https://twitter.com/micky_jones/status/791885132692987905
Have no idea if this is genuine!
I can see urns in the background behind the hugger and eggs! I think these are real!
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That looks pretty genuine to me
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 28, 2016, 07:08:32 AM
That looks pretty genuine to me
Yeah they definitely are. The picture with the urns behind the hugger is where Ridley did a short promo interview for season 2 of Man in the High Castle.
News drought is over! Happy Friday everyone
Omg hryucdd et i b frhbfri Jb ddze tv li GC v
Incredible
That facehugger design is amazing
Could these be our spore borne Aliens?
The sharp end of the head on that small sculpture as well as the picture in the background matches the description I heard elsewhere on the forum of these white Aliens having sharp ends on their heads which they use to dig their way out of people when hatching. Like the Deacon did with the Engineer.
Plus they look all mutated and messed up, I think this is also genuine. So exciting! Plus they have little tails just like the descriptions said they would (the Beluga Alien in the older Prometheus script didn't have a tail.)
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 28, 2016, 07:20:43 AM
That facehugger design is amazing
The legs look amazing, so spindly and spidery. It's gonna look ultra creepy. Can't wait to see what Odd have done with Big Chap!
Quote from: Stolen on Oct 28, 2016, 07:13:07 AM
Omg hryucdd et i b frhbfri Jb ddze tv li GC v
Incredible
Yep. Sums up my feelings as well. These do kinda remind me of the failed Ripley/Alien clones from 'ALIEN: Resurrection'. Scott sure is out to make his audience feel uncomfortable with this stuff.
-Windebieste.
The big one at the right is big chap?
Well, there's definitely more sexual tones going on in these designs. The eggs have friggan vaginas all over them. :-[ :P
Quote from: PsyKore on Oct 28, 2016, 07:42:13 AM
Well, there's definitely more sexual tones going on in these designs. The eggs have friggan vaginas all over them. :-[ :P
yep! Those eggs look almost like the more graphic versions they were originally going to have appear in '79. That facehugger in particular is pretty unnerving
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Oct 28, 2016, 07:11:50 AM
News drought is over! Happy Friday everyone
I gave you news earlier this week! :o
Quote from: PsyKore on Oct 28, 2016, 07:42:13 AM
Well, there's definitely more sexual tones going on in these designs. The eggs have friggan vaginas all over them. :-[ :P
Notice the different kinds of eggs too? There's varying size ones in the picture of the new facehugger (look at all those freaking legs!).
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Oct 28, 2016, 07:21:28 AM
I think this is also genuine. So exciting! Plus they have little tails just like the descriptions said they would (the Beluga Alien in the older Prometheus script didn't have a tail.)
This is genuine, no doubt about it. The location is the same place that Ridley did the video introduced Man in the High Castle and it matches up with what I've been told about David's home in the Engineer temple.
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 28, 2016, 07:32:06 AM
These do kinda remind me of the failed Ripley/Alien clones from 'ALIEN: Resurrection'.
My first thought too! I'm loving the imagery here. They're not the Aliens but they're definitely something Alien-like and with all those accelerant urns in the background, there's some definite connection between the black goo and the creation of some Alien-like creatures.
Yes I know, the Giger purist talking here, but still I don´t really get the loop, how this organic can become the original Bio-mechanical?
And did that big thing do too much chewing tobacco?
...and so it begins... ;D
Thankfully, this is more shaping up to be what i wished was Prometheus, from the Engineers to the tribolite, the creatures in that were uninspired and lame.
Those creatures look interesting, you can see it's heavily inspired by the classic Alien design , but they added a new touch to them, especially like the facehugger and eggs.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 08:05:01 AM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Oct 28, 2016, 07:11:50 AM
News drought is over! Happy Friday everyone
I gave you news earlier this week! :o
Oh of course you did! My apologies my head's a bit stuck up my ass at the moment. Thank you for the little nod at the end of your article btw, it was a good read! "David's temple" is a new reveal for me!
Those new eggs give me an 'Audrey II'-vibe...
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Quote from: locusta on Oct 28, 2016, 08:09:15 AM
Yes I know, the Giger purist talking here, but still I don´t really get the loop, how this organic can become the original Bio-mechanical?
I think they're going to follow that route setup by Prometheus that something else introduced a mechanical nature to the Aliens. Maybe it was some involvement with the real Space Jockeys? Or perhaps its the other way around and something keeps corrupting it?
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Oct 28, 2016, 08:14:19 AM
Oh of course you did! My apologies my head's a bit stuck up my ass at the moment. Thank you for the little nod at the end of your article btw, it was a good read! "David's temple" is a new reveal for me!
I was pulling your leg, mate. :P No need to thank for that. We always give credit where it's due unlike others.
And yeah, that was something new I could slip into the article that I knew about. Yeah, this is David's home away from home.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 08:17:04 AM
Quote from: locusta on Oct 28, 2016, 08:09:15 AM
Yes I know, the Giger purist talking here, but still I don´t really get the loop, how this organic can become the original Bio-mechanical?
I think they're going to follow that route setup by Prometheus that something else introduced a mechanical nature to the Aliens. Maybe it was some involvement with the real Space Jockeys? Or perhaps its the other way around and something keeps corrupting it?
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Oct 28, 2016, 08:14:19 AM
Oh of course you did! My apologies my head's a bit stuck up my ass at the moment. Thank you for the little nod at the end of your article btw, it was a good read! "David's temple" is a new reveal for me!
I was pulling your leg, mate. :P No need to thank for that. We always give credit where it's due unlike others.
And yeah, that was something new I could slip into the article that I knew about. Yeah, this is David's home away from home.
Yeah because what threw me in that article from So Is It Any Good, when they referred to it as research lab. I thought it looked like prop storage. But when you said "David's temple" I was kinda like Oh, shit. So do you think the sketches are from David himself? Cause I assumed they were concept art from Odd studio! But it would make sense now if it was David analysing the life forms handwritten.
David has been up to no good. Perhaps these new aliens are not progenitors to the classic creatures at all but are a brand new species derived from david's (or engineers) meddling? And the classic designs are the original ancestors after all. Just speculating.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 08:17:04 AM
I think they're going to follow that route setup by Prometheus that something else introduced a mechanical nature to the Aliens. Maybe it was some involvement with the real Space Jockeys? Or perhaps its the other way around and something keeps corrupting it?
I'm pretty sure that's going to be David...(sigh)...
Another thing...that facehugger...you think that's a long dead and desiccated one, or do they look like that when they're 'alive'?
I'm liking the new spin on old faves...
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I know it! Ridley uses original Giger's pussy eggs!
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Oct 28, 2016, 08:23:41 AM
So do you think the sketches are from David himself? Cause I assumed they were concept art from Odd studio! But it would make sense now if it was David analysing the life forms handwritten.
Yeah, it's David's handy work.
Quote from: Alienon on Oct 28, 2016, 08:44:57 AM
I know it! Ridley uses original Giger's pussy eggs!
I still think they've got the 4 petals. Or am I seeing things?
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 28, 2016, 08:26:45 AM
Another thing...that facehugger...you think that's a long dead and desiccated one, or do they look like that when they're 'alive'?
Looks like it to me. All the rest appear dead and on display, same as the hugger. It looks quite withered, like the hugger Hicks finds.
They seem to be filming in there but it still looks like a prop department... feels kind of A|R too. Lots of unused Prometheus concepts are in there. Damn this really looks like the alien movie Ridley had intended to shoot before going all Prometheus.
I couldn't help but notice that the cave where the eggs are contained within looks very macabre, the ceiling resembles a giant ribcage of a long dead corpse. Interesting to learn more about Engineer architecture and how they viewed biology as a form of art, not just in making it, but to be inspired by it with imagination and architecture.
Like the temple in Prometheus with the skull atop of it, or those giant heads we've seen inside of giant rooms.
Perhaps these 'props' in david's chamber are not the neomorph creatures we've recently heard of but the results of david's experiments. Or maybe he is simply studying dead neomorph creatures?
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 28, 2016, 09:01:30 AM
Perhaps these 'props' in david's chamber are not the neomorph creatures we've recently heard of but the results of david's experiments. Or maybe he is simply studying dead neomorph creatures?
Or both?
Both the Egg and Facehugger looks very interesting to me.
I'm glad some of the sexual references in the design are back and it get a "bit" of mechanical DNA.
I'm still not convinced at all by the Neomorph. It reminds me in a way the Aliens in AVP.
You really had to post this as front news with pictures and everything? godamn spoilers.
F**k this is disappointing design.
Alien is dead.
Also don't forget the original designs are back as well as these new neomorph pics. Can't wait to see the neomorph creatures in action terrorizing the crew
Quote from: bobby brown on Oct 28, 2016, 09:08:17 AM
You really had to post this as front news with pictures and everything? godamn spoilers.
F**k this is disappointing design.
Alien is dead.
There is nothing too spoilery at all! We've all seen the facehugger before. Most people come to this site for this sort of stuff, we're addicts
And Alien isn't dead with this film. We've not bloody seen the proper Aliens for a start, so a bit of an overreaction!
Dunno man, in this instance I'm inclined to agree with the original poster. Nobody is saying you shouldn't cover spoilers but there's ways and means of doing it so it doesn't ruin the film for those people that want to go into the movie fresh and spoiler free. Having a banner of the spoilers as you enter the site just feels like a big "f*ck you it's our way or no way" to me.
Quote from: Neil Branquinho on Oct 28, 2016, 09:14:16 AM
Dunno man, in this instance I'm inclined to agree with the original poster. Nobody is saying you shouldn't cover spoilers but there's ways and means of doing it so it doesn't ruin the film for those people that want to go into the movie fresh and spoiler free. Having a banner of the spoilers as you enter the site just feels like a big "f*ck you it's our way or no way" to me.
Agreed.... Yet, seeing these images prepared me for the inevitable disappointment.
this is not why I became a fan of this franchise.
Alien seems to be dead guys. And nobody is more sad than me today.... :-[
Yea, if you don't want to be spoiled; then this isn't the website for you. That or at least disable images. However at the same time, we've already seen most of this. A lot of it was in the discarded Prometheus production art or at least I assumed it was discarded. Although Ridley did say that God was probably ugly so I suppose we are staring into the face of God in that hideous old-morph. It's like he forgot to brush his little mouths teeth even after all of his big mouth teeth fell out.
Finally they are getting back to some of the original concepts Ridley Scott and Giger wanted to go with but the producers at Fox at the time concidered to crude and shocking - that being the original egg design, the top, opening up like vaginas. You can clearly see the seem where the opening will be should some hapless victim happen along, the egg top would open up in essentially two top-halfs instead of the classical four-way "leaf/petal" formation as we have been already accustomed to.
I would like to see how the eggs bio-shape firstly creates the vagina-like appeture for whatever smaller proto-facehugger to errupt from or, dare-I-say-it: be "birthed" from. Then how they presumably transmutate from two sides to the more familiar four sided opening and why its bio-nature felt the need to transition from two to four. It could even be a genetic spin-off from the four petaled Xenomorph eggs!
It's not really a huge spoiler anyway, we all knew the aliens and the neomorph variations would feature. Back on topic, I think the designs in the pics could be really terrifying when terrorizing the crew of the Covenant. Excitement is reaching fever pitch for me, and Hicks, you've hinted at more exclusive scoops to come? I am ready :laugh:
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 28, 2016, 09:10:23 AM
Also don't forget the original designs are back as well as these new neomorph pics. Can't wait to see the neomorph creatures in action terrorizing the crew
Why are you so sure of this?
Hicks had said a number of times he has it confirmed that the traditional Alien designs are back for the movie along with the new neomorph creatures
Scott himself said Giger's Alien would be back ages ago.
Thing is, these appear to be missteps in whatever David is working on...Doubt we'll see any of them moving...this is just set-dressing...Much like the failed Ripleys in 'Resurrection'...cool stuff, yet not really affecting the plot.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:32:16 AM
Scott himself said Giger's Alien would be back ages ago.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/12/12/the-alien-to-feature-in-alien-covenant/
"We'll have them all: egg, face-hugger, chest-burster, then the big boy. I think maybe we can go another round or two."
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:34:09 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:32:16 AM
Scott himself said Giger's Alien would be back ages ago.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/12/12/the-alien-to-feature-in-alien-covenant/
"We'll have them all: egg, face-hugger, chest-burster, then the big boy. I think maybe we can go another round or two."
aside from this quote Hicks, have you heard from the 'secret source' that the original designs are back?
These images really do feel like an evolutionary process is at work here. A process that looks like David is at the center of and influencing. It appears this process will ultimately become the 'perfect organism' we are familiar with. I like how this is shaping (morphing?) up and I don't mind at all if this takes 3 movies to finally culminate in what we see in 'ALIEN'.
Bring it. This is awesome stuff!
Yeah. More exclusives, please, Hicks. :P
-Windebieste.
Hi Hicks. Love your website. I have visited daily for at least the last 8 years. I have no issue with spoilers. But what if someone who is not aware of your website and is just googling to find out small amounts of information clicks on and sees the spoilers? They will have a negative reaction. I don't see why it would be difficult to just announce it first. Just because it's been a certain way for 15 years doesn't mean it can't be improved. If it doesn't effect the people who want to see the spoilers by giving a warning, what is the harm? No warning means your cult followers like myself are not surprised, and are happy. New visiters to the website may not be so happy. Put a warning, everyone wins. There's nothing wrong with changing something that will hopefully bring more people to your website, without effecting us loyalists.
Very excited by the film. I still think Prometheus will come to be appreciated as a great work of film one day.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:32:16 AM
Scott himself said Giger's Alien would be back ages ago.
Isn't the man talking about the alien in general when he says this?
I doubt he has the keen insight in the various alien designs as we fans do.
In the picture, I see aliens, eggs, facehuggers. exactly what he promised?
I find it unlikely the film will also feature the original fan favourites.
I also don't believe any of those are the final 'Neomorph'...
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 28, 2016, 09:36:06 AM
aside from this quote Hicks, have you heard from the 'secret source' that the original designs are back?
Yes. I know the traditional Alien is back in it. I don't know just how faithful to the original design it is though.
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 28, 2016, 09:39:38 AM
I also don't believe any of those are the final 'Neomorph'...
The more I think about it, me either. I think these are failed "evolutions" up to what we're going to end up seeing.
I doubt we will see exactly the same as Big Chap in Alien.
Look at the concept art in the background - looks more like Giger's original concepts.
A lot of you sound alright with having David create the Aliens? Also if these photo's are the evolutionary process of creating an alien... then we aren't going to see the real alien until the movie ALIEN. Oh and shit, Davids back in the engineers seat as far as I'm concerned. :P
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 28, 2016, 09:39:38 AM
I also don't believe any of those are the final 'Neomorph'...
The more I think about it, me either. I think these are failed "evolutions" up to what we're going to end up seeing.
Great way of using old concept art, though...
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 28, 2016, 09:46:58 AM
A lot of you sound alright with having David create the Aliens? Also if these photo's are the evolutionary process of creating an alien... then we aren't going to see the real alien until the movie ALIEN. Oh and shit, Davids back in the engineers seat as far as I'm concerned. :P
I'm fine with David creating
something Alien-like. It seems pretty obvious to me that there's something about that accelerant that makes Alien-like creatures, I've no issues with David tinkering to see where it goes. But if the accelerant does make the Aliens, I'd still like it to be something ancient. Something perhaps the Engineers found? Or stole off the real Space Jockeys.
Any hints at what the next scoop will cover, Hicks? >:(
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 28, 2016, 09:52:03 AM
Any hints at what the next scoop will cover, Hicks? >:(
Wait and see! :P
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:50:51 AM
I'm fine with David creating something Alien-like. It seems pretty obvious to me that there's something about that accelerant that makes Alien-like creatures, I've no issues with David tinkering to see where it goes. But if the accelerant does make the Aliens, I'd still like it to be something ancient. Something perhaps the Engineers found? Or stole off the real Space Jockeys.
...just PLEASE don't have him use his 'new' Black Goo on himself...
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 28, 2016, 09:46:58 AM
A lot of you sound alright with having David create the Aliens? Also if these photo's are the evolutionary process of creating an alien... then we aren't going to see the real alien until the movie ALIEN. Oh and shit, Davids back in the engineers seat as far as I'm concerned. :P
I'm fine with David creating something Alien-like. It seems pretty obvious to me that there's something about that accelerant that makes Alien-like creatures, I've no issues with David tinkering to see where it goes. But if the accelerant does make the Aliens, I'd still like it to be something ancient. Something perhaps the Engineers found? Or stole off the real Space Jockeys.
Well that one alien in there looks pretty damn ancient. Although the other aliens look like a family more than anything. I'm starting to think that we come from the Alien.
im still sad that the deacon wont return, it would be nice to see what happened to it, even a simple flashback or something
Faaaaaaaaaark!
GIVE US THIS FILM NOW!!!
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 28, 2016, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:50:51 AM
I'm fine with David creating something Alien-like. It seems pretty obvious to me that there's something about that accelerant that makes Alien-like creatures, I've no issues with David tinkering to see where it goes. But if the accelerant does make the Aliens, I'd still like it to be something ancient. Something perhaps the Engineers found? Or stole off the real Space Jockeys.
...just PLEASE don't have him use his 'new' Black Goo on himself...
I'm with you there! And I swear to God if they make him the Space Jockey in one of the later films I'm hunting down whichever one of you first brought it up! :laugh:
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 28, 2016, 09:56:41 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:52:39 AM
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 28, 2016, 09:52:03 AM
Any hints at what the next scoop will cover, Hicks? >:(
Wait and see! :P
. 8) ::) haha
Sorry. :P
I've changed the rotator image to the Pilot Chamber. We've seen that ad nauseum so hopefully no-one has an issue with that. It's a frustrating balance to get right sometimes. Everyone reacts so differently.
Shouldn't be too long 'till we get a trailer, more exclusive scoops to come too, exciting times ahead!
Quote from: felipescado on Oct 28, 2016, 09:59:59 AM
im still sad that the deacon wont return, it would be nice to see what happened to it, even a simple flashback or something
There's still every possibility we may see the return of the Deacon. I wouldn't write it off so quickly based on any reveal of this evidence we have seen today. There's 2 more movies to investigate whatever happened to it. I doubt Scott will leave that avenue unexplored.
-Windebieste.
INFO OVERLOAD....INFO OVERLOAD... I THINK I'M GOING TO....
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Hmm, having mixed feelings, hopefully the film utilizes the effects convincingly.
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 28, 2016, 07:32:06 AM
Quote from: Stolen on Oct 28, 2016, 07:13:07 AM
Omg hryucdd et i b frhbfri Jb ddze tv li GC v
Incredible
Yep. Sums up my feelings as well. These do kinda remind me of the failed Ripley/Alien clones from 'ALIEN: Resurrection'. Scott sure is out to make his audience feel uncomfortable with this stuff.
-Windebieste.
My first thought exactly.
I think those Neomorphs (literally new shape in latin) are attempts for recreation of original Alien, made by Engineers or even David 8 himself. Aliens are leftovers of original Jockeys, extinct millenia ago by their own perfect creations.
i think people are forgetting that the Derelict ship in Alien was ancient, which means that the original Giger Aliens would have to be around long before the 'black goo'.
in my opinion, these Neomorphs are nothing but modified or nerfed Xenomorphs from them learning that the original Aliens are nothing but a disaster waiting to happen. hence, the black goo might have be a bioweapon created with the Alien DNA. it just doesnt make sense to me, that a prequal set back like 40 years before ALIEN would have pre-xenomorph creatures when the space jockey was thousands of years old and had eggs in its cargo way before prometheus...
Think again... these are not leaks at all ;)
Main elements of the film are not revealed at all ;D
Hate when people condemn the movie 12 months before its release!
Quote from: Enoch on Oct 28, 2016, 10:54:14 AM
Think again... these are not leaks at all ;)
Main elements of the film are not revealed at all ;D
Hate when people condemn the movie 12 months before its release!
So true... people like to bi**h and moan... just to bi**h, and moan. :laugh:
Colour me intrigued. I like the thought of David experimenting on the Neomorphs to create these experiments. Although one of them does make me think of how the Newborn in Resurrection should have been like.
Not knowing whether thats meant to be a live or dead Facehugger makes me unsure as it reminds me of the Resurrection Facehuggers and they were too fleshy for my liking
We ll all watch this movies first day it hits theatres...
after that we can judge has Ridley redeemed or not.
I m still optimistic and thats pretty good sign :laugh:
P.S. I also think all monsters on the photos
are just Davids experiments... no, I m completely sure of it.
Deacon was a biological. Neomorphs (if they on foto) will be biological. But original alien - biomechanical. How was create original alien? I think - David become a first biomech alien. Show will be infested SpaceJockey from Alien79.
MADNESS!
Love what I see especially the Facehugger and eggs. As for the Alien with the Cleft Lip.... I have no problem with it, but I do hope we get to see some other final form of creature in this film that ain't been leaked yet. If not then I can live with it because I can't wait to see how these new creatures move and act in film if them creatures are in fact alive and not just failed experiments like we see in Alien Resurrection.
As for David... Maybe he never created the Xenomorph, what if he has resurrected them with technology by using ancient text that he finds/decoded that was left behind by the long extinct Space Jockeys? (Think of Humans trying to bring dinosaurs back from the dead.) The Engineers are just a race who worships the Jockeys and have built there own civilization and technology around the long extinct ancient space jockey race. The Engineers never quite mastered the black goo but learnt enough to worship its powers. Then david comes along and has a few tricks under his belt and decides to play God. What if the original Xenomorph was a creature that was around when the universe, was chaotic and destructive and in its infant stage. What if the xenomorph is just an ancient extremophile that was built to with stand extreme climates.
Why I do love the look of the engineers in Prometheus I still hate the idea of the engineers being the jockeys.
The set design here is setting off an unsettling ambiance. It appears that "David's Temple" is housed within an Engineer structure; something about the cavernous, yet tomb-like interior reminds me of this early concept art for the pyramid in ALIEN:
(https://alienseries.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sd.png)
The Alien-creature design drawings all over the place, along with some hieroglyph/cuneiform-like designs similar to those in Prometheus, hint at something familiar,yet strangely foreboding. I don't know, this is great stuff, and what makes it unique is that this material isn't hidden behind some low-quality image, it looks professional—thus limiting too much conjecture with regard to "figuring it all out".
I am almost holding back excitement because it seems as if some of Giger's old ideas are getting a second-life here. My bias is definitely showing through, but these design elements are the reason why all of this seems so... dangerous and disturbing. Take for example the top-most image near the center of the screen in this picture:
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That definitely looks like:
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Maybe I'm reaching, but the images plastered all over the walls have a kind of "Giger-ish" flair to them.
As somebody else has already said, the very biological forms here look to be moving toward some state of 'corruption'. With no sign of Shaw, or hints as to what her role will be, I wonder if David is keeping her in stasis, harvesting her DNA somehow to create these beings... or, would he be using Engineer DNA to accomplish all of this?
Oh... and...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/28102016_05.jpg)
*drools*
These look sick, I love it!
Quote from: Enoch on Oct 28, 2016, 11:04:11 AM
P.S. I also think all monsters on the photos
are just Davids experiments... no, I m completely sure of it.
I'm with you. I don't believe these are the Neomorphs as we'll see burst out of the crew. I think these are just David's failed experiments that are related to the Alien, the Neomorph and to the black goo.
One thing I get from these images is that they look good. Like, real good. Technically good. These were taken by a professional photographer. On set. I'm thinking that while they may be leaked, they were intended to be released, regardless.
I'm thinking it's even possible that 20th Century Fox deliberately 'leaked' them. I get that vibe from these images. Such careful selection of content and composed to be intriguing rather than just revealing.
I suspect these being released the way they were wasn't an accident.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 28, 2016, 11:18:27 AM
One thing I get from these images is that they look good. Like, real good. Technically good. These were taken by a professional photographer. On set. I'm thinking that while they may be leaked, they were intended to be released, regardless.
I'm thinking it's even possible that 20th Century Fox deliberately 'leaked' them. I get that vibe from these images. Such careful selection of content and composed to be intriguing rather than just revealing.
I suspect these being released the way they were wasn't an accident.
-Windebieste.
I'm 100% with you on that.
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 28, 2016, 11:18:27 AM
One thing I get from these images is that they look good. Like, real good. Technically good. These were taken by a professional photographer. On set. I'm thinking that while they may be leaked, they were intended to be released, regardless.
I'm thinking it's even possible that 20th Century Fox deliberately 'leaked' them. I get that vibe from these images. Such careful selection of content and composed to be intriguing rather than just revealing.
I suspect these being released the way they were wasn't an accident.
-Windebieste.
Your probably right.... But it's also amazing what a Camera on a high end smartphone these days can do.
Im scared that im seeing David sitting on a throne like the one from the comics, the android wich is mutated from the goo or something.
But i see mutated xeno's kinda like the deacon looking, i thought they came from one place?
Is it possible the xeno's arent "hatefull" against humans? but the goo made them like they made Fifield.
So man gets infected, impregnates his girl, his girl gives life to trilobite, trilobite impregnates engineer,
engineer gives "birth" to deacon... still no xeno.
Facehug a human and a violent weapon is born....
Im confused here
All Covenant "leaks" are deliberate ones!
Main cards are still unrevealed :)
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 28, 2016, 11:18:27 AM
One thing I get from these images is that they look good. Like, real good. Technically good. These were taken by a professional photographer. On set. I'm thinking that while they may be leaked, they were intended to be released, regardless.
I'm thinking it's even possible that 20th Century Fox deliberately 'leaked' them. I get that vibe from these images. Such careful selection of content and composed to be intriguing rather than just revealing.
I suspect these being released the way they were wasn't an accident.
-Windebieste.
Oh they have got to be. I think Ridley saw all of the great concept material and decided to just put it all into the movie as a "this is all" of the stuff we imagined on our way to making the perfect monsters for covenant. If David08 is experimenting then why not put it all in and release the images. But in no way is any of that the final product.
-
Quote from: Enoch on Oct 28, 2016, 11:50:13 AM
All Covenant "leaks" are deliberate ones!
Main cards are still unrevealed :)
Undoubtedly. This is just a teaser.
-Windebieste.
Where did David got paper from?
The creatures are well built, but look like concept art displays, not taxidermy or other archived specimen. Too fresh, no decay or else.
The stands look cool with their archaic stone stands, but where again does the brass (or other metal parts) come from?
is David actually DaVinci?
Oh yes, and the baby skulls.
So did Shawn had kids then????
If David becomes the first Xenomorph like some people are suggesting, wouldn't that mean eggmorphing would return since the queen would not exist?
Quote from: locusta on Oct 28, 2016, 12:56:02 PM
Where did David got paper from?
The creatures are well built, but look like concept art displays, not taxidermy or other archived specimen. Too fresh, no decay or else.
The stands look cool with their archaic stone stands, but where again does the brass (or other metal parts) come from?
is David actually DaVinci?
Oh yes, and the baby skulls.
So did Shawn had kids then????
LoL i think its just the props room, i really dont see why it could be in the movie.
That's not a props room.
I wonder what will be the effects of black goo on an android like David? Will it make them self-aware and start seeing humans as its enemies or like a hybrid between a android and a Engineer?
I sometimes think since we already got Space Jockey spinoff with new species; I wonder will it a good idea to have story involving focus on an Android in Alien universe? 4 Alien movies and Prometheus have already showed us how advanced and dangerous are Androids are in Alien franchise. But I guess it might invite too many comparisons with Terminator franchise. Terminators in space lol
Quote from: Infected on Oct 28, 2016, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: locusta on Oct 28, 2016, 12:56:02 PM
Where did David got paper from?
The creatures are well built, but look like concept art displays, not taxidermy or other archived specimen. Too fresh, no decay or else.
The stands look cool with their archaic stone stands, but where again does the brass (or other metal parts) come from?
is David actually DaVinci?
Oh yes, and the baby skulls.
So did Shawn had kids then????
LoL i think its just the props room, i really dont see why it could be in the movie.
I thought that at first...then I looked closer...
Stop thinking too much. You will hurt yourself that way.
Obviously the room will be davids home in the film but I doubt it will look exactly like this in the film, I think they are storing some of those props and stuff in there that won't be in there in the final film.
I'm loving what i'm seeing but still sad at the lack of gigeresque design.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 28, 2016, 09:46:58 AM
A lot of you sound alright with having David create the Aliens? Also if these photo's are the evolutionary process of creating an alien... then we aren't going to see the real alien until the movie ALIEN. Oh and shit, Davids back in the engineers seat as far as I'm concerned. :P
I'm fine with David creating something Alien-like. It seems pretty obvious to me that there's something about that accelerant that makes Alien-like creatures, I've no issues with David tinkering to see where it goes. But if the accelerant does make the Aliens, I'd still like it to be something ancient. Something perhaps the Engineers found? Or stole off the real Space Jockeys.
Can you confirm that there are "real" Space Jockeys, Hicks?
Quote from: Giger Beast on Oct 28, 2016, 01:56:25 PM
Can you confirm that there are "real" Space Jockeys, Hicks?
I can't. Just my own speculation/wishful thinking.
I'm curious about those other bones.. what are they? Terrestial life, maybe? 'Paradise' may be teeming with life, unlike LV-223, which was barren. This creates all sorts of possibilities.
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 28, 2016, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: Infected on Oct 28, 2016, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: locusta on Oct 28, 2016, 12:56:02 PM
Where did David got paper from?
The creatures are well built, but look like concept art displays, not taxidermy or other archived specimen. Too fresh, no decay or else.
The stands look cool with their archaic stone stands, but where again does the brass (or other metal parts) come from?
is David actually DaVinci?
Oh yes, and the baby skulls.
So did Shawn had kids then????
LoL i think its just the props room, i really dont see why it could be in the movie.
I thought that at first...then I looked closer...
It could be, but i think some parts of it are in the movie, the paper on the wall indicates that Shaw or some other humans where at work there, if this is in the movie.
David would store the pictures in his "hard drive" and i dont think he need paper etc to record his work, Shaw would,
to pass it on.
And how long are they on that planet?
And an original facehugger, could that mean there is or was a queen?
There must be a bigger more dangerous force at work here besides David and the black goo.
Something experimenting again with something, maybe engineers and maybe the bigger one we all hope for.
There is a bigger force... and its neither xeno creature nor Engineers.
I think thats the idea they wanted to pursue, but I dont think we ll
see that "force" in person, just bits and pieces, a puzzle if you will.
Jockey was cool because it was mysterious and utterly cryptical.
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 28, 2016, 11:18:27 AM
One thing I get from these images is that they look good. Like, real good. Technically good. These were taken by a professional photographer. On set. I'm thinking that while they may be leaked, they were intended to be released, regardless.
I'm thinking it's even possible that 20th Century Fox deliberately 'leaked' them. I get that vibe from these images. Such careful selection of content and composed to be intriguing rather than just revealing.
I suspect these being released the way they were wasn't an accident.
-Windebieste.
I think your right cause if this was The studio would have unleashed the hounds. :laugh:
David is no way 'the first alien', the aliens have been around for hundreds of years.
I really hope we get to see that new facehugger design in action, it looks too grotesquely terrifying to be reserved for a dead cameo.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 10:02:13 AM
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 28, 2016, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2016, 09:50:51 AM
I'm fine with David creating something Alien-like. It seems pretty obvious to me that there's something about that accelerant that makes Alien-like creatures, I've no issues with David tinkering to see where it goes. But if the accelerant does make the Aliens, I'd still like it to be something ancient. Something perhaps the Engineers found? Or stole off the real Space Jockeys.
...just PLEASE don't have him use his 'new' Black Goo on himself...
I'm with you there! And I swear to God if they make him the Space Jockey in one of the later films I'm hunting down whichever one of you first brought it up! :laugh:
Have fun hunting down half the site!
Now this is how you differentiate Alien fans from AlienS fans, the later hate everything's remote different from what they know, even is Ginger's amazing original design.
Bring it A:C, can't wait!!! and let that stupid unoriginal wet fanfiction called "Alien 5/Alien 3.2" sink.
Amazing!!! It's extremely thrilling to think that this might be the first return to the original Giger design and feel of the original. Yes, it looks a bit too organic, but I guess it's just a glimpse of what we'll se in the film. It's still wonderfully macabre and disturbing; notice, for instance, the uncanny baby resemblance of the creature in the middle (roughly), that's a very gigeresque motif.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/28102016_01.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Find5.ccio.co%2FI9%2FkD%2FI5%2Fgigerf.jpg&hash=b8b4ff1349fb74df295dea35591125dfae2ace28)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-QsYnceC2WHg%2FVSZgFVmG7VI%2FAAAAAAAASYQ%2Fr1pCU1L_eFE%2Fw1200-h630-p-nu%2F207.jpg&hash=b6bdd5eebf8bdacdac33602916299db886e2f43d)
Quote from: Beatnation on Oct 28, 2016, 03:48:17 PM
Now this is how you differentiate Alien fans from AlienS fans, the later hate everything's remote different from what they know, even is Ginger's amazing original design.
Bring it A:C, can't wait!!! and let that stupid unoriginal wet fanfiction called "Alien 5/Alien 3.2" sink.
Uhh yeah, except most of the community are fans of both Alien and Aliens. I know I love aliens myself and I can't wait for Covenant.
I know it's tempting to try and lump anyone who disagrees with you into the same category though.
Quote from: Himmelblau on Oct 28, 2016, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 28, 2016, 11:18:27 AM
One thing I get from these images is that they look good. Like, real good. Technically good. These were taken by a professional photographer. On set. I'm thinking that while they may be leaked, they were intended to be released, regardless.
I'm thinking it's even possible that 20th Century Fox deliberately 'leaked' them. I get that vibe from these images. Such careful selection of content and composed to be intriguing rather than just revealing.
I suspect these being released the way they were wasn't an accident.
-Windebieste.
I think your right cause if this was The studio would have unleashed the hounds. :laugh:
Yeah, this is the type of pictures that will very quickly get them a cease & desist. We'll see what happens in the next 24 hours or so.
Is this "soisitanygood.com" a major site? Do they get lots of traffic? Would it benefit Fox to give them an exclusive such as this?
Quote from: Beatnation on Oct 28, 2016, 03:48:17 PM
Now this is how you differentiate Alien fans from AlienS fans, the later hate everything's remote different from what they know, even is Ginger's amazing original design.
Bring it A:C, can't wait!!! and let that stupid unoriginal wet fanfiction called "Alien 5/Alien 3.2" sink.
*Giger, unless you were referring to Ridley Scott.
And you really need to fumigate this troll, Corporal.
I reminded of one of my favourite quotes from Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (aka The Modern Prometheus) with regards to these images; this looks like David's 'workshop of filthy creation' :o
Bring it on.
Quote from: Beatnation on Oct 28, 2016, 03:48:17 PM
Now this is how you differentiate Alien fans from AlienS fans, the later hate everything's remote different from what they know, even is Ginger's amazing original design.
Bring it A:C, can't wait!!! and let that stupid unoriginal wet fanfiction called "Alien 5/Alien 3.2" sink.
A completely unnecessary and antagonist comment. Please don't let me see another comment like that. We're here because we all love Alien.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 28, 2016, 04:06:56 PM
Yeah, this is the type of pictures that will very quickly get them a cease & desist. We'll see what happens in the next 24 hours or so.
Is this "soisitanygood.com" a major site? Do they get lots of traffic? Would it benefit Fox to give them an exclusive such as this?
Doesn't seem to be. We had more attention on our coverage than they did on their own. I really don't think it's some sort of deliberate Fox leak.
Something about the xenon design that's missing half it's lips is really unnerving, and that new facehugger design is all kinds of awesome
I have to say I'm very impressed! I love how unnerving the fetus-like Neomorphs are, and that faccehugger is so great! I like the new design of the eggs, too. As usual, just seeing "the big chair" has me giddy. I really hope we see either more chair suit Engineers, or get actual elephant aliens.
I'm also really digging the room everything is in, with the bones and sketches on the wall. Between that and the bit of info about the ecosystem mutated by the black good, I'm getting real Fire and Stone vibes.
I hope this means a teaser trailer is imminent.
Cool! I love to see real props and real effects. Prop store is going to be a blast in 2017!
Quote from: Ultramorph on Oct 28, 2016, 05:17:58 PM
I have to say I'm very impressed! I love how unnerving the fetus-like Neomorphs are, and that faccehugger is so great! I like the new design of the eggs, too. As usual, just seeing "the big chair" has me giddy. I really hope we see either more chair suit Engineers, or get actual elephant aliens.
I'm also really digging the room everything is in, with the bones and sketches on the wall. Between that and the bit of info about the ecosystem mutated by the black good, I'm getting real Fire and Stone vibes.
I hope this means a teaser trailer is imminent.
What makes you think THOSE are Neomorphs?
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 28, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
What makes you think THOSE are Neomorphs?
It's what I choose to believe. :laugh:
Quote from: Ultramorph on Oct 28, 2016, 05:17:58 PM
I have to say I'm very impressed! I love how unnerving the fetus-like Neomorphs are, and that faccehugger is so great! I like the new design of the eggs, too. As usual, just seeing "the big chair" has me giddy. I really hope we see either more chair suit Engineers, or get actual elephant aliens.
I'm also really digging the room everything is in, with the bones and sketches on the wall. Between that and the bit of info about the ecosystem mutated by the black good, I'm getting real Fire and Stone vibes.
I hope this means a teaser trailer is imminent.
If there are elephantine Space Jockeys I'd prefer they were mentioned in passing or at the most some form of mural.
Someone just shared on Twitter -
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv3yLBRXYAAQR7n.jpg:large)
I just realized, wouldn't it be crazy if none of these showed up in the film and that the release of these photos were all part of some grand scheme to throw us off from the truth?!
Quote from: Morose on Oct 28, 2016, 05:43:09 PM
I just realized, wouldn't it be crazy if none of these showed up in the film and that the release of these photos were all part of some grand scheme to throw us off from the truth?!
Buckle-Up, Buddy...This is just the Start...
Obviously the hugger and those eggs in the above pic are much closer to the lens taking the shot, but that guy looks awfully small in the background. Perhaps this facehugger is abnormally large.
These were a deliberate "leak". From my point of view (I make my living as a professional artist), the photos are too well lit and framed. These were NOT some random guy walking around set and snapping pics with his phone. These were planned out and professionally shot on a higher end camera.
Though its nice to finally see what weve all been speculating about! Im glad they really didnt ruin much with them either. Theres still a HUGE sense of mystery as to whats going to happen and what the final creatures look like.
Im guessing the Facehuggers appear larger as they are a product of their environment (I dont know the exact term, but they look "Engineer size" in that they are bigger and wouldnt fit on a "human" head very well). I really like the inclusion of all the little native animal skeletons in the display area... Oh and I LOVE the Deacon drawing in the BG of the first photo under the traditional Xenomorph. It REALLY teases that David and Shaw DID interact with it somehow!!! Maybe they ran into it on the the way to the second Engineer ship on LV223, maybe it was a stowaway on the Juggernaut they flew off the planet with or MAYBE its a naturally occurring creature with the strain of the accelerant on LV223 (this is my best and educated guess from everything ive read and been told).
Looks like Ridley will be answering A LOT of questions with this movie and will tie together almost ALL of the extended universe stuff weve been seeing (especially from the Dark Horse comics).
Things are getting really exciting! Thank you 20th Century Fox for letting these loose on the web, we really needed them... I was starting to lose a bit of hope that we wouldnt see squat until the teaser trailer was ready (we all know its approaching, theres just no "when" at the moment).
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 28, 2016, 05:53:04 PM
Quote from: Morose on Oct 28, 2016, 05:43:09 PM
I just realized, wouldn't it be crazy if none of these showed up in the film and that the release of these photos were all part of some grand scheme to throw us off from the truth?!
Buckle-Up, Buddy...This is just the Start...
These are included in the film. :)
Interesting visuals, but nothing which rivals the original creature's design. None of them look very dangerous or predatory. Hopefully, they're nothing but background fluff in an '
Alien Resurrection'-style laboratory scene.
Quote from: Robert Gautreaux on Oct 28, 2016, 09:23:50 AM
Finally they are getting back to some of the original concepts Ridley Scott and Giger wanted to go with but the producers at Fox at the time concidered to crude and shocking - that being the original egg design, the top, opening up like vaginas. You can clearly see the seem where the opening will be should some hapless victim happen along, the egg top would open up in essentially two top-halfs instead of the classical four-way "leaf/petal" formation as we have been already accustomed to.
I would like to see how the eggs bio-shape firstly creates the vagina-like appeture for whatever smaller proto-facehugger to errupt from or, dare-I-say-it: be "birthed" from. Then how they presumably transmutate from two sides to the more familiar four sided opening and why its bio-nature felt the need to transition from two to four. It could even be a genetic spin-off from the four petaled Xenomorph eggs!
These eggs have the traditional four 'petals', not two. They just reach lower down the sides than the normal ones, that's all.
Aye yai yai. Not everything has a sinister meaning behind it.
So because they're photographed well, that means they were meant for public consumption? They weren't deliberately leaked by Fox. If Fox wanted to share them, they would've done so and not been cagey about it. Because why would they need to.
Looking at the alien missing half his lips, I'm thinking David has cut away a portion of the creature for his experiments
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 28, 2016, 06:20:59 PM
Interesting visuals, but nothing which rivals the original creature's design. None of them look very dangerous or predatory. Hopefully, they're nothing but background fluff in an 'Alien Resurrection'-style laboratory scene.
As I understand it, this is what they are. Background pieces in David's lab.
Anyone else think we'll be seeing a David affix a facehugger onto somebody's face, a'la Alien: Engineers? Seems very likely.
I like the idea of David playing God with a lab full of Resurrection-like failures. That will make the eventual appearance of the traditional Big Chap even more special.
Yeah is Giger, the 'n' was a typo, go figure. And I'm talking the AlienS fanboys who put it in a pedestal over the masterpiece that is Alien and Alien 3 -Assembly Cut-.
You can like whatever you want, just don't start calling this Alien designs "bad", because they aren't.
First off, great work through the years, AVP Galaxy! I've been lurking in the shadows of this site since the announcement of the AVP movie.
I am getting the feeling this movie will move in the direction of David creating the "Perfect Organism" and it scares me to think that way. I've read all the books and comics on the Alien side and if I remember right they were more natural to some sort of home world. I don't mind the direction Scott took it with Prometheus, in that the Engineers were trying to make one, but for the Company themselves to do it irks me. It takes the "must have it" aspect away for me which is huge. Hope I'm wrong.
It looks like a return to the digitigrade structure. Just when I thought Alien Isolation was going to be the last to make that flaw. :-\
;D Well said!
They just want more marines, more power loaders, more rifles, more Queen...
Might be a long shot, but I just remembered this DeviantArt post of Andy Brase (great comic and ink artist)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Forig02.deviantart.net%2F055a%2Ff%2F2010%2F123%2F7%2Fd%2F7decc3aaccf85e5a49104e061a95a319.jpg&hash=0fbd3bf3c30be3a9b4e1a894e1cab8ccd0e3eaad)
And when you read about Scott´s praise for the sketch ( http://andybrase.deviantart.com/art/Alien-Sketch-162841615 )
and then look at this:
Quite the contrary. I do a lot of work in social media promotion and management as well,. A lot of my clients prefer "leaking" official music, demos, promotional materials etc thru various outlets outside of their own pages/sites prior to releasing ANYTHING "official" to the public. It helps to gauge interest in marketing, editing, sales etc etc.
I highly doubt these were an under the table kind of leak... Pretty sure this was done for marketing purposes to create buzz and get people like us talking!
Quote from: Beatnation on Oct 28, 2016, 07:04:58 PM
Yeah is Giger, the 'n' was a typo, go figure. And I'm talking the AlienS fanboys who put it in a pedestal over the masterpiece that is Alien and Alien 3 -Assembly Cut-.
You can like whatever you want, just don't start calling this Alien designs "bad", because they aren't.
Quote from: Dindas on Oct 28, 2016, 07:31:26 PM
;D Well said!
They just want more marines, more power loaders, more rifles, more Queen...
You guys are being "That Guy"
And who is "They"? No one here is acting that way, you're just putting down other fans for the sake of it.
An interesting detail that has been noted:
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LrNM20ZTlOvlGMJdqr_BX30R0519zdhmNAjOPiitigc71mDg6K1uF3NblYSQCZoJT8U=s85)
Reminds me of this:
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Hope we see something like this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/CH-16.jpg)
I wouldn't call concept art spoilers, might be rejected concepts...egg head xenomorphs make me cringe...look like retarded cousins of the Alien...
I'm not really happy about having the facehugger spoiled for me on Twitter this morning & would have preferred to wait for the movie. I gotta say it does look impressive though. Try to be more careful guys.
If you don't want to know about Covenant stop going to and following websites that specialize in releasing spoilers for these films.
In today's digital world you will have to actively avoid the source of spoilers. Yeah sure you want to come here and talk aliens but you'll have to sacrifice that if you don't want to know anything about the film.
You should be more careful, not AvPGalaxy.
Wow.
So it looks like we can add more weight to that Dr. Moreau vibe.
There are lots on implications here you guys!
Think about it:
These photos either mean, David has somehow had people to experiment on before the crew of the COVENANT arrives. Or... This film takes place over some time, because this set indicates somewhat extensive time has passed.
Hicks was right. It is reminiscent of the 'Ripley finds her clones' scene in A:R. Which was supposed to have been taking place over time, BEFORE they scientist got her cloning process right, and before the Betty arrived. Right? So what does that mean? How did David obtain the specimens needed to perform these experiments? Or does the crew of the Covenant spend a considerable amount of time, unaware of his, experiments as people go missing?
Or is he using Shaw's body somehow?
Eggs imply a queen, as well. No?
So there is a lot going on here, eh?
Let alone the idea that there is an Engineer temple where David is performing these experiments and when you combine it with this idea of air-born spores and the other leaked images, a full film is starting to take shape.
Which brings me to this - The drawing immediately to the right of the bust, I do believe this is our AIR-BORN SPORE.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.pictures.zimbio.com%2Fmp%2FtAFka-1ie8Tx.jpg&hash=508bbd75f58bd9c421a5f975888dd7b3514e907a)
Tough titty? If they spoil something expect complaints.
Or AvPGalaxy could be responsible & make sure their thumbnails on a completely separate platform don't reveal a major spoiler, a standard precaution in today's digital world. Being user-friendly is typically considered pretty important for site traffic/followers.
Yes, its a mutated spore!!! :o
David maybe used those Engineer-humanoid like race
to experiment with Goo. Maybe the planet David and Shaw discovered (The Paradise)
is not at all the place of origin of those engineers from LV-223, maybe the humanoids on Paradise
planet are some kind of early civilization society worshiping engineers etc, or they are indeed kind
inhabitants of PARADISE which David uses to create serpents and his abominations. Playing God and Satan
at the same time.
There is a lot going on in Covenant, thats for sure!
Quote from: Enoch on Oct 28, 2016, 09:30:56 PM
Yes, its a mutated spore!!! :o
David maybe used those Engineer-humanoid like race
to experiment with Goo. Maybe the planet David and Shaw discovered (The Paradise)
is not at all the place of origin of those engineers from LV-224, maybe the humanoids on Paradise
planets are some kind of early civilization society worshiping engineers etc, or they are indeed kind
inhabitants of PARADISE which David uses to create serpents and his abominations. Playing God and Satan
at the same tame.
There is a lot going on in Covenant, thats for sure!
I really expect there to be very few Engineers in this move. I kinda expect that this PARADISE is what happened
Quote from: CainsSon on Oct 28, 2016, 09:40:12 PM
Quote from: Enoch on Oct 28, 2016, 09:30:56 PM
Yes, its a mutated spore!!! :o
David maybe used those Engineer-humanoid like race
to experiment with Goo. Maybe the planet David and Shaw discovered (The Paradise)
is not at all the place of origin of those engineers from LV-224, maybe the humanoids on Paradise
planets are some kind of early civilization society worshiping engineers etc, or they are indeed kind
inhabitants of PARADISE which David uses to create serpents and his abominations. Playing God and Satan
at the same tame.
There is a lot going on in Covenant, thats for sure!
I really expect there to be very few Engineers in this move. I kinda expect that this PARADISE is what happened
Oh there will be a lot of engineers in this move. A lot. A lotta dead engineers. :P
Still nothing in the images is a spoiler. It's stuff we've all seen before. Still this brings up the question Shaw asked David back on the Prometheus, what will he do when Weyland is not around to program him any more. His reply was doesn't everyone want they're parents dead. Clearly David wants to exterminate all of mankind.
Well maybe those burned tall humanoids from previous "leaks" are not
Engineers. Who burned them, it seems like they were running towards their sacred
places (they seem a bit primitive if I may notice)... there were great destroyed monuments of humanoid wearing
something like roman toga on those sets...Who knows... maybe that was another planet on which engineers
seeded life and created humanoid life forms. The gliphs on walls we saw from leaked photos are like Egyptian temple writings.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/200516_06.jpg)
This looks primitive to me, maybe they are not Engineers we saw on lv-224!
Im guessing Covenant will have quite a bit of "flashbacks" in regards to David and Shaw, plus what happened in the Engineers past. The images associated with the above are most likely part of the "what happened to the Engineers" plot of the film.
my best guess with the Engineers is either David destroys them all in a mass "cleansing", or the beings ABOVE the engineers found out what they were doing and wiped them all out in one giant and horrible flash.
I have to wonder about the space jockey/engineer room. You think Ridley is going to go back to the original giant size like in the first movie, or keep it smaller like in Prometheus?
Quote from: BlazingAngels on Oct 28, 2016, 09:26:42 PM
Tough titty? If they spoil something expect complaints.
If you follow a site that's been spoiling information for 15 years, expect spoilers.
Heads up the Deacon spotted on set!!!!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2Fxxenomorph-deacon1.png.pagespeed.ic.aeqbdyZfvN.png&hash=d7dd3754a3ae2fa073a470706e9b1668c7ec02df)
Cool. I would be inclined to avoid a Resurrection vibe, but this could be good...
Hicks, can you confirm/deny that the main creature design of the film hasn't been shown here? I'm not talking about the original Giger alien. Do these images show us the neomorph? Thanks.
I'm actually really excited about this film. I haven't been this excited for a film in a long time. I personally think Ridley is setting this all up to be a demiurge/Gnostic tale of creation and perversion. Is David's fate ultimately to become the demiurge? He's an isolated artificial monstrosity that is molding matter, creating life, and maybe his ultimate creation will be to give himself eternal life through the birth of a creature that can reproduce. Interesting and thought provoking stuff.
A thumbnail for spoilers isn't too bad of an idea. For the most part I have noticed a few complaints about them in the past. No need to patronize a member for feeling just a little outraged.
As for the leaks themselves, I was skimming through them previously and did not actually give too much attention to it.
This looks atrocious! Chet looks better than this... This design isn't just bad it's dynamically bad! Look at this thing! This looks like it was regurgitated and spat out of an imagination think tank!
The ornamental details just scream clichè and the rendition of it is almost as inconsistent than xenomorphs in Antarctica. The very delineation that has been crossed with this design can no longer be reversed. Oh well boys! Looks like Alien will be hitting Tremor tier franchise quality this upcoming year..
The thing that made the xenomorph so alluring as a design is how zoological it resembled. This is a deformed mutant with an anatomy that just doesn't make sense. I always try to keep optimistic but I can't after seeing this design... :(
Quote from: Himmelblau on Oct 28, 2016, 11:47:27 PM
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Great to see one of Giger's designs incorporated into the film. It actually fits the description of that NEOMORPH that walks on all fours at first and then upright. Another design element I always liked by Giger was the human lips that KISS its victim before shooting its tongue into their mouths and pulling their brains out. Ive never really understood why Fox wasnt all over that.
If you look at the creature with its back to us in the bottom left corner, I think that fit the description of the NEOMORPH as well. Two dorsal spikes and a pointed head that rips from inside the host.
What the hell is that big spike in the background? I dont think its a tail. Maybe the elongated back of something's head?
Quote from: CainsSon on Oct 28, 2016, 09:26:09 PM
Wow.
So it looks like we can add more weight to that Dr. Moreau vibe.
There are lots on implications here you guys!
Think about it:
These photos either mean, David has somehow had people to experiment on before the crew of the COVENANT arrives. Or... This film takes place over some time, because this set indicates somewhat extensive time has passed.
Hicks was right. It is reminiscent of the 'Ripley finds her clones' scene in A:R. Which was supposed to have been taking place over time, BEFORE they scientist got her cloning process right, and before the Betty arrived. Right? So what does that mean? How did David obtain the specimens needed to perform these experiments? Or does the crew of the Covenant spend a considerable amount of time, unaware of his, experiments as people go missing?
Or is he using Shaw's body somehow?
Not necessarily. They could just be getting grown very quickly on their own in giant protein vats (not unlike Ripley 8, herself).
I suspect David 8 (interesting how they have the same numeral) will have come across corrupted data indicating some kind of ultimate genetic discovery and he's been attempting to follow in their footsteps to recreate it. It'll then be revealed that the original Alien is that template. Shit goes down and it'll be implied that maybe there were surviving caches of these creations scattered around space, implying what we saw on the derelict, in '
Alien', happens to be one of them and that more potentially exist.
Quote from: Himmelblau on Oct 28, 2016, 11:47:27 PM
Heads up the Deacon spotted on set!!!!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2Fxxenomorph-deacon1.png.pagespeed.ic.aeqbdyZfvN.png&hash=d7dd3754a3ae2fa073a470706e9b1668c7ec02df)
No. The Deacon design had no dorsal tubes.
Actually, what a lot of these designs remind me of is '
Splice'.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 29, 2016, 02:51:25 AM
Quote from: CainsSon on Oct 28, 2016, 09:26:09 PM
Wow.
So it looks like we can add more weight to that Dr. Moreau vibe.
There are lots on implications here you guys!
Think about it:
These photos either mean, David has somehow had people to experiment on before the crew of the COVENANT arrives. Or... This film takes place over some time, because this set indicates somewhat extensive time has passed.
Hicks was right. It is reminiscent of the 'Ripley finds her clones' scene in A:R. Which was supposed to have been taking place over time, BEFORE they scientist got her cloning process right, and before the Betty arrived. Right? So what does that mean? How did David obtain the specimens needed to perform these experiments? Or does the crew of the Covenant spend a considerable amount of time, unaware of his, experiments as people go missing?
Or is he using Shaw's body somehow?
Not necessarily. They could just be getting grown very quickly on their own in giant protein vats (not unlike Ripley 8, herself).
I suspect David 8 (interesting how they have the same numeral) will have come across corrupted data indicating some kind of ultimate genetic discovery and he's been attempting to follow in their footsteps to recreate it. It'll then be revealed that the original Alien is that template. Shit goes down and it'll be implied that maybe there were surviving caches of these creations scattered around space, implying what we saw on the derelict, in 'Alien', happens to be one of them and that more potentially exist.
Quote from: Himmelblau on Oct 28, 2016, 11:47:27 PM
Heads up the Deacon spotted on set!!!!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2Fxxenomorph-deacon1.png.pagespeed.ic.aeqbdyZfvN.png&hash=d7dd3754a3ae2fa073a470706e9b1668c7ec02df)
No. The Deacon design had no dorsal tubes.
Actually, what a lot of these designs remind me of is 'Splice'.
I can see the Splice stuff, especially in the Giger design, oddly enough.
I see your angle but I think it is way to exposition heavy, in terms of where the Aliens are, it's also an uneventful explanation. Films like this - SHOW they dont tell. For them to find David having simply grown these things in tubes from scratch...Its very, Bond-villainy. I wouldn't like that. And Im not sold on the idea that Shaw is some baby machine. It could be way too over the top if handled wrong. But I don't expect they will remove the one facet of Alien that makes the creatures so Alien-y IE; the body horror stuff... Making David 8 (i think that was a nod to where its going) experiment to create these things and find some way to do it without actually DOING it to people, is a bit anti-climactic and exposition heavy. Again, Im not saying the Shaw abuse is WHAT IS HAPPENING per se, but I do think its looking like what we will be getting.
What I do think people are outright wrong about is FLASHBACKS. I dont think anything in this will involve flashbacks. Scenes shuffled in more than one timeline, maybe. But I seriously doubt we are going to see any real flashbacks. I also hope we dont get any more silly ghostly video recordings like we did in PROMETHEUS.
Quote from: CainsSon linkI also hope we dont get any more silly ghostly video recordings like we did in PROMETHEUS.
obviously someone didnt see Prometheus in IMAX 3D... those scenes were amazing!!!
Pretty cool, nothing we haven't seen before really, was afraid it'd be genuinely spoiler-rific, loving some of those sketches. I can imagine the camera panning across most of this stuff however, seems like a lot of concept-stage material.
So....David convinces Shaw to reattach his head, they hop on the Juggernaut, zip through space, stop at an interstellar art supply store to stock up on paper, modeling clay, paints, charcoals and display stands, then land on some jungle planet where David begins his career as a designer for Sideshow Collectables? And maybe makes some real aliens on the side?
I seriously hope those are models with reference sketches and not something that we will actually see in the film.
And here I was thinking maybe Ridley and Fox may have learned from all of the mistakes that made Prometheus the shit show that it was....
Maybe David steals Shaw's body and then forgets that the black goo works on organic matter; BAM, Alien with biomechanical parts.
The sexual stuff is so blatant to a point where it's laughable and feels like self parody. And the Xenomorphs look inbred.
Sorry chaps, Fox legal have asked me to remove the images from the news post. They still seem to be at the original source for now. I added them to the first post as a backup.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2016, 11:10:14 PM
Quote from: BlazingAngels on Oct 28, 2016, 09:26:42 PM
Tough titty? If they spoil something expect complaints.
If you follow a site that's been spoiling information for 15 years, expect spoilers.
Walled in behind spoiler tags, a rule of the very site that we all are expected to adhere to.
Quote from: Scorpio on Oct 29, 2016, 01:32:56 AM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Oct 28, 2016, 11:47:27 PM
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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3b/37/06/3b37069080a97b0e04acab696b74d235.jpg
Always reminded me of Aphex Twin's "Rubber Johnny"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRvfxWRi6qQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRvfxWRi6qQ)
Kind of disturbing but worth the watch... You can clearly tell the similarities here. I wonder if Scott or anyone on his team is a Chris Cunningham (from Aphex Twin) fan.
And while talking about creepy Chris Cunningham / Aphex Twin video monsters, I wouldn't mind seeing the creature that comes out of the TV at the 3:52 mark in "Come to daddy" in a future Prometheus related movie. That scene creeps the hell out of me, especially the mechanized mad-man cry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmNmpGnKp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmNmpGnKp4)
Fast forward to 3:52 (and 5:02)
And...........they're gone!
And...........they're gone!
And...........they're gone!
Nothings ever gone from the internet.
Yes, we just chase the furry white rabbit down the rabbit hole. :laugh:
Quote from: Darkness on Oct 29, 2016, 05:22:32 AM
Sorry chaps, Fox legal have asked me to remove the images from the news post. They still seem to be at the original source for now. I added them to the first post as a backup.
Hehe.... thank goodness for the "Save Image As..." option in just about any browser. <<grin>>
Quote from: Ephemer Nine on Oct 28, 2016, 08:06:42 PM
An interesting detail that has been noted:
http://www.alien-covenant.com/aliencovenant_uploads/557x743xtf.png.pagespeed.ic.uaWECJAIQi.webp
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LrNM20ZTlOvlGMJdqr_BX30R0519zdhmNAjOPiitigc71mDg6K1uF3NblYSQCZoJT8U=s85
Noticed that too. It might be neomorph spore carier. It is under facehugger sketch.
They're gone, but I'm happy with what we've seen thus far. The designs are the most Giger-esque since Alien. Hard to be mad about that. I just really hope we haven't seen the big bad.
Quote from: Scott on Oct 29, 2016, 09:07:51 AM
They're gone, but I'm happy with what we've seen thus far. The designs are the most Giger-esque since Alien. Hard to be mad about that. I just really hope we haven't seen the big bad.
I have a strong feeling that we havent.
lol yeah no way.
So...we have the images for 24 hours before they order the 'cease and desist'?
Either someone isn't doing their job right...or someone IS doing their job right... ;)
Ridley returning to his love for Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Those bones, walls, looks like a mix of TCM and Hills have eyes.
Love it !!!.
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 10:48:16 AM
So...we have the images for 24 hours before they order the 'cease and desist'?
Either someone isn't doing their job right...or someone IS doing their job right... ;)
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Quote from: Scott on Oct 29, 2016, 12:56:22 AM
I'm actually really excited about this film. I haven't been this excited for a film in a long time. I personally think Ridley is setting this all up to be a demiurge/Gnostic tale of creation and perversion. Is David's fate ultimately to become the demiurge? He's an isolated artificial monstrosity that is molding matter, creating life, and maybe his ultimate creation will be to give himself eternal life through the birth of a creature that can reproduce. Interesting and thought provoking stuff.
Very interesting angle; if David is the Demiurge perversing and corrupting the original essence, could that be the xenomorph we all know?
Want!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff291%2Fsabres21768%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_43.jpg&hash=b14c89cdae50cc98c3b92adf92c2b0d418c8838a)
The legs on this variation of the Facehugger remind me very much of a house centipede. Creepy.
Quote from: Darkness on Oct 29, 2016, 05:22:32 AM
Sorry chaps, Fox legal have asked me to remove the images from the news post. They still seem to be at the original source for now. I added them to the first post as a backup.
So isitanygood.com is playing hardball with Fox. Ouch!
Anyway, there goes the theory that it was deliberately leaked.
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 10:48:16 AM
So...we have the images for 24 hours before they order the 'cease and desist'?
Either someone isn't doing their job right...or someone IS doing their job right... ;)
Nah, Los Angeles was just asleep for most of the time those images were up.
Quote from: Bad Replicant on Oct 29, 2016, 03:17:20 PM
The legs on this variation of the Facehugger remind me very much of a house centipede. Creepy.
I love how all the creatures look...wrong. Obvious defects and flaws; like wandering though a hospital's 'Black Museum'...I can only IMAGINE how frustrating that must be for David..
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger link
Anyway, there goes the theory that it was deliberately leaked.
well at least i was correct in my observation that the photos were professionally shot ;)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 29, 2016, 03:32:11 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Oct 29, 2016, 05:22:32 AM
Sorry chaps, Fox legal have asked me to remove the images from the news post. They still seem to be at the original source for now. I added them to the first post as a backup.
So isitanygood.com is playing hardball with Fox. Ouch!
They've got some balls. They're still up on there.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Oct 29, 2016, 01:19:03 PM
Want!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff291%2Fsabres21768%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_43.jpg&hash=b14c89cdae50cc98c3b92adf92c2b0d418c8838a)
"Get off my lawn! Darn space-kids..."
Quote from: sugarhigh on Oct 29, 2016, 05:13:27 AM
So....David convinces Shaw to reattach his head, they hop on the Juggernaut, zip through space, stop at an interstellar art supply store to stock up on paper, modeling clay, paints, charcoals and display stands, then land on some jungle planet where David begins his career as a designer for Sideshow Collectables? And maybe makes some real aliens on the side?
I seriously hope those are models with reference sketches and not something that we will actually see in the film.
And here I was thinking maybe Ridley and Fox may have learned from all of the mistakes that made Prometheus the shit show that it was....
I'm honestly surprised at how many people are picking up on the art supply thing. It never even occurred to me. :laugh:
Quote from: Scott on Oct 29, 2016, 12:49:57 AM
Hicks, can you confirm/deny that the main creature design of the film hasn't been shown here? I'm not talking about the original Giger alien. Do these images show us the neomorph? Thanks.
As far as I'm aware, we haven't seen the Neomorphs.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2016, 07:17:32 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 29, 2016, 03:32:11 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Oct 29, 2016, 05:22:32 AM
Sorry chaps, Fox legal have asked me to remove the images from the news post. They still seem to be at the original source for now. I added them to the first post as a backup.
So isitanygood.com is playing hardball with Fox. Ouch!
They've got some balls. They're still up on there.
They're probably "all away/out of office for the weekend". :laugh:
I would somehow like to see those huge weird Giger babies :D
Not hoping that they are cocooned human babies :D
Carlos Huante Vibe
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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2.jpg)
Quote from: Infected on Oct 29, 2016, 09:02:39 PM
I would somehow like to see those huge weird Giger babies :D
Not hoping that they are cocooned human babies :D
Those are classified as 'landscapes' so however big those suckers are is anybodies guess...
That second image looks like the blurry images of the tripod/octopus like creatures shown in the Arrival trailer.
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 09:13:36 PM
Quote from: Infected on Oct 29, 2016, 09:02:39 PM
I would somehow like to see those huge weird Giger babies :D
Not hoping that they are cocooned human babies :D
Those are classified as 'landscapes' so however big those suckers are is anybodies guess...
They are freaky, and the only things come to my mind is "pulse rifle" and that wouldnt be a luxury accesory.
Ooohhh... Exciting events accompanying the leaked images!
So you've had to remove the images? I'm not surprised. I love the speed at which 20th Century Fox responds when they see something they don't like.
It's interesting to note those images are still posted at the source, though. If they are leaked images, Fox will have every right to have them pulled down or take further action. I still believe it's possibly a marketing ploy on Fox' part... but who knows? Either way, they have an obligation to themselves to protect their own Property. I get that.
So yes. Maybe that site is 'playing hardball' with Fox. If so, not a good idea, that one.
Anyway, we shall see...
Looking forward to see how this outcome pans out.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Oct 29, 2016, 05:48:31 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Oct 29, 2016, 01:32:56 AM
Quote from: Himmelblau on Oct 28, 2016, 11:47:27 PM
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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3b/37/06/3b37069080a97b0e04acab696b74d235.jpg
Always reminded me of Aphex Twin's "Rubber Johnny"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRvfxWRi6qQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRvfxWRi6qQ)
Kind of disturbing but worth the watch... You can clearly tell the similarities here. I wonder if Scott or anyone on his team is a Chris Cunningham (from Aphex Twin) fan.
And while talking about creepy Chris Cunningham / Aphex Twin video monsters, I wouldn't mind seeing the creature that comes out of the TV at the 3:52 mark in "Come to daddy" in a future Prometheus related movie. That scene creeps the hell out of me, especially the mechanized mad-man cry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmNmpGnKp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmNmpGnKp4)
Fast forward to 3:52 (and 5:02)
After seeing RUBBER JOHNNY my mates and I always wanted Cunningham to do an Alien film.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 29, 2016, 07:18:36 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Oct 29, 2016, 01:19:03 PM
Want!
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"Get off my lawn! Darn space-kids..."
Well RSCOTT always wanted the ALIEN to speak. Maybe the Deacon grows up to be more human-like than we expected?
Quote from: CainsSon on Oct 30, 2016, 12:09:04 AM
Well RSCOTT always wanted the ALIEN to speak. Maybe the Deacon grows up to be more human-like than we expected?
If I had to guess, I'd like to think that the Deacon is British and thus would enjoy a cup of tea and robust conversation.
At some point it will start looking and acting like the newborn fro A:R.
So many new reveals around here since I last checked in! :o
As far as these latest 'leaked' pics of 'mutated' aliens go, I'm getting a distinct flashback to ALIEN RESURRECTION's 'Newborn' due to the 'translucent white' direction that the designs have taken. Even the 'eggs' and 'facehugger' are looking distinctly 'albino-like' now, compared to the much darker coloration of the ALIEN stages - perhaps these 'eggs' develop in an underground setting, and are deprived of sunlight?
But even if a new design of the final adult stage ends up with the same kind of 'whitish' coloration as these pics reveal, it will hopefully look a lot more disturbing than the twitchy-nosed 'Newborn'! ;)
To be honest, I'm not too keen on the whole 'pointy-headed' look that Ridley went for with the 'enamel-toothed' baby 'Deacon' in PROMETHEUS, as a way of ripping through backs, necks, whatever in this...as I still think that ALIEN's original 'chestburster' stage was far creepier due to it eating it's way out of a host with it's 'metal' teeth!
I still get the feeling that Ridley wants to deviate from the original creature designs quite a bit, and I'm now beginning to wonder if we will end up with anything that looks remotely similar to the original 'bio-mechanical' adult stage from ALIEN by the time this prequel trilogy is complete. Still, as long as whatever final design comes across as suitably menacing, I'll be reasonably content.
Now I really must go and comment on that excellent news about Guy Pierce FINALLY being included without the 'old man' makeup.
;D ;D ;D
My reaction to the leaked images: (well i've already seen it before and that ghastly big head with the diagonal teeth ... we will have to see how it plays on screen rather than make an assumption) I'm not thrilled which is probably a good thing. I'd rather see it in context with the film. Unfortunately we don't haveGiger painting these things for us so the unsettling factor is not quite there yet.
Quote from: sugarhigh on Oct 29, 2016, 05:13:27 AM
So....David convinces Shaw to reattach his head, they hop on the Juggernaut, zip through space, stop at an interstellar art supply store to stock up on paper, modeling clay, paints, charcoals and display stands, then land on some jungle planet where David begins his career as a designer for Sideshow Collectables? And maybe makes some real aliens on the side?
I seriously hope those are models with reference sketches and not something that we will actually see in the film.
And here I was thinking maybe Ridley and Fox may have learned from all of the mistakes that made Prometheus the shit show that it was....
Huh? What makes you think all of that stuff wasn't taken from the escape pod at the end of the Prometheus?
You probably mean Vickers' lifeboat Val? The escape pods could barely hold one person much less an extensive selection of art supplies.
But yeah, the lifeboat even had a grand piano onboard. I'd easily buy it if it was stocked up on art materials as well.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 30, 2016, 04:17:09 PM
You probably mean Vickers' lifeboat Val? The escape pods could barely hold one person much less an extensive selection of art supplies.
But yeah, the lifeboat even had a grand piano onboard. I'd easily buy it if it was stocked up on art materials as well.
Yeah the pod. I mean, it was loaded with books, the piano, a bar if I'm remembering correctly... I see no great issue with spare paper or whatever. It really doesn't stretch incredulity.
Why would they stop to grab art supplies from the pod.
I'd imagine when Shaw decided to leave for Paradise aboard the Engineer ship she'd return to the escape vehicle to salvage whatever supplies she could. As for the lurking menace inside, let's just assume that the Deacon is at least as smart as any other Alien we've seen and figured out how to escape the life boat before she reaches it and she finds the door open. The Deacon has long gone.
Then it's a matter of pillaging anything she finds to take with her on her quest. She (or David) has probably re-purposed whatever has been salvaged to make those drawings.
Why would she even go back to the lifeboat? It's probably the only guaranteed source for drinkable water and food, medical supplies, bedding... whatever. It's worth the risk. Engineer ships don't look to inviting for human habitation. She'd work that out pretty quickly, I'd imagine.
-Windebieste.
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Quote from: windebieste on Oct 30, 2016, 10:37:09 PM
I'd imagine when Shaw decided to leave for Paradise aboard the Engineer ship she'd return to the escape vehicle to salvage whatever supplies she could. As for the lurking menace inside, let's just assume that the Deacon is at least as smart as any other Alien we've seen and figured out how to escape the life boat before she reaches it and she finds the door open. The Deacon has long gone.
Then it's a matter of pillaging anything she finds to take with her on her quest. She (or David) has probably re-purposed whatever has been salvaged to make those drawings.
Why would she even go back to the lifeboat? It's probably the only guaranteed source for drinkable water and food, medical supplies, bedding... whatever. It's worth the risk. Engineer ships don't look to inviting for human habitation. She'd work that out pretty quickly, I'd imagine.
-Windebieste.
I don't think she ever came back.
We know the creature is "dead" and is kind of a facehugger but Shaw doesn't know that.
Last she saw, she escaped alive with a creature attacking both of them. It could still be here, in fact it could still hunt her.
She knows she can't get back to earth with the Derelict and its cargo, it's way too dangerous.
She makes the only bet she can which is go to the engineer homeworld.
She doesn't need supply, the cryogenic sleep will work well enough and she will have immediate answer upon arrival.
It's likely to fail at 99.9% but that's the only thing she can do and then eventually send it to a distress message explaining everything (why the engineered died and blablabla all the story) just like she did when she left LV-223.
I agree. The likelihood of her going back to the lifeboat is negligible. And yes. She would probably be expecting the Trilobite to be waiting for her without realising it's probably dead and it's the Deacon instead that she would encounter.
...but if you want to know how she got those 'art supplies', then there is a source within walking distance from where the movie left off.
-Windebieste.
Wow, guys, you know what that could mean, right? Shaw died at the end of Prometheus and her voice was just David mimicking her. I wouldn't be surprised if all that was needed to reattach his head was to plug it back in. He then fools her into going back to the life boat for supplies and gets murdered by the Deacon.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2016, 11:08:20 PM
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20th Century Fox acts fast when they want to. Too bad they were taken down but it's too late for anything dispersed on the 'net, though. I guess we'll see the images emerge Officially in good time. They did look Pro.
-Windebieste.
I like all the leaked designs from this so far... getting me fairly optimistic at the moment....
really dont like the supposed "leak" involving a certain character
Spoiler
being "ripley's mom".. which i hope isnt true.
All this stressing over the paper and stuff in that room is silly. David is living in a temple built by our creators. They seem pretty advanced so for sure the idea that they would have paper is not too odd. Second, even if over time it disappeared on Paradise, David 8 is able to learn at an alarmingly advanced rate. Why shouldnt he be able to harness the resources both provided and needed to do so on paradise, in 10 years time, and simply make paper? If you were alone on a desserted planet for 10 yes with Davids abilities, why wouldnt you?
Goddammit I just got spoiled by the damned images. >:( Well, at least this makes all the more likely that David really was the actual creator of the original Xenomorph creature... 8)
Not necessarily...
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 31, 2016, 12:05:54 AM
...but if you want to know how she got those 'art supplies', then there is a source within walking distance from where the movie left off.
Couldn't they be from the crash of the Prometheus scattered on the ground ?
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Concerning David body, something tells me, he will wear the engineer "Space Jockey costume".
He is the real "Prometheus" of the first film since he was the one who deciphered and used the god's technology.
For that he lost his body, condemned to be imprisoned for eternity.
It's unclear how long it took before the 'baby Deacon' erupted from the dead 'Engineer's body, and it's certainly possible that Shaw risked going back for certain supplies before she eventually took off.
But personally, I like to believe that Shaw got the hell away from that crashed 'juggernaut' and nearby 'escape pod' as quickly as possible after getting onto her vehicle with David's bodyparts...and that the 'sketches' seen in the background of those 'leaked' shots are merely 'production art' that happened to be on the walls of that room, along with the 'baby alien' concepts (altough there was a bust of a larger deformed version too). Also, the 'production art' of the adult 'neomorph' we saw on the walls might even be 'unused' versions, at the end of the day.
Time will tell, but I've certainly 'saved' all the shots for future reference, as it will be interesting to compare how things pan out come the actual movie. ;D
Quote from: BringbackJonesy! on Oct 31, 2016, 02:20:59 PMBut personally, I like to believe that Shaw got the hell away from that crashed 'juggernaut' and nearby 'escape pod' as quickly as possible after getting onto her vehicle with David's bodyparts...
At the very least, it would be stupid of her not to collect some food and water before leaving.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 30, 2016, 10:22:30 PM
Why would they stop to grab art supplies from the pod.
"Lifeboat" or "Life Support Module", the escape pods were those little coffins in which Vickers escaped the Prometheus. The lifeboat had two years worth of food on board. Probably needed a water reclaimer as well. Might as well grab whatever else.
Quote from: windebieste on Oct 31, 2016, 12:05:54 AM
She would probably be expecting the Trilobite to be waiting for her without realising it's probably dead and it's the Deacon instead that she would encounter.
Quotelet's just assume that the Deacon is at least as smart as any other Alien we've seen and figured out how to escape the life boat before she reaches it and she finds the door open. The Deacon has long gone.
Quote from: BringbackJonesy! on Oct 31, 2016, 02:20:59 PM
It's unclear how long it took before the 'baby Deacon' erupted from the dead 'Engineer's body, and it's certainly possible that Shaw risked going back for certain supplies before she eventually took off.
No, the film makes it quite clear. The deacon was only "born" after Shaw and David left LV-223.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2016, 11:08:20 PM
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Ah, so finally "back in the office"! ;) Remember that trick next time you publish something "hot".
Quote from: SiL on Oct 30, 2016, 10:22:30 PM
Why would they stop to grab art supplies from the pod.
That's a different question from 'Where could they have gotten them?', and I'm not equipped to work out their motive :laugh: I have no idea. Long ride, play some hangman?
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Goodbye subtlety. Yuck.
Yeah, that's not very subtle at all. Looks like a full-fledged gynecological exam cut'n'pasted on top of a rolly polly dressed as a crab.
I mean, it's a good start (the design) but i needs a lot of polishing and revamping. Needs to be more subtle and elegant.
QuoteLooks like a full-fledged gynecological exam cut'n'pasted on top of a rolly polly dressed as a crab.
LOL! As described in the script, I'll bet!
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Oct 31, 2016, 10:41:36 PM
Yeah, that's not very subtle at all. Looks like a full-fledged gynecological exam cut'n'pasted on top of a rolly polly dressed as a crab.
I mean, it's a good start (the design) but i needs a lot of polishing and revamping. Needs to be more subtle and elegant.
...said, 'SpreadEagleBeagle'...
@ The Eighth Passenger - Ha ha, silly me. You are of course right about the 'baby Deacon' being born at some time AFTER Shaw and David have taken off from LV-223. ::)
(I kinda forgot that fact due to various comments here and elsewhere in the past, which speculated on Shaw running into the 'Deacon' BEFORE she took off - which were all WRONG of course, as she was already away as you pointed out. I guess my memory lapse was influenced by that kind of thing when I commented in my previous post! ;D)
So yes, I absolutely agree now that Shaw might have bravely ventured back to the 'Lifeboat' for various supplies before she took off.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Oct 31, 2016, 10:41:36 PM
Yeah, that's not very subtle at all. Looks like a full-fledged gynecological exam cut'n'pasted on top of a rolly polly dressed as a crab.
I mean, it's a good start (the design) but i needs a lot of polishing and revamping. Needs to be more subtle and elegant.
Oh, yes, chestbusters are sooooooo subtle!
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Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Oct 31, 2016, 10:41:36 PM
Yeah, that's not very subtle at all. Looks like a full-fledged gynecological exam cut'n'pasted on top of a rolly polly dressed as a crab.
I mean, it's a good start (the design) but i needs a lot of polishing and revamping. Needs to be more subtle and elegant.
Oh, yes, chestbusters are sooooooo subtle!
I think the original/classic design of the Chestburster is "subtle" in all its phallic beauty. Sure, the later designs (like in A:R) went all out fleshy penis with foreskin and all, I'm not going to deny that, but still, the classic Chestburster was more than a toothed penis despite being, well, a
toothed penis.
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Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Oct 31, 2016, 10:41:36 PM
Yeah, that's not very subtle at all. Looks like a full-fledged gynecological exam cut'n'pasted on top of a rolly polly dressed as a crab.
I mean, it's a good start (the design) but i needs a lot of polishing and revamping. Needs to be more subtle and elegant.
Oh, yes, chestbusters are sooooooo subtle!
A predictable response.
There a varying degrees of subtlety. That facehugger has none at all.
Eh it looks dead and probably dissected. I'm fine with some huggers being, ahem, less subtle than others.
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Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Oct 31, 2016, 10:41:36 PM
Yeah, that's not very subtle at all. Looks like a full-fledged gynecological exam cut'n'pasted on top of a rolly polly dressed as a crab.
I mean, it's a good start (the design) but i needs a lot of polishing and revamping. Needs to be more subtle and elegant.
Oh, yes, chestbusters are sooooooo subtle!
A predictable response.
There a varying degrees of subtlety. That facehugger has none at all.
You're right. But I love it.
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I like that facehugger and egg better than the originals.
Giger had a very "IN YOUR FACE" aesthetic and this is actually more true to that than a lot of designs after the first film.
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 01, 2016, 11:58:03 AM
Giger had a very "IN YOUR FACE" aesthetic and this is actually more true to that than a lot of designs after the first film.
This is very true. Most of it is not subtle at all.
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Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Oct 31, 2016, 10:41:36 PM
Yeah, that's not very subtle at all. Looks like a full-fledged gynecological exam cut'n'pasted on top of a rolly polly dressed as a crab.
I mean, it's a good start (the design) but i needs a lot of polishing and revamping. Needs to be more subtle and elegant.
...said, 'SpreadEagleBeagle'...
Haha, touché! I admit defeat on that one 8)
Quote from: PsyKore on Nov 01, 2016, 09:01:52 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 01, 2016, 11:58:03 AM
Giger had a very "IN YOUR FACE" aesthetic and this is actually more true to that than a lot of designs after the first film.
This is very true. Most of it is not subtle at all.
But niethr was this one one. http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t443/schlitzie/IMG_0230_zps92570b37.jpg~original
If I remember correctly, the original egg was supposed to have a slit in one direction, but it was deemed too vaginal and potentially offensive, so it became an X cut at the top. I think the final design is iconic, but it would have been really creepy to see the original intent..
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Quote from: skhellter on Nov 01, 2016, 11:58:03 AM
Giger had a very "IN YOUR FACE" aesthetic and this is actually more true to that than a lot of designs after the first film.
This is very true. Most of it is not subtle at all.
But niethr was this one one. http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t443/schlitzie/IMG_0230_zps92570b37.jpg~original
The facehugger in Alien had a different belly. This vaginal underside was a Cameron addition. But you're right, I mean, Giger used to pass out pornography to the Shepperton crew as reference material.
"Giger used to pass out pornography to the Shepperton crew as reference material."
'Nuff said. ;D
It's a far cry from the "perfect organism" of 1979, the sleek, rigorously symmetrical killing machine designed by Master Giger. Seems like Master Ridley has decided to tread the grotesque territory of "Alien Ressurection" and its insultingly grandguignolesque Newborn. Failed experiments by David ? So he'd really be a modern Prometheus then. I also can't help feeling that the "hero" creature is going to look way more complex than the glimpse we are offered here.
Coincidentally, I am currently reading Greg Bear's "Eon", a hard sci-fi classic that had been sitting in my bookshelf for decades and the term "Neomorph" is used in there, along with the word "Homorph". Could it be the source of that neologism ? Maybe not, it's quite easy to coin for someone with a modicum of knowledge of the Latin language and according to me it's a sign of Scott's resolve to be done once and for all with the Xeno's "traditional" aspect, and impose a new shape. Easier said than done.
As for subtlety... If Covenant is mean, sick, outrageously violent and gory, harrowing and nerve-wracking, with Scott back in visionary mode, as it promises to be so far, I couldn't be more satisfied.
What are these things? Alien-birds? dinosaurs? :P
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What are these things? Alien-birds? dinosaurs? :P
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Perhaps Paradise is teeming with life... Really, it should be since we already know it has a developed eco-system. That also makes more sense out of how David is obtaining these specimens. Maybe Shaw isnt a baby alien machine after all? I do hope shaw has become something Giger would be proud of though...somehow.
I've always just got the impression that she'll continue living, or die, as a human.
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Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Nov 02, 2016, 05:38:35 PM
What are these things? Alien-birds? dinosaurs? :P
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Perhaps Paradise is teening with life... Actually, that makes more sense out of how David is obtaining these specimens perhaps... Maybe Shaw isnt a baby alien machine after all. I do how shaw has become something giger would be proud of though...
Yup, perhaps they are native creatures of Paradise and I definitely want to imagine Shaw transformed into some kind of entity
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Quote from: Crazy ShrimpI definitely want to imagine Shaw transformed into some kind of entity
thats just a bit masochistic no? lol ;)
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Quote from: BringbackJonesy! on Oct 31, 2016, 11:59:47 PM
@ The Eighth Passenger - Ha ha, silly me. You are of course right about the 'baby Deacon' being born at some time AFTER Shaw and David have taken off from LV-223. ::)
(I kinda forgot that fact due to various comments here and elsewhere in the past, which speculated on Shaw running into the 'Deacon' BEFORE she took off - which were all WRONG of course, as she was already away as you pointed out. I guess my memory lapse was influenced by that kind of thing when I commented in my previous post! ;D)
So yes, I absolutely agree now that Shaw might have bravely ventured back to the 'Lifeboat' for various supplies before she took off.
So this still means Shaw hasnt encountered a birth of a xeno from a facehugger/trilobite yet,
so it still remains a mystery to Shaw and David.
Quote from: Himmelblau on Nov 02, 2016, 09:12:15 PM
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I expect to see something like that in the movie 8)
I'm getting the feeling that the black goo is in fact the synthesized and distilled version/extract/medium of the Xenomorph genome, which the Engineers have been tampering with for ages, trying to control it desperately. But no matter how much they work with it the black goo always find its way back to the Xenomorph's original and primordial shape and form. Always defaults back to the creature we know so well.
In other words: the Xenomorph's genetic buildup and entity is dominant yet adaptable on a level not even the Engineers can grasp. Maybe it's the genetic memory? Who knows.
Either that or the Aliens/Xenos as we know them were created just a decade or so before the events and incidents taking place in ALIEN. The fossilized Engineer and Derelict however suggest that that is not the case.
Anyways, I prefer the concept I wrote in the first paragraph. The Alien needs to be an enigma, primordial and always outside of our scientific knowledge and reach.
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Love that face under the dome
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Nov 03, 2016, 12:13:03 AM
I'm getting the feeling that the black goo is in fact the synthesized and distilled version/extract/medium of the Xenomorph genome, which the Engineers have been tampering with for ages, trying to control it desperately. But no matter how much they work with it the black goo always find its way back to the Xenomorph's original and primordial shape and form. Always defaults back to the creature we know so well
Hoping for this as well. You want to use the old god blood for advancements but those tentacled horrors will always seep through and take a familiar shape.
I got a feeling David Injecting himself could lead to the final form, as the tubes in these androids are very reminicent of the tubes on the heads and bodies of the aliens, biomechanical is the key word, what would happen if you inject it to a android? like in the Prometheus comic book ?
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Nov 03, 2016, 12:13:03 AM
I'm getting the feeling that the black goo is in fact the synthesized and distilled version/extract/medium of the Xenomorph genome, which the Engineers have been tampering with for ages, trying to control it desperately. But no matter how much they work with it the black goo always find its way back to the Xenomorph's original and primordial shape and form. Always defaults back to the creature we know so well.
In other words: the Xenomorph's genetic buildup and entity is dominant yet adaptable on a level not even the Engineers can grasp. Maybe it's the genetic memory? Who knows.
If they go anywhere with it, this is kind of what I'm hoping for too. I honestly don't mind the concept of the black goo being a template for the Aliens as we know them. It also means I'm not too fussed on all these Alien-like creatures as a result of the experimentation and corruption of the accelerant.
Perhaps David realizes, after all of his experimentation, that he is the missing ingredient in creating the 'perfect organism' and that 'sometimes to create, one must first destroy.'
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Nov 03, 2016, 08:45:21 AM
Perhaps David realizes, after all of his experimentation, that he is the missing ingredient in creating the 'perfect organism' and that 'sometimes to create, one must first destroy.'
No thank you! I really really really hate the idea that David is going to be responsible for the final Alien, the Alien as we know it. I'd like it to remain an ancient creature. This is why I don't mind the idea of the goo being an ancient template that the Engineers stumble upon.
I'm with you Hicks, and I share your dislike for the idea, though I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he has some part to play in the Alien's final form. Altough having said that, the Engineers pressure suits in Prometheus were of a biomechanical nature so perhaps David is not going to be utilised as an essential cog in the Alien's biomechanical aesthetic.
Having David create the Alien would not make them 'alien'.
It'd really knock them down a peg in my opinion. It work works better that they're this ancient force of destruction.
I don't see it transpiring that way, Ridley mentioned a 'when' in regard to the creation of the xeno, so I think if it comes from the primordial ooze and left to evolve on a planet I'd be fine with that.
The black goo creates creatures that create other creatures like the Deacon.
The humans and the engineers are of the same origin as you could see in Prometheus,
the question then was "who made them"
So we are both made by the ones who made the engineers and us, then the engineers are just like us,
they stole the goo from the creators and try to experiment etc.
They are jealous of us and thats why they tried to wipe us out, they see us as inferior, and it think they want to be the only ones.
So im wondering as for the big bald head statue in the urn room, is in fact an image of the engineer race or is it a image of the real first creator of the engineer race the human race and the xeno/black goo.
Was that creator a humanoid? and is that why the engineers hate us, because we look like the creators and they dont so much.
Is the original creator killed by the black goo or the creatures from it, and are the engineers trying to recreate the creators or trying to control the black goo, or is the black goo the blood of the creator?
Is there an alternate timeline or time travel gonna be inserted, so David is possibly becoming the creator?
Or is the creator and maybe the first human coming from a planet so far away that it took even 2000 years in lightspeed to reach us.
Anyway, the question "who made them" hopefully will be answered, and i hope that they just dont only show some new xeno's and mystery but the new big kahuna, the one who started this all, and we are most likely the last race alive vs the black goo/xeno's
To be honest, I'm still hopeful that the original ALIEN movie lifeform...which was a tough sonofabitch with acid for blood...turns out to be something that had 'evolved naturally' that way over time, due to some extremely harsh conditions on it's unknown birthplace.
Having disappointingly 'retconned' Giger's fossilized 'spacejocky' skeleton into a tall, bald humanoid strapped/helmeted into a navigation device...I was hoping that Ridley's prequels would still keep the origins of the original 'xenomorph' creature as being of a completely natural, mysterious nature...even though PROMETHEUS kinda hinted that this organism *might* have ended up being the result of some past 'bio-toxin' ('black goo') experimentation by the 'Engineer' race...
(well that's what the movie implies to me at least, seeing as we see a 'xenomorph'-looking carving on the wall of the 'ampule/giant head' room)
Thing is, Ridley initially intended to move away from ALIEN's original 'xenomorph' design I believe, and seemed to be attempting to give us 'different'-looking creatures instead...so I was hoping that the 'black goo' material was actually some kind of 'by-product' substance from the 'xenomorph's world which the 'Engineer's had come across during their past travels - a substance which they gathered in quantity, as it had some 'transformative' properties which were of great interest to them.
However, it seems from early reports that the 'black goo' is affecting parts of the 'Engineer's homeworld in ALIEN:COVENANT...although it remains to be seen if it's actually a 'naturally-occurring' substance on that planet, or not...
Personally, I'm still hoping against hope that the 'black goo' on 'Paradise' turns out to be the contents of some 'urns/'bio-weapons'? which were onboard the 'juggernaut' which 'David' and 'Shaw' took off in...and that David emptied some of them out onto the ground to see what happens, which resulted in the indigenous plantlife forming the deadly 'spores' mentioned in recent reports...
(this would allow for the 'black goo' stuff to remain an 'alien substance' from the 'xenomorph's homeworld, rather than something which originates on the 'Engineer's homeworld itself)
Unfortunately for me, it *may* turn out that the origin of the ALIEN 'xenomorph' will be 'retconned' in ALIEN:COVENANT to be the result of some long past 'transformational' experimentation caused by the 'Engineer' race, using naturally-occurring 'black goo' from their 'Paradise' homeworld...
...and given that Ridley may *still* wish to veer away from giving us the exact same look of the original 'bio-mechanical xenomorph', we could just see similar experimentation by 'David' giving a range of 'different'-looking results - the 'leaked' pics of 'albino'-colored eggs etc. certainly seem to support this notion...
(I'd actually be quite happy with this outcome, as the long-crashed 'derelict'/'juggernaut' eventually seen in ALIEN could just be implied to be carrying an indigenous species from where the 'black goo' substance originated...rather than a creature specifically 'created' by the 'Engineers' through 'experimentation of their own!)
On the other hand, I could always stick to my preferred view of the ALIEN movie if things don't turn out in a way that I like...and just look on these prequels as being and 'alternative universe' version of events... ;)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 09:23:50 AM
It'd really knock them down a peg in my opinion. It work works better that they're this ancient force of destruction.
f**king A. Great Old Ones.
One last thought -
Although it seemed that the 'black goo' creature variations of PROMETHEUS had a very quick growth rate...that certainly ties in with the near-instantaneous disintegration effects that the 'Engineer' once he drinks that substance from the bowl at the start of the movie...
The thing I find interesting about these pictures, if they do indeed show David's Den, indicate that the planet they landed on did not have a highly advanced civilisation there. David is using parchment and charcoal by the looks of it, the stands for the creatures look like roofing slates and bent metal rods and even the 'forceps' look like they came from a Blacksmith's forge. It seems as though David has had to start from scratch, using primitive tools and materials, so I'm wondering what happened to the Juggernaught and it's comprehensive database that the android could have accessed. If the planet's inhabitants suffered some kind of 'alien attack' (as the other spoiler pics indicate) I should imagine that it happened some time ago. This makes me wonder where David is getting his genetic material from for his experiments and judging by the various shapes and sizes of the 'morphs' on display I would imagine that he's working his way through the planet's indigenous rodents and primates. Those skulls in the bowl would appear to belong to some type of monkey-like creature.
Of course that always leads to what happened to Dr Shaw.....
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 03, 2016, 09:21:11 AM
Having David create the Alien would not make them 'alien'.
Heck, having the engineers create the aliens already makes them not alien.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 05, 2016, 07:27:15 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 03, 2016, 09:21:11 AM
Having David create the Alien would not make them 'alien'.
Heck, having the engineers create the aliens already makes them not alien.
Alright it's official, big chap is an illegal alien!
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 05, 2016, 07:27:15 AM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 03, 2016, 09:21:11 AM
Having David create the Alien would not make them 'alien'.
Heck, having the engineers create the aliens already makes them not alien.
I'm somewhat sold on the idea that the Engineers aren't the true Jockey's - whether that comes to pass or not, it's my preference fanon at the minute. I like the idea of the Jockeys being the creators of the Alien though, I always have. Just as long as its from times long gone.
Just to drum up the matter, alien doesn't have to mean naturally occurring evolved organism. Even as an engineered weapon the alien can still be considered a true alien by definition. So no sense in getting hung up on that. Still the bottom line is that thanks to the alien murals in Prometheus, it is cemented in alien lore that the creature existed long before David and his experiments. Worse case it's a resurrection... ugh that word again.
Those leaked pictures are pretty damning in my opinion. The bust of that old decrepit alien is in fact going to be the creator of the engineers and thus our creator by linage. It all fits Ridley's own description during the production of Prometheus.
Quote from: BonesawT101 on Nov 03, 2016, 08:45:21 AM
Perhaps David realizes, after all of his experimentation, that he is the missing ingredient in creating the 'perfect organism' and that 'sometimes to create, one must first destroy.'
I agree that this is probably the way this is headed...but he would NEVER do this to himself, as his experiments would cease and he's FAR too narcisistic...Oh, look..."Walter,...can you help me with this?...."
How about this: The original xenomorphs were intelligent and had a culture; a culture of power and domination, one decided to become more powerful and mutated itself into becoming the classic xenomorph; the perfect organism. This ancient civilization eventually succumbs to self-destruction after much conflict, with one notable poor sap succumbing to deadly cargo and crashing on LV-426. All that remains are the "engineers" - a creation of the ancient, intelligent xenomorphs - isolated on a planet to carry on the legacy. What was left of the xenomorphs was broken down into the accelerant, and locked away forever, with a covenant made never to re-animate it. Someone broke that covenant...
The original xenomorphs looked like the deacon, as evidenced by the mural in Prometheus. THOSE are ancient, but the ones we all know are a new strain.
My excitement for this film grows the closer we get to release. I simply cannot wait to see the Pompell scene! How do you guys imagine it on screen? Will it be night time? Will it be all foggy and gloomy? Or will it be on a bright and sunny day? Even from that picture, during the daylight the statues still looked bleak and macabre. That's a good sign, it goes to show that regardless of lighting, that scene could still be eerie as ever.
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Nov 05, 2016, 04:40:38 PM
My excitement for this film grows the closer we get to release. I simply cannot wait to see the Pompell scene! How do you guys imagine it on screen? Will it be night time? Will it be all foggy and gloomy? Or will it be on a bright and sunny day? Even from that picture, during the daylight the statues still looked bleak and macabre. That's a good sign, it goes to show that regardless of lighting, that scene could still be eerie as ever.
This. 8)
Quote from: Scorpio on Nov 05, 2016, 04:32:43 PM
The original xenomorphs looked like the deacon, as evidenced by the mural in Prometheus. THOSE are ancient, but the ones we all know are a new strain.
I Believe this is where it will be decided that its original form what that, more fleshy, then biomechanical elements will be infused.....Walter.
Quote from: AsapJockey on Nov 06, 2016, 09:31:19 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Nov 05, 2016, 04:32:43 PM
The original xenomorphs looked like the deacon, as evidenced by the mural in Prometheus. THOSE are ancient, but the ones we all know are a new strain.
I Believe this is where it will be decided that its original form what that, more fleshy, then biomechanical elements will be infused.....Walter.
Maybe we'll finally find out if the alien has a soul or not.
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Nov 05, 2016, 04:40:38 PM
My excitement for this film grows the closer we get to release. I simply cannot wait to see the Pompell scene! How do you guys imagine it on screen? Will it be night time? Will it be all foggy and gloomy? Or will it be on a bright and sunny day? Even from that picture, during the daylight the statues still looked bleak and macabre. That's a good sign, it goes to show that regardless of lighting, that scene could still be eerie as ever.
They probably stand in front of the real supreme space jockey and he is not pleased and instantly shoots a fart and wipes out the entire engineer race.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 05, 2016, 07:27:15 AMHeck, having the engineers create the aliens already makes them not alien.
It sort of doesn't, because the Engineers are aliens too :P
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 07, 2016, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 05, 2016, 07:27:15 AMHeck, having the engineers create the aliens already makes them not alien.
It sort of doesn't, because the Engineers are aliens too :P
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Unless you're referring to the illegal kind. :P
Chicken/egg.
You think that head/bust prop is our first glimpse of our new aliens?
Looking at its display stand, I guess it's not a prop, but a maquette.
I really hope it is not.
Aliens are supposed to be partly beautiful. Really don't feel this redneck hillbilly mutant approach.
I missed the leak... Could anyone share them with me in a PM?
I'm not too worried about spoilers... For me the enjoyment in this franchise is more about the execution than the result.
Quote from: bobby brown on Nov 07, 2016, 04:13:06 PM
You think that head/bust prop is our first glimpse of our new aliens?
Looking at its display stand, I guess it's not a prop, but a maquette.
They are props from the film. Largely seen in the background though. Just some indication of experiments David has been playing around with while he's been along.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Nov 08, 2016, 07:16:03 AM
I missed the leak... Could anyone share them with me in a PM?
I'm not too worried about spoilers... For me the enjoyment in this franchise is more about the execution than the result.
Go to the first post in this thread.
Don't know how Darkness machinated that but they're still up there. Maybe the images are linking to SuicideDoors' private image hosting account.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 08, 2016, 04:31:10 PM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Nov 08, 2016, 07:16:03 AM
I missed the leak... Could anyone share them with me in a PM?
I'm not too worried about spoilers... For me the enjoyment in this franchise is more about the execution than the result.
Go to the first post in this thread.
Don't know how Darkness machinated that but they're still up there. Maybe the images are linking to SuicideDoors' private image hosting account.
Now I feel stupid. Shoulda just checked the front page.
Thanks.
Something came to mind while reading all of these ideas.
David already thinks hes better than us humans. Going by the whole we come from engineers thing and are basically the same, perhaps David thinks he is "above" them also.
Also if he jacked another ship, maybe he has engineer tissue to work with for these experiments. Who knows? Those things just sort of popped in my head while reading. Experimenting on Shaw is one thing, but to just use the flesh of beings whom seed worlds like they are livestock, that might piss off a God, if there is one in this universe.
Images aren't available anymore. Can someone pm me what was found? I'm really interested.
I think this is related to the creatures on display here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BPbgHS3AATr/
QuoteIn 2016, I did some work for Fox Studios preparing some Taxidermy pieces for the next Alien movie - Alien: Covenant, which is coming out later this year. One of those pieces was a taxidermy cat. As the cat's body would have otherwise gone to waste, I kept it in my freezer ever since with the intention of cleaning up its bones and articulating the skeleton. This little side project is finally underway - the bones have been eaten clean by a hungry Dermestid colony, and this photo is of the freshly cleaned bones in a bucket, ready to undergo the degreasing process. Once the bones are degreased and whitened I will put this 230 piece puzzle back together. Stay tuned.
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Jonesy?
I knew, the cat was the mystery all along! The wicked mastermind, scheming to get the crew to LV 426, using Ash only as a minion and decoy.
RIP Jones 2017.
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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 19, 2017, 04:20:22 PM
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That picture's just too much for words. :o