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Author Topic: Neill Blomkamp's (cancelled?) Alien 5 project  (Read 112335 times)


RakaiThwei
Feb 13, 2015, 02:06:13 AM
Reply #496 on: Feb 13, 2015, 02:06:13 AM
Sadly, we already have that and it's called Prometheus.



The Ninja Turtle of shameful defeat.. Again.

But no, what I mean is something which... is in loose continuity or rather an alternative. Prometheus is more or less an Alien Prequel, an indirect one but the connections are strongly there and the fact that Scott said it's in the same universe. I don't like it as much as you do, PredXeno but facts are facts.

Something which is removed from the main series and set's up it's own.. But if Weaver is gonna be a part of it, and this is the assumption this movie will be made.. and if it's a retcon or not.. We'll see.


Kelgaard
Feb 13, 2015, 02:23:11 AM
Reply #497 on: Feb 13, 2015, 02:23:11 AM
Why is a Ripley clone acceptable but a Hicks clone isn't?

Because the Ripley clone worked for story purposes as a means for the company to get their hands on the Alien. WHo would bother cloning Hicks and why?

Well Hicks did have contact with alien blood, and some have theorized he had a chest burster in him at one point.  Considering that Joss Whedon originally planned to clone Newt, I think Hicks is just as plausible.

But I'm not really pushing for this angle.  I'd rather see him in a straight up Aliens sequel.




predxeno
Feb 13, 2015, 03:42:29 AM
Reply #500 on: Feb 13, 2015, 03:42:29 AM
Sadly, we already have that and it's called Prometheus.



The Ninja Turtle of shameful defeat.. Again.

But no, what I mean is something which... is in loose continuity or rather an alternative. Prometheus is more or less an Alien Prequel, an indirect one but the connections are strongly there and the fact that Scott said it's in the same universe. I don't like it as much as you do, PredXeno but facts are facts.

Something which is removed from the main series and set's up it's own.. But if Weaver is gonna be a part of it, and this is the assumption this movie will be made.. and if it's a retcon or not.. We'll see.

I think I get what you mean, you're referring to Alien stories that take place in the universe but look at the world at a different angle, right?  I consider all EU canon so I already have many of these stories to look through. :D



CainsSon
Feb 13, 2015, 04:12:21 AM
Reply #502 on: Feb 13, 2015, 04:12:21 AM
you must not have played stasis inturupted

I haven't played it but i know all about it.  The way they shoe horned Hicks into that game was contrived and senseless.  It didn't further the plot or serve the story, it was just done for the sake of it.  Just so people could go "ohhh hicks is back, yeah!".  If they could come up with a novel way to reintroduce him to the series that's actually integral to the plot and not a blatant attempt to appeal to butt hurt fanboys I'd be all for it.

Blomkamp loves the metaphor of using an 'IMMIGRANT' as an 'ALIEN' and stressing that feeling of alienation... This makes me think he will certainly go with the Ripley 8 clone. A:R largely ended on that note when Ripley 8 states 'I'm a stranger here myself' she is stating that she has literally become an Alien to her own humanity and from her home 'Earth.'

I am thinking Blomkamp loves that idea.

Considering this^^^  and then taking into account that some time would have passed b/w A:R and Blomkamp's ALIEN: XENO, I can only assume that we will find Ripley as an alienated loner, at complete odds with the human race and possibly in existential crisis.

That said, if I had to guess, I'd  maybe go with Ripley 8 having something to do with Hick's cloning, in an attempt to find some kinship/test her attachment to another human?.. And of course, go all kamikaze and blow up Weyland Yutani headquarters together.

« Last Edit: Feb 13, 2015, 04:14:02 AM by CainsSon »

Tough little S.O.B.
Feb 13, 2015, 04:34:26 AM
Reply #503 on: Feb 13, 2015, 04:34:26 AM
The ADI effects guys need to stay away from any Alien sequels, unless Blomkamp really pushes them stylistically. The creature needs to go back into the shadows again. No more rounded teeth and excessive drooling.

They're starting to put their presence out there for this:



Tom Woodruff in Hicks' make-up. At the end of the day, their designs were the result of the directors wants/needs. They've made good Aliens - the Runner. In AR, it was within the context of the film that the designs be mutated. It's just descended into the AvPs using the old suits for cost saving.

Isn't Blomkamp pretty involved with WETA now-a-days? Considering how good his movies look, I wouldn't put it past them to have a gorgeous CGI Alien. I'd love to see the kind of slinking out of vents from Alien Isolation.

Who in his sane mind wants a CGI Alien?

I hope that they incorporate some of the concepts from Prometheus into Alien 5.  A large part of the film revolved around the Engineers using the black goo to transfer Alien genes into other organisms (ie. Worms, fifield, Holloway.) as a bioweapon.  Well what would happen if the Engineers discovered Ripley?  She has alien genes in her due to the cloning process, so what would the implications of that be? Would she be immune to the black goo?  I find the possibilities compelling.

shut up! someone can read it and have ideas!

« Last Edit: Feb 13, 2015, 04:44:16 AM by Tough little S.O.B. »

RakaiThwei
Feb 13, 2015, 04:45:00 AM
Reply #504 on: Feb 13, 2015, 04:45:00 AM
I think I get what you mean, you're referring to Alien stories that take place in the universe but look at the world at a different angle, right?

What do you mean by looking at it from a different angle?


CainsSon
Feb 13, 2015, 04:59:18 AM
Reply #505 on: Feb 13, 2015, 04:59:18 AM
I know this is getting way ahead of the game but -

I just had a thought:

I don't think you can do a Blomkamp film of ALIEN 5 correctly, without a near 2.5 hour runtime, like ALIENS.


Vrastal
Feb 13, 2015, 06:53:34 AM
Reply #506 on: Feb 13, 2015, 06:53:34 AM
I think I get what you mean, you're referring to Alien stories that take place in the universe but look at the world at a different angle, right?

What do you mean by looking at it from a different angle?

Idk what hes talkign about but what were talking about (at least myself) is a story of Aliens, that has nothing to do with ripley. they way Avp, Avp2, avp2010, and numerous comics that at most mention ripley in passing maybe or lv426.


A completely new ALIENS MOVIE without ripley, that isnt prometheous because thats its own thing now.

Aliens. no ripley, new story. new charterers.


JayHy17
Feb 13, 2015, 07:16:14 AM
Reply #507 on: Feb 13, 2015, 07:16:14 AM
I want this movie to happen. I don't care if it messes with the shit ass Alien 3 and AR. Blomkamps vision is what the Alien universe should be. Giger style.  Let's be happy this is even being discussed.


Corporal Hicks
Feb 13, 2015, 08:12:03 AM
Reply #508 on: Feb 13, 2015, 08:12:03 AM
Who in his sane mind wants a CGI Alien?

Someone who wants to see the grace of the Alien slinking out the vents in Isolation on film.

Idk what hes talkign about but what were talking about (at least myself) is a story of Aliens, that has nothing to do with ripley. they way Avp, Avp2, avp2010, and numerous comics that at most mention ripley in passing maybe or lv426.


A completely new ALIENS MOVIE without ripley, that isnt prometheous because thats its own thing now.

Aliens. no ripley, new story. new charterers.

Prometheus is not a standalone, it's a spin-off. Completely different thing (directed at PredXeno here). I completely agree with you in terms of the standalone.

« Last Edit: Feb 13, 2015, 08:13:46 AM by Corporal Hicks »

SiL
Feb 13, 2015, 08:32:12 AM
Reply #509 on: Feb 13, 2015, 08:32:12 AM
You can get the grace of the Alien slinking out of the vents with a guy in a suit on a wire -- So long as you get the right guy, a good suit, and a good team performing the stunt.

And Blomkamp favours practical over digital where possible.



 

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