Hey guys,
I'm a new part of the community and got my hands on some quite exciting news.
Someone I know very well works as a VFX Artist at Weta. They are currently in the early stages of pre-production, as the script is still being revised.
Weta Digital and Weta Workshops are currently creating concept designs and sculptures/maquettes to give Noah Hawley and the producers some visual responses for the world-building.
Apparently, there are several alternatives to the classic Xenomorph design. They are playing with alternative ideas on the classic alien lifecycle, which is more "human-like" but still body horror. The overall theme explores the question of gender and identity, this reflects on some of the new designs.
This is what he showed me, thanks to working from home :D Let me know what you think
Obviously no way to validate this as being true (and given the nature of it as a leak, I wouldn't be shocked to see it end up getting deleted one way or the other... so I've already saved it to keep it on hand ;) ) but, just to play devil's advocate here and give it the time of day.... The idea of there being various 'alternative' Alien iterations concocted in a lab by humans experimenting with the 'Perfect Organism' (much like there were in Resurrection, and like there would have been in Blomkamp's film) doesn't quite shock me here, given the nature of this series and the focus on various corporations manipulating tech that will surely be directly related to the Aliens. Now if this is a real concept, it could very well be from a stage in pre-production where they're just throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks, and not actually representative of any of the designs that actually end up in the series.
Anyways, looking at this, it is absolutely intriguing. Fleshy, but also keeping the biomechanical elements of the original creature. A bit spindly, like Covenant's iteration. I also get a bit of a sense of Species' Sil, in the ribs and arms. Definitely feels like it could be some various offshoot of the proper Alien, with perhaps too much human DNA mixed in with the Alien's.
The lips almost remind me a bit of:
(https://bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/alien3eroticdesign6.jpg)
Quote from: anibo on Jan 23, 2022, 11:03:37 PM
Hey guys,
I'm a new part of the community and got my hands on some quite exciting news.
Someone I know very well works as a VFX Artist at Weta. They are currently in the early stages of pre-production, as the script is still being revised.
Weta Digital and Weta Workshops are currently creating concept designs and sculptures/maquettes to give Noah Hawley and the producers some visual responses for the world-building.
Apparently, there are several alternatives to the classic Xenomorph design. They are playing with alternative ideas on the classic alien lifecycle, which is more "human-like" but still body horror. The overall theme explores the question of gender and identity, this reflects on some of the new designs.
This is what he showed me, thanks to working from home :D Let me know what you think
Welcome to the community forum!
Yeah, definitely reminiscent of the original Alien³ Giger design. From what we know they're still experimenting with the Alien designs, so I could see this as one of the concepts they came up with. Typically studios will just go wild a bit during the design phase.
If the Weta folks are reading the forums:
Hi.
This is neat. But not exactly "IT", yet. Keep going. :laugh:
Quite like the head.
Chest area.. erhmmmm...
Quote from: skhellter on Jan 24, 2022, 12:52:01 AM
This is neat. But not exactly "IT", yet. Keep going. :laugh:
"Idle hands are the devil's workshop, Captain."
This looks strangely familiar... I've a feeling it's an existing original statue.
If it's not, can't say I'm at all a fan of that aesthetic. The womanly lips never made sense for the A3 design and trying to make feminine eyes out of tendons doesn't improve them.
Remove any traits from it which are too obviously human in origin. This should be an opportunity to move away from that.
They should totally lock that design in. People loved the Newborn.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jan 24, 2022, 01:10:50 AM
This looks strangely familiar... I've a feeling it's an existing original statue.
I've reversed and Sauced it, but no hits.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 24, 2022, 01:25:26 AM
They should totally lock that design in. People loved the Newborn.
I think I'd actually prefer this over the actual Newborn. But as a normal Alien? No, thanks.
Looks a lot like Covenant's beast with some tweaks. I dig it and wouldn't be opposed to see it in the final show
Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm also not too sure about the design and the direction....Not sure how much we will see it though. Here is a close-up I found on my phone
It's a lady alien. Lips n nips. Er. Not terrible, but not exactly something I'd give the green light to.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jan 24, 2022, 01:10:50 AM
This looks strangely familiar... I've a feeling it's an existing original statue.
Looks like a ZBrush sculpt to me. Done by a technically proficient artist.
I love it personally wouldn't mind it if this was the direction they took
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 24, 2022, 06:50:56 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 24, 2022, 01:25:26 AM
They should totally lock that design in. People loved the Newborn.
I think I'd actually prefer this over the actual Newborn. But as a normal Alien? No, thanks.
I can't imagine this would be a redesign for
the traditional Alien, given what seems to be going on with the corporations and their aspirations in the show. But as a potential hybridization/offshoot, a la the Newborn? This – or something akin to it – has me potentially intrigued.
yah this will definitely be another hybrid creature of sorts.
Sure, just improve the overall design a fair bit to make it more elegant... [the chest needs a lot of work]
I was saying this was all feeling a bit Alien Resurrection when the character details leaked.. and lo and behold...
Any other bits of concept art that you can share, Anibo?
From a different alien?
Doesn't make much sense, but I wonder if there are human-engineer hybrids in the series.
Quote from: skhellter on Jan 24, 2022, 01:25:27 PM
yah this will definitely be another hybrid creature of sorts.
Sure, just improve the overall design a fair bit to make it more elegant... [the chest needs a lot of work]
I was saying this was all feeling a bit Alien Resurrection when the character details leaked.. and lo and behold...
Any other bits of concept art that you can share, Anibo?
From a different alien?
that's all I have I'm afraid, it's just a screenshot
thanks, anyway.
If this is a Blue Marsalis thang, the more I look at it, the more I think I'm really digging it.
No thanks. Keep that for the books
Hope this is a xenomorph variant kinda like the new born instead of a standard xenomorph
I could actually see something akin to Into Charybdis' iteration of Blue Marsalis factoring into this, given the "transhuman" elements at play here (and the previously mentioned "Hybrids," which are presumably human/synthetic hybrids but who's to say there aren't some biomechanics of more extraterrestrial origin in that particular soup?).
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Jan 24, 2022, 04:42:13 PM
Hope this is a xenomorph variant kinda like the new born instead of a standard xenomorph
I meant isnt insted of is
maybe they'll tie in the show with the Goddess subplot of the marvel ongoing comic if were getting more female variants
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Jan 24, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
maybe they'll tie in the show with the Goddess subplot of the marvel ongoing comic if were getting more female variants
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I rhink the godess in the marvel comics is a rouge unit of mother a.i due to the fact they call the godess mother and the dude turing out to be a android
Quote from: Bughuntwilson on Jan 24, 2022, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Jan 24, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
maybe they'll tie in the show with the Goddess subplot of the marvel ongoing comic if were getting more female variants
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I rhink the godess in the marvel comics is a rouge unit of mother a.i due to the fact they call the godess mother and the dude turing out to be a android
I could see that but theres a lot of questions still about the goddess that may play into this. Im probably wrong thou
I'd imagine that's probably a mystery for the comics, made to stay within those comics. And it should be that way.
If there's anything from the comics that I'd imagine might have been drawn from notes about this series, it's the mention/setup of some kind of looming android rebellion. Though even that is an idea that's existed within this franchise (via the Autons) as far back as Resurrection.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 24, 2022, 08:53:29 PM
I'd imagine that's probably a mystery for the comics, made to stay within those comics. And it should be that way.
If there's anything from the comics that I'd imagine might have been drawn from notes about this series, it's the mention/setup of some kind of looming android rebellion. Though even that is an idea that's existed within this franchise (via the Autons) as far back as Resurrection.
I like your theory that this is some type of hybrid that involes synthetic hopefull thats the case instead of this being a redesign of the standard xeno
AUTO REVOLUTION HYPEEEEEE
..said nobody. :laugh:
I was expecting this film to kick Resurrection out of canon but if it respects it.... thumbs up, tbh.
Never mind Luke Scott. Get Jeunet in here to direct an episode or two, and let him lather everything in a heavy layer of slime. For old time's sake.
Quote from: skhellter on Jan 24, 2022, 09:15:05 PM
AUTO REVOLUTION HYPEEEEEE
..said nobody. :laugh:
I was expecting this film to kick Resurrection out of canon but if it respects it.... thumbs up, tbh.
Hopefull we have a heavy focus on the xenomorph instead of the syntheics
I'd be impressed if it was actually the "auton uprising", but the "near future" aspect kind of kills that idea.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 24, 2022, 10:08:27 PM
I'd be impressed if it was actually the "auton uprising", but the "near future" aspect kind of kills that idea.
Yeah beside being set on earth the 2nd thing that will bug me is that near future hopefully they dont set a couple decades in the future
Not a fan. And more fleshy than mechanical, again.
Also, what's the point of a hybrid when the originals already were that?, the alien was extraterrestrial ADN that "upgraded" the original host body structure to perfection, to the point of being able to survive even in a vacuum.
Quote from: tralaritralara on Jan 25, 2022, 05:21:36 PM
Also, what's the point of a hybrid when the originals already were that?
Presumably, as in previous cases of similar things happening (a la
Alien: Resurrection, and a great many comics and novels), I'd imagine it is humanity's attempt at controlling something that is so obviously beyond our control. An attempt to retrofit/reverse engineer it, to make it more like us, to try to make it a weapon or something we can connect/respond to (
"cyborg enhancements or transhuman downloads") for whatever purposes Weyland-Yutani/Prodigy/etc. has in mind.
I don't see any attempts at messing with what the Alien is, on humanity's part, as an "upgrade," but rather, as humanity's way of manipulating/bastardizing the "Perfect Organism" and trying to make the Alien something that will work
for us, which will always be doomed to fail.
Even going back to
Prometheus' exploration of pre-history, the Engineers' attempt at controlling/working with the raw material of the Alien, the black goo Pathogen, is something that blew up in their faces and left their entire facility on LV-223 in ruins with only one survivor tucked away in stasis. Be it the Engineers or humanity (or Hell, probably even David if
Covenant ever gets its followup), you can only push this stuff so far (in any form) before it turns right back around and breaks free, takes control, and leaves everything around you in total ruin.
Tbh, I'm a little worn out on whole "hybrids" thing as well. Looks like every piece of new Alien media gotta have one. I may be exaggerating but that's how it seems to me. I just want good old Aliens tearing people apart, is that too much to ask ?
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 25, 2022, 05:47:33 PM
Tbh, I'm a little worn out on whole "hybrids" thing as well. Looks like every piece of new Alien media gotta have one. I may be exaggerating but that's how it seems to me. I just want good old Aliens tearing people apart, is that too much to ask ?
At least we aren't yet in full Kenner mode? :D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/blomkamp-concept-030-farzad-vrahramyan.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/blomkamp-concept-031-farzad-vrahramyan.jpg)
Hopefully the "cyborg" stuff doesn't
quite just become Atax. ;)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/elevator-1920x1117.jpg)
(https://www.lulu-berlu.com/upload/image/aliens---kenner---space-marine-atax--loose--p-image-350554-grande.jpg)
Well, I hope. These you posted may be suitable for a dream/nightmare sequence though
This must be left for posterity. The Kenner Legacy! :laugh:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/454df05a-c590-4bd7-b3a0-734b0f26c6ac/d5lonet-2cb6c8e0-5611-4319-a593-d8c7651d4f41.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzQ1NGRmMDVhLWM1OTAtNGJkNy1iM2EwLTczNGIwZjI2YzZhY1wvZDVsb25ldC0yY2I2YzhlMC01NjExLTQzMTktYTU5My1kOGM3NjUxZDRmNDEuZ2lmIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.VZ5uz64xn2YCcZjMQ_QHm94ole0mY-wk3wvZ4WWKorU)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 25, 2022, 06:33:46 PM
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/454df05a-c590-4bd7-b3a0-734b0f26c6ac/d5lonet-2cb6c8e0-5611-4319-a593-d8c7651d4f41.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzQ1NGRmMDVhLWM1OTAtNGJkNy1iM2EwLTczNGIwZjI2YzZhY1wvZDVsb25ldC0yY2I2YzhlMC01NjExLTQzMTktYTU5My1kOGM3NjUxZDRmNDEuZ2lmIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.VZ5uz64xn2YCcZjMQ_QHm94ole0mY-wk3wvZ4WWKorU
Where did this gif came from?
IIRC it's the costume/effect test footage from the Blu-ray.
Yep! As seen in the Furious Gods documentary that comes on the bonus disc from the four disc, 3D/standard Blu-ray combo release of the film, if I recall correctly. If not in the doc itself, then on another string of bonus features on that very same disc.
I still think the Engineers looked creepy as f**k. Those completely black eyes.
It's an interesting variant, but I wouldn't be happy to see it replace the original design. As I said before...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 12, 2022, 01:09:44 AMYeesh, all this optimism. Watch them reward you all by changing everything...
Brace yourselves.
So, remind me, what ice cream flavour is your favourite ?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 25, 2022, 10:15:28 PM
I still think the Engineers looked creepy as f**k. Those completely black eyes.
When you say creepy, do you really mean sexy?
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/51/80/14/51801469897c7cf3e3e0c3d84d7d2a8a--sci-fi-movies-movie-tv.jpg)
What you have just said lead me to a funny thought:
Spoiler
Is Engineers' semen black too ? Is that real source of Black Goo ?
The photo of a new design looks as if it has elderly man's manboobs not too dissiimilar to Alien Resurrection's newborn
Maybe they secrete acid milk
Mr H is talking about this thread...
What are your thoughts on the skull?
I don't see one. It's completely opaque.
Yet another fruitless attempt to reinvent the perfection of Giger's wheel, there.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 25, 2022, 10:34:20 PM
When you say creepy, do you really mean sexy?
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/51/80/14/51801469897c7cf3e3e0c3d84d7d2a8a--sci-fi-movies-movie-tv.jpg)
Sexy Squidward.
Still moving away from the biomechanoid look. Wasn't there an admission from the Covenant artists that the biomechanoid style was protected by Giger's estate?
Maybe this:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/podcasts/avpg_pc_episode52.mp3
Quote from: St_Eddie on Jan 26, 2022, 02:28:56 AM
Yet another fruitless attempt to reinvent the perfection of Giger's wheel, there.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 25, 2022, 10:34:20 PM
When you say creepy, do you really mean sexy?
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/51/80/14/51801469897c7cf3e3e0c3d84d7d2a8a--sci-fi-movies-movie-tv.jpg)
Sexy Squidward.
Jokes on you i am into that
Quote from: TC on Jan 26, 2022, 03:16:21 AM
Still moving away from the biomechanoid look. Wasn't there an admission from the Covenant artists that the biomechanoid style was protected by Giger's estate?
Maybe this:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/podcasts/avpg_pc_episode52.mp3
I actually see slightly more emphasis on bio
mechanics here than in
Covenant's Alien, at least with the defined tubing on the arms in this particular design.
In
Covenant, there was a deliberate choice to steer away from the mechanical elements in order to present the Alien as an unfinished work-in-progress. Not sure if estate disputes directly factored into that or not, but there was a narrative-based rationale for that particular design decision.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 26, 2022, 03:34:39 AM
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I actually see slightly more emphasis on biomechanics here than in Covenant's Alien, at least with the defined tubing on the arms in this particular design.
...
Do you mean the ribbing on the bicep area? Hmmm, OK.
The back pipes have become more like tentacles. Maybe they should simply be removed...
Overall, I like it. Or rather, I'm open to it. But it's still just a concept image; I'm really more interested in how the script makes them behave--like a predatory, savage beast (as is the established custom), or more ghoulish and creepy?
TC
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 25, 2022, 10:34:20 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 25, 2022, 10:15:28 PM
I still think the Engineers looked creepy as f**k. Those completely black eyes.
When you say creepy, do you really mean sexy?
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/51/80/14/51801469897c7cf3e3e0c3d84d7d2a8a--sci-fi-movies-movie-tv.jpg)
Nope! Definitely mean creepy.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/prometheus-bluray-0921.jpg)
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So the more I look at this, particularly the close up, the more I like it. Not as a replacement for the Alien, but as an off-shoot. As a genetic experiment, or SiL, or Blue Marsalis, I really do like this. I especially like those tendons around the mouth. Just drop the boobs and I'm happy.
Quote from: TC on Jan 26, 2022, 03:16:21 AM
Still moving away from the biomechanoid look. Wasn't there an admission from the Covenant artists that the biomechanoid style was protected by Giger's estate?
Maybe this:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/podcasts/avpg_pc_episode52.mp3
No, all aspects relating to the Alien that Giger designed for the original film and Alien 3 is available for 20th/fox/disney to exploit. What they can't do is use any of Giger's other paintings without the permission of his estate. That was made very clear to Carlos Huante, Wayne Haag etc. by Fox's legal dept.
Covenant production designer, Chris Seegers said that they were sort of "edging" into the biomechanical aspects with the prequels, so we would likely have seen that in a third film.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 26, 2022, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: TC on Jan 26, 2022, 03:16:21 AM
Still moving away from the biomechanoid look. Wasn't there an admission from the Covenant artists that the biomechanoid style was protected by Giger's estate?
Maybe this:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/podcasts/avpg_pc_episode52.mp3
No, all aspects relating to the Alien that Giger designed for the original film and Alien 3 is available for 20th/fox/disney to exploit. What they can't do is use any of Giger's other paintings without the permission of his estate. That was made very clear to Carlos Huante, Wayne Haag etc. by Fox's legal dept.
Covenant production designer, Chris Seegers said that they were sort of "edging" into the biomechanical aspects with the prequels, so we would likely have seen that in a third film.
urgh, so we are not seeing the 1.0 version of the alien already fused with engineer's tech, which I think the story was heading to?, (when engineers return to covenants planet they discover David's creation, and it impresses them so much they upgrade it with their tech, just like they do with their own bodies with those pressure and space jockey suits).
Well, that if we ever see the third prequel, to begin with..
I'm not a big fan of the saggy breasts but this design out-Gigers Giger
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2022, 09:33:02 AMSo the more I look at this, particularly the close up, the more I like it. Not as a replacement for the Alien, but as an off-shoot. As a genetic experiment, or SiL, or Blue Marsalis, I really do like this.
Great minds think alike!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 24, 2022, 01:57:28 PM
If this is a Blue Marsalis thang, the more I look at it, the more I think I'm really digging it.
QuoteJust drop the boobs and I'm happy.
But think of all the fan "art" this will inspire. :laugh:
I also like that it's not a bug and looks elegant. I can't imagine this design jumping around like a deranged cricket.
Quote from: Kane's other son on Jan 26, 2022, 06:52:56 PM
I also like that it's not a bug and looks elegant. I can't imagine this design jumping around like a deranged cricket.
I'm trying to conceptualize a deranged cricket... :laugh:
Can't speak for deranged crickets, but I love our very own angry stick bug. :D
(https://www.scified.com/topics/6319653552923624.gif)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 26, 2022, 03:57:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2022, 09:33:02 AMSo the more I look at this, particularly the close up, the more I like it. Not as a replacement for the Alien, but as an off-shoot. As a genetic experiment, or SiL, or Blue Marsalis, I really do like this.
Great minds think alike!
Feminine lips was a good design choice :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/vVQkScZ/Pics-Art-01-26-07-22-19.jpg)
In a Giger painting ? Sure. On an actual Xenomorph ? Not sure about that
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 26, 2022, 10:30:01 PM
In a Giger painting ? Sure. On an actual Xenomorph ? Not sure about that
The heart wants what the heart wants...
(https://i1.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/AlienDourif.jpg?fit=449%2C%209999&crop=0%2C0%2C100%2C257px)
Looks weird, like something you wouldn't get in a safe retread of Aliens.
Bring it on.
(Also, I hope nobody at Weta is in trouble over this leak...)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 26, 2022, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 26, 2022, 10:30:01 PM
In a Giger painting ? Sure. On an actual Xenomorph ? Not sure about that
The heart wants what the heart wants...
https://i1.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/AlienDourif.jpg?fit=449%2C%209999&crop=0%2C0%2C100%2C257px
We all know somebody going to be using this as shower material its only a matter of time
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 26, 2022, 07:34:25 PM
Can't speak for deranged crickets, but I love our very own angry stick bug. :D
https://www.scified.com/topics/6319653552923624.gif
If there was something I could never stand, starting by A L I E N S, was showing the human born alien on its fours, like a bug, and that covenant scene in particular is one of those I hate the most in the franchise.
How much better this movie would have fared if the alien was put on screen this way mostly, like a human.., like in the first film, off center and difficult to see properly:
(https://i.ibb.co/PxVgtrK/sdfsgsgs.png) (https://ibb.co/G7rRFdy)
Perhaps the greatest price the creature had to pay since the sequel to the first movie. The alien turned into the starship troppers arachnid.
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 26, 2022, 10:30:01 PM
In a Giger painting ? Sure. On an actual Xenomorph ? Not sure about that
As THE Xenomorph? No. As another type of, yes, quite happily.
Quote from: tralaritralara on Jan 27, 2022, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 26, 2022, 07:34:25 PM
Can't speak for deranged crickets, but I love our very own angry stick bug. :D
https://www.scified.com/topics/6319653552923624.gif
If there was something I could never stand, starting by A L I E N S, was showing the human born alien on its fours, like a bug, and that covenant scene in particular is one of those I hate the most in the franchise.
How much better this movie would have fared if the alien was put on screen this way mostly, like a human.., like in the first film, off center and difficult to see properly:
(https://i.ibb.co/PxVgtrK/sdfsgsgs.png) (https://ibb.co/G7rRFdy)
Perhaps the greatest price the creature had to pay since the sequel to the first movie. The alien turned into the starship troppers arachnid.
That scene is the best the Alien looks in Covenant IMHO. It's so creepy. I don't mind seeing them on all fours or moving around insectile-like - the movement in Aliens is fantastic - as long as they've given a good level of intelligence in their portrayal.
And I was wondering why something like this didn't end up on the front page. :laugh:
I wont report on "leaks" unless our sources can verify or I'm confident in it. I wasn't here and there we go! Just glad it didn't go in too long and someone reached out to him.
Nah, they're deceiving us. Watch this design show up when the series comes out
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/01042011_01.jpg)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 27, 2022, 06:14:45 PM
I wont report on "leaks" unless our sources can verify or I'm confident in it. We're not Sci-fied! Just glad it didn't go in too long and someone reached out to him.
FTFY
Has the OP been shown to the airlock?
(https://i.imgur.com/AJUfoGi.jpg)
Quote from: anibo on Jan 23, 2022, 11:03:37 PM
Hey guys,
I'm a new part of the community and got my hands on some quite exciting news.
Someone I know very well works as a VFX Artist at Weta. They are currently in the early stages of pre-production, as the script is still being revised.
Weta Digital and Weta Workshops are currently creating concept designs and sculptures/maquettes to give Noah Hawley and the producers some visual responses for the world-building.
Apparently, there are several alternatives to the classic Xenomorph design. They are playing with alternative ideas on the classic alien lifecycle, which is more "human-like" but still body horror. The overall theme explores the question of gender and identity, this reflects on some of the new designs.
This is what he showed me, thanks to working from home :D Let me know what you think
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Here's the Instagram of the guy that did do the piece. You can see it in a more finished state here:
The guy is a professional artist (he did work on the suit in the upcoming
Moon Knight series), which definitely explains the level of technical quality present in the design (regardless of whether the design actually works for you or not). This must have been something he was doing for fun on the side, and an early version fell into the wrong hands (maybe one of his followers nicked it somehow?) because someone wanted to have some fun with it online.
Very heavy Covenant's Alien influence
We got lol'd
At least my initial analyses was correct:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 24, 2022, 11:52:04 AM
Looks like a ZBrush sculpt to me. Done by a technically proficient artist.
WIP:
I'm very glad this is fake. It would fit in theme, but if it was the only design in a series.....ugh.
It's excellent in a vacuum though.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 27, 2022, 06:22:56 PM
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I knew revenge would come one day :laugh:
Naturally, I'm not 100% sure on whether "updating" the original design is something to be concerned about, especially adding an subtle gender-orientated feature like feminine lips (especially in today's day and age) especially since Ridley himself stated their nongendered, but i'll leave that at the door.
The original design is fearsome in it's own right, further enhanced by Aliens and the introduction of the Xeno Queen (and the obvious non-canon Kenner toyline and comic variants, xeno prime, etc); If they can explain the changes via genetic manipulation, or how the xeno can acclimatise to it's surroundings based purely on instinct and survival in semi-fashionable Giger style, then awesome! I can imagine WY pulling a vault-tec style experiment and raising a xeno embryo in a human male/female dominated enclosure to see how it evolves to it's environment with minimal danger present.
Don't like the humanoid mouth 👄. It's off putting . Rest of it is good
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 27, 2022, 06:22:56 PM
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That was deliberate. :P and lasted a whole day.
Quote from: skhellter on Jan 24, 2022, 12:52:01 AMIf the Weta folks are reading the forums:
Hi.
This is neat. But not exactly "IT", yet. Keep going. :laugh:
Quite like the head.
Chest area.. erhmmmm...
Would also welcome the WETA folk, with the proviso that the Lions suck, you know it!
The lions?
Huh ?
The lions, the tigers... oh my
That's. . Predator 2 quote, yes, I recognise it. Still fail to see the connection
It's like a lion. Sticks close to the zebras.
Zebras? Oh right...
I only want femme lips on the Alien if they're going to bring back Giger's ideas for Alien 3 with the new barbed tongue tearing peoples guts out with a "kiss of death." Which is still such an awesome idea to me. I love the idea of someone being "seduced" by the alien, or put into some kind of a trance. Weird stuff like that can add just the right kind of spice if done right. Especially if there's some mad body-horror mad-science going on. A little David Cronenburg, a little "Splice."
Quote from: OpenMaw on Sep 15, 2022, 04:55:47 AMor put into some kind of a trance
That's something that the RPG did I that really liked. That the Alien was capable of hypnotizing you via hormones (or something like that).
Was david cronenberg ever considered or shown interest in the Alien franchise? I loved the style of his old movies even though I find a lot of his films to be a little slow and boring there was always something about it that I enjoyed, it always feels uncomfortable and I always felt bad (in a good way) when it was done, Dead ringers is a perfect example, its every good and well made (Jeramy Irons plays twin gynaecologists that are sharing the same patient/girlfriend and are both suffering from drug addiction and and other mental illnesses) but but it it leaves you with an uneasy unless feeling by the end.
Quote from: bobcunk on Jan 12, 2023, 12:40:45 AMWas david cronenberg ever considered or shown interest in the Alien franchise?
He was considered for
Alien: Resurrection, but turned it down.
If they were working in 1996 and you think "Was this person ever considered...." the answer is "yes".
What I wouldn't give to see what David Cronenberg would have done with an Alien movie.
Newer talent like Hawley and Alvarez are getting opportunities from studios right now. Maybe his son Brandon Cronenberg will get to take a crack at it at some point. I quite liked his film Possessor, and I'm looking forward to his new film Infinity Pool.
David Cronenberg bores me, not sad we did not get an Alien film from him.
Wasn't he pretty negative about Alien and accusing Ridley and Co. of plagiarism ?
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https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/what-debt-does-alien-owe-david-cronenberg-s-shivers/
Shivers is interesting.
No, it's no classic.
Cronenberg's still got it, IMO. Crimes of the Future was actually one of my favorite movies of last year, and I'm curious to see what he has up his sleeve next.
I haven't seen any of his son's stuff yet.
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 13, 2023, 09:41:05 AMWasn't he pretty negative about Alien and accusing Ridley and Co. of plagiarism ?
I recall watching a recent video of him going through a video store and talking about random movies on the shelf, and he picked up
Alien and alluded to it's similarities to
Shivers. But it had a very much passive/joking tone rather than a overt accusation one. But maybe he was more harsh in the past and has lightened up on it over the years.
(As I was typing this I went and tracked down the video, Alien part starts at about 6:45 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veBhrS9Dkmk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veBhrS9Dkmk))
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 13, 2023, 03:27:09 PMCronenberg's still got it, IMO. Crimes of the Future was actually one of my favorite movies of last year, and I'm curious to see what he has up his sleeve next.
I haven't seen any of his son's stuff yet.
I agree! Crimes of the Future was in my top 3 from last year, I very much enjoyed it! I think I read that he has another film that's going to start on production or shooting soon.
I recommend checking out
Possessor from his son. Seems to be following in his dads footsteps in a lot of ways stylistically. I've heard good things about his film
Antiviral too, but I haven't checked it out yet.
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Jan 13, 2023, 06:54:29 PMI recommend checking out Possessor from his son. Seems to be following in his dads footsteps in a lot of ways stylistically.
Good movie. I haven't seen Possessor Uncut though.
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Jan 13, 2023, 06:54:29 PMI've heard good things about his film Antiviral too, but I haven't checked it out yet.
Whoa I need to cheched out that one too😲
Looks really cool, I hope they stay with this design or something similar.
It looks alright imo, and it's not official.
I think you could argue that Alien definitely yoinked ideas from other stories. I went out and bought planet of the vampires just because of how close I heard Alien followed it thinking, "thats bs no almost 80's movie is going to borrow from a 60s foreign language movie." And boy was I mistaken. The first half of Alien is almost identical to POV first half.
From there it supposedly takes its cues from IT! The Terror from beyond space.
Alien really only revolutionized the creature design, and it's lifecycle. The lifecycle actually allowed the crew to bring the monster on the ship vs it just snuck in trope. Even the used future was done before in SW. The realistic dialogue also helps it. Alien was just filmed better than those other movies, had a better monster, better set design, more realistic dialogue.
O'Bannon flat out said "I didn't steal Alien from anyone, I stole it from everyone."
The life cycle was the actual innovation of the story. Everything else is a generic monster on a spaceship movie. It was just executed better.
I thought the only genuinely original idea they had was acidic blood ?
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 11, 2023, 10:45:41 AMI thought the only genuinely original idea they had was acidic blood ?
No, the face hugger and chest bursting was the real game changer. Acid blood was also novel for an excuse why they couldn't shoot the thing (most movies just said "bullet proof") but the life cycle is why Fox bought the script.