. I think he has a good presence about him that would suit a Predator film.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 14, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
Quote from: greygoose on Oct 14, 2016, 09:22:44 AM
Whilst not quite A-list, I'd be happy if Karl Urban signed on!
Agreed. I would love to see Urban in The Predator! I could do with watching Dredd again. I think he has a good presence about him that would suit a Predator film.
Urban fits.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 14, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
Quote from: greygoose on Oct 14, 2016, 09:22:44 AM
Whilst not quite A-list, I'd be happy if Karl Urban signed on!
Agreed. I would love to see Urban in The Predator! I could do with watching Dredd again. I think he has a good presence about him that would suit a Predator film.
Dredd is a great film! Easily in my top 10 list now. Urban did a great job in the role. I wonder if there's a chance of Urban?...
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 14, 2016, 09:14:00 AM
Quote from: greygoose on Oct 14, 2016, 09:10:37 AM
The idea of 50 Cent starring in a movie along side bigger actors was OK. Now the idea of him along side a cast of C-list actors is potentially worrying.
The movie itself might still be good but with FOX losing out on so many big actors the whole 'event' movie thing is losing it's momentum.
50 Cent is only being considered for a role per his Facebook page
We have literally 2 names. 2 names. That doesn't make a cast full of c-list actors.
Quote from: greygoose on Oct 14, 2016, 09:38:06 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 14, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
Quote from: greygoose on Oct 14, 2016, 09:22:44 AM
Whilst not quite A-list, I'd be happy if Karl Urban signed on!
Agreed. I would love to see Urban in The Predator! I could do with watching Dredd again. I think he has a good presence about him that would suit a Predator film.
Dredd is a great film! Easily in my top 10 list now. Urban did a great job in the role. I wonder if there's a chance of Urban?...
It'd be better than this Boyd guy, I think.
Well didn't Arnold say he was going to be doing Predator by possibly starring in it again??
That's the third actor. Hope it doesn't become a buddy buddy comedy film with all three starring.
50 cent, ARNOLD, Boyd.
I might as well forecast my own dinner tonight. It's going to be mashed potatoes.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 16, 2016, 07:39:51 PM
Well didn't Arnold say he was going to be doing Predator by possibly starring in it again??
That's the third actor. Hope it doesn't become a buddy buddy comedy film with all three starring.
50 cent, ARNOLD, Boyd.
I might as well forecast my own dinner tonight. It's going to be mashed potatoes.
Fred told me on Facebook that Curtis is being considered, so it's not a lock, the only thing I heard from Arnold coming back was from a video of him answering questions while working out and said he would only be interested if the scrip was good. He said since Shane was involved and he felt it should be good then
Wish we had a well known actor for the lead, because the previous 3 Predator movies had well known leads. Still cool with Holbrook tho, just wanted them to continue this little "tradition" by casting popular leads.
Well despite Glover being in Lethal Weapon 1 and 2, The Color Purple and Witness, and despite Brody being an Oscar-winner, they were both B-list at the times of their Predator films. Known and good actors, but no Arnold. Or Affleck. Or Cooper. Or Bale. Or...or...wahhhhh. :'(
Why Shane!!!
Quote from: Super Predator on Oct 17, 2016, 04:03:34 AM
Wish we had a well known actor for the lead, because the previous 3 Predator movies had well known leads. Still cool with Holbrook tho, just wanted them to continue this little "tradition" by casting popular leads.
It might not be too late, provided they hire somebody popular to co-star.
Honestly..... If the guy can act, who cares if he's A-list or not?
Why is everyone so obsessed with having a big name attached to this?
^ Yeah, what he said.
Because it's expected. It's Shane Black and an event movie.
It's also fun. There's fun in seeing an A-lister go against this creature.
It's also validating. It reaffirms that your favorite franchise is good enough to attract quality talent.
And again, really, sincerely, it's just expected. Consider my mind blown that Shane Black couldn't snag at least one of those A-list names. So, it's very unaffirming at the moment.
Consider me terrified. Shane Black will direct the movie with ZERO PASSION.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 17, 2016, 03:01:15 PMBecause it's expected.
I expected
Prometheus to be good.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 17, 2016, 03:01:15 PMIt's also fun.
I can think of tons of movies without A-listers that are huge fun, and by the same token tons that have an A-list cast and are no fun at all.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 17, 2016, 03:01:15 PMIt's also validating.
A good end product would be all the validation we need. It's a freaking monster movie, the fourth entry in an action/horror series that, if we're honest, hasn't burned especially bright since the first in 1987. You're hardly going to have Robert De Niro and Al Pacino queuing up to be in it. But that doesn't mean a new film's automatically going to be cack.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 17, 2016, 03:01:15 PMShane Black will direct the movie with ZERO PASSION.
I've never seen him do anything with zero passion.
Shane Black is cuing up for it. Which should have or should create a domino effect.
It's ok. We disagree!
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Oct 12, 2016, 01:15:53 PM
Enough said...
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3372/3635988966_1639c9f0b9_o.jpg
I wonder what Blain would say about this guy?
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 17, 2016, 03:41:57 PM
It's a freaking monster movie, the fourth entry in an action/horror series that, if we're honest, hasn't burned especially bright since the first in 1987. You're hardly going to have Robert De Niro and Al Pacino queuing up to be in it.
Do you think Daniel Day-Lewis might be game?
DDL was wanted for Terminator: Salvation lol.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 17, 2016, 04:10:16 PM
Do you think Daniel Day-Lewis might be game?
First Oscar bait Predator movie. XD
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 17, 2016, 04:10:16 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Oct 12, 2016, 01:15:53 PM
Enough said...
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3372/3635988966_1639c9f0b9_o.jpg
I wonder what Blain would say about this guy?
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 17, 2016, 03:41:57 PM
It's a freaking monster movie, the fourth entry in an action/horror series that, if we're honest, hasn't burned especially bright since the first in 1987. You're hardly going to have Robert De Niro and Al Pacino queuing up to be in it.
Do you think Daniel Day-Lewis might be game?
I swear to god I bumped into him in the woods recently while hiking. He lives in Ireland. So the short answer is YES!
Daniel Day Lewis+Woods+Mountain=Predator.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 17, 2016, 04:10:16 PMDo you think Daniel Day-Lewis might be game?
Don't be stupid.
He's busy playing Turk in
Aliens 2.5, remember?
In all seriousness though, given Day-Lewis'
extreme penchant for method acting, I'm not sure it would be a good idea :laugh:
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 17, 2016, 06:53:23 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 17, 2016, 04:10:16 PMDo you think Daniel Day-Lewis might be game?
Don't be stupid.
He's busy playing Turk in Aliens 2.5, remember?
In all seriousness though, given Day-Lewis' extreme penchant for method acting, I'm not sure it would be a good idea :laugh:
I'm now wondering how'd he approach method acting if he was somehow casted as the Predator. :laugh:
I feel this movie will end up with a Robocop 2014 type cast. I also feel like Sam Jackson will be cast lol.
That film had an awesome cast.
Shame literally everyone of value was wasted and the movie was forgettable crap.
Perfect example of why big names don't make a movie.
Expected?? No it isn't. Wished for by a minority? Yes.
Every so-called A-lister was a non-lister at some point.
Expected? Yes it is. On the basis of everything the filmmakers have said thus far, yes it is.
Wished for by a minority? Seemingly so, at least among the fanbase. Which is SO bizarre! You don't want your little franchise to do well? To be validated by having esteemed, big names attached to it? I want that. That'd be so surreal because the franchise has been B-movie-fied to death. Oh, and Shane wishes for it, too.
Yeah and when they were a non-lister, they'd be in any movie. If Ben Affleck was a nobody, of course he'd fervently take part in this movie. It's like what Oprah said. "Lots of people want to ride with you in the limo, but what you want is someone who will take the bus with you."
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 18, 2016, 08:49:20 PMWhich is SO bizarre! You don't want your little franchise to do well? To be validated by having esteemed, big names attached to it?
As plenty of us have tried to tell you far too many times now, a big-name star does not in any way equal or guarantee a good final product.
An A-lister isn't validation of anything. There are literally hundreds of movies with big-name stars that ended up being total crap.
Lol. Stop misinterpreting! I'm not saying an A-lister guarantees a quality movie. I'm just saying I want an A-lister, period. Because not since Arnie in the original have we had someone at the height of the career take part in this franchise. We've had known people take part when they were down for the count, if anything. Fishburne, Goggins and Grace all have had nice resurgences after Predators, for three examples. Taking part in major motion pictures. Man of Steel, Contagion, Interstellar, Hateful Eight, etc. Before that they had some momentum loss, or weren't known too well(Goggins).
Shane is so far the only person of quality who's entered the franchise at a career apex. He could've just gone straight to Doc Savage with The Rock instead of Predator 6.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 18, 2016, 09:51:56 PM
Lol. Stop misinterpreting! I'm not saying an A-lister guarantees a quality movie. I'm just saying I want an A-lister, period. Because not since Arnie in the original have we had someone at the height of the career take part in this franchise. We've had known people take part when they were down for the count, if anything. Fishburne, Goggins and Grace all have had nice resurgences after Predators, for three examples. Taking part in major motion pictures. Man of Steel, Contagion, Interstellar, Hateful Eight, etc. Before that they had some momentum loss, or weren't known too well(Goggins).
Shane is so far the only person of quality who's entered the franchise at a career apex. He could've just gone straight to Doc Savage with The Rock instead of Predator 6.
Good points. We should want quality from this film, not merely "just another Predator film". Settling gets us shit like the AVP films, and to a lesser extent, Predators.
Bingo, bingo, bingo.
It's a hell of a big event, big budget movie so far :-\ Let's just hope that they will get the Predator right if it's not too much asking.
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Oct 19, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
It's a hell of a big event, big budget movie so far :-\ Let's just hope that they will get the Predator right if it's not too much asking.
So long as the Predator isn't Ben Kingsley in disguise I'll be fine.
And again with the asuming that the bigger names will bring quality. Plenty of big names (actors, directors, producers) have made shit films. Asuming this will be good simply because of big names is just that; and asumption.
Imma wait and see when the credits role to see if the movie was good, no matter who was in it.
"Lol. Stop misinterpreting! I'm not saying an A-lister guarantees a quality movie."
The need for an A-lister was because the movie was announced as an event movie. It could possibly be a better movie with lesser actors excelling in their roles but there's no way it will be an event movie without one or two A-listers. It wouldn't surprise me to see Fox react by missing out on their top actors targets by downgrading the whole production and cutting the budget.
Poor Predator. At least Alien is getting treated well. At least Alien has a director attached who's at the top of his game, riding high off THE MARTIAN. The cast could be better but, I don't doubt he got exactly what he wanted and could've gotten anybody he wanted; while I do love talking about Shane Black and how far removed in quality he is from the likes of Anderson and Antal, Ridley Scott in the same way is lightyears away from Shane Black.
Alien: Covenant. From the director of Alien and The Martian. Box-office gold.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 19, 2016, 07:18:01 PM
"Lol. Stop misinterpreting! I'm not saying an A-lister guarantees a quality movie."
Then explain. Because the way you post, it comes across a lot as you saying A-listers would benefit this movie.
already explained
A stupid, overly hopeful part of me is still expecting Shane to make a major ensemble cast announcement out of nowhere just to blow everyone's mind with the well kept secret.
However, that's an extremely optimistic longshot. They HAVE to get some people in this movie though, right?? So who is going to be in it?? Is there a chance that Shane has made next to zero progress on the cast?
In a world where Idris Elba makes movies like Ghost Rider 2, The Gunman, No Good Deed, The Losers, and Takers at the height of his career, I refuse to believe it's difficult to get some quality big names attached to this.
Granted, I'd rather see a good movie full of lesser-known talent than a bad movie full of A-listers, but it'd be nice to get excited about the cast right about now since they should be shooting already.
I'm 100% confident Shane can get at least a couple of amazing players.
If Predators can get Brody, Fishburne and Grace...
(Keep this in mind too: BRADLEY COOPER JUST STARRED IN WAR DOGS. LOL WHAT?)
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 19, 2016, 10:11:30 PM
I'm 100% confident Shane can get at least a couple of amazing players.
I hope so...
Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Oct 19, 2016, 09:56:57 PMIn a world where Idris Elba makes movies like Ghost Rider 2, The Gunman, No Good Deed, The Losers, and Takers at the height of his career, I refuse to believe it's difficult to get some quality big names attached to this.
Not sure anyone's mentioned Elba yet, but now that you have, I'd love to see him in this.
He's such a good actor, it winds me right up that he mostly seems to appear in bit-parts in mediocre films (
Prometheus included, can't believe Scott cut his single best scene).
Maybe they should get Sylvester Stallone just so we joke about Rambo/Rocky fighting Predator on big screen. After all Predator idea came after a joke about how Rocky should fight an Alien in his next movie.
Also noticed all the Batman actors that have been mentioned except Michael Keaton, so maybe they should try approaching him. Val Kilmer was not good and George Clooney was Meh!
Holbrook looks pretty beefed up in that Logan trailer
Quote from: JennySparks on Oct 20, 2016, 02:35:26 PM
Maybe they should get Sylvester Stallone just so we joke about Rambo/Rocky fighting Predator on big screen. After all Predator idea came after a joke about how Rocky should fight an Alien in his next movie.
Eh, I dunno. Somehow I don't think that'd work.
Quote from: Xan21 on Oct 20, 2016, 03:31:40 PM
Holbrook looks pretty beefed up in that Logan trailer
I was going to mention this. Nothing ridiculous like Arnie but he looks believably jacked up, I reckon.
I hope this guy is unpolished gem, I really do.
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After watching the Logan trailer, I can say that Holbrook is ready to face off against the Predator.
The picture's give me some hope.
Just as long as he doesn't have the neck tattoo...
Holbrook is solid in "Narcos"
Judging from the fact Benicio was in talks and now they're looking to have Boyd take over, it seems pretty likely that they're going for a Peter Keyes type. Not an obvious physical threat when it comes to muscle but has to turn in a memorable performance. I'm sure all if not most of you have already had that thought...but looking at these pictures from the Logan trailer, I can see it working.
I still hope a huge cast is announced to add some clout and get more audience attention.
Del Toro. Holbrook. Keyes. Huh?
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 21, 2016, 04:25:12 PM
Del Toro. Holbrook. Keyes. Huh?
I was getting at the fact you wouldn't look at any of them and think "That guy is an action hero."
They fit the "government agent who gets their hands dirty" look, but they aren't Vin Deisel, Hugh Jackman, Henry Cavill, Idris Elba, etc.
When does Blade Runner finish filming? If Black could land Gosling for a role that would be cool. Seems like Gosling would fit with the theme of the movie.
They don't look like government agent types at all. I don't even know what that look is. Boyd and Benicio have played all types of roles. I think the cool thing about being an actor is like...the fact that you can like play varied kinds of roles.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 21, 2016, 06:18:47 PM
They don't look like government agent types at all. I don't even know what that look is.
The point being this. The majority of people don't know what these type of guys look like yet still claim an actor doesn't fit the role.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 21, 2016, 06:18:47 PM
They don't look like government agent types at all. I don't even know what that look is. Boyd and Benicio have played all types of roles. I think the cool thing about being an actor is like...the fact that you can like play varied kinds of roles.
With respect, I didn't say "they only look like government agent types." I said they fit the look of a government agent type (evidence being Sicario [throughout the movie BDT is an operative working with Bolin's CIA character, only to be revealed later] and Narcos [Boyd=DEA agent] along with P2).
If you don't think they fit that mold that's fine but how could you think that if you claim there is no look for it?
I don't think Boyd or Benicio have played a role that called for them to have a significant amount of muscle mass. Point being if you're looking for an "Arnold" or "Dwayne Johnson" type for your action film, their names don't immediately come to mind.
I'd also like to point out that when I implied the type of role I see Boyd playing, I meant
in this film. I'm well aware that actors can play varied kinds of roles throughout their careers. However, assuming this plot isn't a simple hunt, I still stand by what I said about the main character being in a similar occupational position as Peter Keyes. They clearly weren't casting for a character who is an active Navy SEAL otherwise they'd never go for Del Toro in the first place.
Lol. Gaining muscle is easy. The studio just throws a personal trainer at the actor. Muscles schmuscles.
Who knows if this role will even call for muscles. What if he's an everyman like Roy from Close Encounters(a movie that's an influence on The Predator, per Dekker).
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 21, 2016, 09:53:52 PM
Lol. Gaining muscle is easy. The studio just throws a personal trainer at the actor. Muscles schmuscles.
Who knows if this role will even call for muscles. What if he's an everyman like Roy from Close Encounters(a movie that's an influence on The Predator, per Dekker).
I think we all know it didn't call for muscles, that was the point I made (You wouldnt look at any of them and think "That guy is an action hero").
Also, I disagree about it being easy to gain muscle. Sure, many actors can put muscle on, but it's not easy and not all actors are capable of doing it, especially with such little time. Del Toro hasn't done it before as far as I can tell and there was 0 chance he was going to do it for this film.
Perhaps you're right and this character is an "everyman" who winds up in the plot. I think my guess is much more likely, though, considering the nature of the film we are talking about (broader scale than a simple hunt) and the fact that the character will anchor an ensemble cast of dangerous people.
And snipped. Getting bored of some of the pointless posts that are just laced with attitude. I shouldn't have to say this again. I've already said it before.
Just thinking, Wesley Snipes is able to do movies again...
I started watching Narcos at the weekend. I'm 3 episodes in and enjoying it. But it's like Val said earlier, Holbrook isn't really the star of the show and isn't getting a lot of the screentime so far. I'm enjoying him though.
Quote from: ace3g on Oct 22, 2016, 03:25:48 PM
Just thinking, Wesley Snipes is able to do movies again...
Some people really need to let go of the 90's
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Quote from: ace3g on Oct 22, 2016, 03:25:48 PM
Just thinking, Wesley Snipes is able to do movies again...
Some people really need to let go of the 90's
Why ?
Because has-beens shouldn't be in this movie lol.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Nov 03, 2016, 03:03:37 PM
Because has-beens shouldn't be in this movie lol.
Of couse Signorney Weaver and Michael Bein aren't has beens of couse not.
Biehn yes, Siggy not really. She may not be as massive as she was in the late 80s/90s, but she's been in quite a few films lately.
Quote from: g2vd on Nov 03, 2016, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Nov 03, 2016, 03:03:37 PM
Because has-beens shouldn't be in this movie lol.
Of couse Signorney Weaver and Michael Bein aren't has beens of couse not.
Huh?!?! What're we referencing Alien 5 over?! Weaver isn't a has-been, Biehn is, and those two actors would be reprising their previous roles anyway.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Nov 03, 2016, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: g2vd on Nov 03, 2016, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Nov 03, 2016, 03:03:37 PM
Because has-beens shouldn't be in this movie lol.
Of couse Signorney Weaver and Michael Bein aren't has beens of couse not.
Huh?!?! What're we referencing Alien 5 over?! Weaver isn't a has-been, Biehn is, and those two actors would be reprising their previous roles anyway.
But he's a "Has Been" so by that logic...bye bye Drick.
K!
Snippet of Holbrook speaking and beating up Hugh Jackman in the new Logan trailer:
https://youtu.be/68jS05KHx5c (https://youtu.be/68jS05KHx5c)
I think he's going to be perfectly fine.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 19, 2017, 03:54:14 PM
I think he's going to be perfectly fine.
I totally agree and could care less anymore if they get A-Listers to do this movie, I'm currently at Episode 6 Season 2 of Narcos and I think Boyd is a great actor
"She's 11, I'm f*cking 90!" That made me lol.
I'm really looking forward to that film.
He looks great, and he's going to be great. The concern was never whether or not he was going to be good, though.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 19, 2017, 06:32:36 PM
"She's 11, I'm f*cking 90!" That made me lol.
I'm really looking forward to that film.
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Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 19, 2017, 09:26:29 PM
He looks great, and he's going to be great. The concern was never whether or not he was going to be good, though.
The concern is that they went after many A list actors and none would commit.
I'm looking forward to seeing what Holbrook brings to the role.
Quote from: greygoose on Jan 19, 2017, 09:40:34 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jan 19, 2017, 09:26:29 PM
He looks great, and he's going to be great. The concern was never whether or not he was going to be good, though.
The concern is that they went after many A list actors and none would commit.
I'm looking forward to seeing what Holbrook brings to the role.
Exactly. As cool as we think the Predator is, the Predator wasn't seen as a cool franchise to them, kinda shopworn. That's why it was a tough sell.
A-listers are high and mighty anyways... egos glued to parfumes and crap...I just want a good movie
With the way he said "No" so casually (like he was talking to a dog), I like to imagine him thinking "Come on, I got to fight The Predator soon, I don't have time for this shit." during that scene.