http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/20/bill-paxton-wants-hudson-in-neill-blomkamps-alien-sequel
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/19/bill-paxton-aliens-reboot
I'm all for camp-retcon, but I dunno about this lol...pretty sure Hudson is dead.
Quote from: Adam802 on May 20, 2015, 07:20:26 PM
I'm all for camp-retcon, but I dunno about this lol...pretty sure Hudson is dead.
You better just start dealing with it, Hudson! Listen to me! Hudson, just deal with it, because you're dead and I'm sick of your bullshit.
He's being facetious/joking.
Paxton just made fun of Blomkamp's whole idea! :P
It would bring a tear to my eye.
He didn't die when he got pulled down!!
I knew it!
After all these years!!
Those motherf#%^kers died!!
Lol
Here's a thought for you guys....
Hudson, right.... Hudson didn't die on screen. They don't kill you, remember, they take you alive.
So the aliens took Hudson from operations, a new host: then they dropped him because they were sick of his winging. Left alone and without a way off the rock, he ran from the colony and survived the processor reaching critical mass.
Fresh as a daisy, ready for a new film.
Hudson Lives.
I got ninja'd! >:(
F$&k'n eh!
Sure why the f**k not. Let's add the entire gang from ALIENS back in, Burke too......
No but obviously Hudson will not be in the movie. And it is a bit funny since out of everyone Bill Paxton is probably in the best shape including super chunk Carrie Henn
It's all in jest. There'd be some even more serious retconning than ignoring 2 films.
I don't think anything will come of this.
Wait I thought Wierzbowski and Dietrich were rescued by Supreme Badass Sgt. Apone and ran into Hudson and Spunkmeyer while escaping from the APU? :laugh:
This must be a joke - coz this series turned into one years ago.
These characters should just stay dead coz the way this is heading, Aliens are becoming meaningless as the deadliest species in the Universe and are no longer deadly.
Fox should just sell this limp and tepid series to Disney, where such soft cock family friendly entertainment belongs.
-Windebieste.
Ok.... so he was taken to be cocooned but when Ripley found newt and attacked, the queen dislodged herself to attack Ripley. After she pursued Ripley the remaining aliens felt the threat to the queen through the hive mentality. They then abandoned their mission (to harvest host), headed to the cooling tower of the atmosphere processor hell bent on revenge thus leaving Hudson somewhere between the hive and the atmosphere processor unconscious. The atmosphere processor explodes... killing all the aliens. Hudson who is underground somewhere in a service tunnel is safe from the explosion. He awakens due to the sudden violent explosion. He crawls out of the service tunnel only to find the atmo wasted. Realizing his only means of getting off the planet was just destroyed. He sits down on a rock and starts laughing hysterically. After a minute or so he stops laughing and reaches into his cargo pocket pulling out a deck of cards and starts playing solitare. With a smile on his face he sits there thinking about the rescue team....it never crosses his mind that the atmo responsible for the air he was breathing just exploded and was now filling the air with radioactive dust. (End scene with huge mushroom cloud rising into the sky and lighting storm rolling in from background).
W-Y cloned Hudson and put him the cocoon. The real Hudson is still out there man.
Aliens: Colonial Marines is canon!
Just kidding.
Although if this happened might as well let A:CM be canon at that point.
Quote from: Robot Sentry on May 20, 2015, 10:44:45 PM
W-Y cloned Hudson and put him the cocoon. The real Hudson is still out there man.
Aliens: Colonial Marines is canon!
Just kidding.
Although if this happened might as well let A:CM be canon at that point.
Right
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"Where's Apone!? Where's Apone?!?!"
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"The Sarge is Gone! Let's get the Fu@k outta here!!!"
Oh yeah!!
That's hilarious!
Nothing against Bill Paxton and Hudson, in fact it would be really badass he could come back but how on the Earth? Even in an alternative movie universe is 99% impossible, probably as a memory or recall as Biehn in Terminator 2 deleted scene.
Wait:
Hudson's dad.
And technically, he'd still be able to be called Hudson.
That's one canonical loop hole circumvented. Now for everything else.
Quote from: Everlasting Undead on May 21, 2015, 05:56:19 AM
Wait:
Hudson's dad.
And technically, he'd still be able to be called Hudson.
That's one canonical loop hole circumvented. Now for everything else.
Might as well make him a mysterious twin who is also a CM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on May 21, 2015, 06:24:49 AM
Quote from: Everlasting Undead on May 21, 2015, 05:56:19 AM
Wait:
Hudson's dad.
And technically, he'd still be able to be called Hudson.
That's one canonical loop hole circumvented. Now for everything else.
Might as well make him a mysterious twin who is also a CM
Could pull a full James Cameron's Avatar and make all of the marines in aliens...... disposable avatars.
NEWSFLASH: ACTOR WOULD LIKE TO REPRISE ROLE FOR WHICH HE IS MOST FAMOUS.
:P
I really wouldn't read much into it guys and girls.
Hope. Is all we got.
And sharp sticks.
I think you mean shark sticks?
Hudson standalone movie is the only cure.
Quote from: windebieste on May 20, 2015, 10:17:30 PM
This must be a joke - coz this series turned into one years ago.
These characters should just stay dead coz the way this is heading, Aliens are becoming meaningless as the deadliest species in the Universe and are no longer deadly.
Fox should just sell this limp and tepid series to Disney, where such soft cock family friendly entertainment belongs.
-Windebieste.
It's obviously a joke. Bill is funny.
Far fetched solution - but the most probable if they wanted to do it ... open the new Alien film with a short flashback of the last stages of the colony ... whilst Ripley is searching for Newt there's an explosion, that explosion dislodges the cocoon Hudson was in (already impregnated), he makes a run for it and finds the Dropship perrched on the landing platform. He sneaks aboard (fully knowing they wouldn't let him on if he was infected).
Everything else plays out as it did until the Sulaco docks at wherever.
#bringbackhudson.
Let's stop with all the silliness this is a movie.
Let's get creative and bring him back!
He was found underground when the wreckage of Hadley's Hope was cleared. He rescued a colonists daughter from the hive and tried to escape with her. Now he's on a mission back to Earth to stop Weyland Yutani returning with the Derelict.
"The game's not over, man!"
I'd love to see Hudson and an Alien escape the explosion and have to live with each other inside of a cave. Be sort of a remake from another movie but what the hell it's funkin-A!, Man.
Enemy Mine
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Quote from: Vermillion on May 21, 2015, 10:24:24 PM
Enemy Mine
Was thinking about the movie where an American and Japanese solider had to survive together during WW2 of which Enemy Mine itself is a remake of... but that works too!
I think Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune was in it ...to the google cave... Hell in the Pacific!
In all seriousness, f**k the noise that Aliens Colonial Marines is event remotely considered canon.
I'm all for Hudson getting cocooned and escaping before getting face-hugged, maybe waking up underground right as the atmo plant nukes out. Part of the resin breaks off, freeing an arm, and get has to frantically fight his way out and wrestle with a good ol' finger spider. f**k, he could even pull a knife from his armor and try to slice it off but the acid bleeds all over his hand and melts it off.
There ya go. The character escapes, but not unscathed. He scrounges some gear to get some comm equipment functioning (he was some kind of technician, as seen by him bypassing the door after the team first landed), holes up for a few weeks while he waits for a USCM rescue team.
All this time, he thinks everyone else is dead.
Or have him record some video/audio journal entries ala The Thing, and have them show up later.
Quote from: Origin on May 22, 2015, 02:27:42 AMI'm all for Hudson getting cocooned and escaping before getting face-hugged, maybe waking up underground right as the atmo plant nukes out. Part of the resin breaks off, freeing an arm, and get has to frantically fight his way out and wrestle with a good ol' finger spider.
...Totally glossing over the fact the AP explosion will turn the entire colony (including anywhere Hudson could conceivably be cocooned) into "a vapour cloud the size of Nebraska".
Having Hudson live is even more of a slap in the face than
ACM's Hicks retcon was.
Indeed. There's no way he could get far enough away in the time they've got. Isn't Nebraska like 200 miles across?
Unless...they went the way of the Aliens treatment and had an EEV/shuttle in the AP itself that Hudson comes across.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 22, 2015, 07:43:09 AMIsn't Nebraska like 200 miles across?
210 x 430, apparently.
Of course, it's a figure of speech so Bishop probably didn't mean it literally (because that would be one
hell of an explosion). But even so, there's no way Hudson could have lived.
If he was under enough rock he could survive the blast. But the blast isn't the problem. The radioactive dust cloud from a thermonuclear explosion would be the problem. They can linger for several weeks....or longer. And if it happens to start raining that radioactive material is going to be brought back down and contaminate the soil. So unless he stays far enough underground to avoid exposure until rescue with a somehow untainted water source and food source he would surely die even if he had survived the initial blast.
But hey....it's the movies I guess anything is possible.
This is such a bad idea it might actually be good. Imagine everything is going to shit. Hicks and Rips are screwed and out comes Hudson!
I hope nobody is taking this seriously...
Haha!
Die MotherF$&ker!
Lol
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 22, 2015, 07:47:47 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 22, 2015, 07:43:09 AMIsn't Nebraska like 200 miles across?
210 x 430, apparently.
Of course, it's a figure of speech so Bishop probably didn't mean it literally (because that would be one hell of an explosion). But even so, there's no way Hudson could have lived.
He's also talking about the vapour cloud, not the explosion. You could bend things with that, but Paxton's joking... though a Hudson spin-off would be the guiltiest pleasure...
Quote from: Super Predator on May 22, 2015, 12:12:48 AM
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Speaking of Paxton the Punk in The Terminator, I have a theory...
(contains harsh language and Terminator Genisys spoilers)
THE STEVE CONNOR THEORYThe twist, Punk Paxton's character also has Connor as a last name. I mean it's a common name. Punk rawkin' Steve Connor survives and this is a turning point for him. He joins the Army and gets an education via the tuition money from his military service, and becomes a computer engineer. Steve's son Jon follows in his father's footsteps, joining the military and getting an education, eventually going into the tech industry working for Microsoft and then for DARPA.
So the real John Connor is not this Jason Clarke guy that get's nano-ma-tized in T-Genisys, it's son of punk rawk Paxton.
Now... This is where it gets funky.
This Steve Connor (Paxton) was the original John Connor's dad in the un-f**ked with timeline where Kyle Reese wasn't sent back. A few weeks later he meets Sarah Connor (the actual Sarah Connor played by Linda Hamilton). They immediately hit it off, "what! your last name is Connor, that's my last name too!"
They joke about how they could get married and Sarah wouldn't even need to change her last name.
Skynet, however, knew of this Steve Connor. The supercomputer villain had some records, even though lots of info was lost due to Judgment Day and the war that followed. Skynet did have some police records though. You see what happened is that in the unaltered timeline where the Terminator never travelled back to 1984, Steve and his punk friends were hanging out at Griffith Observatory, just as they were in the film. The cops showed up on patrol and saw these unsavory youths hanging out there, stopped and questioned them, and found drugs on them (pot and some coke). Of course one of them also had a knife, and they were drinking. The observatory grounds were also closed, after hours and all that. So in addition to the other charges Steve and his punk buddies got hit with a trespassing charge.
Besides the vague knowledge of Sarah Connor living in Los Angeles, Skynet had this concrete evidence of Steve Connor being arrested at Griffith Observatory on that exact night at that exact time. So it sent a Terminator about twenty minutes earlier than the cops were to show up. It was an easy first objective for the Terminator before moving onto the more challenging mission of killing all the Sarah Connors, just to be sure they got her. Skynet anticipated that Sarah could reproduce with another man, but it never anticipated that it would be Kyle Reese.
In T-Gen the other T-800 ("pops") is waiting for the original T-800. He prevents the original T-800 from killing the punks. This is implied in the trailers for the upcoming Terminator film... a brawl between the old man T-800 and naked original T-800.
I don't care about Hudson... he's gone.
I don't need any more Ripley or Hicks, either.
Just bring back Jones the cat. That's all I care about. Jones at least survives legitimately without BS justifications.
Coz if Rippers, Hickies and Huddo can come back from the dead, Jonsie has still got all of his 9 lives to spare.
-Windebieste.
Raul Reiser in talks! Wtf
Muhahaha!!
Actually, Hudson coming back needs a sight less retconning than Ripley and Hicks.
It would be great. be thankful we have " Micheal Biehn in " Alien 5 " ( Default Title ).
Quote from: Gridseeker on May 21, 2015, 04:56:58 AM
Nothing against Bill Paxton and Hudson, in fact it would be really badass he could come back but how on the Earth? Even in an alternative movie universe is 99% impossible, probably as a memory or recall as Biehn in Terminator 2 deleted scene.
There's quite a few ways in which they could do it, the easiest would be this:
Whilst Ripley is in search of Newt, the explosions from the processor free Hudson from his cocoon (post impregnation), he manages to find the Dropship at the landing pad and sneaks on board (knowing that they'd kill him if they knew he was carrying an alien). He stowes on board , hiding until the rest go into hypersleep then does the same thing.
Which is pretty far-fetched but hey, it don't involve clones, time-travelling or secret underground bases. Alternatively they could go the 'River of Pain' approach and have him find a mysterious evac-ship - but that would be a worse explanation I think.
Personally, if they want to include him then I think it'd work better if they showed in some retrospective footage ... like all of the marines' head-cam footage is automatically uploaded to the Sulaco and they could include him in a post-mission review, showing what happens to him after he's taken (maybe he manages to escape his coccoon but never reaches the landing strip .. adding more guilt to Hicks etc..).
Maybe he waited till he was one on one with his abductor in one of the tunnels. Pulls out a sidearm aims at the back of the aliens head and empties the clip. After killing the alien he scurried off into the dark tunnels trying to find his way back to the surface. Because he's disoriented from a concussion he loses his bearings and gets lost not finding his way back above ground until after the explosion.
Quote from: Valaquen on May 20, 2015, 07:55:22 PM
He's being facetious/joking.
On page one. And this discussion is still going.
No, Hudson is an immortal descendant of the engineers!
Quote from: Omegazilla on May 24, 2015, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on May 20, 2015, 07:55:22 PM
He's being facetious/joking.
On page one. And this discussion is still going.
I get that he was joking. These are just some what if hudson did live through it situations. More for humor than anything else. I don't think anyone who has posted in this thread actually expects Paxton to try to get into the film. I think we're all just having a good laugh picturing how it could happen though.
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 24, 2015, 10:33:44 PM
No, Hudson is an immortal descendant of the engineers!
We're all destined to become immortal descendants of the Engineers! :P
Behold our greatness! *Drinks Black Goo*
That's how Hudson made it through, he found a Engineer soda can, popped it open while being dragged by Aliens and quickly took a sip of the holy life creating, ever mutating fluid.
Then the Aliens turned and faced him, and it was their turn to realize that it was "game over man, game over".
(They did dig his new bald shiny head though, reminded them of themselves.)
Thanks to Hudson, a new peace was brokered between Engineer descended bald head humanity and all of Alienkind.
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Quote from: whiterabbit on May 24, 2015, 10:33:44 PM
No, Hudson is an immortal descendant of the engineers!
We're all destined to become immortal descendants of the Engineers! :P
Behold our greatness! *Drinks Black Goo*
That's how Hudson made it through, he found a Engineer soda can, popped it open while being dragged by Aliens and quickly took a sip of the holy life creating, ever mutating fluid.
Then the Aliens turned and faced him, and it was their turn to realize that it was "game over man, game over".
(They did dig his new bald shiny head though, reminded them of themselves.)
Thanks to Hudson, a new peace was brokered between Engineer descended bald head humanity and all of Alienkind.
Next stop: Earth.
Dear Lord Jesus this can't be happening Man! This can't be happening!
Signals clean. Range 20 metres
"Five meters man...four.....what the hell"
Definitely one of my favorite parts of the movie vermillion. Excellent quote
The next film should have the entire cast of Aliens return with no explanation whatsoever.
It should also bring back Kane.
No explanation as to why he has a giant hole in his chest, just put him in it since he has "first hand experience" and could be really useful in providing information about how it feels to be chest bursted. Hey, it would make for a good motivational speech!
Quote from: Kelgaard on May 26, 2015, 02:49:56 AM
The next film should have the entire cast of Aliens return with no explanation whatsoever.
Yea, sure, they never landed on LV426 but instead drifted for 245 years until crashing on the engineer home world. Newt would still be 12 and without any explanation where she came from though. :laugh:
Movie opens. They all wake up from cryo sleep, look at each other in amazement, then relief. They start laughing and high fiving. Burke says "This is so... nuts..."
Quote from: Kelgaard on May 26, 2015, 03:05:20 AM
Movie opens. They all wake up from cryo sleep, look at each other in amazement, then relief. They start laughing and high fiving. Burke says "This is so... nuts..."
So it was all just a training simulation while in hyper sleep? :P
In any case Jonsey needs to be in the next movie and if Bloomkamp really is an alien fanboy... this will certainly happen.
Ok, idea for possible Hudson return, may need some kind of tweeking but here goes, and its just an idea. Hicks says in a conversation, 17 days till rescue? But the company sent them on this suicide mission and MAY have followed them to LV426. Hiding and waiting for Burke to do good on his promise and deliver an impregenated and cryo sleeping Ripley and Newt. The rest of the surviving marines would have been, as mentioned, jetisoned in their cryotubes. Ok, plan starts to go wrong for Burke after Hicks says...lets waste him, no offence. This is when the aliens attack, give Burke enough distrraction to send a signal or message to say plans gone wrong. The companyt in their ship near the planet in hiding send down a decret team, only 1 alive is Hudson, either with or without an alien in him, and they take him back to base. Ok, this is just a rough idea but what does everyone think?
Sorry for the typo's too btw.
Also alot of Neil Bloomkamps pictures he drew seemed to give a big inclusion of company involvment which adds to a possible company idea in bringing back Hudson.
Troll
How alien 5 is turning into we might as well retcon Aliens. How about making a GOOD AVP movie that retconns Alien Resurrection there the alien franchise ends at alien 3 which was supposed to happen.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jun 20, 2015, 01:44:46 PM
How alien 5 is turning into we might as well retcon Aliens.
We still know
nothing about the story, whatsoever, aside from how Ripley and Hicks are going to
somehow appear (and we still don't know if Hicks is due to a flashback scene or dream).
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jun 20, 2015, 09:50:43 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jun 20, 2015, 01:44:46 PM
How alien 5 is turning into we might as well retcon Aliens.
We still know nothing about the story, whatsoever, aside from how Ripley and Hicks are going to somehow appear (and we still don't know if Hicks is due to a flashback scene or dream).
Agreed we know nothing of the storyline. But it's highly unlikely they are coming back just for a flashback. If that were the case they would just simply ask for the rights to use a scene from the film and put the actors names in the credits. Seems like overkill to hire him back and pay his salary just to do a flashback scene. As much as I hate to say it I feel like they're going to try to pull a "bait and switch" as they did in the ACM game. Claim that hicks was awakened before cryo tubes were ejected and that wasn't his body in the eev that crashed.
Not if it's as I speculated a while back and follows the same template as his extended cameo in 'Terminator 2'. The chances are that it's Hicks, as we know him, but T2 still set a precedent (more so for it being the same actor).
Alien 5 has not been confirmed by FOX so we are just assuming.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jun 21, 2015, 01:01:32 AM
Not if it's as I speculated a while back and follows the same template as his extended cameo in 'Terminator 2'. The chances are that it's Hicks, as we know him, but T2 still set a precedent (more so for it being the same actor).
True. I just feel like that would be a difficult task. I get what you're saying I just don't think it's plausible. Sure they did it in T2 with a 10 minute cameo but we're talking about over 20 years worth of age reversal. Even with makeup and cgi i feel like it would be difficult to make his character believable in that timeline. They'd have to use more paint and bondo than a car restoration. If it were a dream it would have to be a dream years into the future. And what would be the point of an aged hicks in a dream. She has always been the strong type so why would she need a dream or vision to tell her to keep going. They were starting to get close but weren't that close. Plus I doubt anyone would make a movie based entirely on a dream. Unless it was done as her surviving alien 3 and explaining what "actually" happened between the films. That would be ok.
Like we said in a podcast, a little while back, Hicks looks acid-scarred as f**k. They won't need any age-regression. He's meant to look worse for wear.
He's probably the real deal, but as I say, it could just as easily be a dream sequence or even a continuing hallucination because of the repeated psychological trauma Ripley has been enduring.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jun 21, 2015, 03:26:52 PM
Like we said in a podcast, a little while back, Hicks looks acid-scarred as f**k. They won't need any age-regression. He's meant to look worse for wear.
He's probably the real deal, but as I say, it could just as easily be a dream sequence or even a continuing hallucination because of the repeated psychological trauma Ripley has been enduring.
I haven't subscribed to the podcast so I wouldn't know what was covered in it. As far as the scarring yes it would cover the facial aging well but what are the chances that she would have a dream or hallucination that she and hicks are aged. Never met a woman who likes to think of herself aging let alone have a dream of it. Lol
Also on that note his face was only minimally burned so the aging would be the only logical way to tie him in without makeup or cgi. I'm interested to see how they're going to bring it all together though. Can't wait to get more plot details and conceptual drawings.
Quote from: pred169 on Jun 21, 2015, 03:53:21 PM
I haven't subscribed to the podcast so I wouldn't know what was covered in it. As far as the scarring yes it would cover the facial aging well but what are the chances that she would have a dream or hallucination that she and hicks are aged. Never met a woman who likes to think of herself aging let alone have a dream of it. Lol
Which either means she really is Ripley 8, the concept art is slightly off or something happened to the Sulaco's journey.
QuoteAlso on that note his face was only minimally burned so the aging would be the only logical way to tie him in without makeup or cgi. I'm interested to see how they're going to bring it all together though. Can't wait to get more plot details and conceptual drawings.
Look at the Woodruff stuff:
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That's a literal interpretation of the concept art. His age isn't going to be a problem if that's how it's going to look like.
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Quote from: pred169 on Jun 21, 2015, 03:53:21 PM
I haven't subscribed to the podcast so I wouldn't know what was covered in it. As far as the scarring yes it would cover the facial aging well but what are the chances that she would have a dream or hallucination that she and hicks are aged. Never met a woman who likes to think of herself aging let alone have a dream of it. Lol
Which either means she really is Ripley 8, the concept art is slightly off or something happened to the Sulaco's journey.
QuoteAlso on that note his face was only minimally burned so the aging would be the only logical way to tie him in without makeup or cgi. I'm interested to see how they're going to bring it all together though. Can't wait to get more plot details and conceptual drawings.
Look at the Woodruff stuff:
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That's a literal interpretation of the concept art. His age isn't going to be a problem if that's how it's going to look like.
Yeah I've seen the concept art. But like I said I've watched that movie probably a thousand times and I've looked at his face since the concept art came out. His face just wasn't that badly burned. So yeah the art would have to be off scale. I guess if they play the "I hope Noone paid that much attention to detail during that part" card it might work. And I realize it's just concept art so it very well could be that something else happened during the sulaco journey. Which is more what I'm hoping for myself. I've seen tons of burn victims throughout my career and that concept art looks more like the result of a flash burn...not acid. So I hope that's how they plot it out. He is awakened during the emergency cryogenic compartment fire, tries to save the others, and is flash burned in the process. The tubes are ejected before he can regain his bearings from the burn. Meanwhile he manages to suppress the fire and reroute the sulaco to fury 161. He sends a transmission to mission control about what has happened. WY intercepts the transmission and pulls data on the flight recorder sees that Ripley was impregnated and notifies a high security containment team (mercenaries) to get the specimen at all cost. The team is already close to fury 161. They find the sulaco board it and then take hicks hostage. Thus you have....... alien 2.5 [emoji23]
Quote from: pred169 on Jun 21, 2015, 03:53:21 PM
I haven't subscribed to the podcast so I wouldn't know what was covered in it.
You should. It's good stuff. :)
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/podcasts/
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jun 20, 2015, 09:50:43 PMWe still know nothing about the story, whatsoever, aside from how Ripley and Hicks are going to somehow appear (and we still don't know if Hicks is due to a flashback scene or dream).
We don't even know if Hicks is in it. There's been literally no official word on his being in the film, has there? People are just assuming from images that may or may not have anything to do with what actually makes it into the film.
All we know for sure is the film is happening and Blomkamp's directing. Even Weaver hasn't been officially cast yet, although she's almost certainly in it.
Quote from: pred169 on Jun 21, 2015, 09:34:02 PM
Yeah I've seen the concept art. But like I said I've watched that movie probably a thousand times and I've looked at his face since the concept art came out. His face just wasn't that badly burned. So yeah the art would have to be off scale. I guess if they play the "I hope Noone paid that much attention to detail during that part" card it might work. And I realize it's just concept art so it very well could be that something else happened during the sulaco journey. Which is more what I'm hoping for myself. I've seen tons of burn victims throughout my career and that concept art looks more like the result of a flash burn...not acid.
Looks pretty bad to me and consistent with the concept art.
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I'm not saying that's not the case just that the concept art looks more to me like a flash burn to me. I mean in the original his ear is still intact and there's slight burning on forehead but more severe around the left eye orbit. In the concept the ear is pretty much gone and he has a lot of scarring on the entire left side of his head including a receded hairline due to searing the pores closed.
Which would be more consistent with a high heat flash burn.
Quote from: pred169 on Jun 22, 2015, 01:59:45 PMI mean in the original his ear is still intact and there's slight burning on forehead but more severe around the left eye orbit.
To be fair, in the original the burns magically don't appear until he gets outside the colony... His face is fine as long as he's in the lift.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 22, 2015, 02:34:13 PM
Quote from: pred169 on Jun 22, 2015, 01:59:45 PMI mean in the original his ear is still intact and there's slight burning on forehead but more severe around the left eye orbit.
To be fair, in the original the burns magically don't appear until he gets outside the colony... His face is fine as long as he's in the lift.
See that's what I was thinking. It just wasn't very prominent until he got outside. And even then it just wasn't a very bad burn.
"Get it off!! Get it off!!"
He is not burned at all on the face.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jun 22, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
"Get it off!! Get it off!!"
He is not burned at all on the face.
Indeed. Newt was just playing doctor, doctor with him on the Sulaco afterwards.
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Quote from: Vermillion on Jun 22, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
"Get it off!! Get it off!!"
He is not burned at all on the face.
I think he caught a little backsplash from when it hit the armor. Either way it wasn't enough to explain that much scar tissue on the concept drawing.
But look at his face when he is yelling those lines.
Nothing on his face.
Drake was immediately SCARRED and melted.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jun 22, 2015, 10:23:24 PM
But look at his face when he is yelling those lines.
Nothing on his face.
Drake was immediately SCARRED and melted.
Agreed.... which supports what I was saying earlier. The scar tissue in the conceptual drawings looks more like a flash burn.
Although I do remember hicks covering his face after he shot the alien in the elevator. Maybe he remembered what happened to drake and as a result covered his face. And drake took a direct spray to the face from the acid. I mean you could clearly see all the acid hit him. Hicks incident looked more like it grazed the face while he was covering and the rest splashed up off the armor.
QuoteBut look at his face when he is yelling those lines.
Nothing on his face.
Drake was immediately SCARRED and melted.
He didn't get as much acid on him as Drake. Also, the acid would take it's time to eat through his skin, which might be why the actual damage is not immediately visible.
The artist did paint in a little too much damage around his lower jaw and lips though. Same with the tip of his ear and left nostril.