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Posted by Slutty Badger
 - Sep 05, 2023, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: Still Collating... on Sep 05, 2023, 01:51:02 PMIt's not the prowler from Fireteam, can't be. Clara confirmed it. It just acts similar and the mix-up might have happened cause the new Xeno is not described well at all, not really specifically. And in the RPG scenario, one of the humans turned into the Alien from Covenant cause of the bombings (that also shouldn't be anywhere near possible). But we know it's not that specific type of Alien, it can't be. So the names, attacks and stats are probably just approximations for something similar so that the players have something to visualize.

That's my guess though.

Yeah, in EVAC one of the workers at Romashka Outpost, Alexi, is infected by the pathogen and is said to be mutating into a malformed Stalker, which is an adult Praetomorph.

I think if it were meant to be a mainline Xenomorph, the correct term would have been used. Same for the Imp (Praetomorph 'burster) in Fallout, which is said to have emerged from a rat. Guess Praetomorphs are getting around!
Posted by Still Collating...
 - Sep 05, 2023, 01:51:02 PM
Alex White's novels and Phalanx especially are perfect examples of how to breath fresh air into the novels. They are very creative and quite original in multiple regards, especially Phalanx, yet they don't really try to reinvent the Alien. They respected the creature and just threw it in special situations, and wrote interesting characters, settings, using the existing Alien in creative ways.

I liked most of Titan's stuff till recently. But they are having a loosing streak in my eyes. And that streak is becoming a trend. I hope the new movie and series do well so that it gives the books a direction where to go. I loved getting these books so frequently! But I'd rather wait for quality over quantity.

If good/original covers are so expensive, I'll take back the A:CM photoshop covers, just find and pay for good writers that actually like and understand the Alien and it's setting. I'll pay for a more expensive novel if it's done well. Just please no more of this ridiculous stuff.

And step up your proofreading, hire different lore consultants for second opinions and so on. Or hire previous authors that actually wrote good Alien books already. 



Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 05, 2023, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 05, 2023, 09:26:24 AMSure, but I'd argue that still applies to the DH Press books - especially the one with the Facehuggers that could fly and Aliens that rolled around like car tyres.

f**k I vaguely remember that getting memed, which book was it?

I need to see that meme! :laugh:

Quote from: Slutty Badger on Sep 05, 2023, 01:30:40 PMAlso, the red-shelled big cat Xeno in this novel is dubbed the "Prowler". Is it supposed to be the same beast as the Prowler from Fireteam, or is it just a case of unimaginative naming?

It's not the prowler from Fireteam, can't be. Clara confirmed it. It just acts similar and the mix-up might have happened cause the new Xeno is not described well at all, not really specifically. And in the RPG scenario, one of the humans turned into the Alien from Covenant cause of the bombings (that also shouldn't be anywhere near possible). But we know it's not that specific type of Alien, it can't be. So the names, attacks and stats are probably just approximations for something similar so that the players have something to visualize.

That's my guess though.
Posted by Slutty Badger
 - Sep 05, 2023, 01:30:40 PM
Also, the red-shelled big cat Xeno in this novel is dubbed the "Prowler". Is it supposed to be the same beast as the Prowler from Fireteam, or is it just a case of unimaginative naming?
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Sep 05, 2023, 12:54:35 PM
So do they in Titan Books.

Phalanx's big "oh shit" moment's literally the appearance of a Runner Alien.
Posted by SiL
 - Sep 05, 2023, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 05, 2023, 09:26:24 AMSure, but I'd argue that still applies to the DH Press books - especially the one with the Facehuggers that could fly and Aliens that rolled around like car tyres.
Ain't nobody defending DNA War.

But occasionally they let the Aliens be Aliens.
Posted by [cancerblack]
 - Sep 05, 2023, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 05, 2023, 09:26:24 AMSure, but I'd argue that still applies to the DH Press books - especially the one with the Facehuggers that could fly and Aliens that rolled around like car tyres.

f**k I vaguely remember that getting memed, which book was it?
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Sep 05, 2023, 09:26:24 AM
Sure, but I'd argue that still applies to the DH Press books - especially the one with the Facehuggers that could fly and Aliens that rolled around like car tyres.
Posted by SiL
 - Sep 05, 2023, 09:14:49 AM
I mean the creature itself, not the IP.
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Sep 05, 2023, 08:51:36 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 05, 2023, 01:55:52 AMThey really just don't seem to give a shit about it any more.
It's always been up and down. You had the DH Press Alien books which were almost universally shit, and then you have Titan who I still think have put out more good than bad - including the lion's share of the best Alien novels ever published imo.

It's just a shame we've had so many duds on the bounce lately.
Posted by SiL
 - Sep 05, 2023, 02:39:12 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 05, 2023, 02:23:45 AMWe need a hero to just describe the "new" creatures in the way one might describe runners but insist it's an OC and hope the boss never bothered with Alien 3.
Or just go for broke on your Monkey Gorilla Ox Alien shenanigans. Stop with the freaking neo-proto-ecto-mesomorph goo monsters.
Posted by [cancerblack]
 - Sep 05, 2023, 02:23:45 AM
We need a hero to just describe the "new" creatures in the way one might describe runners but insist it's an OC and hope the boss never bothered with Alien 3.
Posted by SiL
 - Sep 05, 2023, 02:08:18 AM
If the directive is to reinvent the wheel every time they make something, it's not cynical to say they don't really put much value in the original creature itself any more. If they can't just let it be, then it's fair to say they think it's cooked and need to keep spicing it up.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Sep 05, 2023, 01:58:20 AM
You are so cynical sometimes, as with unpolitical things, we need the middle ground.
Posted by SiL
 - Sep 05, 2023, 01:55:52 AM
Turns out Scott was right when he said the beast is cooked, at least as far as the IP owners are concerned. They really just don't seem to give a shit about it any more.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Sep 05, 2023, 01:50:05 AM
If I could give this a thousand likes I would.
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