the person that I think would do a good job of direction this movie would have to be Zack Snyder you know the one that directed the hit movie "300". I think he would be good for this movie because everybody thought "300" was going to be a bad movie but it turned out to the one of the best movies of 2007, so it would be good to see what he would come up with but I wouldnt want that whole slow motion thing or the blood he did for "300" to be in it though.
^^ I think he will do a good job on a AVP movie, he did the dawn of the dead remake and it was good. What about Alex Proyas who directed The Crow, Dark City and I, Robot!
I agree, he could do a good job, just no slow-mo shots. We got some of that in AVP.
Zack Snyder, Alex Proyas and Guillermo del Toro who can do a good AVP movie beside Ridley Scott or James Cameron. I woun't mind Colin Strause returns if Shane Salerno or Dan O'Bannon dons't return.
Return the brothers Strause, if not bring in Ridley or james, if not bring in Zack Snyder.
I beleive the brothers Strause can do better, this was their first movie, now that they know their mistakes, they can make a better one, I think they did a good job
Quote from: Plokoon111 on Dec 29, 2007, 04:30:24 AM
Return the brothers Strause, if not bring in Ridley or james, if not bring in Zack Snyder.
i dont think Zack Snyder is available in the near future...i believe he's directing 'The Watchmen', 'The Illustrated Man', and possibly Army of the Dead (a sequel to Dawn of the Dead)
Quote from: Veteran Warrior on Dec 29, 2007, 04:21:34 AM
I agree, he could do a good job, just no slow-mo shots. We got some of that in AVP.
And that didnt work out too well now did it? I would agree with ratchetcommand, and of those directors could direct an AVP movie. As for the Strause Brothers, I am reserving judgement until I see the film in its entirety for myself.
Alex Proyas did I, Robot and Dark City, i think may do a great AVP if he keeps the story rigth like he did with The Crow.
Del Toro would give the Aliens tentacles. No thanks.
Quote from: Veteran Warrior on Dec 29, 2007, 04:33:00 AM
I beleive the brothers Strause can do better, this was their first movie, now that they know their mistakes, they can make a better one, I think they did a good job
Yeah people are assholes. How can they get something perfect on their first movie. If partnered with a guy with the experience it would be awesome, because I believe the brothers actually have a vision for aliens and predators with an AVP3, instead of someguy who is just directing what someone else wrote.
Interesting initial choice.
The fact that they care, and actually directed avpr good, and had the feeling of the old films tells me that they don't want to f**k up the aliens on purpose, they want a good movie, and they want it to be a hit.
Quote from: Plokoon111 on Dec 29, 2007, 04:52:09 AM
they don't want to f**k up the aliens on purpose, they want a good movie, and they want it to be a hit.
they did, not a good movie, it won't be
If not the obvious James Cameron or Ridley Scott, I vote for Danny Boyle. :)
Quote from: Plokoon111 on Dec 29, 2007, 04:52:09 AM
The fact that they care, and actually directed avpr good, and had the feeling of the old films tells me that they don't want to f**k up the aliens on purpose, they want a good movie, and they want it to be a hit.
Yes, i got the feeling with the number of planned and used homages that they are really psyched to do the movie and give a shit about the franchises. Colin does post here of course which is amazing :o.
It would be awesome if he took some stuff from this forum for an AVP3 if he was directing with his brother. My preference would be bro's and someone experienced to help with pacing, characters.
Quote from: wolfboy22 on Dec 29, 2007, 04:17:03 AM
the person that I think would do a good job of direction this movie would have to be Zack Snyder you know the one that directed the hit movie "300". I think he would be good for this movie because everybody thought "300" was going to be a bad movie but it turned out to the one of the best movies of 2007, so it would be good to see what he would come up with but I wouldnt want that whole slow motion thing or the blood he did for "300" to be in it though.
He'd be great.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 29, 2007, 05:03:57 AM
Quote from: wolfboy22 on Dec 29, 2007, 04:17:03 AM
the person that I think would do a good job of direction this movie would have to be Zack Snyder you know the one that directed the hit movie "300". I think he would be good for this movie because everybody thought "300" was going to be a bad movie but it turned out to the one of the best movies of 2007, so it would be good to see what he would come up with but I wouldnt want that whole slow motion thing or the blood he did for "300" to be in it though.
He'd be great.
hell yea see even I do a better job than Fox lol
Fox's stupidity just amazes me. Yeah it's easy for me to SAY that, but I am truly amazed at their unintelligent decisions. Awe-struck.
yea Fox has made a lot of mistakes thats why I should be in charge because I make good decisions like this one lol
Danny Boyle- Director of 28 Days Later
or
Juan Carlos Fresnadillo- Director of 28 Weeks Later.
they would be my first choices for AVP3, however I wouldent mind the Strause Bros again, as long as they get rid of Salerno.
Of course there is always an element of luck in getting the right man for the job but who do you guys think COULD pull off an AvP film and why ??
I think Zak Snyder could as his films have rocked so far. I also like Len Wiseman, i enjoyed the underworld films and thought he did a good job with the action on live free, die hard. Robert rodriguez on sin city and from dusk till dawn form too, how i wish they'd let him make Pred 3 !
Yeah I was thinking Wiseman as well. However it depends on the budget and if he actually likes the franchise. I was also thinking about James McTeigue who did V for Vendetta.
paul anderson and the strause brothers unite.
YAY :o :o :o
you should put a question mark instead of an exclamation point.
i know this wont happen but if there was oneperson i would want to direct AVP 3 it wouldbe James Cameron. I mean if you kew James Cameron was going to direct then u no for sure that the movie is gonna be remarkable.
if zack snyder or len wise directed avp 3 i would be so happy my head would explode :D
Cameron or I don't want another any more AvP.
Zak Snyder would be good.
Len Wiseman would be ok, however I dont like the direction Die Hard 4 went. It wasn't bad, but to me it seemed different. Im sure Indy 4 will be the same way.
Cameron would be a dream, but I know he wouldn't touch it with a mile long stick.
They could let Reny Harlin make the movie he wanted to back when Alien 3 was being developed
as far as direction goes, the strauses are fine. but the script...
...is another story :P
avp3 on green screen in the mould of 300 on another planet with different monsters aliens blah,blah.how cool would that look in a golden colour.straight away it would insert some atmosphere to a franchise recently lacking in it.
get lena headey for some sex scenes again.
very nice!
Quoteavp3 on green screen in the mould of 300 on another planet with different monsters aliens blah,blah.how cool would that look in a golden colour
Not very.
300 worked because it was a visual adaptation of Frank Miller's unique art style. It's not a formula you can just apply to anything and everything and expect it to work.
too bad zack snyder is busy with other movies right now
QuoteZak Snyder to direct AvP 3 !
DEAR GOD, NO!!!!! >:(
I hated 300. The only way I could enjoy that ..... thing was with Mike Nelson's hilarious Rifftrax. As for Dawn of the Dead, I'm not that interested in zombie flicks, even moreso remakes of zombie flicks. Tried to watch Night of the Living Dead, but it just isn't my thing. Neither are pretentious over-the-top supposed epics like 300. What's everyone so excited about, I have really no idea.
If you want my opinion, I'd love to see what Sam Raimi could do on AVP. He's done great work with all 3 Spider-Man movies and it would be an interesting experience.
Aliens vs Predator: Dawn of the 300 Aliens
I really liked the dawn of the dead remake, but I didnt like 300. I dont imagine him ever doing an alien or pred film though, I cant see where he would take it to be honest.
George Lucas.
;D
Please no. Zak Snyder sucks.
What about J. J. Abrams?
^^ I think lost is terrible :(
^Mission: Impossible III and Cloverfield where great. I woun't mind seeing him do a AVP movie.
Quote from: stickaround on Jan 18, 2008, 11:38:16 PM
Zak Snyder could as his films have rocked so far.
God I don't want him to turn AvP3 into some phantasmagoric comic book come to life
Quote from: happypred on Jan 19, 2008, 08:32:22 PM
Quote from: stickaround on Jan 18, 2008, 11:38:16 PM
Zak Snyder could as his films have rocked so far.
God I don't want him to turn AvP3 into some phantasmagoric comic book come to life
300 sucks, yes. But the dawn of the dead remake was good, but I stil dont want him doing an AvP film.
Quote from: stickaround on Jan 18, 2008, 11:38:16 PM
Of course there is always an element of luck in getting the right man for the job but who do you guys think COULD pull off an AvP film and why ??
I think Zak Snyder could as his films have rocked so far. I also like Len Wiseman, i enjoyed the underworld films and thought he did a good job with the action on live free, die hard. Robert rodriguez on sin city and from dusk till dawn form too, how i wish they'd let him make Pred 3 !
I really hate it when people make the subject title look like news. Don't do it again.
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 19, 2008, 09:15:09 PM
Quote from: stickaround on Jan 18, 2008, 11:38:16 PM
Of course there is always an element of luck in getting the right man for the job but who do you guys think COULD pull off an AvP film and why ??
I think Zak Snyder could as his films have rocked so far. I also like Len Wiseman, i enjoyed the underworld films and thought he did a good job with the action on live free, die hard. Robert rodriguez on sin city and from dusk till dawn form too, how i wish they'd let him make Pred 3 !
I really hate it when people make the subject title look like news. Don't do it again.
LOL It does have a, what the hell factor to it.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Jan 19, 2008, 08:22:02 PM
^Mission: Impossible III and Cloverfield where great. I woun't mind seeing him do a AVP movie.
He didn't direct Cloverfield.
This is why I hate it when producers stick their names everywhere. Same deal with The Nightmare Before Christmas - Everyone assumes Tim Burton directed it.
Quote from: happypred on Jan 19, 2008, 08:32:22 PM
Quote from: stickaround on Jan 18, 2008, 11:38:16 PM
Zak Snyder could as his films have rocked so far.
God I don't want him to turn AvP3 into some phantasmagoric comic book come to life
The reason 300 looked like a comic book was because it was supposed too...
Quote from: SiL on Jan 19, 2008, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Jan 19, 2008, 08:22:02 PM
^Mission: Impossible III and Cloverfield where great. I woun't mind seeing him do a AVP movie.
He didn't direct Cloverfield.
This is why I hate it when producers stick their names everywhere. Same deal with The Nightmare Before Christmas - Everyone assumes Tim Burton directed it.
I knew about Cloverfield, but not Nightmare.
Uwe Boll
lol jk
that would be a real disaster... :P
I think a decent director would be obviously James Cameron, but that won't ever happen.
Not many decent directors I can think of would want to touch a sequel to a bad sequel to a bad movie.
I say Renny Harlin hes a decent action director.
Quote from: nukem11 on Jan 19, 2008, 09:43:52 PM
I say Renny Harlin hes a decent action director.
But he seems more like a
stock director he's not very memorable and makes ok action films, never anything brilliant, mostly just ok.
Quote from: severen76 on Jan 19, 2008, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: nukem11 on Jan 19, 2008, 09:43:52 PM
I say Renny Harlin hes a decent action director.
But he seems more like a stock director he's not very memorable and makes ok action films, never anything brilliant, mostly just ok.
Yeah but thats all were gonna get and hes better than anderson and the bros put together.
Were never gonna get ridley scott directors for this.
What about Alex Proyas for AVP3?
Guiellrmo Del Toro would be good too I bet
I like Robert Rodriguez's movies, but they are way too over the top for the delicate operation of making an Avp movie. I really have no idea though. It's usually a hit or miss with any director for these kind of movies.
Dream choice? Zack Snyder, just as it is for just about any movie I'm looking forward to without a director.
Realistic choice? I'd be perfectly fine, probably even quite happy, if the Strause Bros. returned.
So many of the directors of the films from both franchises were constrained by time and budget on their films, that seeing them get another shot with more freedom is almost a must, I think the Bros could deliver a near perfect film if given another shot.
u know that everyone wants Ridley scott or james cameron but that probably wont happen.
:(
strause bros. return to direct....but ridley scott produces and edits the script
^^^^^^Im cool with that^^^^^^^
my own personal idea would be have Ridley Direct a trilogy. An Alien Film, a Predator Film and to culminate everything and wrap up the series an AvP film.
You could have a big story arc over the 3 movies where the main character who survives the Alien movie and the main character who survives the Predator movie are brought together for the mother of all them in a climactic AvP final. You know where Fox goes f**k it and throws like 200-250 mills for the 3. Something for everybody.
Daft I know but I can dream
The Strause Bros! Loads of ppl knock them for avp-r...but the directing was good. They made an enjoyable movie,the only bad things were acting (which was to do with the budget) and the script (and they added the scene at the end to make sure avp3 is in the future)...so really i think they'd be a good and realistic choice.
McTiernan would make a great AvP3
The Strause Brothers ;D
Seeing how well they did with a low budget film, just imagine how good it will be with a big budget.
lets face it no big name director will ever touch this franchise, its like getting martin scorsese to direct saw 5 it just will never happen, i think the strause brothers did a good job with what they had to work with, let them write the next one as well. not salerno.
Quote from: Richman678 on Jan 19, 2008, 11:27:15 PM
Guiellrmo Del Toro would be good too I bet
That would be awesome. The guy's pretty good at building up suspense (eg 'Mimic' and 'Devil's Backbone'), he has a decent taste in action movies and makes up awesome weaponry (eg 'Blade II' and 'Hellboy'). A good balance between Alien and Predator, I feel. Could be unlikely, but if Del Toro would direct, that would mark a BIG improvement for AVP3.
I wonder if Roland Emmerich (Stargate, Independance Day, the Patriot) would be interested to tackle AVP3, after wrapping up his producoitn on '10,000 BC'. That's another thought...what do you guys think?
EDIT: Oh, yeah. I forgot to add Ronny Yu, since I thought he did a great job on the fight scenes in Freddy Vs. Jason (although I can't quite say the same for the story and other characters).
as long as the the strauses and anderson dont direct i really dont care who gets to do avp3.
Ronny Yu never touching these franchises would be a blessing to me. If you think they're not taken seriously anymore, you're not prepared for the dismissal people will give an AVP film with Yu attached.
Strause all the Way for Director ...
Writer? Hmm .. I dont know, would be cool if Cameron ... no Salerno ;).
greetz
Strouses because they try hard. And they are the cheapest and most likely director. And they will learn from mistakes duh
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Jan 23, 2008, 08:28:54 AM
Ronny Yu never touching these franchises would be a blessing to me. If you think they're not taken seriously anymore, you're not prepared for the dismissal people will give an AVP film with Yu attached.
I take it that you didn't really like Freddy Vs. Jason?
Either way, I still have Del Toro and Emmerich as my top candidates. I don't really mind too much about the Strause brothers directing again, though a new director would be a nice change.
EDIT: Like said earlier, Renny Harlin seems fairly good to me too. :-\
Strouses because they try hard. And they are the cheapest and most likely director. And they will learn from mistakes duh
Yeh i believe so too,
as long as they know what mistakes they made for example: poor actors, bad plot, too dark most the time and the gore just sligtly going over the "ok, thats quite enough guts and blood line."
If they learn from those mistakes mate, then im more than happy for the Strauses to return.
Quote from: Corporal Harrison on Jan 23, 2008, 10:30:14 AM
too dark most the time
Like i said in another thread, this is NOT a Strause problem. I experienced it self ... and colin said it too. Smth. must went wrong with the prints or whatever ... i dont know.
greetz
Like i said in another thread, this is NOT a Strause problem. I experienced it self ... and colin said it too. Smth. must went wrong with the prints or whatever ... i dont know.
soz my bad,
I didnt know that.
I wonder what Bill paxton would do if placed into the directing chair.
Quote from: Alien3 on Jan 23, 2008, 11:13:17 AM
I wonder what Bill paxton would do if placed into the directing chair.
Make a cinematic masterpiece ;D
But truthfully, not sure if he could do it I saw fraility I thought it was very good, but its different from an avp film.
Bill paxtons the man, he would create a masterpiece! no doubts about it!
hmm good idea they should use Bill Paxton,
hes starred in An Aliens film AND a Predator film. Hes had good experience on action/sci-fi films like: Aliens, Predator 2, Terminator, True Lies and many more. If he has directed a movie before and has the experience to direct, then hell yeah i say go for it!!!
HELL YEAH!
Some one get in contact with him lets make him direct! order a partition all sign it.
WE WANT BILL PAXTON TO DIRECT!
haha
BILL PAXTON BILL PAXTON BILL PAXTON BILL PAXTON
EVERYONE JOIN IN
LOL
Alec Gillis and Tom Woodruff Jr.! I'd love to see their vision of AVP3 as directors. :)
Well, I can't really think of anyone who could pull it off. I mean, we want a good action film but we want some good actor direction too. Maybe, maybe Emmerich if he's given a really good script and good actors.
Stan Winston, come on the man who created the predator and queen alien, and has made some films before should be perfect to make an alien predator film!!!! it all makes sense.
Hmm, Roland Emmerich...that's funny. That would probaly also mean we get another score by Harald Kloser. I wouldn't mind that.
Considering these are 'vs' films, then perhaps finding a director who will portray these two iconic creatures in a favourable light might be a good first step. Hiring directorial fanboys with a blatant bias towards one or the other makes a mockery of the whole 'vs' handle.
I mean why bother?
There was this quote that was banded about prior to release of AVPR
"The only thing [director] Paul [W.S.] Anderson did correctly was bring people closer together in their community hatred of him."
Maybe so, but at least Anderson made an effort to bring some balance to the film and portray both creatures in a light favourable with their predecessors.People harp on about one alien taking out 2 predators in Anderson's effort. Oh my. One got ambushed and the other got nailed after a pretty fair scrap due to what could be called inexperience. The last one died to a mortal wound from an Alien Queen. Seems fair enough to me.
Is that vastly different from his flick where 1 predator gets ambushed on the ship, another one gets killed by the same predalien as he's trying to blow up the crashed ship and the 3rd got tail spiked the same as in AVP?
And judging by a lot of the critic reviews, fan reviews and comments about this latest incarnation, have the Strause's actually achieved anything more than what was quoted about Anderson above?
As an alien fan this film just fails terribly on all counts. As a predator fan what positive moments there are are simply overshadowed not only by the previous statement but the film as a whole. As a movie fan, this just doesn't cut the mustard.
Who ultimately is to blame? Fox? Salerno? The Strause's? Or just all of them to varying degrees.
What is important is that someone with some respect and some responsibility for these two IP's steps upto the mark and strives to ensure that whatever comes next is infinitely better.The Alien and Predator franchises deserve nothing less.
As a moot point, take the Star Wars IP. With the impending Star Wars TV show, do you really think George Lucas will allow writers and directors to reduce his baby to the level AVP-R has stooped to? I think not
anyone E X C E P T strause brothers.
actually anyone who is not a fan should direct it. people who is willing to make something new to the table, and who cares more about the depth of story and character development.
i want an avp movie with a greath depth in character and story like "the mist".
Uwe Boll!!!!
hahaha OBV JK
i wouldnt mind the Strause sisters directing.....that is if they got a different writer and a bad-ass original story featuring our favorite Colonial Marines
I can tell you somebody I DON'T want directing AVP3: McG. I think he seriously ruined 'Charlie's Angels' big time. And I'm not entirely sure how 'Terminator 4' is going to look under his directive eyes.
I wonder if David S. Goyer would be interested to write a script for AVP3, and then have Del Toro direct. That might make a decent AVP movie in the end, no?
The Strause bros, but if Fox could put away Salerno, thanks.
I'm fine with the Brothers Strausse directing it. AvP:R proved they can put out quality work. Give them a bigger budget and we can have a film worthy to be in the league of Aliens or Predator.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 23, 2008, 12:40:55 PM
Well, I can't really think of anyone who could pull it off. I mean, we want a good action film but we want some good actor direction too. Maybe, maybe Emmerich if he's given a really good script and good actors.
Oh please god no. Emmerich is a hack.
Gimme Danny Boyle any day.
I don't want Emmerich for a AVP movie, he just like Micheal Bay but worst.
Quote from: Aeus on Jan 23, 2008, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 23, 2008, 12:40:55 PM
Well, I can't really think of anyone who could pull it off. I mean, we want a good action film but we want some good actor direction too. Maybe, maybe Emmerich if he's given a really good script and good actors.
Oh please god no. Emmerich is a hack.
Gimme Danny Boyle any day.
yup universal soldier was good then taken a knose dive... in witch he had very good projects but made them pants.
I thought Independance day was ok.....
Bring back the Strauses, but off Shane and hire Charlie Kaufman... nah, just kidding. Hire Neil Gaiman.
I personally liked 'Independence Day', but for the same reasons as 'Eight Legged Freaks' (different directors, same producer) - lots of fun, understands its own flaws and doesn't take itself too seriously, as a result.
It was interesting to see 'The Patriot' take a much more serious view of things, in general.
Curiously, it was immediately following 'Universal Soldier' that the pair were rumoured to be lined up to do the original nineties version of 'Aliens Versus Predator'. If that was true, then they already were briefly involved in it.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 23, 2008, 06:46:40 PM
Hire Neil Gaiman.
That a good idea. He is a great writer.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 23, 2008, 05:14:08 PM
I'm fine with the Brothers Strausse directing it. AvP:R proved they can put out quality work. Give them a bigger budget and we can have a film worthy to be in the league of Aliens or Predator.
good god no! :o if you call avp-r "quality work" you need your head examined. the strauses have left their stain on the series and they should never direct anything ever again. not even traffic. its time we got real directors to make these movies. give me len wisemen or danny boyle, or hell even zack nyder. they can
at least make decent movies.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jan 23, 2008, 07:17:35 PM
I personally liked 'Independence Day', but for the same reasons as 'Eight Legged Freaks' (different directors, same producer) - lots of fun, understands its own flaws and doesn't take itself too seriously, as a result.
It was interesting to see 'The Patriot' take a much more serious view of things, in general.
Curiously, it was immediately following 'Universal Soldier' that the pair were rumorued to be lined up to do the original nineties version of 'Aliens Versus Predator'. If that was true, then they already were briefly involved in it.
In fact, I heard about that too somewhere. Again, I don't mind the Strause directing again. But I'd give Emmerich a chance.
Quote from: Charles Xavier on Jan 24, 2008, 12:11:04 AM
In fact, I heard about that too somewhere. Again, I don't mind the Strause directing again. But I'd give Emmerich a chance.
I wouldn't. Not after his pathetic excuse of a movie in Godzilla.
Also with crappy movies like The Day After Tomorrow, i don't want him to do a AVP movie. I think Paul Thomas Anderson should do a AVP movie.
I didn't really like 'Godzilla' myself either. I've never watched 'Day After Tomorrow' or 'Universal Soldier', so I can't really say anything about those films. But don't forget 'Stargate', 'Independence Day' and 'The Patriot', which were (IMO) awesome. ;)
I'll have to see how '10,000 BC' is like when it's released.
If anything, I think the Bros. should just work on the Predator side of the movie. I'd want either Danny Boyle or Matt Reeves. I'd say Steven Speilburg, but he might turn it into more of an adventure movie rather then Action/Horror. Micheal Bay would just turn everything into CGI and blow stuff up.. Paul W.S. Anderson might be good as long as he doesn't write or modify the script at all. It might be interesting to have J.J. Abrams on the project also, maybe as a Producer or Writer.
NO! NO PAUL ANDERSON!! YOU MUST NEVER SPEAK THAT NAME AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
Charles Thompson.
Robert Rodriguez
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 24, 2008, 05:25:25 AM
NO! NO PAUL ANDERSON!! YOU MUST NEVER SPEAK THAT NAME AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
I'm quite sure he meant a different one - Magnolia Anderson?
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Jan 24, 2008, 01:45:02 AM
Also with crappy movies like The Day After Tomorrow, i don't want him to do a AVP movie. I think Paul Thomas Anderson should do a AVP movie.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 24, 2008, 05:25:25 AM
NO! NO PAUL ANDERSON!! YOU MUST NEVER SPEAK THAT NAME AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
I was talking about Paul Thomas Anderson, who made There will be Blood and Magnolia
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/paul_thomas_anderson/
Roland Emmerich!
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Jan 24, 2008, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 24, 2008, 05:25:25 AM
NO! NO PAUL ANDERSON!! YOU MUST NEVER SPEAK THAT NAME AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
I was talking about Paul Thomas Anderson, who made There will be Blood and Magnolia
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/paul_thomas_anderson/
Ah! Well, that changes everything. Sorry!
Tim Burton. He know how to create proper atmosphere, and he can develope characters properly.
Steven Spielberg
Not my first choice, but a reasonable choice would be Antoine Fuqua. He's not extremely well-known but his movies are fairly big, most recent being Shooter. His movies also aren't perfect, but he knows drama, action, and how to build up tension. A plus is that his movies usually look gorgeous.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.indiewire.com%2Fthereelroundtable%2Farchives%2Fmattebox.jpg&hash=edef76c438666e5e64789b4e7857de39b2c9b233)
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 24, 2008, 08:12:35 PM
Roland Emmerich!
NEVERRRRRRRRR!
Colin and Greg Strause, but with a veteran as a creature advisor IMO. If lucky, maybe Cameron can help with the aliens. The fans are happy, and the Strauses are ecstatic.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 24, 2008, 09:28:25 PM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 24, 2008, 08:12:35 PM
Roland Emmerich!
NEVERRRRRRRRR!
Colin and Greg Strause, but with a veteran as a creature advisor IMO. If lucky, maybe Cameron can help with the aliens. The fans are happy, and the Strauses are ecstatic.
You would rather have cameron work on the aliens instead of direct :-\
Paul W S Anderson.
Quote from: severen76 on Jan 24, 2008, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 24, 2008, 09:28:25 PM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 24, 2008, 08:12:35 PM
Roland Emmerich!
NEVERRRRRRRRR!
Colin and Greg Strause, but with a veteran as a creature advisor IMO. If lucky, maybe Cameron can help with the aliens. The fans are happy, and the Strauses are ecstatic.
You would rather have cameron work on the aliens instead of direct :-\
He wouldn't direct anyway. I just want a vet on the aliens.
What about Peter Hyams?
i want greg and colin strause with a better script and a huge budget. and it's avp2, because paul andersons movie isnt even recognized anymore.
I thought AVPR was pretty good, I think Greg and Colin Straus Should be the directors.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 24, 2008, 09:28:25 PM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 24, 2008, 08:12:35 PM
Roland Emmerich!
Colin and Greg Strause, but with a veteran as a creature advisor IMO. If lucky, maybe Cameron can help with the aliens. The fans are happy, and the Strauses are ecstatic.
I wouldn't mind that :)
Not sure if these directors would be interested, but how about say Paul Verhoeven (RoboCop, Starship Troopers) or Jonathan Mostow (Terminator 3, Breakdown, U-571)?
^ too light. A Verhevon (sp) or Mostow AvP movie would end up feeling like A:R. Danny Boyle would be cool...but if he turned down Alien 4 I doubt he'd do AvP3.
Quote from: jimmylace on Jan 25, 2008, 01:36:28 AM
^ too light. A Verhevon (sp) or Mostow AvP movie would end up feeling like A:R. Danny Boyle would be cool...but if he turned down Alien 4 I doubt he'd do AvP3.
Verhoeven? Maybe, but it would be saturated with blood and nudity. Mostow? God, no. T3VAVP.
George Lucas!!! Then we would get the space jockeys who actually turn out to be Wookies in
disguise and instead of pulse riffles we'd get lightsabers!
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 25, 2008, 03:03:06 AM
George Lucas!!! Then we would get the space jockeys who actually turn out to be Wookies in
disguise and instead of pulse riffles we'd get lightsabers!
Um... Lucas isn't exactly a great director. His actors are always wooden.
Star Wars is only highly regarded for the ground breaking visuals which seem dated now.
...oh wait. You're joking.
Zach Snyder
Stephen Norrington
Guillermo Del Torro
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Stephen Norrington
Guillermo Del Torro
I second those. ;)
EDITE: It's Toro by the way, not Torro.
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Quote from: jimmylace on Jan 25, 2008, 01:36:28 AM
^ too light. A Verhevon (sp) or Mostow AvP movie would end up feeling like A:R. Danny Boyle would be cool...but if he turned down Alien 4 I doubt he'd do AvP3.
Verhoeven? Maybe, but it would be saturated with blood and nudity. Mostow? God, no. T3VAVP.
Actually, I think Mostow might be able to handle it well. T3 was a great movie, just hard to stand next to a Cameron film. :)
I'd like to see John McTiernan direct it, but the chances of that happening are the same as Ridley Scott or James Cameron directing it.
The action scenes in both his films with submarines and Terminators in them, were just too light and superficial for what a film like this would require.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 25, 2008, 04:04:35 AM
I'd like to see John McTiernan direct it, but the chances of that happening are the same as Ridley Scott or James Cameron directing it.
It's a shame McTiernan's serving time in jail (as far as I know). :(
I recall mentioning Ronny Yu in an earlier post as another possible director for AVP3...did anyone here like Freddy Vs. Jason?
Chris Nolan.
Paul Verhoeven would be the best choice. He made great movies like Robocop and i think he can make a good AVP movie.
Robocop is a satirical comedy. Do you want AVP to be a satirical comedy? No I didn't think so.
To be honest Mctiernan is a bit of a hack. =/ Predator. GOOD. Die Hard. GOOD. Everything else? Uuuuhh....
Michael Bay :D
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Paul W S Anderson.
Your kididng,right?
No.
Oh so you dont like the whole versus concept, because I cant think of another reason why you would want him to direct again.
Mel Gibson!!!!!!!!! roflmao :P :D
You completely forgot 'The Hunt For Red October'. :)
Ridley Scott or James Cameron.
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Paul W S Anderson.
Your kididng,right?
No.
Oh so you dont like the whole versus concept, because I cant think of another reason why you would want him to direct again.
A-f**king-Men!
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Paul W S Anderson.
Your kididng,right?
No.
Oh so you dont like the whole versus concept, because I cant think of another reason why you would want him to direct again.
lol, nicely put
I want paul Verhoven to direct AVP 3 , he was great in Total Recall , and the creature feature Starship Troopers(the bugs looked great by the way), another something important is the blood and gore any AVP movie, you can expect a decent amount of gore in every action/sci-fiction he does !
whoever suggested Paul W Anderson to return needs to take a long look at their poo and look for any colors that may explain their sickness of brain confusion
If you're mostly wishing to see Aliens and Predators beating the s*** out of each other to a merciless death, perhaps it would make Hong Kong director John Woo (Face/Off, M:I2, Broken Arrow, A Better Tomorrow) a possible candidate to direct AVP3.
Takeshi Kitano will make the goriest AvP.
Quote from: Corporal Harrison on Jan 26, 2008, 09:25:53 AM
whoever suggested Paul W Anderson to return needs to take a long look at their poo and look for any colors that may explain their sickness of brain confusion
That would be me, If he did an R rated AvP i think it would be good look at Event Horizon.
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Paul W S Anderson.
Your kididng,right?
No.
Oh so you dont like the whole versus concept, because I cant think of another reason why you would want him to direct again.
lol, nicely put
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Paul W S Anderson.
Your kididng,right?
No.
Oh so you dont like the whole versus concept, because I cant think of another reason why you would want him to direct again.
A-f**king-Men!
Yep like there was a vs in the last movie .................
Quote from: marky on Jan 25, 2008, 08:50:03 PM
Ridley Scott or James Cameron.
And youre having a Laugh, as much As I like them there is no way in hell they Would direct An AvP movie.
Stephen Hopkins would be return... ::) ::)
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whoever suggested Paul W Anderson to return needs to take a long look at their poo and look for any colors that may explain their sickness of brain confusion
That would be me, If he did an R rated AvP i think it would be good look at Event Horizon.Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 25, 2008, 11:01:27 PM
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Paul W S Anderson.
Your kididng,right?
No.
Oh so you dont like the whole versus concept, because I cant think of another reason why you would want him to direct again.
lol, nicely put
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Paul W S Anderson.
Your kididng,right?
No.
Oh so you dont like the whole versus concept, because I cant think of another reason why you would want him to direct again.
A-f**king-Men!
Yep like there was a vs in the last movie .................Quote from: marky on Jan 25, 2008, 08:50:03 PM
Ridley Scott or James Cameron.
And youre having a Laugh, as much As I like them there is no way in hell they Would direct An AvP movie.
MK was good, Event Horizon was v.good, Resident Evil was quite good (I hoped that it will be rather decent adaptation of game)...... I think that poorly done AvP was not entirely his fault.
Another director that crossed my mind: Park Chan-wook (Oldboy, Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance, Sympathy For Lady Vengeance, Joint Security Area). ;)
Quote from: shakermakerman on Jan 26, 2008, 01:01:43 PMThat would be me, If he did an R rated AvP i think it would be good look at Event Horizon.
EH was horrid. That film was just constant gore with Sam Neill complaining about his wife being dead.
Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2008, 02:11:36 PMMK was good, Event Horizon was v.good, Resident Evil was quite good (I hoped that it will be rather decent adaptation of game)...... I think that poorly done AvP was not entirely his fault.
No, it definitely was his entire fault since he both wrote the script
and directed the movie.
Robert Rodriguez!!!! He would make an amazing movie.
Quote from: gilimiligili on Jan 26, 2008, 08:23:46 AM
I want paul Verhoven to direct AVP 3 , he was great in Total Recall , and the creature feature Starship Troopers(the bugs looked great by the way), another something important is the blood and gore any AVP movie, you can expect a decent amount of gore in every action/sci-fiction he does!
Why does this guy's name keep coming up?
Every time he does science-fiction, it either has parts which are deliberately over-the-top or are, as in the case of '
Robocop' and, most
especially, '
Starship Troopers', attempts at parody.
A film like this should be neither and so he would very probably fail at it.
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I want paul Verhoven to direct AVP 3 , he was great in Total Recall , and the creature feature Starship Troopers(the bugs looked great by the way), another something important is the blood and gore any AVP movie, you can expect a decent amount of gore in every action/sci-fiction he does!
Why does this guy's name keep coming up?
Every time he does science-fiction, it either has parts which are deliberately over-the-top or are, as in the case of 'Robocop' and, most especially, 'Starship Troopers', attempts at parody.
A film like this should be neither and so he would very probably fail at it.
I could count on you, on coming in! ;)
Ever since I started reading the ST novel I could see how Paul changed Heinlen's utopian Federation into a fascist Federation, Heinlen must be turning in his grave >:(.
I think he would be a good choice because he made great classics like Robocop and Total Recall.
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Quote from: gilimiligili on Jan 26, 2008, 08:23:46 AM
I want paul Verhoven to direct AVP 3 , he was great in Total Recall , and the creature feature Starship Troopers(the bugs looked great by the way), another something important is the blood and gore any AVP movie, you can expect a decent amount of gore in every action/sci-fiction he does!
Why does this guy's name keep coming up?
Every time he does science-fiction, it either has parts which are deliberately over-the-top or are, as in the case of 'Robocop' and, most especially, 'Starship Troopers', attempts at parody.
A film like this should be neither and so he would very probably fail at it.
I could count on you, on coming in! ;)
Ever since I started reading the ST novel I could see how Paul changed Heinlen's utopian Federation into a fascist Federation, Heinlen must be turning in his grave >:(.
I thought you liked the ST film :-\
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I want paul Verhoven to direct AVP 3 , he was great in Total Recall , and the creature feature Starship Troopers(the bugs looked great by the way), another something important is the blood and gore any AVP movie, you can expect a decent amount of gore in every action/sci-fiction he does!
Why does this guy's name keep coming up?
Every time he does science-fiction, it either has parts which are deliberately over-the-top or are, as in the case of 'Robocop' and, most especially, 'Starship Troopers', attempts at parody.
A film like this should be neither and so he would very probably fail at it.
I could count on you, on coming in! ;)
Ever since I started reading the ST novel I could see how Paul changed Heinlen's utopian Federation into a fascist Federation, Heinlen must be turning in his grave >:(.
I thought you liked the ST film :-\
I still do, but I can't look at it the same way again ;) Everything was alright except for the satire and the romance, It should have been more like Heinlen's book. Even if they didn't include the power armor.
QuoteI think he would be a good choice because he made great classics like Robocop and Total Recall.
AAAARRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH.
*bangs head on desk*.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Jan 26, 2008, 06:40:51 PM
I think he would be a good choice because he made great classics like Robocop and Total Recall.
And starship troopers.
"the only good bugs a dead bug" lol.
Star ship troopers were Ok. Even part two which was rather heavily low budget film was quite nice. Especially ending.
The first Star Ship Troopers movie was awesome but then again i haven't seen the movie in the past 9 years.
My best choices for directors for the movie would be
- Alex Proyas (The Crow, Dark City, and I, Robot)
- Peter Hyams (2010: The Year We Make Contact, The Musketeer, and End of Days)
- Guillermo del Toro (Blade II, Hellboy, and Pan's Labyrinth)
- Brian Yuzna (Re-Animator, Return of the Living Dead III, and Dagon)
- Paul Verhoven (RoboCop, Total Recall, Basic Instinct, and Starship Troopers)
- Jan de Bont (Speed, Twister, and The Haunting)
- Len Wiseman (Underworld, Live Free or Die hard, and Underworld: Evolution)
- Paul Thomas Anderson (Magnolia, Punch-Drunk Love and, There Will Be Blood)
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Jan 26, 2008, 10:31:49 PM
The first Star Ship Troopers movie was awesome but then again i haven't seen the movie in the past 9 years.
My best choices for directors for the movie would be
- Alex Proyas (The Crow, Dark City, and I, Robot)
- Peter Hyams (2010: The Year We Make Contact, The Musketeer, and End of Days)
- Guillermo del Toro (Blade II, Hellboy, and Pan's Labyrinth)
- Brian Yuzna (Re-Animator, Return of the Living Dead III, and Dagon)
- Paul Verhoven (RoboCop, Total Recall, Basic Instinct, and Starship Troopers)
- Jan de Bont (Speed, Twister, and The Haunting)
- Len Wiseman (Underworld, Live Free or Die hard, and Underworld: Evolution)
- Paul Thomas Anderson (Magnolia, Punch-Drunk Love and, There Will Be Blood)
Interesting list. I'm not sure about Paul Thomas Anderson though. Besides menitoning Park Chan-wook earlier on, what about Joon-ho Bong? He's the director who made the South Korean monster movie 'The Host', which was awesome! ;)
That movie (The Host) had the worst ending I've ever seen. I felt robbed, beaten, and left to die. Blargh.
I loved the host. Every bit of it including the ending.
But I was the only one out of my family apparantly. Dad liked it until the end. Mom hated it throughout, sister didn't even bother to watch it. Friends are most like my dad.
I love foreign storytelling though because it doesn't follow proven formula like american films do. And thus your generally surprised when stuff happens. I would never expect them to follow each of the familiy members storylines isolated like that as they try to find the girl. It injected a HUGE amount of character into each member as they tried to overcome the monster and locate the child on their own. I don't expect that to happen in the American remake, because secondary characters don't get isolated screen time for the most part in big budget monster films.
I kinda saw the girl thing coming, but haveing grown to like her character, it generally made me upset when she SPOILERS....................................died END SPOILERS.
The host was easily the most emotionally involved I've been in a monster film since the THIRD Alien movie and the second Terminator.
Of course it doesn't matter since the director of the host said he'd NEVER make another monster movie again.
I found it cheap that his daughter died ... so he just picks up some little boy who happens to be near and we're expected to accept it as a happy ending.
Don't think that was quite the point. I don't expect the director meant to imply any sort of happy ending.
The boy was an orphan taken care of by his daughter (which probably had more to do with his acceptance than anything). And guy is still in hunt the monster mode on the shore of the river.
The monster in The Host was very good, but as much as I like and understand asian films, I didn`t liked it.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 27, 2008, 04:19:51 AM
That movie (The Host) had the worst ending I've ever seen. I felt robbed, beaten, and left to die. Blargh.
I thought it was pretty crap too.
James Wan (Saw, Death Sentence) or John McTiernan (Predator, Die Hard, The Hunt For Red October)
or if possible they can post direct it XD
Quote from: SiL on Jan 27, 2008, 04:19:51 AM
That movie (The Host) had the worst ending I've ever seen. I felt robbed, beaten, and left to die. Blargh.
I'm not sure if I liked the ending but overall I feel positive about the movie simply because it took twists and turns I honestly didn't see coming, because as Kimarhi said it doesn't follow a set "western" formula. I think the guy basically took on the orphaned boy not to simply replace his daughter but because he saw it as a second chance to man up to the task of being a parent and stop being such an irresponsible waster.
Good point chris.
I think both directors had their shot but didnt really deliver so I say another director thats done some decent films.
Not too many guys get a second shot. I would hope if they do get another shot at this... they bring they're Lessons Learned book.
I thought they had the right idea, it just lacked the realism we want.
David Slade
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=14035.0
Repost of a repost.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Jan 25, 2008, 05:55:50 PM
Robocop is a satirical comedy. Do you want AVP to be a satirical comedy? No I didn't think so.
Actually, it would be interesting what he would do to Weyland Yutani.
By interesting I suppose you mean make it like OCP?
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 03, 2008, 12:40:26 AM
By interesting I suppose you mean make it like OCP?
He can make it original, and twisted.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Jan 26, 2008, 10:31:49 PM
The first Star Ship Troopers movie was awesome but then again i haven't seen the movie in the past 9 years.
My best choices for directors for the movie would be
- Alex Proyas (The Crow, Dark City, and I, Robot)
- Peter Hyams (2010: The Year We Make Contact, The Musketeer, and End of Days)
- Guillermo del Toro (Blade II, Hellboy, and Pan's Labyrinth)
- Paul Verhoven (RoboCop, Total Recall, Basic Instinct, and Starship Troopers)
Those are some good choices. I like Peter Hyams allot he also did Timecop and Outland which are great films so he knows his sc-fi well.
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Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Jan 26, 2008, 10:31:49 PM
The first Star Ship Troopers movie was awesome but then again i haven't seen the movie in the past 9 years.
My best choices for directors for the movie would be
- Alex Proyas (The Crow, Dark City, and I, Robot)
- Peter Hyams (2010: The Year We Make Contact, The Musketeer, and End of Days)
- Guillermo del Toro (Blade II, Hellboy, and Pan's Labyrinth)
- Paul Verhoven (RoboCop, Total Recall, Basic Instinct, and Starship Troopers)
Those are some good choices. I like Peter Hyams allot he also did Timecop and Outland which are great films so he knows his sc-fi well.
Don't forget:
Danny Boyle.
But not for an AVP movie. Just an alien movie. I want the Strauses for AVP3.
i wouldnt mind the Strausi syndicatre to return, it wasnt entirely thier fault that AVPR sucked, i figure if a bigger budget and a different writer(boot Salerno out) and we got a potentially decent move going on
I say David Cronenberg,The Fly (1986) anyone? Well it would be nice. He directed Scanners,it had a good story but could have been better. I wouldn't mind if the Strause bros came back but do think someone else should write the script. Cronenberg is great with the drama aspect (Dead Ringers (1988). He is also good with making strange and freaky happenings (Videodrome (1983),I love that movie!). He makes me proud to be Canadian since he was born in Canada. ;D ;D
why is everyone want the strauses back? they have a horrible take on the aliens and their style is nonexistant. they also rewrote the entire script so that is also their fault. people would screw up as badly as them dont deserve to direct anything, not even traffic.
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Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Jan 25, 2008, 05:55:50 PM
Robocop is a satirical comedy. Do you want AVP to be a satirical comedy? No I didn't think so.
Actually, it would be interesting what he would do to Weyland Yutani.
If you've ever watched 'Hollow Man' or 'Black Book', it shows that Verhoeven can actually make a movie seriously without relying much on comedy.
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Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Jan 25, 2008, 05:55:50 PM
Robocop is a satirical comedy. Do you want AVP to be a satirical comedy? No I didn't think so.
Actually, it would be interesting what he would do to Weyland Yutani.
If you've ever watched 'Hollow Man' or 'Black Book', it shows that Verhoeven can actually make a movie seriously without too much comedy in it.
Hollow man had a lot of comedy.
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Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Jan 25, 2008, 05:55:50 PM
Robocop is a satirical comedy. Do you want AVP to be a satirical comedy? No I didn't think so.
Actually, it would be interesting what he would do to Weyland Yutani.
If you've ever watched 'Hollow Man' or 'Black Book', it shows that Verhoeven can actually make a movie seriously without too much comedy in it.
Hollow man had a lot of comedy.
You might be right. It's been a while since I watched that movie, but I can't recall any funny moments in it. :-\ 'Black Book' was serious for sure, though.
Paul Verhoeven would never direct a crapfest fanboy sci-fi B movie like AvP. He did Robocop and Starship Troopers cos it had "layers", NOT cos they were simple mindless blast 'em ups.
Quote from: nicky on Feb 03, 2008, 08:50:00 AM
Paul Verhoeven would never direct a crapfest fanboy sci-fi B movie like AvP. He did Robocop and Starship Troopers cos it had "layers", NOT cos they were simple mindless blast 'em ups.
In that case, he probably wouldn't direct a (mindless) Freddy Vs. Jason sequel either. It really depends on whether he's interested to make an AVP film or not.
Paul Verhoeven is a great director and could do a decent job with AVP but it would have humor in it like starship troopers and Total recall and Robocop because thats his style.
I think the only directors thats gonna touch AVP are younger directors because like someone said its fanboy craze thing and the director probaly read the comics or played the games. AVP has the potential to be good and fun but thats all. Really good directors exspect more from a film and why they would never go near AVP because thats all it offers.
The only bad thing weve had with both films is crap scripts which could be better.
Quote from: nukem11 on Feb 03, 2008, 11:25:54 AM
Really good directors exspect more from a film and why they would never go near AVP because thats all it offers.
The only bad thing weve had with both films is crap scripts which could be better.
Interesting point. I guess we could say the same for Freddy Vs. Jason. Not much story, just fun action...
No A list director will touch AvP cos its fanboy shit that no one takes seriously.
Plus Fox know that they don't need an A list director to attract the audiences - the only thing audiences really wanna see is the aliens and the Predator on screen fighting...that's all. They don't need big stars cos the stars are the aliens and Preds themselves. Story etc help, yes, but Fox knows its really all about Aliens and Preds scrapping in the same film...and we all know we'd pay to see that.
Quote from: nicky on Feb 03, 2008, 11:56:53 AM
No A list director will touch AvP cos its fanboy shit that no one takes seriously.
Plus Fox know that they don't need an A list director to attract the audiences - the only thing audiences really wanna see is the aliens and the Predator on screen fighting...that's all. They don't need big stars cos the stars are the aliens and Preds themselves. Story etc help, yes, but Fox knows its really all about Aliens and Preds scrapping in the same film...and we all know we'd pay to see that.
Well, I've suggested Ronny Yu several times, and he isn't an A list director. He did FvJ (and yep, people payed for that film just to see Freddy and Jason on screen together fighting), so I'm sure he could do the same for AvP.
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Quote from: nicky on Feb 03, 2008, 11:56:53 AM
No A list director will touch AvP cos its fanboy shit that no one takes seriously.
Plus Fox know that they don't need an A list director to attract the audiences - the only thing audiences really wanna see is the aliens and the Predator on screen fighting...that's all. They don't need big stars cos the stars are the aliens and Preds themselves. Story etc help, yes, but Fox knows its really all about Aliens and Preds scrapping in the same film...and we all know we'd pay to see that.
Well, I've suggested Ronny Yu several times, and he isn't an A list director. He did FvJ (and yep, people payed for that film just to see Freddy and Jason on screen together fighting), so I'm sure he could do the same for AvP.
He would make it overtly slasherish.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 03, 2008, 01:59:38 PM
He would make it overtly slasherish.
Yeah he made a horror film this is sc-fi completley different.
The only thing that makes AvP sci-fi is that it has extra-terrestrials in it. Freddy and Jason arent human but are still of "another world" and classed as "the other" just like thge aliens and Preds.
I think Ronny Yu is a reasonable and realistic director to hope for. Basically we'll never get anyone that can actually pick and choose projects - it'll be someone desperate for work....or another "fan".
Quote from: nicky on Feb 03, 2008, 02:49:20 PM
The only thing that makes AvP sci-fi is that it has extra-terrestrials in it. Freddy and Jason arent human but are still of "another world" and classed as "the other" just like thge aliens and Preds.
I think Ronny Yu is a reasonable and realistic director to hope for. Basically we'll never get anyone that can actually pick and choose projects - it'll be someone desperate for work....or another "fan".
Unfortantly thats true.
What about Renny Harlin? He directed Deep Blue Sea.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 03, 2008, 04:36:40 PM
What about Renny Harlin? He directed Deep Blue Sea.
Yeah he would be my first choice he did Die Hard 2 and he was gonna direct Alien 3 with Ripley going to the alien home planet.
I think renny harlin is a boring director IMO, he would get the job done it wouldnt be anything to write home about.
Quote from: severen76 on Feb 03, 2008, 05:11:53 PM
I think renny harlin is a boring director IMO, he would get the job done it wouldnt be anything to write home about.
Im pretty sure he would do better job than the first two films.
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Quote from: severen76 on Feb 03, 2008, 05:11:53 PM
I think renny harlin is a boring director IMO, he would get the job done it wouldnt be anything to write home about.
Im pretty sure he would do better job than the first two films.
Well more than likely but Im sure we could find someone better.
Just imagine we got Roland Emmerich I would jump for joy.
Quote from: nukem11 on Feb 03, 2008, 06:13:06 PM
Just imagine we got Roland Emmerich I would jump for joy.
I liked the Strauses, and if what they say is true, they learned a lot from the experience of making AVP-R. I soooo can't wait for AVP3.
I'm sure they will be back. Fox said they would if the BO makes a good profit, and they grossed the budget several times over.
Quote from: nukem11 on Feb 03, 2008, 06:13:06 PM
Just imagine we got Roland Emmerich I would jump for joy.
He made ONE movie I liked. Independence Day. And that wasn't a very serious movie.
Godzilla and Day After Tomorrow- BAD.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 03, 2008, 06:15:44 PM
I liked the Strauses, and if what they say is true, they learned a lot from the experience of making AVP-R. I soooo can't wait for AVP3.
I'm sure they will be back. Fox said they would if the BO makes a good profit, and they grossed the budget several times over.
He made ONE movie I liked. Independence Day. And that wasn't a very serious movie.
Godzilla and Day After Tomorrow- BAD.
I liked allot what the bros did but the diologe and the acting and the characters were crap.
Roland Emmerich did universal solider and stargate which are great. Independence Day is amazing its big rollercoaster of a film just what we need for AVP 3.
I'm up for Harlin and Emmerich myself! ;D
- Clive Barker
- James Cameron
Quote from: Cenobite Queen on Feb 13, 2008, 04:35:07 PM
- Clive Barker
- James Cameron
I wouldn't recommend JC. He's a great director, but he's an Aliens man.
Quote from: nukem11 on Feb 03, 2008, 06:13:06 PM
Just imagine we got Roland Emmerich I would jump for joy.
No because his movies are cap and only made 2 good movies. He would make the movie look like a big popcorn flick and have New York City get destory again.
I want the brothers strause!, I think AvP-R is a good movie.
I would like to see in the next film, the yutani' group investigate the planet of the predators, or something like it :)
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Feb 13, 2008, 04:39:25 PM
No because his movies are cap and only made 2 good movies. He would make the movie look like a big popcorn flick and have New York City get destory again.
I dont think so. He did also direct stargate and universal soliders.
I have another choice David Twohy.
Quote from: nukem11 on Feb 13, 2008, 05:41:40 PM
I have another choice David Twohy.
that would be good choice. he handled hammer head aliens very well :)
I want Clive Barker to write the screenplay and Alex Proyas to direct the movie. That would be a amazing movie.
What would you think about Jerry Bruckheimer?
Quote from: killzonewith bladesandteet on Feb 13, 2008, 07:09:50 PM
What would you think about Jerry Bruckheimer?
Didn't he made Gone in Sixty Seconds ?
BECAUSE HE IS NOT A DIRECTOR! HE IS A PRODUCER!
I vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Maybe if the Strauses were only brought on board to do the Predator stuff and someone else did all the Alien stuff. I think that could work.
Not sure about this one, but Michael Davis (Shoot 'Em Up, Monster Man)?
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Because his creative vision is terrible regardless of what changes are made to the creatures. His visual style bores me with its monochromatic colors and basic framing. The shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
Does anyone else think two director teams could be brought in for this? I mean, I think the Strauses managed to capture the Predator fairly well but they are too Pred-biased. I think two separate worlds need to be created. Kind of like how Giger did the Alien stuff and the Ron Cobb (I think) did the human stuff in Alien.
I may just be a tard, though.
QuoteThe shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
What if that was just Pearl?
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:30:53 AM
QuoteThe shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
What if that was just Pearl?
The Strauses were successful with music videos. I'm sure they have input.
Maybe.
I'm just wondering what people are basing their "They'll do better next time" opinions on.
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:35:26 AM
I'm just wondering what people are basing their "They'll do better next time" opinions on.
I'm thinking it might be a strain of the "Couldn't Possibly Be Worse" syndrome.
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:35:26 AM
Maybe.
I'm just wondering what people are basing their "They'll do better next time" opinions on.
Remember the days when they kept saying that AVP-R will go back to the roots?
People feel betrayed, but the thing is, they thought they did. The aliens had ridges, the predator looked the same as the original with a few differences, iconic images sounds and music...
They like the fans, and respect us. They want to make a film for us. Thing is, they didn't know what we wanted. Now they do from the constant b!^c#!ng from us.
Also, debut films are great learning experiences. They said so themselves.
Whereas Anderson... well... keeps sucking.
And the Strauses are interesting directors.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 14, 2008, 03:41:51 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:35:26 AM
I'm just wondering what people are basing their "They'll do better next time" opinions on.
I'm thinking it might be a strain of the "Couldn't Possibly Be Worse" syndrome.
Try again.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:43:46 AM
they thought they did.
Which only proves how little they understand of what makes these creatures great.
QuoteThey like the fans, and respect us.
They like the people who praise the film, and that is all. Anyone else gets labelled as one of "those kids who hate everything".
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 14, 2008, 03:47:08 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:43:46 AM
they thought they did.
Which only proves how little they understand of what makes these creatures great.
QuoteThey like the fans, and respect us.
They like the people who praise the film, and that is all. Anyone else gets labelled as one of "those kids who hate everything".
They thought they got it right, because it looked like the original. These guys strike me as the learning type, and I think that they realize now what they didn't get... because of the fanboy moanings.
They also said that they learned a lot from the experience, and there are parts they wish they could redo.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:50:43 AM
They thought they got it right, because it looked like the original.
What did?
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 14, 2008, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:50:43 AM
They thought they got it right, because it looked like the original.
What did?
Everything predator. Music. Alien head design.
I agree with you completely Alienseseses. I want Strouses for AVP3.
Quote from: gases on Feb 14, 2008, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 14, 2008, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:50:43 AM
They thought they got it right, because it looked like the original.
What did?
Everything predator. Music. Alien head design.
I agree with you completely Alienseseses. I want Strouses for AVP3.
Also iconic visuals.
These guys can make things look reminiscent of other things. Good, but that isn't what we wanted, and them being on the boards makes them hear us loud and clear.
But until then, I smile at the old alien sounds.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Because his creative vision is terrible regardless of what changes are made to the creatures. His visual style bores me with its monochromatic colors and basic framing. The shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
:D :D
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but you gotta admit...
So, you're a 'dead boring, low-budget, mainstream slasher scenario, Colorado smalltown-setting, dark lit, rainy sets' kinda guy, I take it..?
Oh boy... :D
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 12:06:35 PM
Quote from: gases on Feb 14, 2008, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 14, 2008, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:50:43 AM
They thought they got it right, because it looked like the original.
What did?
Everything predator. Music. Alien head design.
I agree with you completely Alienseseses. I want Strouses for AVP3.
Also iconic visuals.
These guys can make things look reminiscent of other things. Good, but that isn't what we wanted, and them being on the boards makes them hear us loud and clear.
But until then, I smile at the old alien sounds.
Yeah I agree. My view is that they thought what they were pleasing us all with what they thought was delivery. But now realise some weren't impressed. But I see them as improving on the weaknesses of the movie.
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 14, 2008, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Because his creative vision is terrible regardless of what changes are made to the creatures. His visual style bores me with its monochromatic colors and basic framing. The shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
:D :D
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but you gotta admit...
So, you're a 'dead boring, low-budget, mainstream slasher scenario, Colorado smalltown-setting, dark lit, rainy sets' kinda guy, I take it..?
Oh boy... :D
Dead boring- disagree. It was made interesting by- drumroll- the cinematography
Low budget- not their fault
Mainstream slasher scenario- Shane
Colorado- what of it?
Dark lit- I saw it perfectly fine
Rainy sets- loved them
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 14, 2008, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Because his creative vision is terrible regardless of what changes are made to the creatures. His visual style bores me with its monochromatic colors and basic framing. The shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
:D :D
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but you gotta admit...
So, you're a 'dead boring, low-budget, mainstream slasher scenario, Colorado smalltown-setting, dark lit, rainy sets' kinda guy, I take it..?
Oh boy... :D
Dead boring- disagree. It was made interesting by- drumroll- the cinematography
Low budget- not their fault
Mainstream slasher scenario- Shane
Colorado- what of it?
Dark lit- I saw it perfectly fine
Rainy sets- loved them
*It's how you use the budget, Halloween cost $325,000
*Shane was involved in the original, although Anderson's involvement seemed to make it better
*Umm continuity? aliens running around a town? Even Anderson was smart enough to set it away from civilization and he was a lot more creative than the "one page of the original script" rewrite setting the movie in some crappy town with pizza boys and bullies.
Quote from: Craig on Feb 14, 2008, 12:29:57 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 14, 2008, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Because his creative vision is terrible regardless of what changes are made to the creatures. His visual style bores me with its monochromatic colors and basic framing. The shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
:D :D
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but you gotta admit...
So, you're a 'dead boring, low-budget, mainstream slasher scenario, Colorado smalltown-setting, dark lit, rainy sets' kinda guy, I take it..?
Oh boy... :D
Dead boring- disagree. It was made interesting by- drumroll- the cinematography
Low budget- not their fault
Mainstream slasher scenario- Shane
Colorado- what of it?
Dark lit- I saw it perfectly fine
Rainy sets- loved them
*It's how you use the budget, Halloween cost $325,000
*Shane was involved in the original, although Anderson's involvement seemed to make it better
*Umm continuity? aliens running around a town? Even Anderson was smart enough to set it away from civilization and he was a lot more creative than the "one page of the original script" rewrite setting the movie in some crappy town with pizza boys and bullies.
How you used the budget are you serious? They didn't even have enough money to do the acid effects properlly. They wanted to melt wolfs arm off and the front of the helicopter.
There is no continuity problem with the nuke? The caster was a nice tie in to alien.
They wanted to show regular people. Not billionares or archeologists looking for some discovery.
Quote from: gases on Feb 14, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: Craig on Feb 14, 2008, 12:29:57 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 14, 2008, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Because his creative vision is terrible regardless of what changes are made to the creatures. His visual style bores me with its monochromatic colors and basic framing. The shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
:D :D
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but you gotta admit...
So, you're a 'dead boring, low-budget, mainstream slasher scenario, Colorado smalltown-setting, dark lit, rainy sets' kinda guy, I take it..?
Oh boy... :D
Dead boring- disagree. It was made interesting by- drumroll- the cinematography
Low budget- not their fault
Mainstream slasher scenario- Shane
Colorado- what of it?
Dark lit- I saw it perfectly fine
Rainy sets- loved them
*It's how you use the budget, Halloween cost $325,000
*Shane was involved in the original, although Anderson's involvement seemed to make it better
*Umm continuity? aliens running around a town? Even Anderson was smart enough to set it away from civilization and he was a lot more creative than the "one page of the original script" rewrite setting the movie in some crappy town with pizza boys and bullies.
How you used the budget are you serious? They didn't even have enough money to do the acid effects properlly. They wanted to melt wolfs arm off and the front of the helicopter.
There is no continuity problem with the nuke? The caster was a nice tie in to alien.
They wanted to show regular people. Not billionares or archeologists looking for some discovery.
Yea, i am. You think it costs millions to do an acid burning effect? maybe a few thousand at most?
No continuity problem? Like people wont care that a nuclear weapon was USED ON U.S. soil, no country would prepare itself for war, no states near by would care, no one would notice it the next day, the government would have an excuse for blowing up their own country, right? it's perfectly fine to nuke a town!
Yea, that's why the characters were awful. It was too OC-ish with bullies, girlfriends and teenage drama. The characters in the A and P films were likable and somewhat unique and all had a different personality, oh and they could act! except for Winona.
In conclusion, acid effects cost millions of dollars, it's ok for the government to nuke a town because no one will notice, It's the OC with aliens and predators!
Quote from: Craig on Feb 14, 2008, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: gases on Feb 14, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: Craig on Feb 14, 2008, 12:29:57 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 14, 2008, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Because his creative vision is terrible regardless of what changes are made to the creatures. His visual style bores me with its monochromatic colors and basic framing. The shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
:D :D
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but you gotta admit...
So, you're a 'dead boring, low-budget, mainstream slasher scenario, Colorado smalltown-setting, dark lit, rainy sets' kinda guy, I take it..?
Oh boy... :D
Dead boring- disagree. It was made interesting by- drumroll- the cinematography
Low budget- not their fault
Mainstream slasher scenario- Shane
Colorado- what of it?
Dark lit- I saw it perfectly fine
Rainy sets- loved them
*It's how you use the budget, Halloween cost $325,000
*Shane was involved in the original, although Anderson's involvement seemed to make it better
*Umm continuity? aliens running around a town? Even Anderson was smart enough to set it away from civilization and he was a lot more creative than the "one page of the original script" rewrite setting the movie in some crappy town with pizza boys and bullies.
How you used the budget are you serious? They didn't even have enough money to do the acid effects properlly. They wanted to melt wolfs arm off and the front of the helicopter.
There is no continuity problem with the nuke? The caster was a nice tie in to alien.
They wanted to show regular people. Not billionares or archeologists looking for some discovery.
Yea, i am. You think it costs millions to do an acid burning effect? maybe a few thousand at most?
No continuity problem? Like people wont care that a nuclear weapon was USED ON U.S. soil, no country would prepare itself for war, no states near by would care, no one would notice it the next day, the government would have an excuse for blowing up their own country, right? it's perfectly fine to nuke a town!
Yea, that's why the characters were awful. It was too OC-ish with bullies, girlfriends and teenage drama. The characters in the A and P films were likable and somewhat unique and all had a different personality, oh and they could act! except for Winona.
In conclusion, acid effects cost millions of dollars, it's ok for the government to nuke a town because no one will notice, It's the OC with aliens and predators!
That doesn't matter. We didn't see the aftermath and it has no affect on continuity. You can argue it was stupid and unbelievable but it doesn't impact continuity.
I guess they could have put just smoke effects for thousands of dollars. But they also had to shoot the thing in a very limited schedule. The characters in A and P films weren't every day people. If they were they were placed in an environment as to make them seem unique and interesting.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 14, 2008, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Because his creative vision is terrible regardless of what changes are made to the creatures. His visual style bores me with its monochromatic colors and basic framing. The shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
:D :D
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but you gotta admit...
So, you're a 'dead boring, low-budget, mainstream slasher scenario, Colorado smalltown-setting, dark lit, rainy sets' kinda guy, I take it..?
Oh boy... :D
Dead boring- disagree. It was made interesting by- drumroll- the cinematography
Low budget- not their fault
Mainstream slasher scenario- Shane
Colorado- what of it?
Dark lit- I saw it perfectly fine
Rainy sets- loved them
So I was right then... ;D ;)
And the cinematography was actually weakening the storytelling as well as the editing mess...had that same feeling with the TCM remake as well... And Daniel Pearl's DP is criticised heavily the past few movies he has done... so, reviewers dislike him as well...
Low budget - they could have made thousands of approaches given the low budget, so no, that is a lame excuse... Have seen very good, crafty movies with lower budgets than this, so t me that excuse does not work... AVPR's 35-40 million for a smalltown-set movie versus AVP's 45 million for pyramid, ship, whaling station, spaceship, etc... Maybe they should have built the sets in Europe and not in Canada, then... PAul said they were a lot cheaper in Prague, so go figure how much money they could have spared had the done it in Europe... And that money they would save could be channelled for more important and expensive stuff like showing VFX shots of Alien infestation instead of the same Alien sounds over and over again....especially the elephant one...got quite annoying half way through the movie... ::)
So, that low budget is a poor excuse, knwoing full wel they only built a couple of sets, so where did the rest went...? AVP had 450 VFX shots, so how many did AVPR had...? A lot less, I can assure you...SO where did all the money go...? Not the cast, which was more than likely cheap... So, where did 35-40 million dollars go...? We see them all in AVP, so apart from the homeworld planet and the space opening and Pred ship scenes, I don't see the budget on screen at all... Probably it all went to the crew, which for a movie looking this cheap, it could probably have passed with half of it...
I have seen TV shows with far less crew making a much better end result than this...
Scenario - Shane is to blame, yes, but isn't he AVPR's writer...? So, are you excusing the movie for having a bad writer in the first place...? Weird...
The Colorado setting is a disgrace in ways more than one: looks to mundane, banal, weak, tedious... you name it... No memorable shots at all, even the aerial ones, seen in thousands of movies... Like I aid, banal...
the dark color-grading was blatanly and clearly used to hide details of the fights, suits, Wolf's face, to minimise criticism... The rain and darkness did not help the movie's suspense, tone and horror... not at all...
And you being a film student (I think I read you say that somewhere), you should know it takes a whole lot more than darkness and rain to do memorable fighting and horrorific scenes...It takes vision...
And many share my opinion...so it is not just me then... ;)
You can analyse objectively a movie for its intricate components, or you can just evaluate it as a clueless moviegoer...
What's it gonna be...? :-\ ;)
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 14, 2008, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Feb 14, 2008, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 14, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
QuoteI vote Strauses... I want someone who has already learned from their mistakes.
Not someone new that could potentially make new mistakes.
Why not Anderson then?
Because his creative vision is terrible regardless of what changes are made to the creatures. His visual style bores me with its monochromatic colors and basic framing. The shots in AVP-R were vibrant.
:D :D
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but you gotta admit...
So, you're a 'dead boring, low-budget, mainstream slasher scenario, Colorado smalltown-setting, dark lit, rainy sets' kinda guy, I take it..?
Oh boy... :D
Dead boring- disagree. It was made interesting by- drumroll- the cinematography
Low budget- not their fault
Mainstream slasher scenario- Shane
Colorado- what of it?
Dark lit- I saw it perfectly fine
Rainy sets- loved them
So I was right then... ;D ;)
And the cinematography was actually weakening the storytelling as well as the editing mess...had that same feeling with the TCM remake as well... And Daniel Pearl's DP is criticised heavily the past few movies he has done... so, reviewers dislike him as well...
Low budget - they could have made thousands of approaches given the low budget, so no, that is a lame excuse... Have seen very good, crafty movies with lower budgets than this, so t me that excuse does not work... AVPR's 35-40 million for a smalltown-set movie versus AVP's 45 million for pyramid, ship, whaling station, spaceship, etc... Maybe they should have built the sets in Europe and not in Canada, then... PAul said they were a lot cheaper in Prague, so go figure how much money they could have spared had the done it in Europe... And that money they would save could be channelled for more important and expensive stuff like showing VFX shots of Alien infestation instead of the same Alien sounds over and over again....especially the elephant one...got quite annoying half way through the movie... ::)
So, that low budget is a poor excuse, knwoing full wel they only built a couple of sets, so where did the rest went...? AVP had 450 VFX shots, so how many did AVPR had...? A lot less, I can assure you...SO where did all the money go...? Not the cast, which was more than likely cheap... So, where did 35-40 million dollars go...? We see them all in AVP, so apart from the homeworld planet and the space opening and Pred ship scenes, I don't see the budget on screen at all... Probably it all went to the crew, which for a movie looking this cheap, it could probably have passed with half of it...
I have seen TV shows with far less crew making a much better end result than this...
Scenario - Shane is to blame, yes, but isn't he AVPR's writer...? So, are you excusing the movie for having a bad writer in the first place...? Weird...
The Colorado setting is a disgrace in ways more than one: looks to mundane, banal, weak, tedious... you name it... No memorable shots at all, even the aerial ones, seen in thousands of movies... Like I aid, banal...
the dark color-grading was blatanly and clearly used to hide details of the fights, suits, Wolf's face, to minimise criticism... The rain and darkness did not help the movie's suspense, tone and horror... not at all...
And you being a film student (I think I read you say that somewhere), you should know it takes a whole lot more than darkness and rain to do memorable fighting and horrorific scenes...It takes vision...
And many share my opinion...so it is not just me then... ;)
You can analyse objectively a movie for its intricate components, or you can just evaluate it as a clueless moviegoer...
What's it gonna be...? :-\ ;)
Well, for one, I never said all it take is rain and darkness. You need the angle and editing, too.
Also, I think it is more fun to enjoy something than to nitpick.And I'm not even liking it just for the sake of it. I actually like it, so why be a wet blanket?
QuoteYea, i am. You think it costs millions to do an acid burning effect? maybe a few thousand at most?
Polystyrene and nail polish remover = expensive.
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2008, 11:40:08 PM
QuoteYea, i am. You think it costs millions to do an acid burning effect? maybe a few thousand at most?
Polystyrene and nail polish remover = expensive.
A helicopter out of polystyrene and nail polish remover added- expensive.
And then keeping the helicopter burned up while making it look real.
Not if you only do close ups.
Like the Nostromo or Sulaco decks.
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2008, 12:40:51 AM
Not if you only do close ups.
Like the Nostromo or Sulaco decks.
But they have to show the people inside the helicopter, and the burn will have to be in the background.
But the acid didn't have to burn the glass. Some acids don't burn glass.
New idea for why I think the Strauses should return. Their pitch sounds cool. For one, the first half would be no humans or dialogue, and also... space. It would be like what the opening scene of AVP-R would have been if it was bigger and there were awesome fights in it.
It would also let the Strauses take the series seriously. AVP-R had problems in the human department the most.
Dances with Wolves.
The Bros also want Jockeys and the Alien homeworld.
"Oh no! They wouldn't do that! They know better!"
...hehe, no.
QuoteFor one, the first half would be no humans or dialogue
And yet going back again to the hoary old chestnut of Aliens that AvP fans and filmmakers worship so - that had no Aliens for the first hour.
Many have wondered just what the Bros consider the "roots", and all have failed to find an explanation ...
Mebbe they meant the 1977 tv series with Geordi LaForge...
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2008, 12:47:07 AM
The Bros also want Jockeys and the Alien homeworld.
"Oh no! They wouldn't do that! They know better!"
...hehe, no.
Well, they aren't writing it, but I like their dances with wolves idea.
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2008, 12:48:43 AM
QuoteFor one, the first half would be no humans or dialogue
And yet going back again to the hoary old chestnut of Aliens that AvP fans and filmmakers worship so - that had no Aliens for the first hour.
It had dialogue and humans, though.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2008, 12:50:01 AM
Many have wondered just what the Bros consider the "roots", and all have failed to find an explanation ...
Iconic imagery, gore, creature designs (Predator, alien ridges) iconic sounds and music
Ridges doth not equal roots. Dome = roots.
QuoteIt had dialogue and humans, though.
So why would you want a film that had no humans and dialogue for the first half of the film if Aliens (and Alien) is the template or alleged "roots".
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 15, 2008, 12:56:23 AM
Iconic imagery, gore, creature designs (Predator, alien ridges) iconic sounds and music
Hence the movie lacking substance.
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2008, 12:59:28 AM
Ridges doth not equal roots. Dome = roots.
QuoteIt had dialogue and humans, though.
So why would you want a film that had no humans and dialogue for the first half of the film if Aliens (and Alien) is the template or alleged "roots".
Dome would be the first Alien, but the Strauses are ecstatic about Aliens.
I don't want the next film to be a mimic of previous films. This one had enough, and I enjoyed it, but the Strauses can have new ideas now.
So Aliens had a lot of dialogue. Good for it. This is AVP3.
QuoteI don't want the next film to be a mimic of previous films.
It doesn't have to mimic it - just use a bare bones structure that has been shown to work, but have different events occuring at the pre-specified points in the story.
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2008, 01:08:43 AM
QuoteI don't want the next film to be a mimic of previous films.
It doesn't have to mimic it - just use a bare bones structure that has been shown to work, but have different events occuring at the pre-specified points in the story.
That can get tired. I want to see this idea for dances with wolves. If the bros have a good script and slow it down a bit, it can be pretty artful.
Of course, we haven't seen that yet from them, but their music videos show that it's a maybe.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 15, 2008, 12:45:23 AM
But the acid didn't have to burn the glass. Some acids don't burn glass.
The facehugger that snagged Kane didn't seem to have much trouble with his faceplate.
Ripley blood > 24th century space windows.
^Dat too.
i would give teh bros another shot why not .........
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2008, 04:24:25 AM
Ripley blood > 24th century space windows.
By the same token, Alien blood < observation pen window.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2008, 05:51:23 AM
By the same token, Alien blood < observation pen window.
We can't know for sure. Those Aliens were too stupid to bother trying that, apparently.
The blood on the window when the Aliens are tearing the loser a new one says otherwise.
Why didn't they just injure each other? They didn't have to kill each other when a small spurt of blood will melt through several decks. They should have been like "ok you strike me and ill strike him and he strikes you, Ready GO!" Didn't have to kill the other one. Did it fight back? I can't remember?
Avp budget is not 45 million. Where u get that from anyway. I thought it was 60million.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2008, 07:01:18 AM
The blood on the window when the Aliens are tearing the loser a new one says otherwise.
I never actually noticed that. Good point, then.Edited to add that I went and checked the scene out, and that crap all over the window is just the slimey shit that the Aliens have on their body. Ain't never no acid on dat window.
IF I had Power(money),
I think Peter Jackson should made trillogy 3 x 180min,and it would be in faaaaar distant future,
with Humans that kickass with technology plus DNA improved,plus androids,hell even a Terminators!!!,Predators that are masters of Assassinations and close combats and strategy, and Aliens with swarms of bloodthirsty drones,and even some evolved (flying,space carriers, hell, go for a Starcraft!)
It should have both Predator and Alien planet,even Space jockeys!!!And maybe few other races,just for breeding the aliens!!!
...but I'm Powerless....
I want a director that's done some decent films to do AvP3; like Guillermo del Toro, Ridley Scott, James Cameron or even John Mctierman, and that's that. Why can't one of them do it? Why do we need a new and crap director for each new film? Why can't we just get one of the great, old directors back to do one last film, so both the Alien and Predator franchises can finally rest in peace after one last film?
Quote from: TheUrbanPredator on Feb 15, 2008, 11:29:34 AM
I want a director that's done some decent films to do AvP3; like Guillermo del Toro, Ridley Scott, James Cameron or even John Mctierman, and that's that. Why can't one of them do it? Why do we need a new and crap director for each new film? Why can't we just get one of the great, old directors back to do one last film, so both the Alien and Predator franchises can finally rest in peace after one last film?
You won't get a good director for an AVP film because a good director has standards. Just by reading the script they know to stay away from it, thus why we have fanboys directing AVP films. Even Sigourney thought the concept was awful when Alien 3 came out, she was right :)
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 15, 2008, 06:36:44 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2008, 05:51:23 AM
By the same token, Alien blood < observation pen window.
We can't know for sure. Those Aliens were too stupid to bother trying that, apparently.
These are the aliens that can spit acid.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 15, 2008, 04:18:02 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 15, 2008, 12:45:23 AM
But the acid didn't have to burn the glass. Some acids don't burn glass.
The facehugger that snagged Kane didn't seem to have much trouble with his faceplate.
Was that acid? I thought it just broke into it.
Because wasn't the acid drop the first time we see it?
And how would the acid burn the helmet and not Kane's face?
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 15, 2008, 11:57:14 AM
Was that acid? I thought it just broke into it.
Nope. The inside of the helmet is quite clearly melted. Which doesn't necessarily mean acid, but when the shoe fits ...
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2008, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Feb 15, 2008, 11:57:14 AM
Was that acid? I thought it just broke into it.
Nope. The inside of the helmet is quite clearly melted. Which doesn't necessarily mean acid, but when the shoe fits ...
So it took its time burning a hole? Without burning Kane, or getting whacked off?
So why is it a big surprise when it bleeds on the ship?
Cos just because it burned a hole in his mask doesn't mean it bleeds acid...
I think Clive Barker should make a AVP movie. Who agrees with me :).
I'm still content with the Strause Brothers directing AvP-3, having faith of course that they will learn from their mistakes with AvP-R. Honestly, we're not going to get anyone better or more qualified, because not only are our
favorite directors more
expensive, but unfortunately what Craig said is right...
Quote from: Craig on Feb 15, 2008, 11:37:22 AM
You won't get a good director for an AVP film because a good director has standards. Just by reading the script they know to stay away from it, thus why we have fanboys directing AVP films. Even Sigourney thought the concept was awful when Alien 3 came out, she was right :)
Although I don't agree with the concept of AvP being awful. That's Sigourney's opinion because she's so attached to her films and probably not a fan of the Predator. But clearly, as the fans have proven, the concept of AvP is not
awful... if you have an imagination and a love for both of the creatures, like the Strauses.
If the Uncut DVD is better then i will want them back.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2008, 05:51:23 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2008, 04:24:25 AM
Ripley blood > 24th century space windows.
By the same token, Alien blood < observation pen window.
never happened. thats slime not acid.
oh and if avp3 is ever made get zack snyder or lenwiseman to direct. no more BS.
I still don't get the "They'll earn from their mistakes" crowd.
Do y'all think that Anderson gets better with each film? Or Uwe Boll?
Some people just aren't good directors. Now, I'm not saying that the Brothers can't get better... I just don't want future AvPs to be their trial and error training ground.
Quote from: Slugworth on Feb 15, 2008, 10:57:22 PM
I'm still content with the Strause Brothers directing AvP-3, having faith of course that they will learn from their mistakes with AvP-R. Honestly, we're not going to get anyone better or more qualified, because not only are our favorite directors more expensive, but unfortunately what Craig said is right...
Quote from: Craig on Feb 15, 2008, 11:37:22 AM
You won't get a good director for an AVP film because a good director has standards. Just by reading the script they know to stay away from it, thus why we have fanboys directing AVP films. Even Sigourney thought the concept was awful when Alien 3 came out, she was right :)
Although I don't agree with the concept of AvP being awful. That's Sigourney's opinion because she's so attached to her films and probably not a fan of the Predator. But clearly, as the fans have proven, the concept of AvP is not awful... if you have an imagination and a love for both of the creatures, like the Strauses.
A good film cannot be made out of AVP and never will. The imagination of the Strauses? a predator fighting aliens in a shoe store? don't even bother.
Sigourney Weaver was right.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 16, 2008, 01:31:08 AM
Do y'all think that Anderson gets better with each film? Or Uwe Boll?
Some people just aren't good directors. Now, I'm not saying that the Brothers can't get better... I just don't want future AvPs to be their trial and error training ground.
Some Directors do improve like James Cameron (His first movie was crap) but his movies got better over time. I'm pretty sure Colin will improve and be a good director.
^^ :o Pirahna 2 is a masterpiece In low budget cinema. ;D
I say give the Brothers a bigger budget and they could make a masterpiece. The only reason, really, I think AvP:R was lacking in any way was b/c the budget was so small.
I'd like to see Ryuhei Kitamura direct.
He's great with action, extremely creative and has fantastic over-the-top visual style, and is definitely not afraid of graphic violence. But most importantly he's a good storyteller. I think he'd definitely give the franchise the unique kick in the ass that it so desperately needs.
If they make AVP3, I think it needs to take place in it's own universe, completely unrelated to all previous films. That way the filmmakers will be free to do whatever the hell they want with the story and not be hindered by canon or continuity(which is already f**ked-up anyway).
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 15, 2008, 11:25:07 PM
never happened. thats slime not acid.
It's got a yellow tint. Their drool is colourless.
Quote from: StealthHunter on Feb 16, 2008, 02:34:48 AMIf they make AVP3, I think it needs to take place in it's own universe, completely unrelated to all previous films. That way the filmmakers will be free to do whatever the hell they want with the story and not be hindered by canon or continuity(which is already f**ked-up anyway).
They'd piss off no end of fanboys if they don't stick to continuity. They'd be roasted alive if they do that.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 16, 2008, 02:41:25 AM
Quote from: StealthHunter on Feb 16, 2008, 02:34:48 AMIf they make AVP3, I think it needs to take place in it's own universe, completely unrelated to all previous films. That way the filmmakers will be free to do whatever the hell they want with the story and not be hindered by canon or continuity(which is already f**ked-up anyway).
They'd piss off no end of fanboys if they don't stick to continuity. They'd be roasted alive if they do that.
They've already pissed of fanboys by f**king up continuity, by having both AVP films take place on Earth.
Quote from: Craig on Feb 16, 2008, 01:34:03 AM
A good film cannot be made out of AVP and never will. The imagination of the Strauses? a predator fighting aliens in a shoe store? don't even bother.
Too bad thousands of fans already disagree with you.
And yes, the imagination of the Strauses: Great fight scenes and a beautiful Predator homeworld.
Just an opinion.
Quote from: Slugworth on Feb 16, 2008, 03:13:55 AM
Quote from: Craig on Feb 16, 2008, 01:34:03 AM
A good film cannot be made out of AVP and never will. The imagination of the Strauses? a predator fighting aliens in a shoe store? don't even bother.
Too bad thousands of fans already disagree with you.
And yes, the imagination of the Strauses: Great fight scenes and a beautiful Predator homeworld.
Just an opinion.
And thousands disagree with you. The fight scenes were mediocre and the Predator home world was anything but creative. Just an opinion.
Bros' imagination:
Predators dominating Aliens on the Alien homeworld, with the Jockies making an appearance.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 16, 2008, 03:59:42 AM
Bros' imagination:
Predators dominating Aliens on the Alien homeworld, with the Jockies making an appearance.
Nah, they'd just nuke it from orbit ;)
Quote from: SiL on Feb 16, 2008, 03:59:42 AM
Bros' imagination:
Predators dominating Aliens on the Alien homeworld, with the Jockies making an appearance.
I fixed your quote. ::)
Quote from: Craig on Feb 16, 2008, 03:16:47 AM
And thousands disagree with you.
True, but I'm not the one making blanket statements like "
a good film cannot be made out of AvP and never will"... when thousands of fans already think that there
is a good movie already made out of it. I know thousands dislike it too, you guys have made that clear... too bad you guys keep conveniently looking past the points made by others when it doesn't suit your own opinion.
::)
Quote from: StealthHunter on Feb 16, 2008, 02:46:33 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 16, 2008, 02:41:25 AM
Quote from: StealthHunter on Feb 16, 2008, 02:34:48 AMIf they make AVP3, I think it needs to take place in it's own universe, completely unrelated to all previous films. That way the filmmakers will be free to do whatever the hell they want with the story and not be hindered by canon or continuity(which is already f**ked-up anyway).
They'd piss off no end of fanboys if they don't stick to continuity. They'd be roasted alive if they do that.
They've already pissed of fanboys by f**king up continuity, by having both AVP films take place on Earth.
I thought continuity wasn't f**ked like so many people think. In Alien, the company already knew about the creature's existence. The only thing that's out of place is that there's no mention of Predators being encountered previously in AvP:R.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 16, 2008, 02:37:29 AM
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 15, 2008, 11:25:07 PM
never happened. thats slime not acid.
It's got a yellow tint. Their drool is colourless.
i dont see it.....
Quote from: Slugworth on Feb 16, 2008, 04:14:29 AM
Quote from: Craig on Feb 16, 2008, 03:16:47 AM
And thousands disagree with you.
True, but I'm not the one making blanket statements like "a good film cannot be made out of AvP and never will"... when thousands of fans already think that there is a good movie already made out of it. I know thousands dislike it too, you guys have made that clear... too bad you guys keep conveniently looking past the points made by others when it doesn't suit your own opinion.
::)
This must be some non-existent AVP film you are talking about? Come on "hit me" with these points you supposedly bring forth. Both films are flawed compared to their predecessors, which is why they are panned by critics and fans alike.
look at how the fights in avp-r were filmed and you can see the BS have zero imagination. those were the worst fight scenes ever. anderson puts them to shame.
colin:"gee we need to find a way to have one pred beat alot of aliens in one fight....."
greg:"i know!, just have the aliens stand still so that the pred can kill them."
colin"but why would an alien just stand there?"
greg:"because this pred is elite! rofl"
Quote from: Craig on Feb 16, 2008, 06:28:35 AM
This must be some non-existent AVP film you are talking about? Come on "hit me" with these points you supposedly bring forth. Both films are flawed compared to their predecessors, which is why they are panned by critics and fans alike.
You're using your own
biased opinion by saying that there has never been a
good AvP film, when obviously some people disagree. That's all I was saying from the beginning. Whether the movies are flawed or not, that's not the point.
My opinion on the movie isn't the point. You made an obvious exaggeration and now you're trying to argue that your opinion is fact. You totally ignored what I said originally and jumped down my throat with your
well-rehearsed anti-avp blabber.
This is silly. ;D
Quote from: Slugworth on Feb 16, 2008, 06:49:49 AM
Quote from: Craig on Feb 16, 2008, 06:28:35 AM
This must be some non-existent AVP film you are talking about? Come on "hit me" with these points you supposedly bring forth. Both films are flawed compared to their predecessors, which is why they are panned by critics and fans alike.
You're using your own biased opinion by saying that there has never been a good AvP film, when obviously some people disagree. That's all I was saying from the beginning. Whether the movies are flawed or not, that's not the point. My opinion on the movie isn't the point. You made an obvious exaggeration and now you're trying to argue that your opinion is fact. You totally ignored what I said originally and jumped down my throat with your well-rehearsed anti-avp blabber.
This is silly. ;D
I'm aware that some people like it, although it's the "go in not expecting a good movie and you will be surprised" attitude i find funny. It is fact that the AVP films are mindless action with awful characters and such.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 16, 2008, 03:59:42 AM
Bros' imagination:
Predators dominating Aliens on the Alien homeworld, with the Jockies making an appearance.
Y'know, if you changed the word "dominating" to
hunting or even
battling, then I really wouldn't mind that concept... it's better than the existing two movies, and wouldn't necessarily demystify the characters if it were handled correctly. Just a thought.
Quote from: Slugworth on Feb 16, 2008, 07:25:49 PM
Y'know, if you changed the word "dominating" to hunting or even battling, then I really wouldn't mind that concept... it's better than the existing two movies, and wouldn't necessarily demystify the characters if it were handled correctly. Just a thought.
The Bros have all the subtlety and tact of a sledge-hammer. Merely showing the homeworld would demystify them.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 16, 2008, 09:10:57 PM
The Bros have all the subtlety and tact of a sledge-hammer. Merely showing the homeworld would demystify them.
Who says it has to be the
actual home-world? It could be just another planet that they've taken over somehow, maybe influenced by the Predator or Space Jockey. Who knows. It seems like an interesting setting to me. Use your imagination, there are plenty of ways to do it without crapping on the mythology.
Not in the hands of the Bros, there aren't.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 16, 2008, 09:33:56 PM
Not in the hands of the Bros, there aren't.
I see, because you're
sooo familiar with the Brothers style... after
one film. ::)
I'm allowing the Brothers Strause to grow as film makers, and I have faith that they could do a better job with
their own ideas, rather than catering to Shane Salerno's piss poor writing.
One film, two shorts, and a dozen music videos and commercials. Nothing they've done has impressed me, and nothing they've done or, more importantly, said has shown me they could pull off what they want to do in a way that will please the fans and live up to the originals.
They said they extensively re-wrote the script according to their tastes. They had to keep the setting and they kept the characters, and they had to have a new reproductive cycle. They could've made something great out of it because it was a workable idea, but they didn't, just like how Salerno could've saved AvP in the writing stage, but didn't. The portrayal of the Aliens is, from what they've said, their doing by and large; Salerno had the Predator killed by two normal Aliens, for example.
They had more than enough chance to show us that they could do something good with the idea that lived up to the originals at least in intent and attempted artistic integrity; instead they shot right towards the lowest common denominator and used style over any semblance of substance.
Fair enough.
Although, you might want to find something new to hate.... Requiems been in and out of the theater and is almost out on DVD now. Your hatred seems awfully unhealthy at this point.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 16, 2008, 01:31:08 AM
I still don't get the "They'll earn from their mistakes" crowd.
Do y'all think that Anderson gets better with each film? Or Uwe Boll?
Some people just aren't good directors. Now, I'm not saying that the Brothers can't get better... I just don't want future AvPs to be their trial and error training ground.
I'm just saying that they got some stuff right, and they have directing skills, but it is their first film, and they can get better over time. Whereas Anderson and Uwe Boll are not on their first films, and don't seem to want to learn.
Some body said this already most likely, but having the Wachowski Bro's do AVP3........I'd be excited as if Cameron/Ridley were doing A5.
Christopher Nolan and James Cameron... it could happen... :-\ :P
Jame's Camerons first film was Pirahna 2 or something. I'm just saying.
Quote from: gases on Feb 17, 2008, 02:05:35 AM
Jame's Camerons first film was Pirahna 2 or something. I'm just saying.
What's your point? That AvPR is as terrible a film as Pirahna 2?
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 17, 2008, 02:13:38 AM
Quote from: gases on Feb 17, 2008, 02:05:35 AM
Jame's Camerons first film was Pirahna 2 or something. I'm just saying.
What's your point? That AvPR is as terrible a film as Pirahna 2?
Either you are being sarcastic or have no common sense but in case of the second he is saying that Cameron started out doing shit movies and later made great movies. He feels that the brothers Strause will undergo the same "evolution"
Quote from: Dragon-Pred on Feb 17, 2008, 02:19:31 AM
he is saying that Cameron started out doing shit movies and later made great movies. He feels that the brothers Strause will undergo the same "evolution"
Except that gases liked AvPR, but his comparison here would indicate that AvPR stinks. And just because Cameron "got good", doesn't really mean much. Some directors improve, others don't. It's a crapshoot.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 17, 2008, 02:22:52 AM
Quote from: Dragon-Pred on Feb 17, 2008, 02:19:31 AM
he is saying that Cameron started out doing shit movies and later made great movies. He feels that the brothers Strause will undergo the same "evolution"
Except that gases liked AvPR, but his comparison here would indicate that AvPR stinks. And just because Cameron "got good", doesn't really mean much. Some directors improve, others don't. It's a crapshoot.
True but honestly AVP-R is much better than Pirhanna 2 so who knows maybe the Bros will be great directors one day... who knows
Quote from: Dragon-Pred on Feb 17, 2008, 02:25:40 AM
but honestly AVP-R is much better than Pirhanna 2
No argument there.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 17, 2008, 02:22:52 AM
Quote from: Dragon-Pred on Feb 17, 2008, 02:19:31 AM
he is saying that Cameron started out doing shit movies and later made great movies. He feels that the brothers Strause will undergo the same "evolution"
Except that gases liked AvPR, but his comparison here would indicate that AvPR stinks. And just because Cameron "got good", doesn't really mean much. Some directors improve, others don't. It's a crapshoot.
My comparison is trying to show that people can develop and I see this happening for the Brother's. Maybe not to the same extent, but if were comparing first movies then I'll give it to AVPR.
Quote from: Slugworth on Feb 16, 2008, 10:10:13 PM
Although, you might want to find something new to hate.... Requiems been in and out of the theater and is almost out on DVD now. Your hatred seems awfully unhealthy at this point.
I'm not hating on AvPR. Just saying why the Bros should never touch anything to do with the creatures ever again.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2008, 03:10:07 AM
Quote from: Slugworth on Feb 16, 2008, 10:10:13 PM
Although, you might want to find something new to hate.... Requiems been in and out of the theater and is almost out on DVD now. Your hatred seems awfully unhealthy at this point.
I'm not hating on AvPR. Just saying why the Bros should never touch anything to do with the creatures ever again.
Not even Aliens versus Predator novelty underwear... :o :o :o :o
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2008, 03:10:07 AM
Quote from: Slugworth on Feb 16, 2008, 10:10:13 PM
Although, you might want to find something new to hate.... Requiems been in and out of the theater and is almost out on DVD now. Your hatred seems awfully unhealthy at this point.
I'm not hating on AvPR. Just saying why the Bros should never touch anything to do with the creatures ever again.
So... you're hating it? ;D
Quote from: Dragon-Pred on Feb 17, 2008, 02:25:40 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 17, 2008, 02:22:52 AM
Quote from: Dragon-Pred on Feb 17, 2008, 02:19:31 AM
he is saying that Cameron started out doing shit movies and later made great movies. He feels that the brothers Strause will undergo the same "evolution"
Except that gases liked AvPR, but his comparison here would indicate that AvPR stinks. And just because Cameron "got good", doesn't really mean much. Some directors improve, others don't. It's a crapshoot.
maybe the Bros will be great directors one day... who knows
I think the same thing as well, the same thing happen to David Fincher as well (some of his early movies where bad then he became a great director.
If we're talking about actual feature films and not music vids, his first two movies were Alien 3 and Se7en ...
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2008, 03:28:07 AM
If we're talking about actual feature films and not music vids, his first two movies were Alien 3 and Se7en ...
I don't enjoy Alien 3. The film looks classy, and feels classy until the dodgy alien... and the story feels like a gut punch.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2008, 03:28:07 AM
If we're talking about actual feature films and not music vids, his first two movies were Alien 3 and Se7en ...
Alien 3 wans't that great (The normal version) and it got bad reviews from critics and fans. After Alien 3 came out, he made better movies like Se7en and Fight Club.
And yet the flaws in A3 had nothing to do with Fincher. Sure, the Bros had problems with restrictions, but they at least had the option to have the script re-written extensively to suit their tastes. Fincher didn't. Fincher was even kicked off the film by the end, for all the fighting.
As the assembly cut shows, a lot of the problems with the film lay in the editing. Okay, yeah, Hicks and Newt still died, boo hoo. That doesn't make it a bad movie, just objectionable to some. It still had solid acting, solid writing (until the editing), a brilliant artistic sense and was, initially, driven by a desire to make a good film.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2008, 03:57:54 AM
And yet the flaws in A3 had nothing to do with Fincher. Sure, the Bros had problems with restrictions, but they at least had the option to have the script re-written extensively to suit their tastes. Fincher didn't. Fincher was even kicked off the film by the end, for all the fighting.
As the assembly cut shows, a lot of the problems with the film lay in the editing. Okay, yeah, Hicks and Newt still died, boo hoo. That doesn't make it a bad movie, just objectionable to some. It still had solid acting, solid writing (until the editing), a brilliant artistic sense and was, initially, driven by a desire to make a good film.
You don't know how much the bro's could have rewritten being a first movie. I can't remember who it was who said something like "bad writing bad movie no matter what". Sure Fincher wasn't able to rewrite the script, but he had as you say a good writer. The writing for AVPR was very bad, and like Fincher, I don't think the bros in reality were able to change much. I mean it's like a fan trying to knock an experienced script over issues of character interaction, when obviously their speciality is in creatures/lore. As far as I know they did save us a lot, but like Fincher, I'm not that convinced how much they were able to modify. Even if they did say they 1 page was left intact, this could mean 1 item was changed on every page except one, rewrites don't guarentee big changes.
So I see Fincher and Bro's as similar. Bro's were dealt with bad writer with bad setting/character interactions (shooting cows with caster), whereas Fincher wasn't allowed creative control. The acting in AVPR was good in some instances but I think the poor dialogue (writing) let it down, without the changing the crap in the script, for whatever reason.
I find it weird that you sympathise with Fincher but not the BS. Even if some of the things they said you didn't agree with, at least they engaged directly with us.
Quote from: gases on Feb 17, 2008, 04:08:31 AM
You don't know how much the bro's could have rewritten being a first movie.
The fact they had
anything rewritten shows they had more control than Fincher did.
QuoteI find it weird that you sympathise with Fincher but not the BS. Even if some of the things they said you didn't agree with, at least they engaged directly with us.
Like I said;
Alien 3 is a good movie that got butchered. Even in the theatrical cut you can see a good film trying to get out, but being hacked into submission. As bad as the scriptwriting on AvPR may have been, the Bros said the actors improvised a lot of their dialogue, so that shouldn't have been an issue; the acting is still poor even when no dialogue is involved; the film is shallow, relying on a 'new and bigger is better!' mentality; and the Brothers have admitted to adding things to the movie that a lot of people didn't agree with.
The fans engage directly with each other every day, but a lot of their ideas are still shithouse.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2008, 04:25:04 AM
Quote from: gases on Feb 17, 2008, 04:08:31 AM
You don't know how much the bro's could have rewritten being a first movie.
The fact they had anything rewritten shows they had more control than Fincher did.
QuoteI find it weird that you sympathise with Fincher but not the BS. Even if some of the things they said you didn't agree with, at least they engaged directly with us.
Like I said; Alien 3 is a good movie that got butchered. Even in the theatrical cut you can see a good film trying to get out, but being hacked into submission. As bad as the scriptwriting on AvPR may have been, the Bros said the actors improvised a lot of their dialogue, so that shouldn't have been an issue; the acting is still poor even when no dialogue is involved; the film is shallow, relying on a 'new and bigger is better!' mentality; and the Brothers have admitted to adding things to the movie that a lot of people didn't agree with.
The fans engage directly with each other every day, but a lot of their ideas are still shithouse.
But Fincher at least had decent dialogue and story from the start. Even if he was unable to change at least he didn't get shit from the beginning. The bro's would have done a lot better with a better writer. The director shouldn't even have to correct the dialogue other than tweak it.
Improvised doesn't necessarily mean they changed the actual dialogue content, but perhaps reference to how they changed the context of the dialogue when it was delivered. You know like say it this way or that way, this hand gesture. This would come under improvisation.
Adding things into the film that people didn't agree with was I think Fincher's (or whoevers) biggest mistake in killing of Newt and or Hicks. If were comparing what things were added to deter the auidience I think Fincher's (or whoever, again I don't know who is responsible, but assume it was director) would be more severe than a new reproduction method or a predator holding aliens by throat, or whatever.
Fans do but directors don't. I don't think he got his ideas from fansites anyway. Thats one thing that tells me the bro's are genuine about trying to please people and make a good movie. The first go? Not as good as It could have been.
Quote from: gases on Feb 17, 2008, 04:54:05 AM
The director shouldn't even have to correct the dialogue other than tweak it.
Yet a director should recognise bad writing when they see it. It's easier to judge how good dialogue is when you don't write it.
QuoteImprovised doesn't necessarily mean they changed the actual dialogue content, but perhaps reference to how they changed the context of the dialogue when it was delivered.
Improvisation is free-forming the content but keeping the context.
QuoteAdding things into the film that people didn't agree with was I think Fincher's (or whoevers) biggest mistake in killing of Newt and or Hicks.
Fincher didn't have a say in the matter; that was Sigourny Weaver and the producers. He added things like the prisoners having barcodes on the backs of their heads, Weaver being bald, and never letting the audience know just what the Alien is doing to people. The Bros, on the other hand, added Wolf ass-raping the Aliens constantly. By way of an example.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2008, 05:38:12 AM
Quote from: gases on Feb 17, 2008, 04:54:05 AM
The director shouldn't even have to correct the dialogue other than tweak it.
Yet a director should recognise bad writing when they see it. It's easier to judge how good dialogue is when you don't write it.
QuoteImprovised doesn't necessarily mean they changed the actual dialogue content, but perhaps reference to how they changed the context of the dialogue when it was delivered.
Improvisation is free-forming the content but keeping the context.
QuoteAdding things into the film that people didn't agree with was I think Fincher's (or whoevers) biggest mistake in killing of Newt and or Hicks.
Fincher didn't have a say in the matter; that was Sigourny Weaver and the producers. He added things like the prisoners having barcodes on the backs of their heads, Weaver being bald, and never letting the audience know just what the Alien is doing to people. The Bros, on the other hand, added Wolf ass-raping the Aliens constantly. By way of an example.
Yeah but my point is Fincher had good dialogue to begin with. He didn't have to deal with teenagers in an urban setting.
I would have though the context would be difficult to replicate from a script and thus would be more free flowing and changable. You know, more so than the dialogue. I'm talking hand movements and such, which is very well what Colin could have been referring to as "improvisation".
Wow that was Sigourny's work? I guess neither Newt nor Hicks would have let her suicide. So what did Fincher walk off the job for? I heard he was barely there near the end. Was it the killing of Newt/Hicks? The ass rapage was expected for one predator vs an army of aliens, which was undoubtably due to budget restrictions ( I think so anyway). And I don't see the wolf vs horde ass rapage as infringing on a successive movie of the BS, because I think they would do well with multiple preds.
gases a.k.a Dylan
has a point.
I want to see more movie from the Strauses before I made the call to bring them back.
But does everyone want Del Toro? Most of his big Hollywood Movies aren't very good, he's best when he's 1. doing his own material and 2. working independently.
You're never going to get any of the original fanchise directors, and you definatly won't get them all to work together so I pick...
Paul Anderson.
As long as he isn't allowed to touch the script, I think it could be a decent watch, he has produced some nice visuals, match him up with an at least half way decent script....that's about as good as it's gonna get folks.
Quote from: BloodyRedBaron on Feb 17, 2008, 10:50:34 PM
I want to see more movie from the Strauses before I made the call to bring them back.
But does everyone want Del Toro? Most of his big Hollywood Movies aren't very good, he's best when he's 1. doing his own material and 2. working independently.
I disargee with you, his movies are great (Like Blade II and Pan's Labyrinth). I doubt he would do a AVP3, he was ask to do a AVP movie back in 2003 but he didn't want to do it.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0868219/bio
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Feb 17, 2008, 11:02:12 PM
Quote from: BloodyRedBaron on Feb 17, 2008, 10:50:34 PM
I want to see more movie from the Strauses before I made the call to bring them back.
But does everyone want Del Toro? Most of his big Hollywood Movies aren't very good, he's best when he's 1. doing his own material and 2. working independently.
I disargee with you, his movies are great (Like Blade II and Pan's Labyrinth). I doubt he would do a AVP3, he was ask to do a AVP movie back in 2003 but he didn't want to do it.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0868219/bio
It's a shame he turned down the offer. He's now set to direct 'The Hobbit', so I'm not sure if he'd have time to direct an AVP3.
stephen speilberg. it would hopefully be a mix of jurassic park and saving private ryan.
^LOL yeah right, he would never do a AVP movie or a movie based on a comic book.
You mean like Tintin?
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Feb 18, 2008, 01:32:56 AM
^LOL yeah right, he would never do a AVP movie or a movie based on a comic book.
i'm not saying it would happen. i'm saying thats what i wish would happen.
I think that James Cameron could do a good job directing AVP3. If there is going to be one then it should probably be a big time director like him because both AVP got bad reviews but have a sleeper type fan base. If these movie reviewers see that someone like him directing it they would give it a second chance.
Quote from: BloodyRedBaron on Feb 17, 2008, 10:50:34 PM
I want to see more movie from the Strauses before I made the call to bring them back.
But does everyone want Del Toro? Most of his big Hollywood Movies aren't very good, he's best when he's 1. doing his own material and 2. working independently.
You're never going to get any of the original fanchise directors, and you definatly won't get them all to work together so I pick...
Paul Anderson.
As long as he isn't allowed to touch the script, I think it could be a decent watch, he has produced some nice visuals, match him up with an at least half way decent script....that's about as good as it's gonna get folks.
Paul Anderson? Which one? The one that did AVP?
He's a hack. His directorial skills are terrible. His actors all act the same. His fights look like WWE. And his visual style, at least in AVP, is pretty dull.
I been thinking about this alot lately and i think Alex Proyas could be a great choice for director.
if he gave it the dark edge of the Crow and the stunning graphics of I Robot it would be a brilliant mix
thoughts? comments? opinions??
whats all this mumbo jumbo about an AVP3??, do we got any proof of this BullsH*t, no one in thier right mind would touch AVP now that the BS have ruined everything?
Quote from: nexus on Mar 14, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
I been thinking about this alot lately and i think Alex Proyas could be a great choice for director.
if he gave it the dark edge of the Crow and the stunning graphics of I Robot it would be a brilliant mix
thoughts? comments? opinions??
I agree with you by 100%. He made Dark City which is a great movie. With a big budget of I Robot and, a story and visuals similar to Dark City and The crow. AVP3 would be a amazing movie.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Mar 14, 2008, 05:02:58 PM
I agree with you by 100%. He made Dark City which is a great movie. With a big budget of I Robot and, a story and visuals similar to Dark City and The crow. AVP3 would be a amazing movie.
Nice to see someone on my side with this.
anyone else like the idea?
or have better suggestions
If he was hired AvP3 would definitley look amazing.
Well rigth now he is making a Silver Surfer movie that coming out next summer. I doubt he will do a AVP movie.
Well to be fair Alien:Ressurection looked nice but just wasn't a very good film.
If Alex Proyas can't direct it then i want to see the director of Batman begins to direct the movie.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 01, 2008, 03:48:51 PM
If Alex Proyas can't direct it then i want to see the director of Batman begins to direct the movie.
Christopher Nolan.
Nothing I've seen of his really makes me think of him to direct a new alien or predator. :-\
Quote from: severen76 on Apr 01, 2008, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 01, 2008, 03:48:51 PM
If Alex Proyas can't direct it then i want to see the director of Batman begins to direct the movie.
Christopher Nolan.
Nothing I've seen of his really makes me think of him to direct a new alien or predator. :-\
He made some great movies. I think it can work out!
let bill paxton direct it!
Well he does rock the casbah and I enjoyed Frailty let Paxton do it!! ;D
Quote from: nexus on Mar 14, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
I been thinking about this alot lately and i think Alex Proyas could be a great choice for director.
if he gave it the dark edge of the Crow and the stunning graphics of I Robot it would be a brilliant mix
thoughts? comments? opinions??
I think Tim Burton or Alex Proyas would give it the gothic look, but it would take more than that to convey a good, worthwhile watchable movie... It would require not just the look, but the feel of a good movie, something this latest incarnation of FOX does not know anything about... They are not even willing to learn from past mistakes, creating new ones all the time...
I think they should leave a third movie for the next admin, because they have tried twice and failed miserably... ::) ;)
Christopher Nolan would be perfect. Fox should hire him after The Dark Knight comes out.
None of those directors have really done anything which tremendously impressed me.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 02, 2008, 12:07:07 AM
None of those directors have really done anything which tremendously impressed me.
How come? Alex Proyas is great director and Dark City is a amazing movie.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 01, 2008, 06:40:16 PM
Christopher Nolan would be perfect. Fox should hire him after The Dark Knight comes out.
He is going to do the third and final Batman movie. Then he will pursue his passion projects with the loads of money he got from the new, amazing Batman movies. Though he does admire the original Alien.
Tim Burton would be terrible.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 02, 2008, 12:14:20 AM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 01, 2008, 06:40:16 PM
Christopher Nolan would be perfect. Fox should hire him after The Dark Knight comes out.
He is going to do the third and final Batman movie. Then he will pursue his passion projects with the loads of money he got from the new, amazing Batman movies. Though he does admire the original Alien.
He woun't be doing a 3rd batman movie until 2011.
Quote from: The Diesel on Apr 02, 2008, 12:16:14 AM
Tim Burton would be terrible.
Yeah Tim Burton sucks, he really wouldn't do anything great at all to an AvP film.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 02, 2008, 12:10:38 AM
How come? Alex Proyas is great director and Dark City is a amazing movie.
I realise I'm in a minority. :)
Never been able to sit all the way through it. Sort of bored me. I watched through '
I, Robot', but failed to be wowed by it. A decent enough film, for what it was, but I didn't regard it as very special.
Same goes for '
Batman Begins'. It felt average to me. A good comic adaptation, but not something which, as a film, gave me much enthusiasm.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 02, 2008, 12:23:17 AM
Same goes for 'Batman Begins'. It felt average to me. A good comic adaptation, but not something which, as a film, gave me much enthusiasm.
Then go see
Memento.
QuoteSame goes for 'Batman Begins'. It felt average to me.
I agree, it felt average to me too.
I dont know why everybody is saying that it is such a great movie, there is nothing special about it.
Never seen
Dark City, but
I, Robot was good.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 02, 2008, 02:44:53 AM
I agree, it felt average to me too.
I dont know why everybody is saying that it is such a great movie, there is nothing special about it.
Wow, are you serious?! Batman Begins was f---king fantastic!
It was dark, serious, realistic, great script, killer cast, one hell of a Hans Zimmer score and just overall a masterpiece to say the least.
If that movie didn't impress you.....there is something seriously wrong with you lol, stop going to movies!
Far from average, not even a question.
I don't get the big deal with Batman Begins.
It was fairly solid, but I don't know why adolescent males crack a fat over it. Unless they're Batman fans I suppose.
QuoteThen go see Memento.
This, on the other hand, is schweet.
I want to keep the brothers. In my opinion, I am scared to see what another director would do with the Predator/Predators'. They might pull a Paul Anderson.
I've said it once, and I'll say it again: Danny Boyle.
Quote from: JDubG on Apr 02, 2008, 04:19:17 AM
In my opinion, I am scared to see what another director would do with the Predator/Predators'. They might pull a Paul Anderson.
Eh, f**k the Preds, man. What about the Aliens? We get the Bros, we get shit Aliens again. No thanks. Get someone who has the intelligence to treat both well.
Quote from: SM on Apr 02, 2008, 04:05:16 AM
This, on the other hand, is schweet.
Damned right. Only movie I can find no fault with.
Darren Aronofsky
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 02, 2008, 04:29:01 AM
Darren Aronofsky
Sweet Jesus no. I love
Pi and
The Fountain as much as the next guy who loves incredible thought-provoking movies, but for Aliens and Predators? No sir.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 02, 2008, 04:31:43 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 02, 2008, 04:29:01 AM
Darren Aronofsky
Sweet Jesus no. I love Pi and The Fountain as much as the next guy who loves incredible thought-provoking movies, but for Aliens and Predators? No sir.
Agreed. And while I like Alex Proyas style on The Crow especially I dont think that he would be the right choice for an AvP. Maybe an Alien film but I'd rather have a Scott/Cameron team up for that.
non of you guys actually believe that any of the directors mentioned in this thread would even
use the AVP3 script as a coffee place matt , do you?
i mean come on really, the very best AVP3 can hope for is some young gun "without a brother" that just flukes his first movie.
That or James Cameron loses his mind after a car crash and one of us get to him first.
Ryuhei Kitamura(Versus, Azumi,Alive).
He's great with action set-pieces, extremely creative and has fantastic over-the-top visual style.
Quote from: severen76 on Apr 02, 2008, 12:19:05 AM
Quote from: The Diesel on Apr 02, 2008, 12:16:14 AM
Tim Burton would be terrible.
Yeah Tim Burton sucks, he really wouldn't do anything great at all to an AvP film.
Oops..I wasn't thinking about an AVP movie (no good or respectable director would ever come near itunless waved with a millionaire check...), but an actual Alien movie... he has the gothic tiouch and so far, whatever he touches turns gold (Ok, except for the Planet of the Apes, but even that was not a total disaster...), Big Fish, Sweeney Todd (even though I despise the musical genre, I liked the movie...), BATMAN, BAT RETURNS, Edward Scissorhands, etc... etc...
I am curious about what Tim would do on an Alien movie, being him a tremendous storyteller and visualist, with incredible visions...
His pedigree implies that even if it was a downer, it would be above average, no doubt... ;)
Quote from: Sykopathic on Apr 02, 2008, 04:35:06 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 02, 2008, 04:31:43 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 02, 2008, 04:29:01 AM
Darren Aronofsky
Sweet Jesus no. I love Pi and The Fountain as much as the next guy who loves incredible thought-provoking movies, but for Aliens and Predators? No sir.
Agreed. And while I like Alex Proyas style on The Crow especially I dont think that he would be the right choice for an AvP. Maybe an Alien film but I'd rather have a Scott/Cameron team up for that.
Syko, we just had a couple of newbies wrecking what was supposedly an 'easy' movie t be done... I would rather have more experienced ones doing this, and elevating the crossover genre to new creative heights... ;)
But just Alien?
Quote from: SiL on Apr 02, 2008, 04:31:43 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 02, 2008, 04:29:01 AM
Darren Aronofsky
Sweet Jesus no. I love Pi and The Fountain as much as the next guy who loves incredible thought-provoking movies, but for Aliens and Predators? No sir.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 02, 2008, 10:56:12 AM
But just Alien?
we need the Strause brothers for avp \\\, and a good writer this time.
Quote from: frenchpred on Apr 02, 2008, 01:46:37 PM
we need the Strause brothers for avp \\\, and a good writer this time.
Actually...we don't...
They had their chance...they blew it... time for new blood...BETTER blood... ;)
PJ
Quote from: highlandpred on Apr 02, 2008, 04:38:35 AM
non of you guys actually believe that any of the directors mentioned in this thread would even
use the AVP3 script as a coffee place matt , do you?
Bill Paxton might do it. I think he would do a great job too, because he owes both franchises a lot. Therefore he will have a real respect for the movie. And not treat it like some teeny bopper gore fest (that was directed at strausse!)
I wouldn't mind Proyas! I loved all his movies...The Crow, Dark City and I, Robot. ;)
I've named too many directors for AVP3, but I thought it might be worth mentioning Joon Bong-Ho (The Host) again.
paul Anderson because he did a good job on First one no matter what anybody said.
I want Christopher Nolan to direct.
He'd prolly do a reboot.
He is a amazing director. So why not have him for a AVP movie.
Ridely Scott, James Cameron, or anyone else with talent can do a perfect AVP movie.
Quote from: SM on Feb 18, 2008, 01:48:08 AM
You mean like Tintin?
Haha, good one.
I will repeat myself again: Vincent Ward.
It would be cool, but it would probably never happen, if David Fincher directed it.
I heard it takes place in space, any truth to that?
No.
There is no current plan for AvP3 to be anywhere.
if not David Fincher than Ridley Scott. That would be cool too.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 06, 2008, 11:43:50 PM
He is a amazing director. So why not have him for a AVP movie.
I agree he's an amazing director. I'm just saying, that's probably the route he'd take, which I would welcome.
I'm just not sure if he is a AVP fan.
Quote from: MST3Kfan on Jan 19, 2008, 04:25:42 PM
QuoteZak Snyder to direct AvP 3 !
DEAR GOD, NO!!!!! >:(
I hated 300. The only way I could enjoy that ..... thing was with Mike Nelson's hilarious Rifftrax. As for Dawn of the Dead, I'm not that interested in zombie flicks, even moreso remakes of zombie flicks. Tried to watch Night of the Living Dead, but it just isn't my thing. Neither are pretentious over-the-top supposed epics like 300. What's everyone so excited about, I have really no idea.
If you want my opinion, I'd love to see what Sam Raimi could do on AVP. He's done great work with all 3 Spider-Man movies and it would be an interesting experience.
DID YOU SEE SPIDER MAN 3 YOU CRAZY BASTARD!!! What are you thinking? :D
Quote from: JordanLee on Apr 07, 2008, 04:03:43 AM
Quote from: MST3Kfan on Jan 19, 2008, 04:25:42 PM
QuoteZak Snyder to direct AvP 3 !
DEAR GOD, NO!!!!! >:(
I hated 300. The only way I could enjoy that ..... thing was with Mike Nelson's hilarious Rifftrax. As for Dawn of the Dead, I'm not that interested in zombie flicks, even moreso remakes of zombie flicks. Tried to watch Night of the Living Dead, but it just isn't my thing. Neither are pretentious over-the-top supposed epics like 300. What's everyone so excited about, I have really no idea.
If you want my opinion, I'd love to see what Sam Raimi could do on AVP. He's done great work with all 3 Spider-Man movies and it would be an interesting experience.
DID YOU SEE SPIDER MAN 3 YOU CRAZY BASTARD!!! What are you thinking? :D
zack snyder ftw!!! the guy is a genious and his movies have all rocked ;D
Wachowskis.
Quote from: AvPvTerminator on Apr 08, 2008, 01:46:29 AM
Wachowskis.
Oh God no, we'd have even more slow motion than Anderson gave us.
David Cronenberg.
Quote from: MST3Kfan on Jan 19, 2008, 04:25:42 PM
QuoteZak Snyder to direct AvP 3 !
DEAR GOD, NO!!!!! >:(
I hated 300.
What was wrong with 300?
It isn't the right setting for an AvP film. AvP isn't dark and gritty, not like a graphic novel.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 08, 2008, 02:48:44 AM
It isn't the right setting for an AvP film. AvP isn't dark and gritty, not like a graphic novel.
why does no one realize that the 300 was based on a comic and therefore snyder gave the film a comic book feel?
he was being loyal to the roots of the film, and respecting source material.
check out dawn of the dead. that doesnt have a cartoonish look to it at all and is the emodiment of dark & gritty.
Quote from: marrerom on Apr 08, 2008, 03:01:08 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 08, 2008, 02:48:44 AM
It isn't the right setting for an AvP film. AvP isn't dark and gritty, not like a graphic novel.
why does no one realize that the 300 was based on a comic and therefore snyder gave the film a comic book feel?
he was being loyal to the roots of the film, and respecting source material.
check out dawn of the dead. that doesnt have a cartoonish look to it at all and is the emodiment of dark & gritty.
Exactly. 300 wasn't Snyder's style. It was Snyder being respectful to the source material. Is that not what we want?
Well when you put it that way...
Paul Verhoeven.
He is the only director that could make a decent AVP. He can do violent, gritty action way better than the Strause Bros. The problem is the script would have to be good for him to do it.
I'd settle for the Strause's, so long as they've learned that people don't take kindly towards B-movie stock being used to up the rating.
I woulda killed for a Stanley Kubrick Alien film.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 08, 2008, 04:45:06 AM
I woulda killed for a Stanley Kubrick Alien film.
So you can see an Alien physically rape a human?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 08, 2008, 04:53:41 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 08, 2008, 04:45:06 AM
I woulda killed for a Stanley Kubrick Alien film.
So you can see an Alien physically rape a human?
we already do, if you classify a facehugger as an alien
QuoteSo you can see an Alien physically rape a human?
No, because he suffers from insomnia.
Quote from: Corporal Harrison on Apr 08, 2008, 04:55:58 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 08, 2008, 04:53:41 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 08, 2008, 04:45:06 AM
I woulda killed for a Stanley Kubrick Alien film.
So you can see an Alien physically rape a human?
we already do, if you classify a facehugger as an alien
That's not what I meant :P
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 08, 2008, 04:45:06 AM
I woulda killed for a Stanley Kubrick Alien film.
Me too. Too bad he is dead :'(.
Stanley Kubrick sucked balls.
i wanna see James cameron come on board
or fror someone new
Alex Proyas.
someone suggested to me George Lucas. initially i dismissed it as a stupid idea but the more i think about things like star wars the more i think it could work.
but i dont think it would be violent enough.....maybe have lucas arts in on the creature making
Alex Proyas would be nice but he is busy with other stuff at the moment. Christopher Nolan is the perfect choice for the Series. He can make the series great again just like he did with Batman.
Quote from: nexus on Apr 08, 2008, 12:31:46 PM
Stanley Kubrick sucked balls.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg228.imageshack.us%2Fimg228%2F1724%2Ffunnymyspacehx3.gif&hash=a6ff065c53d0450011dce70e27754fc987322baf)
How would you guys feel about Russell Mulcahy (Highlander, Highlander II, Resident Evil: Extinction)?
^Maybe but The 3rd Resident Evil was bad.
And the 'ighlander 2 was sheeeeeet.
I want Ridley or James to do Alien 5.
If I had to choose a director for AvP 3 though, I'd go with Neil Marshall, Alex Proyas, David Twohy, or as a last resort, Paul W.S. Anderson.
Neil Marshall would be a nice choice.
M. Night Shimalayan...
Heh, we'd be in the middle of an A/P fight, when a human says "Computer! Freeze program!". Turns out we're on a holodeck :P
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 09, 2008, 02:58:54 PM
Heh, we'd be in the middle of an A/P fight, when a human says "Computer! Free program!". Turns out we're on a holodeck :P
best part is to finally realise there's not gona be any aliens or Preds in the movie... imagine that..
Well thinking about it since Fox hired Anderson then the Straus Bros I really wouldn't be surprised if they got Uwe Boll just to top it all off!!
Or maybe they could get a camera guy to direct it instead of special effects people next time.
What about Stephen Hopkins, director of Predator 2? To be honest, I'm not a big fan of his though.
Quote from: gameoverman on Apr 15, 2008, 11:18:36 AM
What about Stephen Hopkins, director of Predator 2? To be honest, I'm not a big fan of his though.
Hes a good director and would do a ten times better job than what we got.
What about Bryan Singer?
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 15, 2008, 11:48:42 AM
What about Bryan Singer?
So not the type of guy for this kind of movie. Good director though.
He doesn't do "dark" films.
Quote from: severen76 on Apr 15, 2008, 04:01:43 PM
He doesn't do "dark" films.
X-men and Superman Returns where good.
That's not what I said.
He does do good films although I didn't like superman but I don't think he would make make a good AvP film which should have a dark tone.
We should have Frank Darabont and Stephen King to make the next movie. The Mist was very good movie.
Stephen King wouldn't touch AvP in a million years. It's not his style.
Let Tom Hanks do it then... we get to see a AVP movie set in the 60s...
Chestburster: "I wish I was biiiig"
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 15, 2008, 08:22:46 PM
Stephen King wouldn't touch AvP in a million years. It's not his style.
Why not? I remember him saying in a interview that he enjoy the first Alien movie.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 15, 2008, 08:59:29 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 15, 2008, 08:22:46 PM
Stephen King wouldn't touch AvP in a million years. It's not his style.
Why not? I remember him saying in a interview that he enjoy the first Alien movie.
There's a huge gap in quality me thinks.
What about Clive Barker? He can do a AVP perfectly. He can make dark, bloddy and evil AVP movie.
Guillermo del Toro would easily be my first choice. But he'd never touch the AvP franchise, especially the 3rd sequel at that.
Having that said, here are my other picks.
Ryuhei Kitamura
David Twohy
Vincenzo Natali
Alexandre Aja
Quote from: StealthHunter on Apr 15, 2008, 09:49:35 PM
Guillermo del Toro would easily be my first choice.
He was offered the director's chair for the first movie but opted to Hellboy instead. Too bad he never did the direct the movie though.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 15, 2008, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: StealthHunter on Apr 15, 2008, 09:49:35 PM
Guillermo del Toro would easily be my first choice.
Too bad he never did the direct the movie though.
My thoughts exactly. He would've made a kick-ass movie.
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Guillermo del Toro would easily be my first choice.
Too bad he never did the direct the movie though.
He would've made a kick-ass movie.
The term kick-ass is quite an understatement when it comes to Guillermo del Toro. ;D
I hate it when people start swooning over del Toro, cos I always feel left out. I've seen plenty of the guy's work, but nothing that warrants half the praise he gets.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2008, 10:07:28 PM
I hate it when people start swooning over del Toro, cos I always feel left out. I've seen plenty of the guy's work, but nothing that warrants half the praise he gets.
you should see pans labyrinth.
Quote from: marrerom on Apr 15, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
you should see pans labyrinth.
I wanted to walk out halfway through.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2008, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Apr 15, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
you should see pans labyrinth.
I wanted to walk out halfway through.
When Vidal smashes the kid's face in with the bottle? Yeah that was pretty f**king harsh.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2008, 10:07:28 PM
I hate it when people start swooning over del Toro, cos I always feel left out. I've seen plenty of the guy's work, but nothing that warrants half the praise he gets.
He made Pans Labyrinth, Blade 2 and Hellboy which where great movies. If he didn't made Hellboy then AVP would be a masterpice.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 15, 2008, 10:20:04 PM
He made Pans Labyrinth, Blade 2 and Hellboy
Three movies I've seen and do not care for.
said it before, and ill say it again Bill Paxton!
If any director is going to make another AVP it will most likey going to be a bad one. We will be lucky to get a good director. I woun't be suprise if Fox hires Joel Schumacher to direct.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2008, 10:07:28 PM
I hate it when people start swooning over del Toro, cos I always feel left out. I've seen plenty of the guy's work, but nothing that warrants half the praise he gets.
So who do you recommend then?
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2008, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 15, 2008, 10:20:04 PM
He made Pans Labyrinth, Blade 2 and Hellboy
Three movies I've seen and do not care for.
I agree, I don't understand the excessive praise he gets either. Pans Labyrinth was his best movie so far. It wasn't at all what I expected (somewhat of a letdown) but it was a solid film once I got past it's not a new-age
Never Ending Story type movie. :P
Hellboy was riddled with stupid one-liners and I only enjoyed Blade II because at the time I was still in martial arts and anything with ninjas I loved. 8)
So I don't hold him in such high regard either.. Hellboy 2
looks interesting.. hopefully he's gotten better since Hellboy 1.
Hellboy was a good movie because it say to the comic books. Bale II was great because it was like the first movie but with more action and it had a good story.
He also made The Devil's Backbone which was pretty good movie. His worst movie would be Mimic IMO.
MY Predator story
For the third predator there should be two predators.
the opening film should have an old predator (elder) giving the blessing to his both predators sons
I think they should have two predators both brothers go to Iraq and kill terrorist and troops. they would get caught in the middle of war against terrorism. once there one of the predator gets caught by the weyland industries and they run tests on him and strip him of his armor and weapons. he is put in a water tube. this predator deserved to be caught after all he is an immature predator. so now we only have one predator running around freely. he's mission originally was to kill and get trophies but his mission changes and needs to get his brother out of that facility which gets pretty gruesome once he incounters it. Theres shooting everywhere and the predator kills anybody in sight doesn't matter if you have a gun or not, your dead. We should also see how the predator skins and hangs people. that could be a cool scene because we could have a predator kill some terrorist in a cave. he be like this is my cave and your dead. since there's no trees or buildings in Iraq he uses the caves. and mountains. in that same scene a bunch of us troops should come and find the terrorist dead hanging and they would be clueless. They don't know what happen here and have no idea what could have done this to these men. One of the troops approaches a dead hanging body and saids "Carl you have any idea of who or what could have done this" Carl "the Rock" I don't know but I don't like it tim. pause " alright cut these men down and send them back to the base so we can run further test on them maybe we our doctors can find something out" SAID CARL. Tim ADDS "you her him men cut them and send them. Carl " alright spread out lets see if we can find anything else. THE PREDATOR WATCHES CARL AS HE ORDERS HIS TROOPS IN AND AORUND THE CAVE. HE IS SITTING ON TOP OF A HILL JUST OUTSIDE THE CAVE. HIS CAMOFLAGE IS ON SO NON OF THE US TROOPS CAN SEE HIM. why would somebody do that to those men duke. Duke" I really don't care they deserved to get killed compare to what they did to our soil. Ernie " yeah I know but I...I.. what if there's some kind of crazy shit that we don't know about. Duke " Ernie you worry to much ,try to keep a cool head corporal.
Next scene serga so sign of any body else alive. Carl "these bodies are fresh anybody who did this to these men could have not be far away search keep searching. "Right" saids Tim. Alright people will camp here until daylight. In the morning we move out to Baghdad.
Next scene oh I slept like a kid last night: said kenny. Carl "alright people we move." THAT NIGHT THAT THE TROOPS WERE SLEEPING THE PREDATOR WENT TO THE CITY CLOSES TO HIM "BAGHDAD" AND STALKED THE TOWN AND IT'S PEOPLE HE WALKED THROUGH THE TOWN AS IF NOTHING COULD STOP HIM. HE BUMP INTO PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WOULD JUST REACTED WEIRD BECAUSE THEY WERE BUMPING INTO NOTHING. HE JUMP THE SMALL BUILDINGS OF THE CITY AND WONDERED HOW HE WAS GOING TO GET HIS TROPHY.
Random Scene: sarge come over here. Carl: yes Kenny: I'm no expert but those are not camel footprint right. And I doubt their horses. SOME SUSPENSE MUSIC Carl: alright people we move now.
Random Scene: one of the younger predator sees how the older predators are reviewing the data on a helmet of a predator that was killed in the last expedition "the first predator movie". and they are doing caculations of their own to determend who killed this predator.
The 3 scripts rolling around Hollywood.
1. Predator 3 deadliest of all species: in here we see Dutch return as an ex-soldier and a predator hunts him for his head.
2. Predator 3: this one involves a 17th century ship and some crew members who are being stalked by a predator.
3. The zoo: here we have Dutch and Harrigan return and the predators bring them back to there home world to fight against these predators in there arena.
MY second predator story
yes your right jamaica would be a better place for the story. i like the idea because of the trees. predators and trees just seem to fit together perfectly. i was thinking of another possible story.
it should begin where the first predator movie left off. some predators should appear after dutch leaves in the helicopter. They should turn off their invisibilty off and recover the helmet from the first predator after that they should review it's data like AVPR and another predator should go after dutch because he is such a compatative game. i don't like the idea of somebody else playing arnold.it just makes me not watch predator ever again it's bad really bad if somebody else plays him, bad i tell you. so i changed the story a little bit and all this was just some brain storming. what if the predators get the helmet but instead of reviewing the data they store it somewhere put it away somewhere i dont know like a wall or something like AVPR. they can't review the data in the helmet until 30 years have past by or so. once the time comes and they get the chance to review the data they can go and kill the person(DUTCH) who kill one of it's comrades. if that person is dead then they go after his/hers offspring(DUTCH'S KIDS). they know who the kids are after all they are stalkers(predators).they go after his kids because there the same blood they might have some compatative fight in them. and i though of the perfect offspring of dutch my freinds THE ROCK wrestler. how well in the first predator movie dutch and the hostage girl got it on if you know what i mean. and there made THE ROCK. the rock follows his fathers footsteps and becomes a marine special elite force. and the fight can continue. if i apply this with the first story and combined it ina away i could make a pretty damn good story. and jamaica would be the place lol...
Scene: Scene: THE SMALL PREDATOR STRUGGLES AS THE ADULT PREDATORS TAKE HIM AWAY FROM HIS DEAD FATHER THAT WAS KILLED IN HIS EXPEDITION BY AN SOFT MEAT (HUMAN). HE BEGINS TO ROAR AT THE DATA THAT THE HELMET IS RELEASING IN THE SCREEN. THE HUMAN OF COURSE ID ARNOLD DUTCH.
SCARY Scene: A SMALL PREDATOR (KID) IS SITTING OUTSIDE IN A ROCK AND SUDDENLY GETS THE URGE TO HUNT A DEER THAT HE SEES IN THE WOODS. , HE STALKS IT AND HE FIRES HE'S SHOULDER CANON REAPING THE DEER IN HALF. AN OLDER PREDATOR SEES HOW THE SMALL PREDATOR HAS ACHIEVED HIS KILLED AND SHOWS HIM HOW TO CLEAN THE TROPHY. MEAN WHILE IN ANOTHER PART OF THE SAME WOODS WE HAVE A TWO PREDATORS RECOVER THE HELMET FROM THE FIRST PREDATOR MOVIE.
Tittle: enemy among us
SCENE: IN THIS SCENE ONE OF THE PREDATORS TRIES TO ACTIVATE HIS BOMB DEVICE BUT ALL THE MARINES TALKDED HIM AND STOP HIM FROM PRESSING HIS BUTTONS. EVEN THOUGH THE PREDATOR IS ON THE GROUND ROLLING AROUND WITH THE TROOPS HOLDING HIM DOWN HE MANAGES TO KILLED ALL OF THEM AND TURNS ON HIS CAMAFLAGE AND GETS AWAY.
Scene: SOME TROOPS ARE WAITING FOR THE PREDATOR TO COME BACK TO HIS HIDEOUT IN THE CAVES. THE TROOPS ARE LYING IN THE GROUND WITH THEIR CAMOFLAGE ON AND THEY HAVE THEIR GUNS POINTING AT WHATEVER COMES IN TO THOSE CAVES. ALL OF THE SUDDEN THE PREDATOR SEES THEM WITH ITS HEAT VISION BUT THEY DON'T SEE HIM AND THE PREDATOR TURNS ON HIS CAMOFLAGE ON BEFORE HE GOES IN HIS CAVE AND WALKS SLOWLY SO THE TROOPS DON'T HEAR HIM. HE THROWS A MINE LOOKING THING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CAVE WHERE THE TROOPS ARE AT AND BLOWS THEM TO PIECES. HE THEN GOES IN THE CAVE AND TURNS OFF HIS CAMOFLAGE. IN THE CAVE HE KILLS THE REMAINING TROOPS AND HE GETS SOME TROPHIES FROM THAT BATTLE.
New weapon: we all are used to the weapons that the predator uses, but in my comic we are going to use a weapon that is different a weapon that can be used to killed effectively.
Scene: WHEN A HELICOPTER LEAVES THE SCENE WHERE THE SMALL NUKE BOMB TO PLACE THEN THREE PREDATOR TURN OF THEIR INVISIBILITY SHIELD OFF AND REVEILED THEMSELVES. AND THEY GO WHERE THEY THINK THE BOMB EXPLODED. BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET THEIR FALLING COMRADE AND HIS GEAR.
SCENE: THERE IS THREE PREDATORS WHO APPROACHED THE REMAINS OF A DEAD PREDATOR HE IS TORN TO PIECES AFTER THE EXPLOSION. THE PREDATORS ARE GATHERING HIS REMAINS AND HIS GEAR THAT WAS REMAIN IN THE EXPEDITION TO STUDY. AND FIGURE OUT WHO IS IT THAT KILL HIM.
Scene: One of the predators finds the helmet and shows it to an elder. The elder nods and the predator goes in the ship with holding the predator helmet. He later hooks the helmet to a computer which revieles all the data that was in the expedition.
Scene: the ship that the predators are driving if u will carry face huggers in water tubes.
Scene: predators are gathering information from what they have aquired from their falling comrade they . They are studying how he was killed. Who killed him and if he could have done a better expedition. All these questions are made so that future expeditions are better handle by other predators in the future. In this scene only two predators are walking around the computer room and they are observing the screen.
First Scene: in this scene a space ship predator obiosly comes to earth and collectes the remains of the predator afterwaeres. It comes with a small momentum it orbits earth while it gets ready to move in into the atmosphere.
For predator 3 there should definatly be new weapons these are some of my ideas 1.some sort of mines that explode 2.a sword with predator symbols from their culture 3. A bazoka an uprade to the shoulder canon, it may not sound like a good idea. maybe in the movie the predator loses his canon and has to use something else. Yes a predator is an alien who should terrify an audience. People should have nightmares after expericing the predator and it's fearful apperance. In predator three there should have a predator eat some human skin it sounds gruesome but it could be scary. And in predator 3 the predator should surprise a human and play with him a little before killing him (ex: the predator taps his head while the human pisses his pants. This guy should hold a gun because without a gun his no sport the predator thinks. The predator should laugh while the guy cries holding his gun. After that the predator kills him in a cool way, maybe throws him in the air and then blasts him with the shoulder canon.)avpr has some of that humans get predator technology and use it to defend themselves. Yes the predators in p1, p2, and AVPR look better than AVP in avp these aliens look wrestlers and there slow. predaors are fast thats one of there qualities it makes better to be fast when your hunting than being slow. In my previous stories I have a predator that should fight a predator and that would be awesome. because it would be a fair fight.
Yes I like that Arnie has visions of the predator. One problem though Arnie is way to f-in old to do another predator. How about arnie offspring o I don't know how about the rock "wrestler". the rock follows his fathers footsteps and becomes an elite force combat marine. In this predator 3 danny glover should appear but appear at the age that he is right now "old" and help the rock killed the predator. And why just one predator. They should have two in predator 3 can stress it enough. Danny glover dies and a predator makes a trophy out of his skull. But the one of the predators has the urge to kill the rock but the rock is a bad ass actor and kills the predator in a cool scene. big explosion after he kills him just like his dad
Idea: in this comic we should have a pimp as cover like the other comic books and it should be eye poping
Scene: the kid predator should have the same color like his fathers that was killed by a human.
Scene: In this scene we have a kid predator who has grown up like his dad and wants revenge for his dad killer. He puts on his dad helmet and adjustes the last few things before the hunt (expedition). He's by a table that has various hunting tools and gadgets. He chosses the best things that he thinks will get the job done in this trip. After he has gather his stuff he abords a ship that will take him to earth to find dutch. He doesn't find dutch because he has died but instead finds he's offspring "the rock" which has become a elite special force marine.
Tittle for predator 3: enemy among us
Scene: a predator takes out a helicopter with his razor disks. Or he uses his shoulder canons to take it out.
Scene: Dutch and the slave girl have sex which makes dutch offspring and the predator stalks him
Scene: en elder predator is sitting in his thrown and predators look up to him
Stan Winston should direct. He was awesome with Pumpkinhead, and he may end up with effects work.
Stop posting this. You already posted it in a different thread.
David Slade would be a good choice, I think. He did a steller job on Hard Candy, and followed up that intense character piece of a slice of genre pie in the form of 30 Days of Night.
Mix that up, and you could have something taut.
What about Peter Hyams? 2010 aka 2010: Odyssey Two (2010: The Year We Make Contact) was a very good sequel and he made some good movies like Narrow Margin, Our Time and The Star Chamber. I think he can make a great AVP movie, and his screenplay is pretty good as well.
He wrote an AVP?
Quote from: Alienseseses on Apr 17, 2008, 01:05:55 AM
He wrote an AVP?
Nope. But 2010: Odyssey was a very good sequel and i think he can make a good sequel. The reasson why his most of his movies now suck because he dons't write his screenplays anymore.
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Quote from: MoBiUGeArSkIn on Apr 16, 2008, 07:29:37 PM
30 Days of Night.
No. Nooo. No.
Aside from the pacing, which far better suited the original comic book, it's a very good vampire flick. Probably the best since Near Dark.
Considering just how lame vampires had become in recent years, I applaud the guy for making them scary again.
For me the directors should be Ridley Scott and Paul W.S Anderson
The Writer should be James Cameron
The Visuals Effect guys should be the Strouse Brothers
James Cameron and Ridley Scott(if they like AVP films)
I still think Christopher Nolan would be the perfect choice. He can make it dark and bloddy, and have a great story like the comic books.
Oh yeah forgot about him he can make both bring back to their feet like he did with Batman Begins.
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 23, 2008, 11:50:13 PM
James Cameron and Ridley Scott(if they like AVP films)
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( Of course they don't!
Would Ridley Scott really like his resume to look like this?
Alien, Blade Runner, Thelma and Louise, Hannibal, Matchstick Men, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, American Gangster,
Alien vs. Predator 3? (not in order)
Or what about James Cameron?
Terminator, Terminator 2, Aliens, The Abyss, Titanic, Avatar,
Alien vs. Predator 3? (not in order)
Who are you KIDDING?
James Cameron couldn't do Alien 5 because of AvP and Ridley Scott nearly had a heart attack when he saw it.
If you put Terminator 2 after Aliens and The Abyss, it'd be in order :P
Quote from: SiL on Apr 24, 2008, 12:03:35 AM
If you put Terminator 2 after Aliens and The Abyss, it'd be in order :P
Psst, I put "(not in order)", because I didn't feel like sorting them out by their years. :)
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 23, 2008, 11:59:42 PM
Oh yeah forgot about him he can make both bring back to their feet like he did with Batman Begins.
Yeah but i'm not sure if he is a fan or not.
I think at this point he'd only be willing to do Alien 5 if that anymore after AVP but James Cameron would be my number one choice for the job
Well could be a fan if he saw either the aliens or the predator franchise. Pvt.Hicks is just my opinion it might not never happen so relax dude. :)
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 24, 2008, 12:04:36 AM
Psst, I put "(not in order)", because I didn't feel like sorting them out by their years. :)
Psst, I can actually read. I was just saying.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 24, 2008, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 24, 2008, 12:04:36 AM
Psst, I put "(not in order)", because I didn't feel like sorting them out by their years. :)
Psst, I can actually read. I was just saying.
I know, just jivin' ya SiL.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 24, 2008, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 23, 2008, 11:50:13 PM
James Cameron and Ridley Scott(if they like AVP films)
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( Of course they don't!
Would Ridley Scott really like his resume to look like this?
Alien, Blade Runner, Thelma and Louise, Hannibal, Matchstick Men, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, American Gangster, Alien vs. Predator 3? (not in order)
Or what about James Cameron?
Terminator, Terminator 2, Aliens, The Abyss, Titanic, Avatar, Alien vs. Predator 3? (not in order)
Who are you KIDDING?
James Cameron couldn't do Alien 5 because of AvP and Ridley Scott nearly had a heart attack when he saw it.
Cameron liked AvP, what are you on about?
This would probably never happen but I'd like to see James Cameron and John McTiernan to do a third AvP
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 24, 2008, 04:57:42 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 24, 2008, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 23, 2008, 11:50:13 PM
James Cameron and Ridley Scott(if they like AVP films)
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( Of course they don't!
Would Ridley Scott really like his resume to look like this?
Alien, Blade Runner, Thelma and Louise, Hannibal, Matchstick Men, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, American Gangster, Alien vs. Predator 3? (not in order)
Or what about James Cameron?
Terminator, Terminator 2, Aliens, The Abyss, Titanic, Avatar, Alien vs. Predator 3? (not in order)
Who are you KIDDING?
James Cameron couldn't do Alien 5 because of AvP and Ridley Scott nearly had a heart attack when he saw it.
Cameron liked AvP, what are you on about?
He did?
At first he said the concept was a bad idea, but then he said he enjoyed the film itself. I'm looking for the link as we speak.
See i thought the concept was good it was done badly.
but once more i call for ALex Proyas
I'd like to see what ideas (if any) Neil Marshall has for the AVP/Alien/Predator franchise.
Stephen Hopkins would do it good. I liked what he did with Predator 2. Alot of the Predator weapons were his idea. Since none of the past Alien writers want anything to do with AVP, the Thomas bros should write the screenplay. They seemed interested in AVP when they talked about it in the P2 commentary.
I woun't mind Joel Schumacher if he does not write the screenplay and give Predators manly nipples, and there own credit card.
Are you serious?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 24, 2008, 08:03:27 PM
Are you serious?
A Time to Kill, Lost Boys and The Phantom of the Opera where good movies. The only bad movies he made where Batman & Robin and The Number 23.
number 23 was awesome
Is it?
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 24, 2008, 07:08:03 PM
I woun't mind Joel Schumacher if he does not write the screenplay and give Predators manly nipples, and there own credit card.
Yea, the man who nearly killed comic book movies for good.
Hey, unlike the Bros he actually apologises for what he did on the DVD commentary :P
Quote from: SiL on Apr 24, 2008, 09:16:02 PM
Hey, unlike the Bros he actually apologises for what he did on the DVD commentary :P
The bros have nothing to apolagize for, especially since they didnt have much control over what they had to work with. Go revive the John Davis hate thread.
I never said i wanted him to do it but it was just a idea.
Directors i want
Christopher Nolan (Batman begins, Memento)
Andy Wachowski & Larry Wachowski (The Matrix, V for Vendetta)
Paul Verhoeven (Robocop, Starship troopers)
Francis Lawrence (I Am Legend, Constantine)
Peter Hyams (2010, End of days)
Zack Snyder (Dawn of the dead, 300)
Robert R... (sin city, planet terror) would be interesting to see how he could contribute to this franchise... especially making Predator3... I do wish that James and ridley would work together on a film... That would indeed be a dream come true....
Same here dude same here.
Quote from: Amaymyon666 on Apr 24, 2008, 09:26:13 PM
I do wish that James and ridley would work together on a film... That would indeed be a dream come true....
I doubt they even could. Cameron is more action-y, Ridley focuses more on drama and suspense.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 24, 2008, 09:37:55 PM
Quote from: Amaymyon666 on Apr 24, 2008, 09:26:13 PM
I do wish that James and ridley would work together on a film... That would indeed be a dream come true....
I doubt they even could. Cameron is more action-y, Ridley focuses more on drama and suspense.
I dont know man. Gladiator was pretty heavy on the action.
I doubt Ridley scott would do a AVP movie. Alien 5 is more possibe for him to make then a AVP movie.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 24, 2008, 09:37:55 PM
Quote from: Amaymyon666 on Apr 24, 2008, 09:26:13 PM
I do wish that James and ridley would work together on a film... That would indeed be a dream come true....
I doubt they even could. Cameron is more action-y, Ridley focuses more on drama and suspense.
It doesn't matter both of them can do a great job for the next AVP film.(If that happens.)
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 24, 2008, 09:58:35 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 24, 2008, 09:37:55 PM
Quote from: Amaymyon666 on Apr 24, 2008, 09:26:13 PM
I do wish that James and ridley would work together on a film... That would indeed be a dream come true....
I doubt they even could. Cameron is more action-y, Ridley focuses more on drama and suspense.
It doesn't matter both of them can do a great job for the next AVP film.(If that happens.)
Dont hold ya breath.
I would like it if James directed most of it and had Ridley doing guest direction in parts of the film... either way both directors are amazing and i would be happy knowing if at least one of them had a hand in the franchise again....
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 24, 2008, 09:58:12 PM
I doubt Ridley scott would do a AVP movie. Alien 5 is more possibe for him to make then a AVP movie.
If only him or Cameron got an Im gonna save the Alien franchise attitude and decided to do AVP 3, cause Fox doesnt want an Alien 5.
if they wanted to they could do alien five. both cameran and scott know how to pitch a film.
What about Neil Marshall?
Quote from: Horhey on Apr 24, 2008, 09:17:48 PM
The bros have nothing to apolagize for, especially since they didnt have much control over what they had to work with. Go revive the John Davis hate thread.
They had every bit of control over how they portrayed the Aliens. They've said more than once that the Aliens not fighting back in the sewers was their doing to show how good Wolf was.
Quote from: marrerom on Apr 24, 2008, 10:40:07 PM
NO that guys sucks.
The heck is wrong with Neil Marshall?
Dog Soldiers was brilliant and
The Descent was creepy as all get out.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 24, 2008, 10:50:46 PM
The heck is wrong with Neil Marshall? Dog Soldiers was brilliant and The Descent was creepy as all get out.
imo dog soldier was a really stupid movie, and the descent had its moments but really its wasnt anything special....and my god...doomsday sucked so much ass. it was unbelievably bad.
the guy only make schlockly movies.
Quote from: marrerom on Apr 24, 2008, 10:54:37 PM
imo dog soldier was a really stupid movie,
Say
whaaaa? How was it stupid? It took every genre convention it could find and had fun with it. The werewolves were scary - I really think that's how the Aliens should be shown in these movies - the action scenes were great ... Sean Pertwee, man! Sean. Freaking. Pertwee. What more could you want?!
Quote from: SiL on Apr 24, 2008, 10:58:02 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Apr 24, 2008, 10:54:37 PM
imo dog soldier was a really stupid movie,
Say whaaaa? How was it stupid? It took every genre convention it could find and had fun with it. The werewolves were scary - I really think that's how the Aliens should be shown in these movies - the action scenes were great ... Sean Pertwee, man! Sean. Freaking. Pertwee. What more could you want?!
Was Dog Soliders that good? I've never had a chance to see it. Who is Sean Pertwee?
Quote from: Lord-Naraku on Apr 24, 2008, 11:05:00 PM
Was Dog Soliders that good? I've never had a chance to see it. Who is Sean Pertwee?
My only beef with the film is it slows to a halt about halfway through, but then it picks up and really gets going. Sean Pertwee is an actor.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 24, 2008, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: Lord-Naraku on Apr 24, 2008, 11:05:00 PM
Was Dog Soliders that good? I've never had a chance to see it. Who is Sean Pertwee?
My only beef with the film is it slows to a halt about halfway through, but then it picks up and really gets going. Sean Pertwee is an actor.
I'll have to check it out. And I gathered that much ::) but you know what I mean, like what all has he done?
QuoteThe heck is wrong with Neil Marshall? Dog Soldiers was brilliant and The Descent was creepy as all get out.
I agree with you Sil...Neil Marshall is awesome!!!..even tho I didnt think the Descent was too creepy, but it had great suspense...
Quote from: Lord-Naraku on Apr 24, 2008, 11:42:41 PM
And I gathered that much ::) but you know what I mean, like what all has he done?
I think I've only ever seen him in
Equilibrium and
Event Horizon (Scotty? The pilot? Walks back into the ship, sees the bomb, goes "oh no", ship blows) outside of
Dog Soldiers. Or at least those are the only two I can remember.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 24, 2008, 11:44:59 PM
Quote from: Lord-Naraku on Apr 24, 2008, 11:42:41 PM
And I gathered that much ::) but you know what I mean, like what all has he done?
I think I've only ever seen him in Equilibrium and Event Horizon (Scotty? The pilot? Walks back into the ship, sees the bomb, goes "oh no", ship blows) outside of Dog Soldiers. Or at least those are the only two I can remember.
Ah, gotcha. That guy.
Quote from: Horhey on Apr 24, 2008, 09:52:06 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 24, 2008, 09:37:55 PM
Quote from: Amaymyon666 on Apr 24, 2008, 09:26:13 PM
I do wish that James and ridley would work together on a film... That would indeed be a dream come true....
I doubt they even could. Cameron is more action-y, Ridley focuses more on drama and suspense.
I dont know man. Gladiator was pretty heavy on the action.
But the drama was ever-present.
Quote from: sweeteyes on Apr 24, 2008, 11:44:42 PM
QuoteThe heck is wrong with Neil Marshall? Dog Soldiers was brilliant and The Descent was creepy as all get out.
I agree with you Sil...Neil Marshall is awesome!!!..even tho I didnt think the Descent was too creepy, but it had great suspense...
The Descent didn't scare you at all?
The Descent was great until the creatures showed up.
The natural elements of pot-holing were much more terrifying for me, for example when one of them got trapped in a tight space and almost got crushed in a cave-in. I got sweaty palms watching that scene because I know that if I was in that situation I would absolutely lose it and probably shit my pants. It just got too hammy when the creatures showed up, which wouldn't have been a problem if all the elements that made the movie scary up to that point hadn't been completely thrown out the window. Dog Soldiers kept a good balance, The Descent didn't in my opinion.
I heard that the Decent was a poor excuse to live up to the original Alien. I still haven't seen it yet but everyone has just discouraged me from doing so. What to the creatures look like?
Albino flat-faced people.
I don't get why people draw a comparison to Alien... the films have almost nothing in common besides a female protagonist.
Imagine Gollum with big f**king teeth and pointy ears and you basically have the creatures from The Descent.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Apr 25, 2008, 12:50:08 AM
I don't get why people draw a comparison to Alien... the films have almost nothing in common besides a female protagonist.
Imagine Gollum with big f**king teeth and pointy ears and you basically have the creatures from The Descent.
Well when they first started to show commercials for the trailer they were saying it was a scary as Alien.... I was like.. yeah right. ::)
Wow, that description sounds really gay.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 24, 2008, 10:50:46 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Apr 24, 2008, 10:40:07 PM
NO that guys sucks.
The heck is wrong with Neil Marshall? Dog Soldiers was brilliant and The Descent was creepy as all get out.
Indeed. I mentioned Neil Marshall I few pages back. I think he's one of the best directors in his genre. He could definitely handle an A/P/AVP film. He's proven he can do a mix of action and horror (Dog Soldiers) like in Predator and Aliens, and he's proven to be able to make a terrifying horror movie (The Descent). I'd would cut of a digit to see him helm an Alien or Predator
solo film.
Wasn't Dog Soldiers based on films such as Aliens and Predator? That may have just been reviewers spotting similarities but I've definitively heard them in conjunction with one another.
All this has got me thinking about Dog Soldiers. DVD collection, here I come.
I think Dog Soldiers was more a tip of the hat too Zulu or the actual battle Rorkes Drift. Which is mentioned by Spoon "Balls of British steel" ;D
Quote from: severen76 on Apr 25, 2008, 02:40:54 PM
I think Dog Soldiers was more a tip of the hat too Zulu or the actual battle Rorkes Drift. Which is mentioned by Spoon "Balls of British steel" ;D
'I hope you get the shits you f**kin' pussy!'
The best 'I'm about to get eaten' one liner I've ever heard. Spoon is the greatest.
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Quote from: marrerom on Apr 24, 2008, 10:40:07 PM
NO that guys sucks.
The heck is wrong with Neil Marshall? Dog Soldiers was brilliant and The Descent was creepy as all get out.
Indeed. I mentioned Neil Marshall I few pages back. I think he's one of the best directors in his genre. He could definitely handle an A/P/AVP film. He's proven he can do a mix of action and horror (Dog Soldiers) like in Predator and Aliens, and he's proven to be able to make a terrifying horror movie (The Descent). I'd would cut of a digit to see him helm an Alien or Predator solo film.
Wasn't Dog Soldiers based on films such as Aliens and Predator? That may have just been reviewers spotting similarities but I've definitively heard them in conjunction with one another.
All this has got me thinking about Dog Soldiers. DVD collection, here I come.
Neil Marshall would be brilliant choice, carnt believe I never mentioned him. Every one I know who's seen the decent says its scary as hell and it is including dog soldiers which had its moments. I could see him getting the scariness back and get good action and intense moments and hopefully more importantly likable characters again.
Quote from: Aeus on Apr 25, 2008, 02:13:32 PM
Wasn't Dog Soldiers based on films such as Aliens and Predator? That may have just been reviewers spotting similarities but I've definitively heard them in conjunction with one another.
He mentions the Alien films at least in the commentary, I think. Certainly references
Alien in
The Descent's commentary. Pretty sure he took the line "Short, controlled burst" right out of
Aliens and says as much.
Quote'I hope you get the shits you f**kin' pussy!'
The best 'I'm about to get eaten' one liner I've ever heard. Spoon is the greatest.
"I hope I give you the shits you f**king wimp."
Quote from: SiL on Apr 25, 2008, 09:52:55 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Apr 25, 2008, 02:13:32 PM
Wasn't Dog Soldiers based on films such as Aliens and Predator? That may have just been reviewers spotting similarities but I've definitively heard them in conjunction with one another.
He mentions the Alien films at least in the commentary, I think. Certainly references Alien in The Descent's commentary. Pretty sure he took the line "Short, controlled burst" right out of Aliens and says as much.
Yeah. I need to listen to the commentaries at some point.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Apr 25, 2008, 09:55:37 PM
Quote'I hope you get the shits you f**kin' pussy!'
The best 'I'm about to get eaten' one liner I've ever heard. Spoon is the greatest.
"I hope I give you the shits you f**king wimp."
:D
Ah well, I nearly got it.
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Quote from: sweeteyes on Apr 24, 2008, 11:44:42 PM
QuoteThe heck is wrong with Neil Marshall? Dog Soldiers was brilliant and The Descent was creepy as all get out.
I agree with you Sil...Neil Marshall is awesome!!!..even tho I didnt think the Descent was too creepy, but it had great suspense...
The Descent didn't scare you at all?
No , it didnt...and the lights were all out and the sound turned up for maximum effect.... ::)
Quote from: sweeteyes on Apr 25, 2008, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 25, 2008, 12:37:01 AM
Quote from: sweeteyes on Apr 24, 2008, 11:44:42 PM
QuoteThe heck is wrong with Neil Marshall? Dog Soldiers was brilliant and The Descent was creepy as all get out.
I agree with you Sil...Neil Marshall is awesome!!!..even tho I didnt think the Descent was too creepy, but it had great suspense...
The Descent didn't scare you at all?
No , it didnt...and the lights were all out and the sound turned up for maximum effect.... ::)
Did you ever watch
The Grudge with the lights turned off. :P
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Quote from: sweeteyes on Apr 25, 2008, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 25, 2008, 12:37:01 AM
Quote from: sweeteyes on Apr 24, 2008, 11:44:42 PM
QuoteThe heck is wrong with Neil Marshall? Dog Soldiers was brilliant and The Descent was creepy as all get out.
I agree with you Sil...Neil Marshall is awesome!!!..even tho I didnt think the Descent was too creepy, but it had great suspense...
The Descent didn't scare you at all?
No , it didnt...and the lights were all out and the sound turned up for maximum effect.... ::)
Did you ever watch The Grudge with the lights turned off. :P
Sev sweety...dont go there... ;)
What about Ethan Coen (No Country for Old Men, O Brother Where Art Thou?).
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 26, 2008, 12:32:21 AM
What about Ethan Coen (No Country for Old Men, O Brother Where Art Thou?).
Can't see that ever happening. I don't think it should either.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 26, 2008, 12:32:21 AM
What about Ethan Coen (No Country for Old Men, O Brother Where Art Thou?).
Their movie won awards, they have standards, which means no AVP.
Quote from: Craig on Apr 27, 2008, 08:53:50 AM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 26, 2008, 12:32:21 AM
What about Ethan Coen (No Country for Old Men, O Brother Where Art Thou?).
Their movie won awards, they have standards, which means no AVP.
They dont d sc-fi anyway.
'The Descent' and 'The Cave' came out at basically the same time with, coincidentally, similar concepts.
'The Descent': Much better characterisation. Conveyed the feeling of claustraphobia amazingly well. Unfortunately, the creatures were piss-poor, portrayed as being more or less fairly easy to beat and hte conclusion was a bit of an (albeit unexpected) cop-out. Have heard that was changed for the United States aduience market, however. Even so, large tracts of it are unfortunately fairly boring.
'The Cave': Much better cinematography. Part of it are even rather beautiful. The creatures are a good sight better - not all that great, for a monster, but do look a lot more lethal. It's essentially a more typically Hollywood action piece and, strangely, whilst having a 12 certificate, Piper Perabo's character is very gratuitously raped to death by one of the creatures, which was very surprising.
Put the characterisation and claustrophobic fear of 'The Descent' with the cinematography and higher octane of 'The Cave' and there could have probably been a classic.
Both needed better creatures, although 'The Cave' definitely wins out on that. However, 'The Descent' features Alex Reid as a secondary character, who never ceases to amaze me with acting talent. She actually managed to make 'Arachnid' watchable.
Ultimately, you have to go with how the creatures are handled, if you're thinking of translating the same person's vision to an 'Alien' or 'Predator' film. In that regard, the more British of the two productions had failed for me.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 27, 2008, 12:27:29 PM
'The Descent': Much better characterisation. Conveyed the feeling of claustraphobia amazingly well. Unfortunately, the creatures were piss-poor, portrayed as being more or less fairly easy to beat and hte conclusion was a bit of an (albeit unexpected) cop-out. Have heard that was changed for the United States aduience market, however. Even so, large tracts of it are unfortunately fairly boring.
The conclusion wasn't a cop out at all. It was meant to have an ambiguous ending to make the reader think about the events in the film. Whether there were actually monsters, or did Sarah just go insane in the cave and wound up killing her friends? It's one of the few films these days that actually makes you
think at the end. Hence why it's such a loved film.
To even compare it to a piss poor movie like 'The Cave' is beyond me...
How can they not be compared? They were both about the same basic thing and came out at the same time.
One had better characterisation and claustraphobia, the other had better cinematography and creatures.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 27, 2008, 01:43:02 PM
How can they not be compared? They were both about the same basic thing and came out at the same time.
I don't disagree with that, it just annoys me that people compares such a great film, to such a shit one. The difference is quality is huge.
Quote
One had better characterisation and claustraphobia, the other had better cinematography and creatures.
I don't recall The Cave having anything special in the cinematography department. As for the creatures, the Descent had by far the more believable creatures, and the more effective creatures in terms of producing scares. The Cave had huge things that flew....And lived in caves....That makes sense...
Quote from: Aeus on Apr 27, 2008, 02:34:46 PM
I don't disagree with that, it just annoys me that people compares such a great film, to such a shit one. The difference is quality is huge.
They each had better qualities than the other, as explained above. '
The Cave was more sterotypically generic, although I also found it more entertaining, even though it was less 'intelligent', if you will.
QuoteI don't recall The Cave having anything special in the cinematography department.
It had some beautiful shots. There's a whole feature on the DVD, which goes into how they got professional underwater cave film people to get a few of them. '
The Descent', by contrast, was mostly just dark and a typical British film, in so much as it seemed sort of low-ish budget, in comparison to Hollywood stuff.
I don't care much for '
The Cave', but cinematography-wise, it seemed the prettier.
QuoteAs for the creatures, the Descent had by far the more believable creatures, and the more effective creatures in terms of producing scares. The Cave had huge things that flew....And lived in caves....That makes sense...
So? The other film also had things which lived in caves. :) They both dealt with things which had mutated. '
The Cave' just had ones which had gone to more of an extreme.
They weren't exactly great creature designs, but they looked like they could f**k you up. '
The Descent' just had psychotic versions of a blind Gollum wandering around. The girls even showed that, so long as you gave as good as you got, they could pretty much be hit/kicked to death.
Neither film's creatures overly impressed me, but out of the two, one had a far more imposing predatory design.
Characterisation and dialogue, sure. '
The Descent' wins. But most of it didn't scare me and the monsters were a real anti-climax for me. '
The Cave' was a lot more superficial and yet had more entertainment value for me.
It's like '
Alien' and '
Predator', in a way. The former is effectively the superior product, for me, but it takes me a while before I can sit through the whole thing, whereas I pretty much can at any time with the other.
I think Terry Gilliam (Tweleve Monkeys) would be a good choice.
Sure, The Descent might be lacking something in creature portrayal. But Dog Soldiers certainly wasn't.
Wasn't there anohter film released in the same period call The Cavern?
Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Sure, The Descent might be lacking something in creature portrayal. But Dog Soldiers certainly wasn't.
In normal light, the costumes were average. But the way they were filmed insured they always looked top dollar.
The only time I had an issue with the costumes in that film was when the Werewolf puts its face right up in front of Spoon's. Other than that they were great.
Out of topic but Steven Spielberg
Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Sure, The Descent might be lacking something in creature portrayal. But Dog Soldiers certainly wasn't.
I'm going to have to go rent that movie since you keep bringing it up. It must be as good as you say it is.
The Descent owns. It's a brilliant film. I think the crawlers were some of the most well realised movie monsters ever seen... but they had very limited prosthetic enhancement. There was stuff glued on to the face, and also the guys man-bits were covered up.
Other than that, I'm pretty sure they were just naked guys covered in body paint.
Quote from: Lyana on Apr 28, 2008, 03:17:16 PM
Out of topic but Steven Spielberg
I doubt he'd do a vs. movie. Not his style.
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Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Sure, The Descent might be lacking something in creature portrayal. But Dog Soldiers certainly wasn't.
I'm going to have to go rent that movie since you keep bringing it up. It must be as good as you say it is.
Both the Descent and Dog Soldiers are great films. Especially Dog Soldiers if you're from the UK / raised in the UK.
Quote from: Aeus on Apr 28, 2008, 04:41:33 PM
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Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
Sure, The Descent might be lacking something in creature portrayal. But Dog Soldiers certainly wasn't.
I'm going to have to go rent that movie since you keep bringing it up. It must be as good as you say it is.
Both the Descent and Dog Soldiers are great films. Especially Dog Soldiers if you're from the UK / raised in the UK.
I saw the Descent... to me it sucked but thats just my opinion.
Quote from: Lyana on Apr 28, 2008, 03:17:16 PM
Out of topic but Steven Spielberg
That is perfectly on topic.
Like i said before. Terry Gilliam would be a nice idea for a AVP movie.
Doesn't he do loads of fantasy comedies?
Quote from: Aeus on Apr 28, 2008, 08:56:48 PM
Doesn't he do loads of fantasy comedies?
He does that kind of style. Which wouldn't work for an Alien or Predator film, I mean people moan about Resurrection being funny.
Quote from: Aeus on Apr 28, 2008, 08:56:48 PM
Doesn't he do loads of fantasy comedies?
He made 12 monkeys which is a Sci-Fi. He also made Brazi as well and he turned down the opportunity to direct Alien Resurrection at one point.
Quote from: Aeus on Apr 28, 2008, 01:19:41 PM
In normal light, the costumes were average. But the way they were filmed insured they always looked top dollar.
Exactly. That's part of what this kind of movie needs - Someone who knows how to show the creatures effectively.
It won't matter because any director they will get won't be a credible one.
There won't be a big budget, there won't be good actors, there won't be anything. It'll be the same quality as AvP and AvP-R. Even MY optism has effectively diminished 100%.
^You don't know that. Maybe Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan will direct AVP3.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 29, 2008, 01:31:03 AM
^You don't know that. Maybe Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan will direct AVP3.
Nevermind.
Just. Nevermind.
That's like saying Steven Spielberg is going to direct Hostel 3.
I have hope that this series will make a awesome comeback just like Superman Returns and Batman Begins was.
Anything's possible. But given the history, it seems unlikely.
Jon Favreau...
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 29, 2008, 02:09:20 AM
Anything's possible. But given the history, it seems unlikely.
Well no one thought that another Batman movie after the 4th movie then we see saw Batman Begins which was good.
Quote from: Aran on Apr 29, 2008, 02:12:23 AM
Jon Favreau...
Wait till you watch Iron Man ;)
Robert Rodrigeuz, he had a script i believe for Predator 3 on some boat, but i think he could truly make a good AVP movie.
We seriously need a miracle to save this franchise... FOX needs to stop taking a sh1t on its fans but I know that'll never happen.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 29, 2008, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 29, 2008, 02:09:20 AM
Anything's possible. But given the history, it seems unlikely.
Well no one thought that another Batman movie after the 4th movie then we see saw Batman Begins which was good.
Those films had already seen a level of success though with the first two movies. It wasn't a failed franchise from the get-go.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 29, 2008, 01:31:03 AM
^You don't know that. Maybe Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan will direct AVP3.
Chris Nolan....?
Dear me, you are deluded.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 29, 2008, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Aran on Apr 29, 2008, 02:12:23 AM
Jon Favreau...
Wait till you watch Iron Man ;)
aint gona be worried bout it. from the trailer it looks cool.
Quote from: Aeus on Apr 29, 2008, 04:34:25 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 29, 2008, 01:31:03 AM
^You don't know that. Maybe Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan will direct AVP3.
Chris Nolan....?
Dear me, you are deluded.
Batman Begins in the best comic book movie to date. He reboot a crappy series into a great new series. Just think what a AVP movie would be like if he direct one. He can make it dark just like the comics.
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Quote from: Aran on Apr 29, 2008, 02:12:23 AM
Jon Favreau...
Wait till you watch Iron Man ;)
aint gona be worried bout it. from the trailer it looks cool.
Any movie can look good from a trailer. When you watch a movie as a whole everything can change.
I experienced this more then once.
Trust me, you can
love the trailer of a movie, and
hate the shit out of it when you watch it.
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Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 29, 2008, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Aran on Apr 29, 2008, 02:12:23 AM
Jon Favreau...
Wait till you watch Iron Man ;)
aint gona be worried bout it. from the trailer it looks cool.
Any movie can look good from a trailer. When you watch a movie as a whole everything can change.
I experienced this more then once.
Trust me, you can love the trailer of a movie, and hate the shit out of it when you watch it.
Like AVP
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Quote from: Aran on Apr 29, 2008, 02:12:23 AM
Jon Favreau...
Wait till you watch Iron Man ;)
aint gona be worried bout it. from the trailer it looks cool.
Any movie can look good from a trailer. When you watch a movie as a whole everything can change.
I experienced this more then once.
Trust me, you can love the trailer of a movie, and hate the shit out of it when you watch it.
Like AVP
Very true..
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 29, 2008, 05:09:16 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Apr 29, 2008, 04:34:25 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 29, 2008, 01:31:03 AM
^You don't know that. Maybe Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan will direct AVP3.
Chris Nolan....?
Dear me, you are deluded.
Batman Begins in the best comic book movie to date. He reboot a crappy series into a great new series. Just think what a AVP movie would be like if he direct one. He can make it dark just like the comics.
I wasn't saying he could reboot the franchise. I was just commenting on you saying 'Maybe Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan will direct AVP3'. There is no maybe, Nolan will never direct an AVP movie.
Quote from: wolfboy22 on Apr 29, 2008, 05:20:34 PM
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Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 29, 2008, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Aran on Apr 29, 2008, 02:12:23 AM
Jon Favreau...
Wait till you watch Iron Man ;)
aint gona be worried bout it. from the trailer it looks cool.
Any movie can look good from a trailer. When you watch a movie as a whole everything can change.
I experienced this more then once.
Trust me, you can love the trailer of a movie, and hate the shit out of it when you watch it.
Like AVP
Its a good example.
Although i dont hate it, its just not what it could have been and the moment the predator teams up with a female human being (his prey goddamnit) its just... mehh
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 29, 2008, 05:24:15 PM
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Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 29, 2008, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Aran on Apr 29, 2008, 02:12:23 AM
Jon Favreau...
Wait till you watch Iron Man ;)
aint gona be worried bout it. from the trailer it looks cool.
Any movie can look good from a trailer. When you watch a movie as a whole everything can change.
I experienced this more then once.
Trust me, you can love the trailer of a movie, and hate the shit out of it when you watch it.
Like AVP
Its a good example.
Although i dont hate it, its just not what it could have been and the moment the predator teams up with a female human being (his prey goddamnit) its just... mehh
That's true but the thing about it is that the trailers made the movie look great, but I guess they fooled us >:(
Yeah when i watch the trailer sometimes here and there i still think that looks f**king great.
I know what you mean but if you watch the movie you'll be sadly mistaken my friend ;D
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 29, 2008, 05:12:32 PM
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Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 29, 2008, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Aran on Apr 29, 2008, 02:12:23 AM
Jon Favreau...
Wait till you watch Iron Man ;)
aint gona be worried bout it. from the trailer it looks cool.
Any movie can look good from a trailer. When you watch a movie as a whole everything can change.
I experienced this more then once.
Trust me, you can love the trailer of a movie, and hate the shit out of it when you watch it.
Well it truns out that Iron Man was great. It has a 86% on RT and 7.8/10 on IMDB.
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Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 29, 2008, 01:31:03 AM
^You don't know that. Maybe Terry Gilliam or Christopher Nolan will direct AVP3.
Chris Nolan....?
Dear me, you are deluded.
Batman Begins in the best comic book movie to date. He reboot a crappy series into a great new series. Just think what a AVP movie would be like if he direct one. He can make it dark just like the comics.
There is no maybe, Nolan will never direct an AVP movie.
You never know. They thought he would never direct a Batman 5 because he made oscar winning movies like Insomnia and Memento.
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Well it truns out that Iron Man was great. It has a 86% on RT and 7.8/10 on IMDB.
Ohh please you still listen to those retarded sites?
Besides that, Movies are always overrated in the first weeks. Not saying that Iron Man will be bad or anything, Paramount did it, and i have trust in them.
AvP-r had a 7.8 too when it was released.
Even though i hate RT but i trust them because there rating are from Crtics and other sorces
.
I already pre-bought my ticket. Thursday at 8 o' clock. 8)
Quote from: gameoverman on Apr 08, 2008, 03:33:42 AM
Paul Verhoeven.
He is working on Azazel at moment right now. So i doubt it.
Don't beat me bloody for this, but I would actually like to see Paul W.S Anderson giving it another try. If he's aware of his mistakes with the first movie, I think he can stay out of trouble with this one. He just need some good actors and a better design team (no huge predators).
I want a director that makes god dam sure the movie isn't too dark or too bright ::)
What about Alfonso Cuarón? I didn't like Children of men that much but i think he would be a good choice.
I still think Zak Snyder would do a great job, im not doubting your choices but I think he has the potential to make the avp series what it should be.
i too would like zack snyder. 300 and dawn of the dead were very good movies.
len wisemen (underworld, underworld: evolution, live free or die hard) is also a good choice.
Another director that I can think of is the Matrix movie directors, Micheal Bay, Sam Raimi, and Steven Spielberg.
I'm not sure about Sam Raimi because a lot of people hated Spider-man 3 (Even though i enjoy it).
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 01, 2008, 12:22:06 AM
I'm not sure about Sam Raimi because a lot of people hated Spider-man 3 (Even though i enjoy it).
His stylized visual sense for the Spiderman movies won't work for an Alien/Predator film, and neither would the campy gore for the Evil Dead movies. Bad choice.
I thought Spider Man 3 was a little bad because Venom only appear at the end of the film but Sam Raimi can still pull it off and improve the AVP franchise by a lot.
raimi originally didnt want venom in the movie but was pressured to include him because of the studio.
If venom waesn't on that film only in Spidey 4 the third could have being a good movie. :)
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 01, 2008, 12:31:11 AM
If venom waesn't on that film only in Spidey 4 the third could have being a good movie. :)
To me it was Sandman that really messed the movie up, if venom was the main villian it would've been a lot better and it also would've set us up for the 4th film when they introduce carnage.
I thought Sandman was great.
He wasn't horrible, it was just that they had too many villians and Sandman was one of those villians that they didn't need just yet.
Including the New Goblin as well.
My list for directors
Stephen Hopkins (He did said something about the AVP series on the Predator 2 DVD)
Zack Snyder (300, Dawn of the Dead)
Alfonso Cuarón (Chiden of Men, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban)
Christopher Nolan (Batman Begins, Memento)
Terry Gilliam (12 Monkeys, Brazil)
Neil Marshall (The Descent, Doomsday)
Jonathan Demme (The Silence of the Lambs)
Len Wiseman (Live Free or Die Hard, Underworld)
Stephen Norrington (Blade, The Last Minute)
Peter Hyams (End of Days, 2010)
Darren Aronofsky (Pi, Requiem for a Dream)
Bryan Singer (X-Men, Superman Returns)
Clive Barker (Hellraiser, Gods and Monsters)
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 01, 2008, 01:13:12 AM
My list for directors
Stephen Hopkins (He did said something about the AVP series on the Predator 2 DVD)
Zack Snyder (300, Dawn of the Dead)
Alfonso Cuarón (Chiden of Men, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban)
Christopher Nolan (Batman Begins, Memento)
Terry Gilliam (12 Monkeys, Brazil)
Neil Marshall (The Descent, Doomsday)
Jonathan Demme (The Silence of the Lambs)
Len Wiseman (Live Free or Die Hard, Underworld)
Stephen Norrington (Blade, The Last Minute)
Peter Hyams (End of Days, 2010)
Darren Aronofsky (Pi, Requiem for a Dream)
Bryan Singer (X-Men, Superman Returns)
Clive Barker (Hellraiser, Gods and Monsters)
good list.
although neil marshall sucks imo.
Len Wiseman has a good choice for directing because he direct Live Free or Die Hard which was great and did well at the box office. If he makes it R rated and has a good story then i would want him to direct it.
I wouldn't vote for Hopkins...P2 was ok, but it wasn't as good as it should've been.
Neil Marshall would be great!!
Len Wiseman would be a good choice..
Guillermo del Toro I think might also do a good job as the director for AVP3
He too busy with The Hobbit at the moment. I doubt he will do it!
He would be my first choice for a AVP film. Blade 2 rocked, Hell Boy rocked, Mimic was pretty cool and Pans was very good too.
Del Toro would be one hell of a director to do AVP3. I'm Phantom and I approve Del Toro for AVP3 ;D
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 06, 2008, 07:50:00 PM
He too busy with The Hobbit at the moment. I doubt he will do it!
Oh Yeah I forgot....well that sucks
im hoping for a queen somehow gets lose on earth wich is what every one in every alien movie with a queen has feared. and then a big hive is somewhere and a black pach is on earth and some how fit the preds in there
I want me to direct it.
Quote from: billywask on May 06, 2008, 11:29:27 PM
im hoping for a queen somehow gets lose on earth wich is what every one in every alien movie with a queen has feared. and then a big hive is somewhere and a black pach is on earth and some how fit the preds in there
Much to learn have you young Skywalker ;D
...about a great many things.
*cough* bill paxton *cough*
Quote from: Richman678 on May 07, 2008, 12:42:14 AM
*cough* bill paxton *cough*
you want bill paxton for AVP3?
Didnt he do "Frailty"??
Yes he did. Which I thought was agood film.
Yeah I loved it, but I dont think this type of genre is for him though. By the way he did Frailty it seems like he's more of a suspense type person.
And why would we want suspense in an Alien or Predator flick?
Quote from: wolfboy22 on May 07, 2008, 01:02:25 AM
Yeah I loved it, but I dont think this type of genre is for him though. By the way he did Frailty it seems like he's more of a suspense type person.
Well the alien franchise had lots of suspense and I'd say Predator had a little too. I know what you're saying about him maybe not being right to direct, but if FOX are giving te job to any Tom, Dick and Harry why not Bill too.
Quote from: severen76 on May 07, 2008, 01:08:41 AM
Quote from: wolfboy22 on May 07, 2008, 01:02:25 AM
Yeah I loved it, but I dont think this type of genre is for him though. By the way he did Frailty it seems like he's more of a suspense type person.
Well the alien franchise had lots of suspense and I'd say Predator had a little too. I know what you're saying about him maybe not being right to direct, but if FOX are giving te job to any Tom, Dick and Harry why not Bill too.
True very true, I guess it takes someone thats been killed by both the predator and aliens so stir the AVP series in the right direction.
Quote from: PHANTOM on May 06, 2008, 07:51:11 PM
Del Toro would be one hell of a director to do AVP3.
He was ask to direct the first movie but he trun it down to work on Hellboy.
Quote from: SM on May 07, 2008, 01:06:44 AM
And why would we want suspense in an Alien or Predator flick?
I dont really understand what you are saying. do you mean why wouldnt we want suspense in an alien or predator flick??
I backing a NON-fan, with little experience.
might get lucky.
Quote from: highlandpred on May 07, 2008, 02:03:31 AM
I backing a NON-fan, with little experience.
might get lucky.
Michael Moore ;D
Quotedont really understand what you are saying. do you mean why wouldnt we want suspense in an alien or predator flick??
I was being sarcastic. You said Paxton did a good job with suspense in Frailty while saying he wouldn't be any good for an Alien/ Predator flick - which doesn't make much sense. One of AvP's failings was that it lacked suspense, and I'm guessing AvP:Poo did as well.
Quote from: SM on May 07, 2008, 02:14:28 AM
Quotedont really understand what you are saying. do you mean why wouldnt we want suspense in an alien or predator flick??
I was being sarcastic. You said Paxton did a good job with suspense in Frailty while saying he wouldn't be any good for an Alien/ Predator flick - which doesn't make much sense. One of AvP's failings was that it lacked suspense, and I'm guessing AvP:Poo did as well.
Oh ok. The Alien/Predator films did have a lot of suspense so I take back what i said.
I would love to have either James Cameron or Zack Snyder to direct AVP-3 or maybe Sam Raimi. but HELL NO for paul anderson to direct anymore alien, predator, or avp movies. I wish i was a film director and i would do the fans justice and bring them something cool and orginal.
Uwe Boll
Think about it: Paul Anderson -> Bros. Strause -> Uwe Boll
A natural progression. :P
How about Robert Zemekis?
Maybe but i can't see him doing a AVP movie.
Quote from: gameoverman on May 08, 2008, 02:44:21 AM
Uwe Boll
Think about it: Paul Anderson -> Bros. Strause -> Uwe Boll
A natural progression. :P
Oh come ON :P
whos Uwe Boll??
Quote from: gameoverman on May 08, 2008, 02:44:21 AM
Uwe Boll
Think about it: Paul Anderson -> Bros. Strause -> Uwe Boll
A natural progression. :P
Anderson vs Boll , which one killed more movie and video game franchise ? It's a battle to the death.
Quote from: wolfboy22 on May 08, 2008, 08:29:44 PM
whos Uwe Boll??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_boll
As soon as I saw "Alone in the Dark" all I can say is HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
House of dead is the worst B movies ever made. It bad and It's nearly Mystery Science Theater 3000 bad. The movie makes Resident Evil look like Dawn of the Dead.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 09, 2008, 12:39:35 AM
House of dead is the worst B movies ever made. It bad and It's nearly Mystery Science Theater 3000 bad. The movie makes Resident Evil look like Dawn of the Dead.
Damn ;D
Everything in House of Dead look fake and not scary. The House of Dead games are awesome but this movie was not. BloodRayne was just as bad as well.
Good thing I havent seen them then.
I still think Terry Gilliam (12 Monkeys) would be perfect a AVP movie.
I don't think this franchise needs added surrealism, personally.
What about Shayamalan (Sings) to direct AVP3?
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 09, 2008, 11:47:24 AM
What about Shayamalan (Sings) to direct AVP3?
It would never happen and his style is not suited for an AVP film.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 09, 2008, 11:47:24 AM
What about Shayamalan (Sings) to direct AVP3?
We'd be smack-dab in the middle of a fight scene, when something happens and it turns out we were actually on set as it happened :o
I think he can do a Alien 5 but i'm not sure about AVP3.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 09, 2008, 11:47:24 AM
What about Shayamalan (Sings) to direct AVP3?
Not sure if i'd want him to do it, but i would be curious to see how it would turn out if he were to direct it.
He'd have a major supporting roll and feature an incredibly asinine twist at the end.
Quote from: SiL on May 09, 2008, 10:38:11 PM
He'd have a major supporting roll and feature an incredibly asinine twist at the end.
What he said.
An avp movie should never have a twist NEVER. This aint Saw :D
So i like a good twist. Just depends on what kind of a twist. I dont think i'd ever want Shyamalan to direct and avp movie, however, if by some odd chance he did. I would most definetly see it cause i'm curious as to how it'd turn out.
Quote from: Its Game Time on May 10, 2008, 03:16:59 AM
So i like a good twist. Just depends on what kind of a twist. I dont think i'd ever want Shyamalan to direct and avp movie, however, if by some odd chance he did. I would most definetly see it cause i'm curious as to how it'd turn out.
Shyamalan direct an avp movie??? that will never EVER happen
Quote from: wolfboy22 on May 10, 2008, 03:26:25 AM
Quote from: Its Game Time on May 10, 2008, 03:16:59 AM
So i like a good twist. Just depends on what kind of a twist. I dont think i'd ever want Shyamalan to direct and avp movie, however, if by some odd chance he did. I would most definetly see it cause i'm curious as to how it'd turn out.
Shyamalan direct an avp movie??? that will never EVER happen
Never said it will. Just said if there was an odd chance that he did, i would see it.
He makes some pretty scary stuff, i think he can do a AVP or Alien 5 movie.
I dont think this is his type of genre.
I'd already posted about having shyamalan as director... for sure it'd be awesome. lotsa mystery plot but no aliens or Pred in sight ;D
NONE of the directors mentioned would touch this with a barge pole,
They will just get a hack to pour out more drivel and break are hearts again,face it we will never see another decent Alien/pred film. ::)
im off to watch the originals now, ;)
What about the dirctors from Old Country for Old men? I think they we're great.
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 11, 2008, 02:41:27 PM
What about the dirctors from Old Country for Old men? I think they we're great.
They do Drama and Comdies not Action or Horor.
They did a lot action in No Country for old men film.
you may have heard these but, ridley scott, james cameron or the direction of predator
Sure as hell not Paul W.S. Anderson >:( .
I would either like to see the brothers strausse or James Cameron (or Ridely Scott) with John McTirenan (or Stephen Hopkins), have an Alien director with a Predator director and it'll probably be an even better movie.
It's unfortunate that JC would never touch an AvP film...he could really make it good.
We just need someone talented, and to make it more like an Alien(Long, suspenseful, futuristic) film, if anything.
That way, the Alien doesn't get dumbed down, and the Predator gets upgraded to the quality of the Alien films. So then it doesn't have to be the other way around, with the Alien getting cheapened to a zombie.
Paul Verhoven
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 12, 2008, 04:22:50 AM
We just need someone talented, and to make it more like an Alien(Long, suspenseful, futuristic) film, if anything.
That way, the Alien doesn't get dumbed down, and the Predator gets upgraded to the quality of the Alien films. So then it doesn't have to be the other way around, with the Alien getting cheapened to a zombie.
The Predator gets upgraded, what?
Quoteand the Predator gets upgraded to the quality of the Alien films
If anything, the predator get
downgraded to the quality of the alien films.
One point that i love so much about the predator movies is that they are not like the
alien movies, which lacked action and intensitiy from the beginning.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 12, 2008, 04:13:51 PM
Quoteand the Predator gets upgraded to the quality of the Alien films
If anything, the predator get downgraded to the quality of the alien films.
One point that i love so much about the predator movies is that they are not like the alien movies, which lacked action and intensitiy from the beginning.
Alien was intensity, Aliens was action. They're two different types of movies. Predator is more about action.
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 12, 2008, 04:43:43 AM
Paul Verhoven
Paul Verhoeven, actually, and I think it's very realistic choice.
QuotePredator is more about action.
Predator has both.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 12, 2008, 04:13:51 PM
which lacked action and intensitiy from the beginning.
...cos it's a f**king
horror franchise, maybe?
Jesus Christ, the retardation in this place. You could cut it with a knife.
^ What SiL said.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 12, 2008, 04:13:51 PM
Quoteand the Predator gets upgraded to the quality of the Alien films
If anything, the predator get downgraded to the quality of the alien films.
One point that i love so much about the predator movies is that they are not like the alien movies, which lacked action and intensitiy from the beginning.
No. I meant that the Predators get upgraded as in being in a quality film such as an Alien film. Oscar winning films.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 12, 2008, 04:28:42 PM
QuotePredator is more about action.
Predator has both.
Predator didn't have even half the intensity
Alien did, I don't what makes you think otherwise. Predator made me go :o WHOA. Alien made me go AAHH!!
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 13, 2008, 12:27:50 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 12, 2008, 04:28:42 PM
QuotePredator is more about action.
Predator has both.
Predator didn't have even half the intensity Alien did, I don't what makes you think otherwise. Predator made me go :o WHOA. Alien made me go AAHH!!
AVP and AVPR made me go NOOOOOOOOOO :D
Another director I want for the next AVP film is Matt Reeves and Francis Lawrence.
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 11:26:43 AM
Another director I want for the next AVP film is Matt Reeves and Francis Lawrence.
Hideo Kojima, think of what kind of AVP movie or game that could be :o
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 12, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 12, 2008, 04:13:51 PM
Quoteand the Predator gets upgraded to the quality of the Alien films
If anything, the predator get downgraded to the quality of the alien films.
One point that i love so much about the predator movies is that they are not like the alien movies, which lacked action and intensitiy from the beginning.
No. I meant that the Predators get upgraded as in being in a quality film such as an Alien film. Oscar winning films.
I understood your post, and i think you understood mine. I meant exactly what i said.
I´ll f**k the oscar winning shit. Get the alien in a movie like Predator and you have the perfect film without a drama.
Quote...cos it's a f**king horror franchise, maybe?
Does it mean i´ll have to like it then?. Nope.
QuotePredator didn't have even half the intensity Alien did,
Thats true, it didnt got half the intensitiy, it got twice as much.
QuotePredator made me go Shocked WHOA. Alien made me go AAHH!!
Thats what i´m talking about. When i saw the skinned bodies or any kill in Predator i made "whoaaa".
Alien was just playing and playing and suddenly it was over and i thought good movie, but nothing more. Same with Aliens.
Quote from: KARHAN on May 14, 2008, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 11:26:43 AM
Another director I want for the next AVP film is Matt Reeves and Francis Lawrence.
Hideo Kojima, think of what kind of AVP movie or game that could be :o
Probably something amazing ;D
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2008, 11:33:44 AM
I´ll f**k the oscar winning shit. Get the alien in a movie like Predator and you have the perfect film without a drama.
No, you have some half-assed video game.
Quote from: gameoverman on May 14, 2008, 11:45:25 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2008, 11:33:44 AM
I´ll f**k the oscar winning shit. Get the alien in a movie like Predator and you have the perfect film without a drama.
No, you have some half-assed video game.
I agree with gameover.
Quote from: gameoverman on May 14, 2008, 11:45:25 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2008, 11:33:44 AM
I´ll f**k the oscar winning shit. Get the alien in a movie like Predator and you have the perfect film without a drama.
No, you have some half-assed video game.
So Predator is a half assed videogame?
Its people like you why the alien films are horribly overrated.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2008, 11:48:10 AM
Quote from: gameoverman on May 14, 2008, 11:45:25 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2008, 11:33:44 AM
I´ll f**k the oscar winning shit. Get the alien in a movie like Predator and you have the perfect film without a drama.
No, you have some half-assed video game.
So Predator is a half assed videogame?
Its people like you why the alien films are horribly overrated.
Gosh a lot arguiment between aliens and Predator fans :( the only way to have a good AVP film is the one that knows what their doing and the ones that wins a lot of oscars that's it no more arguing.
Quotedoing and the ones that wins a lot of oscars.
Titanic won 11 oscars, better then Aliens or Predator? Hell no!!
Oscars are saying shit, thats a fact.
And how many money that Titanic earn in worldwide Box office Johnny?
Quote from: KARHAN on May 14, 2008, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 11:26:43 AM
Another director I want for the next AVP film is Matt Reeves and Francis Lawrence.
Hideo Kojima, think of what kind of AVP movie or game that could be :o
I can't see him doing a AVP movie. It not his cup of tea (He did added some Predator references in Metal Gear Solid 3 though).
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 11:55:25 AM
And how many that Titanic earn in worldwide Box office Johnny?
I dont know the exact number, but it was one of the most successful films in history when it comes to box office.
Still doesnt say a thing.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2008, 11:57:53 AM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 11:55:25 AM
And how many that Titanic earn in worldwide Box office Johnny?
I dont know the exact number, but it was one of the most successful films in history when it comes to box office.
Still doesnt say a thing.
Over a billion dollars dude and it was James Cameron that directed it. If you want a director than you need a good writer that also know what he or her doing.
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 11:59:56 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2008, 11:57:53 AM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 11:55:25 AM
And how many that Titanic earn in worldwide Box office Johnny?
I dont know the exact number, but it was one of the most successful films in history when it comes to box office.
Still doesnt say a thing.
Over a billion dollars dude and it was James Cameron that directed it. If you want a director than you need a good writer that also know what he or her doing.
Its not about that i think that cameron is a bad director or anything.
I meant that oscar winning films can be a shitty as direct to video films.
Oscars or prices doesnt mean shit.
Titanic won 11 oscars, it is still average.
Movies that win a lot of oscar will be remember forever and meaning that more people will watch it when the next sequal or prequal comes out for it.
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 12:08:10 PM
Movies that win a lot of oscar will be remember forever and meaning that more people will watch it when the next sequal or prequal comes out for it.
Sorry but thats BS.
There are really so much movies that won oscars that are
already forgotten.
Oscars means good movies = shit.
Oscar are the most important part for making a film dude.
QuoteIf AVP was nominated for three or four oscar will you still watch it?
Of course i would still watch it.
But if i buy a dvd and i read "Won 5 oscars" i dont go all crazy about it. It can be as bad as AvP even with 5 oscars you know what i mean?
I dont have anything against oscars or anything, but when i hear people say "well, it won oscars" its just stupid.
Oscars dont say nothing.
What about Oliver Stone?
Oscar say everything Johnny when I watch No country for Old Men it was great because it won a lot of oscar think about it.
QuoteOscar say everything Johnny
Sry but with this line there is no need to talk to you anymore.
Following your sence, Titanic is the best movie ever, why? Because oscars are saying
everything.
Ohh man... :'(
Gosh John sorry :( the most important part for having a good AVP film is to try winning an oscar and to think the BS doesn't want that to happen and that's why you have horrible AVP movies.
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 12:24:53 PM
Oscar say everything Johnny when I watch No country for Old Men it was great because it won a lot of oscar think about it.
I don't think it was great because it won oscars.
Quote from: severen76 on May 14, 2008, 08:40:43 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 12:24:53 PM
Oscar say everything Johnny when I watch No country for Old Men it was great because it won a lot of oscar think about it.
I don't think it was great because it won oscars.
Maybe this movie waesn't your type.
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: severen76 on May 14, 2008, 08:40:43 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 12:24:53 PM
Oscar say everything Johnny when I watch No country for Old Men it was great because it won a lot of oscar think about it.
I don't think it was great because it won oscars.
Maybe this movie waesn't your type.
I really like the film. But not because it won oscars. ;)
Quote from: severen76 on May 14, 2008, 09:19:55 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: severen76 on May 14, 2008, 08:40:43 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 12:24:53 PM
Oscar say everything Johnny when I watch No country for Old Men it was great because it won a lot of oscar think about it.
I don't think it was great because it won oscars.
Maybe this movie waesn't your type.
I really like the film. But not because it won oscars. ;)
Same thing to me too but the only way I knew it was a great film is when I heard it won a lot of oscars.
I don't think anyone ever set out making these movies trying to win awards. You can hardly blame the Bros for not doing so.
Quote from: SiL on May 14, 2008, 09:32:32 PM
I don't think anyone ever set out making these movies trying to win awards. You can hardly blame the Bros for not doing so.
Why not? Oh I know why because they only care about the money. >:(
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 09:36:07 PM
Why not? Oh I know why because they only care about the money. >:(
Uh, no. Because films rarely go out of their way to try and win awards. In fact films that do that tend not to because the people making them are too busy considering what the Academies will like, and not enough about what's going to make the film good.
Quote from: SiL on May 14, 2008, 09:46:54 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 09:36:07 PM
Why not? Oh I know why because they only care about the money. >:(
Uh, no. Because films rarely go out of their way to try and win awards. In fact films that do that tend not to because the people making them are too busy considering what the Academies will like, and not enough about what's going to make the film good.
Depends if their not that busy.
Quote from: SiL on May 14, 2008, 09:46:54 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 14, 2008, 09:36:07 PM
Why not? Oh I know why because they only care about the money. >:(
Uh, no. Because films rarely go out of their way to try and win awards. In fact films that do that tend not to because the people making them are too busy considering what the Academies will like, and not enough about what's going to make the film good.
Well, the film doesn't flop though. People may still like it. Titanic is a good example; it had countless positive reviews, won several Oscars, and the majority of people liked it.
Just because it won a oscar or got nominated that does not mean it not a good movie. Norbit was nominated and it was crap.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 14, 2008, 11:50:56 PM
Just because it won a oscar or got nominated that does not mean it not a good movie. Norbit was nominated and it was crap.
NORBIT was nominated for an Oscar??
Yes it was.
Which? This seems pretty incredible.
Dumbest Movie of the Year Award :D
It got nommed for Makeup.
La Vie En Rose won.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 14, 2008, 11:50:56 PM
Just because it won a oscar or got nominated that does not mean it not a good movie. Norbit was nominated and it was crap.
Yes if does but depends what type of movie you like.
Michael Davis (Monster Man, Shoot 'Em Up)
I think he'd be a great choice. He definitely knows his craft. I love his movies.
John Woo ;D
Quote from: Scree on May 17, 2008, 06:38:54 PM
Michael Davis (Monster Man, Shoot 'Em Up)
I think he'd be a great choice. He definitely knows his craft. I love his movies.
We had the likes of Ridley Scott, David Fincher, and James Cameron involved in this series, and you want to stoop down to
that guy?
Raise the bar.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 17, 2008, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: Scree on May 17, 2008, 06:38:54 PM
Michael Davis (Monster Man, Shoot 'Em Up)
I think he'd be a great choice. He definitely knows his craft. I love his movies.
We had the likes of Ridley Scott, David Fincher, and James Cameron involved in this series, and you want to stoop down to that guy? Raise the bar.
By not going for anyone who's not as good as Scott, Cameron or Fincher? I don't think that's the right attitude. Sure those guys are great filmmakers but we should not make gods out of them.
They ARE Gods. Just take a look at their resumes, they are well-accomplished. I'd give my left nut to meet one of them.
I still think Clive Baker would be perfect a AVP movie?
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 17, 2008, 09:35:42 PM
They ARE Gods.
That's were I stopped reading any further. 'Nuff said!
No. I'd rather have Paul Anderson then Clive. I love Hellraiser, but it's so far from what Alien and Predator are supposed to be it actually
is funny.
He doesn't have a vast majority of different films in his resume. None of his films hold a candle to Scott, Fincher, or Cameron's work. Hardly influential to the masses.
Quote from: Scree on May 17, 2008, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 17, 2008, 09:35:42 PM
They ARE Gods.
That's were I stopped reading any further. 'Nuff said!
I was joking. Christ.
But you're not implying you don't like their work, right?
I think Cliver Baker can make a Alien scary again. If you read his books he makes some scary and evil stuff.
Quote from: Scree on May 17, 2008, 06:38:54 PM
Michael Davis (Monster Man, Shoot 'Em Up)
I think he'd be a great choice. He definitely knows his craft. I love his movies.
I woun't mind him as a director. Shoot Em Up was ok but it was better then the AVP movies.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 17, 2008, 09:46:39 PM
I was joking. Christ.
But you're not implying you don't like their work, right?
No, I like their work very much. Always did. But still each of them made at least one or more movies that really didn't interest or impress me much. That's all.
I never saw shoot em' up. I heard it was terrible. ::)
Quote from: Lord-Naraku on May 21, 2008, 03:22:49 AM
I never saw shoot em' up. I heard it was terrible. ::)
It was dude, the action was ok but the movie was just too fake and unrealistic.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 17, 2008, 10:09:50 PM
I think Cliver Baker can make a Alien scary again. If you read his books he makes some scary and evil stuff.
I'd be down for him doing Alien 5.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 21, 2008, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 17, 2008, 10:09:50 PM
I think Cliver Baker can make a Alien scary again. If you read his books he makes some scary and evil stuff.
I'd be down for him doing Alien 5.
I think he can do a evil, insane and intense Predator as well. Pinhead was already evil enough!
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 21, 2008, 04:45:26 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 21, 2008, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 17, 2008, 10:09:50 PM
I think Cliver Baker can make a Alien scary again. If you read his books he makes some scary and evil stuff.
I'd be down for him doing Alien 5.
I think he can do a evil, insane and intense Predator as well. Pinhead was already evil enough!
Hm...I don't see CB doing a Predator movie. Predator is about action, not horror.
Hmm, don't really know of many directors. All I want is someone with experience in horror, creating suspence, action and a viseral visual style. Not as easy as it sounds.
I'd be soo happy if Ang Lee somehow got his hands on AVP, other than Hulk, His films are great(esp Brokeback :), lots of character development and often times a cute love story is tossed in, but i dont think that would fit in well with a macho macho manly science fiction film.
Ang Lee is a very good director and he would do a good AVP movie.
I think the worst directors you could have choosen for a AVP film would either be Paul Anderson, Uwe Boll or.......a first time director.
Any director that has made atleast one solid good film would be perfect to direct AVP.
Another director I want for the next AVP film is Tim Burton.
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 25, 2008, 11:46:02 PM
Another director I want for the next AVP film is Tim Burton.
Eww. Kill it. Kill it with fire!
Quote from: severen76 on May 25, 2008, 11:48:47 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 25, 2008, 11:46:02 PM
Another director I want for the next AVP film is Tim Burton.
Eww. Kill it. Kill it with fire!
You don't like Tim Burton?
I just think he's a very boring director who never trys anything new.
Quote from: severen76 on May 25, 2008, 11:59:36 PM
I just think he's a very boring director who never trys anything new.
His not boring but I guess everybody has their different opinions.
But he's made the same film for about 10 years. same actors same colour grading same score, well very nearly the same score thanks to Danny Elfman.
Quote from: severen76 on May 26, 2008, 12:09:04 AM
But he's made the same film for about 10 years. same actors same colour grading same score, well very nearly the same score thanks to Danny Elfman.
It doesn't matter he still a great director no matter what.
And totally unsuited to the Alien or Predator franchises.
Quote from: SiL on May 26, 2008, 12:17:14 AM
And totally unsuited to the Alien or Predator franchises.
Well whatever dude.
The other director I want to direct the next AVP film is Steven Spielberg.
Never going to happen.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on May 26, 2008, 12:26:06 AM
Never going to happen.
(Sign) I'm just saying.
What about....eh I give up :(
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 25, 2008, 11:46:02 PM
Another director I want for the next AVP film is Tim Burton.
Tim Burton is more focused on drama I find than action. I doubt he could make AvP work.
What about from Bad Boys?
Quote from: severen76 on May 26, 2008, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on May 26, 2008, 01:26:59 PM
What about from Bad Boys?
You mean Micheal Bay?
:-X
Yeah him (Hate myself for not knowing the director of Bad Boy).
Tim Burton made two greatest batman film`s and Sleepy Hollow which have decend amount of action as well. Btw. AvP should be horror not action movie.
Quote from: Master on May 26, 2008, 02:03:33 PM
Tim Burton made two greatest batman film`s and Sleepy Hollow which have decend amount of action as well. Btw. AvP should be horror not action movie.
AvP kinda
needs action since it's a vs. movie. Thus that's where the focus is.
Timur Bekmambetov? (Nightwatch, Wanted)
Renny Harlin would be great!
Has Tim Burton even done an R rated movie yet??
Sleepy Hollow was R according to IMDB
What if george lucas directs Avp3?
Quote from: Storyteller on Jun 05, 2008, 07:58:51 PM
What if george lucas directs Avp3?
I think we'd sooner get James Cameron :P
Quote from: Storyteller on Jun 05, 2008, 07:58:51 PM
What if george lucas directs Avp3?
It would be completely animation :D
Quote from: Dachande on Jun 05, 2008, 07:56:58 PM
Sleepy Hollow was R according to IMDB
Yup I guess thats one but it wasnt all that violent though.
Quote from: wolfboy22 on Jun 05, 2008, 08:11:59 PM
Quote from: Dachande on Jun 05, 2008, 07:56:58 PM
Sleepy Hollow was R according to IMDB
Yup I guess thats one but it wasnt all that violent though.
No it was R rated. I remember when it came out. I dont think it was violent enough either but other people felt different. I can only guess the amount of heads and headless bodies caused the R rating. I believe a child was killed in the movie too. Not to mention the body being cut in half. I remember some of the autopsy scene were kind of gross too.
I loved sleepy hollow. Tim Burton is very artistic in that dark kind of way. Theres very few movies he has made that were not good. I believe that Batman Returns would be one partly because of the style gap between the first one and the 2nd one. Where the first one had the city realistic, while the 2nd one had crazy gothic statues all over the place. For what its worth though he pulled the Penguin off brilliantly for that movie!
I don't like Tim Burton that much. The first two Batman movies, Nightmare before X-Mass, Big Fish and Sleepy hollow are the only movie i like from him.
He has some pretty good films but I dont think hes right for AVP3 though.
I hope Micheal Bay does not direct a AVP movie.
It would just be a movie about a lot of shit getting blown up lol
It would be in New York City and the President would send Bruce Wills to space to destory the Alien Homeworld :P :D. Then a gaint transforming Predator arrive at the earth and there will be a car sceen Shia LaBeouf where drives his crap off a bridge and onto a ship to rescue Sean Connery :P!
Or maybe the movie would star two BAD BOYS fighting against aliens and predators while still making us laugh ;D.
Quote from: wolfboy22 on Jun 05, 2008, 08:10:46 PM
Quote from: Storyteller on Jun 05, 2008, 07:58:51 PM
What if george lucas directs Avp3?
It would be completely animation :D
That isn't such a bad thing, considering more $$ could be spent on fight scenes.
I personally like movies in which they use as little animation as possible, it just makes it look more real.
George Lucas is ok, Star Wars may be great but his systel does not work with AVP.
He'd Probably Make into six movies, Where the aliens have diplomacy and junk like that...
Quote from: Storyteller on Jun 06, 2008, 02:53:04 PM
He'd Probably Make into six movies, Where the aliens have diplomacy and junk like that...
Hive politics :D...there'll be a coup to undermine the ever-tyrannical Queen!
What about Tom Green :P
Be good to hear some news on AVP 3 but in away its good we havent and that there not rushing into it and maybe thinking more about how to make it much better.
What about Mimi Leder (Deep Impact, ER) to direct AVP3? Deep Impact was good (I remember likeing it on VHS) and she did a lot good TV shows.
for the people in the previous page, Michael Bay it's not that bad. besides, I would like to see his vision of AVP, but as in a fan film only.
If AvP:3 should really happen I would like Len Wiseman to direct it. Die Hard 4.0 was so gerat.
I belive that Wiseman has everything AvP:3 would need.
John Mc Tiernan would although be a good choice.
Die Hard 4 was a great movie and it got great reviews. I think Len Wiseman would be great to direct the next movie.
No way man Len Wisemen has the same level of talent that Paul ws anderson has.
Quote from: Da-Wolf on Jun 06, 2008, 08:36:16 PM
for the people in the previous page, Michael Bay it's not that bad. besides, I would like to see his vision of AVP, but as in a fan film only.
Michael Bay would make a great AVP film, way better than Paul Worhtless Shit Anderson could do and BS.
Michael Bay did The Rock and Transformers, he already has my vote for an R rated AVP film. I could already see it, the soliders would be just like the Navy SEALs and Marines you saw in The Rock and they would all be awesome characters, it would be a 2 hour sci-fi adrenaline rush with Predators and Aliens kicking the living shit out of each other in the most hardcore spectacular way ever, with some seriously awesome special effects.
The Rock, Transformers, The Island and Bad Boys 1&2 were all solid action films.
I HATE Michael Bay with a passion. Never for an AVP movie! He'd be worse than Anderson. He'd blow everything up, literally.
I'm not saying he would be my first pick for a director, I'm just saying that if he did decide to do a AVP film I know it would be better than anything Paul could do or the BS. Come on, The Rock and Transformers were both awesome!
Paul did freakin Resident Evil and Solider.....wow those were two super retarded films lol. I could have directed a better action film than those two in my basement lol.
Michael bay is underrated, altought I like making fun of his movies (everything blows up!) but not seriously.
AVP is now a b-movie franchise and no director like Micheal Bay will touch it. The only directors who will do it now are fanboys and directing newbies. :-\ :-X
he would raise and say "I will bring this franchise from the dark corners in wich is lost and bring it back to a new era, not of ancient glory but of present kickassity"
Quote from: gameoverman on Jun 06, 2008, 10:56:51 PM
directing newbies.
Not neccesarily a bad thing. Most of the directors of the original alien films were pretty new to film making. But I do doubt directors with that much talent would want to have their names attached to an AvP film.
Quote from: severen76 on Jun 07, 2008, 12:28:43 AM
Quote from: gameoverman on Jun 06, 2008, 10:56:51 PM
directing newbies.
Not neccesarily a bad thing. Most of the directors of the original alien films were pretty new to film making. But I do doubt directors with that much talent would want to have their names attached to an AvP film.
Only David Fincher. Scott proved himself with The Duellists, Cameron - The Terminator, Jeunet - City of Lost Children.
Quote from: gameoverman on Jun 07, 2008, 12:47:38 AM
Quote from: severen76 on Jun 07, 2008, 12:28:43 AM
Quote from: gameoverman on Jun 06, 2008, 10:56:51 PM
directing newbies.
Not neccesarily a bad thing. Most of the directors of the original alien films were pretty new to film making. But I do doubt directors with that much talent would want to have their names attached to an AvP film.
Only David Fincher. Scott proved himself with The Duellists, Cameron - The Terminator, Jeunet - City of Lost Children.
The excitement people must've had when they read Cameron, who directed the sci-fi masterpiece Terminator, would direct a sequel to Alien, another sci-fi masterpiece.
The Terminator had only been released in America when Cameron started on Aliens. General reaction was more along the lines of "Who?"
Quote from: SiL on Jun 07, 2008, 02:37:58 AM
The Terminator had only been released in America when Cameron started on Aliens. General reaction was more along the lines of "Who?"
He must have impressed someone for some exec to say: "Do you want to do Alien 2?".
Yeees, but by the same token, so must the Bros. And I didn't see anyone saying "Wow, these guys are doing it! Sweet!"
Quote from: SiL on Jun 07, 2008, 03:00:21 AM
Yeees, but by the same token, so must the Bros. And I didn't see anyone saying "Wow, these guys are doing it! Sweet!"
*Fox exec walks into a room full of people*
Fox exec: "Who likes the Alien and Predator movies?"
Colin: "Oh! Oh! Me! Me and my brother Greg LOVE them!"
Fox exec: "Have you ever recorded a family Christmas party?"
Colin: "Hell yeah!"
Fox exec: "You're hired....*whispers to self* well that saved a few million bucks*."
Quote from: PHANTOM on Jun 06, 2008, 10:22:12 PM
Quote from: Da-Wolf on Jun 06, 2008, 08:36:16 PM
for the people in the previous page, Michael Bay it's not that bad. besides, I would like to see his vision of AVP, but as in a fan film only.
The Rock, Transformers, The Island and Bad Boys 1&2 were all solid action films.
What about Armageddon? I think Pearl is his worst movie and everything else he made was ok. He not a bad director but most of his movies are the same and he trys to makes his movies epic as possible.
Quote from: gameoverman on Jun 06, 2008, 10:56:51 PM
AVP is now a b-movie franchise and no director like Micheal Bay will touch it. The only directors who will do it now are fanboys and directing newbies. :-\ :-X
Yeah, a sad fact I'm afraid. There are directors out there that were meant to direct certain films. James Cameron was meant to direct Terminator and Aliens, The Wachowski Brothers were meant to direct The Matrix. The Strause Brothers were meant to direct mtv music videos and short silent films, that is where their talents truely shine. It was not their destiny to make a film with Aliens and Predators in it, that future didn't belong to them, they were the wrong talents for this type of film.
Joel Schumacher for exmaple was not meant to direct any of the Batman films, it was not his destiny, that future belongs to Christopher Nolan. AVP-R didn't suck because a lack of budget, it was a lack of experience and also the harsh cold reality that the bros refuse to face is that.....anything has to do with Aliens and Predators is not for you! Your talents belong some place else! Your talent is in silent films and music videos.
Quote from: gameoverman on Jun 06, 2008, 10:56:51 PM
AVP is now a b-movie franchise and no director like Micheal Bay will touch it. The only directors who will do it now are fanboys and directing newbies. :-\ :-X
Well, we can always hope.
Hope was lost the moment Fox said no to a James Cameron Ridley Scott Alien 5. You have to be partly insane to say no to that.
Because only an insane person could allow Paul Worthless Shit Anderson to direct such a film like AVP and also allow two noobies that only have directed two silent films and a hand full of music videos.
Maybe......the AVP franchise is cursed with something, kind of like the poltergeist franchise, thats the only logical answer I can come up with :-\
QuoteOnly David Fincher. Scott proved himself with The Duellists, Cameron - The Terminator, Jeunet - City of Lost Children.
JPJ also did Delicatessen. Anderson had five features under his belt and as of AvP had churned out the worst film of either series.
Unfortunately, the "The more experienced, the worse the movie they make" theory went out the window with the Bros :(
Yup.
Lets face it were never gonna get a director of Cameron or Ridley Scott calliber to direct it. Fox needs to hire a decent director and a good writer and maybe they might actually get it right on a third shot.
We need Clive Barker for AVP3!
He would never touch AvP.
Who's clive barker?????
He is a movie director and a english author. He best know for Hellraiser, The Damnation Game and The Abarat Quintet series. He makes a lot of good horror books and some good movies.
Quote from: Storyteller on Jun 09, 2008, 04:22:52 PM
Who's clive barker?????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Barker
All in favor say Nah.........................NAH
Goddamn, NO Clive Barker. What's wrong with you and your obsession with him? We need established directors. No way in hell is he in the same arena as Scott, Cameron, Fincher, Jeunet, or McTiernan. Hell, even Anderson. Hellraiser was like his only film that went to theaters.
Christopher Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson, those kinda guys.
Let gets Danny Boyle ;D
You mean the one that directed 28DL???
We Need Cameron, Ridley, or Steven Spielburg....or at least H.R. Giger back.............Please?
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jun 10, 2008, 12:26:13 AM
Goddamn, NO Clive Barker. What's wrong with you and your obsession with him?
Have you read his books? He knows how to make a great horror movies. His movie other then Hellraiser went to theaters, like Nightbreed and Candyman (Anyone remember this movie?). And the upcoming Midnight Meat Train looks great.
QuoteWe need established directors. No way in hell is he in the same arena as Scott, Cameron, Fincher, Jeunet, or McTiernan. Hell, even Anderson. Hellraiser was like his only film that went to theaters.Quote
Apart from Lord of Illusions and Nightbreed.
So with 3 features that technically makes him more 'established' than Scott, Cameron, Fincher, JPJ and McTiernan before they took on their respective instalments.
Mind you, he writes better than he directs.
Quote from: PHANTOM on Jun 10, 2008, 12:32:17 AM
Let gets Danny Boyle ;D
an excellent choice, sunshine was the best scifi film i've seen in years. i believe that danny boyle was considered as a director for A:R also so at least fox has considered him in the past for directing an alien flick.
^A:R? That was the worst flick. They considered him for the worst alien flick.....hmmmmm...what does that tell us?
Quote from: Storyteller on Jun 10, 2008, 02:34:34 PM
^A:R? That was the worst flick. They considered him for the worst alien flick.....hmmmmm...what does that tell us?
He might've done it differently.
He definately would have done it differently. He is a very visual director, and all the action wouldn't be so hard to see in the shadows. He can also handle dialogue very well, just watch trainspotting. Between his accomplishments at horror, scifi and drama I'de say he would have been a very good choice.
I say bring back Paul Anderson..just kidding. :D
Quote from: nukem11 on Jun 10, 2008, 06:05:47 PM
I say bring back Paul Anderson..just kidding. :D
Yeah, maybe as the first kill. ;)
Bruce Campbell!!!!... ;D :P 8)
No one, just make Alien 5. (It'll never happen :'()
Alien 5 will never happen!
If your insane enough to turn down James Cameron and Ridley Scott to allow Paul Worthless Shit Anderson to direct AVP....all hope is lost. Our best bet is to show the bros the the door and let someone else take a crack at AVP3.
Just because David Fincher directed Alien 3 and did a great job with it doesn't mean every f**king mtv wannabe film-maker is going to succeed or be like him in the end ::)
The Bros got their 30-40mil to direct AVP-R, they tried, they failed, good bye, case closed.
Let someone else give AVP3 a try. Hmmmm...
I just saw the movie The Hunted, is William Friedkin busy ;D
James Cameran wouldn't make an AVP didn't he say that those movies ruined the Alien franchise himself?
Yes. And then apparently he said, along with Ridley Scott, he liked AvP.
QUINT: I remember before Paul W.S. Anderson did ALIEN VS PREDATOR it came out that you kind of made an offer to do another ALIEN film with Ridley Scott...
JAMES CAMERON: Yeah. Ridley and I talked about doing another ALIEN film and I said to 20th Century Fox that I would develop a 5th ALIEN film. I started working on a story, I was working with another writer and Fox came back to me and said, "We've got this really good script for ALIEN VS PREDATOR and I got pretty upset. I said, "You do that you're going to kill the validity of the franchise in my mind." Because to me, that was FRANKENSTEIN MEETS WEREWOLF. It was Universal just taking their assets and starting to play them off against each other.
QUINT: Milking it, totally.
JAMES CAMERON: Milking it. So, I stopped work. Then I saw ALIEN VS PREDATOR and it was actually pretty good. (laughs) I think of the 5 ALIEN films, I'd rate it 3rd.
Source: http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22405
What did Scott and Cameron think of AVP R?
I doubt they care about AVPR.
Yeah, I would be surprised if they had seen it at all.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 13, 2008, 12:20:14 AM
JAMES CAMERON: Milking it. So, I stopped work. Then I saw ALIEN VS PREDATOR and it was actually pretty good. (laughs) I think of the 5 ALIEN films, I'd rate it 3rd.
There you go, the master said so himself. ;) Bring back Paul Anderson to do AVP 3 - he's the only director who'll give us a decent movie.
The only reason fans don't like him is because of retarded reasons like the teamup, one alien killing two predators, etc. Mostly, it's hardcore predator fanboys that hate him. They'd rather be spoonfed shit just so they can see their beloved predator win.
Well I'm a fan of both Aliens and Predators and the portrayal of the Predators in AVP was good, as was the portrayal of the Aliens.
Now you have a choice - Paul Anderson, Strause Bros, Uwe Boll or some hack we never heard of who will make it as generic and uninteresting as possible. That's really what it comes down to, because no decent director in their right mind will touch AVP3.
Thats not true, I'm sure there are a lot of young film makers jumping at the bit to prove themselves by putting the series on the right track.
Quote from: Undeadite on Jun 13, 2008, 03:26:21 AM
Thats not true, I'm sure there are a lot of young film makers jumping at the bit to prove themselves by putting the series on the right track.
That's even worse - we don't want these films in the hands of noobies. We want professional directors known for their technical skills on how to properly make a movie.
AVPR was given to directing noobs and look how that turned out.
The movies will eventually get to the hands of the chosen ones!.
Quote from: gameoverman on Jun 13, 2008, 03:32:29 AM
Quote from: Undeadite on Jun 13, 2008, 03:26:21 AM
Thats not true, I'm sure there are a lot of young film makers jumping at the bit to prove themselves by putting the series on the right track.
That's even worse - we don't want these films in the hands of noobies. We want professional directors known for their technical skills on how to properly make a movie.
AVPR was given to directing noobs and look how that turned out.
Everyone has to start out somewhere. Which is better, an accomplished but failing director who attaches himself to the project out of desperation? Or an up and comming visionary who is more likely to devote himself entirely to the material? I guess what I'm saying is, Shyamalan pre sixth sense or Shyamalan pre the happening, lmao :D
They should get a director that has at least done one good movie! If I do the math right, good director + awesome movie = Lots of money to be made and more fans to attract. So why the ultra shitty directors? Why the super low budget to make a retarded movie? That doesn't seem like a method to me. AVP-R didn't make that much money anyways.
Quote from: PHANTOM on Jun 13, 2008, 03:44:33 AM
Where is the part where everyones wins?
----[crickets].............
Its where impossibility meets coinsidence.
QuoteAVPR was given to directing noobs and look how that turned out.
So was Alien3. Turned out a lot better than it had a right to.
It used to be that a relative lack of directorial experience was a prerequesite to making a 'good' Alien flick.
AvP:Poo has proven that theory wrong.
Damn, I f**ked up mine and PHANTOM's posts back there. :P
But what I was going to say is that you really need to hire a professional director to do these movies. Paul Anderson was a professional - all of his movies are technically flawless.
You need to have the visuals up to par with the previous movies. That's the whole point of movies anyway (ok, mainly scifi/fantasy movies), to give us fantastic visuals that we wouldn't see in everyday life.
I think Cameron was being nice because he knows the AVP films are mostly fanboy films. Ridley said I wont comment because I'm friends with Fox so that tells you that he didn't like it very much.
Even though I said have Anderson as a joke as the next director I do like AVP a bit more its just better made than AVP R. He wanted to have more build which is fair enough and it isnt all about killing and action which AVP R was all about and it just looked a mess.
Quote from: gameoverman on Jun 13, 2008, 08:15:57 AM
Damn, I f**ked up mine and PHANTOM's posts back there. :P
But what I was going to say is that you really need to hire a professional director to do these movies. Paul Anderson was a professional - all of his movies are technically flawless.
Him getting a film accomplished is great and all, but if the end result is terrible, that skill is neither her nor there. Which is a problem he suffers from.
Quote from: nukem11 on Jun 13, 2008, 08:52:55 AM
I think Cameron was being nice because he knows the AVP films are mostly fanboy films.
He clarifies his views, on a later interview on that same site. He acknowledges that it has problems and agrees with many of the flaws, but in
pure entertainment terms, happened to think it was a fun ride. That's always pretty much been my view, too.
It didn't mean the same as a lot of people on here are assuming. Read all of his comments.
Guilmerro del Torro or David Twohy.
Paul Verhoeven, he could make it intelligent and entertaining at the same time.
Quote from: Vanski on Jun 29, 2008, 02:14:32 PM
Paul Verhoeven, he could make it intelligent and entertaining at the same time.
Right...
Ridley Scott and James Cameron they need to tie it to the series and i think only they should and could do it right
Yeah, they could pull these films out of the Abyss...*Bad pun i know*
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Jun 29, 2008, 06:33:05 PM
Yeah, they could pull these films out of the Abyss...*Bad pun i know*
yeah but its true
You just need a decent director. I think AVP 3 will happen but will go straight to DVD now after AVPR.
AVP 3 either has to be a big improvement to AVP R or worse.
Quote from: joey44 on Jun 29, 2008, 06:11:07 PM
Ridley Scott and James Cameron they need to tie it to the series and i think only they should and could do it right
Not in this lifetime pal.
I think Stephen Hopkins would do a great job as well. I know some people didnt like P2 but I thought it was a great movie and think that he can bring this franchise to life.
As long as he doesn't get too crazy with the action sure, I could go for Hopkins.
Has David Cronenburg been mentioned yet? :-\
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 01, 2008, 01:59:05 AM
As long as he doesn't get too crazy with the action sure, I could go for Hopkins.
The action for P2 was good, as long as theres no slow-motion or cheesyness in avp3 I am ok with him.
David Lynch would be cool for a AVP movie.
The name just doesnt seem to come up.
Quote from: wolfboy22 on Jul 01, 2008, 02:30:25 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 01, 2008, 01:59:05 AM
As long as he doesn't get too crazy with the action sure, I could go for Hopkins.
The action for P2 was good, as long as theres no slow-motion or cheesyness in avp3 I am ok with him.
Yes, no slo-mo is seconded over here. That's one thing that ruined AvP.
Like slow motion on facehuggers.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 07, 2008, 12:42:09 AM
Quote from: wolfboy22 on Jul 01, 2008, 02:30:25 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 01, 2008, 01:59:05 AM
As long as he doesn't get too crazy with the action sure, I could go for Hopkins.
The action for P2 was good, as long as theres no slow-motion or cheesyness in avp3 I am ok with him.
Yes, no slo-mo is seconded over here. That's one thing that ruined AvP.
All Alien and Predator movies have slow motion, it's a true visual style.
Then it depend how you handle it, but slow motion can give a lot of things in a scene as in Alien³ where most of scene using it are very artistic and create a great atmosphere.
I'm going to say probably Guillermo Del Torro, he could do the best job.
Paul Greengrass (Bourne) or Chris Nolan (Batman Begins, TDK).
Greengrass eh? Interesting choice.
Im sure we have had this before
and im gonna say either
Del Torro
Nolan
or Alex Proyas
My favs.
Mel Gibson
Roland Emmerich
Paul Anderson
Colin & Nick Strause
Michael Bay
Rob Zombie
Uwe Boll
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=12692.0
Paul Greengrass (Bourne) or Chris Nolan maybe.
Quote from: wolfboy22 on Aug 26, 2008, 02:55:57 PM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=12692.0
Yeah, I just saw that. It wasn't on the first page earlier so I didn't think there was an active thread about this topic.
steven speilberg!
Haha! The day he touches this franchise is the day pigs fly.
neil blomkamp, definetly.
James Cameron
Ridley Scott
Guillermo Del Torro
Neil Marshall
Danny Boyle
I would shit in my pants if any of those directors touched AVP3 or did a complete reboot trilogy.
James Cameron or Fincher
Quote from: PHANTOM on Aug 26, 2008, 08:51:04 PM
James Cameron
Ridley Scott
Guillermo Del Torro
Neil Marshall
Danny Boyle
I would shit in my pants if any of those directors touched AVP3 or did a complete reboot trilogy.
That was a bad joke :-\
Paul Verhoeven - my fav to direct an AVP film or a Predator film
OR
Someone to adapt the one of the best comics, get Frank Miller, Zak Snyder and/or Robert Rodriguez to direct.
The other choices people listed are also good, but I doubt that most of them would do AVP.
Quote from: gameoverman on Aug 27, 2008, 01:27:38 AM
The other choices people listed are also good, but I doubt that most of them would do AVP.
Thats why the thread is called the (dream) director for AVP3 lol. The truth is no well known talented director will ever touch AVP3. Heck, even if I was a big time director I wouldn't touch this franchise even to save it, or make money off from it. I would rather write and direct something else instead.
Personally, I would be very surprised if AVP3 even made it straight to DVD. I'll be even more suprised if it makes it to the big screen.
i thought it was certain ???
If it was certain, Fox woulda said something.
it would be lame if they did not finish it like they have been talking ... in space.. i would rather predator 3 but whatever happens
Based on previous experience it would be lame if they did finish it.
Beside's there isn't any "talking". The BS have said they want to do another one in space. And it starts and ends with that. Which doesn't mean shit. We will know they've been reall "talking" when Fox announces it.
Why would fox drop the chance to make another 120 million..
most movies and plots that we hear about start out as talk.. obviously you know the word from Jon Does at fox .. it's a go. when the 3rd one comes out in 2 or 3 years i might remember what you said.
If fox just suddenly figures out they f**ked up and should stop f**king up AVP i would be surprised.
i think they will make it because they have no reason not too. they have over a million $$$ reasons to make it dig ?
Maybe they will get some brains and make Aliens Vs Predator .. a film by it's self having nothing to do with the last 2
Quote from: PHANTOM on Aug 27, 2008, 04:06:01 AM
Quote from: gameoverman on Aug 27, 2008, 01:27:38 AM
The other choices people listed are also good, but I doubt that most of them would do AVP.
Thats why the thread is called the (dream) director for AVP3 lol.
If it's all a dream then I would direct AVP 3, with a 100 million dollar budget. :P
QuoteThe truth is no well known talented director will ever touch AVP3. Heck, even if I was a big time director I wouldn't touch this franchise even to save it, or make money off from it. I would rather write and direct something else instead.
I don't believe that. I thiink that if you could do it on your terms you probably would.
QuotePersonally, I would be very surprised if AVP3 even made it straight to DVD. I'll be even more suprised if it makes it to the big screen.
I'd be even more surprised if it's made at all. Damn you Strause Brothers and Fox. Damn you all to hell.
am i the only one who remember's fox saying that aliens vs predator was being released as a trilogy i must have been dreaming
Yes. I would say you are.
QuoteWhy would fox drop the chance to make another 120 million..
Because $120 mill is $8 mill less than AvP:Poo made and $50 mill unadjusted less than AvP made. At some point they there's a investment vs. return cut off. And you can only make these films so cheap with the creature effects involved. It's not like dressing some dude in a hockey mask and splashing some tomato sauce around.
Quotemost movies and plots that we hear about start out as talk.. obviously you know the word from Jon Does at fox .. it's a go. when the 3rd one comes out in 2 or 3 years i might remember what you said.
What?
Quote from: gameoverman on Aug 27, 2008, 01:27:38 AM
If it's all a dream then I would direct AVP 3, with a 100 million dollar budget. :P
If it was a dream then a 300 million budget would be more like it.
Quote from: Harkus on Aug 27, 2008, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: gameoverman on Aug 27, 2008, 01:27:38 AM
If it's all a dream then I would direct AVP 3, with a 100 million dollar budget. :P
If it was a dream then a 300 million budget would be more like it.
No, 100 mil is all I need for my vision of AVP. It wouldn't have massive battles between aliens and predators. It would be more claustrophobic like the alien movies. Imagine the hive battle in Aliens except with predators. And the fights would be quick and brutal. None of this extended, wrestling crap.
Except you're gonna have Predator fans crying out Alien bias b/c a hive is not terribly suited for a large creature like the Predator to move around in. As the name suggests, it's meant more for Aliens.
Plenty of open space in the hives, large wide passages.
Hives need to be big because of the Queen, and normal aliens aren't exactly small either, y'know.
in the comics when aliens have taken over a certain part of a planet the hives have huge mammoth cave like rooms and tunnels that are small and seems a bit like a crazy maze with huge stadium size areas and tiny crawl and you're hands and knees area's ... if aliens had hundreds of years to make a hive it would go on for hundreds of miles if not thousands.. and deep in the ground too
Quote from: Kriszilla on Aug 31, 2008, 03:56:10 PM
Plenty of open space in the hives, large wide passages.
Hives need to be big because of the Queen, and normal aliens aren't exactly small either, y'know.
But it's still a far cry from the jungles of South America or the buildings of L.A.
So?
Predators are hunters - they go into the environments their prey are used to.
They expect to end up in cramped spaces when fighting aliens and prepare for it, duh.
I want Rob Zombie to direct it!
The guy who directed Chain Reaction.
Danny Boyle!
^^Really?
I wouldn't think of him to do it. He is a good director no doubt about it, but an alien or predator film. he has done horror and sci fi but I wouldn't say it's the same as either of the film series.
Andrew Davis because The Fugitive and Chain Recation where great movies.
Neil Marshall would make a freakin insane AVP movie.
bing back James Cameron or John Mctierran or even nicholas myer or ridley scott
at least i don;t think they would do it unless they had a good story
Patrick Tatopoulos. I think he has great potential.
I don't want another AVP movie. I think it would be stupid too involve great directors like ridley scott or james cameron in a franchise of movies that are no better than B-movie fare. RS and JC should be left untouched unless they actually do a full fledged alien flick without predators. Too me it doesnt matter who they get too direct another AVP film. The idea of aliens fighting predators has proven to be a lame idea for film and i dont think thats going to change. Let the AVP franchise die already.
The only reason I could see someone being against aliens fighting predators is b/c the Alien, when it was first created, was never meant to be a fighting creature, i.e. space bug. But since Cameron changed all that with his movie, it doesn't matter anymore.
I still want to see what the Wachowski's would do with the franchise.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 09, 2008, 07:26:49 PM
The only reason I could see someone being against aliens fighting predators is b/c the Alien, when it was first created, was never meant to be a fighting creature, i.e. space bug. But since Cameron changed all that with his movie, it doesn't matter anymore.
Space bug? That was Camerons handiwork.
The Alien, a predator by nature, is just like any other creature in that survival is key. What predator isn't a fighting creature?
What I meant was, Ridley Scott's vision for the creature wasn't something that would be mundane and generic. He wanted to create something original and unique. Something alien. And he did.
I can agree with that.
I'd go for George Miller. Damn awesome filmmaker.
Stanley Kubrick...Ah, aw.
"he's dead, jim" ;D let it go.
Never!!! >:(
Quote from: AvPvTerminator on Nov 10, 2008, 03:08:36 AM
I still want to see what the Wachowski's would do with the franchise.
Jesus christ, no.
What about Joe Carnahan? He direct Smokin' Aces and Pride & Glory.
Quote from: B-Rad G on Nov 12, 2008, 01:19:21 PM
What about Joe Carnahan? He direct Smokin' Aces and Pride & Glory.
Pride & Glory? You sure mate? Ain't you thinking of Narc?
Pride & Glory is the newest movie with Ed Narton. My ideas for some directors!:
1) Christopher Nolan
Filmography:
Memento
Insomia
The Prestige
Batman Begin
The Dark Knight
Pro: Got a great repuation for psychological thrillers and has done a great job with the Batman franschie, bringing it back to life.
Con: Would he want to do another franschie after Batman.
2) Joe Carnahan
Filmography:
Smokin' Aces
Pride & Glory
Tumbleweeds
Ticker
Pros: He knows how to do action scenes and his writeing is pretty good.
Cons: A few of his movies where not big box offices hits like Ticker.
3) Oliver Hirschbiegel
Filmography:
Das Experiment
Downfall
Invasion
Pro: Shown to be a very good director in his native Germany and Downfall is a brilliant film.
Con: His report with English speaking films is unproven.
4) David Yates
Filmography:
Sex Traffic
The State of Play
Harry Potter and Order of the Phoenix
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
Pro: Has a good record on TV and got his big film break with the Harry Potter Franschie.
Con: Already doing a franschie.
5) Jon Amiel
Filmography:
Tune in Tomorrow
Copycat
The Man Who Knew Too Little
Entrapment
The Core
Catwomen
Pros: Entapment was a cool movie and The Core was amazing. His movies are pretty decent and he knows how to direct action
Con: Catwomen was a flop and I don't think more people would want to see movies from him anymore.
6) Guy Ritchie
Filmography:
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Snatch.
Swept Away
RocknRolla
Pros: If you seen Snatch, you can see that he is a great director of action and his writing is great.
Cons: His newest movie RocknRolla was not so hot at the box office.
7) J.J. Abrams
Filmography:
Alias
Lost
Mission Impossible III
Cloverfield
Star Trek
Pro: A good action director and has a good and growing reputation.
Con: He is American. He might make Bond like an old-fashion type of film and But, I would prefer him to stick to Trek before he moves to AVP.
8) Simon West
Filmography:
Con Air
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
The General's Daughter
When a Stranger Calls
Pros: Con Air was silly fun and I think he can pull off a Decent AVP movie with a great budget and a good screenplay.
Cons: Go see When a Stranger Calls and you will see why.
Edward Zwick
Filmography:
Glory
Courage Under Fire
The Siege
Last Samurai
Blood Diamond
Pros: He made a lot of great movies and Blood Diamond was a masterpice.
Cons: He is busy with Defiance at the moment.
J. J. Abrams only produced Cloverfield.
J.J. Abrams isn't a bad choice actually I think. He did a good job w/ Cloverfield, even if he only did produce it.
So he'd be a good choice to produce based off of Cloverfield, not direct.
what about Oliver Hirschbiege?
^No I don't think any of those directors you mentioned would suit AVP nor would they be interested.
I'm going to be realistic here:
1) Paul Anderson
PROS: Arguably made the best AVP movie, isn't averse to doing sequels (IE: Resident Evil), even if he didn't direct he would produce.
CONS: Most fans don't want him back, he isn't great with acting or dialogue.
2) Strause Bros
PROS: They want to do the film in space.
CONS: Inexperienced, they have terrible ideas, have a bad reputation..
3) Uwe Boll
PROS: Known for making video game adaptations.
CONS: Bad filmmaker.
4) Some hack
PROS: At least it gets made.
CONS: Straight to dvd at best.
Of that list, I'd rather have the Brothers b/c they can keep the film entertaining. Anderson's AvP was just plain boring.
Well I liked the buildup to them getting to the pyramid. AVPR had no interesting characters and was more boring IMO.
The buildup was nice yes, but once the 'action' started, the film was just ::) to me.
J. J. Abrams may want to do a AVP movie.
Quote from: B-Rad G on Nov 17, 2008, 12:58:35 PM
J. J. Abrams may want to do a AVP movie.
Based on?
Star Terk looks amazing and he does enjoy old Sfi like Dune and Star Wars. So why not?!
In that case Nicholas Meyer, because he directed classic 80s Trek; Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock and The Voyage Home.
well, a realistic choice could end up being Steve Wang who co-directed Mutronics and then directed Mutronics 2 and sculpted the Predalien
Quote from: B-Rad G on Nov 17, 2008, 12:58:35 PM
J. J. Abrams may want to do a AVP movie.
Ugh, I hope not.
^Why.
Quote from: gameoverman on Nov 17, 2008, 07:07:07 PM
In that case Nicholas Meyer, because he directed classic 80s Trek; Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock and The Voyage Home.
That would be perfect ;D!
It would honestly do best if a newcomer director helmed a third AVP movie, otherwise someone with a poor reputation will pick it up likely. Someone who understood how to makr things more subtle and maybe a tad independent may work as long as they keep the scale appropriate.
If the Strause brothers stopped being cocky, admitted fault on some ends and tryed a new approach they may do ok.
Just as long as you could actually see what happend on screen and they threw away the Predalien design =P
QuoteIn that case Nicholas Meyer, because he directed classic 80s Trek; Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock and The Voyage Home.
No he didn't. He directed ST2 and 6. Nimoy directed 3 and 4.
Look here:
http://www.planetavp.com/
It say's David Twohy might be the director
That YouTube video is old, old, old. Twohy hasn't agreed to anything, and likely won't since he's working on other films.
Since AVP:R turned the franchise into something I'd need to clean off the soles of my shoes, I'd like to see the director of Machine Girl and Tokyo Gore Police ought to direct AVP3, I might find his take more interesting.
Rob Reiner
Sam Rami
Peter Jackson
I think that these guys are among the best directors around today and show diversity in what they make, so given a good script, we might get a great AvP movie.
James Cameron
Neil Blokamp
John McTiernan
Sandy Collora.
-Rakai'Thwei
Sylvester Stallone
I hope they make another AVP film someday.
John Mctierran
Shane Black
James Cameron
Nicholas Meyer
Edward D Wood Jnr.
Quote from: TheMonolith on Aug 30, 2009, 10:39:55 PM
Rob Reiner
Sam Rami
Peter Jackson
I think that these guys are among the best directors around today and show diversity in what they make, so given a good script, we might get a great AvP movie.
Jackson was originally going to direct Alien: Resurrection but he refused. Something tells me he would want nothing to do with AvP.
He would've made an awesome Alien: Resurrection.
*Revives thread*
If I have to choose a director for the third AVP film, I'll choose either David Twohy or Guillermo del Toro to direct.
I know I answered this awhile back, but if I was to make a realistic list of directors I could see saying yes to a serious AVP reboot.....
-- David Twohy
-- Neil Blokamp
-- Neil Marshall
Hmmm, maybe even Nimród Antal if he does a good job with Predators, I say if Predators turns out to be a good movie he should be the number one pick for it then. Thats a big if though, he really needs to show his talent in Predators to get the fans blessing for a serious AVP reboot.
I have a feeling we'll get an AVP reboot down the road. To me it's inevitable, what is Fox gonna do? Make three more Predator films and three more Alien films, somewhere down the road AVP will come into the equation of what if? What if we give AVP the A-movie treatment and it makes aton of MONEY 8)
It has too much potential to just fade away like nothing. The idea sells. Someday guys....
but not today. Not yet, lets give Predators and Alien 5 a chance and then, we'll see :-\
Twohy actually has interest. Neil Marshall could do it if he went Descent instead of Dog Soldiers. There are lots of BETTER directors out there, but your not going to get them. None of the original trilogy directors will ever touch AvP. I wouldn't want Jeunet too.
McTiernan is/was in legal trouble.
Me!
Unlike the previous directors, I shalldeliberately make this movie suck, thereby killing the AvP film franchise, purifying the cinematic bloodline, and restricting Aliens, Predator, and AvP to their appropriate mediums.
Roland Emmerich.
Are we talking about a REAL Aliens Versus Predator movie ? REAL buget, REAL director, REAL screenplay, REAL actors...
Neil Blongkamp - The best choice 8).
Zack Snyder - My favorite.
James Cameron - Of course.
Carl Rinsch - Seems to be a good director.
Marcus Nispel - Like his style.
Nimrod Antal - Why not ?
Neil Marshall - I'm a Fan.
Guillermo Del Toro - He's not a Sci-Fi guy.
Joseph Kosinsky - If Tron Legacy is good.
Christian Alvart - Pandorum.
THE BLACKLIST
Paul Anderson - No.
The Strause Borthers - No need to explain why. Kill me.
Roland Emmerich - Kill me 1 million times
McG - The guy who commit that "thing" called Terminator - Salvation.
Mark Steven Johnson - Ghost Rider, Daredevil.
and so many more...
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Jun 06, 2010, 09:59:54 AM
Zack Snyder - My favorite.
[...]
Paul Anderson - No.
Weird 'cause their directing style is very similar.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 06, 2010, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Jun 06, 2010, 09:59:54 AM
Zack Snyder - My favorite.
[...]
Paul Anderson - No.
Weird 'cause their directing style is very similar.
Are you kidding ? ??? Zack Snyder is a very far more good director than Paul Anderson. PA has a good visual style but Zack Snyder is a visual genius.
They both use "gothic" and gory photography (when needed) and they exceed with slow-motion.
Slow-Mo with Anderson ? Where ?
You may want to watch AvP again.
Ridley Scott
Neil Blomkamp
Top two. I think both of those guys would make a HELL of a AVP movie.
George Lucas. Nothing like Preds with lightsabers and JarJar-Alien hybrids to put the final nail in the coffin.
The idea here is to save the movies, not destroy them further :P
Hey, it worked for Jesus.
Jesus had a lightsaber?
Yeah. 'Cept he was called Anakin.
James Cameron or Ridley Scott. I doubt Ridley would do it though.
Yeah I was staring to think the same thing. He hasn't done a sci-fi movie in quite sometime and now hes gonna do an Alien Prequel so he will probably take a break from sci fis again.
Not only that, he's doing Brave New World and The Forever War, the latter of which I am eagerly anticipating.
Neil Marshall, Christian Alvart, or Juan Carlos Fresnadillo
I would like Paul W.S. Anderson or Colin and Greg Strause to direct AVP3.
Or me Galaxys Ultimare Hunter.
James Cameron! I Mean Come On! He Made Terminator, Terminator 2, Aliens, Avatar! They Were Amazing Movies! We all might not expect avp3 film to ever be released but that's what i thought on predator 3 and now theres predators! The AVP3 film will be released in 6 years! I Just Know It!
To be realistic none of such directors like Cameron or Scott will ever touch AvP. I`d bet for Anderson. But for me best would be Tim Burton.
I love re-reading this thread, I love all of the choices that where listed down in the this thread back in 2008. I doubt Nolan will touch a AVP in milllion years.
I still won't mind Terry Gilliam though.
Quote from: AYoungVMoneyP on Jan 04, 2011, 02:47:55 AM
James Cameron! I Mean Come On! He Made Terminator, Terminator 2, Aliens, Avatar! They Were Amazing Movies! We all might not expect avp3 film to ever be released but that's what i thought on predator 3 and now theres predators! The AVP3 film will be released in 6 years! I Just Know It!
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McTiernan, and based on the first AVP comic AKA reboot. I dont feel like Predators are really Scott's or Cameron's areas, yet I feel like McTiernan has skills to make the aliens a shadowy menace that they were in the first 3 movies and the first AVP comic
What about Joe Dante (The Howling, Gremlins, Small Soldiers)?
I haven't seen The Howling, but doesn't Dante usually mix comedy into his stuff? I loved Gremlins for that reason, but I don't see it woring for AVP.
He has a good track record, and the first Howling was a good movie. Sony ofter him to direct a Godzilla movie before Roland Emmerich direct the 1998 movie at one point.
Wow, a Joe Dante Godzilla. Now that would have been cool.
Quote from: StrangeShape on Jan 04, 2011, 11:38:45 PM
McTiernan, and based on the first AVP comic AKA reboot. I dont feel like Predators are really Scott's or Cameron's areas, yet I feel like McTiernan has skills to make the aliens a shadowy menace that they were in the first 3 movies and the first AVP comic
The first AvP film was supposed to be based on the first comic directly but it was too expensive. Not to mention, Anderson used ideas from the comic in his film and we all know how that turned out.
What about the Tron Legacy director for AVP3?
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jan 05, 2011, 03:41:01 AM
What about the Tron Legacy director for AVP3?
Not enough experience. But who knows, he could make a very good AVP film. I much rather see Neil Marshal do a Predator movie or AvP.
Would Chuck Russell (Eraser, Blob '88, The Scorpion King) be a good choice?
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jan 05, 2011, 09:39:03 PM
Would Chuck Russell (Eraser, Blob '88, The Scorpion King) be a good choice?
No thanks.
I don't like him neither, but I think he might be a okay choice since his Blob remake was good.
Well, Blob `88 was looking exactly like AvP-r (which only confirmes how shitty and unorginal directors are the Straus). Next AvP should be in space, with some creative director doing it.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Jun 06, 2010, 09:59:54 AM
Christian Alvart - Pandorum.
Ugh, no thank you. "Case 39" (2010) was the one of the worst movies that I seen last year.
Also Pandorum.
A lot of directors have made bad movies. I would want one that is experienced in shooting action, sci-fi, and horror above all.
Doesn't mean the movie would ultimately be a good one. Paul Anderson has experience in all three genres at once (Event Horizon) and AvP still sucked.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 07, 2011, 02:17:16 AM
Doesn't mean the movie would ultimately be a good one. Paul Anderson has experience in all three genres at once (Event Horizon) and AvP still sucked.
True, but action/fx I thought were well done. The story kind of sucked, but I enjoyed AvP vary much.
Quote from: Master on Jan 06, 2011, 10:45:30 AM
Well, Blob `88 was looking exactly like AvP-r (which only confirmes how shitty and unorginal directors are the Straus). Next AvP should be in space, with some creative director doing it.
I remember reading that he was one of Fox's original choices for AVP long before Anderson came along. He might done a decent AVP movie back in the 90's maybe.
I would love to see "Christian Alvart" take a shot at it.
Pandorum in my eyes was a great movie. A little masterpiece even.
Yeah, Pandorum was fresh psyhodelic s-f. I wouldn't mind him trying AvP.
The half a dozen times something mildly interesting happened, you couldn't see shit. Stupid God-damn movie, honestly.
What about Ryuhei Kitamura for AVP3?
Two words: John Carpenter
Neil Marshall (Dog Soldiers, The Descent).
Stanley flipping Kubrick.
This thread kind of blows my mind.
Oh, definitely Kubrick. Between 2001 and the Moon Landings, he's really proved that he can do sci-fi.
Now, we just need to resurrect him...
Maybe then he can explain to us how this thread got to 67 pages with nothing but people naming the first director that comes to their mind.
Maybe.
I have a feeling that predxeno is behind it... somehow...
His fingers are in all the puddin's.
What about Jonathan Liebesman for AVP3?
Uwe Boll
I think he's the only guy in Hollywood desperate enough to sign the contract. :P
Peter Jackson
T'would be interesting.
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 12, 2011, 03:26:42 AM
Uwe Boll
I think he's the only guy in Hollywood desperate enough to sign the contract. :P
You really want the franchise to go that low?
Neil Marshall
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 13, 2011, 03:35:15 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 12, 2011, 03:26:42 AM
Uwe Boll
I think he's the only guy in Hollywood desperate enough to sign the contract. :P
You really want the franchise to go that low?
It can go lower?
Yes. And it starts with Eww Boll.
I here his film The Rampage was actually pretty good.
After watching "Battle: LA" (2011), I think Jonathan Liebesman could make a decent AVP movie.
Two directors working together:
John Mc Tiernen and Ridley Scott (or James Cameron).
That would be the best AVP movie ever.
Quote from: samoht on Mar 13, 2011, 11:09:11 PM
Two directors working together:
John Mc Tiernen and Ridley Scott (or James Cameron).
That would be the best AVP movie ever.
I second this and the Peter Jackson suggestion. Or maybe Stephen Hopkins and James Cameron, with "quietly suspenseful slaughter-house scene" and "awe-inspiring spaceship scene" Hopkins instead of "Danny Glover randomly comes out of nowhere and somehow knocks himself and the Predator over the side of the building scene" and "let Bill Paxton perform however the heck he wants to as Jerry Lambert" Hopkins.
Also:
Shusuke Kaneko (provided he has really good translators)
Christopher Nolan
David Fincher (Give him final cut control)
Robert Rodriguez
Clint Eastwood
The Coen Brothers
Sandy Collorra (sp.?)
Me
...
M. Night Shyamalan
Uwe Boll
Scott Harper (
AVH director)
The Strause Brothers
Claudio Fragasso
Rick Sloane
Leigh Scott
Sam Raimi I think would be good.
Peter Jackson.
Couldn't complain with him. Especially after the previous two films.
Quote from: samoht on Apr 23, 2011, 11:08:44 PM
Peter Jackson.
Couldn't complain with him. Especially after the previous two films.
He's good too. I saw Dead Alive recently, it's now my favorite zombie movie. ;D
He had his chance with Resurrection...
Yeah, no way he'd touch AvP.
Clint Eastwood would never do a AVP movie in a million years.
I would want McTiernan to direct a close adaptation of the first AVP comic
It's been said that the original comic couldn't be made due to massive budget it would need, although, John McTiernan would probably do a decent adaptation of it.
Quote from: Pn2501 on Apr 25, 2011, 01:17:30 PM
It's been said that the original comic couldn't be made due to massive budget it would need
Maybe, but I dont know. They could shoot in a desert, and there are plenty of those oversees so that would cut the production cost big time. The colony/fortress they could build parts of and green screen the rest, I think if they would do it oversees they could squeeze within budget limits, so under $90 mill or so I guess. If first AVP did it, the comic adaptation of the AVP comic could too
Apparently the stamped scene was more costly then the entire budget, I'm lacking sources I'll double check.
I believe you. I was just feeding myself with false hopes
It wouldn't be that expensive these days.
Stampede? CGI. Bam, problem solved.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 25, 2011, 11:27:36 PM
... we're talking about the comic.
I figured it out, and deleted my post :-[. Thanks :)
No we are talking about the comic, and an adaptation of it, I think half the reason the films were set on earth were budgetary especially avp:r, avp films are such a niche I really can't see them wanting to risk even a 150 mil budget on them. Maybe in a few more years when everything is even cheaper than it already is.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 25, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
It wouldn't be that expensive these days.
Stampede? CGI. Bam, problem solved.
I still think a scene like that would be rather expensive even in cgi.
Yes, but not "More expensive than the rest of the movie" expensive.
Not to mention it could easily be written out.
Quote from: samoht on Apr 23, 2011, 11:08:44 PM
Peter Jackson.
Couldn't complain with him. Especially after the previous two films.
Or maybe even his associate, Neill Blomkamp, the director and writer of District 9. He might actually be willing to do it because he's relatively new to the business.
No argument there.
I think Its been so many years and two terrible avp movies have just dampened my enthusiasm for an avp movie even one based on the original comic, 13-16 year old me would be totally stoked for it.
Quote from: Horhey on Apr 25, 2011, 11:40:22 PM
Quote from: samoht on Apr 23, 2011, 11:08:44 PM
Peter Jackson.
Couldn't complain with him. Especially after the previous two films.
Or maybe even his associate, Neill Blomkamp, the director and writer of District 9. He might actually be willing to do it because he's relatively new to the business.
I think neill already has to big of a profile to be interested in an avp movie.
Quote from: Horhey on Apr 25, 2011, 11:40:22 PM
Or maybe even his associate, Neill Blomkamp, the director and writer of District 9. He might actually be willing to do it because he's relatively new to the business.
Blomkamp is keen on never doing a big franchise-studio project again after his work on the Halo movie. And good on him.
Quote from: Pn2501 on Apr 25, 2011, 11:35:34 PM
No we are talking about the comic, and an adaptation of it, I think half the reason the films were set on earth were budgetary especially avp:r, avp films are such a niche I really can't see them wanting to risk even a 150 mil budget on them. Maybe in a few more years when everything is even cheaper than it already is.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 25, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
It wouldn't be that expensive these days.
Stampede? CGI. Bam, problem solved.
I still think a scene like that would be rather expensive even in cgi.
The first AvP was based on the first comic and it was shit. Go figure.
The first AvP took ideas from the first comic that basically began and ended with "Rite of passage, chick teams up with the last Predator".
Still turned out pretty lousy. And from what I gather, lots of folks weren't big on Briggs' original script which was a direct adaptation of the comic.
If that's what you gathered then your sampling must've been pretty weird; general sentiment was more along the lines of "Why did we not get this back when it was relevant?"
Pretty sure you once told me you didn't like it.
I don't see why I would have; I enjoyed it.
McTiernan has not do a great film in years. He stop directing movies after "Rollerball" back in 2002 from what I can remember?
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Apr 26, 2011, 04:32:53 AM
McTiernan has not do a great film in years. He stop directing movies after "Rollerball" back in 2002 from what I can remember?
not true (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001532/) and he couldn't be any worse than pwsa, or brothers Strause.
AVP only took ideas from the first AVP comic, like the immobilized Queen, the automatic "egg factory", marking foreheads and girl/predator teamup. But a real AVP adaptation wouldve been awesome. I thought that first AVP story captured the feel of the first Predator an Aliens, thats why I think McTiernan would be perfect for it since he can do Predator like no one else and would also be able to create the right, shadowy feel with aliens like Cameron did in Aliens
The first AVP comic book could have been adapt with the AVP (2004) budget if not less.
The colony replace the whaling station. It's mostly industrial and doesn't need an exact replica of it.
Also, since there's only the colony and some random canyon location, the Pyramid set budget (which was kinda expansive with all the art) could have been spent into something else as CGI.
For the location of the set, Morocco studios have some real desert places and prices are very low.
Many Europeans low budget movies use this state to shoot in desert since it's costless, accessible and well supported.
Concerning CGI, those needed are basic stuff.
I mean everything in the comic book about CGI (outer space, cloak shoulder canon, queen) is pretty close to AVP budget.
Well there's for sure this Chopper, the crash of the huge ship at the end and the charge of the animals.
That's pretty much all about it.
For Canyon & others location they could have just shoot the scenes somewhere else. It's not a big deal and definitely don't pass the 40M$ budget.
What happened probably is the fact the producers did not want to move their ass far for such a story and they would have preferred studios in LA which increase a lot the budget.
They also probably thought that introducing aliens on earth might be a cool idea never seen in the licence and so it made it easier for the audience to have a reference with some easy tag line related to earth or whatever. Marketing options...
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Concerning the director, I would have say David Lynch.
I'm pretty sure most the studio filming was in the Czech republic not LA.
Alien Vs. Predator was filmed for the most part in an abandoned Sugar Refinery in Prague, yeah.
You misunderstood what I meant.
I admit it is my fault, I did not say it well.
So let's rephrase the thing:
Morocco (and desert location) is far more isolated than a set place next to Pragues, capital of Czech.
That's why the studio never thought of going there because it implies residence on set to not consume a travel time and the crew (actors, producers, whatever) are sometimes upset to not have a decent location for the set.
They never considered it because they never had an AvP script set in a desert.
That is confusing, as to why Anderson would not use a setting on Ryushi. He used a Predator design out of the EU but not the setting?
Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2011, 10:28:08 PM
They never considered it because they never had an AvP script set in a desert.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Apr 28, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
That is confusing, as to why Anderson would not use a setting on Ryushi. He used a Predator design out of the EU but not the setting?
It's not confusing at all.
The studio wanted it on Earth. Anderson delivered.
Anderson wanted to maintain some of the isolation that the original movies all played on, so he set it in as remote a place as he could -- the ass of the world.
Makes plenty sense.
I don't care if the director is a jar of mayonnaise as long as its a good film and the fans and critics will enjoy it.
James Cameron and Robert Rodriguez
Quote from: #6.0 on Jul 11, 2011, 06:18:26 PM
James Cameron and Robert Rodriguez
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Nimrod Antal, Neill Blomkamp,Zach Snyder (Im trying to not name ones that are too obvious)
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... me
Na...me... ;D
Quote from: x2SMONEY on Jul 11, 2011, 11:54:38 PM
Nimrod Antal, Neill Blomkamp,Zach Snyder (Im trying to not name ones that are too obvious)
Quote from: dragonthingy on Jul 11, 2011, 11:50:22 PM
... me
Na...me... ;D
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Only God himself could make the perfect AVP movie.....:D
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jul 12, 2011, 12:53:25 AM
Only God himself could make the perfect AVP movie.....:D
I think that too dude :)
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::) mmm
Ya cus no human could please the fans well at least when it comes to alien and predators fans...haha
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jul 12, 2011, 12:59:15 AM
Ya cus no human could please the fans well at least when it comes to alien and predators fans...haha
OK so :
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I have three contestants for possible AVP3/reboot direction. Ridley Scott. James Cameron. Wes Craven. Perhaps they could all be involved. Wes Craven being the Executive Producer. Ridley Scott the Director and Writer and James Cameron the Producer and Writer (along with Scott).
Wes Graven has not been great in years. I did enjoy the 4th Scream movie but the rest of his movies in the past decade have been crap or meh. I would not like him be apart of a AVP film.
Nontheless, Wes Craven could give the movie some good horror but not overdoing it. And I hope they don't drop the ball with CGI like AVP:R did
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Sep 19, 2011, 08:08:01 PM
Nontheless, Wes Craven could give the movie some good horror but not overdoing it. And I hope they don't drop the ball with CGI like AVP:R did
Wes Craven can make a horror movie. But i'm afraid he can't pull off the scifi feel the avp movies need. The director from Pandorum would be a great choice. Or Neil Marshall can introduce something fresh. But no Craven.
Okay, fair enough. For directors, I cannot guess. Im open to any director who has had any movies being crittically aclaimed. All I have to say is it would be a pain for the Strause Brothers to return. NO!
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Sep 20, 2011, 05:46:06 PM
Okay, fair enough. For directors, I cannot guess. Im open to any director who has had any movies being crittically aclaimed. All I have to say is it would be a pain for the Strause Brothers to return. NO!
Guess that would never happen :P Even Fox should know by now what a mistake that was.
David Twohy.
Pleeeeease.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Sep 20, 2011, 06:45:14 PM
David Twohy.
Pleeeeease.
Can't do more then just 100% agree with this 8)
Gareth Edwards could work as a director if he ends up dropping out of Godzilla. Monsters (2010) was a pretty well made film and was able to pull off great special effects with a budget under 1 million.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Sep 24, 2011, 03:47:26 AM
Gareth Edwards could work as a director if he ends up dropping out of Godzilla. Monsters (2010) was a pretty well made film and was able to pull off great special effects with a budget under 1 million.
Couldn't see his style fitting an avp film, fans would hate it, interesting to see what his version of Godzilla will be like.
Also why would he have to drop from Godzilla?
Quote from: SiL on Sep 24, 2011, 10:44:27 PM
Also why would he have to drop from Godzilla?
The same reason why Jan de Bont drop out back in 1995. David Cronenberg could work for a AVP film.
... why would he have to drop out to do AvP. It's not like a new AvP film's gonna happen any time soon anyway.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 30, 2011, 04:51:40 AM
... why would he have to drop out to do AvP. It's not like a new AvP film's gonna happen any time soon anyway.
or ever
Quote from: howardvegas on Oct 25, 2011, 09:23:07 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 30, 2011, 04:51:40 AM
... why would he have to drop out to do AvP. It's not like a new AvP film's gonna happen any time soon anyway.
or ever
At least until I get my screenplay shopped around. But hey, I've got time! :D
I hope Edwards doesn't drop out though. I want a new Godzilla film! And a good one, too!
Cameron, David Twohy or Neil Marshal.
Quote from: AlexVelez on Dec 06, 2011, 04:22:40 AM
Cameron, David Twohy or Neil Marshal.
Neil Marshal all the way ;D He is one of the few directors out there with their own brand on a movie. When you see one of his movies you immediatly see its his because of the way of shooting and everything. Not much directors have that nowadays :(
Guillermo del Toro or Christopher Nolan
I don't mind seeing J.J. Abrams direct AVP3, but what are the odds of that happening? ::)