Gameplay Bugs/Issues

Started by ikarop, Feb 16, 2010, 05:55:09 PM

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ikarop

ikarop

In order to keep the forum organized and easy to navigate, please use this thread to post your problems or general doubts about the game. Also, you can use this thread to post your first impressions on the game.

Patch Changelogs:

ATI Driver Hotfix:
Quote from: [REB]Trigger on Feb 25, 2010, 11:30:40 PM
A hotfix driver has been released for ATI cards and is available here.

We advise players to follow the recommendation of ATI and only install this if you are experiencing hangs/freezes (i.e. the game becomes unresponsive but does not crash) when attempting to run AVP in DX11/10 mode.

Update:

Nvidia Latest Drivers fix various issues:

Quote from: perfect organism on Mar 02, 2010, 04:21:36 PM
I cant believe it, but i just installed the new NVIDIA Drivers 196.75 and i still cant believe it...

- No stuttering anymore when i start and play the game under directX11  ;D
- Overall performance seems to be improved and everything is a lot smoother  ;)

I didnt try out the DirectX9 mode, but im just happy that the stuttering is gone now.






README (PC):

Spoiler
QuoteAliens vs Predator
==================

Table of Contents

1. System Requirements
2. Installing This Software
3. Technical Support
4. Troubleshooting Tips

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1. System Requirements
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Your computer must meet the following system requirements to run this game.
The game may not run, or you may experience decreased performance on
computers that do not fulfil these requirements.

Minimum Spec.
Operating System: Windows XP / Vista / 7
Processor: 3.4 GHz IntelĀ® Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
Memory: 1 GB System RAM (XP) / 2 GB System RAM (Vista / 7)
Graphics: DirectX 9.0c compliant video card with 256 MB RAM (NVIDIA 7900 or better, ATI X1800 or better)
Sound: DirectX Compatible
Hard Drive: 16 GB free space

Recommended Spec.
Operating System: Windows XP / Vista / 7
Processor: IntelĀ® Core 2 Duo E6400 or equivalent processor
Memory: 2 GB System RAM (XP) / 3 GB System RAM (Vista / 7)
Graphics: DirectX 9.0c compliant video card with 512 MB RAM (NVIDIA 8800 series or better, ATI HD2900 PRO or better)
Sound: DirectX Compatible
Hard Drive: 16 GB free space

Note: The game's performance and/or graphical quality may differ according
to your computer's hardware and/or video card. Computers with high-performance
hardware will provide the best game performance.

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2. Installing This Software
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To install the game, insert Aliens vs Predator DVD 1 into your CD/DVD drive.

If you have auto-run enabled on your computer the installation program will
automatically open and prompt you to install Aliens vs Predator to your hard
drive. If auto-run is not enabled, browse to the DVD in Windows Explorer and
double-click on the setup.exe file. Follow the on-screen prompts to install
the game and its components to your computer.

Once Steam is installed and the game has completed its installation, you are
ready to begin playing. Under Windows XP you should double-click the Steam
icon on your desktop or in your Start Menu and double-click the Aliens vs
Predator entry in your "My games" tab in Steam. Under Windows Vista / 7 you
can directly launch the game by double-clicking on the Aliens vs Predator
icon in the Games Explorer window or you can follow the same steps as in
Windows XP.

Under Windows Vista / 7 you have the option of using either the DirectX 9 or
the DirectX 11 version of Aliens vs Predator. You can use the DX11 version
even on DX10 hardware but the additional DX11-specific video options will be
disabled. Provided drivers are up to date, any Vista / 7 users with DX10
hardware or better should therefore be able to run the DX11 version.
Generally the DX11 version should provide superior performance over the DX9
version.

If necessary you can explicitly launch either the DX9 or DX11 version via the
right-click menu in Steam. However, the default launch option should
automatically detect which version your computer can support. Please note
that launching via Games Explorer will always use the automatic detection.

The version of DirectX being used by the game will be displayed in the video
options menu, just underneath the Aliens vs Predator logo.

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3. Technical Support
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If you need further technical assistance after reading this ReadMe file
and the game manual, please do not hesitate to contact us  using any of the
methods listed below.

When contacting us, please be sure to provide us with as much information
as possible. Make sure to note the exact type of hardware that you are
using in your system, including: your sound card, CD/DVD drive, amount
of RAM present, speed and manufacturer of your processor. Also, make sure
to include the title and version of the game, and a detailed description of
the problem.

It will also help if you prepare  by creating a "DXDiag" diagnostic file in
Windows before you call us. To do this, simply follow these instructions:

i) Click on Start
ii) Click on Run
iii) Type "dxdiag"
iv) Click on OK
v) Click on the "Save All Information" button and save the file

When you call our Technical Support line either have this file open or have
a printed copy. If you send an e-mail query you may attach the file to the
e-mail.

Technical Support Contact Details (Europe):

info@segahelp.com
www.sega-europe.com

Technical Support Contact Details (North America):

www.sega.com/support

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4. Troubleshooting Tips
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i) Please ensure that you are using the latest driver versions available for
your computer, particularly for your graphics and sound cards. You may
experience graphical artifacts or instability if you are using earlier
drivers.

ii) If you are not achieving acceptable performance you should try adjusting
some of the video options downwards. The default settings may not be
appropriate for your computer. The single largest performance gain should
come from decreasing the resolution used. Beyond that, turning down the other
video options - for example, disabling Ambient Occlusion - will also help.
You may need to experiment to find the best trade-off for your computer.

iii) If you wish to play the DX11 version of Aliens vs Predator and use the
additional DX11-specific features then you must ensure that your graphics
card and graphics card drivers are DX11 compatible. If your graphics card
and drivers are only DX10 compatible then you can still run the DX11 version
but you will not be able to use the additional DX11-specific features. It
is particularly important that your video card drivers are up to date when
running the DX11 version; users have reported just getting a black screen
with the audio continuing in the background when running with out of date
drivers.

iv) When playing the DX9 version on computers with relatively low amounts of
system RAM, turning down the texture detail setting may improve performance
even if you have a good video card.

v) There is a known issue with the light from the Marine flare not working
on Nvidia cards if the "low" shadow detail option is selected. This may be
addressed in a later Nvidia driver revision but if you experience this issue
then please select a different shadow detail option. Note that turning the
shadow detail option up above "low" will decrease performance on lower end
video cards so you may need to choose the "off" setting instead.

vi) In the DX11 version you may experience a low framerate for a limited
period of time when starting a level or after modifying graphics options.
This is more likely to be seen on computers running Windows Vista rather than
Windows 7. Reducing your resolution, AA setting, or texture detail will help
to alleviate this issue. This may also be addressed in future driver updates.

vii) If you experience hangs or freezes while playing Aliens vs Predator with
an ATI video card, especially if a dialog appears reporting that "ATIKMDAG
has stopped responding but was successfully recovered" then please see KB
article 737-27116 on the AMD support website for solutions.

viii) If you experience graphical artifacts such as random polygons or colours
being drawn on the screen while playing Aliens vs Predator, please check that
your video card is not overheating. You should also check that your video
card drivers are up to date. Some users have reported that this issue can be
caused by a corrupt video card driver installation. This can be corrected by
uninstalling old drivers and optionally using a 3rd party utility such as
Driver Sweeper, then installing the latest available drivers.

ix) If you find that the Predator vision modes are not correctly
highlighting enemies of the relevant species then please check that you are
not forcing anti-aliasing on via your video card drivers. This primarily
affects Nvidia video cards when running the DX9 version of Aliens vs
Predator. This issue may be addressed in a future driver release.

x) Currently in the DX11 version the gamma video option is not compatible
with Nvidia video cards. This may be addressed in a future driver release.
You should leave the gamma at its default setting (0.5) in these
circumstances.

xi) Users have reported that on certain sound hardware, primarily Sound
Blaster X-Fi cards, that audio may be missing or corrupted. If you experience
this issue then you may be able to address it by turning off Sound Blaster
enhancements. For example, on Windows Vista / 7 you may be able do this by
going to Control Panel -> Sound -> Playback -> [active playback device] ->
Properties -> Sound Blaster and ticking the Disable Enhancements box, then
clicking Ok. The active playback device will depend on your setup but will
probably be called Speakers or Headphones. You may find this option
elsewhere, depending on your OS or drivers. This issue may be addressed in a
future driver release or Aliens vs Predator patch.

xii) Users with multiple video cards in an ATI CrossFire or Nvidia SLI setup
may find that their framerate will improve if they disable the Reduce Mouse
Lag option in the Controls menu. Note that this may introduce greater latency
on the mouse input and this option should left enabled unless necessary.

xiii) At the time of writing, Steam does not currently support the Players
list in conjunction with player lobbies. Your list of players that you've
recently played with, etc., will not be populated with players from Aliens vs
Predator until Steam is updated to support this.

xiv) Users with Nvidia video cards and certain driver / operating system
combinations may find that if they use the DX11 version and have both the
V-Sync and Reduce Mouse Lag options enabled that the game will hang on the
loading screen when starting a level. You can workaround this by disabling
one of those options or by using the DX9 version instead. This issue may be
addressed in a future driver release or Aliens vs Predator patch.

Quote from: [REB]Trigger on Feb 19, 2010, 01:47:38 PM
We are currently investigating the PC "stuttering" issue, which unfortunately wasn't found during extensive compatibility testing. We believe a few things may be contributing to this:

1) A combination of driver issues and the video memory manager that's used in Vista and Windows 7 under DX10 and 11. We're talking to Nvidia and ATI about this. This may also be responsible for the extreme memory usage that some people are seeing.

2) People using settings that are too high for the amount of VRAM in their video cards. Please note that if you adjust the texture detail settings then you must restart the game for this to take effect. There should be a dialog that advises you of this. Please try using the default Normal setting and seeing if that solves or reduces the problem.

3) The V-Sync and/or Reduce Mouse Lag options. The latter is found under the Controls options menu, not Video. Turning both of these off may help on Nvidia cards. This may be related to the problem described in point 4.xiv in the ReadMe.

As has been noted in this thread, playing the DX9 version instead should also solve this stuttering.

With regards to the low process priority that some people have noticed, this is intentional when you Alt-Tab out of the game, unless you are playing multiplayer. When you Alt-Tab back in, the process priority should return to normal.
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Axlotl

Axlotl

#1
I got a C++ runtime error after hitting reload checkpoint in Refinery after being sucked into a fan, now the game won't open. Going to try restarting my PC now, and will post what happens here when I do.

EDIT: no luck. the game still won't open anymore.

EDIT: Fixed it. The runtime error apparently deleted AvP.exe, I did the validate option under properties on steam, and it redownloaded a file, then the game works. I know it was AvP.exe that disappeared, because I had the folder open in the background and saw the exe pop up when steam repaired it. I really hope this doesn't happen any more.

Xhan

Xhan

#2
-Windows doesn't like things being labeled avp.exe because it has its own executable under that name.

-ranked skins do not unlock.

-Getting a simul kill on a couple of maps causes both players to be ejected from the current game.

Cellien

Cellien

#3
3D Vision no worky.  (I haven't tried it myself, just going on reports for now.)

MrBrokenTusks.

MrBrokenTusks.

#4
Quote from: Cellien on Feb 16, 2010, 09:25:21 PM
3D Vision no worky.  (I haven't tried it myself, just going on reports for now.)

3D :O?

Cellien

Cellien

#5

MrBrokenTusks.

MrBrokenTusks.

#6
Quote from: Cellien on Feb 16, 2010, 09:35:48 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 16, 2010, 09:26:52 PM
Quote from: Cellien on Feb 16, 2010, 09:25:21 PM
3D Vision no worky.  (I haven't tried it myself, just going on reports for now.)

3D :O?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Main.html   :o

Is avp supposed to be in 3D it might just be not compatible ?

Cellien

Cellien

#7
Tim Jones of Rebellion had been talking about it working supposedly, however this does not seem to be the case.

Dreamon666

Dreamon666

#8
It's been discussed before, but i'd like a separate attack button for the alien's tail lash, it's stupid it can only be used on the sealing + it works only at a range of 3 meters and at 2 meters distance the heavy attack automatically takes over for that attack type.

Also give the tail lash a descend stun, e.g: 0.3 secs, just enough to get behind them, because we can't stun or knock down Preds (but we can on marines? the Preds already have superior melee, where's the balance in that?), which is very annoying since all their one-shot-kill-weapons can still be used in close combat, especially the disc is annoying (if you even get past the disc at long range).
I think this is a subtle change which helps the aliens in melee, but doesn't affect the game too much and doesn't make the Alien over powered.

A small and easy change, but genious.

Caosss

Caosss

#9
Just saying, yes preds are more powerfull in melee, yes preds have more powerfull weaponry, yes preds are way slower than aliens.. Wait? Oh right, aliens are really fast, I think thats where the balance is. Also the alien heavy attack has a long range, I cant tell you how many times Ive heavy spammed preds to death (and Im not talking about the insta tail wall spam, its the real heavy attack)

gl0ry

gl0ry

#10
Seems like avp has some type of memory leak.  As soon as I alt tab I also lose video.

Doesn't run as good as the demo did.

Edit: Dx9 version runs fine.

MrBrokenTusks.

MrBrokenTusks.

#11
Quote from: Cellien on Feb 16, 2010, 09:43:23 PM
Tim Jones of Rebellion had been talking about it working supposedly, however this does not seem to be the case.

Maybe it was to hard so they cut it out and didn't tell anyone hoping no one would notice because I doubt  a lot of people have the all that equipment

Dreamon666

Dreamon666

#12
Quote from: Caosss on Feb 16, 2010, 09:52:56 PM
Just saying, yes preds are more powerfull in melee, yes preds have more powerfull weaponry, yes preds are way slower than aliens.. Wait? Oh right, aliens are really fast, I think thats where the balance is. Also the alien heavy attack has a long range, I cant tell you how many times Ive heavy spammed preds to death (and Im not talking about the insta tail wall spam, its the real heavy attack)

Srry, but the heavy attack of preds goes just as far, and why can they knock us down and we can't on them? It's pure numbers and logic, they have more advantages over us.

But i have to say that the probs i have with them is with skilled players, but as a skilled alien player, iam no match for those discs and very heavy melee attacks, usually i get them because they unblock by accident.

Xhan

Xhan

#13
And vacuum dragon punch is back in full bro-force.

Also just lost all of current playtime's XP (7 hours) due to magic mid game syncing error caused by changing graphics settings in mid game. Awesome. How about turning autosyncing off, ya know, like real games.

Axlotl

Axlotl

#14
So I started the Marine campaign and the floor/ceilings never loaded and it lagged like crazy. I finished the Alien campaign without ever having any lag issues, and play online just fine also, so its got to be something specific to the marine campaign. I reloaded from the start and it didn't help.

Then the game crashed and deleted the avp.exe AGAIN.

Once I repair that I'm off to tinker with the graphical settings to see about getting the Rine campaign working.

Also, the sound stutters and locks up during all the movies. I only use onboard sound, so I'm not surprised, but if anyone knows a work-around, I'd be thrilled.

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