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https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/patch-notes-2-36/26716
Also of note, Noland's mask from Predators is unlockable at Rank 250:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783114751713738754/949032946113867776/20220303125725_1.jpg)
Is it just me or does he look ... weird ? Idk, something seems off
Voodoo should be better with putting it to words
After few more looks, I think head looks kinda small
Nolands mask looks too small perhaps
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 03, 2022, 09:28:19 PM
Is it just me or does he look ... weird ? Idk, something seems off
Voodoo should be better with putting it to words
After few more looks, I think head looks kinda small
More like mask is too big:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/603438127314632704/949040556489732136/20220303132030_1.jpg?width=1542&height=867)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/603438127314632704/949052715147886664/unknown.png?width=1542&height=867)
But head size looks fine.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/603438127314632704/949029429764575252/20220303124349_1.jpg?width=1542&height=867)
Also. netting is missing and one of the eyes isn't blind. Besides the DLC, barely any gameplay balance changes so its just another lackluster failure in trying to increase game quality and just taking people's money for hollow and bugged DLC content.
Pretty disappointing update honestly. Hopefully we get a more sizable one for the third anniversary in late April.
Wolf was absolutely who I was most hoping this update would feature, so I'm definitely glad about that; even with the presence of the now seemingly obligatory visual "quirks".
Little disappointed that we didn't get an AVPR skin for the plasma pistol though, especially since they show him holding it in the promo art. I never had any expectations that we'd get his whip or mines or anything truly new, but given that we've had a few weapon skins now with DLC characters it does kinda suck that he gets nothing.
And yeah overall it's a pretty small update, but to be honest I think the days of "big" updates with new maps and modes are behind us now. I'm just happy we at least got another cool movie Predator added to the game after all this time, rather than never at all.
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 03, 2022, 10:02:41 PM
Wolf was absolutely who I was most hoping this update would feature, so I'm definitely glad about that; even with the presence of the now seemingly obligatory visual "quirks".
Little disappointed that we didn't get an AVPR skin for the plasma pistol though, especially since they show him holding it in the promo art. I never had any expectations that we'd get his whip or mines or anything truly new, but given that we've had a few weapon skins now with DLC characters it does kinda suck that he gets nothing.
And yeah overall it's a pretty small update, but to be honest I think the days of "big" updates with new maps and modes are behind us now. I'm just happy we at least got another cool movie Predator added to the game after all this time, rather than never at all.
Yeah no weapons for Wolf is a missed opportunity. I mean at least reskin that handheld plasma pistol, they already have the model on his shoulder (which is too small). But he would've been perfect for dual casters, mines, the shuriken, or the whip.
I'm glad we finally have an AVP Predator in the game but his face and mask both look off. They couldn't even bother to make one of his eyes white.
I think you might have said this Kailem, but it does feel like this stuff was supposed to come out sooner and got tripped up in the lawsuit.
I still think we'll see a few more updates, I just really hope they're larger than this. Fingers crossed for the AVP hunting trio around Anniversary time. And we've seen Tracker, more masks, and a number of other datamined elements still to (hopefully) come.
I would imagine they'll be wrapping up the new content with the game around Prey time with a movie tie-in.
Bought DLC. Still locked ingame.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 03, 2022, 11:11:08 PM
Bought DLC. Still locked ingame.
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1499483115747778564
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 03, 2022, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 03, 2022, 11:11:08 PM
Bought DLC. Still locked ingame.
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1499483115747778564
Yeah, I talked to them on their forums about. Just surprised this again, happened before so I assume they would test this before or at least fix it faster since they have experience dealing with this.
Haven't downloaded him myself yet but I think I can explain the face. It's the same rig they've been using for every Predator so they have to work within the confines of that else they end up with the Super Predator faces. But the face is gonna be a little off since it's not meant to be used by anything bigger than normal. Wolf kind of has a chunky mouth if that makes sense. So it having the scale of the other pred mouth and mandibles would probably be the thing that's making his face off model the most. If anything I think Scar and Fugitive would probably be the one most at home on the Hunting Grounds rig
His lack of weapons I can kind of understand. The whip is wishful thinking and given the dreadlocks flying everywhere I doubt they could get the whip to work. Dual plasmacasters may be a balance issue on top of Wolf being the only one to use it. The powerpunch glove could be the overload attack and I'm not sure how the cleaner kit would work outside a Predator mission objective. But the spear, shuriken, and pistol are oddly missing. Especially so that Wolf is even holding the pistol in the promo art.
My assumption is that the spear or shuriken would come with Scar but the pistol (especially since the pistol comes from HIS MOVIE) really should've been here.
The mask being big I can only assume would be to cover the super Predator heads.
All and all that while I'm glad he finally showed, the DLC at a glance looks far from perfect. The anniversary though I have higher hopes for.
We already have a plasma pistol on the game, I think thats why they buffed the plasma pistol, they are using that as a form of new weapon for Wolf. :laugh: He is even holding it on the picture.
Just buff an already existing weapon, pretend its the same one that Wolf used in the movie and call it new.
So I guess Requiem is canon to the solo series. Wolf's death is outright mentioned in the in-game description. This might also be the first time Aliens or Xenomorphs are directly mentioned in solo material (relative to the Disney era). So it looks like the crossovers are canonical all over again.
Also holy SHIT is Wolf off model. The mask specifically needs to be squished in the middle and pulled down if that makes sense. The "mouth plate" does have a flat section at the top and the bottom needs to be brought up more.
Think more the Hot Toys figure
(https://www.shioktoys.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/6/_/6_15_3.jpg)
But what it looks like was that the people or person in charge of modeling Wolf's mask seems to have based it on that cosplay mask.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71SnI5EjlhL._AC_UX679_.jpg)
And in turn Wolf himself looks like he's wearing a mediocre cosplay version of his own armor. Seriously why are his gauntlets so damn big?
EDIT- I'm not f**king done
- His gauntlets need to be shorter in length by like 20%. They almost clip into his biceps.
- His bronze or copper accents are gone for reasons that elude me.
- His backpack needs an increase in size by 10 or 15% all around.
- Why is his plasmacaster freaking puny? That thing is nearly as big as City Hunter's while in the film its large enough Humans have to hold it like a rifle.
- skin colors and armor color are not displaying correctly. They can display correctly in menu but in-game became a jumbled mess of textures.
- He currently lacks netting.
- They left the pocket for the dissolving liquid but forgot to actually put the vial in it.
- Why is the default color on his helmet so damn dark? It's nowhere near as dark in the film. I'm pretty that cosplay is also where they got the color from.
- In thermal and this is a minor point but armor is visible in thermal where here it's not. Not sure why TBH. They did make sure to highlight his crotch though.
- Wolf's roar isn't used here. So they went to the effort of giving City Hunter a distinct roar, but forgot like the Supers Wolf hardly sounds a thing like Jungle Hunter. Not like they had nothing to choose from, we've been using that gif of him roaring at Chet on the forums, use that one.
I also think they broke the A.I this update. None of the A.I attacked me and I was standing right in front of Dutch. I know they can run out of ammo but I made a B line to them at the start of the match. I gotta wonder if they half-assed the update thinking they're about to loose another license and found out they had to release it anyways when Disney won out.
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Looks so much better it's not even funny.
AVP 2010 did Wolf better.
3 months for Minor bugs fixes, getting half of backwater map back, buff to plasma Pistol and an medíocre representation of my boy Wolf on the game.
Spoiler
From Illfonic forums this gives a good idea about the reception:
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Patch 2.36 has to be the most sad addition/change to this game I have ever seen in the 2 Years of playing. After 10+ months of some of the worst balance in a multiplayer game I have ever bore witness to you promised you'd be taking the extra time of working on this Update and delaying it by an additional month, what you have put out has not made a change to the foundations of this game and its atrocious META we have had to suffer with for the past year. All you have done is buff a single ranged weapon. This changes nothing. It does not affect the game in any meaningful way.
You haven't even fixed major bugs & missing features. The Warpaints in the Predator Crate you LEGALLY PROMISED would be released to the Public by December of 2021 are still not out and we are in March of 2022. The Exiled's Predlocks are still not in the game, people paid for that. And speaking of paid Content.
What the Hell is Wolf. How did you do this. His model is probably more unfinished than even the Super Predators were. His face is wrong. There's no netting on him. He doesn't even have a unique skin pattern listed. All of his other skin patterns are glitched and mesh with his armor. His armor is using Captured's textures and is way too bright. His mask doesn't react to lighting at all and appears pitch black at times, and also is modelled wrong too. At the very least you remembered to include unique Predlocks this time and they're seemingly not glitching out like Black's were so hey, Predlocks guy earned a pay check I guess. You didn't even bother to give him any unique weapon or even a gear item like EVERY OTHER DLC. No Plasma Pistol Skin. No Shurikens, which we know are in the Files, not even Laser Tripmines which BTW you haven't added a new Gear item in like 9 months FYI.
This is the shit that breaks people. 3 months after promises of big balance changes and quality content and you release this. I basically paid £3 for a Mask I wanted for my Scout since Launch and better Predlocks, because the character sure as hell ain't worth it despite being possibly THE most requested character for the game aside from Scarface which I dread to think of what you'd do to him at this point. I mean seriously, Wolf is a Scout with Zerk tier Stamina and no Bullet Resistance. Who codes this stuff, who decides these stats. This is why we can't have nice things.
I worked in game dev, I know shit can be rough, I know development can be hard. This is why I spent 2 years defending you guys and taking shit from everyone else for it, I let many things slide that I personally know from first hand experience would have gotten you fired at any other company because I thought the game was fun and had potential and I knew you were a small studio. But you have been on this game for 2 years and you have people, LOYAL people, who have been playing from the BETA, who pre-ordered and were here since Midnight launch of the game telling you over & over everything wrong with how this game plays from its atrocious balancing & buggy systems and you have learnt nothing in those two years. There has been no meaningful changes in those two years. We have to practically force you to even look at weapons because half of you don't even play the game and those that do aren't even good at it, OKH didn't even know that Predator bodies stayed on the map if they Disconnect. HOW? He helped develop the game!
I'm not gonna sit here and ask for my money back, I honestly can't even be arsed and it was £3 I've bought pizzas more expensive. But it was Wolf. And it was an update you took 3 months to put out. And it was nothing. I'm sorry, under no circumstance is this output acceptable, at all. And even optimistic players who would defend you from everyone else are just now sick & tired of this. Fix your game, balance this game for the love of god, make sure a model is actually FUNCTIONAL and feature complete before you sell it.
I'm going back to Elden Ring, this is just too much of a pain in the ass to keep up with. I was there for your Beta, I was there at Launch, I've literally bought every single DLC and probably spent something close to £210 on your game in total. What you have provided thus far is not adequate service and today was pretty insulting. I know as a Former Dev myself that people deserve better and you should do better.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 03, 2022, 09:50:48 PM
Also. netting is missing and one of the eyes isn't blind.
Yeah, I noticed that too !
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 04, 2022, 01:45:37 AM
Also holy SHIT is Wolf off model. The mask specifically needs to be squished in the middle and pulled down if that makes sense. The "mouth plate" does have a flat section at the top and the bottom needs to be brought up more.
And in turn Wolf himself looks like he's wearing a mediocre cosplay version of his own armor. Seriously why are his gauntlets so damn big?
Honestly as has been pointed out this mask looks more accurate to the shape:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603438127314632704/949070220205625354/IMG_20220303_192558.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603438127314632704/949251752228691998/20220304032606_1.jpg)
Good God that looks pretty awful.
ElitistSolid from the Discord group did a quick reshape of the mask and also enlarged the caster, it looks more accurate:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603438127314632704/949269881252093963/Picsart_22-03-04_08-38-31-119.jpg)
In game:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603438127314632704/949251752228691998/20220304032606_1.jpg)
I'm genuinely impressed they botched the mask so badly. The face I understand, but the mask is pretty bad. I understand Requiem is dark, but Wolf merchandise has been floating around for over a decade + since. I own the damn artbook and even then Wolf's helmet is plastered on the front of the DVD. None of them bothered to look to Hot Toys, Titan's usage of Wolf on the book covers, or the Sideshow mask, how Rebellion did their Wolf (the people who even did the tie-in game no less), or even Neca. I'm not expecting it to be perfect but there's little excuse for them to be off model so much here. And yeah, the full armor doesn't look great but Wolf's mask is a huge turn off and that's pretty much the only new content here beyond dreads.
And really whoever was in charge of approvals needs to get ones collective shit together. The Super Predators looked bad, they didn't get Captured right in the slightest, and now Wolf. Like it can't be just Illfonic. Someone had to have been in charge of approving this at Fox.
Finally.
Finally everyone can begin to understand my pain I was experiencing a year and a half ago with the City Ducker (aka Ducky Hunter).
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Now regarding Wolf, my strict policy towards that DLC is - no whip / no buy.
(Who am I kidding, of course I bought it.)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 04, 2022, 02:14:03 PM
Finally.
Finally everyone can begin to understand my pain I was experiencing a year and a half ago with the City Ducker (aka Ducky Hunter).
(https://i.ibb.co/JcB56BG/IMG-20200728-130735.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/HnrPdjx/unnamed-3.png)
Now regarding Wolf, my strict policy towards that DLC is - no whip / no buy.
(Who am I kidding, of course I bought it.)
Given the blu-ray cover I really should've taken it as a sign they'd screw the mask up. The blu-ray was warning us the whole time.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51vuncZTWrL.jpg)
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 04, 2022, 11:50:59 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 04, 2022, 02:14:03 PM
Finally.
Finally everyone can begin to understand my pain I was experiencing a year and a half ago with the City Ducker (aka Ducky Hunter).
(https://i.ibb.co/JcB56BG/IMG-20200728-130735.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/HnrPdjx/unnamed-3.png)
Now regarding Wolf, my strict policy towards that DLC is - no whip / no buy.
(Who am I kidding, of course I bought it.)
Given the blu-ray cover I really should've taken it as a sign they'd screw the mask up. The blu-ray was warning us the whole time.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51vuncZTWrL.jpg
Hah, very true!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 04, 2022, 02:14:03 PM
Finally.
Finally everyone can begin to understand my pain I was experiencing a year and a half ago with the City Ducker (aka Ducky Hunter).
I thought you might get some karmic satisfaction from this.
But yeah, back then I agreed that the City Hunter could've used some mask tweaks but I didn't see it as a big deal. What I failed to realize is that when you have a favorite Predator, even small variations can seem quite off. I have more sympathy in regards to City Ducker now.
City Hunter is my favourite as well ! Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't think CH looked as off while with Wolf I thought right away "Ok, something is wrong here"
Yeah overall City Hunter looks a lot better than Wolf. It was really only the bottom of the mask that looked really "off" with him, but with Wolf it's the mask, the colour, the lack of netting, one of the eyes not being white, the scarring looking very minimal etc. Definitely a lot more annoying little inaccuracies here, for sure.
Captured and Wolf particularly annoy me. They literally didn't even try to get Captured right but Wolf looks like an attempt was at least made. I'm kind of worried now they're gonna botch Celtic. Who is approving this stuff? You'd think someone in the process would've stopped this or at least had gotten them some outsourced help.
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I also encountered a bug last night when Wolf's wristblades just wouldn't do any damage whatsoever, as well as the icons for jumping to trees disappearing for a while. And checking on Illfonic's forums, apparently I'm not the only one who's run into that problem.
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 05, 2022, 04:26:38 PM
I also encountered a bug last night when Wolf's wristblades just wouldn't do any damage whatsoever, as well as the icons for jumping to trees disappearing for a while. And checking on Illfonic's forums, apparently I'm not the only one who's run into that problem.
Yep, having the same issue myself.
ILLFONIIIIIIC!!!
Well he spent most of the movie using plasma, guess Illfonic wants us to that on the game as well.
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 05, 2022, 09:41:09 AM
City Hunter is my favourite as well ! Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't think CH looked as off while with Wolf I thought right away "Ok, something is wrong here"
All that ganja makin' ya blind, mon!
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(https://i.ibb.co/SwRKTch/IMG-20220306-095706.jpg)
The CH bio-mask is supposed to be more sloped from top to bottom where when he looks straight at you, it's narrower. Where the mask meets the mandibles it should be narrower too.
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 05, 2022, 01:50:23 PM
Yeah overall City Hunter looks a lot better than Wolf. It was really only the bottom of the mask that looked really "off" with him
Indeed. It's more vintage Cylon shaped at the bottom than City Hunter.
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I'm not impressed with Wolf, just looks off.
Still hoping for some kind of "Trophy Room" or "Stats" feature.
At least something to track the achievements.
This was released for Aliens: Fireteam Elite as a DLC for great effect.