Anyone have any of these or suffer from them? Take any medications for them? I take 200 mg of Zoloft every day for depression and anxiety. I was also recently just diagnosed with Cyclothymic disorder which is a mood disorder in which you will feel deep depression for a couple of hours and than extreme highs or mania for a couple hours and that fluctuates constantly up and down, think of a really fast version of being bipolar but just not as bad. When your Bipolar you suffer long, long spells of depression and than long spells of mania so Cyclothymic disorder is not as bad but if you don't treat it with medication it can worsen into Bipolar disorder. Anyone else struggle with day to day depression, aniexty, social phobias or mood disorders, schizophrenia etc? I would be really happy to hear other peoples stories and struggles :) This a group discussion.
When I moved to Brisbane and got in a relationship that went sour,I had really bad anxiety. I would feel panicky about my future. As soon as I broke up with her,and left Brisbane to return to my home city I felt better but I had periods of anxiety panic attacks if I was in public for too long. If i was in a shopping center for more then a breif moment my heart would race,I would feel extremely dizzy like I was going to fall over and I had to run to the door to get out. It was scary,Its like you feel like your going to die or something if you dont leave. I hate it. I hated myself for quite a while.
Then I just made myself do it,I stayed in public for longer on purpose. I got panicky but I stayed,controlled my breathing and tried to stay calm. I eventually got over it. I still feel the anxious feeling creep on me now and then but no where near as bad as I used to have it. Now I can control it and it hasnt bothered me since. I feel,free.
Its a terrible thing to go through tho and now that i have been there and worked through it I can comfort my friends that have are going through the same thing.
I have Autism and suffer from depression and bipolar. I have a lot of trouble understanding and valuing peoples emotions, which can make me come across as very cold. I also have a lot of trouble with controlling what I say. My thoughts are very busy and it tends to spill out at random, so I end up speaking over people and changing topics at random.
At least, that's how I was most of my life. It's been such a depressing and isolating state that I never really tried to get proper help. I didn't trust psychologists or medications. Over the last year I've been on medication, currently 1gm of Risperidone and 10gm of Lexapro. It's been absolutely life changing for me.
I still say the wrong things and can spiral emotionally, but for the most part I have greater control of my thoughts. Learning social skills is going to be a huge hurdle, but the pills are an immense help.
Quote from: Sabby on Apr 12, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
I have Autism and suffer from depression and bipolar. I have a lot of trouble understanding and valuing peoples emotions, which can make me come across as very cold. I also have a lot of trouble with controlling what I say. My thoughts are very busy and it tends to spill out at random, so I end up speaking over people and changing topics at random.
At least, that's how I was most of my life. It's been such a depressing and isolating state that I never really tried to get proper help. I didn't trust psychologists or medications. Over the last year I've been on medication, currently 1gm of Risperidone and 10gm of Lexapro. It's been absolutely life changing for me.
I still say the wrong things and can spiral emotionally, but for the most part I have greater control of my thoughts. Learning social skills is going to be a huge hurdle, but the pills are an immense help.
I would agree completley!! With antidepressents you have to let them build up in your system for a number of months. Since I've been taking 200mg of Zoloft every day I feel almost no depression anymore, little aniexty and greater social freedom. I also used to take Serequil for my disorder but it made me feel like a zombie and way to tired so I stopped taking it and just stuck with my Zoloft and I felt great!
I had a depression once. For a few days, or it was about a week. I can't remember exactly. It was because of a health problem and overall "bad streak" of events that happened in very short period of time. It just passed away with the time. Actually I've spent most of that time in sleep so it wasn't that hard or challenge at all. But it made me stronger thats for sure and I've learned that if you feel bad - take a (long) nap, it will fix almost (if not) anything.
When people talk about depression, they usually just mean 'dang, I feel kind of down'. That's part of it, but... it can be pretty friggen crippling. Vanilla blahness is one thing, but there are times where you feel like anything and everything of value has just been sucked out of you and left you a hollow shell.
I don't want to go back to those days >.< Part of why I despise the anti-medication crowd so much.
Quote from: Sabby on Apr 13, 2014, 12:55:03 AM
When people talk about depression, they usually just mean 'dang, I feel kind of down'. That's part of it, but... it can be pretty friggen crippling. Vanilla blahness is one thing, but there are times where you feel like anything and everything of value has just been sucked out of you and left you a hollow shell.
I don't want to go back to those days >.< Part of why I despise the anti-medication crowd so much.
man your preachin! lol :laugh: I agree with most of everything you said. I mean yeah its truly crippling. It can make you feel like your life, worth and value are wiped away. Your just a hollow shell with nothing to offer anyone to anyone. You feel like your not essential part of life anymore and no one cares about you. I agree with you Sabby. I really despise the anti-medication folks. They believe just dealing with it on your own in your head solves everything or smoking pot which I've heard doctors say it short circuits the brain activity and stabalizes your moods. I smoke sometimes to help stabalize but overall my medication does all the work I need it to do. Its made me feel 90% better about life.
Quote from: Sabby on Apr 12, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
I have a lot of trouble understanding and valuing peoples emotions, which can make me come across as very cold.
this pretty much goes for me as well but unlike you i don't have problem controling what i say. it is actually the exact opposite, i do not share my thoughts at all, i like to keep them for myself, i would even say that i hate when someone whant to know what i'm thinking about and stuff like that. i generally don't like being with people, talking to people. i like to be alone. that's also a reason why i'm not posting much. from time to time i have a moment that i talk or post more.
luckily i do not have depressions or disorders(well not mood disorders :D ) i do however have a headache permanently for about 4 years, mostly pretty weak one which i already got used to, sometimes it's worse but i learned to live with it :)
Quote from: MoonerSK on Apr 13, 2014, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Sabby on Apr 12, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
I have a lot of trouble understanding and valuing peoples emotions, which can make me come across as very cold.
this pretty much goes for me as well but unlike you i don't have problem controling what i say. it is actually the exact opposite, i do not share my thoughts at all, i like to keep them for myself, i would even say that i hate when someone whant to know what i'm thinking about and stuff like that. i generally don't like being with people, talking to people. i like to be alone. that's also a reason why i'm not posting much. from time to time i have a moment that i talk or post more.
luckily i do not have depressions or disorders(well not mood disorders :D ) i do however have a headache permanently for about 4 years, mostly pretty weak one which i already got used to, sometimes it's worse but i learned to live with it :)
Thanks for sharing MoonerSK :) Sounds like you might have some social phobias or aniexty though. People who feel the need to keep themselves closed off tend to have problems speaking with others and socializing with peers. Do you ever feel anxious at times?
Just because he don't want to mess with people, doesn't mean that he have any problems at all! I agree that its not worth bothering with 90% of the people these days. Its waste of time because their interests and views are broken on so many ways. That's not his problem.
Quote from: WinterActual on Apr 13, 2014, 05:04:37 PM
Just because he don't want to mess with people, doesn't mean that he have any problems at all! I agree that its not worth bothering with 90% of the people these days. Its waste of time because their interests and views are broken on so many ways. That's not his problem.
Some people aren't antisocial, they're just a bit more selective about with whom they socialize.
Quote from: Purvis on Apr 13, 2014, 04:49:52 PM
Thanks for sharing MoonerSK :) Sounds like you might have some social phobias or aniexty though. People who feel the need to keep themselves closed off tend to have problems speaking with others and socializing with peers. Do you ever feel anxious at times?
Actually I don't feel anxious at all. Problems speaking with others? i would probably lie if i said i don't, on the other hand it's kinda hard to speak with someone you have nothing in common(most of the people out there). I'm not a talker type of person, if I have something to say I say it but to say stuff just to keep talking is not really my thing.
Quote from: WinterActual on Apr 13, 2014, 05:04:37 PM
Just because he don't want to mess with people, doesn't mean that he have any problems at all! I agree that its not worth bothering with 90% of the people these days. Its waste of time because their interests and views are broken on so many ways. That's not his problem.
wow, you're actually the first person who don't see it as some kind of problem if i don't want to mess with people. it feels good to get a bit of understanding
I had clinical depression for about two years, out of it recently.
Nothing other than that and my partner has insomnia, and when he passes out eventually he has terrible nightmares making him shake.
I've learned what it's like myself to have a medical condition a disorder and try my best to help someone else with theirs
I had social anxiety disorder from 18 to about 26. I was accosted by a stranger after a fishing trip simply for being in the passengers seat of a type of car he hated. He literally jumped out of his car at a red light and punched me in the face through my open window. For years I was afraid that some random person was going to accost me out of.nowhere. I still have a scar to remind me of it.
Eventually, I just looked at a calendar and said to myself, I think it's time to put this aside.
All has been in perfect homeostasis since.
I dont believe in that stuff!
You were born with a pair,
but they tell you that that aint true.
Its true.
Its inbetwixt you.
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 14, 2014, 02:06:52 AM
I dont believe in that stuff!
You were born with a pair,
but they tell you that that aint true.
Its true.
Its inbetwixt you.
I like your point of view. I can only imagine what moodiness awaits you in retaliation.
I don't suffer from any mental disorders either, but many people confuse my laziness and boring personality for severe depression. I do suffer from anxiety, but it's for legitimate reasons, and not something that requires medicine.
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 14, 2014, 02:06:52 AM
I dont believe in that stuff!
You were born with a pair,
but they tell you that that aint true.
Its true.
Its inbetwixt you.
Oh yes, just be a man and bare the chemical imbalance. That'll work.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Apr 14, 2014, 02:11:50 AM
I don't suffer from any mental disorders either, but many people confuse my laziness and boring personality for severe depression. I do suffer from anxiety, but it's for legitimate reasons, and not something that requires medicine.
I love this.
Quote from: RagingDragon on Apr 14, 2014, 03:17:01 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Apr 14, 2014, 02:11:50 AM
I don't suffer from any mental disorders either, but many people confuse my laziness and boring personality for severe depression. I do suffer from anxiety, but it's for legitimate reasons, and not something that requires medicine.
I love this.
Ay, moniqa. 8)
Quote from: Mr. Sin on Apr 14, 2014, 02:01:15 AM
I had social anxiety disorder from 18 to about 26. I was accosted by a stranger after a fishing trip simply for being in the passengers seat of a type of car he hated. He literally jumped out of his car at a red light and punched me in the face through my open window. For years I was afraid that some random person was going to accost me out of.nowhere. I still have a scar to remind me of it.
Eventually, I just looked at a calendar and said to myself, I think it's time to put this aside.
All has been in perfect homeostasis since.
Wow that sounds awful!! Did you charge that person with anything like assault charges or anything for what he did. You can't just go up to someone's car and break their window and punch them. That's ridiculous!!
Quote from: Cal427eb on Apr 14, 2014, 02:11:50 AM
I don't suffer from any mental disorders either, but many people confuse my laziness and boring personality for severe depression. I do suffer from anxiety, but it's for legitimate reasons, and not something that requires medicine.
Do you mind sharing those "legitimate reasons", You should take Zoloft or Prozac for the anxiety. Anxiety is a unstable fluxuation of chemicals in the brain. You also need to let the medication build up in your system for some months before you notice its really killing the edge of day to day aniexty. If you need something fast acting there's always Xanex and Colonopin.
Yes, I do mind so, I won't be sharing those with you, and no, I shouldn't be taking anything for anxiety.
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on Apr 13, 2014, 09:43:26 PM
Nothing other than that and my partner has insomnia,
You mean your roommate? Or co-op buddy?
Quote from: Mr. Sin on Apr 14, 2014, 02:01:15 AM
I was accosted by a stranger after a fishing trip simply for being in the passengers seat of a type of car he hated. He literally jumped out of his car at a red light and punched me in the face through my open window.
Let me guess. It was a Honda. Typical outcome mate.
Quote from: WinterActual on Apr 14, 2014, 05:29:22 AM
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on Apr 13, 2014, 09:43:26 PM
Nothing other than that and my partner has insomnia,
You mean your roommate? Or co-op buddy?
Pretty sure, he means sexual partner.
So at a young age I was diagnosed with all of the above and was on medication for a majority of my life.
I was in 3rd? 4th? grade and was on some medication and the dosage was so high it caused me to have a seizure and pass out in class. After that I had to be monitored to make sure that nothing was broken and the diagnoses showed somehow it did no damage (but then again it was the 90s so for all we know now that's competently wrong now.) But the doctors said that the amount of medication I was on was enough to cause serious problems for a full grown man let alone a child.
Around the time I was diagnosed with everything i had been seeing various psychiatrists all my life until the most current one around my late teens honest to gods just quit on me. She literately just said to my mother there was nothing she could do and threw in the towel. Since then I have not seen a psychiatrist nor taken any medication.
Honestly I feel more like a living person now more then ever.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Apr 14, 2014, 04:43:23 AM
I shouldn't be taking anything for anxiety.
must agree with this. nowadays it seems like doctors prescribe medicine for every small issue. you're a bit sic? take antibiotics. if you have some serius issues than ok taka medicine but for every small thing toeat pills with god knows what side effect can make more damage than good
Quote from: MoonerSK on Apr 14, 2014, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Apr 14, 2014, 04:43:23 AM
I shouldn't be taking anything for anxiety.
must agree with this. nowadays it seems like doctors prescribe medicine for every small issue. you're a bit sic? take antibiotics. if you have some serius issues than ok taka medicine but for every small thing toeat pills with god knows what side effect can make more damage than good
The problem is man is that some people really do need medication for disorders and chemical imbalances in their brains. Ever since I've been taking 200 mg of Zoloft and Lamictal I feel incredible and less anixous and willing to talk to other people. My depression has subsided and I suffer no more anxiety. Before my anxiety crippled me and I had social phobias really bad. I felt isolated, alone and deeply depressed. The medication has really helped man and theres plenty of people out there that would agree that medication really does help chemical imbalances in the brain.
Quote from: Predator Queen on Apr 14, 2014, 08:00:00 AM
So at a young age I was diagnosed with all of the above and was on medication for a majority of my life.
I was in 3rd? 4th? grade and was on some medication and the dosage was so high it caused me to have a seizure and pass out in class. After that I had to be monitored to make sure that nothing was broken and the diagnoses showed somehow it did no damage (but then again it was the 90s so for all we know now that's competently wrong now.) But the doctors said that the amount of medication I was on was enough to cause serious problems for a full grown man let alone a child.
Around the time I was diagnosed with everything i had been seeing various psychiatrists all my life until the most current one around my late teens honest to gods just quit on me. She literately just said to my mother there was nothing she could do and threw in the towel. Since then I have not seen a psychiatrist nor taken any medication.
Honestly I feel more like a living person now more then ever.
definetally sounds like tooooooo much medication to me. Maybe you should just stick to a antidepressant like Prozac or Zoloft even Serequil is one medication that helps with seizures, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. And plus that was way back in the 90's man. Its time to move forward. Medication has come a looonnnngggg way since than. I would reconsider just abdoning treatment man. There's a lot of people and medicines that can help with that stuff in a lot more efficent way.
I think it would be prudent to invest in placebo manufacturing.
I have depression. It comes and goes. Chronic depression, I guess. I was told "clinical depression", but googling that brings "Major Depressive Disorder", and that just sounds really bad so I try not to call it that. I sought help for a while, saw a psychotherapist. It worked for a while but recently it's just been coming back. I haven't told my therapist that yet. I probably should.
It's apparently obvious when I'm going through something, because I've been told my depression tends to make me act out of character in a variety of different ways. Sometimes I get a bit on edge, sometimes I lash out at people, sometimes I refuse to actually do anything, and sometimes I tend to just go completely unresponsive.
On another note, in some weird twist of fate, simply having some form of depression contributes to my depression. It makes me question whether or not I truly have a disorder, or if I'm simply aware of where I am in life. :-\
Quote from: RazorSlash on Apr 18, 2014, 09:36:27 PM
I have depression. It comes and goes. Chronic depression, I guess. I was told "clinical depression", but googling that brings "Major Depressive Disorder", and that just sounds really bad so I try not to call it that. I sought help for a while, saw a psychotherapist. It worked for a while but recently it's just been coming back. I haven't told my therapist that yet. I probably should.
It's apparently obvious when I'm going through something, because I've been told my depression tends to make me act out of character in a variety of different ways. Sometimes I get a bit on edge, sometimes I lash out at people, sometimes I refuse to actually do anything, and sometimes I tend to just go completely unresponsive.
On another note, in some weird twist of fate, simply having some form of depression contributes to my depression. It makes me question whether or not I truly have a disorder, or if I'm simply aware of where I am in life. :-\
Thanks for sharing man :) Depression can easily be taken care of with one antidepressant not 5 medications like some took or said they needed. I'm surprised your Psychotherapist has not recommended any medication. Especially if you were formally diagnosed with clinical depression. I would advise that you talk to her about it man. Zoloft is a great antidepressant because its been known to have way less sideeffects than Prozac for example and anitdepressants have come a long way. You should talk to a Psychiatrist who could easily prescribe a antidepressant that takes off that edge and irritability. I know exactly where your coming from man. I have Cyclothymic Disorder and only 0.1% to 0.4% of population even has this disorder but its when you feel deeply depressed for a couple of hours and than you get maniac or feel extremely good for a couple hours and it fluxuates back and forth. It kind of sucks man. My doctor told me that if I don't treat this disorder with medication that it could eventually develop into Bipolar Disorder.
I'm on Cymgen 60mg and Wellbutrin XL 300mg. Both work well for me but they aren't covered by medical aid here.
Quote from: Vickers on Apr 19, 2014, 04:25:16 PM
I'm on Cymgen 60mg and Wellbutrin XL 300mg. Both work well for me but they aren't covered by medical aid here.
Cool, how do they work for you?
Well, they help me cope with clinical depression better and aid me in functioning throughout the day. They don't completely eradicate the depression but they do help a great deal.
When did medication become so prevalent, does anyone know? I only ask because up until a year or so ago I never knew so many people were taking so many drugs to help with various situations
depressing that my story was the only one not noticed..like usual.
dunno why i try some days.
Quote from: Vepariga on Apr 12, 2014, 09:54:35 AM
When I moved to Brisbane and got in a relationship that went sour,I had really bad anxiety. I would feel panicky about my future. As soon as I broke up with her,and left Brisbane to return to my home city I felt better but I had periods of anxiety panic attacks if I was in public for too long. If i was in a shopping center for more then a breif moment my heart would race,I would feel extremely dizzy like I was going to fall over and I had to run to the door to get out. It was scary,Its like you feel like your going to die or something if you dont leave. I hate it. I hated myself for quite a while.
Then I just made myself do it,I stayed in public for longer on purpose. I got panicky but I stayed,controlled my breathing and tried to stay calm. I eventually got over it. I still feel the anxious feeling creep on me now and then but no where near as bad as I used to have it. Now I can control it and it hasnt bothered me since. I feel,free.
Its a terrible thing to go through tho and now that i have been there and worked through it I can comfort my friends that have are going through the same thing.
I've actually been through something quite similar in my first relationship, what added salt to it was she was much older that me (Five years) and even if I wanted to talk about how my therapy was going, she wasn't interested, it was the most hollow feeling to have someone treat you as the centre of their world to then look upon you with complete apathy.
And I had the worst anxiety whenever I was reminded of her and triggers that made me almost violent.
You're not alone in that type of experience.
Quote from: Mr. Sin on Apr 23, 2014, 05:57:06 AM
When did medication become so prevalent, does anyone know? I only ask because up until a year or so ago I never knew so many people were taking so many drugs to help with various situations
When advances in medicine were made and different kinds of depression could be controlled with medication.
I don't know, just a wild guess.
Doctors tend to prescribe medicine when even the mildest of symptoms show up, because most MD's don't really understand mental illness and just want to get through patients.
I know that happens but in some cases people really do need the medication and it really does help. And there are a lot of people struggling with severe depression, bipolar etc. who aren't on any kind of medication and should be.
Well yes, some people do get the medicine they need, which is great and the reason it's available. But there is still alot of unnecessary prescribing going on.
In terms of the people who need to be but aren't medicated, there's also the fact that alot of people with depression are unwilling to seek out help. Which is a fairly ominous sign in terms of their personality making the depression worse (i.e they want to struggle alone or don't want to bother others by asking for help).
Yeah, it's complicated. And each case is different.
The only thing I hate is that some people are so quick to write off medication. They should be having an issue with the psychiatrists/GPs who are so quick to prescribe medication without proper visits and sessions to evaluate the patient. Not with the medication itself which clearly does help many.
And not all psychiatrists, psychologists and GPs are bad. (I know you're not saying that, BANE. Just annoyed with the stigma.)
rargghhhhhh anxiety medicine not working tonight
paranoia is setting in
THEY'RE LISTENING ASPIE
THEY'RE COMING
Spoiler
[hug]
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:29:43 AM
rargghhhhhh anxiety medicine not working tonight
paranoia is setting in
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What's got ya down, Aspums?
mmmmmm the special comorbidity of Aspergers and Obssessive-Compulsive disorder generates an anxiety of everything, especially the things that I cannot control.
god dammit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZ33w3B8Hw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZ33w3B8Hw#)
CHILLAX Aspie. :P Get better, brah.
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
mmmmmm the special comorbidity of Aspergers and Obssessive-Compulsive disorder generates an anxiety of everything, especially the things that I cannot control.
god dammit
OCD
and Aspergers?!?!?
The only thing worse would be to throw in a phobia of shadows and a little bit of PTSD from a war you don't remember actually ever fighting in.
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
mmmmmm the special comorbidity of Aspergers and Obssessive-Compulsive disorder generates an anxiety of everything, especially the things that I cannot control.
god dammit
......................
.....................
................whack off
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
mmmmmm the special comorbidity of Aspergers and Obssessive-Compulsive disorder generates an anxiety of everything, especially the things that I cannot control.
god dammit
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Summer will be here soon. No mo' skool.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Apr 27, 2014, 03:45:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZ33w3B8Hw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZ33w3B8Hw#)
CHILLAX Aspie. :P Get better, brah.
Brian De Palma's version is better :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgyAgsDo4sw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgyAgsDo4sw#)
Quote from: BANE on Apr 27, 2014, 03:48:13 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
mmmmmm the special comorbidity of Aspergers and Obssessive-Compulsive disorder generates an anxiety of everything, especially the things that I cannot control.
god dammit
OCD and Aspergers?!?!?
The only thing worse would be to throw in a phobia of shadows and a little bit of PTSD from a war you don't remember actually ever fighting in.
lol no kidding. OCD runs in my family, and I won the lotto for Aspergers. The Aspergers itself doesn't bother me, but it counteracts with the OCD something awful.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 27, 2014, 03:48:25 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
mmmmmm the special comorbidity of Aspergers and Obssessive-Compulsive disorder generates an anxiety of everything, especially the things that I cannot control.
god dammit
......................
.....................
................whack off
is there a prescription for that
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 27, 2014, 03:51:30 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
mmmmmm the special comorbidity of Aspergers and Obssessive-Compulsive disorder generates an anxiety of everything, especially the things that I cannot control.
god dammit
http://imageshack.com/a/img11/1556/rfpm.gif
Summer will be here soon. No mo' skool.
can I graduate already :P
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:53:19 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 27, 2014, 03:48:25 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
mmmmmm the special comorbidity of Aspergers and Obssessive-Compulsive disorder generates an anxiety of everything, especially the things that I cannot control.
god dammit
......................
.....................
................whack off
is there a prescription for that
Viagra.
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:53:19 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 27, 2014, 03:48:25 AM
whack off
is there a prescription for that
The last thing someone with OCD needs is to whack off.
I'm pretty sure that it can cure 90% of a persons ills.
guess you must be pretty healthy then
(Peep game)
The Depression, Aniexty and Mood Disorders,
ARE OUTSIDE OF YOU.
Search within.
Your TRUTH, Peace and salvation are INSIDE of you.
Any other quickfix is snake oil.
Edit: I'll put it this way!
I measure me!
I'm honest to myself first and foremost!
(Admittedly the measure of humanity/yourself IS by the best and worst of the humanity around you.)
Whether that jibes with the people around me,
I may shut up if the pressure is too much.
Whats called live to fight another day.
But I wasn't ashamed of standing up for what I truly,
after inner fashion,
believe in.
Put me down before I dont believe in myself.
Thats not the life I want to live.
I always find,
Manic depression,
(The Jimi song),
In any form you can find it,
Celebratory!
You just have to pull back,
at the last second.
The whole first album will tell you every thing you need.
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That was helpful.
That blasted me in the nards.
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 27, 2014, 04:40:07 AM
I always find,
Manic depression,
(The Jimi song),
In any form you can find it,
Celebratory!
You just have to pull back,
at the last second.
The whole first album will tell you every thing you need.
You can swap "women" so pretty for "dude".
I think that one of the best guitarist feeling my pain,
helps just a bit.
In a selfish way.
Even the best of us, is only one of us.
Quote from: Mr. Sin on Apr 23, 2014, 05:57:06 AM
When did medication become so prevalent, does anyone know? I only ask because up until a year or so ago I never knew so many people were taking so many drugs to help with various situations
Yeah man, its a lot more common than you think.
I'm gonna get yelled at for this...
(I tend to gravitate towards it),
da libs WANT you to be crazy!
Its traditionally referred to as a lib science,
and dey make money off of it.
It occured to me when I was talking to some black people, and they reffered to "John George"?!
Apparently this is a nutball house where you can get qualified for "stuff".
They laughed at me, because I didn't know what it was.
Your Depression, Aniexty and Mood Disorders...
Is your average leech off of the taxpayer.
There is nothing wrong with you,
you just want attention.
Quote from: BANE on Apr 23, 2014, 04:04:15 PM
Doctors tend to prescribe medicine when even the mildest of symptoms show up, because most MD's don't really understand mental illness and just want to get through patients.
not really man...most doctors prescribe the medication because in most cases it most likely needed. Not because there lazy.
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 27, 2014, 04:09:38 PM
I'm gonna get yelled at for this...
(I tend to gravitate towards it),
da libs WANT you to be crazy!
Its traditionally referred to as a lib science,
and dey make money off of it.
It occured to me when I was talking to some black people, and they reffered to "John George"?!
Apparently this is a nutball house where you can get qualified for "stuff".
They laughed at me, because I didn't know what it was.
Your Depression, Aniexty and Mood Disorders...
Is your average leech off of the taxpayer.
There is nothing wrong with you,
you just want attention.
You're a f**king dickhead who clearly just doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
Quote from: Aspie on Apr 27, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
mmmmmm the special comorbidity of Aspergers and Obssessive-Compulsive disorder generates an anxiety of everything, especially the things that I cannot control.
god dammit
Do you take any meds to cope with your issues?
Despite your filthy adjectives,
I probably had a clue before you whiped axx.
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 27, 2014, 04:15:53 PM
Despite your filthy adjectives,
I probably had a clue before you whiped axx.
Not even a smidge of a clue quite clearly, you're a disgusting homophobic racist.
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 27, 2014, 04:09:38 PM
I'm gonna get yelled at for this...
(I tend to gravitate towards it),
da libs WANT you to be crazy!
Its traditionally referred to as a lib science,
and dey make money off of it.
It occured to me when I was talking to some black people, and they reffered to "John George"?!
Apparently this is a nutball house where you can get qualified for "stuff".
They laughed at me, because I didn't know what it was.
Your Depression, Aniexty and Mood Disorders...
Is your average leech off of the taxpayer.
There is nothing wrong with you,
you just want attention.
How ironic, your posts all scream for attention. ;D
And you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on Apr 27, 2014, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 27, 2014, 04:15:53 PM
Despite your filthy adjectives,
I probably had a clue before you whiped axx.
Not even a smidge of a clue quite clearly, you're a disgusting homophobic racist.
I'm none of those things.
You're a desperate weakling.
How ironic, your posts all scream for attention. ;D
And you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.
^^
I encourage you to not pay me no mind...
Uhg, seems I've forgotten my meds... I can tell, because my skin starts to burn.
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 27, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on Apr 27, 2014, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 27, 2014, 04:15:53 PM
Despite your filthy adjectives,
I probably had a clue before you whiped axx.
Not even a smidge of a clue quite clearly, you're a disgusting homophobic racist.
I'm none of those things.
You're a desperate weakling.
Then why do you consistently divide people through race and sexuality?
And make inferences about both.
I'm definitely weak in a physical sense, and mentally still learning due to my age.
"desperate" could mean anything however.
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on Apr 27, 2014, 04:22:49 PM
Then why do you consistently divide people through race and sexuality?
Though doth protest too much...
Quote from: RobThom on Apr 27, 2014, 04:24:59 PM
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on Apr 27, 2014, 04:22:49 PM
Then why do you consistently divide people through race and sexuality?
Though doth protest too much...
No, none, end of or f**k off.
Quote from: Chronicle on Apr 27, 2014, 04:11:15 PM
Quote from: BANE on Apr 23, 2014, 04:04:15 PM
Doctors tend to prescribe medicine when even the mildest of symptoms show up, because most MD's don't really understand mental illness and just want to get through patients.
not really man...most doctors prescribe the medication because in most cases it most likely needed. Not because there lazy.
Wrong in the case of mental illness.
Quote from: Sabby on Apr 27, 2014, 04:21:45 PM
Uhg, seems I've forgotten my meds... I can tell, because my skin starts to burn.
that is your faithlessness....................
:P
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 27, 2014, 04:06:18 AM
guess you must be pretty healthy then
The healthiest.
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on Apr 27, 2014, 04:26:30 PM
No, none, end of or f**k off.
You sure are a mean booger.
Sigmund Frued might have something to say about that.
I don't tolerate bigottry.
Well you better learn to. >:(
Much easier to line them up on the street.
Bigots C'mon.
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on Apr 27, 2014, 05:30:21 PM
Much easier to line them up on the street.
Thinking like a bigot yourself there.
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 27, 2014, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: Erik Lehnsherr on Apr 27, 2014, 05:30:21 PM
Much easier to line them up on the street.
Thinking like a bigot yourself there.
That's the joke.... ._.
._.
Erik's mind is still not fully formed as he is a teenager.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 27, 2014, 05:43:18 PM
Erik's mind is still not fully formed as he is a teenager.
]:
Damn developing teenage minds
Hawt.
lol
I think cognitive development stops somewhere in the 18 or 19 range.
IF CAL IS REALLY 19.
Now shipping Cal and Erik.
... Yes.
My experience with the mental health system has been nothing short of horrible.
I've tried prozac, celexa, paxil, zoloft, depakote, risperidone, klonopin, ativan, serequel, geodone, and lithium, to name just a few. I had no side effects with the anti depressants, but they didn't help my mood at all (and I gave them a lot of time at the proper dose for my weight). The anti psychotics made me extremely illl. I seemed to have gotten far more side effects than most people do on them (seriously, I had almost all the side effects listed). Oh, and they didn't help at all, and made things 10x worse. Depakote caused severe dizziness and hair loss, while lithium caused tremors and blurred vision. Again, didn't do anything for mood.
I was diagnosed with panic disorder as a teenager, but was never told this, and at least a dozen appointments with medical doctors for physical issues were being attributed to panic disorder without my knowledge, effectively causing the doctors to undermine everything I said. I only found out about the diagnosis at age 18 when I started going through my files.
It turns out I just had Orthostatic hypotension, which is where your blood pressure changes suddenly when standing up or stretching. In my case, it caused light headiness to the point of nearly fainting, especially in school, which of course generated some anxiety. It turns out my mother and grandmother have this as well, but I was able to improve it by drinking a lot more water and not sitting for long (which wasn't an option in school, unfortunately). My vitamin B12 (which can cause the condition) also tested at 450, which is considered normal in the US, but in Japan anything under 500 is treated.
I was also diagnosed with major depression at age 12, hence the antidepressants. I really just hated school and didn't adjust well. Not much more to say about it. Same thing happened in high school, although by my senior year, they changed the diagnosis to Bipolar 1 disorder, hence everything listed that's not an antidepressant.
That was a clusterf**k of medications I didn't need. I had a 4 hour psychological evaluation fairly recently and it came up with no diagnosis. I'm just really bad at communicating my problems to people.
The mood issues can be attributed to situational stressors I never learned to cope with, and bad lifestyle habits. My old eating and sleeping patterns were promoting low testosterone and high stress, and months of glowing lights and electronic over stimulation at 3pm produced the kind of symptoms characteristic of mania (also why I made those extremely bizarre topics on this site early last year).
________
Basically all I had to do was exercise/diet, take vitamin d, balance my intake of omega 6 to omega 3, and go outside more often, oh, and stop visiting the quacks recognized as doctors. Most recently they were looking at ADD and personality disorders. ugh. My curiosity over what they'll come up with next is almost drawing me back to them.
I wouldn't consider myself anti medication, because obviously it helps some people (they helped me in an unintended way by making me sick to the point I said no more and gained the will to change myself), but I also don't think it's the best option for people most of the time. I guess that's medication-ambivalent. I think the chemical imbalance theory will be viewed in the same light as phrenology in the future. The mind just isn't that simple.
_________
Anyone ever take the MMPI2? I found a copy of it online and it said I was a depressed schizophrenic psychopath :laugh:
QuoteI've tried prozac, celexa, paxil, zoloft, depakote, risperidone, klonopin, ativan, serequel, geodone, and lithium, to name just a few.
Maybe try them one at a time instead of all at once.
;D
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Apr 27, 2014, 07:20:38 PM
My experience with the mental health system has been nothing short of horrible.
I've tried prozac, celexa, paxil, zoloft, depakote, risperidone, klonopin, ativan, serequel, geodone, and lithium, to name just a few. I had no side effects with the anti depressants, but they didn't help my mood at all (and I gave them a lot of time at the proper dose for my weight). The anti psychotics made me extremely illl. I seemed to have gotten far more side effects than most people do on them (seriously, I had almost all the side effects listed). Oh, and they didn't help at all, and made things 10x worse. Depakote caused severe dizziness and hair loss, while lithium caused tremors and blurred vision. Again, didn't do anything for mood.
I was diagnosed with panic disorder as a teenager, but was never told this, and at least a dozen appointments with medical doctors for physical issues were being attributed to panic disorder without my knowledge, effectively causing the doctors to undermine everything I said. I only found out about the diagnosis at age 18 when I started going through my files.
It turns out I just had Orthostatic hypotension, which is where your blood pressure changes suddenly when standing up or stretching. In my case, it caused light headiness to the point of nearly fainting, especially in school, which of course generated some anxiety. It turns out my mother and grandmother have this as well, but I was able to improve it by drinking a lot more water and not sitting for long (which wasn't an option in school, unfortunately). My vitamin B12 (which can cause the condition) also tested at 450, which is considered normal in the US, but in Japan anything under 500 is treated.
I was also diagnosed with major depression at age 12, hence the antidepressants. I really just hated school and didn't adjust well. Not much more to say about it. Same thing happened in high school, although by my senior year, they changed the diagnosis to Bipolar 1 disorder, hence everything listed that's not an antidepressant.
That was a clusterf**k of medications I didn't need. I had a 4 hour psychological evaluation fairly recently and it came up with no diagnosis. I'm just really bad at communicating my problems to people.
The mood issues can be attributed to situational stressors I never learned to cope with, and bad lifestyle habits. My old eating and sleeping patterns were promoting low testosterone and high stress, and months of glowing lights and electronic over stimulation at 3pm produced the kind of symptoms characteristic of mania (also why I made those extremely bizarre topics on this site early last year).
________
Basically all I had to do was exercise/diet, take vitamin d, balance my intake of omega 6 to omega 3, and go outside more often, oh, and stop visiting the quacks recognized as doctors. Most recently they were looking at ADD and personality disorders. ugh. My curiosity over what they'll come up with next is almost drawing me back to them.
I wouldn't consider myself anti medication, because obviously it helps some people (they helped me in an unintended way by making me sick to the point I said no more and gained the will to change myself), but I also don't think it's the best option for people most of the time. I guess that's medication-ambivalent. I think the chemical imbalance theory will be viewed in the same light as phrenology in the future. The mind just isn't that simple.
_________
Anyone ever take the MMPI2? I found a copy of it online and it said I was a depressed schizophrenic psychopath :laugh:
Yeah man I take Lamictal which is a AWESOME mood stabalizer for my Cyclothymic Disorder. with almost no sideeffects and it really does help you. Like I don't feel the need to think about sad thoughts anymore or get super excited or anxious. Its not like Lithium where it makes you a zombie either. I've taken a lot of drugs in my day to man and Lamictal is the shit. Plain and simple. I only take 200 mg of Zoloft which is the highest dose and than I take 100mg of Lamictal twice a day.
Quote from: SM on Apr 28, 2014, 12:29:49 AM
QuoteI've tried prozac, celexa, paxil, zoloft, depakote, risperidone, klonopin, ativan, serequel, geodone, and lithium, to name just a few.
Maybe try them one at a time instead of all at once
;D
I agree with you SM here. It seems like these dim wit doctors you guys are going to are prescribing a very large amount of medication and just hoping they mix well. I would suggest just sticking to 1 or 2 medications instead of 5 or 6.
It's not usually the "dim wit doctors," as you put it, that are the problem, but the multiple doctors prescribing different medicine for one patient with there being no communication between the doctors.
I never said I took all those meds at once. ???
I cycled through them over a period of 8 years.
I know.
Someone above inexplicably missed the smiley...
lol SM u naughty birdy
Not sure if this is because of me falling out of med schedule or something to do with my working out and diet, but I just slept 30 hours and woke up feeling very tired but emotionally stable :/ Weird.
Maybe you were in a medically induced coma.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Apr 27, 2014, 05:47:49 PM
I think cognitive development stops somewhere in the 18 or 19 range.
IF CAL IS REALLY 19.
Nope cognitive development stops at LEAST 27-29. Thats when most adults brains are fully developed. 18 or 19 are you kidding me?!
Cognitive development continues throughout life.....
Of course but not brain development. Your brain stops developing around 27.
Quote from: Chronicle on Jul 03, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
Of course but not brain development. Your brain stops developing around 27.
Not quite.....quantum mechanics tells us that there are versions of you where your brain would be perceived to have stopped developing cognitively at various ages, and some where it wouldn't be perceived to have stopped at all.....
The only question you should be asking.....which version of you are you?
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 07:53:37 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Jul 03, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
Of course but not brain development. Your brain stops developing around 27.
Not quite.....quantum mechanics tells us that there are versions of you where your brain would be perceived to have stopped developing cognitively at various ages, and some where it wouldn't be perceived to have stopped at all.....
The only question you should be asking.....which version of you are you?
You just boggled my mind there. f**k now, "who am I is" the question? I think I've learned a lot so far being on this Earth for 21 years but I do feel like parts of me are still stuck in the adolescent stage. :laugh: Haha, I'll admit its taken a little while for me to grow up.
Quote from: Chronicle on Jul 03, 2014, 08:05:05 PM
You just boggled my mind there. f**k now, "who am I is" the question? I think I've learned a lot so far being on this Earth for 21 years but I do feel like parts of me are still stuck in the adolescent stage. :laugh: Haha, I'll admit its taken a little while for me to grow up.
What if I told you what is considered to be the adolescent stage also varies across different versions of you? How do you know you're not still a child in this one? Perhaps you're a fetus, and this is a dream.....
....make it a good one
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 08:23:30 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Jul 03, 2014, 08:05:05 PM
You just boggled my mind there. f**k now, "who am I is" the question? I think I've learned a lot so far being on this Earth for 21 years but I do feel like parts of me are still stuck in the adolescent stage. :laugh: Haha, I'll admit its taken a little while for me to grow up.
What if I told you what is considered to be the adolescent stage also varies across different versions of you? How do you know you're not still a child in this one? Perhaps you're a fetus, and this is a dream.....
....make it a good one
Good point. How do we not know that the entirety of reality is a game that Aliens are playing right now? :laugh: How do we not know if were just some microscopic organism in a vaccum of nothingness. lol there's so many possibility. And like you said I could be an F'in fetus :laugh: just swirling around in my Mom's womb. Thats incredibly odd to think about lol XD
Quote from: Chronicle on Jul 03, 2014, 08:33:29 PM
Good point. How do we not know that the entirety of reality is a game that Aliens are playing right now? :laugh: How do we not know if were just some microscopic organism in a vaccum of nothingness. lol there's so many possibility. And like you said I could be an F'in fetus :laugh: just swirling around in my Mom's womb. Thats incredibly odd to think about lol XD
How can you be sure I'm not an alien playing you right now?
What if the Earth is a testicle, and you humans are sperm trying to figure out how to get the universe to ejaculate you into space in search of the egg?
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 08:41:33 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Jul 03, 2014, 08:33:29 PM
Good point. How do we not know that the entirety of reality is a game that Aliens are playing right now? :laugh: How do we not know if were just some microscopic organism in a vaccum of nothingness. lol there's so many possibility. And like you said I could be an F'in fetus :laugh: just swirling around in my Mom's womb. Thats incredibly odd to think about lol XD
How can you be sure I'm not an alien playing you right now?
What if the Earth is a testicle, and you humans are sperm trying to figure out how to get the universe to ejaculate you into space in search of the egg?
:laugh: Good point.
I'll give you some advice....
The best egg to fertilize is hidden in a higher dimension, coated in a sheath of Dark-matter-----when your universe collapses into one large enough black hole, it will be dense enough to pass through this sheath with the core of it surviving.....and a being in the fifth dimension will be born.....
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 09:06:26 PM
I'll give you some advice....
The best egg to fertilize is hidden in a higher dimension, coated in a sheath of Dark-antimatter-----when your universe collapses into one large enough black hole, it will be dense enough to pass through this sheath with the core of it surviving.....and a being in the fifth dimension will be born.....
??? Your too smart for your own good kid lol.
Quote from: Chronicle on Jul 03, 2014, 09:12:27 PM
??? Your too smart for your own good kid lol.
A psychiatrist once tried to test me....I ate his lithium with some vistaril and a nice neuroleptic
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Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 09:30:50 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Jul 03, 2014, 09:12:27 PM
??? Your too smart for your own good kid lol.
A psychiatrist once tried to test me....I ate his lithium with some vistaril and a nice neuroleptic
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Oh Shit lol! I take a mood stabilizer but no where near lithium. I heard that stuff makes you into a complete emotionless zombie. Why were they giving you all that?
Quote from: Chronicle on Jul 03, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Oh Shit lol! I take a mood stabilizer but no where near lithium. I heard that stuff makes you into a complete emotionless zombie. Why were they giving you all that?
History of depression
in school
and while seeing a therapist I told them I was going to blow away Einstein----was presumed to be the onset of a manic episode.....many medications were tried....
Then they sent me to a psychologist and she found I was able to manipulate her personality test, and then I told her inattentive add seems to run in the males of my family, and she agreed with my self diagnosis, and years of suffering for being on a different wavelength were finally explained....
http://www.brainworks.info/bwtips/inattentivenessquietdisorder.aspx (http://www.brainworks.info/bwtips/inattentivenessquietdisorder.aspx)
more about it^^^
Yeah I have disorder called "Cyclothymic Disorder" Its a disorder where you experience really HIGH manic episodes and you quickly within, minutes or hours you drop down into a deep depressed mood and than you start feelin REAL high again like your chasing stars and than you drop back down to depression within minutes. Its a super rare disorder. My doctor told me only 0.1% to 0.4% of the population has this disorder. It sucks because you wanna feel that good all the time but than your brain goes into that shit storm again. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And it also blows because you can't really talk to anybody about it that understands you know. It can also cripple relationships pretty easily studies have shown.
Cyclothymia is a variant of bipolar disorder....and usually the mood swings are days to weeks......
Swinging between moods as quickly as you describe is called ultradian cycling---and is very rare.
There's also a heavy overlap with borderline personality, in which a person has problems with the prefrontal cortex----basically their body runs away with their emotions, as they have almost no breaks.....
There is another thing that could explain your symptoms.....I experienced very rapid super high and low mood swings for almost a year, and they cycled from high to low within minutes to a few days........it turned out my body has a lot of allergies I didn't know I had, and I'm also going to be tested for celiac disease---which is autoimmune, and not quite an allergy......
If I were you, I'd get a referral to see an allergist....we have no idea how much the foods we eat affect our moods....
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 10:04:00 PM
Swinging between moods as quickly as you describe is called ultradian cycling---and is very rare.
There's also a heavy overlap with borderline personality, in which a person has problems with the prefrontal cortex----basically their body runs away with their emotions, as they have almost no breaks.....
This sounds almost exactly like me. I do seem to run with my emotions SO MUCH. Omg, and it kind of effects how I make my decisions with people and friends. My moods really do effect my actions and such. My moods do cycle. I wouldn't say my personality changes but my moods change dramatically in short periods of time.
Any history of mood swings in the family?
Ever have significant head trauma? Ever have a brain scan?
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 10:25:03 PM
Any history of mood swings in the family?
Ever have significant head trauma? Ever have a brain scan?
Yes, my mother, younger sister, older sister and older brother. We all have chemical imbalances in our big heads
Try reading around here: http://forums.psychcentral.com/borderline-personality-disorder/ (http://forums.psychcentral.com/borderline-personality-disorder/)
And here: http://www.psychforums.com/borderline-personality/ (http://www.psychforums.com/borderline-personality/)
And here (your diagnosis) : http://www.psychforums.com/cyclothymia/ (http://www.psychforums.com/cyclothymia/)
It's possible you could have one, the other, both, or something else.......
But borderline personality is extremely dramatic....
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 10:39:44 PM
Try reading around here: http://forums.psychcentral.com/borderline-personality-disorder/ (http://forums.psychcentral.com/borderline-personality-disorder/)
And here: http://www.psychforums.com/borderline-personality/ (http://www.psychforums.com/borderline-personality/)
And here (your diagnosis) : http://www.psychforums.com/cyclothymia/ (http://www.psychforums.com/cyclothymia/)
It's possible you could have one, the other, both, or something else.......
But borderline personality is extremely dramatic....
Thanks for the links XenoKiller :) really appreciate it.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 09:49:35 PM
and while seeing a therapist I told them I was going to blow away Einstein-
Like a murder or with some obscure thought?
Quote from: BANE on Jul 04, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 09:49:35 PM
and while seeing a therapist I told them I was going to blow away Einstein-
Like a murder or with some obscure thought?
Kind of like Silence of the Lambs right?
Quote from: BANE on Jul 04, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 03, 2014, 09:49:35 PM
and while seeing a therapist I told them I was going to blow away Einstein-
Like a murder or with some obscure thought?
Like a surreal killer that murders fantasy to send its soul to reality.......
answer the question...
He really meant "blow Einstein".
Quote from: SM on Jul 04, 2014, 01:10:39 AM
He really meant "blow Einstein".
It's true; I'm E=mc^2's bitch
Took me two minutes to take a joke from a member here and use it as an excuse to lash out on them...
On top of the panic attack I had earlier? Wow. Enough internet for me today.
Sorry Aspie I almost attacked you for being funny. :(
no probz m8
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anyone struggle with constant "worst case scenario" rumination?
What's that?
Quote from: First Blood on Aug 15, 2014, 02:58:19 AM
What's that?
Some people with depression and/or anxiety disorders hit this particular wall.
The only way I can describe it is like when something during the day seems out of the ordinary to you (or just something inconvenient/bad in general), you automatically assume the worst will happen. Even stuff that's out of your control.
A common example is if your usually friendly boss doesn't say "hello" to you in the morning makes you think you are going to get fired for something. You know it's an irrational thought, but you can't quell the feeling, and actually obsess about it.
Quote from: BANE on Aug 15, 2014, 03:01:19 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Aug 15, 2014, 02:58:19 AM
What's that?
Him realizing he's Aspie...forever.
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I get anxious from time to time, but never to those extremes.
makes the days long and me cripplingly untrusting, mang
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Quote from: Aspie on Aug 15, 2014, 02:54:50 AM
anyone struggle with constant "worst case scenario" rumination?
I get that often where my depression and anxiety go hand-in-hand with catastrophic thinking. It's terrible.
Quote from: SM on Aug 15, 2014, 04:51:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRdtKUWn_wI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRdtKUWn_wI)
AYYYY, that song wasn't too bad.
Quote from: Vickers on Aug 15, 2014, 11:14:43 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Aug 15, 2014, 02:54:50 AM
anyone struggle with constant "worst case scenario" rumination?
I get that often where my depression and anxiety go hand-in-hand with catastrophic thinking. It's terrible.
false guilt follows, at least for me.
Aspie.
I don't think it's a disorder though. Just a thorough analyzing with a tendency to focus on the negative either due to experience (or the fear of experiencing a negative experience.)
Perfectly normal. Just watch those extremes.
Quote from: Aspie on Aug 15, 2014, 03:08:25 AM
The only way I can describe it is like when something during the day seems out of the ordinary to you (or just something inconvenient/bad in general), you automatically assume the worst will happen. Even stuff that's out of your control.
A common example is if your usually friendly boss doesn't say "hello" to you in the morning makes you think you are going to get fired for something. You know it's an irrational thought, but you can't quell the feeling, and actually obsess about it.
Me everyday.
Y u no have confidence
Quote from: Cvalda on Aug 16, 2014, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Aug 15, 2014, 03:08:25 AM
The only way I can describe it is like when something during the day seems out of the ordinary to you (or just something inconvenient/bad in general), you automatically assume the worst will happen. Even stuff that's out of your control.
A common example is if your usually friendly boss doesn't say "hello" to you in the morning makes you think you are going to get fired for something. You know it's an irrational thought, but you can't quell the feeling, and actually obsess about it.
Me everyday.
Same here. On really bad days it doesn't go away, it just eats away at me all day to the point where I become agitated, I can't concentrate on anything and it gradually gets worse and worse to the point where I close myself off completely from everything
Quote from: Vickers on Aug 15, 2014, 11:14:43 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Aug 15, 2014, 02:54:50 AM
anyone struggle with constant "worst case scenario" rumination?
I get that often where my depression and anxiety go hand-in-hand with catastrophic thinking. It's terrible.
It's terrible when it develops into a self-feeding downward spiral. It can literally get so bad that it manifests in the form of messing with your blood pressure, breathing and heartbeat rhythm.
Quote from: Eva on Aug 17, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
Quote from: Vickers on Aug 15, 2014, 11:14:43 AM
Quote from: Aspie on Aug 15, 2014, 02:54:50 AM
anyone struggle with constant "worst case scenario" rumination?
I get that often where my depression and anxiety go hand-in-hand with catastrophic thinking. It's terrible.
It's terrible when it develops into a self-feeding downward spiral. It can literally get so bad that it manifests in the form of messing with your blood pressure, breathing and heartbeat rhythm.
Yup. :(
I went to hospital because of how bad it got before and they didn't find anything wrong with my heart or lungs or blood work. But it did make me feel terrible.
Quote from: Vickers on Aug 17, 2014, 06:41:45 PM
Yup. :(
I went to hospital because of how bad it got before and they didn't find anything wrong with my heart or lungs or blood work. But it did make me feel terrible.
hugs :-*
Thanks. :-* I'm "fine" now but I do know where you're coming from.
I really need a place to speak my mind about my depression, and this place seems like the place to do it, since no one I know personally, looks at this site. Forgive me, I've had several glasses of wine, but I'm still coherent. I've been dealing with depression for a long time, mostly from the feeling of worthlessness. Like I didn't mean anything to the world and anything I had to offer was unwanted. I was getting better, but the early death of one our cats, because of my carelessness, put me back down into a deep depression. I know I shouldn't feel this way about an animal, but I can't help it- that cat was still part of the family, had a lot of love to give, had a soul and was strong and healthy. I work for Lyft, and while I was out, he got a hold of one of my beading needles and thread and swallowed it. We got the thread and needle out, but the needle made it into his brain, and even though the vet got it out, it caused an infection and that's what took his life. That's just a recent story to my depression. I do get thoughts of wanting to kill myself- but too cowardly to do it on my own. My strength comes from the fact that I am spiritual and I believe that I will see my kitty when I too pass. I hope that by joining the military, it will give me structure and purpose, and I will feel like I am worthwhile, that my life is worth something. That I'm not just some parasite. I don't want to hurt my family and friends, I know they love me- so to kill myself would only hurt them. I don't think that suicide is a sin, and I don't think that God is so merciless that He would send someone to hell for suicide. But that is my belief. I just don't want to hurt my family. I hate being in this dark place.
I apologize for putting on you guys. I needed to pour my heart out and if anyone, close to me, saw this, I know I would never hear the end of it. I just needed to say this to strangers. No I don't need medication or to see a professional. I need something that will give meaning to my life and help me move on from the fact that I accidentally killed an amazing and loving cat. Again, I'm sorry. I am going through a very hard time and I don't know how to deal with it.
I don't blame you if you don't respond, but I am depressed and I'm trying to work through it. I'll probably regret it in the morning, like most people regret over drinking when they wake up in the morning. Funny, my skin feels very numb... I'll just take some advil PM when I go to bed. Anyway, thanks for giving me an outlet to speak my troubled mind. I hope I'll heal eventually.
it's going to be okay Topa <3
you'll find what you are looking for. the mind can be an awful thing sometimes, but we can never let it beat us.
It's not really something you ever recover from. One can only hope to distract themselves long enough to not notice the depression gnawing away at them. The military could be good for that I suppose, unless it ends up being too much for you. Then, it would only making everything much worse. I recommend taking up some kind of hobby or learning some difficult skill.
Quote from: Topazora on Sep 28, 2014, 03:57:23 AM
I really need a place to speak my mind about my depression, and this place seems like the place to do it, since no one I know personally, looks at this site. Forgive me, I've had several glasses of wine, but I'm still coherent. I've been dealing with depression for a long time, mostly from the feeling of worthlessness. Like I didn't mean anything to the world and anything I had to offer was unwanted. I was getting better, but the early death of one our cats, because of my carelessness, put me back down into a deep depression. I know I shouldn't feel this way about an animal, but I can't help it- that cat was still part of the family, had a lot of love to give, had a soul and was strong and healthy. I work for Lyft, and while I was out, he got a hold of one of my beading needles and thread and swallowed it. We got the thread and needle out, but the needle made it into his brain, and even though the vet got it out, it caused an infection and that's what took his life. That's just a recent story to my depression. I do get thoughts of wanting to kill myself- but too cowardly to do it on my own. My strength comes from the fact that I am spiritual and I believe that I will see my kitty when I too pass. I hope that by joining the military, it will give me structure and purpose, and I will feel like I am worthwhile, that my life is worth something. That I'm not just some parasite. I don't want to hurt my family and friends, I know they love me- so to kill myself would only hurt them. I don't think that suicide is a sin, and I don't think that God is so merciless that He would send someone to hell for suicide. But that is my belief. I just don't want to hurt my family. I hate being in this dark place.
I apologize for putting on you guys. I needed to pour my heart out and if anyone, close to me, saw this, I know I would never hear the end of it. I just needed to say this to strangers. No I don't need medication or to see a professional. I need something that will give meaning to my life and help me move on from the fact that I accidentally killed an amazing and loving cat. Again, I'm sorry. I am going through a very hard time and I don't know how to deal with it.
I don't blame you if you don't respond, but I am depressed and I'm trying to work through it. I'll probably regret it in the morning, like most people regret over drinking when they wake up in the morning. Funny, my skin feels very numb... I'll just take some advil PM when I go to bed. Anyway, thanks for giving me an outlet to speak my troubled mind. I hope I'll heal eventually.
Seek help.
Don't join the military in a state of depression. The first couple of months of initial training where they are trying to get inside your head and see what your made of will only be amplified to the point where you are believing everything your head is telling you and the cadre are telling you.
Seek treatment and if you still want to go in completely healthy go for it.
There is a stigma about mental illness in the military. But they won't know if you don't tell them and they won't care if you don't bring it up. You have to be a little crazy to join anyhow.
Also cats do dumb shit. They will do dumb shit with you watching everything they are doing, and they will do dumb shit on their own. I doubt that cat is in the next stage of existence wishing ill on you because he ate a needle.
Quote from: Topazora on Sep 28, 2014, 03:57:23 AM
I really need a place to speak my mind about my depression, and this place seems like the place to do it, since no one I know personally, looks at this site. Forgive me, I've had several glasses of wine, but I'm still coherent. I've been dealing with depression for a long time, mostly from the feeling of worthlessness. Like I didn't mean anything to the world and anything I had to offer was unwanted. I was getting better, but the early death of one our cats, because of my carelessness, put me back down into a deep depression. I know I shouldn't feel this way about an animal, but I can't help it- that cat was still part of the family, had a lot of love to give, had a soul and was strong and healthy. I work for Lyft, and while I was out, he got a hold of one of my beading needles and thread and swallowed it. We got the thread and needle out, but the needle made it into his brain, and even though the vet got it out, it caused an infection and that's what took his life. That's just a recent story to my depression. I do get thoughts of wanting to kill myself- but too cowardly to do it on my own. My strength comes from the fact that I am spiritual and I believe that I will see my kitty when I too pass. I hope that by joining the military, it will give me structure and purpose, and I will feel like I am worthwhile, that my life is worth something. That I'm not just some parasite. I don't want to hurt my family and friends, I know they love me- so to kill myself would only hurt them. I don't think that suicide is a sin, and I don't think that God is so merciless that He would send someone to hell for suicide. But that is my belief. I just don't want to hurt my family. I hate being in this dark place.
I apologize for putting on you guys. I needed to pour my heart out and if anyone, close to me, saw this, I know I would never hear the end of it. I just needed to say this to strangers. No I don't need medication or to see a professional. I need something that will give meaning to my life and help me move on from the fact that I accidentally killed an amazing and loving cat. Again, I'm sorry. I am going through a very hard time and I don't know how to deal with it.
I don't blame you if you don't respond, but I am depressed and I'm trying to work through it. I'll probably regret it in the morning, like most people regret over drinking when they wake up in the morning. Funny, my skin feels very numb... I'll just take some advil PM when I go to bed. Anyway, thanks for giving me an outlet to speak my troubled mind. I hope I'll heal eventually.
So sorry to hear you going through this. I (and others here) suffer or suffered from depression as well. Have you seen a doctor about this? It's very important that people understand that depression is
not a state of mind, but an illness that needs treatment.
Please pm me of you want to talk, ask anything or just... speak what's on your mind. :)
f**k ocd and it's false guilt and intrusiveness
Quote from: Aspie on Sep 29, 2014, 11:02:22 PM
f**k ocd and it's false guilt and intrusiveness
Did you wash your hands Aspie?
LOL I miss those days :'(
Topazora, there's nothing more I can add to what has already been said but I do want to emphasize on the posts saying seek help. That is very important.
Psychologists and psychiatrists aren't all bad and all out to make money off of you not really caring about your wellbeing. Sometimes you just have go through more than one to find the right one. The same thing goes for medication.
I'm going through yet another dip but I'll be okay. I've been through this shit before. Trying to live in the present, and not in the past and future, is not always so easy.
Depression, anxiety and a bit of OCD is truly no fun.
Some days you just need someone to talk to. Not even necessarily about anything. Just shoot the breeze.
Quote from: Topazora on Sep 28, 2014, 03:57:23 AM
I really need a place to speak my mind about my depression, and this place seems like the place to do it, since no one I know personally, looks at this site. Forgive me, I've had several glasses of wine, but I'm still coherent. I've been dealing with depression for a long time, mostly from the feeling of worthlessness. Like I didn't mean anything to the world and anything I had to offer was unwanted. I was getting better, but the early death of one our cats, because of my carelessness, put me back down into a deep depression. I know I shouldn't feel this way about an animal, but I can't help it- that cat was still part of the family, had a lot of love to give, had a soul and was strong and healthy. I work for Lyft, and while I was out, he got a hold of one of my beading needles and thread and swallowed it. We got the thread and needle out, but the needle made it into his brain, and even though the vet got it out, it caused an infection and that's what took his life. That's just a recent story to my depression. I do get thoughts of wanting to kill myself- but too cowardly to do it on my own. My strength comes from the fact that I am spiritual and I believe that I will see my kitty when I too pass. I hope that by joining the military, it will give me structure and purpose, and I will feel like I am worthwhile, that my life is worth something. That I'm not just some parasite. I don't want to hurt my family and friends, I know they love me- so to kill myself would only hurt them. I don't think that suicide is a sin, and I don't think that God is so merciless that He would send someone to hell for suicide. But that is my belief. I just don't want to hurt my family. I hate being in this dark place.
I apologize for putting on you guys. I needed to pour my heart out and if anyone, close to me, saw this, I know I would never hear the end of it. I just needed to say this to strangers. No I don't need medication or to see a professional. I need something that will give meaning to my life and help me move on from the fact that I accidentally killed an amazing and loving cat. Again, I'm sorry. I am going through a very hard time and I don't know how to deal with it.
I don't blame you if you don't respond, but I am depressed and I'm trying to work through it. I'll probably regret it in the morning, like most people regret over drinking when they wake up in the morning. Funny, my skin feels very numb... I'll just take some advil PM when I go to bed. Anyway, thanks for giving me an outlet to speak my troubled mind. I hope I'll heal eventually.
I'm terribly sorry for this. As others have said, seeking help is the best option. Even finding someone to just talk with is a good idea. Stay strong.
Quote from: Topazora on Sep 28, 2014, 03:57:23 AM
I really need a place to speak my mind about my depression, and this place seems like the place to do it, since no one I know personally, looks at this site. Forgive me, I've had several glasses of wine, but I'm still coherent. I've been dealing with depression for a long time, mostly from the feeling of worthlessness. Like I didn't mean anything to the world and anything I had to offer was unwanted. I was getting better, but the early death of one our cats, because of my carelessness, put me back down into a deep depression. I know I shouldn't feel this way about an animal, but I can't help it- that cat was still part of the family, had a lot of love to give, had a soul and was strong and healthy. I work for Lyft, and while I was out, he got a hold of one of my beading needles and thread and swallowed it. We got the thread and needle out, but the needle made it into his brain, and even though the vet got it out, it caused an infection and that's what took his life. That's just a recent story to my depression. I do get thoughts of wanting to kill myself- but too cowardly to do it on my own. My strength comes from the fact that I am spiritual and I believe that I will see my kitty when I too pass. I hope that by joining the military, it will give me structure and purpose, and I will feel like I am worthwhile, that my life is worth something. That I'm not just some parasite. I don't want to hurt my family and friends, I know they love me- so to kill myself would only hurt them. I don't think that suicide is a sin, and I don't think that God is so merciless that He would send someone to hell for suicide. But that is my belief. I just don't want to hurt my family. I hate being in this dark place.
I apologize for putting on you guys. I needed to pour my heart out and if anyone, close to me, saw this, I know I would never hear the end of it. I just needed to say this to strangers. No I don't need medication or to see a professional. I need something that will give meaning to my life and help me move on from the fact that I accidentally killed an amazing and loving cat. Again, I'm sorry. I am going through a very hard time and I don't know how to deal with it.
I don't blame you if you don't respond, but I am depressed and I'm trying to work through it. I'll probably regret it in the morning, like most people regret over drinking when they wake up in the morning. Funny, my skin feels very numb... I'll just take some advil PM when I go to bed. Anyway, thanks for giving me an outlet to speak my troubled mind. I hope I'll heal eventually.
Wish you the best man. I think the military would be good for you. Suicide is never the answer man and your life is precious. You only got one and try to live it up. Keep fighting the depression man. You'll get through it.
You don't want to go through basic training/OCS with anything less than perfect mental health.
That shit is meant to be rough and will seem much rougher than what it is if your already hurting mentally.
Not saying she shouldn't do it, just needs to get the help she needs to get first.
The military is an institution. It'll be around as long as the US is around. It isn't going anywhere.
Quote from: Chronicle on Oct 02, 2014, 03:30:28 AM
Quote from: Topazora on Sep 28, 2014, 03:57:23 AM
I really need a place to speak my mind about my depression, and this place seems like the place to do it, since no one I know personally, looks at this site. Forgive me, I've had several glasses of wine, but I'm still coherent. I've been dealing with depression for a long time, mostly from the feeling of worthlessness. Like I didn't mean anything to the world and anything I had to offer was unwanted. I was getting better, but the early death of one our cats, because of my carelessness, put me back down into a deep depression. I know I shouldn't feel this way about an animal, but I can't help it- that cat was still part of the family, had a lot of love to give, had a soul and was strong and healthy. I work for Lyft, and while I was out, he got a hold of one of my beading needles and thread and swallowed it. We got the thread and needle out, but the needle made it into his brain, and even though the vet got it out, it caused an infection and that's what took his life. That's just a recent story to my depression. I do get thoughts of wanting to kill myself- but too cowardly to do it on my own. My strength comes from the fact that I am spiritual and I believe that I will see my kitty when I too pass. I hope that by joining the military, it will give me structure and purpose, and I will feel like I am worthwhile, that my life is worth something. That I'm not just some parasite. I don't want to hurt my family and friends, I know they love me- so to kill myself would only hurt them. I don't think that suicide is a sin, and I don't think that God is so merciless that He would send someone to hell for suicide. But that is my belief. I just don't want to hurt my family. I hate being in this dark place.
I apologize for putting on you guys. I needed to pour my heart out and if anyone, close to me, saw this, I know I would never hear the end of it. I just needed to say this to strangers. No I don't need medication or to see a professional. I need something that will give meaning to my life and help me move on from the fact that I accidentally killed an amazing and loving cat. Again, I'm sorry. I am going through a very hard time and I don't know how to deal with it.
I don't blame you if you don't respond, but I am depressed and I'm trying to work through it. I'll probably regret it in the morning, like most people regret over drinking when they wake up in the morning. Funny, my skin feels very numb... I'll just take some advil PM when I go to bed. Anyway, thanks for giving me an outlet to speak my troubled mind. I hope I'll heal eventually.
Wish you the best man. I think the military would be good for you. Suicide is never the answer man and your life is precious. You only got one and try to live it up. Keep fighting the depression man. You'll get through it.
Stop giving shitty advice. You're going to make him want to kill himself.
Topa is a girl
PFFFFFFFT, there's no girls on the internet.
AND YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE YOU'RE FROM MORDOR?!
Haha ok ok.
http://ki.se/en/news/how-physical-exercise-protects-the-brain-from-stress-induced-depression (http://ki.se/en/news/how-physical-exercise-protects-the-brain-from-stress-induced-depression)
I admit it gave me great pleasure when I complained about Risperidone and then only a few months later law suit commercials started blasting left and right about it.
Now if people could only be properly informed on a large scale about how poor an option antidepressants are for treating depression.
They are one part of the solution. Not cure-alls.
Quote from: SM on Oct 03, 2014, 08:30:40 PM
They are one part of the solution. Not cure-alls.
Can be one part of the solution. In addition to having to find the right one for the right person, some people simply don't respond well to any of the commercial medications. People should still
try of course, rather than avoiding meds after a single bad experience.
Quote from: SM on Oct 03, 2014, 08:30:40 PM
They are one part of the solution. Not cure-alls.
Ideally their current incarnation isn't even in the picture.
My old thinking was that the pharmaceutical conglomerates are exploiting the dark corner that is public knowledge of mental illness, and that medication is only mildly effective but carries alarming side effects (that are strangely not talked about), in which case people and their children are not being treated, but preyed upon.
Additionally, I thought the issue was being further compounded by it being culturally and socially in-grained such that public opinion is generally that medication is a first-line treatment or that an SSRI prescription is in some way comparable to getting a flu shot, when really it's just greed being concealed by the wide spread and largely un-conscious naivety that science can only be used for good, or the tendency for people to be stubborn to change because they won't admit they've been lead astray when everything points to it. I also make honorable mention that the educated know the uneducated will eat up everything they say.
But then I decided the source of the problem is the subtle and ongoing encouragement of helplessness, and that fixing this would be the equivalent of taking down the mothership of first world oppression.
And no, I'm not bashing people with severe depression, I'm bashing both the people that pretend to be the authority on diagnosing and treating human suffering, and the people that never make an effort to become skilled in finding good information, so when they do become severely depressed, they have no course of action
but to gamble with their own quality of life and step into the impersonal meat grinder described above.
I wish I had a nickle for every time you used the words "I", "I'm" or "My".
Quote from: Cvalda on Oct 03, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
I wish I had a nickle for every time you used the words "I", "I'm" or "My".
There's 25 cents right there...
Quote from: BANE on Oct 03, 2014, 10:22:03 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Oct 03, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
I wish I had a nickle for every time you used the words "I", "I'm" or "My".
There's 25 cents right there...
That's half a can of soda.
Cans of soda don't cost fifty cents anymore, this ain't 1993.
They do at my work.
No one wants your Made in China off-brand Sam's Club soda.
Nigga, I'm talking about the vending machine.
Quote from: Cvalda on Oct 03, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
I wish I had a nickle for every time you used the words "I", "I'm" or "My".
I can see a few circumstances where I might want to write out my posts differently solely for the sake of anyone reading them, but I'm thinking it would be much more amusing on my end to see if I can actually troll in this manner, now that you've brought it to my attention.
Quote from: Cvalda on Oct 03, 2014, 10:26:00 PM
No one wants your Made in China off-brand Sam's Club soda.
Sam's Crub Soda
QuoteAnd no, I'm not bashing people with severe depression, I'm bashing both the people that pretend to be the authority on diagnosing and treating human suffering, and the people that never make an effort to become skilled in finding good information, so when they do become severely depressed, they have no course of action but to gamble with their own quality of life and step into the impersonal meat grinder described above.
Shit, we better all get medical degrees in case we get sick, eh? And law degrees in case we have to go to court, and pilots licenses in case we want to fly anywhere...
damn straight
Everyone should be a master of all trades.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 03, 2014, 10:17:04 PM
And no, I'm not bashing people with severe depression, I'm bashing both the people that pretend to be the authority on diagnosing and treating human suffering...
Nobody is pretending to be the authority on diagnosing and treating human suffering. Apart from those who actually are experienced and have studied in this field. People here are simply passing on their own advice from personal experience.
Quote...the people that never make an effort to become skilled in finding good information, so when they do become severely depressed, they have no course of action but to gamble with their own quality of life and step into the impersonal meat grinder described above.
Are you even realising what you're saying? Is
severe depression quality of life? What are you gambling if you have nothing to gamble with? Before I went on medication I was very weary and I believed that I would become numb to everything and feel generally crappy. And then I realised I was feeling generally crappy anyway, so what did I have to lose?
This "impersonal meat grinder" you describe is also a familiar place for some people who aren't on medication.
It's really a case of someone trying different things and seeing what works for them. And sometimes medication does help a lot.
There is such a stigma around mental illness and often people don't get help because they're conditioned to believe that psychologists and psychiatrists are just trying to milk them for all they are worth and that any medication prescribed will just make them feel zoned out. There are of course cases where this is true but they are never dead ends; just very big obstacles for people who are suffering with a mental illness.
Xeno obviously has some issues, but I bet he's in denial about it because he thinks other people with issues are weak ◦°˚\(*❛‿❛)/˚°◦
Xeno just beat your face guy.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 03, 2014, 10:17:04 PM
But then I decided the source of the problem is the subtle and ongoing encouragement of helplessness, and that fixing this would be the equivalent of taking down the mothership of first world oppression.
And no, I'm not bashing people with severe depression, I'm bashing both the people that pretend to be the authority on diagnosing and treating human suffering, and the people that never make an effort to become skilled in finding good information, so when they do become severely depressed, they have no course of action but to gamble with their own quality of life and step into the impersonal meat grinder described above.
There is unfortunately still no effective substitute for anti depressants (and they can have a variety of dreadful side effects, true) . In that context, whether big pharma makes billions on these drugs or not, is somewhat irrelevant for most people suffering from the illness; they have no alternatives.
For some severely depressed people, the alternative to medicine is suicide. Whether and how that simple and horrific fact of life fits into your world view or not, I don't know...
I suffer depression and I have a psychotic disorder. Everyday I have to take a mood stabilizer, anti-psychotic and anti-depressants. I hate it. I'm suicidal without my meds. That's all I wanna say on it really. Don't like talking about it all to much.
Quote from: Vickers on Oct 05, 2014, 11:34:35 PM
Nobody is pretending to be the authority on diagnosing and treating human suffering. Apart from those who actually are experienced and have studied in this field. People here are simply passing on their own advice from personal experience.
I was specifically talking only about those who study and practice in these fields---they're full of shit and can hide it very well--yet it's a mistake to take this personally because being
full of shit is hardly limited to this area, and a lot of genuinely nice people are afflicted by the condition. You just smile and keep nodding in these situations.
Quote from: Vickers on Oct 05, 2014, 11:34:35 PM
Are you even realising what you're saying? Is severe depression quality of life? What are you gambling if you have nothing to gamble with? Before I went on medication I was very weary and I believed that I would become numb to everything and feel generally crappy. And then I realized I was feeling generally crappy anyway, so what did I have to lose?
If you look at people who suffer similar physical injuries or illnesses, the ones who fare better tend to be the ones in better shape to begin with.
Regarding situational mental illness, if you have eyes to see this could happen to you, then is it not gambling with one's quality of life by not taking preventative measures----that is, adopting daily habits that keep you from slowly unraveling and also by building resilience to stress?
And I know there is not much to save or much to live for when you are depressed, that is why it is depression---I was referring to the person who does have something to lose, and IS in a position to take responsibility for their own well being, outside a depressive episode, not the fleshy imposter that looks like a person during one.
Quote from: Vickers on Oct 05, 2014, 11:34:35 PM
It's really a case of someone trying different things and seeing what works for them. And sometimes medication does help a lot.
Yes, and people can get better for any and all sorts of reasons, including no apparent reason at all, but isn't it a shame most people have to be really hurt first before they'll avoid the things they already knew were hurting them?
Quote from: Cvalda on Oct 05, 2014, 11:37:38 PM
Xeno obviously has some issues
I tried therapy but ended up leaving with more issues than I began with. Something about counseling and being antisocial don't mix :-[
Nevertheless, my issues are mine; you can't have them.
Quote from: Cvalda on Oct 05, 2014, 11:37:38 PM
but I bet he's in denial about it because he thinks other people with issues are weak ◦°˚\(*❛‿❛)/˚°◦
My weakness is weak people.
This thread's been up since April and the title still has 'Aniexty' in it.
Uuuuuuggggghhhhhhhhhh
Are you feeling aniexty right now OmegaZilla?
Quote from: Crazy Rich on Oct 06, 2014, 06:24:15 AM
Are you feeling aniexty right now OmegaZilla?
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Therapists are full of shit because Xeno Killer had a bad experience!
Also everyone who is depressed must have brought this on themselves and they should have tried to prevent it.
::)
I stand by what I said.
The majority of mental illness is nowhere near as complicated as certain individuals would have you believe, and can be prevented very much like obesity can.
As for therapy, I think it's shit for the limited range of things a licensed therapist can say or do to help, and no matter how much a person is reminded they have to do the hard work, it promotes the idea that because a professional is there, you can be lazy about your own recovery.
and it's not a bad experience, its half a f**king lifetime getting shuffled around, medicated, put in inpatient, etc
Xeno, you clearly have no idea how the mental health system works. I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience, but 'the professionals' are not there to lock you into the system forever so they can peddle medication and not actually help you.
I've suffered from mental issues my whole life, and only in recent years have I tried to fix them, and the system was there the whole time. I'm going out and making friends and feeling like a functional and happy adult for the first time in my life.
Holy f**k, look who it is.
jesus made xeno do it sabby.
Flabby Sabby, you savvy, not too shabby I'm working off of 5 pints and loving it.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 06, 2014, 08:14:09 PM
I stand by what I said.
The majority of mental illness is nowhere near as complicated as certain individuals would have you believe, and can be prevented very much like obesity can.
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but that's just nonsense imo.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 06, 2014, 08:14:09 PM
I stand by what I said.
The majority of mental illness is nowhere near as complicated as certain individuals would have you believe, and can be prevented very much like obesity can.
As for therapy, I think it's shit for the limited range of things a licensed therapist can say or do to help, and no matter how much a person is reminded they have to do the hard work, it promotes the idea that because a professional is there, you can be lazy about your own recovery.
and it's not a bad experience, its half a f**king lifetime getting shuffled around, medicated, put in inpatient, etc
Sorry but all your posts reek of "I had a bad experience so it must be bad." And now you're bitter and trying to make everyone else feel worse about being depressed and whatever methods they may seek out.
I will agree that the system certainly isn't perfect. I just forgot my pills yesterday and woke up feeling like my face was on fire :/
..........that's the brimstone
and this is what happens when I get too afraid to log back on...... thank you for the responses, I didn't think there would be anything to my alcohol induced rant. I'm trying to keeping myself busy. I'm not feeling like the piece of shit I did a couple of weeks ago. I don't know how much seeking professional help. Most of my depression comes from feeling pretty worthless, which is probably not rare. I just need to accomplish something and actually start doing something. So far, the weight loss helps, its something.
how much weight have u loss gurrrrrl
well, since I started losing weight, 55lbs. Went down from 220 and am now 165, 15lbs till my target weight: 150.
Just take care of yourself now.
If you decide to stick with the military both bootcamp/ocs are designed to test you both physically and mentally. Mental hiccups are just like physical ones. If you go with a physical injury into the military its going to be found out with all the exercise. If you go into it with a mental injury then its going to be found out with the silly punishments, sleep depravation, intensity of the situation etc. Its actually almost all mental....even the physical stuff is.
We had people quit before we even made it to basic because of sleep depravation. Four days with four total hours of sleep. Its just so much easier if you go in with good mental health/mindset.
Aside from that you should have good mental health in your life even if the military is not an option. Don't be worried about other people, other people aren't you.
note to self
never ever forget to take my meds
you know you forget your meds every day crazy
Quote from: Eva on Oct 06, 2014, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 06, 2014, 08:14:09 PMThe majority of mental illness is nowhere near as complicated as certain individuals would have you believe, and can be prevented very much like obesity can.
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but that's just nonsense imo.
These illnesses, mental disturbances I speak of, are indeed extremely simple; the truly complicated part is getting people to see it.
Yours maybe the state of mind that dominates now, but it won't last. The illusions and false complexities held dearly by so many will come to an end.
Quote from: Vickers on Oct 06, 2014, 11:16:48 PM
Sorry but all your posts reek of "I had a bad experience so it must be bad." And now you're bitter and trying to make everyone else feel worse about being depressed and whatever methods they may seek out.
I'm sure there is at least one bitter person in this topic, but it's not me. I escaped that drama some time ago and can poke fun at things.
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And to the one who made the Jesus comment, some of you have undoubtedly seen my work in the theology thread....
It's ok. I know many of you reading this have been conditioned to feel nervous around my kind, but those hairs on the back of your neck are telling lies.
There's no need to be scared; I have glimpsed things to come.....there will be no need for belief where we're headed.
And you are not my enemy; the beast that speaks through you is, the beast hiding in all of you. Because when it has been excised, the tragedy of having a pedestrian perception of reality, a tragedy I see everyday, might become curable. If only you knew how much better the view is up here.
day 7,762
And so i fade off into the sunset
with only one question on my mind:
Spoiler
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Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 09, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
There's no need to be scared; I have glimpsed things to come.....there will be no need for belief where we're headed.
Please expand on this.
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Sorry, no spoilers ;)
Quote from: SM on Oct 09, 2014, 08:55:31 PM
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Laughing so hard right now.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 09, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
Quote from: Eva on Oct 06, 2014, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 06, 2014, 08:14:09 PMThe majority of mental illness is nowhere near as complicated as certain individuals would have you believe, and can be prevented very much like obesity can.
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but that's just nonsense imo.
These illnesses, mental disturbances I speak of, are indeed extremely simple; the truly complicated part is getting people to see it.
Yours maybe the state of mind that dominates now, but it won't last. The illusions and false complexities held dearly by so many will come to an end.
Quote from: Vickers on Oct 06, 2014, 11:16:48 PM
Sorry but all your posts reek of "I had a bad experience so it must be bad." And now you're bitter and trying to make everyone else feel worse about being depressed and whatever methods they may seek out.
I'm sure there is at least one bitter person in this topic, but it's not me. I escaped that drama some time ago and can poke fun at things.
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And to the one who made the Jesus comment, some of you have undoubtedly seen my work in the theology thread....
It's ok. I know many of you reading this have been conditioned to feel nervous around my kind, but those hairs on the back of your neck are telling lies.
There's no need to be scared; I have glimpsed things to come.....there will be no need for belief where we're headed.
And you are not my enemy; the beast that speaks through you is, the beast hiding in all of you. Because when it has been excised, the tragedy of having a pedestrian perception of reality, a tragedy I see everyday, might become curable. If only you knew how much better the view is up here.
day 7,762
And so i fade off into the sunset
with only one question on my mind:
Spoiler
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Haha you're kind of hilarious
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 09, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
It's ok. I know many of you reading this have been conditioned to feel nervous around my kind, but those hairs on the back of your neck are telling lies.
Sounds like a great way to dismiss all criticism.
sabby we're on such different wavelengths one of us may as well not be human
my advice is let it go
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 09, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
It's ok. I know many of you reading this have been conditioned to feel nervous around my kind, but those hairs on the back of your neck are telling lies.
There's no need to be scared; I have glimpsed things to come.....there will be no need for belief where we're headed.
And you are not my enemy; the beast that speaks through you is, the beast hiding in all of you. Because when it has been excised, the tragedy of having a pedestrian perception of reality, a tragedy I see everyday, might become curable. If only you knew how much better the view is up here.
day 7,762
And so i fade off into the sunset
with only one question on my mind:
Spoiler
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Let's see what Xeno sa-
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-Nope.
BALONEY
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 09, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
There's no need to be scared; I have glimpsed things to come.....there will be no need for belief where we're headed.
Pfft! I've seen things you people wouldn't believe!
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 10, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 09, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
There's no need to be scared; I have glimpsed things to come.....there will be no need for belief where we're headed.
Pfft! I've seen things you people wouldn't believe!
I've seen things that will turn you white!
Yeah, well, it looks like I am broken too now. Everything was going SO WELL but now there's no point in doing anything anymore. I don't see any reason to get up in the morning. Its just pitch black darkness, there's no way out I can't see the way out/ It seems that no matter what I do, its all for nothing. I wish I could die but I can't commit suicide. I am too weak (or too insane) to do it. To do something like this you have to be very strong. I guess I am not that strong as I thought. The life is a decease and death is the only cure but I can't cure myself. The worst part is the weight. I feel like I carry 25kg stone in my chest.
I also had some depressions back in my youth (around the age from 18 to 23 or so), but I never took medications. I then got married and got a baby girl and everything was almost gone. When I read so many guys of you suffer from depressions and got medicated I kinda question the health system of yours. Do most of you guys live in the US? Over here (in Germany) I don't know anyone having serious depressions or even got medicated because of it.
I'm also kind of a misanthrop. I don't like to get introduced to new people, also don't like to go to places with many people. And I rarely like other people besides my closest family and friends.
Once I stop doing things, I start thinking in circles, then meta thinking about thought itself. It's a real challenge just to find a pattern that can keep me occupied to the point that I won't start thinking that nothing is real.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 07, 2015, 08:05:03 PM
Once I stop doing things, I start thinking in circles, then meta thinking about thought itself. It's a real challenge just to find a pattern that can keep me occupied to the point that I won't start thinking that nothing is real.
I find meta-thinking is a real hurdle to getting things done, but with the correct thought structures to use as tools it can also provide the boost to get over the hurdle. Of course, abstracting yourself from your own thoughts can just lead to depersonalisation if it's not the right fit for you.
http://www.reddit.com/r/depression/comments/2vglnl/is_there_a_point_to_any_of_it/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/depression/comments/2vglnl/is_there_a_point_to_any_of_it/) my concern exactly
Just go full NEET and live on autismbux.
I just got out of a 2 maybe 3 week depression. I don't think I have had this happen for long before. It feels like at least for me when I do get like this I have to hit a wall before I start to get better. On Friday is when I hit that wall and I just shut down but then woke up fine. I don't know if its normal to have it going on that long. Anyone?
Define normal? Mine can go for moths before improving.
Depression is very easy to get out of. It requires a bit of work and mental calculation, but it can be done.
Main thing is to avoid the psychiatric industry, as they are only interested in profit.
You seem to be under the impression that there's no difference between ennui and mental illness.
Quote from: MCP on Feb 25, 2015, 05:05:35 AM
Depression is very easy to get out of. It requires a bit of work and mental calculation, but it can be done.
Main thing is to avoid the psychiatric industry, as they are only interested in profit.
Ow, so all that progress I made was in my head and I was just being robbed?
Quote from: Sabby on Mar 01, 2015, 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: MCP on Feb 25, 2015, 05:05:35 AM
Depression is very easy to get out of. It requires a bit of work and mental calculation, but it can be done.
Main thing is to avoid the psychiatric industry, as they are only interested in profit.
Ow, so all that progress I made was in my head and I was just being robbed?
In some circles the whole universe is in your head.
I tried shrinks, medications.. none of it worked. Maybe if you want to suck your brain out and become a zombie.
Life has its angst. You just have to deal with it.
Yeah, just deal with the chemical imbalance. That's how that works.
For some people, that really is how it works.
I was psychotic for several months recently and simply willed myself out of it.
Quote from: Sabby on Mar 04, 2015, 04:09:00 AM
Yeah, just deal with the chemical imbalance. That's how that works.
That term is unscientific. There is no such thing as a 'chemical imbalance'. It is not a malfunction of the brain like alzheimer's or parkinson's.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Mar 04, 2015, 04:32:58 AM
For some people, that really is how it works.
I was psychotic for several months recently and simply willed myself out of it.
Are you being sarcastic?
No, I was severely delusional, thinking the tv was commenting on me, scared my dog was learning to talk. etc.
It's what they call a latent psychosis....basically you seem normal but the slightest change while in that state of mind and everyone will see that you're in another world.
It's happened a few times. I just ignore these thoughts and make an effort to stop believing them and the paranoia goes away, sometimes completely. I don't hallucinate so it's not really schizophrenia or some organic problem (and so meds have no effect on it)
Hell no, those drugs do work. When people jump off of their meds bad things always happen. Sure the side effects aren't always pretty but chemical imbalances which lead to mental illness can be treated with pharmaceuticals.
Quote from: MCP on Mar 04, 2015, 04:34:20 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Mar 04, 2015, 04:09:00 AM
Yeah, just deal with the chemical imbalance. That's how that works.
That term is unscientific. There is no such thing as a 'chemical imbalance'. It is not a malfunction of the brain like alzheimer's or parkinson's.
Really? What's the proper term, if you know? All I meant was that if you have serious depression or anything that is a major mood and behavior alterer, it can be nearly impossible to 'just beat it'. It's like asking someone who can't feel happiness to just think happy thoughts.
While "chemical imbalance" is an awfully vague term with no scientific value, it is absolutely quantifiable that some people, for whatever reason(s), over-produce stress hormones or under-produce other native chemistry, often leading to altered moods. You're welcome to provide evidence that it's all quackery though. :)
I think it is socially unacceptable to use the term "chemical imbalance" to describe mental illness in the same way you can't call a person with cognitive disabilities as mentally retarded.
So, is mind-numbing drugs the cure for the human soul? :o
Who are these evil doctors peddling brain destroying Sheep Pills I keep hearing about? It seems these discussions always start with "Depression can be fought with a good mindset and lifestyle" and when people point out that's bullshit, it's "Oh, well doctors are evil".
Yeah it's GPs who always want to throw zombie pills at me, never shrinks. Sabby, you too are missing the point, in that depression totally can be fought with good mindset and lifestyle - if it's minor depression. There's a world of difference between that and long term depression though.
I honestly think a good amount of people are reacting to very shitty surroundings and patterns of living. People are essentially just animals, and despite common opinion, we are still highly instinctual beings that have next to no ability to see the base cause--effect of things in our day to day lives.
If you have never noticed the pill pushers, you have never been that involved with the system, or are unwilling to see it.
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And yes, the term chemical imbalance is a crock of psuedo-science bullshit that invalidates and sweeps under the rug any real attempt at understanding what is happening.
"Durr hurrr it's just an imbalance"
I tend to see the people who use the phrase as no different from ancients sacrificing members of the tribe to their gods to keep them happy.
It's the thinking of people that surrender any and all control over themselves they might have because of what other people say or do.
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And no drugs "treat" mental illness---psychiatrists know this. These drugs essentially alter the brains functioning until the people observing the patient no longer see them as being problematic or at risk of injury to self or others.
It's basically sedating and numbing away a part of the brain to lower the volume of dysfunction, rather than healing the dysfunction. This has both short and long term health implications by itself.
With depression sometimes this is more like being pushed out of a rut, which is fine when the meds can be stopped, but the problem is the low success rate of meds, not knowing how they work, knowing little how they effect kids despite kids getting prescribed them, and the sheer volume of this crud being consumed.
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And in response to Cancerblack, a GP made me horribly sick giving me an antipsychotic without telling me what it was, then months later lawsuit commercials for said medication were blasting every 10 minutes.
Why did you take medication without knowing what it was???
The doctor actually said it was for sleep because I had insomnia.
So I was mislead.
Fookin hell. I hope you gave him hell for that.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Mar 04, 2015, 07:57:49 PMIf you have never noticed the pill pushers, you have never been that involved with the system, or are unwilling to see it.
I love when people tell me what my experience must have been. Look man, I've suffered severe depression and even schizophrenia for most of my life. Thinking positive, eating well, being active, all about as effective as willing your car to move when it has no wheels. Medication has been the only reliable way of regulating my moods and giving me a stable mindset to start building on. I'm 26 years old and I'm learning people skills I should have been learning when I was 10. The only reason it's taken me this long to start fixing my brain was I fell into the same anti-psychiatric nonsense I keep seeing in this thread. Yes, shrinks are too quick to give out meds, everyone agrees on this, and it should be fixed, but living in denial and trying to legitimize that feeling as some informed stance on the mental health industry is only holding you back from real help.
Guess where I get my pills from? A free clinic. Yeah, I get prescriptions from the mall cop variant of doctors. I've only needed to go to an actual professional a few times in my life, and still these half trained med school drop outs who can barely speak english have been more help to me any amount of positive thinking.
I've seen nurses that don't seem to have much grasp of the system they work in everyday, so that's not saying much.
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I agree positive thinking, meditation, breathing exercises, etc. are all crap.
But certain things, like a habit of sleeping in too late in the day, eating junk, low vitamin D, not going outside, these will f**k you hard over time and in the subtlest ways. Of course this is meaningless if these don't apply to you.
And I'm not bashing you over something that's working for you, but denial is underrated, imo......It is a skill, and I think a lot of people would be happier if they worked at identifying and eliminating the harmful beliefs and patterns they've accumulated. Even if you have some neuro/organic problem.....I see autistic people and schizophrenics, bipolars, etc....they get these jaded thought styles that co-occur with their illness and make them miserable and unpleasant even when they aren't having an episode. A base resilience to a lot of the crap we see and even what we tell ourselves can go a long way.
I'm not completely anti psychiatry, but the topic is very personal for me because I've had such a long drawn-out series of ineffective and inappropriate treatments, so the mere thought of anyone going through shenanigans feels to me like someone getting falsely convicted of a crime.
My cat was just prescribed Prozac today. :-\
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 05, 2015, 05:46:37 AM
My cat was just prescribed Prozac today. :-\
Your joking me right :laugh:
My cat that recently died about a week ago had terrible allergy problems. The vet considered offering Shyloh a cat inhaler since he had trouble breathing at times.
Funny as hell personally :laugh:
Quote from: Chronicle on Mar 06, 2015, 03:29:10 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 05, 2015, 05:46:37 AM
My cat was just prescribed Prozac today. :-\
Your joking me right :laugh:
My cat that recently died about a week ago had terrible allergy problems. The vet considered offering Shyloh a cat inhaler since he had trouble breathing at times.
Funny as hell personally :laugh:
No, and that is terrible. :'(
Does anyone think impulsive aggression in a wiener dog could be low serotonin? I need armchair pet psychiatrists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2953915/Scientists-cannabis-TRIPLES-psychosis-risk-Groundbreaking-research-blames-skunk-1-4-new-mental-disorders.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2953915/Scientists-cannabis-TRIPLES-psychosis-risk-Groundbreaking-research-blames-skunk-1-4-new-mental-disorders.html)
Now I know they're pot smokers here, and I mean not to offend anyone... but everyone I know that smokes weed personally is either annoying or a jerk. It doesn't matter if you have money or not, family or not. Their kids grow up struggling, they live struggling and always end up causing everyone else problems that is somehow someonelse's fault. I can't see how weed is "safe" when the crap I see with my own eyes speak otherwise.
I'm not including terminally ill people or other medicinal uses, such as increased appetite and the fact that it is safer than a shit-ton of pharmaceuticals into that blanket statement I made. It should be treated like any other chemical and regulated.
Funny, I know plenty of people who don't drink, smoke weed or like Superhero films who are jerks
Quote from: whiterabbit on Apr 23, 2015, 12:58:12 PM
Now I know they're pot smokers here, and I mean not to offend anyone... but everyone I know that smokes weed personally is either annoying or a jerk. It doesn't matter if you have money or not, family or not. Their kids grow up struggling, they live struggling and always end up causing everyone else problems that is somehow someonelse's fault. I can't see how weed is "safe" when the crap I see with my own eyes speak otherwise.
I'm not including terminally ill people or other medicinal uses, such as increased appetite and the fact that it is safer than a shit-ton of pharmaceuticals into that blanket statement I made. It should be treated like any other chemical and regulated.
You sound like my nana.
After reading about the relationship between inflammation and physical and mental health problems, I discovered that I had a polyester allergy, finally providing explanations of why I felt like shit sitting in a certain chair, sleeping in bed, and general itchiness throughout the day. I have no idea the extent of damage already done by chronic immune responses, but just more food for thought.
I may as well throw my two pennies into this thread.
I've officially started taking anti-depressants after a near mental (somewhat suicidal) meltdown occurred at my place of work, not just my job that was causing the stress but alot of personal matters and family related ones that have been ebbing away at me for nearly a year. I've had depression for quite many years but never sought help or advice but I kept convincing myself there was nothing wrong. The worst thing in my case (although I'm betting I'm not alone) is that depression makes you feeling bad for feeling bad.
I'm taking sertraline, it is having an effect on me and has kept me feeling as bad as I was feeling over a month ago. My life is starting to take a turn for the better although still diligently taking the meds.
I work in Money Management for a bank, basically dealing with customers who are experiencing financial troubles and helping setting up overdrafts etc. I've spoken to a few who are suffering from depression and I personally tell them that I've had a history of it including self harming since school, they come across as quite surprised that they are speaking to someone in the same boat. My view is that a problem shared is a problem halved and always say that always be with people you love when you feel it bearing down on you.
That is what I did when it was at it's worst, went to see my parents. I love all who are in my life.
I feel better telling you guys this in fact. Considering that I rarely post these days, that does speak volumes. :)
I've had a rough couple of weeks, nightmares, panic attacks. It comes around three or four times a year. Normally I have methods to deal with my condition when it gets worse, but for the last few weeks it's been relentless, to the point where I honestly don't know what to do. Not to exaggerate but it is slowly killing me one day at a time
Quote from: Novak 1334 on May 22, 2015, 04:07:29 AM
I've had a rough couple of weeks, nightmares, panic attacks. It comes around three or four times a year. Normally I have methods to deal with my condition when it gets worse, but for the last few weeks it's been relentless, to the point where I honestly don't know what to do. Not to exaggerate but it is slowly killing me one day at a time
Seek help, whether it be your family, friends or trained professionals, don't suffer in silence. My family and friends have saved my life without even knowing it. If you need someone to talk to give me a shout via private inbox and I'll speak to you via email or facebook my friend.
I'm actually glad this (http://thysweetpoison.tumblr.com/post/126073401917/understanding-how-depression-feels-via-buzzfeed) exists because it's a good example.
Aside from that my situational anxiety has been creeping around lately. But I've gotten more of the "disconnected from everything" feeling going on, which explains why I've lost some interest in video games and what-not. It's not bad certain days, but some days it's horrible. Then parents play the "it's all in your head" card, like no it's not. I feel like the walking dead but I gotta cover that up with trying to be happy. Fake it 'til you make it, right? ::)
I mean, I'm not suicidal, it's just that "I wanna lay around all day until I feel better" mood.
I know the feeling. For me it's a complete lack of motivation to do anything, from work to getting dressed. I've wasted so many days under my bed covers waiting for it to go away
Quote from: whiterabbit on Apr 23, 2015, 12:58:12 PM
Now I know they're pot smokers here, and I mean not to offend anyone... but everyone I know that smokes weed personally is either annoying or a jerk. It doesn't matter if you have money or not, family or not. Their kids grow up struggling, they live struggling and always end up causing everyone else problems that is somehow someonelse's fault. I can't see how weed is "safe" when the crap I see with my own eyes speak otherwise.
I'm not including terminally ill people or other medicinal uses, such as increased appetite and the fact that it is safer than a shit-ton of pharmaceuticals into that blanket statement I made. It should be treated like any other chemical and regulated.
Thats very true, I would lie if I was saying I don't smoke but yes it is a chemical and yes it can mess with your mind a little bit. To clear this up Pot is waaaaayyy less destructive than alcohol. Its proven to help in so many ways medicinally. Its even been proven that if smoked in the right way can actually kill off various strains of cancer cells. Look it up.
I just don't see any harm whatsoever with marijuana. If anything Pot should be legal and alcohol Illegal. Look what that shit has done to people over the years. Created alcoholics, low income and dysfunctional families, kills off the liver and important brain cells. I don't even drink, I'm just saying look at the facts. Its a very EASY determination.
Pot is not dangerous, it could be regulated like you said but its more helpful than being a hinderance.
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 04, 2016, 07:38:23 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Apr 23, 2015, 12:58:12 PM
Now I know they're pot smokers here, and I mean not to offend anyone... but everyone I know that smokes weed personally is either annoying or a jerk. It doesn't matter if you have money or not, family or not. Their kids grow up struggling, they live struggling and always end up causing everyone else problems that is somehow someonelse's fault. I can't see how weed is "safe" when the crap I see with my own eyes speak otherwise.
I'm not including terminally ill people or other medicinal uses, such as increased appetite and the fact that it is safer than a shit-ton of pharmaceuticals into that blanket statement I made. It should be treated like any other chemical and regulated.
Thats very true, I would lie if I was saying I don't smoke but yes it is a chemical and yes it can mess with your mind a little bit. To clear this up Pot is waaaaayyy less destructive than alcohol. Its proven to help in so many ways medicinally. Its even been proven that if smoked in the right way can actually kill off various strains of cancer cells. Look it up.
I just don't see any harm whatsoever with marijuana. If anything Pot should be legal and alcohol Illegal. Look what that shit has done to people over the years. Created alcoholics, low income and dysfunctional families, kills off the liver and important brain cells. I don't even drink, I'm just saying look at the facts. Its a very EASY determination.
Pot is not dangerous, it could be regulated like you said but its more helpful than being a hinderance.
With regards to what Whiterabbit is talking about, I think that those types of people have more of a lifestyle problem then a pot problem. you can have a motivated and productive person who smokes pot and on the flip side you can have a underachieving bum whose sole hobby is smoking weed. In the end its the personality of the individual that determines how much of an effect pot will have on their life.
Nah I just think we have a slight overpopulation problem and euthanizing the pot smokers should be the first option taken and that's why we're gathering a database of names. :laugh:
The first thing anybody needs to do when struggling with anxiety and mood/emotional issues is find the cause. An awful lot of people don't consider environmental triggers(yes, it really might be somebody else that's to blame). Another cause can be a reaction to something very common like an OTC pain reliever. Once the cause is identified, focus on either being removed from the cause/trigger or getting some kind of long-term treatment.
As for pot, I'm not up on the drug scene but I find nothing wrong with recreational usage of drugs. My experience with A-holes has been just that and everybody is effected by what fills the vacuum created by freedom of choice being removed.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 04, 2016, 10:20:45 PM
Nah I just think we have a slight overpopulation problem and euthanizing the pot smokers should be the first option taken and that's why we're gathering a database of names. :laugh:
haha, best solution yet man! :D
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 04, 2016, 09:22:01 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 04, 2016, 07:38:23 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Apr 23, 2015, 12:58:12 PM
Now I know they're pot smokers here, and I mean not to offend anyone... but everyone I know that smokes weed personally is either annoying or a jerk. It doesn't matter if you have money or not, family or not. Their kids grow up struggling, they live struggling and always end up causing everyone else problems that is somehow someonelse's fault. I can't see how weed is "safe" when the crap I see with my own eyes speak otherwise.
I'm not including terminally ill people or other medicinal uses, such as increased appetite and the fact that it is safer than a shit-ton of pharmaceuticals into that blanket statement I made. It should be treated like any other chemical and regulated.
Thats very true, I would lie if I was saying I don't smoke but yes it is a chemical and yes it can mess with your mind a little bit. To clear this up Pot is waaaaayyy less destructive than alcohol. Its proven to help in so many ways medicinally. Its even been proven that if smoked in the right way can actually kill off various strains of cancer cells. Look it up.
I just don't see any harm whatsoever with marijuana. If anything Pot should be legal and alcohol Illegal. Look what that shit has done to people over the years. Created alcoholics, low income and dysfunctional families, kills off the liver and important brain cells. I don't even drink, I'm just saying look at the facts. Its a very EASY determination.
Pot is not dangerous, it could be regulated like you said but its more helpful than being a hinderance.
With regards to what Whiterabbit is talking about, I think that those types of people have more of a lifestyle problem then a pot problem. you can have a motivated and productive person who smokes pot and on the flip side you can have a underachieving bum whose sole hobby is smoking weed. In the end its the personality of the individual that determines how much of an effect pot will have on their life.
Probably the best answer to this I've gotten at all to Pot issues. It really does determine the kind of life you live. Do you sit at home, play video games and go on the computer and get high all day? or are you a productive worker and buisnessman who comes home and smokes a joint from time to time but stays active within his community?
Also some others can function better on pot than others. A lot of my friends and family said pot dramatically effects my ambition and personality. They said it seems to effect me more so than others in the negative kind of way. I mean hell, I enjoy the f**k out of pot. Can't lie there but at the same time if I smoke too much I don't feel like socializing. I just want to zone out to a good film or game. I become more isolated and my desire to want to be active is 0 to none.
I have a co-worker who says when he smokes it makes him WANT to do things unlike me which it effects differently. So yeah, I mean it just depends on your life style choices and who you are as a person. Some people can handle it just fine while others flip out and have major problems on the shit. Sometimes with their psyche and mind.
Still better than alcohol and all those drunk parties?. f**k, you feel like shit after getting drunk. You don't feel that way with Pot so why not just smoke? And it still gets you intoxicated. Just in a way that you can function and experience life in a more flavorful lense. People need to open their eyes to the benefits rather than the negative effects which really wouldn't hurt society whatsoever!
Pot does alter a person perception of the world. That's the whole damn reason anybody smokes the thing. So to smoke pot is to live the pot lifestyle. Hey if it makes the pain go away, by all means smoke it in the privacy of your own home.
QuoteAlso some others can function better on pot than others. A lot of my friends and family said pot dramatically effects my ambition and personality. They said it seems to effect me more so than others in the negative kind of way. I mean hell, I enjoy the f**k out of pot. Can't lie there but at the same time if I smoke too much I don't feel like socializing. I just want to zone out to a good film or game. I become more isolated and my desire to want to be active is 0 to none.
There's a very simple, very effective, solution to being a burn-out: get everything you need to do done before you burn.
PROBLEM=SOLVED. ;D
Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 05, 2016, 10:35:44 PM
Pot does alter a person perception of the world. That's the whole damn reason anybody smokes the thing. So to smoke pot is to live the pot lifestyle. Hey if it makes the pain go away, by all means smoke it in the privacy of your own home.
I smoke in the privacy of my own apartment but I don't smoke to make any physical or psychological pain go away. I smoke simply because I enjoy being in that mind set. It adds a little flavor to life. Especially when I watch a film. I have had some of the best experiences watching the Alien films high. I've never been so immersed in the films before. Maybe when I was 12 but since than when I smoke pot it
feels as if I'm connecting to the films characters and landscape. Its just an entirely different scope, more realistic feeling than if I were to watch the damn films sober.
From what I've heard though many people from the UK aren't HUGE pot smokers. I've always taken people who live in Europe as ones who indulge in alcohol. Never really hear many Europeans smoking pot. Just an observation. I may be entirely wrong.
The behavior of drug use is literally as old as civilization itself. The excessive regulations however are not. An extremely valid and potent argument can be made that the only way people in different civilizations were able to survive was by the access to drugs and those drugs being readily available. A lot of modern pharmaceuticals are based on what's considered "homeopathic" today.
People like their fantasy world's where the fundamentals of choice aren't the most important and relevant aspects, but in the end, utopian fantasies of a perfect society, where natural rights have no regard, will be nothing more than organic forms of population reduction.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 07, 2016, 02:07:40 AM
The behavior of drug use is literally as old as civilization itself. The excessive regulations however are not. An extremely valid and potent argument can be made that the only way people in different civilizations were able to survive was by the access to drugs and those drugs being readily available. A lot of modern pharmaceuticals are based on what's considered "homeopathic" today.
People like their fantasy world's where the fundamentals of choice aren't the most important and relevant aspects, but in the end, utopian fantasies of a perfect society, where natural rights have no regard, will be nothing more than organic forms of population reduction.
I like the analytical response :D If you don't mind me asking you broughtpain, do you smoke at all?
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 10, 2016, 05:06:32 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 07, 2016, 02:07:40 AM
The behavior of drug use is literally as old as civilization itself. The excessive regulations however are not. An extremely valid and potent argument can be made that the only way people in different civilizations were able to survive was by the access to drugs and those drugs being readily available. A lot of modern pharmaceuticals are based on what's considered "homeopathic" today.
People like their fantasy world's where the fundamentals of choice aren't the most important and relevant aspects, but in the end, utopian fantasies of a perfect society, where natural rights have no regard, will be nothing more than organic forms of population reduction.
I like the analytical response :D If you don't mind me asking you broughtpain, do you smoke at all?
Cigarettes only.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 10, 2016, 05:45:06 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 10, 2016, 05:06:32 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 07, 2016, 02:07:40 AM
The behavior of drug use is literally as old as civilization itself. The excessive regulations however are not. An extremely valid and potent argument can be made that the only way people in different civilizations were able to survive was by the access to drugs and those drugs being readily available. A lot of modern pharmaceuticals are based on what's considered "homeopathic" today.
People like their fantasy world's where the fundamentals of choice aren't the most important and relevant aspects, but in the end, utopian fantasies of a perfect society, where natural rights have no regard, will be nothing more than organic forms of population reduction.
I like the analytical response :D If you don't mind me asking you broughtpain, do you smoke at all?
Cigarettes only.
haha :D why no reefer my man? Cigarettes bleck..get off that shit. Pots better for you :laugh:
If they ever came up with a strain that smoked good and didn't get you stoned, I probably would. Otherwise, the best pot for smoking also gets you really stoned.
...I definitely would go for something with a sweet and rich smoke that's full and smooth.
...and doesn't get you stoned.
...and is legal.
You should smoke some pot dude.
As somebody who was diagnosed as bipolar and manic depression, I find pot helps me, as long as I spread out my consumption. I smoke a joint every five or six weeks, but it does the trick of taking the edge off me. As a recovering alcoholic, I can honestly say that alcohol has had a far more detrimental effect on me. Difference is though, pot isn't taxed, alcohol is. I'm not one for pointing out potential conspiracies, but the revenue generated by alcohol sales and it's affect on tax, might, just might have something to do with the fact that it is still legal, despite it being one of the most damaging drugs in the world.
Funny how that shit works isn't it
Just remember the reason you feel down sometimes is because you are human.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 10, 2016, 09:59:15 PM
If they ever came up with a strain that smoked good and didn't get you stoned, I probably would. Otherwise, the best pot for smoking also gets you really stoned.
...I definitely would go for something with a sweet and rich smoke that's full and smooth.
...and doesn't get you stoned.
...and is legal.
Ok :D your statement is so contradicting of itself. You want to smoke pot but not get high and do it legally?? Thats the whole point of smoking pot is to get that THC into your bloodstream to start making you feel good. ??? I don't know what kind of pot you're talking about lol.
Also in the US where I live. There are already 5 states that have legalized pot both Medically and Recreationally. Give it another 20 years or so and most of the world will probably have that shit legalized and people won't be able to say shit lol.
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Feb 11, 2016, 04:11:17 PM
As somebody who was diagnosed as bipolar and manic depression, I find pot helps me, as long as I spread out my consumption. I smoke a joint every five or six weeks, but it does the trick of taking the edge off me. As a recovering alcoholic, I can honestly say that alcohol has had a far more detrimental effect on me. Difference is though, pot isn't taxed, alcohol is. I'm not one for pointing out potential conspiracies, but the revenue generated by alcohol sales and it's affect on tax, might, just might have something to do with the fact that it is still legal, despite it being one of the most damaging drugs in the world.
Funny how that shit works isn't it
True to dat my friend ;)
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 10, 2016, 09:59:15 PM
If they ever came up with a strain that smoked good and didn't get you stoned, I probably would. Otherwise, the best pot for smoking also gets you really stoned.
...I definitely would go for something with a sweet and rich smoke that's full and smooth.
...and doesn't get you stoned.
...and is legal.
Getting stoned is the whole f**king point, man :D
And it could easily be legalized if our government wasn't stuck in the f**king Stone Age
Quote from: Deathbearer on Feb 12, 2016, 06:42:11 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 10, 2016, 09:59:15 PM
If they ever came up with a strain that smoked good and didn't get you stoned, I probably would. Otherwise, the best pot for smoking also gets you really stoned.
...I definitely would go for something with a sweet and rich smoke that's full and smooth.
...and doesn't get you stoned.
...and is legal.
Getting stoned is the whole f**king point, man :D
And it could easily be legalized if our government wasn't stuck in the f**king Stone Age
Technically, pot was legal in the stone age.
It's actually a very complex matter because it's human beings at the core. With human beings, it's ALWAYS a matter of what's in their heads. A lot of events have come to pass due to a lack of knowledge, a lack of understanding, a lack of reason and a lack of all of the above.
In the states, the Prohibition of alcohol was brought about by women's special interest groups. Others got involved and viola! The worst period of human predation ever seen in the United States. Just like today, back then, the ignorant belief of fixing defects in character could be done by addressing secondary and tertiary aspects. It's no more true today than it was then. That's why the Aholes and dipsticks are the ones being allowed to shape society through the results of their behavior.
Drug use is a secondary with various aspects of it being tertiary qualities that don't change because of the drugs because the drugs aren't the fundamental cause. the real solution is simply for one to behave properly. That includes how one reacts and responds to Aholes.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 12, 2016, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: Deathbearer on Feb 12, 2016, 06:42:11 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 10, 2016, 09:59:15 PM
If they ever came up with a strain that smoked good and didn't get you stoned, I probably would. Otherwise, the best pot for smoking also gets you really stoned.
...I definitely would go for something with a sweet and rich smoke that's full and smooth.
...and doesn't get you stoned.
...and is legal.
Getting stoned is the whole f**king point, man :D
And it could easily be legalized if our government wasn't stuck in the f**king Stone Age
Technically, pot was legal in the stone age.
It's actually a very complex matter because it's human beings at the core. With human beings, it's ALWAYS a matter of what's in their heads. A lot of events have come to pass due to a lack of knowledge, a lack of understanding, a lack of reason and a lack of all of the above.
In the states, the Prohibition of alcohol was brought about by women's special interest groups. Others got involved and viola! The worst period of human predation ever seen in the United States. Just like today, back then, the ignorant belief of fixing defects in character could be done by addressing secondary and tertiary aspects. It's no more true today than it was then. That's why the Aholes and dipsticks are the ones being allowed to shape society through the results of their behavior.
Drug use is a secondary with various aspects of it being tertiary qualities that don't change because of the drugs because the drugs aren't the fundamental cause. the real solution is simply for one to behave properly. That includes how one reacts and responds to Aholes.
A tedious technicality, but since we both know what I meant it's an unnecessary point to try and make.
I don't actually know what you're trying to say with the rest of the post. It's kind of all over the place.
check out this video, really has cool undertone of depression or suicide. Its really beautiful . My friend made it a couple years ago and more people should see it.
Watched this video scared the shit into me:
Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if weed ever got the chance it would smoke you and everyone you care about...
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Feb 14, 2016, 12:02:21 AM
Watched this video scared the shit into me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBeAR9kbI2I
Ah, "The Russian Sleep Experiment" creepypasta is a good one, but I don't think it's related to the thread.
f**k those sounds.
f**k those images.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 14, 2016, 03:09:49 AM
Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if weed ever got the chance it would smoke you and everyone you care about...
What kind of cigarettes do you smoke?
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 14, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 14, 2016, 03:09:49 AM
Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if weed ever got the chance it would smoke you and everyone you care about...
What kind of cigarettes do you smoke?
Regular filtered.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 14, 2016, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 14, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 14, 2016, 03:09:49 AM
Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if weed ever got the chance it would smoke you and everyone you care about...
What kind of cigarettes do you smoke?
Regular filtered.
I mean what brand?
Marlboro at the moment.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 16, 2016, 04:57:04 AM
Marlboro at the moment.
Yeah, Marlboro aint too bad. How long have you been a smoker? Has it caused any health problems for you?
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 16, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 16, 2016, 04:57:04 AM
Marlboro at the moment.
Yeah, Marlboro aint too bad. How long have you been a smoker? Has it caused any health problems for you?
24+ yrs
I didn't have any health problems at all until the economy tanked and I could only get loose tobacco.
...I don't recommend smoking if that's where you're going.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 16, 2016, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 16, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 16, 2016, 04:57:04 AM
Marlboro at the moment.
Yeah, Marlboro aint too bad. How long have you been a smoker? Has it caused any health problems for you?
24+ yrs
I didn't have any health problems at all until the economy tanked and I could only get loose tobacco.
...I don't recommend smoking if that's where you're going.
Oh don't worry about that. I never plan on smoking cigarettes. The high and buzz weed gives you is above and beyond any cigarette.
What is better about nicotine compared to THC? I would assume that THC would give you a better high/buzz and make you even feel better than nicotine? If i'm gonna smoke or get high I don't settle for chump smoking. I go all out with that kill. :laugh:
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 19, 2016, 12:51:29 AM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 16, 2016, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 16, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 16, 2016, 04:57:04 AM
Marlboro at the moment.
Yeah, Marlboro aint too bad. How long have you been a smoker? Has it caused any health problems for you?
24+ yrs
I didn't have any health problems at all until the economy tanked and I could only get loose tobacco.
...I don't recommend smoking if that's where you're going.
Oh don't worry about that. I never plan on smoking cigarettes. The high and buzz weed gives you is above and beyond any cigarette.
What is better about nicotine compared to THC? I would assume that THC would give you a better high/buzz and make you even feel better than nicotine? If i'm gonna smoke or get high I don't settle for chump smoking. I go all out with that kill. :laugh:
...the really messed up thing is somebody, in man's history was like "....I'm going to try breathing in smoke" then they were like "HOLY ****! THIS IS GREAT!" then they went to someone and said "here! You've got to try this!" And they were like "What? No! I'm not breathing in smoke" then dude was like "no! I'm serious! Try it!" Then it was "okay...OH MY GOSH! THIS IS AWESOME! WE'VE GOT TO TELL OTHERS!"
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 19, 2016, 02:05:11 AM
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 19, 2016, 12:51:29 AM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 16, 2016, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: Chronicle on Feb 16, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 16, 2016, 04:57:04 AM
Marlboro at the moment.
Yeah, Marlboro aint too bad. How long have you been a smoker? Has it caused any health problems for you?
24+ yrs
I didn't have any health problems at all until the economy tanked and I could only get loose tobacco.
...I don't recommend smoking if that's where you're going.
Oh don't worry about that. I never plan on smoking cigarettes. The high and buzz weed gives you is above and beyond any cigarette.
What is better about nicotine compared to THC? I would assume that THC would give you a better high/buzz and make you even feel better than nicotine? If i'm gonna smoke or get high I don't settle for chump smoking. I go all out with that kill. :laugh:
...the really messed up thing is somebody, in man's history was like "....I'm going to try breathing in smoke" then they were like "HOLY ****! THIS IS GREAT!" then they went to someone and said "here! You've got to try this!" And they were like "What? No! I'm not breathing in smoke" then dude was like "no! I'm serious! Try it!" Then it was "okay...OH MY GOSH! THIS IS AWESOME! WE'VE GOT TO TELL OTHERS!"
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Back on topic...
If someone is having a tough time, don't worry about sending me a message.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 19, 2016, 03:00:32 AM
Back on topic...
If someone is having a tough time, don't worry about sending me a message.
You have experience(because so do I)
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 19, 2016, 03:00:32 AM
Back on topic...
If someone is having a tough time, don't worry about sending me a message.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 19, 2016, 03:00:32 AM
Back on topic...
If someone is having a tough time, don't worry about sending me a message.
Whats causing you guys to have a bad day?
I'm not having a bad day.
Did I miss something with City's post?
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 21, 2016, 09:23:24 PM
I'm not having a bad day.
Did I miss something with City's post?
sorry I was misunderstood there broughpain.
If you can help it guys, don't smoke cigs. ;D
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 21, 2016, 09:23:24 PM
I'm not having a bad day.
Did I miss something with City's post?
I said same here and do u have experience.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2016, 09:31:00 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 21, 2016, 09:23:24 PM
I'm not having a bad day.
Did I miss something with City's post?
I said same here and do u have experience.
Professional? No.
...unless you count being on the receiving end.
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 26, 2016, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2016, 09:31:00 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 21, 2016, 09:23:24 PM
I'm not having a bad day.
Did I miss something with City's post?
I said same here and do u have experience.
Professional? No.
...unless you count being on the receiving end.
Ive been on the receiving end since i was 5.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2016, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 26, 2016, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2016, 09:31:00 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 21, 2016, 09:23:24 PM
I'm not having a bad day.
Did I miss something with City's post?
I said same here and do u have experience.
Professional? No.
...unless you count being on the receiving end.
Ive been on the receiving end since i was 5.
Too much candy or too much parenting???
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 26, 2016, 11:04:34 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2016, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 26, 2016, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2016, 09:31:00 PM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 21, 2016, 09:23:24 PM
I'm not having a bad day.
Did I miss something with City's post?
I said same here and do u have experience.
Professional? No.
...unless you count being on the receiving end.
Ive been on the receiving end since i was 5.
Too much candy or too much parenting???
Neither more like slaps and not having a father that lives with me and more.
I actually completely understand what you're saying. Except for the more part obviously...that's a bit vague.
I just got word that my dad will be released from prison next year.
I've never met him and i don't know if i'm interested. Of course i'm conflicted :/
Quote from: future_Tarzan³ on Feb 27, 2016, 12:10:42 AM
I just got word that my dad will be released from prison next year.
I've never met him and i don't know if i'm interested. Of course i'm conflicted :/
About that first step or the destination?
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 27, 2016, 12:16:18 AM
Quote from: future_Tarzan³ on Feb 27, 2016, 12:10:42 AM
I just got word that my dad will be released from prison next year.
I've never met him and i don't know if i'm interested. Of course i'm conflicted :/
About that first step or the destination?
if i care
Just realized I mod here and that I am finally able to correct the Goddamn title of this thread.
Feels good man.
Quote from: future_Tarzan³ on Feb 27, 2016, 05:04:55 AM
Quote from: broughtpain on Feb 27, 2016, 12:16:18 AM
Quote from: future_Tarzan³ on Feb 27, 2016, 12:10:42 AM
I just got word that my dad will be released from prison next year.
I've never met him and i don't know if i'm interested. Of course i'm conflicted :/
About that first step or the destination?
if i care
How old were you when he went to prison?
I was young but he was never around anyway, honesty it's all good i'm my own person and don't really think about stuff that bums me out.
Quote from: future_Tarzan³ on Feb 28, 2016, 07:59:59 AM
I was young but he was never around anyway, honesty it's all good i'm my own person and don't really think about stuff that bums me out.
Good for you. Growing up without a dad, I assume, must have been tough, but you've obviously grown without him regardless. My old man was a violent, abusive alcoholic, I'm not comparing us both, just saying, sometimes it's a dead end street. Drop me a message, if you ever want to talk about stuff
Quote from: future_Tarzan³ on Feb 28, 2016, 07:59:59 AM
I was young but he was never around anyway, honesty it's all good i'm my own person and don't really think about stuff that bums me out.
Thought and emotion are separate.
I wish you well and hope you're okay no matter what choice you make in the matter. ;)
If anybody is feeling down, Phuc Long and Bad Lip Reading on YouTube cheers me up.
So... been a while. I've actually stopped taking my medication. It's only a trial run though, so I may end up back on it, depending how this goes, but it's been over a month and I feel mostly stable. This could be the beginning of the rest of my life.
That, and it can be really hard to lose weight on certain meds, so hoping even harder that I'm ready to go without them.
Quote from: Sabby on May 20, 2016, 09:24:08 AM
So... been a while. I've actually stopped taking my medication. It's only a trial run though, so I may end up back on it, depending how this goes, but it's been over a month and I feel mostly stable. This could be the beginning of the rest of my life.
That, and it can be really hard to lose weight on certain meds, so hoping even harder that I'm ready to go without them.
SSRIs?
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So... been a while. I've actually stopped taking my medication. It's only a trial run though, so I may end up back on it, depending how this goes, but it's been over a month and I feel mostly stable. This could be the beginning of the rest of my life.
That, and it can be really hard to lose weight on certain meds, so hoping even harder that I'm ready to go without them.
SSRIs?
Que?
Been put on a new anti-psychotic. I have to take them at night before bed as they make you drowsy and you feel like your drunk. They also give me nightmares...bad ones that feel real.
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Quote from: broughtpain on May 22, 2016, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: Sabby on May 20, 2016, 09:24:08 AM
So... been a while. I've actually stopped taking my medication. It's only a trial run though, so I may end up back on it, depending how this goes, but it's been over a month and I feel mostly stable. This could be the beginning of the rest of my life.
That, and it can be really hard to lose weight on certain meds, so hoping even harder that I'm ready to go without them.
SSRIs?
Que?
What kind of medication?
Quote from: broughtpain on May 23, 2016, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: Sabby on May 23, 2016, 07:15:03 AM
Quote from: broughtpain on May 22, 2016, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: Sabby on May 20, 2016, 09:24:08 AM
So... been a while. I've actually stopped taking my medication. It's only a trial run though, so I may end up back on it, depending how this goes, but it's been over a month and I feel mostly stable. This could be the beginning of the rest of my life.
That, and it can be really hard to lose weight on certain meds, so hoping even harder that I'm ready to go without them.
SSRIs?
Que?
What kind of medication?
Lexapro and Respiradone. I never did find out if they had weight gain issues, but I did gain a lot of weight while on them. I know they gave me skin irritation and migraines if I missed them. Coming down was a bitch, but no nasty lingering effects now.
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Quote from: broughtpain on May 23, 2016, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: Sabby on May 23, 2016, 07:15:03 AM
Quote from: broughtpain on May 22, 2016, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: Sabby on May 20, 2016, 09:24:08 AM
So... been a while. I've actually stopped taking my medication. It's only a trial run though, so I may end up back on it, depending how this goes, but it's been over a month and I feel mostly stable. This could be the beginning of the rest of my life.
That, and it can be really hard to lose weight on certain meds, so hoping even harder that I'm ready to go without them.
SSRIs?
Que?
What kind of medication?
Lexapro and Respiradone. I never did find out if they had weight gain issues, but I did gain a lot of weight while on them. I know they gave me skin irritation and migraines if I missed them. Coming down was a bitch, but no nasty lingering effects now.
Well I hope you do okay. I couldn't take such because of the effects it had on my mind.
Hope you do okay too xeno.
Thanks man ^^ Same to you.
Quote from: broughtpain on May 23, 2016, 01:58:23 PM
Hope you do okay too xeno.
Thanks man.
Honestly, I'm not OK. Since 2011 it's been a downhill side with no chance off getting better. I have a combination of depression and a psychotic disorder and as of late my depression has been getting worse each day. I'm scared if I'm honest. The help I'm getting isn't doing much good either. The medication I've been taking is making me loose interest in all the things that keep my mind occupied and keep me sane. The Alien movies for example, they are part of my life and have been since I was nine years old. My meds have made me forget things including a lot the things I have learned about the three movies over the years. They are making me dumb. I've hardly watched an Alien film or anything Alien related for a while which if you knew me would know that's not normal. If I loose interest in all those things then what will happen to me?
Sorry for rambling but I'm at a dead end and I know I shouldn't share things like this in public but I'm scared I 'won't be around' anymore. Feel like an outcast where ever I go and don't fit in to. It's the same with my online life to. Struggle to talk to people and interact.
I don't mean this because of lack of sleep but I'm tired.
I'm sorry everyone.
The only thing I can offer is this. Go see your doctor. Tell them exactly what you just said. I don't know how much more can be done, but there's no point curing psychosis with zombism.
Best advice I can give is be who you are and do what makes you happy.
I know for sure I have OCD, specifically intrusive thoughts, which believe me cause a great deal of anxiety. It's an awful thing to feel like your head is being invaded by thoughts you don't want. I'm pretty sure I have some sort of mood problem as well...considering how easily they can change at the drop of a hat. I experience emotions very intensely or not at all.
In short, yeah, I have my issues too. Never been to a psychiatrist though.
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Well, Kaltes, there's a lot of stress going around right now, take care of yourself.
Quote from: broughtpain on May 29, 2016, 03:41:04 AM
Well, Kaltes, there's a lot of stress going around right now, take care of yourself.
It comes and goes like most bad things do, but thank you.
I deal with depression & major anger issues. Life for me has been a downward spiral since around 2005-ish & just keeps getting worse as the years go by. I've lost handfuls of friends in the last year due to my "negative attitude" & they just can't handle the way I am anymore so they all let me go. Some friends eh? Kick me while I'm down. I don't take any medication except for weed. It's the only thing that keeps things under control. Take my anger away & the depression goes away for a short little while but it all comes back within a few hours. I've just accepted this as the way I am so if I end up losing everybody in the process then so be it. The only difference would be dealing with the depression alone which it already feels like so not much would change.
Anger and depression are both effects. Not causes. They can feed into each other, but neither one is an actual cause. You need to deal with the cause to actually achieve a firm standing as an individual. Smoking weed as a means of escape isn't as unnatural as you might think and the fundamental aspect of seeking an escape through external means like drugs is thousands of years old. It won't be really effective until it's brought into the realm of not being a universal replacement for solving problems in life that can be solved. Identifying and addressing the cause of the anger and depression will improve all aspects of your life and increase the utility of smoking weed.
As for losing friends, don't worry too much about it. Human behavior is a really wonky thing where as the best friendships can be contentious relationships in appearance but deeper in bonding than more seemingly positive engagements. Think two best friends that always argue about everything but remain friends until one dies as opposed to two friends that have more positive encounters but part ways after some time. Of course, the opposite can be true where positive engagements endure and contentious ones dissolve. Human beings are intelligent and thus can comprehend the value of companionship becoming refined and thus of greater value as more time passes. Human beings are also prone to error. So the obvious answer is one of balance.
I hope you can straighten things out and become happy. So much of life sucks and it's only worse when your unhappy.
I'm just kind of at a point where I just don't really care about much anymore. I've lost so many people in my life in the last few years that I just keep shit to myself & bottle it up, don't really feel comfortable opening up much. I have my explosive moments for sure but I'm not really seeking any help either. The last friendship I lost actually was with my best friend of 11 years & he finally called it quits due to my negativity & lack of success in life. I was pissed about it at the start, now its just whatever to me. There's other things that have been going wrong for me as well besides that stuff like health issues but I've no interest to talk about that so yea, I agree, hopefully things will straighten out one day. I used to be a fairly happy person up until the '05 mark.
Well, I ended up feeling shitty and depressed last night. Probably the worst I've felt in a long time.
My heart goes out to you all, really. Though I don't consider myself under any 'mental disorder', I've had my down days throughout teenhood. Shit got heavy after I caught Pneumonia in late 2012. But I told myself I'd keep going.
My friend, on the other hand, knows this way of suffering only too well. He's had OCD, bouts of extreme depression, and major anxiety and paranoia. And has suicidal tendencies.
High school was tough for many, with plenty of peer pressure coming from the large Honors/AP bracket in our grade. But he'd fret over his grades mainly, then fail to improve them despite studying, and lose interest in anything and anyone. Shut himself away and wouldn't respond. Once he showed suicidal tendencies, he was tossed between ineffectual psychiatrists and a school board not wanting to ruin its record nor take action. With no trust in any authority and with parents who didn't know what to do but berate him, he nearly lost it.
And this happened over and over. He didn't learn, chose not to restore resolve, and lost 10/12 of his friends and his gf. Grades still not satisfactory; nothing else changed for the better except for more trust in me for sticking with him. I don't know how he stays stable in between bouts.
I could tell him to suck it up, or reassure him that all's right, and make no difference either way. He's at the point of accepting this way of life, though there were so many points he could have dug himself out of a rut, but lacked the resolve. I don't want to accept that he's a lost cause, but all the perceiveable options have run out. What do I do or tell him before the next crash?
Let food be thy medicine, let medicine be thy food. - Hippocrates
Diet and exercise is the key (a big part of it) to good health (mind and body is one and the same). The reason for mental/physical disease is the many toxins we consume. The only way to eliminate these toxins is by eating/drinking organic. You'd be surprised what processed sugar does to your body - it's the same as a drug.
I can attest to this. I gave up alcohol, junk food, coffee, medications, etc, and I feel much better.
Psychiatrists - most of them just glorified drug dealers who not once ask about nutrition. Because they don't know. :laugh: They are taught/spread lies.
So, yes, every problem has a solution. Depression/anxiety can be cured with the right knowledge and mental attitude.
Quote from: Scorpio on Jul 13, 2016, 03:01:46 AM
Psychiatrists - most of them just glorified drug dealers who not once ask about nutrition. Because they don't know. :laugh: They are taught/spread lies.
Piss off. This happens every few pages, some idiot comes in with the toxins speech. Just blend your own peanut butter guys! That will clear up your crippling depression!
Has anyone heard any more from Zeno Alpha? that was his last post on the forums.
Quote from: dave1978 on Jul 15, 2016, 09:15:55 AM
Has anyone heard any more from Zeno Alpha? that was his last post on the forums.
Sometimes people just disappear and never post again with no explanation. It happens, sadly.
Quote from: Kaltes on Jul 17, 2016, 07:31:06 AM
Quote from: dave1978 on Jul 15, 2016, 09:15:55 AM
Has anyone heard any more from Zeno Alpha? that was his last post on the forums.
Sometimes people just disappear and never post again with no explanation. It happens, sadly.
I wish him the best of luck then. No point in dwelling on the worst case scenario.
It was the tone of his last post that was worrying.
Last year, after years and years of stuff I won't go into, I went to my doctor because I had something weird with my lefteye. A spot in my focus. He send me to an ophthalmologist. Took some scans, and it turned out I had serosa, which is something quite common in young males, and usually stress induced. When she asked if I suffered from stress, I broke down.
A few weeks later, I started my therapy with a psychiatrist who diagnosed me with something I had suspected for quite a while; OCD caused by anxiety. Looking back through my life, it's been obvious really, but I always joked I had it was behaviour, not disorder. When I was going through my nightly routine making sure everything was off, closed or locked, my girlfriend started talking to me. I got upset, and was angry that I had to start all over again. She looked at me, and said: Yeah.... that's not behaviour, that's disorder. I laughed it off, but in hindsight, that should have been my first realization. In the past, my obsessive behaviour turned dieeting into a eating-disorder, where I became obsessed with loosing as much weight as I could, resuslting in me, a 6,35' 30-ish man who at one point weight over 120 kilos, weighing no more then 74 kilos, and trying to loose more.
I've been on anti-depression medication before in my life, and I discussed with my therapist that I wasn't keen on using meds to help me, I wanted to get there myself. She was supportive of this, and we both agreed that I should be able to do so.since I had been able to overcome my eating obsession and leveling that out. It's still not perfect, and I fear gaining weight still, but I can manage that.
I've worked out some of behaviourism, and managed them to a point where they don't control me anymore. Others, that I thought I managed, have returned somewhat thanks to a lot of pressure and stress lately.
My anxiety is caused by unrealistic fears, that have led into OCD, to make sure I am always in control of everything around me to make sure nothing bad can happen. It has caused fear amongst those that love me. My girlfriend was scared for me almost always, my brother was shocked when he saw me without a shirt and realized he could see my ribcage and hipbones. Costumers in the store I work at that have known me for years thought I was dying because of the weight I losed. And all of that, because of fear.
I still fight fears on a daily basis, sometimes only very little in the background, hardly noticable. Sometimes, I can't even watch a movie because I'm scared the tv or blurayplayer might break. And it locks me down.
Medication is an option, it still is. I'm considering it, at times. At times, I don't want them, because I see them as something controling me, and I'm already being controled by so might in my life. Like anyone, I have my good days and bad. But the good days always seem a little sad, because I know the bad days are coming again. And when they are bad....
I'm lucky. I have a amazing partner. A fantastic family. Friends that support me. Co-workers and a boss who don't judge. It could be a lot worse I guess. It would simply be nice if things were a lot easier. And I guess that depends on me.
Quote from: Thomas H. on Jul 17, 2016, 08:59:58 AM
-serosa.
-OCD caused by anxiety.
-obsessive behaviour turned dieting into an eating-disorder.
-been on anti-depression medication before
-anxiety is caused by unrealistic fears, that have led into OCD, to make sure I am always in control of everything around me.
-I don't want medication, because I see them as something controling me, and I'm already being controled by so might in my life.
I'm sorry to hear that. You know, anxiety disorders are actually not uncommon, in my experience.
Skip the medication, since you feel consciously better without it. Talk things out with your friends, family, or coworkers. Talk therapy, if you even call it that, can provide a little rationale from different perspectives to help you reject your most common fears. Fears and obsessions often crumble away after you reflect on the logicality or illogicality that they are based on.
"anxiety is caused by unrealistic fears, that have led into OCD, to make sure I am always in control of everything around me."
That's funny, I've an answer to that.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Ft82ikn.jpg&hash=e701a9f5deb438151bd736b0230075ff89f24038)
Quote from: Doc Dia Beetis on Jul 17, 2016, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: Thomas H. on Jul 17, 2016, 08:59:58 AM
-serosa.
-OCD caused by anxiety.
-obsessive behaviour turned dieting into an eating-disorder.
-been on anti-depression medication before
-anxiety is caused by unrealistic fears, that have led into OCD, to make sure I am always in control of everything around me.
-I don't want medication, because I see them as something controling me, and I'm already being controled by so might in my life.
I'm sorry to hear that. You know, anxiety disorders are actually not uncommon, in my experience.
Skip the medication, since you feel consciously better without it. Talk things out with your friends, family, or coworkers. Talk therapy, if you even call it that, can provide a little rationale from different perspectives to help you reject your most common fears. Fears and obsessions often crumble away after you reflect on the logicality or illogicality that they are based on.
"anxiety is caused by unrealistic fears, that have led into OCD, to make sure I am always in control of everything around me."
That's funny, I've an answer to that.
http://i65.tinypic.com/t82ikn.jpg
I do need some therapy at somepoint, I am aware of that. But not for the OCD itself, or even the anxiety. Everything starts with fear for me, and a lot of that is based in stuff from when I was a kid. I know I need some help to get through that, give all of that a place. Hopefully, everything after that (the anxiety and OCD) will also slowly fall in line. Right now though, with a lot going on in my life, it's pretty difficult for me to even consider therapy,while I'm also aware that everything that is going on, would be easier to deal with if I didn't have this weight on my shoulders... Although, I've been told that realizing that is half the battle won. I am doing loads better than a few years back though, so I hope I can make those last few steps.
Quote from: dave1978 on Jul 17, 2016, 08:21:22 AM
It was the tone of his last post that was worrying.
Maybe he is just avoiding AVPG for a while.
This topic has become a major concern for me. I met a couple of people this year who attempted suicide before I met them. One of them was really striking because I saw her cut marks on her wrist. When I became friends with her, she told me that she attempted suicide because her bf dumped her. Another girl I met told me that she attempted suicide because she failed the entrance exam. I know of another girl on an internet forum with a similar situation. I know a lot of people who went through bad experiences such as getting dumped or some who failed the entrance exams. Most of them moved on without attempting suicide. One thing I found similar about the ones who attempted suicide is that they had bad feelings about almost everything with the place they lived in. They lacked or they lost supportive friends, and a lot of the things in the area where they lived at reminded them of these bad thoughts. The two girls I met loved their parents, but I guess those parents weren't enough to prevent the suicidal thoughts. With the exception of the online friend, the other two chose to travel abroad to start new lives (which is how I met one of them). They made plenty of new friends, and they told me that they don't have suicidal thoughts now. I'm pretty sure that there are other factors, but I think having supportive friends helps out a lot.
People check your thyroid as well. It's a big cause for depression. I have Hashimoto's Disease, the 3rd type of thyroid issue and it's a real b!tch.
Quote from: Shinawi on Jul 18, 2016, 03:20:49 AM
I think having supportive friends helps out a lot.
It does.
Quote from: Shinawi on Jul 18, 2016, 03:20:49 AM
I think having supportive friends helps out a lot.
Support in general is amazing, from family, friends and co-workers. But in the end, if you want get out of it, you need to do it yourself.
When my brother was in rehab, they had a motto on the wall, that I think works here as well.
"Only you can do it, but you can't do it alone."
My depression has been hitting some all times lows lately hence why I haven't been posting anything on here lately & I've slowly been removing myself from other places. It won't be long until I'm not posting here anymore either. I don't have any one that I can talk to about anything or get any kind of support from so I'm just going to have to deal with it myself & if that means removing myself from everything then so be it. It was fun here while it lasted but in my experience, nothing good ever lasts.
Getting depressed on whats going on with the world,what about you guys?
Mine's for personal/health reasons
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jul 19, 2016, 09:42:08 PM
Getting depressed on whats going on with the world,what about you guys?
That's part of what get me good and pissed off and miserable at times.
I really hate the that come into my head whenever I'm seriously upset. It just makes it even worse.
Quote from: Kaltes on Jul 20, 2016, 03:27:37 AM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jul 19, 2016, 09:42:08 PM
Getting depressed on whats going on with the world,what about you guys?
That's part of what get me good and pissed off and miserable at times.
I really hate the that come into my head whenever I'm seriously upset. It just makes it even worse.
I feel ya.
Quote from: dave1978 on Jul 15, 2016, 09:15:55 AM
Has anyone heard any more from Zeno Alpha? that was his last post on the forums.
I'm still around. Tried deleting my account as I was feeling ashamed for making that last post. Glad I didn't write everything I was going to. The reason for feeling ashamed is because I 'almost' did something stupid that night. But I didn't. I'll probably just lurk for a while until I feel myself again.
Take it easy everyone.
Quote from: xeno_alpha_07 on Aug 06, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
I'm still around. Tried deleting my account as I was feeling ashamed for making that last post. Glad I didn't write everything I was going to. The reason for feeling ashamed is because I 'almost' did something stupid that night. But I didn't. I'll probably just lurk for a while until I feel myself again.
Take it easy everyone.
Same goes for you, take care of yourself.
Quote from: xeno_alpha_07 on Aug 06, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: dave1978 on Jul 15, 2016, 09:15:55 AM
Has anyone heard any more from Zeno Alpha? that was his last post on the forums.
I'm still around. Tried deleting my account as I was feeling ashamed for making that last post. Glad I didn't write everything I was going to. The reason for feeling ashamed is because I 'almost' did something stupid that night. But I didn't. I'll probably just lurk for a while until I feel myself again.
Take it easy everyone.
Nothing's really stupid to write when it pertains to your own feelings. It's healthy to get those out. Plenty of people may understand your concerns.
I wouldn't advise just lurking. Talking is the natural mode of expressing your response to stress, and dissipating it. Any one reasonable person will do. You may PM me if you want to talk; I'll listen.
Quote from: Doc Dia Beetis on Aug 08, 2016, 04:19:51 AM
Nothing's really stupid to write when it pertains to your own feelings. It's healthy to get those out. Plenty of people may understand your concerns.
I wouldn't advise just lurking. Talking is the natural mode of expressing your response to stress, and dissipating it. Anyone reasonable person will do. You may PM me if you want to talk; I'll listen.
Thanks, Doc. Talking is something I'm struggling with big time. Even with my own family and friends, it's hard to talk and it's driving me insane.
Quote from: xeno_alpha_07 on Aug 06, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
Quote from: dave1978 on Jul 15, 2016, 09:15:55 AM
Has anyone heard any more from Zeno Alpha? that was his last post on the forums.
I'm still around. Tried deleting my account as I was feeling ashamed for making that last post. Glad I didn't write everything I was going to. The reason for feeling ashamed is because I 'almost' did something stupid that night. But I didn't. I'll probably just lurk for a while until I feel myself again.
Take it easy everyone.
I know it's easier said than done but don't feel ashamed and don't be afraid to talk. I'm sure there's others out there who feel the same or who might be able to help with what you're going through. We're all here for each other.
Totally understandable. I'm the same way & don't really open up much on here or to family/friends but they'll be around to talk whenever you're ready. It's certainly easier said than done a lot of times. Almost dying the other week put a few things into perspective for me but I still find it hard to talk.
I never wanted my problems leaking into my online life but sadly it has. I'm sorry for it and thanks for your kind words. I know I struggle to talk to people and I'm terrible with words, but, I'm a good listener and the same goes for you all to ever need someone to listen pm or skype me :) Hope your all ok to.
I've been having daily anxiety attacks that last pretty much the whole day for the last month. Been so fun. No, not interested to take the topic any further. My anger has been way too quick to rise as well these days so I try not to say anything or talk to people much anymore.
Couple of nights ago my paranoia was up higher than usual, could barely sleep because of it.
Know that feeling. I'm awake everyday until 4 or 5am just tossing and turning. Been doing that for the last month or so. It's all personal & health probs. I couldn't care less what's going on around the globe for probs.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jul 19, 2016, 09:42:08 PM
Getting depressed on whats going on with the world,what about you guys?
On 196 countries only a handful feel messed up.
Most are even unknown to most and life goes on.
My bet is, you should turn off the TV/Internet and start living a bit ;)
If you take care of yourself, the world will take care on its own.
Quote from: Le Celticant on Aug 18, 2016, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jul 19, 2016, 09:42:08 PM
Getting depressed on whats going on with the world,what about you guys?
On 196 countries only a handful feel messed up.
Most are even unknown to most and life goes on.
My bet is, you should turn off the TV/Internet and start living a bit ;)
If you take care of yourself, the world will take care on its own.
Yes this I agree with for sure. I don't watch the news, read newspapers, or pay attention to any drama going on around the world.
The only worries I have are my own personal ones with health & other things in my life. Not to say I don't have much compassion for fellow
humans around the globe but honestly, what am I going to do from my little corner of existence? Not like I'm ever going to travel to any of these
places that have troubles going on so I can't spend much time if any at all thinking about it. That's just me though. No offense to those that do
get depressed over world events.
I avoid drama no matter how small as I can't be doing with the hassle. That's why I got rid of facebook a while ago and don't miss it what so ever. Sleep is a joke and anxiety seems to win over everything. Leaving the house my anxiety gets worse and the doctors are a joke. All the docs say is drink water and go the gym lol. Wow, all this time my mental illness and other problems can be solved with water and the trip to the gym apparently.
Quote from: XenoZipper on Aug 18, 2016, 03:38:29 PM
I've been having daily anxiety attacks that last pretty much the whole day for the last month. Been so fun. No, not interested to take the topic any further. My anger has been way too quick to rise as well these days so I try not to say anything or talk to people much anymore.
I know the feeling mate. Can't talk to anybody. If I do I either get angry, not at the person I'm talking to, or my anxiety and paranoia set's in as well as tears. It's annoying as hell.
Quote from: XenoZipper on Aug 18, 2016, 05:57:48 PM
Know that feeling. I'm awake everyday until 4 or 5am just tossing and turning. Been doing that for the last month or so. It's all personal & health probs. I couldn't care less what's going on around the globe for probs.
Been like that for months myself. Sometimes I've been going off and hours sleep to being awake for 36 hours with little to no sleep. I'm not allowed sleeping tablets either.
My normal escapes don't work anymore.
We are definitely going through very very similar things Xeno_Alpha. I don't like the quick to anger part at all. Even though I'm not actually mad at the person I'm talking to, I'll still be snappy at them making it seem like I'm directing it towards them when it's more of a case of "friendly fire" if you know what I mean. They just happen to be in the vicinity & my fire & I always feel horrible for that afterward. I'll be honest & the only thing that was helping suppress this anxiety side of me was marijuana. Been a smoker since I was in the 8th grade & I'm now 34 but recently I lost my job & my apartment & haven't been able to afford "my" medication (as no docs here will prescribe that stuff to me) & all the anxiety feelings I've been suppressing for so long are just flowing up like lava. That stuff also greatly helped me sleep as well & without it now I'm the same & awake for always 2 days at a time.
I agree doctors are a joke as well. Aside from the anxiety fun, I also have psoriasis which is a skin disorder & I got it in random spots all over. Needless to say, that also make me feel uncomfortable to go out in public unless I'm wearing a long sleeve shirt & pants so no one has to see it (I've had bad reactions from friends in the past when they saw it the first time. Didn't make me feel too good about it). Well my doc's sugestion was, "go outside & sit in the sun. go to a beach or something". Uh yea, easier said then done when people have reacted badly towards it most your life.
Though I will say, the 1 thing that has helped me in little small doses when I do start to feel an anxiety attack coming, is talking to someone that is going through almost the same thing as you. Others knowledge of it has been helpful for me to understand it a little better & try to have better control when an attack comes.
Quote from: XenoZipper on Aug 19, 2016, 04:37:43 PM
We are definitely going through very very similar things Xeno_Alpha. I don't like the quick to anger part at all. Even though I'm not actually mad at the person I'm talking to, I'll still be snappy at them making it seem like I'm directing it towards them when it's more of a case of "friendly fire" if you know what I mean. They just happen to be in the vicinity & my fire & I always feel horrible for that afterward. I'll be honest & the only thing that was helping suppress this anxiety side of me was marijuana. Been a smoker since I was in the 8th grade & I'm now 34 but recently I lost my job & my apartment & haven't been able to afford "my" medication (as no docs here will prescribe that stuff to me) & all the anxiety feelings I've been suppressing for so long are just flowing up like lava. That stuff also greatly helped me sleep as well & without it now I'm the same & awake for always 2 days at a time.
I agree doctors are a joke as well. Aside from the anxiety fun, I also have psoriasis which is a skin disorder & I got it in random spots all over. Needless to say, that also make me feel uncomfortable to go out in public unless I'm wearing a long sleeve shirt & pants so no one has to see it (I've had bad reactions from friends in the past when they saw it the first time. Didn't make me feel too good about it). Well my doc's sugestion was, "go outside & sit in the sun. go to a beach or something". Uh yea, easier said then done when people have reacted badly towards it most your life.
Though I will say, the 1 thing that has helped me in little small doses when I do start to feel an anxiety attack coming, is talking to someone that is going through almost the same thing as you. Others knowledge of it has been helpful for me to understand it a little better & try to have better control when an attack comes.
Just a little note, speaking from experience...smoking anything cigarettes, weed,...will always make you snappier, especially the day after, and especially when you quit, for 2 weeks you're ultra depressed and super irritable. The best way to quit, which anyone should, putting smoke in your body is not very smart even if you think it helps in the long term it does damage, is to take a nice long camping trip for 2 weeks in the middle of nowhere and fight with nature lol. It's a hard 2-3 weeks, especially the first 5 days, than your brain gets programmed to forget it. Any addiction can be overcome with time, but you must go through the necessary 2 week suffering program. Go on a mission, climb a mountain, go find Yoda.
Quote from: xeno_alpha_07 on Aug 19, 2016, 11:13:08 AM
I avoid drama no matter how small as I can't be doing with the hassle.
Same here, though my OCD can make that even more difficult for me at times, intrusive thoughts are no fun at all.
Quote from: Nostromo on Aug 19, 2016, 04:45:42 PM
Quote from: XenoZipper on Aug 19, 2016, 04:37:43 PM
We are definitely going through very very similar things Xeno_Alpha. I don't like the quick to anger part at all. Even though I'm not actually mad at the person I'm talking to, I'll still be snappy at them making it seem like I'm directing it towards them when it's more of a case of "friendly fire" if you know what I mean. They just happen to be in the vicinity & my fire & I always feel horrible for that afterward. I'll be honest & the only thing that was helping suppress this anxiety side of me was marijuana. Been a smoker since I was in the 8th grade & I'm now 34 but recently I lost my job & my apartment & haven't been able to afford "my" medication (as no docs here will prescribe that stuff to me) & all the anxiety feelings I've been suppressing for so long are just flowing up like lava. That stuff also greatly helped me sleep as well & without it now I'm the same & awake for always 2 days at a time.
I agree doctors are a joke as well. Aside from the anxiety fun, I also have psoriasis which is a skin disorder & I got it in random spots all over. Needless to say, that also make me feel uncomfortable to go out in public unless I'm wearing a long sleeve shirt & pants so no one has to see it (I've had bad reactions from friends in the past when they saw it the first time. Didn't make me feel too good about it). Well my doc's sugestion was, "go outside & sit in the sun. go to a beach or something". Uh yea, easier said then done when people have reacted badly towards it most your life.
Though I will say, the 1 thing that has helped me in little small doses when I do start to feel an anxiety attack coming, is talking to someone that is going through almost the same thing as you. Others knowledge of it has been helpful for me to understand it a little better & try to have better control when an attack comes.
Just a little note, speaking from experience...smoking anything cigarettes, weed,...will always make you snappier, especially the day after, and especially when you quit, for 2 weeks you're ultra depressed and super irritable. The best way to quit, which anyone should, putting smoke in your body is not very smart even if you think it helps in the long term it does damage, is to take a nice long camping trip for 2 weeks in the middle of nowhere and fight with nature lol. It's a hard 2-3 weeks, especially the first 5 days, than your brain gets programmed to forget it. Any addiction can be overcome with time, but you must go through the necessary 2 week suffering program. Go on a mission, climb a mountain, go find Yoda.
That I don't agree with. I've never been snappy the next day ever. What works for you isn't necessarily going to work for another. Everyone is different just like in my experience weed effects everyone differently. For me, it helps with my probs. I'm not a nature type person in the slightest or care for camping so that method won't work for me. I'm not "addicted" to weed either. I just use to help deal with my pain & other things. There's many benefits to weed if you do the research into it. It also doesn't always need to be smoked. There's alternate methods. I'm not in need of any sort of drug rehabilitation. It's only weed & it's the only drug I do. Just my 2 cents on the matter. Not interested in talking about my probs here anymore.
Trust issues can be a real bitch. Holy shit.l
Quote from: Kaltes on Aug 25, 2016, 05:10:59 AM
Trust issues can be a real bitch. Holy shit.l
Depends if you had expectation or not.
Quote from: Le Celticant on Aug 28, 2016, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: Kaltes on Aug 25, 2016, 05:10:59 AM
Trust issues can be a real bitch. Holy shit.l
Depends if you had expectation or not.
I try not to, but even then...
Then just don't ! There's nothing to be worried, disappointed or angry about if you don't expect anything beside knowing that the things that comes out are always unexpected.
Don't take it too hard on others because you're only doing this on yourself ;)
I have a really strong feeling I might drop out of university. I don't really have any free days because of work, and the time I supposedly dedicate to studying I just end up blowing off and wasting by watching tv shows or playing games. Talking with my therapist is sorta helping, but I have way too may problems to focus on at once. For now we're handling my self esteem issues related to body image, which is really helping.
But I feel if I keep this up I'll just drop out. I just can't focus on studies no matter how much I want and try. Worst part is this is actually what I want to do in life.
Quote from: Deadmeat on Dec 07, 2016, 11:14:02 AM
I have a really strong feeling I might drop out of university. I don't really have any free days because of work, and the time I supposedly dedicate to studying I just end up blowing off and wasting by watching tv shows or playing games. Talking with my therapist is sorta helping, but I have way too may problems to focus on at once. For now we're handling my self esteem issues related to body image, which is really helping.
But I feel if I keep this up I'll just drop out. I just can't focus on studies no matter how much I want and try. Worst part is this is actually what I want to do in life.
You can always go back to Univiersity. The main thing right now is getting to the core of your troubles. I dropped out with less than three months to go in my third year, I was pretty much f**king everything up anyway, but after taking a year off, getting myself better, I'm looking to go back next year
My grandma just passed away.
OD'd the other day. Worst depression of my life for about 5 hours or so. Literally hell.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Dec 08, 2016, 04:05:36 AM
My grandma just passed away.
Sorry to hear that bro. Mine died earlier this year at 95 years of age.
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 10, 2016, 01:16:28 AM
OD'd the other day. Worst depression of my life for about 5 hours or so. Literally hell.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Dec 08, 2016, 04:05:36 AM
My grandma just passed away.
man 2016 is a bad year
Sorry to hear that bro. Mine died earlier this year at 95 years of age.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Dec 08, 2016, 04:05:36 AM
My grandma just passed away.
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 10, 2016, 01:16:28 AM
OD'd the other day. Worst depression of my life for about 5 hours or so. Literally hell.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Dec 08, 2016, 04:05:36 AM
My grandma just passed away.
Sorry to hear that bro. Mine died earlier this year at 95 years of age.
Sorry to hear that for both of you :(
95 years HOLLY !!!!!! That's incredible, I wish you the same at least ;)
Yes had them, after losing loved ones, couldnt sit in a barber chair normal anymore, ran out of a Macdonalds in Paris because i tought i was gonna suffocate.
We men have a problem to not always listen to our "voices" not the dark ones that say kill kill kill killl kill ;) but the ones that say,
i dont like this or this is bad for you or my soul, most men are sensitive but ignore that and see it as a flaw or weakness, or some are scared because maybe they could be gay or have to much feminim in them.
f**k all that, our stupid society thaught us most of this bs, mentally we ignore things and say ah i just push on through,
its the same as when you feel an ache in your toe and you think ahh i push on through it will be over when im on the other side,
and then you to your toe and its f**king gone!!! Matter of speaking.
Your brain can do a lot, but the guy behind the wheel can be a stuborn ssshole and yes thats you :) trust me i know.
What helps is rotating your brain, it means when you think you are stuck or when you are extremely down, do the opposite,
in down i want to kill or cry, well if you are gonna cry just go ahead and cry, do you want to hurt somebody, go out and approach someone,
look them in the eye, and be a man and really look them in the eye and just ask them how is your day going or how are you? And that person will always surprise you, some will say: i just came from my mothers funeral and some say: oh great after a long time i found a job.
If you are fat or just big and you are oppressing yourself, just go out and run for 50 meters or walk, just go out and let yourself go,
same as for gay people just go, f**k it just f**king go!!
But keep moving and rotating, people arent that hard as they pretend to be, not you not your neighbour, nobody!!
See the weakness in everything and not the struggle or harshness, because in the end you are your enviroment,
people will see that and remember that, you think Just Bieber is the only one with fans? Everybody has fans,
but not all will tell you this.
Diagnosed with psychosis recently. Schizophrenia suspected by multiple doctors. Hard to know since I've also been suspected of bipolarism and autism.
I just had a massive anxiety attack. Couldn't sleep for about 30 hours, had numbness and shooting pain throughout my limbs and face, could taste something bad, but strangely my heart was pretty standard. No chest pains, just a scared persons slightly faster heartbeat. I ended up in the emergency room at midnight with my face and neck on fire.
I had no idea anxiety could make you have a phantom stroke. I've had a phantom heart attack from anxiety (years ago), but this was new and kind of scary. The symptoms have mostly died down now, just some headaches and a bad taste. Waiting on some blood test results to rule out anything like diabetes or whatever (I really have no idea what else causes these symptoms, but it looked like they were testing for at least a half dozen things).
I might need to look at some meds again, though it would be short term.
Why don't you get a bottle of Xanax for situations like that? I would never suffer another anxiety attack again if I didn't have to.
I don't want this to be a common problem, but I suppose I should look into some sleep aides.
Vitamin D might help too.
been suffering from anxiety since i was a little kid. .dunno why. .i just do. .and i suffer from depressionl. .anxiety and depression go hand in hand. .tho my depression is not nearly as bad as it used to be. .i seem to have outgrown the latter. .anxiety is still a bitch . .at work i get severe sweaty palms. .i constantly have to wipe my hands and i also shiver and tremble quite easily. .extremely high strung as well. .i tend to pase up and down when i am alone. .endlesly sometimes. I have to realy tell myself. .just sit down and f**king relax. .dude. .lol.
. .what has worked for me tremendously is exercise. .i gym 3 to 4 times a week. .they say it is the equivelant of taking a mild to medium anti depressant. .your brain releases indorfins after exercise. .so you just feel beter and happier during the day. .it counteracts depresion and anxiety. .i have nothing against meds. .but i like to drink as well. .and i fear if i start taking meds i will have to stop this little social activity. .i often drink when i am alone as well, but i stay alone so what the f**k. .i occationally smoke pot. .but just purely for the fun of it. . So i am not major on drugs or alcahol. .but at the same time i probably drink more than the average person. .and combining that with priscription drugs. .never a good idea. .so i stick to my exercise. .makes me feel good and i got a neat 6 pack at the age of 46. .round ass and a neat set of bicepts. .but exercise takes an incredible amount of dissipline. .but it gets your mind of things as well. .it is odly addictive once u get into the routine of doing it. .sorry for my horrendous spelling btw. .english is not my first language. .
Another anxiety attack is happening right now. Trying to stay calm and just weather it out. I don't like that this can just happen randomly. I need to get some medication.
Edit: Maybe I was just more prepared for this one, because it was pretty easy to deal with. Symptoms weren't nearly as bad as last time, it was more of an annoyance than anything. It was 18 hours before I could finally get some sleep. If this had happened one day later, it would have seriously messed some things up.
I deal with a lot of depression and anxiety also. The bad stuff going on in the world makes me feel very worry that the whole Earth will be destroyed in my life time and I don't want to see it happen. I'm 26, still at a community college, working at a job that pays $8.75 a hour and still living with my family. Stuff like NK, Russia and Global Warming really gets to me.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Aug 14, 2017, 07:15:55 PM
I deal with a lot of depression and anxiety also. The bad stuff going on in the world makes me feel very worry that the whole Earth will be destroyed in my life time and I don't want to see it happen. I'm 26, still at a community college, working at a job that pays $8.75 a hour and still living with my family. Stuff like NK, Russia and Global Warming really gets to me.
The Yellowstone supervolcano is what gets to me.
At least that one won't be active for another century or more. The stuff on the news with Russia and NK are worst.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Aug 15, 2017, 02:46:02 AM
At least that one won't be active for another century or more. The stuff on the news with Russia and NK are worst.
Really? Could have sworn that one was up in the air. Oh well, there's probably another time bomb out there. Anything with the capability to disrupt modern infrastructure, as that will be the main killer. A population this sized starves to death if that happens, and I don't have the skill or means to be one of the few that makes it through. And even if I do, I've only ever known a comfortable life. I don't know how the f**k to get by if that changes.
Plenty to worry about, but a lot of it is outside of my power. Just got to keep on keeping on and try to improve the things I can. I actually have a doctors appointment every day of this week doing just that, and I know there's more coming.
If you can't do anything about it, no point in worrying about it.
I worry because there is so much that I want to do in life and I don't want to die early. I hate how we have people in our office that don't seem to care about the world that we live in. They seem to care more about power than anything else.
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 15, 2017, 03:14:32 AM
If you can't do anything about it, no point in worrying about it.
Believe me, I agree. If you convince my body as well, that'd be sick.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Aug 15, 2017, 04:24:15 AM
I worry because there is so much that I want to do in life and I don't want to die early. I hate how we have people in our office that don't seem to care about the world that we live in. They seem to care more about power than anything else.
On the one hand, you could argue that you've survived under that sword for your entire life, and that you're only more aware that it's above ya. Then again, you could probably make good arguments for the sword being more likely to fall than before.
Shits complicated and the human brain loathes that.
Watched a documentary on war rape(man humanity never learns!)so depressed after watching it.
Quote from: Sabby on Aug 14, 2017, 09:56:34 PM
The Yellowstone supervolcano is what gets to me.
https://www.wired.com/2016/01/chill-out-yellowstone-isnt-about-to-destroy-us-all/ (https://www.wired.com/2016/01/chill-out-yellowstone-isnt-about-to-destroy-us-all/)
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/news/a27829/nasa-yellowstone-supervolcano/
Fine, solar flares then :P
Have you seen that Nicolas Cage movie, Knowing?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 19, 2017, 12:32:15 AM
Have you seen that Nicolas Cage movie, Knowing?
Reviews, yeah.
Nobody knows when their time will come. Unless you do the job yourself, but such a waste.
Quote from: Sabby on Aug 19, 2017, 12:29:48 AM
Fine, solar flares then :P
Don't you live in Australia? For all our dangerous flora, we're actually one of the countries least likely to be hit by a horrifying natural disaster outside of a cyclone.
Solar flares aren't that big of an issue -- might knock out some electronics, but nothing we can't fix. Coronal mass ejections are the real worry -- they'd absolutely destroy us -- but the chance of actually being hit by one are so infinitessimally slim you'd need to also be worried about the "false vacuum" concept (it basically states that space isn't really a vacuum and that reality might collapse any second without warning.)
Believe, I'm fully aware of how irrational such fears are, I just wish that awareness stopped them. I'll deal. Now, a Funnel Web in my home...
Aim another one at Canberra next time parliament sits...
Has SM, Sabby or SiL ever seen this movie?
No, but Arachnophobia has been on the backburner for me and partner. Will probably need to strap myself down.
These Final Hours is the best Aussie genre film since Mad Max.
How about On the Beach? Australia sure seems like the place to be when you want to die last.
I thought I recognized it, but there's another small budget Aussie Apocalypse movie about aliens trying to save us from zombies, and it was the most intentionally and gloriously stupid thing I've ever seen. I wish I remembered the name, all I remember is a gruff Russel Crow knockoff in a long coat and broad hat with sawn off shotguns pulling some Resident Evil level nonsense.
On topic, just got my anxiety meds. Hope this helps... I don't want to stay on this particular wagon for long.
On The Beach was filmed where I grew up.
Mad Max was filmed where I used to live.
Long before I lived in either.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 23, 2017, 01:46:21 AM
These Final Hours is the best Aussie genre film since Mad Max.
Time Guardian tho?
Found it!
I was wrong in saying he has dual sawn offs. He had three.
So, a lot happened since my last anxiety attack. I was sent to a cardiologist, a dietitian, a physiologist, and also put on 20mg of Paroxetine and a Vitamin D supplement. Blood pressure was fine. I'm 10 days into the diet (daily kj limit of 7000), but only 4 days into the meds and work out routine. It's honestly not that hard, so far. I was 178kg a while ago and knocked it down to 150kg without all this, so pretty sure I can beat this. I'm just happy to be able to sleep again and get through my day without the random anxiety.
You guys have been patient as f**k with me, I know I must have lacked decorum on occasions because of all of this, so blanket apologies to anyone I was an asshole towards. I'll get my shit together.
Don't worry. As David said, 'big things have small beginnings.' ;D
Red Queen hypothesis.
Law of the jungle, etc. Nature is always trying to kill you.
I really won the epigenetic jackpot. Not only am I a (supposedly) high-functioning autist, I also have (to little surprise) anxiety and clinical depression. There's also good evidence that I developed bipolar type 2 in my mid-twenties. I've been on the proverbial happy pills since I was in my early teens, and I doubt I'll ever be able to go off them. I wasted the good part of a year trying to lower the doses as much as possible, under my shrink's guidance, and it didn't work out so well.
I'm currently in the midst of one of those "welp, something stopped working, so now I have to spend months weaning myself off the thing that doesn't work to avoid excessive withdrawal symptoms and then introduce the new thing and hope for the best" transition periods. My life needs a real kick in the rear -- eat better! exercise! get regular sleep! GET A JOB!!! -- but at times like this.. Well, it's hard to want to do anything. (Even wasting time on the computer can feel like a chore.) New drugs should arrive in the mail soon. I'm hoping for a hell of a breakthrough.
Quote from: Reichu on Aug 29, 2017, 07:46:46 PM
I really won the epigenetic jackpot. Not only am I a (supposedly) high-functioning autist, I also have (to little surprise) anxiety and clinical depression. There's also good evidence that I developed bipolar type 2 in my mid-twenties. I've been on the proverbial happy pills since I was in my early teens, and I doubt I'll ever be able to go off them. I wasted the good part of a year trying to lower the doses as much as possible, under my shrink's guidance, and it didn't work out so well.
I'm currently in the midst of one of those "welp, something stopped working, so now I have to spend months weaning myself off the thing that doesn't work to avoid excessive withdrawal symptoms and then introduce the new thing and hope for the best" transition periods. My life needs a real kick in the rear -- eat better! exercise! get regular sleep! GET A JOB!!! -- but at times like this.. Well, it's hard to want to do anything. (Even wasting time on the computer can feel like a chore.) New drugs should arrive in the mail soon. I'm hoping for a hell of a breakthrough.
I feel ya man. I stupidly went cold turkey last time I had to come off the meds. Don't be me, it was a nightmare.
Quote from: SM on Aug 23, 2017, 02:21:01 AM
On The Beach was filmed where I grew up.
Gregory Peck or Armand Assante version?
Here's a good movie to lighten your mood:
OG.
I remember liking this one more than The Road, if only for the ballsy ending.
Did it help with your anxiety?
In the sense it distracted me, sure.
Quote from: SM on Aug 31, 2017, 06:15:36 AM
OG.
Do you ever wish you were a Kiwi so you could say you live in Middle-earth?
New Zealand has a population of 4 million.
Everyone in the country either worked on one of 'The Lord of the Rings' / 'The Hobbit' movies - or knows someone who did. lol
-Windebieste.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 31, 2017, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 31, 2017, 06:15:36 AM
OG.
Do you ever wish you were a Kiwi so you could say you live in Middle-earth?
Constantly.
If I ever win lotto I'd buy a house in Queenstown. And another one in the Bay of Islands.
Any Australian who wished they were a Kiwi is a disgrace to this proud nation and the Kiwi-hating for which it stands.
lol. The Guy who made the gelatin ears and hairy hobbit feet is a friend of mine. I'll pass on your love for his nation for you.
This gon b gud. ;D
-Windebieste.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 31, 2017, 12:15:00 PM
Any Australian who wished they were a Kiwi is a disgrace to this proud nation and the Kiwi-hating for which it stands.
But their sports teams though.
Only the All Blacks. And the Silver Ferns. Their other teams are fairly shithouse.
Quote from: SM on Aug 31, 2017, 08:09:39 PM
Only the All Blacks.
Do they represent Mordor?
No other teams have a Hobbit with a magic ring, so they might as well.
No-one drinks Fosters.
Those ads are how we learn about Australia in the US. Telling me you don't drink Foster's is like telling me you don't own a kangaroo.
I don't need to own one, I just go outside and wrangle one.
Could you understand what the "GPS" guy was saying in that ad at 1:05?
Quote from: SiL on Aug 31, 2017, 09:49:40 PM
I don't need to own one, I just go outside and wrangle one.
Just whistle through a gum leaf.
That just attracts drop bears.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 31, 2017, 12:15:00 PM
Any Australian who wished they were a Kiwi is a disgrace to this proud nation and the Kiwi-hating for which it stands.
That's racist man. :o
Did you mean: Infiltrator (https://www.google.com/search?nfpr=1&biw=1254&bih=748&q=Infiltrator&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwit_MXRzILWAhXJzlQKHTkwBLUQBQgjKAA)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 31, 2017, 11:13:36 PM
Did you mean: Infiltrator (https://www.google.com/search?nfpr=1&biw=1254&bih=748&q=Infiltrator&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwit_MXRzILWAhXJzlQKHTkwBLUQBQgjKAA)
No dude, I meant infilitrator. As in I remove infilling.
Bumping this thread for a question.
As someone with a diagnosed anxiety disorder and ADHD, I'm interested in hearing anyone's possible experience with Adderall. Anyone who might share?
Quote from: Deadmeat on Sep 21, 2017, 10:43:57 AM
Bumping this thread for a question.
As someone with a diagnosed anxiety disorder and ADHD, I'm interested in hearing anyone's possible experience with Adderall. Anyone who might share?
Never been on that one, I'm afraid.
Apparently, my current meds aren't strong enough. Had another anxiety attack while getting my blood pressure checked. It was 'slightly high'. This wasn't new information, but for some reason just hearing that set me off. I'm terrified for my health, I guess. I've lost 30kg (that's 66 pounds), but I still have another 60 kilos (132 pounds) to reach my target weight. Anyway, I spent that day at the hospital, again, nurses had to basically babysit me while I calmed down. Hard not to feel like a five foot seven baby.
What medications have you actually tried for your anxiety?
I was on Lexapro, Respiradone and Effexor at varying times, I think. It's 20mg of Paroxetine right now, but I doubled the dose. The alternative is waiting weeks for my regular doctor to get back into town and tell me to raise it.
Do you drink alcohol?
No.
Sorry to hear that man, but you really shouldn't be ashamed of your condition. You didn't choose it, after all. The nurses were understanding.
I know this forum is quite old but its very relevant. I too often wake up feeling very depressed. I always feel likeI'm not sure where my life is going. That brings on Anxiety. However Movies have always been there for me, like family. Whenever I'm going through something bad, I always remember what movie I was watching around that time. But I just can't seem to snap out of it. Some days I'm happy, others I want to tell everybody just to leave me alone. I've become disconnected from society. Most weekends I just sit there and watch Blu rays. I don't want to take medication. Sometimes I wish I could meet some of the people on this site as I feel like we'd have more in common than my real life relationships.
Man, I don't know what I'm going to do...
I have Autism. My boyfriend has Autism. We're both unemployed manchildren on opposite sides of the planet (yep, it's long distance) and for years we've just pushed the issue back. Even finding work is a huge hurdle for us, let alone visiting each other, and ultimately immigrating. Well, the topic finally came up yesterday and it was made pretty clear that we gotta lay out a roadmap or this won't work, and my anxiety hit me so hard that my skin turned numb.
I'm f**king terrified and I don't know what to do. I guess I have to get some help. Not really sure where to go for that. I've Googled Autism assistance in Australia, and I guess I have to talk to my job provider and look at university. I'm just feeling overwhelmed and demoralized, but I can't let that stop me. I'm gunna have another fake stroke at this rate.
Quote from: Sabby on Feb 18, 2018, 02:07:34 AM
Man, I don't know what I'm going to do...
I have Autism. My boyfriend has Autism. We're both unemployed manchildren on opposite sides of the planet (yep, it's long distance) and for years we've just pushed the issue back. Even finding work is a huge hurdle for us, let alone visiting each other, and ultimately immigrating. Well, the topic finally came up yesterday and it was made pretty clear that we gotta lay out a roadmap or this won't work, and my anxiety hit me so hard that my skin turned numb.
I'm f**king terrified and I don't know what to do. I guess I have to get some help. Not really sure where to go for that. I've Googled Autism assistance in Australia, and I guess I have to talk to my job provider and look at university. I'm just feeling overwhelmed and demoralized, but I can't let that stop me. I'm gunna have another fake stroke at this rate.
I can relate, plus at least you are trying. Had this girlfriend over at Australia as well and we went strong, but stress took toll on her because we couldn't see each other and felt what's the point if we are far apart. I first managed to convince her to stay longer but eventually she gave up and it still stings a bit thinking about it to this day. I keep thinking about how quickly I can find a job around here and avoid having my parents helping me with debt. They have worked for decades, hard labors since they were 10ys old, as back in Guatemala, it was a bit of 3rd world years ago due to the civil war we had going on that trashed the country and soon enough nerve and muscle problems are emerging now and I can't bear having them work more. They haven't even started saving for retirement and i feel f**ked. I mean at least I'm in college and soon will be able to work at studios doing animation work and other things but finding those jobs is tough, competition is fierce but man the thought of failure creeps on me every day.
Funny enough, I never felt fear of failing myself as I can always get back up, but with family in mind, I feel if I fall once, its game over.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 18, 2018, 02:43:41 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Feb 18, 2018, 02:07:34 AM
Man, I don't know what I'm going to do...
I have Autism. My boyfriend has Autism. We're both unemployed manchildren on opposite sides of the planet (yep, it's long distance) and for years we've just pushed the issue back. Even finding work is a huge hurdle for us, let alone visiting each other, and ultimately immigrating. Well, the topic finally came up yesterday and it was made pretty clear that we gotta lay out a roadmap or this won't work, and my anxiety hit me so hard that my skin turned numb.
I'm f**king terrified and I don't know what to do. I guess I have to get some help. Not really sure where to go for that. I've Googled Autism assistance in Australia, and I guess I have to talk to my job provider and look at university. I'm just feeling overwhelmed and demoralized, but I can't let that stop me. I'm gunna have another fake stroke at this rate.
I can relate, plus at least you are trying. Had this girlfriend over at Australia as well and we went strong, but stress took toll on her because we couldn't see each other and felt what's the point if we are far apart. I first managed to convince her to stay longer but eventually she gave up and it still stings a bit thinking about it to this day. I keep thinking about how quickly I can find a job around here and avoid having my parents helping me with debt. They have worked for decades, hard labors since they were 10ys old, as back in Guatemala, it was a bit of 3rd world years ago due to the civil war we had going on that trashed the country and soon enough nerve and muscle problems are emerging now and I can't bear having them work more. They haven't even started saving for retirement and i feel f**ked. I mean at least I'm in college and soon will be able to work at studios doing animation work and other things but finding those jobs is tough, competition is fierce but man the thought of failure creeps on me every day.
Funny enough, I never felt fear of failing myself as I can always get back up, but with family in mind, I feel if I fall once, its game over.
I can relate to that last part. Feeling like you're the one who's going to hold up and ruin something others are involved in can feel like you're just waiting to drown.
f**k I wish it was Monday, just making some calls would be nice.
I know a psychologist who specialises in autism (mainly in kids, though). I'll ask her about good resources here. What state are you in?
Quote from: SiL on Feb 18, 2018, 03:28:09 AM
I know a psychologist who specialises in autism (mainly in kids, though). I'll ask her about good resources here. What state are you in?
Queensland. The offer is really appreciated.
That's convenient, so are we.
For those mentioning they are experiencing depression, anxiety, and mood disorder, abnormal blood pressure can definitely cause those problems. So the most basic step, when you are feeling that way check your blood pressure at that moment and record it for when you visit the doctor. BP kits are pretty cheap, I check mine every day.
I do have abnormal blood pressure. It's high, but normal for someone who weighs 140kg (Jesus, I am just ticking every box when it comes to no life neckbeard loser, aren't I?). I've lost 40kg, but I got at least another 50 to go. Blood pressure is going to be a thing for me for a while, I'm afraid.
I don't know much about anxiety , depression or mood disorders, but I was listening to this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Hari
on the radio a few days ago.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2018632489/johann-hari-lost-connections
He's just written a book about the subject:
QuoteJohann Hari is a Scottish-born, London-raised journalist, columnist and author. He has written for numerous outlets including The New York Times, Le Monde, and The Guardian. He was a columnist for the British newspaper The Independent for nine years before leaving amidst claims of plagiarism. He subsequently wrote a best-selling book Chasing The Scream, The First and Last Days of the War on Drugs, and has now followed that work with a new book, Lost Connections, which aims to reveal the real causes of anxiety and depression.
One of the things he says is that the biggest cause of the modern-day anxiety and dpression is the lack of human-to-human socialisation, especially as a result of the internet and social media. Malfunctioning hormones and neurotransmitters and other brain chemicals have an effect too, but not as great as the effects of loneliness that many people suffer from. He says one of the problems is that it's easier for psychiatrists to prescribe medication to improve a patient's brain chemicals than it is for them to prescribe a life-style to improve a patient's loneliness.
He's not against medication, but he says that the benefits of medication are much less than the benefits of socialisation.
TC
Over last year it has become apparent that my 2 1/2 year old son is autistic. We had to wait the last 6 months for an evaluation and diagnosis in order to get help but when the call came to set the appointment they informed us that they wont take my insurance. There are only a couple places within a hundred miles that do evaluations and they also won't take our insurance. We're going to have to pay out of pocket and we are already barely making it. Ive been feeling depressed and guilty like im not a good father and that its all my fault. Even though i know logically i shouldnt feel that way. I feel exhausted from holding back tears everyday and feeling that way also makes me feel guilty.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 18, 2018, 02:35:35 PM
Over last year it has become apparent that my 2 1/2 year old son is autistic. We had to wait the last 6 months for an evaluation and diagnosis in order to get help but when the call came to set the appointment they informed us that they wont take my insurance. There are only a couple places within a hundred miles that do evaluations and they also won't take our insurance. We're going to have to pay out of pocket and we are already barely making it. Ive been feeling depressed and guilty like im not a good father and that its all my fault. Even though i know logically i shouldnt feel that way. I feel exhausted from holding back tears everyday and feeling that way also makes me feel guilty.
Damn, that really f**king sucks. You seem to know whats up and what's just emotions, though, so you're on the right path. Hope you can get something soon.
Quote from: TC on Feb 18, 2018, 09:17:28 AM
I don't know much about anxiety , depression or mood disorders, but I was listening to this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Hari
on the radio a few days ago.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2018632489/johann-hari-lost-connections
He's just written a book about the subject:
QuoteJohann Hari is a Scottish-born, London-raised journalist, columnist and author. He has written for numerous outlets including The New York Times, Le Monde, and The Guardian. He was a columnist for the British newspaper The Independent for nine years before leaving amidst claims of plagiarism. He subsequently wrote a best-selling book Chasing The Scream, The First and Last Days of the War on Drugs, and has now followed that work with a new book, Lost Connections, which aims to reveal the real causes of anxiety and depression.
One of the things he says is that the biggest cause of the modern-day anxiety and dpression is the lack of human-to-human socialisation, especially as a result of the internet and social media. Malfunctioning hormones and neurotransmitters and other brain chemicals have an effect too, but not as great as the effects of loneliness that many people suffer from. He says one of the problems is that it's easier for psychiatrists to prescribe medication to improve a patient's brain chemicals than it is for them to prescribe a life-style to improve a patient's loneliness.
He's not against medication, but he says that the benefits of medication are much less than the benefits of socialisation.
TC
I've heard much of that over the years, and it does make a lot of sense.
So, I called Autism Awareness and they directed me to a company called Epic Employment, who apparently specializes in disability employment. They're just down the road, as well. I've left them a message and can hopefully schedule an appointment with them soon. I have no idea how to change my employment service, whether it's covered by my Centrelink, and if it's not, how the f**k I'll be able to pay for it, so still very anxious, but progress is progress.
Aaand my anxiety medication runs out tomorrow morning and I have no money to get more. This will be fun.
This may be TMI/blog material but I spent a few days in the psych hospital not too long ago. I had intentionally swallowed a lethal dosage of tylenol but the the pills seemed to have had a coating on them that causes you to vomit if you take too many. My liver and kidneys took no damage, thankfully.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jun 28, 2018, 01:13:35 AM
This may be TMI/blog material but I spent a few days in the psych hospital not too long ago. I had intentionally swallowed a lethal dosage of tylenol but the the pills seemed to have had a coating on them that causes you to vomit if you take too many. My liver and kidneys took no damage, thankfully.
That's a pretty cool feature. Sucks to hear about your hospital stay, man. Ya coming along?
Quote from: Sabby on Feb 18, 2018, 05:45:04 AM
I do have abnormal blood pressure. It's high, but normal for someone who weighs 140kg (Jesus, I am just ticking every box when it comes to no life neckbeard loser, aren't I?). I've lost 40kg, but I got at least another 50 to go. Blood pressure is going to be a thing for me for a while, I'm afraid.
I know your post was from a few months back, but just curious - have you had your thyroid levels checked? If you have a few extra pounds and depression is an issue for you, a lot of times that's an indication of hypothyroidism. I'd be curious to see where your T3/T4/TSH levels are at. We see hypothyroidism a lot with MDD/MDDRS patients. Hypothyroidism can absolutely make the situation worse.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jun 28, 2018, 01:13:35 AM
This may be TMI/blog material but I spent a few days in the psych hospital not too long ago. I had intentionally swallowed a lethal dosage of tylenol but the the pills seemed to have had a coating on them that causes you to vomit if you take too many. My liver and kidneys took no damage, thankfully.
I'm happy that your organs didn't take any long-term damage, and that you're doing well considering. I don't know if you're in the States, but have you considered participating in an intensive outpatient program? Many psych hospitals have them for newly discharged patients or patients who don't meet criteria for inpatient treatment. They are fabulous for keeping in touch with the behavioral health team after discharge.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 28, 2018, 01:53:43 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Feb 18, 2018, 05:45:04 AM
I do have abnormal blood pressure. It's high, but normal for someone who weighs 140kg (Jesus, I am just ticking every box when it comes to no life neckbeard loser, aren't I?). I've lost 40kg, but I got at least another 50 to go. Blood pressure is going to be a thing for me for a while, I'm afraid.
I know your post was from a few months back, but just curious - have you had your thyroid levels checked? If you have a few extra pounds and depression is an issue for you, a lot of times that's an indication of hypothyroidism. I'd be curious to see where your T3/T4/TSH levels are at. We see hypothyroidism a lot with MDD/MDDRS patients. Hypothyroidism can absolutely make the situation worse.
I wouldn't be surprised, but things have been going really well lately. I'm still at 140kg, but my waistline has shrunk a lot. Gone from a 7xl-9xl to a 5xl. Muscle mass is replacing the fat, so I'm not going to actually lose kilograms for a bit. Between the dietition, physiologist, and disability employment agency, things have been really looking up. I'm dieting and working out every morning, spending more time on Discord with partner (we live stream games for each other, watch movies and stuff, just recently did a big Warframe/Warcraft exchange because we both love one of them and wanted to share it) so our relationship has really strengthened.
This is still going to suck. A lot of waiting, a lot of uncertainty, but this is better. A lot f**king better. Hope everyone else that comes in here to share or help are pulling through. Shit gets better.
Quote from: Sabby on Jun 28, 2018, 02:08:38 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 28, 2018, 01:53:43 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Feb 18, 2018, 05:45:04 AM
I do have abnormal blood pressure. It's high, but normal for someone who weighs 140kg (Jesus, I am just ticking every box when it comes to no life neckbeard loser, aren't I?). I've lost 40kg, but I got at least another 50 to go. Blood pressure is going to be a thing for me for a while, I'm afraid.
I know your post was from a few months back, but just curious - have you had your thyroid levels checked? If you have a few extra pounds and depression is an issue for you, a lot of times that's an indication of hypothyroidism. I'd be curious to see where your T3/T4/TSH levels are at. We see hypothyroidism a lot with MDD/MDDRS patients. Hypothyroidism can absolutely make the situation worse.
I wouldn't be surprised, but things have been going really well lately. I'm still at 140kg, but my waistline has shrunk a lot. Gone from a 7xl-9xl to a 5xl. Muscle mass is replacing the fat, so I'm not going to actually lose kilograms for a bit. Between the dietition, physiologist, and disability employment agency, things have been really looking up. I'm dieting and working out every morning, spending more time on Discord with partner (we live stream games for each other, watch movies and stuff, just recently did a big Warframe/Warcraft exchange because we both love one of them and wanted to share it) so our relationship has really strengthened.
This is still going to suck. A lot of waiting, a lot of uncertainty, but this is better. A lot f**king better. Hope everyone else that comes in here to share or help are pulling through. Shit gets better.
Wow, that's an improvement from where you were a few months back! And that shrinking waistline is definitely evidence that what you're doing is working. Fantastic! I'm such a huge proponent of gaming with S.O.'s – either parallel play (playing different things at the same time) or together in co-op. I'd call that legitimate "quality time".
Also, I didn't mention it earlier, but hypothyroidism is treatable in case you do ever want to get those levels checked out. You'd just be taking levothyroxine to correct the imbalance :)
Quote from: Sabby on Jun 28, 2018, 01:53:28 AMThat's a pretty cool feature. Sucks to hear about your hospital stay, man. Ya coming along?
Yep. I was having some nasty side effects from the antipsychotics but I'm not on them now. Other than my doctor thinking im hypomanic, not much else has happened.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 28, 2018, 01:53:43 AM
I'm happy that your organs didn't take any long-term damage, and that you're doing well considering. I don't know if you're in the States, but have you considered participating in an intensive outpatient program? Many psych hospitals have them for newly discharged patients or patients who don't meet criteria for inpatient treatment. They are fabulous for keeping in touch with the behavioral health team after discharge.
Intensive outpatient was offered to me but I said no. My insurance changed and now I'm seen multiple times a week by a nurse/case manager so I don't think I need it.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jun 28, 2018, 02:27:39 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Jun 28, 2018, 01:53:28 AMThat's a pretty cool feature. Sucks to hear about your hospital stay, man. Ya coming along?
Yep. I was having some nasty side effects from the antipsychotics but I'm not on them now. Other than my doctor thinking im hypomanic, not much else has happened.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 28, 2018, 01:53:43 AM
I'm happy that your organs didn't take any long-term damage, and that you're doing well considering. I don't know if you're in the States, but have you considered participating in an intensive outpatient program? Many psych hospitals have them for newly discharged patients or patients who don't meet criteria for inpatient treatment. They are fabulous for keeping in touch with the behavioral health team after discharge.
Intensive outpatient was offered to me but I said no. My insurance changed and now I'm seen multiple times a week by a nurse/case manager so I don't think I need it.
Oh, well that's probably better than outpatient since you're being seen one-on-one in any event. Insurance is a b**** and can really screw up people's medical care. As a nurse, it's infuriating >:(
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jun 28, 2018, 02:27:39 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Jun 28, 2018, 01:53:28 AMThat's a pretty cool feature. Sucks to hear about your hospital stay, man. Ya coming along?
Yep. I was having some nasty side effects from the antipsychotics but I'm not on them now. Other than my doctor thinking im hypomanic, not much else has happened.
I'm not going to tell you to cheer up, because if you could, you would have by now, so here's my Vulcan way of offering help. You don't get a phone plan for 18 months when you're not stable or thinking erratically. Suicide? That shits forever. No backsies. The next time you feel like dying, put that off until you feel stable enough to actually think about what that entails and what you're signing up for.
I'm speaking from experience here. I've never actually tried to kill myself, but I've wanted to, and I always thought better of it when I was of sounder mind. That kind of reflection only made me less likely to go through with it in the future.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 28, 2018, 02:26:44 AMWow, that's an improvement from where you were a few months back! And that shrinking waistline is definitely evidence that what you're doing is working. Fantastic! I'm such a huge proponent of gaming with S.O.'s – either parallel play (playing different things at the same time) or together in co-op. I'd call that legitimate "quality time".
Also, I didn't mention it earlier, but hypothyroidism is treatable in case you do ever want to get those levels checked out. You'd just be taking levothyroxine to correct the imbalance :)
Yeah, The Forest was one of our best gaming memories together, for a lot of reasons that aren't relevant to this topic (lets just say it built a bridge between out gaming interests and we got really invested). I love Warframe, he loves Warcraft, we don't know much about the other, and both games have big story content dropping right now, so I spent a session showing him all the Warframe lore up to the new content and streamed it for him. He's shown me the Warcraft stuff and I'll watch him play Battle for Azeroth when it drops.
That, and I'm playing through the Kingdom Hearts games for him for the first time because it's part of his childhood and it's always been an easy thing for me to make fun of. Second games really good so far, just f**k me these games are making the jokes worse. It's every bit as Autistic as I thought it was.
But yeah, I guess the point of this was that text isn't enough. Talk on voice.
I have a job now. Working part time at an Indian restaurant. It's one of the most stressful things I've ever done but I'm keeping my head above water. Plenty of f**k ups, but boss is pretty understanding. Only done 3 shifts and I know I've improved. Even got a tip for good service.
Though, I did have to cut my hair pretty short. Between the loss of the metal locks, 90% humidity, thigh rash and all the stressful social interaction, I'm feeling every bit the fat, unprepared, awkward, clinically anxious Autismo I am, but somehow I'm managing.
Quote from: Sabby on Jul 07, 2018, 03:48:50 AM
I have a job now. Working part time at an Indian restaurant. It's one of the most stressful things I've ever done but I'm keeping my head above water. Plenty of f**k ups, but boss is pretty understanding. Only done 3 shifts and I know I've improved. Even got a tip for good service.
Though, I did have to cut my hair pretty short. Between the loss of the metal locks, 90% humidity, thigh rash and all the stressful social interaction, I'm feeling every bit the fat, unprepared, awkward, clinically anxious Autismo I am, but somehow I'm managing.
If it is not an intrusion from a stranger, I once attempted to work in the kitchens in a nursing home: dear God, I was incompetent. You are doing better than I ever did.
This is an interesting thread and a kindly meant one, thank you. I will give my own conditions and hope you will all forgive me my oddities.
There's rather a list:
Asperger's Syndrome, Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (purely obsessional), intrusive thoughts, depression, sleep-paralysis, night-terrors.
Medication:
Diazepam (Valium) 60mg daily.
Fluoxetine (Prozac) 80mg daily.
Quetiapine (i.e. fumarate of quetiapine) 700mg daily.
Zopiclone (sleeping-pills) 7.5mg daily.
I can only offer my sincerest good wishes to fellow sufferers. I have been in a mental hospital, which was really quite a black time.
I ''present'' as very stiff, awkward, clumsy to the point of absurdity, old-fashioned a bookworm, chronically anxious and reliant on sedatives.
I regret that I do not work save for occasional corrections of manuscripts for a small fee (though, to my great delight, some poems of mine were published a little while ago in an amateur periodical: a fee of but ten pounds, but that was the better part of the cost of a bottle of wine for Mother!). I remain with my dear mother (almost my last surviving relative on speaking terms -- life is quite emphatically unfair), who fortunately receives a fairly generous Civil Service pension and we are poor enough but a fairly happy home life (my twin sister is bipolar, autistic and an alcoholic, absolutely chaotic life, poor little devil).
I confess, with regard to nightmares and night terrors, which I have always had, although I hate and dread them there are times I would not be without them: the veil between this world and the nightmare images of a Bosch or a Giger is thinner then than ever.
OCD is horrible, I can't say how I loathe it. I hate it more than I hate anything, I think. Thank God I have a civil and erudite CBT therapist who will talk to me from time to time. Please get outdoors if you can, once you close the doors and barricade yourself in it is hard to get back out again. I cannot talk, I'm sitting here like the Flourishing Professor in Bunyan's
Pilgrim's Progress, but I am assured it does help!
Asperger's is interesting: certainly I don't feel the lack of conventional social structures (girlfriend, chums or mates, nights ''down the pub'') as I have essentially lived in libraries as long as I can remember, starting with my aunt's private collection (which sounds really rather grand, sadly all sold long ago to pay our debts!).
I suppose a normal mental and nervous structure is an elaborate quale that I cannot be made to understand or appreciate (quale is the singular of qualia, a quality as perceived by a person and incapable of certain transmission or of certain recognition in another: how does one explain to a blind man the colour red? A. and B. can agree that item C. is red, but it is impossible to determine if A. perceives the same colour as B.)
I have always felt drawn by the uncanny.
Some favourite quotes:
''I know always that I am an outsider; a stranger in this century and among those who are still men.'' -- HPL
''I am afraid of my visions'' -- HRG
''Thro' the ghoul-guarded gateways of slumber,
Past the wan-moon'd abysses of night,
I have liv'd o'er my lives without number,
I have sounded all things with my sight;
And I struggle and shriek ere the daybreak, being driven to madness with fright.
I have whirl'd with the earth at the dawning,
When the sky was a vaporous flame;
I have seen the dark universe yawning,
Where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.'' -- HPL
Unfortunately the sheer dosage of narcotics has reduced my brain to a treacly pace, it took a very long time to compose this. Thank you for your patience in reading this, I don't talk a great deal about it all and it is a bizarre release to write about it.
That is quite the read. Thank you for sharing. Seems to me you would do well if you found work in your obsessive tendencies and interests, but not many people really get such a luxury.
Thank you for your kind reply. Unfortunately as you say that would be a very great luxury and one I do not have! All good wishes with your Indian restaurant -- if you stick at it, you've done far more than I ever have managed.
A new anti-depressant, Lorazepam. I wonder if anyone has any experience of it.
Not on any at the moment, but I hope it works.
Quote from: Necronom IV on Jul 14, 2018, 02:24:01 PM
A new anti-depressant, Lorazepam. I wonder if anyone has any experience of it.
I work with this medication quite a bit. It is a benzodiazepine and functions mostly as a sedative. I have never seen it prescribed to treat depression – mostly just for extreme anxiety/agitation, alcohol detox, general sedation. Where I'm from it's not considered an anti-depressant. Are you thinking of trying this out specifically for short term or long term use? There are other antidepressants, without the same dependence risk factors, that also have sedative properties that you could ask your medical provider about...
Are you a psychiatrist?
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 18, 2018, 02:35:35 PM
Over last year it has become apparent that my 2 1/2 year old son is autistic. We had to wait the last 6 months for an evaluation and diagnosis in order to get help but when the call came to set the appointment they informed us that they wont take my insurance. There are only a couple places within a hundred miles that do evaluations and they also won't take our insurance. We're going to have to pay out of pocket and we are already barely making it. Ive been feeling depressed and guilty like im not a good father and that its all my fault. Even though i know logically i shouldnt feel that way. I feel exhausted from holding back tears everyday and feeling that way also makes me feel guilty.
That's terrible. My five year old had her diagnosis around 2-3 years old and all of our medical stuff, schooling, her speech therapist etc is all free at point of use. There's no reason you should feel like a bad parent. Honestly, it makes my blood boil that you're being let down like this. How have things been lately?
Well, an anxiety disorder already bothers me for 6 years.
When I started studying those fears were supressed by the stress caused by studying.
Actually this stress wasn't that bad. It's kind of a positive stress and I felt pretty good.
Today, the semster break just started a few days ago, this anxiety came back and I am frustrated because I totally forget about it and it reminds me of all the terrible moments I had back then.
Well, it was bound to happen eventually. Had an anxiety attack at work. Suddenly pressure built up in my chest and throat, brain got stuck in a loop that lead to a lot of errors all at once, and it compounded so bad that I actually almost burst into tears and ran out of the building.
I'm fine now. I have to get a lid on this. If I don't learn fast enough, I lose the job, but I'll just get another one. I can't give up. Only way I'll learn is to man the f**k up and be better.
Man, playing through God of War between shifts really did something for me. "Don't be sorry, be better"
Quote from: Sabby on Aug 14, 2018, 03:28:32 AM
I'm fine now. I have to get a lid on this. If I don't learn fast enough, I lose the job, but I'll just get another one. I can't give up. Only way I'll learn is to man the f**k up and be better.
Man, playing through God of War between shifts really did something for me. "Don't be sorry, be better"
You are into a great mindset.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Aug 14, 2018, 03:35:26 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Aug 14, 2018, 03:28:32 AM
I'm fine now. I have to get a lid on this. If I don't learn fast enough, I lose the job, but I'll just get another one. I can't give up. Only way I'll learn is to man the f**k up and be better.
Man, playing through God of War between shifts really did something for me. "Don't be sorry, be better"
You are into a great mindset.
(https://cdn.europosters.eu/image/750/plastic-frame-god-of-war-don-t-be-sorry-i56671.jpg)
I'm actually considering hanging something like this on my wall.
Quote from: Sabby on Aug 14, 2018, 07:06:34 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Aug 14, 2018, 03:35:26 AM
Quote from: Sabby on Aug 14, 2018, 03:28:32 AM
I'm fine now. I have to get a lid on this. If I don't learn fast enough, I lose the job, but I'll just get another one. I can't give up. Only way I'll learn is to man the f**k up and be better.
Man, playing through God of War between shifts really did something for me. "Don't be sorry, be better"
You are into a great mindset.
https://cdn.europosters.eu/image/750/plastic-frame-god-of-war-don-t-be-sorry-i56671.jpg
I'm actually considering hanging something like this on my wall.
8) Nice.
I just started classes for my (hopefully) last year of college. Jesus the workload this round is f**king insane, one professor is giving us so much f**king busy work I don't know how he expects us to write our research papers. Then there's the rest of my classes I have to keep up with. I keep feeling like I'm not gonna make it.
Quote from: Deathbearer on Aug 21, 2018, 02:45:57 AM
I keep feeling like I'm not gonna make it.
It's just a feeling. Don't make it your reality.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Aug 21, 2018, 03:14:08 AM
Quote from: Deathbearer on Aug 21, 2018, 02:45:57 AM
I keep feeling like I'm not gonna make it.
It's just a feeling. Don't make it your reality.
I think I just got a bit overwhelmed with everything. I'm still a bit worried, but you're right. If I pace myself I'll be okay.
Been barely making through the past 3 years at uni, and I know with confidence I can pull off my final year. But I still have concentration problems and my anxiety's been getting a hold of me lately. No panic attacks, thank goodness, it's very manageable, in fact, but it's distracting to say the least.
Just finally got diagnosed as Bipolar 2 Friday. Now they've got me on an anti psychotic because of the frequent mixed states that I kept going thru.
For two years, I suffer from panic attacks, anxiety and depression. I was a loser in school, I had no friends, I had problems with social adaptation. Every year my condition became worse, I tried to break free from this mortal body 2 years ago and failed. Since then, I have panic attacks. At first, I thought that I had heart problems and was afraid to die of a heart attack. Because of these fears, my anxiety intensified. Later, I learned that my heart is healthy, but panic attacks still bother me. Sleep does not restore my energy, it is hard for me to study at university. I cry almost every day, even good things and events make me sad. I've got no friends but I have internet. This is enough to survive in this cruel world. What about study and social success? I don't care, I'm too tired. So it goes. Thanks for attention. If you are reading this, I hope that you are doing well, and not like me. (Thanks to google translator!)
Oh God, where to start? I have severe depression and anxiety that has led to me trying to numb the pain through food, buying (40k models, novels, comics mostly), drinking (for a short period of my life, I've never really been an alcoholic and my liver issues led to me to quitting entirely), weed (this one was difficult to stop), pills, as well as a very persistent addiction that I still have not quit yet. I wouldn't be surprised if I was somewhat bi-polar as there have been times when I've felt extreme happiness for no reason, only for it to come crashing down sometimes only a few minutes or even seconds later. I procrastinate horribly and spend too much time looking at dumb crap online, though I am starting to eat a little healthier and am developing more of a social life. My sleep schedule can often be erratic, and it has been very difficult for me to fix this issue. Politics is horrible for me and my state of mind, but I'm somewhat addicted to following it, and I have a bad tendency of looking up stuff from points of view that make me feel mad and sad in order to get some kind of righteousness rush. I work to treat people well generally face to face, but in my head, I love mocking people and feeling superior to make myself feel better, and that's been very difficult for me to quit. Through all of this, I want to break down and cry sometimes to release the emotions but I've numbed myself in a number of ways and have trained myself not to cry for fear of looking like some kind of wimp, and I'm afraid that if I start crying, I'll never stop. I try to put on a no-nonsense, voice-of-reason, semi-tough guy facade, but that's just it, a facade to hide all of my insecurities. My doctor says that I should severely decrease my sodium levels and what happens? I load up on salty food that causes my feet and legs to swell up, causing pain to my toes. To some extent, I'm addicted to suicidal thoughts, as many times I've thought "Hey, if things get too tough for me, I can just end it and be done with it" or "You know what, I think I'll go commit suicide so I don't have to deal with the thoughts swimming through my brain." I haven't made any plans or really tried to attempt it, but it's always in the background, like the worst best friend ever that I just can't quit.
Sorry for long rant, but I just had to get it off my chest.
Could i ask you all a question: are there any psychological disorders caused by Alien / Predator movies?
Yes.
Yes it is.
I'm really sorry to hear that, Old One.
Thank you, I appreciate the sentiment.
That is seriously heavy news. I'm so so sorry to hear about your loss. We're all here to lend a listening ear if you feel comfortable with it. Please don't feel reluctant to reach out to anyone for support (unless you feel like handling things on your own, which is fine too).
Thank you genuinely, I'll consider it.
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 26, 2019, 11:12:44 AM
Yes.
Yes it is.
I'm deeply sorry to hear that. My condolences to you and your friend's family. I hope it wasn't painful or prolonged. If you need to talk about it, I'm sure any of us in the community would lend an ear. :(
Thank you, I just don't particularly want to talk about it, not rationally, but I just needed to vent. Let my current headspace be known so any unsavoury mannerisms aren't mistaken for something else.
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 26, 2019, 12:40:05 PM
Thank you, I just don't particularly want to talk about it, not rationally, but I just needed to vent. Let my current headspace be known so any unsavoury mannerisms aren't mistaken for something else.
Again, the offer is always there. Be it venting or anything else to help. I would extend that offer to anyone.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 26, 2019, 06:31:47 AM
Could i ask you all a question: are there any psychological disorders caused by Alien / Predator movies?
Caused? lol. Unless someone uses the purchasing/reading/fixating as an element of OCPD/OCD, a facet of mania, or a maladaptive coping mechanism - like a good old fashion escape (i.e. maladaptive daydreaming.)
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 26, 2019, 07:15:42 AM
A friend died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkvnpHFajt0
I'm so sorry Old One...
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 26, 2019, 07:15:42 AM
A friend died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkvnpHFajt0
There are some people in this world that we simply can't fathom existence without.
We can only hope that they led a fulfilling life, knew happiness, and truly understood the extent of our love for them.
Both you and the family of the deceased will remain in my thoughts and prayers. I will not forget.
I am truly sorry for your loss.
Pretty much broke down after watching this video. I don't know what's keeping me from getting diagnosed at this point.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 09, 2014, 08:51:44 PMAnd so I fade off into the sunset
with only one question on my mind:
Spoiler
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I've been misdiagnosed by a few doctors before I was finally diagnosed with depression, anxiety, and social isolation. They (the old doctors) thought it was nothing - that I was making it up.
Doctors should take mental health seriously.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on May 01, 2019, 07:31:45 PM
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Oct 09, 2014, 08:51:44 PMAnd so I fade off into the sunset
with only one question on my mind:
Spoiler
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bb0k9HgQxc
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I suspect this poster to be a crazy person.
I'm just, really ready to go.
I really hope that's not in a drastic sense .
Quote from: The Old One on May 13, 2019, 09:24:52 AM
I'm just, really ready to go.
Don't you give me that nonsense gurl
Apologies, I tried to kill myself everyone.
But then somebody said the PredAlien should have dreadlocks...
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HarmlessSilentCollardlizard-max-1mb.gif)
-and I came back from death, because that shit is not okay.
Gallows humor or gallows fact?
Gallows fact.
Hmmm.
That's not on, Old One. Glad you didn't f**king succeed. We'd have been lacking the dry British humor around here. It's mostly Aussie otherwise.
*Coarse Irish humor.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 15, 2019, 07:19:17 AM
We'd have been lacking the dry British humor around here. It's mostly Aussie otherwise.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Glad to have you with us, Old.
Eh.
Spoiler
Thank you though.
I appreciate it.
I didn't realize saying the PredAlien should have dreads could be so helpful!
I will continue to do so! :D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 15, 2019, 01:34:17 PM
I didn't realize saying the PredAlien should have dreads could be so helpful!
I will continue to do so! :D
We're saving lost souls here, brother.
I feel real lonely and helpless lately :-[
Quote from: The Old One on May 14, 2019, 07:36:15 PM
Apologies, I tried to kill myself everyone.
But then somebody said the PredAlien should have dreadlocks...
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HarmlessSilentCollardlizard-max-1mb.gif
-and I came back from death, because that shit is not okay.
Never deprive this world of the wonderful person you are. It's much more beautiful and interesting with you in it. And besides, without you I'd have to defend Alien 3 on my own, and the egg thread would blossom.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 15, 2019, 01:34:17 PM
I didn't realize saying the PredAlien should have dreads could be so helpful!
I will continue to do so! :D
Spreading the gospel according to Strauss.
Quote from: LastSurvivor92 on May 19, 2019, 04:48:17 AM
I feel real lonely and helpless lately :-[
And your avp family is here with you.
(https://headtalker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Helping-hands.jpg)
We got you brother.
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Quote from: Huggs on May 19, 2019, 07:58:46 AM
Quote from: The Old One on May 14, 2019, 07:36:15 PM
Apologies, I tried to kill myself everyone.
But then somebody said the PredAlien should have dreadlocks...
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HarmlessSilentCollardlizard-max-1mb.gif
-and I came back from death, because that shit is not okay.
Never deprive this world of the wonderful person you are. It's much more beautiful and interesting with you in it. And besides, without you I'd have to defend Alien 3 on my own, and the egg thread would blossom.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 15, 2019, 01:34:17 PM
I didn't realize saying the PredAlien should have dreads could be so helpful!
I will continue to do so! :D
Spreading the gospel according to Strauss.
Quote from: LastSurvivor92 on May 19, 2019, 04:48:17 AM
I feel real lonely and helpless lately :-[
And your avp family is here with you.
(https://headtalker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Helping-hands.jpg)
We got you brother.
(https://www.greenbiz.com/sites/default/files/styles/panopoly_image_full/public/images/articles/featured/helpinghand.jpg?itok=-0X-dHFm)
Thanks bro :)
Really appreciate it.
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Yet another set of raw deals and bad luck from the universe. My condition (life-long depression and severe anxiety) makes things hard at the best of times, but when it's all f**ked up too it's just... tiresome. I'm tired. I need a break from all the nonsense - but apparently I'm not allowed one.
Homies, I hope those of you that struggle with these things are doing better and I am shooting you with positive brain energies.
Oh behalf of all of us, thank you.
I'm doing a lot better now than I was when I first posted this. I lost 50 pounds a couple years ago, started working out and getting a trainer for myself. I stopped taking all my anti-depressants like my Zoloft etc. My doctor told me the Zoloft was actually agitating my mood disorder. I also have a little bit of Aspergers (ASD) I'm High Functioning and light on the spectrum. I smoke weed and as a result I would smoke excessively to cope with the irritability. I now only take one small drug called Oxcarbazepine (Trileptal) a mood stabilizer that helps with some of the irritability symptoms of my Aspergers. Doing better now and glad I went back and talked to my doctors about the concerning weight gain and lose of libido which was linked highly to a degree to the 200mg of Zoloft.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 22, 2019, 08:11:34 PM
Yet another set of raw deals and bad luck from the universe. My condition (life-long depression and severe anxiety) makes things hard at the best of times, but when it's all f**ked up too it's just... tiresome. I'm tired. I need a break from all the nonsense - but apparently I'm not allowed one.
How come? Why are you not allowed some time off?
Quote from: LastSurvivor92 on Jun 18, 2019, 04:35:48 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 22, 2019, 08:11:34 PM
Yet another set of raw deals and bad luck from the universe. My condition (life-long depression and severe anxiety) makes things hard at the best of times, but when it's all f**ked up too it's just... tiresome. I'm tired. I need a break from all the nonsense - but apparently I'm not allowed one.
How come? Why are you not allowed some time off?
Life literally doesn't give me time off. I'll get through one thing that's totally out of my control (ie; injured family member i have to look after), only for the next thing to happen immediately.
Quote from: LastSurvivor92 on Apr 12, 2014, 08:41:08 AM
Anyone have any of these or suffer from them? Take any medications for them? I take 200 mg of Zoloft every day for depression and anxiety. I was also recently just diagnosed with Cyclothymic disorder which is a mood disorder in which you will feel deep depression for a couple of hours and than extreme highs or mania for a couple hours and that fluctuates constantly up and down, think of a really fast version of being bipolar but just not as bad. When your Bipolar you suffer long, long spells of depression and than long spells of mania so Cyclothymic disorder is not as bad but if you don't treat it with medication it can worsen into Bipolar disorder. Anyone else struggle with day to day depression, aniexty, social phobias or mood disorders, schizophrenia etc? I would be really happy to hear other peoples stories and struggles :) This a group discussion.
I'm on 75m of Zoloft daily and Vistaril for my Anxiety which is take as needed. The Zoloft has helped me lot tbh, i don't feel as crapp anymore, as i used to have daily bouts of feeling like shitty.
I don't use anything myself.
Always gave me a "grey" feeling. :-\
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Sep 02, 2019, 10:20:22 PM
I don't use anything myself.
Always gave me a "grey" feeling. :-\
Yeah, just blurs me up too, personally. I'd rather feel bad frequently than nothing at all ever.
Absolutely, even if the unfortunate feeling is nearly constant, I'd rather know.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Sep 02, 2019, 10:20:22 PM
I don't use anything myself.
Always gave me a "grey" feeling. :-\
It doesn't make me not feel anything though taking something for it, accepting you've got problems is, well in my opinion first step of fixing it. I refused to take anything for the longest time because i felt that was a sign of weakness. But if anything its is true strength.
It's different for everyone. I don't think either myself or FI are in denial about our mood issues, it's just that after trying (in my case multiple) medications, we've both made the decision that what we've tried was worse than the problem it was supposedly treating, and that the trial and error of easing onto, giving a fair shot to, then easing off yet another treatment is an unbearable cycle.
Just here to report some success. Found an unopened and expired bottle of vitamin d but it is clearly potent enough still to do good. 5000IU.
What I was not expecting was for it to knock out my chronic suicidal ideation. I'm now twice the age I was when I last felt this good.
I haven't had my panic disorder flare up this year or the last, too. As for psych meds, Zoloft and Haldol proved to have side effects too severe to continue, but I also believe I was never going to need to use them permanently (a time came for each when I felt I was not improving further, but also, not going to regress back to needing them).
Anyone else take Lexapro?
Under a different name. Didn't work well at all for me, but I know someone who had good results so eh.
It works for me, but it takes at least 14 days to get the full benefits. I do like the side effect of vivid dreaming. Makes bed time more exciting. I'm on 10 mg.
Does it affect libido ?
Quote from: Samhain13 on Nov 04, 2020, 09:54:28 PM
Does it affect libido ?
Yes but I think all anti-depressants do that because they stimulate certain serotonin receptors that effect your libido.
Yeah that was the thing that made me quit taking that stuff last year. Things went better after I stopped so no problem. Unfortunally my anxiety skyrocketed this year, that shit brings depression for me as well so...
I never heard about the one you mentioned so wondered if it could be different. You really mean all of them? No one made a type that doesn't have that side effect yet?
Lexapro (escitalopram) is said to be the most problematic when it comes to your sex drive. I've been on it for over 3 weeks and did experience less desires, but I lasted longer. Anti depressants that are part of SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) will have that effect. You can try looking into a drug called bupropion, I hear it has less effect on your libido.
I see thanks.
Quote from: Gr33n M4n on Nov 04, 2020, 10:37:05 PM
but I lasted longer
Just watch out it doesn't become near total inability to finish, happened to me while on escitalopram and persisted for months afterwards. Arousal/desire wasn't an issue, I just couldn't nut 9 out of 10 times. A solid year of blueballs tbh.
That was part of my issue last year too.
You have anxiety even with all the pumping you do?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 04, 2020, 11:52:19 PM
You have anxiety even with all the pumping you do?
What kind of pumping are we talking about ;D
Don't fall for the bait.
But in my case its all kinds.
Day and night. It's terrific.
I have nightmares of inpatient stays and of being on crippling meds. The system has hurt far more than it has helped, and I know I would be better off it either didn't exist or was never a part of my life. I'm currently in a nightmarish situation in which I was greatly wronged, and can't even talk about it to anyone due to legalities that are out of my hands.
Lexapro helps me with anxiety and negative thoughts. But sometimes I feel....nothing. It's like my mind is clouded, or somewhere else.
Nothingness is also an issue for me. After months of SSRI I forgot what it's like to possess an emotional range at all. After stopping, I felt like how Christian Bale looked in Equilibrium. Both profound and upsetting.
Is it better to feel some pain than nothing at all?
As long as there is no possibility of hell (infinite suffering) I say it is better to exist than not to. Doesn't mean the whole thing is gonna run flawlessly or even be comprehensible, though.
Does anxiety/depression affect your sleep? My Dr got me on Melatonin. It's natural and your brain produces it to tell you that it's time to sleep.
Melatonin worked good for only a short while. Even if I take it months or years after not having any, it's not like the first few months on it. I'm an insomniac but anxiety/depression doesn't really make it worse, so there's that.
I've only been on it for a short while. It does help, but I'm a night owl. I feel more relaxed in the shroud of night.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Nov 07, 2020, 04:14:43 AM
Melatonin worked good for only a short while. Even if I take it months or years after not having any, it's not like the first few months on it. I'm an insomniac but anxiety/depression doesn't really make it worse, so there's that.
Have you tried Valerian for anxiety? To help you sleep take two, then take a Melatonin about 20 minutes later. Hope this helps you :)
I take melatonin for about a week, about twice a year. Seems to be enough to balance my sleep out for that period.
I hate when you feel like you're not in control of your own destiny. Like everything is predetermined and you have to live with it.
Quote from: Gr33n M4n on Nov 10, 2020, 07:20:23 PM
I hate when you feel like you're not in control of your own destiny. Like everything is predetermined and you have to live with it.
Or when you have a series of profound and drawn out bad luck and don't feel it's going to go away.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Nov 10, 2020, 01:09:43 PM
Have you tried Valerian for anxiety? To help you sleep take two, then take a Melatonin about 20 minutes later. Hope this helps you :)
I have not. The melatonin I took that worked had some kind of stress relief extra in it that worked good, but the melatonin I find now is only melatonin and too big a dose, and does not work at all for me.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Nov 11, 2020, 10:43:39 PM
Quote from: Gr33n M4n on Nov 10, 2020, 07:20:23 PM
I hate when you feel like you're not in control of your own destiny. Like everything is predetermined and you have to live with it.
Or when you have a series of profound and drawn out bad luck and don't feel it's going to go away.
Hahahaha only for the last 14 years.
But seriously.
It seriously is a thing where the whole universe just takes a dump on you. At this point, a Gamma ray burst from the cosmos, or a small meteorite to the head, might be a kindness.
Depression itself can bring on bad luck.
Quote from: Gr33n M4n on Nov 11, 2020, 11:16:36 PM
Depression itself can bring on bad luck.
Or at least make it feel that way while encouraging poor choices.
Do you think your birth sign has anything to do with it?
Quote from: Gr33n M4n on Nov 11, 2020, 11:19:17 PM
Do you think your birth sign has anything to do with it?
If i did, it'd be the chinese zodiac, not the western one. But i do not.
I'm your stereotypical Aquarius. I do feel like the time of year you're born in effects things like personality and stuff.
Quote from: Gr33n M4n on Nov 13, 2020, 12:40:02 AM
I do feel like the time of year you're born in effects things like personality and stuff.
I think there might be a case to be made for a mild version of this, with disappointingly mundane explanations about nutrition and light levels during pregnancy etc, but it's observably not a hard and fast set of rules and certainly has nothing to do with stars on the other side of the galaxy.
And for the record, I prefer the Chinese zodiac because it accuses me of being a wise and rugged earth dragon, rather than a weepy and over-sensitive crab. If i have to pick...
Lexapro really increases the effects of alcohol.
Some meds really increase the severity of what they allegedly treat. >:(
Honorable mention goes to being put on something that corresponds to problems you don't even have. Yes, that is a real phenomenon.
Lately meditating a lot has been helping me with anxiety. Its always some thoughts in my head that f**k it over, as soon as I make them go away, and empty everything inside it seems take the anxiety with it. But seems like a process I need keep on repeating as it tends to come back if I let my mind go off with the thoughs.
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 11, 2020, 11:19:17 PM
Do you think your birth sign has anything to do with it?
All the last women I met believed that shit and asked me mine like it meant something. And since supposely I fit my sign (scorpio)'s "traits" it was tiring trying to convince them it was hard to believe that stuff was real.
I hate feeling like a failure. And I fear that I'll become an alcoholic.
Come mid 20s, you do not care what people think. It's wonderful. Literally a childhood/early life affliction.
Some people don't seem to go through that.
Then play to our strengths.
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 23, 2020, 11:45:48 PM
Lexapro really increases the effects of alcohol.
I understood that it is a bad idea to drink alcohol when you are taking psychiatric medications.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 24, 2020, 02:59:37 AM
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 23, 2020, 11:45:48 PM
Lexapro really increases the effects of alcohol.
I understood that it is a bad idea to drink alcohol when you are taking psychiatric medications.
It certainly did me no favors.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 24, 2020, 03:10:11 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 24, 2020, 02:59:37 AM
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 23, 2020, 11:45:48 PM
Lexapro really increases the effects of alcohol.
I understood that it is a bad idea to drink alcohol when you are taking psychiatric medications.
It certainly did me no favors.
I used to take antidepressants, and my doctor and family put a lot of emphasis on it.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 24, 2020, 02:59:37 AM
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 23, 2020, 11:45:48 PM
Lexapro really increases the effects of alcohol.
I understood that it is a bad idea to drink alcohol when you are taking psychiatric medications.
True. That's why I get buzzed after only two beers.
I have no real friends and barely have a social life. I don't have social anxiety, but I prefer to be alone. But sometimes I hate being alone. I had this girl hit on me once and I just let her go because of it. My parents are worried and feel sorry for me because they want better for me.
It's okay to be an introvert. Extroverts have a hard time understanding us though.
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 28, 2020, 07:04:09 AM
I have no real friends and barely have a social life. I don't have social anxiety, but I prefer to be alone. But sometimes I hate being alone. I had this girl hit on me once and I just let her go because of it. My parents are worried and feel sorry for me because they want better for me.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2020, 07:23:49 AM
It's okay to be an introvert. Extroverts have a hard time understanding us though.
As an introvert, let me tell you that there's nothing wrong with that shit, but getting a social hobby you can engage with on your own terms (ie; just once a month or so, or only on days you feel like it) will also do you a world of good.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2020, 07:23:49 AM
It's okay to be an introvert. Extroverts have a hard time understanding us though.
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I'm having serious concerns about my ability to manage chronic pain and my future. If I lose the ability to walk long enough to help with stress, I will have to figure something out.
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 28, 2020, 07:04:09 AM
I have no real friends and barely have a social life.
I'm kind of like that too.
I have gotten really antisocial since my teens but yet I still manage to be quite social and get along with people easily when I have to go out, but most relationships don't seem to evolve much to the point I see them in the daily basis, I got friends I can count on, but we barely see each other now.
We talk most of the time online, last time we saw each other was on my birthday last month, not sure if we will see each other this year again.
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 28, 2020, 07:04:09 AM
I don't have social anxiety, but I prefer to be alone. But sometimes I hate being alone.
Oh I know how that's like.
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 28, 2020, 07:04:09 AM
I had this girl hit on me once and I just let her go because of it.
You might regret later on missing those opportunities.
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 28, 2020, 07:04:09 AM
My parents are worried and feel sorry for me because they want better for me.
Parents can only do so much. Its more about what you can and want to do.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 28, 2020, 07:23:49 AM
It's okay to be an introvert. Extroverts have a hard time understanding us though.
Its like we are aliens. Its disappointing how people have such trouble to understand those that enjoy different things than them. They seems to really believe that everyone can only be happy by being like them, such arrogance. Stuff like that only pushes introvert away from extroverts, gets in the away of finding a balance between.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 28, 2020, 09:34:07 AM
As an introvert, let me tell you that there's nothing wrong with that shit, but getting a social hobby you can engage with on your own terms (ie; just once a month or so, or only on days you feel like it) will also do you a world of good.
Yeah this, extreme is bad, finding a good balance for yourself will do good.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 04, 2020, 01:54:54 AMIts like we are aliens. Its disappointing how people have such trouble to understand those that enjoy different things than them. They seems to really believe that everyone can only be happy by being like them, such arrogance. Stuff like that only pushes introvert away from extroverts, gets in the away of finding a balance between.
The best way to describe it. I've come to think that I was left by a UFO, and I was raised by humans! :laugh:
But leaving jokes aside, I know the arrogance you're talking about. I come from a family of extroverts! my mother can varely understand me in the best way she can. My mother's husband once told me
"maybe you should stop being ... err ... you know ... so unique in order to interact better with people". One of my college classmates told me
"I don't know, it's hard to understand whatever is on your mind, but I do my best". Of course he was the type of person who even talks to plants. In fact, he had a hard time during quarantine, because he loves to socialize all the time.
People have thought that I am autistic, drug addict, satanic, crazy, strange, bitter, etc 😂
Edit: I've missed many romantic opportunities due to my introverted personality :'(
The advantage to being an introvert is that we're used to being quarantined and socially distancing :D
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 04, 2020, 03:13:58 AM
Edit: I've missed many romantic opportunities due to my introverted personality :'(
I'm so introverted I literally don't notice when I'm being hit on.
I can only tolerate other people in a social setting if I drink myself stupid. The problem then becomes my complete loss of inhibitions and tendency to give voice to my opinions of them.
Sometimes they think I'm kidding and just laugh it off.
Now that I don't drink, I don't socialize anymore.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 05, 2020, 08:17:49 AM
I can only tolerate other people in a social setting if I drink myself stupid. The problem then becomes my complete loss of inhibitions and tendency to give voice to my opinions of them.
Sometimes they think I'm kidding and just laugh it off.
Now that I don't drink, I don't socialize anymore.
The struggle is real.
I'm also the child of a messy divorce. I never wanted that for myself. Self-sabotage is an excellent defense mechanism. Like acid for blood.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 05, 2020, 08:30:15 AM
I'm also the child of a messy divorce. I never wanted that for myself. Self-sabotage is an excellent defense mechanism. Like acid for blood.
Mostly stable and positive home life but shit everything else, for me. Same results.
At least you have good pies.
Yeah they're pretty great ngl.
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 04, 2020, 03:13:58 AM
Edit: I've missed many romantic opportunities due to my introverted personality :'(
I'm so introverted I literally don't notice when I'm being hit on.
Long time ago, a popular girl had a crush on me. It was not my personal impression, since she made it clear to me as crystal. But I used to be very insecure. I'm still something like that, but I grew up and life has made me more confident than in the past. She was the opposite of me: sociable, confident, popular, she even used to hang out with a guy who bullied me.
She tried to integrate me into her group. But I've always been a nerd and she used to hang out with...let's say... people with more mainstream hobbies (sports, cars, parties, trendy stuff). Back then I felt like someone inferior, like I was not worthy of her, no matter how foolish it may sounds. I never had the courage to be her boyfriend.
There were other similar occasions. Remakes as I like to call them :laugh:
But that was one of the few times where I reciprocated the feeling.
Spoiler
Today, I am a somewhat bisexual young man, who sometimes fantasizes about being a woman.
Although I don't have love affairs with anyone. I am very puritan :laugh:
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 05, 2020, 08:30:15 AM
I'm also the child of a messy divorce. I never wanted that for myself. Self-sabotage is an excellent defense mechanism. Like acid for blood.
It was a shity experience for me. It took me years to heal the wounds.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 05, 2020, 07:04:18 PMLong time ago, a popular girl had a crush on me. It was not my personal impression, since she made it clear to me as crystal. But I used to be very insecure. I'm still something like that, but I grew up and life has made me more confident than in the past.
Ain't that a bitch? Whenever that happened to me, the self-loathing kicked into high gear and I started wondering what the hell was wrong with
them that they could be interested in me. The usual self-sabotage ensued from that...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 05, 2020, 07:46:46 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 05, 2020, 07:04:18 PMLong time ago, a popular girl had a crush on me. It was not my personal impression, since she made it clear to me as crystal. But I used to be very insecure. I'm still something like that, but I grew up and life has made me more confident than in the past.
Ain't that a bitch? Whenever that happened to me, the self-loathing kicked into high gear and I started wondering what the hell was wrong with them that they could be interested in me. The usual self-sabotage ensued from that...
Yes, you said it; self-sabotage. Capable of ruining love relationships, friendship and even jobs. I've worked on that and I've improved.
However, I wonder if that girl would have accepted me as I am or she had only been attracted superficially to me, in order to change my personality to make me fit into her circles. I will never know. Although when it comes to get laid, I guess it doesn't matter the latter :laugh:
I suffer from (and am medicated for) clinical depression.
I got let go from my job yesterday.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Edit-- to clarify, I wasn't let go BECAUSE of my depression, I'm just using that as context for how you can imagine I'm feeling right now.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 05, 2020, 08:52:07 PM
Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Wait! You're a TED speaker?
No, but I play one on TV
What line of work?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 06, 2020, 05:26:23 AM
What line of work?
Accounting. I'm not too concerned about finding a new job but losing my job still sucks.
I'm really struggling at the moment, emotionally, mentally... I don't really talk about this to anyone but its gotten to a point where I feel I really need to talk to someone. I used to suffer with it on and off during my early 20's but over the last few years I feel like its just become a lot more intense, this feeling of hopelessness... just questioning my existence, belonging. I can go weeks feeling ok but times like now where I'm just really low and I can't describe what triggers it. I shouldn't feel like this but just do... I've always come close to messaging on this forum, in this topic, but always stop.
Seek help via counselling or a prescription if possible.
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Dec 23, 2020, 08:03:12 PM
I'm really struggling at the moment, emotionally, mentally... I don't really talk about this to anyone but its gotten to a point where I feel I really need to talk to someone. I used to suffer with it on and off during my early 20's but over the last few years I feel like its just become a lot more intense, this feeling of hopelessness... just questioning my existence, belonging. I can go weeks feeling ok but times like now where I'm just really low and I can't describe what triggers it. I shouldn't feel like this but just do... I've always come close to messaging on this forum, in this topic, but always stop.
Because of the pandemic, this may be your best option for counseling at the moment.
https://www.betterhelp.com/ (https://www.betterhelp.com/)
Be well.
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Dec 23, 2020, 08:03:12 PM
I'm really struggling at the moment, emotionally, mentally... I don't really talk about this to anyone but its gotten to a point where I feel I really need to talk to someone. I used to suffer with it on and off during my early 20's but over the last few years I feel like its just become a lot more intense, this feeling of hopelessness... just questioning my existence, belonging. I can go weeks feeling ok but times like now where I'm just really low and I can't describe what triggers it. I shouldn't feel like this but just do... I've always come close to messaging on this forum, in this topic, but always stop.
I've dealt with stuff like that on and off since I was a teen and every day I wonder about how did things turn out this way? Why did it ever come to this? What triggered our mind to lose itself like that? Its like we are slaves of those negative thoughts that take away our freedom to feel better. What kind of person would want to keep going if they knew they were going to end up in a hell like this?
But most people are pushed by something, to keep marching right into hell, usually that something isn't of our own will. Their situation or others forces them to do it. But the kind of hell seen by people who push themselves into it is different. They can also see something beyond that hell. Maybe it's hope. Maybe it's yet another hell.
The only people who do known are the ones who keep moving forward.
It is never easy.
I slept all day, missed my appointment and, said something truly awful. Loathe myself so much
It is okay, now past me, future me recovered.
I'm not sure my medications are right.
In what regard exactly?
Been depressed, mood swings, occasionally suicidal. Gonna call the doctor in the morning.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Feb 04, 2021, 04:17:54 AM
Been depressed, mood swings, occasionally suicidal. Gonna call the doctor in the morning.
I hope they can help you soon, this is scary. Remember that you have friends here.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Feb 04, 2021, 04:17:54 AM
Been depressed, mood swings, occasionally suicidal. Gonna call the doctor in the morning.
I know that place you're in if you want to talk though I'm here.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Feb 04, 2021, 04:17:54 AM
Been depressed, mood swings, occasionally suicidal. Gonna call the doctor in the morning.
Oh, that looks familiar. So far I've found zero meds that work for me though (and some have had years long side effects that remained or still remain long after stopping), so I just live with it the bad feels.
Yeah that's unacceptable for me
Understandable. It's pretty hellish.
Found out yesterday that my Xanax gravy train is all used up. Doctor says she can't prescribe it to me anymore due to some change in the law.
Now I have three months to wean off of it.
Oosh. Sorry to hear that.
The good news is that I never abused it so I only took 1mg a night before bed. She's going to prescribe me .5mg for the next three months and then nothing, but I read that reducing my dose by half every two weeks should do the trick. I think I can handle that, but we'll see.
This is probably for the best anyway.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 04, 2021, 09:23:12 PM
Understandable. It's pretty hellish.
It is not good.
But you nearly always come out of it wondering why you felt that way in the first place, even though it's bad, it's not
so bad.
The sparks can be worth it.
My Xanax weaning seems to be going okay, but I'm feeling increased anxiety in the evenings before bed. Especially when I've had a stressful workday.
I ordered some CBD oil to see if that will help.
Hope it does. Heard a lot of good stuff about it
Try taking some magnesium before bed, Trouble. Helps one relax wonderfully after a hectic day or after doing sport. Also has anti-anxiety properties.
You can take it in tablet form (which takes a while to kick in) or as a topical oil spray (faster, but effect doesn't seem to last as long).
Oddly enough, I learned about taking magnesium from an addict, to stop teeth grinding. Also works the same pathways for several anxiety symptoms though it seems.
This thread:
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Seriously though, I have often mood changes without particularly apparent reasons. Or to be more precise, there's no real telling what can influence it - it can be weather, amount of work I've managed to do throughout a day, tasty meal or even post at AvPGalaxy. It goes from me felling hopeless, lost, alone, tired to happy, playful, euphoric and back pretty quickly. It can be really exhausting at times
I don't think magnesium supplements are comparable to psychoactive medications, but I take your point.
I always resist posting something like this because it makes me look incapable of taking care of myself, both in restraint and well-being, but here it goes.
I used to enjoy the challenge of living, of the simple stuff, but even during that I had an idea of myself of the person I wanted to be.
But I don't even want to reach anymore, for that, I just want to not be anything at all anymore.
Got my CBD oil today and took my first dose. So far I feel pretty good.
I heard it works.
I suffered from depression when I was 19, and it was a tough time. Even though I consulted a doctor and received treatment, getting back into my regular life was difficult. Moreover, suicidal thoughts occurred to me more often, so I began to rethink my life and my place in this world. If you also think that your life has no sense, look around. Look at what happens around you: people will soon get to Mars, explore other planets in our universe, invent electric cars, treat diseases, etc. You have to live and see it all.
Tried to kill myself a few months ago, again. Same method, except I was careful so even less chance of failure. Avoided the looney bin this time. The Tylenol might have damaged my organs, but I seem healthy.
I've been getting anxiety attacks for no reason the past few weeks. Pretending to puke oddly enough makes them go away.
Not doing great myself either recently.
My late friend, the Director Ken Russell, always said, "Depression is a natural reaction to a chaotic world".
Vincent Van Gogh said, "Normality is a paved road. It's comfortable to walk but no flowers grow on it".
Some mindfulness music videos on my website.
Take care, guys. And remember, you don't get today back. There is always light!
I'm away for a few months. Probably till the Autumn. Will check back in then.
My Very Best Wishes,
Jon Sorensen
www.jonsorensencreative.com (http://www.jonsorensencreative.com)
Quote from: Phobos on Nov 07, 2020, 04:11:20 AM
My Dr got me on Melatonin. It's natural and your brain produces it to tell you that it's time to sleep.
Got 5mg stuff with no additives. Working good for sleep and noticing my health and feelings of youthfulness coming back. I need one night without it every two weeks or so to reset, or I feel weird.
Additives for stress relief were in the other 3mg ones I've tried, and this made me feel weird almost all the time and I did not recover quickly from that.
Rough day.
I feel for anyone with anxiety/depression/autism. Hugs to you all.
Thank you
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-new-home/202106/review-study-finds-zinc-helps-depression
I remember fondly a time I was randomly gifted zinc supplements. Saddened when I ran out.
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This stuff will make you a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus Saturn V rocket, just like me.
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Hi, hope everyone here is okay. I understand how hard things can be. I'm going through a tough period right now myself. Take care, folks.
So today I just reached a point where I feel like I can take it anymore, I'd do anything to make this feeling stop, I know nobody's entitled to anything but I used to be a happy person... I am so tired and sad nearly all the time... So much that I feel like that's my only reality.
And I know exactly how cliché this sounds, I have gone through all the various systems, different styles of therapy and nothing works even over the course of several years of committment.
Why post about it here exactly? Because nobody's going to roll their eyes at me here. I just want to be happy enough that life feels worth living. Because I know it can be but I haven't felt that for a very long time.
Where's [cancerblack] when you need him ?
Hope you get better soon
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 08, 2022, 03:35:00 PM
I am so tired and sad nearly all the time... So much that I feel like that's my only reality.
And I know exactly how cliché this sounds, I have gone through all the various systems, different styles of therapy and nothing works even over the course of several years of committment.
Your problem could be physiological rather than psychological. Have you had your vitamin D levels tested yet? Seeing that it's actually a hormone, you'd be surprised at how often vitamin D deficiency is the culprit in depression and physical fatigue cases.
I'll give that a look then.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 08, 2022, 03:35:00 PM
So today I just reached a point where I feel like I can take it anymore, I'd do anything to make this feeling stop, I know nobody's entitled to anything but I used to be a happy person... I am so tired and sad nearly all the time... So much that I feel like that's my only reality.
And I know exactly how cliché this sounds, I have gone through all the various systems, different styles of therapy and nothing works even over the course of several years of committment.
Why post about it here exactly? Because nobody's going to roll their eyes at me here. I just want to be happy enough that life feels worth living. Because I know it can be but I haven't felt that for a very long time.
You seem like a cool person. We are here for you always.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQF_0xscWcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQF_0xscWcQ)
It is becoming more and more difficult for me to be happy these days. Even when I seemingly get on well with somebody, my mind inevitably drifts to how it can all go horribly wrong, and I'll end up alone again.........which is what has happened. It's gotten to the point where I actively prevent people getting close to me out of sheer terror. :(
Quote from: EJA on Jan 15, 2022, 07:58:43 PM
Even when I seemingly get on well with somebody, my mind inevitably drifts to how it can all go horribly wrong, and I'll end up alone again
I'm certainly familiar with that feeling
Stop thinking that being alone is such a problem, love yourself more.
And dont overthink about things you cannot control, leads nowhere, people suffer more often in imagination than in reality.
Lifting can help with depression and anxiety too.
Spoiler
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People I trust and try to help keep on finding excuses to have a go at me. Can't take it anymore. Deactivated my Facebook account.
Facebook is total shit anyway.
I thoight that's Twitter ?
Twitter is somehow even worse. But facebook is still awful.
I don't use either.
Same
Really struggling recently need to make that call.
It makes me proud to see people openly discussing mental health here. So many others have stigmatized it, and made the illusion you're "weak" if you can't muscle through it or complain about feeling anything other than what they want you to be/feel. I am on 100mg of Setraline for PPD and PMDD, off and on over the last few years and trying other meds in between. It seems since having children, my mental health has deteriorated a bit. I don't blame them (children), because my mother dealt the same, we're just susceptible to mental health issues and imbalances. I miss the old me where I was happier and had bounds of energy. But I'm getting used to the new normal of it all, especially after having COVID during my last pregnancy. Changes you physically and mentally, life. Medication and therapy has helped a bit over time. There is absolutely no shame in seeking help or seeking someone close to talk with. I didn't have that growing up like many haven't either. It was a tough ass dad saying deal with it or a mother that suffered and rolled her eyes when you yourself had any problems, so they'd turn it into a competition. Sending you all positive vibes. Things get real dark sometimes. Just take it one day at a time.
My cousin was already depressed before the pandemic began. It worsened when the pandemic hit the business she works for very hard. I never experienced depression, but current events are making me feel a lot of anxiety that I never felt before. Problems bring in more problems. It's good that we can express and share our problems here. Keeping it to ourselves makes it harder.
Quote from: Shinawi on Mar 03, 2022, 02:47:44 PM
My cousin was already depressed before the pandemic began. It worsened when the pandemic hit the business she works for very hard. I never experienced depression, but current events are making me feel a lot of anxiety that I never felt before. Problems bring in more problems. It's good that we can express and share our problems here. Keeping it to ourselves makes it harder.
The psychological effects of the pandemic are often overlooked, anxiety and depression have spread even more during these last years, and heavier for those that experienced it before.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jan 18, 2022, 10:57:45 PM
Facebook is total shit anyway.
Indeed, sadly I still use it to keep in touch with those I want to meet, organise nights out etc but I gotta be honest, I'm rapidly reaching that point of just shit canning the whole thing regardless. Really has f**ked with my mental wellbeing still using it.
Speaking of mental wellbeing, I will be seeing a therapist soon. It has been on the cards before the pandemic but now it's worse than ever and I feel like on days that I see no point in carrying on with anything if life is going to be constantly cruel to me on any or every level. I'm too exhausted to cry sometimes. f**k everything!
The more we talk I really think the easier it will become, before the pandemic I considered myself mentally strong, Christ, I never even considered/thought about it. I was also ignorant about it... but through a mix of events during the last couple of years, its really taken hold on me. I struggle to talk about it and when I attempt to it makes me crumble... Hugh Edwards, a Welsh journalist recently came out about his struggle with mental health and what he describes is the closest I can explain to how I have felt. Bedridden and it comes in waves, I can feel great or neutral some weeks/days, but then a wave will hit and I just cant think or want to do anything.
I didn't really want to write this post and I've forced myself to, because from reading the messages and recent experience's, I really do think talking about this helps.
I know the feeling.
Massive anxiety today, no particular reason.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 30, 2022, 05:21:35 AMMassive anxiety today, no particular reason.
): my heart goes out to you. Anxiety is a miserable beast. I recently switched to Wellbutrin generic from lupin. Been pretty rough with side effects the first three weeks. But things seem to have settled a bit. A side effect I don't care for is that it makes me have periods of anger. Like I'm literally cursing at inanimate objects and flipping my shit over things I generally wouldn't have. It's stopped mostly now. But it's kinda sad we gotta trade side effects for mental health sometimes. I hope your day is better today, cancerblack.
Actually today also sucks, but for physical health reasons :laugh:
I tried Bupropion too, for smoking cessation, but a combination of the weird and strict order they make you do things in and the general side effects rapidly saw me descend into suicidal ideation so that one's clearly not for me. Not that I've ever found a pill that does work for my mood disorders - probably because they're symptomatic of at-the-time undiagnosed autism rather than root problems in their own right.