The BBFC have officially rated AvPR as 15. No cuts have been made either and this is the same certificate as the first AvP. They also list the running time as 93m 37s. Presumably, that includes credits too.
I’m very disappointed. I really thought it would have been a sure 18.
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PMWho cares? Alien was re-released as 15 when the directors cut did its cinema rounds.
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 04, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Why are people bothered? We already know it's gory and has bad language. Are people angry purely because of the label 15? If so, that's ridiculous.
As I said, Alien was 15 when it was in cinemas a few years ago. We're getting the same film in all its adult detail. If it was exactly the same cut but someone randomly decided to give it an 18 it would make no difference.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
I'm learning a lot of people on the forums are under 17 lol.
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 06:41:54 PMQuote from: Lovely Man on Dec 04, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Why are people bothered? We already know it's gory and has bad language. Are people angry purely because of the label 15? If so, that's ridiculous.
As I said, Alien was 15 when it was in cinemas a few years ago. We're getting the same film in all its adult detail. If it was exactly the same cut but someone randomly decided to give it an 18 it would make no difference.
Alien hardly has any gore in, what do you expect?
The Predator movies would be an 18 even if they came out now.Quote from: Weasel on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
I'm learning a lot of people on the forums are under 17 lol.
Same here. It's pretty sad that people are only interested in being old enough to see it.
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:42:30 PM
No, no it isn't. Read the damn thread.
The uk has totally different age ratings.
We don't have "R"
The matrix was a 15 here, but my Matrix poster clearly says "rated R" on it.
I'm fine with this rating, Alien is a 15 (sadly so was avp) at least this means i can go and see it in the cinema now... :\ meh, you people in america arn't affected so i don't see why you should care.
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:44:32 PMQuote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:42:30 PM
No, no it isn't. Read the damn thread.
The uk has totally different age ratings.
We don't have "R"
The matrix was a 15 here, but my Matrix poster clearly says "rated R" on it.
I'm fine with this rating, Alien is a 15 (sadly so was avp) at least this means i can go and see it in the cinema now... :\ meh, you people in america arn't affected so i don't see why you should care.
I could easily get into a 18, but this news just has an 'AVP' round 2 feel to it.
QuoteSame here. It's pretty sad that people are only interested in being old enough to see it.
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:48:43 PMQuote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:44:32 PMQuote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:42:30 PM
No, no it isn't. Read the damn thread.
The uk has totally different age ratings.
We don't have "R"
The matrix was a 15 here, but my Matrix poster clearly says "rated R" on it.
I'm fine with this rating, Alien is a 15 (sadly so was avp) at least this means i can go and see it in the cinema now... :\ meh, you people in america arn't affected so i don't see why you should care.
I could easily get into a 18, but this news just has an 'AVP' round 2 feel to it.
I'm 16, I wouldn't be able to get into an 18... The odeon cinema is right across the road from me, they'd probably let me in, since they're losing customers to the new "Vue" cinema. I personally want to go to the Vue, nicer chairs, better quality, AWESOME sound. I'm happy i wont have to wait for a shitty rental copy or watch it online in a small streaming window...
This new rating has actually made me more excited for the movie, since theres no cuts, and it's exactly the same as what everyone else is watching with their "hard R" ratings, it's just that i can actually see it. :D
Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:53:54 PM
Like one of my friends your probably bigger, and look older than you really are. ;)
I on the other hand, bleh. Although i could probably make myself look 17 ish if i tried.
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
If you consider 5'10 "big" and shaves, then I'm lucky, no?
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 06:41:54 PMYou're right, Alien doesn't have that much gore in it. But it's generally considered to be the best of the franchise. So where's the problem?Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 04, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Why are people bothered? We already know it's gory and has bad language. Are people angry purely because of the label 15? If so, that's ridiculous.
As I said, Alien was 15 when it was in cinemas a few years ago. We're getting the same film in all its adult detail. If it was exactly the same cut but someone randomly decided to give it an 18 it would make no difference.
Alien hardly has any gore in, what do you expect?
The Predator movies would be an 18 even if they came out now.
Quote from: Master Chief on Dec 04, 2007, 07:01:43 PM
^ It has more gore than both Predators combined.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:31 PMYeah I feel old all the sudden. people always told me I'd get old too one day. never believed them.
I'm learning a lot of people on the forums are under 17 lol.
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:57:20 PMAhhh f**k, I'm still tall though :D And I'm getting a goatee(It might be full by January)Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:53:54 PM
Like one of my friends your probably bigger, and look older than you really are. ;)
I on the other hand, bleh. Although i could probably make myself look 17 ish if i tried.
That's me.
It probably means you'll be bigger than most when your 18. :DQuote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
If you consider 5'10 "big" and shaves, then I'm lucky, no?
6'2" "big" and shaves. :P
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 07:04:34 PMQuote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:57:20 PMAhhh f**k, I'm still tall though :D And I'm getting a goatee(It might be full by January)Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:53:54 PM
Like one of my friends your probably bigger, and look older than you really are. ;)
I on the other hand, bleh. Although i could probably make myself look 17 ish if i tried.
That's me.
It probably means you'll be bigger than most when your 18. :DQuote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
If you consider 5'10 "big" and shaves, then I'm lucky, no?
6'2" "big" and shaves. :P
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:06:14 PMI always wanted a goatee, like Christian Bale in the Machinist, only a little bit more trimmed. :PQuote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 07:04:34 PMQuote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 06:57:20 PMAhhh f**k, I'm still tall though :D And I'm getting a goatee(It might be full by January)Quote from: Huol on Dec 04, 2007, 06:53:54 PM
Like one of my friends your probably bigger, and look older than you really are. ;)
I on the other hand, bleh. Although i could probably make myself look 17 ish if i tried.
That's me.
It probably means you'll be bigger than most when your 18. :DQuote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
If you consider 5'10 "big" and shaves, then I'm lucky, no?
6'2" "big" and shaves. :P
I like to have a little stubble, nothing more.
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:03:42 PM
But Chief, is that a good thing?
(I have to call you Chief, it makes me feel like one of the hapless Marines that follow you round in the Campaign). :P
Quote from: Master Chief on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:24 PM;D ;D ;DQuote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:03:42 PM
But Chief, is that a good thing?
(I have to call you Chief, it makes me feel like one of the hapless Marines that follow you round in the Campaign). :P
You once asked me if more gore was a good thing. Only to some Aeus, only to some...(With the MC voice) ;)
Quote from: Dutch Schaefer on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:40 PM
UK are screwed!
They will get more of the "AvP 1" dose. ;D
What we will get is the really hardcore AvP R . ;)
Quote from: Master Chief on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:24 PMQuote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:03:42 PM
But Chief, is that a good thing?
(I have to call you Chief, it makes me feel like one of the hapless Marines that follow you round in the Campaign). :P
You once asked me if more gore was a good thing. Only to some Aeus, only to some...(With the MC voice) ;)
Quote from: Helikaon on Dec 04, 2007, 07:18:35 PMI wanted to say it!
None of the film has been cut ffs
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.
Quote from: Dutch Schaefer on Dec 04, 2007, 07:16:40 PM
UK are screwed!
They will get more of the "AvP 1" dose. ;D
What we will get is the really hardcore AvP R . ;)
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:11 PMQuote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.
Do you know the reasoning for it being 15 in the UK?
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:25:12 PMQuote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:11 PMQuote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.
Do you know the reasoning for it being 15 in the UK?
I don't know. I would say the movie is about as gory as Predator 1, so I'm not sure why the rating is at 15.
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:25:12 PMQuote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:11 PMQuote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.
Do you know the reasoning for it being 15 in the UK?
I don't know. I would say the movie is about as gory as Predator 1, so I'm not sure why the rating is at 15.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:29:53 PM
The gore in Predator is pretty tasteful in my opinion, the only thing that really made an impact in terms of gore was the skinned/gutted corpses of Hopper's team and Billy's spine rip. Considering we have all these "torture porn" movies out at the moment, if AVP-R is on the same level of gore as Predator then I think a 15 rating is about right.
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:32:33 PMQuote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:29:53 PM
The gore in Predator is pretty tasteful in my opinion, the only thing that really made an impact in terms of gore was the skinned/gutted corpses of Hopper's team and Billy's spine rip. Considering we have all these "torture porn" movies out at the moment, if AVP-R is on the same level of gore as Predator then I think a 15 rating is about right.
The spine rip is so well done. I hope there is one in AVPR.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:34:13 PM
Now that I think about that scene in particular, Predator may have recieved a higher rating due to violence against vultures. I wonder if Bill Duke really kicked one.
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
Quote from: SiL on Dec 04, 2007, 08:39:24 PM
That's because that's how long it is.
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 08:40:32 PMQuote from: SiL on Dec 04, 2007, 08:39:24 PM
That's because that's how long it is.
And it sucks ape balls.
QuoteAnd it sucks ape balls.
Quoteso thei hasnt been any cuts in it, but does this mean they've digitally removed blood, changed the color or whatever.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 08:58:27 PM
How in the living shit is this a 15s? its gore sick human gore, worst than some 18s films, ware's Colin, as something been changed, have they toned it down or something?
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
this is shit news, I have always wanted to watch an alien and predator film in the cinemas that was an 18 and now that I have past that age they turn it into a 15, stupid BBFC, oh great, that means there will be kids seeing this and more annoying kiddie fans >:(
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
this is shit news, I have always wanted to watch an alien and predator film in the cinemas that was an 18 and now that I have past that age they turn it into a 15, stupid BBFC, oh great, that means there will be kids seeing this and more annoying kiddie fans >:(
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 04, 2007, 09:15:01 PMQuote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
this is shit news, I have always wanted to watch an alien and predator film in the cinemas that was an 18 and now that I have past that age they turn it into a 15, stupid BBFC, oh great, that means there will be kids seeing this and more annoying kiddie fans >:(
This is what the whole concept is geared towards.
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PMYeah you're right, but even more in JP:TLW.
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:24:14 PMQuote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PMYeah you're right, but even more in JP:TLW.
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:26:34 PMQuote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:24:14 PMQuote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PMYeah you're right, but even more in JP:TLW.
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
yeah i could not believe it when i saw that bloke get eaten by the T rexs how they got away with that i dont know .
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 09:39:05 PMQuote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
What? Brett's death is much more bloody than the hole Jurassic Park.
Anywas the rating is 15? I find it strange. That means Colin there will be no child burst, nasty gory human deaths and other brutal stuffs...like the pregnant woman's death? ??? Im worried and i think im not the only one.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 09:28:42 PMGL uses Jedi mind tricks.Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:26:34 PMQuote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:24:14 PMQuote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PMYeah you're right, but even more in JP:TLW.
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
yeah i could not believe it when i saw that bloke get eaten by the T rexs how they got away with that i dont know .
Spielberg's magic words, he just used the Jedi mind trick on the film age certificate people.
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 09:39:05 PMQuote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 09:21:10 PM
And hers a fact there is more violence in Jurassic park than Alien.
What? Brett's death is much more bloody than the hole Jurassic Park.
Anywas the rating is 15? I find it strange. That means Colin there will be no child burst, nasty gory human deaths and other brutal stuffs...like the pregnant woman's death? ??? Im worried and i think im not the only one.
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:21:40 PM
No it wasn't, 15 all the way.
f**k yeah! I'm allowed to see it, January 18th will be the happiest day of my life!
Oh yeah, and 300 was "gory" and it still got a 15, so was Doom, and both had nudity!
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 10:03:45 PM
Colin What's the situation with those gory scenes? Are they still in the movie?
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:25:12 PMQuote from: Aeus on Dec 04, 2007, 07:22:11 PMQuote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
There is only 1 cut of the film that is being shown world wide.
Do you know the reasoning for it being 15 in the UK?
I don't know. I would say the movie is about as gory as Predator 1, so I'm not sure why the rating is at 15.
QuoteSheesh - and here was me looking forward to a kid free zone at the cinema!!
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:09:49 PM
Jesus titty f**king christ.
This film was passed
WITH
NO
CUTS
MADE.
Read.
Comprehend.
Respond.
OK now that I've cleared up that little gem;QuoteSheesh - and here was me looking forward to a kid free zone at the cinema!!
Yeah this is the only thing that annoys me. IF I decide to see this at the cinema I am going during the week and/or at a very late showing so there will hopefully be no school kinds. I havn't been able to see a film rated below 18 recently without school kids acting like retards in the cinema. There are always a few token morons whenever you go to the cinema but the chances are much higher the lower the rating.
Also: I don't understand the big deal about wanting to see an 18 rated film. Unless you're actually underage and wanted to feel hardcore by sneaking in, seeing an 18 rated film is not a big deal for people.
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:11:19 PMQuote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:09:49 PM
Jesus titty f**king christ.
This film was passed
WITH
NO
CUTS
MADE.
Read.
Comprehend.
Respond.
OK now that I've cleared up that little gem;QuoteSheesh - and here was me looking forward to a kid free zone at the cinema!!
Yeah this is the only thing that annoys me. IF I decide to see this at the cinema I am going during the week and/or at a very late showing so there will hopefully be no school kinds. I havn't been able to see a film rated below 18 recently without school kids acting like retards in the cinema. There are always a few token morons whenever you go to the cinema but the chances are much higher the lower the rating.
Also: I don't understand the big deal about wanting to see an 18 rated film. Unless you're actually underage and wanted to feel hardcore by sneaking in, seeing an 18 rated film is not a big deal for people.
agreed
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:04:53 PMQuote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 10:03:45 PM
Colin What's the situation with those gory scenes? Are they still in the movie?
look in this thread he has already commented
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:18:43 PM
saving private ryan was 15
Quote from: Dragon-Pred on Dec 04, 2007, 10:28:09 PM
Main reason for this 15 is there is prolly more pred and alien gore than anything else :-\
Quote from: pred_warrior07 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ATA/24818BP~The-Simpsons-Nelson-Haha-Posters.jpg
Quote from: pred_warrior07 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ATA/24818BP~The-Simpsons-Nelson-Haha-Posters.jpg
Quote from: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:29:36 PMQuote from: Dragon-Pred on Dec 04, 2007, 10:28:09 PM
Main reason for this 15 is there is prolly more pred and alien gore than anything else :-\
true, censors just dont like the colour red
QuoteI just hope that people in the cinemas complain about the violence, knocking the movie up to an 18s
QuoteI hope same goes for avp-r, i love movies that are not so Trendy.
Quote from: WeaponX on Dec 04, 2007, 10:32:37 PM
But from the trailers and Fangoria pic's, there is plenty of Human blood. I mean, look at the intestines of the women on the floor and the two heads getting blown off with the duel cannon's.
It's strange that it wasnt rated 18.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:33:18 PMQuoteI just hope that people in the cinemas complain about the violence, knocking the movie up to an 18s
Your profile says your 21. What satisfaction is there to be had from watching an 18 rated film at your age?QuoteI hope same goes for avp-r, i love movies that are not so Trendy.
AVP-R is attempting to appeal to an audience of 2-3 franchises (if you consider the AVP franchise as a 3rd entity) so of course it's going to be "trendy", it has a HUGE demographic to bring in.
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PMI'm a bit confused cause I think I've heard a few different things. anyone know if the 94 minutes is with or without credits?
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
QuoteThere is one thing! And this is a fact! In England almost always has a different movie version. An example: Star Wars Episode 2, Predator 1-2 DVD. The censors always edit the movies and cut out the gory scenes.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:51:43 PMQuoteThere is one thing! And this is a fact! In England almost always has a different movie version. An example: Star Wars Episode 2, Predator 1-2 DVD. The censors always edit the movies and cut out the gory scenes.
Star Wars Episode 2 was edited because of a headbutt. For some reason Headbutting is a huge issue with the BBFC. I have both Predator and Predator 2 on DVD and I havn't noticed any editing. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
I think this is the shortest of all the alien and predator films :o
Quote from: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:54:32 PMQuote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
I think this is the shortest of all the alien and predator films :o
joe pesci's short, you wouldnt mess with him :D ;)
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:53:06 PM
didnt you get predator when it first came out on dvd? , it was cut to ribbons, fox made a mistake lol i still have it too
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:51 PMQuote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:53:06 PM
didnt you get predator when it first came out on dvd? , it was cut to ribbons, fox made a mistake lol i still have it too
No I waited for the special editions.
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:59:41 PMQuote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:51 PMQuote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:53:06 PM
didnt you get predator when it first came out on dvd? , it was cut to ribbons, fox made a mistake lol i still have it too
No I waited for the special editions.
mate if u get the chance get it for the laugh, i was like wtf.. lol
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:51:43 PMQuoteThere is one thing! And this is a fact! In England almost always has a different movie version. An example: Star Wars Episode 2, Predator 1-2 DVD. The censors always edit the movies and cut out the gory scenes.
Star Wars Episode 2 was edited because of a headbutt. For some reason Headbutting is a huge issue with the BBFC. I have both Predator and Predator 2 on DVD and I havn't noticed any editing. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:00:35 PMput it this way all the gore was taken out even when dutch knifed that bloke and said stick around that was out here it is any how http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PREDATOR-1-2-BOX-SET-Ltd-Edition-18-cert_W0QQitemZ290187202981QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2288QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemQuote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:59:41 PMQuote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:51 PMQuote from: shakermakerman on Dec 04, 2007, 10:53:06 PM
didnt you get predator when it first came out on dvd? , it was cut to ribbons, fox made a mistake lol i still have it too
No I waited for the special editions.
mate if u get the chance get it for the laugh, i was like wtf.. lol
How bad is it, any screen examples?
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:58:23 PMQuote from: severen76 on Dec 04, 2007, 10:54:32 PMQuote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
I think this is the shortest of all the alien and predator films :o
joe pesci's short, you wouldnt mess with him :D ;)
I think hes funny... ;D
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 04, 2007, 11:07:58 PM
Why is it so hard to believe that the movie is violent and bloody, but got a 15 certificate?
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:06:13 PM
But this is still Strange.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
This work was passed with no cuts made!
So what the hell is that? This is say no cuts made and the movie is 15 and Colin told us there is only one version being shown word wide. Now what?
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM
I am unfamiliar with UK ratings but this doesn't make sense. If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:10:00 PMQuote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:06:13 PM
But this is still Strange.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
This work was passed with no cuts made!
So what the hell is that? This is say no cuts made and the movie is 15 and Colin told us there is only one version being shown word wide. Now what?
Its all the same version, its just the UK BBFC thinks this film should be a 15 and the USA thinks its should be an R rated movie is all.
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM
I am unfamiliar with UK ratings but this doesn't make sense. If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
Quote from: Gates on Dec 04, 2007, 11:15:48 PMQuote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PM
I am unfamiliar with UK ratings but this doesn't make sense. If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
I agree...I've always known that the UK in general is more lax when it come to violence, but a child chestbursting should really qualify as an 18...doesn't make sense...
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:22:23 PM
Stop replying to yourself, tool.
It's really not all that strange.
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:28:00 PM
I've seen the film so you don't have be ironic with your bold STRANGE. I've also seen the documentary on the MPAA which was only halfway entertaining. Anyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. I think it's gore level is more on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3 than OG Predator. No offense Colin.
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:28:00 PM
I've seen the film so you don't have be ironic with your bold STRANGE. I've also seen the documentary on the MPAA which was only halfway entertaining. Anyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. I think it's gore level is more on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3 than OG Predator. No offense Colin.
QuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.
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Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 11:29:53 PMQuote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:28:00 PM
I've seen the film so you don't have be ironic with your bold STRANGE. I've also seen the documentary on the MPAA which was only halfway entertaining. Anyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. I think it's gore level is more on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3 than OG Predator. No offense Colin.
Maybe I'm just getting numb to it, but I would agree that the movie has some f**ked up scenes in that would should be above the 15 rating. Oh well.... I guess that's better for us because it means more people can see the film in the theaters.
Quote from: Colin_Strause on Dec 04, 2007, 11:29:53 PMQuote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:28:00 PM
I've seen the film so you don't have be ironic with your bold STRANGE. I've also seen the documentary on the MPAA which was only halfway entertaining. Anyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion. I think it's gore level is more on par with Predator 2 and Alien 3 than OG Predator. No offense Colin.
Maybe I'm just getting numb to it, but I would agree that the movie has some f**ked up scenes in that would should be above the 15 rating. Oh well.... I guess that's better for us because it means more people can see the film in the theaters.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PMQuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.
The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PMQuote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PMQuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.
The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.
as well as Scott's ALIEN
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:37:17 PMQuote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PMQuote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PMQuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.
The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.
as well as Scott's ALIEN
So Alien was 15 in UK. Do you know if Brett Death scene was edited or not?
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:38:31 PMQuote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:37:17 PMQuote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PMQuote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PMQuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.
The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.
as well as Scott's ALIEN
So Alien was 15 in UK. Do you know if Brett Death scene was edited or not?
it was rated X back in 79, but 2003 directors cut was rated 15.
Quote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:38:31 PMQuote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:37:17 PMQuote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PMQuote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PMQuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.
The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.
as well as Scott's ALIEN
So Alien was 15 in UK. Do you know if Brett Death scene was edited or not?
it was rated X back in 79, but 2003 directors cut was rated 15.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 04, 2007, 11:40:10 PMQuote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:38:31 PMQuote from: csutkakoma on Dec 04, 2007, 11:37:17 PMQuote from: vehtam on Dec 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PMQuote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 04, 2007, 11:31:01 PMQuoteAnyway, I'm not a parent or anything but I disagree with the 15 rating. It's more R rated than 300 in my opinion.
The BBFC rated 300 as a 15 too.
as well as Scott's ALIEN
So Alien was 15 in UK. Do you know if Brett Death scene was edited or not?
it was rated X back in 79, but 2003 directors cut was rated 15.
But that was for the Halloween release, the film on the SE DVD is 18 again.
QuoteBut that was for the Halloween release, the film on the SE DVD is 18 again.
QuoteIn the case of videos and DVDs, which may be more accessible to younger viewers, intervention may be more frequent.
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 04, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
Why are people bothered? We already know it's gory and has bad language. Are people angry purely because of the label 15? If so, that's ridiculous.
As I said, Alien was 15 when it was in cinemas a few years ago. We're getting the same film in all its adult detail. If it was exactly the same cut but someone randomly decided to give it an 18 it would make no difference.
Quote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 12:49:49 AM
we all know its gory, violent has heaps of action,it's what everyone has been waiting for since avp, it's going to S**t all over AVP1 every one just relax, 20 days to go.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 05, 2007, 12:54:11 AMQuote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 12:49:49 AM
we all know its gory, violent has heaps of action,it's what everyone has been waiting for since avp, it's going to S**t all over AVP1 every one just relax, 20 days to go.
For us UK people, we have 6 weeks and 1 day to go :'(
QuotePredator isn't that gory. Not to todays standards.Sry, but thats just BS.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 01:15:56 AMQuotePredator isn't that gory. Not to todays standards.Sry, but thats just BS.
Quote from: Otnip on Dec 05, 2007, 01:18:51 AMQuote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 01:15:56 AMQuotePredator isn't that gory. Not to todays standards.Sry, but thats just BS.
Just an opinion, really
Quote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AMyeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
Quote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PMOoh, ooh! Not having an immature atmosphere, not using gratuitous CGI for gore - Although I realise that was pretty much out of anyone's control - emotional impact, visceral impact, good acting and that ... what's it called ... restraint! Yeah.
If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 01:15:56 AMQuotePredator isn't that gory. Not to todays standards.Sry, but thats just BS.
Quote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:55 AMQuote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AMyeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
Quote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:56:26 AMQuote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:55 AMQuote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AMyeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
I don't know what Greater Union is smoking, but every other Australian movie theater, (As well as the official Australian AVPR website) says December 16th, a day after the US.
Speaking of which, does anyone know what rating we're getting? I originally thought that it would be MA, but this news that it's about as bad as Predator 1makes me thing maybe just M.
Quote from: predatorlover on Dec 05, 2007, 08:26:27 AMQuote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:56:26 AMQuote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:55 AMQuote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AMyeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
I don't know what Greater Union is smoking, but every other Australian movie theater, (As well as the official Australian AVPR website) says December 16th, a day after the US.
Speaking of which, does anyone know what rating we're getting? I originally thought that it would be MA, but this news that it's about as bad as Predator 1makes me thing maybe just M.
i dunno wat YOU guys are smoking this time
its Dec. 26th
http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm# (http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm#)
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:31 AM
I'm betting on an M 15+ down here, although the 'shocking' kills might jack it up to MA 15+.
Quote from: predatorlover on Dec 05, 2007, 08:26:27 AMQuote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:56:26 AMQuote from: beeko on Dec 05, 2007, 03:24:55 AMQuote from: highlandpred on Dec 05, 2007, 02:52:15 AMyeah it's 27th jan you can check it on www.greaterunion.com.au
anyone confirm the aussie date for me? not sure now?
I don't know what Greater Union is smoking, but every other Australian movie theater, (As well as the official Australian AVPR website) says December 16th, a day after the US.
Speaking of which, does anyone know what rating we're getting? I originally thought that it would be MA, but this news that it's about as bad as Predator 1makes me thing maybe just M.
i dunno wat YOU guys are smoking this time
its Dec. 26th
http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm# (http://www.greaterunion.com.au/movies/6548/Alien-Vs-Predator-2.htm#)
QuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PMdont be pissed man
The BBFC (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/5CC31E8E6369542A802573A7005855E9?OpenDocument) added it to their site yesterday:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9646/00ep3.jpg
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AMQuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:31 AM
I'm betting on an M 15+ down here, although the 'shocking' kills might jack it up to MA 15+.
Quote from: csutkakoma on Dec 05, 2007, 11:38:51 AMUK sucks for tating great moviesQuote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AMQuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.
UK always has a different rating and sometimes a different cut of the movie. So don't worry about that. This is just they "exclusive" thing for them. No offense.
Quote from: predatorlover on Dec 05, 2007, 11:43:37 AMthats cause it happened in aussi...i thinkQuote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:31 AM
I'm betting on an M 15+ down here, although the 'shocking' kills might jack it up to MA 15+.
yeh nothing rarely becomes R rated in aussie.
except wolf creek :o
Quote from: StormPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:44:53 AMThat actually looks pretty good. :)
Still should have been this...
At least it's not been cut...I hope :-\(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg411.imageshack.us%2Fimg411%2F3660%2F18certia4.jpg&hash=37c8cb3114564e1a825f7dd992a3d3c9c5446114)
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:49:34 AMAnd what about the posters below? I did start a thread with these in but should have posted them here first, my bad. With an 18 cert stuck on it it looks alot more appealing in my opinion have would have gotten more arse's into cinema seats!Quote from: StormPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:44:53 AMThat actually looks pretty good. :)
Still should have been this...
At least it's not been cut...I hope :-\(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg411.imageshack.us%2Fimg411%2F3660%2F18certia4.jpg&hash=37c8cb3114564e1a825f7dd992a3d3c9c5446114)
Quote from: MartyPredator on Dec 05, 2007, 11:44:31 AMQuote from: csutkakoma on Dec 05, 2007, 11:38:51 AMUK sucks for tating great moviesQuote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AMQuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.
UK always has a different rating and sometimes a different cut of the movie. So don't worry about that. This is just they "exclusive" thing for them. No offense.
and cuts so much of the good bits and important bits in the movies
eg
when LotR return of the king came out i saw it 1st day...and the bitch(cant remember name) stabs the witch king in the face...she says i am no man..takes helment off....i am a woman...stab
they cut that out...ive got the special addition dvd of it and they dont have it on it
ffsQuote from: predatorlover on Dec 05, 2007, 11:43:37 AMthats cause it happened in aussi...i thinkQuote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 09:17:31 AM
I'm betting on an M 15+ down here, although the 'shocking' kills might jack it up to MA 15+.
yeh nothing rarely becomes R rated in aussie.
except wolf creek :o
Quote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 04:33:17 AMQuote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PMOoh, ooh! Not having an immature atmosphere, not using gratuitous CGI for gore - Although I realise that was pretty much out of anyone's control - emotional impact, visceral impact, good acting and that ... what's it called ... restraint! Yeah.
If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
"Restraint?" you say! "Bitch be crazy! Restraint doesn't give you a higher rating!"
Except for the fact that by withholding on some scenes you make others far more effective. It's the saturation effect. If you keep chucking gore and shocks at an audience, they're going to get real jaded real fast. I watched Hostel, the uncut version, all the way through, and by the time it got to the eye bit I just didn't give a damn anymore. But I showed the eye bit at the end to some people who hadn't seen the rest of the movie and they damn near threw up on the spot.
The ratings peeps take that kind'a stuff into account. High impact violence. If you have heads splattering and kids being killed and women being ravaged every ten minutes, shit, it just turns into farce. And these day every horror movie and its dog is trying to be 'shocking' and 'break the rules' by killing kids in increasingly nasty ways. We've seen it all before. It was vaguely effective the first time. It was laughable the following three hundred.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AMQuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.
Quote from: CloakedHunter on Dec 05, 2007, 12:29:59 PMQuote from: SiL on Dec 05, 2007, 04:33:17 AMQuote from: Crom on Dec 04, 2007, 11:12:35 PMOoh, ooh! Not having an immature atmosphere, not using gratuitous CGI for gore - Although I realise that was pretty much out of anyone's control - emotional impact, visceral impact, good acting and that ... what's it called ... restraint! Yeah.
If brutally killing women and children doesn't get you an 18, what does?
"Restraint?" you say! "Bitch be crazy! Restraint doesn't give you a higher rating!"
Except for the fact that by withholding on some scenes you make others far more effective. It's the saturation effect. If you keep chucking gore and shocks at an audience, they're going to get real jaded real fast. I watched Hostel, the uncut version, all the way through, and by the time it got to the eye bit I just didn't give a damn anymore. But I showed the eye bit at the end to some people who hadn't seen the rest of the movie and they damn near threw up on the spot.
The ratings peeps take that kind'a stuff into account. High impact violence. If you have heads splattering and kids being killed and women being ravaged every ten minutes, shit, it just turns into farce. And these day every horror movie and its dog is trying to be 'shocking' and 'break the rules' by killing kids in increasingly nasty ways. We've seen it all before. It was vaguely effective the first time. It was laughable the following three hundred.
Very well said. I completely agree. 8)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 01:01:48 PMAre you kidding? In 79 maybe the people threw up, there is much harder stuff out today and people dont throw up anymore.Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AMQuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.
...Have you not actually seen Alien?
http://www.nosolorol.com/revista/chestburster.jpg
http://www.bugsforthugs.com/wp-content/uploads/Alien_chestburster.jpg
http://www.ez-entertainment.net/zoneseye/alien_05.jpg
There's a reason that scene made people throw-up. Even the 15 aged re-release. Nothing in Predator compares to the CB.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:11:58 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 01:01:48 PMAre you kidding? In 79 maybe the people threw up, there is much harder stuff out today and people dont throw up anymore.Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 11:35:11 AMQuoteIt's not worth an 18 rating. Not anymore.Its even more worth an 18 today, todays movies are for candy asses, they dont show that brutality from the 80´s anymore. Alien is right for an 15, because besides the chestburster scene there is no gore in it. Predator has skinned bodys, arm blown off, plasma headshot with the blood going directly into the camera, hawkins guts in the bush and we get a good scene from him hanging in the trees, blain of course with a good closeup of his rip-cage, ice cold head shot to the hostage etc etc...
It is definitially woth an 18 worldwide.
The only films that are reaching the brutality of the 80´s are films like Hostel and Saw 3. Thats about it.
...Have you not actually seen Alien?
http://www.nosolorol.com/revista/chestburster.jpg
http://www.bugsforthugs.com/wp-content/uploads/Alien_chestburster.jpg
http://www.ez-entertainment.net/zoneseye/alien_05.jpg
There's a reason that scene made people throw-up. Even the 15 aged re-release. Nothing in Predator compares to the CB.
I watched it as a kid and it didnt effect me at all... but the skinned bodys and the ripped out spine did.
And those 2 pics are production pics and not even in the movie. The only thing that is in the movie is the pic in the middle, doesnt look that gory to be honest.
QuoteDude, nothing in Predator comes close to being as gory as Alien.Sry, but that actually made me laugh... :D
Quote from: TheUrbanPredator on Dec 04, 2007, 09:57:14 PMHaha, it's the part where Kid and Portman were looking for the scientists Portman spotted the female scientist naked, and he said "There is a God."Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 04, 2007, 06:21:40 PM
No it wasn't, 15 all the way.
f**k yeah! I'm allowed to see it, January 18th will be the happiest day of my life!
Oh yeah, and 300 was "gory" and it still got a 15, so was Doom, and both had nudity!
Doom had nudity in it? Which part? ???
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:11:58 PM
Are you kidding? In 79 maybe the people threw up, there is much harder stuff out today and people dont throw up anymore.
I watched it as a kid and it didnt effect me at all... but the skinned bodys and the ripped out spine did.
And those 2 pics are production pics and not even in the movie. The only thing that is in the movie is the pic in the middle, doesnt look that gory to be honest.
QuoteThe headbite. Gorier than the spine ripping.The 1 sec shot of the headbite is gorier then the spine ripping with the close up and the meat dripping of the skull? :o
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 02:57:34 PMQuote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:11:58 PM
Are you kidding? In 79 maybe the people threw up, there is much harder stuff out today and people dont throw up anymore.
I watched it as a kid and it didnt effect me at all... but the skinned bodys and the ripped out spine did.
And those 2 pics are production pics and not even in the movie. The only thing that is in the movie is the pic in the middle, doesnt look that gory to be honest.
Not at all. People threw up in the re-release of the Director's Cut. Something which Sir Ridley was quite proud of, if memory servers. The headbite. Gorier than the spine ripping. I would go over there and say it, but I have no doubt they'll mostly be stuborn fan boys such as yourself. And we all know what they're like.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 05, 2007, 02:44:22 PMQuoteDude, nothing in Predator comes close to being as gory as Alien.Sry, but that actually made me laugh... :D
It surpasses alien by miles, the blain scene with the ripcage is more brutal as the whole alien movie with all it´s scenes.
Please go to www.Aliensvspredator.de and say there that alien is gorier then predator, the guys will have a good laugh. ;)
Tell me when you said it there.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:02:48 PM
You mean the incredibly dark shot where you don't know it's blood for a bit? Oh yeah, was really disgusted at that. The explosion of blood and brain was nowhere near as gory. :o Go back to the forest of dellusions on the Yautja homeworld.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:06:22 PM
Headbite = explosion of brain and blood. Quite sure that shot is of up in the trees and the Predator is very shadowy and dark. If I had the DVD handy, I'd have a butchers.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:02:48 PMYeah, really dark. ::)
You mean the incredibly dark shot where you don't know it's blood for a bit? Oh yeah, was really disgusted at that. The explosion of blood and brain was nowhere near as gory. :o Go back to the forest of dellusions on the Yautja homeworld.
QuoteHeadbite = explosion of brain and blood.What? You really have to watch alien again, you can hardly see anything there.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 05, 2007, 03:08:33 PM
There's a distinctive loss of brain matter from both Brett and Parker when they're head bitten. It's all done with quick cuts though, no lingering shots.
I was pretty sure Johhny was your average troll but this thread makes me think that he genuinely beleives his own BS, and that is more frightening than the whole Alien franchise put together.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:13:27 PM
Holy shit. Look at that skull, it's gross! It's horrible! :o And it is dark. The meat doesn't look like meat, it looks like sea weed. The sound is disgusting you say? Might sound disgusting but it ain't visually gory. As for which headbite, Brett's DC one.
QuoteHoly shit. Look at that skull, it's gross! It's horrible!Yeah, just like bretts headbite is so gory and horrific... ly done. :)
QuoteIsn't the headbite the same in the DC and the theatrical version? I didn't notice any difference.Because there is no difference.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:19:29 PM
Brett's death is extended in the DC.
QuoteBrett's death is extended in the DC.Whoaaa, you can see some blood dripping from above with water...
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:13:27 PM
Holy shit. Look at that skull, it's gross! It's horrible! :o And it is dark. The meat doesn't look like meat, it looks like sea weed.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2007, 03:25:09 PM
I'll check it later. Waiting on SiL or SM, I imagine they'd know more. Only problem with this is, once again, it's all a matter of opinion.
^^ Never said it didn't. Thing is, it still looks and sea weed and it isn't disgusting.
Quote from: WisePredator on Dec 05, 2007, 02:45:16 PM
Haha, it's the part where Kid and Portman were looking for the scientists Portman spotted the female scientist naked, and he said "There is a God."
You must watch the film again.
Quote from: shakermakerman on Dec 05, 2007, 06:27:17 PM
Predator 2 was 15 but now its 18 ...wtf..
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 05, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
Predator 2 has always been 18.
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 05, 2007, 06:23:16 PM
I can't believe you guys are still arguing about this.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 04, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
I'm learning a lot of people on the forums are under 17 lol.
Quote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:46:21 PM
I definatly agree that Predator is gorier. Oh, and just for record, in Australia all of the Alien movies except number 4 is M, as well as the 1st Predator. The 2nd predator movie and Alien res were MA.
M=PG 13
MA=in between PG 13 and R
Quote from: gameoverman on Dec 05, 2007, 07:51:56 PMQuote from: Joshy boy on Dec 05, 2007, 07:46:21 PM
I definatly agree that Predator is gorier. Oh, and just for record, in Australia all of the Alien movies except number 4 is M, as well as the 1st Predator. The 2nd predator movie and Alien res were MA.
M=PG 13
MA=in between PG 13 and R
Alien 3 is also MA 15+ (http://www.classification.gov.au/special.html?n=46&p=156&sTitle=alien+3&sMediaFilm=1&sMediaPublications=1&sMediaGames=1&sDateFromM=1&sDateFromY=1970&sDateToM=12&sDateToY=2007&record=189720) - the dvd, anyway. The extended edition contained more violence.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 05, 2007, 08:21:02 PM
I heard that the aliens films are 12 in France, does anybody know if this is true?
Quote from: brad873 on Dec 05, 2007, 08:28:53 PM
this day and age, gore isnt a factor. if a movie is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeealy gory, and not much sex, most of the time it gets 15. usualy, any racist comments, hardcore sex, ect, gets it an 18. im glad that i will be able to see it now, im only 14, but i can pass ;D. anyway, i want to see it because its AVP, not because i can. but it better be good.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 04, 2007, 06:19:51 PMQuote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
I thought AVP was a 12a.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 07, 2007, 12:29:49 AM
Only correct if you're American.
Which, believe it or not, is only a fraction of the world!
*tap dances*
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 04, 2007, 06:19:51 PMQuote from: Darkness on Dec 04, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
I'm pissed off to be honest. I was sure it would be an 18. Instead it has the same certifcate as AvP. >:(
I thought AVP was a 12a.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 01:02:44 AMI concur.
No, it was a 15.
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 07, 2007, 01:13:58 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 01:02:44 AMI concur.
No, it was a 15.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 07, 2007, 01:17:01 AM
You got a source? Or this a "My memory thing"?
Quote from: SM on Dec 07, 2007, 01:26:05 AMI noticed when I did a search for "AvP" on this site it came up with all but one with "15" ...strangely enough the odd one out (second one down) is actually classified as "12". Ok strike my last comment as I finally managed to get into the site properly, the 12 rating is because its a trailer doesnt actually say that until you click on that link, but sometimes the corresponding links dont open.
%20contains%20"ALIEN")%20and%20((%20[TypeOfMedia]%20contains%20Film)%20OR%20(%20[TypeOfMedia]%20contains%20Video))&SearchMax=50]For what it's worth[/url}
(http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/SearchClassifiedWorks/?SearchView&Query=(%20%5BTitle)
Quote from: purebreedalien on Dec 07, 2007, 07:19:49 AM
Hmmm. I am 13. I will not be 14 until June next year. But I won't be leagally allowed to see it until 2009. By then AVP-R will no longer be in cinemas. So when it comes out I could go and see it in cinemas by pretending to be 15... But the real question is, will it work? Anybody?
Quote from: gases on Dec 07, 2007, 12:16:01 PMIn the UK, no.
yeah.. arent u alloud in with parents? even if R
Quote from: Lovely Man on Dec 07, 2007, 04:43:37 PMQuote from: gases on Dec 07, 2007, 12:16:01 PMIn the UK, no.
yeah.. arent u alloud in with parents? even if R
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 07, 2007, 04:46:48 PMI smell chavs!
...rowdy teenagers that can't keep off their mobile phones nevermind the 12a crowd.
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 07, 2007, 04:46:48 PMQuote from: Lovely Man on Dec 07, 2007, 04:43:37 PMQuote from: gases on Dec 07, 2007, 12:16:01 PMIn the UK, no.
yeah.. arent u alloud in with parents? even if R
Thank f**k, it's hard enough with rowdy teenagers that can't keep off their mobile phones nevermind the 12a crowd.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 07, 2007, 06:02:18 PM
Depends on where you go. I saw Beowulf and it was fine. Saw Spiderman 3 opening day and the crowd was shit.