Quote from: Highland on Dec 01, 2019, 01:30:10 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 30, 2019, 12:51:02 PM
Quote from: Highland on Nov 30, 2019, 01:26:18 AM
Predator is only considered more hammy because of the human characters. Both creatures benefit from a more horror based theme regardless of the movie they are in. The only reason you wouldn't put Aliens in Predator is the Earth setting.
Indeed horror benefits both, but hammy characters only benefit Predator. To Alien it does all kinds of damage. imo
Possibly. I don't quite see the difference between the marines and Dutch's squad though.
Alien doesn't suit comedy though that's for sure.
The best AVP would have been the original comic, but Anderson took to many elements, you couldn't make it now.
The Marines whole setup is more realistic. I got the impression that future wars in the Alien verse will be more built on quelling insurgencies than anything else. They had firepower, but in order for that small a squad to work they would have to have firepower and be capable enough as individuals that they could do the job that it takes three or four people to do today. Their 100 round mags, with multiple mags, is what a light machine gunner would carry today and they all carried it, so they already had more firepower than an equivalent squad would have today. They had Doppler for incoming enemy contacts, and NVGs and thermal seemed to be standard issue. I don't know how it is anywhere else, but we had to sign for those things and draw them for night ops and put them back when those operations were over. And had to 550 cord them to our helmets so we wouldn't lose them (or tie thermals to our weapons).
The only thing that I didn't find realistic was the smart gun. A tracking weapon is a cool idea, but the way that it was positioned, if you couldn't go prone when incoming fire started up, then you would be a huge sitting duck.
Predator crew talked a whole bunch of shit and backed it up by being a rescue mission that failed but then involved the absolute massacring of a base full of people with a weapon system a person couldn't physically carry. A minigun has way too much recoil to steady itself when it isn't mounted to something, and it ejects rounds so fast that they guys had to wear flak vest to keep from bruising their ribs.
Rescue missions are the hardest missions to undertake on the planet, and IF you fail, you don't stick around to wipe out a base in enemy territory. Dutch's team was superhuman. That is some Captain America shit if Cap didn't try to keep people alive.
The banter is actually fairly spot on in both movies, because soldiers of any level talk a shit ton of noise to each other. Emotional hardening is just part of the process. If words hurt you then how are you going to react when a 7.62 round caves in your buddy's face?