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Title: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: ace3g on Oct 29, 2017, 07:02:35 PM
Doubt it but let's see Jane has anything to say about the movie.

https://twitter.com/paranormalmaste/status/924659106933243904

*title amended. Hicks.
Title: Re: New Thomas Jane Interview
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2017, 07:46:31 PM
So that's another 3 and a bit hours.
Title: Re: New Thomas Jane Interview
Post by: ace3g on Oct 29, 2017, 10:27:13 PM
33 minutes to go
Title: Re: New Thomas Jane Interview
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2017, 11:07:54 PM
Should be on now...?
Title: Re: New Thomas Jane Interview
Post by: ace3g on Oct 29, 2017, 11:18:39 PM
http://shadownation.com/listen-live/
Title: Re: New Thomas Jane Interview
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2017, 11:25:40 PM
Listening now. Thanks.
Title: Re: New Thomas Jane Interview
Post by: ace3g on Oct 29, 2017, 11:31:29 PM
45:30 mark they start talking The Predator
Title: Re: New Thomas Jane Interview
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2017, 12:13:32 AM
Thomas sounds pretty jazzed about it which I'm always happy to hear!
Title: Re: New Thomas Jane Interview
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 30, 2017, 01:01:14 AM
Okay, good stuff here, helps clear things up regarding the loonies beginning situation
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Stealth_Hunter on Oct 30, 2017, 01:31:34 AM
Hell yes!! I like what he described but had to stop listening to save myself from knowing too much. Glad he had a great time filming.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Pre...
Post by: KiramidHead on Oct 30, 2017, 01:47:36 AM
I'm looking forward to his performance. Jane is good enough to make even small roles memorable. That and he was brilliant in 1922.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Oct 30, 2017, 03:59:07 AM
Sounds like some good ol' fun to me
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 30, 2017, 05:25:09 AM
If you find out some kind of vital secret to do with UFOs and threaten to go public, you could be plausibly targeted for assassination.

Just randomly witnessing one isn't going to lead to that, however...

This has a very fan-ficcy vibe to it. :-\
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: skhellter on Oct 30, 2017, 06:39:32 AM
Dont think "fan-ficcy"
Think KENNER.

And The old AvP Arcade Game


That's the level of crazyness that you should expect out of this.
The tone is full on Saturday Morning Cartoon.. but with gore.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: SiL on Oct 30, 2017, 07:01:24 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 30, 2017, 05:25:09 AM
This has a very fan-ficcy vibe to it. :-\
The leaked script has a fan-ficcy vibe to it.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Scorpio on Oct 30, 2017, 07:05:04 AM
That's good, though.  Predator always had that comic book vibe to it. 
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: SiL on Oct 30, 2017, 09:59:39 AM
Comic book is fine. Fan fic is not.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Scorpio on Oct 30, 2017, 10:24:56 AM
The comics books have a lot of crazy stuff in them though that could be fan fiction. 

Some of them have been adapted into the movies like bad blood predators.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Oct 30, 2017, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 30, 2017, 05:25:09 AM
If you find out some kind of vital secret to do with UFOs and threaten to go public, you could be plausibly targeted for assassination.

Just randomly witnessing one isn't going to lead to that, however...
Do you think Shane Black was smart enough to make that conclusion or are yout assuming Jane's brief summary is literal in that his lack of intricate detail means the film has no intricate detail?

QuoteThis has a very fan-ficcy vibe to it. :-\
Can say that about any idea presented especially if you have poor vision of the execution.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Master on Oct 30, 2017, 04:21:50 PM
There is only so much you can do with certain ideas.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Oct 30, 2017, 06:40:22 PM
That's a pretty easy and vague thing to say though, isn't it? On paper the idea of Wolverine fighting a younger clone of himself could elicit the same reaction.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Master on Oct 30, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
Not even close to TP ideas. They'll elicit reactions, that's certain.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: acrediblesource on Oct 30, 2017, 09:35:03 PM
Saturday Morning Cartoon.. but with gore.
This is going to be like Halloween H20 with the all star cast . .....hopefully not as forgettable.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: skhellter on Oct 30, 2017, 09:39:55 PM
There's still time to retitle the film OPERATION: PREDATOR.  :P

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos1.blogger.com%2Fblogger%2F4149%2F1661%2F1600%2FOP_ALIENS.jpg&hash=7e90e165cc901776c3c0b4daf7031c98973577db)
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Oct 30, 2017, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: Master on Oct 30, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
Not even close to TP ideas. They'll elicit reactions, that's certain.

Ideas based on the script or Thomas Jane's interview?
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Scorpio on Oct 30, 2017, 09:55:59 PM
They should go crazy as f**k with it, not just rehash same old same old. 

Female predators with big booobies, that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: skhellter on Oct 30, 2017, 10:14:03 PM
Maybe if the next film is directed by Paul Verhoeven.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Pre...
Post by: KiramidHead on Oct 30, 2017, 10:16:33 PM
If we're handing off Arnold properties to Verhoeven, he should just remake The Running Man.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Scorpio on Oct 30, 2017, 10:23:22 PM
Verhoeven directed Arnold in the original Total Recall.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: KiramidHead on Oct 30, 2017, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Oct 30, 2017, 10:23:22 PM
Verhoeven directed Arnold in the original Total Recall.

I'm well aware.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Master on Oct 31, 2017, 08:15:33 AM
Quote from: Hollywood on Oct 30, 2017, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: Master on Oct 30, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
Not even close to TP ideas. They'll elicit reactions, that's certain.

Ideas based on the script or Thomas Jane's interview?
Script
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Oct 31, 2017, 07:15:29 PM
Quote from: Master on Oct 31, 2017, 08:15:33 AM
Quote from: Hollywood on Oct 30, 2017, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: Master on Oct 30, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
Not even close to TP ideas. They'll elicit reactions, that's certain.

Ideas based on the script or Thomas Jane's interview?
Script

I haven't read the script but has anything Jane said deviated from the script?
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 31, 2017, 08:13:18 PM
Quote from: Hollywood on Oct 31, 2017, 07:15:29 PM
Quote from: Master on Oct 31, 2017, 08:15:33 AM
Quote from: Hollywood on Oct 30, 2017, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: Master on Oct 30, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
Not even close to TP ideas. They'll elicit reactions, that's certain.

Ideas based on the script or Thomas Jane's interview?
Script

I haven't read the script but has anything Jane said deviated from the script?

No, it's pretty much in line with what's in the script.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Oct 31, 2017, 08:58:58 PM
But Jane's comments clear certain things up about how the main characters meet?
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: black on Oct 31, 2017, 09:06:11 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Hollywood on Oct 31, 2017, 10:01:36 PM
So not the entire script leaked or was it changed?
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: skhellter on Oct 31, 2017, 10:23:08 PM
the script got leaked.

an early draft, though.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 31, 2017, 10:33:55 PM
Yes the whole script leaked, but to be honest i didn't read it entirely to keep some surprises in store. Maybe there will be some changes, but i don't expect major stuff to be changed though.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: gabgrave on Nov 01, 2017, 03:23:19 AM
Bunch of war vets get thrown in a bus and goes hunting Preds.
#PredatorPartyVan
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Pre...
Post by: KiramidHead on Nov 01, 2017, 03:57:47 AM
#GoddamnSpaceAliens
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Early draft on Nov 01, 2017, 08:52:38 AM
I am surprised people focus so little on it being an early draft.  My guess is a lot of the bull shit the leakers talk about have been changed or come off better on screen then paper.

Lot can change to a script from one draft to the next..those fillers might have been just for the early scripts.

And not set in stone plot points. .?
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 01, 2017, 08:55:42 AM
From what we know, the backbone of the story is very much still the same. You're right, of course, it could come off completely different on screen.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Ramjet311 on Nov 01, 2017, 09:24:09 AM
Either way i dont care, i will still happily pay to see it. At least it sounds like its going to be an entertaining movie
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: The Wolverine Predator on Nov 01, 2017, 11:30:27 AM
I just wish those who keep hating on the early script would just relax and wait to see the movie before passing judgement
I think it's gonna be a hit
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Not worried on Nov 01, 2017, 03:45:50 PM
The only thing off to me is predators in pants but i bet it will come off as a funny moment and make sense in the film..
Also a kid who bullys an autistic and gets his head blown off sounds awesome

A predator ia a suburb would come off like a slasher film in a way i think. And could be very creepy to think of a predator stalking or sneaking  in a home if for only a portion of the films location.

All comes down to how you film it and what you show or how you show it
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: overthere on Nov 01, 2017, 06:01:51 PM
This is going to be a fun movie.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Master on Nov 01, 2017, 09:25:11 PM
Spoiler
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Yeah, kid flying prefator ship. So awesome! Such hit!
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Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Pre...
Post by: KiramidHead on Nov 01, 2017, 09:35:40 PM
For less than half a page, and it doesn't go very well.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Master on Nov 01, 2017, 09:40:58 PM
Who cares, it's tip of the iceberg. Version I had is full of such dumb scenes.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: black on Nov 01, 2017, 09:44:27 PM
I'm generally scared to think how they will portray the
Spoiler
cabin
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of the ship, given such circumstances.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: So on Nov 02, 2017, 12:41:12 AM
Do you not like that an autistic kid is the only one smart enough ? Or that it is a kid or just that a human flys a ship ?

I grew up in the 80's  and i am fine with this even if it is not an ideal idea
I can think of two movies i liked growing up with kids doing just this.
It is only a small part of the plot from what i gather ?

And it is not as dumb as a predator making out with lex at the end of avp and i have sat through that hunk of junk more times than i like to think
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Pre...
Post by: KiramidHead on Nov 02, 2017, 02:03:53 AM
Having kids in the movie takes away from MUH MACHO MANZ. :laugh:
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 02, 2017, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: Not worried on Nov 01, 2017, 03:45:50 PM
The only thing off to me is predators in pants but i bet it will come off as a funny moment and make sense in the film..
Also a kid who bullys an autistic and gets his head blown off sounds awesome

A predator ia a suburb would come off like a slasher film in a way i think. And could be very creepy to think of a predator stalking or sneaking  in a home if for only a portion of the films location.

All comes down to how you film it and what you show or how you show it

I don't remember precisely of a scene where we have a predator stalking people in the old fashioned way in a  suburb.I mean clearly HUNTING people the way we are used to see them do. It was more action sequences happening in this location, IIRC.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Petr Švancara on Nov 02, 2017, 01:57:47 PM
Is there any chances that they dont use the previously leaked script for the movie? Robert Rodrigues original script was also crazy and totally incompetent with rest of the Predator universe, and how it ends? They dont even use it. If they really use the script we saw, than I would be hardly dissapointed, it will kill me as a big Predator fan.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 02, 2017, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Petr Švancara on Nov 02, 2017, 01:57:47 PM
Is there any chances that they dont use the previously leaked script for the movie? Robert Rodrigues original script was also crazy and totally incompetent with rest of the Predator universe, and how it ends? They dont even use it. If they really use the script we saw, than I would be hardly dissapointed, it will kill me as a big Predator fan.

I think they will use most of what we know now, but for me it depends greatly on the execution. All evidence (the actors, locations photos) points toward the fact that this script is going to be what we will have on screen, maybe with some changes though, but i think the core of the story will not be massively changed.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Vin on Nov 04, 2017, 06:34:35 AM
I love Thomas Jane. He was the finest Punisher, still to this day.

But this Predator movie looks just absolutely horrible. Like something for moms and kids to have a "spooky night" with a hot tub of popcorn.

Me and my friend as kids watched the first 2 Predators, and what them so scary was they hunted you. They hunted people like people would hunt a deer or wolf. They used hunting tricks, bait, different weapons, camo, all that. And they were more advanced, they were superior hunting experts who were religious and had a strong, deep culture that made them feel like so much more.

Predator should be where the hunting tricks get amped up even further. Have "human decoys" that don't look fake till you walk up on them. That's horrifying. Have scents and sounds like a warm camp fire or something relaxing wafting through the air to get you to come to it, only for you to be staring at a tree with a sound and scent box. Maybe go to drink out of your canteen and get hooked in the mouth, or something. Something truly horrifying like that episode of Rocko's Modern Life when the fish were hunting the fishermen. It was kind of funny, but really frightening.
Let there be maybe 4 or 5 of them. They said the original Predator was based on South American head hunters and tribal masks. Why not expand on that? Do away completely with that stupid, cringey stuff and give them much more tribal looking masks. Let them be more spiritual and superstitious rather than "bad ass samurai celt" shit. Let us see more of them as a spiritual, foreign, and complicated peoples who still see us as just deer to hunt. It's horrifying and exciting at the same time. Base them more on Australian Aborigines and South American Indians rather than "fad of the year". Let them have a female predator with them (according to comics, they were twice as big as the males) but she's sort of a "grandmother", or holy shaman woman, who gives spiritual whatever while they hunt.

Thats a story. Not this...suburban 13 year old power fantasy fan-fic.


So you want more beefcake.
I think you judge this movie too harshly before viewing
Everyone here i am sure has a idea they think is better then what we get to see.
But get over it because untill this is panned and flops
We should be glad this is happening at all with this range of talent working on it

You sound unhappy with more then just this script
Perhaps take a look in the mirror and get some therapy
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Pre...
Post by: von on Nov 05, 2017, 02:15:35 AM
Would've been better if you'd saved your rant for AFTER the film is released
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: skhellter on Nov 05, 2017, 02:19:49 PM
Quote from: Vin on Nov 04, 2017, 06:34:35 AM
watched the first 2 Predators, and what them so scary was they hunted you.

:laugh:

Predator was never a scary franchise. ::)
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 05, 2017, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Nov 05, 2017, 02:19:49 PM
Quote from: Vin on Nov 04, 2017, 06:34:35 AM
watched the first 2 Predators, and what them so scary was they hunted you.

:laugh:

Predator was never a scary franchise. ::)

To be fair, we can say that they had some fear elements, but i agree that it's not classical scary movies yes.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 05, 2017, 05:10:42 PM
I wouldn't classify Predator as scary either. He was never horror.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Pre...
Post by: TheBATMAN on Nov 05, 2017, 05:30:31 PM
Hmm, that's a controversial opinion. I'd say the first film has its fair share of horror elements. Being stuck in a never-ending jungle environment being hunted and picked off one by one by a silent, invisible killer would be pretty terrifying.

Predator affected me a lot more than Aliens did when I was a nipper.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: black on Nov 05, 2017, 05:42:54 PM
I think that with the help of the success of Strange Things and IT, this film will have a box office success.I think it's a compromise and then we'll get ...
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: skhellter on Nov 05, 2017, 06:11:55 PM
Predator are fun cool action movies with a lot of tension, atmosphere and R Rated violence
and one of the all time best monster designs ever put on film.

Dont gimme any of this "He Used to be scary!" nonsense.

It was only scary because some of you saw it when you were kids.
It was "scary" due to bad parenting.  ;D
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: D88M on Nov 06, 2017, 03:45:45 AM
the more we hear the worse it sounds
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Pre...
Post by: KiramidHead on Nov 06, 2017, 04:10:37 AM
I do think there's something unsettling in certain moments, like the first few POV sequences before you really know what's happening, and the first few shots of the cloaked Predator where you can't really wrap your head around what you're seeing. That's kind of a one time type of scary, though, that no sequel could really replicate.
Title: Re: Thomas Jane Talks Character’s Backstory in The Predator
Post by: Huggs on Nov 07, 2017, 10:10:49 PM
If in the last moment of some Character's life, Jane tears off his jacket to reveal a punisher shirt and begins firing an m4 at the predator, I'll jump through the ceiling with freakin' glee. God I've always wanted to see that. The punisher tracking some elusive serial killer that turns out to be a predator. Alas, there is no hope.  :'(