I've been playing about with VR and I have watched a few VR trailers. ( Conjuring 2 being a good one) and I have to say the presence and suspense in VR is mind blowing. I think this would work great for an alien film since it ticks all the right boxes... Now don't get me wrong I know people think VR is a bit of a gimmick, but if you never experience VR you cannot really judge it until you've tried it. Also just to note that VR trailers are not really like traditional trailers they are more like experiences then watching a standard trailer. Like if they do make one for Covenant, I can imagine it being that you are in the bowels of the Covenant and something is lurking in the background why it slowly creeps up on you and as you turn around the big old chap is right behind you. ( just think Dallas in the air duct scene in Alien)
Also just another question. When do you guys reckon we will start to see a standard trailer or a teaser for Covenant? I mean they have finished filming so I can imagine something popping up any day now.
That'd be awesome, I'd be down for something like that.
Quote from: Kimo on Sep 15, 2016, 07:09:22 PM
Also just another question. When do you guys reckon we will start to see a standard trailer or a teaser for Covenant? I mean they have finished filming so I can imagine something popping up any day now.
I'm hoping/expecting November/December time for the first proper trailer.
In regards to the topic, I don't know about VR trailer but I have heard there maybe something VR involved with the promotion. No further details though, I'm afraid.
I am so looking forward to seeing the first trailer for the movie. Standard or VR. I don't care which... Hell, bring 'em both on.
Either way. Can't wait. ;D
Just bring it!
-Windebieste.
It's been a while since they released any footage or information. Come on dudes; throw us a rib to chew on. Something alien related would be welcomed. Do we have to say please? :P
Personally, waiting for any reveals is the smarter strategy here. Prometheus's promo material revealed way too much. If they can build curiosity and suspense through minimalism then come movie time the wait will be worth it. Less than a year to go!
Im curious - what happens in a VR movie/trailer? Surely it must be highly interactive so that you can influence things and not just wrap-around vision (Augmented Reality)
I know Sony are wanting to bring out a VR model for gaming. Is it like the gaming version, but instead of influencing gaming outcomes, you influence movie outcomes?
Quote from: motherfather on Sep 19, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
Im curious - what happens in a VR movie/trailer? Surely it must be highly interactive so that you can influence things and not just wrap-around vision (Augmented Reality)
I know Sony are wanting to bring out a VR model for gaming. Is it like the gaming version, but instead of influencing gaming outcomes, you influence movie outcomes?
Some of the VR trailers I've watched, they sort of put u in the the film. Like if your looking through the eyes of either the main character or someone similar. In the Conjuring 2 you are in the girls bedroom and you can look around you. then suddenly shit will start to happen. Like if you watch the non VR trailer of the Conjuring 2, you will see a scene were a loads of crosses on the wall start to turn upside down. Well in VR you are in that room and as you turn your head you see crazy shit start to happen as well as the crosses on the wall moving... Also other stuff will start to happen. like you will hear someone or something behind you and as you turn around and the maybe a ghost behind you, Causing you to have a mini heart attack... Some VR trailers are better made then others. some VR trailers will trigger when you interact or look at certain things and some are timed. But overall it is a different type of experience and I hope VR trailers become more popular.
Now with Alien Covenant has the potential to do something good with VR.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 19, 2016, 08:11:29 AM
Quote from: Kimo on Sep 15, 2016, 07:09:22 PM
Also just another question. When do you guys reckon we will start to see a standard trailer or a teaser for Covenant? I mean they have finished filming so I can imagine something popping up any day now.
I'm hoping/expecting November/December time for the first proper trailer.
In regards to the topic, I don't know about VR trailer but I have heard there maybe something VR involved with the promotion. No further details though, I'm afraid.
Fingers crossed for the VR. I know the was one for the Martian however it was not the best VR trailer I've seen. it all depends on the budget they put towards the VR side of it and the dedication of the people that make it.
Quote from: Enoch on Sep 24, 2016, 10:13:50 PM
To keep things going in this absence of news :P
Well, Raffael Dickreuter served as VR Experience
Previs Lead on Alien: Covenant.
Its not much, but... better than nothing
Via Enoch in the Social Media thread.
Just got this e-mail from Fox regarding The Martian - VR Experience. Seems to be some sort of VR retelling of the film so perhaps this is what we have in-store for Alien: Covenant - VR Experience.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 15, 2016, 03:20:47 PM
Just got this e-mail from Fox regarding The Martian - VR Experience. Seems to be some sort of VR retelling of the film so perhaps this is what we have in-store for Alien: Covenant - VR Experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkUX4bJh5gM
Nice find, Hicks. 8)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 15, 2016, 03:20:47 PM
Just got this e-mail from Fox regarding The Martian - VR Experience. Seems to be some sort of VR retelling of the film so perhaps this is what we have in-store for Alien: Covenant - VR Experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkUX4bJh5gM
I remember a few months ago watching a VR trailer for The Martian on my S7 samsung phone. It wernt anything special, just a short low budget CGI video of you looking through the space suit why ur on the Mars surface. But looking at this new trailer looks like they put more effort in to it. will have to check this one out now I have a PSVR.
It would be great for those who have VR glasses, but what I would really like is for them to do some spots like Prometheus, showing David8 and the TED conference. They were so good they could be part of the movie.
They'll be some viral footage, don't worry! I know they've got some done.
The VR Experience is going to be a bit niche but I like they're doing it. Fortunately I have a friend who has one that I can use.
Awesome... I would love this, and hearing footsteps behind me turning around, and seeing a backburster chasing after me, or David 8 chasing me so he can experiment on me. 8) 8) 8)
No, not really interested in a VR trailer.
Went to check out The Martian VR for PS4 but notice it's like £15. Don't think I want to risk paying that price for what looks like a fancy tech demo that you will only play once. was hoping it was gonna be free to play or at least around the £5 mark. I hope Alien Covenant don't try this trick.. just do a simple VR trailer for Covenant like they did with the likes of the Conjuring 2 and The Avenger's without slapping a £15 price tag on it.
The Martian VR Experience is really not reviewing well. Pretty much the sentiment is you're paying way too much for, like you said, a tech demo. I really hope they learn from the feedback and make something better. Or at least price is properly.
It's like that "VR Worlds" for PSVR, it has some great VR experience on it. But the thing was like £25 on release date. That game should of been free with the VR because all the games feel like a fancy (but cool) tech demo. I just hope they don't start this bullshit with movies.
If the wanna charge for an Alien VR experience then give us a proper VR experience and give us something that has been built on the foundations of Alien Isolation.. I will then be happy to pay full price.
Could you imagine if they built it around an Isolation-like feel? I think I would literally die from fright. :laugh:
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 21, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Could you imagine if they built it around an Isolation-like feel? I think I would literally die from fright. :laugh:
Oh yeah. :laugh:
Quote from: Himmelblau on Nov 21, 2016, 04:05:41 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 21, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Could you imagine if they built it around an Isolation-like feel? I think I would literally die from fright. :laugh:
Oh yeah. :laugh:
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Quote from: Kimo on Nov 21, 2016, 01:35:03 PM
If the wanna charge for an Alien VR experience then give us a proper VR experience and give us something that has been built on the foundations of Alien Isolation.. I will then be happy to pay full price.
Well, there's been rumours (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=55274.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=55274.0)) that they are (or might be, rather) doing a VR version of Alien: Isolation. They actually had a VR demo of that game as well. At least then you know you'll be getting a proper and decent game along with the VR experience.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 21, 2016, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: Kimo on Nov 21, 2016, 01:35:03 PM
If the wanna charge for an Alien VR experience then give us a proper VR experience and give us something that has been built on the foundations of Alien Isolation.. I will then be happy to pay full price.
Well, there's been rumours (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=55274.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=55274.0)) that they are (or might be, rather) doing a VR version of Alien: Isolation. They actually had a VR demo of that game as well. At least then you know you'll be getting a proper and decent game along with the VR experience.
Yep I remember reading about it a few months back on this site, fingers crossed it does happen. I also remember watching some reaction video's on YouTube when the made a mod for Alien Isolation to run in VR on the Oculus Rift.
Just give us an official VR update for Alien: Isolation. I'd much rather have that. 8)
I think for a really good immersion, they'd probably need to rebuild from the group up with VR in mind.
I've played Isolation on the Occulus but it was essentially just a theatre mode. It didn't have the immersive effect that you'd really want.
Looking forward for this....
http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/alien-covenant-vr-experience-1201951388/
Interesting.. Def check it out!! 8)
http://deadline.com/2017/01/fox-plans-virtual-reality-experience-alien-covenant-1201877798/
Called it. :) http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/11/21/getting-alien-covenant-vr-experience/
Quote from: Prometheops on Jan 03, 2017, 06:32:39 PM
Looking forward for this....
http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/alien-covenant-vr-experience-1201951388/
Merged with existing thread. And thank you. :)
I don't expected it to be anywhere near as good as what a true Alien Isolation VR game could be like? But I hope it does better then "The Martian" that was released last month in the PSVR store. I just hope the really concentrate on the Alien(s) and the claustrophobic feel of being onboard the Covenant, why your inside VR. if they do it right I don't mind paying a few pound for a short tiny VR experience of getting confronted by the Alien on the Covenant. On the plus side.. If they give us a nice little scary tech demo or short experience, and it does well. Then Fox might push a mayjor game company to give a full VR Alien game like Isolation.
Hmm, not sure I fully get this. SO does one need VR goggles for this? If not, do you enjoy it on any game platform? If so, what do you do? You just get into the world like in Alien Isolation? You just walk around? That seems like the definition of boring. Why do that if you can just create a video game? I mean Isolation, and Colonial Marines were basically VR realities that we could walk around in and experience those worlds...
Sounds pretty cool, buuuuuuuuuuuut... I want Alien: Isolation VR. Started a second play through, and holy crap, I almost forgot what a masterpiece it is. I really hope they'll release a VR upgraded version. 8)
How would you make it a VR experience? Would you have to get a pair of glasses? I'm not up to date on the new tech.
Yes you will need a VR headset. This VR experience will most likely be on all platforms that supports VR. PlayStationVR, Oculus, Vive and probably high end mobile phones. It will either be a fancy interactive tech demo, were you see through the eyes of one of the crew members from the Covenant, and you get to interact with your surroundings using hand controllers or a typical control pad, why you briefly explore the Covenant or the Juggernaut... (Just think of a very short 20 minute Alien Isolation type of game. but made for VR) Or it will be a movie Trailer made for VR. With VR Trailers they Usually take a popular part of the main trailer and let you be apart of it. Just think of that scene with the Back Burster, but your in that room and you can see full 360 by moving your head around why the dude is about to back burst.
If it's a VR trailer the give us, then that will be Free but if it's more of a interactive experience then that will most likely come with a small price tag.
Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on Jan 04, 2017, 03:28:08 AM
Sounds pretty cool, buuuuuuuuuuuut... I want Alien: Isolation VR. Started a second play through, and holy crap, I almost forgot what a masterpiece it is. I really hope they'll release a VR upgraded version. 8)
same here! i recently got the PSVR and while theres a ton of worthwhile content, what i REALLY want is to be able to playthrough Isolation.
I've not got a VR rig myself but I know a few fans who thankfully have so I should get to experience this! I'm looking forward to giving it a go. If it's like The Martian, it'll only be a short experience but hopefully it'll still be good.
Like you guys though, I hope it does lead into something more substantial like a proper Alien: Isolation VR. I've played it on a virtual theatre, so to speak, and it was cool but it's just not the same as something designed around VR from the ground up.
cool VR game
If they mix it with a Resident Evil 7 style that would be awesome.
Walking through the ships and grabbing what you want or puting on what you want.
a spacesuit and when you go outside, the visor gets a little cloudy etc etc
But i do think you need to have headphones for the full element, sound is very important, and stereo or tv sound doenst always cut it, headphones bring more to the game.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 04, 2017, 08:59:12 AM
Like you guys though, I hope it does lead into something more substantial like a proper Alien: Isolation VR. I've played it on a virtual theatre, so to speak, and it was cool but it's just not the same as something designed around VR from the ground up.
I know what you mean. I've played the non VR Resident Evil7 Demo on the PSVR cinematic mode and it added a little bit more tension and paranoia to it. But when they updated the Resident Evil 7 demo last month to run in VR it was miles better and you feel like your in the rooms. Can't wait to play the whole game later this month. :)
I bet Isolation in real VR will be scary as f**k. I would like to try Alien Isolation on the cinematic mode on my PSVR but my copy of Alien Isolation is on my Xbox. But defo be getting this covenant VR when it's out.
Imax to Open VR Experience Center in Los Angeles This Week!!
They are also opening one in London, and this could be great to debut Covvie VR!!
http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/imax-los-angeles-vr-center-1201952532/ (http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/imax-los-angeles-vr-center-1201952532/)
I have never experienced this awesome tech yet. .vr sounds like something that would cause a stiffening in my pants. .it's probably super expensive tho. .whats the cost and is it supported by windows/pc? My understanding of the tech is that it's similar to watching a 3d movie, but with 360 view and u can interact with the invironment. .not sure how acurate i am. .also unlike prometheus, covenant was not shot in 3d. .why?. . Just curious?
Covenant was shot in 3D. With even better cameras.
And no Russell Crowe or Cate Blanchett in front of them. *drinks more alcohol*
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 04, 2017, 11:24:07 PM
Imax to Open VR Experience Center in Los Angeles This Week!!
They are also opening one in London, and this could be great to debut Covvie VR!!
http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/imax-los-angeles-vr-center-1201952532/ (http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/imax-los-angeles-vr-center-1201952532/)
Interesting. Hopefully they'll put the Covvie one out in London.
Quote from: juxtapose on Jan 05, 2017, 04:23:26 AM
I have never experienced this awesome tech yet. .vr sounds like something that would cause a stiffening in my pants. .it's probably super expensive tho. .whats the cost and is it supported by windows/pc? My understanding of the tech is that it's similar to watching a 3d movie, but with 360 view and u can interact with the invironment. .not sure how acurate i am. .also unlike prometheus, covenant was not shot in 3d. .why?. . Just curious?
VR is like looking in to another world with a diving mask on. When you move your head, the virtual world turns with you. Also with some of the VR headsets, you can even move your head forward and take a closer look at things. And you also get the 3D effect as well as 360. Infact the 3D is better then watching 3D on a TV or cinema screen because each eye is seeing its own unique view of that image/video.
I will try and break it down for you.
Cheap VR is basically Google Cardboard were you plug ur phone in to a cardboard box that has lenses. You can watch VR movie clips and play basic VR simulations that you can get mostly free from the google Play app store. This is basically a cheap way to get a taste of VR... BUT do not judge the technology on Google cardboard, because this is a gimmicky type of VR that has problems, like bad tracking and motion sickness.. You will need an half decent phone to run this technology and you can buy the cardboard to go with your phone from Google or Ebay and it is very very cheap to get.
I also think Google recently have or are planning to release a better version of this tech to go with there new Google phone?
Next up is Samsung VR.
You need one of the high-end mobile phones like a samsung S6/S7 and you then need to buy the samsung Oculus headset, that cost about £60 to £80. You can get cheaper version's of the headset. but the official, Samsung headgear has extra sensors in the headset making it more smooth and stable when moving your head around in VR. This version of VR is miles better then Google cardboard, it's probably the best way to play about with VR on the cheap since it's so easy to get a high end phone on contract these days.
I tend to use my S7 in VR more then my PlayStation VR because your not tethered to a PC or a PlayStation witch makes it the best for watching 3D movies on a massive virtual IMAX screen. Sometimes I like to chill and put an app on called GrooVR and listen to my favourite music why Planets and other crazy shit fly's around me in a Tron type of world. It's also one of popular devices for watching VR porn for people who are in to that. And the are plenty of games and other apps on the market to play about with. However don't expect games to look graphically equal to the higher end VR systems.
This if you buy outright will cost you anywhere from £300 to £600 depending on your phone and headset. Mine cost me when I bought it back in July was £560 for Samsung S7, £80 for Oculus Samsung head Gear. I also bought a control pad that works great for about £50 however you can get cheaper control pads.
PlayStation VR
This will be the most popular VR headset since a lot of people already own a PS4 in there home. Playstaion VR is mostly for games, but you can tinker about and watch films on it if you upload files by USB to your PlayStation4 hard drive. The games look good, but don't expect them to look as nice as your PlayStation running on your 50" 4K TV... You can also use the Move wands, that act like hand controllers. This definitely add's more realism to some of your game's especially when firing guns. However you don't need PlayStation Move hand controllers to use VR, but they are definitely recommended. You will need a Playstaion camera for the VR headset to work. Price is about £200 for a PS4, £350 for a PSVR headset, and about a extra £50 for your camera and move controllers. This might look expensive when adding up all the price. But still alot cheaper then high-end VR.
Oculus Rift.
Is basically similar to PSVR but your using a high-end PC to play your games. The games will look nicer and the headset will slightly have a sharper field of view. However just like PSVR and the mobile phone versions of VR, it is a seated experience. Cost of a high-end PC to run oculus Rift will set you back £1000 to £1500 and then you will need the oculus Rift that will cost around £350 to £400.
HTC VIVE.
Same as Oculus you will need a high end PC to run. However if you have the playing space in your room you can actually walk about in the real world making you move in the VR world. Also I hear that the vive hand controllers are the best. The price is similar to the oculus maybe a £100 to £200 more but you still gonna need that expensive PC to run it.
You can download software to see if your PC is compatible to run Oculus or Vive.
Anyhow hope that clears afew things up.
wow this is so cutting edge. . Thanks kimo for the informative read. . I don't have that type of money right now. . But i am definately gonna look into it. .new tech is always expensive.. .i bet the price is gonna drop as this new tech evolves. .gonna wait a while. . It sounds amazing tho!
Quote from: juxtapose on Jan 06, 2017, 04:14:21 PM
wow this is so cutting edge. . Thanks kimo for the informative read. . I don't have that type of money right now. . But i am definately gonna look into it. .new tech is always expensive.. .i bet the price is gonna drop as this new tech evolves. .gonna wait a while. . It sounds amazing tho!
Year one new consumer technology is always expensive. This technology, will only get cheaper and better over the next few years.. VR is definitely cutting edge, but it's not going to take over traditional gaming or watching a regular TV screen overnight. However it's definitely, not a gimmick like 3DTVs or Xbox Kinect was. When I got a Kinect for my 360 I played it for one weekend and never played it ever again. My Xbox One Kinect I never even took out of the box. VR at the moment is more of a weekend treat rather than a daily experience, because sometimes after finishing work you just want to put your feet up and play regular video games then being stuck in VR. But one thing about VR is I always enjoy going back to it after a few days or a week without playing. However that might change for me when Resident Evil7 is out later this month. :) And the is another similar technology that's going to be released very soon and that is Augmented Reality. But that's a whole different kettle of fish. ;) The future looks like it's going to be crazy.
I am very genuinely curious about this. This seems neat!
Bit of extra VR related intel:
QuoteIn the second half of 2016 Zerply helped with post production talent for the following feature films Alien Movie UK: Covenant (2017), Allied (2016), Assassin's Creed Movie (2016), Beauty and the Beast (2017), Captain Underpants (2017), Doctor Strange (2016), Hidden Figures (2016), Marvel's Legion (2017), The Nut Job 2 (2017), Power Rangers Movie (2017), Richard the Stork (2017), Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017), to mention the more prominent ones. Besides that many intriguing VR experiences, games, TV shows, and a good handful of commercials for brands like Honda, Oculus and others.
Zerply had artists fly across the world helping studios in: Australia, Belgium, Canada, Finland, Singapore, South Korea, Sweden, United Kingdom & USA.
We doubled the salary for at least 2 of the artists. But hopefully made life, at least a bit, better for many of the project-based workforce in entertainment.
Best of all, we are just scratching the surface, go team Z
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QuoteAMD's Corporate Vice President of Alliances, Roy Taylor, announced on his twitter that the company will be working together with 20th Century Fox on the production of the upcoming Alien: Covenant VR Experience.
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