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Title: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Russ840 on Oct 25, 2021, 07:02:42 AM


Marvel are pumping these out quickly
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: RidgeTop on Oct 25, 2021, 07:25:37 AM
Nice, this means the entire DH Aliens history will be available again, save for the F&S and L&D ones but those are really part of an AvP arc. Hopefully they'll also get on some paperback re-releases of the individual stories. As much as I like them, not everyone wants these heavy books.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Some Old Dude on Oct 25, 2021, 09:39:58 AM
Awesome. I've only read William Gibsons Alien 3 and I think the first issue or two of Defiance. I hear Dead Orbit is pretty great, can't wait to check it out.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Xiggz456 on Oct 25, 2021, 11:26:36 AM
Cool! I like that Dead Orbit's cover is the cover art Marvel chose for this. Would love to see Stokoe return to the franchise. Here's Stokoe on one of Marvel's Venom comics drawing Venom-Pool

https://images.app.goo.gl/nC67xk7NKHFbeiA78 (https://images.app.goo.gl/nC67xk7NKHFbeiA78)
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Engineer on Oct 25, 2021, 04:28:33 PM
I wonder which version of the 2016 free comic book day issue they're including... they original version with the Big Chap or the one with the pretorian-thing instead...
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Russ840 on Oct 25, 2021, 09:22:44 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 25, 2021, 11:26:36 AM
Cool! I like that Dead Orbit's cover is the cover art Marvel chose for this. Would love to see Stokoe return to the franchise. Here's Stokoe on one of Marvel's Venom comics drawing Venom-Pool

https://images.app.goo.gl/nC67xk7NKHFbeiA78 (https://images.app.goo.gl/nC67xk7NKHFbeiA78)

I would love him to flesh out his original pitch for his Aliens comic for marvel.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Phil Hooper on Oct 26, 2021, 11:48:31 AM
How about a re-release of the Alien vs. Predator Series and a re-release of the Alien and Predator cross over comics!
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 27, 2021, 05:57:20 AM
I'd expect one to come once we've got the Predator ones too.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: judge death on Oct 27, 2021, 01:43:56 PM
No need, have them all from dark horse original run^^
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 28, 2021, 10:29:38 AM
Good for you. Lots of people don't.

On topic, I'm glad Marvel have carried through with these and done the lot. I've said it before and I'll say it again - the debacle over that first cover aside, Marvel have smashed it with these imo. They've done a far more comprehensive job of collecting everything than Dark Horse ever did. For people like me who've not really got any of the comics and were slightly daunted by the prospect of trying to find them all, these collections have made it super simple.

Now if we could just get some more of them actually released... Seems ages since volume one came out.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2021, 08:40:09 AM
The second is due Jan 11th currently. Will have to see if it hits that release this time.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: VincentVegaFFF on Mar 31, 2022, 01:40:21 PM
Now delayed to January 24 2023.
Title: Re: Marvel’s Aliens the Original Years Omnibus Vol 3
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 14, 2023, 11:43:15 AM
Apologies if there's a dedicated thread for #4 that I've missed, but Forbidden Planet just took my payment for that so I guess it'll be here before too long.
Title: Re: Re: Marvel’s Aliens the Original Years Omnibus Vol 3
Post by: Engineer on Mar 16, 2023, 07:35:37 PM
My copy of #4 is "processing"

Which cover did you go for? I was really torn on this one. I love Stokoe's artwork but I went for the variant because I grabbed the variant for all the others and decided to stay consistent...
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 16, 2023, 08:09:56 PM
My local has a copy in but wasn't sure I wanted this one as I've got all the trades for the modern stuff. Any interesting extras in this volume?
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 16, 2023, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Mar 16, 2023, 07:35:37 PMMy copy of #4 is "processing"

Which cover did you go for? I was really torn on this one. I love Stokoe's artwork but I went for the variant because I grabbed the variant for all the others and decided to stay consistent...

Can you show this visually plz?
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Engineer on Mar 17, 2023, 12:46:26 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 16, 2023, 08:09:56 PMMy local has a copy in but wasn't sure I wanted this one as I've got all the trades for the modern stuff. Any interesting extras in this volume?
I don't know yet. But maybe... less likely for the new stuff but we'll see.


Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 16, 2023, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Mar 16, 2023, 07:35:37 PMMy copy of #4 is "processing"

Which cover did you go for? I was really torn on this one. I love Stokoe's artwork but I went for the variant because I grabbed the variant for all the others and decided to stay consistent...

Can you show this visually plz?

It's the same art as one of the dust to dust variants, so it should be familiar. See link below.

https://www.atomicempire.com/Item/321065?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=pla_books&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2-WE0N7h_QIVsRR9Ch0XowJFEAQYAiABEgIJ2_D_BwE


I think they got lazy with volume 4 though. Because they didn't bother coming up with a new cover (whether plagiarized or not) for the standard version. They just reused Stokoe's dead orbit issue 1 cover, which is honestly my favorite cover art of all time!

https://www.atomicempire.com/Item/321064?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=pla_books&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo9WPm9_h_QIV5xWtBh3YAQa-EAQYASABEgJYUfD_BwE


So, I think the biggest benefit of volume 4 is going to be for the completionists who never got their hands on the defiance library edition, the dead orbit deluxe hardcover, the ACM prequel they gave out a at SDCC and/or the isolation prequel they gave out at SDCC.

The ACM and isolation prequels have had digital copies floating around, but there is a pinup gallery of artwork at the end of the ACM comic that's missing from the digital copy. I bet you'll get that full pinup gallery here in volume 4.

I think the defiance library edition had some concept art at the end that wasn't available anywhere else... but I can't remember for sure now. It might have been in the standard 2 Vol. Graphic novels too.

There was definitely new content in the dead orbit deluxe hardcover though, plus a new cover art for it. Im sure that content will be in this volume 4 release too.

Beyond that, there MIGHT be two other pieces of content that I know of that could find their way into marvel's volume 4. One was an image of concept art of a queen by James Stokoe that was never included in any dark horse books; I stumbled across it in that book "Grunt" which is full of unreleased/incomplete work by Stokoe. Then I know Tristan jones had an alternate version of that free-comic-Book-day issue of defiance where that praetorian creature was more like the big chap; at the time fox thought it was too similar to something ridley Scott was doing in Covenant so they sent it back and asked Tristan to change it. The change is what you'll find in every digital copy of that comic and every reprint of it, but a few hard copies had already gone to print before they could make the change so there's a few of those issues out in the wild with the original big chap art. Maybe that alternate version will appear in here too. We'll see...


Here's the Stokoe image I was talking about

https://twitter.com/engineer_lv426/status/1576407357416173569?s=46&t=7Hw57af4Vx-8BX46Zoeo0g


And here's a thread with several images comparing the original big-chap version of the defiance comic I was talking about, with the version they changed it to with the praetorian thing instead:

https://twitter.com/engineer_lv426/status/1404676474951507968?s=46&t=7Hw57af4Vx-8BX46Zoeo0g
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Engineer on Mar 17, 2023, 05:40:10 AM
Update: I confirmed from a friend who has Vol. 4 already that they have the praetorian-version of "defiance: extravehicular" (free comic book day 2016). They might still have the big chap version in there too as part of the extras, but I suspect not.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 17, 2023, 10:34:31 AM
Quote from: Engineer on Mar 16, 2023, 07:35:37 PMWhich cover did you go for? I was really torn on this one. I love Stokoe's artwork but I went for the variant because I grabbed the variant for all the others and decided to stay consistent...

I got the variant, mostly because I got the original covers for the first three (sorry re:Land) and the Stokoe art is just too ingrained in my memory as the cover for Dead Orbit, whereas the variant seemed more like an omnibus cover. Kind of annoyed they crapped out on doing an original cover for this one.

Quote from: Engineer on Oct 25, 2021, 04:28:33 PMI wonder which version of the 2016 free comic book day issue they're including... they original version with the Big Chap or the one with the pretorian-thing instead...

My copy's supposed to be arriving in a couple of hours so I'll let you know.

(Sorry, Engineer, didn't see your second post at the time of writing. But I'll have a look at whether the unedited art is in there anywhere.)

Quote from: Engineer on Mar 17, 2023, 12:46:26 AMThen I know Tristan jones had an alternate version of that free-comic-Book-day issue of defiance where that praetorian creature was more like the big chap; at the time fox thought it was too similar to something ridley Scott was doing in Covenant so they sent it back and asked Tristan to change it. The change is what you'll find in every digital copy of that comic and every reprint of it, but a few hard copies had already gone to print before they could make the change so there's a few of those issues out in the wild with the original big chap art.

One of the few physical comics I had before these collections was the original version of that short with the unedited Big Chap artwork.

That story was so bizarre. It was clearly intended as a sneak peak of what was to come in the series, but then it never came. Kinda sums up what a mess I found that comic to be.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 17, 2023, 11:31:05 AM
Just enjoy the first 8 or so issues and leave it at that. lol
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Engineer on Mar 17, 2023, 03:01:13 PM
I always thought of "extravehicular" as a deleted scene because clearly they went another way with it lol

Once I found out about the artistic change to that one though, I sought out a physical copy. I found one on Amazon for $4. Not bad, even if I didn't get it free lol maybe it'll be worth something one day, maybe not. But honestly, I think the big chap version is far better.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 17, 2023, 05:55:12 PM
Can confirm the omnibus has the altered version of Extravehicular and I didn't notice anything about the original version in the back. Tons of concept art from Defiance, Dead Orbit and Resistance though.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Engineer on Mar 17, 2023, 06:07:11 PM
Did they get Stokoe's queen sketch in there?
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 17, 2023, 06:50:22 PM
Afraid not.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Engineer on Mar 17, 2023, 07:08:00 PM
Damn
That's a shame
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Xiggz456 on Mar 19, 2023, 10:35:59 AM
I'll be getting this soon but one thing that the "Dead Orbit" trade had over the oversized hardback release was a more Aliens inspired pitch that was 3-4 pages long but still really good. So I've been wondering if that will be included in the omnibus or not.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 19, 2023, 10:47:11 AM
It's in the bonus section at the back.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Xiggz456 on Mar 19, 2023, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 19, 2023, 10:47:11 AMIt's in the bonus section at the back.

Noice!
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Engineer on Mar 19, 2023, 05:18:48 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Mar 19, 2023, 10:35:59 AMI'll be getting this soon but one thing that the "Dead Orbit" trade had over the oversized hardback release was a more Aliens inspired pitch that was 3-4 pages long but still really good. So I've been wondering if that will be included in the omnibus or not.

That's in the oversized deluxe hardcover cover. I own that version and look at those original concept pitches pretty often because of how hyper detailed they are (like all of Stokoe's work).
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Engineer on Mar 25, 2023, 10:40:14 PM
I just got my copy.
It's missing this:

https://twitter.com/avpgalaxy/status/1303710263754067973?s=46&t=7Hw57af4Vx-8BX46Zoeo0g

Also it does have the full pinup gallery at the end of the ACM prequel comic that the digital copy is missing.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 26, 2023, 06:56:51 AM
Quote from: Engineer on Mar 25, 2023, 10:40:14 PMI just got my copy.
It's missing this:

https://twitter.com/avpgalaxy/status/1303710263754067973?s=46&t=7Hw57af4Vx-8BX46Zoeo0g

Tbf it does say right there that was unpublished.

So far as I'm aware the only previously unreleased stuff in these collections is the conclusion to Crusade.
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Engineer on Mar 26, 2023, 03:18:54 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 26, 2023, 06:56:51 AM
Quote from: Engineer on Mar 25, 2023, 10:40:14 PMI just got my copy.
It's missing this:

https://twitter.com/avpgalaxy/status/1303710263754067973?s=46&t=7Hw57af4Vx-8BX46Zoeo0g

Tbf it does say right there that was unpublished.

So far as I'm aware the only previously unreleased stuff in these collections is the conclusion to Crusade.

They included a cover from "Music of the Spears" that was never used... well, a more explicit version of a cover anyway.

Edit:
I went back and double checked. Yea, volume 2 has the original/unrevised versions of a cover from "Music of the Spears" and "Labyrinth," as well as two unused cover arts from a "Music of the Spears" TPB that was never published.

Edit 2:
Volume 1 also included an unused cover art for "Aliens Hive."

Volume 3 included unused cover art for "Aliens: Apocalypse – the destroying angels" issue #3. It also included the original version of a panel from "Aliens: Mondo Pest" (or maybe it was Mondo Heat??) that mistakenly used a facehugger instead of a chest burster.


I didn't see any unused cover arts, or previous versions of panels/covers in the Predator Omnibus or the Aliens Volume 4 book...

My best guess as to why they didn't include the unused isolation cover is that maybe it wasn't something Dark Horse had any sort of ownership over, so Marvel didn't either when they took over the license meaning they weren't permitted to print the artwork.

Now that I'm thinking about it more though, I'm kinda bummed out they didn't include the previously revealed but ultimately unused cover arts from the cancelled "Rising Threat" series... some of those were fantastic!
Title: Re: Aliens the Original Years Vol 4 Omnibus announcement
Post by: Jonesy Not Expendable on May 16, 2023, 08:50:13 PM
I picked up my copy today. Hoping we get some word on more Predator/Aliens vs Predator volumes soon.

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