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Title: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:31:07 PM

New artwork from the upcoming Aliens: Colonial Marines videogame by Sega and Gearbox has surfaced today in a Spanish magazine called Hobby Consolas. The images show a never seen before Xenomorph design as well as some character concept art. Unfortunately, the 8-page feature doesn’t include much new information. You can check out highlights from the article as well as the scans by clicking the image below.

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Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:33:23 PM

Kodak sent the film's specifications to Gearbox so they could accurately emulate the film's grain and lighting/colouring. The film's grain option can be turned off by the player.

The Alien controls have been "vastly improved" from previous games. The marines won't be as powerful as in AvP.

Gearbox hinted at the presence of the Queen and facehuggers in exclusive MP modes.

According to Mikey Neumann, the game's story will be narrated from 3 points of view: Marines, Aliens and Weyland-Yutani.

Weyland-Yutani's presence in the game compares to Black Water. Their presence will be subtle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi)

Scans:

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Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: MR EL1M1NATOR on Apr 21, 2012, 02:39:53 PM

I don't see a new alien type.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Kol on Apr 21, 2012, 02:40:43 PM

everybody else see this new type of xenomorph on the fifth picture? :o

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:47:35 PM

Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Apr 21, 2012, 02:39:53 PM
I don't see a new alien type.

It's in the 5th scan.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 21, 2012, 02:59:04 PM

Thanks ikarop!!!

Praetorian, perhaps? ;D

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Eliminator-one on Apr 21, 2012, 03:00:06 PM

Quote from: Kol on Apr 21, 2012, 02:40:43 PM
everybody else see this new type of xenomorph on the fifth picture? :o

Yes, I think it's praetorian. ;)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Kol on Apr 21, 2012, 03:07:39 PM

the new one has also "eyes" in it's dome & it looks like a spider(?) to me. the dome seems altered; yes.

it reminds me of this:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_itxeexAFd4U%2FTLKuD82KrSI%2FAAAAAAAAKNo%2FxwNw-K5DfJg%2Fs1600%2FAlienRidleygram.jpg&hash=6a89ad59fb8be198ec3f3d0ff21702009f721a7d)

@ ikarop: how do you mean that with that option, that players can turn on/off? what would the differences look like?

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: newbeing on Apr 21, 2012, 03:08:19 PM

QuoteGearbox hinted at the presence of the Queen and facehuggers in exclusive MP modes.
According to Mikey Neumann, the game's story will be narrated from 3 points of view: Marines, Aliens and Weyland-Yutani.

These two tidbits are very interesting, especially the narration bit.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 03:18:26 PM

Quote from: Kol on Apr 21, 2012, 03:07:39 PM
@ ikarop: how do you mean that with that option, that players can turn on/off? what would the differences look like?

Similar to the option in Mass Effect. You can leave it on or off. And guess we'll have to wait to see the differences.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: alanwu1233 on Apr 21, 2012, 03:18:34 PM

Quote from: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Apr 21, 2012, 02:39:53 PM
I don't see a new alien type.

It's in the 5th scan.

Is there also a synthetic?

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: WinterActual on Apr 21, 2012, 03:22:29 PM

The WY merc is BADASS! But I don't like the whole idea of soldiers fighting mercs. I mean come one man! This game/movie is about soldiers fighting monsters, not another human beings. I like the WY armor preventing the facehugger attack tho.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Berserker Pred on Apr 21, 2012, 03:22:58 PM

Quote from: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:33:23 PM

Kodak sent the film's specifications to Gearbox so they could accurately emulate the film's grain and lighting/colouring. The film's grain option can be turned off by the player.

Gearbox hinted at the presence of the Queen and facehuggers in exclusive MP modes.

According to Mikey Neumann, the game's story will be narrated from 3 points of view: Marines, Aliens and Weyland-Yutani.

Those three are very interesting to me. A game mode with facehuggers and a game mode with the queen sounds amazing! I also like the idea that you can turn grain on and off. And narration from aliens point of view? Does that mean that you will see whats happening from their POV in some cut scenes? I want to get a better look at that new alien type, looks very creepy and also that man in the white amour, who could he be? I'm thinking a Weyland-Yutani but there is no indication of it.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Kol on Apr 21, 2012, 03:25:09 PM

Quote from: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 03:18:26 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 21, 2012, 03:07:39 PM
@ ikarop: how do you mean that with that option, that players can turn on/off? what would the differences look like?

Pretty much like in Mass Effect. You can leave it on or off.

had never the privilege to play mass effect.

you said something about th film's lightning/colouring and i assumed they've enhanced an "A L I E N S"-kinda mode, to emulate the feeling of the movie. but i guess you were talking about the cutscenes?

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 03:31:32 PM

Quote from: Kol on Apr 21, 2012, 03:25:09 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 03:18:26 PM
Quote from: Kol on Apr 21, 2012, 03:07:39 PM
@ ikarop: how do you mean that with that option, that players can turn on/off? what would the differences look like?

Pretty much like in Mass Effect. You can leave it on or off.

had never the privilege to play mass effect.

you said something about th film's lightning/colouring and i assumed they've enhanced an "A L I E N S"-kinda mode, to emulate the feeling of the movie. but i guess you were talking about the cutscenes?

Never said that. They are simply referring to the overall look in the interview. They used Kodak's help to emulate the feeling of the movie.

As for the film grain, the interviewer asks if there will be an option to turn the filter off (grain, colouring, etc...). Brian Cozzens answers that the old-film texture/grain can be turned off if it's considered a distraction by players but the colouring and lighting stays the same.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 21, 2012, 03:42:32 PM

they mentioned the vietnam allegory. i'm impressed.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Ash 937 on Apr 21, 2012, 04:48:24 PM

The fifth picture has a drawing of what appears to be something very similar to the WY soldiers that made an appearance at the end of Alien3.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Nightlord on Apr 21, 2012, 04:55:08 PM

That new alien does look like a praetorian but still I'm hoping it's not, reskining the same old aliens over and over again does not make them new.

Also that WY merc looks far better equipped to deal with aliens than the alien 3 mercs, strange, I wonder if they'll still spawn runners like in avp2 because given the lack of wildlife on LV-426 there won't be any runners otherwise.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: The Runner on Apr 21, 2012, 05:22:44 PM

The new Alien looks quite cool!!

I wonder what unique abilities it has?

I wish the article was in English.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: King Rathalos on Apr 21, 2012, 05:55:48 PM

f**king awesome, my cold and icy heart is filled with sunshine and rainbows. :laugh:

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: 9th_Stew on Apr 21, 2012, 05:59:42 PM

i love the idea of the film grain look

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 21, 2012, 07:05:50 PM

Doesn't look like a praetorian to me. Must be the new GB alien "drone", or" egg carrier" they had talked about long long time ago.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 21, 2012, 07:39:20 PM

it looks like a normal alien with a flat semi-crown and two apendixes to it's sides. you can see it's a mutation from the regular alien, the lines from the cowl are still present. could be a developing queen, a praetorian, or both.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 21, 2012, 07:48:54 PM

Yea its clearly not a drone. The new alien has a crest on its head like a praetorian or young queen.

Bien y bueno ;)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 21, 2012, 07:53:56 PM

You all think its a Praetorian? The minute I saw it, I thought "Oh no...."
It looks like a spider Xeno..... This isn't good. If its a Praetorian then good but if its what I think it is let's hope that is some EARLY concept shit and that its not in the game because... well I don't need to explain.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 21, 2012, 08:16:00 PM

Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 21, 2012, 07:53:56 PM
You all think its a Praetorian? The minute I saw it, I thought "Oh no...."
It looks like a spider Xeno..... This isn't good. If its a Praetorian then good but if its what I think it is let's hope that is some EARLY concept shit and that its not in the game because... well I don't need to explain.

Hard to tell without seeing the whole body. I am ready to see some alien multiplayer gameplay! ;D

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 21, 2012, 09:18:59 PM

Interesting...very interesting. This game may just warrant a purchase...

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: acrediblesource on Apr 21, 2012, 09:21:35 PM

I'm not sure how particular people are with their film grains, I'm not sure if anyone would be particular if they used a different type of film grain than the one they got Kodak to look into(i hope they didn't spend time and money on this- its grain for dog sakes!), but all in all, film great made for an interesting feel with Mass Effect. I like it because it just as a layered visual appeal to it, without it it looks too digital (where you'd pay more attention to bad AntiAliasing).
So Film Grain = Thumbs up!

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: PFC Hudson on Apr 21, 2012, 09:35:54 PM

The WY soldier reminds me of the Alien Trilogy game. You fought WY goons with smart guns in that game too. So this angle of fighting both them and the aliens is nothing new, but I have nothing against it.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Ash 937 on Apr 21, 2012, 10:24:33 PM

While the WY mercenaries did look menacing in Alien3, the full extent of their abilities is never really seen since they are only ever shown shooting at unarmed convicts. I'd love it if there was a standoff between the WY mercenaries and colonial marines in A:CM at one point.

It would also be cool if you could play as a WY mercenary in multiplayer.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: newbeing on Apr 21, 2012, 10:57:00 PM

Quote from: PFC Hudson on Apr 21, 2012, 09:35:54 PM
The WY soldier reminds me of the Alien Trilogy game. You fought WY goons with smart guns in that game too. So this angle of fighting both them and the aliens is nothing new, but I have nothing against it.

Well I certainly hope this time the Aliens attack the WY guys instead of ignoring them and both going after me.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 21, 2012, 11:50:07 PM

Quote from: Ash 937 on Apr 21, 2012, 10:24:33 PM
While the WY mercenaries did look menacing in Alien3, the full extent of their abilities is never really seen since they are only ever shown shooting at unarmed convicts. I'd love it if there was a standoff between the WY mercenaries and colonial marines in A:CM at one point.

It would also be cool if you could play as a WY mercenary in multiplayer.

I actually wanted a game mode like that, marines one team, mercs the other, and AI aliens in between.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Rick Grimes on Apr 22, 2012, 01:51:28 AM

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 21, 2012, 07:39:20 PM
it looks like a normal alien with a flat semi-crown and two apendixes to it's sides. you can see it's a mutation from the regular alien, the lines from the cowl are still present. could be a developing queen, a praetorian, or both.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg513.imageshack.us%2Fimg513%2F8452%2Fimagen026d.jpg&hash=ee53faa36ccbedb7df977890b1458633c8d442b0)

I see the resemblance:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs30%2Fi%2F2008%2F142%2Fb%2Ff%2FAlien_Queen_WIP_3_by_D17rulez.jpg&hash=5727aeb665aa5069a714609b1771759a71fa1ce1)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Headbite on Apr 22, 2012, 02:30:59 AM

The new alien kinda reminds me of the Carrier from AVP Extinction

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: shadowedge on Apr 22, 2012, 03:28:23 AM

I hope it is not a Praetorian, but something new.

Most Alien games have the exact same 8 enemies, but usually less:

facehugger - chestburster - warrior - runner (sometimes) drone (sometimes)- praetorian - predalien (sometimes) - queen.

Time for some new enemies, besides the crusher.

The Capcom AVP Arcade game and AVP Extinction added a LOT of new aliens, and that made it fun.

Aliens take traits from the host species, so the variety should be much more that human and dog born xenomorphs.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: evolution_rex on Apr 22, 2012, 05:21:15 AM

Anyone else notice the vampire teeth on the new alien?

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: WinterActual on Apr 22, 2012, 08:09:27 AM

Quote from: shadowedge on Apr 22, 2012, 03:28:23 AM
I hope it is not a Praetorian, but something new.

Most Alien games have the exact same 8 enemies, but usually less:

facehugger - chestburster - warrior - runner (sometimes) drone (sometimes)- praetorian - predalien (sometimes) - queen.

Time for some new enemies, besides the crusher.

The Capcom AVP Arcade game and AVP Extinction added a LOT of new aliens, and that made it fun.

Aliens take traits from the host species, so the variety should be much more that human and dog born xenomorphs.

If they make so much new aliens they will break the canon and people will laugh at GBX because they already said that they will stay in the canon.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: 9th_Stew on Apr 22, 2012, 09:03:19 AM

Quote from: Rick Grimes on Apr 22, 2012, 01:51:28 AM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 21, 2012, 07:39:20 PM
it looks like a normal alien with a flat semi-crown and two apendixes to it's sides. you can see it's a mutation from the regular alien, the lines from the cowl are still present. could be a developing queen, a praetorian, or both.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg513.imageshack.us%2Fimg513%2F8452%2Fimagen026d.jpg&hash=ee53faa36ccbedb7df977890b1458633c8d442b0)

I see the resemblance:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs30%2Fi%2F2008%2F142%2Fb%2Ff%2FAlien_Queen_WIP_3_by_D17rulez.jpg&hash=5727aeb665aa5069a714609b1771759a71fa1ce1)

thats 1 awesome picture!

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Vepariga on Apr 22, 2012, 01:07:13 PM

That WY Merc looks sick, I wonder if they will have the WY Commandos from Alien 3 in it aswell.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: newbeing on Apr 22, 2012, 01:23:06 PM

Quote from: HicksUSCM on Apr 22, 2012, 08:09:27 AM
Quote from: shadowedge on Apr 22, 2012, 03:28:23 AM
I hope it is not a Praetorian, but something new.

Most Alien games have the exact same 8 enemies, but usually less:

facehugger - chestburster - warrior - runner (sometimes) drone (sometimes)- praetorian - predalien (sometimes) - queen.

Time for some new enemies, besides the crusher.

The Capcom AVP Arcade game and AVP Extinction added a LOT of new aliens, and that made it fun.

Aliens take traits from the host species, so the variety should be much more that human and dog born xenomorphs.
If they make so much new aliens they will break the canon and people will laugh at GBX because they already said that they will stay in the canon.

So by that logic every movie after Alien wouldn't be considered canon?

Think of it this way, each of the Alien movies was around 2 hours long and introduced at least 1 new alien type. So it doesn't seem unreasonable that a game, which could run 8 hours would introduce 4 or more new Alien types. If there are really only 3 acts in the game I wouldn't be surprised if we're introduced to 1 or more new aliens per act.

IMO what we've seen really isn't stretching the canon all that far. Then again, the newborn kind of broke my grading curve. What a piece of shit that thing was.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 22, 2012, 02:26:29 PM

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 22, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
IMO what we've seen really isn't stretching the canon all that far.

nah HH survival isn't streching, not only canon, but also common sense all that far right

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: szkoki on Apr 22, 2012, 02:59:02 PM

who cares about this, still 1 year to go -.- (i address this sega not to ikarop)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: WinterActual on Apr 22, 2012, 04:14:32 PM

Quote from: szkoki on Apr 22, 2012, 02:59:02 PM
who cares about this, still 1 year to go -.- (i address this sega not to ikarop)

Don't say that.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 22, 2012, 04:17:02 PM

Quote from: szkoki on Apr 22, 2012, 02:59:02 PM
who cares about this, still 1 year to go -.- (i address this sega not to ikarop)

better yet. i'm gonna say this again, if there's a moment to dump all your complains and thoughts and ideas, it is now.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 22, 2012, 06:00:38 PM

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 22, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
So by that logic every movie after Alien wouldn't be considered canon?

Think of it this way, each of the Alien movies was around 2 hours long and introduced at least 1 new alien type. So it doesn't seem unreasonable that a game, which could run 8 hours would introduce 4 or more new Alien types. If there are really only 3 acts in the game I wouldn't be surprised if we're introduced to 1 or more new aliens per act.

IMO what we've seen really isn't stretching the canon all that far. Then again, the newborn kind of broke my grading curve. What a piece of shit that thing was.

I agree. I am fine with new enemy types, as long as they aren't stretching it. I am hoping that Xeno in the pic is NOT a spider Xeno, but everytime I see it, thats what pops into my head.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 22, 2012, 06:44:49 PM

Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 22, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: newbeing on Apr 22, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
So by that logic every movie after Alien wouldn't be considered canon?

Think of it this way, each of the Alien movies was around 2 hours long and introduced at least 1 new alien type. So it doesn't seem unreasonable that a game, which could run 8 hours would introduce 4 or more new Alien types. If there are really only 3 acts in the game I wouldn't be surprised if we're introduced to 1 or more new aliens per act.

IMO what we've seen really isn't stretching the canon all that far. Then again, the newborn kind of broke my grading curve. What a piece of shit that thing was.

I agree. I am fine with new enemy types, as long as they aren't stretching it. I am hoping that Xeno in the pic is NOT a spider Xeno, but everytime I see it, thats what pops into my head.

I see what you mean. That may just be some confusion between the dorsal tubes mixing with stuff that is hanging from the ceiling. The drawing is not very clear.

Please no spider xenos! Lol

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: szkoki on Apr 22, 2012, 07:05:29 PM

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 22, 2012, 04:17:02 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Apr 22, 2012, 02:59:02 PM
who cares about this, still 1 year to go -.- (i address this sega not to ikarop)

better yet. i'm gonna say this again, if there's a moment to dump all your complains and thoughts and ideas, it is now.

so i cant share my opinion on this topic?

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Apr 22, 2012, 08:06:16 PM

Quote from: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
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I hate when they do this... They used an alien from the original 1999 AVP for the PC in the image on the top right corner...

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: szkoki on Apr 22, 2012, 08:09:55 PM

Quote from: Predaker on Apr 22, 2012, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Apr 22, 2012, 07:05:29 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 22, 2012, 04:17:02 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Apr 22, 2012, 02:59:02 PM
who cares about this, still 1 year to go -.- (i address this sega not to ikarop)

better yet. i'm gonna say this again, if there's a moment to dump all your complains and thoughts and ideas, it is now.

so i cant share my opinion on this topic?
I believe he is saying now is a great time for you to share your opinions, thoughts, ideas, etc.

Please do!

just find the whole pushing back yet still advertising since 2009 stuff ridicolous

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: stemot on Apr 22, 2012, 10:04:05 PM

Quote from: Mikey on Apr 22, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg9.imageshack.us%2Fimg9%2F3188%2Fimagen030se.th.jpg&hash=835aa731fe3ff521eafb2ebadc076c2e0fcf29bf) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/imagen030se.jpg/)

I hate when they do this... They used an alien from the original 1999 AVP for the PC in the image on the top right corner...

Noticed that as well, just lazy.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 22, 2012, 10:21:45 PM

Quote from: stemot on Apr 22, 2012, 10:04:05 PM
Quote from: Mikey on Apr 22, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
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I hate when they do this... They used an alien from the original 1999 AVP for the PC in the image on the top right corner...

Noticed that as well, just lazy.

That is an old pic. Its just concept art. The actual game looks different now.

The alien floating off into space in the background is a pic from a toy alien. The alien dancing in the hallway is a commonly used pic for the warrior. You can find them both easily by searching google images.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fp3sflw.bay.livefilestore.com%2Fy1ptsgQpZ2cHtT2NYkM7VnshxHsncgSoG9IdYYSASTLZrXIejtTstVAE5LPa9DhX3UCStBJLr0yoTTR1XnWjXlEAg%2FClassic_Alien-statue.jpg&hash=ec636281486e7783b1a9dc0caaa1833b317c108e)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Nightlord on Apr 22, 2012, 10:36:38 PM

Quote from: Predaker on Apr 22, 2012, 10:21:45 PM
Quote from: stemot on Apr 22, 2012, 10:04:05 PM
Quote from: Mikey on Apr 22, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
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I hate when they do this... They used an alien from the original 1999 AVP for the PC in the image on the top right corner...

Noticed that as well, just lazy.
That is an old pic. Its just concept art. The actual game looks different now.

The alien floating off into space in the background is a pic from a toy alien. The alien dancing in the hallway is a commonly used pic for the warrior. You can find them both easily by searching google images.

http://p3sflw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1ptsgQpZ2cHtT2NYkM7VnshxHsncgSoG9IdYYSASTLZrXIejtTstVAE5LPa9DhX3UCStBJLr0yoTTR1XnWjXlEAg/Classic_Alien-statue.jpg

It's still lazy as hell though and just pointless.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: newbeing on Apr 22, 2012, 10:52:17 PM

Quote from: Nightlord on Apr 22, 2012, 10:36:38 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Apr 22, 2012, 10:21:45 PM
Quote from: stemot on Apr 22, 2012, 10:04:05 PM
Quote from: Mikey on Apr 22, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Apr 21, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
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I hate when they do this... They used an alien from the original 1999 AVP for the PC in the image on the top right corner...

When you have hundreds and hundreds of concept or storyboard pieces to do in a short amount of time you sometimes have to cut corners.

However I don't think they should be using those types of images for media.
Noticed that as well, just lazy.
That is an old pic. Its just concept art. The actual game looks different now.

The alien floating off into space in the background is a pic from a toy alien. The alien dancing in the hallway is a commonly used pic for the warrior. You can find them both easily by searching google images.

http://p3sflw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1ptsgQpZ2cHtT2NYkM7VnshxHsncgSoG9IdYYSASTLZrXIejtTstVAE5LPa9DhX3UCStBJLr0yoTTR1XnWjXlEAg/Classic_Alien-statue.jpg
It's still lazy as hell though and just pointless.

Ok not sure why this didn't post my text the first time...

When you have to make hundreds upon hundreds of concept images you sometimes have to cut some corners, especially when your on a strict timeline.

I will agree that it almost looks too in game to be used as promotional material. There is probably much better concept art to show.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 22, 2012, 11:01:44 PM

How is it lazy? It's concept art. Those images are not representative of gameplay. It's put together as a concept which they built upon. Why waste effort on that? The true effort goes into the actual game, not the concept art (visually speaking.)

There are plenty of other pictures which are much better, and show how much effort they truly put into this game. It's not accurate to judge them based off one picture that was never intended to be an actual gameplay screenshot.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: OpenMaw on Apr 23, 2012, 12:13:50 AM

Quote from: Predaker on Apr 22, 2012, 11:01:44 PM
How is it lazy? It's concept art. Those images are not representative of gameplay. It's put together as a concept which they built upon. Why waste effort on that? The true effort goes into the actual game, not the concept art (visually speaking.)

There are plenty of other pictures which are much better, and show how much effort they truly put into this game. It's not accurate to judge them based off one picture that was never intended to be an actual gameplay screenshot.

It's false advertising when that shit gets put into a magazine.

Also, since it's being used publicly as part of promotional material for the game, they should be in trouble for stealing someone elses artwork.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 23, 2012, 12:24:46 AM

the whole world belongs to Fox.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 23, 2012, 12:29:08 AM

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 23, 2012, 12:24:46 AM
the whole world belongs to Fox.

Yea fox owns all the rights. I do not think they will get into legal trouble. The magazine used it for an early game review, so its not an actual advertisement. (Literally speaking)

As newbeing mentioned, it was most likely part of their storyboard. I am sure those images of the aliens will not be in the final product.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: OpenMaw on Apr 23, 2012, 01:05:37 AM

Just seems kinda wrong to me to do that, though.

I mean, privately? Sure. But this is something you're showing to people in a magazine, you should have your own assets on display and nothing else.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: HUGZZ on Apr 23, 2012, 02:11:28 AM

This has to be my favorite alen design by far :D can't wait to play the game :)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: The Necronoir on Apr 23, 2012, 09:16:23 AM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 23, 2012, 12:13:50 AM
It's false advertising when that shit gets put into a magazine.

Also, since it's being used publicly as part of promotional material for the game, they should be in trouble for stealing someone elses artwork.

By that logic any concept artwork, pre-rez graphics, or simple box art is false advertising because it doesn't reflect the visual look of what's in the final game. Concept art is precisely that: a quick encapsulation of a very specific thing for the artists to work from. As someone interested in the game-making process, I love the insight concept art provides. Some of it is good enough to frame, and some of it is a slap-dash attempt to convey something rather straightforward. Why bother drawing an alien warrior from scratch when you can simply drop in an existing graphic to give a rough idea of scale etc?

As for the topic at hand, I wonder what gameplay role this new sub-type of alien is going to play. To judge based on its look, I would have said stealth/ambush, but we already know the domed aliens are fulfilling that role. The ridge heads are fulfilling the cannon fodder role, and the crusher is going to be the brute, so what does that really leave? Ranged attacks, maybe?

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: shadowedge on Apr 23, 2012, 12:47:45 PM

Could it be?

Spoiler

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F2qi93ip.jpg&hash=3722b78b894b1d1fd8c8728260b284df47b939bf)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2Fzklp8o.jpg&hash=d21b9dd7e6fbab60b5b9d1d553081fe38d5ff12e)
The old Arachnid Alien from Kenner? What kind of giant spiders does LV-426 have that can be facehugged?

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Nah ;)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 23, 2012, 02:27:11 PM

Whatever it is, I can't wait to shoot one! :D

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 23, 2012, 02:52:21 PM

Quote from: shadowedge on Apr 23, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
Could it be?

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F2qi93ip.jpg&hash=3722b78b894b1d1fd8c8728260b284df47b939bf)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2Fzklp8o.jpg&hash=d21b9dd7e6fbab60b5b9d1d553081fe38d5ff12e)
The old Arachnid Alien from Kenner? What kind of giant spiders does LV-426 have that can be facehugged?
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Nah ;)

emm, nice spot there shadowedge, which inevitably leads to an epic omg GB you can't be serious If true...

I still think that alien might be the egg carrier they were talking about some years ago, or maybe the alien "drone" they were announcing too by that time along with the egg carrier.

Remember the alien drone has never seen on the screen. All we know about It is that It is a ridged alien like the warrior but way smaller in size.

We've seen Giger's alien, an alien type which is not under the influence of a queen, can not be destroyed, lives for a few days only and It is basically Its host reborn as the perfect organism. Then we've also seem the arachn..., I mean the Cameralien, which is basically a puppet under the influence of a queen and with extended lifespan probably months or years who knows; it's as big as the Giger's alien, can be killed, It's not very smart and attacks in groups. So why couldn't that thing be the small alien drone Cameron couldn't include in his film?, maybe GB wanna give It a go and add the third and last human born alien class we needed since Cameron released "Aliens".

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: shadowedge on Apr 23, 2012, 03:52:48 PM

Quote from: escroto on Apr 23, 2012, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: shadowedge on Apr 23, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
Could it be?

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F2qi93ip.jpg&hash=3722b78b894b1d1fd8c8728260b284df47b939bf)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2Fzklp8o.jpg&hash=d21b9dd7e6fbab60b5b9d1d553081fe38d5ff12e)
The old Arachnid Alien from Kenner? What kind of giant spiders does LV-426 have that can be facehugged?
[close]

Nah ;)
emm, nice spot there shadowedge, which inevitably leads to an epic omg GB you can't be serious If true...

I still think that alien might be the egg carrier they were talking about some years ago, or maybe the alien "drone" they were announcing too by that time along with the egg carrier.

Remember the alien drone has never seen on the screen. All we know about It is that It is a ridged alien like the warrior but way smaller in size.

We've seen Giger's alien, an alien type which is not under the influence of a queen, can not be destroyed, lives for a few days only and It is basically Its host reborn as the perfect organism. Then we've also seem the arachn..., I mean the Cameralien, which is basically a puppet under the influence of a queen and with extended lifespan probably months or years who knows; it's as big as the Giger's alien, can be killed, It's not very smart and attacks in groups. So why couldn't that thing be the small alien drone Cameron couldn't include in his film?, maybe GB wanna give It a go and add the third and last human born alien class we needed since Cameron released "Aliens".

Thanks for the compliment, but I think you may be confused one the Giger Alien thing.

The Giger alien was a drone, and it was not indestructible or it's host reborn. It was just another type of xenomorph, and would possible loose it's smooth dome after a pierod of time in which it would be rigged.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 23, 2012, 04:11:30 PM

Giger's alien a drone?, man this is news to me, not to mention that way for referring to It is almost as insulting as that famous nickname "scout" for, which perhaps was the strongest, biggest and most feared out of all aliens seen in the movies, along with maybe the runner, the most violent alien ever seen.

Look there's a problem when you try to apply Cameron's lore to the previous seen in "Alien", and the problem usually consists in you crashing into a concrete wall. Both movies/monster were based on complete different visions, and you can't try applying Cameron's vision on which it was not a creation of his. Apply Cameron's vision to the alien warrior and his drone only (I'm explaining now why this last one too)

And btw, so you can see who of the two is actually confused or maybe wrong. The alien "drone" was created by Cameron and had nothing to do with the first alien. It was going to be a ridged head, smaller than the warrior and in charge of the house work, spreading resin shit all over the place, helping to place eggs around, etc. He couldn't put this alien class in the film due to budget and time problems and got discarded eventually, BUT his concept remained.

You are just suffering from the secondary effects caused by long exposures to Cameron's lore after all these many years. Alien and Aliens were different movies man, different monsters with different visions of each director.

Glad to help you discovering that the alien drone was already imagined by Cameron. The first alien was just a mystery which MIGHT get an explanation, a very very subtle explanation in prometheus (doubt it tbh) or perhaps in a more than probable sequel to this movie. For now all we know about this alien class is that It had more of jockey than we could have ever imagined before...

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 23, 2012, 09:47:34 PM

If you want to be technical, any Xeno that isn't the Queen is a drone.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: The Runner on Apr 23, 2012, 09:53:08 PM

Quote from: shadowedge on Apr 23, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
Could it be?

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F2qi93ip.jpg&hash=3722b78b894b1d1fd8c8728260b284df47b939bf)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2Fzklp8o.jpg&hash=d21b9dd7e6fbab60b5b9d1d553081fe38d5ff12e)
The old Arachnid Alien from Kenner? What kind of giant spiders does LV-426 have that can be facehugged?
[close]

Nah ;)

Dear lord...i'm still praying those are back tubes in the picture.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 23, 2012, 11:28:57 PM

Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 23, 2012, 09:47:34 PM
If you want to be technical, any Xeno that isn't the Queen is a drone.

Yeah, 'drone' and 'warrior' are interchangeable terms for an adult Alien. When it comes to the films. For the sake of games every little change in design becomes a different class.

QuoteWhat kind of giant spiders does LV-426 have that can be facehugged?

You rang?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmafoliemonenvie.unblog.fr%2Ffiles%2F2008%2F06%2Flotr3shelob01.jpg&hash=8765c3a8ef1bda8109eb7e38fc475e598bd2f35d)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Nightlord on Apr 24, 2012, 12:49:31 AM

Quote from: SM on Apr 23, 2012, 11:28:57 PM

QuoteWhat kind of giant spiders does LV-426 have that can be facehugged?

You rang?
http://mafoliemonenvie.unblog.fr/files/2008/06/lotr3shelob01.jpg

With the way Gearbox is using radiation in this game that could happen.
Maybe the aliens are just a distraction from the main enemy

Spoiler

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.allmoviephoto.com%2F2002_Eight_Legged_Freaks%2Fspider_eight_legged_freaks_001.jpg&hash=26e2059858a714da35eb121fbb1eafd0eeedd957)

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Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 24, 2012, 01:23:37 AM

Someone got a spider problem?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpropstore.com%2Fimg%2Fproducts%2F111%2FAlienResAurigaPistol_dvd2.jpg&hash=d12c425aa04de0bcfb089be63c077af99fcc9f29)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 24, 2012, 02:45:59 AM

I. F*cking. Hate. Spiders.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Prime113 on Apr 24, 2012, 03:59:49 AM

Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 24, 2012, 02:45:59 AM
I. F*cking. Hate. Spiders.

Me too. :(

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 24, 2012, 07:05:54 AM

Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 23, 2012, 09:47:34 PM
If you want to be technical, any Xeno that isn't the Queen is a drone.

technically, any alien that isn't a queen can be several things (Giger's, Cameron's warrior, runner, a drone, etc), not a drone only, among other things because we've never seen one in the movies given that Cameron didn't eventually use It in his.

And on the spider alien thing..., omg, if so then can't take GB in serious anymore. I'll think that thing is either their new alien drone or their egg carrier until they reveal It eventually.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Ash 937 on Apr 24, 2012, 08:27:02 AM

I really hope we see some sort of flying alien and an alien that can dig through steal because its head is shaped like a shovel.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: shadowedge on Apr 24, 2012, 09:10:25 AM

Quote from: Ash 937 on Apr 24, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
I really hope we see some sort of flying alien and an alien that can dig through steal because its head is shaped like a shovel.

Another Kenner figure fits the bill.

Spoiler

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2zewn6v.jpg&hash=4b56822b8ad7ae1ca590d251c07de8f0363e0514)

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Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Sigglas on Apr 24, 2012, 10:35:52 AM

Quote from: shadowedge on Apr 24, 2012, 09:10:25 AM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Apr 24, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
I really hope we see some sort of flying alien and an alien that can dig through steal because its head is shaped like a shovel.

Another Kenner figure fits the bill.
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2zewn6v.jpg&hash=4b56822b8ad7ae1ca590d251c07de8f0363e0514)
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Awful. Just Awful.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 24, 2012, 11:17:55 AM

After listening to what forum member Chris$$ said about the new alien being possibly a "spider" alien (why not, look at the rhino alien now called "crusher"), then watching the Lance video on the oher thread posted by Ikarop, and then stopping It at "6:30" and looking all those damn stupid alien toys..., has anyone here realized GB might be going down that comercial road in ACM eventuallY?

I've been following this game since Its was announced, and the last thing I was expeting was they were going to use alien concepts seen in those old stupid toys, but after HH survival, the crusher alien (It is the rhino alien from the toys after all but with a praetorian crest), and some other dissapointments..., why not?

Only thing I know is that If It ends up being so, I'm gonna go mad. After all these years, and now this...

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: shadowedge on Apr 24, 2012, 02:29:41 PM

Quote from: escroto on Apr 24, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
After listening to what forum member Chris$$ said about the new alien being possibly a "spider" alien (why not, look at the rhino alien now called "crusher"), then watching the Lance video on the oher thread posted by Ikarop, and then stopping It at "6:30" and looking all those damn stupid alien toys..., has anyone here realized GB might be going down that comercial road in ACM eventuallY?

I've been following this game since Its was announced, and the last thing I was expeting was they were going to use alien concepts seen in those old stupid toys, but after HH survival, the crusher alien (It is the rhino alien from the toys after all but with a praetorian crest), and some other dissapointments..., why not?

Only thing I know is that If It ends up being so, I'm gonna go mad. After all these years, and now this...

Most of those Kenner toys do not make much sense, but the basic concept of aliens taking on traits of it's host species is canon.

I'm not saying that Gearbox should copy the Kenner figures, but it would be nice if they invented some new xenomorph types to add some variety to the enemies.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Kol on Apr 24, 2012, 02:32:21 PM

Quote from: shadowedge on Apr 24, 2012, 02:29:41 PM
Quote from: escroto on Apr 24, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
After listening to what forum member Chris$$ said about the new alien being possibly a "spider" alien (why not, look at the rhino alien now called "crusher"), then watching the Lance video on the oher thread posted by Ikarop, and then stopping It at "6:30" and looking all those damn stupid alien toys..., has anyone here realized GB might be going down that comercial road in ACM eventuallY?

I've been following this game since Its was announced, and the last thing I was expeting was they were going to use alien concepts seen in those old stupid toys, but after HH survival, the crusher alien (It is the rhino alien from the toys after all but with a praetorian crest), and some other dissapointments..., why not?

Only thing I know is that If It ends up being so, I'm gonna go mad. After all these years, and now this...

Most of those Kenner toys do not make much sense, but the basic concept of aliens taking on traits of it's host species is canon.

I'm not saying that Gearbox should copy the Kenner figures, but it would be nice if they invented some new xenomorph types to add some variety to the enemies.

i see also no problem with that.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: mastermoon on Apr 24, 2012, 02:34:38 PM

Is anyone else sick of this game always having it's release date pushed many times.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Razz on Apr 24, 2012, 03:45:42 PM

Quote from: mastermoon on Apr 24, 2012, 02:34:38 PM
Is anyone else sick of this game always having it's release date pushed many times.

Lets not go down that round again...please. :-\

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 24, 2012, 04:23:13 PM

Quote from: mastermoon on Apr 24, 2012, 02:34:38 PM
Is anyone else sick of this game always having it's release date pushed many times.

If you haven't been following It first got announced as a ps2 game back in 2002, then you can't even imagine

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 24, 2012, 05:16:16 PM

That was just pillow talk, baby.

Gimme some sugar.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 24, 2012, 05:31:13 PM

and the aliens at least looked and sounded like aliens, apart from their size being a lot more accurate; they still were small, but way taller than these new generation and casual friendly ACM trolololaliens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIeLGifENbI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIeLGifENbI#)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: MR EL1M1NATOR on Apr 24, 2012, 05:48:06 PM

I didn't think there was any other life on LV-426 so how are all these variations of xeno's coming about?

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 24, 2012, 05:50:45 PM

Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Apr 24, 2012, 05:48:06 PM
I didn't think there was any other life on LV-426 so how are all these variations of xeno's coming about?

Mutation by radiation, or so I heard. Maybe the radiation also stunted their growth. Lol

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 24, 2012, 06:20:50 PM

yep, the perfect organism being affected by radiation lol. The explanation is as great as the one used for HH survival

Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Apr 24, 2012, 05:48:06 PM
I didn't think there was any other life on LV-426 so how are all these variations of xeno's coming about?

they seem to be following Kennner's retardation If chris$$ theory about the new alien being a spider alien ends up being true. We would have then the rhino and spider alien. You see, committing suicide the only way before this situation, or maybe nuke Gearbox HQ from orbit, and Sega HQ too of course.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Spaghetti on Apr 24, 2012, 06:36:22 PM

I dig the WY commandoes look.

And the three way story perspective sounds cool. This and the third person perspective alien stuff has got me feeling better about all this colonial marine stuff.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 24, 2012, 07:47:43 PM

Quote from: Spaghetti on Apr 24, 2012, 06:36:22 PM
I dig the WY commandoes look.

And the three way story perspective sounds cool. This and the third person perspective alien stuff has got me feeling better about all this colonial marine stuff.

being WY perspective the most interesting out of all, probably.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: MR EL1M1NATOR on Apr 24, 2012, 07:55:47 PM

I hadn't really given much thought to the plot of A:CM until now, but the more I think about it, the stupider it seems.

I always assumed it would be the 17 days time period that hicks says they have to wait for a rescue mission. That makes sense. Why the hell is set after alien 3 as well? And why is the Sullaco back in orbit around LV-426?

Gearbox have clearly got some reason for this, but weather or not it is a good one I have my doubts.

Also regarding Hadley's Hope still standing, one theory I had was that because the buildings would be designed to withstand extreme weather conditions it would be pretty tough and then it wouldn't be too surprising that it could stay partly intact after an explosion. However, the fact that there are still facehuggers in jars in the med lab and then in the next room the wall is blown off (but the map is still there and undamaged) is pretty ridiculous.

I think they are trying too hard to put in all these easter eggs that don't fit in with continuity (Bishop's legs), instead of putting more effort into trying to make a new and exciting Aliens story.

I am still looking forward to the game though.

Also, why the hell are there even Xenomorphs still there? The Hive was right in the centre of the explosion!

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Ash 937 on Apr 24, 2012, 08:14:10 PM

Quote from: MR EL1M1NATOR on Apr 24, 2012, 07:55:47 PM
I hadn't really given much thought to the plot of A:CM until now, but the more I think about it, the stupider it seems.

You can't make a game that identically follows the plot of a movie that you already saw because it would be based on an outcome that you already know. That would be potentially boring. GBX wanted to make an Aliens game without redoing Aliens outright and this is the best they could come up with.

I have a feeling that all of the plot holes in this game will be as widely debated on this website in a similar way that Alien3 is discussed. I am prepared for the game's inconsistencies in relation to the film to be annoying but I don't think it will distract me from enjoying the game overall so long as the controls are tight and there are more than a few good fire fights to go along with A:CM's uninspiring premise.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Kol on Apr 24, 2012, 10:26:40 PM

Quote from: escroto on Apr 24, 2012, 07:47:43 PM
Quote from: Spaghetti on Apr 24, 2012, 06:36:22 PM
I dig the WY commandoes look.

And the three way story perspective sounds cool. This and the third person perspective alien stuff has got me feeling better about all this colonial marine stuff.
being WY perspective the most interesting out of all, probably.

how can i interpret this? do we play as marines, aliens & weyland-yutani-mercs? ???

Spoiler

Aliens vs. Money-grubbing-Megacorp

[close]

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 24, 2012, 10:41:55 PM

We may play as Mercs outside of the Campaign. But campaign is definitely Marines.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: mastermoon on Apr 24, 2012, 11:13:51 PM

Whats the updated release date for this game?.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 24, 2012, 11:18:38 PM

Quote from: mastermoon on Apr 24, 2012, 11:13:51 PM
Whats the updated release date for this game?.

Planned for release in fall 2012

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: mastermoon on Apr 24, 2012, 11:22:00 PM

Wow thats still some time away.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: p1nk81cd on Apr 25, 2012, 10:40:17 PM

Sweet! A Xeno's POV, i wonder what lucky Xenomorph shall be stuck with the story, Morgan Skreeman? :)

"Every since I was a little Drone, people have enjoyed the sound of me hisses." :D

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 25, 2012, 11:52:19 PM

QuoteI have a feeling that all of the plot holes in this game will be as widely debated on this website in a similar way that Alien3 is discussed. I am prepared for the game's inconsistencies in relation to the film to be annoying but I don't think it will distract me from enjoying the game overall so long as the controls are tight and there are more than a few good fire fights to go along with A:CM's uninspiring premise.

I'd generally agree - but replace 'uninspiring' with 'moronic'.

I'm digging the hell out of the SNES Alien3 right now and that only resembles Alien3 in the fact that Ripley's bald and the setting. She never had an arsenal in Alien3. Nor was she running up and down platforms and ladders a la Super Mario rescuing prisoners who had the Aliens had chained(?) up.

If the game is fun to play the 'story' is irrelevant.

Oh and I doubt people will debate the inconsistencies in the same way as Alien3. A video game doesn't have anything near the weight of a film.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 26, 2012, 02:57:22 AM

Quote from: SM on Apr 25, 2012, 11:52:19 PM
QuoteI have a feeling that all of the plot holes in this game will be as widely debated on this website in a similar way that Alien3 is discussed. I am prepared for the game's inconsistencies in relation to the film to be annoying but I don't think it will distract me from enjoying the game overall so long as the controls are tight and there are more than a few good fire fights to go along with A:CM's uninspiring premise.

I'd generally agree - but replace 'uninspiring' with 'moronic'.

I'm digging the hell out of the SNES Alien3 right now and that only resembles Alien3 in the fact that Ripley's bald and the setting. She never had an arsenal in Alien3. Nor was she running up and down platforms and ladders a la Super Mario rescuing prisoners who had the Aliens had chained(?) up.

If the game is fun to play the 'story' is irrelevant.

Oh and I doubt people will debate the inconsistencies in the same way as Alien3. A video game doesn't have anything near the weight of a film.

How tall were the aliens? ;D
I haven't played that game in over 10 years... lol

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 03:02:01 AM

They all run around on all fours - hard to tell.

Big enough. :)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Cap. Fitzgerald on Apr 26, 2012, 04:15:14 AM

I just noticed there's a female marine there, that was something I was wondering about.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Ash 937 on Apr 26, 2012, 05:06:16 AM

Quote from: SM on Apr 25, 2012, 11:52:19 PM

If the game is fun to play the 'story' is irrelevant.

Agreed.

Quote from: SM on Apr 25, 2012, 11:52:19 PM
Oh and I doubt people will debate the inconsistencies in the same way as Alien3. A video game doesn't have anything near the weight of a film.

Yeah, upon thinking about your comment more, I'd have to agree with that too. Still, I can't wait to see a debate on this forum where people are discussing an event in Aliens or Alien3 and someone interjects with a comment about A:CM as if it is part of the film mythology. Some people will need to be convinced that there is a huge difference between the films in the series and the video games that are created out of it.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 07:27:47 AM

There's a quote from Randy Pitchford in the spanish magazine that reads literally (previous translation):

"You will like alien3 a lot more after you've played ACM".

Man that one is pathetically disrespectful towards the last and greatest alien movie we had, and tbh is souring me pretty much. Who is this guy to say such thing? lol, alien3 was already a great and beautiful movie without the need of a game featuring moronic explanations for a ROFLMAO HH survival, rhino aliens, probable spider aliens, radiation affecting which is supposed to be the perfect organism, etc.

And there are a couple of other funny things he says in the article, kinda insulting alien3 too. This Pitchford dude seems to behave like a teenager from time to time. I actually appreciate he gets excited like a kid when promoting GB games (that's a good sign coming from a person), but he really needs to control his legit excitement before this leads him to criticize things without an actual argumentary.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: WinterActual on Apr 26, 2012, 09:25:12 AM

I don't like Alien 3 at all so I can understand this as ACM is so bad that I will even like Alien 3 rather than ACM ::) :D

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: robbritton on Apr 26, 2012, 09:29:57 AM

I've said it many times, so this should probably be the last, but we simply don't know what their ingame explanations for things that seem odd now are going to be. Wait and see - they may have devised some fantastic reasons for crusher aliens and still standing APs. I very much doubt it'll be, "they just are so deal with it LOL". I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until I've actually heard their reasoning. Afterwards, who knows? Maybe I'll be the head of the lampooners line. I do really hope not, though.

Is it so hard to hang on a few months before rubbishing a story you don't even know yet? It just seems so needlessly negative - even with a flawed story it could still be a great experience. I dunno. It just feels like the Alien franchise is getting so much love this year, compared to the little respect I've seen at varying times since 1992 - it's all encouraging, surely?

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 12:15:06 PM

Quote from: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 07:27:47 AM
There's a quote from Randy Pitchford in the spanish magazine that reads literally (previous translation):

"You will like alien3 a lot more after you've played ACM".

Man that one is pathetically disrespectful towards the last and greatest alien movie we had, and tbh is souring me pretty much. Who is this guy to say such thing? lol, alien3 was already a great and beautiful movie without the need of a game featuring moronic explanations for a ROFLMAO HH survival, rhino aliens, probable spider aliens, radiation affecting which is supposed to be the perfect organism, etc.

And there are a couple of other funny things he says in the article, kinda insulting alien3 too. This Pitchford dude seems to behave like a teenager from time to time. I actually appreciate he gets excited like a kid when promoting GB games (that's a good sign coming from a person), but he really needs to control his legit excitement before this leads him to criticize things without an actual argumentary.

i think his statement regarding alien³ goes to the alien³ haters.
but i think he's one, too.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: p1nk81cd on Apr 26, 2012, 05:28:04 PM

Bah! Everyone is picking on Alien 3 again >:(
It could be worse, this game could be tied directly to Resurrection :-X

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 06:08:12 PM

Well the alien resurrection game was really good though the film was a kind of joke.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 26, 2012, 06:20:31 PM

I enjoyed watching Alien 3 personally. I think it was not everyone's cup of tea because it only had one alien, no colonial marines, pulse rifles, smartguns, etc.

Also the unexplained mystery of the egg on the sulaco, and killing off newt/hicks.

Anyway, I had fun watching it. I believe they will attempt to explain how the egg got on the Sulaco in A:CM.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: newbeing on Apr 26, 2012, 06:23:26 PM

Quote from: Kol on Apr 26, 2012, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 07:27:47 AM
There's a quote from Randy Pitchford in the spanish magazine that reads literally (previous translation):

"You will like alien3 a lot more after you've played ACM".

Man that one is pathetically disrespectful towards the last and greatest alien movie we had, and tbh is souring me pretty much. Who is this guy to say such thing? lol, alien3 was already a great and beautiful movie without the need of a game featuring moronic explanations for a ROFLMAO HH survival, rhino aliens, probable spider aliens, radiation affecting which is supposed to be the perfect organism, etc.

And there are a couple of other funny things he says in the article, kinda insulting alien3 too. This Pitchford dude seems to behave like a teenager from time to time. I actually appreciate he gets excited like a kid when promoting GB games (that's a good sign coming from a person), but he really needs to control his legit excitement before this leads him to criticize things without an actual argumentary.

i think his statement regarding alien³ goes to the alien³ haters.
but i think he's one, too.

God forbid the guy have an opinion. ::) Is there an article where Gearbox said Alien 3 was a terrible movie? I don't remember reading that anywhere. Yeah they say it wasn't what people were expecting after Aliens, but despite that they seem to have a great deal of respect for it and are including elements of Alien 3, such as Michael Bishop, into the A:CM story.

I like Alien 3, but its far from a great movie when compared to Alien and Aliens. If Gearbox can work in some information that fixes some of the movie's more egregious blemishes then so be it.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: WinterActual on Apr 26, 2012, 07:10:36 PM

I don't like A3, I prefer A:R, but A3 is not a bad movie. Its just not what I imagined as Aliens' sequel. Alien 3 should be something like ACM is going to be (or lets call it "meanwhile" movie) and then Alien 4 (instead of A:R) to be a few years later with the main protagonists Ripley, Hicks and Newt (slightly older) encountering the "fear" again.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 08:27:12 PM

Quote from: newbeing on Apr 26, 2012, 06:23:26 PMGod forbid the guy have an opinion. ::)

He's not like us. He's a very important representative of a game company and should be a little more careful when he refers to others work. Not that he shouldn't give his opinion but just respect a very good piece of art like alien3 which has been part of the canon way before he's been into the franchise.

Everybody knows GB aren't precisely fans of the movie. That's ok np, but just be careful because aliens was neither the end of the franchise nor It was the only film of It. They're claiming in all directions this is going to be canon right?, we are awating the day of Its release and see what inconsistences the game has to offer too. God, all these years of bashing all friggin' day alien3 SUPPOSED inconsistences by the same part of the fanbase (always the same ones, the ones who think only "Aliens" exist" in the franchise), and now that we see things like HH being still and things like that and they just won't say a thing.

You have to respect people's intelligence a bit. We'll see what ACM ends up delivering on that. But for now?, alien3 SUPPOSED inconsistences just falter compared ACM HH survival (just a little example..., for now till the game arrives).

Quote from: Predaker on Apr 26, 2012, 06:20:31 PM
I enjoyed watching Alien 3 personally. I think it was not everyone's cup of tea because it only had one alien, no colonial marines, pulse rifles, smartguns, etc.

Also the unexplained mystery of the egg on the sulaco, and killing off newt/hicks.

Anyway, I had fun watching it. I believe they will attempt to explain how the egg got on the Sulaco in A:CM.

the egg aboard the Sulaco a mystery?, wasn't there a queen or what . She laid a couple of eggs, one for ripley and the other one that f**ked up the dog, probably a third one or more If ACM goes goes down that road.

What mystery are you talking about rofl. A queen lays eggs right?, then what's the mystery.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Ash 937 on Apr 26, 2012, 08:38:20 PM

Quote from: Mr. Runner on Apr 26, 2012, 05:28:04 PM
Bah! Everyone is picking on Alien 3 again >:(
It could be worse, this game could be tied directly to Resurrection :-X

GBX could tie Alien Resurrection to A:CM by making a mission on Fury 161 where the marines are tasked with collecting the last known blood sample of Ripley for study. Of course, they'd have to fail and the sample would have to end up in the wrong hands...thus paving the way for the storyline of Alien Resurrection 200 years in the future.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Predaker on Apr 26, 2012, 09:10:52 PM

Quote from: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: newbeing on Apr 26, 2012, 06:23:26 PMGod forbid the guy have an opinion. ::)
He's not like us. He's a very important representative of a game company and should be a little more careful when he refers to others work. Not that he shouldn't give his opinion but just respect a very good piece of art like alien3 which has been part of the canon way before he's been into the franchise.

Everybody knows GB isn't precisely fans of the movie. That's ok np, but just be careful because aliens was neither the end of the franchise not It was the only film of It. Their saying in all directions this is going to be canon right?, we are awating the day of Its release and see what inconsistences the game has too. God, all these years of bashing all friggin' day alien3 inconsistences by the same part of the fanbase, and now that we see things like HH being still and things like that and they just won't say a thing.

You have to respect people's intelligence a bit. We'll see what ACM ends up delivering on that. But for now?, alien3 SUPPOSED inconsistences just falter compared ACM HH survival (just a little example..., for now till the game arrives).

Quote from: Predaker on Apr 26, 2012, 06:20:31 PM
I enjoyed watching Alien 3 personally. I think it was not everyone's cup of tea because it only had one alien, no colonial marines, pulse rifles, smartguns, etc.

Also the unexplained mystery of the egg on the sulaco, and killing off newt/hicks.

Anyway, I had fun watching it. I believe they will attempt to explain how the egg got on the Sulaco in A:CM.
the egg aboard the Sulaco a mystery?, wasn't there a queen or what . She laid a couple of eggs, one for ripley and the other one that f**ked up the dog, probably a third one or more If ACM goes goes down that road.

What mystery are you talking about rofl. A queen lays eggs right?, then what's the mystery.

You're joking, right? How the egg got aboard the Sulaco is one of the biggest mysteries of the entire franchise, in terms of continuity. It is a hotly debated topic.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Iceycold on Apr 26, 2012, 10:38:50 PM

The egg on Sulaco isn't a mystery at all; it's merely a plot contrivance.

Alongside the the first 10 minutes of Alien 3, it's why the film is utter rubbish compared to Alien: Resurrection- though ironically A3 is much better made.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 26, 2012, 10:45:20 PM

Quote from: Ash 937 on Apr 26, 2012, 08:38:20 PM
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Apr 26, 2012, 05:28:04 PM
Bah! Everyone is picking on Alien 3 again >:(
It could be worse, this game could be tied directly to Resurrection :-X

GBX could tie Alien Resurrection to A:CM by making a mission on Fury 161 where the marines are tasked with collecting the last known blood sample of Ripley for study. Of course, they'd have to fail and the sample would have to end up in the wrong hands...thus paving the way for the storyline of Alien Resurrection 200 years in the future.

Can't tell if trollin' or not.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 11:23:56 PM

QuoteIs there an article where Gearbox said Alien 3 was a terrible movie? I don't remember reading that anywhere.

Then read between the lines. Them constantly saying 'This is the third Ailen movie everybody wanted' is dismissive the third film and pandering to gun crazy gamers.

Which is perfectly fine if that's the way they want to go. By the same token if they're oblivious to fact that Alien3 is a lot more well liked than it was 20 years ago, they're going to cop flak.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Iceycold on Apr 27, 2012, 12:36:34 AM

Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 11:23:56 PM
QuoteIs there an article where Gearbox said Alien 3 was a terrible movie? I don't remember reading that anywhere.

Then read between the lines. Them constantly saying 'This is the third Ailen movie everybody wanted' is dismissive the third film and pandering to gun crazy gamers.

I find GBX's attitude incongruent and bizarre to say the least.

One of the biggest reasons A3 was/ is hated was because of its opening. Yet, they are tying themselves in knots trying to fill in A3's plot holes (as if a videogame could even fit in with the movies' level of canonocity anyway). They are sticking rigidly to A3's continuity, when they could easily have ignored it, possibly by having "Aliens Redux" set on a sister colony.

Finally, they cheerfully dismiss Alien: Resurrection by retconning and critisicing it, despite it being better plotted, more in the style of "Aliens", and well-received.

Strange.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Apr 27, 2012, 12:40:13 AM

They aren't saying its the "real" third movie in the series. They are saying its the sequel to ALIENS in that it is more of a action horror than a thriller horror like ALIEN and ALIEN 3.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 27, 2012, 12:42:46 AM

Quote from: Iceycold on Apr 27, 2012, 12:36:34 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2012, 11:23:56 PM
QuoteIs there an article where Gearbox said Alien 3 was a terrible movie? I don't remember reading that anywhere.

Then read between the lines. Them constantly saying 'This is the third Ailen movie everybody wanted' is dismissive the third film and pandering to gun crazy gamers.

I find GBX's attitude incongruent and bizarre to say the least.

One of the biggest reasons A3 was/ is hated was because of its opening. Yet, they are tying themselves in knots trying to fill in A3's plot holes (as if a videogame could even fit in with the movies' level of canonocity anyway). They are sticking rigidly to A3's continuity, when they could easily have ignored it, possibly by having "Aliens Redux" set on a sister colony.

Finally, they cheerfully dismiss Alien: Resurrection by retconning and critisicing it, despite it being better plotted, more in the style of "Aliens", and well-received.

Strange.

As bizarre as the premise for Alien3 is, what they're doing is infinitely more so.

For all their talk of 'This is what fans wanted to see', no one ever wanted to return to Hadley because even the worst fan fic writer knew it wasn't there anymore. ;D

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Iceycold on Apr 27, 2012, 12:59:22 AM

Quote from: SM on Apr 27, 2012, 12:42:46 AM
As bizarre as the premise for Alien3 is, what they're doing is infinitely more so.

For all their talk of 'This is what fans wanted to see', no one ever wanted to return to Hadley because even the worst fan fic writer knew it wasn't there anymore. ;D

Ha! True. My main point is, they on one hand seem to dismiss Alien 3, YET they adhere to it slavishly. Whilst openly ignoring Alien Resurrection- and, as you say, to say nothing of blatantly ignoring the massive explosion at the end of Aliens itself!

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 27, 2012, 01:06:34 AM

Every video game set after Aliens/ Alien3 chooses to ignore Alien Resurrection's dismissal of Alien contact since Alien3.

It's inevitable. If I thought a video game was part of the continuity I might care. :)

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Iceycold on Apr 27, 2012, 01:18:00 AM

Quote from: SM on Apr 27, 2012, 01:06:34 AM
Every video game set after Aliens/ Alien3 chooses to ignore Alien Resurrection's dismissal of Alien contact since Alien3.

But not one of those publishers has boasted about their game being "the true sequel" to Aliens and criticised Alien Resurrection itself. GBX are being massively incongruent here. It shows how arbitrary their decision-making process really is; not a good sign.

QuoteIf I thought a video game was part of the continuity I might care. :)

To be fair, between Hadleys survival and the silly variations in the aliens- hi, Crusher!- I've lost most of my enthusiasm for this one. It's a "used at quarter of the price in a year" buy...if at all.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 27, 2012, 01:22:50 AM

I tend to agree. Even if it was the best game ever I certainly won't be shelling out top dollar for it.

But then I still haven't gotten round to buying the last AvP game and I can get that for around $20. ;D

As I've said elsewhere, if the gameplays good the story line/ excuse for the violence to begin, can be the lamest in history and I'll play it (and it could indeed be vying for that very title).

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Deathly_rYaN on Apr 27, 2012, 01:50:48 AM

Alien 3 was a fine movie, not good but fine. I understood the concept in which the directors were going except the egg thing thats all. But if another director had took the job, he/she would have possibly made it more clear for the audience. But yes, every game that has been after A3, they should not forget about Resurrection standing there...

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 27, 2012, 01:54:08 AM

They can and they will.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Iceycold on Apr 27, 2012, 03:44:23 AM

Quote from: SM on Apr 27, 2012, 01:22:50 AM
As I've said elsewhere, if the gameplays good the story line/ excuse for the violence to begin, can be the lamest in history and I'll play it (and it could indeed be vying for that very title).

However, storylines mean more and more these days, as games become more advanced. If a game's got a crappy storyline, then it'll get played, maybe ridiculed, but it'll do "ok" if the gameplays good...to a point. This, by the way, assumes its not part of a mega successful series a la Battlefield 3.

However, if a game has a solid story to go with even average gameplay, then things take off. You get a dedicated fan base. You get DLC people will buy. You get sequels.

Clearly, this is why GBX are putting so much effort into ACMs story mode- but for the life of me, I can't figure out why they've been so daft as to take this direction.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 27, 2012, 04:03:30 AM

As you may have gleaned I'm of the school of 'the story is just an excuse to start the carnage'. Most of them traditionally are pretty simple and often very derivative.

And simple isn't necessarily a bad thing. Look at Doom - monsters from Hell have overtaken you base; kill them. Super Mario - rescue the Princess by jumping a lot.

Sometimes game designers try to get too clever.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: Iceycold on Apr 27, 2012, 04:22:41 AM

I appreciate your view on gaming, but i think its fair to say its one that is falling out of favour.

For better or worse, we're living in an age of increasing sophistication. And, when it comes to gaming, that includes storytelling as well as graphics and gameplay. More and more gamers demand solid, crafted storylines to accompany the visuals and derring-do.

There is room for simplicity, but it's the current trend for multiplayer to feature the simple stuff, ie run 'n' kill. I'd argue that problems (with ACM?) aren't the developers trying to overcomplicate things, but rather showing their lack of talent and overreaching themselves.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 27, 2012, 04:27:29 AM

QuoteI appreciate your view on gaming, but i think its fair to say its one that is falling out of favour.

Oh probably. I started playing video games in the early 1980s when the 'story' was really just an 'excuse'. Even if you knew the backstory - you didn't give a shit, just show me where to shoot. And I still don't give a shit. Most of the games I own are licensed from movies - where the REAL story is. And that's where I'll go if I want a story - a movie or a book. Games are predominantly for switching off of brain.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 27, 2012, 10:50:28 AM

story in a game should be context, not content.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 27, 2012, 12:44:17 PM

Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 27, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
story in a game should be context, not content.

but they say It is canon. There the problem

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: CyberDemon13 on Apr 27, 2012, 11:07:53 PM

Quote from: escroto on Apr 26, 2012, 07:27:47 AM
to criticize things without an actual argumentary.

Oh sweet, sweet irony.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: SM on Apr 28, 2012, 07:51:02 AM

Quote from: escroto on Apr 27, 2012, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 27, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
story in a game should be context, not content.
but they say It is canon. There the problem

Not if you choose to ignore it as canon.

Title: Re: New Aliens: Colonial Marines Images
Post by: escroto on Apr 28, 2012, 08:47:50 AM

Quote from: SM on Apr 28, 2012, 07:51:02 AM
Quote from: escroto on Apr 27, 2012, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Apr 27, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
story in a game should be context, not content.
but they say It is canon. There the problem

Not is you choose to ignore it as canon.

That I do. What kind of reasonable person could accept HH survival as canonical? ;D

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