Would you feel better if Newt and Hicks survived?

Started by Kradan, Feb 10, 2019, 08:15:19 AM

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Would you feel better if Newt and Hicks survived? (Read 30,744 times)

The Old One

The Old One

#225
No @OP.

Yes, it's a good film regardless.

[cancerblack]

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 15, 2019, 08:15:48 AM
Always thought Hicks and Newt had served their purpose, story-wise. Plus, as others have said, the idea of the three of them becoming some kind of family unit pitted against the Aliens always struck me as pretty cringey, so I'm really glad they at least negated that.

Maybe I'm a nihilist, but to be honest, I always appreciated the balls the third film had in killing off all of its main characters, even if the execution was flawed. It certainly makes it stand out among big franchise movies, where anyone important is almost invariably protected by plot armour.


High quality post right here

Roby

The fact they die isn't the problem, more that it seemed they were just being killed off because they weren't useful in the story. (Or that the actors weren't available). Seemed more of a technical thing than story thing.

Huggs

They didn't know an alien bigger than a powerloader had snuck aboard until it started attacking everyone.

That even a face hugger went unnoticed, is no surprise.

Regardless, they had to croak. The Alien universe cannot tolerate happiness. Fischer was wise enough to know and support this.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 01:29:04 AM
The Alien universe cannot tolerate happiness.

Happiness is not synonymous with Hick's and Newt's survival.

Huggs

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2019, 01:56:15 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 01:29:04 AM
The Alien universe cannot tolerate happiness.

Happiness is not synonymous with Hick's and Newt's survival.

It is for Ripley.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 02:01:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2019, 01:56:15 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 01:29:04 AM
The Alien universe cannot tolerate happiness.

Happiness is not synonymous with Hick's and Newt's survival.

It is for Ripley.

Death is easier when you have no one to live for.

Huggs

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2019, 02:04:40 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 02:01:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2019, 01:56:15 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 01:29:04 AM
The Alien universe cannot tolerate happiness.

Happiness is not synonymous with Hick's and Newt's survival.

It is for Ripley.

Death is easier when you have no one to live for.

There's always Christmas and Italian food.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 02:07:08 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2019, 02:04:40 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 02:01:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2019, 01:56:15 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 01:29:04 AM
The Alien universe cannot tolerate happiness.

Happiness is not synonymous with Hick's and Newt's survival.

It is for Ripley.

Death is easier when you have no one to live for.

There's always Christmas and Italian food.

Linguini in clam sauce does make a life worth living!

The Old One

The Old One

#234
Again,

Quote from: The Old One on Mar 19, 2019, 03:35:46 PM
If Dwayne Hicks and Rebecca Jorden (Newt)'s alive- Ripley's personal attachment  renders the sacrifice simple, save the family. But dead and the comfort's absent.

Ellen Ripley allowing the Company the Alien is revenge. The Company's bioweapon personnel die but countless innocent people withal.

Ellen Ripley's Alien abortion is selfless.
Ellen Ripley chooses sacrifice over revenge.

It's difficult to do the right thing when you've something to fight for.
It's more difficult to do the right thing when you've nothing to fight for.

Revenge is a emotional pursuit.
Ellen Ripley's clearly emotional.

The hellish beast is a hellish beast, but it's irrelevance is because the Company is the real world and Ellen Ripley's fictional world; vortex.
It's responsible for the Nostromo's investigation- beginning it all.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: The Old One on Apr 28, 2019, 02:33:25 AM
Again,

Quote from: The Old One on Mar 19, 2019, 03:35:46 PM
If Dwayne Hicks and Rebecca Jorden (Newt)'s alive- Ripley's personal attachment  renders the sacrifice simple, save the family. But dead and the comfort's absent.

Ellen Ripley allowing the Company the Alien is revenge. The Company's bioweapon personnel die but countless innocent people withal.

Ellen Ripley's Alien abortion is selfless.
Ellen Ripley chooses sacrifice over revenge.

It's difficult to do the right thing when you've something to fight for.
It's more difficult to do the right thing when you've nothing to fight for.

I can repost my reply to your repost, but why do that when we can just group hug?  ;D


HuDaFuK

Quote from: Roby on Apr 28, 2019, 12:42:52 AMSeemed more of a technical thing than story thing.

The fact they were dead in all but one of the various scripts written for the third film suggests it wasn't merely technical.

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2019, 02:10:28 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 02:07:08 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2019, 02:04:40 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 02:01:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2019, 01:56:15 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 01:29:04 AM
The Alien universe cannot tolerate happiness.

Happiness is not synonymous with Hick's and Newt's survival.

It is for Ripley.

Death is easier when you have no one to live for.

There's always Christmas and Italian food.

Linguini in clam sauce does make a life worth living!

Come-on gents, let's refrain from doing this often. There's so much derailing lately.

Stitch

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 28, 2019, 10:42:21 AM
Quote from: Roby on Apr 28, 2019, 12:42:52 AMSeemed more of a technical thing than story thing.

The fact they were dead in all but one of the various scripts written for the third film suggests it wasn't merely technical.
Yeah. It makes sense. Scary isn't scary when you have company. It's why co-op horror games don't work. Alien Isolation with a friend would be way less tense.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Stitch on Apr 28, 2019, 09:28:37 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 28, 2019, 10:42:21 AM
Quote from: Roby on Apr 28, 2019, 12:42:52 AMSeemed more of a technical thing than story thing.

The fact they were dead in all but one of the various scripts written for the third film suggests it wasn't merely technical.
Yeah. It makes sense. Scary isn't scary when you have company. It's why co-op horror games don't work. Alien Isolation with a friend would be way less tense.

Yet Ripley had plenty of company.

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