http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=4937
"Hmmm...intensity, a solid story, an obvious hard R rating and the long-awaited appearance of a Pred-Alien... So far, so good. But what about the worry that everything that's cool about the new film has already been shown or suggested in that coming attraction? Strause puts those concerns to rest: "Not true. There's lots of stuff still unseen—complete scenes that are not in the trailer." Then he lets loose the juiciest of tidbits: "A new world perhaps...""
I dont think I'd mind. Its not like it'll f**k with the continuty or anything....Preds can still keep their mystery if done right...
I highly doubt were seeing the Alien planet...or we may not even see a Alien or Predator planet, but some random one....who knows. But it seems like the most logical idea...
Could just be wherever the ship is coming from. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the Pred planet.
From another topic:
Quote"A new world perhaps..."
Pffft, looks like we're going to be seeing the Predator's planet. I can't really see the Aliens fitting into this. f**k sake, just when I thought Predators couldn't become any more demystyified.
f**k.
*Goes off to watch Predator*
Pretty easy to see my feelings on the matter. :-\
I dont see how? It could be like Concrete Jungle...yanno, just a snippit. I dont think they'll show EVERY single detail, just a small pass...
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 10, 2007, 09:48:45 PM
Could just be wherever the ship is coming from. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the Pred planet.
I hope this does actually happen. Seeing the Wolf returing to his ship from a hunt on a distant world to receive the distress call.
I can see it now:
Wolf: Why do you need me?
Celtic: 'Cause some damn fool accused you of being the best!
Wolf: Celtic! You son of a bitch!
Or...not....
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 09:52:51 PM
QuoteRecently, Greg attended a Fango Weekend of Horrors convention, where he confirmed that a "crossbreed" or hybrid creature indeed appears in the film and, in fact, plays a pretty major role in the storytelling. "She's in the trailer: the Pred-Alien," Strause explains. "Her nickname is Chet, but that's our inside joke. It's not an official name."
WTF!!!! "SHE" its a fu**ing queen predalien... :'( :'( :'(
Have their planets ever been shown or described in any of the comics and novels?
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 09:54:12 PM
Have their planets ever been shown or described in any of the comics and novels?
In the CJ predator game I think...
Comics and novels, yes.
Original ALIEN script, LV-426 was the Alien's home planet.
Ain't no way they can do it right. Part of what makes these things awesome is that you don't know everything, and where they come from is the LEAST important thing you could want to know. It's totally irrelevant to the stories or the character.
Sorry for you guys but i love the words he said! ;D especially liked the words of scenes not shown in the trailer
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 09:54:12 PM
Have their planets ever been shown or described in any of the comics and novels?
Don't think so. Though they went with the nomad angle in the comics and novels.
Quote from: CelticP on Sep 10, 2007, 09:55:52 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 09:54:12 PM
Have their planets ever been shown or described in any of the comics and novels?
In the CJ predator game I think...
The Predator homeworld?
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 09:53:56 PMWTF!!!! "SHE" its a fu**ing queen predalien... :'( :'( :'(
If you go by the ant hive mindset, they're all probably female. I'm not saying the Predalien isn't a Queen, just putting it out there.
Quote from: CelticP on Sep 10, 2007, 09:55:52 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 09:54:12 PM
Have their planets ever been shown or described in any of the comics and novels?
In the CJ predator game I think...
I dont think the Elder would of exiled Scarface to their homeworld.
One comic had the Predator's homeworld as Earth.
Besides which, why is it official we'd be seeing the PREDATOR's world? Dun dun dun.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 09:56:56 PM
Comics and novels, yes.
Original ALIEN script, LV-426 was the Alien's home planet.
Ain't no way they can do it right. Part of what makes these things awesome is that you don't know everything, and where they come from is the LEAST important thing you could want to know. It's totally irrelevant to the stories or the character.
Too damn right. I don't think there's any hope for Predators now.
1st They are gods in AVP. Then they are teenagers. Then they canoodle with humans. Then they become f**king superheroes in AVP2 and now were probably going to see thier homeworld.
:'(
I cherish the days when all I knew about the Predator was that it was an Alien that hunted humans. Too bad they are long gone...
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 09:56:56 PM
Comics and novels, yes.
Original ALIEN script, LV-426 was the Alien's home planet.
The Aliens on LV-426 were "not indigioness".
In the DVD commentary, Ridley Scott says he wants to show the Alien homeworld when he makes Alien 5 or 6.
Amen, brotha (Aeus).
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:04:45 PM
The Aliens on LV-426 were "not indigioness".
Please pay close attention.
Original script.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 10:01:47 PM
One comic had the Predator's homeworld as Earth.
Besides which, why is it official we'd be seeing the PREDATOR's world? Dun dun dun.
I'm beggining to assume to worst with this movie.
Awesome news!!!
I think we're in for a ride guys!!!
I wouldn't be a bad idea...But I like what the one poster suggested; that they show 'Wolf' coming from another planet to go to Earth.
But I guess the Predator home world will be full with something like those pyrimads in AvP.
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:04:45 PMThe Aliens on LV-426 were "not indigioness".
In the DVD commentary, Ridley Scott says he wants to show the Alien homeworld when he makes Alien 5 or 6.
Might want to use spellcheck...anyways, that's what Ridley says. O'Bannon, the scriptwriter, says otherwise. Considering we're talking about original intention, I wouldn't invest much into Ridley's comments considering he may never direct another Alien film for all we know.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 10:06:36 PM
Amen, brotha (Aeus).
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:04:45 PM
The Aliens on LV-426 were "not indigioness".
Please pay close attention. Original script.
Yea, I saw it the first time.
Aeus it won't be that bad ;) Isn't it a bit stupid to think that everything will be revealed in a scene of probably 10 minutes or a lot less...
The homeworld itself can be very mystifying(sp?) too
F.E. Lv-426 we saw that planet/moon and the crew left it with the viewers knowing nothing about it
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:10:57 PM
Yea, I saw it the first time.
And yet you didn't bother to acknowledge it.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:10:57 PM
Yea, I saw it the first time.
And yet you didn't bother to acknowledge it.
Becouse the idea was scrapped so its irrelevant.
I say its official, because A: What other planet will they go to? Cant do Alien...cuz, we dont know where THEY come from...and B: OFFICIAL brings in more people.... ;)
It's probably just another planet where Wolf is engaging in an hunt. Might be fun to see another creature.
Quote from: azerty on Sep 10, 2007, 10:12:42 PM
Aeus it won't be that bad ;) Isn't it a bit stupid to think that everything will be revealed in a scene of probably 10 minutes or a lot less...
The homeworld itself can be very mystifying(sp?) too
F.E. Lv-426 we saw that planet/moon and the crew left it with the viewers knowing nothing about it
Predator's are extemely similar to humans. They more we learn about them, they more human and the less frightening they become. Seeing thier homeworld? f**k. We might aswell have Predator 3 depict Predator's playing poker with thier human buddies.
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:14:42 PM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:10:57 PM
Yea, I saw it the first time.
And yet you didn't bother to acknowledge it.
Becouse the idea was scrapped so its irrelevant.
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Quote from: CelticP on Sep 10, 2007, 10:15:07 PM
Cant do Alien...cuz, we dont know where THEY come from...
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Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:14:42 PM
Becouse the idea was scrapped so its irrelevant.
How does that make the comment that it was the Alien's home world in the original script invalid? And no, the idea was never really scrapped. We still don't know where they came from.
K.
SiL's right. The door is still open until the movies either acknowledge O'Bannon's original intention (hopefully) or come up with an alternate background. Thus, that origin is far from scrapped.
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 10, 2007, 10:21:08 PM
SiL's right. The door is still open until the movies either acknowledge O'Bannon's original intention (hopefully) or come up with an alternate background. Thus, that origin is far from scrapped.
Corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrect!
Meh, I wouldnt have an issue seeing PredPlanet.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 10:18:48 PM
Quote from: CelticP on Sep 10, 2007, 10:15:07 PM
Cant do Alien...cuz, we dont know where THEY come from...
...
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:14:42 PM
Becouse the idea was scrapped so its irrelevant.
QuoteHow does that make the comment that it was the Alien's home world in the original script invalid? And no, the idea was never really scrapped. We still don't know where they came from.
Well, we know they didnt come from LV-426.
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:23:08 PM
Well, we know they didnt come from LV-426.
No we don't. Nothing we hear from the executives contradicts the original plan, and Ripley never even set foot on the planet - How would she know whether or not the Aliens were from there?
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:23:08 PM
Well, we know they didnt come from LV-426.
No we don't. Nothing we hear from the executives contradicts the original plan, and Ripley never even set foot on the planet - How would she know whether or not the Aliens were from there?
Yea you're right. She could of been wrong. She had no way of knowing for sure.
The WHOLE planet could have had a city, and whatnot...just either hidden, or, far out there...we dont know...
Quote from: CelticP on Sep 10, 2007, 10:22:56 PM
Meh, I wouldnt have an issue seeing PredPlanet.
Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.
I think just seeing a ship come to earth and leave an Alien in the jungle killing folks works. Why fix something that ain't broke?
The reason it worked is because the audiance is just as clueless as to the idenitity of this assailant as the Solidiers are. Seeing there homeworld takes this, shits on it, and throws it out of the f**king window.
The mystery = gone.
I dunno, I've had this image of the Wolf, sitting in a darkish room, when an alarm goes off, he gets his gear, and goes....or something to that extent....
I bet we'll end up seeing a jungle or something. Nothing drastic.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=37113
God, I hope we dont see Predators shopping and shit like that. :o
HA! I told ya! :D
What do I win!?
Gregg sure got the hype machine up and running. What's the chance he was just joking :D
That all said and done, I guess now is the time to reveal that we found out about the possibility of the Alien or Predator homeworlds showing up several months ago. However, as far as we know the idea was scrapped due to budgetary reasons. I guess the extra pennies Fox cashed out where for the homeworld.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1189492841&archive=
Well, it sounds like this film, whether good or bad, will be very interesting. More so than AVP.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 10, 2007, 10:23:08 PM
Well, we know they didnt come from LV-426.
No we don't. Nothing we hear from the executives contradicts the original plan, and Ripley never even set foot on the planet - How would she know whether or not the Aliens were from there?
Hmm... both Alien and Aliens contradict the original plan. If it wasn't obvious enough that the derelict had crashed on LV-426, a dialogue exchange in Aliens spells it out for you.
Alien Resurrection impliciting contradicts the notion as well... so we do know that Acheron isn't their homeworld.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 10:41:27 PM
That all said and done, I guess now is the time to reveal that we found out about the possibility of the Alien or Predator homeworlds showing up several months ago. However, as far as we know the idea was scrapped due to budgetary reasons. I guess the extra pennies Fox cashed out where for the homeworld.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1189492841&archive=
:'(
Goodbye Predator fanchise. Goodbye everything I loved about you.
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Hello Alien fanchise! ;D ;D ;D
...We don't seriously think we're gonna have massive sprawling cities full of Predators do we?
Quote from: redxavier on Sep 10, 2007, 10:46:24 PM
If it wasn't obvious enough that the derelict had crashed on LV-426,
It isn't, because it didn't.
Quotea dialogue exchange in Aliens spells it out for you.
By people who'd never set foot on the planet, or at least not until well after a cataclysm wiped out all life on the planet. What they said doesn't contradict that the planet was their homeworld, and that the planet died leaving only eggs, which the Jockeys found and loaded onto their ship.
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 10, 2007, 09:48:45 PM
Could just be wherever the ship is coming from. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the Pred planet.
I hope this does actually happen. Seeing the Wolf returing to his ship from a hunt on a distant world to receive the distress call.
I can see it now:
Wolf: Why do you need me?
Celtic: 'Cause some damn fool accused you of being the best!
Wolf: Celtic! You son of a bitch!
Hahaha, and thats how it should be, Celtic! You Son of a Bitch.
Big Sprawling ancient cities full of Predators
HELLS YEAH!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 10:50:24 PM
...We don't seriously think we're gonna have massive sprawling cities full of Predators do we?
I don't know what to think. After AVP, I don't how much piss Fox is willing to spray on the Predator fanchise.
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 10:50:24 PM
...We don't seriously think we're gonna have massive sprawling cities full of Predators do we?
I don't know what to think. After AVP, I don't how much piss Fox is willing to spray on the Predator fanchise.
I'm willing to bet that it's nothing other than a vast swamp/jungle we see with some funky alien plants or something.
I'm not worried because the budget isn't big enough to show a 10 minute clip of the ins and outs of the Predator planet. It will probably be just a glimpse.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 10:50:24 PM
...We don't seriously think we're gonna have massive sprawling cities full of Predators do we?
I don't know what to think. After AVP, I don't how much piss Fox is willing to spray on the Predator fanchise.
I'm willing to bet that it's nothing other than a vast swamp/jungle we see with some funky alien plants or something.
I'm trying to be depressed! Stop making me feel better with your optimism! :P
It's not. It's just reasonable.
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 10:54:49 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 10:50:24 PM
...We don't seriously think we're gonna have massive sprawling cities full of Predators do we?
I don't know what to think. After AVP, I don't how much piss Fox is willing to spray on the Predator fanchise.
I'm willing to bet that it's nothing other than a vast swamp/jungle we see with some funky alien plants or something.
I'm trying to be depressed! Stop making me feel better with your optimism! :P
They also have only 3 ALIENS in the film! THEY ALL DIE!!1111 DOES THAT MAKE YOU DEPRESSEDEDER???
Quote from: CelticP on Sep 10, 2007, 10:56:17 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 10:54:49 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 10:50:24 PM
...We don't seriously think we're gonna have massive sprawling cities full of Predators do we?
I don't know what to think. After AVP, I don't how much piss Fox is willing to spray on the Predator fanchise.
I'm willing to bet that it's nothing other than a vast swamp/jungle we see with some funky alien plants or something.
I'm trying to be depressed! Stop making me feel better with your optimism! :P
They also have only 3 ALIENS in the film! THEY ALL DIE!!1111 DOES THAT MAKE YOU DEPRESSEDEDER???
Yah, 'cause they'll all die at the hands of the SuperWolf.
NO BY MOLLY AND POLLY! THE 2 TEENAGE SISTERS!!!
Quote from: CelticP on Sep 10, 2007, 10:59:25 PM
NO BY MOLLY AND POLLY! THE 2 TEENAGE SISTERS!!!
YOU IS MAKESING IT WORSERER!!!
I can just imagine it now. Wolf is in bed with his wife. The pred-phone rings. Wolf gets up and his wife asks, "Were you going, baby?" Wolf says, "To work." (insert dramatic look at the camera) We then cut to Wolf gearing up, ready to do what he does best!
Okay girls, behave now.
UR 2 DEPREZED!!!! U NEED TO LEIK TEH WULF MORE!!!
*ducks as darkness swoops in and gets all mad for jokin around ;)*
Hicks is getting mad first. No more past this mark. Or I get mad.
WOULD BE A DREAM COME TRUE FOR THIS PRED-FAN PLEASE LET IT BE SO!!!!!!!!!!
Seeing the homeworld would be fantastic.
Strause brothers you rock!!!!
This is starting to sound like starwars, showing the pred world isnt a good idea in my opinion, why the need to show that? what are they going to show?
an elder in a desk deciding who to send to clean this alien mess???? wtf!! :-\
i dont like this news... :(
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 11:01:23 PM
Okay girls, behave now.
*Batts eyelashes suggestively*
But seriously, the Predator homeworld idea is shit. I can't beleive we all can't see this. This isn't Stargate (no to diss Stargate, that rocks)!!!
I'm sticking with my guns. Jungle and swamps and it's cool. Cities and space ports and it sucks.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2007, 11:02:46 PM
Hicks is getting mad first. No more past this mark. Or I get mad.
Oh pishaw Mr Hulk... ;D
I always pictured a redish planet with mountains....I dunno why... :-\
even bad ideas can rock if done right
QuoteThis is starting to sound like starwars, showing the pred world isnt a good idea in my opinion, why the need to show that? what are they going to show?
To make it more interesting and exciting maybe??
A true pred-fan would be delighted by this news as am i.
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:06:41 PM
QuoteThis is starting to sound like starwars, showing the pred world isnt a good idea in my opinion, why the need to show that? what are they going to show?
To make it more interesting and exciting maybe??
A true pred-fan would be delighted by this news as am i.
Well im a true predator fan and i dont like the idea.
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:08:08 PM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:06:41 PM
QuoteThis is starting to sound like starwars, showing the pred world isnt a good idea in my opinion, why the need to show that? what are they going to show?
To make it more interesting and exciting maybe??
A true pred-fan would be delighted by this news as am i.
Well im a true predator fan and i dont like the idea.
;D
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:08:08 PM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:06:41 PM
QuoteThis is starting to sound like starwars, showing the pred world isnt a good idea in my opinion, why the need to show that? what are they going to show?
To make it more interesting and exciting maybe??
A true pred-fan would be delighted by this news as am i.
Well im a true predator fan and i dont like the idea.
you don't like the idea but that doesn't mean it won't turn out good, i think this could be a good addition to the movie and will defantaly not be big part of it
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 10, 2007, 11:06:05 PM
even bad ideas can rock if done right
Whats bad about it? Best thing that i have heard about this movie. Ever since i was a kid i dreamed about seeing the homeworld.
could be something good, or it will make canon a horrible idea, making our nightmares true. we`ll have to wait and see...
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 10, 2007, 11:01:18 PM
I can just imagine it now. Wolf is in bed with his wife. The pred-phone rings. Wolf gets up and his wife asks, "Were you going, baby?" Wolf says, "To work." (insert dramatic look at the camera) We then cut to Wolf gearing up, ready to do what he does best!
Omg, you better be wrong. How many times have we seen this in other movies? PA would of done some cheesy shit like that if he had the chance. It'll probobly just show Wolf by himself in some type of jungle.
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:08:08 PM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:06:41 PM
QuoteThis is starting to sound like starwars, showing the pred world isnt a good idea in my opinion, why the need to show that? what are they going to show?
To make it more interesting and exciting maybe??
A true pred-fan would be delighted by this news as am i.
Well im a true predator fan and i dont like the idea.
Doubt it if you are not interested in expanding your knowledge about our intergalactic hunter anti-hero.
::)
There are some things that are better to remain unexplained...
Does this mean we get to see a female predator on the homeworld??? I don't know if that would be worth exploring!
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:13:08 PM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:08:08 PM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:06:41 PM
QuoteThis is starting to sound like starwars, showing the pred world isnt a good idea in my opinion, why the need to show that? what are they going to show?
To make it more interesting and exciting maybe??
A true pred-fan would be delighted by this news as am i.
Well im a true predator fan and i dont like the idea.
Doubt it if you are not interested in expanding your knowledge about our intergalactic hunter anti-hero.
::)
There are some things that are better to remain unexplained...
What if it was done in a exciting way, would you like it then?
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:13:08 PM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:08:08 PM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:06:41 PM
QuoteThis is starting to sound like starwars, showing the pred world isnt a good idea in my opinion, why the need to show that? what are they going to show?
To make it more interesting and exciting maybe??
A true pred-fan would be delighted by this news as am i.
Well im a true predator fan and i dont like the idea.
Doubt it if you are not interested in expanding your knowledge about our intergalactic hunter anti-hero.
::)
There are some things that are better to remain unexplained...
;D ;D ;D
Quoteanti-hero
And you call yourself a fan...
im sure it could be done well, but i dont want to see it.
I think we'll get the Wolf getting his assignment/coming home if it's the Predator Homwworld we might get a flashback, possibly showing the aliens infesting an planet and last but not least see why our wonderful pred ship crashes
Quoteanti-hero
And you call yourself a fan...
Anti-heros are usually more interesting, why couldn,t you be a fan? The pred never was or will be a hero nor was he intended to be one.
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:16:46 PM
im sure it could be done well, but i dont want to see it.
Close your eyes in the theatre and use the remote at home ;D
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:20:10 PM
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:16:46 PM
im sure it could be done well, but i dont want to see it.
Close your eyes in the theatre and use the remote at home ;D
hahahah i was going to post exactly that :D
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:21:50 PM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:20:10 PM
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:16:46 PM
im sure it could be done well, but i dont want to see it.
Close your eyes in the theatre and use the remote at home ;D
hahahah i was going to post exactly that :D
good no more complaining...could it be good for you? is there somethign that makes u hate the idea or u just hate it
Awesome, i can't wailt to see the homeworld of the perdators ;D! This movie keeps on geting awesome.
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 10, 2007, 11:23:14 PM
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Quote from: mightydreadlock on Sep 10, 2007, 11:20:10 PM
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:16:46 PM
im sure it could be done well, but i dont want to see it.
Close your eyes in the theatre and use the remote at home ;D
hahahah i was going to post exactly that :D
good no more complaining...could it be good for you? is there somethign that makes u hate the idea or u just hate it
As i said, some things are better to not being explained...i mean, showing his world would humanize him a little, and i dont want that, i dont want to see if they live in tents, pyramids, or caves.
well not really humanizing them...you see how aliens live and that made them less human and i doubt they all live the same way...some people live in tents on Earth, others stone, modern
Aeus?
Yeah because after 4 movies, we should just know that they
A) come from space
B) Kill stuff
Because thats really fleshing out the predator. I have an idea for another predator movie, its set on Earth he comes down to kill , blah blah blah ::)
Remember what happened to Aliens.....yeah lets not go there, lets make A3 and AR cause they are cool ideas!
Showing the predator homeworld suits me fine, sign me up.
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 10, 2007, 11:29:53 PM
well not really humanizing them...you see how aliens live and that made them less human and i doubt they all live the same way...some people live in tents on Earth, others stone, modern
A hive is not a homeworld. Diferent things.
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:33:29 PM
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 10, 2007, 11:29:53 PM
well not really humanizing them...you see how aliens live and that made them less human and i doubt they all live the same way...some people live in tents on Earth, others stone, modern
A hive is not a homeworld. Diferent things.
true...but it tells you the basics...
Yeah I just want to see like jungle or even a desert with some alien animals... go into infared... then in the next shot you see the animal up close, and a spear just goes through its head. Then I hope you get some idea as to why the ship crashed...
The comic books actually do show some tidbits of the predator homeworld. The comic that came with the unrated edition of the first avp has some of that. Also its been speculated that it a planet with lots of indigenous life, and lots of humid jungles. I doubt they live in caves. Consideringt the interior design of their ships. They most likely live in very temple-looking structures and entirely clans probably dwell together in such structures.
However i don't think that's what we'll see in this film. I Think we might just see wolf's ship taking off from the surface of the planet and then subsequently seeing it in orbit from space.
Personally, I'd prefer if the predators didn't have a homeworld anymore, being a nomadic species that wanders the stars in small tribal groups, meeting with each other sometimes for social reasons, trading news, building ships and weapons, or just killing each other.
But if we are going to see a homeworld, I don't want it to be too human, if you know what I mean. I don't want to see a big predator metropolis filled with predator civilians, politicians, civil service, etc. It just doesn't feel right. I want their world to be a different, alien, and hostile place, something structured differently from human civilization.
That's all.
I don't know what to think about this whole Predator Homeworld thing don't really like it but if done right I'll be ok with it, depends we'll see.
i think really the Predators need to expand some...honestly we haven't gotten anything new from them for a while..no to muhc but a little, in Aliens the aliens got a hive and queen, A3 runner, A4 newborn (meh) Predators haven't gotten that much so a homeworld might be a good way to expand them, and it doesn't have to be a homeworld jsut a predator settlement where a clan is nothign that amazing
From what I keep hearing about this movie, they might as well call it
PREDATOR 3
featuring some aliens
Predator 3: Aliens vs. Predator :( :-\
Do any of you guys honestly believe we're going to see a Predator metropolis with flying cars and shit? Even PA wouldn't do something like that! It will probably just be a taste. Like, "Look! This is the planet!" Show the Predator take off of said planet. Ok, back to the story.
well then you haven't watched the Trailer i have a feeling the Aliens will have more screen time...
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Sep 10, 2007, 11:39:48 PM
From what I keep hearing about this movie, they might as well call it
PREDATOR 3
featuring some aliens
If it,s not the alien homeworld we are going to see. The preds homeworld got me very excited but who sais they ment the preds homeworld, could be allot of stuff.
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 10, 2007, 11:42:42 PM
well then you haven't watched the Trailer i have a feeling the Aliens will have more screen time...
I don't know one Predator vs. Alien
S seems uneven even the Predators get a Homeworld and Aliens don't.
No, the aliens won't get more screen time. Whenever you have Aliens and Predators together, the Predator will get more screen time. That creature is the more human of the 2, so we relate to him more. Colin said we are going to follow him around a bit anyway. However, the Aliens will be the bigger threat to the humans I think.
But of course it's going to feel like a Predator movie with xenos added. It takes place on Earth in the modern day among human settlements. That's a Predator setting.
If we instead set this movie in the future with the colonial marines and such, it would feel like Aliens: Plus a Predator.
The planet's environment will probobly be similar to the inside of the the Predator ship in P2. I wouldnt mind seeing that.
Seems that this movie will have lots of surprises.
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:48:56 PM
Seems that this movie will have lots of surprises.
But will any of them have anything to do with the aliens or anything else, so far its been predator this and that, don't get me wrong I like the predators as much as aliens but were is the balance?
Quote from: James OCanis on Sep 10, 2007, 11:45:46 PM
But of course it's going to feel like a Predator movie with xenos added. It takes place on Earth in the modern day among human settlements. That's a Predator setting.
If we instead set this movie in the future with the colonial marines and such, it would feel like Aliens: Plus a Predator.
Most people want to see colonial marines and a space setting but then it would Alien 5 and some Predators, even the Aliens vs. Predator games for the PC were the movie
Aliens with Predators, I'm not saying its bad its a super good game but thats what it was.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Sep 10, 2007, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:48:56 PM
Seems that this movie will have lots of surprises.
But will any of them have anything to do with the aliens or anything else, so far its been predator this and that, don't get me wrong I like the predators as much as aliens but were is the balance?
Yes you are right...im both creatures fan, and i want balance, but i dont see balance yet...maybe the Wolf uses his medikit a lot lol :P
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:48:56 PM
maybe the Wolf uses his medikit a lot lol :P
That I want to see, I enjoy those scenes, they always have new toys to heal themselves with :)
following him doesn't mean he will be in the movie more, the aliens are there first for one they are the bigger threat they are infesting a town for crying out loud they wil defantly get alot of screen time
Aliens checklist: cause crash, land, spread, get hosts, kill people, fight miltary, fight Wolf, Predalien, hive
Predator checklist: kill aliens, some humans, kill predalien, kill people in his way, skin some guy
I think the reason people want AVP to be in the future is because:
1) We don't want to see Aliens on present day earth
2) Future space would be a new setting to see the Predator in
It just melds the 2 worlds together better than the present day angle does. But that's all were getting.
Aliens do kill more people so they get good enough screen time.
I've said it before and I'll say it again
Its all about execution
bad and uninteresting, even cliched ideas can seems very amazing, cool, imaginative, and original if executed properly.
I seriously doubt we will be seeing what most of you fear, like a socail predator society, with jobs, and what not, predators socializing, walking amongst huge cities, and etc.
if anything, it will have ancient structures on it, akin to the look of the P2 ship, we won't see predators strutting around, entering their houses or anything like that, that would be too proposterous.
if anything, the planet is very jungle-y, and humid, very hot, and there are some P2 esque building structures, but no houses, predators are like nomads, they probably live in their own ship.
I don't want it to be like futuristic sci-fi, I want it to feel very primitive, but still have the ancient feeling, although advanced, technology of the predators integrated in.
I have a feeling it won't be pulled off terribly, it could work really well.
its all about execution.
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 10, 2007, 11:56:26 PM
I think the reason people want AVP to be in the future is because:
1) We don't want to see Aliens on present day earth
2) Future space would be a new setting to see the Predator in
It just melds the 2 worlds together better than the present day angle does. But that's all were getting.
well i've said this before...i'm happy AVP 1&2 are on Earth because when AVP 3 is in space like the Bros hope it'll be really great and if we had started in space we probally would never get one on Earth at all
2 on earth for the Predator, next movies hopefully in space for Aliens.
Quote from: Pred-Wolf on Sep 11, 2007, 12:01:28 AM
2 on earth for the Predator, next movies hopefully in space for Aliens.
perfectly fair and a good way to balance
Honestly, if I could trade in the 2 Earth bound AVP films for 1 amazing space bound AVP film, I would.
Quote from: Pred-Wolf on Sep 11, 2007, 12:01:28 AM
2 on earth for the Predator, next movies hopefully in space for Aliens.
It be badass if Wolf survives AVP-R and becomes a predator elder in AVP3. But I think he's as good as dead.
it wold be a new idea...and it could be cool have an elder with his helmet
They should bring back the elder from P2, he was a badass. He even knew some English.
who's to say he wasen't the AVP one
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 11, 2007, 12:09:30 AM
who's to say he wasen't the AVP one
LOL wasn't it confermed by someone that the AvP preds were anothe clan or something to that nature. I hope to god that they are not the same pred that would be a tragedy. Elder from P2 I think was the coolest looking pred in all the movies.
confermed i don't think so impiled maybe
the look, amount of armor, body build, and style of ship and weaponry were very different between the AVP clan at the end, and the P2 clan at the end.
but yes, I would love to see the Elder from P2 come back for another film, oh how almighty that would be.
Quote from: Docta Jekyll on Sep 11, 2007, 12:22:00 AM
the look, amount of armor, body build, and style of ship and weaponry were very different between the AVP clan at the end, and the P2 clan at the end.
but yes, I would love to see the Elder from P2 come back for another film, oh how almighty that would be.
it would be hard to tell..unless he had that sword...or some other way
Quote from: Docta Jekyll on Sep 11, 2007, 12:22:00 AM
the look, amount of armor, body build, and style of ship and weaponry were very different between the AVP clan at the end, and the P2 clan at the end.
but yes, I would love to see the Elder from P2 come back for another film, oh how almighty that would be.
Yea, but Stan Winston Studios would have to come back for that. I wish they would. ADI could possibly re-create him but that would be asking a lot.
but yes, I would love to see the Elder from P2 come back for another film, oh how almighty that would be.
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it would be hard to tell..unless he had that sword...or some other way
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I hated that damn cape he was wearing in AVP, that could set the two Elders apart.
i liked the cape...and maybe they could both be in it?
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 11, 2007, 12:29:15 AM
i liked the cape...and maybe they could both be in it?
Now thats an interesting idea. Would be very intreging to see two elders from two different clans in one film. I wonder how that would go down. Possible idea for AVP3.
Clan fight cause alien outbreak? who knows possbile both of them give assignment
How old was the elder from P2, it looked like it was going to kick the bucket any minuet :P
Predator 3: clan wars ;D
clan wars over Earth terratory of rouge pred
Maybe the clan war, or full blown predator and human war, should be set before Alien resurrection on Earth, that would explain why earth was destroyed and messed up at the end of the movie on the special edition DVD of A:R
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Sep 11, 2007, 12:44:06 AM
Maybe the clan war, or full blown predator and human war, should be set before Alien resurrection on Earth, that would explain why earth was destroyed and messed up at the end of the movie on the special edition DVD of A:R
i like that idea i think it could be done well i think that would be risky thoguht
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 11, 2007, 12:45:47 AM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Sep 11, 2007, 12:44:06 AM
Maybe the clan war, or full blown predator and human war, should be set before Alien resurrection on Earth, that would explain why earth was destroyed and messed up at the end of the movie on the special edition DVD of A:R
i like that idea i think it could be done well i think that would be risky thoguht
Or it could be the ultimate AVP battle of all time?
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Sep 11, 2007, 12:55:20 AM
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 11, 2007, 12:45:47 AM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Sep 11, 2007, 12:44:06 AM
Maybe the clan war, or full blown predator and human war, should be set before Alien resurrection on Earth, that would explain why earth was destroyed and messed up at the end of the movie on the special edition DVD of A:R
i like that idea i think it could be done well i think that would be risky thoguht
Or it could be the ultimate AVP battle of all time?
that in itsefl is risky but the AR wasteland that is Earth does need and explanation and it could be done
Could be a get idea. An all out war between clans and swarms and swarms of aliens.
Good ideas if done awesome
P3: clan war
A5: hive war
AVP3: all out war
Maybe these films could lead up to the ultimate battle which determines the fate of the Earth?
That would be nice, Predator 3 i say needs to come out before AVP 3 just beacuse having more crossover films than standalone isen't right..
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Sep 11, 2007, 01:04:29 AM
Good ideas if done awesome
P3: clan war
A5: hive war
AVP3: all out war
War movies only work if you have a good human story like Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket or even Aliens..
there are so many possibilities, I'd rather see AVP3 then P3 for the simple reason that more could be done in terms of action and story. But P3 could take place in Iraq or somethin that would be cool.
i would love to see pred 3 set in like world war 2. in the trenches, or just flash backs of gladiators and great worriors of the past.
but id dream to see a pred 3.i want the strausses to do it to :P hehe.
Will there be anything left to even have a story for Predator 3, I mean the AVP films have told to much about the predators that there really isn't anything left for a predator 3 :P
not much left but they could make something
Quote from: ChAoS on Sep 11, 2007, 01:22:16 AM
i would love to see pred 3 set in like world war 2. in the trenches, or just flash backs of gladiators and great worriors of the past.
but id dream to see a pred 3.i want the strausses to do it to :P hehe.
I remember there being a scrapped script of P3 were it was a prequel, it took place in 1715 on pirate ships and what not, and we saw how the pred elder got the pirate gun given to danny glover in P2.
I really hope that if we are seeing the predator homeworld that there is a cameo of a Predator female, would be pretty intresting.
how could we tell it was one...
Boobs!
It's pretty cool that the pred planet will be shown, but that means that my vision of their homeworld might be shot down. :(
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Sep 11, 2007, 01:29:57 AM
Boobs!
might have 4 boobs.. who cares neway!
enough about pred boobs.
I must agree about it being hard to do a pred3 film.. there
has been quite alot of story told.. if one was done it would have to be a past setting.. cuz its the only thing different.i cant see a pred these days without seeing an alien near it.
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 10, 2007, 09:48:45 PM
Could just be wherever the ship is coming from. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the Pred planet.
I hope this does actually happen. Seeing the Wolf returing to his ship from a hunt on a distant world to receive the distress call.
I can see it now:
Wolf: Why do you need me?
Celtic: 'Cause some damn fool accused you of being the best!
Wolf: Celtic! You son of a bitch!
LMAO
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: CelticP on Sep 10, 2007, 10:22:56 PM
Meh, I wouldnt have an issue seeing PredPlanet.
Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.
I think just seeing a ship come to earth and leave an Alien in the jungle killing folks works. Why fix something that ain't broke?
The reason it worked is because the audiance is just as clueless as to the idenitity of this assailant as the Solidiers are. Seeing there homeworld takes this, shits on it, and throws it out of the f**king window.
The mystery = gone.
awww...are the pred fans upset that an insy-winsy bit of mystery to their favourite character is ruined? AT LEAST HES NOT SITTING ON TOP OF A F**KING CHEVY! (im using your comment as an example, am not implying youre a pred fanboy) but now pred fans know how we alien fans have felt since A:R.
So when people say to me "the aliens on a car...whats wrong with that?" "its set on earth...deal with it" what Im gonna say is that I think seeing the predplanet is a COOL IDEA so QUIT YOUR WHINGING.
hopefully its as close to the aztecs as possible...oh yeah..im up for seeing some pred loincloth and predfemale boobies!
in all seriousness though, excluding some rare talent (e.g scott or cameron returning) these creatures are past their sell-by date...which is why they've been paired up.
the only thing they can do is to show us more about them, because theyre not the effective horror tools they once were. we know what they look like....theyre characters that many of us root for....to see glimpses of them now just isnt enough. weve got to see a predator blast an aliens head and for its acid to melt a teenagers face to even enjoy them anymore. its the whole freddy kruger thing all over again.
Alien 5...Predator 3....these are movies which will probably never happen. its likely that this...or avp3 will be the last time we see these creatures on the screen.
the glory days are over. :(
Fox has been making these movies since 1979, 28 years of films with Aliens and Predators, I doubt this will be the last one, if they wanted to stop they would have stopped with Alien 3.
You mean 28 years with alien, 20 years with predator :P
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Sep 11, 2007, 03:24:21 AM
You mean 28 years with alien, 20 years with predator :P
Yea, I meant 28 years of having both, either an Alien film or Predator film.
I hope they don't really claim it to be the 'home' planet. I don't mind if they show a scene with the wolf on some random planet. That could work to set up the idea of him being contacted and sent to earth.
But personally I don't want to see anything close to a base planet with establishments. Like it's been mentioned, I think it will kill some of the mystery behind them. I always liked the idea of seeing just 1 pred or a Small group at the most (pred 2). solitary hunters.
This is me, but I just don't want to know where they come from or what they do when they're not hunting.
Part of me feels like saying hell no, but curiosity has the better of me. I agree with many people in this thread that Predator and Alien are not horror creatures anymore and are in need of more development in terms of history or background. I think the fans deserve that and I'm glad someone is bold enough to say I'm making history here.
What I want is for them to show a Predator Homeworld that is dense, humid, green with jungle/forest with mountainous swamp terrain. I want to see tribal lifestyle and Predator rituals (if they have to). I don't wanna see a technological world like Coruscant in Star Wars. A world free of possessions, comforts and modern society. The less they show the better in my opinion. Let's add more but still keep a degree of mystery.
I hope the bros pull this off well and I have confidence in it.
More and more stuff are getting to be spoiled... I have started to worry...
Quote from: Xerxész on Sep 11, 2007, 07:14:46 AM
More and more stuff are getting to be spoiled... I have started to worry...
It'd be too hard to generate new interest to fans and new audience if nothing new was given. Having the same thing over and over without any expansion just gets to repetitive and dare I say boring.
I hope we find out soon how long the movie will be, I hope it's a two hour film!!!
how do you think should the HW look like???
As Alien as possible.
I wanna see nothing other than massive forests and swamps with alien birds and plants.
i think there not going to show the pred planet but the planet from Aliens, and you see some preds collecting alien eggs and bringin them to their ship but when egg hathes and a pred is offguard and gets faceraped
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 11, 2007, 11:02:26 AM
I wanna see nothing other than massive forests and swamps with alien birds and plants.
yeah, thats my imagin, too! maybe green water and green sky. impressive buildings, maybe temple
Quote from: karhan on Sep 11, 2007, 11:09:05 AM
i think there not going to show the pred planet but the planet from Aliens
Nope. The quote from Greg that has everyone theorisin' is "A
new world perhaps..." (Emphasis mine.)
Who knows.
I dont want to see a "Yoda" jungle planet...
Dagobah was more of a swamp than a jungle...
Why do you think guys that it is the homeworld of predators? It hasn't been officially confirmed yet. It is a rumor. A predator-fan-made rumor. The expression "new world" doesn't refer at all to the world of predators.
Just imagine that this "new world" means a different planet where the predators pick up the facehuggers...so according to this assumption the planet can be an alien-populated environment. And then this scene isn't going to be at the end of the film, rather than at the beginning of it.
Just don't think monotonic...
Quote from: Xerxész on Sep 11, 2007, 12:08:31 PM
Why do you think guys that it is the homeworld of predators? It hasn't been officially confirmed yet. It is a rumor. A predator-fan-made rumor. The expression "new world" doesn't refer at all to the world of predators.
Just imagine that this "new world" means a different planet where the predators pick up the facehuggers...so according to this assumption the planet can be an alien-populated environment. And then this scene isn't going to be at the end of the film, rather than at the beginning of it.
Just don't think monotonic...
Very true we don't know exactly what planet we shall see.
I just want to know how they bring the homeworld of predator in the story, i dont want to see the homeworld just for the sake of it, i want it to be part of the story telling.
I would love to see it, but i just hope they make it dark and really predator-like.
(if they show it at all)
I was just looking over the info we recieved on the possibility of homeworlds and turns out designs were done for both the Alien and Predator homeworld.
QuoteI was just looking over the info we recieved on the possibility of homeworlds and turns out designs were done for both the Alien and Predator homeworld.
That would be FAR too much. Are the Strauses arrogant to the point of showing what should be properly introduced in an
Alien V movie? I don't think there's enough room in the movie, either. I pray these were just scrapped designs, not incorporated into the script.
If I got to choose, I would pick the Alien homeworld. The Pred world may ruin the Predator, Y'know?
Quote from: Danger Close on Sep 11, 2007, 06:32:53 PM
If I got to choose, I would pick the Alien homeworld. The Pred world may ruin the Predator, Y'know?
Same. I like Predators a tiny bit more than Aliens. And to be honest, the Alien homeworld will pobably be a really big hive.
total suckage, that's what i think, however i still have hope for this movie and thinking it turn out to be at least medicore-good :)
hope it will be just few quick shots, that's all.
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 10, 2007, 09:48:45 PM
Could just be wherever the ship is coming from. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the Pred planet.
I hope this does actually happen. Seeing the Wolf returing to his ship from a hunt on a distant world to receive the distress call.
I can see it now:
Wolf: Why do you need me?
Celtic: 'Cause some damn fool accused you of being the best!
Wolf: Celtic! You son of a bitch!
lmfao.
Wolf: Whatssamatta? The elder got you pushin too many shurikens?
Celtic: Make it easy on yourself Wolf! ... Allright allright!
Wolf: Heh, always did know when to quit huh Celtic?
Celtic: Hey, That alien broke my net.
QuoteCeltic: Hey, That alien broke my net.
;D
QuoteCeltic: Hey, That alien broke my net.
(h3at0r 0MG |-|4X0RZ!!!! B4N |-|1M FR0M D4 53RV3R!!!!
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:52:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Sep 10, 2007, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Sep 10, 2007, 11:48:56 PM
Seems that this movie will have lots of surprises.
Yes you are right...im both creatures fan, and i want balance, but i dont see balance yet...maybe the Wolf uses his medikit a lot lol :P
actually i read in the latest interview that there would be scene with wolf using his medikit.
Quote from: Huol on Sep 11, 2007, 07:34:04 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 10, 2007, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 10, 2007, 09:48:45 PM
Could just be wherever the ship is coming from. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the Pred planet.
I hope this does actually happen. Seeing the Wolf returing to his ship from a hunt on a distant world to receive the distress call.
I can see it now:
Wolf: Why do you need me?
Celtic: 'Cause some damn fool accused you of being the best!
Wolf: Celtic! You son of a bitch!
lmfao.
Wolf: Whatssamatta? The elder got you pushin too many shurikens?
Celtic: Make it easy on yourself Wolf! ... Allright allright!
Wolf: Heh, always did know when to quit huh Celtic?
Celtic: Hey, That alien broke my net.
LMAO!
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 10:51:22 PM
It isn't, because it didn't.
Haha! Oh boy... the moment the egg location in Alien changed from a pyramid to a ship, the original intention was scrapped. The ship did crash onto the planet. You can even see that it's a crash site in two films!
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2007, 10:51:22 PM
By people who'd never set foot on the planet, or at least not until well after a cataclysm wiped out all life on the planet. What they said doesn't contradict that the planet was their homeworld, and that the planet died leaving only eggs, which the Jockeys found and loaded onto their ship.
Eh? What cataclysm? You're just making up shit for a completely unsupported theory. So the Jockeys just landed, scooped up thousands of eggs that somehow survived an event that wiped out everything else, hung around long enough to get impregnated and then just died all whilst never taking off again? That neither lady in the briefing has set foot on the planet is irrelevant (and also wrong), the suit has a report from the colonists who have been living there for 20 years and we have the testimony of an experienced officer who saw the ship actually saying that the ship had crashed there. It's a gorram plot point that they didn't come from the planet!
Quote from: redxavier on Sep 10, 2007, 10:46:24 PM
Hmm... both Alien and Aliens contradict the original plan. If it wasn't obvious enough that the derelict had crashed on LV-426, a dialogue exchange in Aliens spells it out for you.
We don't even know if it was a ship. It could have been...
(A) A building.
(B) A ship which safely landed.
(C) A ship which landed and docked onto a building.
(D) A ship which landed and docked onto a building which was designed and constructed by a completely different species, trying to explore it like the Nostromo crew had.
Remember, the egg chamber dimensions are far bigger to what we see on the surface. :)
Quote from: AdamJZ on Sep 11, 2007, 01:27:21 AM
I really hope that if we are seeing the predator homeworld that there is a cameo of a Predator female, would be pretty intresting.
No... Absolutely not, please. I prefer the Dark Horse writer guidelines: If you're close enough to figure out what gender they are, you're already dead. The ones we've already seen might havea ll been females, for all we know.
Try and tell apart a male and female crocodile. They don't need breasts. I don't see why Predators should. Especially with that mouth design!
I also don't think this film could handle an Alien homeworld. Aliens, if they evolved naturally (a theory I've favoured), would have an ecosystem they naturally settled into. Either environmental difficulties prevented them consuming every organic resource in sight or there were far worse things on that world.
I don't trust Hydraulx and ADI, based on their past work, to come even
close to designing dozens of new creatures which look like they're capable of taking on Aliens with ease. Winston or WETA, maybe.
They've probably also spread across many worlds, just as Predators have done. Unless this film is going to reek cheese with a legend going 'PREDATOR HOMEWORLD' (like the things would even call themselves 'Predators'), I'm not sure how they'll convey it's actually that, instead of just some colony place.
Also, Earth in the future would be pointless. It became a "shithole". Humanity has moved out in the galaxy. There would be no one world's fate able to dictate our survival. We can add Earth to the list of things which '
Alien Resurrection' prevented us from meaningfully exploring in a future story, including the Colonial Marines and Weyland-Yutani.
Unelss they set it before then, of course. But we'd know in advance that any outbreak would be contained, because the general public never knew about the things before then.
It's very curious.
When and for what reasons do you think they will be showing the predator homeworld. I think it's a great idea, i just hope they execute it in a good way. I think they will either show it in the beginning of the movie, in the end, or maybe-possibly in some kinda flashback..though that'd be kinda of strange. Either way, it should end up pretty good because itll be the first time in any of these movies that we will see their planet.
Well, I was thinking they could show it towards the beginning, with Wolf recieving the distress signal or something, maybe equipping himself. But they don't usually reveal stuff at the beginning so...I donno man. Lookin forward to it though. ;)
edit : OR, maybe Wolf is defeated, with a number of aliens left, and we see the pred-planet, where the Elder realizes that Wolf is dead, and sends a new ship with some preds for a multi-pred multi-alien final battle...damn small budget makes things like this a bit out there though...
I was thinking it would be shown at the beginning aswell, and that wolf would be called upon the task. But their world is proboly way far away from earth and the predator wouldn't get to earth until halfway through the movie.
I reckon it will take place at the end of the film and will be some sort of cliffhanger.
Yeah thats more likely to happen, but I'm curious how and why, and if it will have a major role in the film. Theres a ridiculous amount of possibilities.
Either a cliffhanger or were see glimpses of it at the start.
I was also thinking maybe some preds come for Wolfs body or he suceeds (spelling) on the way back to the home planet some facehuggers snuck on board and we see at the end the aliens have now made it to the pred homeworld...donno haven't thought this through much...lol. I'm lookin forward to this a lot though.
Don't see how it'd be a cliffhanger at the end. All I hope is that it's not a flashback midway through the film.
Nice, that would be a great ending that could occur, and thats how AVP3 starts.
maybe not.. but you know its a possibilty.
yeah would be sweet ^^....Colin or Greg said there was a pretty finite ending though...
I wouldn't really like to see a predator flashback, it'd be similar to the dog flashback in the original Hills have Eyes 2..and that..well you know..
As long as we get to see thats all that matters. Im sure they wont have temples and that crap in it.
The ship we see go down...maybe we see it leave the predator planet and head to Earth?
man was that a dissapoinment i remember seeing that part with the preds on the pyrimid fighting the 100's of aliens and hoping to see that battle in the movie only to find out it was a s**** flashback, that was maybe 30 seconds long that was basically a tease Anderson threw in..
Quote from: Adicts5321 on Sep 22, 2007, 08:16:28 PM
man was that a dissapoinment i remember seeing that part with the preds on the pyrimid fighting the 100's of aliens and hoping to see that battle in the movie only to find out it was a s**** flashback, that was maybe 30 seconds long that was basically a tease Anderson threw in..
Yes...Yes indeed...damn it coulda at least been a bigger scene!
We prolly should'nt get too excited about the homeworld though, cuz it may be a lil 10 second thing and thats it...I'm so curious though! lol
Quote from: SMJ on Sep 22, 2007, 08:15:12 PM
The ship we see go down...maybe we see it leave the predator planet and head to Earth?
I dunno, thats the scout ship from AVP i believe..
I could be wrong.
Quote from: Adicts5321 on Sep 22, 2007, 08:19:05 PM
Quote from: SMJ on Sep 22, 2007, 08:15:12 PM
The ship we see go down...maybe we see it leave the predator planet and head to Earth?
I dunno, thats the scout ship from AVP i believe..
I could be wrong.
I'm pretty positive they said the ship that goes down aint from AVP, but im not sure either bro.
Anyone think we'll see maybe a hunt on the homeworld..? Because if SMJ is right and "Wolf" comes from the planet on one of the Predships.
Wolf could be hunting (in the middle of a hunt) on the planet and then be ordered to go to Earth to elimnate the alien infestation in Gunnison. Meanwhile the scout ship has crashed on Eaarth, the predators on board are dead, and the aliens are beginning to impregnate the surrounding organisms. By the time wolf reaches Earth the aliens are mature, the armys gotten involved and the aliens have begun to kill the local residents..
again its a possibilty...
Quote from: Adicts5321 on Sep 22, 2007, 08:31:33 PM
Anyone think we'll see maybe a hunt on the homeworld..? Because if SMJ is right and "Wolf" comes from the planet on one of the Predships.
Wolf could be hunting (in the middle of a hunt) on the planet and then be ordered to go to Earth to elimnate the alien infestation in Gunnison. Meanwhile the scout ship has crashed on Eaarth, the predators on board are dead, and the aliens are beginning to impregnate the surrounding organisms. By the time wolf reaches Earth the aliens are mature, the armys gotten involved and the aliens have begun to kill the local residents..
again its a possibilty...
Unlikly, but heres to hopin! THAT would be sweet! OOOO I know they have a low budget but it'd be awesome if he was hunting one of them T-Rex lookin things in P2's trophy case!!! Even if he had just killed it!
i'd like that personally..
Or if he was hunting down a rogue predator, just to give the audience an idea how high ranking and bad-A$$ he is...oh yeah... ;). I like to think of Wolf as the Elder's right-hand man. Sry I'm gettin off-topic here.
I wonder if their just gonna show the predator homeworld in some kinda quick glance at the planet at the end or very beginning..
If I had to bet money I'd say thats what it'll be...
sadly...but still who knows, fox gave them more money to add/redo scenes how they wanted to they could of gone more indepth with the predator planet..
Thats true, I forgot about the additional money....Plus the bros seem to be good at the whole "bang for your buck" thing so...I'm sure it'll be cool. How it will look had got my mind racing...
Yeah me aswell..
I really wanna see it..I'm sure they won't dissapoint us..
I wouldn't be this skeptical about the movie if AVP wasn't so goddamn horrible...
What do you think? Should it be jungley, or like a weird desert....should it be advanced looking, or tribal? I ain't sure. But I'm thinkin kinda tropical-ish, but with strange plants and stuff, and kinda primitive looking. Like alien-indians or somthing to that effect. But I'm very open to the idea. I'm a minority but I liked the temples/waterfall pic in the other topic someone posted a pic of.
yeah i was thinking it would be kinda like the mesozoic era, with like lush jungles and strange creatures running around and the weather extrememly humid and hot.
yeah, kinda pre-historic lookin. Very aged looking environment, something similar too, but obviously NOT, Earth. Def be cool.
But it'd be mostly jungle dont you think.
Yes definatly very jungle-y. The book forever-midnight (wich I havent read, but know some of from a friend) describes a pred-planet with very tropical environment, layers and layers of canopy, predators in the trees its so thick you can walk on it (the canopy) it sounded really cool. Had 3 suns around it so most the year the planet was very very hot and almost never dark.
If there was a humid and hot environment, with lots of light from three suns why preds would have infra red vision spectrum?
Its pretty obvious that its going to be in this movie but probally briefly, what do you think it will look like?
Whatever it looks like, I truly hope they don't f**k it up.
Personally, I wouldn't show the Predator homeworld. Creatures/aliens are always more interesting when you don't explain every last damn thing about them. Why does there even have to be a homeworld? I wouldn't be against the idea of Predators being a species that once had a homeworld, but now only remain with a few remaining nomadic ships/clans that do on other planets what they used to do on their own : hunt.
Things I would like to see if I were forced to insert the scene:
I would expect the world to be primitive, lush, and hot, with some other sorts of nasty and violent indigenous life. Pretending like Anderson's AvP never happened, both Predator movies established very strongly that Predators prefer it H O T. So, no f**king ice. No cold. It can be that simple. Vegetation + heat + vicious indigenous species.
Things that would make me go apeshit angry if they included in a predator homeworld sequence:
-Anything that even remotely resembles a f**king pyramid.
-Female Predators (they may exist in comic books, but it would look retarded on screen, don't even get me started)
-Predator "civilization" : I don't want to see any f**king Predator universities, Predator starbucks, or Predator ship building factories. They are a violent, primitive creature that mysteriously has advanced technology. Explaining where they got their technology or how they developed it would take be disappointing no matter how you did it.
-Predators-in-training: I don't want to see another overweight, clumsy, dipshit teenage predator as long as I live. Leave the female and youth predators to the lore of lousy comics and Paul Anderson movies, respectively.
In summary: I just hope they keep it brief, simple, and don't try and explain too much.
Those "Lousy" comics are some of the most importaint parts of the franchise, we wouldent have AVP games or movies, and not to mention Predator 2 was an adaptation of a Predator Comic.
Quote from: AdamJZ on Oct 08, 2007, 02:25:16 AM
Those "Lousy" comics are some of the most importaint parts of the franchise, we wouldent have AVP games or movies, and not to mention Predator 2 was an adaptation of a Predator Comic.
Where is my rolls-eyes smiley....oh there it is ::)
I wasn't implying that
all the AvP comics were lousy, I WAS implying that the occasional AvP comics that went a little off the wall were lousy.
I love most of the Darkhorse comics, hell even the Batman vs Predator comics were done well.
I just don't want to see a 100 pound chick in a predator mask/gear fighting an Alien Queen on the movie screen, for example.
You with me now?
Isn't the Alien planet going to be in there too? I remember reading a news message
on the site where it said two worlds were created.
I would think of it as a sort of huge, humid jungle-like planet with many rocky deserts in some areas because of the heat. I would also like to see a couple glimpeses of danerously violent creatures that they hunt. But then it wouldn't really make sense fot them to hunt on other planets if they have things to hunt home. Unless it's what mother and father Preds could teach young Preds. I honestly don't see a problem with female Preds. For many species there are males and females and I don't get why the Yautja can't. Don't give me that bull stuff about them being completley differen Alien species.
maybe itll show wolf on a previous hunt, on the homeworld, with some ultra badass monster
Why do they need to show the predator homeworld, why not Wolf just hunting on another planet?
I agree, the Predator homeworld should be kept a secret.
Quote from: Predalien warrior on Oct 08, 2007, 09:31:38 AM
I agree, the Predator homeworld should be kept a secret.
Yes, next thing on the list, 'Spacejockeys' origin', 'Alien origin' and the 'what the hell happened in the derelict that forced it to crash' scene... ::)
Some things are best kept a secret...it prevents people targeting the directors for making a homeworld below their expectations... everyone has a different take on how the Predator homeworld should look like, myself included... What if they botch the shot..? If it's the last shot, that will leave a bitter and unnecessary aftertaste at the end of the movie... And even though some might like the depiction of the homeworld, because it made sense or just went towards their own imagery of the planet, some might not like it... So why risk yet another fallout with the fans...? The last scenes and shots need to be soothing, otherwise, people will remember the end of the movie as either being amazing or botched... And that will be the lingering memory of the movie...I remember more easily the end of a movie than the middle or even the beginning... How about you...? ??? ;)
Yeah but plenty of fans already have issues with the movie - hell, it doesn't matter what they do, there are going to be fans who don't like it. Sometimes you just have to pretty bold to put something out there, knowing people might hate it or love it, but just do it anyway.
Anyway, I'm more interested in their 'attempt' to show the predator homeworld, then in the total absence of it altogether.
Quote from: gameoverman on Oct 08, 2007, 04:16:55 AM
Why do they need to show the predator homeworld, why not Wolf just hunting on another planet?
I still don't see why this option doesn't satisfy the fanbase.
I find it humerous how so many replys in this thread have things of this nature
"They better not.."
"Would be stupid.."
"Are they so arrogant.."
"I want .."
"Seeing the Alien homeworld would be acceptable.."
The movie is out in 2 months at which point you can all eat your words, and lick your fingers too.
No matter what these poor guys do (The bros) you are going to criticize them, and it isn't constructive by any means most of the time. We don't even know for certain it is in fact the predator home world, but because were under the assumption it is we see posts flaming the idea but praising a view of the Alien home world. Id bet my bottom dollar if the Subject of this thread said "Alien Home world" those people would be saying "Seeing the Predator home world would be acceptable..." Think about it. This movie was made with the fans in mind, but it's their movie to make. If a planet is going to be seen stfu and enjoy it, because this could be the last time we see Aliens or Predators on the big screen. Id be grateful that two brothers are taking the time to bring it back to its roots and are giving it the time, respect, and care it deserves, period. If any of you are really capable of doing better then I suggest you get off your asses log off your computer and get to it.
-Nihkoute
So I've been hanging around in the AvPR screen at work and I don't know if anyone else has noticed the pyramid and a 2nd ship in the exterior homeworld scene?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 24, 2008, 01:41:19 PM
So I've been hanging around in the AvPR screen at work and I don't know if anyone else has noticed the pyramid and a 2nd ship in the exterior homeworld scene?
I didnt saw that! the scene was so quick... :-\
I'm actually glad someone had the balls to go against the fans (the small band of about 5000), If Ridley scott had shown the predator world , no matter what he put up, people would be saying , how profound, master piece, legend. A bit like when someone sparys shit across a canvas and someone buys it for $15000 because its expensive.
The pred world to me was good, out of the ordinary, and not what we expected. I liked it, it was probably the best part of the movie.
I liked it too, but i would like to see more of it.
Quote from: slipknotpredator on Jan 24, 2008, 02:21:21 PM
I liked it too, but i would like to see more of it.
me too, but its good to hold back, gives you that bit of wonder.
I love when Wolf turns around on his chair. So badass.
There is a pyramid.
The Brothers clearly stated they only see the other films as canon, the nomadic concept from the books/comics/forums doesn't carry any weight with them.
Nothing in AVP-R actually states it's THE homeworld.
My wife always laughs when Wolf leaves, it looks like he's just commuting to work.
Quote from: Blood on Jan 24, 2008, 05:36:40 PM
The Brothers clearly stated they only see the other films as canon, the nomadic concept from the books/comics/forums doesn't carry any weight with them.
Nothing in AVP-R actually states it's THE homeworld.
My wife always laughs when Wolf leaves, it looks like he's just commuting to work.
Well, didn't they botch the RC because they deemed not necessary to take AR under advisement when conceiving the PQ's RC and therefore missed out on some very important information...? ::)
to tell the truth, i didn't really like the predator homeworld that much.
i mean buildings ontop of lava? thats seems pretty illogical due to unsteady ground movements ie earthquakes (or would it be called predator homeworld quakes because its not on earth??? ::)), volcano eruptions ect.
Isn't earthquake actually referring to earth, as in the continental crust and soil and rock and etc, not the planet's name?
Yeah, I noticed the pyramid. It looked old and craggy, but was a nice addition. :)