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Title: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Darkness on Jun 16, 2004, 10:01:30 PM

Yes, Apple have finally posted the final trailer for Alien vs Predator.

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Thanks to Jeff, HopeOfTheFuture, Yarah, Vincent and Xenoforge.

Update: Over at AvPWorld, Corpral Hicks has posted about 100 high quality screenshots from the Alien vs Predator trailer. Well worth checking out but the page will take some loading for 56K users.

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Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Jun 16, 2004, 10:10:51 PM
COOL!    ;D   I'm really hyped for this movie. I can't wait anymore...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Regicidal_Maniac on Jun 16, 2004, 10:11:44 PM
WOOOOOOO!!!!!!  Hell Yeah!  Everything I see for this makes me believe it will at least blow Alien Resurrection and Predator 2 out of the water.  And hopefull it will re-energize the suits into thinking that Alien and Predator are viable properties again which could mean Alien 5 (no Sigourney) and Predator 3 maybe with The Rock. I'd kill to see a Predator vs The Rock film.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheGetRight on Jun 16, 2004, 10:15:25 PM
That was the most perfect trailer i've ever seen.  Holy F*&^ing Sh*t he really did it.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: roger that on Jun 16, 2004, 10:36:54 PM
i wonder why avp-movie.com is always late? every other site gives much better infos than the official site.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: flonge on Jun 16, 2004, 10:50:27 PM
"This is getting better and better every minute!" As Dutch says in the chopper ; Beginning of P1...  I think this is going to be A FANTASTIC MOVIE!  What more could we fans expect? This is my dream world getting filmed... I was sceptical about the pyramids and all, but it's just getting better than my own ideas, which I thought were unbeatable ;)  I can't wait until I'm really inside the cinema watching this movie!!!!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Jun 16, 2004, 10:51:32 PM
Some questions...  http://www.crabshadow.com/injektilo/avp16.jpg Is the shot with the facehugged people from the flashback of does it happen in the present? I don't think the Predators will dress the hosts so nice, and I think those people are offered by the villagers, so the Predator will let them live (in that flashback). But if that is the case, will we get to see a whole flashback of people being impregnate, chestbursters, full grown alien and then the fight on top of the pyramid where the shit breaks loose...?  Will we get to see the Super Facehugger that will impregnate someone with a Queen? I mean the symbol on this shot looks like the Alien3 logo of the Queen embryo. http://www.crabshadow.com/injektilo/avp18.jpg The stones have a shot of the facehugger and alien queen embryo (?)...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: inkedspawn on Jun 16, 2004, 11:02:59 PM
the way those ppl are dressed id say its a flash back and the villagers would of dressed um like that.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Nik on Jun 16, 2004, 11:17:09 PM
guys of corse its a flash back because theirs other pictures of them but all bones and the face huggers still on them. I cant wait tell this movie!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hicks on Jun 16, 2004, 11:19:36 PM
Always wen im atskool i gottafixmy windows cos some stuff is corrupt, so Ill not be on for a while darkness
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Dillon on Jun 16, 2004, 11:22:45 PM
Is anyone else having problems downloading the trailer directly to the pc, i want to keep it.  The stream is fine but the link for view and review appears to be broken.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 16, 2004, 11:56:20 PM
oh god the scene with the aliens on the pyramid looks sooooo good! when i saw the preview b4 that i was sorta cringing cuz it looked funny but now! WOW! the visuals are done so it looks SIIIIICK!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: glenbob on Jun 17, 2004, 12:01:35 AM
i think it'll be good when it comes out    ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: johnny horn on Jun 17, 2004, 12:02:23 AM
i dont care bout the movie i just love moya    :D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Z on Jun 17, 2004, 12:03:09 AM
OMG!!!,what a great trailer. The fight on the pyramid as really shaping up the Aliens are really well gone, wow great job Paul.  Paul sayd hes bein waiting for 10 years to make dis movie,well so did i and i most say im hard to please and boy do dis look like a great movie.Also i know that a lot of you ppl where not sure of the story,i lot of you dint like the fack that it wa in Articka, cuz of the fack that the Preds dont like cold. Thats not true at all the thing is that Predators prefer the heat then the cold but they can easely hunt in the cold, its like us humains we prefer the heat but can be in the cold as well, just not to long   ;)  .  Conserning the asteck ppl. Yeah like nik sayd they are the asteck from a flashback,we are gona see there skeletons in the present.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: tribalcore on Jun 17, 2004, 12:15:41 AM
quick question to everyone? do you think Paul anderson will have an ending that may continue or leave you hanging? have you guys notcied almost every movie PA has done he always left it to continue? for instince mortal kombat at the end shao kahn appears? event horizon? resident evil? if so what do you think? good bad?  i hope he doesnt do it.if he does do it...dont do it lke godzilla. jus tmy opinion . preview looks brutal. cant wait for this movie \m/ rock on!!!!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: 3dAnimator on Jun 17, 2004, 12:23:48 AM
They are in antartica couse its a "become a man" ritual, so the harder the better,   fight aliens in the freezing cold If u are really a pred kid!     ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: cookies on Jun 17, 2004, 12:36:03 AM
didnt enjoy the trailer to much.  and its nice to see the pyramid  is every ones fav when its done in cg.  I only like the alien design from aliens and the pred looks to fake. Original style looks more hunterish... stupid how they go for style now.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: d-mac on Jun 17, 2004, 12:45:42 AM
SOME PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE HAPPY EH COOKIE? BE GREATFULTHIS FILM GOT MADE COS IAM AND IT LOOKS FANTASTIC-AND BELIVE ME-IAM VERY HARD TO PLEASE. WHAT YOU GUYS THINK IT WILL RAKE IN THE BOX OFFICE - 60 MILL FIRST WEEKEND. AS LONG AS U GUYS GO C IT AS MANY TIMES AS POSSIBLE SO THERE CAN BE MORE FILMS BECAUSE ITS EXCS AT FOX WHO DECIDE IF THERE R GOING TO BE OTHER MOVIES BUT ONLY IF THIS ONE DOES WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D     ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Riddick on Jun 17, 2004, 12:45:50 AM
I think the pred looks superb. i seriesly cant wait for the movie. i wonder if the third game would come out, I REALLY HOPE SO   :-\  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Jun 17, 2004, 12:53:43 AM
OK people, pay attention to this shot: 00:01:47. You see some lights moving in the snow. It looks like it is nothing, but THIS IS THE PREDATOR SHIP ARRIVING. It does not happen in front of the man, but in the air above. After the lights you see a larger moving piece, the last part of the ship.    ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: carlito on Jun 17, 2004, 12:59:39 AM
ya i't f**king good,but is there gonna be a predalien???
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ArhnoldGovernor on Jun 17, 2004, 12:59:54 AM
Cookies are you kidding? This trailer rocks! Can't wait to see Aliens and Predators kick butt. The thing I am interested to know is that guy who said "you ugly mother...:, that line is blatant reference to the first pred movie when Arnold first saw's Predator's first. I wonder if he would win the fight, I certainly hope not, since it would make the predator look weak and incompetent. I mean, if they have aliens to content with and they get killed by a puny human?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Winston on Jun 17, 2004, 01:01:05 AM
You guys do realize that the scene with the pyamid is also a flash back. tat is the scene the Paul talks about in his interview featurette
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: carlito on Jun 17, 2004, 01:01:40 AM
i whould like to see the predator with the blades 4 times longer vs the alien queen !! like in the internet exclusive trailer!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Rusty Nails on Jun 17, 2004, 01:10:43 AM
Uhm, isn't that quite obious, Maurice? :) I mean you clearly see a ship flying over him..  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: cookies on Jun 17, 2004, 01:21:11 AM
for sure that guy saying "you ugly mother"  is the worst part.  Man thats how a 13 year old acts in a school play.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: inkedspawn on Jun 17, 2004, 01:27:56 AM
i dont think he was saying you one ugly mother f**k*r like arnie, he was going to say you one ugly sun of a bitch. PG-13 this will be.i agree his acting was very poor as he was saying it, didnt convince me at all.I thought some of the pred armor didnt look very metallic to me but when you see the predator vision the the celtic pred up close it looks good.Cant wait!!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Z on Jun 17, 2004, 01:35:03 AM
Your right D-Mac some people are never happy.   Thats cuz they are stuck in there lil mind that evrey thing most stay the same witch is so stupid i wount want a PREDATOR 1 or a Alien that looks the same as the Alien we saw in the other ALIENS movie,sure they are great but dis is a new movie get it!.  New ideas and thats great i for 1 wount want to see all the Predators look like the Predator in PREATOR,it woud just be plain and it woud seam as we arrent moving foward,but dont get me wrong im a huge fan of the Predator in PREDATOR, but like i sayd in a nother topic those Predators are hunting Aliens not humains so they use bigger armor bigger wrist blades,bigger shoulder cannon ext.Also i think the Aliens look really cool. I love the one in the movie ALIENS but to me the Aliens in AVP are the best alien so far.Some of you people need to stop compering the clasic movie from the new movie.Cuz dis new movie aint PREDATOR 1 OR ALIEN,ALIENS its a new movie AVP get it!   8)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: DeaconRage on Jun 17, 2004, 01:46:02 AM
me personaly, i think the special effects and graphics own everything
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: jevjnd2000 on Jun 17, 2004, 01:52:24 AM
Special fx wise I don't see why people refer to the old movies, this is a modern $90 million flick.  This movie is going to be phenomenol visually, I wish that some wouldn't complain about it.  I for one couldn't be happier, and looking back on it PW was the right choice.  It's going to be nice come August, I hope that everyone here enjoys it, I know that I will.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: DeaconRage on Jun 17, 2004, 01:52:29 AM
and guys, this is a sequal to the predator franchinse, so why would everything stay the same. dont  things evolve or create new weapons,ect. hence the new weaponry, if everything stayed teh same, humans would still be in tehs tone age.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: jevjnd2000 on Jun 17, 2004, 01:55:31 AM
Special fx wise I don't see why people refer to the old movies, this is a modern $90 million flick.  This movie is going to be phenomenol visually, I wish that some wouldn't complain about it.  I for one couldn't be happier, and looking back on it PW was the right choice.  It's going to be nice come August, I hope that everyone here enjoys it, I know that I will.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Jun 17, 2004, 01:56:28 AM
id just like to add to Z comment in that this will become a classic.  i have never been MORE BLOWN AWAY- sex aside.  i told you all the CGI was AMAZING!!!!!!!   and dont even get me started on the MUSIC!!!!!! its utterly FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!   i love the part where we see the predator throwing the alien in slow motion. i think some cool slow motion shots would actually benefit this movie, i didnt thikn it would before but i do think so now.  ive never been more ecited in my life about a movie- i pray you this, will go down as one of the greats of sci fi.  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat...............-real pred
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: DeaconRage on Jun 17, 2004, 02:17:55 AM
THE REAL PREDATOR ... wait until the movie comes out before u judge it man, we dont wanna get all hyped up and then shot down like alien resurrection *prays its a godly movie*
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Frosty on Jun 17, 2004, 02:30:28 AM
I agree, the one reason this film will work becasue it will please all.  I mean would all like to think that people would of seen the other movies, and appreciate the background knowledge and company (weyland) storylines to utterly love this film, and they will  On the flip side it will work perfectly on its own, and appeal to a wider audience, not just the fan as a single movie.  (but the fan will enjoy more me thinks)  I will now try to stop gettign info on it now, and wait to see the final product.  Frosty...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: jevjnd2000 on Jun 17, 2004, 02:36:04 AM
Special fx wise I don't see why people refer to the old movies, this is a modern $90 million flick.  This movie is going to be phenomenol visually, I wish that some wouldn't complain about it.  I for one couldn't be happier, and looking back on it PW was the right choice.  It's going to be nice come August, I hope that everyone here enjoys it, I know that I will.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Jun 17, 2004, 02:38:52 AM
Rusty Nails, I know many people that didn't know what it was. I first didn't notice it either, until I saw it. :)
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: frostedPred on Jun 17, 2004, 02:40:04 AM
  ;)    All looks good, but both scenes of jumping man and the predator - they look real bad.  They look more like they are being tugged through the air on wires.  I mean, in the predator shot, he is moving his arms and legs whilst in the air, and theres no sense of him building up momento and leaping across the gap.  despite those two scenes and some lame line delivery, all looks sweet! cant wait to see it
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 17, 2004, 02:41:36 AM
Hey hey guys. That was great. GREAT. Best trailer I have ever seen. When I saw it at the theater people were also blown away. This movie is going to make big bucks at the box office. It made it look like a very dark movie. Scary too. Fansof the alien & pred movies will be able to watch and enjoy this movie. The visual effects look great and the sound. They might get an Oscar for this one...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: the dark lord on Jun 17, 2004, 03:39:03 AM
so wait AvP glaxey isnt shut down
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SENTINEL on Jun 17, 2004, 03:55:59 AM
THIS MOVIE TO GOING TO BE INTENSE! i CAN SEE IT NOW!   ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: brianjrmav_24 on Jun 17, 2004, 04:13:56 AM
Wow, whoever just dared to criticize the scene where Scar is leaping the gap in the Chamber of the Gods is a loonie. Obviously you never saw the rough cut of that scene in Featurette 2, if you said that the rough scene was horribly obvious that wires were being used, then I would have agreed, but this scene was cleaned up so much with CG, and I love how he cloaks in midair and the camera pans and follows him until he lands. Also, how can you tell that Scar didn't get a running start. It was just a clip, I'm sure it shows him dodging the bullets, darting into a hallway then getting a running start to jump the gap. A quick question for anyone who might know this, is the ruby red vision you saw Celtic using some new form of IR vision? I mean, I dont really have a problem with it, it looks incredible, but I'd be kind of shocked if Paul didn't just go along with the traditional vision that had a blue background. Whoever said that this movie is also going to scare the heck of people, its an understatement. That was great how the one gunman scanned right past the Predator who was standing still, mistook him for a statue, then when he realizes something isn't quite right with that, he gets nailed with a spear. That'll make people jump!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 17, 2004, 04:24:36 AM
Hey yeah, c'mon whoever dissed how the Predator was flailing, which, dont be so dramatic and blow it way out of proportion, he wasn't flailing that much anyways, and besides, these are freaking teenage Yautja. You cant expect them to move completely perfectly and look all composed, they're rookies, this coming - of - age ritual brings out the best of the young ones, the ones who can't adapt are killed. Now, if I saw a Warrior Yautja leap a gap like that, I'd be a little upset, because the Warrior has survived so many hunts and can justly be labeled a veteran, they get to the point where they travel to foreign worlds and hunt alone they're so skilled. Its great, the Yautja you saw in Predator was a Warrior, that fella was no teenager. Also, did anyone happen to catch a glimpse of perhaps the Elder Predator in any of the trailers, it'd be neat to know what exactly his role is besides his obvious one which will include burning the clan mark into one of the teen Predators foreheads ( Blooding ) after he's killed an Alien and claimed its skull.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 17, 2004, 04:59:00 AM
Yes I agree with Cetanu. These arnt experienced Yautja. They are young and are most likly to not move correctly, will use cloaking alot more, and not be experienced. I guess only those that are fully educated in the AvP world can understand that.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Norfair86 on Jun 17, 2004, 05:15:43 AM
Do you guys think that the new vision mode is maybe an advancement over the one that the Pred used in Predator 2? (which took place in 1997) or more of... i don't know, i liked to think of it as maybe another kind of heat signature detection. Hard to tell. You know, kinda like a Ford to a Chevy - just anothe type... just trying to make sense of it all.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Barreth on Jun 17, 2004, 05:20:52 AM
It might have to do with the fact that they are young and inexperienced.. but I wouldnt say they would be cloaking more.. if anything, the trailer is an example of cloaking less.. Why would a pred stalk a group of humans with machine guns uncloaked.. if anything, I think it's an example of them under estimating their prey... hence... them being inexperienced...  and as far as the bridge/ chasm jumps are concerned... they look fine... they look awesome... so quit ur b*tching...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Z on Jun 17, 2004, 05:21:45 AM
Just i quick note the guy that see scar and fire is not the one that gets the spear, its Max Stafford (Played bye Tommy Flanagan).And if you look closely you see that just beafor he gets the spear he gest net,pretty sweet.  And in a nother shot in the trailer near the end you see a glimps of scar turning and hes holding a spear thats made out of a Alien tail, surley the spear that Lex is gona get leather.  Conserning the Predator leaping we dint see the hole sen, just some part of the sen, so we mite see him
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Z on Jun 17, 2004, 05:23:31 AM
Conserning the Predator leaping we dint see the hole sen, just some part of the sen, so we mite see him getting a srart run.   8)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 17, 2004, 05:27:54 AM
I guess that they would underestimate their prey. But once they get shot at and relized they mean buisness they would probably get pretty cloak happy. I would unless i was trying to prove something. If they are trying to prove something and all have individual personalities I dont think we should be going after them and trying to catch them.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Xersues on Jun 17, 2004, 05:42:08 AM
Do you honestly think those scenes are in the movie exactly the way they are on the trailer?   The ugly son of a ------ part is probably in there a different way. They don't put exactly what the movie has in trailers anymore. I bet you half that stuff was concept or taken out of the real movie. Trust me I'm sure we are all in for a good surprise    8)     :)     ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 17, 2004, 05:48:45 AM
actually Max Stafford is (Colin Salmon) and he gets netted, not speared, its just clever editing, and the guy who gets speared isnt tommy flanagan, tommy has dark hair while the guy who does sorta has light hair and it doesnt even look like him!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Uropygi on Jun 17, 2004, 05:50:39 AM
What movie was that score from? I've definantly heared it somewhere before! I wonder if it's from The Matrix: Revolutions?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: EvilAndy on Jun 17, 2004, 05:52:17 AM
That blonde women with the crazy hair with the accent and that scientist better die early in the movie, they appear to be Jar Jar Binks equivalants just from that single scene that's in all the trailers.  Not my cup of tea but oh well.  The predator jump looks bad too, I mean it looks like it's just being pulled along by a chord.  Thats not very convincing to see something just fly perfectly vertical to the other side.  Oh well, the movie's already got some downsides but I don't think it'll be all that bad overall.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 17, 2004, 06:00:30 AM
I'd like to add something on the whole notion that these young Yautja are cloaking less. With the vast amounts of knowledge the Predators should have obtained by hunting Aliens for so many hundreds of years, they should have figured out that an Alien doesn't stalk using eyesight, they utilize smell. They sense the distinct odor that a Yautja gives off and uses that to detect them, making cloaking quite useless, but against humans, it grants near perfect invisibility. Even though one might argue that the shimmering gives a Yautja away to an alert human, the cloaking suit only reacts this way because the imaging computers cant keep up with the rapid movements of a Yautja, but if he ever stopped moving and remained perfectly still, you would never spot him. How cool is that!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: EvilAndy on Jun 17, 2004, 06:00:39 AM
Oh the jumps have been "discussed" already, or defended rather.  the pred jump is the only one that strikes me as hard to grasp.  It needs a little more of an arch to it.  Oh well.  People can criticize if they want to, as well as defend.  I certainly don't see the need for people to call others looney or any other term just for criticizing.  Although, don't bother explaining your reasoning of the jump too me, I'll just see the movie eventually and get the full shot.  I'm pretty confident no one here has seen the movie in full to explain to me the scene in it's complexity.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 17, 2004, 06:03:41 AM
A couple of interesting things I have observed: 1. At around 0:54 in the trailer, lex and a fragment of the team are in shot. Look at around the centre of the screen and you will notice some glowing green. I think it is probably predator blood. It is possible that the gunfight one saw previously, injured the predator involved and lex and that part of the team are investigating where it went and possibly following the trail of blood. (predator 1 anyone?) 2. At around 1:08 of the trailer, there is a shot of part of the hive I presume. Look in the background and you can see a couple of humans effectively stuck on the wall and have either been 'facehugged' or are in fact waiting to be 'facehugged'.  3. At around 1:17 of the trailer, one can see the uncoiling alien tail and in the background is possibly the flashlight from a human investigating it. It is possible the alien is attracting the human's attention to later capture/kill him/her. (similar with the candles in Alien 3). 4. Not an observation, more like a very positive comment. Look at 1:28 of the trailer and you will see an alien to the right of the screen crawling down on an unsuspecting predator. (This reminds me of the AVP games as well as what the Alien does before greeting Breet with his teeth).  5. Notice at 1:39 in the trailer the Predator either pushing or hitting the human preety hard and him going flying. It seems like the same actor who was interview about his meeting and subsequent combat with the predator. This particular segment also links with the still of the predator seeming to 'calm down' the poor guy, although obviously it seems to be the after-effect of the hit. Also this links with the MTV video where the predator lands and stands right in front of this person, making him look like a dwarf. This segment also possibly links with 1:49 in the trailer where this character hits the predator with a log (remember predator) 1 with no effect, actually breaking the log on the predator's arm with the predator not even flinching! I love that shot! 6. At 1:43 in the movie when Lex attacks (likely to be a predator) with a spear the next shot of the (I believe its the Celtic, Please correct me if I am wrong) predator, is of it grabbing the spear or her and moving her out the way. Its as if he doesn't want to kill don't you think? 7. At 1:51 of the movie you see a predator's legs get taken from under him and he falls on his back and head rather stupidly. (it is likely to be Celtic predator judging by his mask, again please correct me if I am wrong) Anway look at his mask and you will see the 3 scratch masks on the mask which the predator sustained and can be seen at 1:25 in the trailer. I think it is possible that the predator possibly manages to fight off the alien but only for a short time. but the alien changes tactics and uses stealth to eliminate/incapacitate its pray. OR it could be another alien altogether. Who knows? 8. Look at 1:53 of the trailer and you will see the 'face-hugger matrix shot' as I like to call it.    :)   You will notice that shot is likely to be the 'sacrificial chamber' mentioned previously in trailer. If you look carefully in the background you may see a yellow object. It is possible that object is a jacket and it belongs to the scientist in glasses near the 1:00 mark. It seems to me like he is cowering in fear and is a great link to alien and aliens where many characters are scared of the face-huggers. If you look even closely there are a few more face-huggers and it seems like the security officer with the pistol (the blond-haired lady) will not be able to protect them from the face huggers. It is possible these two characters will be face-hugged.  Thats it on my comments and observations. Sorry if I have bored you! If I have repeated what anyone has said, my apoligies. Overall I love the trailer and am looking forward to the film.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: [ M E T R O I D 9 9 8 9 ] on Jun 17, 2004, 06:09:55 AM
CAN'T WAIT :D
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: EvilAndy on Jun 17, 2004, 06:11:04 AM
At 0:54 I thing that might be a glow stick, there appears to be a handle but it's not clear.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 17, 2004, 06:13:53 AM
Good eye EvilAndy. You are right, I can see the handle/s. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 17, 2004, 06:18:40 AM
... STOP YOUR B******* PPL. Cmon, seriously. We dont see the ole scene, we dont know what happened just before the pred jumps and your all there b******* it. I dont tolerate ppl that say its dumb before seeing the thing. Stop it plz. If in the movie its no better, then ok, but for now gave it a chance.   As for the different view thing, know what I think, the celtic have a diff. mask right? So what if every preds are customizing there own masks? Taught to that? He maybe use diff colors than the others. Maybe none have the same color for the same view.   As for the inexperience preds, I`m up with that, they are teenages, old teenages ready to go 1 step further to become real hunters but its there first alien hunt. so they maybe does some mistakes. I`m sure that at 1 point in the movie, 1 pred will get killed cuz of it.  So for now will gave it credit for the fact that we did not saw the movie. So stop complaining. Please
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 17, 2004, 06:19:03 AM
Damn thats alot of writing. How many times did u watch the trailer? Once again I have to take the side of Cetanu. These Yautja where not planning on running into these people. They where not cloaked because they dindt know better and where trying to figure out what the hell the humans are and what they where doing in their pyramid. In my opinion the Yautja was spotted, paniked, and killed a couple of people and bolted. They where expecting Alienss. Not Ommans that shot back.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Nidza on Jun 17, 2004, 06:19:16 AM
Eeer,I aint much updated,but I am also little confused, cause I didnt see that THIS FILM IS NOT YET RATED thingy at the end.  Errr is it rated? I know that these trailers are for all audiances,but whats with the movie?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: xenoforge on Jun 17, 2004, 06:19:45 AM
@The Outcast: Wow, thats very detailed.    ???    The opening sentence should read: "A couple of interesting things I have obsessed (about):"  ;)
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: EvilAndy on Jun 17, 2004, 06:28:44 AM
Hell Alien, chill out.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SENTINEL on Jun 17, 2004, 06:35:53 AM
ALIENS VRS PREDATOR is not a fairly tale story that you read to kids for bed time avp it a dark world of dealth,and KILLERS OF KILLERS FIGHTING each other to the dealth,this wILL BE RATED R. IT WILL Because if its not ,its not avp anymore,all of the predator and laien films out there are all R rated the fact that there talking abou the film being pg-13 or r already scares the SH__T out of  me,it shouldnt be a question if the film is pg-1 the predato MY GOD SKIN THERE VICTIMS ALIVE<RIP OUT THEE SKULL OR HEAD AND HANG THEM thats not a pg-13 scene for you kids,and the alien chest buster.....you know,i think you guy understand.   ???  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 17, 2004, 06:54:04 AM
@ evilandy, I`m chilled out. Why r u saying that? Cuz I dont want to see complains?, bah its part of the game. I`ll get use to it dont worry.  @ sentinel, you know what is the funniest in that if its pg13 or not. ya know, when a movie is rated R, in canada its rated 13, so if avp is rated 13, it will 8 and plus for me since I live in canada, lol. so I wish for a R
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 17, 2004, 07:01:40 AM
Hey Hell Alien, I hope your not aiming that frustration at me..lol, I was defending the movie and the scene, not being critical.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: uhhhhh on Jun 17, 2004, 07:09:41 AM
the part with the guy getting drilled by the pred and the part with the log are completely different.  if you look closely you can see that the punch takes place outside (snow swirling around), where as the log takes place inside the
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 17, 2004, 07:10:30 AM
GOOD NEWS i was watching the scene with (tommy flanagan saying) you ugly sonuva and if u look correctly we see him mouth you ugly and then it cuts and we dont see him start saying sonuva and it quickly cuts back to him saying the end of uva but if you do it multiple times you see his lips dont synch up to sonuva! i have a feeling its just making the trailer pg-13 and it will indeed be mother f**ker! i doubt anderson would change such a classic and loved tagline like that!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: uhhhhh on Jun 17, 2004, 07:10:55 AM
and the pred's red vision i think is perfect because its just a dull red glow with no real bright spots.  this is right because the people are going to be wearing fulling insulating clothing to keep warm and not let that much heat escape
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 17, 2004, 07:13:21 AM
I would disagree. From my perspective both scenes take outside and are linked because of the swirling snow. If you look in the background in both scenes you can see a few human characters hanging upside, and are presumably going ot be skined. Thus the two segments are linked in my opinion. Wow a short post!    ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 17, 2004, 07:26:45 AM
One last obersation I have discovered is that Max Stafford was hit by the net at around 0:43 of the trailer and you can see him still in the net at 1:40 behind and to the left of Lance Henrikson (spelling?)
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 17, 2004, 07:28:13 AM
This is just a thought but , everyone is talking about the spear with the alien tail on it, now if you go to the avp site d load the wallpaper of the 2 preds faceing eachother with spears in there hands to me anyways, it dosnt look like an alien tail on the spear but tyhe blade itself is just shaped in that daggerish type shap and not a tail.But man this trailer is unbelievable, and I dont see anything wrong at all except that unconvincing acting by the guy that says ' you ugly son ofa ....' that was pretty cheesy.But everything else was amazing,I cant wait for tis movie.August is to far, but i feel sorry for the lot of you guys who have to wait until november october or whenever it comes out were you guys live.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 17, 2004, 07:28:31 AM
Hey, if anyone saw the latest Trailer with The Chronicles of Riddick, did it finally confirm what the rating was, or did it just stick with once again "This Film is Not Yet Rated"? If anyone here has any solid evidence of a rating for this movie, please let everyone here in the forums know! Thanks!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 17, 2004, 07:29:20 AM
lso Drakness any word from anyone thats gonna save this site or are you still waiting to hear from gamespy or who ever?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 17, 2004, 07:32:40 AM
cetanus, no no no, I`m not aiming this at anyone but I hate not to give someone or something a chance to proove itself. And alot o guys here are already saying that the scene will suck without even seeing it. Its only that. But like I said, I`ll get used to it.  as for the lips and words thing, Hudson, your right. you can see that its not coordinated. Good eye, its interesting, it was sure that they would not alowed that to be in the traila but its giving some hope there. Of an R rating
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 17, 2004, 07:37:23 AM
and cetanu, when I`v watched the riddick traila, they were still saying not yet rated. So, dunno when they will say it but its getting long to wait now.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: what on Jun 17, 2004, 07:45:27 AM
a pred has to live. cmon one must live at the end. no humans thy should die pred cmon live your ment to be the best f**kin hunters and on each film u die PRED CMON WHAT U DOIN
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ? on Jun 17, 2004, 07:50:48 AM
why did the humans even need to bring guns. thy where just checkin the place out thy didnt no aliens and preds where gonna be there
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 17, 2004, 07:51:53 AM
Thanks Hell Alien, i was just playing it over and over again to see if it was my eyes or if it actually was not coordinated! sooo i believe its just clever editing and it will indeed be mother f**ker!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: DeaconRage on Jun 17, 2004, 08:06:56 AM
brianjrmav_24  the wires are still there from the leaping predator. look above him on the top. theres 2 things i dont like about the movie so far. is the pred jumping, cuz i have to agree, its to much rope like jump instead of a normal leap  and the part with the nuclear explosion, it goes from a blue glow to a huge explosion, it looks like it skiped a sequience or something. watch it, youll know what i mean  but overall i think its amazing
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: inkedspawn on Jun 17, 2004, 08:10:53 AM
i got a question. we all know aliens need hosts, so when we have the shot of loads of aliens running at the predators b4 they nuke them all. just how many ppl did get sacrificed if this is ment to be set inside a pyramid !!!!!or is it that the broke out it?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 17, 2004, 08:20:19 AM
You read my mind buddy. I have not a damn clue. Where the hell do all the aliens come from? My only guess is that they are in stasis. As for ? your answer is that the humans brought guns because you dont go exploring some pyramid in the middle of noware with out a little fire power and because its Hollywood. As on my opinion on the rating all you people that think it will be PG-13 or what ever your rating system is is just stupid.  What kind of director would aim to make a PG-13 AVP movie? I meen you would have to realy try hard to get it PG-13 because a movie of this caliber could so easly be rated R.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Best of All! on Jun 17, 2004, 08:27:26 AM
I have the best question of all guys.  And I know not one person has thought of it.  O.k., you have a pyramid 2000 ft below the ice.  People are inside the pyramid which is 2000 ft below the ice.  And on top of that, it seems to be night time during most of the trailor.  So someone please tell me where the gad damn light source is coming from inside the pyramid????  You all know it would be pitch black in there.  Also, wouldn't the people being sent to the pyramid think its kinda fishy that some of the dudes are bringing guns with them?  All I know is if I'm going on a trip to investigate history, I'm gonna ask some questions as to why people would need friggin guns!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 17, 2004, 08:28:48 AM
im getting sick of hearing about pg13 .. nice trailer by the way... oh and yes those preds on top of the pyramid was from the past if u see fet 1 one video off the site u will know... they saying it could be antlantis and thats how it dissapeird off the face of the earth .. as for guns most security officers have guns now??? so there u go..of mybee charlse wayland know some thing he wasnt tellin as it was wayland company after all....at the end of the day its got aliens and predators in it thats all that matters   ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 17, 2004, 08:32:35 AM
light source will bounce off the building cus of the ice from there light sourse and some seens do look dark allso bybee they bought there own light source after all they do make robots in it lol god man use ya head robots from light wich is harder to do????
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 17, 2004, 08:33:17 AM
bybee= maybe
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: watcher on Jun 17, 2004, 08:35:15 AM
treiler was great! I noticed 1 thing I mised before. the alien has four fingers insted of six. I dont realy care about fingers, but still, six looked much cooler to me (remember the scene from aliens, when alien grabs the pilots face) that hand looked way cooler to me then the present one. again I care less about design but it was the biggest change in aliens ever made.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Best of All! on Jun 17, 2004, 08:35:35 AM
  ???  =What the hell did you just write?  I'm lost.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 17, 2004, 08:40:57 AM
look at the trailer again mate u can see where there light soures are comin from
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 17, 2004, 08:43:32 AM
Is it me, or does the face-hugger emerging from the egg resemble the black (but not webbed-fingered) "super face-hugger" originally planned for A3... ?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 17, 2004, 08:46:52 AM
its you .. lol jk
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 17, 2004, 08:53:31 AM
Hmpf!  Comedian!   ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AngryHobo on Jun 17, 2004, 09:00:02 AM
Maybe way too many eggs were created or a lot of facehuggers escaped the pyramid and impregnated the majority of the civilization, resulting in way too many aliens for the three Preds to handle. Or maybe a good deal of humans are taken by drones, and facehugged like the exploration crew in the movie, causing a great surge in the xenomorph population before the Preds arrival. Although I doubt that the reason for the massive amount of Aliens is important or explained in the movie. Something just went wrong for the Preds...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 17, 2004, 09:04:55 AM
its an explanation as to why it sunder the ice! no human interference! thats why the alien problem got out of control!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 17, 2004, 09:17:23 AM
Well, I think that all of civilization got taken out by the aliens, its almost the only explaination. or the aliens were growing in numbers for a long time and when they taught( queen) they were strong enough, they got out to conquer or impregnate the entire world. would haved maybe work if the preds were not able to go boom. And what a boom. And ya know what, I think that, the pred with the t mark on the helmet is royal blood, that celtic could be his big bro, and fish face would be the first dying,
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: CoNTRoL on Jun 17, 2004, 09:19:10 AM
are cookies and I the only ones who thought this trailer was terrible?  that stooge of an actor "you're one ugly..sonofa.." that was awful. to be honest i never like the "your one ugly.." line. even from arnold. i prefer the line when arnold is standing over the defeated predator and says " what the hell are you?" it just seems like the appropriate response to seeing a predator is "WTF" or "WTH" not to start calling it names to its face i.e." you're one ugly..." but whether you liked that line or not you must agree that the guy in the trailer completely butchered the delivery!!    and this heroine i already can't stand her. i think she is gonna be the heroine by default, whereas she just survives. if she fights a predator and wins i'll be pissed.  the CG sucks. did you see those swarms of aliens climbing towards the doomed predators? that was so fake   can't you people decipher bad CG from good CG? obviously you cant if you thought that was great. i think being a fan of AvP has inhibited your vision.  the sets look so phony too. ARG the MTV preview which i saw online was better than this trailer.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 17, 2004, 09:27:01 AM
Hey guys, I actually noticed something rather interesting about the Yautja. Back on the homeworld, its been said that particular Yautja once they survive their coming - of - age hunt against the Aliens begin training to hunt in three different environments so they'll be ready for their solo hunts as a Blooded Warrior. Those three environments include urban, forest, and of course there are strictly Alien hunters. If you seem to notice, in 'Predator', that Warrior Yautja has xerbinium armor that seems to be colored green, matching his forest hunting ground. In Predator 2, when that Youngblood Yautja was hunting in the urban city, his armor was almost bronze in color, and finally, here in AvP, the Alien hunters have armor that is silver colored, maybe to help them blend in and match the dark black of their hunting ground inside the Hive. Wouldn't that be cool if they actually construct their armor to match their environment. Just goes to show you that the Yautja aren't just brute strength, they're an ingenius warrior/hunter race. I firmly believe that if there wasn't a plot involved that made this movie fair for both Aliens and Predators to please the fans, I think in an unrestricted brawl, an Alien wouldn't stand a chance against a Yautja, whether he's a Drone ( Smooth Skull ), Warrior ( Rigid Skull "From Aliens" ), or a Praetorian. As for the Queen, now that's a whole other ball game! For that to be fair at all for the Yautja, better send in a Female one to take care of that business.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: newbornsux89 on Jun 17, 2004, 09:49:55 AM
Notice in the trailer how someone says " This whole thing was a trap" and " They're using us as bait." I don't think the predators coming for the hunt at the exact same time as the humans investigate it is coincidence.  I think the predators were counting on humans investigating the pyramid so they could use them as bait to lure Aliens.  Maybe the reason nobody ever discovered it before was because every time a ritual is to begin, the predators activate something in the pyramid to cause the "sudden heat bloom".  Then humans would come and investigate, thus creating Aliens, and the predators would hunt the aliens.  Every other team that ever investigated it before these people died and never returned, until now.  That's just my theory.  I could be wrong.  I'm just taking a wild guess.   ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 17, 2004, 09:54:06 AM
Cetanu,On what r u basing yourself? as for the alien dont stand a chance, not that I want to start this thing all over again but what make you say that?  And where do you get your info as of the back on the homeworld thing. from a site, a comic?   And as for the 1 pred movie goes, I dont think that the armor had a greenish taint, in fact it was pretty silver to me. I might be wrong but when the pred was fighting arnold, his armor was not green at all. As for the bronze color in P2, I`ll have to ask why bronze when it could have been silver as well. I dont have the answer. And finally, I`m far from thinking that pred are just brute force aliens. They are very very intelligent, but they are overconfident and seems to underestimate their preys. thats why to me they seem so brute force, less intelligent in the movies. they think they are the best and that cost them. 1 if not 2 in avp will act like so and being killed cuz of it. I`m sure about that. Its their main weakness.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: predator 5 killo on Jun 17, 2004, 10:02:29 AM
Something interesting: In the pyramid fight the plasma shots are red. But when we saw it fire during the last trailer, it was a blue burst.  Maybe blue is more advanced plasma that the preds develope later on in the 21st century?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Vito on Jun 17, 2004, 10:20:54 AM
ppl wonder why do they bring weapons?  In the 3rd featurette Weyland says "one of my satelites discovered a sudden heatbloom", ok if you got a signal from some unknown source, and you go investigate it, would you do it unarmed? These 4 - 5 security guys are probably mainly hired to protect the multi-billionear buisness man Charles Weyland. You really think that he would travel to Antartica, and go 2000 ft under the ice, to reach a unknown signal (or whatever), unprotected? Even though Weyland says that he's experts claim its a pyramid, they still don't know what caused the heatbloom. Or do they.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: WonderBrick on Jun 17, 2004, 10:26:20 AM
I liked the "You're one ugly..." part.  The emotion was nice to see from otherwise non-Lex humans.  Hopefully it will be "motherf**ker" and not "son of a bitch".    The whole Lance Hendrickson "heat bloom" part, as well as the sacrificial chamber acting, made me cringe.  The pryamid explosion seems to have gotten a bit big, but that is nitpicking.  I am very happy with the whole trailer, especially alot of the sounds, like the ship flying overhead.  Aliens was a war and AVP is a war.  the best part of it all is the mythology included in AVP and the hints/clues we see, like the infared vision showing who is... *cough*.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: brianjrmav_24 on Jun 17, 2004, 10:42:25 AM
I know why the explosion in the past that wipes out all those thousands of aliens is so abnormally big. There were three Predators, as things worsen one of the three gets impaled by an Alien tail, so there's no way he'll be activating his self - destruct, but the remaining two activate their self destruct and continue to fight until the timer expires, with the combined power of both of their PDC's ( Power Distribution Centers ) which is a miniature fusion reactor, the explosion blast radius must be unfathonable!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 17, 2004, 10:42:35 AM
Hell Alien I know where Cetanu got his info. The same place I did. I read the books of AvP before it was a movie. It told part of the story from the predators or Yautja. It was quite good actually. Like I said before they brought guns because a rich guy with a cause. U dont go around the wolrd to look at unknown "heat signatures" with out guns. As for why there is light in the pyramid is a good question which I have no answer. My guess is the  Yautja put in  lights or something.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Jun 17, 2004, 10:43:38 AM
@Control- are you a nut?- the CGI is fantastic and the dialogue is not supposed to be oscar winning in any of the Alien or Predator movies, its supposed to be corny and cooncise- thats what, ina way is so good about it.  people. dont be giving out about the acting- its not supposed to be oscar winning, its believable and thats all we want- this movie belongs to the aliens and predators, not the humans.  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat...................-real pred
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: CoNTRoL on Jun 17, 2004, 10:51:38 AM
so im supposed to enjoy crap? you suckers would give your money to any shit movie. the CGI sucks. get over it.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 17, 2004, 10:51:48 AM
I wasnt saying that they wheer trying to win oscars. Im just saying its got oscar quality sound and effects. I respect your thoughts on how the movie belongs to the aliens & preds. I have always wondered Real Predator what the hell do u put at the bottem of your posts. What does it mean.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 17, 2004, 10:53:44 AM
CoNTRoL what is your problem. Its good. Better than that Day After Tomarrow shit. The CGI is great back me up guys.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 17, 2004, 11:02:42 AM
I've got your back Variable, as well as every other AvP fanatic. As for you Control, you smart alic punk, listen up! You are in no position to be critical of any movie, you're not a director, if you think this movie is terrible why bother posting anything on the forum, this website is obviously for fans, well, I like to think the majority of people here are fans. Listen, if you hate it so much I want to see you start getting to work on an AvP film of your own and lets see how that goes, if at all to coming marginally close to the bar Paul Anderson has set with this film! Just wait for the movie, and until then, this is just my opinion I'd appreciate it if you never posted here again, shut your mouth. Dont you dare be so foolish as to argue with me either, I dont need to be sending you away from here crying.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 17, 2004, 11:38:46 AM
Variable, well I dont doubt that the book was damn good. I`m sure it was. But these like comics are no good sources. I could write a book and say in it that the aliens blood is melting the pred armor and weapons. Or say that the aliens actually have eyes that are under the dome. Or I could even say that the preds are living in big city like New York. Got my point? You can write anything in a book, anything that your imagination can produce. Thats why I dont refere to them. The guy that wrote it maybe prefered the preds or the aliens writting things on each other that are just taughts or ideas that he was thinking they were cool and got them in the book. Like you can see in the comics that the guy was or more pred or more alien. Like a pred could kill 10 aliens at the same time with his spear. I got that in the first avp comics. Or was it WAR? Anyway, follow my point? I`m only trying to say that the films are facts and the others are taughts and ideas. Anyway you can say that I`m wrong about this. Its ok. I`m not trying to start any fight here but to try to convince you that books and comics are not good sources.   As for you control, see the movie on august 13, think to points that you want to post here and stop saying  ******** about the movie. calling me sucker is one thing, calling all of us suckers is another. Your starting a fight against too many foes at a time. See the thing then ******** about it. For now your in no position to say anything since you did not saw the damn thing.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Galmorzu on Jun 17, 2004, 12:17:11 PM
Look at this, if Weyland is literally the richest man on the planet then of course he's going to have heavily armed guards with him if he goes out somewhere.  If someone managed to kidnap him they could hold him ransom for HUGE sums of money.  And they would prolly be able to get whatever they ask for, too.  That's why he's so heavily protected.  Not because of something in the pyrmaid (though it turns out that's what they DO need the guns for), but for whoever might try and get to them on the way there.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: e-uso on Jun 17, 2004, 12:17:56 PM
I am still in shock this movie has been made.  Paul Anderson is a genuis!!  The whole plot makes sense, the Predators and Aliens look awsome!!  Personally I hope each Predator has a different mask and different style of weapons.  I think it would be sweet if we get to the the Queen fight against the Predators.  It would awsome if in this movie has everything invovling both Alien and Predator in it.  This movie will be the best movie of the summer.  Personally I hope they just keep making more AVP movies then a single Alien and/or Predator movie.  Just because its been a while since Predator came out and Alien 4 was absolutly terrible.  So hopefully there will be more ALIEN V PREDATOR films in the future.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Boobies Hurt on Jun 17, 2004, 12:20:43 PM
This movie to Alien and Aliens will be just like T3 was to T1 and T2.  Pretty darn good, but not as good as the first two.  Does anyone else get this vibe?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Valkyrion on Jun 17, 2004, 12:21:02 PM
Movie looks great. I mean........great. Period. And control to answer your question. No. Why would you go see a movie if you think it is crap? Also how can you judge a movie from 6 official trailers that havent even shown an inch of the awesome footage were gonna see in this movie? So....."get over it".
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Valkyrion on Jun 17, 2004, 12:29:35 PM
Movie looks great. I mean........great. Period. And control to answer your question. No. Why would you go see a movie if you think it is crap? Also how can you judge a movie from 6 official trailers that havent even shown an inch of the awesome footage were gonna see in this movie? So....."get over it".
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 17, 2004, 12:34:32 PM
This is to 'e-uso', my apologies if you'd preferred not to be singled out, but you seemed real eager to know if the Predators do indeed face a Queen, and the fact is that they do, two of them challenge her face to face in a tight hallway when's she's in a rage after having just been chained up for hundreds of years. Just imagine how that's going to turn out    :-\  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SmallzFSU on Jun 17, 2004, 12:44:05 PM
Loved the trailer, hated control.  whats wrong buddy, is your pussy leaking?  Heres a question, anybody know why they decided to change the release date back to August from November?  Real excited about this one, i hope the Aliens win it, if a human comes out on top Ill puke.  and I tend to agree with Hell Alien about comics and books being no good for facts.  Ive read things in books sometimes and been like "where the heck did they get that idea from"  but its nice to speculate anway.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 17, 2004, 12:47:27 PM
CONTROL u a f**king fag.. if u dont like the f**king thing be out bitch we havent call ur ass in here to beging with and u talking about the CGI  thta it suckes mathaf**ka have u seen the movie yet  NO so  stop talking shit ...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 17, 2004, 12:48:44 PM
Cetanu, how are you so sure about this. I think too that they will face up and that the queen is gonna repaint the walls so that you dont need flashlight in the temple anymore. But your talking like you KNOW it. Or is it just a supposition from your part?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 17, 2004, 12:53:37 PM
To smallzfsu, your right its always fun to speculate.   ;D     Thats why books and comics were made, to have fun. but for me, its not goin further than that
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 17, 2004, 01:00:37 PM
Hmmm, I'm fairly sure I have concrete evidence if the movie in any way goes along with the conceptual art. In one of the sketches, you see two Predators standing shoulder to shoulder, the view is from behind so you can see their dreadlocks, and the eerie outline of the mammoth Queen can be seen racing towards them. If you want to see what I'm talking about, go under 'News Archive' here on the site, there's a post once upon a time before all this trailer stuff that showed a lot of conceptual art.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Shadow of FUS on Jun 17, 2004, 01:08:13 PM
Watched the trailer a thousand times and I never seem to gettired of it.Is it me or do you get the vibe of Stargate the movie when it quickens pace inside the pyramid? Another thing....when the predator whips the spear at the guy is that scene spliced because how does the net come out of the spear suddenly.I cant help but think this part is fake because notice how it doesnt wrap around him just push him back? Also,wouldnt that spear go through his leg or something....?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Valkyrion on Jun 17, 2004, 01:11:39 PM
Movie looks great. I mean........great. Period. And control to answer your question. No. Why would you go see a movie if you think it is crap? Also how can you judge a movie from 6 official trailers that havent even shown an inch of the awesome footage were gonna see in this movie? So....."get over it".
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alex V on Jun 17, 2004, 01:31:22 PM
I liked the "You're one ugly..." part. The emotion was nice to see from otherwise non-Lex humans. Hopefully it will be "motherf**ker" and not "son of a bitch".              Amen to that
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: MERC on Jun 17, 2004, 01:32:54 PM
we want AvP
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: uhhhhh on Jun 17, 2004, 01:35:40 PM
youre right about them both being outside, i missed that, good call.  CGI looks awesome man, i just saw Day After Tomorow and hour ago and the CGI looks as good at least.  and this type of cgi is def, harder to pull off because its creating something we have a pre-disposition not to beleive.  It already seems fake to us and it looks pretty real, i consider that a damn fine job
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 17, 2004, 01:36:12 PM
all im REALLY consern now iz about the damn rating.....
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alex V on Jun 17, 2004, 01:36:28 PM
the helecopter that is following the boat probably knows about the predator because do you remember in Predator 2 at the end " we came so close haragen" and Hatagen repleys "youll get another changes" I think there is a link from the guys from predator 2 in AvP
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: E-USO on Jun 17, 2004, 01:38:35 PM
It's okay to single me out.  I just think it would be cool to see the Queen get loose like in ALIENS.  Because when the Queen was loose in ALIENS really scared me.  One thing i am happy about is that there is more than one PREDATOR in this movie, i've wanted to see that for the longest time.  Of course one PREDATOR for this movie would be dumb.  I can't wait to see the PREDATOR visions in the film.  One thing people ask me is who do you think is going to win?  It's not King Kong v Godzilla it's who is going to survive than win.  One thing is i hope the movie is 2 1/2 hours at least.  This movie is going to be awsome!!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: uhhhhh on Jun 17, 2004, 01:40:51 PM
man...2 hours plus of predator action....thatd be so f**kin awesome...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alex v on Jun 17, 2004, 01:45:32 PM
i just want to see alot of blood and chest bursting i wanted AvP to go for a rated R rating
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 17, 2004, 01:47:28 PM
I dunno but if u go to www.countingdown.com they have it as rated R i think iz billshit but i dunno y they have it lwith that rating .. they used to have as not rated but like i said it might be bullshit....
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alien 3 on Jun 17, 2004, 01:51:46 PM
1992 kenner AvP action figures do you remmeber these toys i still have all of them  http://www.angeltowns.com/members/avpworld/avpfigures.html
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: BATMAN on Jun 17, 2004, 01:53:34 PM
off subject but must read   As filming continues on Chris Nolan's BATMAN BEGINS, one of our most reliable and trusted sources contacted us to say that Batman's movie studio is working on getting a teaser trailer out as soon as possible for the film. The source, who works in the industry, tells us that Warners is trying hard to get the first trailer for BATMAN BEGINS out for the opening of SPIDER-MAN 2, June 30. If the trailer isn't complete by that time, the studio has struck a deal to place the BATMAN trailer with 20th Centiry Fox's I, ROBOT opening July 16. The trailer will definitely be featured with the company's other superhero movie project out on July 30, namely CATWOMAN.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Predgirl on Jun 17, 2004, 02:08:09 PM
All I can again is awseome awesome awesome.  This is my second time seing the trailer from the moives on my computer.  OH YEAH can't wait for the movie I'm counting the days hehehe.   ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: FJ on Jun 17, 2004, 02:21:06 PM
i reckon theres only going to be 3 teenage preds than was supposedly 5. From the featurettes and trailers i've seen. 3 looks more realistic. Though this is just my opinion
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SENTINEL on Jun 17, 2004, 03:02:06 PM
THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD I JUST HOPE THAT THE SAME ENERGY WE FELT AND SAW IN THE TRAILER IS THE SAME IN THE FILM BUT BETTER! cant fuc--ing wait man YES!!!!! IT IS ON    :)     ;D     ;)     ???     :D     ???     8)     >:D     :)     :-\  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: avpmaster132004 on Jun 17, 2004, 03:14:10 PM
I am so F***ing amped for this movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D     ???     >:D     :)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alex v on Jun 17, 2004, 03:37:05 PM
maybe i took this avp concept to classic like well im ready to see something diffrent its a big step for me since i grew up with all the Alien movies and the Predator movies its time to see something new but still if only paul anderson would have hired stan winston damn oh well maybe for the second Avp and i hope that one takes place in the bloody future. (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: MERC on Jun 17, 2004, 03:38:25 PM
I give an amen and a Orrrrraaaaaaaa!!!!!! to that buddy
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ATAX on Jun 17, 2004, 03:39:32 PM
Batman will be a good movie but alien vs predaotr will be better
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ATAX on Jun 17, 2004, 03:42:08 PM
the Panther Alien always reminded me of the dog alien from Alien 3 for some reason    ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Gorilla alien on Jun 17, 2004, 03:51:55 PM
hey thats Gorilla Alien is my sister lol   :D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: CoNTRoL on Jun 17, 2004, 04:18:06 PM
you people cant handle anyone who has a different opinion as you geez lol.  the effex shot i didnt like was the aliens climbing the pyramid. the aliens look fake.  and why do we need corny lines in this movies, can't anyone be clever anymore? just cuz its not oscar worthy doesnt mean it cant be fun and have wit.  the humans as bait is cool, and i love when the predator cloaks in midair while being shot at. but the slowmotion shit is boring as hell, why cant anyone do anything interesting.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: rock steady on Jun 17, 2004, 04:40:05 PM
we want a masterpiece from avp and paul anderson looks like he failed that
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Maurice \"HopeOfTheFuture\" Huijs on Jun 17, 2004, 05:01:26 PM
TheOutcast: \"4. Not an observation, more like a very positive comment. Look at 1:28 of the trailer and you will see an alien to the right of the screen crawling down on an unsuspecting predator.\"  I think the Predator knows the Alien is behind him, because shot 01:47 shows the same predator throwing the alien. I think the Predator is just acting like he suspects nothing, but as the Alien leaps, the predator catches him and throws him away.   inkedspawn: \"i got a question. we all know aliens need hosts, so when we have the shot of loads of aliens running at the predators b4 they nuke them all. just how many ppl did get sacrificed if this is ment to be set inside a pyramid !!!!!or is it that the broke out it?\" - for the the flashback, I think a lot of the villagers were facehugged and maby their cattle. I believe those old civilizations have a lot of animals so they can live. Maybe those animals have been facehugged too. - for the present, look at this pic: Just a thought...   :)  [Link Removed by Darkness][Reason: The link was too long which messed up the page layout]
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Jun 17, 2004, 05:04:03 PM
CoNTRoL: "the effex shot i didnt like was the aliens climbing the pyramid. the aliens look fake"  I agree, I posted this already in the topic about the previous trailer, but I think the Alien are too organized in that shot, meaning the patterns/patrons. They climb the pyramid in almost lined up style. I don't know how to describe it in English exactly.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Joe on Jun 17, 2004, 05:31:41 PM
I like when the predator bitch slaps the alien
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Rusty Nails on Jun 17, 2004, 05:40:09 PM
Bitchslapped? Lol! "You broke my nail!!" *SLAP*  The pyramid scene is awesome, doesn't look fake to me.  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 17, 2004, 07:34:05 PM
Looked fake? are you talking about the MTV trialer or the final one? if the final one, please proceed to your neerest eye doctor immediatley. This film will be a masterpiece, you will see, a LANDMARK IN SCIENCE FICTION!!! cheezy lines, I hate to break it to ya man, but all of the alien and pred movies have cheezy lines, its nothing new, you will worship this film once you see how it will ressurect the franchises!!! ALIEN AND PREDATOR WILL LIVE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHH HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ATAX on Jun 17, 2004, 08:11:09 PM
AdamJZ i hope you a right man
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: -=[Daishi]=- on Jun 17, 2004, 08:15:39 PM
conserning the thousands of aliens, some other guy said it already. In some trailer anderson said: the explanation why civiliasations disappeared, seeing the many aliens, its obvious the ' ritual ' just got out of hand and the aliens impregnated the entire city/civilisation,whatever, causing it to be so many of them. For the rest of all the speculation, see the movie, talk later.. This conversation could go on and on..Just wait
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: "meat wod AKA meat ball" on Jun 17, 2004, 08:22:18 PM
yo wa dup g AvP is goin to be vedy good do the A do da P AvP fu word life the hizy did i do good milk shake
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: MERC on Jun 17, 2004, 08:27:52 PM
  ???   what if some of the aliens escape from the city/civilisation and ran in to mexico and america woudn't earth be doomed i mean not all the Aliens would run up the pyramid they would try to escape or run off and i dont think all them aliens a human originated there are jaguars panthers and wild boars in south america there could be other alien hybrids
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AQUA TEAM HUNGER FORCE on Jun 17, 2004, 08:31:00 PM
You did very good "meat wad" AvP does rock all the way
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: THE MAN on Jun 17, 2004, 08:39:29 PM
Damn look at the predator costume when hes throwing the Alien it looks so fake and so buldgy THEY SHOUL DHAVE HIRES STAN WINSTON DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Mike on Jun 17, 2004, 08:54:01 PM
well stan winston is a very good creature creator i mean he did creat the predator and the Alien queen paul was being a doosh when he didn't let stan the man in by the way stan winston offered to help out in avp but paul refused what a damn idiot
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Mac on Jun 17, 2004, 08:55:42 PM
thats just f**king great why didn't paul just let him in damn you paul heres a lesson always go for the best
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Jun 17, 2004, 09:14:48 PM
@VARIABLE- alrite man, sorry i didnt mean to come across like i was having a pop at you- in factt o be honest i was just saying that acting is never gona win oscars, its not supposed to- it was just coincidental that you were talking about oscars- but my comment was in no way related to you anyway!!!! lol- ya know your the first person to ask me that and basically its my philosophy on life  "Forte Fortuna Adjuvat" is latin for: "Fortune Favours the Brave"  this movie, i really hope is going to be great- i mean it looks completely different to the stuff i saw- with the CGI it all just looks amazing.   thanks buti do believe that this movie will truely become the Alien And Predator as it progresses- i mean Anderson has undercut both species excellently by giving them both a lead character. i bet that the audience, after the movie gets into it, are going to be sitting there, waiting to see the acid grid alien and the celtic pred duke it out- and then theres going to be some in the audience who want the pred to win and therell be others wholl want the alien to win- its going to be great- than theres the main predator, the scar predator- the audience are actually going to be able to empathize with him come the end, i guarantee it!!!!! its going to be a classic and if it is a let down, than heads will roll, but by the looks of things this movie is REALLY shaping up.  well VARIABLE my friend i must go. take care and write back so we can chat.  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat..............-real pred
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: CoNTRoL on Jun 17, 2004, 09:36:20 PM
say what you want im still right kids.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: <><> on Jun 17, 2004, 09:48:45 PM
why would wayland go down to the pyramid himself he must no somthin is up
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 17, 2004, 11:19:49 PM
F**k man hes dying of Cancer and he wants to be remembered for something GREAT! not just robotics! read up man READ UP!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: marco italy on Jun 17, 2004, 11:41:24 PM
Hey...one thing:  in theatrical trailer, at 01:45, we see the queen embedded in a sort of mechanism that keep it under control, descending by upside...in the shot at 01:58, we see again the queen cover by some sort of ice, in the same mechanism that we see be4..really slow movment...can anyone confirm me that the queen is in some sort of stasis and the arrive of the umans and\or the predator interrupt that stasis? It is correct?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Barreth on Jun 18, 2004, 12:08:43 AM
I'm not sure where you see ice.. I dont have a timer on my viewer... so I'm not sure what scene ur referring too... but I'm assuming you mean the scene where it's an upclose shot of her face and it looks like she's covered in something... I thought it was slime... and the stuff falling down was dust... possibly from the chains being ripped out of the ceiling from her trying to escape...  could be wrong..
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Shadow of FUS on Jun 18, 2004, 12:14:29 AM
f**k you Control.YOu havnt proved anything but shown your a whiny little shit.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 18, 2004, 12:21:00 AM
Marco italy you are indeed right, it is ice melting off of the queen taking her out of stasis!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Nik on Jun 18, 2004, 12:34:09 AM
Regicidal_Maniac  from what i heard Sigourney will be in alien 5 and its most lickly on earth . and predator 3 theirs more then 1 pred.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: The__Jerk on Jun 18, 2004, 01:00:27 AM
I want to know in the clip where you see Weyland turning his head...what is it that is captured in the net...I've been staring at the screen for 20 mins till my eyes bled from squinting and it looks like someone is facehugged cuz the head area is very brownish rugged like, so maybe one of you Movie Guys can expand on it.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: marco italy on Jun 18, 2004, 01:04:14 AM
to Pvt Hudson: i think that the queen get out of stasis before the humans arrive at the piramid, and the heatbloom that charles weyland referred of in featurette 3 is the pyramid that "wake up" ( so the queen..) before the predator come..it's only my opinion, but i think it made sense...correct me if I'm wrong!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 18, 2004, 01:11:51 AM
It is a guy in the net. The same guy who spots the moving predator on the wall.   However, i think this scene is a bit coy, cos i don't think it wud show someone being impaled by a spear in the trailer. I reckon they cut it to the netgun at the last minute. I hope this is true cos the original netgun is cool. A shame the throwing disc isn't in this film. The shirukens are cool, but they cud have put the disc in aswell, slicing off an alien's head.  Also, any ideas on the running time yet? The novelisation book is 288 pages if that helps, standard size paperback.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: marco italy on Jun 18, 2004, 01:12:41 AM
to The_Jerk: If U refer to the shot at 01:40 i'm agree with U..this guy it's on the throne that U see in a conceptual art in the AVP site..in gallery section
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 18, 2004, 01:13:38 AM
I think I read that the humans unintentionally set the Queen's / aliens' release events into motion.  The trailer looks great, but I've a feeling the film's general dialogue'll be poor.  Despite this and the fact that I'd prefer Alien to be the only way of discovering the aliens (far out in space, in a century-old Space Jockey vessel), I don't see how people can complain with what we've seen.  I'm not much of a Predator fan, or an aliens-on-earth admirer; but this movie just looks like great entertainment with a decent script and great visuals.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 18, 2004, 01:15:44 AM
marco italy.   It is the humans who awaken the queen, when Verheiden picks up the predator weapons from the sarcophagus {the pit wid the red spikes in the trailer}. This also brings the eggs out of stasis, trapping adele and miller in the sacrificial room.  When the preds arrive in the pyramid after wiping out the surface team they are a bit pissed off and alarmed that the alien birthing process has already begun.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 18, 2004, 01:17:07 AM
Regarding the film's rating, I think it's safe to assume it'll be a "12A" / "15" (I'm unfamiliar with the American MPAA (?) rating system).  HOPEFULLY it won't be the former.  I want [intelligent / original] gore and violence!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 18, 2004, 01:18:25 AM
It is not Max Stafford in the net.  Another thing that worries me is that it literally looks like a normal net {like in AVP games} and not the steel wire net from pred 2. I hope this is not true.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 18, 2004, 01:19:06 AM
Btw, "Batman", I'm looking forward to "Batman Begins" even more!    ;D    Alien is second only to Batman, IMHumblestO.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: The__Jerk on Jun 18, 2004, 01:22:00 AM
Marco: Yeah man I just realized that too that it is a Throne chair which is pretty much near the end of the movie...my best bet is that the reason lex tries to hit Scar Pred in that clip is that either A)Maxwell is implanted and Scar wants to kill him B)He wants his trophy for huntin him earlier or C)He just wants to take pics on the Throne..
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 18, 2004, 01:22:02 AM
marco italy.   It is the humans who awaken the queen, when Verheiden picks up the predator weapons from the sarcophagus {the pit wid the red spikes in the trailer}. This also brings the eggs out of stasis, trapping adele and miller in the sacrificial room.  When the preds arrive in the pyramid after wiping out the surface team they are a bit pissed off and alarmed that the alien birthing process has already begun.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: PVt Hudson on Jun 18, 2004, 01:23:12 AM
It is Indeed MAx Stafford in the net, the reason he is still in the net is because he is a prototype android! and hes offline!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 18, 2004, 01:23:46 AM
So, anyone want to speculate as to why the egg-emerging face-hugger is black?  Super face-hugger?  Doubtful.  Too tiny; not webbed.  Face-hugger in the shade?  Possible.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 18, 2004, 01:23:48 AM
yeah, it certainly looks good. Christian Bale was a superb choice.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: The__Jerk on Jun 18, 2004, 01:24:23 AM
Who is it in the net then Batman..cuz watching the first clips of the firefight..its clearly Maxwell getting netted...unless there was another black crew member in the lineup. photo.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 18, 2004, 01:26:07 AM
"PVt Hudson": A prototype android?  Didn't see that one coming.  Thanks for ruining part of the film!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 18, 2004, 01:26:52 AM
eh? a proto-type andriod? WTF U ON ABOUT?  It isn't Stafford in the net. I have SFX magazine wid the picture of the pred holding up Sebastian by the neck, the guy in the net behind him is not stafford cos he is white for one thing, although he is one of the security guys cos he has a rifle.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 18, 2004, 01:27:47 AM
To "Batman": yeah, all the casting's been near-excellent so far.  Just Katie Holmes I have a problem with.  I don't see how they'll pack all that storyline into one film, though!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Barreth on Jun 18, 2004, 01:27:47 AM
To Batman:  Just curious... how do you know all that about the movie? are you speculating or do you have a reliable source..  Also, I noticed the same thing about the net, it looks stupid... I want the wire net... but in the trailer there is a shot of an alien with a grid mark in his dome... I thought that was from a wire net digging into it..
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 18, 2004, 01:29:33 AM
'D make sense.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 18, 2004, 01:34:23 AM
unfortunately no, i don't have a reliable source, just plenty of stuff i have read up on. Yeah, that is true about the grid alien i suppose. We'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 18, 2004, 01:36:29 AM
one more thing i'd like to see in the film, is the pred's voice recording unit. That has always been a cool touch "want some candy?"  I'm off to watch England now.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: WonderBrick on Jun 18, 2004, 01:53:08 AM
Of course there is an andriod(s).  it was hinted at in the cast Featurette as well as with the Predator vision.  ;)
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: WonderBrick on Jun 18, 2004, 01:54:07 AM
There is alot of great mythology/hints/easter-eggs for fans to pick up on.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: marco italy on Jun 18, 2004, 02:03:08 AM
to batman and the Jerk: sorry but my pc is crashed!  thank 4 the info...  Why, Why Whyyyyyy i have to wait until November!! well, Batman, Good England 4 you!! My Italy is so poor...soooo bad...bye at all!!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Barreth on Jun 18, 2004, 02:19:48 AM
Where is it hinted at in the predator vision??  and I guess I need to watch the cast featurette again...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 18, 2004, 02:21:10 AM
I thought "easter eggs" were concealed extras on DVDs...    :)    Seriously, IS there an android?  Oh, no.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jordan on Jun 18, 2004, 02:23:31 AM
Agreed, "marco italy"; November is not good!  Needs to be sooner.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Nightcrawler on Jun 18, 2004, 02:31:36 AM
f**king awsome trailer this movie is going to bee soo good  wohooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Z on Jun 18, 2004, 02:42:13 AM
Pvt Hudson he is a prototype android! and hes offline!  Now where did you get that info   ???   The onley thing we know about him is that.  Max Stafford is of Afro-Caribbean origins and speaks with a concise English accent. Charles Weyland chose him to be the leader of the group and Max used to be a soldier so he has plenty of experience in this area. And also they say in the featurette 3 (new blood) that we are gona see a side of Max that we arrent aware of,and the rest of is team,they have other skills.  So are you basing your fack on those info or other ones cuz i never herd that he was gona be a Androide  But that seams like a really good idea to make Max the frist Androide, so thats why he coud have survive the net.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: cottam on Jun 18, 2004, 02:50:24 AM
i think that the queen in the trailer is having the predalien!!! coz the queen in alien 4 was like that with the dodgy human alien thing
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: WonderBrick on Jun 18, 2004, 02:54:41 AM
Cast Featurette: Stafford.  Predator vision: white color.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: WonderBrick on Jun 18, 2004, 02:58:32 AM
Plus, being Weylands right-hand man adds some support.  Why would we see the leader in robotics without seeing any of his work.  Andriods were a key point in the AVP games as well.  They add another layer to the three-way battle of the species.  I thought the Featurette made it blatently obvious, to a fault.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 18, 2004, 03:06:21 AM
some guys really gotta get their eyesight checked! saying the guy in the net is white! whoa i didnt know black was white!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: WonderBrick on Jun 18, 2004, 03:21:08 AM
The guy getting hit with net is clearly (black)Stafford.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Barreth on Jun 18, 2004, 03:30:45 AM
There might be an adroid... would throw a cool twist on things.. wouldnt say it was made blatent though  but the white guy in the predator vision is not an android... it's the way the scene phases... watch the trailer... they show 2 visuals in the pred vision.. look at the guy before the scenes switch... he's red before it phases.. and then as it phases into the next shot... he goes white
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ? on Jun 18, 2004, 03:36:40 AM
will we c aliens hangin without there skin or whatever thy have .that will be funny to c
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ? on Jun 18, 2004, 03:46:55 AM
maybe 2 nets one to capture the other to kill u now the wire one on pred 2 looked like it was gonna go through his face befor he broke it. so there still might be a wire one
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: WolfAlien on Jun 18, 2004, 03:50:02 AM
But what would you see if the alien was hanging by its skin. The doesn't look like it would have meat hanging off it's limbs.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ? on Jun 18, 2004, 03:54:03 AM
so still funny
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Aliminator on Jun 18, 2004, 03:58:24 AM
WHOS  willing to pay $30 to see AVP right now?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Darkness on Jun 18, 2004, 04:09:02 AM
-- Update -- Finally, PlanetAvP have emailed me and it looks like AvPGalaxy is moving over to the Gamespy network. Once, they\'ve sorted their email system out, an account will be set up for me.
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Post by: El Demonio Cazador de Trofeos on Jun 18, 2004, 04:09:30 AM
I'm in Aliminator!!! Where's the screeining??? hehe
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Post by: El Demonio Cazador de Trofeos on Jun 18, 2004, 04:10:26 AM
Great News Darkness!!! AVP Galaxy is saved!!!!
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Post by: Z on Jun 18, 2004, 04:10:45 AM
Cottam think that the queen in the trailer is having the predalien!!! coz the queen in alien 4 was like that with the dodgy human alien thing.  OMG    ???   looks like a nother one that needs to gets is eyes checked, the Queen is plase like the Queen in ALIENS not like in Resurection, shes on her egg sac.  And why woud she give birth to a Predalien, it dosent make sence onley a Predator coud give birth to a Predalien.   8)  
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Post by: izzet on Jun 18, 2004, 04:19:49 AM
So Darkness, are you still running the forum and website as the administartor? Cos i read a thread in the forum u may sit back and let others run it and i fear AVP galaxy ( especially the forum) will lose it's professinalism that u give it.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Darkness on Jun 18, 2004, 04:24:20 AM
Yes, as things are back on the right track, both the website and the forum will be still run by me. I might make a couple of members moderators in the forum just to clear up anything while I\'m not there.
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Post by: Variable on Jun 18, 2004, 04:35:06 AM
Thank u Real Predator. U have an interesting philosophy on life. I am glad Darkness that things are back on track.
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Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 18, 2004, 04:36:16 AM
just readind some of your comments im with THE REAL PREDATOR cus as long as its got aliens and predators in it im not botherd and thought the fx was brilliant.maybe they will change the line to u one ulgly mother fu**er in the movie but just cus hes says you ugly son of a .... dosnt mean the movie will be crap. the queen looked awsome and i cant wait to see her kick pred arse, i allso think scar looks fantastic allso the visiules on the ship looked great IT ALL LOOKED GREAT !!!!!
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Post by: >>AGENT GLENN<< on Jun 18, 2004, 04:38:25 AM
Thats good news darkness!
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Post by: izzet on Jun 18, 2004, 04:44:23 AM
Right, lets get the news rolling again!
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Post by: Variable on Jun 18, 2004, 05:49:00 AM
What year does this movie take place? Also what the hell kind of guns do they have. They look like pulserifles but this is supposed to be close to our time and there is nothing like that on the market. Belive me. I know. Also I dont know if u guys knew this but right before the pred attacks the group u see a image of a man looking a a gun on the ground with alien slime on it. I think.
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Post by: 6_P@K on Jun 18, 2004, 05:57:38 AM
(drools) step back in amaizment! gonna see it 10000000000000 times!!!   ;D     8)  
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Post by: 343 on Jun 18, 2004, 06:17:22 AM
I remember the trailer for Predator I. You see the character of Carl Weathers in infra-red. In the movie the same scene without the ifra-red.
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Post by: Galmorzu on Jun 18, 2004, 06:19:38 AM
Putting together a few shots we've seen in the past, I bet the guy is walking around the temple, looks up and sees that alien pounce straight down at him, then the camera zooms in on his screeming face.  Later, when everyone comes to investigate the sound, they find only his gun covered in slime.     ;)    And all from just what we've seen in featurettes and trailers.  Heh     ;D  
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Post by: mr nose on Jun 18, 2004, 06:20:03 AM
I NEED NEW PANTS COZ IM SO EXCITED!!!!    ;D  
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Post by: Variable on Jun 18, 2004, 06:23:41 AM
Interesting point Galmorzu but y was the guy wandering the tempal alone? It looks like thats what happened.
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Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 18, 2004, 07:23:33 AM
Variable, the gun they use is the Heckler & Koch G-36. It is a present day machine gun, Those guns looks indeed very much on the M40A pulse rifle from ALIENS.
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Post by: Manegarm on Jun 18, 2004, 07:35:27 AM
Judging by the looks of the final trailer I have all but dispelled my doubts about AvP's success.    ;D   Action-packed to the core. Hopefully this will revive both Predator and Alien serial, with accent on the Predator, since it has recieved less sequels and is in no way inferior to Alien's follow-ups. Also, I like that Predators finally got all those technical tunnings, which current film tech allows. Predator movies kinda lacked that, but that is alright when  observed is the year of their making.  Also, the final explo. is very nice piece of work.  Good job!     8)  
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Post by: Aca on Jun 18, 2004, 07:54:01 AM
  ;D  
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Post by: Aca on Jun 18, 2004, 08:11:10 AM
  ;D   Everything looks fantastic. I hope that it will be at least 2 hours in length. Let us hope that Paul Anderson wont screw something up. Judging by the story and the looks of the film, i think it wont.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 18, 2004, 08:13:11 AM
Thanks for the info Alien Emperor. So its a German weapon. Interesting. Could you tell me what caliber it is and how you know that it is the G-36. Also does it fire a rifle round or is it a sub machine gun.
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Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 18, 2004, 08:44:48 AM
Are you sure they are Heckler and koches g-36? If i find the link, I have a pic of that gun and I dont think its it. Look like it tho. But I think that the G-36 was bit larger. But iLL try to proove my point with the pic. Anyway if they are G-36, I congratulate you of having found it.  Now, I have a suposition about the queen. What if the preds to stop the queen from laying 3000000000000000000 eggs, found a way to keep her '' sleeping''. By frozing her. like these chains could have been fixed to her for preventing her from falling in the thing under her. Cuz that would have waked her by defrozing her. yes I know thats make alot of ''her''. I say that cuz wathching the traila again and again, it seems that the thing coming down on the queen is water, like melted ice or something. So, the mecanism that is turned on by.. dunno, is getting the chains down ,defroze the queen and makes her lay eggs for the pred. I taight I should share this with ya guys. tell me what do you think of it. And for the metal slicing net, look at the grid alien and you have your answer as is it in tha movie.
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Post by: Variable on Jun 18, 2004, 08:51:39 AM
Im with Hell Alien. I looked up the H&K G-36 weapon on google images and I found stuff that looks like it but nothing exactly. But your guess is as good as mine. I havent got a good look at the gun in the movie so I realy cant say. Also I relized that the pistols (which I am still trying to figure out the caliber) and rifles have a green laser site. My guess is to not confuse the normal red laser on a weapon for a predators laser site.
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Post by: Cookies on Jun 18, 2004, 08:57:14 AM
yea it looks like a g-36 to me.
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Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 18, 2004, 08:59:40 AM
i dont mean to sound rude but wuz the big deal with them having  a  g-39 or  a nuclear war head? wuz the big deal seriously.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 18, 2004, 09:04:20 AM
What exactly do you mean by that sandmanxx. If u mean y dont they use nukes its because only the Military uses them for obvious reasons.
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Post by: SaNMaNxX on Jun 18, 2004, 09:09:37 AM
well i see a convo. goiong back and foward about the guns an rifles wuz the point of the convo? like wuz the diffrence of the caliber?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 18, 2004, 09:30:55 AM
bigger gun= bigger boom boom
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Post by: Variable on Jun 18, 2004, 09:52:42 AM
Exactly. The caliber differance in simple terms is how hard an fast and exposive the damn bullet hits where the barrel is pointing.
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Post by: BobCat on Jun 18, 2004, 10:20:20 AM
The guns look like the ones used in Stargate SG-1, P-90s
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Post by: Cookies on Jun 18, 2004, 10:23:29 AM
LOL p90s look nothing like that.  P90 is a regtangle gun
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Post by: Variable on Jun 18, 2004, 10:53:37 AM
Yea. Okay. Whatever.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 18, 2004, 12:33:33 PM
Ya know, I dont think that they are G-36, I am not able to post the pic but the G-36 have a larger front. But i dont see the damn avp gun correctly, no good pic of it. Is there any concep art on it??
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Post by: pooper09 on Jun 18, 2004, 01:38:34 PM
does any one notice the shoulder cannon shots from the pyramid are red??  and the ruby red vision i think is the way the preds see aliens just liek in the games since aliens dont come up on infrared
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 18, 2004, 01:42:22 PM
Man I was just over at aint it cool news.com, and they talk about the new trailer.I havent read so much fu#$%ng B S in my life from these idiots trashing this film.I almost lost my mind so I had to close that page fast.Any hoo I on the other hand and from what I read here this movie is realy starting to take shape.Now what I'm getting out of this and from what i'm getting from u guys is that we feel that the reason for the guys with the heavy weaponry(humans) is for the protection of Weyland, wich in my mind sounds pretty legite due to the fact that he is played out to be this rich famous robotics millionair and they are there for his pritection.But I also feel that mr Weyland might have some idea of what to expect by investigating the pyramid with his protection team rather than just going with the investigation team and achyolaigists( sorry if thats spelt wrong).But I highly doubt he's expecting to come face to face with Preds and Aliens.Now I was wondering were this 'android' idea came from? does anyone have actual facts or are they just prosuming since weyland is in robotics that he will bring a synth along for the ride.I dont mind the idea because it would make some sence since he does introduce to the alien saga  the synthetic humans : Ash, Bishop so mabey we will be in for a synthetic surprise when we see this film.I personaly would like to see this incorperated into the movie and to see if each species would interact differently to it than they would a human.One more thing about the net scene, I forget who said it ( sorry ) but mabey the Preds have 2 designs , 1 for capture and 1 to inflict bodily harm: obviously that one gets the Grid alien but in the new trailer we see the non wire looking 1 in action and that it does infact hold someone or something captive for awhile, we see them in the net in almost every featurette.But all in all I am very impressed with what I've seen so far and I pray to God that this movie turns out every bit as good as were being shown.So now the only thing for me to do is wait patiently until Aug 13 when I will be the 1st person in line for the movie.Wich is saying alot because I usualy wait for the movies to come to dvd unless I'm realy hyped for it like I am for this bad boy.   ;D  So sorry for the novelization but ya   ;)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Galmorzu on Jun 18, 2004, 03:03:01 PM
Heh, I'm not suprised that it's being trashed so hard over there.  I'm seeing a lot of really hardcore bad-mouthing of this movie already; everything from people talking about how stupid a concept it is, to how Anderson's going to ruin it, to how bad this or that looks (or how wrong it looks to how people wanted it to look), and whatnot.  It's really depressing to even go to some of these places, so I choose not to.  But then again, as far as Aint it cool News goes, badmouthing movies and being nasty is what their forums are known for, so what do we expect, eh?     :)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: jerk on Jun 18, 2004, 03:28:52 PM
BEST TRAILER EVER
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Post by: WonderBrick on Jun 18, 2004, 03:33:13 PM
"BEST TRAILER EVER "  I agree
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Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Jun 18, 2004, 04:38:54 PM
A quick question. In which year is AvP set? I can't find it so fast. I know it's set after Predator 2, but before Alien. Which year?
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Post by: izzet on Jun 18, 2004, 07:01:05 PM
2004
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Post by: Vince Stoned on Jun 18, 2004, 07:08:22 PM
First time here, from Holland.  Great stuff, whoooo! But one question I still did not hear is: how long will this movie be???????  I wanna know!!    8)  
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Post by: Rusty Nails on Jun 18, 2004, 07:16:01 PM
"A quick question. In which year is AvP set?  I can't find it so fast. I know it's set after Predator 2, but before Alien. Which year?"  I believe it was said to be 2005, but otherwise they have only said early 21st century.  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: marco italy on Jun 18, 2004, 07:17:01 PM
hy everyone! Well, a quick question to me too!! Anyone know how long (supposedly) is the film?
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Post by: marco italy on Jun 18, 2004, 07:19:42 PM
To Vince Stoned ....well...you beat me!!
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Post by: Alex villaobos on Jun 18, 2004, 08:02:27 PM
  :-\   i just bought the alien quadrilogy on dvd but im confused   ok i just saw alien resurrection and im confused is the Special edition the new version of alien res or is it just for the fans to watch the deleted scenes  I loved the new Alien 3 se but the thing i didn't like was the end ripley does not have the Queen chestburster she just falls in the furnace and dies now is this the old delated scenes or is this a new version. The begining was cool but the end sucked ass oh and bishop kept saying he is the real bishop and he kept saying that it hurts when he got his ear riped of and then he said " f**k im not and andriod damit f**king ahhhahhh" damn paul realy mest this one up for AvP he should have made avp right after alien 3 instead of are time becuse the real bishop was in alien 3 he was no andriod i need to know were these movies deleted scence of were they new versions ?
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Post by: Alex v on Jun 18, 2004, 08:06:36 PM
  ???   will some one please let me know im dieing here Alien Res se Sucked ass the begining was weird with the little fack CGI bug that had eyes then got squished i mean damn that did not look Hollywood quality
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Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 18, 2004, 08:23:59 PM
The Bishop in Alien 3 was an advanced robot with red blood, just cause it hurts dosent mean hes not a robot, in Alien 4, Call screamed when the newborn was hurting her, and when the cable got plugged into her she quinched in pain, besides, the special editions are not the movies, they are just the deleated scenes with the movies. its obvious that with his ear ripped off like that, if he was human he would be on the floor screaming.
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Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 18, 2004, 08:24:38 PM
and why do you think he was called bishop 2?
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Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 18, 2004, 09:52:34 PM
U know, i\'am 110 % sure that is a H&K G-36c model only with fewe things attachet to it like flashlight, lasersight, u know just to make it a bit cooler. And it makes the same sound as the G-36
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Post by: MERC on Jun 18, 2004, 10:13:53 PM
he was supose to be the real bishop
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Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Jun 18, 2004, 10:50:16 PM
i hated it that they include all the deleted scenes in Alien3. Deleted scenes that were filmed but not reinserted back (or put anywhere else on the dvd :( ): - when the company arrives, one of the scientist carries a cage. The prisoner (85?) tells them they need a bigger cage. - more of the superfacehugger. Instead of just lifting it up by the ox, the prisoners talk about it, like what is it? maybe a jellyfish... - when ripley jumps for the sprinklers are the end, she say: "for the last time." It's in the trailer,but not in the special edition or loose at the dvd.  They should have included all the deleted scenes on the dvd, reinserted or just as a loose scene.
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Post by: marco italy on Jun 18, 2004, 11:02:03 PM
I'm agree with alien emperor, it's a G-36, we can see clearly at 01.56 in the theatrical trailer..if u have doubt go to see the H&K site and confront them...
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Post by: marco italy on Jun 18, 2004, 11:05:43 PM
Another thing...if U see the nuke explosion at the pyramid at 02.00 you note that the aliens ar not only at the top of the pyramid, but on the streets of the town too!! I think that all the civilization was wiped out by the xenomorphs..and clearly the predator doesn't expect that..
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 18, 2004, 11:17:42 PM
Alien Emperor how do you know what a G-36 sounds like? I did research onit and I think it could very well be the gun with a few Holywood attchments to make it look good.   8)  
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Post by: Z on Jun 19, 2004, 12:32:16 AM
The Movie is set in the present ( it was stated in an article a while back )  Now concerning the Predator's net. I am not sure if there's 2 nets, but if Max is an Android, he coud survive the wire net, althought he might get damaged. But, if he is human, he's dead, cuz when you think about it, we dont really see him in any other scenes... only those ones. So, maybe he dies pretty quickly, like in Resident Evil. Maybe Paul likes to kill this guy pretty quickly, lol. To put it simply: I think that if he's an Android, he's gonna survive the wire net, but if he's human, he won't survive.  Concerning the Predator's plasma shot. We all know that the 3 remaining Preds on the top of the pyramid are shooting red plasma beams from their shoulder cannon, instead of the 'blue-ish' color in the previous movies. Now, for some reason, it seems to upest a lot of people... but I, for one, don't mind it at all. I think it randomly shots different colored beams, like in PREDATOR 1... most of the time, it's blue, but sometimes it had some red and even some yellow in it. Plus, when Scar fires his plasma cannon, at first, it's white and then, it turns blue. So, maybe it was just an older version of the shoulder cannon that did a red colored blast.  Concerning the Predator vision. I think that when we see the Celtic pred looking at the human in that new 'red vision', it may be a new type of vision that looks like the one he has when he takes his mask off, althought it might have more technology built into it, making him able to see the human and the Aliens with only one vision. I think that would make perfect sense... 1 for the humans, 1 for the Aliens and one for both ( which would be less 'high-tech', but would allow for less back-and-forth switching between visions ), plus his other visions we see in PREDATOR 2, and maybe some more we never saw.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Galmorzu on Jun 19, 2004, 02:05:24 AM
Another interesting note about the self-destruct scene, I don't know if anyone picked up on this or not, but in the older trailer we saw the ground level perfectly.  We could make out each of the buildings down below and it looked sort of bland.  Now if you look you see Aliens skulking about, fires set in the little village areas, and a degree of mist obscuring the area.  When the self-destruct goes off, the primary shockwave kicks up a TON of dust and debris from the surrounding area before the actual blast wipes everything out.  So many people are complaining about how bad this whole sequence looks, but I love how much they've put into it.
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Post by: Joe on Jun 19, 2004, 02:19:37 AM
which predator is the main character u guys are confusing me, i thought it was the celtic predator who was the lead, but some people say scar is the main pred. Either way their both bad ass.
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Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 19, 2004, 02:27:50 AM
There's nothing wrong with yhis sequence   >:D  
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Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 19, 2004, 02:29:52 AM
The Scar pred is the main pred. Cause he got the famous mask.
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Post by: cottam on Jun 19, 2004, 02:31:01 AM
theres no super face hugger coz in a3 a normal one layed a queen egg in ripley   ???  
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Post by: Dachande663 on Jun 19, 2004, 02:50:01 AM
This film looks WICKED!!!!!  I can't wait for it. The shots look heavy and I hope theres a lot of new things in it.  The one thing that I don't like is that when the pred jumps that big gap and goes invisible at the same it looks pretty crap. I mean can anyone jump forwords almost horiazontally. I think he should have gone up more.  Also I think the reason for the different plasma bolts is because of the power level. White might be super power, blue normal and red - low, but rapid (becuase a lot of them are going off).  Just my opinion. Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Stryker on Jun 19, 2004, 03:31:34 AM
Yeah Ive finally got to see something of it. When I was going to see the chronicles of riddick, I seen this. At first I didnt know what it was but then i heard them talk about the antarctic and a temple and thats what clued me off. My popcorn and drink went flying across the room, and I screamed with sheer enjoyment and relief that i got to c it.    ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D     ;D  . Now Im even more excited about the movie. Peace out   8)  
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Post by: Z on Jun 19, 2004, 03:52:25 AM
Well, the main Predator ( the one that allies with Lex ) is the Scar-Predator. He's the one with the symbol that resembles a 'lightning bolt' and he's one of the 5 teens that are send to earth for their "coming of age".  Also... and this is only a tought, the Scar will be the first to kill an Alien and gain this famous 'lightning bolt' mark/symbol on his mask. So, the big question is why the other Predators don't have that mark? Well, maybe they didn't have the time... maybe at first, everything is going well and Scar is the first to kill an Alien and gain his mark. But, soon after and before the others get the chance of getting their mark or kill an alien, things take a turn for the worst and too many aliens are let loose in the pyramid, making it impossible to get a break to get the mark. Or, the second idea I have is that Scar already had that mark, but that wouldn't make much sense, since if he had that mark he wouldn't be a teen, he woud be a man with the status of Warrior.  As for the Celtic-Predator, he's the one with the Pred face type mask, and he is also one of the 5 teen Predators that are send to earth for their "coming of age". Now, some people think that he's the leader of the teen Predators ( but not the leader of that particular clan, we all know how that is). This is only a rumor though... it was never mentionned anywhere.
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Post by: Me on Jun 19, 2004, 04:13:06 AM
I know the pre production work stated that there were 5 teen preds but why are all the shots only 3?
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Post by: Barreth on Jun 19, 2004, 04:15:28 AM
Maybe to surprise the general audience... you know, the people that see a a preview and think "wow that looks good I'll go see that" but aren't really fanatics... therefore they dont go on the net and read all the pre production interviews...  So maybe he's surprising them by making them think there is only 3, but really there are 5...  Dunno, just an idea...
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Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 19, 2004, 04:19:25 AM
well we cant forget the elder predator thats 4
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Post by: broken tusk on Jun 19, 2004, 04:41:40 AM
I hope this movie gets back to the original spirit of the ALIENS,PREDATORS movies and long may it continue, maybe we will see MACHIO NOGUCHI AND broken tusk finally on screen.
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Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 19, 2004, 04:46:35 AM
Is there a small chance for a 'dog alien?' cause i saw in the internet xclusive trailer a wierd alien with al very pitbull like face.
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Post by: cookies on Jun 19, 2004, 04:47:53 AM
Gain his mark?  wtf u saying.  The alien scratched his mask.  He didnt gain nothing.
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Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 19, 2004, 04:50:18 AM
Nah, forget it. Just a strong build alien, his host was probably the strongest man of the Mayan's
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Post by: Batman on Jun 19, 2004, 05:19:54 AM
Max Stafford isn't an android. The movie is set in 2005.
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Post by: Variable on Jun 19, 2004, 05:32:16 AM
Where did u find the movies setting date? I couldnt. I dont think Stafford is an android either.
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Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 19, 2004, 05:39:07 AM
Yeah, no androides that's a lil'crappy to rubbed in, u know
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Post by: SmallzFSU on Jun 19, 2004, 05:42:39 AM
cookies, the mark theyre talking about is not the scratches on his helmet, but the scar on his skull.  According to the comics when a teen Pred kills an Amend Khaine (Hard Meat) (or something like that spelling) they go through whats called the "blooding ritual" which is to take the acidic alien blood and make the mark of the clan on the skull of the predator, which burns the mark in permantly.  Its a coming of age ritual, and thats why the warrior preds are known as "blodded"  Again though, thats not form any movie or reputable source, just the comics.   :)  
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Post by: Galmorzu on Jun 19, 2004, 05:44:54 AM
2005?  I thought an older interview said 2035?  BTW, I read a pretty interesting article in a magazine today on AvP.  It was with Lance Henrikson and I think it was in Starlog, but I can't remember.  Nothing really new, but it was still a nice read.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Aliminator on Jun 19, 2004, 06:28:08 AM
gosh, i hate stupid people who thinks that PREDATORS WILL WIN because of HIGH -TECH, those stupid people are in my school trashing AVP, gonna kick their @$$.   >:D    also, the preds got big shoulder cannon maybe becasue of old time, such as our guns, it gets smaller and smaller BUT STRONGER!!.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Barreth on Jun 19, 2004, 06:41:28 AM
What are you talking about?  This takes place after the other 2 predator movies... they made them bigger in this movie to signfiy they are stronger... not the other way around
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Post by: WolfAlien on Jun 19, 2004, 06:57:18 AM
Can anyone tell me whether or not the grid alien is acctually the pred alien or not. I am still getting confused about it and the more I think about it the more it seems to make sense to me.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 19, 2004, 07:19:41 AM
@ Wolfalien. the grid alien is NOT a predalien its a normal alien but has the criss cross scaring on its head due to the fact that a pred caught it in its net but the aliens acid blood burned itself free but left the scaring from the net.Now there has been some mentioning that there may very well be a predalien in the film but I havnt seen any pictures anywere to confirm this so I guess there leaving that a surprise for when we go see the movie.And aliminator, I agree with Barreth on that one, the Preds shoulder cannons are bigger in this movie due to the fact that they arnt hunting puny humans there hunting aliens so thats why all there equipment has been suped up also this movie is a sequal to the Pred films and a pre-quel to the alien ones.So Aliminator dont take this as me bad mouthing you Im just correcting what your saying   ;)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 19, 2004, 07:33:40 AM
you say a human cannot survive a pred net, but the cop did in predator 2
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 19, 2004, 07:45:21 AM
if im not mistaken the survives becuz he has the disk and cuts it off  BUT when u  see one of the jaimaican get cout with the disk u see it cutting through hes face ....
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Post by: sandmanxx on Jun 19, 2004, 07:46:04 AM
with the net i meant to say
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Sam04Je on Jun 19, 2004, 08:02:16 AM
I've seen half of the trailer! well good can't wait to see the rest Dam 56k modems!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: predmike on Jun 19, 2004, 08:14:41 AM
i cant wait it looks greattttt
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: cookies on Jun 19, 2004, 08:21:15 AM
i would think the pred would need a more powerful shoulder cannon when facing humans not aliens.  Shoulder cannon is long range which is what preds need when facing humans with weapons.  Being in a pyramid i dont think they are gonna kill any aliens far range.  Personally i think the weapons stink in avp other then the staff.  those 4 foot wrist blades are so fake are stupid (its like its folded inside their wrist) and that throwing star (shariken?) OMG thats so lame, replacing the throwing disc with that junk.  I love this movie so much but i hate how they made the preds look stylish just stuff that just wont see balivable coming from creatures like that.  Creatures that cant see complex shapes and such having design caracteristics like that is just really dumb.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alex Villalobos on Jun 19, 2004, 08:52:41 AM
there were some parts from Alien 3 se that should have stayed in the real version and there were other scenes taht were dumb like the part were Morse says "we have a tiny ween little problem" i mean come on the Alien escaped should he say we have a problem or a big prolbem and a the end of Alien 3 se Ripley falls in to the furnace she dosn't have a Queen chest burst she just fall and dies and the back ground looks real fake. There were some scences taht were good in alien 3 se that were delated that shoul dhave bin in the original thatrical realeas  For alien resurrecction se the beging sucked it shows a guy squishing a little fake looking bug that is supose to represent an alien witch is dumb. At the end of alien res it shows them land on earth and they are look at a city its all in runes there like in parise or something because the directer was french most of the delated scence were good but the beging sucked the original beging was better so there was still some scence that sould have stayed in the original version that were not  Alien quadrilogy my thoughts about the se versions of Alien 3 se and Alien res se   Oh and when they say in Alien Re that Wayland yutani was bought out by wall mart that was just plain dumb i mean come on wall mart dose not build worlds
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 19, 2004, 09:11:24 AM
@ cookies, " Creatures that cant see complex shapes and such having design caracteristics like that is just really dumb." what the hell are you talking about? I realy disaggre with you, and what do you mean they cant see complex shapes? who the hell do you think made there ships nasa? for a species that can travel through space and has such high tech weaponry I highly doubt that they cant see complex shapes, obviously it looks that way through infra red but they obviously have good enough visual perception to create such technologicaly advanced machinery.And there wrist blades if you watch the featurettes you see they extend to normal length then to extend more they drop down an inch or 2 on the wrist gauntlets then extend further and looks believable to me.And the shoulder cannons are obviously more powerful and larger due to the fact that the alien exoskeleton is much stronger that human flesh even with armor and they obviously plan on using there cannons on the aliens or they wouldnt have made them larger and even brought them for that matter.As for them droping the disk for the sharuken also makes sence in the fact that there in pretty confined places most of the time and that would make the disk alot easier to lose or bounce of walls wich would screw up the return path for them, this way the throwing star thingys can just be used to either slice/stab or to throw directly at the target without having it hit the target then return to the thrower like a boomarang.Dont get me wrong I like the disk as much as the next guy but the shiruken thingamabobs seem more practical in this enviroment.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Erez on Jun 19, 2004, 09:21:45 AM
I've just read that AvPGalaxy is a part of Gamespy network and I'm very very happy    ;D  .
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Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 19, 2004, 09:23:37 AM
i have
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Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 19, 2004, 09:23:55 AM
made the
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Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 19, 2004, 09:24:51 AM
300th comment! YEAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cookies on Jun 19, 2004, 11:05:43 AM
Bringer of death, I guess it was stupid to only complain about their looks when they infact created amazing technology, but i guess the whole idea is strange to me unless they have perfect vision on their home world.  Now im not saying im a little kid who knows nothing about aliens and predator becuase in fact predator is my favorite movie of all time and was for..... 8 years maybe more.  and aliens oh man since i was alittle kid.  I just freak out over the pred becuase i like its style in predator 1 where its alittle more balivable and not to overdone just for presentation, sort like everything is there for a purpose and not looks.  Oh and dont get me started on the alien : )   noting beats the alien design on aliens!   LOL   peace.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ZX on Jun 19, 2004, 11:35:33 AM
Okay a few points.  What worries me is not the visuals, action, effects etc.  What worries me is linking this in with  ancient earth civilizations.  It seems to me that Anderson has only half-baked the idea.  Let me explain: Who built the Pyramid?  It cant be any ancient civilization as the Antarctic has been inhospitable for millions of years long before man in any shape or form walked the Earth.  This is something a lot of people on this board seem totally unaware of. People seem to think Antartcica was warm at some point in human history and this is not the case.    So that leaves the Predators.  So an advanced space faring race comes all the way across the galaxy builds a pyramid and then disappears for a thousand years?  Also if the preds built it then their craftsmanship looks very human and not particularly alien in design.  I don
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: EvilAndy on Jun 19, 2004, 12:05:27 PM
Too add to that, I'm guessing all that stone and material used to create the pyramids was hauled over by the predators using their ships, that leads me to believe they could have just as well build the pyramids with their ships without human labor.  Cause where are you going to find all the material in the antarctic?  Not to mention are these pyramids resting on ice or actual ground?  That would be pretty unbelievable to set pyramids on ice while it melts underneath over time, I would suppose.  Good catch ZX
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 19, 2004, 12:20:56 PM
ok i got one ? to  uhmmmmm weyland said iz 2000 feet under ok kooz now my ? iz how do they get those trucks down there u know those with the big lights that are point at the pyramid?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: EvilAndy on Jun 19, 2004, 12:25:49 PM
Good question.  Maybe the ice breaker boat has a drill and a lift on it, who knows?  Should be interesting to see that unless Andersons answer is to fastblast through the explaination and the next scene from the boat is the trucks rolling up to the pyramid.  We do see them throw the flair down that perfectly made hole in the trailer though and that does look like drill work of course but they wouldn't slide those things down there and expect to leave them there.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 19, 2004, 12:29:12 PM
lmao true true  lets just wait and see and liek u said i hope he just doenst jump from scene A to C liek i wanna know how that shit got down there lol ..
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ZX on Jun 19, 2004, 12:43:59 PM
Yes these are points that are coming out.  To drill down 2000 feet (that
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 19, 2004, 12:58:54 PM
ZX in with that too man ..   ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of death on Jun 19, 2004, 01:35:52 PM
About what your saying, how could they have time to chisel the story on the walls, mabey the Preds have a certain group of humans they chose that they dont kill and have them round up the chosen sacraficial people and to document the cerimonies like the egyptians write the hyroglyphs on the walls while preparing there bodies for mumification and barrial.Also I thought the Preds use the temple every some odd years so they could keep it from being burried by ice and keep it up to par for the rituals, I mean they must go there once and awhile to check on the queen to make sure shes still alive and stuff.You guys do bring up some interesting points though.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 19, 2004, 02:15:45 PM
ok now those are predators pyramid y are they using alien stuff for ?  it like it was built in away that the alins could have  acceses to the pyramid like in the sacrificial chamber the eggs come out  it also has alien drawings of alins on the wall like he said be4 WHY? they also said iz the predators TRAINING gound (the pyramid) they are not training they are fighting with the aliens already soo i dunno alil weird and confusing... But i quess we will see ...My other question iz how long theybeen at war for? must be a very long long time.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 19, 2004, 02:27:02 PM
first off they dont leave the pyramid every 1000 years its every 100 years which isnt long for the preds, 2nd of all in the featurette they say its from 3 different cultures some human but mostly alien type sooooo mister I cant suspend my disbelief even b4 the movie comes out! well u can cram it up your ass!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: {The}Ghost on Jun 19, 2004, 02:35:02 PM
I for 1 think that there is going to be a predalien in this movie...there has to be 1. in one of the pictures (now my background) from the official website, where the predator is on the right looking left and the alien is on the left looking right and there are 3 ppl runing in the back, look at the top middle, there is a face that looks like the face of the predalien in the avp games...doesn't any1 see that...another thing is for the flashback where the ppl are laying on thoughs tables with the facehuggers on them, then you see in a few of the previews that all the ppl are walking in with there flashlights and there is that circle of bodies on the table, but sceletons. so the ppl in white on the beds is in the FLASHBACK part...(that was a argument from way up neer the top of these conversations.)
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 19, 2004, 02:39:55 PM
pvt hudson u better not be talk tome like that anf if u are f**k u ...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Rusty Nails on Jun 19, 2004, 03:43:52 PM
Uh, people, the climate WAS warm by the time the ancient civilization built the pyramids by the help of the predators FOR the predators. Don't you ever look up anything? Just look at the first goddamn featurette - PA said himself that they built it in the honor of the predators because they thought they were their Gods. *Sigh* The antarctica being cold all the time? Blech, you can even see in the newest trailer when its exploding that it is NOT the f**king case.  Sorry but it just pisses me off when people who doesn't look fully into the facts tries to be a smartass about it.  Flame me all you want, it's nothing personal against anyone.  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 19, 2004, 03:46:34 PM
here is my theroy: you remember the preds fighting the thousands of aliens in the ancient city right? well that was a disaster it could have wiped out the entire human race if the aliens ran off, the humans are a prized prey of the predators so the predators built a pyrimid in a place where the aliens could not excape into the general human population, I think that the predators are great admirers of the planet earth, it being a perfect planet, with all climates and enviornments, it is a prized hunting world, and the predators hunt yet respect the humans,  Also I had a life-changing experience a few hours ago, I saw the new movie Dodgeball (which is the best comedy ever made) and there were all these teens from my school in the theater, the same ones who relentlessly mocked me for likeing AVP, they knew I was there, and after the AVP trailer played some guy from my school screamed "You rock Adam!!!" and the theater applaused after the trailer and after the guy said that, almost everyone there was a person from my school and knew me, i just sat there with a grin on my face.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Rusty Nails on Jun 19, 2004, 03:57:41 PM
Lol, that's awesome. :P  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Mac on Jun 19, 2004, 04:05:59 PM
  ;D   cool thats far out
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alex v on Jun 19, 2004, 04:08:50 PM
the mayan's were the ones that were wiped out by the aliens or xenomorph that was there pyramids that the three preds were fighting on
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Post by: XENOME "venome Alien from spiderman" on Jun 19, 2004, 04:10:10 PM
well Alex v is right i cant wait for this movie
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: VENOM on Jun 19, 2004, 04:11:52 PM
XENOM thats a good name if venom had an Alien thats what is would be called
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 19, 2004, 04:16:33 PM
SaNdMaNxX, it's obvious that the sacraficial chamber with the egg stands are made and distributed there by PREDS not aiens and it was obviously buit for that reason, and the reason the pyramid has alien carvings along with human and pred is because the sole purpose of the pyramid is a training ground for the preds to hunt the aliens in there right to manhood rituals were teen preds go there to hunt and kill the pre stocked aliens andd if they dont survive they 1 loose there lives obviously and 2 do not make it through there man hood passage.Now the 2 species have deffinently been in contact with each other for who knows how long but the pyramid isnt a war zone its a training ground, but as we see in the new trailer training can easily turn into big trouble if to many aliens populate the area thus resulting in the self destruct scene on top the pyramid when the alien numbers become to great for the preds to handle.And @ The}Ghost , the picture describing is non other than a large predator sculpt of a pred head in the stairway chamber/area of the pyramid.This topic was brought up way back when and most of us including myself feel this is only a pred head sculpt adn nothing else, but hey your guess is as good as ours but I realy think it isnt a predalien.Also im glad to hear Adam JZ that the trailer is with another movie besides Riddick, I guess this is the start of the advertising bombardment, I hope anyway.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Rusty Nails on Jun 19, 2004, 05:05:59 PM
Isn't the trailer supposed to show up on TV as well?  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: JustAnotherAlien1 on Jun 19, 2004, 05:16:51 PM
I think they said that the pyramid was once a part of South America, but after the Preds detonated themselves, the blast caused it (or broke off some land) to shift out to sea or something... Anyway it somehow wound up in Antartica. I believe thats what they said. Please correct me if im wrong.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Rusty Nails on Jun 19, 2004, 06:27:13 PM
Can't say I've heard that theory before, but it makes sense in a way.  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: jerk on Jun 19, 2004, 07:40:06 PM
hey, did any of u guys see the apple exclusive trailer of avp?
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Post by: Hicks on Jun 19, 2004, 08:30:55 PM
Thanks for the link darkness, hope that gets me sum traffic!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ZX on Jun 19, 2004, 10:28:20 PM
Rusty Nails you are an IGNORANT ASS!  No one is trying to be a smart ass here.  If you knew anything about the Earths  history you would know Antarctica was warm millions of millions of years ago, long before  any human Walked the earth. How many times do I have to say this?  By the time humans came along the Antarctica was one of the most inhospitable places on Earth and no civilization could live there let alone prosper and build pyramids. That is a FACT.  Also the pyramid we see in the trailer is no doubt in South America and not in Antarctica. My point is that if Anderson is going to bring in Earths history then he
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Rusty Nails on Jun 19, 2004, 10:39:04 PM
Arrh use paragraphes man, that's what they're there for. :)  Ohwell, you may be right, you may be wrong, I'm just saying that for all info we have recieved from the Avp universe is that nothing so far have pointed away from it not being Antarctica.  I suppose it may just be like JustAnotherAlien1 was saying here, that the whole island drifted away, but then it wouldn't hold on to the speculation that says that the predators decided to build their "manhood" pyramid there, and not in such an isolated place as Antarctica.  We'll all see when it comes out.  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: flonge on Jun 19, 2004, 10:54:32 PM
Don't forget that this is supposed to be entertainment not history class. Everyone knows there will be plot holes in this move... check out Moviemistakes.com... there are terrible mistakes in most movies... Don't excpect it to be fact based, this is a sci-fi triller action horror movie!!! Not a documentary! And wait for to see the movie before saying there are plot holes ZX!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ZX on Jun 19, 2004, 10:58:55 PM
That Pyramid we see in the trailer exploding is from a flashback sequence when the leads are deciphering the hieroglyphs.  It shows what happened before at a pyramid at another location, that was made clear in an interview with John Bruno the effects supervisor.  I
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 19, 2004, 11:03:04 PM
I see your point and I agree with u on the pyramid in south american. It could also be from central america to but we have no way of knowing. I know it is inevitable to have some plot holes but I hope they are nothing major.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ZX on Jun 19, 2004, 11:12:51 PM
We all know it
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 19, 2004, 11:19:15 PM
I think the point is that these predator visits took place all around the earth. South America seems the obvious choice for predators first visits with the heat yes? They made first contact with the humans who then worshipped them as gods. When the alien/explosion disaster happened, the ritual was moved to antarctica to stop it from happening again. The preds hunt for sport, they did not want to wipe out whole civilisations but they had no choice.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: batman on Jun 19, 2004, 11:33:21 PM
to whoever i was talking to the other day, u r absolutely right, it is max stafford in the net. ii apologise.  hopefully this means we shall get the real netgun and not the spear that explodes into a net thing.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Jose on Jun 19, 2004, 11:33:33 PM
Awesome but........................ the CGI IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!  The pyramide scene looked...bad IMO. very bad. and at the end when the alien jumped to "eat" the viewers, THAT ALSO LOOKED TERRIBLE!!!  But other than those 2 thing, I loved it
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 19, 2004, 11:49:31 PM
that is the best CGI I have seen from any movie this year, you must have been watching the unfinished MTV one, otherwise, stop smoking whatever you are smoking.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hicks on Jun 20, 2004, 12:41:54 AM
Guys the pramid being there was supposed to be from another part of the world which was blown off or something and kinda got stuck in antartica.(i think thats wat i read this morning)  Anyway the preds cud just have brough sum humans there and made em build it!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: BobCat on Jun 20, 2004, 02:38:22 AM
Whats the thing in flying through the air after the "matirx face-hugger" scene?
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Post by: El Demonio Cazador de Trofeos on Jun 20, 2004, 02:46:28 AM
To BATMAN and ZX a little Arquelogy class here THERE ARE NOT PYRAMIDS IN SOUTH AMERICA!!! the closest thing to a Pyramid in south America is in Macchu Picchu and its a temple rather than a pyramid...(and there's one site in Ecuador but it's far from being a pyramid)...if you're thinking about the Mayan Pyramids, then here's a little Geography class the Mayas lived in North America and Central America, that's Mexico, Guatemala, Belice, Honduras and El Salvador..... now, here's the thing...if you watch the concept drawings the problem is that some of them are based on Mayan art and others are based on Mexica art (or wrongly known as Aztecs), what I've seen so far in the trailer it's mostly Mayan, but the Predator Statues look more Egyptian, so it's indeed a mixture of cultures there, I don't care what their designers did because it's a Sci-fi action movie but I wanted to clarify with you guys regarding the locations that the Mayas used to rule...  AvP will ROCK!!!!  Saludos
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: J on Jun 20, 2004, 03:35:47 AM
FOR PITS SAKE! alot of people are making alot of negative jugdements and  we haven,t seen the film yet, all thats ALL film movies have aleast 1 or few flaws in but that doesn't stop some of them breaking box offices records does it.  THE TRAILER WAS SO ****ING BRILLIANT, lets at least give paul anderson his dues for making the movie, who else would have steped up ????
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cookies on Jun 20, 2004, 04:28:59 AM
First off the MTV one is the finished one since u actually see the pred cloke when he jumps in air and u dont see on others. Second u cant reall judge cgi on these crappy trailers.  But to me yes that alien jumping at screen looks like a really crap puppet.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: cookies on Jun 20, 2004, 04:34:09 AM
since these pyramids have to do with the preds i still dont understand why they would want them in the antartic since they hate the cold.  I think it was all done becuase humans had to be in the movie dialog, and they had to put it somewhere where theres no population, so it was undiscovered.  The movie should have been set in the future though.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Aliem Emperor on Jun 21, 2004, 01:16:59 AM
Why they build the pyramide in the cold antartica is for the training of the preds, to make it harder. Like marines and commando's. u know,
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Sam04je on Jun 21, 2004, 01:20:44 AM
Does any1 no where to Download the trailer from?
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Post by: Terhou on Jun 21, 2004, 01:21:48 AM
Sorry bout having using this page i was at country side 4 this week couldnt acces Internet.Judging by the trailer this movie will ROCK!!!   ;D     ;D     ;D  
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Post by: Sam04je on Jun 21, 2004, 01:44:11 AM
Sorry just realised i can download it from this page!
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Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 21, 2004, 01:44:16 AM
u cant win with fx these days if its not cgi it will be go motion and models....i like models for space ships ec,, look at ridleys scott alien ships not even dated but id go for cgi instead of go  motion just look at jurassic park.. cockies if u think that alien looked like a crap puppet look at the queen in aliens hanging on ripleys foot as the air lock opens(i am i big fan of all alien movies) so lets give this film a chance shall we??   ;)   HAIL KING ANDERSON
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Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Jun 21, 2004, 02:14:14 AM
@ZX_ man you are looking WAYY to deeply into this movie. its only supoosed to be entertainment- i mean i dont think anyone on this site really cares if antartica was inhospitable as a fact- its only movie- your going on as if its oyur livlihood.-just build a bridge.  and as for COOKIES- you have to remember pal that although this is an Alien and Predator movie and they should remain faithful to the franchise- they HAVE to bumf it up- i WOULDNT be satisfied going to see this movie and not seeing some new gadgets. also if you think about it(only concerning the predators) they have kept EVERYTHING! the blades are the normal size, but when the predators encounter something bigger, they simply extend them.i think the shuriken looks utterly shit cool and is WAAAAAY better than the orignal. - answer me this- would you really be FULLY satisfied going to see AvP and not seeing NEW things?- i know i would  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat..........-real pred
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Jun 21, 2004, 02:17:50 AM
also COOKIES- the pyramid is situated in Antartica to add to the toughness of the ceremony- Distaining from the cold is part of the coming of man ritual- im not having a go you now dont take me up wrong  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat............-real pred
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 21, 2004, 03:09:38 AM
I hate mofo's who are bashing this movie because they are actually realizing that this movie is actually gonna be AWESOME! if your soo cool and youd ont like this movie, why are you wasting all your time talking about it! your just jealous that our dream movie is being made and your dream movie about you and your dad in bed, isnt being greenlit by foX!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 21, 2004, 03:11:21 AM
can i just say some thing on this cold thing about predators.. now we all know that aliens dont show on infored right????or give off heat right???? so they really dont need to be heat for preds to see them. all they do is change visions ta daaaaaa! i think predators hunt humans in the heat cus we give off more body heat.. then again they still will see us as its colder all around.... but im still tryin to work out why the pred in predator could see infored when he taken his helmet off   ???   maybe it was cus he was in a cool place eg fridge for meat and the pred ship..
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 21, 2004, 03:13:27 AM
or maybe the pred in predator 1 was coulored blind lol
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 21, 2004, 03:17:24 AM
first off BATMAN the movie is set in 2005 not by our years but by that alien universes timeline! so yes androids may exist and it may be a prototype! 2nd of all there is a super facehugger! (nto in avp, but in alien3 which lays 2 eggs 1 queen 1 drone) there is no pitbull faced alien, there is no dogalien in AVP. Maxwell Stafford IS the one who gets caught in the net! there is not white plasma shot, its only cuz its soooo bright that it temporarily flashes the screen white! ITS BLUE OR RED. whoever said that the pyramid is in antarctica cuz it blew up and flew there! no offense but your an idiot! and whoever is still complaining about why the preds are in antarctica cuz they hate the cold, well first off read a million other message boards b4 u ask about this, because its been addressed a million times! and 2nd of all no one ever said the preds HATE the cold, its just implied that they prefer to fight in the heat, just like us humans, would you like to go hunt a polar bear in minus 50 weather? NO! youd rather be where its WARM! GOD GOD some people are sooo f,ing stupid that it frustrates me! anyways Props go out to HELLALIEN, ADAMJZ, THE REAL PREDATOR, and Z and others! you guys are True alien vs predator FANS but real props go out to DARKNESS! keep it real guys! ask anything, and ill give you an honest to god correct answer and ill openly admit it if i dont know the answer to your questions!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Coockies on Jun 21, 2004, 04:29:48 AM
androids in 2005?  super facehugger?  that was deleted from alien 3 becuase it was stupid as hell idea.  No such thing as a super face hugger.  Second preds like SUPER hot weather where we dont perfer that hot or that cold weather.  If the pred only comes on the hotest days then it shows theres something the preds have against the cold.  Yet they fight normal.  So that is really stupid part of the movie.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: cookies on Jun 21, 2004, 04:33:18 AM
Didnt know you where talking about batman on that android thing.. batman LOL   And poeple gotta stop defending stuff on the movie, if its stupid and wrong then accept it and shut up. Stop finding reasons why is not and telling the person off.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cookies on Jun 21, 2004, 04:36:22 AM
LOOK YOUR MAKING ME SPELL MY NAME WRONG! AHAAHAHH omg i hate typing right after i woke up from a long day of work.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 21, 2004, 06:05:27 AM
whats thoughs purple spikes that the preds walk up to???
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 21, 2004, 06:40:47 AM
Purple??? are you colour blind?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 21, 2004, 06:43:10 AM
Ok Hudson, tell me how did the aliens & preds run into each other in the first place. This question goes out to everybody actualy. Tell me what u guys think. Be open I am interested.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 21, 2004, 07:54:56 AM
Hudson, Just answer the his question OK, U know what he means right? And i wonder what that is too.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 21, 2004, 07:59:09 AM
And if u dont know, Then u dont have to talk like that. is was a normal question.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 21, 2004, 08:39:27 AM
YES HUDSON I MAYBE!! it might be red   ???   by the way get an original name
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 21, 2004, 08:42:52 AM
i just had an other look yes there purple
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Jun 21, 2004, 08:46:19 AM
Amen PVT HUDSON- at last someone (and those who were mentioned in pvt hudsons comment) who is not narrow minded- fair play to you man- i dont know what these twits are shitin on about. ill back you on anything cose you damn well have ure head screwed on right.... take care bro  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat.......................-real pred
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 21, 2004, 09:01:50 AM
whoever said that the superface hugger doesn texist because its only in the workprint cut, well id rather use that as an explanation then to have a plot hole the size of your asshole!    and i dont give any explanation as to how the preds and aliens meet, id like to see what paul andersons explanation will be on it! and if he does explain it, then that will be the official reason, until then id sorta like to believe the preds bioengineered them!  thanks real pred!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 21, 2004, 09:17:10 AM
it was the jocky race, the preds dont use organic technology.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 21, 2004, 09:19:19 AM
one roumer is that, hundreds of thousands of years ago, back when the predators were a civilized race, they were at great war with the jocky race, the jocky race created the aliens as a weapon to kill off the predators, but it got out of hand. and their own creations destroyed them.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 21, 2004, 09:32:36 AM
how do you know the preds dont use organic technology? did you go on their planet and make a formal inquiry?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: BlOoDtHiRsTeR[devil] on Jun 21, 2004, 11:28:05 AM
personallly i do think he went there
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: BlOoDtHiRsTeR[devil] on Jun 21, 2004, 11:30:36 AM
  ???  i think those spikes were like a ...ah ah in there ship yeh ah  .  . part of ship
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 21, 2004, 11:52:51 AM
Didnt someone post on here that the thing the 3 preds a walking up to is  an alter of some kind and that a few of the humans find that room and take the preds weapons from the alter, now im not postitive on who said this but i deff read it on this page i believe.Now whether this is actual fact or not we'll have to wait and see.And the alter deff has a redish pink hughe to it but it may have looked purple on your computer Shakermaker if the color and tint stettings are a little off.But im not going to flipp out on you like some heads on here because even though I know my sh#t of both species i'm open to suggestions and dont think everything I say is absolutely right and can never be wrong so say what you have to say everyone  and dont listen to half these guys that tell you other wise unless your going to bad mouth this movie or I'll be with them and nail your ass to   ;)   @ BlOoDtHiRsTeR[devil] I believe the room with the glowing alter is indeed in the pyramid itself but again these are questions that will be answered when you see the movie in its entirety.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Z on Jun 21, 2004, 11:57:53 AM
AdamJZ | 21 Jun 2004 12:16 am  one roumer is that, hundreds of thousands of years ago, back when the predators were a civilized race, they were at great war with the jocky race, the jocky race created the aliens as a weapon to kill off the predators, but it got out of hand. and their own creations destroyed them.  -----------------------------  OMG!   ???     ???   This ain't no rumor... it never was and it will never be one. Stop making things up just to sound like you know a lot about AvP. Some of you people need to stop with the idea that the Predators created the Aliens. They didn't create them!!, can't they just be 2 different species?!? This ain't StarCraft! Plus, I have read all of the Aliens vs Predator comics, and in none on them did they say that the Predators had created the Aliens and its good that way... I wouldn't want it any different.  Concerning the Predators vs. the Jockeys Again... what a load of crap!!   :D   It was never mentionned anywhere... not in any comics, movies, games, cards, etc. that the Predators have meet the space Jockeys, and even if they did, it was never mentionned in anywhere and that's final! So, the whole Predator vs Jockeys battle and the idea that the Jockeys created the Aliens are 100% false. Can't the Aliens be their own race, creaded by no one we know?! I, for one, like the fact that we don't know much about them, that we don't know where they came from, how long they have been in this univers, etc. and same goes for the Preds.  And as for what Pvt Hudson said about the android... I think he was just giving his idea, wich could be true. I for one, wouldn't be suprised if they put an android in Avp. But, I also know that if there was an Android in AvP, that would mean that they didn't get much improvements, upgrades, for many, many years, as Ash ( the android in ALIEN ) doesn't look that different from Max. Also, we all know that Ash went all "psycho" on the crew of the ship, which proves that he ( it ) was far from perfect. But, yet again, Paul might have thought this through and maybe Max will have some serious 'bugs' and/or some major flaws.  And for the people that bitch the movie's CGI... I dont get you... the GGl looks really good; far better than what we have seen from other movies that used it, like: HELLBOY, COR, LXJ, GARDFIELD, and the list goes on and on. The thing about CGI is that the person or thing that is made in CGI always looks somewhat more 'pale' than the rest of what we see, just like the first time we saw the 3 Predators fighting those Aliens. You see all those Aliens climbing those stairs and they look pale! But, in that new trailer, they really look amazing!!!...believe me, that is some really good CGI. They don't look pale at all, plus when you see them getting hit by the Predator's plasma beans, they get blown away so realistically.  I dont know about you, but me and THE REAL PREDATOR are pretty hardcore fans of AvP. We're also hard to satisfy and we know how much this movie has potential of becoming one of those great classic movie. Just wait and see...  Paul now has my trust, and no, I'm not blinded by the fact that I like AvP so much that I "would like anything that anyone would make", cuz at first, I was like everyone: mad that Paul was the director, but I gave the man his chance! Plus, he's a hardcore fan like some people are here. Trust me, this movie will be a clasic   8)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 21, 2004, 11:59:19 AM
@ AdamJZ , were di dyou get that info from on the Space jockies vs the Preds, seems like a comic book made up story to me wich is deffinatly not a good fact to go by seeing as how I sure Ridley Scott didnt plan on incorperating the Jockies with preds since a Pred movie wasnt out until almost 10 years after the first alien movie and I dont realy like that idea to much myself.The space jockies belong to the alien saga and mystique and i dont think they should be part of the predator history as well, if you ask me I would rather go with how the comics tell about how the preds capture queens have her lay eggs then ship them off to populate planets for them to later hunt.But hey I'm not trashing your idea at all i'm just saying id rather that the Preds and Jockies stray as far as possible from them becoming entwined in each others stories thats all
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SENTINEL on Jun 21, 2004, 12:52:51 PM
  ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 21, 2004, 02:33:38 PM
I was just looking at the pics from the trailer posted at planet avp, and the scene were the 3 preds are at the alter thingy, if you look close at the one on our left next to the 'celtic' pred it looks as if there is a new pred we havent seen yet.His mask has distinct markings like the celtic one but seem a little different  http://www.planetavp.com/avpmovie/screenshots/index6.shtml  thats the link to the page with the pictures but the one im talking about is on the bottom row, so ckeck it out and let me know what you guys think
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Me on Jun 21, 2004, 04:53:23 PM
Its the one in the opening sequence in the trailer where the pred and alien face one another. That pred has gill like slits in the sides of his mask.The 3rd that we see commonly has the normal pred mask we are all accustomed to.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 22, 2004, 12:26:23 AM
So we've identified 4 preds so far!  1. Celtic Pred 2. Scar 3. Regular mask without scar 4. Gill like pred  now the 5th must be the elder which we havent seen yet!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: shakermakerman on Jun 22, 2004, 03:47:21 AM
  ???     ???     ???     ???     ???   wtf..........lol ... any way dos any one know why the colinest dint pick up that signol from the bone ship????
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 22, 2004, 03:56:43 AM
I got that info from one of the comics
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Jun 22, 2004, 04:10:02 AM
i agree with Z, we are tough to please and im very pleased. i am neither blinded by the fact that im an AvP fan or the fact that thanks should be had thats it simply being made- i will give my honest verdict.   i think those that bash the movie...ahem...COOKIES are still living in the 1970/80's. the franchise needs a boost and if done correctly will make the originals better. i dont mind the change because i know it looks cool- where as you dont like the change for the simple fact that it has changed. that is a sad quota to live by. i think theyve handled the transition perfectly from what ive seen.   Even the music is utterly amazing.  Z- you are indeed a legend.  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat......................-real pred
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: zach loser on Jun 22, 2004, 04:17:19 AM
Predator is still going to win nomater  wheat   :)     :)     ;D     ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 22, 2004, 04:39:54 AM
no shit the preds will win! they gotta win for the sake of continuity!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Terhou on Jun 22, 2004, 06:21:55 AM
That Queen on the eggsack looks the same as AvP:Extinction 5th marine mission briefing screen artwork   ???  Cool Predator cloaking!   ;D  .Didn`t know that Yautja could throw an Alien just like that!   ???   That orange vision mode is Electromagnetic i think!dontcha 2?   ???  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Terhou on Jun 22, 2004, 06:37:26 AM
Am i the only 1 who hangs on this site every day?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Barreth on Jun 22, 2004, 06:46:32 AM
No, ur not... my job is so utterly boring... I sit in front of the comp all day... but I get paid for it... so no complaints... but no, I spend a good portion of my day on here... chatting it up in the forum
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 22, 2004, 06:54:47 AM
Yeah, me too every time i go on internet, i first check this site.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 22, 2004, 08:00:06 AM
no, your not alone im here all day too lol!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 22, 2004, 11:27:22 AM
I AM SO TIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I`v worked 50 hours in 3 days, this is insane. This is not a joke. Thats why I did not came on galaxy for a while. Yes I know you all miss me. There alot o things that need to be said here.  Fisrt, thanx pvt hudson for the good words. thanx bud. Now, for the pyramid thing. know what I think?  1- the pyramid was built like in mexico, then brought up to antartica. Why??, well we all saw that aliens HATE! cold. So that could have been a way to prevent the aliens from getting out of the pyramid. That could be the reason why they put it like 2000 feets under too. And it could have been harder for the ceremony. I also think that the searchers will find a kind of secret entrance to the temple. otherwise the preds should have to dig 2000 feets all the time??  Or the pyramid was build there like 1000 years ago and got forgotten and thats why its so deep. As for the cold in the pyramid, ya maybe dont know but even if its ice, it can be real hot in there, ever got into a igloo?. I did and you get warm after like 30 mins in there and you need to get some off or its like in damn summer. ( an igloo is an Inuit construction made of ice just in case ya dont know    ;)  )  Next, the franchise indeed needs a boost after 3 awful movies in a row. I found P2 was great but it only made like 30 millions . not enough.  and we dont know for sure that there is no disc in this. PA is keeping some surprises ya know. Even if the elder is the only one to have one, its at least that. As for the weapons in general, they look awsome, I just want to see a pred use that ceremonial dagger to get a head off !! So cool. As for that G-36 thing, I think thats its one, I saw a good pic of it on avpworld, and its like it.   As for the jockeys that have created the aliens, look in the comic dstroying angels of the aliens series. there a passage where they mentioned the aliens jockey relation. BUT its a comic so its bullshit, no facts!!!!!!!! just fun.   Well , I`ll begin by this and happy to be back, By the way, Z you rock . I love your kind of answers and your great. Again, pvt hudson, thanx for the good words.  See ya all later
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 22, 2004, 12:23:24 PM
Does anyone here happen to know when the novel for this film is coming out? Also, I wanted to remind everyone here of a question that was asked earlier on, how long is this movie?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 22, 2004, 12:28:33 PM
Cetanu, I was just on Amazon.ca and the novel came out on June 8th it says there and has a 2-3 day delivery date.So if you want major spoilers and cant wait for the movie get the book, thats if it is a actualy scene for scene type of movie book.I personaly am waiting for the movie in August baby!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 22, 2004, 12:35:38 PM
heres the link for ya Cetanu, its to amazon.ca but if you happen to live in the states just go to amazon.com instead they have it there to.  http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060735376/qid=1087871068/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/701-0884380-8296339
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: SaNdMaNxX on Jun 22, 2004, 02:34:11 PM
hey CETANU just a quick notice the book has 288 pages mostlikely iz ganna be about 2 hours...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Terhou on Jun 22, 2004, 08:06:38 PM
awsum awsum awsum!!!   ???  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Alien Emperor on Jun 22, 2004, 08:50:21 PM
Hello, Hell Alien   ;D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Jun 22, 2004, 10:07:09 PM
HELL ALIEN! glad your back- and so is complete the circle of the TRUE AvP Fans...  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat....................-real pred
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 22, 2004, 11:33:23 PM
sooo whos in the circle of True AVP Fans?  i think first foremost would be Darkness,   Who else?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 22, 2004, 11:35:06 PM
Hey guys, I know all of you are probably sick of discussing why the main body of the story is being set in Antarctica, but I am here to defend the plot Anderson has written, I know its utter genius and I want to prove that to all of you once and for all.  For those who want to know how this starts. In the beginning Anderson is basing his story off of theories from some famous guy named Eric/Erik von Danikken ( doubt I just spelled his name right...ohhh well ) , this guy firmly believed that such a primitive and savage people like the Aztecs or the Incas, whoever is being used couldn't have possible constructed their elaborate cities and pyramids on their own. He theorized that they constructed the pyramids with alien help. These aliens that arrived to help them became their Gods, they began to idolize and worship them due to the seemingly limitless technology they possessed that enabled them to build their cities. The Gods they worshipped 'came down from the sky in giant ships' and of course we all know that the Predators had mastered space travel, even that long ago. Now we know that the Gods they worhsip are Predators, so you know that when you worship something that you're willing to do whatever it takes to appease them. The Predators definately used this to their advantage. They pretty much said "Okay, now that we built your city, you get to do us a pretty little favor, you get to be used as hosts for the Xenomorph facehuggers. Now this ties in perfectly with the fact that these ancient civilizations practiced human sacrifice, except in this story its facehuggers not a knife through the chest. Now this is all to be done of course in a special ritual pyramid, because I'm sure that Yautja knew, even then about the Aliens notorious ability to infest and spread. Part I is done fellas, my fingers hurt, I'll finish the rest later on, feel free to praise or criticize ( if you dare ) what I've written so far.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 23, 2004, 01:48:00 AM
Very interesting yet i knew this already but im glad you put people in the know!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 23, 2004, 01:50:16 AM
Whats this?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 23, 2004, 01:52:59 AM
I just made the 400th post ! YEAAAAAA! lol
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 23, 2004, 01:53:49 AM
Alright, time to finish this. As I was saying, the Yautja more than likely held the coming of age ritual inside if a pyramid on purpose so as to seal in the Xenomorphs and prevent them from escaping into and infesting the main body of the city should things get out of hand. All of a sudden though, the ritual doesn't go quite according to plan. The Aliens bust out of the pyramid and immobilize the entire city's population to be used for hosts. Lets say five Predators had been hunting the Aliens, two have been killed, leaving three left who have escaped to the top of the Pyramid. With nearly thousands of people exposed to the facehuggers, this in turn results in thousands of obviously pissed off Aliens swarming up all sides of the Pyramid to get to the remaining Preds. Realizing that they have no chance, the two Preds still alive ( the third is dead after getting impaled by an Alien tail ) activate their self destruct and KA - BOOM! The Aztecs are effectively wiped out along with all the Aliens!  With that training ground gone, the Preds must find another spot on Earth so that the ritual can continue. I must credit Adam JZ for this brillitant theory, but the Preds then pick Antarctica, the harshest environment on Earth, isolated from all the rest of the world. This isolation is crucial, and the Preds know this is important because they dont want the Aliens escaping to infest the rest of the world and spread out of their control again; like what happened in S. America. The Preds then construct the ritual Pyramid out of their own technology with the help of their surviving worshippers. At the 1,000 year mark several humans are sacrificed leaving behind the eerie skeletons and such that you see when the team enters the Pyramid. Now, 1,000 years later, its time for the ritual to begin again. Now someone mentioned of just how convenient the Pyramid was in a hollowed out cavern when the team finally is able to drill that deep. In one of the featurettes you hear Weyland say "7 days ago one of my satellites discovered a sudden heat plume over Antarctica". My guess is, you have to remember now, this Pyramid is mostly Predator technology, so, perhaps the Preds planned for the fact that in a 1,000 years of idleness their pyramid would be buried underneath layers of ice, so they built in some form of device that heats up the outside of the pyramid, melting the immediate ice around it, creating that cavern making it at least somewhat accessible. Is anything I'm saying making any sense, I hope so, my fingers will be pissed if I they knew they typed so long only to have their hard work backfire.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 23, 2004, 05:38:59 AM
good job, just one thing though, its not every 1000 years, its every 100 years, the film opens up with an attack on a whaling station in 1904
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 23, 2004, 06:09:59 AM
You are incorrect Pvt Hudson, Paul Anderson at around 2:00 of the 1st featurette says every 1,000 years.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 23, 2004, 06:39:00 AM
It Changed! you are the one who is incorrect! if you watch the featurette on the creatures, you actually see a scene from 1904 where we see the preds blades extend and we see a guy back away!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 23, 2004, 07:08:25 AM
Why do you think its 1904?  Also look at that guy who is backing away at 1:04,  why is he wearing modern day shoes and jeans if it is 1904?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: ismguy on Jun 23, 2004, 07:39:43 AM
cetanu i very much agree with you.  i love reading discussion boards but i dont normally post because i dont want to argue with some asshole with a half ass theory that is totally bunk but i definitely agree with what you are saying.  plus people really really need to accept its sci fi and you can write whatever you want in sci fi.  and you never know either.  if there was a jesus he could have been an alien?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Punisher on Jun 23, 2004, 08:23:35 AM
i must say that that trailer nearly made me cry with sheer pleasure. but in the trailer when the pred "ran accross thin air" it did look pretty shitty but overall this movie is shaping up to kick quite alot of ass.    :D  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 23, 2004, 09:31:53 AM
HOOYAH!   :)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 23, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
That was a good job cetanu. very complete, i like it.  it was of curse obvious that they were gods to the civilians there, I mean the preds were gods, and that the civilians made the 1 pyramid. But about the heat bloom, you brought up something interesting there cetanu. Could the preds activates a device that defroze evrything, remember in the trailer where we see a map of what seem to be the pyramid and the corridors on the map all suden got orange( heat bloom). Maybe the preds from space had activate device to defroze the aliens in there, or something like that. And then the queen is defroze too by accident then hell broke loose.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 23, 2004, 11:56:15 AM
Hey A emperor and real predtor, thanx  for the warm welcome. Appreciate it, really. But what about the true avp fans circle?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 23, 2004, 11:49:44 PM
hes not wearing sneakers, hes wearing black boots, and look at the furniture around them, old crackety wood and old silver metal plates?  and i hope you know denim has existed for almost 250 years?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: J on Jun 24, 2004, 12:24:04 AM
If there is an Alien 5 whats the chances of us knowing more about Weylands other bussiness associate, Yuntany?    ;)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Jun 24, 2004, 12:25:49 AM
when i say "the true circle"- i merely refer to all who are giving this movie a chance instead of bashing it based on the trailer. however, ive been posting here for about a year, i know many who come and go, but what i do know is that one who ahs been here as long as me is........Z.......... and is also a true AvP fan, as is Hell Alien, PvT Hudson, Bringer of Death and one who hast appeared in a long long time, ALias. i mean not to offend anyone by not mentioning them.....  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat................-real pred    ;)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: AdamJZ on Jun 24, 2004, 01:08:21 AM
Question: Are there even Whales in Antartica?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 24, 2004, 01:52:49 AM
Yea there are. Some whales go to Antartica to migrate. But not many. When they do I dont think its for long. What the hell does that have to do with anything though?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 24, 2004, 02:26:49 AM
Our debate is not going anywhere Pvt Hudson. We can only speculate.You still haven not answered how and why (if it is) the date is 1904. Why has it changed from 1,000 years to 100 years? I am actually inclined to believe Paul Anderson rather then you, Pvt Hudson.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 24, 2004, 05:32:48 AM
Thanks for the props the REAL PREDATOR, also I thought I read or watched in a featturette anderson tells that the preds are the one that dig the ice tunnel, mabey they send a devise down like the machines they send in the books to populate the planets with alien eggs to dig out the tunnel before they arrive and when they do they slaughter the ground crew thats gaurding above ground.can anyone back this up for me?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 24, 2004, 07:58:06 AM
oh by the way, Pvt Hudson. Denim has only existed for around 150 years and was only beginning to be worn around the 1930s and WWII. The only people who wore them before that were gold miners. I still stand my ground on this point and how do you know he isn't wearing modern boots to protect his feet from the cold?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Darkness on Jun 24, 2004, 08:51:41 AM
I haven\'t read all of this argument but I was just skipping through a set report at JoBlo\'s Movie Emporium and I quote:  \"Many different locales & time periods - Whaling station -1904 & present day...\"  I\'m not sure about the other things Pvt Hudson mentioned but there\'s a scene that takes place in 1904.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 24, 2004, 09:29:25 AM
Interesting, Darkness you two may be right. However I looked everywhere and I noticed that 1904 is only mentioned superficially in articles and reports about AVP, like the one you quoted Darkness It could be a rumour or gossip who knows? I just don't see why Paul Anderson would go against what he said.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Cetanu on Jun 24, 2004, 10:13:37 AM
According to the timeline in the film, Paul Anderson said the attack on the Whaling Station is the first scene. However, he constantly keeps reitterating of how much he wants to hold true to the style of the first two Alien films and the first Predator. In all those movies, you never caught a full glimpse of the creature into well into the film, to help enhance the fear and build - up. In that scene under debate, if it is indeed the Whaling Station with the guy backing away, then we've already seen a Predator right at the beginning completely contradicting all that Paul has said. Also, what in the world would cause a Predator to attack a Whaling Station? That kind of defies all logic dont you think...
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 24, 2004, 11:43:39 AM
What we are goin to see is maybe just a glimpse of tha pred, just hi hand or parts of his body but not that much. For tha whaling station thing, we dont know anything on this so I say that we dont start arguing on it. we ll see in the movie whats are the pred motive for the atk. but for now, we could say too many things on it. Anyway, the movie will give so many answers to all of our deepest questions. Not all but alot.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Pvt Hudson on Jun 24, 2004, 12:48:35 PM
Thanks guys for helping me prove my 1904 point!
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 24, 2004, 01:08:37 PM
We shall see if you are right Pvt Hudson, we shall see. I am undecided on the matter myself and think it is very strange.Time will tell sooner or later, Time will tell as Hell Alien rightly says.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hell Alien on Jun 24, 2004, 01:24:35 PM
But about the 1904 thing, if they say it in the mags and articles, there is alot o chance that it will be. I saw the articles and even if they are just slightly saying it, its there no doubt. So..., 1904 seems good to me. Hey Hudson, good call on this one man. You were the first to say it but I wanted to verify the thing before saying anything. But seem like its 1904 in Hell!!   ;D     8)  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: TheOutcast on Jun 24, 2004, 01:59:26 PM
Ok, I have looked and only a few articles mention any actual details about the 1904 'incident'. I think it is likely that a 1904 scene will occur but because of the lack of detail (e.g. http://www.cylon.org/films/avp-01.html- "This introduces the credits which leads towards an undefinied scene at a Whaling station within the Arctic Circle in 1904"), I don't know any details to why there is a scene. Also just because the predators appear in 1904 does not mean they are coming for the 1,000 year ritual. It could be some other matter to do with humans not aliens. So Paul Anderson may not go against his words. If indeed when the film comes, you are correct Hell Alien and Prv Hudson about 1904, then I stand corrected however the scene as I said may not break the 1,000 year rule.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: PredFan on Jun 24, 2004, 07:24:20 PM
Are you out the Kris Trickmaster   :-\  
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Variable on Jun 24, 2004, 11:59:10 PM
I think it is inevitable for there to be a 1904 sceen. Where else will the flashbacks come from?
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Hypnoz on Jun 25, 2004, 09:36:54 PM
OK obviously you guy's aren't THAT observant. The Big self-destruct thing at the end of the trailer, that's also a flashback. Why and how do i know? It is because look at the SKY! Yes, the SKY. If they were 1000 ft below ice you wouldnt see a red and black sky like that. So obviously someone tells them what happened before.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Bringer of Death on Jun 27, 2004, 07:42:57 AM
I thought the whaling station is in the same area as the pyramid so if the pred are going to the pyramid they may as well take a few human skull tropheys since there right there.Also I thought the explosion we see at the whaling station takes place in the present time not back in 1904, I thought thats the scene they talked about in the features or interviews were the explosion occurs and a pred just gazzes at it like a reptile would.Yopu may be right though Hypnoz but we'll see
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: Lurker on Jun 27, 2004, 06:46:18 PM
SPOILERS??  I think that the 'splosion happens in 1904 because in the brief clips that we see the 2004 expedition walking through the whaling station,  the buildings are dilapitated (sic?).   Whereas, just as the building is going boom, the buildings are relatively intact.  Probably the results of the Preds clearing out the whalers out of their ritual area in 1904.
Title: Re: AvP Trailer Finally Online
Post by: predmike on Jun 28, 2004, 03:32:15 PM
  ;D   wuz up i agree with luker about the 1904 thing but we will all see in august and i am sure we will see another trailer or some tv spots