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Wow, that's some advanced-looking Pred armor!
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 13, 2018, 01:35:28 AM
Wow, that's some advanced-looking Pred armor!
Looks different than the one in the trailer, especially the bio mask
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That's some good looking armor. The breastplate kind of looks superhero-ish in a way... otherwise I'm digging it.
Hmm, will the captured Predator have two sets of armor?
Even less tribal influences :( it'll work, but not a fan.
And it is a statue, not having the same finish as the movie ones.
I like it, I prefer the tribal, but this looks cool also.
Is it supposed to be female?
No. There are literally no indications that it is a female.
It looks like it's wearing a bra!
The suit itself kind of reminds me of the x-men for some reason. Perhaps it's sleekness. Although it looks totally fine. Just needs a little battle wear.
That must be the Marvel Edition :D
Might join the Avengers in the next movie ;D
looks a bit different than what we have been seeing in the trailers
Interesting! Of course I am missing the old tribal design from the 2-nd movie, but to be honest the First movie didn't have much of tribal look, only trophies and the fabric covering his behind were indicating a little bit of tribal thing, but overall the first design was pretty much sci fy design of the 80, so this desing kind of goes with the first movie. Also they did keep the overall desing of the lower leg armor from the first movie ;) . The only my feedback for this design is symmetry. If it was asymmetric like the first two movies it would look more interesting in my opinion. But I like it, especially counting the movie quality lighting and painting would be much better then on this statue. ;)
Are we sure this is the captured predator? I feel like this is one of the emmisaries (spelling?)... The armour to me just has a slight human-made vibe to it
Also I am happy they not using any predator shoes, first movie used some type of sadels and it was cool, second one used nothing, but damn AVP, and Predators went full SHOE thing))))
I have to say, I like it (wouldn't had said that earlier).
I also prefer the tribal looking armor and yes, this is some kind of superhero armor but...I like it. :)
I am sure it's captured armor, the statue just doesn't look like the props in the movie, but desing is there, helmet, chest armor, gauntlets. It's just has less quality painting, material feel and i think less details then the movie one.
Looks quite militaristic to me - more armour. It's not a casual suit, it's not half a uniform to go hunting with, but armoured to go and deal with a f**king big problem. I like the bigger coverage of the body. I continue to dig the mix with the gold.
Not a massive fan of lots of armour, as i quite like the insectoid/lizard features of the Predator body. But they managed to have lots of armour and keep it sleek and elegant looking, which is cool.
If the AvP Predators looked anything like this, i would have been very pleased.
Perhaps that is the armor of a military service in Predator culture. Heck, I wonder if Predators have more than one culture in their society. We are famous for making entire alien species one dimensional. They could be thinking about making the first predator's poachers and this new class are the game wardens. Hence there more formal attire vs rugged outdoors man.
I still really love the design of the mask. Less keen on the body suit. As others have said, it looks like something out of a superhero movie, which isn't really a look I'd want in a Predator movie. It's not awful, but I don't love it.
Also whiterabbit's right, it definitely looks like it's wearing a bra :laugh:
Not going to lie folks , after coming full circle and defending the film during the heat of the backlash , this has knocked my confidence a bit , that design is dam right ugly to me , it's far too removed from winstons designs. It just looks plain and boring. Not alien enough , for me , the originals were something of a work of art, everything gelled and just looked right. And this isn't it unfortunately. Even the AVPs and super predators still kept in line with the originals . It feels like something neca would of come up with, I feel very let down now we have a proper look at the design. >:(
I do like the helmet , but the armour looks terrible.
I'd like to see graffiti and personal mods. Hell, just give one Hick's armor vest, time to bring up some cross-over stuff :D
Looks atrocious .. press the self destruct buttons lady!
Really happy with the design. Looks very intimidating.
Nothing tribal or anything that says hunter about the look of this Predator. No bones or trophies, looks like its female. Not feeling it or into the look....I want the of the past movies P1, P2, And Predators
Aside from mask it dosent look very predator. I don't see preassure cables either, oh well I guess he'll put mask on and off like in Ps. Shame cause I love those little things that made the creature so believable in first place.
Quote from: Master on Jun 13, 2018, 10:22:15 AM
Aside from mask it dosent look very predator. I don't see preassure cables either, oh well I guess he'll put mask on and off like in Ps. Shame cause I love those little things that made the creature so believable in first place.
While i agree that those little details add to the believability, it's been a while since they last visited. Look at our tech today, stuff that was sci-fi yesterday is reality today.
I like to think that they advance as well, and even much faster = less cables, for example. That's the whole point of this movie "you think you know the Predator? Well guess what, they moved on".
And after the 6th movie, i think that's totally ok.
Also note: This statue is
not screen accurate, it's a fun marketing gimmick for a cool selfie and that's it.
ELDERCLANLEADER - Oh man, so finally you wake up a little bit, lol. Because this new design is just ugly and boring as you said, at least I truly hope that all that Yellow parts will not be in the movie, that Yellow color made him looking like some sort of sport racer or something, Jesus Christ. . how much I hate that! So, Yellow color after all? This design is both mechanical and futuristic to me, its just a couple of bland metal pieces connected together, no little details here, no scars or visible damage as some sort of various scratches etc. No little skulls, bones or smaller attachments. I can understand that these Predators belong to a different clan, so they can of course look different, I get that. But on the other hand, it really looks empty, something is just missing here. Stan Winston Predators was the best, I have entire Clan of Predator figures from P2, I look on them right now. If you try to compare these two designs (old and new) its like going from top to the ground. I have hard feel that previous Predators was more Predators than these new Predators, now they are more like "cyborgs" if you know what I mean by that. Just remind yourself the Battle Armored Predator figure from NECA, it has very, very similar design, and I have some respect for it, but its not my cup of tea, you know. And now when I look at all these Yellow parts, I have to admit that I want to puke! its ugly af. Nothing against the movie itself, but this is just too much for me. :-X
Is this the same pred as we saw in the trailer? Doesn't look like it. This one looks like a mix between Iron Man/Power Rangers. I don't like the suit and the color.
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 13, 2018, 10:48:58 AM
Is this the same pred as we saw in the trailer? Doesn't look like it. This one looks like a mix between Iron Man/Power Rangers. I don't like the suit and the color.
Yes, he is the Captured...seen in the trailers.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 13, 2018, 10:54:18 AM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 13, 2018, 10:48:58 AM
Is this the same pred as we saw in the trailer? Doesn't look like it. This one looks like a mix between Iron Man/Power Rangers. I don't like the suit and the color.
Yes, he is the Captured...seen in the trailers.
If that is how the predator will look then I'm not digging it. Looks to much like a cyborg predator to me.
I don't think the painting job, lighting and material represented very well here, I mean in the movie it will look different, from my personal thoughts and expirience of seing this stuff out of the movie. So it's why I am nto so nervous, because in the trailer, and on the Time magazin shots predator looked very nice.
Indeed. While I still like what we're seeing (there's not been a Predator suit I dislike tbh), it's important to note that these aren't being shown in the lighting condition they were built for.
Idk but it looks nice imo, but I think it would look better if it had silver lines than the yellow ones.
Lolz at that lady's caption. I want a pic next to it! :( :P
So we won't get a Classic Predator this time? I had assumed the Captured Predator was going to be the Classic
Quote from: von on Jun 13, 2018, 11:52:29 AM
So we won't get a Classic Predator this time? I had assumed the Captured Predator was going to be the Classic
I don't think we get the classic suit, but we get the classic look without the helmet judging by the trailer
I don't hate it, I think it's pretty cool. I feel like it looks like it'd be worn by a Predator set in a time line closer to Aliens though.
I could totally see this guy in an AVP game/comic hunting USCM troops.
All those golden touches ! And funny how some people complain about this one as if it will be in the movie just like this :laugh:
Don't everyone saw the trailers with proper lighting and finition to the costume ? Do you really think it looked like that seriously ? People please :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Hmm...This one looks quite different from the one we saw in the trailers, the biggest difference I can tell are the mask (especially the mouth piece), and waist armor which this one doesn't seem to have.
Bigdaddyjohn I hope so ... not digging captain underpants otherwise !! ;D
I don't hate it but it does look more "uniform" compared to other designs I've liked, which can make sense depending on if we find out what the Predator's goal is before coming to earth. However, it looks much cooler in the trailer and in the Empire Magazine pic. This isn't as quality as what they'll put in the actual film.
Trash
Sounds like something was also shown during Fox's presentation at the event. Haven't seen any descriptions though - https://deadline.com/2018/06/james-cameron-avatar-sequels-update-fox-bohemian-rhapsody-stacey-snider-cineeurope-1202409053/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
QuoteOther films in the spotlight included Shane Black's The Predator; animated pic Spies In Disguise starring Will Smith; and Fox/Marvel's next X-Men installment Dark Phoenix.
Captured probably finds whatever he can arm himself to escape- he's not going to have trophies, maybe this armor is the best for a rambo-esque escape
That chest armor is looking very female
Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jun 13, 2018, 02:10:08 PM
That chest armor is looking very female
Indeed it does.
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horrible
I like it a little bit more now that there's better images of it.
In the trailer it looked much better. This one I can't stand it. f**king Power rangers
Very Egyptian looking, it looks good in action, that's the main thing.
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 13, 2018, 02:55:49 PM
Very Egyptian looking, it looks good in action, that's the main thing.
It looks great in the trailer in my opinion. The gold was less obvious in it but some trailer uploads completely change the color of the Predator's mask in the thumbnail images. I wonder if the gold will be more obvious in the daylight scenes.
I expected this type of look after seeing the small glimpse on the making of / art book cover. That image was very dark but the hints of a very tactical and modern suit were there. The texture of the chest armor matches up with the trailer suit.
With that said:
Everything we've seen has been slightly different from one suit to the next. The predator in the trailers doesn't seem to have this gold trim, and here on this statue I don't see the samurai inspired armor hanging around the waist like in the Empire photo. Not to mention, the photo from the APC scene, where the armor on those two is also completely different.
I don't even dislike this as much as a lot of others seem to but we don't know if this is in the film 100% as it stands here, if it's a different predator from the main one, or if it is a variation of the main design used only for promo. I'm curious to see what we get in the film, to say the least.
After pausing the trailer scenes again for another look, there's certainly close similarities on most of it. You can see those odd block shapes on top of his shoulder armor when he's holding up Holbrook in the trailer, that all looks the same. I had never even noticed them until this photo.
I'll continue to judge based on the actual footage in the trailers. But I'd say this is at least close to what we should expect to see, if not exactly it.
I have a Stargate vibe from this photo
Why can't they just stick to basics? What's so damn hard about it? Just do a predator 2 suit but modify the helmet, and change small stuff on the suit and that's it. Instead they make an extreme makeover and gives us ironman / Power Rangers. Avp gave us bodybuilders as predators with roaring sound like a damn Lion. Jesus. Let's hope it will look better in the movie.
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 13, 2018, 02:55:49 PM
Very Egyptian looking, it looks good in action, that's the main thing.
Yeah it does look very Egyptian in that picture. Looks awesome.
It's a display so of course the gold is going to be more vibrant to attract attention.
Wasnt it stated a few times that captured has a "standard issue" set of armor? Something mass produced for pred military?
This seems to fit that and it looks good.
Hakuna your matata's friends, this is a cheaply made statue which does little else than give a far from finished impression. Not too keen on the design choices, but the final product will look greatly better.
sure it's not the real deal, but still feels a bit off.
The masks propositions make the head look insectoid. The yellow parts are straight out from a transformer movie, also it lacks the tribal feeling. Anytime felt like aomething menacing and sg that doesn't belong in the jungle...yet with the slight touches of tribal accessories (and the acting, mostly) he made one feel like he really is a demon from earth.
This one makes me feel like it's some type of battle droid. Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the movie to succeed, and I'm positive about it. But I don't feel like I could be as attached to this design as I was for the first 2 movies. Even if it's a great movie, with design like this it can be a mediocre predator film for me. But we'll see, I'll judge when I see it :)
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 13, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
Why can't they just stick to basics? What's so damn hard about it? Just do a predator 2 suit but modify the helmet, and change small stuff on the suit and that's it. Instead they make an extreme makeover and gives us ironman / Power Rangers. Avp gave us bodybuilders as predators with roaring sound like a damn Lion. Jesus. Let's hope it will look better in the movie.
They're made to suit the director's request. Anderson wanted some heavily set, heavily armoured Predators as he thought they'd take more to deal with the Alien. I'm sure we'll be finding out what Black asked them to do with this one.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 13, 2018, 04:04:55 PM
Wasnt it stated a few times that captured has a "standard issue" set of armor? Something mass produced for pred military?
Not that I can recall but that's actually how I'm thinking about it.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 13, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 13, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
Why can't they just stick to basics? What's so damn hard about it? Just do a predator 2 suit but modify the helmet, and change small stuff on the suit and that's it. Instead they make an extreme makeover and gives us ironman / Power Rangers. Avp gave us bodybuilders as predators with roaring sound like a damn Lion. Jesus. Let's hope it will look better in the movie.
They're made to suit the director's request. Anderson wanted some heavily set, heavily armoured Predators as he thought they'd take more to deal with the Alien. I'm sure we'll be finding out what Black asked them to do with this one.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 13, 2018, 04:04:55 PM
Wasnt it stated a few times that captured has a "standard issue" set of armor? Something mass produced for pred military?
Not that I can recall but that's actually how I'm thinking about it.
Well, it wouldn't hurt if they just asked the fans what they want or atleast try to cooperate with fans.
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 13, 2018, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 13, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 13, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
Why can't they just stick to basics? What's so damn hard about it? Just do a predator 2 suit but modify the helmet, and change small stuff on the suit and that's it. Instead they make an extreme makeover and gives us ironman / Power Rangers. Avp gave us bodybuilders as predators with roaring sound like a damn Lion. Jesus. Let's hope it will look better in the movie.
They're made to suit the director's request. Anderson wanted some heavily set, heavily armoured Predators as he thought they'd take more to deal with the Alien. I'm sure we'll be finding out what Black asked them to do with this one.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 13, 2018, 04:04:55 PM
Wasnt it stated a few times that captured has a "standard issue" set of armor? Something mass produced for pred military?
Not that I can recall but that's actually how I'm thinking about it.
Well, it wouldn't hurt if they just asked the fans what they want or atleast try to cooperate with fans.
Why not, but being realistic forces us to admit that we can't agree on what we really want most of the time, without mentioning of course ideas that sound ridiculous quite easily sometimes also. So i'm not sure that would be a better option.
Hmmmmmmmm... ::)
I know this isn't the actual suit but an interpretation for display... but damn, it looks nothing like a Galaxy hunter. Where's the trophie bandoliers? The tribal look is gone. Looks nothing like a "hunter" of worlds. :-
Ladies and gentlemen, we are looking at Cyrax (Mortal Kombat)
I personally think that it all depends from the movie and Predator's action, if he will be presented well in the movie and going to kick ass with very nice action scenes, people will start growing to the new design. Problem is that everybody already feels that the first predator design was the best, which in my opinion is biased, because of the status of the movie(classic). I personally love city hunter design the most, and really got tired from the classic look, even so I like it too. Not fan of this desing on this photos, but in the tailers he looks bad ass. If the movie going to be good and Predator going to get as much cool action as he got in first two movies, I am sure people will start liking this design. Also I understand why they not going tribal, of course part of the reason is new director, but also this franchise need to go new directions, to actually grow and not become a stale water. Of course it's a lot of risk and I feel nervous too, but everything can change, even the lore of Predators. It all depends from the final prduct. BTW didn't like any desings of predators since second movie, and I think part of the reason is because predators themselfs were lame lately. ;)
Fingers crossed this is just one of infinite tribes...
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 13, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 13, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
Why can't they just stick to basics? What's so damn hard about it? Just do a predator 2 suit but modify the helmet, and change small stuff on the suit and that's it. Instead they make an extreme makeover and gives us ironman / Power Rangers. Avp gave us bodybuilders as predators with roaring sound like a damn Lion. Jesus. Let's hope it will look better in the movie.
They're made to suit the director's request. Anderson wanted some heavily set, heavily armoured Predators as he thought they'd take more to deal with the Alien. I'm sure we'll be finding out what Black asked them to do with this one.
I'm feeling like we're going to be introduced to the Enforcer class in this movie, in which case I'd expect the armor to be more militaristic/advanced. I don't remember it being mentioned anywhere, but the armor is definitely giving off that "official" vibe.
It's the Predator Space Cops. Somebody in Predator culture has to uphold the law.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 13, 2018, 07:35:48 AM
Looks quite militaristic to me - more armour. It's not a casual suit, it's not half a uniform to go hunting with, but armoured to go and deal with a f**king big problem. I like the bigger coverage of the body. I continue to dig the mix with the gold.
I've done my share of complaining about the sleek, modern look of the new armor and how I prefer the original organic tribal feel, but this is a good point. I still don't love the armor, but I can accept this theory.
Also, I previously rolled my eyes a bit at people pointing to this pred in the trailers and saying it looked female... but honestly, now that we have a clear full photo, I might have to eat my words because it really does give a feminine impression. Surely that wouldn't be on accident. I'd be totally cool with that, and am just grateful they didn't put her (if it is a her) in some sexy cleavage-baring nonsense. I know captured was referred to as "he" in the NBA spot, but the scientists might very well not know the sex, and people often use he as a generic pronoun. Or I could be speculating over nothing and the breastplate looks the way it does unintentionally!
Quote from: Lefty on Jun 13, 2018, 03:00:33 PM
I expected this type of look after seeing the small glimpse on the making of / art book cover. That image was very dark but the hints of a very tactical and modern suit were there. The texture of the chest armor matches up with the trailer suit.
With that said:
Everything we've seen has been slightly different from one suit to the next. The predator in the trailers doesn't seem to have this gold trim, and here on this statue I don't see the samurai inspired armor hanging around the waist like in the Empire photo. Not to mention, the photo from the APC scene, where the armor on those two is also completely different.
I don't even dislike this as much as a lot of others seem to but we don't know if this is in the film 100% as it stands here, if it's a different predator from the main one, or if it is a variation of the main design used only for promo. I'm curious to see what we get in the film, to say the least.
where did you see the art book?
Frenchfries you can find small black and white image of the cover of the art book here on this site somewhere in the news section, it was like few months ago
When I see this, I get a Predator suit designed by Wakanda sort of vibe.
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Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 13, 2018, 08:18:39 PM
where did you see the art book?
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 13, 2018, 08:23:43 PM
Frenchfries you can find small black and white image of the cover of the art book here on this site somewhere in the news section, it was like few months ago
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/03/17/art-and-making-of-the-predator-cover-shows-new-predator-design/ (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/03/17/art-and-making-of-the-predator-cover-shows-new-predator-design/)
Here you go.
Strange I feel like captured didnt have this lower leg armor in the trailer
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 13, 2018, 08:44:27 PM
Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 13, 2018, 08:18:39 PM
where did you see the art book?
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 13, 2018, 08:23:43 PM
Frenchfries you can find small black and white image of the cover of the art book here on this site somewhere in the news section, it was like few months ago
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/03/17/art-and-making-of-the-predator-cover-shows-new-predator-design/ (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/03/17/art-and-making-of-the-predator-cover-shows-new-predator-design/)
Here you go.
thanks. I'm getting some old school Kenner figures vibe from that prop statue. the armor and the predator looks way better in the trailers
I really like this Predator design, I've wanted a more armored Predator for a long time, so this is a satisfactory design. Only minor gripe I have is the lack of full body netting.
Still, overall 8.5/10 design.
Ha and they said the AVP Preds had too much armor. :D
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 13, 2018, 10:07:10 PM
Only minor gripe I have is the lack of full body netting.
The netting is there, just you can't see it over the full body due to the full body armor.
Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 13, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 13, 2018, 08:44:27 PM
Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 13, 2018, 08:18:39 PM
where did you see the art book?
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 13, 2018, 08:23:43 PM
Frenchfries you can find small black and white image of the cover of the art book here on this site somewhere in the news section, it was like few months ago
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/03/17/art-and-making-of-the-predator-cover-shows-new-predator-design/ (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/03/17/art-and-making-of-the-predator-cover-shows-new-predator-design/)
Here you go.
thanks. I'm getting some old school Kenner figures vibe from that prop statue. the armor and the predator looks way better in the trailers
Sigh...
Again:
This is a promotional statue. Like the Sam Fishers, Batman, Spiderman, assassin's creed type of statues. They go for anything between 700-2000, lack detailing and finish and are produced for static display with an approximation of what is on screen.
This is not a suit, this is not a display like ADI once did for AvP, but just a statue. So don't mind colors and sculptural details, only focus on general design.
I wish ADI would just f**k off. They cannot create a well designed predator for shit....I hate everyone they've ever done. They cannot do a good predator either, everyone they've created looks so fake.
That should've said they cannot create a good predator face.
I don't want to get into it too much but you don't like Wolf's design?
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 13, 2018, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 13, 2018, 10:07:10 PM
Only minor gripe I have is the lack of full body netting.
The netting is there, just you can't see it over the full body due to the full body armor.
I'm aware, the netting is on the legs and chest, but not the arms. The arms aren't covered with armor, so you can tell the netting isn't all over the body.
NECA is going to make some sick figures for this movie, no matter if it turns out to be good or not. My wallet is crying.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 13, 2018, 07:48:54 PM
It's the Predator Space Cops. Somebody in Predator culture has to uphold the law.
Hahaha
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 13, 2018, 11:46:11 PM
I'm aware, the netting is on the legs and chest, but not the arms. The arms aren't covered with armor, so you can tell the netting isn't all over the body.
To be fair, Jungle Hunter didn't have netting on his right arm. City Hunter didn't have any of his left.
Quote from: Raoh76 on Jun 13, 2018, 10:53:04 PM
I don't want to get into it too much but you don't like Wolf's design?
I think Wolf is pretty good on the whole. His face is still awful, though. The (lack of) lighting, rain, and smoke helped to hide it though. In AVP the full front, flat lighting, and the lack of moisture and texture on the face just made it look awful.
I like the design. It's different. Is it the coolest and best design ever? No. But it doesn't have to be.
Don't be fooled by this statue, it's a shit paint job. The Predator will look great on screen
I'm so glad we're not getting the "classic" design again. Each predator should feel unique, and this certainly look fresh(ish) as far as main predators go.
So ADI just did the Predator itself, and the armour was by the others?
That would seem to be the case.
Wow, wasnt expecting that twist. That Adi didnt build the whole suite
so some other company made the suit for just that display? or for the movie version as well?
Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 14, 2018, 07:20:55 AM
so some other company made the suit for just that display? or for the movie version as well?
Production design apparently is in hands of Quantum, who worked on a lot of movies. ADI just did the organic part. Makes you wonder what will be in the artbook by august...
frenchfries Quantum FX did armor for movie too
Am I the only person that hates alec and toms work on predators? These guys manage to butcher every single one I've seen. Wolf was halfway decent at best.
Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jun 14, 2018, 09:36:16 AM
Am I the only person that hates alec and toms work on predators? These guys manage to butcher every single one I've seen. Wolf was halfway decent at best.
KNB did Predators, not ADI. I hated KNB's work on the Classic's mouth!! It was permanently opened wide my god...
Oh did you mean the predators they've done in general?
I actually love the new design its different to what we've seen before. Maybe this design will compliment to whats happening in the film. Agreed that this new look lacks the tribal bone ornamental look but it definitely looks sleek and modern, like the gold accents too. I guess this predator is more like a predator cop with uniform:)
I only wished AVP had done this kinda full armoured look than the bulky ones.
Quote from: von on Jun 14, 2018, 12:05:54 PM
Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jun 14, 2018, 09:36:16 AM
Am I the only person that hates alec and toms work on predators? These guys manage to butcher every single one I've seen. Wolf was halfway decent at best.
KNB did Predators, not ADI. I hated KNB's work on the Classic's mouth!! It was permanently opened wide my god...
Oh did you mean the predators they've done in general?
yes. And I agree classic was a shit show
Problem i have with the new suit is that it look to heroic. Looks like it would have fit with the rest of the Avengers crew.
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 14, 2018, 02:50:57 PM
Problem i have with the new suit is that it look to heroic. Looks like it would have fit with the rest of the Avengers crew.
It definitely takes some adjustment - but if it truly is a bad-blood hunting "space special forces" predator (like I think it could be), then the sleeker design does fit. I'd assume that group would have higher tech, polished armor, etc.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 14, 2018, 02:57:39 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 14, 2018, 02:50:57 PM
Problem i have with the new suit is that it look to heroic. Looks like it would have fit with the rest of the Avengers crew.
It definitely takes some adjustment - but if it truly is a bad-blood hunting "space special forces" predator (like I think it could be), then the sleeker design does fit. I'd assume that group would have higher tech, polished armor, etc.
I don't know man, it takes away the tribal look and that I have a hard time accepting
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 14, 2018, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 14, 2018, 02:57:39 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 14, 2018, 02:50:57 PM
Problem i have with the new suit is that it look to heroic. Looks like it would have fit with the rest of the Avengers crew.
It definitely takes some adjustment - but if it truly is a bad-blood hunting "space special forces" predator (like I think it could be), then the sleeker design does fit. I'd assume that group would have higher tech, polished armor, etc.
I don't know man, it takes away the tribal look and that I have a hard time accepting
I absolutely love the tribal look, but i think it makes sense that it doesn't look like that for the type of story this movie wants to tell.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 14, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 14, 2018, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 14, 2018, 02:57:39 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 14, 2018, 02:50:57 PM
Problem i have with the new suit is that it look to heroic. Looks like it would have fit with the rest of the Avengers crew.
It definitely takes some adjustment - but if it truly is a bad-blood hunting "space special forces" predator (like I think it could be), then the sleeker design does fit. I'd assume that group would have higher tech, polished armor, etc.
I don't know man, it takes away the tribal look and that I have a hard time accepting
I absolutely love the tribal look, but i think it makes sense that it doesn't look like that for the type of story this movie wants to tell.
It might look much better on screen.
"Borgs" armor wasn't very tribal either
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jun 14, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
"Borgs" armor wasn't very tribal either
I sincerely never noticed his armor being all that different until NECA did their figure of him.
Even then, the great thing about the Lost Hunters is that they're all both a modular mixture of the same parts, and individualized.
My main gripe with this suit is lack of originality, it just looks boring , there are huge pieces of armour here that are just bland. The gauntlets don't look predator to me , and the suit looks like something a generic Roman in gladiator might of worn , and not in a cool way either.
People are saying it looks modern when I cannot see it ? It looks like something a human being created , not a high tech alien race .
Honestly out of all the really cool designs in the second film , this is what they come up with ? It's embarrassing.
It's really knocked my confidence a bit I have to say! Hopefully this isn't a true representation of what's in store for us , but I doubt it .
Elderclanleader brother we loosing you again. ;D. But come on, its definitely going to look better in the movie.
Oh, it definitely looks better in the movie, just looking at what we see of it in the trailers.
That statue has really gaudy plain coloring on it.
I doubt it will look much better on film, so far this movie looks bad and with every release looks worse.
Quote from: D88M on Jun 14, 2018, 05:36:52 PM
I doubt it will look much better on film, so far this movie looks bad and with every release looks worse.
Maybe you're worried Argentina will perform poorly at the world cup, but that's not a reason to crush our hopes for this movie ;)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 14, 2018, 05:53:46 PM
Quote from: D88M on Jun 14, 2018, 05:36:52 PM
I doubt it will look much better on film, so far this movie looks bad and with every release looks worse.
Maybe you're worried Argentina will perform poorly at the world cup, but that's not a reason to crush our hopes for this movie ;)
Haha, let's go Argentina
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jun 14, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
"Borgs" armor wasn't very tribal either
But the way it was all dessed and weathered made it look like it belonged. It also offered sleek metallic surfaces and an interesting design.
I'm happy to give this a shot, but simply does not offer the individual look and diversity that even the short moment in P2 had. I think it'll have a context which we simply don't know but explains why it looks like it looks. Simply not jumping up and down for it over stylistic choices.
The statue is very pronounced in detail. It's like a giant Hot Toy and that's the point.
I trust in Larry Fong.
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jun 14, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
"Borgs" armor wasn't very tribal either
The armor itself wasn't really, but the overall design had its tribal touches. Same with Anytime.
Its in the details, but this new armour doesn't feel original, not in the sense as it's not like from previous movies, but lacks original ideas.
Yea, it can be said that it's for more serious and/or military type scenarios, and previous movies ony showed preds "having fun", but then it makes the first 2 movies lose credit.
Also, if hybridization is the main goal, so now no trophies and such... it makes the creature lose its background.
Azamultic , yeah I mean I still have faith that the movie will deliver, it's not a complete deal breaker for me , and judging my the trailer it does look better on screen , my logic is this is one of the friendly predators that gets killed and used as canon fodder, but we will see. Do I like the design though? No I don't , I hate it and I think it's just damn right ugly and boring. Not going to lie there bro !
;D
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Jun 14, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jun 14, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
"Borgs" armor wasn't very tribal either
The armor itself wasn't really, but the overall design had its tribal touches. Same with Anytime.
Its in the details, but this new armour doesn't feel original, not in the sense as it's not like from previous movies, but lacks original ideas.
Yea, it can be said that it's for more serious and/or military type scenarios, and previous movies ony showed preds "having fun", but then it makes the first 2 movies lose credit.
Also, if hybridization is the main goal, so now no trophies and such... it makes the creature lose its background.
Why hybridization would prevent them from taking trophies ? We don't know yet if in the trailer they are talking about the whole species regarding hybridization, and Black has said on twitter that it wasn't the whole species that attempts hybridization.
And let's be honest, a pred can hunt for dna AND for pride at the same time, i don't see anything wrong with that.
Quote from: David 8 on Jun 14, 2018, 07:00:27 PM
The statue is very pronounced in detail. It's like a giant Hot Toy and that's the point.
I trust in Larry Fong.
The statue is nothing like the suits in terms of detailing and finish.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 14, 2018, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: David 8 on Jun 14, 2018, 07:00:27 PM
The statue is very pronounced in detail. It's like a giant Hot Toy and that's the point.
I trust in Larry Fong.
The statue is nothing like the suits in terms of detailing and finish.
I'm not arguing that fact. I'm saying it's a statue with pronounced detailing, that's all.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 14, 2018, 08:37:58 PM
And let's be honest, a pred can hunt for dna AND for pride at the same time, i don't see anything wrong with that.
Okay, i'll be honest. (Feels everyone roll their eyes as they detect an incoming rant.) It's a needless complication for their species on a whole if they don't make it clear this is a minority or a one off situation we're dealing with. The script didn't do that, and neither trailer has made that clear as yet either. There's no "This THING is changing itself." It's "they" are doing this "they" are doing that. Shane Black, the cast and crew, can say whatever they want in interviews and on Twitter. I take what people say about their own movie with a grain of salt until I see the movie with my own eyes, because they are known to throw out misinformation, to make appeasing statements, and to be purposely vague.
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid.
The original concept is so great because it's one of those easily pitched concepts that just works. As The Man Shane Black said himself "It's one of those ideas where once you hear it everyone says "Well why didn't we think of that?""
Openmaw I agree with a lot of what you said there buddy .. damn who would of knew ! ;D
The whole honor concept is an integral part of what makes predator .. well predator to me. Just like trophy hunting and no killing unarmed weaker prey is. There's a general sense of character at play , that keeps our galactic hunter unique and unlike all other aliens in mainstream , Sure I can get behind a few bad predators gone rogue , but it has to be explained right without sh*tting on what has come before and what we love about the The Predator so much. It's the same as the designs , there's too much playing around with things in the hope of being "original" , but the truth is your dealing with an iconic franchise , it can never be truly original , it's better to accept that fact , and start working with the designs that do work , than falling flat .
It might seem tiny , but it's these little bits of detail , why I love predator so much. The original designs were so unique and to me a work of art.
Still Iv still got to have faith though man ! ;)
Guys, You will always have the old predator films and lore, if you don't like this movie, screw it! :)
The only canon is your own head canon.
No Sugar Coating It.
I HATE IT
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 13, 2018, 05:51:01 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, we are looking at Cyrax (Mortal Kombat)
Cyrax and C3PO had a kid together :
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.shoryuken.com%2Fimages%2F0%2F03%2FUmk3_cyrax_pose.png&hash=e1e84ee8c0d00d0c23ff201a676201e1182dabc7)
(https://www.popcultureshocktoys.com/content/images/thumbs/0006227_cyrax-mkx-14_600.jpeg)
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/5/51/C-3PO_EP3.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/500?cb=20131005124036)
Which part looks like C3PO, exactly?
Probably the yellow touches :laugh:
I'm getting more of a Floyd Lawson vibe from that c3po. I don't see the relationship to predator.
Cyrax is already yellow though lol
This movie is going to be awesome. He doesn't look like Cyrax, he looks like a cop for Predators.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 14, 2018, 08:37:58 PM
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Jun 14, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jun 14, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
"Borgs" armor wasn't very tribal either
The armor itself wasn't really, but the overall design had its tribal touches. Same with Anytime.
Its in the details, but this new armour doesn't feel original, not in the sense as it's not like from previous movies, but lacks original ideas.
Yea, it can be said that it's for more serious and/or military type scenarios, and previous movies ony showed preds "having fun", but then it makes the first 2 movies lose credit.
Also, if hybridization is the main goal, so now no trophies and such... it makes the creature lose its background.
Why hybridization would prevent them from taking trophies ? We don't know yet if in the trailer they are talking about the whole species regarding hybridization, and Black has said on twitter that it wasn't the whole species that attempts hybridization.
And let's be honest, a pred can hunt for dna AND for pride at the same time, i don't see anything wrong with that.
Preds can hunt for both, I agree. To be frank, I am not a great fan of the whole eu honor idea, the more times I watched the movies, I found it dumb, altogether with the whole society is built upon it. (nonetheless I enjoy reading novels and books just for fun)
I didn't say hybridization and taking trophies are opposite, they can go hand in hand. I'm just saying that the idea makes the creature lose its background, when not treated as an addition, but basics. The "earlier" predators (talking about only predator movies, no avp) had a visible attachement to their trophies, something that presented their affection toward the actions they performed and were about to perform.
If this visibility/feeling is lacking in the new ones, it leaves them with the hybridization goal (and inner feuds as seen in the trailer) The hunt and its importance seems to be lacking. And of course, it can be said that so many years have passed, they changed their ways too. Yes, but then again, the background built up in former movies begin to fade.
I'm not crying about this movie trying sg new and fres, I like that. I just hope that the new design and ideas won't try wash away eariler ones, but try to harmonize with them, I really want this movie to be good.
But this new design makes me feel otherwise.
The helmet is a bit too "busy" but the overall design is very clean. Looks better from behind (the samurai touches).
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Jun 15, 2018, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 14, 2018, 08:37:58 PM
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Jun 14, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jun 14, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
"Borgs" armor wasn't very tribal either
The armor itself wasn't really, but the overall design had its tribal touches. Same with Anytime.
Its in the details, but this new armour doesn't feel original, not in the sense as it's not like from previous movies, but lacks original ideas.
Yea, it can be said that it's for more serious and/or military type scenarios, and previous movies ony showed preds "having fun", but then it makes the first 2 movies lose credit.
Also, if hybridization is the main goal, so now no trophies and such... it makes the creature lose its background.
Why hybridization would prevent them from taking trophies ? We don't know yet if in the trailer they are talking about the whole species regarding hybridization, and Black has said on twitter that it wasn't the whole species that attempts hybridization.
And let's be honest, a pred can hunt for dna AND for pride at the same time, i don't see anything wrong with that.
Preds can hunt for both, I agree. To be frank, I am not a great fan of the whole eu honor idea, the more times I watched the movies, I found it dumb, altogether with the whole society is built upon it. (nonetheless I enjoy reading novels and books just for fun)
I didn't say hybridization and taking trophies are opposite, they can go hand in hand. I'm just saying that the idea makes the creature lose its background, when not treated as an addition, but basics. The "earlier" predators (talking about only predator movies, no avp) had a visible attachement to their trophies, something that presented their affection toward the actions they performed and were about to perform.
If this visibility/feeling is lacking in the new ones, it leaves them with the hybridization goal (and inner feuds as seen in the trailer) The hunt and its importance seems to be lacking. And of course, it can be said that so many years have passed, they changed their ways too. Yes, but then again, the background built up in former movies begin to fade.
I'm not crying about this movie trying sg new and fres, I like that. I just hope that the new design and ideas won't try wash away eariler ones, but try to harmonize with them, I really want this movie to be good.
But this new design makes me feel otherwise.
Well i can say i agree with you overall ;)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 15, 2018, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Jun 15, 2018, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 14, 2018, 08:37:58 PM
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Jun 14, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jun 14, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
"Borgs" armor wasn't very tribal either
The armor itself wasn't really, but the overall design had its tribal touches. Same with Anytime.
Its in the details, but this new armour doesn't feel original, not in the sense as it's not like from previous movies, but lacks original ideas.
Yea, it can be said that it's for more serious and/or military type scenarios, and previous movies ony showed preds "having fun", but then it makes the first 2 movies lose credit.
Also, if hybridization is the main goal, so now no trophies and such... it makes the creature lose its background.
Why hybridization would prevent them from taking trophies ? We don't know yet if in the trailer they are talking about the whole species regarding hybridization, and Black has said on twitter that it wasn't the whole species that attempts hybridization.
And let's be honest, a pred can hunt for dna AND for pride at the same time, i don't see anything wrong with that.
Preds can hunt for both, I agree. To be frank, I am not a great fan of the whole eu honor idea, the more times I watched the movies, I found it dumb, altogether with the whole society is built upon it. (nonetheless I enjoy reading novels and books just for fun)
I didn't say hybridization and taking trophies are opposite, they can go hand in hand. I'm just saying that the idea makes the creature lose its background, when not treated as an addition, but basics. The "earlier" predators (talking about only predator movies, no avp) had a visible attachement to their trophies, something that presented their affection toward the actions they performed and were about to perform.
If this visibility/feeling is lacking in the new ones, it leaves them with the hybridization goal (and inner feuds as seen in the trailer) The hunt and its importance seems to be lacking. And of course, it can be said that so many years have passed, they changed their ways too. Yes, but then again, the background built up in former movies begin to fade.
I'm not crying about this movie trying sg new and fres, I like that. I just hope that the new design and ideas won't try wash away eariler ones, but try to harmonize with them, I really want this movie to be good.
But this new design makes me feel otherwise.
Well i can say i agree with you overall ;)
Thanks :) Let's just hope for the best!
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 13, 2018, 12:48:41 AM
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Quote from: The Snipes on Jun 15, 2018, 02:44:53 PM
This movie is going to be awesome. He doesn't look like Cyrax, he looks like a cop for Predators.
Policing the galaxies. I like this idea of a "cop" predator. :laugh:
The Enforcers from Bad Blood basically.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 16, 2018, 05:22:05 PM
The Enforcers from Bad Blood basically.
Just more standardised armor from what we know right now. Although my bet is still on a certain tribe ór it being a human hybrid.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 16, 2018, 06:02:46 PM
Just more standardised armor from what we know right now. Although my bet is still on a certain tribe ór it being a human hybrid.
I'm actually totally cool with the Predator Space Police having a different look to the original Predators, as long as you can still identify the Predator in the design(which you can). In Bad Blood the Enforcers were basically just the P1 design with a new mask.
Assuming of course Captured is a space cop. I don't think anything in the early draft implies he is, just that he's
Spoiler
against Upgrade.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 16, 2018, 05:22:05 PM
The Enforcers from Bad Blood basically.
Haven't read it but I'm intrigued. Never got into comics in general though, I've read a couple AVP ones but wasn't that impressed as they never seem to have enough details for me.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 16, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 16, 2018, 05:22:05 PM
The Enforcers from Bad Blood basically.
Haven't read it but I'm intrigued. Never got into comics in general though, I've read a couple AVP ones but wasn't that impressed as they never seem to have enough details for me.
(https://i.imgur.com/qI3yyeJ.png)
Bad Blood.
(https://i.imgur.com/N9rgkXM.png)
Bad Blood being chased by Enforcers.
(https://i.imgur.com/VjDdgCz.png)
Enforcers aboard the starship Prederprise.
My hope is that this Pred, if it is in the movie, is something like the Enforcers, showing up to rein things in at the end. Always loved the concept and design.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 16, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
My hope is that this Pred, if it is in the movie, is something like the Enforcers, showing up to rein things in at the end. Always loved the concept and design.
Same here. I've always wanted to see them somehow involved in the movies. There's a lot of untapped potential there. They're also essentially just Classics with better gear (no mutations, hybridization, etc.) so the characters themselves are in line with the originals.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 16, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 16, 2018, 06:02:46 PM
Just more standardised armor from what we know right now. Although my bet is still on a certain tribe ór it being a human hybrid.
I'm actually totally cool with the Predator Space Police having a different look to the original Predators, as long as you can still identify the Predator in the design(which you can). In Bad Blood the Enforcers were basically just the P1 design with a new mask.
Assuming of course Captured is a space cop. I don't think anything in the early draft implies he is, just that he's Spoiler
against Upgrade.
Is that really Captured though, or another Predator that they may have added after the revisions?
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 16, 2018, 08:33:29 PM
Is that really Captured though, or another Predator that they may have added after the revisions?
Nah, it's definitely Captured. The design is carrying over from what we see in the trailer. We know what the others look like thanks to the leaked set photos.
I also love the idea of a cop predator I mean why the hell wouldn't they have a body that inforces and upholds their values. A fresh concept love it
I like that they do a fresh take, but I also expect a f**king feral Pred with bone decorations and shit
Why am I even commenting on this?
.............It looks like a duck. i'm sorry. Who the hell approved that mask.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 16, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 16, 2018, 06:02:46 PM
Just more standardised armor from what we know right now. Although my bet is still on a certain tribe ór it being a human hybrid.
I'm actually totally cool with the Predator Space Police having a different look to the original Predators, as long as you can still identify the Predator in the design(which you can). In Bad Blood the Enforcers were basically just the P1 design with a new mask.
Assuming of course Captured is a space cop. I don't think anything in the early draft implies he is, just that he's Spoiler
against Upgrade.
Captured being a space cop would account for the well maintained/new looking equipment. Although, I don't see him giving hybrid the "kiss of midnight". It's going to take a group effort to pull that off.
I'm hoping Hybrid isn't portrayed as some roided out idiot who manages to get himself spotted or into public fights like abomination.
Quote from: SwineRider on Jun 16, 2018, 11:27:13 PM
I like that they do a fresh take, but I also expect a f**king feral Pred with bone decorations and shit
See, thats right there my main gripe with Upgrade's design. He is just big predator with minimal design. No skulls/bones, no mask nothing interesting.
Yeah, I feel that. I like they haven't gone outrageous with him but something closer to the Bad Blood would have been cooler.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 17, 2018, 01:58:32 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 16, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 16, 2018, 06:02:46 PM
Just more standardised armor from what we know right now. Although my bet is still on a certain tribe ór it being a human hybrid.
I'm actually totally cool with the Predator Space Police having a different look to the original Predators, as long as you can still identify the Predator in the design(which you can). In Bad Blood the Enforcers were basically just the P1 design with a new mask.
Assuming of course Captured is a space cop. I don't think anything in the early draft implies he is, just that he's Spoiler
against Upgrade.
Captured being a space cop would account for the well maintained/new looking equipment. Although, I don't see him giving hybrid the "kiss of midnight". It's going to take a group effort to pull that off.
I'm leaning more towards a military but either works for me.
Quote from: Kaya on Jun 17, 2018, 01:38:04 AM
.............It looks like a duck. i'm sorry. Who the hell approved that mask.
Funny, I always thought City Hunter looked like a duck.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 18, 2018, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Kaya on Jun 17, 2018, 01:38:04 AM
.............It looks like a duck. i'm sorry. Who the hell approved that mask.
Funny, I always thought City Hunter looked like a duck.
Yep the city hunters mask reminds me of a duck face lol. However, it's the most perfect predator mask imo
Indeed the city hunter's mask is the most duck like of the movie masks, which i love... In fact it's even my favourite one.
Watched predator 2 yesterday. I've seen the movie around 30 times, never gets old. It amazes me how damn good Kevin Peter hall played under that suit.the guy was a genius.
I love city hunter and all but nothing beats the original, mask included.
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 18, 2018, 03:37:57 PM
Watched predator 2 yesterday. I've seen the movie around 30 times, never gets old. It amazes me how damn good Kevin Peter hall played under that suit.the guy was a genius.
Yeah, he definitely worked with the new setting and made it his own. He transitioned from jungle to city like it was no big deal.
Joining to the team! Love the Duck face of City Hunter, and his desing too. Still think Predator 2 is very underrated. Even so agree that probably Stephen Hopkins not as talanted as John McTiernan.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 19, 2018, 02:09:57 AM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 18, 2018, 03:37:57 PM
Watched predator 2 yesterday. I've seen the movie around 30 times, never gets old. It amazes me how damn good Kevin Peter hall played under that suit.the guy was a genius.
Yeah, he definitely worked with the new setting and made it his own. He transitioned from jungle to city like it was no big deal.
Exactly my thoughts
I love both masks, if you held a gun to my head I think I'd go P2 though, I like the Bronze colour.
I've got both full size in the man cave. I don't mind this one, it's better than the Super Predators, I never really dug the bone thing.
Quote from: Highland on Jun 19, 2018, 06:34:34 AM
I love both masks, if you held a gun to my head I think I'd go P2 though, I like the Bronze colour.
I've got both full size in the man cave. I don't mind this one, it's better than the Super Predators, I never really dug the bone thing.
That I can agree on. Everything about the super pred was a damn joke imo.
They're not Super Predators in the end. Nothing in the film portrays them as such.
As a completely different clan or ethnicity or sub-species or whatever, I still really like the Berserker Clan. The jaw-bone thing looks pretty wicked and I dug the red skin colouration.
Hicks I thing Rodrigez was calling them super preds or tougher ones, and Noland used the description like wolf and dog, if I am not mistaken. So I think at that time they were portraing them like more wild therefore stronger preds. But I agree, the movie didn't show that at all. They felt weaker to me compare to City Hinter, Jungle Hunter.
That might have been the intent early on but it isn't really in the film. You've got one line of dialogue from Nolan that doesn't amount to much. They're not Super Predators as we all thought they'd be from the early script.
Hicks I totally agree, I think it's why I am not fan of this movie, I mean I can tolerate it, and watch it, but seeing how 3 preds lost to group of people like that was a underwhelming (I gueass a better action scenes would have saved it for me). I get the logic that this group of people is like team of 8 Dutches and Harrigans but they really didn't show it well in the movie.
The film was a rushed job that really didn't get to fulfil some of it's more interesting angles. The Berserkers should have just been a single Predator for one thing. That said, I still love Predators. I have so much fun watching that and it teases at a lot of other potential things to do with the franchise.
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 19, 2018, 09:26:50 AM
Hicks I totally agree, I think it's why I am not fan of this movie, I mean I can tolerate it, and watch it, but seeing how 3 preds lost to group of people like that was a underwhelming (I gueass a better action scenes would have saved it for me). I get the logic that this group of people is like team of 8 Dutches and Harrigans but they really didn't show it well in the movie.
The movie is just a mess man. One Yakuza guy kills of the Falconer with ease. Royce running around and beating up Berserk, come on. It's a damn parody of a movie. Feels like the director's, producers, writers don't take movies serious anymore.
I've always maintained the biggest problem with Predators was how it totally wasted Fishburne's character. That could've been so interesting, but not only was the part written really poorly, Fishburne did nothing to convince me he'd been stranded alone and fighting for his life on this planet year after year.
Otherwise I thought it was pretty decent. Maybe not as memorable as the first two, but entertaining. Loved the look of Falconer, probably my favourite design after the Winston originals.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2018, 09:35:09 AM
The film was a rushed job that really didn't get to fulfil some of it's more interesting angles. The Berserkers should have just been a single Predator for one thing. That said, I still love Predators. I have so much fun watching that and it teases at a lot of other potential things to do with the franchise.
Single Predator would have been cool.
I've always wanted to see a movie with two doing the hunting, but like setting traps inside traps, something about two just rings well with me. Maybe it was in a comic I read or something.
Just having Berserker as the villain would have been cool. Unfortunately, and I think I mentioned this before, they need to sell action figures.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 19, 2018, 09:47:20 AM
I've always maintained the biggest problem with Predators was how it totally wasted Fishburne's character. That could've been so interesting, but not only was the part written really poorly, Fishburne did nothing to convince me he'd been stranded alone and fighting for his life on this planet year
He was too overweight to convincingly play a survivalist stranded on an alien planet for years.
Quote from: Scorpio on Jun 20, 2018, 01:37:16 AM
Just having Berserker as the villain would have been cool. Unfortunately, and I think I mentioned this before, they need to sell action figures.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 19, 2018, 09:47:20 AM
I've always maintained the biggest problem with Predators was how it totally wasted Fishburne's character. That could've been so interesting, but not only was the part written really poorly, Fishburne did nothing to convince me he'd been stranded alone and fighting for his life on this planet year
He was too overweight to convincingly play a survivalist stranded on an alien planet for years.
True. His rich, smooth voice also didn't go with the character imho. He just seemed really out of place in retrospect :-\
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2018, 09:15:32 AM
That might have been the intent early on but it isn't really in the film. You've got one line of dialogue from Nolan that doesn't amount to much. They're not Super Predators as we all thought they'd be from the early script.
You keep saying that, but the line is there, it's in all the film's descriptions. Rodriquez and Antal wouldn't shut their mouths about their new "ipod" predators.
It was their intention, and since it's so muddled in the film only indicates that it was a failure. It has nothing to do with whether or not we had expectations going in. That aspect of Predators is an abject failure.
I keep saying it because ultimately that's what happened. They may have prattled on about it and it may have been the intention but it's just not evident in the film. That one line means absolutely nothing when presented with the actual Predators. They're not "Super" in any sense. Nor are they the "Super Predators" from the script - though that has made a re-appearance in the new one. It's definitely a failure on their part - especially if they intended to really put any of that across.
Yet I found the armor designs on Predators more interesting for them being some renegade tribe...
Just like with The Predator, I haven't read anything (script, spoilers, just some official articles) about Predators before watching the movie. I have to say, that it was empasized that those hunters there are superb to the former version of the creature.
Noland said the larger ones hunt the smaller ones, when talking about the feud. Berserker beheaded Classic, which is quite a symbolic move, as I see.
But overall the performed much weaker against humans as the former hunters, also terrain known to them. So that was a shame to the whole concept. In light of that I'm interested how the upgrade will stand its ground in The Predator.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 20, 2018, 04:53:51 AM
You keep saying that, but the line is there, it's in all the film's descriptions. Rodriquez and Antal wouldn't shut their mouths about their new "ipod" predators.
I believe that "iPod" predators claim was simply referring to the creatures' design rather than their capability/supposed superiority. In the video below (at 31:25) the makeup effects designer, Greg Nicotero, states RR and Antal requested the classic be referred to as the cassette tape version to the iPod versions that are the new predators. He added they needed to be "sleeker, elegant and fierce." Then he talks about how bigger isn't always better, so they kept the armor closer to the body, swept the dreadlocks to the back of the head and made it a point to have them look lean. None of that translates to capability during the hunt.
So if they aren't bigger or distinctly stronger and aren't better killers based on visual evidence alone, what makes them super predators? Nolan saying the bigger ones hunt the smaller ones (which aren't actually smaller) between talking to his imaginary friend? I get what they were going for but the new predators didn't translate as better in any way, just different in design.
If they showed one new predator kill like 3 classics then I might believe it was a super predator but we get nothing like that.
I'm simply going to repeat it.
It was their intent. They did drop that intent into the final movie with Noland's dialogue and having Black behead Classic.
Just because it sucks doesn't mean it isn't there. It just sucks. They failed. They intended it, and it failed. No, it doesn't make sense. It's still there. They f**ked it up. But it's there. We all know there were several ways they could have done it better.
This is why I hate the entire idea of ever going "The Predator is back, but this time it's got a wang the size of the panama canal!!!" The original creature is formidable enough.
I'd say what we see in the film is more important than what the crew might have suggested off-camera, and the film never really implies they're supposed to be better or stronger. Just different.
Exactly. And even if they were intended to be bigger, badder, better, etc, they are still 100% not the Black Super Predators who were more than just Bx3 from the early draft.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 21, 2018, 08:04:17 AM
I'd say what we see in the film is more important than what the crew might have suggested off-camera, and the film never really implies they're supposed to be better or stronger. Just different.
The case is, that is directly implied by Noland. And as the sole human they are meeting on the planet, he is kind of speaks for the movie. Yes, it was clearly suggested those 3 were better/stronger preds, the movie just failed to represent them as such.
To be honest I agree it was sort of implied by Nolan they were bigger and stronger , I do think it was in there but was just poorly executed. However personally I always just assumed they were just a clan of bad bloods and nothing more , officially they are called Beserker, Tracker and Falconer , not the "Super Predators" we are talking about. All the merchandise that came out referred to them as their individual names I.e Berserker predator etc , however you look at it , the film was a rush job and to me a huge disappointment, I actually enjoy AVP more than predators and that's saying something. There was so many illogical moments in predators, here's an example , Royce says " we need overlapping fields of fire" and makes a plan , only for them to walk off in the other direction. It just made no sense at all. ::)
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 21, 2018, 03:57:01 PM
To be honest I agree it was sort of implied by Nolan they were bigger and stronger , I do think it was in there but was just poorly executed. However personally I always just assumed they were just a clan of bad bloods and nothing more , officially they are called Beserker, Tracker and Falconer , not the "Super Predators" we are talking about. All the merchandise that came out referred to them as their individual names I.e Berserker predator etc , however you look at it , the film was a rush job and to me a huge disappointment, I actually enjoy AVP more than predators and that's saying something. There was so many illogical moments in predators, here's an example , Royce says " we need overlapping fields of fire" and makes a plan , only for them to walk off in the other direction. It just made no sense at all. ::)
When I rewatch the movie, this is what I convince myself of :laugh: It makes the movie much better in my opinion. I just kind of forget about everything else and go with this.
Bad Bloods aren't just some interchangable concept. The Bad Blood Predator was a Predator Serial killer. He went on a rampage killing whatever got in his way without any of the rules at play at all. He was still a Predator though.
The Supers are very clearly a different breed. Aside of a few pieces of similar tech, they look nothing like Jungle, City, Lost Tribe, the AVP or the AVP R Predators. Their head shapes and details are completely different. They are the wolves to the dogs.
Clearly a different breed or race of predator but wolves are more aggressive and better fighters compared to the average dog. The predators in Predators werent bigger or stronger than the classic.
Better comparison would be German Shepherd to Rottweilers. Different looking but both large breeds, one is more athletically built while the other is stocky and powerful. Can't say one breed would win in a fight over the other every time.
Wysps it's the only way to get round it! ;D
Stealth hunter , that's sort of the way I seen it too . A different sub species of predators that had gone rogue and become bad bloods. There clearly was no honour to them , the way they held classic captive only to slaughter him in a unfair fight. It's not the way classic would of gone about it , if it was the other way round. So I would argue they were definitely bad bloods, and personally I suspect mr upgrade in "The Predator" is one too.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 21, 2018, 05:11:03 PM
Bad Bloods aren't just some interchangable concept. The Bad Blood Predator was a Predator Serial killer. He went on a rampage killing whatever got in his way without any of the rules at play at all. He was still a Predator though.
The Supers are very clearly a different breed. Aside of a few pieces of similar tech, they look nothing like Jungle, City, Lost Tribe, the AVP or the AVP R Predators. Their head shapes and details are completely different. They are the wolves to the dogs.
^this. I can't accept the trio in predators as bad bloods, for they had their own concept (as I see, it was the random "I don't give a shit" concept. They were just plain dumb and careless)
But there was one. In bad blood the hunter is a maniac. The opening panel's radio show speech clearly suggests that it's insane but at least has some serious problem.
The trio was just a different breed with different ideology which was interpreted superior to the original, but in the end it was deeply flawed not only in concept but implementation. And to be frank, that's the movie's biggest mistake, as I see.
Seems like they've produced a good amount of these for display at cinemas...which tracks as CineEurope is for Cinema Owners and etc.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bk4eJ_Ohsq0/?tagged=thepredator
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bk4Blk5BWPI/?tagged=thepredator
I'd buy one if they drop under 500.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmHw-4SACe4/?tagged=thepredator
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmHxMbSgUJF/?tagged=thepredator
Looks like the statue has made it's wait to Korea. I hope it shows up in the UK too. Wouldn't mind a new profile pic. :P
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmLRG0ajtWM/?tagged=thepredator
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https://twitter.com/shjeon95/status/1030329494437916672
For any UKians, there's a statue now on display at the Leicester Square Cineworld. Trying to find out if there's one at any other locations.
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