https://ew.com/aliens-vs-avengers-marvel-comic-jonthan-hickman-preview-8635180
QuoteIn space, no one can hear you scream, "Avengers Assemble!"
Over the course of the Alien franchise, the fearsome creatures known as Xenomorphs have encountered — and eviscerated — all types of enemies, including workers, soldiers, prisoners, scientists, and even Predators. But this summer, they'll reach a new level when they come face to face with superheroes.
Now that Disney owns the rights to both Marvel and Alien (the latter stemming from the studio's 2019 acquisition of Fox assets), Entertainment Weekly can exclusively report that these two franchises are colliding in the crossover comic Aliens vs. Avengers, from writer Jonathan Hickman and artist Esad Ribic.
https://twitter.com/the_streamr/status/1780955499791548723?s=46&t=5D44WiNDPil9iHMSdgL3hg
This doesn't interest me at all, but I really dig that logo.
Can't imagine this being amazing, but I'm down to check it out.
We've gotten some fun stuff out of crossovers with Batman, Superman, etc.
That logo is cool, and I bet we'll at least get some cool variant covers out of this.
I'll read it! ;D
Hickman is one of Marvel's biggest writers at the moment, and I adore Ribic's art (his God Butcher arc stuff for Jason Aaron's Thor run is incredible). They have some real talent on this thing, wild.
I probably won't read this, I don't have a ton of interest in crossover stuff like this, but the talent they got on this one is really great. I'd be shocked if we see any tracing in this one, to say the least.
I like the inverted W-Y logo to make it AVA
Should be interesting, I gotta say Captain America's face frowning mouth on that cover is hilarious 🤣
Love the logo. Avoiding it completely, however.
Poor Alien, getting destroy after Predator
It was only a matter of time ...
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 18, 2024, 04:26:41 PMIt was only a matter of time ...
True, there has been superhero crossovers before. There was a superman and batman one, both DC. I guess its marvels turn.
Planet of the Apes will probably be getting one next.
This should be some enjoyable silliness.
I always find stuff like this to be harmless fun
I'm also just a sucker for crossovers (AVP being my favorite, of course lol)
Can't wait!
Oh, mustelid god, no.
Quote from: EW"Probably one of the coolest things about the project is how we've found really fun ways to 'Avengerize' Aliens and 'alien-up' Avengers," Hickman says. "I think fans will be surprised at how elegantly some of those things fit together. It really turned out to be a chocolate-and-peanut-butter situation."
The brief plot synopsis for the crossover says, "It's all led to this: Xenomorphs reach Earth! The perfect organism meets a planet of superhumans. Who will be first to fall?"
That means this comic will show something that has never been seen in a proper Alien film. In fact, stopping the Xenomorphs from reaching Earth has been treated as so sacrosanct that it's the motivation behind the protagonists' climactic actions in Alien, Alien³, and Prometheus, to name a few. But this series is set a little into the future, outside the typical continuity for either Alien or Avengers stories, which gives some room to play.
The first issue of Aliens vs. Avengers will hit stores July 24, just ahead of the Aug. 16 theatrical release of Alien: Romulus.
https://twitter.com/EW/status/1780945910270202170
I'd add more, but I think Steve Carell can say it better than I can.
Now,if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go play
Animal Crossing and cry myself to sleep.
ew.
Gross.
Okay, as Marvel's superhero comics reader I can say that Jonathan Hickman is the best and most renowed writer we got for Aliens or Predator comics so far. He was capable of creating epic saga with monumental story with his Avengers run, interesting fresh beggining with tone of new ideas for X-men, and more personal stories, just as with his ongoing Ultimate Spider-Man. So guy is a total powerhouse and I can't wait to see what he is preparing for us. That said, I think that Aliens or Predator crossovers work the best with more grounded Heroes, so Xenos going head to head with Avengers... I Don't know, it will be total insanity with superpowered Xenos or something. Not that it's a bad thing. An over the top, ridiculus fun can be entertaining. Anyway, I trust that Hickman Has something interesting in store for us. But man, when we'll get AvP comics from Marvel? I can't belive we are getting Avengers crossover before a Predator one .
I don't get the problem.
Yeah I'm not bothered by the synopsis, really. That's about what I'd expect from a crossover like this. It's a dumb fun "what if" scenario, not to be taken seriously.
Quote from: jacobo1122 on Apr 18, 2024, 08:29:40 PMBut man, when we'll get AvP comics from Marvel?
I'm kind of ok with them working up to it. Maybe make it feel like a big event that's been built up to.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 18, 2024, 08:32:56 PMI don't get the problem.
Really? 'Cause I do!
I never take comics seriously. I see them as sandbox parodies of the source material, or as a "what if" narrative as already noted above.
Some more details according to CBR and Marvel...
It's going to be in an AU where its going to be many years in the future and the Avenger characters are going to be older. And we might see an Engineer planet too.
https://www.cbr.com/aliens-vs-avengers-marvel/
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/aliens-vs-avengers-jonathan-hickman-esad-ribic
I just find this whole concept offensive. What's next? Aliens vs. Buzz f**king Lightyear?
Eh, seems harmless. I'll probably check it out. Comics are wild.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 18, 2024, 09:06:29 PMI just find this whole concept offensive. What's next? Aliens vs. Buzz f**king Lightyear?
If it was, so what?
We had Aliens vs Predator vs Batman vs Superman. We had Predator vs Archie - twice. We had Deadliest of the Species.
How is this somehow a remarkable problem?
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 18, 2024, 09:06:29 PMWhat's next?
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Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 18, 2024, 09:06:29 PMWhat's next? Aliens vs. Buzz f**king Lightyear?
Just unlocked a memory of this drawing I did when I was a teenager lol
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Yeah we've already run through a lot of DC crossovers. I'm not interested but its hardly offensive or new.
lol, it was inevitable. Nice for those who enjoy it, but this will 100% never be in my collection along with the Aliens vs Superman etc shite that came before it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for fun non-canon crossovers (I mean, Aliens vs Predator itself is one such example.. I didn't mind Judge Dredd vs Aliens either... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't), but traditional comic book superheroes have no place in *any* take on the Alien universe in my eyes tbh. But each to their own :-)
Quote from: SiL on Apr 18, 2024, 09:13:10 PMHow is this somehow a remarkable problem?
It's not, that's my problem. :laugh:
Batman Vs Predator and Wolverine Vs Predator are both excellent, but they are interesting characters that fit the tone of the Predator.
The Avengers though? Meh.
That's cool 8)
Avengers is weak give Weapon X, Team X, Wolverine, Maverick, Cable, Bishop, Deathloks, Blade, Punisher vs Aliens, Predaliens, Predators, Enginers ...
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 18, 2024, 10:01:58 PMBatman Vs Predator and Wolverine Vs Predator are both excellent, but they are interesting characters that fit the tone of the Predator.
The Avengers though? Meh.
Batman vs Predator works better than Aliens vs Predator. That's a movie I want to see.
Looks fun. Surprised it took them this long.
I'd definitely be rooting for the Aliens in this one! Egg Morphing for all! Also does a chestburster get the powers of an Avenger it grows inside?
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I'm surprised they went with the Avengers and not Guardians of the Galaxy for the obvious reasons but I guess The Avengers is just a bigger name. It's also funny how they did this before an AVP comic.
The artcover looks incredible though, I love the painter artbrush style.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 18, 2024, 09:13:10 PMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 18, 2024, 09:06:29 PMI just find this whole concept offensive. What's next? Aliens vs. Buzz f**king Lightyear?
If it was, so what?
We had Aliens vs Predator vs Batman vs Superman. We had Predator vs Archie - twice. We had Deadliest of the Species.
How is this somehow a remarkable problem?
Yeah, I also don't know why some people are so angry with it. For starters, we all knew it was gonna happen at some point. Secondly, superhero crossovers aren't anything new for the franchise, it's actually pretty fun and nostalgic to have them back. And finally, Marvel appears to taking this one seriously by assigning a big name to write it. It doesn't mean he can't make mistake of course. Worst case scenario, we'll just get luckluster crossover. It's nothing new either, we had plenty of those in DH times. Also, series like this one have chance to attract some eventual new folks to the Alien franchise.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 18, 2024, 09:13:10 PMHow is this somehow a remarkable problem?
Batman and Superman are fairly dark, adult properties compared to the Avengers, especially recently, so they make more sense when paired up with
Alien. Plus, they're from a different studio, so they're actual crossovers. As for the Archie stuff, that should have been left in the past where it belongs. Hell, even the Predator vs. Wolverine thing kinda made sense.
But this is just wrong. It has Plusaversary vibes. I hate that D*sney is mashing up its candy-hued kiddy heroes with
Alien. I just think it's wrong. To quote Charlie Holloway, "...'Cause we could."
Superman is dark ?
Just sounds like cope to me.
Superman wears his bright primary coloured underwear outside his bright primary coloured pants against the Aliens. Let's please be consistent.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 19, 2024, 09:06:16 AMJust sounds like cope to me.
No, it's my opinion. And I stand by it.
More to the point, it's not the colour of the uniforms that annoys me either. It's the "'Cause we could" vibe that flows off this thing in waves. We own all of this, let's slam it all together!
I know one guy who thinks Superman is dark:
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Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 19, 2024, 09:07:27 AMQuote from: SiL on Apr 19, 2024, 09:06:16 AMJust sounds like cope to me.
No, it's my opinion. And I stand by it.
That's fair. It just that your reasoning is a bit ... dubious
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 19, 2024, 09:07:27 AMIt's the "'Cause we could" vibe that flows off this thing in waves. We own all of this, let's slam it all together!
How do you think we got AvP ... ?
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 19, 2024, 09:08:49 AMThat's fair. It just that your reasoning is a bit ... dubious
Really? I think my reasoning is perfectly valid. Marvel as a brand has been struggling recently, and now D*sney is trying to defibrillate it with
Alien. It just feels distasteful that this greatest of franchises is being used for such a purpose
Quote from: SiL on Apr 19, 2024, 09:13:58 AMHow do you think we got AvP ... ?
Yeah, and look at how that went! I tried watching AvP last night and didn't get to the end! Moreover, Ridley Scott hates any mention of it!
It went brilliantly. Highest selling independent comic of the time. Successful line of comics, novels and games. The whole reason this site exists.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 19, 2024, 09:15:41 AMIt just feels distasteful that this greatest of franchises is being used for such a purpose
Oh come on, by what possible metric is it the greatest?
What can I say? I'm only really interested in
Alien.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 19, 2024, 09:19:51 AMOh come on, by what possible metric is it the greatest?
Personal opinion.
I'm sure there're people right now furious that AvengersTM are being mixed with them dirty Aliens. Like, ARGH, so infuriating !
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 19, 2024, 09:01:53 AMSuperman is dark ?
👁🦇👁Superdark! A new superhero
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 19, 2024, 10:01:49 AMSuperdark!
Here, I've made the logo
Spoiler
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You're welcome, DC
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 19, 2024, 10:04:23 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 19, 2024, 10:01:49 AMSuperdark!
Here, I've made the logo
Spoiler
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You're welcome, DC
They should include it in a
AVPR especial edition.
DC being darker and more adult than Marvel is such an obsolete opinion coming back from the 60' and maybe strenghted by MCU recently but is as far from truth as possible. Both can have dark or lighter stories. And Dark doesn't mean for adults it can by just edgy story for teenagers than think they are so mature. Snyder's movies are good example. They pose as dark and gritty, but are shallow as a puddle with their themes. With comics, it depends on writer how it would be in the end. What is true, however, is that Aliens and Predator works better with more grounded heroes because they don't pose much threat to some of the more "super" superheroes. But I'm interested in how Hickman will work with this problem. Would it be insane Xenos with superpowers, or something more interesting?
Quote from: jacobo1122 on Apr 19, 2024, 11:58:35 AMDC being darker and more adult than Marvel is such an obsolete opinion coming back from the 60' and maybe strenghted by MCU recently but is as far from truth as possible.
My opinion is not obsolete, not is it "as far from the truth as possible". It's my opinion. And I hate this. I'm free to. I think it's a total misuse of the
Alien brand.
I prefer aliens against "realistic" science fiction and that goes for all of them, not just our beloved Alien franchise.
Predator only works because you can drop him into anything, I find Avengers only compelling with particular set-ups, X-Men I am all over though.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 19, 2024, 12:20:04 PMQuote from: jacobo1122 on Apr 19, 2024, 11:58:35 AMDC being darker and more adult than Marvel is such an obsolete opinion coming back from the 60' and maybe strenghted by MCU recently but is as far from truth as possible.
My opinion is not obsolete, not is it "as far from the truth as possible". It's my opinion. And I hate this. I'm free to. I think it's a total misuse of the Alien brand.
Yeah, but You stating that DC is darker and more mature doesn't change the fact that both Marvel and DC had both darker and lighter stories, serious or ridiculus, more mature ones and those targetted to younger audience from decades now. And none of this two publishers have such a narrow direction to be only for one particular group of consumers. So there are facts to prove your opinion right or wrong. Now saying that You don't like Aliens being part of that is entirely subjective opinion and I'm not saying that it's right or wrong. Only that I don't agree or doesn't understand why it bothers You so much :)
Its not any different than Alien vs Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, WildCATS, Tarzan, or any of the other silly crossovers. I wasn't interested in most of them either but hardly worth getting upset about. If you're not interested then don't read them and it will be like it never happened.
Imma be honest, I think if it were Predator vs Avengers, I'd be more interested. With the Aliens, tho... I think it's gonna get boring real quickly.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 19, 2024, 12:20:04 PMQuote from: jacobo1122 on Apr 19, 2024, 11:58:35 AMDC being darker and more adult than Marvel is such an obsolete opinion coming back from the 60' and maybe strenghted by MCU recently but is as far from truth as possible.
My opinion is not obsolete, not is it "as far from the truth as possible". It's my opinion. And I hate this. I'm free to. I think it's a total misuse of the Alien brand.
someone doesn't read immortal hulk or the current hulk series, the current wolverine war arc or any of whats happening with venom and carnage and it shows.
If anyone want to see that Marvel superhero stuff can be dark, gory, but also mature and deep, I reccomend trying to read Immortal Hulk. It Has some disturbing body horror, psychological character study, philosophical themes and still is just fun superhero read. I never expected comic about Hulk to give me all of this, but here we are. And man,I hope that it's writer, Ale Ewing, will get Alien to write some day. If he wants to, of course.
I hope the Xenos wipe them out :)
at the very least with hickman were going to get cool charts and graphical info from Weyland yutani or whatever
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 19, 2024, 03:28:22 PMsomeone doesn't read immortal hulk or the current hulk series, the current wolverine war arc or any of whats happening with venom and carnage and it shows.
Nor do I have any intention of doing so.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 19, 2024, 04:16:13 PMQuote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 19, 2024, 03:28:22 PMsomeone doesn't read immortal hulk or the current hulk series, the current wolverine war arc or any of whats happening with venom and carnage and it shows.
Nor do I have any intention of doing so.
then u don't have enough info to justify your opinion :)
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 19, 2024, 04:17:44 PMthen u don't have enough info to justify your opinion :)
I can still have an opinion on this.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 19, 2024, 05:30:32 PMQuote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 19, 2024, 04:17:44 PMthen u don't have enough info to justify your opinion :)
I can still have an opinion on this.
one thats kinda wrong but sure you can have one
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No matter what happens I only know one thing... :-X👉👈
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SM's Opinion is canon :o👉👈
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 19, 2024, 05:30:32 PMI can still have an opinion on this.
If you're going to remain wilfully ignorant, why bother? If you're so uninterested and refuse to educate yourself on the topic, why waste time and energy thinking anything about it?
One doesn't have to have an opinion on everything. One can simply move on from something that disinterests them.
Quote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 19, 2024, 05:35:58 PMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 19, 2024, 05:30:32 PMQuote from: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Apr 19, 2024, 04:17:44 PMthen u don't have enough info to justify your opinion :)
I can still have an opinion on this.
one thats kinda wrong but sure you can have one
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"Who will be first to fall? The superhumans and literal gods with their explosive eye rays, or the space termites?"
The Avengers had gone to dark stories before, anyone knows Marvel Zombies or Ruins? So it's not impossible for the story to go right.
Meh. I'm sure the art will be fine, the writing will be fine, but it's not going to be for me, mostly because I'm not a fan of superheroes in general (save Batman and Spiderman).
It's the same harmless fluff is always been.
It might even be good.
👁🕸👁👉👈Spiderman is the 🐏
I didn't like it back then either. If it's dropped onto my lap then maybe I'll look into it.
Spiderman!!!
Punisher vs Predator will be interesting when it inevitably rolls around.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 19, 2024, 10:33:34 PMPunisher vs Predator will be interesting when it inevitably rolls around.
THAT I'll read!
Aliens vs XMen if they go full Kenner would at least be ridiculous fun.
Alien blood versus adamantium. Hmmmmm
Quote from: SiL on Apr 19, 2024, 10:33:34 PMPunisher vs Predator will be interesting when it inevitably rolls around.
Or Boba Fett vs. Predator if they ever decided to do a crossover with Star Wars.
Aliens in Star Wars would be fun.
Are you sure that's not a total misuse of the Alien brand?
I was quite sad when the Aliens / Star Trek: TNG crossover got cancelled, if only to see how they were going to make the Xenomorph a threat in a world of phasers, force fields, the ability to lock onto life forms and beam them into the vacuum of space, and the medical capabilities to remove embryos without invasive surgery lol. 😂
And Captain Picard making a rousing speech about the fundamental rights of the Aliens to exist and breed?
It would be amusing to see Data go all Ash on his crewmates.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 20, 2024, 12:12:56 AMAre you sure that's not a total misuse of the Alien brand?
We're 45 years too late to be clutching pearls about Alien merchandise.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 20, 2024, 12:33:06 AMAnd Captain Picard making a rousing speech about the fundamental rights of the Aliens to exist and breed?
It would be amusing to see Data go all Ash on his crewmates.
Worf telling the queen she has no honor, Troi telling us how the xenos are feeling, Riker getting horny for facehuggers , close up of a xeno drooling and hissing subtitled "shut up Wesley", Whoopie Goldberg cocooned up on a wall smiling and giving Picard a speech that boils down to "it is how it is", and Picard saving the day by switching off the holodeck safety protocols and mowing down the hive with a Tommy gun... I think it'd have been a real winner. 🤣
And of course there will be a technobabble reason why the biofilter can't remove the chestburster embryos during transport.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Biofilter
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Apr 19, 2024, 10:06:46 PMThe Avengers had gone to dark stories before, anyone knows Marvel Zombies or Ruins? So it's not impossible for the story to go right.
Reign had Peter giving MJ cancer (don't ask how )
If you want, the answer, here is.
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Spider-Man gave MJ cancer Because of his radiated semen
Daaamnwahahaha
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 19, 2024, 10:56:28 PMOr Boba Fett vs. Predator if they ever decided to do a crossover with Star Wars.
Boba Fett !?
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I can't imagine Boba being any problem to a Predator
Quote from: SiL on Apr 20, 2024, 12:05:23 AMAliens in Star Wars would be fun.
Did you just saw that Alien getting sliced with a laser sword ! IT BROKE NEW GROUND !!!
I'll check this out, the creative time gives me confidence and so does the fact they didn't rush into these crossovers. Did anyone catch this bit on the Marvel press release?
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The four-part epic is set in a new timeline many years in the future and features older, grittier versions of Marvel characters. It also will be the first-time readers will see certain parts of Alien lore in the Marvel Universe—like the home of the Engineers. In this unmissable series, Xenomorphs reach Earth, and the perfect organism meets a planet of superhumans. But who will be first to fall?
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/aliens-vs-avengers-jonathan-hickman-esad-ribic (https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/aliens-vs-avengers-jonathan-hickman-esad-ribic)
A bit sad it's in a crossover comic but given we'll probably never see it on film I'll take it.
Really? Multitudes of Alien novels, comics, and sourcebooks, and it's
this that gives us a look at
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the Engineer homeworld?
Seriously?
Haha lol
Quote from: SiL on Apr 19, 2024, 10:38:06 PMAliens vs XMen if they go full Kenner would at least be ridiculous fun.
Aliens Versus X-Men featuring the Brood, might be really funny.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 20, 2024, 06:01:27 PMReally? Multitudes of Alien novels, comics, and sourcebooks, and it's this that gives us a look at
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the Engineer homeworld?
Seriously?
You mean the one we saw in Covenant?
I'm guessing the RPG retconned that.
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Glad that it's retconned. Like what a way to reveal the Engineer Homeworld if it was the actual one in Covenant, just decimated and never truly explored. An actual waste of lore.
I said I'm guessing, I have no idea.
Not that it matters what the RPG says.
The alien RPG is my Bible now. Everybody who says anything against will be label as a heretic and be crucified.
Then nail me up.
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 21, 2024, 12:26:14 AMThe alien RPG is my Bible now. Everybody who says anything against will be label as a heretic and be crucified.
Didn't the RPG say that Weyland-Yutani owns the USCM?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 21, 2024, 02:58:02 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 21, 2024, 12:26:14 AMThe alien RPG is my Bible now. Everybody who says anything against will be label as a heretic and be crucified.
Didn't the RPG say that Weyland-Yutani owns the USCM?
I don't really care about But I care more about the lore they gave the xenomorph
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 21, 2024, 02:58:02 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 21, 2024, 12:26:14 AMThe alien RPG is my Bible now. Everybody who says anything against will be label as a heretic and be crucified.
Didn't the RPG say that Weyland-Yutani owns the USCM?
More or less. Another shite bit of RPG "lore".
You should decanonize it.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 21, 2024, 12:45:31 AMThen nail me up.
I'll give you a faith worse than Being crucified on a cross. I'll give you this
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Don't take this seriously, it a joke
>:(
The movies: WY had defence contracts with the military.
Every f**king piece of EU: WY oWnS thE UScM
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 21, 2024, 12:26:14 AMThe alien RPG is my Bible now. Everybody who says anything against will be label as a heretic and be crucified.
That's martyr in the making
Quote from: SiL on Apr 21, 2024, 03:36:15 AMThe movies: WY had defence contracts with the military.
Every f**king piece of EU: WY oWnS thE UScM
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 21, 2024, 02:58:02 AMDidn't the RPG say that Weyland-Yutani owns the USCM?
No. Weyland-Yutani backs up the Royal Marines.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 21, 2024, 03:36:15 AMThe movies: WY had defence contracts with the military.
Every f**king piece of EU: WY oWnS thE UScM
Never played
Fireteam Elite, then?
Are we not doing hyperbole anymore?
Quote from: SiL on Apr 21, 2024, 08:57:42 AMAre we not doing hyperbole anymore?
You certainly are, if you're saying
every EU source states that W-Y owns the USCM. To my recollection, only two sources say that -
Sea of Sorrows and the
Augmented Reality Survival Manual. Both are written from the dystopian post-Resurrection timeframe in which W-Y really
does own everything and, furthermore, the latter is non-canon.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 21, 2024, 09:07:40 AMYou certainly are, if you're saying every EU source states that W-Y owns the USCM.
Yes that's my point.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 21, 2024, 09:14:00 AMYes that's my point.
Well, it's hyperbolic. And inaccurate. Weyland-Yutani occasionally co-opts the USCM to protect its interests, but the Royal Marines are the main military force it supports.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 21, 2024, 09:14:00 AMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 21, 2024, 09:07:40 AMYou certainly are, if you're saying every EU source states that W-Y owns the USCM.
Yes that's my point.
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RPG says USCM is co-financed by WY.
Quote from: SM on Apr 21, 2024, 09:31:40 AMRPG says USCM is co-financed by WY.
The RPG says that the USCM is NOT controlled by W-Y, but W-Y's business interests with the United Americas Allied Command mean that W-Y can call in the Marines if needed.
It does own the military manufacturers UA Northridge and Lunnar-Welsun, though.
"...the USCMC can also be activated as a corporate security force tasked with protecting short-term company interests."
"In layman's terms, ... sometimes [the USCM is] just Weyland-Yutani's bitch."
More RPG wanklore.
Why does SM despise the RPG so much? Lmao
I despise the dumb shit they did with some of the lore which then proliferates into other media. The storylines for the adventures that they come up with are generally pretty good.
Best thing is the awesome art.
Disclaimer- some people working on it f**ked me over too. Might have something to do with it.
Something to laugh your ass off too if you wish.
Quote from: SM on Apr 21, 2024, 10:48:27 AM"...the USCMC can also be activated as a corporate security force tasked with protecting short-term company interests."
"In layman's terms, ... sometimes [the USCM is] just Weyland-Yutani's bitch."
More RPG wanklore.
Do these people not watch the movies.
Aliens is built on this explicitly not being the case.
That from the initial source book or one of the later ones?
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 21, 2024, 12:04:42 PMThat from the initial source book or one of the later ones?
The main RPG book and the CMOM.
The CMOM also mentions that the USCM intervened on Weyland-Yutani's behalf during its silent war with the Globe Corporation.
If they're gonna keep doing these 20th Century Fox Studios/Marvel crossovers, wake me up when we get "Captain America on the Planet of the Apes" with him being frozen during WWII and then being thawed out in the distant future with the Apes now having inherited the Earth.
Oh damn I didn't know I wanted that.
I think that's one of my little quibbles with this Avengers vs Aliens one... the two battling parties don't really feel specific enough to one another in the way that Cap/PotA or even Predator/Wolverine do.
I would have thought that Aliens would have led off with a Marvel crossover pitting them against either the Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain Marvel (I know she's in the Avengers one we're getting, but something with her standalone as more of a Ripley-esque final girl in space [pretty sure this Avengers one is on Earth] would feel a bit more thematically appropriate than the Avengers on the whole).
Yeah, I get that. It makes about as much sense as Superman fighting Aliens (or even the Predator, although I did like the art in that one).
Quote from: SM on Apr 21, 2024, 10:48:27 AM"...the USCMC can also be activated as a corporate security force tasked with protecting short-term company interests."
"In layman's terms, ... sometimes [the USCM is] just Weyland-Yutani's bitch."
More RPG wanklore.
You sir, just highlighted one of my main issues with the RPG and how dumb it actually is. I can appreciate the RPG itself but it's strictly just that to me.. a game.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 21, 2024, 09:50:33 PMI think that's one of my little quibbles with this Avengers vs Aliens one... the two battling parties don't really feel specific enough to one another in the way that Cap/PotA or even Predator/Wolverine do.
Pretty much the way I feel. I wouldn't have been thrilled with AvGOTG, but at least it would have felt like somebody thought about it for more than three seconds.
Honestly, this article (https://jacobin.com/2021/12/disney-mass-culture-commodification-tv-movie-franchises) sums up how I feel about the whole thing.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 21, 2024, 09:15:13 PMIf they're gonna keep doing these 20th Century Fox Studios/Marvel crossovers, wake me up when we get "Captain America on the Planet of the Apes" with him being frozen during WWII and then being thawed out in the distant future with the Apes now having inherited the Earth.
that feels like a no brainer
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 21, 2024, 09:50:33 PMI think that's one of my little quibbles with this Avengers vs Aliens one... the two battling parties don't really feel specific enough to one another in the way that Cap/PotA or even Predator/Wolverine do.
I would have thought that Aliens would have led off with a Marvel crossover pitting them against either the Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain Marvel (I know she's in the Avengers one we're getting, but something with her standalone as more of a Ripley-esque final girl in space [pretty sure this Avengers one is on Earth] would feel a bit more thematically appropriate than the Avengers on the whole).
I think it really depends for this on what rooster hickman uses for the avengers is it gunna be mostly mcu tony cap carol black panther ? or is it gunna be wild with different members ? Also even know its a AU how close are they gunna be to the current status quo : Tony being married to Emma frost , Thor being Gaia's Son , Natasha having a simbiote (widow) Spider-man being a cuck loser, And is Hickman gunna use his Pet THE MAKER (evil Reed Richards ) Anywhere in this
Iron Man, Captain America, and Captain Marvel are all confirmed, via the cover. Looks like pretty traditional iterations of them, as far as I can tell. Beyond that, jury's out, I guess.
Hopefully it will be revealed that it was a late April Fool's joke, and the real comic is a manga brimming with 80s synthwave atmosphere 8)
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Of all the crossovers we never got, I was amazed at the lack of Alien/Species when Dark Horse had both. Not so much as a "Vs" but rather the Sil type hybrids being another bio weapon like the neomorph. The fact that Species II features black goo making victims undergo metamorphosis into a violent Gigeresque creature bent on sexual reproduction seems a totally missed opportunity for an Alien-universe crossover to me.
I bet SiL never quite got over that either.
We never got a RoboCop crossover either (not sure that was Dark Horse though).
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Apr 23, 2024, 12:06:09 AMOf all the crossovers we never got, I was amazed at the lack of Alien/Species when Dark Horse had both. Not so much as a "Vs" but rather the Sil type hybrids being another bio weapon like the neomorph. The fact that Species II features black goo making victims undergo metamorphosis into a violent Gigeresque creature bent on sexual reproduction seems a totally missed opportunity for an Alien-universe crossover to me.
Didn't know that was something I wanted until right now. Wtf
I need check out the Species series. Only seen the first one (when I was way too young to be watching it lol)
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Apr 23, 2024, 02:39:51 PMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on Apr 23, 2024, 12:06:09 AMOf all the crossovers we never got, I was amazed at the lack of Alien/Species when Dark Horse had both. Not so much as a "Vs" but rather the Sil type hybrids being another bio weapon like the neomorph. The fact that Species II features black goo making victims undergo metamorphosis into a violent Gigeresque creature bent on sexual reproduction seems a totally missed opportunity for an Alien-universe crossover to me.
Didn't know that was something I wanted until right now. Wtf
I need check out the Species series. Only seen the first one (when I was way too young to be watching it lol)
There's only the first and second movie worth watching (imo).. I turned off Species 3 around 15mins in, and never bothered with the 4th (they went straight-to-video B-movies from 3 onwards) but I love the first two! 😃
Is it just me, or is this a terrible idea?
Aliens vs Predator made sense, but this sounds crap.
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Apr 25, 2024, 08:20:17 AMIs it just me, or is this a terrible idea?
Aliens vs Predator made sense, but this sounds crap.
It's not just you.
It doesn't make much sense beyond marquee value.
https://twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/1783977006365122987
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Apr 25, 2024, 08:20:17 AMIs it just me, or is this a terrible idea?
Aliens vs Predator made sense, but this sounds crap.
It does. In my version of this matchup the Avengers get facehugged to full burst. The stragglers have their skin burned off from the acid and then cut to ribbons with the Alien's claws.
So honestly, I eyerolled a little at the initial reaction to this crossover but then I got down off my high horse. It wasn't until about 7/8 years ago that I personally turned around on the crossovers after revisiting the Batman/Aliens stuff and I opened up to them. You just can't take them too seriously.
But there have been some genuinely entertaining and good crossovers. I thought they did a fantastic job with Predator vs Wolverine and I'm very keen to see where they take Aliens vs. Avengers (also Marvel's first Aliens title?) I like the sounds of the aged superheroes. I'm also curious to see them go full Kenner with this too. I just hope it's pretty too!
The What if? Burke thing has Aliens branding too.
I stand corrected.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 03, 2024, 08:44:16 AMI stand corrected.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/comicgeeks/comics/covers/large-2677340.jpg?1712619698) you forgot this one too. 😁
Another crossover I think would have been fun would have been Aliens/Halo.
Finding ovomorphs on a Halo ring having been studied by the Forerunners (as per the flood); imagine how full-Kenner you could go with that one, with the xeno variants burst from hosts of various Covenant species (or even Flood-xenos) - UNSC tech isn't that far removed aesthetically from USCM; could be a visually beautiful comic book.
I think that's my biggest gripe with the superhero crossovers like Superman vs Aliens and AVA etc... it's not the idea of crossovers that are the issue, I think it's more finding the *appropriate* crossovers.
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 03, 2024, 01:23:09 PMhosts of various Covenant species
Covenant means something different here!
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 03, 2024, 01:23:09 PMI think that's my biggest gripe with the superhero crossovers like Superman vs Aliens and AVA etc... it's not the idea of crossovers that are the issue, I think it's more finding the *appropriate* crossovers.
Hear hear.
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 03, 2024, 12:59:40 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 03, 2024, 08:44:16 AMI stand corrected.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/comicgeeks/comics/covers/large-2677340.jpg?1712619698 you forgot this one too. 😁
It deserves to be forgotten.
Quote from: SM on May 03, 2024, 02:00:47 PMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on May 03, 2024, 12:59:40 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 03, 2024, 08:44:16 AMI stand corrected.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/comicgeeks/comics/covers/large-2677340.jpg?1712619698 you forgot this one too. 😁
It deserves to be forgotten.
Can't deny that 🤣