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Title: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Feb 09, 2017, 01:50:26 PM
So we now know about Kyle Strauts playing at least one Predator, but what about the other guys?

I came across this pic on instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIWVROVg-A4/?taken-by=tootall604

Those are all the guys invited by FOX in L.A to audition for the role, there is also the guy Mike Konanec who i reported auditioned for the role back in July, but didn't end up getting it.

So, there you go, some of those guys are our Predators.

Edit:

Judging by this pic: https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUZpqPgMUi/?taken-by=tootall604

This guy is also playing a Predator, Brian A. Prince:
https://www.instagram.com/thebaprince/
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 09, 2017, 02:04:50 PM
The second guy you shared is 6'10", at least he's taller, I wonder if their casting more agile Predators this time for better action scenes
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Feb 09, 2017, 02:11:52 PM
Maybe not the tallest dudes in the world, but man, look at this guy:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BL7yzaxA6Q4/?taken-by=thebaprince

They are going for tall dancers/parkour jumpers this time for maximum movement.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Xan21 on Feb 09, 2017, 02:15:19 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 09, 2017, 02:15:40 PM
Damn, pretty athletic!


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Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: ThePredatorUK on Feb 09, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
They must of done good in the audition if Black is overlooking Ian Whyte... Unless he just hasn't been confirmed yet, as he wouldn't really need to audition 🤔
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 09, 2017, 02:16:56 PM
Is there any confirmation on this guy thebaprince?


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Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Feb 09, 2017, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 09, 2017, 02:16:56 PM
Is there any confirmation on this guy thebaprince?


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Pretty much, he posted on facebook that he's going to be in Vancouver for most of 2017, training with the guy that is listed as a Predator on IMDB... that's a bit too much coincidence for me.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 09, 2017, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Feb 09, 2017, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 09, 2017, 02:16:56 PM
Is there any confirmation on this guy thebaprince?


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Pretty much, he posted on facebook that he's going to be in Vancouver for most of 2017, training with the guy that is listed as a Predator on IMDB... that's a bit too much coincidence for me.
Yeah I would have that same thought then


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Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Feb 09, 2017, 01:50:26 PM
Judging by this pic: https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUZpqPgMUi/?taken-by=tootall604

This guy is also playing a Predator, Brian A. Prince:
https://www.instagram.com/thebaprince/

He's also in the middle of the group shot you shared. I've shot him a query to ask if he's working on the film.

Nice sleuthing, my man.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 09, 2017, 02:24:47 PM
Very Detective like [emoji1303]


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Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Feb 09, 2017, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Feb 09, 2017, 01:50:26 PM
Judging by this pic: https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUZpqPgMUi/?taken-by=tootall604

This guy is also playing a Predator, Brian A. Prince:
https://www.instagram.com/thebaprince/

He's also in the middle of the group shot you shared. I've shot him a query to ask if he's working on the film.

Nice sleuthing, my man.
From Twitter:
QuoteWhere in the world is Brian... we'll isn't that the question. While I'm currently in Vancouver for some work (that I can't talk about yet, but soon) I've decided to take this opportunity to go into a creation cave, where I'm going to try to avoid posting on social media until certain personal and professional projects are completed. If you need me, message me, and I can't wait to show you lovely peeps some excellent work in the future.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 02:31:12 PM
There's a Facebook post where he also talks about being in Vancouver on a project for most of the year.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: goose_3387 on Feb 09, 2017, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: UKpredfan on Feb 09, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
They must of done good in the audition if Black is overlooking Ian Whyte... Unless he just hasn't been confirmed yet, as he wouldn't really need to audition 🤔

Aslong as Whyte is playing the main Pred it's OK. Would be a shame for Black's to make a good movie but have a short looking Preds.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Feb 09, 2017, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: greygoose on Feb 09, 2017, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: UKpredfan on Feb 09, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
They must of done good in the audition if Black is overlooking Ian Whyte... Unless he just hasn't been confirmed yet, as he wouldn't really need to audition 🤔

Aslong as Whyte is playing the main Pred it's OK. Would be a shame for Black's to make a good movie but have a short looking Preds.

They aren't really short, with 6'10" you're still a towering person. With the suits on, they are all above 7 feet.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 09, 2017, 02:42:44 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Feb 09, 2017, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: greygoose on Feb 09, 2017, 02:34:24 PM
Quote from: UKpredfan on Feb 09, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
They must of done good in the audition if Black is overlooking Ian Whyte... Unless he just hasn't been confirmed yet, as he wouldn't really need to audition 🤔

Aslong as Whyte is playing the main Pred it's OK. Would be a shame for Black's to make a good movie but have a short looking Preds.

They aren't really short, with 6'10" you're still a towering person. With the suits on, they are all above 7 feet.

I know the Wikipedia info on the Predators height is around 7'8", Kevin Peter Hall was 7'2", so with that said maybe the suit adds another 6", but they also can make the Predator look much taller with the way they film
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 09, 2017, 03:01:01 PM
So how many preds altogether are there??
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 03:10:32 PM
We don't know at this point. And we don't know for certain if these guys are. But assuming Strauts and Prince are, that's 2.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Xan21 on Feb 09, 2017, 03:14:13 PM
They could also have their own special moves and to lighten the workload 2 guys can play one predator
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 09, 2017, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2017, 03:10:32 PM
We don't know at this point. And we don't know for certain if these guys are. But assuming Strauts and Prince are, that's 2.

Wonder if it will be a group or just one, and with a pred ship like at the end of Predator 2??
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2017, 06:42:58 PM
Remember the original Alien was played by two different actors.

People make such a big deal about the height. When you're talking about a variation of a couple inches, four or five at the most, you aren't going to notice when they film the actors and predators from the right angles. We're going to get big Predators.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: echobbase79 on Feb 09, 2017, 09:55:13 PM

That one guy moves great! :) Shades of Kevin Peter Hall indeed.

I'm just happy these guys are bigger than the stuntmen in Predators. Even though the story did acknowledge that some of the species are smaller.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: ace3g on Feb 10, 2017, 12:56:33 AM
Did this image get posted yet?

His location: Winnipeg, Manitoba

Looks like a movie called The Midnight Man based on the hashtag and Robert Englund is involved

Quotetootall604Excited to see this film. Such a focused high fidelity crew and exuberant cast. @softinstagram @gabrielleghaugh @emilyhaine @thelinshaye @robert.englund @traviszariwny #film #themidnightman #gratitude #performerlife #actorlife #acting #character #monsters #indie #indiehorror #horror #cinematography #goodtimes #winnipeg #contrast #instagood #instagram #new #leadingrole #cast #hollywood #crew #pewpew

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPyF59QAyXW/?taken-by=tootall604

(https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/16123748_1534374373246836_1062809740662276096_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQzNzIzNzIwNDA5NDIzMjAyMg%3D%3D.2)




Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Alien Predator on Feb 10, 2017, 01:38:02 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 10, 2017, 12:56:33 AM
Did this image get posted yet?

His location: Winnipeg, Manitoba

Looks like a movie called The Midnight Man based on the hashtag and Robert Englund is involved

Quotetootall604Excited to see this film. Such a focused high fidelity crew and exuberant cast. @softinstagram @gabrielleghaugh @emilyhaine @thelinshaye @robert.englund @traviszariwny #film #themidnightman #gratitude #performerlife #actorlife #acting #character #monsters #indie #indiehorror #horror #cinematography #goodtimes #winnipeg #contrast #instagood #instagram #new #leadingrole #cast #hollywood #crew #pewpew

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPyF59QAyXW/?taken-by=tootall604

(https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/16123748_1534374373246836_1062809740662276096_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQzNzIzNzIwNDA5NDIzMjAyMg%3D%3D.2)

I really love the look of that picture! Like a Predator examining some clues, searching for his prey.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 10, 2017, 10:29:41 AM
Just another thought in regards to the group photo Mike Konanec shared. When he confirmed he didn't get the part on his Facebook, he also specifically said he knew the 2 guys they'd selected. So Prince and Strauts?
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Feb 10, 2017, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 10, 2017, 10:29:41 AM
Just another thought in regards to the group photo Mike Konanec shared. When he confirmed he didn't get the part on his Facebook, he also said specifically said he knew the 2 guys they'd selected. So Prince and Strauts?
Seems like it.
Maybe they have Ian Whyte playing the main Predators and those two guys are just for stunts? Ian is not getting any younger after all.

Many possibilities at this point.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: OpenMaw on Feb 10, 2017, 08:11:33 PM
My guess is we're going to have exactly two predators. One near the beginning of the film that sets things in motion, and then the "main" one.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Tangakkai on Feb 11, 2017, 10:42:48 AM
I really liked Ian Whyte, he gave his Predators great personanilty traits. He would have the right experience now to return, shame he wont.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: ace3g on Feb 24, 2017, 12:49:16 AM
There might have been scheduling issues anyway, but I wonder if they looked at Joonas Suotamo - new Chewbacca actor - to play one of the Predators.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 24, 2017, 12:59:49 AM
Ian said on Twitter he's not involved


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Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Predator_Spirit on Feb 24, 2017, 01:09:04 AM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 24, 2017, 12:59:49 AM
Ian said on Twitter he's not involved


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Another big mistake.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Stealth_Hunter on Feb 24, 2017, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2017, 06:42:58 PM
Remember the original Alien was played by two different actors.

People make such a big deal about the height. When you're talking about a variation of a couple inches, four or five at the most, you aren't going to notice when they film the actors and predators from the right angles. We're going to get big Predators.

If I'm not mistaken, Shane also said they would bring a sense of mystery back to the Predator. Chances are we won't see him (them?) front and center through most of the film anyway.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 24, 2017, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Feb 24, 2017, 01:09:04 AM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 24, 2017, 12:59:49 AM
Ian said on Twitter he's not involved


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Another big mistake.

I had heard that Ian was unavailable for this because he is working on another film.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Predator_Spirit on Feb 24, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
I had heard Ian was too expansive.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 24, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Feb 24, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
I had heard Ian was too expansive.

He is a big fellow.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: von on Feb 24, 2017, 09:50:04 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 24, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Feb 24, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
I had heard Ian was too expansive.

He is a big fellow.

I see what you did there 👌🏻
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: lv_226 on Feb 24, 2017, 09:54:39 PM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 24, 2017, 12:59:49 AM
Ian said on Twitter he's not involved


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This is good. Give other people a chance to participate.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Samhain13 on Feb 24, 2017, 11:11:54 PM
Quote from: lv_226 on Feb 24, 2017, 09:54:39 PM
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 24, 2017, 12:59:49 AM
Ian said on Twitter he's not involved


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This is good. Give other people a chance to participate.

Ian had experience on this, it would be good to have him on this.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Keith on Feb 25, 2017, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Feb 24, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
I had heard Ian was too expansive.

Where is all the budget being spent on this? To pay Shane's salary? It's certainly not on the cheap cast or shooting location.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 25, 2017, 03:07:23 PM
Quote from: Keith on Feb 25, 2017, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Feb 24, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
I had heard Ian was too expansive.

This is what I was told

I'm not at liberty to share that information, but I can say it's a big movie and that a lot of creative thought, brilliant talent, and money are going into the creation of our title character.

Where is all the budget being spent on this? To pay Shane's salary? It's certainly not on the cheap cast or shooting location.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: goose_3387 on Feb 25, 2017, 06:09:14 PM
Quote from: Keith on Feb 25, 2017, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Feb 24, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
I had heard Ian was too expansive.

Where is all the budget being spent on this? To pay Shane's salary? It's certainly not on the cheap cast or shooting location.


The movie has the potential to become CGI heavy. Might be saving it for post production.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Keith on Feb 25, 2017, 07:25:51 PM
Quote from: greygoose on Feb 25, 2017, 06:09:14 PM
Quote from: Keith on Feb 25, 2017, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Feb 24, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
I had heard Ian was too expansive.

Where is all the budget being spent on this? To pay Shane's salary? It's certainly not on the cheap cast or shooting location.


The movie has the potential to become CGI heavy. Might be saving it for post production.

That has me worried as well.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Feb 26, 2017, 08:51:33 PM
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Pretty funny guy


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Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Johnny Handsome on May 07, 2018, 01:09:24 PM
Daniel Cudmore could be playing the Upgrade Predator.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1214436/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Set pics
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bguk0LEBU_r/?taken-by=danielcudmore

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bg2mwtwhNs0/?taken-by=danielcudmore

He`s using stilts, making him roughly 9 feet tall:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BgnazP8hHb5/?taken-by=danielcudmore


Now, there are two options, they have a practical suit, that will be filmed from the waist up, or, he's performing in a motion capture suit for the upgrade to be CGI.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bg-C01SlHg8/?taken-by=1stuntman2mastiffs
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 07, 2018, 02:36:23 PM
Finally ! And i think it could be both suit and CGI.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 07, 2018, 03:56:21 PM
My life - he looks massive with those stilts! Really looking forward to actually seeing some proper bts stills of the creatures!
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 07, 2018, 04:55:37 PM
Still no sign of an actor playing the captured pred. Do you think one of the actors already casted (Strauts, Prince...) could play more than one pred ? I mean, that already happened in the past so...
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: skull-splitter on May 07, 2018, 05:17:28 PM
As long as they are good with movement, I am totally fine with whoever plays the predators.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Lionhart on May 07, 2018, 06:53:11 PM
Any tall guy can just put on that Predator suit and mask, but the question is, Can they move and mimic Kevin Peter Hall? first AVP predators sure as hell didnt, I hated that movie because of that. Felt like I was watching Robocop in a Predator suit. Stiffnes to the max
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: skull-splitter on May 07, 2018, 07:21:12 PM
Largely due to the bulk, one of the few things AvP-R actually improved using the very same actor.

Rewatching P2, it became really clear it's the one armed stuntman running from Glover in the appartment.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: goose_3387 on May 07, 2018, 08:22:31 PM
CGI Predator then?...
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Original Predator on May 07, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 07, 2018, 06:53:11 PM
Any tall guy can just put on that Predator suit and mask, but the question is, Can they move and mimic Kevin Peter Hall? first AVP predators sure as hell didnt, I hated that movie because of that. Felt like I was watching Robocop in a Predator suit. Stiffnes to the max

Spot on. 

Would love to rank other Pred Actors after KPH.  I honestly couldn't tell the difference between them.  I truly believe that once Hall died, the Pred died with him. 

I think that is part of the problem with these Pred movies, these actors don't seem to care much about moving like a alien-creature, reacting like an alien-creature, in a different atmosphere, planet etc. 

It literally looks like dude's in costumes, not very convincing.  It's part of the whole "humanize" the Pred bit that Fox has gone thru. 

"Well since we can't find a tall guy to give a crap about making this thing move/act like a creature from another planet then we'll just make them friends with the human characters and they can work together...."

Watch KPH Act the Waterfall scene in Pred and the Slaughterhouse scene in Pred 2 (peak moments of an already peak performance).
There  has been nothing acted since even close.

Have any of these tall-buff actors after KPH spoken with any reverence or study of KPH?  Or do they just act like typical gym dudes and get paid? cuz....seems like it.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Lionhart on May 08, 2018, 06:35:13 AM
I see stiffness when I look at that Avp division



Quote from: Original Predator on May 07, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 07, 2018, 06:53:11 PM
Any tall guy can just put on that Predator suit and mask, but the question is, Can they move and mimic Kevin Peter Hall? first AVP predators sure as hell didnt, I hated that movie because of that. Felt like I was watching Robocop in a Predator suit. Stiffnes to the max

Spot on. 

Would love to rank other Pred Actors after KPH.  I honestly couldn't tell the difference between them.  I truly believe that once Hall died, the Pred died with him. 

I think that is part of the problem with these Pred movies, these actors don't seem to care much about moving like a alien-creature, reacting like an alien-creature, in a different atmosphere, planet etc. 

It literally looks like dude's in costumes, not very convincing.  It's part of the whole "humanize" the Pred bit that Fox has gone thru. 

"Well since we can't find a tall guy to give a crap about making this thing move/act like a creature from another planet then we'll just make them friends with the human characters and they can work together...."

Watch KPH Act the Waterfall scene in Pred and the Slaughterhouse scene in Pred 2 (peak moments of an already peak performance).
There  has been nothing acted since even close.

Have any of these tall-buff actors after KPH spoken with any reverence or study of KPH?  Or do they just act like typical gym dudes and get paid? cuz....seems like it.
Very true


Quote from: skull-splitter on May 07, 2018, 07:21:12 PM
Largely due to the bulk, one of the few things AvP-R actually improved using the very same actor.

Rewatching P2, it became really clear it's the one armed stuntman running from Glover in the appartment.
Yeah, that I agree on.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 08, 2018, 07:29:21 AM
Quote from: goose_3387 on May 07, 2018, 08:22:31 PM
CGI Predator then?...

We've seen practical suits. I imagine they'll be a mix.

Quote from: Original Predator on May 07, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
Would love to rank other Pred Actors after KPH.  I honestly couldn't tell the difference between them.  I truly believe that once Hall died, the Pred died with him. 

I'd disagree with that. There's no denying KPH is the original but Ian Whyte did a great job in AvPR.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Master on May 08, 2018, 08:20:38 AM
It's strang they didn't approach him for pradators or this one. He was one of the highlights of AvP movies after all.

If the Upgrade is what it was in the scrpit I think he'll be heavily cgi enhanced.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 08, 2018, 08:47:37 AM
Re: Ian Whyte in Predators -

QuoteAvPGalaxy – In 2010 the third Predator film Predators was released but you didn't appear as a Predator in it. I was curious as to if you were ever approached for the film?

Ian Whyte – Yes, I was approached. I was just finishing up Clash of the Titans as I recall and I remember speaking to the stunt coordinator about it briefly. But KNB were creating the costume effects and they obviously had their own casting brief and their own logistical priorities, seeing as the film was to be shot in Texas and Hawaii.

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/ian-whyte-2/
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: goose_3387 on May 08, 2018, 09:40:31 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 08, 2018, 07:29:21 AM
Quote from: goose_3387 on May 07, 2018, 08:22:31 PM
CGI Predator then?...

We've seen practical suits. I imagine they'll be a mix.

Quote from: Original Predator on May 07, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
Would love to rank other Pred Actors after KPH.  I honestly couldn't tell the difference between them.  I truly believe that once Hall died, the Pred died with him. 

I'd disagree with that. There's no denying KPH is the original but Ian Whyte did a great job in AvPR.

Was still hoping the main Pred was a practical suit but given he's like 10 foot tall in the script I guess he will be full CGI.

The joy of KPH playing the Predator is that even now after 31 years you can still look back at production photos and (me personally) still see a practical suit that looks as real as anything.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 08, 2018, 12:43:22 PM
You just saw pictures of a guy with huge stilts, that's a hint it probably won't be full CGI.

And I agree on Ian Whyte, he doesn't get enough credit for his performance in AVPR.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Wysps on May 08, 2018, 06:20:40 PM
Quote from: Original Predator on May 07, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 07, 2018, 06:53:11 PM
Any tall guy can just put on that Predator suit and mask, but the question is, Can they move and mimic Kevin Peter Hall? first AVP predators sure as hell didnt, I hated that movie because of that. Felt like I was watching Robocop in a Predator suit. Stiffnes to the max

Spot on. 

Would love to rank other Pred Actors after KPH.  I honestly couldn't tell the difference between them.  I truly believe that once Hall died, the Pred died with him. 

I think that is part of the problem with these Pred movies, these actors don't seem to care much about moving like a alien-creature, reacting like an alien-creature, in a different atmosphere, planet etc. 

It literally looks like dude's in costumes, not very convincing.  It's part of the whole "humanize" the Pred bit that Fox has gone thru. 

"Well since we can't find a tall guy to give a crap about making this thing move/act like a creature from another planet then we'll just make them friends with the human characters and they can work together...."

Watch KPH Act the Waterfall scene in Pred and the Slaughterhouse scene in Pred 2 (peak moments of an already peak performance).
There  has been nothing acted since even close.

Have any of these tall-buff actors after KPH spoken with any reverence or study of KPH?  Or do they just act like typical gym dudes and get paid? cuz....seems like it.

Whyte's performance in AVPR was up there for me in terms of keeping the "alien" aspect of the Pred alive.  But other than the first two movies and AVPR, yeah I agree the others have kind of failed to capture how alien the Preds are supposed to be.  I definitely feel the "humans in suits" vibe.  I think making them taller and bigger each movie could also make it more difficult for the actors to "act" in the suits when they're probably focusing on keeping themselves upright.  I can't imagine walking on those stilts  :o
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Original Predator on May 08, 2018, 06:36:10 PM
Like the idea of at least incorporating the "tall" into "Super".  It will actually feel and look different vs. the "super" preds that literally only had a different face, otherwise nothing felt or looked superior.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Lionhart on May 08, 2018, 06:41:46 PM
Quote from: Wysps on May 08, 2018, 06:20:40 PM
Quote from: Original Predator on May 07, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 07, 2018, 06:53:11 PM
Any tall guy can just put on that Predator suit and mask, but the question is, Can they move and mimic Kevin Peter Hall? first AVP predators sure as hell didnt, I hated that movie because of that. Felt like I was watching Robocop in a Predator suit. Stiffnes to the max

Spot on. 

Would love to rank other Pred Actors after KPH.  I honestly couldn't tell the difference between them.  I truly believe that once Hall died, the Pred died with him. 

I think that is part of the problem with these Pred movies, these actors don't seem to care much about moving like a alien-creature, reacting like an alien-creature, in a different atmosphere, planet etc. 

It literally looks like dude's in costumes, not very convincing.  It's part of the whole "humanize" the Pred bit that Fox has gone thru. 

"Well since we can't find a tall guy to give a crap about making this thing move/act like a creature from another planet then we'll just make them friends with the human characters and they can work together...."

Watch KPH Act the Waterfall scene in Pred and the Slaughterhouse scene in Pred 2 (peak moments of an already peak performance).
There  has been nothing acted since even close.

Have any of these tall-buff actors after KPH spoken with any reverence or study of KPH?  Or do they just act like typical gym dudes and get paid? cuz....seems like it.

Whyte's performance in AVPR was up there for me in terms of keeping the "alien" aspect of the Pred alive.  But other than the first two movies and AVPR, yeah I agree the others have kind of failed to capture how alien the Preds are supposed to be.  I definitely feel the "humans in suits" vibe.  I think making them taller and bigger each movie could also make it more difficult for the actors to "act" in the suits when they're probably focusing on keeping themselves upright.  I can't imagine walking on those stilts  :o

I agree with you about Whyte's performance in AVPR. I dont know but I felt some good ol vibes from that crucified Predator in (Predators) Shame we didnt get to see him in more action.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: skull-splitter on May 08, 2018, 07:26:20 PM
Performance is key. And to be fair, if they chose to do it performance capture, I'd be fine with it too, as long as it sold the character.

I fear more generic predators, as they already where in Predators.

The Crucified predator was OK at best, Derek Mears performs powerful but really not subtle enough to lift it to higher planes.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 08, 2018, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: Actual Hybrid on May 08, 2018, 05:59:25 PM
Having a hunch...that Stilt guy "Daniel" will play captured

But wouldn't he be way too tall then ?
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 08, 2018, 08:25:09 PM
Quote from: Actual Hybrid on May 08, 2018, 08:20:05 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 08, 2018, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: Actual Hybrid on May 08, 2018, 05:59:25 PM
Having a hunch...that Stilt guy "Daniel" will play captured

But wouldn't he be way too tall then ?

Not really sure.  Very important to find out who rips who in half

Mmm it's pretty clear in the script at least...
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Wysps on May 08, 2018, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 08, 2018, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: Actual Hybrid on May 08, 2018, 05:59:25 PM
Having a hunch...that Stilt guy "Daniel" will play captured

But wouldn't he be way too tall then ?

That's what I'm thinking.  If stilt guy is the captured pred.... that would make the super pred just gargantuan.  Laughably so ;D
I'd hope that's not the case.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: ThePredatorUK on May 09, 2018, 12:03:17 AM
This Daniel actor plays a character (on stilts) in Legends of Tomorrow. How sure are we these pics are from The Predator 🤔
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 09, 2018, 07:24:38 AM
Quote from: ThePredatorUK on May 09, 2018, 12:03:17 AM
This Daniel actor plays a character (on stilts) in Legends of Tomorrow. How sure are we these pics are from The Predator 🤔

Yeah, Mr_H messaged me about this yesterday. Cudmore is actually cast as Colossus in the new X-Men. It's probably for that.

http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/original-colossus-actor-returning-for-x-men-dark-phoenixbut-as-who
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: yautjapet on May 09, 2018, 10:50:14 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 08, 2018, 07:29:21 AM
Quote from: Original Predator on May 07, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
Would love to rank other Pred Actors after KPH.  I honestly couldn't tell the difference between them.  I truly believe that once Hall died, the Pred died with him. 

I'd disagree with that. There's no denying KPH is the original but Ian Whyte did a great job in AvPR.

I'd absolutely agree with this. Wolf had a very lean physique which, unlike the bulkier AvP suits, I thought lended very well to those stealthy, otherworldly, predatory movements.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Danversity on May 14, 2018, 03:19:52 AM
I don't think we're gonna get "generic Predators" at all in this. Black had the whole crew looking back at the original film first and foremost for reference, and obviously that includes the original Predator, and there's this bit of the JoBlo/Collider interviews were he says something that really peaked my interest; he says that he chose to go with misfits for his characters and tried to find thematic elements that worked with that for the movie, and that maybe there's a sense that the Predator himself is an "outcast". I think Black is approaching the Predator in this film as a character, with an arc, rather than just a monster. I doubt anyone's ever topping Kevin Peter Hall, after all he CREATED the Predator body language, but I don't see this movie going with generic Predator performances.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: OpenMaw on May 14, 2018, 05:52:00 AM
Quote from: Danversity on May 14, 2018, 03:19:52 AM
I think Black is approaching the Predator in this film as a character, with an arc,

Well, an ark, anyway.


BA-DM-TSH!
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Huggs on May 14, 2018, 06:11:23 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 14, 2018, 05:52:00 AM
Quote from: Danversity on May 14, 2018, 03:19:52 AM
I think Black is approaching the Predator in this film as a character, with an arc,

Well, an ark, anyway.


BA-DM-TSH!

Smooth  8)
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Lionhart on May 19, 2018, 08:42:34 AM
I don't care who is gonna play the predator as long as they act like an alien and not like robocop à la AVP
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: OpenMaw on Jun 03, 2018, 11:03:04 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 19, 2018, 08:42:34 AM
I don't care who is gonna play the predator as long as they act like an alien and not like robocop à la AVP

To be fair to those actors, the AVP suits were a bulky pain in the ass. You can just tell they're having problems.

Paul Anderson basically had to lean on editing to make those scenes work at all. Which yeah to an extent that's par for the course with the entirety of the series, but it was to an extreme. In the first Predator you could hold on Jungle Hunter for a long time relatively speaking and it wouldn't give it away. The suit was good, and KPH was doing good work inside of it.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Actual Hybrid on Jun 07, 2018, 08:25:45 PM
I'll be a little disappointed if Kyle & BP do double duty and play all the Preds.  Hoping for an additional layer of complexity
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 07, 2018, 10:10:06 PM
Quote from: Actual Hybrid on Jun 07, 2018, 08:25:45 PM
I'll be a little disappointed if Kyle & BP do double duty and play all the Preds.  Hoping for an additional layer of complexity

As of right now it looks like it, no other names to be found for others preds yet.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: ace3g on Jul 02, 2018, 04:58:25 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BklGwl6nO4O/?taken-by=actorkylestrauts
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: skull-splitter on Jul 02, 2018, 09:36:07 AM
Channeling the power stance
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Actual Hybrid on Jul 07, 2018, 07:12:59 PM
Pretty sure BP plays captured.
Soooo, Kyle did Upgrade Mo-cap? Or he cut entirely?
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 07:23:40 PM
A shame we didn't get Ian Whyte, but I am ok with giving other people a chance. I just hope the actors did their homework. It'd be a shame if the Predator just Moves like a hulking beast, like the Super Predators did.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 07:27:45 PM
Brian Prince plays Captured, set reports confirm it. Kyle is credited as Emissary on IMDb, I guess he was one of the friendlies.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: yautjapet on Jul 08, 2018, 02:55:51 AM
Quote from: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 07:23:40 PM
A shame we didn't get Ian Whyte, but I am ok with giving other people a chance. I just hope the actors did their homework. It'd be a shame if the Predator just Moves like a hulking beast, like the Super Predators did.

I totally agree, but given that Brian Prince is a parkour athlete and hinted at the kind of agility and movement required for him on set, I'm feeling good about it!
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: ace3g on Sep 07, 2018, 02:54:26 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BnWmoiRHOsm/?taken-by=thebaprince

QuoteIf you had asked me 10 years ago why I was doing parkour, there's no way I'd say i was training to be the 2018 Predator... but here we are 😆
The 4 months I spent getting in and out of this suit were the hardest, most fulfilling days I've ever experienced and I'm so grateful to have gotten the opportunity to play such an iconic character on the big screen. Do what you're passionate about despite where you think it might lead you because you might just be surprised.

Special thanks to Lance Gilbert and Shane Black for giving me the opportunity, the entire stunt team for training me and always having my back, the cast and crew for their support, the entire ADI team and most of all Kyle, Mike, Heather and Taryn for getting me through each day.
Check out The Predator on September 14 and buy your tickets today!
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Ash 937 on Sep 07, 2018, 03:18:49 AM
I don't know why they just don't get Van Damme to wear the suit again.  He was the original predator and I think every succeeding predator after him was worse and worse the same was that every Batman after Adam West suck more and more.
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: The Old One on Sep 07, 2018, 03:28:05 AM
Can't tell if trollin'
Title: Re: Actors playing the Predators
Post by: Danversity on Sep 07, 2018, 03:38:14 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Sep 07, 2018, 03:28:05 AM
Can't tell if trollin'

Right?