Egg morphing and Alien director's cut can't be canon.

Started by Jonjamess, Nov 14, 2019, 08:29:23 PM

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Egg morphing and Alien director's cut can't be canon. (Read 5,700 times)

Jonjamess

Probably been discussed ages and ages ago but I'm watching Aliens now. Ripley says she doesn't recognise the hive structure. If Ridley's director's cut was canon she would recognise it.

FenGiddel

They just haven't gotten around to updating Aliens yet...

The Old One

The Old One

#2
Haha, Ovomorphing is canon- the DC isn't.

Local Trouble

She also didn't know where eggs came from in Aliens.

Huggs

Quote from: Jonjamess on Nov 14, 2019, 08:29:23 PM
Probably been discussed ages and ages ago but I'm watching Aliens now. Ripley says she doesn't recognise the hive structure. If Ridley's director's cut was canon she would recognise it.

Just the side effects of such an unusually long hyper sleep.

SM

Quote from: Jonjamess on Nov 14, 2019, 08:29:23 PM
Probably been discussed ages and ages ago but I'm watching Aliens now. Ripley says she doesn't recognise the hive structure. If Ridley's director's cut was canon she would recognise it.

Correct and correct, has been discussed ages and ages ago.

Quote from: FenGiddel on Nov 14, 2019, 11:46:57 PM
They just haven't gotten around to updating Aliens yet...

Also correct.  ;D

windebieste

Of course there's another way to look at it. 

When Scott re-introduced the eggmorphing scene, he retconned 'ALIENS'.

BWAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!  Hilarious. 

-Windebieste.

Drukathi

Tbh, the hive in Alien DC doesn't looks like the hive in Aliens. Ripley was right — she had never seen such a structure. She's just boring and pedantic. ;)

The Old One

The Old One

#8
True, it isn't as consistent.

SM

Quote from: Drukathi on Nov 15, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
Tbh, the hive in Alien DC doesn't looks like the hive in Aliens. Ripley was right — she had never seen such a structure. She's just boring and pedantic. ;)

It looks just like the hive in Aliens.

SiL

It really doesn't.




They're not completely dissimilar, but there's a lot more shape and flow to the Aliens hive than the roiling cancerous mess Ripley saw on the Nostromo.

Local Trouble

Wasn't the colony hive supposed be more evocative of the derelict though?

windebieste

The other consideration is Ripley doesn't know what an Alien egg looks like in ALIEN.  She has no correlation between Brett and Dallas fate and what they are becoming. As far as she is concerned, they're trapped and part of the hive mass. 

Ripley doesn't actually see an egg until a lot later in 'ALIENS' when she goes searching for Newt.  So no, she can't make a connection there.

-Windebieste.

PsyKore

Quote from: SiL on Nov 16, 2019, 05:50:38 AM
It really doesn't.

http://www.jamescamerononline.com/eggmrph.png


They're not completely dissimilar, but there's a lot more shape and flow to the Aliens hive than the roiling cancerous mess Ripley saw on the Nostromo.

There's no way she would outright say she doesn't know what it is though - the Aliens hive would definitely remind her of what she saw on the Nostromo. It doesn't need to be identical, but she'd be reminded about the weird foreign goop smeared over the walls and put two and two together.

Drukathi

Quote from: PsyKore on Nov 16, 2019, 08:43:54 AM
There's no way she would outright say she doesn't know what it is though - the Aliens hive would definitely remind her of what she saw on the Nostromo. It doesn't need to be identical, but she'd be reminded about the weird foreign goop smeared over the walls and put two and two together.
Quote from: Drukathi on Nov 15, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
She's just boring and pedantic. ;)

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