Dubstep though? What is this, 2012? :laugh:
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04/21/predator-hunting-grounds-the-hunt-begins-this-friday/
There's also a link to the updates/patch notes they've made after gathering feedback from the trial:
Quote from: IllfonicWe are sending a huge thank you to the entire community for joining us over Trial Weekend. We loved seeing everyone have a blast in the hunt. And even more, we are so grateful for the feedback we received on our social media channels and in our forums. We read every single comment. Below you will find the patch notes regarding updates we have made since the trial. This is not the end of updates for Predator: Hunting Grounds. You will continue to find updates over the months ahead with details here on the forums and on social media. We look forward to seeing you in the hunt on April 24th!
General:
We are continuing to work on optimizations across all parts of the game, including the areas of AI and UI.
Made improvements to the movement, positioning, and combat for AI.
The game now ends if all Fireteam members leave the match.
Fixed an issue where items may sometimes still appear as locked after being purchased.
Added markers onto the relic crates when Fireteam members are nearby so that the mission objective is more easily identifiable.
Reduced the amount of Fireteam "crazy eyes'' in the menus.
Improved new item notifications for the customization screen.
Made improvements and fixed various bugs that would occur in the tutorial.
Made improvements and bug fixes to all the infil, victory, and defeat cinematic sequences.
Weapon wheel is now using the same order as the HUD icons.
Added a sensitivity setting for ADS.
[PC] Fixed mouse inversion.
[PC] Added advanced video settings in the options menu.
[PC] Moved the Keyboard/Mouse Mapping to the Options menu to make it easier to find.
Maps:
Overgrowth:
Made adjustments to some areas that could cause the player to get stuck when jumping in between certain rocks or trees.
Made adjustments to the collision boxes of various objects around the map.
Moved some of the interactable items around so they're easier to interact with.
Fireteam:
General:
Infil locations are now chosen based on the mission.
Adjusted the amount of times you can spot before you hit a cooldown.
Scoreboard now only shows you as dead if you're actually dead, not previously killed in a match.
Quick gear swapping controls are now shown on the screen.
Reduced the radius of spotting.
Reduced the amount of time Predator remains spotted.
Reduced the amount of interaction speed that you gain from the perk Dexterous.
Reduced the amount of time the player is required to stay in the reinforcement zone before it is activated.
Mudding up no longer causes you to put mud INSIDE the scope.
Increased difficulty in defusing the Self Destruct puzzle.
Made the defuse button for Predator Self Destruct sequence easier to interact with.
Fixed a bug where mudding up animation would sometimes not play.
Weapons:
Assault Rifles:
Burst firing mode on the assault rifles is temporarily disabled.
DJL-33:
Increased the spread.
Lowered the damage per pellet.
CS-12:
Increased the damage per pellet.
S-R3D:
Reduced the close range damage.
Reduced the amount of time for spin up to finish.
Lowered the amount of ammo received from ammo bags.
D34-D:
Increased the proximity damage to self.
Reduced the blast damage.
Reduced the blast radius.
Reduced the explosion VFX.
Increased the reload time.
Fixed an issue where the grenade trails would sometimes not appear.
Knife:
Made improvements to the attacking and sprinting animations with the knife.
Gear
Field Syrette:
Reduced the rate of healing (overall heal amount unchanged).
Predator
General:
Target Isolation no longer starts at 100% at the start of the match.
Pounce slam damage raised.
Self Destruct sequence now takes less time to arm.
While eating a dead boar, the Predator now has the option to toggle cloak/vision modes or cancel the eating process.
Can no longer accidentally cancel Target Isolation by double tapping the button.
Added polish to the animation and movement for the Predator while traversing trees.
The Predator is now able to switch weapons while transitioning in Predkour.
Fixed a bug where blood would not apply to the mask when damaged.
Fixed a bug where Second Wind or Self Destruct would not function as intended if activated while controlling the Smart Disc.
Fixed a bug where the weapon wheel would continue to stay on the screen if active when the Predator enters Second Wind.
Weapons:
Combistick:
Reduced the damage to the first and third strike combo.
Smart Disc:
Smart disc controls are no longer inverted by default.
General flight of the smart disc feels better.
Fixed a bug where the Smart Disc would sometimes not fly properly when aiming straight down.
Fixed a bug where the Smart Disc would sometimes cause the player to be unable to switch their weapon.
Fixed a bug that caused the Predator to be completely invisible after throwing the Smart Disc while stealthed.
Gear:
Bear Trap:
Made adjustments to the interaction button on the Bear Trap to prevent Fireteam members from being unable to interact with activated Bear Traps.
Sound and VOIP:
Updated Predator walking/running footstep sound attenuation to make the Predator stealthier.
Voice Mic Mute is no longer enabled by default.
Automatic gun sounds are now more consistent.
Improved music playback inconsistency.
Fixed a bug where the sound of the Predator leaping nearby was not playing.
Fixed a bug where the audio of downed Fireteam members calling for help was not playing.
Matchmaking/Parties:
Crossplay is now enabled by default.
Optimized matchmaking queue times, we will continue to monitor.
Added Matchmaking average time estimates displayed next to each queue.
Matchmaking status is now visible when navigating different menus.
Fixed bug with the waiting for player screen not showing connecting players for Fireteam.
Fixed a rare initial connection timeout bug when experiencing packet loss.
[PC] Fixed an issue where accepting and sending invites would not work with the controller.
[PC] Fixed an issue where players would be unable to rejoin the same party after leaving it.
[PC] Fixed an issue with party members getting into the server together.
Did they fix the tutorial? :P
Quote from: molasar on Apr 21, 2020, 02:46:48 PM
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04/21/predator-hunting-grounds-the-hunt-begins-this-friday/
"crossplay is now enabled by default"
I feel a great disturbance in the Force. As if millions of console voices cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced by gunfire. I fear something terrible will happen.
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 21, 2020, 01:59:13 PM
I'd almost be happier if he wasn't in it, since that would mean there's some other Predator game out there in development we don't know about yet.
Ah, good point!!
Quote from: molasar on Apr 21, 2020, 02:40:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDdoKu4YWoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG8WUSnGrqQ
Mole-Star does it again!!! Nice!!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 21, 2020, 02:59:48 PM
Mole-Star does it again!!! Nice!!
Just had some luck posting it first.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 21, 2020, 02:59:48 PM
Did they fix the tutorial? :P
The patch notes say they've fixed tutorial bugs, so hopefully.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 21, 2020, 02:59:48 PM"crossplay is now enabled by default"
I feel a great disturbance in the Force. As if millions of console voices cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced by gunfire. I fear something terrible will happen.
I saw reports recently that console players of CoD's Warzone mode were turning off crossplay because they kept running into PC players with hacks and aim bots, which was sadly always going to happen to any FPS with console/PC crossplay.
Here's hoping that this game will mostly fly under the radar of the cheaters, but yeah if I start seeing people pulling some really suspect moves over and over again I'll definitely turn it off and keep it that way.
Otherwise there are some good changes there, including some I was hoping to see after playing the beta.
I guess no longer being able to choose our spawn points as the fire team isn't such a big deal if it's done by mission, since there were definitely times when we had to run for ages before getting to where we had to go. And since there were
tons of different missions it should still keep things unpredictable for the Predator.
BAD ASS!
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Quote from: Kailem on Apr 21, 2020, 03:17:42 PM
I guess no longer being able to choose our spawn points as the fire team isn't such a big deal if it's done by mission, since there were definitely times when we had to run for ages before getting to where we had to go. And since there were tons of different missions it should still keep things unpredictable for the Predator.
Maybe it was just the limited trial missions but if you remember I kept wondering why mission points weren't near the lake or the gigantic satellite dishes - hiding some beautiful aspects of the map. Forcing us to spawn there from time to time at least will definitely change it up and allow the fire team to take in the scenery as we hustle to our mission objectives.
Yeah and it'll also cut down on always spawning at the same place if too many people end up not picking anywhere or deciding they have a favourite.
Glad they're buffing the pounce slam damage too. That thing was straight-up garbagio on the trial, especially when the trade-off was that it overloaded your energy. The combistick nerf will be good in that it should help cut down on the amount of people who just did nothing but jump in and spam with it, but I guess we'll see how it ends up comparing to the other weapons once we get our hands on all of them, since there were still two other melee weapons we never got to use in the elder sword and the war club (and the description of the plasma pistol made it sound like a close-quarters shotgun-type weapon too).
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/predator-hunting-grounds/digital-deluxe-edition
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No mini art book.
Quote from: molasar on Apr 21, 2020, 02:40:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDdoKu4YWoM
Oh damn, did they improve the netting animation?!
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 21, 2020, 02:43:17 PM
Dubstep though? What is this, 2012? :laugh:
Yeah, not really a fan but to each their own.
Quote from: molasar on Apr 21, 2020, 02:46:48 PM
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04/21/predator-hunting-grounds-the-hunt-begins-this-friday/
QuoteWe made the diffuse button for the Predator Self Destruct sequence easier to interact with. However, there is an increased difficulty with the Self Destruct puzzle.
You could diffuse the self destruct?!
Looks great. I like how the mask can be destroyed. I hope there is option to remove it or play without it from the start.
It looks like they have focused on fixing the balancing issues, performance issues, and matchmaking issues.
However, there are still some things left unanswered.
I noticed that only the Overgrown map is mentioned. Is this the only map? Are there different versions of this map?
And of course, talk of new content coming soon after the game's release. That's good. I can't wait to see what their "roadmap" will look lIike. Hopefully, more maps added, new classes, extra gameplay modes (possibly an offline option), and other stuff. :)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 21, 2020, 05:33:53 PM
QuoteWe made the diffuse button for the Predator Self Destruct sequence easier to interact with. However, there is an increased difficulty with the Self Destruct puzzle.
You could diffuse the self destruct?!
Yep. Go to the 6:15 Mark.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 21, 2020, 05:33:53 PMQuoteWe made the diffuse button for the Predator Self Destruct sequence easier to interact with. However, there is an increased difficulty with the Self Destruct puzzle.
You could diffuse the self destruct?!
Yup. I didn't know about it either until I saw an interact icon on a downed Predator one time and it brought up the defuse mini-game.
Basically if you kill the Predator before he can arm his self-destruct, you're good. But if he managed to arm it and
then you kill him, you can try to defuse it by interacting with the prompt that appears on his body, then matching four Predator language symbols in a row before it explodes.
Making the prompt easier to interact with is definitely a good thing because there was at least one instance where I got blown up because it took too long for the prompt to appear. And making the mini-game itself more difficult is equally good because once you got the hang of it you could defuse it pretty easily, so this should make it a bit more of a risky thing to do.
Quote from: Wurd77 on Apr 21, 2020, 06:12:56 PMI noticed that only the Overgrown map is mentioned. Is this the only map? Are there different versions of this map?
There were three maps in the trial, Overgrown, Derailed and Backwater, but we don't know if there are going to be any more in the full game.
The bad thing is, like you said, they only mentioned Overgrown getting the "stuck in place" fixes when it happened to me once on Derailed too, so it's by no means the only map that could happen on.
What's the name for the community page on PS4??
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 21, 2020, 06:19:19 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 21, 2020, 05:33:53 PMQuoteWe made the diffuse button for the Predator Self Destruct sequence easier to interact with. However, there is an increased difficulty with the Self Destruct puzzle.
You could diffuse the self destruct?!
Yup. I didn't know about it either until I saw an interact icon on a downed Predator one time and it brought up the defuse mini-game.
Basically if you kill the Predator before he can arm his self-destruct, you're good. But if he managed to arm it and then you kill him, you can try to defuse it by interacting with the prompt that appears on his body, then matching four Predator language symbols in a row before it explodes.
Making the prompt easier to interact with is definitely a good thing because there was at least one instance where I got blown up because it took too long for the prompt to appear. And making the mini-game itself more difficult is equally good because once you got the hang of it you could defuse it pretty easily, so this should make it a bit more of a risky thing to do.
Quote from: Wurd77 on Apr 21, 2020, 06:12:56 PMI noticed that only the Overgrown map is mentioned. Is this the only map? Are there different versions of this map?
There were three maps in the trial, Overgrown, Derailed and Backwater, but we don't know if there are going to be any more in the full game.
The bad thing is, like you said, they only mentioned Overgrown getting the "stuck in place" fixes when it happened to me once on Derailed too, so it's by no means the only map that could happen on.
Oh...ok. Thanks for clearing that up. :)
The thing I really want to know (and I'm sure there are others as well) is will the game offer any type of offline option or will it be strictly online only? From my "research"....all I've been able to find is....that only the Tutorial could be played offline. However, I did find an article that mentions that it was possible to play solo as the Predator or Fireteam member offline.
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/02/26/predator-hunting-grounds-gets-a-ps-and-pc-trial-weekend-27-march/
"The trial will allow you to sample this online experience, but also has the offline solo mode, where you can play alongside and against AI."Could anyone on here confirm whether this could be done or not? Or is this missinformation?
It is good they addressed some balancing issues like making the Predator less loud and tha grenade launcher andnd spotting nerfs.
Wow. It look so shitty, my mind is blown.
AvP 2010 looks better.
Quote from: Wurd77 on Apr 21, 2020, 06:32:31 PM
From my "research"....all I've been able to find is....that only the Tutorial could be played offline. However, I did find an article that mentions that it was possible to play solo as the Predator or Fireteam member offline.
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/02/26/predator-hunting-grounds-gets-a-ps-and-pc-trial-weekend-27-march/
"The trial will allow you to sample this online experience, but also has the offline solo mode, where you can play alongside and against AI."
Could anyone on here confirm whether this could be done or not? Or is this missinformation?
In the trial you could create a private match and start it without other players, but there is no AI replacing them. You just deal with enemy soldiers.
Quote from: Devilock on Apr 21, 2020, 08:43:53 PM
Wow. It look so shitty, my mind is blown.
AvP 2010 looks better.
In your dreams.
The game has promise but It definitely needs some more work. The human animations, hud and graphics need improving. We'll see where it goes.
How are you able to preorder the game and get the game? Isn't GameStop closed because of the pandemic? Is amazon the only way to go? If so do y pounds get old painless and jungle hunter skin from amazon
Quote from: ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR on Apr 21, 2020, 10:15:20 PM
How are you able to preorder the game and get the game? Isn't GameStop closed because of the pandemic? Is amazon the only way to go? If so do y pounds get old painless and jungle hunter skin from amazon
I think you are still able to pre-order it from their website. Also, check their store list to see which stores are closed in your area as some of them are still open.
I pre-ordered it through the Playstation Store.
Quote from: molasar on Apr 21, 2020, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: Wurd77 on Apr 21, 2020, 06:32:31 PM
From my "research"....all I've been able to find is....that only the Tutorial could be played offline. However, I did find an article that mentions that it was possible to play solo as the Predator or Fireteam member offline.
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/02/26/predator-hunting-grounds-gets-a-ps-and-pc-trial-weekend-27-march/
"The trial will allow you to sample this online experience, but also has the offline solo mode, where you can play alongside and against AI."
Could anyone on here confirm whether this could be done or not? Or is this missinformation?
In the trial you could create a private match and start it without other players, but there is no AI replacing them. You just deal with enemy soldiers.
Quote from: Devilock on Apr 21, 2020, 08:43:53 PM
Wow. It look so shitty, my mind is blown.
AvP 2010 looks better.
In your dreams.
Can you do a Private Match solo while offline? Or is it online only?
Quote from: Wurd77 on Apr 21, 2020, 11:00:05 PM
Can you do a Private Match solo while offline? Or is it online only?
Sadly I have not tried it in the trial.
It still looks awful, this is the kind of game that nobody is even gonna remember a month after launch, let alone play.
Quote from: D88M on Apr 22, 2020, 01:27:07 AM
It still looks awful, this is the kind of game that nobody is even gonna remember a month after launch, let alone play.
Somehow I am not going to follow your instructions.
I think the game looks quite good! It's very colorful, not muted browns, tans, and dull greens. It's COLORFUL with nice shadows and good art direction and lighting.
Quote from: D88M on Apr 22, 2020, 01:27:07 AM
It still looks awful, this is the kind of game that nobody is even gonna remember a month after launch, let alone play.
I'll forget this comment long before I forget this game. :P
https://twitter.com/i/status/1252774421145796609
I lost interest after the music. Also, think this is not that predator game we've been waiting for. AVP 2010 still did it the best
Quote from: littlesprout on Apr 22, 2020, 04:47:10 AM
I lost interest after the music. Also, think this is not that predator game we've been waiting for. AVP 2010 still did it the best
I agree, even with the lack of content AvP 2010 was incredible. Even by today's standards the graphics look great.
Quote from: littlesprout on Apr 22, 2020, 04:47:10 AM
Also, think this is not that predator game we've been waiting for. AVP 2010 still did it the best
Definitely I am not a part of "we" in this case and AvP(2010) did not attract me with anything when it was released.
While I love 2010 (and that game still looks damn gorgeous), I'm definitely a bigger fan of the Predkour system.
Agree!
Quote from: D88M on Apr 22, 2020, 01:27:07 AM
It still looks awful, this is the kind of game that nobody is even gonna remember a month after launch, let alone play.
Do you ever get tired of being you?
I played the trial and I have to say that Predator hunting ground is a garbage game. Extremely limited functionality, clunky game play and awful visuals. I feel lucky I got a refund for this turd. :'(
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2020, 09:20:12 AM
While I love 2010 (and that game still looks damn gorgeous), I'm definitely a bigger fan of the Predkour system.
Agreed. While I enjoyed AVP 2010, I was never a fan of the target focus jumping. Moving around had such a stuttered flow.
I did enjoy the focus mechanics. Like much of how 2010 handled, it did have a learned curve, but it became very fluid and easy to use once you knew how to. But again, I still prefer the Predkour and think it's a very natural development of the focus.
Just my take: I bet if I had played multi-player with a regular rotation of maps, terrain levels and my response to them would become second nature and ultimately resulted in a much more fluid experience and resulting opinion for me. But since I only played the campaign, every terrain and its elevations were basically new. I still had fun playing it though, but I am grateful survivability of the Predator in AvP 2010 campaign didn't require much elevated agility like Hunting Grounds seems to demand. :)
I really liked the focused jumping in AvP2010, I thought it was a great idea to make you feel a little more like a Predator. But yeah after multi and single player you do get pretty good at using it to move around more fluidly. But like much of AvP2010 it has some great ideas and mechanics that just needed more time and money to flesh it out more.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2020, 12:39:15 PM
I did enjoy the focus mechanics. Like much of how 2010 handled, it did have a learning curve, but it became very fluid and easy to use once you knew how to. But again, I still prefer the Predkour and think it's a very natural development of the focus.
I just wished we had a first-person option and fewer UI overlays. I don't like the on rails branch system of following the red trail. I would probably prefer a wall walk system similar to what we had with Aliens in previous games where you could walk/jump anywhere. (of course more limited to climbable surfaces for a predator.)
Bout my deluxe edition in February I'm ready to strap this on your SUARUS BLANE!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2020, 09:20:12 AM
While I love 2010 (and that game still looks damn gorgeous), I'm definitely a bigger fan of the Predkour system.
I really was hoping they would have a better name than 'Predkour' but oh well :)
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1253169127835009026?s=19
Was going to ask about that. I saw a couple of people here saying they'd pre-loaded it, but when I tried last night I got nothing.
Hopefully they can get it sorted out before midnight since it'd be nice to be able to dive right into it as soon as it becomes available rather than having to wait another hour or so for it to download.
You shouldn't have an issue. Mine is fully downloaded and ready to go at midnight eastern time
Yeah it seems to be sorted now.
Still debating if I'm going to play at midnight tonight and be a zombie all through work on Friday.
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I'm considering staying up too. Lol but am already tired and it's barely 9pm.
Coffee and Red Bull can only take you so far.. :D
I'm totally staying up. Don't know how long I'll end up playing it for, but I'll definitely be getting some games in tonight.
After Colonial Marines...
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I'd better pick up a PS4 then
GMTime to hunt!
I would have if the game hadn't decided to literally freeze just as I was going in for the kill on one of the last two fire team members, only to unfreeze with me basically dead, in one of the only matches where I was actually doing well.They really, really need to fix that. I had a match earlier where it was constantly freezing every few minutes, but in that one it literally cost me the game. So yeah, not the most fun opening night I've ever had with a game.
Not to mention it feels like they either stealth nerfed the melee, or the elder sword is just worthless. The amount of times I would jump in and hit someone literally about 7 times in a row with that thing only for them to keep running until their teammates arrives was ridiculous.
On the plus side the plasma caster on full charge is a monster if you can get the hit off. It really is an insta-down. Ironically I was trying to move away from using it as the trial made it clear that meleeing with the combistick was really the way to go, so I was trying to do more of those sort of attacks. But once I realised how worthless they were I started going back to ranged with the caster, which was how I really wanted to be playing all along.
But yeah, I really am starting to slowly come round to the "buff the Predator" way of thinking. At least the melee anyway. Because right now at the start of the game his only two options for it are a bit of a joke.