Nostromo Revisited

Started by Frosty Venom, Feb 03, 2019, 05:38:05 AM

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The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#180
Yeah, there are other videos for sure. Other posters here have said the wiki is not the only place he takes info from either.

As much as I don't fancy going though most of his videos, I am more than willing to go through them and time stamp his plagiarism.

SM

SM

#181
Keep reading the thread.  I talk about how he lifted stuff from WYR verbatim without attribution.  He lifts stuff word-for-word from all over the place.  It gives the impression that he's sat down researched and written his material - when it's really just stolen wholesale.

And on top of that he made a video about 'Was Newt's Mom found in the hive'.  The answer is obviously "No", but he is blatantly dishonest by cropping comic frames that would show us this and wrings 7 minutes of garbage for 64,000 views.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#182
Didn't you say that the timeline website got plagiarised by him as well, or was that another youtuber?

Tomorrow I will go though as much of his videos as I can, don't like adding to his views but I think the more evidence that gets posted, the better.

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#183
I look forward to a comprehensive list.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#184
Yeah its probably going to be long, but its worth it to get it all out there.

RidgeTop

RidgeTop

#185
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 03, 2021, 11:34:04 PM
Yeah its probably going to be long, but its worth it to get it all out there.

I'd appreciate it, would be good to see more examples.

QuoteWYR verbatim without attribution

Should've been attributed but an argument could be made for fair use with official material, I'm specifically looking at examples of ripping off fan research. Which, even if he was arguing still counts as fair use by proxy, it's not cool.

As far as that goes though, what I'm seeing here so far comes down to one video from 2017, and three paragraphs in question.

That is not what I would consider an extensive track record.

I've heard very little on here about Mr. H's videos compared to Alien Theory, some of which are taken direct from Xenopedia, and also using fan art without attribution:

Examples

Ripley Video:



https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Ellen_Ripley?fbclid=IwAR0A2Kooj1mNuMRENEQZKJLfIujBXdn_LBXjdRBOgRFMPr7G8qD7hJ998go

Predalien Video:



https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Predalien_(caste)?fbclid=IwAR0UknCaWJ_8rRI5Fww-mAluysc4I75QHR-2RO5iBK8X2WAjKI3sjnl_en8

Ravager Video:



https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Ravager

Seems like a fraction of the energy directed towards Mr. H about this issue. Not saying AT shouldn't be criticized, but I don't know if I'd place him with the likes of AcidGlow on this one. Open to having my mind changed on that with presented evidence. Even with these instances that should be addressed I don't want to write off Mr. H either, he has made some good videos, and most of the time recently when he does his reporting and commentary he does credit. I see AT was on here a while back and denied these claims, and part of me wants to give him the benefit of the doubt that there could've been some unintended research crossover.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#186
Actually, Mr.H reviews is in my crosshairs, he plagiarised from the terminator wiki as well. Hybridnetwork has also plagiarised from us. There a lot of them. Just taking it one at the time and since AT had the nerve to deny any wrong doing in the face of evidence, I think starting with him is a good start.
I don't know for sure if fair use applies to "explained" videos, it usually for reviews from what I last read about it. Regardless, it is morally wrong and a complete dick move.

I do plan on exposing them, just got to get myself a decent mic now, my recent attempt to make a video resulted in a video with a good picture,but practically zero sound.  :P



So far this is what I got, sorry for the lack of timstamps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo04obpHonA&list=PL3Js5pJZN4Mm7pkCo-fRQC-Af8how55cy&index=5
He frequently uses cold forge here as a reference and actually states where it i from but then there is a little part from our wiki "the Facehugger deposits a tumor in the host's chest cavity, consisting of specifically tailored cancers that bring about a restructuring of the host's cells" And it gets no mention on where that info came from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR2ILljzeeQ&list=PL3Js5pJZN4MkwQZxLl1YsC8xxWmrg5GWX&index=5
I think this uses WYR with no attrbution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar7ZXlwFKnY&list=PL3Js5pJZN4MnnCuo9qTNt8-0F9rZQ_rVu&index=17
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_sack

Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 04, 2021, 12:01:48 AM
I see AT was on here a while back and denied these claims, and part of me wants to give him the benefit of the doubt that there could've been some unintended research crossover.

There is no way its unintended research crossover, since no one to my knowledge on Xenopedia adds info copied from other sources into the pages (and thus no third party source for AT to use), the only explanation is (and with evidence to prove it) is that he is simply taking it from our wiki. This may sound petty of me but I don't think a few good videos makes up for plagiarism.




And some more, with time stamps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGECOz9bmE&list=PL3Js5pJZN4MnnCuo9qTNt8-0F9rZQ_rVu&index=36
0:51
A far gaps here and there but he is reading from this section.
" By 2066, Sieg and Son was operating huge manufacturing plants in London, Buenos Aires, Nagasaki and on Luna.[4] In 2071, the Sieg family sold their shares back into the company, which continued to expand at an exponential rate.  Sieg and Son became market leaders in the production of cars, chemicals, educational equipment and building materials"
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Seegson
1.43
The station's opening also coincided with tumult in the space race. Years of mismanagement, and the eventual re-routing of the Sol-Thedus flight path, left Sevastopol in danger of being decommissioned. Sevastopol was eventually purchased by Seegson in 2124, the company aiming to re-energize the station and transform it into a cosmopolitan hub.
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Sevastopol_Station


I am going to have a little break a second, don't want to be spending the day watching his videos  :P

SM

SM

#187
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 03, 2021, 11:25:22 PM
Didn't you say that the timeline website got plagiarised by him as well, or was that another youtuber?

Tomorrow I will go though as much of his videos as I can, don't like adding to his views but I think the more evidence that gets posted, the better.

It was more plagiarising WYR.  Perry used my website as a source and lifted some stuff about Fiorina - with my blessing.

Alien Thievery just reads it word for word as if he's written it himself.

There's always going to be crossover with Youtube content - but reading stuff verbatim?  The guy is scum.

QuoteI am going to have a little break a second, don't want to be spending the day watching his videos

Therein lies the problem - 'I don't see where he's plagiarising stuff' (despite years of claims) and one has trawl through his shit  to actually prove it.

SiL

SiL

#188
For the record, Fair Use does not entitle someone to copy another work verbatim and pass it off as their own, no.

If you use footage from a movie or a game, it is clear you are providing commentary on the movie or game. If you're reviewing a book and read a passage, it is clear you are providing commentary on the book and that passage.

If you're making a video about embryo implantation and just read out of a book without credit as though you wrote it, that's regular old plagiarism.

426Buddy

426Buddy

#189
Yeah... I don't like Mr. H videos myself but sucks that he's not any better than AT.

RidgeTop

RidgeTop

#190
Well this'll teach me to have the benefit of the doubt about somebody...

Note what I say my next video is I'm working on here: https://youtu.be/ha5xTgYWvIQ?t=5923

And the most recent video here:


I mean... can't say for sure but what are the odds?


SM

SM

#191
Comparisons between AvP and Prometheus have been well documented for some time.

However - the timing?

Scum.

Maybe it's time for a video comparing AT with all the content he's stolen from other people.

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#192
Now he's like the Carlos Mencia of the AvP community.

RidgeTop

RidgeTop

#193
Quote from: SM on Apr 01, 2021, 09:38:13 PM
Comparisons between AvP and Prometheus have been well documented for some time.

However - the timing?

Scum.

Maybe it's time for a video comparing AT with all the content he's stolen from other people.

Yeah I know AVP Central did a written piece on it and there's another YouTube video on it about three years back. It was mainly the timing that had me scratching my head.

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#194
I wouldn't be surprised if he watches all of the AvPG podcasts for "inspiration."  As soon as you gave him an idea for something he hadn't already done, he sprang into action.

Now your choice is to either proceed with making your own video as planned and face potential accusations that you're ripping him off, or you can just cancel it.  My advice is to proceed, but preface it with the relevant clip from that podcast along with the date it was uploaded.  Whether or not you mention AT is up to you.

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