First i want to make clear some details.
If you wanna stay fresh don't read the following post.
These are my theories but most of them are based on facts (either images from trailers, interviews and accurate leaks)
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO NOT BE SPOILED PLEASE DONT READ THIS!!!
To make it easier to track, i will update this first post with each new theory or discovery.
Spoiler
My checklist so far of theories proving to be right on the money :
Derelict class Engineer ship under the temple.
Giant Humanoid Engineers.
Ampules room is a DNA library.
Human crew Mutants.
Shaw "pregnancy" and surviving it.
Prometheus crashing into the Derelict class ship taking off to Earth.
ABOUT PETER WEYLAND BEING ON THE PROMETHEUS TRIP & THE HUMAN ENGINEER.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:04 PM
Ok guys,
first i guess its now safe to say that Guy Pierce is in the movie for more than a minute.
He's along for the ride as these images show :
David wakes up his "father" from his private cryo room :
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In the background, Peter Weyland 83 years wearing an advanced SE suit with cadium exo-skeleton :
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"A king has his reign. Then he dies. It's inevitable."
So we have a dying egomaniac tycoon who proclamed himself a god on board of a mission to meet actual "gods" who mastered life itself. What if the king refuses the inevitable, finds a way to become immortal by stealing God's knowledge?
Or
It was made clear that an ENGINEER have been present on Earth having contact with different civilization troughout history. He might have left some sort of lineage, some descendants, who dicreetly use their incredible knowledge to help humanity evolve technologically. Maybe one of these descendant has no taste for discretion, he wants more, he wants to meet his ancestors...
Toward the climax of the movie SHAW fights a human sized character wearing an ENGINEER undersuit. I don't think it's HOLLOWAY who seems to be infected (maybe on purpose by someone on the crew) by the same parasite as FIFIELD hence he will become a crazy mutant creature too (leading to SHAW giving birth to the new xeno monster). I doubt it's an actual ENGINEER, they are titans. They probably could modify themselves to change height but this would be incredibly cheesy on screen and i doubt Scott will go that way. Could be DAVID also but the character with a story arc fitting perfectly this role in the climax is Sir PETER WELAND.
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The human ENGINEER would also explain this smaller pilot too
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One thing is sure we have actual ENGINEERS.
They will probably want to reap what they sowed on Earth.
To reborn themselves? To continue their experiments?
To destroy a race that has almost become their equal?
Also I don't think the movie end up after the crash.
Something, someone survives.
Dying or infected (black goo seen on FIFIELD & SHAW)?
Looks like in those final 8 minutes will witness a birth...
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ABOUT THE HUMAN ENGINEER BEING WEYLAND OR DAVID :
QuoteTo me there will be 4/5 types of creatures.
-The giant real ENGINEERS aka space jokeys.
-The microscopic lifeform that infects FIFIELD, HOLLOWAY (maybe others a few others), a parasite that grows inside its host and start to take over morphing its host into monsters.
SHAW will be infected by one of those, but she will extract the parasite herself with the medpod.
-The human/synth sized ENGINEER (i'll devellop later).
-Massive xeno like creatures born out of real giant ENGINEERS infected in the climax (i'll devellop later).
We will have actual ENGINEERS/SPACE JOCKEYS in the movie not only dead ones.
In the first pic, you can see that all the 4 giant sarcophagus are closed.
In the second pic, FORD (who dies early in the movie) looks up to one giant being.
In the third pic, you can see that the sarcophagus on the left is open.
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We will also have a human sized character wearing an ENGINEER undersuit fighting with SHAW in the movie's climax.
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So either our ENGINEER can change his size at will or a human/synth character uses the Engineer's tech. Size changing ENGINEERS could work on paper but i think it would look silly on screen. So i would rather go with the Human/Synth theory.
The first possible suspect could be PETER WEYLAND himself.
Wich is along for the ride with the Prometheus crew.
In the background, Peter Weyland 83 years wearing an advanced SE suit with cadium exo-skeleton :
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"A king has his reign. Then he dies. It's inevitable."
So we have a dying egomaniac tycoon who proclamed himself a god on board of a mission to meet actual "gods" who mastered life itself. What if the king refuses the inevitable, finds a way to become immortal by stealing God's knowledge?
His story arc would fit perfectly being our "Prometheus".
My second suspect is DAVID.
He does steal the ampule and seems quite happy with it.
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He also have a fight with VICKERS, maybe DAVID is not upfront with his real motives...
But its a very small detail that point me toward DAVID being a possible "Prometheus".
In the first pic you can see DAVID kneeling on the pilot console to activate it.
In the second pic, you can see the human sized character wearing an ENGINEER undersuit, kneeling at the exact same spot to activate the chair. I found weird that 2 different characters would act the same way.
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Also, I just realized that the being wearing the ENGINEERS undersuit is really human sized.
Check the console design on both pics, DAVID and the Being are at the same spot and have the same size.
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The small engineer is actually small and is not a mistake.
A human or synth does really steal the ENGINEER's tech!!!
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WE ARE THE ONES WHO f**k THINGS UP!!!
ABOUT THE ENGINEER RACE.
THE ENGINEER DESIGN AND THEIR SIZE.
QuoteRemember this leak way before any images :
QuoteA guy I know who's seen stills of the film has described to me what the Engineers actually look like. Huge, muscular, blue. Think Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen, but really tall. Just in case you guys were interested. I don't know how well that will turn out, but it's good news that they don't have elephant trunks.
An image to estimate the ENGINEERS size.
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The size fits DALLAS near the Space Jockey from ALIEN.
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/109/1096987/space-jockey-alien-4_1276542699.jpg
But i'm sure that when needed to Scott will "cheat" like when he used his kids in ALIEN.
Even if the actors playing Engineers in props suit are not really as tall as the Space Jockey, on screen they will appear to be much larger. If with camera trick they manage to make Tom Cruise look as tall as Michael Jordan in his films imagine what they can do with actual giant actors (i've heard they are around 7ft tall).
Size is never an issue in movies.
Many where misled by the tiny Engineer in the chair, when its clear that he is not an actual ENGINEER. Seriously as if Scott was gonna screw that bad about the scales... The human sized character wearing an ENGINEER suit, seen fighting SHAW and activating the pilot chair is a crew member of the Prometheus.
ENGINEER RACE EXTINCTION & MASSIVE XENOS ?
QuoteThe following quote is from a leak posted way before any picture of the pilot chair has been seen online:
QuotePrometheus, is going to be a very large and intense story, with a scope that is epic, the final act is where the movie switches gears and shifts into Aliens territory. Pinewood houses an exact replica of the H R Giger Space Jockey command post. You may notice in the original Alien that the Space Jockey had a puncture on its considerably large chest, where the xenomorph broke out through the flesh of the creature and broke through the biomechanical armor it wears. You may also notice how big the Space Jockey is in relation to its human counter parts in the film. So imagine how big the baby must be, which is yet to grow. Then imagine quite a few of these. If you can do that, you got a pretty good grasp on the final act. And do not be expecting the traditional look either, these are very different creatures that will keep the general architecture of the xenomorph, but will have a considerably different look, and do very perverse things.
Quote from: SiUttley on Mar 19, 2012, 02:50:12 PM
Interesting... With regards the sarcophagi, and apologies if this has been brought up already, aren't at least three of them in that image above, punctured around the chest area? I realise this may be face-palmingly obvious and has probably been discussed to death!
WOW!!!
WELL SPOTTED MATE!!!
I don't think it has been discussed, we didnt have that shot before.
We have heard about 3 actors playing ENGINEERS so where do they fit???
So massive creatures have been unleashed before the humans arrived...
Maybe they left "eggs" somewhere...
ARGHHHHHHH The plot thickens...
Also the chestbustered sarcophagus could explain why their race is extinct.
Remember the dead ENGINEER discovered when they enter the giant head room, also in the new trailer we have seen what looks like a pile of biomechanoid bodies in the tunnels leading to the ENGINEER's ship.
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Maybe they were running into hidings from one of their old weapon unleashed by mistake (or not) upon themselves. Some dignitaries made it into the ship (wich is some sort of dna noah's ark) but were already infected. Somebody noticed the ring planet, wich could mean that the Prometheus crew is on a planet in the area of LV426. Maybe the ALIEN space jockey, was also infected at the same moment but managed to flee the planet in the Derelict and
crashed on LV426.
THE TEMPLE(S) THE SHIP(S) ?
QuoteWhe know now that the temple(s) leads to the ENGINEER ship(s).
Here is a leak from way before we saw any image of the giant head sculpture :
QuoteThe head is a representation of the Engineer, some sort of leader for his civilization, a great scientist who has a cult following by his people. Probably because he masters the biomechnical technology that helps his race prevails over the universe.
At first we tought it was only one temple, one ship.
But now it's clear that the Prometheus lands on the ENGINEER homeworld or some huge launch base of some sort!!!
Hence NOT LV426!
Multiples Engineers temples = Mutiple Engineers ships!
Oh my god!!!
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THE THREAT TO EARTH?
QuoteIf the humans are compatible to Engineers, as the human sized Engineer points to, our Engineer leader might want to use the human population to resurect his race...
Quote from: NGR01 on Apr 27, 2012, 09:54:35 PM
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French magazine SFX has 3 great interviews with Arthur Max, Conor O'Sullivan prosthetics supervisor and Visual effect supervisor Richard Stammers. Each interview are 3 full pages, no spoilers per se but very interresting material.
I have not bought but i remember the most important stuff.
Arthur Max :
The Prometheus was designed by Steve Burg and Ben Procter.
The Prometheus is composed of independant parts that can separate from the main body if needed (Vickers area is a skif/ship by itself) doubt it will cometo play in the movie tho...
The approach to the Engineers tech was to take the Giger look but make it more mechnical than bio by adding an obvious metal feel. Engineers are partly inspired by the persian civilisation.
Richard Stammers Visual effect supervisor :
Weta is doing all the xeno like creatures.
There were sculptures on set so the actors can react but those monsters will be full cgi.
Weta also did the rise of the pilot chair sequence.
They used model kits from the market to help them remake the pilot chair.
The Juggernaut is full CGI, it has been re-designed by Steve Messing.
The original derelict was not detailed enough they had to recreate them, GUTALIN was hired to for that, his Gigerian but yet more mechanical style was perfect for the look they wanted.
At first it was tought it would be necessarry to use models for the colision and crash but after seeing the Yatch scene from xmen first class (???) he decided to go full cgi.
When Scott visits MPC, he doesnt stay in the reunion room but go check the cgi artists themselves, giving input or modification on the spot.
Conor O'Sullivan prosthetics supervisor :
The Engineer and his suit have been designed by Nevil Page.
He has a very symitrical face wich enchance his alieness even if he is humanoid.
At first Scott was not sure that prosthetics could achieve teh level of details he wanted.
Conor told him they use now a great technique that has remarkable results (there is a long explanation of what it is in the interview). At first Connor made a test, he sculpted the Engineer's head, then animated the eyes by cgi.
It was part of the showreel Scott showed Fox to get the greenlight.
The Enginneer is not a full suit but is made of many many many prosthetic parts from head to toes.
Ian Whyte played the Engineer for all the scene with the humans (wich take place in the second part of the movie), when Engineer(s) are alone it's normally sized actors.
For the closeups Ian Whyte face did not worked, they could not get the look they wanted so they used the "normal" actors wich have been also chosen because of their face.
One scene got Connor a bit nervous because the Engineer is almost fully naked.
He was not sure the thin material would resist the shoot, he explain how they did it and says how much it looks good on screen. Ian Whyte had a 32 days shoot, they had to replace the suit every 3 days.
He end up saying that he's really happy how the character feel alive on screen.
That he is not a special effect but a living and breathing and frightening creature.
Oh he also talks about an aging makeup of one of the characters (guess who ^^) wich has to be done faster than usual because the actor was cast a few weeks near the shooting.
Probably forgot some stuff but i think all the juicy details are there ;)
Interesting... With regards the sarcophagi, and apologies if this has been brought up already, aren't at least three of them in that image above, punctured around the chest area? I realise this may be face-palmingly obvious and has probably been discussed to death!
Quote from: SiUttley on Mar 19, 2012, 02:50:12 PM
Interesting... With regards the sarcophagi, and apologies if this has been brought up already, aren't at least three of them in that image above, punctured around the chest area? I realise this may be face-palmingly obvious and has probably been discussed to death!
WOW!!!
WELL SPOTTED MATE!!!
I don't think it has been discussed, we didnt have that shot before.
We have heard about 3 actors playing ENGINEERS so where do they fit???
So massive creatures have been unleashed before the humans arrived...
Maybe they left "eggs" somewhere...
ARGHHHHHHH The plot thickens...
EDIT, I just realized that the being wearing the ENGINEERS undersuit is really human sized.
Check the console design on both pics, DAVID and the Being are at the same spot and have the same size.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg825.imageshack.us%2Fimg825%2F6152%2Fprometheustlrgh1080pmov.jpg&hash=532149d6aacc52531f1d3c1cda55d52202ead5f2)
The small engineer is actually small and is not a mistake.
A human or synth does really steal the ENGINEER's tech!!!
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WE ARE THE ONES WHO f**k THINGS UP!!!
For ALIEN Space Jockey fans everywhere - this is more like it!
If the bald 'giant' guy that has been labelled 'The Engineer' for so long is not really that giant after all (which the above hi-res images suggest), then that means that the new Jockey in the chair is indeed smaller than the 'original'.
Plus this new info garnered from the hi-res trailer seems to show that 3 of the 4 cryochambers have been punctured or sabotaged? Hopefully the one remaining 'true' Space Jockey shows up later to save the day, and provide the clue to the Alien birth from his giant chest.
PS - be crap if the giant jockey turns out to be just another bald engineer!
I hope all this speculation doesn't ruin it for y'all ;)
In the beginning:
Maybe that guy is Peter regenerating himself.
The 3 damaged sarcophagi seem to have been punctured from within if you look at the photo where the Bald Jockey/ Engineer is striding in from the right.
Good catch on the sarcophagi.
It definately looks like something went down at Space Jockey central before Prometheus even shows up.
Which might suggest that the invitation that Shaw discusses is not necessarily a trap set by whoever uses those sarcophagi.
180924609
I do think that the real ENGINEER is indeed like the small human/Synth Engineer.
The massive head is still THE ENGINEER's.
FORD meet him early in the movie and some sort of mayhem ensue leading to her death.
I think THE ENGINEER is killed by the humans, they use the SYNAPSE REESTABLISHER on him to get some background info even a flashback, and someone get into his biomechnical undersuit.
Also the chestbustered sarcophagus could explain why their race is extinct.
Remember the dead ENGINEER discovered when they enter the giant head room, also in the new trailer we have seen some sort of mass of bodies in the tunnels leading to the ENGINEER's ship.
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Maybe they were running into hidings from one of their old weapon unleashed by mistake (or not) upon themselves. Some dignitaries made it into the ship (wich is some sort of dna noah's ark) but were already infected. Somebody noticed the ring planet, wich could mean that the Prometheus crew is on a planet in the area of LV426. Maybe the ALIEN space jockey, was also infected at the same moment but managed to flee the planet in the Derelict and
crashed on LV426.
ThisBethesdaSea?
I think we may have figured important plot points but some details and cool stuff have yet to be uncovered.
I hope ;)
I can't see this damage on the pods that people are talking about, i see like a circle indentation on the top but i'm pretty sure thats just part of the pods as its too circular and is in the same place on all the pods.
I like your theories NGR01 but for the "Human Size Jockey" fighting Shaw. I think there is a third suspect who can even be our prime suspect. Holloway. We can clearly assume that he's infected and changing during the movie. I don't say that David or Weyland don't change like this at one moment but for that scene I think It's more symbolic and ironic regarding to Shaw, their relation and the intensity of the film. Just an idea. I think Weyland will have a very horrible end and maybe David too.
Zoom in on the 1st and 3rd photos in the first post on this page. Certainly the third pic seems to suggest a ragged outwards puncture. I could be wrong though. Thanks to this gif from Ra3D it's even clearer.
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Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:17:46 PM
I like your theories NGR01 but for the "Human Size Jockey" fighting Shaw. I think there is a third suspect who can even be our prime suspect. Holloway. We can clearly assume that he's infected and changing during the movie. I don't say that David or Weyland don't change like this at one moment but for that scene I think It's more symbolic and ironic regarding to Shaw, their relation and the intensity of the film. Just an idea. I think Weyland will have a very horrible end and maybe David too.
Thanks.
Tought about HOLLOWAY too.
3 details makes me think he's not the Human Engineer.
First his infection leads to SHAW giving birth to a parasite not turning her into en human Engineer.
Second when you see him suffering, he seems to mutate the same way as FIFIELD.
Last, Logan is not an household name, Scott said at comicon last year he had fun with his principle cast naming Fassbender, Pierce, Theron and Rapace.
The girls are not changing, that leaves us with our two male cast leads.
Have you already seen this. It's from Prometheusnews.net. It's a good size comparison montage.
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Yes i've seen it.
But i think its wrong.
Perspetive is not at all alignated, not the same angle.
Wrong.
Look at the picture i posted, SHAW's attacker size, DAVID size at the console, Human/Synth Engineer size at the console.
It fits ;)
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TWO SHIPS ?
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:34:44 PM
Have you already seen this. It's from Prometheusnews.net. It's a good size comparison montage.
http://www.prometheusnews.net/pix/size-comparison.jpg
Going a touch off topic but i find it quite funny that the orig ALIEN pic looks sooo much better looking than the Prometheus one which looks fake and cgi.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:42:11 PM
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TWO SHIPS ?
Its not 2 ships, its the same one that has turned around (there were rumours of that happening), the ground is the same in both shots and both ends of each arm are obviously reversed because its turned around hence why the 3 'vagina' openings are on the bottom now.
I know but the appendages looks different (Right in first pic, Left in second).
Or they have changed the model in Post-prod between the two trailers.
EEV-2501
No don't think 2 ships.
Just temp vs finalized fx.
Check also the jumping guy, in one trailer he has flammes on him in another he don't.
He also have elongated limbs when he throw a guy against the wall in one trailer and not in another.
The fx are still being worked.
Mastes1
The funnier thing is that the PROMETHEUS set was also built like the ALIEN set.
I think it's because of the subtle redesign, the light and film grain.
It way more sleek.
I dont think the crew know that weyland is along for the ride at the beginning, hence i think Vickers is angry with David as he knows weylands there all along and doesnt tell her.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:52:20 PM
EEV-2501
No don't think 2 ships.
Just temp vs finalized fx.
Check also the jumping guy, in one trailer he has flammes on him in another he don't.
He also have elongated limbs when he throw a guy against the wall in one trailer and not in another.
The fx are still being worked.
Mastes1
The funnier thing is that the PROMETHEUS set was also built like the ALIEN set.
I think it's because of the subtle redesign, the light and film grain.
It way more sleek.
Oh i know its a real set, it just has that slightly blurry and plasticy look you get with cgi, it doesn't look as 'real' as the ALIEN pic if you know what i mean.
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 19, 2012, 04:54:58 PM
I dont think the crew know that weyland is along for the ride at the beginning, hence i think Vickers is angry with David as he knows weylands there all along and doesnt tell her.
Yes it did cross my mind that Weyland presence could be hidden.
But i don't think she would assault him like that for this.
WEYLAND is paying for the trip he has a right to be there.
I think it has more to do with the stuff DAVID is doing with the content of the Ampules.
QuoteOh i know its a real set, it just has that slightly blurry and plasticy look you get with cgi, it doesn't look as 'real' as the ALIEN pic if you know what i mean.
iI get what you mean mate ;)
Its funny that Scott took the real set route and it ends up looking like cgi.
But as we seen it with the fx are yet to be finished, i guess color gradding also.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:50:46 PM
I know but the appendages looks different (Right in first pic, Left in second).
Or they have changed the model in Post-prod between the two trailers.
It doesn't if you look closely at it, it still has the bit sticking out of the side but its hard to see, if you look closely you will also see the 2 slits on it which are in both pics but are now reversed.
I think it's a difference between a temp and a final shot.
I also agree that Weyland's presence may very well be kept hidden from the rest of the crew until they have landed.
The shot of all the new footages who's intriguing me the most is this one. Who is this guy ? His face and his skin colour are bizarre. He looks weird. Hands up like if he was shaking a white flag.
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I think that's a part of a dream sequence I'm betting. ;)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 19, 2012, 05:15:22 PM
I think that's a part of a dream sequence I'm betting. ;)
That's what I'm thinking as well.
I'm only seeing one punctured sarcophoguss, the others just seem to have a small roundish design design on them...beside three unscathed sarcophogi coincide with the 3-engineer theory
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 19, 2012, 05:15:22 PM
I think that's a part of a dream sequence I'm betting. ;)
I hope the film doesn't go all weird and '2001' like if you know what i mean. I'm already getting bad vibes from the way David is acting in the trailers, dancing around in the star map and his weird grin when looking at the urn. His "How far would you go to find out the truth' or whatever he says is a bit philosophical for my liking.
Quote from: Mastes1 on Mar 19, 2012, 05:41:40 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 19, 2012, 05:15:22 PM
I think that's a part of a dream sequence I'm betting. ;)
I hope the film doesn't go all weird and '2001' like if you know what i mean. I'm already getting bad vibes from the way David is acting in the trailers, dancing around in the star map and his weird grin when looking at the urn. His "How far would you go to find out the truth' or whatever he says is a bit philosophical for my liking.
your pointing some of the best parts of the trailer as bad? hmm, ok.
i hope this movie goes all weird like 2001.
i would wish scott even to surpass kubrick. in style their equal, but in quality. wait and see.
Quote from: Kol on Mar 19, 2012, 05:48:07 PM
Quote from: Mastes1 on Mar 19, 2012, 05:41:40 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 19, 2012, 05:15:22 PM
I think that's a part of a dream sequence I'm betting. ;)
I hope the film doesn't go all weird and '2001' like if you know what i mean. I'm already getting bad vibes from the way David is acting in the trailers, dancing around in the star map and his weird grin when looking at the urn. His "How far would you go to find out the truth' or whatever he says is a bit philosophical for my liking.
your pointing some of the best parts of the trailer as bad? hmm, ok.
i hope this movie goes all weird like 2001.
i would wish scott even to surpass kubrick. in style their equal, but in quality. wait and see.
I really wouldn't mind if this movie had a slight David Lynch vibe. Slight.
Quote from: Kol on Mar 19, 2012, 05:48:07 PM
Quote from: Mastes1 on Mar 19, 2012, 05:41:40 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 19, 2012, 05:15:22 PM
I think that's a part of a dream sequence I'm betting. ;)
I hope the film doesn't go all weird and '2001' like if you know what i mean. I'm already getting bad vibes from the way David is acting in the trailers, dancing around in the star map and his weird grin when looking at the urn. His "How far would you go to find out the truth' or whatever he says is a bit philosophical for my liking.
your pointing some of the best parts of the trailer as bad? hmm, ok.
i hope this movie goes all weird like 2001.
i would wish scott even to surpass kubrick. in style their equal, but in quality. wait and see.
I can't stand 2001, amazing looking but hard to sit through and the film doesn't make sense, even Arthur C Clark said that which is why he had to write the novel. Anyway i don't mind a bit of 'deepness' to the film but i don't want it to look like Terence Mallick directed the film.
The "burst" sarcophagus idea makes sense, remember that part in the leaked trailer of a burster looking thing bursting out of something that didn't appear in Any realeased trailer so far, so its probably the sarcophagus.
There's a gif of it about somewhere.
Quote from: 8thPassenger on Mar 19, 2012, 05:52:18 PM
I really wouldn't mind if this movie had a slight David Lynch vibe. Slight.
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Nah, too much lol ;)
Quote from: Eva on Mar 19, 2012, 06:45:48 PM
Quote from: 8thPassenger on Mar 19, 2012, 05:52:18 PM
I really wouldn't mind if this movie had a slight David Lynch vibe. Slight.
http://oi44.tinypic.com/4zyr1y.jpg
Nah, too much lol ;)
"Don't you f**kin' look at me!"
Fear. Elizabeth must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. She will face her fear. She will permit it to pass over her and through her.
Lol :laugh:
PS: Glad I resisted the idea of adding the elephant man to the jockey chair. Valaquen would have had me for breakfast:
"Oh Eva, you got that all wrong, sigh... John Merrick had a skin condition, you see, and the inside of the jockey suit was coated with a substance HR Giger invented in the summer of 1976 that would obviously not do with his sensitive condition tsk tsk.. Think girl, think...!" ;)
So DAVID or WEYLAND?
What about the sarcophagus being chestbustered?
The Extinction of the Engineer race?
The Derelict from ALIEN?
The answers are pretty much "We don't know and have no way to know." and "No. Hell no. Not even, sir."
Ok you gave your opinion.
Guess we won't be seeing you in the forum anymore then ;)
I hope some would like to discuss more and gave their opinions beyond "we don't know".
If the Sarcophogi are already ruptured that would suggest that some form of chest-burster has already wiped out at least some of the Derelict's original crew. That would jive with the Alien glimpsed in the mural. Both are strong hints of a version of the creature that exists already and I guess would already have some importance. To someone. I guess the bio-mechanised killers mentioned in the synopsis. But are these the Jockeys, engineers or something else?
Or, is the big blue guy one of our crew infected with that nano-bio-tech goop that David is looking at.
Is the mural part of the Derelict, or the Temple?
I think that those already released xenos are the cause of the extinction.
Like i said the pile of bodies in the tunnel makes me feel like a catclysmic event led to the situation.
Again shades of the abandonned concepts of the original ALIEN.
In ALIEN it was the xeno race that became extinct.
Scoot used the same idea applied to the ENGINEERS.
The xeno like murals are really in good shapes.
That would suggest that they are inside the ship.
All the tunnels leading to the ship seem really in bad shape.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 19, 2012, 09:20:40 PM
Ok you gave your opinion.
Guess we won't be seeing you in the forum anymore then ;)
I hope some would like to discuss more and gave their opinions beyond "we don't know".
I think it's silly to keep repeating nearly the same questions over and over again when we have no real way to answer them. So theories are nice, sure, but at some point ya gotta pull back and realize ...We. Don't. Know. Especially when it comes to the really outlandish ideas which have no real supporting evidence. Like Weyland mutating into a space jockey and being condemned to the chair or something. It's an out there, bizarre idea that might be true. Maybe? But we haven't really seen
evidence of it. You see? :)
And i'll continue to add my 2 cents as I feel, thank you very much. Just because I happen to feel that some of the questions are, at this time, all but impossible to answer because we have very few actual solid facts to go by, doesn't mean i'm going to leave so you can freely spew the same paragraphs of questions over and over without anyone saying "Nah, I don't think those questions can even remotely be
answered yet." ;)
Well you contradict yourself in your two paragraphs.
"We know nothing so no point discussing but i will discuss anyway to say that you know nothing".
Whatever floats your boat i'm cool ;)
For all what Ridley said on WonderCon interwiev, I think
NGR01 has a point about different kinds of aliens in the film, nice and grounded analysis!
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 05:09:40 PM
Who is this guy ? His face and his skin colour are bizarre. He looks weird. Hands up like if he was shaking a white flag.
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Isn't it a feminine figure? Kate Dickie, probably?
Quote from: SiUttley on Mar 19, 2012, 09:20:48 PM
Is the mural part of the Derelict, or the Temple?
You can see a top of Gigiant Head in these sequence, so I reckon it's in the temple's wall/ceilling.
Great, great theories and ideas. I think aloot of this mght be true.
So, if the blue guy is weyland/david then the jockeys in the sarcofags are the creatures which we saw in alien on the chair? Or do they look like the blue guy ingeneer. It seems that when the crew gets infected they run away from something, the only question is, is it the xeno - jockey, or the jockey(and even then is it the blue like engineer or one of the creatures like the dead carcases in the two photos?). IDK, the space jockey race doesnt seem that malevolent to me. It might be a xenojockey left in the ship they are running from. Or a "regural" jockey, I just dont know how frightening a humanoid would be?
Anyways, this topic has certainly made me even more enthusiastic about this movie!
Not sold on all the topical stuff, but I sure am seeing the below:
Open shot of the orrery with David - 4 pods/sarcophagi, 3 of which look to have a penetration, or odd mark in what we seem to assume is the chest area.
The shot with the blue bio-mech walking to the 'cannon penis' [derp], shows the one pod that didn't have a penetration has a middle piece missing from it as if it were opened, and the remaining ones in the shot are closed as they were before, a clear penetration of some sort can be seen on the closest one (infront of the bio-mech).
So good pick up to everyone who noticed it. I'm sure it will play some importance for sure. Perhaps the bio-mech is awoken from the remaining one and is pissed his friends are dead and emo-rage ensues? :P
Great theories NGR01, seems like you could have a lot of it figured out. I think I'm addicted to reading all these theories. From a mythological perspective the synthesis of god and man, the smaller JOCKEY-HUMAN(or android) hybrid you talk about, could produce a character who represents the demigods. Hybridization theories are everywhere in the ancient astronaut stuff, some claim that the offspring of these beings and humans were either tall or giants and monsters. Demigods got lucky and got the right mix of genetics from the gods. Other godly offspring (genetic mixes) weren't so lucky. A mortal became greatly enhanced by the genetics of the gods and gained herculean strength or other abilities. The best of both worlds. And they didn't become one of the many monsters of the Greek myths(these were offspring in many cases).
Demigods were half-mortal, but became more like a god because of their parentage. In some forms of the myth Hercules, the demigod who frees Prometheus, is said to be extremely tall, like 15ft when you convert the measurement given. I think someone represents this demigod in the movie, and NGR01 is definitely on the right track with a lot of the theories.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 19, 2012, 09:45:13 PM
Well you contradict yourself in your two paragraphs.
"We know nothing so no point discussing but i will discuss anyway to say that you know nothing".
Whatever floats your boat i'm cool ;)
No, that's not what I said exactly. I'm saying somethings can be repeated, ironically, ad infininum, but there's no way that any discussion on said issues is going to lead us to a certainty of truth. Ergo, it is pointless to keep rehashing the
same questions. I'm not saying all speculation is worthless. Just some, particularly the more outlandish theories with little to no supporting evidence.
Ok cool.
:)
About the Weyland theory NGR 01. Empire have made a good Trailer analysis and they talk about it. You're close.
http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p3 (http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p3)
I'm certainly not trying to pick on ya NGR01, so please don't think that.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 11:57:10 PM
About the Weyland theory NGR 01. Empire have made a good Trailer analysis and they talk about it. You're close.
http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p3 (http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p3)
It's not like empire has some inside information regarding the imagery in the trailer. They're just giving their analysis. Which is quite good, but that doesn't really mean it has anymore credence in terms of speculation than anything we can come up with here.
I do like most of what they have to say on there, though.
Don't worry mate i did not feel picked in any way.
I understand your POV, i'm not as cautious as you ;)
Empire have no clue whatsoever.
NEW ALIEN. NEW RIPLEY.
Scott must be pissed off ^^
Nice they picked up my theory but i don't really like their tone and jokes.
It sounds silly.
Thanks for the link EEV-2501 ;)
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:42:11 PM
Quote from: Mastes1 on Mar 19, 2012, 04:42:39 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AoTBPNtCEAA5DIu.jpg:large
TWO SHIPS ?
Its not 2 ships, its the same one that has turned around (there were rumours of that happening), the ground is the same in both shots and both ends of each arm are obviously reversed because its turned around hence why the 3 'vagina' openings are on the bottom now.
Yeah it's definately one ship, but you can see how people would be fooled. First thing that hits you is the image can't be flipped, too many ground markings in the same place, and the pilots window is below not on top of the ship, or vice-verse depending how you look at it. Obviously at some point the ship simply swivels around on the spot. :)
^Sure Roary It's the same ship but look at the appendages. The one right in the first pic and left in second is clearly. They have changed the model in Post-prod. between the to trailers. No ?
Quote from: RoaryUK on Mar 20, 2012, 06:21:24 AM
Yeah it's definately one ship, but you can see how people would be fooled. First thing that hits you is the image can't be flipped, too many ground markings in the same place, and the pilots window is below not on top of the ship, or vice-verse depending how you look at it. Obviously at some point the ship simply swivels around on the spot. :)
Not necessary, that it swivels, I guess it's a matter of different angles, when you look at the ship, the lower shot is taken from above and the upper picture shows the vessel more from the side:
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Looking at these quotes from Wondercon:
" Michael Fassbender plays David, an android who is left alone for two and a half years while the crew is traveling in space. Fassbender commented that David is left to figure out how to entertain himself for that time he has alone, and begins to develop human characteristics such as imagination. David was built to incorporate himself into the environment, but things start to get interesting when he starts making connections in the world."
"Screenwriter Damon Lindelof commented on the character of David saying that while the android is mass-produced (something like 20,000 other Davids walking around) much like our smart phones that can each have different apps, cases, etc. David fully comes into his own due to the unusual setting."
I'm leaning towards the idea that Prometheus also refers to Weyland and David to parallel the Modern Prometheus: Frankenstein.
David is Weyland's attempt to create life, in much the same way that Frankenstein created his monster. Will David rebel against his creator?
Obviously, the presence of the bio-tech and the various aliens/ engineers will add complexity on many other levels so I doubt the plots will mirror each other too closely, but it could well be that there will be other thematic touchstones in common.
Quote from: SiUttley on Mar 20, 2012, 12:02:48 PM
Looking at these quotes from Wondercon:
" Michael Fassbender plays David, an android who is left alone for two and a half years while the crew is traveling in space. Fassbender commented that David is left to figure out how to entertain himself for that time he has alone, and begins to develop human characteristics such as imagination. David was built to incorporate himself into the environment, but things start to get interesting when he starts making connections in the world."
I like this part.
For the story I was more thinking of a "Fountain Of Youth" plot. Weyland is searching It. Trying to cheat death.
The engineer ship crash sfx update is no biggie I think
1. the ship impacts the ground with the port arm first:
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2. it rolls and the initial port arm impact leaves a NEW huge mark/wound on the ground:
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3. same situation in the old trailer - no large impact mark and it's the starboard arm to the left instead of the port arm:
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I think they just realized a sfx continuity mistake in post and fixed it before the international trailer was released ;)
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 20, 2012, 12:12:07 PM
For the story I was more thinking of a "Fountain Of Youth" plot. Weyland is searching It trying to cheat death.
That could work, and need not be mutually exclusive. Weyland's first aim is to stop himself from dying, then he can give the gift of immortality to the rest of the world.
He must suspect that such tech exists on whatever planet the Prometheus is going to. Is David his protector (and Butler)? Does he plan to test the bio-tech on David, or the crew before himself?
If Weyland's goal is immortality, then the events of this film must at least start to suggest this is doomed to failure as buy the time the Nostromo is dragged into the whole saga, Weyland-Yutani's goal appears to be more pragmatic, possibly as a result of tragic lessons learned here: the tech is best used as a bio-weapon.
Thanks for these neat infos.
DAVID being the bad guy in the end works in the way that he might have reasons to be a threat to humanity.
If he start to have feeling of its own during the trip, maybe at one point he gets humiliated in some way by his father or start to feel that humans are not worthy of the gods knowledge, that he and his kind are the true children that the gods would have wanted.
PETER WEYLAND on the other side is already the gods equal, he created life, changed worlds etc... Save for immortality or eternal youth, what else there is for him to win. What would be the danger he would represent to Earth.
He almost already own it with his company.
The more i think about it, the more i see that image of the human sized Engineer kneeling, the more i think it's DAVID that becomes our big bad wolf. What i don't like with that is that it's again the bad robot cliché.
Again all will be about execution.
There's 2 shots i have yet to see where they fit to close the deal on the story.
The fleeing character that activate some sort of cloaking device, he's a definitly member of the Prometheus crew because you can make out part of the spacesuit.
The "serpent" penetrating a suit, wich seems to be PETER WEYLAND's special exo suit.
UPDATE!!!
1. the ship impacts the ground with the port arm first:
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2. it rolls and the initial port arm impact leaves a NEW huge mark/wound on the ground:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi41.tinypic.com%2Fzsqrds.jpg&hash=1f930865fafba1e0c20e965926186a97e5069682)
Well spotted EVA!
I always tought that the images of the errect ENGINEER's ship were before it was taking off. But we have seen that he exits the hangar horizontaly and i doubt it would then land and errect itself. It would mean that the ship crashes then it repears itself, get in errect position?
WOW,
what if all of this is not the climax at all?
What if it happens after the first exploration of the temple, middle of the movie, then we would have seen nothing of what happens next...
THAT would be cool.
Or its the climax and after that something major still happens...
More ENGINEERS? Massive xenos?
Wow suddenly i'm exited again when i tought i had it all figured out.
About the"cloaking device". I was more thinking It can be some sort of security device. Somekind of Laser barrier. I don't know. The person passing through is disintegrate to a cellular level. Can't clearly say It but you know what I mean.
On the David topic, I had kind of been thinking he is the metaphorical Prometheus.
Weylands statement, "We... are the Gods now." Had me thinking perhaps David steals something from the crew, perhaps something like a specimen and suffers a brutal punishment at the hands of Weyland and something they uncover
At the same time the crew is having their own issues with theft and giant biomech men.
Bit of double/triple meaning? *shrug*
(Please excuse the typing.. doing it on a tablet from bed lol)
RE David as Prometheus - the production/ marketing team do seem to stressing David's importance. There is clearly heavy thematic exploration of creation and the powers of Gods to create life.
Will be very interesting to see out if plays out.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 20, 2012, 12:33:26 PM
what if all of this is not the climax at all?
What if it happens after the first exploration of the temple, middle of the movie, then we would have seen nothing of what happens next...
THAT would be cool.
Well, I think it
is the beginning of the climax from a storyline perspective and somewhat mirrors the Avatar scene where the large gunship crashes and only the main baddie survives it -> final confrontations follows. I could imagine the engineer pilot unstrapping himself from the pilots chair after the crash and going after the remaining humans 'on foot'. Which brings up this situation which I believe is a remaining/detached part of Prometheus on the surface after the collision - notice the smoke fumes in the background from the debris
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... and a final confrontation perhaps within that remaining structure - the shot of Shaw facing an engineer face to face in the ship corridor.
Regarding David, I still believe he's with 'team humans' until the end. He's the one who discovers the map and alerts Shaw that the ships destination is Earth. That he himself would somehow transform and turn on us and suddenly wish to destroy our civilization - I'm just not there at all. That's not his character arc in this film as I see it and Ridley has already done the 'bad robot' subplot - twice if you count Blade Runner.
If anything, I think he will do anything to protect us despite what difficulties/challanges he will endure with the humans during the film. But that's just a theory on my part lol :)
I agree that Ridley has done the bad android thing before, and I think it would be great if he goes a different way with David here. I would like David to be heroic.
Quote from: Eva on Mar 20, 2012, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 20, 2012, 12:33:26 PM
what if all of this is not the climax at all?
What if it happens after the first exploration of the temple, middle of the movie, then we would have seen nothing of what happens next...
THAT would be cool.
Well, I think it is the beginning of the climax from a storyline perspective and somewhat mirrors the Avatar scene where the large gunship crashes and only the main baddie survives it -> final confrontations follows. I could imagine the engineer pilot unstrapping himself from the pilots chair after the crash and going after the remaining humans 'on foot'. Which brings up this situation which I believe is a remaining/detached part of Prometheus on the surface after the collision - notice the smoke fumes in the background from the debris
http://oi40.tinypic.com/kcbe9t.jpg
... and a final confrontation perhaps within that remaining structure - the shot of Shaw facing an engineer face to face in the ship corridor.
I like how you piece things together, not just assembling stuff the geeky fanboy way but story oriented :)
I didnt took notice of the Prometheus module shot with the debris fire around, nice find.
Shaw seems to be alone in a human ship environnement at the moment of the final confrontation with DAVID/WEYLAND.
Makes sense total sens that it happens in that module. She also seems to be fighting another creature in that scene, the tentacle hitting the door, SHAW with an axe.
But one thing is weird.
If the ENGINEER's ship errects after crashing, like it seems to be the case (the traces on the ground).
Why would our bad guy hunts down SHAW (& VICKERS) to the module?
^Following what you are saying about David guys. I'm surely wrong but What if ? Changed as a engineer and infected, he stole the Derelict ship to prevent the "invasion" of Earth by the Jockeys (with the Xenos), the Chest Burster kills him while his piloting the ship, he crashed on LV4-26 and be the dead Jockey.
I really don't think that the connection with ALIEN will be that big.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 20, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
^Following what you are saying about David guys. I'm surely wrong but What if ? Changed as a engineer and infected, he stole the Derelict ship to prevent the "invasion" of Earth by the Jockeys (with the Xenos), the Chest Burster kills him while his piloting the ship, he crashed on LV4-26 and be the dead Jockey.
why is everybody (ignoring what official staff member contradict already; damon lindelof, ridley scott, jon spaiths & charlize theron) assuming it ends with the jockey ship on lv-426?
you've all watched episode I-III way too often.
i can't explain, how angry/mad i get when reading those high hopes of fanservice.
Spoiler
alter, bin ich scheißsauer!
Hi, another longtime lurker deciding to take a dive in.
There's probably nothing to this at all, but I keep thinking about Fassbender saying that his inspiration for playing David was Greg Louganis. It is the mannerisms of Louganis that he talks about, but still, when you think about it, who in the trailers kind of reminds you of an Olympic diver?
Despite that, if the Small Engineer is a mutated crew member, I think it's more likely to be Halloway. Notice how the new trailers emphasise his relationship with Shaw.
Quote from: Kol on Mar 20, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 20, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
^Following what you are saying about David guys. I'm surely wrong but What if ? Changed as a engineer and infected, he stole the Derelict ship to prevent the "invasion" of Earth by the Jockeys (with the Xenos), the Chest Burster kills him while his piloting the ship, he crashed on LV4-26 and be the dead Jockey.
why is everybody (ignoring what official staff member contradict already; damon lindelof, ridley scott, jon spaiths & charlize theron) assuming it ends with the jockey ship on lv-426?
you've all watched episode I-III way too often.
i can't explain, how angry/mad i get when reading those high hopes of fanservice.
Spoiler
alter, bin ich scheißsauer!
You're probobly going to be mad on opening day too then. >:( Hollywood is all about fanservice (especially these days). The entire idea behind Ridley doing an Alien (I know I know not a prequel, a whole unexplored universe blah blah blah) is fanservice to begin with so prepare yourself for that day when you realize you've been had by the marketing department at Fox. :o
Oh and if there's one thing I know for sure its that Ridley Scott belongs to Fox (see Alien vs Predator question at Comicon on Youtube if you don't believe me) and that their will is his will.
Kol, I wasn't saying that was I was expected. I'm just discussing. It's just one more What If ? in a ocean of What if ? ;) But you and LSD-426 are absolutely right about the fan-service question. Me too, I'm afraid that Prometheus will be a fan-service movie. Even with Ridley Scott on the chair. Especially with Fox.
Quote from: LSD-426 on Mar 20, 2012, 03:49:07 PM
Oh and if there's one thing I know for sure its that Ridley Scott belongs to Fox (see Alien vs Predator question at Comicon on Youtube if you don't believe me) and that their will is his will.
What was the answer ? :D
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 20, 2012, 04:05:47 PM
Kol, I wasn't saying that was I was expected. I'm just discussing. It's just one more What If ? in a ocean of What if ? ;) But you and LSD-426 are absolutely right about the fan-service question. Me too, I'm afraid that Prometheus will be a fan-service movie. Even with Ridley Scott on the chair. Especially with Fox.
Quote from: LSD-426 on Mar 20, 2012, 03:49:07 PM
Oh and if there's one thing I know for sure its that Ridley Scott belongs to Fox (see Alien vs Predator question at Comicon on Youtube if you don't believe me) and that their will is his will.
What was the answer ? :D
The Answer - > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQLRMIGA2I# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQLRMIGA2I#)
:D :D :D Great. Thx LSD.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 20, 2012, 02:38:06 PM
Shaw seems to be alone in a human ship environnement at the moment of the final confrontation with DAVID/WEYLAND.
Makes sense total sens that it happens in that module. She also seems to be fighting another creature in that scene, the tentacle hitting the door, SHAW with an axe.
But one thing is weird.
If the ENGINEER's ship errects after crashing, like it seems to be the case (the traces on the ground).
Why would our bad guy hunts down SHAW (& VICKERS) to the module?
Yes, agreed axe, alien tentacle bla bla... except the DAVID/WEYLAND notion ;)
I don't think the engineer ship remains in a vertical position - it just crashes in a fashion so that gravity and momentum will make it rotate a bit like a giant wheel before it falls flat down on its big ass. But I'm no scientist nor a pilot...
The engineer might not be 'hunting' anyone as such, if that is the scenario. He might 'just' wanna investigate the remaining structure still left and make sure that any survivors will feel his wrath.
Regarding David, there's a fast shot somewhere with him running behind 2 crewmembers as if they are in a hurry to get out - that could be David+Shaw+? escaping the engineer ship just before it takes off. But I had this funny (and completely unfounded) idea that he might chose to remain and take on the engineer himself in the control room to buy the others some extra time.
Someone once suggested that they could make out what could be a blue crew suit on the floor in the scene with the wide shot of the jockey chair emerging, although I have to struggle to see it myself. But it would fit into my overall feeling of how Davids character arc might play out. I have some other ideas about him, but I'll keep them to myself for now... :)
Quote from: Eva on Mar 20, 2012, 05:04:47 PM
I don't think the engineer ship remains in a vertical position - it just crashes in a fashion so that gravity and momentum will make it rotate a bit like a giant wheel before it falls flat down on its big ass. But I'm no scientist nor a pilot...
Someone once suggested that they could make out what could be a blue crew suit on the floor in the scene with the wide shot of the jockey chair emerging, although I have to struggle to see it myself. But it would fit into my overall feeling of how Davids character arc might play out. I have some other ideas about him, but I'll keep them to myself for now... :)
About the crash,
When VICKERS and SHAW are running, you can see that the two extremities are the first parts of the ship hitting the ground. Then the ship seems to roll. We also have a shot of the extremity with antenas like protusion hitting the ground.
The shots Where the ship is errect are not insert, the camera has the time to turn around it, SHAW or VICKERS have enough time to stare at it. Definitly think it crashes, rolls and errect itself.
About a blue suit being seen when the small Engineer activate the pilot chair, it was just a color spot when you check the 1080p video nobody is near theopen sarcopahgus. But SHAW definitly makes it into the ship in the climax, the promo shot where she's seen kneeling at the top of the stairs leading to the pilot chair.
The general plot may go like this:
1) Discovery of artifacts on Earth leading to expedition to Zeta Reticuli
2) Discovery of Jockey/Engineer's temple and all hell breaks loose
3) David steals ampule, infects himself with God's Bioform, Jockey goes ballistic, declares war on Earthlings
4) Prometheus rams into Jockey's craft & self destructs
5) Shaw, Vickers survive the crash, and have no choice but to seek refuge in the alien craft
(Earlier exploration of temple/craft shows the crew can breathe without helmet)
6) David, drunk with newfound power, probably lurks around the Jockey craft (with old Weyland?)
7) Last third of the movie: Human vs Aliens To the Death inside the Derelict craft
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 20, 2012, 09:58:54 PM
About the crash,
When VICKERS and SHAW are running, you can see that the two extremities are the first parts of the ship hitting the ground. Then the ship seems to roll. We also have a shot of the extremity with antenas like protusion hitting the ground.
The shots Where the ship is errect are not insert, the camera has the time to turn around it, SHAW or VICKERS have enough time to stare at it. Definitly think it crashes, rolls and errect itself.
About a blue suit being seen when the small Engineer activate the pilot chair, it was just a color spot when you check the 1080p video nobody is near theopen sarcopahgus. But SHAW definitly makes it into the ship in the climax, the promo shot where she's seen kneeling at the top of the stairs leading to the pilot chair.
Just guessing here, but I think the port arm (the one that hit the ground first) comes 180 degrees around and smashes into the ground again just behind the running women. After that I don't know - you are right that one of them is seen staring at it at an angle that doesn't seem to entirely fit with my idea though... :)
OK - so the blue suit is out. Haven't really checked it myself but I trust you're right. I also think the shot with Shaw and the engineer suits in the background, is her staring directly into the control room - the corridor fits with the corridors that lead into that room. What exactly she's looking at though...? hmmm...
PS: I'll let you know about another idea I have about David and you can try and pick it apart ;)
He's seen handling the engineer specimens with his bare hands and without any protection at least twice. The others are wearing medical attire ec. when studying the head. So, my theory is that the various engineer bio techs they stumble upon doesn't affect him at all.
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This one is definately up for debate, certainly not everyone will agree but I think it's cool seeing other peoples interpretation, so here's a more detailed idea of what I think happens with the Jockey ship crash.
Zakzak,
basicaly yes it probably happens like this.
I'm working on my own timeline/synopsis ;)
EVA,
SHAW in my mind is definitly looking at the fake ENGINEER.
About DAVID, being imune to the biomaterial.
That fits whatwas has been established with bishop, when he's ignored by the xenos bacause he's not compatible for reproduction. Again my only clue for him being our "Prometheus" Engineer is the shot where he is seen kneeling the same way "Prometheus" is, i like a lot more the PETER WEYLAND concept.
ROARYUK,
I tend to think that the second image is an unfinished fx mistake but your theory would work too.
Definitly exciting because it means that JANEK sacrifice was useless. The ship looks ok in that shot. He might need to some time to rebuild itself ( like the nuked alien ship from SKYLINE, wich was visually cool). Enouch time for the survivors to have a final showdown with "Prometheus".
BTW i was wrong about the shot where you can see the "serpent" penetrate a suit. I tought it could only be PETER WEYLAND because it seemed to have the exo parts but actually that part is some sort of elbow articulation present on other suits too.
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Quote from: RoaryUK on Mar 21, 2012, 08:47:25 AM
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This one is definately up for debate, certainly not everyone will agree but I think it's cool seeing other peoples interpretation, so here's a more detailed idea of what I think happens with the Jockey ship crash.
Its funny, I posted something about the upright jockey ship ages ago - back when the first leaked trailer appeared! I wonder if somebody at Fox read it?!
Regardless of the somersaults and flips or whatever the SJ ship does
before this scene, it is clear that this aerial shot is
after it has come to rest.
In my original post I said that the ship appeared to be at a slight angle to the vertical, and therefore if it continued to fall at this angle it would land
upside down! I then went on to ramble about how this proves this is not LV426 etc.
But...
In the full trailer, the orientation of the jockey ship has been very purposefully flipped around by 180 degrees, and its is definitely NOT a simple scene flip because the background landscape is almost identical to the 'original' teaser trailer from December.
It is my conclusion therefore that the jockey ship is intended at some point after this shot to fall forwards and land the on the ground the
correct way up.
Ergo, this is LV426! (possibly)
As you pointed the ship stays errect a long time after its crash.
Some character has the time to stare at it without having fear that it will fall on him/her.
I really don't think that its LV426.
Clues are in the Weyland timeline, Lindelof quote and of course Scott saying this is not a (direct) prequel.
I will be really dissapointed if it ends up being LV426, this would be pure spoonfed fanservice.
Yet i'm expecting the DERELICT being adressed in some way.
I think that in the end the survivor(s) will be left with the Engineer's ship and tech.
With all the power and responsabilities that it implies.
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;)
I apreciate your dedication ^^
here is my take on the crash
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Wow. Its really amazing how much we think we can gather from these trailers. We're all probably waaay off. But that's part of the fun, isn't it?
I definitely think Weyland becomes the main antagonist but possibly indirectly. He ascends to Godhood, becomes a new being (maybe his elderly body is placed in one of the sarcophagi by David and is regenerated/reengineered). Having conquered death, Weyland wants to bring this new "fire" back to Earth, however Shaw discovers that this technology is what destroyed this mysterious civilisation in the first place - because it became the ALIEN! I'm guessing that the carving of the Xenomorph is part of a mural which paints a description of the downfall of their society. Of which, the last remainders fled only to crash on some distant planetoid (although we won't discover this until ALIEN ;))
The parasite/serpent organisms unleashed from the ampules are definitely the progenitor of the Alien, but we will see a completely different take on the organism. Especially when Holloway becomes infected, rapes Shaw and she gives birth to a hideous new lifeform.
So Shaw has at least two antagonists 1. The New God Weyland, who must be stopped from returning to Earth. 2. Her mutated alien offspring which is destroying the crew.
And if we're lucky...we'll get a third antagonist(s) in the last eight minutes. Whatever happened to the creatures that burst from the three remaining sarcophagi in the Orrery chamber...
If Holloway does impregnate Shaw, I have a feeling it might start off as love-making, which then takes a turn for the nightmarish as that worm thing bursts from Holloway into Shaw.
Yep i do also think that the ENGINEERS destroyed themselves with the xenos eons ago.
Agreed too on the Derelict being one of the ships that fled at the moment of the cataclysm to crash on a nearby planet.
Dont think the Serpent are directly from the ampules.
The ampules seems to house only microscopic lifeforms or dna samples.
I think the serpents are spawned by the morphed humans creatures.
Humans are infected by the microscopic lifeform, a parasite grows inside them, takes over, morphing them into a monster wich infects others with their spawns the serpents.
Don't think SHAW is actually raped.
She makes love to HOLLOWAY as usual, not knowing he's been infected.
She sees HOLLOWAY morphes (killed maybe) and realize she might have been infected too.
Goes to the medpod to remove the parasite.
The antagonists would be :
Morphed humans.
Grown up SHAW's parasite.
WEYLAND Engineer.
Massive xenos, either born from WEYLAND Engineer or from actual ENGINEERS showing up in the final act, remember actors have been cast to play ENGINEER 1 and ELDER ENGINEER.
Or maybe the ones who chestbusted the sarcophagus, stayed hidden in hibernation waiting for victims... Wich is if i'm correct something that has been hinted about their lifecycle in ALIEN or ALIENS.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 21, 2012, 03:28:10 PM
Don't think SHAW is actually raped.
She makes love to HOLLOWAY as usual, not knowing he's been infected.
I'm of two minds about this. The infection presumably unleashes some...aggressive tendencies in its host. Just look at Fifield. From what we have seen, he is kicking the shit out of those crew members in the loading bay. Holloway's infection may be milder but the primal aggression may start to creep out. I think Elizabeth is deeply religious, doesn't believe in sex before marriage etc. I think the parasite forces Holloway to take what he wants. The way he is sitting on the bed, hanging his head in shame. Many questions...
That was my tought initially but i'm not sure that they want to turn HOLLOWAY in a bad character more into a victim.
I can already see a scene where SHAW has to kill him or watch him get killed.
To me thats clearly the angle to appeal the female audience.
The doomed romance.
When HOLLOWAY wakes up, SHAW seems ok next to him.
When you see her praying in front of the mirror, she has no blood on her, or bruises.
The scene where HOLLOWAY is checking himself in the mirror would happen after he wakes up.
He seems to discover the infection.
The audience will know before that he was infected hence making the love scene creepy, maybe HOLLOWAY will do something weird (maybe being a bit more brutal in his lovemaking than usual) but i'm not expecting crazy rapist attitude.
Wich would be cool nonetheless.
I would prefer him to become a crazy sexfiend ^^ than the poor lover turned into a monster that we feel for.
Quote from: Promethean Fire on Mar 21, 2012, 03:35:26 PM
I think Elizabeth is deeply religious, doesn't believe in sex before marriage etc.
we are now just three months in the year of our lord, 2012, and this moment now our civilization became the most sex-addicts since ever. look at all those girls who are wearing like bitches, becoming a mom with 13 years old and all those stupid males w/o brain but with a lot of semen.
just look at the awful thread called "who's your favorite woman?". it's an example how normal such things are now.
i can't believe that people in the future will become that god-fearing & give up having sex until they're married.
but for the plot: maybe she is that kind of inhibited.
I think she's a believer but not the "no sex before mariage" type.
Adding this element to the character seem unlikely in a studio movie.
They are already dealing with "gods", showing a virgin believer being raped is way too much.
Again i think that would quite unusual and ballsy but i don't think that it interest Scott to go that way.
She will be a godfearing believer who will meet gods and confront a "fake" god.
Dunno if this would be quite the proper thread, but I'll post this here anyway. A recent blog post in which the author speculates on the plot of "Prometheus". Most of the plot points have been discussed already in various posts here, but the article is accompanied by some great stills, including a few showing a snake-like creature slithering into someone's spacesuit! Wowza!
http://whatculture.com/film/delving-deeper-into-prometheus-trailers-heres-our-theories.php (http://whatculture.com/film/delving-deeper-into-prometheus-trailers-heres-our-theories.php)
Again it doesnt take notice that the character seen activating the console is human sized...
I stopped reading after that.
About the ENGINEERS size :
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 22, 2012, 03:10:05 PM
Here another image to estimate the ENGINEERS size.
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The size fits DALLAS near the Space Jockey from ALIEN.
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/109/1096987/space-jockey-alien-4_1276542699.jpg
But i'm sure that when needed to Scott will "cheat" like when he used his kids in ALIEN.
Even if the actors playing Engineers in props suit are not really as tall as the Space Jockey, on screen they will appear to be much larger. If with camera trick they manage to make Tom Cruise look as tall as Michael Jordan in his films imagine what they can do with actual giant actors (i've heard they are around 7ft tall).
Size is never an issue in movies.
Many where misled by the tiny Engineer in the chair, when its clear that he is not an actual ENGINEER. Seriously as if Scott was gonna screw that bad about the scales... The human sized character wearing an ENGINEER suit, seen fighting SHAW and activating the pilot chair is a crew member of the Prometheus.
Just thinking out loud here but.... notice the size of the suits, the corridors leading into the control room, the pilot chair, the controls chair, the engineer cryo tubes, the dead engineer body they stumble over in the ampule room...?
...imo the engineers of this ship must be in the 8-9 ft height range when in suit. If they were (much) bigger, they wouldn't fit into their own ship (!) I'm betting on no 'human/android' engineers...
My $0.02 anyway. I think the tall 13-15ft engineer as seen in the Alien derelict was an creation of that film - not this.
Whoever is right or wrong in May/June, someone here is going to kiss some elses feet. I'll make sure to wash mine just in case. ;)
That's nice of you ^^
Dunno about the Engineers size, they seem to fit the space jockey to me...
Maybe because i wanst expecting huge ENGINEERS from day one.
How can you make a lenghty interraction work in a movie like this.
Always envisionned Humans as hobbits and Engineers as regular human sized on screen.
But i still bet my money on the Weyland/David Engineer toward the end as our main bad guy.
I'm not washing my feets ^^
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 23, 2012, 11:43:22 AM
But i still bet my money on the Weyland/David Engineer toward the end as our main bad guy.
I'm not washing my feets ^^
Don't worry - there won't be any reason that would warrant someone here kissing your feet anyway :laugh:
:o :D :D :D
UPDATE!!!
OH MY GOD!!!!
Multiples Engineers temples = Mutiple Engineers ships!
The Prometheus lands on the ENGINEER homeworld or some huge launch base of some sort!!!
This is gonna be huge!!!
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hmm, ok that's a fairly unsettling discovery.
now i wonder, will the Prometheus go there to check out a special temple, or will they just randomly pick one?
are all temples there for the same purpose, or does each temple have its own assignment to a specific lifeform/planet?
ok i guess it's pointless to start discussing about this, but this is opening up lots of new possibilities.
Scott did not lie when he said that the Prometheus would meet a very uncivilized civilization.
Remember these leaks way before any images :
QuoteA guy I know who's seen stills of the film has described to me what the Engineers actually look like. Huge, muscular, blue. Think Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen, but really tall. Just in case you guys were interested. I don't know how well that will turn out, but it's good news that they don't have elephant trunks.
He also leaked this before :
QuoteThe head is a representation of the Engineer, some sort of leader for his civilization, a great scientist who has a cult following by his people. Probably because he masters the biomechnical technology that helps his race prevails over the universe.
My take is that the first temple is THE Engineer's temple.
The great scientist and leader of this alien race.
The chestbusted sarcopahgis and the dead bodies in the tunnels leading to the Engineers ship would mean that the race is extinct (my take is because of the xenos, massive ones). If the humans are compatible to Engineers, as the human sized Engineer points to, our Engineer leader might want to use the human population to resurect his race...
Maybe even the human sized Engineer is actually not a willing character, but was infected and taken over by THE Engineer persona himself. I say that because i still think that in this scene when Ford meets an actual ENGINEER, he will end up wounded or killed. The merc seems eager to drop the giant humanoid.
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My god. This topic of Shawrape truly ushers in a new era of pointless over-speculatory convoluted bullshit! :o
Milestone achieved, guys!
I beg your pardon?
What's with the attitude mate?
Might be pointless, but art is by definition pointless.
This movie will be pointless too, but a distraction nonetheless.
You think roaming this forum acting all an mighty saying this kind of stuff to people is not pointless too?
If you feel unconfortable having people having fun just look the other way.
Come on...
No pardon required; it's astounding, really, Mark. :)
Hope you will have as much fun when early may you will have to kiss my unwashed feets ;)
I'm sure I will, Mister McAllister. :)
Sorry i'm not familiar with the reference.
Is he some foot fetishist?
:)
You tell me, dude.
You tell me.
9"W
I'm serious i'm really not getting it.
Come on enlighten me.
:)
Please don't put things like "Human Engineer" a major spoiler in your titles.
Quote from: goneja on Mar 23, 2012, 01:24:03 PM
Please don't put things like "Human Engineer" a major spoiler in your titles.
Just a theory.
But will fix this,just in case.
:)
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 23, 2012, 01:21:04 PM
I'm serious i'm really not getting it.
Come on enlighten me.
:)
Death is the only means of enlightenment.
Drop it and move on, please.
Thanks Valaquen.
Edited first post for spoilers and more clarity.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 21, 2012, 04:02:48 PM
I think she's a believer but not the "no sex before mariage" type.
Adding this element to the character seem unlikely in a studio movie.
They are already dealing with "gods", showing a virgin believer being raped is way too much.
Again i think that would quite unusual and ballsy but i don't think that it interest Scott to go that way.
She will be a godfearing believer who will meet gods and confront a "fake" god.
Just a random comment, but in terms of the fictional universe in which the film takes place, who's to say it's a "fake" god. Maybe those are the ONLY gods, who in this plotline created humanity. I think that tension and the disillusionment of her ideals and preconceived notions makes for a more interesting and developed plot conflict.
When i say she will confront a fake god i meant the human Engineer.
The WEYLAND or DAVID Engineer ^^
But in the end even the discovery of real gods, the Engineer, will destroy a "believer" because their definition will not meet what a "believer" would define as god. Discovering that our god is actually a super scientist would be quite soul crushing for a true believer.
I hope i was clear ^^
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 23, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
When i say she will confront a fake god i meant the human Engineer.
The WEYLAND or DAVID Engineer ^^
But in the end even the discovery of real gods, the Engineer, will destroy a "believer" because their definition will not meet what a "believer" would define as god. Discovering that our god is actually a super scientist would be quite soul crushing for a true believer.
I hope i was clear ^^
Clear as mud. If these super-scientist "gods" are part of our physical Universe, then who created them? Furthermore, if they are these hypothetical "supreme being(s)"...it is simply inconceivable (to me) why they would need to exploit the resources of other planets and civilizations.
Personally, I hope that Ridley simply shows Shaw's character having a temporary "crisis" of Faith. However, it does NOT automatically follow that such crisis results in loss of Faith. Very often, one passes through such a crisis with a deeper and stronger understanding / appreciation of their Faith, which fortifies the foundations of their belief . Of course, this obviously doesn't apply to everyone who undergoes such an experience...but I, for one, would be extremely dissastified if Ridley provides a pat "resolution", one way or the other.
Thanks for reassuring me about the clarity of my post ;
BTW The Prometheus world tour promo machine has started.
A journalist friend has received an invitation for an early april screening of PROMETHEUS extended clips in 3D with the presence of Scott, Theron, Fassbender and Rapace. I think others countries will get this screening before mine.
Quote from: SiUttley on Mar 21, 2012, 03:18:59 PM
If Holloway does impregnate Shaw, I have a feeling it might start off as love-making, which then takes a turn for the nightmarish as that worm thing bursts from Holloway into Shaw.
Yeah. That's the way I am seeing that also.
Quote from: duckman5150 on Mar 23, 2012, 10:51:17 PM
Quote from: SiUttley on Mar 21, 2012, 03:18:59 PM
If Holloway does impregnate Shaw, I have a feeling it might start off as love-making, which then takes a turn for the nightmarish as that worm thing bursts from Holloway into Shaw.
Yeah. That's the way I am seeing that also.
Incidently, when Holloway studies himself in the mirror, I think I can make out what looks like 2-3 scratchmarks on his shoulder, as in scrathmarks from another persons nails or a space cat :)
So, perhaps you are on to something....
Quote from: Eva on Mar 24, 2012, 12:23:05 AM
Incidently, when Holloway studies himself in the mirror, I think I can make out what looks like 2-3 scratchmarks on his shoulder, as in scrathmarks from another persons nails or a space cat :)
Space Cat isn't canon. Only Space Tapir is! >:(
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 24, 2012, 12:28:16 AM
Space Cat isn't canon. Only Space Tapir is! >:(
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"Take that back"
Quote from: Eva on Mar 24, 2012, 12:35:33 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 24, 2012, 12:28:16 AM
Space Cat isn't canon. Only Space Tapir is! >:(
http://www.spaceout.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/sad-cat.jpg
"Take that back"
And
you, you little shithead--you're staying here. :P
Hello!
This is from the article about the Titan Prometheus @ the Wikipedia:
(...)
Before his theft of fire, Prometheus played a decisive role in the Titanomachy, securing victory for Zeus and the other Olympians. Zeus's torture of Prometheus thus becomes a particularly harsh betrayal. The scope and character of Prometheus' transgressions against Zeus are also widened. In addition to giving humankind fire, Prometheus claims to have taught them the arts of civilization, such as writing, mathematics, agriculture, medicine, and science. The Titan's greatest benefaction for humankind seems to have been saving them from complete destruction. In an apparent twist on the myth of the so-called Five Ages of Man found in Hesiod's Works and Days (wherein Cronus and, later, Zeus created and destroyed five successive races of mortal men), Prometheus asserts that Zeus had wanted to obliterate the human race, but that he somehow stopped him.
(...)
Maybe ...:
David=Prometheus (after all, he is Inmortal as only a robot can be, just like the Titans were)
Space Jockey´s race=Gods (they created worlds through terraforming, and biological beings/human races through biotech)
Present Humans in the movie=Humankind V6.0 (V1.0 through V5.0 already obsolete)
Space Jockey´s ampule biotech goo=Fire
Maybe Ridley read this same article @Wikipedia when completing the script.
similarity:
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It has been noticed before but your image shows it very well.
Thanks :)
Wonder if the temples will stay rocks or show their gigerian side...
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Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 23, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
When i say she will confront a fake god i meant the human Engineer.
The WEYLAND or DAVID Engineer ^^
But in the end even the discovery of real gods, the Engineer, will destroy a "believer" because their definition will not meet what a "believer" would define as god. Discovering that our god is actually a super scientist would be quite soul crushing for a true believer.
I hope i was clear ^^
Ok then. ;D
Quote from: Lord Freezer on Mar 24, 2012, 08:40:03 PM
::)
http://i41.tinypic.com/29wsdi8.jpg
Jockey has more massive chin and sloping forehead, but I like your likening of them!
is that thing on the blue guys neck his neck or a collar on the suite?
Quote from: bobcunk on Mar 25, 2012, 06:56:24 AM
is that thing on the blue guys neck his neck or a collar on the suite?
If its holloway, then its his fashionable scarf.
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 25, 2012, 09:20:48 AM
Quote from: bobcunk on Mar 25, 2012, 06:56:24 AM
is that thing on the blue guys neck his neck or a collar on the suite?
If its holloway, then its his fashionable scarf.
;D
From others pics it seems it's his neck.
Either it's a design thing or because of the prosthetic.
Quote from: Lord Freezer on Mar 24, 2012, 01:16:35 PM
similarity:
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Where did you get the picture of the apc and the jockey infrastructure in the back??
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fnvrsys.jpg&hash=d24bdac213a46fdd93ffdedcd1aeb1a36629989a)
He looks a lot more like :P
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 23, 2012, 10:27:31 PM
Personally, I hope that Ridley simply shows Shaw's character having a temporary "crisis" of Faith. However, it does NOT automatically follow that such crisis results in loss of Faith.
if she don't lose her life, than maybe.
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 23, 2012, 10:27:31 PMPersonally, I hope that Ridley simply shows Shaw's character having a temporary "crisis" of Faith. However, it does NOT automatically follow that such crisis results in loss of Faith. Very often, one passes through such a crisis with a deeper and stronger understanding / appreciation of their Faith, which fortifies the foundations of their belief.
Faith is lost and rediscovered. It's a meta-trope of every single story you ever read. Personally, I hope Shaw not only loses her faith but is forced to confront her 'god' and kick her stupid ass.
Then become God.
Quote from: Infected on Mar 25, 2012, 10:07:57 AM
Quote from: Lord Freezer on Mar 24, 2012, 01:16:35 PM
similarity:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2Frub6z8.jpg&hash=a905d2a8ef8fea5449b81e311823fb8a370a06d9)
Where did you get the picture of the apc and the jockey infrastructure in the back??
That picture was a trophy to those who have figured out the password to 245409 page on project Prometheus site. You can find the picture here (http://www.projectprometheus.com/245409/img/DDM2DDM2.jpg).
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 25, 2012, 09:46:00 AM
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 25, 2012, 09:20:48 AM
Quote from: bobcunk on Mar 25, 2012, 06:56:24 AM
is that thing on the blue guys neck his neck or a collar on the suite?
If its holloway, then its his fashionable scarf.
;D
From others pics it seems it's his neck.
Either it's a design thing or because of the prosthetic.
Don't know why, but that shield-like thing at the back of Blue Guy's neck looks as if it's a collar of his suit. His hands are bare, so why this seemingly organic stuff, wrapped around him, can't be a costume?
His undersuit doesnt seem to have a collar.
But it does seem to cover the rear part of his neck tho.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg820.imageshack.us%2Fimg820%2F6152%2Fprometheustlrgh1080pmov.jpg&hash=1732364028fd45b896baf2e566b45e9dc2dd2925)
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 25, 2012, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Infected on Mar 25, 2012, 10:07:57 AM
Quote from: Lord Freezer on Mar 24, 2012, 01:16:35 PM
similarity:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2Frub6z8.jpg&hash=a905d2a8ef8fea5449b81e311823fb8a370a06d9)
Where did you get the picture of the apc and the jockey infrastructure in the back??
That picture was a trophy to those who have figured out the password to 245409 page on project Prometheus site. You can find the picture here (http://www.projectprometheus.com/245409/img/DDM2DDM2.jpg).
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 25, 2012, 09:46:00 AM
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 25, 2012, 09:20:48 AM
Quote from: bobcunk on Mar 25, 2012, 06:56:24 AM
is that thing on the blue guys neck his neck or a collar on the suite?
If its holloway, then its his fashionable scarf.
;D
From others pics it seems it's his neck.
Either it's a design thing or because of the prosthetic.
Don't know why, but that shield-like thing at the back of Blue Guy's neck looks as if it's a collar of his suit. His hands are bare, so why this seemingly organic stuff, wrapped around him, can't be a costume?
Thanks a lot.
Thats an amazing shot!! look at how good that all looks.
that huge harkonan structure...........is that what wanders the planets surface laying the ''temples'' ?
didnt the original design from gigers alien artbook feature tracks that it moved along??? im sure valequeen could answer that question......:)
It's Valaquen for O'Bannon's sake.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 25, 2012, 05:17:21 PM
His undersuit doesnt seem to have a collar.
But it does seem to cover the rear part of his neck tho.
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6152/prometheustlrgh1080pmov.jpg
Probably, but on this picture it looks like a separate from his neck stand-collar, and there was on these boards a gif, showing the Blue Guy around this moment, I seemed to notice he was slightly turning his head, and the collar remained motionless:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1123.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl546%2Faliennaire%2FPrometheus%2FBlueGuy.jpg&hash=2efa5a3bb387adbe9aa6a54da27255bd6386ffef)
But I don't exclude the possibility I can be mistaken, it's hard to make any conclusions upon the darkened and very short fragments off the trailers. ;)
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
that huge harkonan structure...........is that what wanders the planets surface laying the ''temples'' ?
didnt the original design from gigers alien artbook feature tracks that it moved along??? im sure valequeen could answer that question......:)
Not sure this DUNE design is in GIGERS ALIEN artbook.
The structure was supposed to be the Harkonnen Castle.
Looks like Giger is the owner of the design and can use them at will.
Scott seized the opportunity to use them.
Some nice infos about this castle here:
http://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/hr-giger.aspx (http://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/hr-giger.aspx)
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 25, 2012, 07:57:49 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 25, 2012, 05:17:21 PM
His undersuit doesnt seem to have a collar.
But it does seem to cover the rear part of his neck tho.
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6152/prometheustlrgh1080pmov.jpg
Probably, but on this picture it looks like a separate from his neck stand-collar, and there was on these boards a gif, showing the Blue Guy around this moment, I seemed to notice he was slightly turning his head, and the collar remained motionless:
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/aliennaire/Prometheus/BlueGuy.jpg
But I don't exclude the possibility I can be mistaken, it's hard to make any conclusions upon the darkened and very short fragments off the trailers. ;)
Really think it's an effect of the prosthetic.
But wait and see ^^
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 25, 2012, 08:08:25 PM
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 07:07:30 PM
that huge harkonan structure...........is that what wanders the planets surface laying the ''temples'' ?
didnt the original design from gigers alien artbook feature tracks that it moved along??? im sure valequeen could answer that question......:)
Not sure this DUNE design is in GIGERS ALIEN artbook.
The structure was supposed to be the Harkonnen Castle.
Looks like Giger is the owner of the design and can use them at will.
Scott seized the opportunity to use them.
Some nice infos about this castle here:
http://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/hr-giger.aspx (http://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/hr-giger.aspx)
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 25, 2012, 07:57:49 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 25, 2012, 05:17:21 PM
His undersuit doesnt seem to have a collar.
But it does seem to cover the rear part of his neck tho.
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6152/prometheustlrgh1080pmov.jpg
Probably, but on this picture it looks like a separate from his neck stand-collar, and there was on these boards a gif, showing the Blue Guy around this moment, I seemed to notice he was slightly turning his head, and the collar remained motionless:
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/aliennaire/Prometheus/BlueGuy.jpg
But I don't exclude the possibility I can be mistaken, it's hard to make any conclusions upon the darkened and very short fragments off the trailers. ;)
Really think it's an effect of the prosthetic.
But wait and see ^^
i think he had done multiple variations of the design , some used in the original alien concept work and another for dune ?? i think its the dune one that features the tracks ?? i just put the design of the dune variation + the fashion in which those '' temples'' are layed out + the nature of biomech + the alien mural giger did with the deralict framing the temple that features the xenomorph life stages .........
i am pretty sure that when scott mentioned DNA he meant that throughout the movie we will notice all of the little parts that go into the genetic make-up of the '' facehugger'' and the ''xenomorph'' variation that we all know and love :) and im also thinking that everything we have been shown in the trailers,previews, interviews etc etc are alot of the strands of dna that he has mentioned but also know that those little stages and dna strands are not going to be in your face stuff but things for fans of the series to ooo and aaaaaah about ;), without showing the creation process and not really making it a focal point ........except for in the last 12 mins of the movie :)
just some thoughts
and im sorry to say this because it is something ive seen mentioned a few times and its a point i want to put out there.....
on my blueray version of alien the very widepan shot of the area that the deralict is found does indeed feature mountains:) and i would even say the exact same valley that we have seen in the birdseye shot of the sjcraft ......a point someone else had brought up ( kinda) was that indeed the craft that we see explode and roll down the valley might not be the same one featured in the birdseye shot ( which may be the one from alien ) and is explained in the last 8mins as a fan service , i like the theory that somebody mentioned about the craft from alien being piloted by escaping survivors from prometheus :)
just some thoughts ( i like a little speculation )
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 25, 2012, 01:09:40 PM
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 23, 2012, 10:27:31 PMPersonally, I hope that Ridley simply shows Shaw's character having a temporary "crisis" of Faith. However, it does NOT automatically follow that such crisis results in loss of Faith. Very often, one passes through such a crisis with a deeper and stronger understanding / appreciation of their Faith, which fortifies the foundations of their belief.
Faith is lost and rediscovered. It's a meta-trope of every single story you ever read. Personally, I hope Shaw not only loses her faith but is forced to confront her 'god' and kick her stupid ass.
Then become God.
I agree that the idea of a main character having "fallen from grace" in some way, then seeks some kind of "salvation" or "redemption", is overplayed and pretty lame. (And not simply because those notions seem asinine to me, as an atheist, but because they are tired and overplayed themes, done to death and at the expense of more interesting inner conflict that could be going on with the characters.)
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 25, 2012, 07:08:19 PM
It's Valaquen for O'Bannon's sake.
Shh, don't give me away :D
Quote from: Eagle-Fire on Mar 25, 2012, 08:56:06 PM
and im sorry to say this because it is something ive seen mentioned a few times and its a point i want to put out there.....
on my blueray version of alien the very widepan shot of the area that the deralict is found does indeed feature mountains:) and i would even say the exact same valley that we have seen in the birdseye shot of the sjcraft ......a point someone else had brought up ( kinda) was that indeed the craft that we see explode and roll down the valley might not be the same one featured in the birdseye shot ( which may be the one from alien ) and is explained in the last 8mins as a fan service , i like the theory that somebody mentioned about the craft from alien being piloted by escaping survivors from prometheus :)
just some thoughts ( i like a little speculation )
Oh ho, we need a screen cap for the LV-426 thread!
Today i got confirmation i will be able to attend the special press screening (showing some scenes in 3D) taking place next week. I think they have to show some impressive stuff to wow and hook the audience but i hope nothing too spoilery.
I NEED to be there for personal reasons but i'm really affraid that they show too much.
Maybe i'll skip the screening... Nah!!! Don't think i can convince myself to do that...
Well whatever happens i'll post a report here :)
I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, if so, please forgive me. (it's hard to keep track with all the Prometheus threads)
Did anyone else notice the 3 Engineers with David in this pic?
(I know the image refers to them as Jockey's, but it's not my pic)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg853.imageshack.us%2Fimg853%2F7196%2Feuu79.jpg&hash=1d31f69e8dcd84d4d8e48c6affeb90acc9fd8e96)
...or are the holographic reflections?
...does the 'Jockey' exist at ALL, except for a teaching-tool?
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Apr 04, 2012, 10:49:53 PM
I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, if so, please forgive me. (it's hard to keep track with all the Prometheus threads)
Did anyone else notice the 3 Engineers with David in this pic?
(I know the image refers to them as Jockey's, but it's not my pic)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg853.imageshack.us%2Fimg853%2F7196%2Feuu79.jpg&hash=1d31f69e8dcd84d4d8e48c6affeb90acc9fd8e96)
Yes, we had a huge debate over it, and it was pretty much agreed that only the far left one is acutally an engineer, and the rest are stars/stellar information in the orrey.
He is pretty scary. I hope he will crush the head of David! ;D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4put.ru%2Fpictures%2Fmax%2F285%2F876765.gif&hash=4d6fb5eb146f208fb9e0592ee048d0e0d3dd6b8e)
I preferred him in Pitch Black.
:P
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 09, 2012, 05:54:11 PM
I preferred him in Pitch Black.
:P
oh you just didn't....... GTFO
As for that gif... that's gotta be Prometheus himself lol
Quote from: x-M-x on Apr 09, 2012, 06:01:00 PM
oh you just didn't....... GTFO
No u.
Spoiler
You know I'm kidding around, man. :D
In this photo its dimensions are comparable to those of a man:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F6696hs.jpg&hash=45dff5ed3e67c4da0590a59554155277685a1b91)
Could be a mutant human? Perhaps its size will increase...
Perhaps the real engineers are death. The only method for rise its a trap for a humans.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 09, 2012, 06:19:14 PM
Quote from: x-M-x on Apr 09, 2012, 06:01:00 PM
oh you just didn't....... GTFO
No u.
Spoiler
You know I'm kidding around, man. :D
lol,
Quote from: Lord Freezer on Apr 09, 2012, 06:30:18 PM
In this photo its dimensions are comparable to those of a man:
http://i39.tinypic.com/6696hs.jpg
Could be a mutant human? Perhaps its size will increase...
Perhaps the real engineers are death. The only method for rise its a trap for a humans.
hmmmm, Well look at the 'Pilot' in this pic, (the size i think has to play a MAJOR factor here..)
----
If the chair is indeed the same size as it once was in A.L.I.E.N ?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Favpunknown.com%2Fimg%2Fpilot.jpg&hash=526fc124ac743a3ab1cca842329d666eff621291)
Quote from: Lord Freezer on Apr 09, 2012, 05:52:04 PM
He is pretty scary. I hope he will crush the head of David! ;D
http://4put.ru/pictures/max/285/876765.gif
Thats one big mofo and he doesnt strike to me as the nerdy type.
Quote from: Lord Freezer on Apr 09, 2012, 06:30:18 PM
Perhaps the real engineers are death. The only method for rise its a trap for a humans.
very good theory, I thought about it too
Well first reactions to screenings are out
and i'm sorry for spoiling it guys.
For real but like i said before i'm good at that shit.
Would have loved to be wrong and bit dissappointed the story is that small.
Was expecting something more grand visually...
Well maybe in PARADISE ;)
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 01:38:40 PMFor real but like i said before i'm good at that shit.... Would have loved to be wrong
Riiiight.
More grand visually? Have you seen the film?
I'm not buying any of this crap. I can't believe that some people are using these tweets as evidence that the leaked script (which was the biggest pile of steaming shite I've ever read) is real !!!
I just remember reading a detailed (and accurate) precis of Star Trek before it was released and thinking, nah, it'll never be that rubbish... but then it was. And I do not want to be that disappointed again. Please Sir RS, make us all proud.
Ridley Scott cannot compete with years worth of speculation and story idea offerings. We're at the point now where less than a handful of people are more interested in what their idea for this film is or was, then the film that will be released. This is a losing battle. Scott can only make the film he set out to make.
Remember how panned Blade Runner was when it released? I do not believe that people will fully appreciate Prometheus until its been able to live in our culture for a while. I'm not saying that it's gonna be this perfect film, not at all. What I'm saying is, it will be a film made by a man with a clear vision. I'm only interested in that vision, and not everyone else's input into it.
I'm about sick to death of fandom. There is no pleasing anyone ever. It's an impossibility. As the days go by I find myself wondering if I'm surrounded by two year olds. :) :) :-* :( :o ??? ;D :D ;) :)
Sooooo... Where and when did you see the movie?
Oh, and i don't believe the "EPIC" story being "small" and Ridley Scott's move being visually "dissapointing"
Or do you mean that there are not many grand scale scenes in movie?
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 07, 2012, 02:00:20 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 01:38:40 PMFor real but like i said before i'm good at that shit.... Would have loved to be wrong
Riiiight.
I'm not going to lie, i'm kinda happy because it shows that my ideas and Scott's & co were on the same page and yeah there is a pride to be right on so many aspects of the movie months before it's release.
But yep i would have prefered to be wrong, see something not that i expected.
I had high hopes that the crash was the middle of the movie and not the climax for exemple.
And many others things too...
So yeah i'm conflicted between yep i was right bitches and f**k i was right so i've spoiled the movie for me.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 07, 2012, 02:01:58 PM
More grand visually? Have you seen the film?
No not yet.
But i think we have seen all the sets, an i have a good grasp of what are the action set pieces taking place.
I was hoping that what we've seen were from the first part of the movie and that something even bigger was going to happen in the second part (the Engineers homeworld for exemple).
But alas no, this is basically the original ALIEN script with creation stuff added to it.
It's ALIEN with more creatures and more action.
When i've heard that Scott said once that the derelict was a bioweapon transporter, going to war, but a war against who?
I've started to imagine something really way off from ALIEN some sort of intergalactic war beetween godlike races, something that would end up with AVATAR like massive battles but set in the ALIEN tough universe with also more intimate moments in it, more ALIEN like if you see what i mean.
Well i'm still very exited for the movie and i know i will love it, or i would have not defended my theories like i did.
I just hoped a surprise.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:16:08 PMSo yeah i'm conflicted between yep i was right bitches and f**k i was right so i've spoiled the movie for me.
Surely that ego boost of being so totally right can salve your disappointment about being so totally right. ::)
Quote from: ucdom on May 07, 2012, 02:04:41 PM
I'm not buying any of this crap. I can't believe that some people are using these tweets as evidence that the leaked script (which was the biggest pile of steaming shite I've ever read) is real !!!
I just remember reading a detailed (and accurate) precis of Star Trek before it was released and thinking, nah, it'll never be that rubbish... but then it was. And I do not want to be that disappointed again. Please Sir RS, make us all proud.
Wich script are you refering to?
I wrote the original synopsis one that leaked and the one called PARADISE and i never said they were legit, they were theories. If you're talking about the one with SHAW being probed or the one with VICKERS traveling throught time YEP THEY ARE SHIT.
Again like i said i' dont need to see the movie to know how it plays out in those sets.
And yes Scoot cannot compeat with what fans have been imagining for years (i even posted about the fact that fans need to accept what his take on the stry is period).
Now i'm gonna love that movie i'm sure of it don't even count me on the hater side.
I'm just dissapointed to have been right on one major plot device and that the movie is a bigger louder ALIEN.
The ALIEN that Scott would have wanted to do in the first place.
OH and chill guys ;)
Thanks for being civil, i'm just trying to say how i'm conflicted right now.
So you're not gonna see the Engineer home world or an intergalactic war...so that means the film is small? Dude...seriously? The only thing that's ruined Prometheus is YOU. Because the film isn't what YOU want, you're disappointed, but wait a second, oh yeah, you haven't even seen it yet.
You have ZERO credibility.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 07, 2012, 02:19:52 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:16:08 PMSo yeah i'm conflicted between yep i was right bitches and f**k i was right so i've spoiled the movie for me.
Surely that ego boost of being so totally right can salve your disappointment about being so totally right. ::)
Whats wrong with you?
It hurt you that someone you mocked finally was right all along?
If you can't understand that i'm not THAT happy about.
Shit whats wrong with you guys????
You don't seem to understand how i feel now... Especially with you guys...
I feel i should have kept my mouth shut.
I was referring to a 50-odd page screenplay that was posted over on prometheus-movie.com which was just awful, badly written, dreadful spelling and grammar. Some guy was trying to make out that it was a typical first draft screenplay, but speaking as a writer who has written screenplays, I respectfully disagree.
Anyway, it was drivel.
Just to be clear, I'm not referring to the summary in post 1 of this thread.
Yes, you should've. And cursing at people will just get you banned.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 07, 2012, 02:19:52 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:16:08 PMSo yeah i'm conflicted between yep i was right bitches and f**k i was right so i've spoiled the movie for me.
Surely that ego boost of being so totally right can salve your disappointment about being so totally right. ::)
Whats wrong with you?
It hurst you that someone you mocked finally was right all along?
If that it then f**k you.
If you can't understand that i'm not THAT happy about that then f**k you again.
Shit whats wrong with you guys????
You don't seem to understand how i feel now... Especially with you guys...
I feel i should have kept my mouth shut.
Don't think there was any need for that little outburst.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:29:01 PMI feel i should have kept my mouth shut.
Probably.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 07, 2012, 02:28:45 PM
So you're not gonna see the Engineer home world or an intergalactic war...so that means the film is small? Dude...seriously? The only thing that's ruined Prometheus is YOU. Because the film isn't what YOU want, you're disappointed, but wait a second, oh yeah, you haven't even seen it yet.
You have ZERO credibility.
Sorry did you not read me right or just the part you want????
Have you not read what i say about expectations???
About the fact that people need to accept what Ridley scott wants to do????
About the fact that i will definitly love this movie, i know it...
Try reading me when you are not angry (about what i dont know)...
BTW yes this is ME talking about MY feelings toward what i expect of this movie.
Are you stupid or what???
Who sad this was some sort of complete TRUTH about the movie.
This is MY view of course.
What a dumb statement to make but have to since it doesnt seem clear to you that i'm talking about ME.
As for zero credibility, what are you talking about????
But yeah you are right i have no credibility for notifiying everyone about screening taking place in early april neither for giger being let go of the movie (backed up by a mod).
And when i will see the movie before you and tell you that i was right about how ME MYSELF AN I feel about the movie.
Serously chill guys you are reading me wrong.
.........anyway.........I want to read ALL of the spoilers SOOO BAD!!!
8 more weeks, 8 more weeks!
Vulhala,
fixed :)
Yep i should.
Easy to say that now guys.
You have been mocking me and others for month because we shared ideas and theories based on what we saw.
Now that i'm about to be proven right you are not happy.
This kind of risks goes with this kind of forums.
At least i had the decency to warn everyone about it.
But you did not listen since you were too busy pointing fingers.
Whatever...
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 07, 2012, 02:44:22 PM
.........anyway.........I want to read ALL of the spoilers SOOO BAD!!!
8 more weeks, 8 more weeks!
DO NOT READ ANYTHING FROM NOW ON MATE.
Seriously the movie is gonna rock i'm sure of it.
DONT READ!!!!!!
Now about that Last Engineer, is he going to harm the characters or something?.
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:45:19 PMYou have been mocking me and others for month because we shared ideas and theories based on what we saw.
There has been no mockery of any ideas or theories on this forum. What is mocked is people who proclaim to know the plot, abuse anyone who calls bullshit on them and then, hilariously, feigns disappointment at being so right.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 19, 2012, 02:16:33 PM
First i want to make clear some details.
If you wanna stay fresh don't read the following post.
These are my theories but most of them are based on facts (either images from trailers, interviews and accurate leaks)
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO NOT BE SPOILED PLEASE DONT READ THIS!!!
To make it easier to track, i will update this first post with each new theory or discovery.
Spoiler
My checklist so far of theories proving to be right on the money :
Derelict class Engineer ship under the temple.
Giant Humanoid Engineers.
Ampules room is a DNA library.
Human crew Mutants.
Shaw "pregnancy" and surviving it.
Prometheus crashing into the Derelict class ship taking off to Earth.
ABOUT PETER WEYLAND BEING ON THE PROMETHEUS TRIP & THE HUMAN ENGINEER.
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 18, 2012, 03:59:04 PM
Ok guys,
first i guess its now safe to say that Guy Pierce is in the movie for more than a minute.
He's along for the ride as these images show :
David wakes up his "father" from his private cryo room :
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg716.imageshack.us%2Fimg716%2F5365%2Fprometheusimax3dtrailer.jpg&hash=ff3027a5eccb8b6b46f3159961b309048be97e0e)
In the background, Peter Weyland 83 years wearing an advanced SE suit with cadium exo-skeleton :
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"A king has his reign. Then he dies. It's inevitable."
So we have a dying egomaniac tycoon who proclamed himself a god on board of a mission to meet actual "gods" who mastered life itself. What if the king refuses the inevitable, finds a way to become immortal by stealing God's knowledge?
Or
It was made clear that an ENGINEER have been present on Earth having contact with different civilization troughout history. He might have left some sort of lineage, some descendants, who dicreetly use their incredible knowledge to help humanity evolve technologically. Maybe one of these descendant has no taste for discretion, he wants more, he wants to meet his ancestors...
Toward the climax of the movie SHAW fights a human sized character wearing an ENGINEER undersuit. I don't think it's HOLLOWAY who seems to be infected (maybe on purpose by someone on the crew) by the same parasite as FIFIELD hence he will become a crazy mutant creature too (leading to SHAW giving birth to the new xeno monster). I doubt it's an actual ENGINEER, they are titans. They probably could modify themselves to change height but this would be incredibly cheesy on screen and i doubt Scott will go that way. Could be DAVID also but the character with a story arc fitting perfectly this role in the climax is Sir PETER WELAND.
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The human ENGINEER would also explain this smaller pilot too
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One thing is sure we have actual ENGINEERS.
They will probably want to reap what they sowed on Earth.
To reborn themselves? To continue their experiments?
To destroy a race that has almost become their equal?
Also I don't think the movie end up after the crash.
Something, someone survives.
Dying or infected (black goo seen on FIFIELD & SHAW)?
Looks like in those final 8 minutes will witness a birth...
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ABOUT THE HUMAN ENGINEER BEING WEYLAND OR DAVID :
QuoteTo me there will be 4/5 types of creatures.
-The giant real ENGINEERS aka space jokeys.
-The microscopic lifeform that infects FIFIELD, HOLLOWAY (maybe others a few others), a parasite that grows inside its host and start to take over morphing its host into monsters.
SHAW will be infected by one of those, but she will extract the parasite herself with the medpod.
-The human/synth sized ENGINEER (i'll devellop later).
-Massive xeno like creatures born out of real giant ENGINEERS infected in the climax (i'll devellop later).
We will have actual ENGINEERS/SPACE JOCKEYS in the movie not only dead ones.
In the first pic, you can see that all the 4 giant sarcophagus are closed.
In the second pic, FORD (who dies early in the movie) looks up to one giant being.
In the third pic, you can see that the sarcophagus on the left is open.
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We will also have a human sized character wearing an ENGINEER undersuit fighting with SHAW in the movie's climax.
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So either our ENGINEER can change his size at will or a human/synth character uses the Engineer's tech. Size changing ENGINEERS could work on paper but i think it would look silly on screen. So i would rather go with the Human/Synth theory.
The first possible suspect could be PETER WEYLAND himself.
Wich is along for the ride with the Prometheus crew.
In the background, Peter Weyland 83 years wearing an advanced SE suit with cadium exo-skeleton :
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"A king has his reign. Then he dies. It's inevitable."
So we have a dying egomaniac tycoon who proclamed himself a god on board of a mission to meet actual "gods" who mastered life itself. What if the king refuses the inevitable, finds a way to become immortal by stealing God's knowledge?
His story arc would fit perfectly being our "Prometheus".
My second suspect is DAVID.
He does steal the ampule and seems quite happy with it.
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He also have a fight with VICKERS, maybe DAVID is not upfront with his real motives...
But its a very small detail that point me toward DAVID being a possible "Prometheus".
In the first pic you can see DAVID kneeling on the pilot console to activate it.
In the second pic, you can see the human sized character wearing an ENGINEER undersuit, kneeling at the exact same spot to activate the chair. I found weird that 2 different characters would act the same way.
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Also, I just realized that the being wearing the ENGINEERS undersuit is really human sized.
Check the console design on both pics, DAVID and the Being are at the same spot and have the same size.
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The small engineer is actually small and is not a mistake.
A human or synth does really steal the ENGINEER's tech!!!
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WE ARE THE ONES WHO f**k THINGS UP!!!
ABOUT THE ENGINEER RACE.
THE ENGINEER DESIGN AND THEIR SIZE.
QuoteRemember this leak way before any images :
QuoteA guy I know who's seen stills of the film has described to me what the Engineers actually look like. Huge, muscular, blue. Think Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen, but really tall. Just in case you guys were interested. I don't know how well that will turn out, but it's good news that they don't have elephant trunks.
An image to estimate the ENGINEERS size.
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The size fits DALLAS near the Space Jockey from ALIEN.
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/109/1096987/space-jockey-alien-4_1276542699.jpg
But i'm sure that when needed to Scott will "cheat" like when he used his kids in ALIEN.
Even if the actors playing Engineers in props suit are not really as tall as the Space Jockey, on screen they will appear to be much larger. If with camera trick they manage to make Tom Cruise look as tall as Michael Jordan in his films imagine what they can do with actual giant actors (i've heard they are around 7ft tall).
Size is never an issue in movies.
Many where misled by the tiny Engineer in the chair, when its clear that he is not an actual ENGINEER. Seriously as if Scott was gonna screw that bad about the scales... The human sized character wearing an ENGINEER suit, seen fighting SHAW and activating the pilot chair is a crew member of the Prometheus.
ENGINEER RACE EXTINCTION & MASSIVE XENOS ?
QuoteThe following quote is from a leak posted way before any picture of the pilot chair has been seen online:
QuotePrometheus, is going to be a very large and intense story, with a scope that is epic, the final act is where the movie switches gears and shifts into Aliens territory. Pinewood houses an exact replica of the H R Giger Space Jockey command post. You may notice in the original Alien that the Space Jockey had a puncture on its considerably large chest, where the xenomorph broke out through the flesh of the creature and broke through the biomechanical armor it wears. You may also notice how big the Space Jockey is in relation to its human counter parts in the film. So imagine how big the baby must be, which is yet to grow. Then imagine quite a few of these. If you can do that, you got a pretty good grasp on the final act. And do not be expecting the traditional look either, these are very different creatures that will keep the general architecture of the xenomorph, but will have a considerably different look, and do very perverse things.
Quote from: SiUttley on Mar 19, 2012, 02:50:12 PM
Interesting... With regards the sarcophagi, and apologies if this has been brought up already, aren't at least three of them in that image above, punctured around the chest area? I realise this may be face-palmingly obvious and has probably been discussed to death!
WOW!!!
WELL SPOTTED MATE!!!
I don't think it has been discussed, we didnt have that shot before.
We have heard about 3 actors playing ENGINEERS so where do they fit???
So massive creatures have been unleashed before the humans arrived...
Maybe they left "eggs" somewhere...
ARGHHHHHHH The plot thickens...
Also the chestbustered sarcophagus could explain why their race is extinct.
Remember the dead ENGINEER discovered when they enter the giant head room, also in the new trailer we have seen what looks like a pile of biomechanoid bodies in the tunnels leading to the ENGINEER's ship.
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Maybe they were running into hidings from one of their old weapon unleashed by mistake (or not) upon themselves. Some dignitaries made it into the ship (wich is some sort of dna noah's ark) but were already infected. Somebody noticed the ring planet, wich could mean that the Prometheus crew is on a planet in the area of LV426. Maybe the ALIEN space jockey, was also infected at the same moment but managed to flee the planet in the Derelict and
crashed on LV426.
THE TEMPLE(S) THE SHIP(S) ?
QuoteWhe know now that the temple(s) leads to the ENGINEER ship(s).
Here is a leak from way before we saw any image of the giant head sculpture :
QuoteThe head is a representation of the Engineer, some sort of leader for his civilization, a great scientist who has a cult following by his people. Probably because he masters the biomechnical technology that helps his race prevails over the universe.
At first we tought it was only one temple, one ship.
But now it's clear that the Prometheus lands on the ENGINEER homeworld or some huge launch base of some sort!!!
Hence NOT LV426!
Multiples Engineers temples = Mutiple Engineers ships!
Oh my god!!!
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THE THREAT TO EARTH?
QuoteIf the humans are compatible to Engineers, as the human sized Engineer points to, our Engineer leader might want to use the human population to resurect his race...
Quote from: NGR01 on Apr 27, 2012, 09:54:35 PM
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French magazine SFX has 3 great interviews with Arthur Max, Conor O'Sullivan prosthetics supervisor and Visual effect supervisor Richard Stammers. Each interview are 3 full pages, no spoilers per se but very interresting material.
I have not bought but i remember the most important stuff.
Arthur Max :
The Prometheus was designed by Steve Burg and Ben Procter.
The Prometheus is composed of independant parts that can separate from the main body if needed (Vickers area is a skif/ship by itself) doubt it will cometo play in the movie tho...
The approach to the Engineers tech was to take the Giger look but make it more mechnical than bio by adding an obvious metal feel. Engineers are partly inspired by the persian civilisation.
Richard Stammers Visual effect supervisor :
Weta is doing all the xeno like creatures.
There were sculptures on set so the actors can react but those monsters will be full cgi.
Weta also did the rise of the pilot chair sequence.
They used model kits from the market to help them remake the pilot chair.
The Juggernaut is full CGI, it has been re-designed by Steve Messing.
The original derelict was not detailed enough they had to recreate them, GUTALIN was hired to for that, his Gigerian but yet more mechanical style was perfect for the look they wanted.
At first it was tought it would be necessarry to use models for the colision and crash but after seeing the Yatch scene from xmen first class (???) he decided to go full cgi.
When Scott visits MPC, he doesnt stay in the reunion room but go check the cgi artists themselves, giving input or modification on the spot.
Conor O'Sullivan prosthetics supervisor :
The Engineer and his suit have been designed by Nevil Page.
He has a very symitrical face wich enchance his alieness even if he is humanoid.
At first Scott was not sure that prosthetics could achieve teh level of details he wanted.
Conor told him they use now a great technique that has remarkable results (there is a long explanation of what it is in the interview). At first Connor made a test, he sculpted the Engineer's head, then animated the eyes by cgi.
It was part of the showreel Scott showed Fox to get the greenlight.
The Enginneer is not a full suit but is made of many many many prosthetic parts from head to toes.
Ian Whyte played the Engineer for all the scene with the humans (wich take place in the second part of the movie), when Engineer(s) are alone it's normally sized actors.
For the closeups Ian Whyte face did not worked, they could not get the look they wanted so they used the "normal" actors wich have been also chosen because of their face.
One scene got Connor a bit nervous because the Engineer is almost fully naked.
He was not sure the thin material would resist the shoot, he explain how they did it and says how much it looks good on screen. Ian Whyte had a 32 days shoot, they had to replace the suit every 3 days.
He end up saying that he's really happy how the character feel alive on screen.
That he is not a special effect but a living and breathing and frightening creature.
Oh he also talks about an aging makeup of one of the characters (guess who ^^) wich has to be done faster than usual because the actor was cast a few weeks near the shooting.
Probably forgot some stuff but i think all the juicy details are there ;)
Threads like this, and the myriad replies, make me wonder why some people bother to go and see movies in the first place ???
What really is the point in trying to figure out what will happen, and some here do this zealously, before you go and sit in the movie theatre ??!!
Surely the element of surprise is hugely important towards the enjoyment of a picture, as is that magical journey of discovery when the curtain rises ?
Really what the Hell is the purpose of a thread like this, and why bother going to see the film if youve managed to 'cleverly' work out everything thats going to happen before you see it ?
(I didnt read anything within this thread other than the title in case anyone was wondering)
Quote from: mastermoon on May 07, 2012, 02:50:27 PM
Now about that Last Engineer, is he going to harm the characters or something?.
I venture to guess given what we briefly see of Ford and Noomi
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in the film he probably feels compelled to choke a bitch or two after waking up.
I'd be pissed too if I woke up and saw a bunch of monkey's going through my stuff. Have to bring out the hurtin' stick.
Plus,
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David being totally torn asunder in that one shot people were dissecting.
I was reading the spoilers and it was said the Last Engineer is human sized in scenes were there is human characters near him.
Which makes plenty of sense given the guy who's playing him is 7 feet tall.
Quote from: mastermoon on May 07, 2012, 02:50:27 PM
Now about that Last Engineer, is he going to harm the characters or something?.
Spoiler
Well if you saw the trailer you know that the Engineers had past contact with humanity and it did not ended up badly... Only way this new contact would go wrong is that the humans act like asses i think...
JKS1,
well i do have an excuse for doing so.
It has to do with my job, so won't go further into that.
I usually do it for myself only but got cuaght in the game here.
But yeah it's like the moth and light thing...
MASTERMOON,
the spoilers are supposed to stay spoilers please be carefull.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 07, 2012, 03:13:18 PM
Which makes plenty of sense given the guy who's playing him is 7 feet tall.
Whats with the rumor of the Last Engineer planning to transform humans into new engineers.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 07, 2012, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:45:19 PMYou have been mocking me and others for month because we shared ideas and theories based on what we saw.
There has been no mockery of any ideas or theories on this forum. What is mocked is people who proclaim to know the plot, abuse anyone who calls bullshit on them and then, hilariously, feigns disappointment at being so right.
Well i'm only human sorry.
Nobody has explained the deal about the rumor if the Last Engineer will transform humans into new engineers.
I only watched the 1 early and the 2 recent trailers and based on that I think there are only 2 "realistic" options what they are/what their goal is (but with enough room to continue speculating of course). I
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2
Can I remind people to use spoiler tags. Despite the topic title, people will still venture in here to test the waters. So let's stick to the tags. :)
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 07, 2012, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:45:19 PMYou have been mocking me and others for month because we shared ideas and theories based on what we saw.
There has been no mockery of any ideas or theories on this forum. What is mocked is people who proclaim to know the plot, abuse anyone who calls bullshit on them and then, hilariously, feigns disappointment at being so right.
Well i'm only human sorry.
How can plants be human? :o
Quote from: Valaquen on May 07, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
Can I remind people to use spoiler tags. Despite the topic title, people will still venture in here to test the waters. So let's stick to the tags. :)
What kind of sense does that make!? >:(
Gah, fine. *protoss face* "Your will, executor!" *goes to edit posts*
So, unless I am mistaken, it appears that the only purported public viewing is by this single Twitter person (Janany). I can't seem to find any corroboration that there was even a screening.
I find this highly suspicious, and expect it is bulls**t...unless additional, independent reports come in.
NGR01, riding the coat-tails of this highly dubious Twitter person is not doing anything for your credibility, my friend.
Anyone who's actually still believing there's any truth in it is an idiot.
Quote from: Vulhala on May 07, 2012, 06:02:04 PM
Anyone who's actually still believing there's any truth in it is an idiot.
why? back it up.
Im still 50/50.
I lurk on SomethingAwful, and there's a longtime poster there who apparently worked on the 3D for the film for months. He weighed in on this today and said "I don't know what film she saw, but it's not Prometheus." After that, I broke down and read the tweets because I believe that guy. Based on what I saw, none of it is too surprising - a lot is stuff we'd extrapolated from footage, spec or hinted in interviews. Sounds good true or false, but atm I am leaning towards false.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 07, 2012, 07:05:16 PM
I lurk on SomethingAwful, and there's a longtime poster there who apparently worked on the 3D for the film for months. He weighed in on this today and said "I don't know what film she saw, but it's not Prometheus." After that, I broke down and read the tweets because I believe that guy. Based on what I saw, none of it is too surprising - a lot is stuff we'd extrapolated from footage, spec or hinted in interviews. Sounds good true or false, but atm I am leaning towards false.
how do we know 3D guy is legit? usually people who actually work on the film have better things to do then debate whether a university student watched a film or not.
Just some guy who has bull shitted his way to some level of respect and so people hang on his every word.
So is the movie 3D filmed or Post production 3d "enhanced". "Worked on the 3d for months" sounds like post produced.
Quote from: GreatKnower on May 07, 2012, 07:10:15 PM
So is the movie 3D filmed or Post production 3d "enhanced". Worked on the 3d for months sounds like post produced.
I thought it was filmed, i could be wrong though. I'll only see it in 3D if its filmed in 3D, i don't want to watch any 'cardboard cutouts' in this film!.
It was filmed using the Red Epic 3D cameras
All I know is he said he worked on the film for 7 months, and has been at SA since 2005. He's a relatively infrequent poster in the thread, IIRC, or at least very reserved with his comments on the film.
QuoteI worked on the film for 7 months, saw it dozens of times. Cut in the final version of the end crawl on Wednesday, my last day. I don't know what this person saw, but it wasn't Prometheus.
Someone else asked him if he worked on the 3D effects, I didn't see a response. I haven't gone back through the guy's past history but he always seemed legit to me because for the large part, he did. not. talk. about his work on the film in any terms that would violate a NDA (which I have signed before and can relate to)
So are the surviving Space Jockeys in suspended animation when the Prometheus finds them?
Quote from: Vulhala on May 07, 2012, 06:02:04 PM
Anyone who's actually still believing there's any truth in it is an idiot.
Please be true.
Please be true.
Quote from: Deuterium on May 07, 2012, 05:56:22 PM
NGR01, riding the coat-tails of this highly dubious Twitter person is not doing anything for your credibility, my friend.
Welli don't really care about credibility about that since i never said i had any insight infos.
My credibility has a person as been tested with the press screenings of Prometheus scenes in early april.
Now i'm like you guys, it was posted by a mod, it seems the girl has been grilled with questions, so think it was legit.
Hence what i'm saying.
But like i said i hope this is false and that i got it wrong about you know who.
A friend of mine who works at fox in LA has told me that there have been ZERO screenings for anyone with the exception of Ridley Scott and Fox executves.
Getting stinkier by the minute. Am I allowed to exhale now?
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on May 07, 2012, 02:19:52 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on May 07, 2012, 02:16:08 PMSo yeah i'm conflicted between yep i was right bitches and f**k i was right so i've spoiled the movie for me.
Surely that ego boost of being so totally right can salve your disappointment about being so totally right. ::)
Whats wrong with you?
It hurt you that someone you mocked finally was right all along?
If you can't understand that i'm not THAT happy about.
Shit whats wrong with you guys????
You don't seem to understand how i feel now... Especially with you guys...
I feel i should have kept my mouth shut.
NGR01, I think the above exchange pretty much says everything that needs to be said. You seemed pretty damned proud of your perceived "insight", right up until the moment that everyone now is recognizing what a bunch of bulls**t this Twitter fiasco really is. Now, it seems you are back-pedaling as fast as you can. So, now are you trying to tell us that you realized this was crap all along??
Sorry, I guess I am just a bit confused.
And don't play the wounded and misunderstood prophet. You have continuously promoted yourself as having some special "inside" information and/or insight into the details of Prometheus...NONE of which has been borne out. Nor, none of which couldn't be inferred from the original teasers and subsequent official trailers.
Quote from: Deuterium on May 07, 2012, 05:56:22 PM
So, unless I am mistaken, it appears that the only purported public viewing is by this single Twitter person (Janany). I can't seem to find any corroboration that there was even a screening.
I find this highly suspicious, and expect it is bulls**t...unless additional, independent reports come in.
NGR01, riding the coat-tails of this highly dubious Twitter person is not doing anything for your credibility, my friend.
There was a discussion on twiter between Ikarop and someone called Bloody Brooklyn. she said he attended a Prometheus screening, and will be providing a screening reaction to avpgalaxy
https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198567732185268224 (https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198567732185268224)
https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198975358123524097 (https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198975358123524097)
https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198783441247023107 (https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198783441247023107)
Quote from: zuzuki on May 08, 2012, 07:32:55 AM
Quote from: Deuterium on May 07, 2012, 05:56:22 PM
So, unless I am mistaken, it appears that the only purported public viewing is by this single Twitter person (Janany). I can't seem to find any corroboration that there was even a screening.
I find this highly suspicious, and expect it is bulls**t...unless additional, independent reports come in.
NGR01, riding the coat-tails of this highly dubious Twitter person is not doing anything for your credibility, my friend.
There was a discussion on twiter between Ikarop and someone called Bloody Brooklyn. she said he attended a Prometheus screening, and will be providing a screening reaction to avpgalaxy
https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198567732185268224 (https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198567732185268224)
https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198975358123524097 (https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198975358123524097)
https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198783441247023107 (https://twitter.com/#!/BloodyBrooklynn/status/198783441247023107)
NEVERMIND , I SEE THIS WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED IN ANOTHER THREAD. Unless ikarop says he actually received something from this chick, it's probably bs
Deuterium
Spoiler
Huh????
Where do i say i knew the twitter thing was crap?????
I still don't know it is. I hope it is because it will mean my main theory has not been proven right.
Yep i guess you are confused. Or as usual you reading what you want and twisting my words to fit your attack.
Whatever, coz anyone that has not an agenda to attack me can read my post and clearly see what i've been saying.
Well as for playing anything i'll leave that to people like you.
I'm not playing anything i'm being honest, especially in those recent post when i expreess my feeling toward the movie if that twitter thing is true. As for insider info, looks like again you chose to ignore on purpose stuff like the Giger VS Max thing (backed up by a mod, he's probably lying too right?) or the fact that scene screenings were taking place early april and that attended the one in Paris... But as always with the like of you you're always around to point fingers but never when stuff is proven or backed up.
As for the stuff i found that could be of course seen in all the teaser and trailers i will let you choke on you dishonesty because most of the stuff i said, i said it before those were released...
But hey it's not like i'm used to this coming from people like you.
When you will have the decency to read all of my post and not interpret them maybe we will have something constructive to talk about until then if it's just me that you want to attack don't bother you probably have better things to do that lose time with a self promoting lier :)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 08, 2012, 02:11:01 AM
A friend of mine who works at fox in LA has told me that there have been ZERO screenings for anyone with the exception of Ridley Scott and Fox executves.
Did they not do a test preview screening at least?
Remember the link we had about a screenning taking place and the guy who said he was going? The guy was bogus it seems but did the screening took place?
I would be suprised that fox did not do any test screening.
Still no press screening notification on my side tho, i hope they are not holding it for or after Cannes. Doubt they will show it at Cannes to the press because it would be lost amid all the movies...
Not lost çn a sense people would not see or ear from it but that the journalist a way too much busy to give proper time to movies... It's the rush...
One thing is for sure they need to show the movie to the press before the first week of june so that the articles release fit the movie release, usually the movie magazines finish to make their future issue 2/3 weeks before being on the stands.
Hence they should make screening next week i guess...
We'll see...
I got sick of waiting for someone to ask her and so I joined twitter and
tweeted her a question about the pic I use on my twitter DP
My twitter link (dont bother following me, I wont use it again after this): https://twitter.com/#!/Kev37295902
You can see the picture Im referring too and here is her answer and my original question:
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Spoiler
@JNadhan if the creatures that appear at the end look anything like the creature in my DP? thanks 3/3
Her reply...
"YES. They look same as one in film but only the face and eyes. head is smaller. "
So, em, it doesn't quite prove or disprove anything.
hmmm. hmm. indeed. I think this is bullshit. Just speculation pulled together from trailers. (the girl from twitter's speculation)
Um it was pretty much hinted at that holoway has sex with shaw to infect her, you can see that holoway is infected in one of the trailers via that thing moving around in his eye, and in one trailer you see shaw and him embracing and kissing in a way that makes it clear they are going to have sex, whether its fully depicted onscreen or not. Also, the "mind control" could simply be speculated because of how Ford was shaking in the trailer, and its clearly a jockey she encoutners. The tentacles on the thing that births from shaw, and the fact that these creatures have to have a way to reproduce without sexual reproduction, as they are engineered by the jockeys to infect other species(i think its safe to say that much is known), makes it quite possible that this thing gets loose and most likely infects the jockey.
I think that the "mind control" is not by mental telepathy but rather a parasite controls the hosts central nervous system. As you may have noticed, fifeld's head gets bigger and distorted. Also the space jockey head they take back apparently has something in it. So I take it that Ford and Fifeld get infected with a mind parasite. It's harder to say what happens to holoway, as he must be mutating too in order to produce a squid thing in shaw's womb.
We do know that david gets decapitated somehow: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3780/shawh.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3780/shawh.jpg)
I don't believe in any mind control thing from the ENGINEER.
Ford is shaking out of fear like Lambert in ALIEN.
Imagine a 7ft tall Humanoid alien walking toward you...
NRG01 i actualy like your theary mate and think its alot less terribale than some of the shit thats been floating around the web ( have you read the supposed leaked script for prometheus ,it was undinibley shit !) well done for some forward thinking mate :laugh:
the other thing that leads me to believe that your theiry is true is that when you see the scene when Shaw is cowering under the jockey/engineer look at its hands they are tiny compared to the actual Jockey seen in Alien as is the body !The plot thikins my friend :o
OOOPS NRG01 just realised that i was bad mouthing the prometheus script u wrote about Shaw giving birth to a half alien thing and cradling it in her arms at the end crying. sorry mate but it was shit! but still loving your take on Prometheus :laugh:
The only person who wins out of this is the twitter girl, regardless of whether she is proved right or wrong.
People have wasted two days arguing about it - if fake she is probably LOL. The facts are no ones know anything. No credible evidence to disprove her and non to back her up. All we have are guesses.
We will find out soon enough.
In regards to losing credability...BITCH PLEASE!!! Lol its the internet.
Quote from: boabwalker on May 09, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
NRG01 i actualy like your theary mate and think its alot less terribale than some of the shit thats been floating around the web ( have you read the supposed leaked script for prometheus ,it was undinibley shit !) well done for some forward thinking mate :laugh:
the other thing that leads me to believe that your theiry is true is that when you see the scene when Shaw is cowering under the jockey/engineer look at its hands they are tiny compared to the actual Jockey seen in Alien as is the body !The plot thikins my friend :o
OOOPS NRG01 just realised that i was bad mouthing the prometheus script u wrote about Shaw giving birth to a half alien thing and cradling it in her arms at the end crying. sorry mate but it was shit! but still loving your take on Prometheus :laugh:
Thanks mate ;)
i did no wrote the fake script you are refering to :)
Wich one is it? The one were Shaw is insiminated by probesin the Engineers ship?
yeh i think thats the one NRG01 . it involved loads a tubes and tenticles and stuff and while souding very H.R. Giger i dont think it would work in this film, however Shaw obviousley gets inpregnated with something and its gonna be fun seeing the big payoff as Scott has already been qoted as saying that this film will have its own chest burster- esk scene and i think this may be it ,june the first isnt coming quick enoughth ,this could well be the movie ive been dreaming of since watching Alien when i was about seven yrs old and being amazed by the space jockey scene and the mystery of it. i just hope that after twenty five years of waiting its not a case of some things are best left unsaid, i do have trust in Ridley however as it was as much his vision along with giger,o'bannon and co that started this whole fantastic weird/ grusome mess ;D
NGR01..... ? Is this the same person as Engineer1? Just wondering, because if so then everything you have said makes total sense coming from you.
Havent posted here in a while but keep checking the site all the time and if you are in fact Engineer1, which I will assume you will deny now, then you are trying to trick us all as you have done in the past. No offense buddy, you might very well be right, though I think you are not, but we stopped believing you long long time ago... Anthony
daaayum, son.
that's harsh
AnthonyWC70788
Spoiler
Quote from: AnthonyWC70788 on May 13, 2012, 11:17:56 AM
NGR01..... ? Is this the same person as Engineer1? Just wondering, because if so then everything you have said makes total sense coming from you.
Havent posted here in a while but keep checking the site all the time and if you are in fact Engineer1, which I will assume you will deny now, then you are trying to trick us all as you have done in the past. No offense buddy, you might very well be right, though I think you are not, but we stopped believing you long long time ago... Anthony
Huh???
Who's denying what.
Once again you and the like of you imagine stuff then repêat it as if it was gospel.
Never denied i was Engineer 1.
When did i tricked you?
When i left because of heated arguments over the fact that i said that i knew that Giger was let goin favor of Max, wich has been backed up by a mod since then (Ikarop), did i tricked you when i said that all led to humanoid engineer, that Shaw gets impregnated and survives, that the temple hides the juggernaut, that the Prometheus crashes into the juggernaut?
That informed everybody before anyone in the world that scenes screening were taking place early april?
That i posted a video of the event i attended?
Yep really tricked you mate...
The problem with you guys is that you mixed what i knew from facts and what i deducted on my own.
So if you feel tricked by anything it's your problem.
Coz i never left because i was exposed as a lier or anything i left because of dumbf**ks who knew shit about shit and keep harrassing me.
Now before pointing any fingers and choose what you want to remember check my post as NGR1 and Engineer1 and you will have no choice but to come to the conclusion that i did not trick anyone.
I don't think the mods would let me in if i was that trickster you're talking about but hey maybe they are tricksters too huh?
Good day to you too.
This place is weird.
Quote from: ucdom on May 13, 2012, 03:25:03 PM
This place is weird.
Haha, yes it is sometimes. And you should have really seen it when it was a down time early on with the Prometheus marketing train lol....
Ah ok Engineer1, NGR01, NGR1, whatever it is today. Explain to me this then.....
First.... Why did you create a new username and come back as someone else instead of Engineer1? And now I am assuming possibly more screen names than this?
Second.... How is it that you, who claim to know so much about the movie, and I will give you that, that some of it is right we would assume, would know so much about the movie so early on? And when I say early on I mean really early on as Engineer 1? Worked on set? Have friends? What? Please dont tell me it is by what others have said on the internet and what you have put together on your own from the footage from trailers.
Seriously I would like to know more about these questions. And if you do answer, please tell me this, is there something else that you know that you are leaving out entirely, like something really huge possibly. Kind of sucks if you do know all of this stuff for fact and you come on here spoiling it all for us so early on. but I guess that is just what kind of site it is, a speculation and spoiler site ;-/
Thanks... Anthony
Quote from: AnthonyWC70788 on May 13, 2012, 05:38:04 PM
Quote from: ucdom on May 13, 2012, 03:25:03 PM
This place is weird.
Haha, yes it is sometimes. And you should have really seen it when it was a down time early on with the Prometheus marketing train lol....
Ah ok Engineer1, NGR01, NGR1, whatever it is today. Explain to me this then.....
First.... Why did you create a new username and come back as someone else instead of Engineer1? And now I am assuming possibly more screen names than this?
Second.... How is it that you, who claim to know so much about the movie, and I will give you that, that some of it is right we would assume, would know so much about the movie so early on? And when I say early on I mean really early on as Engineer 1? Worked on set? Have friends? What? Please dont tell me it is by what others have said on the internet and what you have put together on your own from the footage from trailers.
Seriously I would like to know more about these questions. And if you do answer, please tell me this, is there something else that you know that you are leaving out entirely, like something really huge possibly. Kind of sucks if you do know all of this stuff for fact and you come on here spoiling it all for us so early on. but I guess that is just what kind of site it is, a speculation and spoiler site ;-/
Thanks... Anthony
He's a plant...don't water him and watch him wither...
One thing's for sure...I'll crap my pants if they use 'feline solution' in the hypersleep chambers.
AnthonyWC70788,
This is not the place to have this discussion
i'll answer you by PM :)
Quote from: Ooze on First on May 13, 2012, 06:50:27 PM
One thing's for sure...I'll crap my pants if they use 'feline solution' in the hypersleep chambers.
"Feline Solution" is the best thing to take when you get a 'Mind-Grain'...and I certainly had one after reading that 'script'...
Hello after searching online to discuss prometheus i found this fan site. I along with others who sent comments via facebooks 'areyouseeingthis' were invited to see a special screening of Prometheus in London. I sent a facebook message on it how amazing the trailer looked and how I'm not a scifi fan but this has hyped me up for the film. I got a PM via email from 20th century fox who invited me to see the film. I didn't have to pay for ticket but i did have to pay the £67 in travelling expenses.
If you find this a too big a spoiler then delete it if you must. But I'll give you a review of the film. I dont know how to activate a spoiler black out though so any help from moderators would be nice :)
So here's my review of the film
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
Quote from: areyouseeingthis on May 14, 2012, 03:06:42 AM
Hello after searching online to discuss prometheus i found this fan site. I along with others who sent comments via facebooks 'areyouseeingthis' were invited to see a special screening of Prometheus in London. I sent a facebook message on it how amazing the trailer looked and how I'm not a scifi fan but this has hyped me up for the film. I got a PM via email from 20th century fox who invited me to see the film. I didn't have to pay for ticket but i did have to pay the £67 in travelling expenses.
If you find this a too big a spoiler then delete it if you must. But I'll give you a review of the film. I dont know how to activate a spoiler black out though so any help from moderators would be nice :)
So here's my review of the film
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the french magazine "L'ecran fantastique" interview of prosthetic supervisor Connor Osullivan he says that the almost naked Engineer will be seen in Earth's beggining of time scenes and that he is called the sacrifice Engineer.
In the trailer he is seen in cloak walking near a waterfall then whatching his hands (and body) shattering, dissolving,mutating slowly. I wonder if he's not gonna desintigrate completely and fall into that river hence creating the primordial soup that will lead to the creation of life and man on earth.
I dunno, just some random thinking ^^
The other thread was locked because that review isn't true. For one there are at least 2 other people on the Prometheus as it crashes into the juggernaut. You can see them in all of the trailers. Of course, unless that fireball in Janeks eye is the gift of fire... lol
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 14, 2012, 12:16:05 PM
The other thread was locked because that review isn't true. For one there are at least 2 other people on the Prometheus as it crashes into the juggernaut. You can see them in all of the trailers. Of course, unless that fireball in Janeks eye is the gift of fire... lol
Yeah, Ravel and Chance are in their respective co-pilot seats whilst Janek is at the helm.
After reading the review for nearly twenty times, it dawned on me that the last few minutes of the movie did not really tie-in with Alien.
Quote from: cossack0909 on May 14, 2012, 12:52:19 PM
After reading the review for nearly twenty times, it dawned on me that the last few minutes of the movie did not really tie-in with Alien.
I felt this is what made it incredibly uninspired, and therefore surely not true. It was trying too hard to connect back into Alien. Shaw wakes up 15 years later (ala Ripley in ALIENS), is introduced to the CEO of Weyland-Yutani, and they are on their way to the Alien homeworld...
Except these Aliens write bibles and hold sermons on the Mount. ::)
Oh, sweet-gibbering fark...
...really?
...REALLY?
Its a Fake According to a user of prometheus forum
http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/825/advance-prometheus-screening-reaction-spoilers/p37 (http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/825/advance-prometheus-screening-reaction-spoilers/p37)
Quote from: cossack0909 on May 14, 2012, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: areyouseeingthis on May 14, 2012, 03:06:42 AM
Hello after searching online to discuss prometheus i found this fan site. I along with others who sent comments via facebooks 'areyouseeingthis' were invited to see a special screening of Prometheus in London. I sent a facebook message on it how amazing the trailer looked and how I'm not a scifi fan but this has hyped me up for the film. I got a PM via email from 20th century fox who invited me to see the film. I didn't have to pay for ticket but i did have to pay the £67 in travelling expenses.
If you find this a too big a spoiler then delete it if you must. But I'll give you a review of the film. I dont know how to activate a spoiler black out though so any help from moderators would be nice :)
So here's my review of the film
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could it be that cossack and areyouseeingthis are the same user?
areyouseeingthis posts a fake review of a "screening" he never actually saw.
Then Cossack posts wow!!!!! after it, not just in this thread, but in the exact same way in a new thread he created.
Any thoughts?
Alright, this was posted by one of our users named Eva. She kept in the thread but I am crossposting this here since it seems Legit. The source is IMDB(ugh) according to Eva, and apparently this was taken during a screening event.
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi48.tinypic.com%2F2i87ki0.jpg&hash=001b230ab71dfd22aac36eb0fcb4fbe1e4d79d60)
Click to reveal some awesome sauce above and explanation below.
Spoiler
It's Noomi climbing into the vaginal opening of the Derelict using a grappling hook, if you look in the background there is a second derelict as well. Ugh I really need to stop calling the Jockey Class ships Derelicts LOL. Juggernaut Juggernaut Juggernaut.
All credit goes to Eva for the find, thanks Eva!
I don't think that's another 'Derelict' in the background...rather just some smoke or clouds.
Why a "second" derelict. Couldn't we be viewing the converging terminal ends of the derelict's "claws", in the background?
If this image is legit, it also confirms what many suspected a while ago, the derelict (or Juggernaught) eventually falls from it upright position as shown in the trailer. (I'd say that was definately the planet surface below Rapace anyway)
Quote from: Deuterium on May 14, 2012, 08:41:54 PM
Why a "second" derelict. Couldn't we be viewing the converging terminal ends of the derelict's "claws", in the background?
The knobby bit to the left looks like the backend of another Derelict Class ship. But I supposed it could be one of the forward Prongs but it doesn't look like it to me.
My thought was maybe multiple derelicts rising out of the ground.
Quote from: Qwertify on May 14, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: cossack0909 on May 14, 2012, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: areyouseeingthis on May 14, 2012, 03:06:42 AM
Hello after searching online to discuss prometheus i found this fan site. I along with others who sent comments via facebooks 'areyouseeingthis' were invited to see a special screening of Prometheus in London. I sent a facebook message on it how amazing the trailer looked and how I'm not a scifi fan but this has hyped me up for the film. I got a PM via email from 20th century fox who invited me to see the film. I didn't have to pay for ticket but i did have to pay the £67 in travelling expenses.
If you find this a too big a spoiler then delete it if you must. But I'll give you a review of the film. I dont know how to activate a spoiler black out though so any help from moderators would be nice :)
So here's my review of the film
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could it be that cossack and areyouseeingthis are the same user?
areyouseeingthis posts a fake review of a "screening" he never actually saw.
Then Cossack posts wow!!!!! after it, not just in this thread, but in the exact same way in a new thread he created.
Any thoughts?
Nah, areyouseeingthis apparently is a new member. I have been around since 2009. I was reacting as a shocked fan that the poster really gave a detailed review and how lucky for him/her to have watch it. A reflex action, I would say. But the last few moments of the review is doubtful, to say the least.
Quote from: cossack0909 on May 14, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
Quote from: Qwertify on May 14, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
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Quote from: areyouseeingthis on May 14, 2012, 03:06:42 AM
Hello after searching online to discuss prometheus i found this fan site. I along with others who sent comments via facebooks 'areyouseeingthis' were invited to see a special screening of Prometheus in London. I sent a facebook message on it how amazing the trailer looked and how I'm not a scifi fan but this has hyped me up for the film. I got a PM via email from 20th century fox who invited me to see the film. I didn't have to pay for ticket but i did have to pay the £67 in travelling expenses.
If you find this a too big a spoiler then delete it if you must. But I'll give you a review of the film. I dont know how to activate a spoiler black out though so any help from moderators would be nice :)
So here's my review of the film
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could it be that cossack and areyouseeingthis are the same user?
areyouseeingthis posts a fake review of a "screening" he never actually saw.
Then Cossack posts wow!!!!! after it, not just in this thread, but in the exact same way in a new thread he created.
Any thoughts?
Nah, areyouseeingthis apparently is a new member. I have been around since 2009. I was reacting as a shocked fan that the poster really gave a detailed review and how lucky for him/her to have watch it. A reflex action, I would say. But the last few moments of the review is doubtful, to say the least.
Yeah didn't mean to accuse you of anything - just looked funny. Glad to clear this up.
Quote from: Qwertify on May 14, 2012, 11:42:38 PM
Quote from: cossack0909 on May 14, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
Quote from: Qwertify on May 14, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: cossack0909 on May 14, 2012, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: areyouseeingthis on May 14, 2012, 03:06:42 AM
Hello after searching online to discuss prometheus i found this fan site. I along with others who sent comments via facebooks 'areyouseeingthis' were invited to see a special screening of Prometheus in London. I sent a facebook message on it how amazing the trailer looked and how I'm not a scifi fan but this has hyped me up for the film. I got a PM via email from 20th century fox who invited me to see the film. I didn't have to pay for ticket but i did have to pay the £67 in travelling expenses.
If you find this a too big a spoiler then delete it if you must. But I'll give you a review of the film. I dont know how to activate a spoiler black out though so any help from moderators would be nice :)
So here's my review of the film
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could it be that cossack and areyouseeingthis are the same user?
areyouseeingthis posts a fake review of a "screening" he never actually saw.
Then Cossack posts wow!!!!! after it, not just in this thread, but in the exact same way in a new thread he created.
Any thoughts?
Nah, areyouseeingthis apparently is a new member. I have been around since 2009. I was reacting as a shocked fan that the poster really gave a detailed review and how lucky for him/her to have watch it. A reflex action, I would say. But the last few moments of the review is doubtful, to say the least.
Yeah didn't mean to accuse you of anything - just looked funny. Glad to clear this up.
No sweat,mate. I was actually sweating when reading the review. Could it be true? It seems so...honest. After nearly 20 times of reading it, the last few moments seems ......not right.
fuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Got confirmation!
I'm seeing PROMETHEUS in 3D monday the 28th ^^
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Hello after searching online to discuss prometheus i found this fan site. I along with others who sent comments via facebooks 'areyouseeingthis' were invited to see a special screening of Prometheus in London. I sent a facebook message on it how amazing the trailer looked and how I'm not a scifi fan but this has hyped me up for the film. I got a PM via email from 20th century fox who invited me to see the film. I didn't have to pay for ticket but i did have to pay the £67 in travelling expenses.
If you find this a too big a spoiler then delete it if you must. But I'll give you a review of the film. I dont know how to activate a spoiler black out though so any help from moderators would be nice :)
So here's my review of the film
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could it be that cossack and areyouseeingthis are the same user?
areyouseeingthis posts a fake review of a "screening" he never actually saw.
Then Cossack posts wow!!!!! after it, not just in this thread, but in the exact same way in a new thread he created.
Any thoughts?
Nah, areyouseeingthis apparently is a new member. I have been around since 2009. I was reacting as a shocked fan that the poster really gave a detailed review and how lucky for him/her to have watch it. A reflex action, I would say. But the last few moments of the review is doubtful, to say the least.
Yeah didn't mean to accuse you of anything - just looked funny. Glad to clear this up.
No sweat,mate. I was actually sweating when reading the review. Could it be true? It seems so...honest. After nearly 20 times of reading it, the last few moments seems ......not right.
some things are fishy... I just don't see
Spoiler
the jockeys being "just" androids... I just don't see that... and then the Xenos being our creators?! It doesn't seem right and not at all intact with the lore... why would xenos create jockeys and why then again would jockeys experiment with humans... it just seems so random
and what about shaw giving birth to this thing and then just killing it moments after. You want to tell me this thing was just pushed into the film to be slaughtered?! If that is the case: What were you thinking Sir Scott? Too much lost Lindelof influence?!
and: "the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something."
What is that "Something"?! It never reapears? Again, very doubtful...
However it seems really really detailed and some parts just sound too good to be invented (unlike that fake script).
I'm still cautious... some thing still just don't make sense... but I must say, there's a lot going for this review to be correct!
Quote from: NGR01 on May 17, 2012, 08:08:00 PM
fuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Got confirmation!
I'm seeing PROMETHEUS in 3D monday the 28th ^^
You,my friend, are one lucky fan.
This sceams fake.
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head?? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
Besides the movie has not even came out, it's way to early for 100% true reviews.
wow someone spent a small amount of time to write such a BS-tastic review.
no oral rape by snake thing is the biggest omission, that's a signature scene and it's not mentioned at all
Quote from: Deuterium on May 14, 2012, 08:41:54 PM
Why a "second" derelict. Couldn't we be viewing the converging terminal ends of the derelict's "claws", in the background?
Yes it is
Quote from: areyouseeingthis on May 14, 2012, 03:06:42 AM
Hello after searching online to discuss prometheus i found this fan site. I along with others who sent comments via facebooks 'areyouseeingthis' were invited to see a special screening of Prometheus in London. I sent a facebook message on it how amazing the trailer looked and how I'm not a scifi fan but this has hyped me up for the film. I got a PM via email from 20th century fox who invited me to see the film. I didn't have to pay for ticket but i did have to pay the £67 in travelling expenses.
If you find this a too big a spoiler then delete it if you must. But I'll give you a review of the film. I dont know how to activate a spoiler black out though so any help from moderators would be nice :)
So here's my review of the film
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
That sounds very fake, the movie is not even out yet so we have to wait for true reviews.
Stop wasting your time on that fake shit guys :)
Quote from: areyouseeingthis on May 14, 2012, 03:06:42 AM
Hello after searching online to discuss prometheus i found this fan site. I along with others who sent comments via facebooks 'areyouseeingthis' were invited to see a special screening of Prometheus in London. I sent a facebook message on it how amazing the trailer looked and how I'm not a scifi fan but this has hyped me up for the film. I got a PM via email from 20th century fox who invited me to see the film. I didn't have to pay for ticket but i did have to pay the £67 in travelling expenses.
If you find this a too big a spoiler then delete it if you must. But I'll give you a review of the film. I dont know how to activate a spoiler black out though so any help from moderators would be nice :)
So here's my review of the film
Spoiler
The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth'
and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C.
Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it.
We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall.
After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside.
These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood.
We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change.
These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.
We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes.
We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.
We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving.
We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere.
That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside.
He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me.
She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.
After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi)
We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing.
It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map.
They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone. Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off.
As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing.
As they head back to the ship a storm hits them.
After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it.
Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power.
It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO.
She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything.
The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.
Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck.
It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside.
After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods.
David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about.
the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things.
the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out.
Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.
David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.
After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down.
back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.
Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes. The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now.
lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw.
In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman. David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.
on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else.
shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.
They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years.
They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't.
The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls .
Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less.
Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off.
She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her.
In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep.
Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene. Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world.
It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.
Well after watching all of the videos, trailers, tv spots etc. this seems to be pretty real. really good fake story or legit movie plot.
Quote from: Bigticket on May 18, 2012, 02:50:08 PMWell after watching all of the videos, trailers, tv spots etc. this seems to be pretty real. really good fake story or legit movie plot.
Read it again and then post about its authenticity. If you still think it is legitimate you are either drunk or the dude who wrote it. :P