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Title: The Predator Rating
Post by: Tetsujin on Aug 21, 2018, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Aug 21, 2018, 09:13:05 AM
https://drafthouse.com/new-braunfels/show/heroes-and-fantasies-presents-the-predator

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R
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 21, 2018, 10:02:01 AM
Thought I'd split this off now and get a new thread going.

I just checked the BBFC and that hasn't been updated. I don't think the MPAA has a website listing ratings?


I take it back -

https://twitter.com/FilmRatings
https://www.mpaa.org/film-ratings/
https://filmratings.com/

The Predator isn't on there yet, though.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Vermillion on Aug 21, 2018, 01:14:24 PM
PG-13 or AA in North America
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 21, 2018, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 21, 2018, 01:14:24 PM
PG-13 or AA in North America

What are you talking about ?
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Aug 21, 2018, 01:38:12 PM
He's trolling, as usual.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: goose_3387 on Aug 21, 2018, 02:01:29 PM
UK - 15 or 18?
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 21, 2018, 02:11:19 PM
I expect 15 over here.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: The Old One on Aug 21, 2018, 02:18:15 PM
Rarely we get an 18 over here.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 21, 2018, 02:19:25 PM
In France it's usually 12 or 16.

For example, Predator 1 & 2 are 12 over here.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Tetsujin on Aug 21, 2018, 02:32:51 PM
Russia 

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18+


Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 21, 2018, 02:46:54 PM
Seems we are not easily shocked in France compared to other ratings lol
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Danversity on Aug 21, 2018, 05:40:11 PM
I'm thinking 16 in Brazil. Predators got 14.
There are some R movies that got 12 already, rating here makes no sense.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: MudButt on Aug 22, 2018, 04:45:19 PM
The Predator (2018)
Sci-Fi Action   Fox   9/14/18   R   strong bloody violence, language throughout, and crude sexual references

via: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=mpaa&p=.htm
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Tetsujin on Aug 22, 2018, 04:53:47 PM
Incredibly!
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: TERMINATOR-SSD on Aug 22, 2018, 05:35:04 PM
was just about to say it will be a 15 in the UK for sure. A film to get an 18 in the UK has to be real ott gore, strong sex reference or drug use is what gets an 18 in the UK. Which is fine. Just hope it's a good film and a worthy Predator film. 
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Tetsujin on Aug 22, 2018, 05:59:50 PM
Paint 3D

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:)
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: N-Shifter on Aug 22, 2018, 06:36:38 PM
Perfectly rated, as all things should be (wrong franchise :P )
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Wysps on Aug 22, 2018, 07:57:08 PM
Quote from: Tetsujin on Aug 22, 2018, 05:59:50 PM
Paint 3D

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:)

I wouldn't expect anything less lol.  Nice job, btw.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 22, 2018, 08:52:08 PM
Very good, but i just hope we don't slip in AVP:R territory in terms of gore, over the top and sometimes goofy scenes, or just plain generic. Give me something worth remembering, like the first two movie's gore ! Gory, but not totally unbelievable and bland.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Tetsujin on Aug 22, 2018, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Aug 22, 2018, 07:57:08 PMNice job, btw.

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: irn on Aug 22, 2018, 10:29:10 PM
Good news!
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Aug 22, 2018, 10:34:30 PM
There was never a Doubt in mind mind if this would be Rated-R
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: andreaNZ on Aug 23, 2018, 12:21:05 AM
yes def strong bloody violence to  a Predator or two grrrrrr
i wont be watching those scenes,..bring on the human carnage though!!!!
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Really on Aug 23, 2018, 02:46:29 AM
This comes as a shock?  I remember Shane saying pg 13 is for pussies. I really hope Paul Anderson read that
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: MaXenaeL on Aug 23, 2018, 03:59:37 AM
Oh yeah, at last! Bored of PG-13  ;D
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Huggs on Aug 23, 2018, 04:14:29 AM
Quote from: MaXenaeL on Aug 23, 2018, 03:59:37 AM
Oh yeah, at last! Bored of PG-13  ;D

R should be the new pg-13. Or just get rid of pg-13 altogether.  A movie should either be child-friendly (like the incredibles) or not (everything else). These little undamaged 13-17 year old minds are watching horror films, playing doom, and F' ing each other out over xbox live. They can handle alittle cussing and violence in a movie. It's time Hollywood got with the program. G and R ratings, that's all we need people.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Carmen on Aug 23, 2018, 12:25:58 PM
Shane, you're really pushing it! What the heck has happened to you?!
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Carmen on Aug 23, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
As a European, I don't care for the reasons why the film has been rated R in the US (that was to be expected).
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 23, 2018, 12:42:12 PM
Quote from: Carmen on Aug 23, 2018, 12:25:58 PM
Shane, you're really pushing it! What the heck has happened to you?!

How/why is he pushing it?

Quote from: Carmen on Aug 23, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
As a European, I don't care for the reasons why the film has been rated R in the US (that was to be expected).

I'm also European. However, it's interesting because it offers an expectation of what rating to expect in our respective reasons.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Vermillion on Aug 23, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
R rating.  Nice! 
Will it limit its box office or improve it?
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Danversity on Aug 24, 2018, 01:20:11 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 23, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
R rating.  Nice! 
Will it limit its box office or improve it?

Limit it, but R rated films are budgeted with that in mind.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Wysps on Aug 24, 2018, 03:38:27 AM
Quote from: Danversity on Aug 24, 2018, 01:20:11 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 23, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
R rating.  Nice! 
Will it limit its box office or improve it?

Limit it, but R rated films are budgeted with that in mind.

Right. Plus, for the franchise's integrity, it kind of has to take the hit in that regard  :-\
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: The Old One on Aug 24, 2018, 01:05:54 PM
Tell that to Deadpool.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Vermillion on Aug 24, 2018, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 24, 2018, 01:05:54 PM
Tell that to Deadpool.
Completely different genres. 
Like way off
Like nowhere near
Like not even in the same ballpark

Marvel vs Predator.  Lol lol lol
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: von on Aug 24, 2018, 04:25:23 PM
Agree that Predator shouldn't be compared to Deadpool and Logan but Fox is definitely now more confident in putting out R-Rated films. Sadly, now that Disney will have the final say on Predator, ....
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: The Old One on Aug 24, 2018, 04:38:54 PM
The point is R-Rated films on a low budget can make bank.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Danversity on Aug 24, 2018, 09:10:15 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 24, 2018, 01:05:54 PM
Tell that to Deadpool.

Deadpool is the highest-grossing R rated movie in history, and it didn't make it to $800 million worldwide. It's a massive success, especially considering its budget, but again, it's the highest-grossing one. For a big budget PG-13 comic book movie in the veins of the MCU, DP's worldwide gross would be a big hit, but nothing absolutely groundbreaking. Logan, which I imagine is a movie The Predator is closer to in terms of budget, is another massive hit as an R rated movie and it grossed $619 million. So yeah, the R rating does limit the film's gross, but they are budgeted accordingly to that.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: SiL on Aug 24, 2018, 09:41:08 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 24, 2018, 04:38:54 PM
The point is R-Rated films on a low budget can make bank.
Only in the same way as lower rated films: mass appeal. Predator doesn't have it and never has.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Still Collating... on Aug 25, 2018, 03:05:48 PM
Of course it's possible The Predator might do extremely well, but the truth is predator is not as popular as any superhero movie. Deadpool and Logan showed us that the R rating doesn't have to be an obstacle for massive success but they bear no certainty for other R rated movies. The thing that makes me optimistic is that The Meg is doing well and if I'm not mistaken, it also has an R rating? 
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 25, 2018, 03:11:32 PM
No, meg is pg13
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Danversity on Aug 25, 2018, 06:24:32 PM
Oh I wish The Meg was a rated R movie...

I'm sure that The Predator will do well. Marketing's been great, release date is no less than perfect with absolute zero competition, even if it's not as popular it is a recognizable brand, people are excited, runtime is ideal, and no one makes a fun movie like Shane Black. Action packed, terror, scary creatures, clever humor, it surely will draw people to see it. All that's missing is good reviews and we're done. No reason for this to fail.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Still Collating... on Aug 25, 2018, 11:03:55 PM
Damn, mistaken on Meg.

I really hope our optimism is justified. As said, the conditions are all there, all that's left is for the movie to be good and well received.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Wysps on Aug 26, 2018, 12:35:48 AM
And to use the power of individual marketing. We fans need to do our part too, right?
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Vermillion on Aug 26, 2018, 01:02:40 AM
The Meg has done over 350$ million worldwide!! Wow
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Huggs on Aug 26, 2018, 03:26:08 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 26, 2018, 01:02:40 AM
The Meg has done over 350$ million worldwide!! Wow

Gonna need around 400mil to break even, if I remember correctly. And it's really starting to level out. I don't see it going any higher than 400.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Mr.Turok on Aug 26, 2018, 11:01:42 PM
After seeing that one soldier's throat being snached via shuriken, had no doubt it would go R.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Highland on Aug 27, 2018, 02:07:47 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 26, 2018, 03:26:08 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 26, 2018, 01:02:40 AM
The Meg has done over 350$ million worldwide!! Wow

Gonna need around 400mil to break even, if I remember correctly. And it's really starting to level out. I don't see it going any higher than 400.

$400 to break even? How does that even work? It's got Jason Statham and a big CGI shark.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Huggs on Aug 27, 2018, 04:28:36 AM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 27, 2018, 02:07:47 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 26, 2018, 03:26:08 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 26, 2018, 01:02:40 AM
The Meg has done over 350$ million worldwide!! Wow

Gonna need around 400mil to break even, if I remember correctly. And it's really starting to level out. I don't see it going any higher than 400.

$400 to break even? How does that even work? It's got Jason Statham and a big CGI shark.

From what's being said, it has now reached 400 million. So even has been broke I'd say. Glad to see it succeed. But it's a shame it wasn't made as a more serious movie on a smaller budget. such a high return might have lead the studio to do a sequel. But, per your question, I submit the following from Wikipedia:

"With a production budget between $130–178 million, and another $140 million spent on advertisement, the film needed to gross at least $400 million in order to break-even."

And another:

"The studio spent $140 million on global prints and advertisement for the film"

This was not a low budget movie, and advertising for it was through the roof.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Highland on Aug 27, 2018, 04:48:43 AM
Seems like a crazy risk to spend $300 mil on a shark movie. I guess somebody nailed it somewhere.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Huggs on Aug 27, 2018, 04:55:55 AM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 27, 2018, 04:48:43 AM
Seems like a crazy risk to spend $300 mil on a shark movie. I guess somebody nailed it somewhere.

After what happened to Guy's King Arthur, I had a hard time believing Warner Bros. invested such money in a shark movie starring J.S.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Highland on Aug 27, 2018, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 27, 2018, 04:55:55 AM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 27, 2018, 04:48:43 AM
Seems like a crazy risk to spend $300 mil on a shark movie. I guess somebody nailed it somewhere.

After what happened to Guy's King Arthur, I had a hard time believing Warner Bros. invested such money in a shark movie starring J.S.

I actually liked that movie....
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Huggs on Aug 27, 2018, 07:47:42 AM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 27, 2018, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 27, 2018, 04:55:55 AM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 27, 2018, 04:48:43 AM
Seems like a crazy risk to spend $300 mil on a shark movie. I guess somebody nailed it somewhere.

After what happened to Guy's King Arthur, I had a hard time believing Warner Bros. invested such money in a shark movie starring J.S.

I actually liked that movie....

Me too. If it had been a more reasonable budget though, I think it would've turned out more like the scorpion king. All that extra money very likely saved the film.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Wysps on Aug 27, 2018, 01:51:07 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 27, 2018, 04:28:36 AM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 27, 2018, 02:07:47 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 26, 2018, 03:26:08 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 26, 2018, 01:02:40 AM
The Meg has done over 350$ million worldwide!! Wow

Gonna need around 400mil to break even, if I remember correctly. And it's really starting to level out. I don't see it going any higher than 400.

$400 to break even? How does that even work? It's got Jason Statham and a big CGI shark.

From what's being said, it has now reached 400 million. So even has been broke I'd say. Glad to see it succeed. But it's a shame it wasn't made as a more serious movie on a smaller budget. such a high return might have lead the studio to do a sequel. But, per your question, I submit the following from Wikipedia:

"With a production budget between $130–178 million, and another $140 million spent on advertisement, the film needed to gross at least $400 million in order to break-even."

And another:

"The studio spent $140 million on global prints and advertisement for the film"

This was not a low budget movie, and advertising for it was through the roof.

It's easy to forget, imo anyway, that the total budget includes advertising and marketing for the film. Makes it so much more costly  :-\ Now I can see why people get worried when films don't use a lot of advertising - could be that the studio is anticipating diminished returns and doesn't want to spend anymore on it. Thankfully, I don't see it in this case.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Firestorm on Sep 02, 2018, 10:57:27 PM
Rated 15 here in the U.K, going by Cineworlds current listings.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Danversity on Sep 03, 2018, 12:55:33 AM
According to IMDb it got 18 here in Brazil, which is shocking me. Without any drugs or nudity, this thing has to be REALLY violent to have gone up to 18. Predators itself was a 14.

Could be wrong tho, we'll see about that.
Title: The Predator BBFC Rating 15 for strong bloody violence, gory images, language
Post by: Wobblyboddle77 on Sep 03, 2018, 11:15:27 PM

Hi Everyone,
              Long time lurker here again, the UK ratings body, the bbfc have rated The Predator 15 for strong bloody violence, gory images, language, which isn't too surprising considering that's the rating most studios target nowadays, there doesn't appear to be any pre-cuts either and the website has the film run time at 107 minutes. The film is also available in 3D and there is a break down, but spoiler warning, it may be best to avoid that, below is the direct link to the rating.
                                               
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/predator-2018

                                                                       Kind Regards
                                                                      Wobblyboddle
Title: Re: The Predator BBFC Rating 15 for strong bloody violence, gory images, language
Post by: Ramjet311 on Sep 04, 2018, 12:52:15 AM
It still hasnt been classified in Australia, and tickets still aren't available. Very strange 🤔🤔
Title: Re: The Predator BBFC Rating 15 for strong bloody violence, gory images, language
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 04, 2018, 07:35:06 AM
Quote from: Wobblyboddle77 on Sep 03, 2018, 11:15:27 PM

Hi Everyone,
              Long time lurker here again, the UK ratings body, the bbfc have rated The Predator 15 for strong bloody violence, gory images, language, which isn't too surprising considering that's the rating most studios target nowadays, there doesn't appear to be any pre-cuts either and the website has the film run time at 107 minutes. The film is also available in 3D and there is a break down, but spoiler warning, it may be best to avoid that, below is the direct link to the rating.
                                               
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/predator-2018

                                                                       Kind Regards
                                                                      Wobblyboddle

Thanks Wobbly. I've merged this with the existing rating thread. A 15 was pretty much what I was expecting.
Title: Re: The Predator Rating
Post by: Ramjet311 on Sep 05, 2018, 10:23:53 PM
MA15+ in Australia, for Strong Violence. 107 minutes