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Posted by Gash
 - Oct 05, 2015, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 05, 2015, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Gash on Oct 04, 2015, 11:22:41 PM
Fair enough, but in my view Alien always being tied to the character of Ripley is dull, and at this stage seems regressive and repetitive. It's just another element that makes the project look like fan-boy material.

Makes it a lot easier to sell to executives if Weaver wants to be involved.


Well precisely, and we know how inspired and imaginative execs are. They're looking for the formulaic.
Posted by Xenomorphine
 - Oct 05, 2015, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Gash on Oct 04, 2015, 11:22:41 PM
Fair enough, but in my view Alien always being tied to the character of Ripley is dull, and at this stage seems regressive and repetitive. It's just another element that makes the project look like fan-boy material.

Makes it a lot easier to sell to executives if Weaver wants to be involved.
Posted by Gash
 - Oct 04, 2015, 11:22:41 PM
Fair enough, but in my view Alien always being tied to the character of Ripley is dull, and at this stage seems regressive and repetitive. It's just another element that makes the project look like fan-boy material.
Posted by Xenomorphine
 - Oct 04, 2015, 08:11:29 PM
From what I remember, he had already written a basic story and it was talking to Weaver which convinced him to put her character in it. So, Ripley's inclusion won't be the bare bones of the story's structure. It'll be something which could have happened regardless of that character.

There was no 'resorting', just a fortuitous coincidence that she was interested.
Posted by Gash
 - Oct 03, 2015, 04:35:19 PM
Alien 5 might work. But Blomkamp is an uneven director who already seems constrained by repetative themes in his films, and any Alien film that has to resort to binging Ripley back, let alone any of her Aliens co-stars, doesn't instill a great deal of confidence in me.
Posted by redalert51
 - Oct 03, 2015, 06:36:05 AM
BLOMKAMP is a good director and average writer, (there hundreds of directors that are just good, but they are the ones with "Blockbusters )   I really enjoyed his previous films especially " Elysium" , it  has been a 'Dream team of Scott and Cameron , by a lot Alien fans, myself included. Alien and Aliens are superb classics , What the fifth film needs is a new writer with a fresh perspective, Ridley Scott has said on various sound bites ,that the  Alien is is not the frightening creature it once was. I disagree myself . I envision the three of them having dinner at some high end restaurant with Cameron and Scott giving advice to Blomkamp (he as to pay the check } . In end though , " Alien 5" will be superb .                     
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Oct 02, 2015, 08:13:24 AM
Quote from: GQSioux on Oct 01, 2015, 08:36:56 PM
I said this in another thread, but after witnessing The Martian, I think Ridley should at least consult with Drew Goddard (The Martian, Cabin in the Woods, Lost, Cloverfield)  on the Alien: Paradise Lost screenplay since they just worked together and already have a winner on their hands.

I agree completely. Ridley needs talented people around him who understand their vision and their craft. It all worked for The Martian.

Quote from: Alien³ on Oct 01, 2015, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: NickisSmart on Aug 24, 2015, 07:55:11 PM
That's my point. Is whatever the film is advertised as, it needs to be. I think a lot of people were disappointed with Prometheus because it wasn't what it was advertised as.

Was I the only one who thought the trailers fit fine? :-\

I didn't think they fit. The trailer advertised a cerebral horror film. The film I got was a mess.  :-\
Posted by Perfect-Organism
 - Oct 02, 2015, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: Alien³ on Oct 01, 2015, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: NickisSmart on Aug 24, 2015, 07:55:11 PM
That's my point. Is whatever the film is advertised as, it needs to be. I think a lot of people were disappointed with Prometheus because it wasn't what it was advertised as.

Was I the only one who thought the trailers fit fine? :-\

No, I'm with you on this one.  The movie was a great fulfillment of the ads.
Posted by Alien³
 - Oct 01, 2015, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: NickisSmart on Aug 24, 2015, 07:55:11 PM
That's my point. Is whatever the film is advertised as, it needs to be. I think a lot of people were disappointed with Prometheus because it wasn't what it was advertised as.

Was I the only one who thought the trailers fit fine? :-\
Posted by GQSioux
 - Oct 01, 2015, 08:36:56 PM
I said this in another thread, but after witnessing The Martian, I think Ridley should at least consult with Drew Goddard (The Martian, Cabin in the Woods, Lost, Cloverfield)  on the Alien: Paradise Lost screenplay since they just worked together and already have a winner on their hands.
Posted by Gash
 - Oct 01, 2015, 12:46:02 AM
Can't say I rate any of Cameron's script writing efforts, so his involvement wouldn't add anything for me.
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Sep 25, 2015, 08:39:34 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 12, 2015, 08:21:49 PMI still maintain that if Anderson had been in 'Event Horizon' mindset, instead of 'Resident Evil' mindset, the same basic story could have been presented in a much more atmospheric and chilling way.

This.

There were things I liked in the first AVP. It was just killed off by the child-friendly tone. Well, and the fact they set it on Earth in the present.
Posted by Jarac
 - Sep 25, 2015, 01:22:15 AM
I definitely think they should, especially since Blompkamp seems to want to continue from Aliens. Just consult Cameron on some ideas, some of the plot/themes and use what you want from that.
Posted by System Apollo
 - Sep 12, 2015, 11:11:56 PM
Quote from: NickisSmart on Sep 12, 2015, 09:04:41 PM
Event Horizon wasn't terrible. For what it was, I enjoyed it, largely because it succeeded at being something appropriate for the genre. It felt at home. Resident Evil wasn't the Gothic/Survival Horror film it should've been, and thus felt like it was having an identity crisis, and missing some important context in regards to the source material; AVP was far too truncated and accelerated for it's own good, and also didn't seem to understand the film(s) made before it. Though perhaps I should scrutinize the Dark Horse graphic novels, instead, but coming at AVP purely from a moviegoer's perspective, I feel as though the homage the film should have been paying to the classics was sorely lacking.

That being said, I wouldn't have cared had it been well-made. Alas, for a film called Aliens versus Predator, there was very little actual combat. I liked these parts, more or less, but there wasn't nearly enough of it to justify the other 70-or-so minutes of boring human characters. There was little in the way of memorable suspense, dialogue or character interactions.

1. The comic book homage was good. The characters were just too weak because very little went into them probably because of the time spent trying to execute the conflict... Besides, establishing new ground with AvP by paying homage to the previous installments sounds rather wasteful... I mean look at what it did to Predators.

2. There was very little of everything. I wouldn't have expected that the fight scenes would be above average.

3. I agree, this buried the concept completely.  Essentially it was a good idea but it was just executed so poorly.
Posted by NickisSmart
 - Sep 12, 2015, 09:04:41 PM
Event Horizon wasn't terrible. For what it was, I enjoyed it, largely because it succeeded at being something appropriate for the genre. It felt at home. Resident Evil wasn't the Gothic/Survival Horror film it should've been, and thus felt like it was having an identity crisis, and missing some important context in regards to the source material; AVP was far too truncated and accelerated for it's own good, and also didn't seem to understand the film(s) made before it. Though perhaps I should scrutinize the Dark Horse graphic novels, instead, but coming at AVP purely from a moviegoer's perspective, I feel as though the homage the film should have been paying to the classics was sorely lacking.

That being said, I wouldn't have cared had it been well-made. Alas, for a film called Aliens versus Predator, there was very little actual combat. I liked these parts, more or less, but there wasn't nearly enough of it to justify the other 70-or-so minutes of boring human characters. There was little in the way of memorable suspense, dialogue or character interactions.
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