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Title: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2012, 06:35:57 PM

You should all remember the mysterious Project Prometheus website that went live last weekend. It’s entirely blank aside from two hidden passworded pages, eridu and 245409. We just received an e-mail from seeasea containing an image of the Prometheus that he says is from the eridu link!

There’s no word on how he managed to crack the code but he’s kindly shared them with us.

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You can view it in full size on the forum!

Update #1: Turns out some fans deciphered the password to the eridu website following some hints left on Twitter. The password is tell abu shahrain. You find read more about it in our forums.

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Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2012, 06:36:44 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2FCorpral_Hicks%2Ftas.jpg&hash=fd2ed5e83be2b582a73e412b375fd95a97c3d177)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Max Rockatansky on Mar 21, 2012, 06:37:24 PM
the password is

tell abu shahrain
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Spidey3121 on Mar 21, 2012, 06:40:44 PM
There are multiple sites, the password to http://www.projectprometheus.com/eridu/ (http://www.projectprometheus.com/eridu/) is as stated above but the password for http://www.projectprometheus.com/245409/ (http://www.projectprometheus.com/245409/) is still unknown...
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: worriors on Mar 21, 2012, 06:41:11 PM
what is the password? ???

thank you, i see there are two sites.  :)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Max Rockatansky on Mar 21, 2012, 06:42:35 PM
Quote from: worriors on Mar 21, 2012, 06:41:11 PM
what is the password? ???

tell abu shahrain for Eridu
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 21, 2012, 07:01:42 PM
THAT LOOKS LIKE A LAME VIDEO GAME!!


(kidding....just echoing the ridiculousness in other threads.)

It's flawless and unprecedented.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Despicable Dugong on Mar 21, 2012, 07:04:40 PM
Could 245409 refer to a grid reference of some sort? Anyone got GPS handy they can slot it into? 
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: NunKiRitu on Mar 21, 2012, 07:12:49 PM
Could this be a sequence of riddles?

I'm sure there is more on this picture than meets the eye...
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: predxeno on Mar 21, 2012, 07:15:20 PM
The password doesn't work for me. :(
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: NunKiRitu on Mar 21, 2012, 07:17:04 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Mar 21, 2012, 07:15:20 PM
The password doesn't work for me. :(

Try to copy/paste it.

For some reason I couldn't type it in either...
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: predxeno on Mar 21, 2012, 07:21:32 PM
I did, it was the first thing I did.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 21, 2012, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 21, 2012, 07:01:42 PM
THAT LOOKS LIKE A LAME VIDEO GAME!!
(kidding....just echoing the ridiculousness in other threads.)

It's flawless and unprecedented.
Now who's being ridiculous? :P Ridiculous hyperbole, much?

All that work people put in, for this? Just another slightly expanded trailer shot? Viral marketing, ugh.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Munkeywrench on Mar 21, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
Quote from: Despicable Dugong on Mar 21, 2012, 07:04:40 PM
Could 245409 refer to a grid reference of some sort? Anyone got GPS handy they can slot it into?

Its the latitude of one of the Florida Keys, Lignumvitae Key
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: KirklandSignature on Mar 21, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: Miker30 on Mar 21, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
Quote from: Despicable Dugong on Mar 21, 2012, 07:04:40 PM
Could 245409 refer to a grid reference of some sort? Anyone got GPS handy they can slot it into?

Its the latitude of one of the Florida Keys, Lignumvitae Key

Maybe this is where Prometheus launches from? it makes sense because Florida is in the equator, making space launches easier for some reason, lol too sciencey for me ;)



Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: RagingDragon on Mar 21, 2012, 09:27:37 PM
COOL.

Perhaps I'm easily entertained, but I appreciate the extra effort that went into this.  Show's they give a shit, just in a general sort of way.

As long as they put the same effort into the film itself. :D
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: First Blood on Mar 21, 2012, 10:04:20 PM
Would have been nice if it was something that isn't as easily viewable through the trailers. If I wanted to see a picture of the ship, I would have watched the trailer again. :-\
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 21, 2012, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 21, 2012, 10:04:20 PM
Would have been nice if it was something that isn't as easily viewable through the trailers. If I wanted to see a picture of the ship, I would have watched the trailer again. :-\
Indeed. I was at least hoping for an HD version of the awesome IMAX teaser :-\
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: RagingDragon on Mar 21, 2012, 10:08:04 PM
I do agree if that was all you got, a fun puzzle for something you've already seen. :laugh:

Project Blueball
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Wolv1337 on Mar 21, 2012, 10:38:58 PM
Thanks to more Twitter hints, password for 245409 has been cracked. It's DDM2DDM2DDM2AMAMAMBIGBIGBIGBMESMPP, (comma included) which represents Cosmic Call 2, sent to HD245409, also known as Gleise 208 and is expected to arrive there in 2040.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call_2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call_2)

This is the result:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.projectprometheus.com%2F245409%2Fimg%2FDDM2DDM2.jpg&hash=330c9e0f6e274c0e5e30e54ff896d41bdc3b23db)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 21, 2012, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: Wolv1337 on Mar 21, 2012, 10:38:58 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.projectprometheus.com%2F245409%2Fimg%2FDDM2DDM2.jpg&hash=330c9e0f6e274c0e5e30e54ff896d41bdc3b23db)
Now THAT's more like it!
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: First Blood on Mar 21, 2012, 10:43:27 PM
Awesome. Great look at the temple as well. :)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 21, 2012, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 21, 2012, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: Wolv1337 on Mar 21, 2012, 10:38:58 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.projectprometheus.com%2F245409%2Fimg%2FDDM2DDM2.jpg&hash=330c9e0f6e274c0e5e30e54ff896d41bdc3b23db)
Now THAT's more like it!

Indeed!

Is that person approaching the dock that Vickers(?) is starring down the mysterious "hand out and in the air" submissive person we've been pondering over? (need to find a screenshot for what I mean...)

Either way, interesting... looks to be after their first little delve into the establishment.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: 180924609 on Mar 21, 2012, 10:47:24 PM
Quote from: Wolv1337 on Mar 21, 2012, 10:38:58 PM
Thanks to more Twitter hints, password for 245409 has been cracked. It's DDM2DDM2DDM2AMAMAMBIGBIGBIGBMESMPP, (comma included) which represents Cosmic Call 2, sent to HD245409, also known as Gleise 208 and is expected to arrive there in 2040.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call_2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call_2)

This is the result:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.projectprometheus.com%2F245409%2Fimg%2FDDM2DDM2.jpg&hash=330c9e0f6e274c0e5e30e54ff896d41bdc3b23db)

Awesome - beautiful shot.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cavalorn on Mar 21, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
IMO, requiring the inclusion of the comma was a dick move, since it's not part of the signal, but a punctuation mark from the article ABOUT the signal on Wikipedia. Very small rant over. :)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: RoaryUK on Mar 21, 2012, 10:48:40 PM
The 245409 link is very interesting, now you can REALLY see the temple for the first time, and very Gigar-ish it is too!! 
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 21, 2012, 10:50:13 PM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 21, 2012, 10:44:38 PM
Is that person approaching the dock that Vickers(?) is starring down the mysterious "hand out and in the air" submissive person we've been pondering over? (need to find a screenshot for what I mean...)
Looks like they've just returned from their first failed exploratory mission, with Holloway and Fifield compromised, and Charlize is pulling a Ripley and not letting them in.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Eva on Mar 21, 2012, 10:51:40 PM
Nice find - how on Earth did they figure out the password lol?

So... the first expedition to the temple comes back relatively unharmed, or they don't realize they might have 'caught' something while inside...?

Edit: This might have an 'Alien' vibe to it with Vickers wanting to know exactly what happened before they can enter, otherwise there wouldn't be any reason why they couldn't drive the vehicle all the way inside...
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 21, 2012, 10:58:19 PM
Wow, that pyramid is almost exactly Gigers drawing. Badass.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: First Blood on Mar 21, 2012, 11:00:31 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 21, 2012, 10:50:13 PM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 21, 2012, 10:44:38 PM
Is that person approaching the dock that Vickers(?) is starring down the mysterious "hand out and in the air" submissive person we've been pondering over? (need to find a screenshot for what I mean...)
Looks like they've just returned from their first failed exploratory mission, with Holloway and Fifield compromised, and Charlize is pulling a Ripley and not letting them in.

Well isn't that interesting. In Alien, it's the Company tool (Ash) who let's Dallas & Co in and here its almost a reversal. Vickers, the corporate figurehead is possibly preventing them from coming in.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Deuterium on Mar 21, 2012, 11:04:04 PM
SON OF A BITCH!

I don't know how many hours I spent checking the discussed stars (ZR 2, Gilese 208, Epsilon Eridani, etc.) by converting their celestial coordinates (RA and Declination) over to Galactic coordinates, converting sexagesimal to decimal and even binary, and all that stuff...all in the hopes that the number 245409 popped out in some form.

And it was staring us in the face, right on the friggin' Cosmic Call Wikipedia page.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!

:P
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Vickers on Mar 21, 2012, 11:04:30 PM
Help me... I can't stay away from these forums even though I've said I've seen enough before June. :(

And this newly uncovered image isn't helping any.  Wow!!!

That is truly incredible!  I sincerely hope that's a shot from the film.  I doubt they would render a shot like that just for a website, right?  That needs to be in the film!
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 21, 2012, 11:05:33 PM
Ripley might like to take a page from the book of Vickers. Would've saved them a lot of trouble. ;D

Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 21, 2012, 11:04:04 PM
SON OF A BITCH!

I don't know how many hours I spent checking the discussed stars (ZR 2, Gilese 208, Epsilon Eridani, etc.) by converting their celestial coordinates (RA and Declination) over to Galactic coordinates, converting sexagesimal to decimal and even binary, and all that stuff...all in the hopes that the number 245409 popped out in some form.

And it was staring us in the face, right on the friggin' Cosmic Call Wikipedia page.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!

:P

With the god-damned comma. As has been said, a total dick move, and all we get is a photo.

Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: aliennaire on Mar 21, 2012, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: Eva on Mar 21, 2012, 10:51:40 PM
Nice find - how on Earth did they figure out the password lol?
Quite easy, as it might seem now. Well, upon searching on Wiki something related to magic number 245409 you get results http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=245409&title=Special%3ASearch (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=245409&title=Special%3ASearch) , where from it's more than clear, that this number relates to Orion constellation and sent to the star HD 245409 message from the Earth, which was named Cosmic Call 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call)
What you were left to do is just remove all blanks and arrows between the parts of the message and leave in the place, where it was, namely after PP, that stupid comma (what I personally didn't!!!  :o)
Anyway, I think, it was a stunning riddle!  ;)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: tonyt2000 on Mar 21, 2012, 11:14:54 PM
Well, this sure as hell doesn't look much like the LV-426 we've seen in prior films, does it?  I believe that it has to be a different planet. The atmosphere and look seem completely different, but I guess we'll find out in June, eh?
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: aliennaire on Mar 21, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 21, 2012, 11:04:04 PM
SON OF A BITCH!

I don't know how many hours I spent checking the discussed stars (ZR 2, Gilese 208, Epsilon Eridani, etc.) by converting their celestial coordinates (RA and Declination) over to Galactic coordinates, converting sexagesimal to decimal and even binary, and all that stuff...all in the hopes that the number 245409 popped out in some form.

And it was staring us in the face, right on the friggin' Cosmic Call Wikipedia page.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!

:P
I can feel your pain, Deuterium!.. But than next time, if there are new puzles to come, we will know, that Prometheus viral marketing group rely all their mazes on Wiki!  ;D
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 21, 2012, 11:21:54 PM
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 21, 2012, 11:17:52 PMBut than next time, if there are new puzles to come, we will know, that Prometheus viral marketing group rely all their mazes on Wiki!  ;D

Haha, good point. :laugh:
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Eva on Mar 21, 2012, 11:22:40 PM
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 21, 2012, 11:11:00 PM
Quite easy, as it might seem now. Well, upon searching on Wiki something related to magic number 245409 you get results http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=245409&title=Special%3ASearch (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=245409&title=Special%3ASearch) , where from it's more than clear, that this number relates to Orion constellation and sent to the star HD 245409 message from the Earth, which was named Cosmic Call 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call)
What you were left to do is just remove all blanks and arrows between the parts of the message and leave in the place, where it was, namely after PP, that stupid comma (what I personally didn't!!!  :o)
Anyway, I think, it was a stunning riddle!  ;)

Agreed, that was waaayy to easy lol  ;D

Now excuse me while I go finish work on my pocketsized prototype fusion reactor fuelled by anti-matter...
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: First Blood on Mar 21, 2012, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: Eva on Mar 21, 2012, 11:22:40 PM
Agreed, that was waaayy to easy lol  ;D

Now excuse me while I go finish work on my pocketsized prototype fusion reactor fuelled by anti-matter...

:laugh:
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cavalorn on Mar 21, 2012, 11:32:47 PM
New section open on Weyland Industries


https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information (https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: RagingDragon on Mar 21, 2012, 11:33:16 PM
The front of that baby resembles a US HEMTT.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fglobaldefencemedia.com%2Fnews_daily%2F15_10_2010%2FOshkosh.jpg&hash=635b623cf6c0ddbc64c38b60ac8e717f09e821d1)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Michael Harper on Mar 21, 2012, 11:39:53 PM
Quote from: Cavalorn on Mar 21, 2012, 11:32:47 PM
New section open on Weyland Industries


https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information (https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information)

This is so overwhelmingly detailed! I'm very impressed! :)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cavalorn on Mar 21, 2012, 11:41:40 PM
Can't be a coincidence that it opened up after both the logins were cracked. There's something hidden in that bloody great image file, you mark my words.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: NGR01 on Mar 21, 2012, 11:41:57 PM
Quote from: Cavalorn on Mar 21, 2012, 11:32:47 PM
New section open on Weyland Industries


https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information (https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information)

OFF WORLDS ;)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Bad Replicant on Mar 21, 2012, 11:45:23 PM
Quote from: Cavalorn on Mar 21, 2012, 11:32:47 PM
New section open on Weyland Industries


https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information (https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information)

:o

Holy shnikes, they're really going all out with the WI viral stuff.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 21, 2012, 11:47:23 PM
Quote from: Cavalorn on Mar 21, 2012, 11:32:47 PM
New section open on Weyland Industries


https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information (https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information)

MODULE 1.7
EARTH RESOURCE BREAKDOWN

Their key is incorrect  :laugh:

They [at time of typing] have light blue for fuels and dark blue for minerals in the chart itself. But the key shows the opposite colours. Oopsie!


Also, under Project Prometheus they have this:
Cosmic Call 2
Messages Received
3/5
:o
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: First Blood on Mar 21, 2012, 11:54:10 PM
Quote from: Cavalorn on Mar 21, 2012, 11:32:47 PM
New section open on Weyland Industries


https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information (https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information)

I need me some Weyland Health Care. Very impressive, and highly enjoyable to read, hell it could almost pass off as a legitimate company.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: aliennaire on Mar 21, 2012, 11:54:25 PM
Quote from: Eva on Mar 21, 2012, 11:22:40 PM
Now excuse me while I go finish work on my pocketsized prototype fusion reactor fuelled by anti-matter...
Haha, it's due Noble Prize, good luck, Eva!  ;)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 21, 2012, 11:54:32 PM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 21, 2012, 11:47:23 PM
Cosmic Call 2
Messages Received
3/5
:o

Totally. That is fascinating. Seems to suggest that they are in communication with something out there. The plot thickens... a lot.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: 180924609 on Mar 21, 2012, 11:58:05 PM
Ok - what is this 'Eitr' resource that Weyland Industries seems to be in short supply of?!

Wiki entry for Eitr:

Eitr is a mythical substance in Norse mythology. This liquid substance is the origin of all living things, the first giant Ymir was conceived from eitr. The substance is supposed to be very poisonous and is also produced by Jörmungandr (the Midgard serpent) and other serpents.

:o
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Eva on Mar 21, 2012, 11:59:22 PM
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 21, 2012, 11:54:25 PM
Quote from: Eva on Mar 21, 2012, 11:22:40 PM
Now excuse me while I go finish work on my pocketsized prototype fusion reactor fuelled by anti-matter...
Haha, it's due Noble Prize, good luck, Eva!  ;)

Thx, just a matter of time until I'll bury that Swiss underachiever and his relativity nonsense...  ;)

Yeah, I noticed the 'Cosmic Call 2' detail as well, although I have no idea of the implications...

Love how much work and effort they are putting into this stuff, just for us the geeks.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 21, 2012, 11:58:05 PM
Ok - what is this 'Eitr' resource that Weyland Industries seems to be in short supply of?!

Wiki entry for Eitr:

Eitr is a mythical substance in Norse mythology. This liquid substance is the origin of all living things, the first giant Ymir was conceived from eitr. The substance is supposed to be very poisonous and is also produced by Jörmungandr (the Midgard serpent) and other serpents.

:o
:o didn't notice that!
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 22, 2012, 12:00:18 AM
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 21, 2012, 11:58:05 PM
Ok - what is this 'Eitr' resource that Weyland Industries seems to be in short supply of?!

Wiki entry for Eitr:

Eitr is a mythical substance in Norse mythology. This liquid substance is the origin of all living things, the first giant Ymir was conceived from eitr. The substance is supposed to be very poisonous and is also produced by Jörmungandr (the Midgard serpent) and other serpents.

:o

:o :o
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cavalorn on Mar 22, 2012, 12:00:49 AM
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 21, 2012, 11:58:05 PM
Ok - what is this 'Eitr' resource that Weyland Industries seems to be in short supply of?!

Wiki entry for Eitr:

Eitr is a mythical substance in Norse mythology.

Norse mythology? Featuring the amazing craftsman, Weyland, who is unable to walk?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_Smith)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 22, 2012, 12:05:13 AM
Quote from: Cavalorn on Mar 22, 2012, 12:00:49 AM
Norse mythology? Featuring the amazing craftsman, Weyland, who is unable to walk?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_Smith)

Mind blown.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: harlock on Mar 22, 2012, 12:10:32 AM
At a later point in time, he was captured in his sleep by King Niðhad in Nerike who ordered him hamstrung and imprisoned on the island of Sævarstöð. There he was forced to forge items for the king.

In revenge, Weyland killed the king's sons when they visited him in secret, fashioned goblets from their skulls, jewels from their eyes, and a brooch from their teeth. He sent the goblets to the king, the jewels to the queen and the brooch to the king's daughter. When Bodvild took her ring to him to be mended, he took the ring and raped her, fathering a son and escaping on wings he made.

Welund tasted misery among snakes. The stout-hearted hero endured troubles had sorrow and longing as his companions cruelty cold as winter - he often found woe Once Nithad laid restraints on him

Below the forge is the headless body of Niðhad's son, who Wayland has killed, making a goblet from his skull; his head is probably the object held in the tongs in Wayland's hand. With his other hand Wayland offers the goblet, containing drugged beer, to Bodvild, Niðhad's daughter, who he then rapes when she is unconscious


Points bolded by me that could link to Prometheus.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: aliennaire on Mar 22, 2012, 12:13:36 AM
Quote from: Eva on Mar 21, 2012, 11:59:22 PM
Yeah, I noticed the 'Cosmic Call 2' detail as well, although I have no idea of the implications...
It was transmitted to different five Sun-like stars during the same one day (no Z2R was here, though!). Probably some of those stars will play a vital role in the film, that's what I'm guessing, but I'm not sure  :)

Nice find, 180924609 and Cavalorn!
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 12:14:30 AM
Quote from: harlock on Mar 22, 2012, 12:10:32 AM
At a later point in time, he was captured in his sleep by King Niðhad in Nerike who ordered him hamstrung and imprisoned on the island of Sævarstöð. There he was forced to forge items for the king.

In revenge, Weyland killed the king's sons when they visited him in secret, fashioned goblets from their skulls, jewels from their eyes, and a brooch from their teeth. He sent the goblets to the king, the jewels to the queen and the brooch to the king's daughter. When Bodvild took her ring to him to be mended, he took the ring and raped her, fathering a son and escaping on wings he made.

Welund tasted misery among snakes. The stout-hearted hero endured troubles had sorrow and longing as his companions cruelty cold as winter - he often found woe Once Nithad laid restraints on him

Below the forge is the headless body of Niðhad's son, who Wayland has killed, making a goblet from his skull; his head is probably the object held in the tongs in Wayland's hand. With his other hand Wayland offers the goblet, containing drugged beer, to Bodvild, Niðhad's daughter, who he then rapes when she is unconscious


Points bolded by me that could link to Prometheus.

8) the plot thickens.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 22, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
There is another link between Prometheus and the poison Eitr via Norse mythology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus#Comparative_myths... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus#Comparative_myths...)

QuoteIn Norse mythology, the god Loki was bound to a rock. Above him is a large serpent which drips toxic venom upon him. His wife collects the poison in a bowl, but must empty it every time it gets full. As she is in the process of doing this, the snake proceeds to cover Loki in poison. Just as Prometheus gets his liver eaten only to have it grow back again, Loki is temporarily saved from venom only to have it drip on him once more.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 12:19:28 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fheavenfirst.webs.com%2Fphotos%2FStargate%2520rassid%2FAsgard.gif&hash=423ad6ae4619df53e9e49de6e174ccf2743358e5)

Norse + aliens? :P


Very interesting... wonder if the venom dripping serpent has anything to do with our alien mural? There has got to be some significant link to that mural somewhere in the film, surely...
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 22, 2012, 12:26:06 AM
So Weyland is collecting something that has been named by scientists in this fictional future as Eitr, referencing a mythological poison that is produced by a serpent and is the very first spark of life. This ties into so many of the themes that have been showing up in this film. Serpents, poisons/acids, creation myths, Loki/Prometheus.

The question is how did they get it if the Prometheus Project has not yet launched? The page mentions that Weyland has received message from deep space, so maybe these messages contain instructions on how to formulate it?
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 22, 2012, 12:27:07 AM
there are more fictional elements listed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum)

and, yeah, of course

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium)

quote:
"Adamantine is also the metal used by Hephaestus to construct chains to hold Prometheus in the ancient greek play Prometheus Bound"
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: aliennaire on Mar 22, 2012, 12:31:40 AM
I think at last we got the scientific name for our "goo" now - Etir...
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Eva on Mar 22, 2012, 12:34:59 AM
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 22, 2012, 12:13:36 AM
Quote from: Eva on Mar 21, 2012, 11:59:22 PM
Yeah, I noticed the 'Cosmic Call 2' detail as well, although I have no idea of the implications...
It was transmitted to different five Sun-like stars during the same one day (no Z2R was here, though!). Probably some of those stars will play a vital role in the film, that's what I'm guessing, but I'm not sure  :)

Nice find, 180924609 and Cavalorn!

Thx and I second the praise.  :)

Those stars are approx 40-70 lightyears from Earth so I guess they (and their potential systems) are all candidates.

Regarding Eitr - could it be the vital element needed to produce functioning androids? I mean, the mythic substance is also refeered to as 'creating life' or something like it? The white substance that flows in their veins wink wink..?  ;)

Love the connections to Norse mythology. Now why didn't I pay more attention in school...?! I live in Scandinavia for Christs sake...  :D
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Some Mothers Do Have Em! on Mar 22, 2012, 12:48:34 AM
Quote from: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 22, 2012, 12:27:07 AM
there are more fictional elements listed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum)

and, yeah, of course

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium)

quote:
"Adamantine is also the metal used by Hephaestus to construct chains to hold Prometheus in the ancient greek play Prometheus Bound"

And sounds very close to what is inside Wolverine.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 22, 2012, 12:52:51 AM
Quote from: Some Mothers Do Have Em! on Mar 22, 2012, 12:48:34 AM
Quote from: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 22, 2012, 12:27:07 AM
there are more fictional elements listed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum)

and, yeah, of course

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium)

quote:
"Adamantine is also the metal used by Hephaestus to construct chains to hold Prometheus in the ancient greek play Prometheus Bound"

And sounds very close to what is inside Wolverine.

yes, we can safely assume Wolverine is going to be in the movie
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Eva on Mar 22, 2012, 12:58:52 AM
Carmot = Philosopher's stone -> ...It was also sometimes believed to be an elixir of life, useful for rejuvenation and possibly for achieving immortality.

There are way to many small references for this to be coincidences...

Jeeez it's late - gotta go to bed. Goodnight people!  :)

Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: FUBAR1945 on Mar 22, 2012, 01:16:34 AM
Quote from: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 22, 2012, 12:52:51 AM
Quote from: Some Mothers Do Have Em! on Mar 22, 2012, 12:48:34 AM
Quote from: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 22, 2012, 12:27:07 AM
there are more fictional elements listed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum)

and, yeah, of course

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium)

quote:
"Adamantine is also the metal used by Hephaestus to construct chains to hold Prometheus in the ancient greek play Prometheus Bound"

And sounds very close to what is inside Wolverine.

yes, we can safely assume Wolverine is going to be in the movie

LOL ;D
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 01:19:26 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 22, 2012, 12:16:02 AM
In Norse mythology, the god Loki was bound to a rock. Above him is a large serpent which drips toxic venom upon him. His wife collects the poison in a bowl, but must empty it every time it gets full. As she is in the process of doing this, the snake proceeds to cover Loki in poison. Just as Prometheus gets his liver eaten only to have it grow back again, Loki is temporarily saved from venom only to have it drip on him once more.

This all just made me think of the first trailer (not the International one), we see Holloway looking at a bowl.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Some Mothers Do Have Em! on Mar 22, 2012, 01:30:59 AM
Quote from: FUBAR1945 on Mar 22, 2012, 01:16:34 AM
Quote from: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 22, 2012, 12:52:51 AM
Quote from: Some Mothers Do Have Em! on Mar 22, 2012, 12:48:34 AM
Quote from: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 22, 2012, 12:27:07 AM
there are more fictional elements listed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carmot&redirect=no)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum)

and, yeah, of course

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium)

quote:
"Adamantine is also the metal used by Hephaestus to construct chains to hold Prometheus in the ancient greek play Prometheus Bound"

And sounds very close to what is inside Wolverine.

yes, we can safely assume Wolverine is going to be in the movie

LOL ;D

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Just saying. ;D
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: eyeballkid on Mar 22, 2012, 02:10:23 AM
Is the the pyramid shot based on Gigers Dune concept art, or the other silo painting? Can someone post comparisons?


http://www.meridian.net.au/Art/Artists/HRGiger/Gallery/Images/giger-dune-ii-medium.jpg (http://www.meridian.net.au/Art/Artists/HRGiger/Gallery/Images/giger-dune-ii-medium.jpg) It looks like this but backwards, without the face and arms.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 02:22:33 AM
I think it's reminiscent in outline shape. But nothing more.

To say that the complex looks giger-esque... well... I really don't think so. There is nothing bio-mech and illogical about it and that is after all his style. It simply looks like rock that has been crafted and eroded, with some interesting patterns here and there.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: LarsVader on Mar 22, 2012, 02:24:30 AM
Quote from: eyeballkid on Mar 22, 2012, 02:10:23 AM
Is the the pyramid shot based on Gigers Dune concept art, or the other silo painting? Can someone post comparisons?


http://www.meridian.net.au/Art/Artists/HRGiger/Gallery/Images/giger-dune-ii-medium.jpg (http://www.meridian.net.au/Art/Artists/HRGiger/Gallery/Images/giger-dune-ii-medium.jpg) It looks like this but backwards, without the face and arms.
Due to popular demand; follow the link inside the link.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42492.msg1308242#msg1308242 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42492.msg1308242#msg1308242)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: eyeballkid on Mar 22, 2012, 02:27:28 AM
I think that Ridley is clearly giving H.R. Giger the attention that he should have got with Alien. :)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: SM on Mar 22, 2012, 02:31:20 AM
Because of course he didn't get any attention with exposure to a worldwide audience in a smash hit film and an Oscar to boot.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 02:33:56 AM
Quote from: SM on Mar 22, 2012, 02:31:20 AM
Because of course he didn't get any attention with exposure to a worldwide audience in a smash hit film and an Oscar to boot.

8)

Plus, you people are mad for thinking that complex is giger-esque. If you have an understanding on fine art (i.e. have done courses, are a professional artist) I'm sure you will know what I mean.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: eyeballkid on Mar 22, 2012, 02:42:22 AM
I know what you mean, I have a BFA, above all else, Ridley is making a new art form in the sci-fi horror genre. Giger and Scott are like long lost art buddies. :)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 22, 2012, 02:44:06 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 02:33:56 AM
Plus, you people are mad for thinking that complex is giger-esque. If you have an understanding on fine art (i.e. have done courses, are a professional artist) I'm sure you will know what I mean.
But the temple is based off a Giger design--one of his unused Dune temples, complete with a face and everything. It's been watered down, but it's still obviously based off Giger's work.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 02:49:01 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 22, 2012, 02:44:06 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 02:33:56 AM
Plus, you people are mad for thinking that complex is giger-esque. If you have an understanding on fine art (i.e. have done courses, are a professional artist) I'm sure you will know what I mean.
But the temple is based off a Giger design--one of his unused Dune temples, complete with a face and everything. It's been watered down, but it's still obviously based off Giger's work.

Yes, I agree. It has been potentially based off it, in general shape. But lets not confuse that with a true Giger design as some are :P.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: eyeballkid on Mar 22, 2012, 02:52:29 AM
I was just saying it looks like the Dune painting, that's all. Looks awesome. :)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: OpenMaw on Mar 22, 2012, 02:59:25 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 02:33:56 AM
Plus, you people are mad for thinking that complex is giger-esque. If you have an understanding on fine art (i.e. have done courses, are a professional artist) I'm sure you will know what I mean.

Or, y'know, eyes.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 03:09:52 AM
Quote from: eyeballkid on Mar 22, 2012, 02:52:29 AM
I was just saying it looks like the Dune painting, that's all. Looks awesome. :)

Didn't mean you :)

It does look pretty interesting, yeah.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 22, 2012, 02:59:25 AM
Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 02:33:56 AM
Plus, you people are mad for thinking that complex is giger-esque. If you have an understanding on fine art (i.e. have done courses, are a professional artist) I'm sure you will know what I mean.

Or, y'know, eyes.

I was trying to be diplomatic :P
But yeah, eyes would do lol.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: LarsVader on Mar 22, 2012, 03:20:50 AM
I think that's what Giger's design would look like when exposed to the weather for about 500.000 years.  :)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 03:28:25 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 22, 2012, 03:20:50 AM
I think that's what Giger's design would look like when exposed to the weather for about 500.000 years.  :)

Thing is, it is missing organic components, and also missing the illogical/irrational part of his particular surrealist style.
Buuuut thats content for an entirely different topic that probably doesn't belong in these forums...

Onto the original point: yes it is reminiscent, and whoever devised it's concept was surely taking from his ideas in generality.

Also, anyone else notice the bowl reference in the Norse mythos, and the bowl holloway is looking at in Trailer #1?
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Deuterium on Mar 22, 2012, 03:38:59 AM
I like to imagine one of the script review meetings may have went something like this...

Spoiler
Lindelof:  Okay, I must say, this "ancient astronaut" angle is GOLD, Sir Ridley...pure GOLD!  I have managed to incorporate ancient Greek Mythology, Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian, some Mayan, a sprinkle of Egyptian and a few shakes of Nazca, Hindu and the giant pygmies of Beckles.

Sir Ridley:  The giant pygmies of Beckles?

Lindelof:  Well, we could leave them out, if you want.

Sir Ridley:   What about Old Testament stuff?  We need Old Testament stuff...you know, Ezekiel and all that.

Lindelof:  I thought we could save the Bible for the sequel.  No sense in upsetting the Christians, Jews and quite probably the Muslims, at this point.

Sir Ridley:  Hmm...not bad.  I like your thinking.  What about the Druid culture...you know, Stonehenge, standing stones, and all that?

Lindelof:  Well, I thought that might be a bit to "English"...especially for the French market.  As it is, they will be pissed I wasn't able to shoe-horn in the Carnac stones.

Sir Ridley:   Well, what does Spaiht's think about the progress so far?

Lindelof:   Ummm....well, I have been trying to get in touch with him, but apparently he has been on extended leave of absence, due to a serious flare-up of irritable bowel syndrome.

Sir Ridley:  What...surely you can reach his secretary?

Lindelof:  Err...umm...no, his secretary has suddenly come down with a slight case of hemorrhagic fever.

Sir Ridley:  Well give me Spaiht's number.

Lindelof:  It's unlisted...I mean, it has been disconnected.  No, scratch that, I just remembered, he doesn't have a phone.

Sir Ridley:   Well how the f**k to you communicate with him?

Lindelof:  Carrier Pigeons.

Sir Ridley:  But, you are keeping him completely in the loop, and encouraging his input and suggestions...right?

Lindelof:  Oh, yes...yes...of course.  Not to worry.

Sir Ridley:  Okay, back to the topic at hand...what have we missed?

Lindelof:  Can't think of anything...we have definitely covered it all, no question!

Sir Ridley:  Well, what about Norse Mythology?

Lindelof:  ..........................umm, yeah, well of course, Norse Mythology.  Sure.

Sir Ridley:  I don't see anything relating to Norse Mythology in the script?

Lindelof:  Oh, well that was Spaiht's responsibility.

Sir Ridley:  You are sure?

Lindelof:  Umm, absolutely.  As a matter of fact, he was supposed to send over a new draft with the Norse stuff, but the Carrier Pigeons all came down with West Nile, and are out of commission.

Sir Ridley:  Did they?

Lindelof:  Yes, very tragic, Sir.

Sir Ridley:  All right, I want you to hit the books, and integrate all the important Norse myths into this story.  And I mean really get into this research.  I DO NOT want you relying on Wikipedia for any of this shit.

Lindelof:  Perish the thought, sir.  It would never even cross my mind.

Sir Ridley:   Good, good.  Let's meet together same time next week.  I still want you to touch base with Spaiht's on this Norse stuff.

Lindelof:  Yes sir, I will give him a call as soon as we are finished here.

Sir Ridley:  I thought you said he didn't have a phone?

Lindelof:  I meant I will send out a pigeon with the message.

Sir Ridley:  I thought you said they all succumbed to West Nile?

Lindelof:  No, no, no...I didn't mean pigeons, I meant I will use our ultra-secret backup.

Sir Ridley:  And what is that?

Lindelof:  We communicate via Ouija board.

Sir Ridley:  Really...does it work?

Lindelof:  Like a charm.  Speaking of which...I think there might just be an idea for another movie with this.

Sir Ridley:  f**king BRILLIANT !!!!
[close]
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: PredAlienFreak on Mar 22, 2012, 06:53:23 AM
haha you are absolutely right xD  ...

i really hope the story will be something big, something really new and cool ...

i don´t want an event horizon, red planet, mission to mars or avp movie ..... I mean there is a lot of stuff in prometheus that reminds me of this movies ....

hope ridley won´t dissapoint us ..

Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: aliennaire on Mar 22, 2012, 08:29:12 AM
Quote from: Eva on Mar 22, 2012, 12:34:59 AM
Regarding Eitr - could it be the vital element needed to produce functioning androids? I mean, the mythic substance is also refeered to as 'creating life' or something like it? The white substance that flows in their veins wink wink..?  ;)
Well, I personally doubt it will turn out to be robots' blood, as it's quite rare resource and robots would perhaps be rent to pieces and drained for their precious white fluid  ;)

Quote from: PredAlienFreak on Mar 22, 2012, 06:53:23 AMi really hope the story will be something big, something really new and cool ...
...and, to boot, stipilated by the more large scope of information, rather than the one can find on Wikipedia!  ;D

Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 22, 2012, 03:38:59 AM
Sir Ridley:  All right, I want you to hit the books, and integrate all the important Norse myths into this story.  And I mean really get into this research.  I DO NOT want you relying on Wikipedia for any of this shit.

About the temple's shape we can spot in the trailers, don't you count it's very similar in its exterior of early Giger's draft of Alien Eggs Silo, not to the Dune's structure design? I'm darn sure you have seen this picture before:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_l5o5hnBg5G1qa1o5zo1_500.jpg&hash=e927982a7d2f504b251b3cc364f047d99c62b91f)

Quote from: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 03:28:25 AM
Also, anyone else notice the bowl reference in the Norse mythos, and the bowl holloway is looking at in Trailer #1?
Will you exemplify it with screenshot?
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: LarsVader on Mar 22, 2012, 08:34:50 AM
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 22, 2012, 08:29:12 AM
About the temple's shape we can spot in the trailers, don't you count it's very similar in its exterior of early Giger's draft of Alien Eggs Silo, not to the Dune's structure design? I'm darn sure you have seen this picture before:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5o5hnBg5G1qa1o5zo1_500.jpg
Funny, I got to link this post of mine quite often in the past few days;
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: RubberChickenMan on Mar 22, 2012, 08:48:40 AM
Abu shahrain is Arabic for (father of two months)
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: aliennaire on Mar 22, 2012, 09:04:41 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 22, 2012, 08:34:50 AM
Funny, I got to link this post of mine quite often in the past few days;
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42208.msg1287048#msg1287048
Great finds! And as for temple in the movie, it seems to include designs of both Dune's and Egg Silo picture, depeding on the side you are looking at it.

Quote from: RubberChickenMan on Mar 22, 2012, 08:48:40 AM
Abu shahrain is Arabic for (father of two months)
What does "Tell" stands for then?
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 22, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
The structure in Prometheus and HR Giger's Harkonnen castle design from the aborted Dune:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2FDDM2DDM2.jpg&hash=1b5ee32eb51ddf9c78b626fd03cc6b8532821fcd)

Did Scott dig up Giger's old, unused designs? Giger worked on Alejandro Jodorowsky's version of Dune pre-Alien, and Ridley too worked on Dune after Alien, but left the project due to his brother Frank's death. Enter David Lynch. Anyhow, a return to Giger's old designs?
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 22, 2012, 01:17:54 PM
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 22, 2012, 03:38:59 AM
I like to imagine one of the script review meetings may have went something like this...

Spoiler
Lindelof:  Okay, I must say, this "ancient astronaut" angle is GOLD, Sir Ridley...pure GOLD!  I have managed to incorporate ancient Greek Mythology, Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian, some Mayan, a sprinkle of Egyptian and a few shakes of Nazca, Hindu and the giant pygmies of Beckles.

Sir Ridley:  The giant pygmies of Beckles?

Lindelof:  Well, we could leave them out, if you want.

Sir Ridley:   What about Old Testament stuff?  We need Old Testament stuff...you know, Ezekiel and all that.

Lindelof:  I thought we could save the Bible for the sequel.  No sense in upsetting the Christians, Jews and quite probably the Muslims, at this point.

Sir Ridley:  Hmm...not bad.  I like your thinking.  What about the Druid culture...you know, Stonehenge, standing stones, and all that?

Lindelof:  Well, I thought that might be a bit to "English"...especially for the French market.  As it is, they will be pissed I wasn't able to shoe-horn in the Carnac stones.

Sir Ridley:   Well, what does Spaiht's think about the progress so far?

Lindelof:   Ummm....well, I have been trying to get in touch with him, but apparently he has been on extended leave of absence, due to a serious flare-up of irritable bowel syndrome.

Sir Ridley:  What...surely you can reach his secretary?

Lindelof:  Err...umm...no, his secretary has suddenly come down with a slight case of hemorrhagic fever.

Sir Ridley:  Well give me Spaiht's number.

Lindelof:  It's unlisted...I mean, it has been disconnected.  No, scratch that, I just remembered, he doesn't have a phone.

Sir Ridley:   Well how the f**k to you communicate with him?

Lindelof:  Carrier Pigeons.

Sir Ridley:  But, you are keeping him completely in the loop, and encouraging his input and suggestions...right?

Lindelof:  Oh, yes...yes...of course.  Not to worry.

Sir Ridley:  Okay, back to the topic at hand...what have we missed?

Lindelof:  Can't think of anything...we have definitely covered it all, no question!

Sir Ridley:  Well, what about Norse Mythology?

Lindelof:  ..........................umm, yeah, well of course, Norse Mythology.  Sure.

Sir Ridley:  I don't see anything relating to Norse Mythology in the script?

Lindelof:  Oh, well that was Spaiht's responsibility.

Sir Ridley:  You are sure?

Lindelof:  Umm, absolutely.  As a matter of fact, he was supposed to send over a new draft with the Norse stuff, but the Carrier Pigeons all came down with West Nile, and are out of commission.

Sir Ridley:  Did they?

Lindelof:  Yes, very tragic, Sir.

Sir Ridley:  All right, I want you to hit the books, and integrate all the important Norse myths into this story.  And I mean really get into this research.  I DO NOT want you relying on Wikipedia for any of this shit.

Lindelof:  Perish the thought, sir.  It would never even cross my mind.

Sir Ridley:   Good, good.  Let's meet together same time next week.  I still want you to touch base with Spaiht's on this Norse stuff.

Lindelof:  Yes sir, I will give him a call as soon as we are finished here.

Sir Ridley:  I thought you said he didn't have a phone?

Lindelof:  I meant I will send out a pigeon with the message.

Sir Ridley:  I thought you said they all succumbed to West Nile?

Lindelof:  No, no, no...I didn't mean pigeons, I meant I will use our ultra-secret backup.

Sir Ridley:  And what is that?

Lindelof:  We communicate via Ouija board.

Sir Ridley:  Really...does it work?

Lindelof:  Like a charm.  Speaking of which...I think there might just be an idea for another movie with this.

Sir Ridley:  f**king BRILLIANT !!!!
[close]

haha that was brilliant!  :laugh:

Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 22, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
The structure in Prometheus and HR Giger's Harkonnen castle design from the aborted Dune:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2FDDM2DDM2.jpg&hash=1b5ee32eb51ddf9c78b626fd03cc6b8532821fcd)

Did Scott dig up Giger's old, unused designs? Giger worked on Alejandro Jodorowsky's version of Dune pre-Alien, and Ridley too worked on Dune after Alien, but left the project due to his brother Frank's death. Enter David Lynch. Anyhow, a return to Giger's old designs?

it looks very much like Ridley took Gigers design and added some Sphinx-style erosion - et voilà
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Deuterium on Mar 22, 2012, 05:54:52 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 22, 2012, 02:44:06 AM
But the temple is based off a Giger design--one of his unused Dune temples, complete with a face and everything. It's been watered down, but it's still obviously based off Giger's work.

Cvalda, just noticed your new Space Tapir image.  Well done.  ;D
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 22, 2012, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 22, 2012, 05:54:52 PM
Cvalda, just noticed your new Space Tapir image.  Well done.  ;D
;D
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: marsekay on Mar 22, 2012, 07:44:04 PM
So, eitr is the goo, its an acid [DNA is an acid is it not?(alien blood?)] and humans were made from clay (eitr)?

Eitr is our maguffin then. we can make anything living from it!
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: locusta on Mar 22, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 22, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
The structure in Prometheus and HR Giger's Harkonnen castle design from the aborted Dune:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2FDDM2DDM2.jpg&hash=1b5ee32eb51ddf9c78b626fd03cc6b8532821fcd)

Did Scott dig up Giger's old, unused designs? Giger worked on Alejandro Jodorowsky's version of Dune pre-Alien, and Ridley too worked on Dune after Alien, but left the project due to his brother Frank's death. Enter David Lynch. Anyhow, a return to Giger's old designs?

You, Sir are just too fast ;)

Wanted to post exactly the same pic compare.

Yep, it almost jumps to the eye. Hopefully there is more to this structure than pure rock.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 22, 2012, 11:23:41 PM
Quote from: locusta on Mar 22, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 22, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
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You, Sir are just too fast ;)

Wanted to post exactly the same pic compare.

Yep, it almost jumps to the eye. Hopefully there is more to this structure than pure rock.

Hopefully :). A little bit of an organic feel here and there will bring it much more in line. Current shots just make it looks like eroded rock though. Which suits for sure... but doesn't conjure Giger's style. Let's face it though... imagine building some of those illogical landscapes and buildings of his... it would be like trying to build your own penrose staircase :laugh:.
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: eyeballkid on Mar 23, 2012, 12:55:12 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 22, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
The structure in Prometheus and HR Giger's Harkonnen castle design from the aborted Dune:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg425%2Fmrmagoo6%2FDDM2DDM2.jpg&hash=1b5ee32eb51ddf9c78b626fd03cc6b8532821fcd)

Did Scott dig up Giger's old, unused designs? Giger worked on Alejandro Jodorowsky's version of Dune pre-Alien, and Ridley too worked on Dune after Alien, but left the project due to his brother Frank's death. Enter David Lynch. Anyhow, a return to Giger's old designs?

Thanks! That is what I was seeing. It can't be a coincidence. Ridley wanted to do this stuff in Alien, but was short on budget, so he can now do what he wanted to do, in regards to some of the concepts of Giger. I know the design was made after Alien, but Ridley is obviously still a big fan of his, and he is sneaking in this stuff for the fans!!! We haven't even seen the "monsters" yet. :) Me thinks that Giger designed those too, and Ridley is just lying about Giger just doing Murals...
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: josh_axey on Mar 23, 2012, 12:56:36 AM
Quote from: eyeballkid on Mar 23, 2012, 12:55:12 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 22, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
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...We haven't even seen the "monsters" yet. :) Me thinks that Giger designed those too, and Ridley is just lying about Giger just doing Murals...

One can only hope :).
Title: Re: Project Prometheus Still Uncovered
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 23, 2012, 01:00:07 AM
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 22, 2012, 03:38:59 AM
I like to imagine one of the script review meetings may have went something like this...

Spoiler
Lindelof:  Okay, I must say, this "ancient astronaut" angle is GOLD, Sir Ridley...pure GOLD!  I have managed to incorporate ancient Greek Mythology, Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian, some Mayan, a sprinkle of Egyptian and a few shakes of Nazca, Hindu and the giant pygmies of Beckles.

Sir Ridley:  The giant pygmies of Beckles?

Lindelof:  Well, we could leave them out, if you want.

Sir Ridley:   What about Old Testament stuff?  We need Old Testament stuff...you know, Ezekiel and all that.

Lindelof:  I thought we could save the Bible for the sequel.  No sense in upsetting the Christians, Jews and quite probably the Muslims, at this point.

Sir Ridley:  Hmm...not bad.  I like your thinking.  What about the Druid culture...you know, Stonehenge, standing stones, and all that?

Lindelof:  Well, I thought that might be a bit to "English"...especially for the French market.  As it is, they will be pissed I wasn't able to shoe-horn in the Carnac stones.

Sir Ridley:   Well, what does Spaiht's think about the progress so far?

Lindelof:   Ummm....well, I have been trying to get in touch with him, but apparently he has been on extended leave of absence, due to a serious flare-up of irritable bowel syndrome.

Sir Ridley:  What...surely you can reach his secretary?

Lindelof:  Err...umm...no, his secretary has suddenly come down with a slight case of hemorrhagic fever.

Sir Ridley:  Well give me Spaiht's number.

Lindelof:  It's unlisted...I mean, it has been disconnected.  No, scratch that, I just remembered, he doesn't have a phone.

Sir Ridley:   Well how the f**k to you communicate with him?

Lindelof:  Carrier Pigeons.

Sir Ridley:  But, you are keeping him completely in the loop, and encouraging his input and suggestions...right?

Lindelof:  Oh, yes...yes...of course.  Not to worry.

Sir Ridley:  Okay, back to the topic at hand...what have we missed?

Lindelof:  Can't think of anything...we have definitely covered it all, no question!

Sir Ridley:  Well, what about Norse Mythology?

Lindelof:  ..........................umm, yeah, well of course, Norse Mythology.  Sure.

Sir Ridley:  I don't see anything relating to Norse Mythology in the script?

Lindelof:  Oh, well that was Spaiht's responsibility.

Sir Ridley:  You are sure?

Lindelof:  Umm, absolutely.  As a matter of fact, he was supposed to send over a new draft with the Norse stuff, but the Carrier Pigeons all came down with West Nile, and are out of commission.

Sir Ridley:  Did they?

Lindelof:  Yes, very tragic, Sir.

Sir Ridley:  All right, I want you to hit the books, and integrate all the important Norse myths into this story.  And I mean really get into this research.  I DO NOT want you relying on Wikipedia for any of this shit.

Lindelof:  Perish the thought, sir.  It would never even cross my mind.

Sir Ridley:   Good, good.  Let's meet together same time next week.  I still want you to touch base with Spaiht's on this Norse stuff.

Lindelof:  Yes sir, I will give him a call as soon as we are finished here.

Sir Ridley:  I thought you said he didn't have a phone?

Lindelof:  I meant I will send out a pigeon with the message.

Sir Ridley:  I thought you said they all succumbed to West Nile?

Lindelof:  No, no, no...I didn't mean pigeons, I meant I will use our ultra-secret backup.

Sir Ridley:  And what is that?

Lindelof:  We communicate via Ouija board.

Sir Ridley:  Really...does it work?

Lindelof:  Like a charm.  Speaking of which...I think there might just be an idea for another movie with this.

Sir Ridley:  f**king BRILLIANT !!!!
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Fracking LOL. :laugh: