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Title: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 30, 2017, 08:37:55 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/alien-isolation/alien-isolation-mothervr-mod-impressions/

QuoteA new Alien: Isolation mod entitled "MotherVR" has brought VR functionality to the Oculus Rift on PC. Modder Zack "Nibre" Fannon has taken what once was only compatible with the development kit model of Oculus and ported it to the consumer version. Nibre plans on providing functionality for the HTC Vive headset as well.

Alien: Isolation VR mode was previously demoed at E3 2014 leading up to the game's release. Unfortunately this prototype VR mode was only used for promotional purposes and the feature never made its way into the full release. Last fall, Sega hinted that the game may receive a VR update or re-release, but we haven't heard anything since.

The feature was still hidden inside of the game's code, and thanks to Nibre it's now easily accessible to anyone with a consumer model Oculus Rift. I had the chance to test the mod with my Oculus Rift, and thought I might share some impressions.

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By RidgeTop.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: RidgeTop on Aug 30, 2017, 10:17:54 PM
I had a really good time with the VR feature.

The mod has just been updated to Alpha version 0.3.0 (https://github.com/Nibre/MotherVR/releases), which added HTC Vive support.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Iron Infililtrator on Aug 31, 2017, 03:06:59 AM
Virtual Reality Alien Isolation was probably the most scariest experiences I've ever had with something the creates the illusion of being near something horrifying. It feels like walking into a deserted area where your friends told you it was haunted, you just feel the dread. How was your experience?
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Olde on Sep 01, 2017, 09:59:41 AM
How has this not been made official? No, I mean seriously. How? Are Sega THAT stupid?
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 01, 2017, 10:31:15 AM
Perhaps VR just isn't considered main-stream enough for it to be worth the risk. Alien is niche enough as it is and VR isn't in every household.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Kimo on Sep 02, 2017, 08:08:37 PM
Why I ain't played this game mod in VR due to not having an Oculus/Vive. I really hope something that has Alien(s) in the title comes to PSVR in the near future. One of the best VR horror experience ive had was playing the whole Resident Evil 7 in VR for the first time. It just made me wish for an AlienVR game even more.  :'(

I agree with what Corporal Hicks says. VR is not main stream enough at the moment, it's still a novelty. The price needs to dramastically drop, and 4K screens need to be the norm for VR. Also Let's hope films like Ready Player One can also boost the sales of VR then we may get a true Alien AAA title made for VR in the near future.





Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Olde on Sep 03, 2017, 01:19:53 AM
That VR isn't "mainstream" or in every household is sort of like saying there's no reason to make VR games at all. Yet VR games exist, which means there must be some sort of market for them.

And Sega wouldn't even have to build the game from scratch, which most VR games have been. This mod's very existence is evidence enough that it didn't take much to transfer the game to the platform. This dude made the mod all by himself without getting paid. All Sega would have to do is work out a deal with him to add VR support to their game. It would be incredibly easy.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: RidgeTop on Sep 05, 2017, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: Iron Infililtrator on Aug 31, 2017, 03:06:59 AM
Virtual Reality Alien Isolation was probably the most scariest experiences I've ever had with something the creates the illusion of being near something horrifying. It feels like walking into a deserted area where your friends told you it was haunted, you just feel the dread. How was your experience?

It was great man. Naturally there were a few bugs and issues but overall, for shorter bursts of play, it's an enthralling Alien experience.

I think VR is still in its infancy and will come into its own. Prices have already dropped drastically for both the Vive and the Rift. Next year we'll likely start to see some wireless headsets.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Iron Infililtrator on Sep 10, 2017, 04:49:44 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 05, 2017, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: Iron Infililtrator on Aug 31, 2017, 03:06:59 AM
Virtual Reality Alien Isolation was probably the most scariest experiences I've ever had with something the creates the illusion of being near something horrifying. It feels like walking into a deserted area where your friends told you it was haunted, you just feel the dread. How was your experience?

It was great man. Naturally there were a few bugs and issues but overall, for shorter bursts of play, it's an enthralling Alien experience.

I think VR is still in its infancy and will come into its own. Prices have already dropped drastically for both the Vive and the Rift. Next year we'll likely start to see some wireless headsets.
Definitely agree.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 11, 2017, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Olde on Sep 03, 2017, 01:19:53 AM
That VR isn't "mainstream" or in every household is sort of like saying there's no reason to make VR games at all. Yet VR games exist, which means there must be some sort of market for them.

Not saying that at all. Just that some companies may consider it too much of a risk for some properties.

QuoteAnd Sega wouldn't even have to build the game from scratch, which most VR games have been. This mod's very existence is evidence enough that it didn't take much to transfer the game to the platform. This dude made the mod all by himself without getting paid. All Sega would have to do is work out a deal with him to add VR support to their game. It would be incredibly easy.

Completely fair point and I'd forgotten things like Value adopting some mods as officially endorsed. Yeah, I can see what you mean with that. Perhaps Sega just aren't as interested in community stuff (which really wouldn't surprise me given the lack of modding support for all the releases under Sega) or hopefully they've got their own VR stuff in the works. IIRC they did express some interest in the possibility in the past.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 11, 2018, 10:27:31 AM


So the guy who made MotherVR has continued working on the mod!
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: bobcunk on Nov 22, 2018, 05:43:33 PM
Why wasnt this realest to psvr? It seems like a perfect game to be in vr.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Richman678 on Nov 23, 2018, 02:13:59 AM
Well this is the main game to play for oculus rift.

I might get one now.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2018, 08:28:59 AM
I keep being more and more tempted to get a rig.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Nov 23, 2018, 06:53:42 PM
Ok, I'm sold.  This looks awesome.  Assuming I am using an Xbox 360 and I have the game, what else do I need to do to enjoy this terror?
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: The Old One on Nov 23, 2018, 07:38:34 PM
Unfortunately you'll need a PC capable of supporting both VR and Alien Isolation.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Nov 23, 2018, 08:02:25 PM
Will a laptop do?
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: The Old One on Nov 23, 2018, 08:45:36 PM
I'm not confident, depends upon your specifications.

I'd recommend a 970GTX Graphics Card with appropriate equals and a Desktop myself.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Nov 23, 2018, 09:22:21 PM
So is the gaming industry not embracing VR?  Can one not just get a system like XB or PS and just go to town?
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Vertigo on Nov 23, 2018, 10:29:59 PM
PlayStation has their own VR solution, but the best set (HTC Vive) is PC-only.

Microsoft has pulled back on Xbox VR, there's an article here (https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/20/17485852/microsoft-xbox-one-no-vr-headset-support-windows-mixed-reality-e3-2018). I'd imagine it's due to a combination of hardware constraints (it takes A LOT of juice to run decent VR) and expectation of low demand. There's probably an assumption that if someone can afford to drop money on a VR system (the HTC Vive costs twice as much as a console) then they can afford a decent PC.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Hyperdyne120-a2 on Nov 26, 2018, 04:02:39 PM
Damn I need Occulus.  :-/
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: The Old One on Nov 26, 2018, 04:32:32 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 23, 2018, 09:22:21 PM
So is the gaming industry not embracing VR?  Can one not just get a system like XB or PS and just go to town?

No. The hardware isn't equipped for it and the demand doesn't exist.
Basically, what Vertigo said.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Griffith on Nov 27, 2018, 04:20:57 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2018, 08:28:59 AM
I keep being more and more tempted to get a rig.

Before you do it, try your best into getting it to use it first. I have used my Oculus Rift for more than 2 years and I'm still unable to use first person game mods. The motion sickness is horrible, no more than 2 minutes and you will feel bad with a terrible headache. VR sounds like fun but it's not for everyone.

Pardon me if I'm off topic but this game even if it's pasive it's still troublesome for some people. Why? Your brain can't adapt to the fact that you are moving virtually when you are standing still or seated, that translates to motion sickness, when you do abrut or quick turns things go from bad to worse. The only way the industry have managed to let everyone enjoy VR is by making games where you don't move and when you want to, you "teleport" from one side to another, that way you don't get nausea.

On VR by looking around you will find the experience enjoyable because in that case it IS your head moving and your brain saying, yeah this is ok. but the moment you move... game over.

One last thing, you can move without feeling bad but veeeery slowly, VR works great with Flight sims, because you are confined to a cockpit and your surrounding moves very slow.

A year ago I tried the alien isolation VR mod. I swear it.. I tried very hard and I failed.. no more than 10 min gameplay without feeling bad (motion sickness).
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Vertigo on Nov 27, 2018, 10:37:30 AM
I used to get motion sickness from Half-Life 2 when it came out (as did a lot of people). It was largely resolved by increasing the FOV, resolution and frame rate. My understanding is that the higher-resolution Vive Pro is a bit easier on motion sickness; I wonder if this will continue to improve as the aforementioned aspects are worked on.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Stitch on Nov 27, 2018, 12:22:27 PM
I have PSVR and enough kit to connect it to PC and use with SteamVR. MotherVR is pretty damn good. Apparently it's been updated to use motion controls, but AI is designed to be used with a pad, and that's how Creative Assembly's VR mode worked, so that's what I'd recommend.

Just as a comment on what Griffith said, Yes, VR conversions of normal FPS games can feel a bit weird, but A:I had a VR mode built in, so it's more comfortable than just loading up Quake in VR (though I have that on mobile phone VR, and it's awesome).
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: alexpj19 on Dec 01, 2018, 10:35:27 PM
Thanks for this post, had no idea about this MOD! tried it, ITS AMAZING!!!
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Oasis Nadrama on Jan 27, 2019, 04:50:18 PM
I'm with Griffith on this one, VR is nausea-inducing and free-movement first person VR is even worse.

I did play Alien Isolation in VR mod, I really wanted to enjoy this, and it was quite the terrifying, oppressive experience... but thirty minutes of this left me with an urge to puke for four full hours. I'm not exaggerating. I wish I was.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 27, 2019, 07:00:37 PM
I play on a 56" tv and that makes me want to lose my cookies very often after about 30 min of play so I can only imagine what VR must be like.  Still want to try it though....
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Sabres21768 on Mar 19, 2019, 01:27:15 AM
I don't have a problem with vr for the most part.
The only issue I have with Isolation is that your weapons/motion tracker movement are attached to your head movement and not your hands .
That part really throws my brain off.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: The Old One on Mar 31, 2019, 12:46:25 AM
https://www.digitaltrends.com/virtual-reality/mothervr-alien-isolation-on-modern-vr/?amp
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 10, 2019, 05:07:11 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 19, 2019, 01:27:15 AM
I don't have a problem with vr for the most part.
The only issue I have with Isolation is that your weapons/motion tracker movement are attached to your head movement and not your hands .
That part really throws my brain off.
Speaking as someone who has had little exposure to VR, that's a really interesting point that I never considered. FPS games slave your weapons to your POV because that's the only way they'd work, even though that's obviously not how your head works in real life.

Do other FPS VR games handle it differently?
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Stitch on Apr 11, 2019, 01:58:38 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 10, 2019, 05:07:11 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 19, 2019, 01:27:15 AM
I don't have a problem with vr for the most part.
The only issue I have with Isolation is that your weapons/motion tracker movement are attached to your head movement and not your hands .
That part really throws my brain off.
Speaking as someone who has had little exposure to VR, that's a really interesting point that I never considered. FPS games slave your weapons to your POV because that's the only way they'd work, even though that's obviously not how your head works in real life.

Do other FPS VR games handle it differently?
Games designed for VR usually have decoupled aim. Since A:I wasn't initially a VR game, not fully anyway, it's based more on the standard FPS style.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: The Old One on Apr 26, 2019, 04:59:44 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 06, 2019, 12:02:32 PM
Shevvie brought around his Occulus Rift yesterday and I tried out the 0.8.0 release of MuthurVR. f**ked about a bit on Survivor to get used to it, then played through Crew Expendable. I did record it, but we were numpties and turned the light off for atmosphere and the screen didn't illuminate my reactions as much as we'd liked so might have to do another night.

But it was really interesting. Very intense! An Alien game built from the ground-up for VR would be amazing!!
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: The Old One on Dec 18, 2019, 03:20:08 PM
Certainly, sounds great.  :)
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 22, 2020, 06:54:25 AM
Title: Re: Alien: Isolation MotherVR Mod Impressions
Post by: The Old One on Feb 17, 2020, 02:05:44 AM
Oh yes.