http://www.sbs.com.au/movies/article/2015/11/27/ridley-scott-confirms-oz-shoot-alien-covenant-twice-much-michael-fassbender
QuoteScott said Alien: Covenant will pick up from the end of Prometheus, and see Fassbender playing two versions of his android character, David.
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/ridley-scott-hopes-to-shoot-three-new-alien-movies-in-sydney-20151127-gl93o1.htm
QuoteConfirming that Sydney would be the location for Alien: Covenant on Friday, Scott said it would follow on from 2012's Prometheus and would have Michael Fassbender returning as both android David and a doppelganger.
Michael Fassbender will play multiple Davids according to Sydney Morning Herald. Following on from the news of Ridley Scott's press conference in Australia, some Australian publications have picked up on a nugget that The Hollywood Reporter missed out on: Michael Fassbender will be playing his incarnation of David 8 from Prometheus and another David android:
"Confirming that Sydney would be the location for Alien: Covenant on Friday, Scott said it would follow on from 2012's Prometheus and would have Michael Fassbender returning as both android David and a doppelganger."
An article from SBS also reports that: "Scott said Alien: Covenant will pick up from the end of Prometheus, and see Fassbender playing two versions of his android character, David.
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The possibility of Michael Fassbender portraying multiple David 8 androids was a rumour that was thrown around previously so this may lend some credit to those earlier reports. This will mark the first time that multiple versions of the same android are featured in one film (unless you believe Bishop 2 was an android!)
I think it would be quite easy to say that Michael Fassbender's performance in Prometheus was something a lot of viewers held as one of the more positive aspects of Ridley Scott's last foray into the world of Alien.
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It was recently confirmed by 20th Century Fox that the storyline of Alien: Covenant would include David 8 in quite a big way: "Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship Covenant discovers what they think is an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world — whose sole inhabitant is the "synthetic" David (Michael Fassbender), survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition."
What do you think about Michael Fassbender playing multiple incarnations of David 8?
thank God! it is what i was hoping for, Ridley seized the opportunity to give Fassy the lead role! and the more Fassbender is the better
I wonder where David #2 will feature ? With the crew of the Covenant ?
Quote from: szkoki on Nov 27, 2015, 11:29:46 AM
and the more Fassbender is the better
Exactly my thinking! I love Fassbender and the more Fassbender the better.
Hmm I wonder if there's going to be an instance where the first David from Prometheus turns rouge for what ever reason, "he has his head reattached at some point" then there's a scruffle with the other David, the member of the crew seizes a gun to shoot the evil David but they're unable to tell apart which David is which.
If you ask me that sounds really dumb, kinda like the scene in Terminator Genisys where the T-1000 impersonate Kyle, it was a throw back to Terminator 2 when the T-1000 impersonated Sarah but John noted which was the real Sarah, it was a very brief instance. In Terminator Genisys there play the "Don't shoot me I'm real! He's the imposter!" "No I'm real! He's the Imposter! Shoot him!"
I've only ever seen this gimmick done in parodies, Termaintor Gneisys was one of the few time I've seen it attempted seriously. :P I just hope this movie doesn't do a stupid move like that.
Goes to back to We are Legion for we are many
http://www.scified.com/prometheusmovies/prometheus-2-plot-leak-reveals-why-alien-5-script-had-to-be-changed
;) confirmed 8 months later. Nice.
Not quite. Close though. These reports talk specifically about 2 Davids rather than a whole team of them. It also talks about going back to LV233 rather than to Paradise. We'll see though.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 27, 2015, 03:16:31 PM
Not quite. Close though. These reports talk specifically about 2 Davids rather than a whole team of them. It also talks about going back to LV233 rather than to Paradise. We'll see though.
I think the term "multiple" was loose to begin with, I don't think anyone actually expected an army of Davids. But one or two other models? Absolutely. Going back to LV223 was also rumored and expected, the film will follow 3 main plot lines - one of which involve LV-223 and that system, while the other focuses on Paradise and one (I believe) focuses on a new event which sets things in motion eventually leading to the birth/creation of the original Xenomorph.
Well we've had multiple Davids going all the way back to the original viral video which showed that these guys come on an assembly line, so it would make sense to see more of them. But are they all going to be called David as the video implied? Dunno...
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I would think so. David seems to be the model name rather than a specific name. Personally I'm really hoping we'll get to see them together in the same frame and that they have an interesting dynamic. I love Fassbender and just want to see more of what he can do.
What's got me most intrigued is the "doppelganger" David. Is one evil and one not? Maybe the new David isn't programmed the same and tries to fight for humanity instead of against it. It will be an interesting dynamic to see for sure.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 27, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
I would think so. David seems to be the model name rather than a specific name. Personally I'm really hoping we'll get to see them together in the same frame and that they have an interesting dynamic. I love Fassbender and just want to see more of what he can do.
Fully agree. Fassbender will carry this movie just like he did the last one. But I do wonder where Shaw is. If that is not explored in the next 3 films at all, I will be shocked.
Quote from: Chris P on Nov 27, 2015, 03:13:16 PM
http://www.scified.com/prometheusmovies/prometheus-2-plot-leak-reveals-why-alien-5-script-had-to-be-changed
;) confirmed 8 months later. Nice.
The Wrap also reported the "multiple David" thing as well as the intention of making the new film more "Alieny" earlier this year. Not sure if it was from the same source/informant as yours?
Quotehttp://www.thewrap.com/prometheus-2-lands-green-lantern-writer-may-feature-multiple-michael-fassbenders-exclusive/
So we have confirmation Noomi does get to Paradise with David and we will 'learn what happened there' but also that they are the sole inhabitants.
We know there is a second team coming. I would wager this will be where the second David android comes in. If he isn't named 'David' perhaps he is named 'Eli' or 'Elijah' or the LESS BIBLICAL 'Edward' which I like far less.
Scott has said David becomes dangerous once she re-attaches his head. Perhaps David is the lone survivor when the team finally arrives to Paradise. Perhaps David murders Shaw? It sounds, well, as if there will be two plots or stories. One following this team with the new David, and one depicting what happens when Shaw and David arrive and explore 'Paradise.'
ABOUT THEM BEING ALONE ON THIS PARADISE: I remember one thing Damon Lindeloff and Scott said a few times, that David is somewhat infatuated with Shaw. Lindeloff mentioned multiple times that Scott had developed "IDEAS" for where things would go AFTER Prometheus.... Lindeloff said they had discussed this in some detail and if I remember correctly Spaihts may have also contributed to those with Scott. Sc haveott and Lindeloff also said that David has some sort of Android version of infatuation with Shaw. Not love but a strange interest in her. That's an interesting angle to me, especially if they are alone in this horrible place and David is desperate to make these monsters and he needs hosts. Maybe Shaw just dies before the new team arrives on Paradise? Unless Shaw isn't dead at all, and that detail was misreported.
Hahahaha.
This sounds somewhat similar to something I read once. :P
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 27, 2015, 04:25:39 PM
Quote from: Chris P on Nov 27, 2015, 03:13:16 PM
http://www.scified.com/prometheusmovies/prometheus-2-plot-leak-reveals-why-alien-5-script-had-to-be-changed
;) confirmed 8 months later. Nice.
The Wrap also reported the "multiple David" thing as well as the intention of making the new film more "Alieny" earlier this year. Not sure if it was from the same source/informant as yours?
Quotehttp://www.thewrap.com/prometheus-2-lands-green-lantern-writer-may-feature-multiple-michael-fassbenders-exclusive/
They reported it also, but I think they had a different source. We had 2, who both mentioned it but we took as rumor. The one was on Twitter the second wished to remain anonymous. Our anon source however did mention the revisitation of LV-223, so it'll be interesting to see if that gets confirmed as well.
So far everything they've leaked is being confirmed which means, if that continues, we're in for a badass movie. Kind of disappointed Shaw takes a backseat in this one though.
I have always wondered about shaw getting infected after she had sex with an infected holloway. Who says she doesn't start to change albeit very slowly. And somehow becomes aware of and links to a hivemind of somekind. Maybe she somehow morphs and becomes part of some kind of bio mechanical god - monstrosity.
According to THR:
Other casting hasn't been confirmed, although Scott did say that Prometheus 1 star Noomi Rapace will only appear briefly in Covenant. Scott is keen to use Australian actors, revealing that that he wanted Cate Blanchett for The Martian but she was unavailable.
Now the only question is- will he give that Ooze a try, grow four arms and have strange plants growing out of the Covenant?
Quote from: oduodu on Nov 27, 2015, 07:31:54 PM
I have always wondered about shaw getting infected after she had sex with an infected holloway. Who says she doesn't start to change albeit very slowly. And somehow becomes aware of and links to a hivemind of somekind. Maybe she somehow morphs and becomes part of some kind of bio mechanical god - monstrosity.
Ive always thought this would have also been the way to move forward from Alien Resurrection. The queen developed a human reproductive cycle, so why not have Ripley mutate more, after being turned on or something, she develops something along the lines of the Alien reproductive cycle.
Ripley lays an egg. How novel.
Egg laying mammal? lol. She wouldn't be the first. On the other hand, the title 'Ripley 8, Monotreme' does sound cool.
All the same, there's a great opportunity to explore Ripley 8's unique composition, especially as the character develops potential conflicts... Is she Human? ...or more Alien? How can such a hybrid come to such a resolution? There's a lot about Ripley 8 that a new movie could explore and benefit from.
-Windebieste.
Exactly! I always interested in seeing Ripley 8 evolve! Character or Creature wise. They should at least release a comic or something. Or maybe we should write one and pitch it!
HICKS should the top 2 threads here be merged since they basically about the same thing?
Quote from: windebieste on Nov 28, 2015, 04:00:04 AM
'Ripley 8, Monotreme'
Win!
Also, yes, more Fassbender can only be a good thing. I'm optimistic about this film.
One big Pro with multiple David's is, if you've seen one, you've seen them all ;D ::) ;D
Quote from: Shamo on Nov 28, 2015, 03:03:21 AM
Now the only question is- will he give that Ooze a try, grow four arms and have strange plants growing out of the Covenant?
Another vote for black goo on plants.
Quote from: Chris P on Nov 27, 2015, 07:24:31 PM
Our anon source however did mention the revisitation of LV-223, ... Kind of disappointed Shaw takes a backseat in this one though.
I'm very fond of
Prometheus but it's time to move on. No need to see this moon in the sequels, unless something important has to be found, but what ? ... Quotes are good enough imo.
I also share your disappointment about Shaw. So I hope her appearences on screen are going to be rich emotionally speaking.
Quote from: PrimitifAlien on Nov 28, 2015, 10:22:35 PM
Quote from: Shamo on Nov 28, 2015, 03:03:21 AM
Now the only question is- will he give that Ooze a try, grow four arms and have strange plants growing out of the Covenant?
Another vote for black goo on plants.
Quote from: Chris P on Nov 27, 2015, 07:24:31 PM
Our anon source however did mention the revisitation of LV-223, ... Kind of disappointed Shaw takes a backseat in this one though.
I'm very fond of Prometheus but it's time to move on. No need to see this moon in the sequels, unless something important has to be found, but what ? ... Quotes are good enough imo.
I also share your disappointment about Shaw. So I hope her appearences on screen are going to be rich emotionally speaking.
LV 223 is another loose end. But for whatever reason I also don't want to see what happens there in this movie.
Shaw will play a small role, so she will probably be in a flashback scene or two, on how she finds stuff and eventually gets killed or used by David with death as the end for her.
So i dont hope they go for the movie where there are no engineers and its all about psycho David who kills everybody slowly,
and experimenting on them.
Because going on on David is the same as going on on Ripley and stuff, its all done in Alien, seeing Ash go nuts and sabotaging,
same with David in Prometheus, this all sounds so familiar.....a flying Delorean?.....oh wait different movie...lets just hope,
Ridley really needs to go for the mystery and engineer stuff instead of the fubar android, even though worker Joe's where creepy in Isolation,
and are probably creepier then a xeno....with Giger gone and thus very little to none influence of some weird creations,
im very afraid Ridles will go down the path of the android haywire stuff,
its just another milk it dry we all seen it before.
I could be wrong thoug. :D
Quote from: PrimitifAlien on Nov 28, 2015, 10:22:35 PM
Quote from: Shamo on Nov 28, 2015, 03:03:21 AM
Now the only question is- will he give that Ooze a try, grow four arms and have strange plants growing out of the Covenant?
Another vote for black goo on plants.
Quote from: Chris P on Nov 27, 2015, 07:24:31 PM
Our anon source however did mention the revisitation of LV-223, ... Kind of disappointed Shaw takes a backseat in this one though.
I'm very fond of Prometheus but it's time to move on. No need to see this moon in the sequels, unless something important has to be found, but what ? ... Quotes are good enough imo.
I also share your disappointment about Shaw. So I hope her appearences on screen are going to be rich emotionally speaking.
There were 3 or 4 temples on LV-223 that were never explored. I'm not saying there is anything different in any of the other temples, but you never know! Clearly Shaw and David had to go into another one to get to a fresh Juggernaut. It would be a kicker if the ship they took off in had a few Engineers in Cryo along for the ride.
That always bugged me about Charlie Holloways reaction to finding some dead Engineers. I remember thinking as I watched the movie in the theater, "You've got more temples to explore you dumbsh1t".
Quote from: Infected on Nov 29, 2015, 02:20:32 PM
Shaw will play a small role, so she will probably be in a flashback scene or two, on how she finds stuff and eventually gets killed or used by David with death as the end for her.
So i dont hope they go for the movie where there are no engineers and its all about psycho David who kills everybody slowly,
and experimenting on them.
Because going on on David is the same as going on on Ripley and stuff, its all done in Alien, seeing Ash go nuts and sabotaging,
same with David in Prometheus, this all sounds so familiar.....a flying Delorean?.....oh wait different movie...lets just hope,
Ridley really needs to go for the mystery and engineer stuff instead of the fubar android, even though worker Joe's where creepy in Isolation,
and are probably creepier then a xeno....with Giger gone and thus very little to none influence of some weird creations,
im very afraid Ridles will go down the path of the android haywire stuff,
its just another milk it dry we all seen it before.
I could be wrong thoug. :D
I completely agree. Please don't give me a movie with a psycho android working autonomously using Alien tech to experiment on humans. I'm hoping the covenant is between David and some surviving Engineers.
Prometheus focussed much on the tunnelvision the crew had, enter the planet with no plan, never took the time to explore the other temples etc
And the only Covenant in the movie will be the ships name the colonist arrive in,
thats what i got out of it.
Could be wrong though :D
Could be they indeed hook up with someone or thing.
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 29, 2015, 04:30:30 PM
That always bugged me about Charlie Holloways reaction to finding some dead Engineers. I remember thinking as I watched the movie in the theater, "You've got more temples to explore you dumbsh1t".
It bugged me he was so depressed with that discovery. That discovery, regardless of the Engineers being alive or not, was still monumental.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 30, 2015, 08:16:20 AM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 29, 2015, 04:30:30 PM
That always bugged me about Charlie Holloways reaction to finding some dead Engineers. I remember thinking as I watched the movie in the theater, "You've got more temples to explore you dumbsh1t".
It bugged me he was so depressed with that discovery. That discovery, regardless of the Engineers being alive or not, was still monumental.
Yep, that was another of Lindelof's brilliant contributions.
In the original Spaihts script, Holloway made it very clear from the beginning that he wasn't expecting to find any aliens still alive. Because as in the real world, it would be highly unlikely for humans to encounter another sentient space-faring species within our own existential timeframe.
In fact, Holloway was
really ecstatic to find the Engineer remains and quite rightly so, because dead or alive, finding a sentient alien race would be mankind's greatest discovery
ever.
Yes that part of the movie was silly beyond belief. He wanted to know the answers to the big questions about life on the same maturity level as a 5-year old and threw a temper tantrum in the same way when he was denied. That is so unlikely for a Doctor, and especially when they just started to scratch the surface of what they found. The fact that they all jumped to the same conclusion that "they're all dead" is ludicrous.
One of many character issues with Prometheus.
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f**k, I still hate that part the most about Prometheus. It's wasn't even one day and yet everyone got bored and wanted to go home. The Characters sucked, moestly.
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Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 29, 2015, 04:30:30 PM
That always bugged me about Charlie Holloways reaction to finding some dead Engineers. I remember thinking as I watched the movie in the theater, "You've got more temples to explore you dumbsh1t".
I see Holloway is getting a unanimous dislike for his behavior here. I can understand it and I respect your taste. For sure, finding an Engineer, even dead, is still a big step in the field of discovery for mankind and being happy about it is more of a an adult way to apprehend the situation. He could also, as you say Mustangjeff, be patient and give it a try on the other pyramids, and why not, on other places of the moon.
He surely imagined a completely different destination and he probably felt there was nothing there. The disappointment was so big that his rational part sliped away.
I don't mind how he reacted on a personal level, he is coherent with his character of great integrity, like taking off his helmet, saying to David he is ready to do everything and anything, suiciding to prevent the crew of contamination (even if it is too late).
It is also coherent with Damon Lindelof's phrase of
''not responding to 'safe' in writing'' QuoteThere were 3 or 4 temples on LV-223 that were never explored. I'm not saying there is anything different in any of the other temples, but you never know! Clearly Shaw and David had to go into another one to get to a fresh Juggernaut.
I imagine the other pyramids also being places to experiment and give birth to goo related creatures, with other species than we saw in the first one (human and pre-Xenomorph species, head between knees).
But it could be something different, yes. Still, Shaw's heading to Paradise by saying :
''There is only death here now, and I'm leaving it behind''. Is it a quick assertion or they checked more the place to reach this conclusion ?
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It would be a kicker if the ship they took off in had a few Engineers in Cryo along for the ride.
You are talking about some hidden cryotubes then. If I were them, I would carefully check no one is on board, given the slight dispute that occured in a recent past !
Isn't Shaw supposed to go the engineers' home world?
Quote from: PrimitifAlien on Dec 03, 2015, 08:07:04 PM
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Nov 29, 2015, 04:30:30 PM
That always bugged me about Charlie Holloways reaction to finding some dead Engineers. I remember thinking as I watched the movie in the theater, "You've got more temples to explore you dumbsh1t".
I see Holloway is getting a unanimous dislike for his behavior here. I can understand it and I respect your taste. For sure, finding an Engineer, even dead, is still a big step in the field of discovery for mankind and being happy about it is more of a an adult way to apprehend the situation. He could also, as you say Mustangjeff, be patient and give it a try on the other pyramids, and why not, on other places of the moon.
He surely imagined a completely different destination and he probably felt there was nothing there. The disappointment was so big that his rational part sliped away.
I don't mind how he reacted on a personal level, he is coherent with his character of great integrity, like taking off his helmet, saying to David he is ready to do everything and anything, suiciding to prevent the crew of contamination (even if it is too late).
It is also coherent with Damon Lindelof's phrase of ''not responding to 'safe' in writing''
QuoteThere were 3 or 4 temples on LV-223 that were never explored. I'm not saying there is anything different in any of the other temples, but you never know! Clearly Shaw and David had to go into another one to get to a fresh Juggernaut.
I imagine the other pyramids also being places to experiment and give birth to goo related creatures, with other species than we saw in the first one (human and pre-Xenomorph species, head between knees).
But it could be something different, yes. Still, Shaw's heading to Paradise by saying :
''There is only death here now, and I'm leaving it behind''. Is it a quick assertion or they checked more the place to reach this conclusion ?
Quote
It would be a kicker if the ship they took off in had a few Engineers in Cryo along for the ride.
You are talking about some hidden cryotubes then. If I were them, I would carefully check no one is on board, given the slight dispute that occured in a recent past !
This OTHER PYRAMIDS thing, is to me, the biggest oversight w/ Prometheus. Not because they didnt explore them in the movie, but because it is INFERRED at the end that Shaw had to drag David's head through one of the other Pyramids to find another ship and fly it out of there,.. Aside from the fact that them flying the ship by themselves, warrants another scene NOT included in the film, by itself... I am annoyed with the idea that we dont see what happened when they schmaltz through these other pyramids to find another working ship. Did nothing of any interest happen in those pyramids? Am I supposed to think it was "La-di-da and now another identical pyramid with all the same stuff and ooo! Here! We found another ship... Peace!" And they lived happily ever after?
Its a big script problem for me.
That script overall could not decide how real-timey it wanted its events to unfold in.
Good points well made
Quote from: CainsSon on Dec 04, 2015, 07:35:50 AM
This OTHER PYRAMIDS thing, is to me, the biggest oversight w/ Prometheus. Not because they didnt explore them in the movie, but because it is INFERRED at the end that Shaw had to drag David's head through one of the other Pyramids to find another ship and fly it out of there,.. Aside from the fact that them flying the ship by themselves, warrants another scene NOT included in the film, by itself... I am annoyed with the idea that we dont see what happened when they schmaltz through these other pyramids to find another working ship. Did nothing of any interest happen in those pyramids? Am I supposed to think it was "La-di-da and now another identical pyramid with all the same stuff and ooo! Here! We found another ship... Peace!" And they lived happily ever after?
Well yes, we are probably supposed to think that :) ... David said to Shaw there were many other ships.
If it is redundant and time consuming (Shaw dragging David's body and head through another pyramid, or more), they won't expand on it, like 'our first alien' deleted scene when Milburn finds a lifeform and is excited about it (they decided to cut it out because they thought they had to expand more on it, give enough explanations to the audience).
They still could have met halfway and put some short scenes to clear up things : are the other pyramids more or less the same ?
From a pacing perspective, it is interesting to see that them getting out of the Juggernaut is slow action, then the buggy scene is fast action, finally followed by speed of light action with the new ship taking off.
QuoteThat script overall could not decide how real-timey it wanted its events to unfold in.
This is a nice sentence, I'll memorize it !
At the risk of being off topic to it, arrival of Prometheus to LV-223 is 21st december and departure from it is 1st January, say 11 days. But a day overthere surely doesn't match Earth time, taking into account rotation period and orbit around the planet. When Janek says to the lost guys that they are going to fetch them in the morning, it could be the equivalent of few
Earth days...
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Fassbender is wearing a Covenant ship hat. He also doesn't look like he has blond hair. Is this our second David? He comes on the Covenant?
Is that picture telling us that David is a Space Trucker in A:C?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 17, 2016, 07:54:30 AM
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Fassbender is wearing a Covenant ship hat. He also doesn't look like he has blond hair. Is this our second David? He comes on the Covenant?
Good morning Corporal. Was already posted in the social media thread yesterday. :P
It's good to see the original Egyptian winged Weylan Yutani logo again. Prometheus' one just never did it for me.
I know but you weren't talking about what I said here! :P
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 17, 2016, 01:40:58 PM
It's good to see the original Egyptian winged Weylan Yutani logo again. Prometheus' one just never did it for me.
Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I liked the Prometheus one - you could see the hints of the wings - but it's nice to see them back in earnest for Covenant.
I guess Convic the skatepark builders are involved in creating some of the curved interiors of the flying croissant ship or maybe alien terrain.
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 17, 2016, 07:54:30 AM
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Fassbender is wearing a Covenant ship hat. He also doesn't look like he has blond hair. Is this our second David? He comes on the Covenant?
Good morning Corporal. Was already posted in the social media thread yesterday. :P
It's good to see the original Egyptian winged Weylan Yutani logo again. Prometheus' one just never did it for me.
Wait, so... I can't see it personally but are you able to make out the YUTANI connection from that badge on his hat? For sure?
You guys have got a real hard-on for Fassbender.
I don't get it.
Quote from: Primordial on Dec 05, 2015, 01:03:06 AM
Quote from: CainsSon on Dec 04, 2015, 07:35:50 AM
If it is redundant and time consuming (Shaw dragging David's body and head through another pyramid, or more), they won't expand on it, like 'our first alien' deleted scene when Milburn finds a lifeform and is excited about it (they decided to cut it out because they thought they had to expand more on it, give enough explanations to the audience).
They still could have met halfway and put some short scenes to clear up things : are the other pyramids more or less the same ?
From a pacing perspective, it is interesting to see that them getting out of the Juggernaut is slow action, then the buggy scene is fast action, finally followed by speed of light action with the new ship taking off.
QuoteThat script overall could not decide how real-timey it wanted its events to unfold in.
This is a nice sentence, I'll memorize it !
At the risk of being off topic to it, arrival of Prometheus to LV-223 is 21st december and departure from it is 1st January, say 11 days. But a day overthere surely doesn't match Earth time, taking into account rotation period and orbit around the planet. When Janek says to the lost guys that they are going to fetch them in the morning, it could be the equivalent of few Earth days...
I don't mean to say they should have just shown them going through those other pyramids, so much as I'm saying it seems odd that going through them wouldn't have made for further story developments.
To me PROMETHEUS should have ended with SHAW staring at the sky, when David says "It's not the only ship..."
Then the next film should have been about them trying to leave LV223 and dealing with the Deacon while exploring those other pyramids.
Just my two cents...
Mod note - Fixed the quotes. Corporal Hicks.
Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 18, 2016, 02:41:06 AM
Wait, so... I can't see it personally but are you able to make out the YUTANI connection from that badge on his hat? For sure?
I can't see it exactly but you can definitely see it looks more like the original winged logo of Weylan-Yutani from Alien than it does the Weyland Corporation/Industries from Prometheus.
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Quote from: Vermillion on Apr 18, 2016, 02:42:33 AM
You guys have got a real hard-on for Fassbender.
I don't get it.
He was the best part of Prometheus. And he's a wonderful actor.
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Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 18, 2016, 02:41:06 AM
Wait, so... I can't see it personally but are you able to make out the YUTANI connection from that badge on his hat? For sure?
I can't see it exactly but you can definitely see it looks more like the original winged logo of Weylan-Yutani from Alien than it does the Weyland Corporation/Industries from Prometheus.
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Quote from: Vermillion on Apr 18, 2016, 02:42:33 AM
You guys have got a real hard-on for Fassbender.
I don't get it.
He was the best part of Prometheus. And he's a wonderful actor.
Brilliant actor. Agreed.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 18, 2016, 07:36:29 AM
Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 18, 2016, 02:41:06 AM
Wait, so... I can't see it personally but are you able to make out the YUTANI connection from that badge on his hat? For sure?
I can't see it exactly but you can definitely see it looks more like the original winged logo of Weylan-Yutani from Alien than it does the Weyland Corporation/Industries from Prometheus.
It's definitely the old WY logo from Alien, no doubt about it. Not sure if it will be in the film though, that might just be a crew cap someone cobbled together for those working on the picture. I can't see Fassbender being so unprofessional as to walk around in public with an actual prop from the film on his head.
If it is the actual WY logo in the film then it means two things.
- The merger between Weyland and Yutani has already happened in the ten years since Prometheus.
- The Covenant is a Weyland Yutani ship.
Unless it's not deemed as that big of a deal. Security seems to be really relaxed around this.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 18, 2016, 02:42:25 PM
If it is the actual WY logo in the film then it means two things.
- The merger between Weyland and Yutani has already happened in the ten years since Prometheus.
- The Covenant is a Weyland Yutani ship.
Indeed. And how would that effect the story if that's the case.
So, the Covenant ship has its own David?
That's my current thinking.
Benjamin Rigby wasn't sure whether he'd get to work with Fassbender. So it seems unlikely there are any other "David's" aboard the Covenant.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 18, 2016, 08:12:11 PM
Benjamin Rigby wasn't sure whether he'd get to work with Fassbender. So it seems unlikely there are any other "David's" aboard the Covenant.
How can we be sure Ben Rigby is a) on the ship at all or b) not just killed before he has the opportunity to interact.
Its impossible to know whats happening.
Rigby could be a company man who appears on monitors for all we know, or some bizarre Engineer or God even!
As for the hat, it could be crew merch. Productions give that stuff out to crew and they wear the stuff on set. T shirts, jackets, hoodies,... Ive seen backpacks and all kinds of stuff.
Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 19, 2016, 02:48:34 AM
How can we be sure Ben Rigby is a) on the ship at all or b) not just killed before he has the opportunity to interact.
Because Ben said he had a significant role.
Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 19, 2016, 02:48:34 AMAs for the hat, it could be crew merch. Productions give that stuff out to crew and they wear the stuff on set. T shirts, jackets, hoodies,... Ive seen backpacks and all kinds of stuff.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 18, 2016, 02:42:25 PM
Not sure if it will be in the film though, that might just be a crew cap someone cobbled together for those working on the picture.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 18, 2016, 02:42:25 PM
If it is the actual WY logo in the film then it means two things.
- The merger between Weyland and Yutani has already happened in the ten years since Prometheus.
- The Covenant is a Weyland Yutani ship.
If we're going by the WY Report; then yes the merger happens in the time frame between these two films.
Good to know. I remember S.D Perry mentioning that certain changes were made to the book in order to accommodate the new film.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 19, 2016, 02:25:49 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 19, 2016, 02:48:34 AM
How can we be sure Ben Rigby is a) on the ship at all or b) not just killed before he has the opportunity to interact.
Because Ben said he had a significant role.
Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 19, 2016, 02:48:34 AMAs for the hat, it could be crew merch. Productions give that stuff out to crew and they wear the stuff on set. T shirts, jackets, hoodies,... Ive seen backpacks and all kinds of stuff.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 18, 2016, 02:42:25 PM
Not sure if it will be in the film though, that might just be a crew cap someone cobbled together for those working on the picture.
I noticed DAVID wore a similar logo on his shirt in the DAVID 8 commercial during the PROM promotion.
All of the Prometheus crew wore that logo on their shirts in the film.
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It's not the same one as seen in Alien and on Fassbender's cap. It was a design specifically created for Prometheus.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 19, 2016, 08:34:03 PM
All of the Prometheus crew wore that logo on their shirts in the film.
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It's not the same one as seen in Alien and on Fassbender's cap. It was a design specifically created for Prometheus.
Cool. Could that be the same one?
It's the same one as seen on David's shirt in the commercial and in the film but not the same one as seen on Fassbender's cap.