"[Alien Romulus] joins the prequel series"

[The Eighth Passenger]

I'd rather we forget the prequels ever happened, Scott is a stingy person and loves taking credit for all the work other people did in the original movie while shitting all over it and saying that the Alien is the reason his movies didn't do well, when infact it was his own mediocre script and ideas

I'd recommend you read JW Rinzler's "The Making of Alien" to see to what extent Scott was involved with in making the original film.

Can't recall him ever "taking all the credit" or "shitting" over the original movie? I know he specifically pointed out that Alien was really Dan O'Bannon's baby.

[T Dog]

That said, I do get Engineer vibes from Romulus/Remus, given the Rome inspiration that went into their city in Covenant.

But it's too early to know with any certainty at this point.

It truly is the Ridliest of titles!

[RIP77]

Ok but that does not mean that it is not the same universe even if it does not continue a plot and is more independent like Prometheus.

From PREY it was said that it was independent within the same universe and was not connected to others as it was a remote sequel.

Is  compatible a  prequel and  not conect others movies Alien. Is not continue "universe" Promethes/Covenant in story but is universe Alien equal.

 with it being the same universe and one chronologically prior to Alien but separated chronologic  others movies Alien.

It's a big universe and it would be stupid to do a total reboot when these movies are far apart and don't bother each other to decide on a reboot.


They can tell many stories in a soft reboot in the Alien universe of 79 and not return of zero.

[[cancerblack]]

Ok but that does not mean that it is not the same universe

Nobody has ever claimed this.

[RIP77]

Ok but that does not mean that it is not the same universe

Nobody has ever claimed this.

OK. I am new here and mi english is bad.

[[cancerblack]]

It's okay to be new and have limited English language. However, in English and in this particular context, "not connected to the other films" very likely means that it's simply not a direct sequel to any previous Alien film. A "hard reboot" isn't impossible with that phrasing either, but feels much less likely given what else has been said so far.

[TomT]

Connecting this to Covenant would be so convoluted and reaching, I don't think even Covenant fans would be ok with that kind of closure.

I'd rather we forget the prequels ever happened, Scott is a stingy person and loves taking credit for all the work other people did in the original movie while shitting all over it and saying that the Alien is the reason his movies didn't do well, when infact it was his own mediocre script and ideas

Ridley is a stingy person and I think he should stay far and away from the franchise after all the damage he did to it and continues to do, but I do remember he credited xenomorph for the success of the original film, not himself, when he was doing press for Covenant.

[Nightmare Asylum]

Connecting this to Covenant would be so convoluted and reaching, I don't think even Covenant fans would be ok with that kind of closure.

No need to provide any closure in this (or any other non-Ridley Scott directed film that may dabble in some of what Covenant left open-ended). If the Covenant were to show up on some other world's doorstep full of Alien eggs or black goo or experiments or whatever, with David long since gone and the audience having no idea as to his fate or whereabouts, I would be very ok with that.

[TomT]

No need to provide any closure in this (or any other non-Ridley Scott directed film that may dabble in some of what Covenant left open-ended). If the Covenant were to show up on some other world's doorstep full of Alien eggs or black goo or experiments or whatever, with David long since gone and the audience having no idea as to his fate or whereabouts, I would be very ok with that.

To be honest, Covenant had kinda ballsy/anti-Hollywood ending where bad guy gets a happy ending and good guys get the worst ending, I know it happened only because Covenant sequel never happened, but it's one of the few things about Covenant I kinda liked, not every day you see a big budget studio film where a really evil bad guy literally "walks into the sunsent" (so to speak) with the brightest future ahead of him after triumphantly destroying good guys.

[BlueMarsalis79]

If only the good guys had characters worth caring about.

Romulus will unironically be a soft seaboot in my opinion.

[lv_226]

I made a remark elsewhere in the forums regarding this.

From the Variety comment it's hard to not think that we will be getting a conclusion or continuation to the story from Alien:Covenant. Why? Along with what others have already stated, this film was previously pitched as a standalone story, but we have seen these kinds of marketing shenanigans before. Remember when Prometheus was "not an Alien movie but existed in the same universe"? Also, Fede pitched the story to Ridley Scott. Scott or Scott Free do not own Alien, but it was important to get his involvement with the story. If the colony in this film is made up of relatively young people, it could be akin to what we saw in Raised by Wolves: an upstart colony predominantly made up of young people who encounter mysteries on the home planet where the story is told. Could it be that the Covenant is a form of derelict that is found there? Just speculating. I also thought about this when I saw the crashed ship in the Noah Hawley Alien art (giant WY ship crashed into a metro area with Alien eggs inside). I would be all for the "David storyline" to conclude.

[Kimarhi]

I'd rather we forget the prequels ever happened, Scott is a stingy person and loves taking credit for all the work other people did in the original movie while shitting all over it and saying that the Alien is the reason his movies didn't do well, when infact it was his own mediocre script and ideas

Ridley is a stingy person and I think he should stay far and away from the franchise after all the damage he did to it and continues to do, but I do remember he credited xenomorph for the success of the original film, not himself, when he was doing press for Covenant.

TomT I thought you loved Prometheus. 




Scott deserves credit for Alien.  It is the best movie in the franchise.  His later works definitely leave something to be desired (for 8th passengers take). 

[The Eighth Passenger]

Scott deserves credit for Alien.  It is the best movie in the franchise.  His later works definitely leave something to be desired (for 8th passengers take). 

Hey, no arguing there. 

TomT I thought you loved Prometheus. 

It's probably a love/hate relationship like with you. 

[lv_226]

So, let me ask this of the group: If Ridley Scott shit the bed with the prequels, what would you all have rather seen? Remember, AVP and AVP:Requiem were the latest "Alien" films prior to Prometheus and Covenant. In my opinion, Alien:Isolation has been the most solid strictly "Alien" property since the first three films. Other than that, I am not sure where else the franchise could have been taken? A lot of the expanded universe stuff lives well within their respective mediums, but many would not likely crossover well into a medium to high budget film, in my opinion. I think the franchise has been confined by its tropes (confined spaces, lived-in futuristic aesthetics, corporate motivations, blue-collar professionals caught in the middle, and of course the titular creature) and I struggle to think where it could have gone from AVP. Was Prometheus everything it could have been? I think the film was solid, but I understand why others hate the hell out of it. It isn't without some issues, but I agree that the beast was cooked by the time AVP got done with it. So, now that we are getting a film and TV series, I am seeing that a lot of Scott's contributions via the prequels (opening up the universe, AI politics/bio-ethics, transhumanistic-themes) have made its way in-verse. I'm rambling now. I just don't know what else could be produced without rehashing the films that came before... oh, other than Blomkamp's Alien 3, of course.

[TomT]

TomT I thought you loved Prometheus.

I did, I mean other things: Covenant, death of Prometheus sequel and Blomkamp's Aliens sequel, existence of Howley TV show and Fede's young adult flick. And also I really didn't like how he lied about Blomkamp's film in interviews and even confused his own lies, it wasn't a good look to say the least, and also how he lied about Prometheus sequel throught its development. It's a tough love with Ridley. He's doing some really bad things with Blade Runner too now.