Posted by Voodoo Magic
- Dec 14, 2021, 09:07:21 PMInterestingly you appear a tad pink.
Posted by Kradan
- Dec 14, 2021, 04:19:46 PMWho ? Me ? No, I I'm a fluffy cloud made of positive energy
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Posted by Voodoo Magic
- Dec 14, 2021, 01:15:25 PMQuote from: Kradan on Dec 14, 2021, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 13, 2021, 10:57:07 PMQuoteAlso, you forgot everybody's favourite - What's her name from AvPR !
Her name is on her chest!
O'Brien (first name Kelly)
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you're supposed to remember characters' names by looking at their clothes. I thought one supposed to care for a character to do that. Silly me
Ouch! I sense hostility, and a disturbance in the force!
Posted by Kradan
- Dec 14, 2021, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 13, 2021, 10:57:07 PMQuoteAlso, you forgot everybody's favourite - What's her name from AvPR !
Her name is on her chest!
O'Brien (first name Kelly)
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you're supposed to remember characters' names by looking at their clothes. I thought one supposed to care for a character to do that. Silly me
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Dec 14, 2021, 11:03:57 AM
Newt's dead. Grownup Newt = stupid. No do-overs.
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
- Dec 14, 2021, 11:30:58 AMAnything without Ridley is fine for me at this point.
Posted by Mr. Clemens
- Dec 14, 2021, 11:03:57 AMNewt's dead. Grownup Newt = stupid. No do-overs.
Posted by Voodoo Magic
- Dec 13, 2021, 10:57:07 PMQuote from: Kradan on Dec 13, 2021, 07:18:22 PM
Shaw was somewhat different with whole "What I choose to belive" , wanting to discover what our creators are angle. As much as I love Covenant, I must admit that Daniels was in fact just a Ripley clone. Short hair, tough, leader type, runs around with guns, blows Alien out of the airlock, the end
So it comes down to the writing to you then. Of course if they write Newt as a 38 year old, haunted by nightmares that will only be settled by facing the beast one more time, you'll have your dreaded Ripley clone. But what if she's lived such a more interesting life. Became educated. Explored the sciences. And inspired by her saviors, even spent time in the corps. And we see these life stages in the film. I think a lot of people would be interested to see how her life would progress in a sans-Ripley cinematic installment... maybe drawn to the beast versus obsessed...considering the majority of the general public hold Alien and Aliens (and only Alien and Aliens) in high regard. It would be as interesting as Furiosa films to me, maybe even more. Too bad Anya Taylor-Joy is already taken.
QuoteAlso, you forgot everybody's favourite - What's her name from AvPR !
Her name is on her chest!
O'Brien (first name Kelly)
Posted by Master
- Dec 13, 2021, 10:20:30 PMKelly and Molly. I don't remember which is which.
Posted by Kradan
- Dec 13, 2021, 07:18:22 PMShaw was somewhat different with whole "What I choose to belive" , wanting to discover what our creators are angle. As much as I love Covenant, I must admit that Daniels was in fact just a Ripley clone. Short hair, tough, leader type, runs around with guns, blows Alien out of the airlock, the end
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Posted by Voodoo Magic
- Dec 13, 2021, 07:01:10 PMQuote from: Kradan on Dec 13, 2021, 04:15:46 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 13, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
I'm actually agreeing that a grown-up Newt would make an excellent protagonist.
But how ? How do you turn her in anything besides another Ripley clone ? I'm genuinely curious to hear your ideas
Well, the best way I think one can answer this question to your satisfaction is begin with seeding another question regarding how would you perceive Shaw and Daniels. Are they Ripley clones to you?
Posted by Kradan
- Dec 13, 2021, 04:15:46 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 13, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
I'm actually agreeing that a grown-up Newt would make an excellent protagonist.
But how ? How do you turn her in anything besides another Ripley clone ? I'm genuinely curious to hear your ideas
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
- Dec 13, 2021, 02:24:36 PMIt really doesn't at this point.
People have said as much for coming up on eight years now, and it gets more unlikely with each passing day especially with all the media coming out from the franchise that's firmly rooted in the current continuity, do you think if someone at Disney's considering retconning anything we'd be seeing this?
Vanity Fair: What's next for you?
What's next for me, it looks like, an Alien series for FX, taking on that franchise and those amazing films by Ridley Scott and James Cameron and David Fincher. Those are great monster movies, but they're not just monster movies. They're about humanity trapped between our primordial, parasitic past and our artificial intelligence future—and they're both trying to kill us. Here you have human beings and they can't go forward and they can't go back. So I find that really interesting.
Where are you in that process?
I've written a couple of scripts, the first two scripts, and we're looking to make them next spring. When you get to something with this level of visual effects, there's a lot of preparation that has to go into it. What's been really illuminating is to see that the entire film industry had to take a year off and they are now trying to jam two years of production into one year. So it's very hard to look on the planet earth and see where you might make something in the next six months. Everyone is racing to make up for lost time. So, I figure let that bubble burst a little bit and we'll do it right.
Is there anything else you can share about it? Is it part of the Ripley story, or will it be original characters in a different time and place?
It's not a Ripley story. She's one of the great characters of all time, and I think the story has been told pretty perfectly, and I don't want to mess with it. It's a story that's set on Earth also. The alien stories are always trapped... Trapped in a prison, trapped in a space ship. I thought it would be interesting to open it up a little bit so that the stakes of "What happens if you can't contain it?" are more immediate.
Deadly things that can't be contained and the whole world at risk? Sounds relevant to the past year.
On some level it's also a story about inequality. You know, one of the things that I love about the first movie is how '70s a movie it is, and how it's really this blue collar space-trucker world in which Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton are basically Waiting for Godot. They're like Samuel Beckett characters, ordered to go to a place by a faceless nameless corporation. The second movie is such an '80s movie, but it's still about grunts. Paul Reiser is middle management at best. So, it is the story of the people you send to do the dirty work.
How does that relate to your series?
In mine, you're also going to see the people who are sending them. So you will see what happens when the inequality we're struggling with now isn't resolved. If we as a society can't figure out how to prop each other up and spread the wealth, then what's going to happen to us? There's that great Sigourney Weaver line to Paul Reiser where she says, "I don't know which species is worse. At least they don't f**k each other over for a percentage."
People have said as much for coming up on eight years now, and it gets more unlikely with each passing day especially with all the media coming out from the franchise that's firmly rooted in the current continuity, do you think if someone at Disney's considering retconning anything we'd be seeing this?
Vanity Fair: What's next for you?
What's next for me, it looks like, an Alien series for FX, taking on that franchise and those amazing films by Ridley Scott and James Cameron and David Fincher. Those are great monster movies, but they're not just monster movies. They're about humanity trapped between our primordial, parasitic past and our artificial intelligence future—and they're both trying to kill us. Here you have human beings and they can't go forward and they can't go back. So I find that really interesting.
Where are you in that process?
I've written a couple of scripts, the first two scripts, and we're looking to make them next spring. When you get to something with this level of visual effects, there's a lot of preparation that has to go into it. What's been really illuminating is to see that the entire film industry had to take a year off and they are now trying to jam two years of production into one year. So it's very hard to look on the planet earth and see where you might make something in the next six months. Everyone is racing to make up for lost time. So, I figure let that bubble burst a little bit and we'll do it right.
Is there anything else you can share about it? Is it part of the Ripley story, or will it be original characters in a different time and place?
It's not a Ripley story. She's one of the great characters of all time, and I think the story has been told pretty perfectly, and I don't want to mess with it. It's a story that's set on Earth also. The alien stories are always trapped... Trapped in a prison, trapped in a space ship. I thought it would be interesting to open it up a little bit so that the stakes of "What happens if you can't contain it?" are more immediate.
Deadly things that can't be contained and the whole world at risk? Sounds relevant to the past year.
On some level it's also a story about inequality. You know, one of the things that I love about the first movie is how '70s a movie it is, and how it's really this blue collar space-trucker world in which Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton are basically Waiting for Godot. They're like Samuel Beckett characters, ordered to go to a place by a faceless nameless corporation. The second movie is such an '80s movie, but it's still about grunts. Paul Reiser is middle management at best. So, it is the story of the people you send to do the dirty work.
How does that relate to your series?
In mine, you're also going to see the people who are sending them. So you will see what happens when the inequality we're struggling with now isn't resolved. If we as a society can't figure out how to prop each other up and spread the wealth, then what's going to happen to us? There's that great Sigourney Weaver line to Paul Reiser where she says, "I don't know which species is worse. At least they don't f**k each other over for a percentage."
Posted by Voodoo Magic
- Dec 13, 2021, 02:13:14 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 12, 2021, 01:13:55 AM
You saw what I did there? I didn't even see what I did there.
I'm actually agreeing that a grown-up Newt would make an excellent protagonist.
Posted by Perfect-Organism
- Dec 13, 2021, 04:03:34 AMhttps://screenrant.com/coolest-facts-neill-blomkamp-unmade-alien-film/amp/
I'm not saying that Neil Blomkamp's direction would have been the right one. The idea of Ripley in an alien suit sounds ridiculous to me, but picking up after the Aliens film makes the most sense.
I'm not saying that Neil Blomkamp's direction would have been the right one. The idea of Ripley in an alien suit sounds ridiculous to me, but picking up after the Aliens film makes the most sense.
Posted by Master
- Dec 12, 2021, 11:10:34 PMQuote from: Kradan on Dec 12, 2021, 06:45:16 PMQuote from: skhellter on Dec 12, 2021, 05:59:39 PM
If Weaver wants to come back
At this point - please no. We don't need grandma Ripley running around shooting Xenos with pulse rifle
Unless it's sequel to A:R and they'll explain it with accelerated againg of the clone.
