No, you called Cleo decent though (which she is).
Maybe its my understanding on english but I think decent and great are 2 different things. She is fine, she isn't bad, that's all. Bad stamina and speed but specializations, perk, gear points and damage boost make up for it a little.
And recognized her as the best option for melee (which not only works on randomers honestly but experienced players too if it's peppered in and out. Pick your spots.)
Not if its a good FT playing on PC. Sure I have beaten PC premades FTs with melee on the past, which could be done by PS preds as there isn't much difference in using melee as Predator playing PS or PC. But those players weren't in like the top 1% of this game which is who I base when I say that melee isn't effective to work on. Maybe that's mainly what differs my experience and opinion, I evaluate the game by including how it works on PC, and since this game wasn't originally designed to be released for PC, I think that's where a lot of balancing issues come into play. FT advantage is higher on PC due to how the mouse helps in aiming to spot and hit the Predator, FT gameplay gets a higher advantage on PC than Predator's.
And the differences between the middle tier Predators are minimal to be honest, but they're all playable.
More noticeable in competitive level matches with players that are all using meta FT builds.
Plus with Cleo's energy, I personally like running her with an unlimited camouflage with Modified Reserves and just smart disc and shoot arrows from high points and never lose cloak due to a drain of power.
All classes will get unlimited cloak as long as they aren't using thermal with modified reserve, except by Viking, Berserker and Samurai I believe. I made a video a while ago testing it on all. Scout actually can use both thermal and cloak without energy drain with modified reserve.
But hey, ask yourself: If the Cleopatra DLC Predator came out and it was the best Predator in the game - better than them all... would you be happy? Or would you be calling her a "Pay to Win" class too? It seems like a no-win-situation when viewed from the angle you're viewing it.
I would be fine with it cus it would balance out with the pay to win FT dlc. Its fair if both sides get it. And like I said FT clearly has the advantage over the Predator on PC, you give them more overpowered stuff while Predator gets nothing, just screws the game's balancing even more. From what I hear from some PS teams, on privates usually FT tend to have a higher winrate regardless of who plays as predator, so maybe its not just on PC, even if its more notiable there. You have all players on the same level of skill, chances of FT winning are always higher.
See, this is where I think you're laying it on a bit thick and I just wish you'd say, 'yeah, maybe I oversold it a bit saying Dutch'87 is pay to win.'
He is not as much pay to win as Dante is.
First, solo is situational. Second, if you and the Predator are equally good players at full health, you're not surviving solo as Dutch'87 (hence why it's an asymmetrical game and therefore not really "pay to win".)
You can if you are doing a 1v1 wristblades x knife fight vs a Hunter class using Dutch87 + thick skin + owlf trained + mud resistance damage + last survivor boost + 2 fast healing syrettes to heal. Vs Dante would probably be harder to fight vs, its easy as hell to 1v1 preds with him in knife fights regardless the player cus thats how the game work, I mean the knife and the parry is bs in general on this game, but with those classes it just takes to another level.
Sure this guy is among the best players in the PC community, both wristblades and Hunter like classes suck for melee combat but this is suppose to be a 1v4 game yet I seen him beat the best PC preds in knife fights and if he was using Assault or Recon things would be diffferent.
Of course in a long range weapon approach this happens instead:
Also, I'd argue there's advantages and disadvantages to being Support or Dutch or Sniper if you end up solo, depending on your playstyle AND the Predator's playstyle.
And there are playstyles that are much more effective than others and can give a much bigger advantage depending on the skill level and platform of the players.