I agree with the author of the article...this book needs to be brought forth to the big screen the proper way...and technologically speaking, we now have the capabilities to pull it off...
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=6215&count=0 (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=6215&count=0)
But I'm not so sure about Peter Berg directing...has anyone seen The Kingdom? How was it?
It's had a film and a tv series. Do we need another version? I liked the book and didn't mind the Lynch film.
But is it too dense for a single film?
I think so. It is something that definitely needs an epic treatment. I don't think it is something you can pull off in a 2 hour film. I didn't mind the Lynch film or the Sci-Fi channel's mini-series...they both had their strengths, but were also a bit off as well.
Dune is one of those books, its either done right, or else don't bother. If they do another, I wouldn't mind, its not like there exists a definitive adaptation of the book.
I absoloutely hated the lynch version. What was he thinking when he made the "weirding module guns". I think the best part of the film was sting as feyd. I loved the mini-series dune and children of dune. I think alec newman was awesome as paul atreides. I'm actually reading sandworms of dune as i type this. I think sci-fi was on the right track when they made a 6 hour mini-series for each book. The books have way to much content to put into one movie. And if it was successful you'd have to try and make the other installments (aka. god emperor of dune and heretics of dune) and with how weird those books are i think you would lose a mainstream audience.
I didn't even bother watching the SciFi mini series...was it any good?
Quote from: EEV2650 on Oct 17, 2007, 06:07:50 AM
I think the best part of the film was sting as feyd. [...]
You're damn right... :D
Quote from: Gates on Oct 17, 2007, 09:51:57 AM
I didn't even bother watching the SciFi mini series...was it any good?
I liked it...that might not help you much. ;)
The special effects, costumes, and settings are a little dodgy. But overall, it is very true to the book, leaving out some minor things and taking some minor liberties. I think the way Paul Atreides was portrayed at first was a bit off, but later in the series and later with the Children of Dune mini-series it is spot on.
You can get the mini-series for less than $10 now, so definitely worth checking out. Sci-fi channel's Children of Dune mini-series was superior and much improved on their efforts with Dune...so that is also worth checking out.
Yeah okay...you closed me...I'll be ordering that as well... ;D
Quote from: Gates on Oct 17, 2007, 08:46:09 PM
Yeah okay...you closed me...I'll be ordering that as well... ;D
Well, hope you like it and we I don't lead you astray...feel free to send me an angry PM if you don't. ;D
Yeah, i know you can get the "dune: special edition" for $10 (i'm talking about the mini-series of course). I'm not sure about children of dune. But your right about the special effects and all. It was made by sci-fi channel so it's not like they had tons of money to put into special effects. What they did put their money into was good actors so that the movie would sell the message and spirit of the books to an audience. I thought Ian McNeice was perfect as vladimir harkonnen. I know in children of dune they had to recast the roles of lady jessica, duncan idhao, stilgar. I preferred dune's lady jessica over the "borg queen" lady jessica of children of dune, I liked children of dune's duncan idaho, and dune's stilgar over the children of dune stilgar (i hope everyone's still with me :))
Gates, when you get those dvd's let me know what you think.
is Agamemnon in it? i wanna see the Cymek Sex scene!
well he wouldnt be since this is the dune series and not the legend of dune series. But your right i think it would be cool to see the cymek's. Agamennon was a bad-ass and the original atreides.
yeah Juno sends shivers up my DECEE!
Quote from: fluxcap on Oct 17, 2007, 03:00:55 AM
Dune is one of those books, its either done right, or else don't bother. If they do another, I wouldn't mind, its not like there exists a definitive adaptation of the book.
Pretty much like Pratchett...
Never read or seen anything called Dune. :-[
I wish I could find the damn book, I have seen the movie but not from start to finsih, and I liked it.
I think Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson's attempts to write prequels to the Dune books and their recent attempt to conclude the Dune series...were well below par.
Never read the Anderson stuff. Were they really needed?
They keep pumping out those books like once a year. I confess to not reading any, but a friend of mine who is a Dune fan, and has read all of them, tells me Frank Herbert must be rolling in his grave every time another book is released.
I just read up on two new novels Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune which take place after Chapterhouse Dune and effectively end the original series. Curious as to what the fans think about those two. I never got past Children of Dune and probably never will.
Quote from: SM on Oct 24, 2007, 03:18:05 AM
Never read the Anderson stuff. Were they really needed?
The prequel stuff...no, not necessary. As you probably know...
Chapterhouse: Dune ended with kind of a cliffhanger and Frank was going to write a concluding Dune 7, but unfortunately, he died before starting to write it. Supposedly he left an outline, so Brian and Kevin were working off of that to conclude the series...with two books instead of one.
I must admit, I was curious since it was building off Frank's ideas...but they clearly steered it more towards their own stuff and it falls flat and is unsatisfying. Not at all how I would envision the conclusion.
I have never liked Kevin's works...I did not like his Jedi Academy Trilogy either.
Quote from: fluxcap on Oct 24, 2007, 03:58:18 AM
They keep pumping out those books like once a year. I confess to not reading any, but a friend of mine who is a Dune fan, and has read all of them, tells me Frank Herbert must be rolling in his grave every time another book is released.
I just read up on two new novels Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune which take place after Chapterhouse Dune and effectively end the original series. Curious as to what the fans think about those two. I never got past Children of Dune and probably never will.
Yeah, tossing and turning in his grave for sure.
If you liked
Children of Dune, I think
God Emperor of Dune is the pinnacle of the series.
Heretics of Dune is probably the weakest, but
Chapterhouse: Dune was a step back in the right direction.
Quote from: Fitzley on Oct 24, 2007, 05:12:53 AM
If you liked Children of Dune, I think God Emperor of Dune is the pinnacle of the series. Heretics of Dune is probably the weakest, but Chapterhouse: Dune was a step back in the right direction.
My friend told me the exact same thing. I have a copy of
God Emperor of Dune but its been quite a while since I read the first three books. If I read it, I would feel obliged to read the first three again to re-entrench myself into the Dune lore. It's unfortunate but in the past couple of years I've found it really hard to give books a dedicated read. I usually read a few chapters, then read a few more like four months later. One day I'll read all the Dune books in the original series, even the poor final two that were recently released just cause I'm a completest.
Well, it was rumored on Aint It Cool months back and now, Berg confirmed to MTV that he is re-making "Dune" again (third time the story will be told on-screen).
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/12/21/confirmed-peter-berg-will-direct-dune-talking-with-tom-cruise-about-edwin-a-salt/ (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/12/21/confirmed-peter-berg-will-direct-dune-talking-with-tom-cruise-about-edwin-a-salt/)
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CONFIRMED: Peter Berg Will Direct 'Dune'
Published by Josh Horowitz on Friday, December 21, 2007 at 4:59 pm.
Ladies and gentlemen, the next huge sci-fi franchise has a director. During an interview with "The Kingdom" director Peter Berg, he confirmed the rumor that "Dune" is coming and that he's the one that will helm it. Calling the plans for him to direct "a done deal," Berg told me that "if it weren't for the writer's strike, we'd be in it right now."
Berg says that while there's no script yet, they have a list of writers they plan to go out to once the strike settles. The helmer called himself "a huge fan of the book" and when asked about the scale of the film, he simply replied, "big big big."
As any fan of the Frank Herbert classic knows, "Dune" received the big screen treatment once before in a divisive David Lynch film. Berg said that while he's "a big fan of Lynch," he believes "that interpretation has left the door wide open for a remake."
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To this day, I still pine for the lost Dune. That is, the one with Giger on board doing designs, and directed by Ridley Scott.
Of course, if that had happened, we wouldn't have Blade Runner, so I guess I'm better off the way things are. :)
http://www.cinematical.com/2008/03/18/dune-remake-on-the-way-third-times-the-charm/
NO, why are they remaking this great movie?!! >:( I remember seeing the David Lynch version on TV a few years ago and it was good. Why remake it? ???
hmmm with the tech today it could be awesome.if they are sensible and do it right.
Dune was great, its going to have to be an excellent remake to pull it off.
Would it be easier to do a lord of the rings type situation, and make each book of the original dune trilogy into its own movie? Ive never read the books, and dont know if much was lost in translation.
They only made a miniseries a little while back.
I don't mind this remake, if done right, it could be great. Lynch's Dune is hardly a masterpiece, but still a decent flick.
I would just want to see more of the worms, and of that spice traveler floating in that huge tank. Was that thing really a human at one time?
I thought the original was really good very strange though. Not to sure about the remake I dont really see any point to it because the original seemed to capture the book quite well. It had good visuals for its time.
A new Dune movie is coming out in 2010. I'm about as big a Dune fan as I am of the Alien series.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1160419/
the original novel came out in 1965
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they made a 1984 movie that was kind of bad
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several years back the Sci Fi channel released two miniseries based on the novels
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hope the 2010 movie is going to be good
Quote from: magical_boy on May 15, 2009, 03:43:21 AM
A new Dune movie is coming out in 2010. I'm about as big a Dune fan as I am of the Alien series.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1160419/
the original novel came out in 1965
http://www.suvudu.com/suvudumedia/Dune.jpg
they made a 1984 movie that was kind of bad
http://www.impawards.com/1984/posters/dune_ver1.jpg
several years back the Sci Fi channel released two miniseries based on the novels
http://www.scifi-review.net/images/Dune-miniseries.jpg
http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/Dune/Images/Dune-Children-DVD.jpg
hope the 2010 movie is going to be good
Oh, heck. I didn't get into 'DUNE' originally, but I hope it doesn't get adapted to cater for a teenie-bopper audience.
The director cut of Dune was pretty good.
I liked the David Lynch version.
J*sus Christ, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I love the Original David Lynch film. I love the books to, Dune is my second favorate film of all time (Alien movies comming first of course!) The Sci-fi channels mini series was lame as hell. I New film is a bad idea. If they design it anything like the mini series they are goign to kill it big time, they should leave it alone.
First Concept Art: http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/headlines/temp/temp2299.jpg
I must say, I like a good number of those designs. Hope this'll turn out well.
Ugh.
Ugly designs. They don't beat the classic Sandworms by any means.
Hell, just have Lynch's film and nothing else.
Some French fool is directing it, and not Jodorowsky. I pity the fools hyping it :x
I'd prefer it if sci-fi channel made 'God emperor of dune' instead.
There are plent oftopics on this remake, but I choose this one, only because I clicked on it.
Anyway, this film isn't going to happen.
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=21065&count=0 (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=21065&count=0)
woohoo, i didn't see the point in them making it to be honest, i'd much rather whoever it is get off their arses and make Hyperion!! theres even a script drafted by the author himself
Legendary buys film and TV rights to Dune (http://www.slashfilm.com/legendarys-dune-movie/)
We need a proper adaptation, Legendary. Don't cock it up.
John Goodman for Baron Harkonnen
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/811721103924023296
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 22, 2016, 02:13:21 AM
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/811721103924023296
Please work out. :o
When I first saw Dune, I didn't have the faintest idea what it was about. Spice and worms and Christ knows what. Years later I read the book, loved it and could appreciate the film more.
That said - it's ripe for a proper screen adaption.
It's a Great David Lynch movie; but it's a long way away from what a definitive version of 'Dune' for the big screen should be. I'm thinking it should be something along the lines of Jackson's 'The Lord of the Rings' Trilogy where just about all the right beats are present in terms of design, dialogue, editing and so on... There's very little in terms of presentation with those 3 movies that needs amendment.
Lynch's 'Dune' was a more personal movie - like just about all of Lynch's movies (and television). His personal touch is great when it's using completely original content - there's nothing quite like it - but it's the kind of style that's not in tempo when he is relying on well known source material like 'Dune'.
Looking forward to seeing this new version happen.
-Windebieste.
Lynch's Dune is pretty good, it's like if he directed Star Wars. Best enjoyed under the influence. :P
Quote from: SM on Dec 22, 2016, 04:40:02 AM
When I first saw Dune, I didn't have the faintest idea what it was about. Spice and worms and Christ knows what. Years later I read the book, loved it and could appreciate the film more.
That said - it's ripe for a proper screen adaption.
Same. I think I watched it with my Dad a long time ago because it Patrick Stewart in it and I've been a Trekkie since birth. I picked up the book on a whim about 6 years back and just f**king loved it. Probably my favorite sci-fi book so far. I watched Lynch's and managed to enjoy it more because of the book. I did struggle through the Sci-Fi Channel mini-series sequel though. I never read any of the other books. I remember Vulhalla saying they were terrible.
Now this new I'm pretty excited about. I really enjoyed Arrival and Blade Runner is looking promising.
Would have been really interesting to see Ridley Scott's take on Dune especially after seeing all those amazing desert landscape shots in The Martian and Prometheus.
After directing Alien, Scott actually worked on a Dune film for De Laurentiis for approximately 7 months before he bailed-out due to his elder brother's untimely death. Only got as far as the first draft though. I think he wanted to split-up the story into 2 separate films as well. He had also reputedly retained Giger as a production illustrator from Jodorowsky's failed attempt.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 22, 2016, 04:57:49 PM
Would have been really interesting to see Ridley Scott's take on Dune especially after seeing all those amazing desert landscape shots in The Martian and Prometheus.
After directing Alien, Scott actually worked on a Dune film for De Laurentiis for approximately 7 months before he bailed-out due to his elder brother's untimely death. Only got as far as the first draft though. I think he wanted to split-up the story into 2 separate films as well. He had also reputedly retained Giger as a production illustrator from Jodorowsky's failed attempt.
The screenwriter has said he wanted to insert an incestuous relationship between Paul and his mother. I wonder how Ridley would have responded to that. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 22, 2016, 04:57:49 PM
He had also reputedly retained Giger as a production illustrator from Jodorowsky's failed attempt.
Yes, that's where these came from:
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Reportedly, Giger was an admirer of David Lynch (he thought "Eraserhead" was closer to his sensibilities than his own movies) and wanted to work with him on the next attempt, but Lynch thought Giger's style was too popular at the time and wanted to go for something fresh.
So, yeah, Giger and Lynch were very close to having worked together :).
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 23, 2016, 12:39:04 AM
The screenwriter has said he wanted to insert an incestuous relationship between Paul and his mother. I wonder how Ridley would have responded to that. :laugh:
Ridley seemed ok with his first draft, don't know if that particular bit of artistic license was added in yet? But it wouldn't have surprised me if Ridley wanted to veer wildly away from the book like he later did with Blade Runner/Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.
All I can find is:
"In a seven month period Rudolph Wurlitzer came up with a first draft of the script which I felt was a decent distillation of Frank Herbert's book." - Ridley ScottQuote from: Ephemer Nine on Dec 23, 2016, 01:21:40 PM
Yes, that's where these came from:
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Reportedly, Giger was an admirer of David Lynch (he thought "Eraserhead" was closer to his sensibilities than his own movies) and wanted to work with him on the next attempt, but Lynch thought Giger's style was too popular at the time and wanted to go for something fresh.
So, yeah, Giger and Lynch were very close to having worked together :).
Interesting, yeah I can imagine Giger admired Lynch for his surrealist style. Giger would have been ideal for designing everything related to the Harkonnens and creatures such as the worms and navigators.
Dune is one of my favourite books ever. Please make it happen.
Looks like he got the job:
QuoteArrival director Denis Villeneuve is confirmed to direct a new adaptation of #Dune
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/826814337117462528 (https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/826814337117462528)
I hope they faithfully adapt the weirding modules.
Jordonofsky I feel would have just made a complete incoherent mess. The man is an artist at heart and has an eye for visuals, but he could not tell a narrative to save his own life.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 01, 2017, 05:37:43 PM
I hope they faithfully adapt the weirding modules.
How about the skull atop the Harkonnen castle?
That skull is okay.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 01, 2017, 04:30:26 PM
Looks like he got the job:
QuoteArrival director Denis Villeneuve is confirmed to direct a new adaptation of #Dune
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/826814337117462528 (https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/826814337117462528)
Fantastic news! Really dug Arrival and Blade Runner is looking good. Maybe we'll have Denis on Alien: Covenant 2 or 3 after Dune is done? :P
Villeneuve is really great at directing actors. Also very good at drama and thrillers. But I haven't seen much in the way of "world building" from him yet. Blade Runner 2049 so far looks more like a sequel to that Total Recall reboot from a few years back rather than a sequel to the film that set the bar for science-fiction production design 35 years ago.
And Dune is really about the world.
From what I remember his films have all been quite tightly focused though. He hasn't needed a massive amount of world building. I'm willing to give him the chance on Blade Runner to see what he's like.
Yeah, they also take place in contemporary settings, so no real need for designing new cultures, architecture, vehicles, fashions etc.
Dune is going to be a bitch though. It's so dense and complex. It really needs to be split up into two or three movies or risk ending up getting distilled to such an extent that those who haven't read the book would be completely lost. Like what happened to Lynch's version.
Cannot believe it but it's really happening. One of my favourite books ever.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 02, 2017, 04:33:10 PM
Yeah, they also take place in contemporary settings, so no real need for designing new cultures, architecture, vehicles, fashions etc.
Dune is going to be a bitch though. It's so dense and complex. It really needs to be split up into two or three movies or risk ending up getting distilled to such an extent that those who haven't read the book would be completely lost. Like what happened to Lynch's version.
Chase Palmer's script from a few years back managed to get a lot done in only 120-ish pages. There were only one or two places where it stumbled.
I already got tired of the original story being remade... but I would really love God Emperor of Dune being made into a movie.
Fantastic news, this should finally give me the needed motivation to start reading the book.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 02, 2017, 04:33:10 PM
Dune is going to be a bitch though. It's so dense and complex. It really needs to be split up into two or three movies or risk ending up getting distilled to such an extent that those who haven't read the book would be completely lost. Like what happened to Lynch's version.
Lynch made his movie in 1984 which was ... suicidal at that time. They didn't have enough money for it. Special effect looked cheap. Moreover, Lynch said it was a nightmare. He didn't have final cut and creative freedom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdNdqBdLf5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdNdqBdLf5I)
But you are right,
Dune is going to be a bitch. It's bloody complex. They need at least 200 million to make it or even more. And the pressures's gonna be immense but Denis will deal with it. I hope.
Back in time Ridley Scott was going to be the original director of
Dune but due to his brother's death he left the project and ... directed
Blade Runner. Now Denis is making
Blade Runner sequel and
Dune. The funny thing is that
maybe without Jodorowsky's unfinished
Dune we might not have had
Alien. Dan O'Bannon, who was special effects supervisor on
Dune, was inspired by Giger's work. Strange world.
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Feb 05, 2017, 12:54:19 AM
Fantastic news, this should finally give me the needed motivation to start reading the book.
You really should. It's fantastic.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 05, 2017, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Feb 05, 2017, 12:54:19 AM
Fantastic news, this should finally give me the needed motivation to start reading the book.
You really should. It's fantastic.
I know I'm just being lazy.
Denis Villeneuve:
QuoteI was able to do 'Blade Runner' thinking I would do nothing after, because there was a rhythm in the past few years that was very exciting and I learned a lot as a filmmaker. But I got slowly a bit more and more tired physically. And as I was doing 'Blade Runner,' which was a very long shoot, I remember thinking, 'That might be my last movie. I'm going to bed for like three years.' Now that I'm editing, I'm finding back my energy. And since I was 12 years old there was a book I read, which is 'Dune,' which is my favorite book, with '1984.' After 'Prisoners,' the producer of Alcon asked me what I would like to do next. I said, 'Dune,' spontaneously, that if anyone could get me the rights for 'Dune' — and I knew it was very difficult to get those rights. For me it was just a dream, and I guess I'm lucky that Mary Parent from Legendary got the rights and offered it to me. I can't say no to that. I have images that I am haunted by for 35 years. I will not say no to that. That's going to be the project of my life.
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/blade-runner-2049-denis-villeneuve-dune-details-1201984308/
Oscar-winning scriptwriter Eric Roth to pen the script. Roth has written films like Forrest Gump (won Oscar), The Insider, Munich or The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
http://www.empireonline.com/people/denis-villeneuve/eric-roth-write-dune-denis-villeneuve/
Oh well Roth :P
Stone me for saying this on a Prometheus board but i actually think Lindelof could write a decent Dune script (even better if hed stick closely to the dialogues of the book).
Anyway, i think were in for a far more grounded approach on the subject this time, and hiring Roth seems to be in line with that.
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 22, 2017, 09:44:31 PM
Stone me for saying this on a Prometheus board but i actually think Lindelof could write a decent Dune script
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Lindelof spent the entirety of the Prometheus script wanking about how "Beautiful" Elizabeth Shaw was instead of writing decent dialogue.
He'd devote entire paragraphs to describing Chani's tits.
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Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 22, 2017, 09:44:31 PM
Stone me for saying this on a Prometheus board but i actually think Lindelof could write a decent Dune script
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Lindelof spent the entirety of the Prometheus script wanking about how "Beautiful" Elizabeth Shaw was instead of writing decent dialogue.
He'd devote entire paragraphs to describing Chani's tits.
Sounds like he'd fit right in with the miniseries.
Quote from: skhellter on Apr 22, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 22, 2017, 09:44:31 PM
Stone me for saying this on a Prometheus board but i actually think Lindelof could write a decent Dune script
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Lindelof spent the entirety of the Prometheus script wanking about how "Beautiful" Elizabeth Shaw was instead of writing decent dialogue.
He'd devote entire paragraphs to describing Chani's tits.
;D
Buuuuut i said he should stick closely to the dialogue presented in the book. Its all there, you just have to rearrange for imax experience --
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjliYiijvb8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjliYiijvb8)
One of my favourite books and one of my favourite directors. He's gonna nail it.
I love the 1984 movie - not because it's a good movie version of the book; it's not.
I love it because it's a great David Lynch movie. Completely messed up in soooo many ways that only Mr. Lynch can deliver.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: windebieste on Jul 28, 2017, 11:07:10 AM
I love the 1984 movie - not because it's a good movie version of the book; it's not.
I love it because it's a great David Lynch movie. Completely messed up in soooo many ways that only Mr. Lynch can deliver.
-Windebieste.
The book is so dense. You could make A TRILOGY from that book.
That's the problem with the David Lynch movie. It so needed more time. Lynch cut so many scenes. Originally it was an Epic of 4 HOURS of screentime.
Not hard to visualise as a trilogy. Properly speaking, the book itself is 3 distinct parts: 'Dune', 'Muad'dib' and 'The Prophet' - all contained within a single cover. 'Dune' is 3 books in 1.
-Windebieste.
I agree the Lynch film is a bit messy but id be surprised if Villeneuve will be able to deliver shots in the league of this one (of many):
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If he hires Roger then yes.
I think it can be done in one, it just needs to get a close to three hour run time. The one script draft I read of a recent attempt managed to get all the pieces in place and explain things well enough.
And it looks like Denis has already gotten images on that level in the 2049 trailer.
Dunno, Dune is full of iconic shots for me. Cant say the same about the 2049 trailer, but well see.
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 29, 2017, 12:01:07 AM
Dunno, Dune is full of iconic shots for me. Cant say the same about the 2049 trailer, but well see.
I agree. Roger Deakins is a legend but he is a little overrated. His last good movie was SKYFALL.
Oh, hell. Lynch's 'Dune' is a stylish wonder and great to watch but I never really felt it adequately represented in a visual sense what appears in the book. It's like Lynch stamped his visual style - which is always f**king amazing whenever he applies it - but didn't consider whether or not it synchronised well with Herbert's vision.
I really hope Villeneuve can pull this off. Hell. A proper 'Dune' trilogy based on the original 3 part book - something like what Jackson did with 'The Lord of the Rings' - would be more than welcome.
The technology is now available to truly bring the book alive. Hell. Lynch's 'Dune' is amazing - for a movie that relies a lot on conventional compositing, suspended miniatures and perspective tricks. ...but a new version would need the story front and center and not just become another festival of CGI graphics.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: windebieste on Jul 29, 2017, 12:29:16 AM
Oh, hell. Lynch's 'Dune' is a stylish wonder and great to watch but I never really felt it adequately represented in a visual sense what appears in the book. It's like Lynch stamped his visual style - which is always f**king amazing whenever he applies it - but didn't consider whether or not it synchronised well with Herbert's vision.
I really hope Villeneuve can pull this off. Hell. A proper 'Dune' trilogy based on the original 3 part book - something like what Jackson did with 'The Lord of the Rings' - would be more than welcome.
The technology is now available to truly bring the book alive. Hell. Lynch's 'Dune' is amazing - for a movie that relies a lot on conventional compositing, suspended miniatures and perspective tricks. ...but a new version would need the story front and center and not just become another festival of CGI graphics.
-Windebieste.
Villeneuve is very old school. More like David Lynch in that regard. I doubt he could make a huge trilogy like Peter Jackson did. Jackson uses a lot of CGIs too. Villeneuve usually avoids CGIs.
I can see this Project going ahead. Scott at one point wanted to make 'Dune'. I can see this happening under the Scott Free banner, just like the new 'Blade Runner' movie. By the way, speaking of Villeneuve - and trilogies - is 'Blade Runner 2049' going to be part of a series of movies? Is that known yet or not..?
-Windebieste.
If they made a trilogy out of the first book alone, I'd have to wait even longer to get a Dune Messiah film. :-\
Quote from: windebieste on Jul 29, 2017, 01:06:30 AM
I can see this Project going ahead. Scott at one point wanted to make 'Dune'. I can see this happening under the Scott Free banner, just like the new 'Blade Runner' movie. By the way, speaking of Villeneuve - and trilogies - is 'Blade Runner 2049' going to be part of a series of movies? Is that known yet or not..?
-Windebieste.
That's the plan. They want a sequel of Blade Runner 2049.
Quote from: Brian Herbert
@DuneAuthor
Eric Roth is writing screenplay for DUNE, working closely with director Denis Villeneuve, and they are in consultation with Herbert family.
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/899355355624361985 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/899355355624361985)
Quote from: Brian Herbert
@DuneAuthor
No spin. It will be faithful to the classic novel.
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/899357239273635845 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/899357239273635845)
https://twitter.com/filmdialogueone/status/909805928362512385 (https://twitter.com/filmdialogueone/status/909805928362512385)
Wonder who's gonna play main cast.
Just keep Kevin J. Anderson far away from this.
At least the director of Battleship and Hancock is not going to direct it.
Peter Berg is now the director of Lone Survivor, Deepwater Horizon, and Patriots Day.
https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/913176406493765632 (https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/913176406493765632)
Mmm... wonder if Villeneuve will direct this next. He mentioned Dune was still a long way off in a recent interview. Daniel Craig also wants him to direct the next Bond movie.
Excited about this. Really like the dune series. Both the new and the original stuff. Yes they have very different vibes, but I can just picture the films that could be made from the entire series...
After watching the new Blade Runner i'm more convinced than ever that DV would be the best choice for a new Dune movie.
K's interrogation scenes gave me heavy Dune vibes (associative logic, stream of consciousness etc):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns0zMcV8Zyg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns0zMcV8Zyg)
Bond after Dune.
QuoteThe thing is I don't now about that, but listen," Villeneuve says. "Daniel Craig is a very inspiring actor and I had some contact and the thing is that I'm busy right now doing 'Dune.' But, I will say to have the privilege to work with him it would be a dream. I would love to work with Daniel and a Bond movie for me would be a treat. It's a matter of timing, I guess.
https://theplaylist.net/denis-villeneuve-james-bond-but-dune-20171109/
Jajajajajajajayes
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Hope BRs BO performance has no negative influence on Dunes budget. Cant see them realising this adequately under 180m. And then it will most definitely be PG13. :P
Quote from: kwisatz on Nov 09, 2017, 09:07:21 PM
Hope BRs BO performance has no negative influence on Dunes budget.
I think it's safe to say there won't be a three-hour-long, R-rated, big budget Dune after 2049's performance.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 09, 2017, 09:32:55 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Nov 09, 2017, 09:07:21 PM
Hope BRs BO performance has no negative influence on Dunes budget.
I think it's safe to say there won't be a three-hour-long, R-rated, big budget Dune after 2049's performance.
I think i could live with a 2:20/2:30 PG13 Version. We already got the Lynch version for the weirdness and the kinky violence.
Then again BE2049 was R-rated, right? For what lol? It was FSK
12 over here in Germany...
And PG 15 in UK and most European countries.
https://movieweb.com/blade-runner-2049-box-office-bomb-losing-80-million-dollars/
Blade Runner 2049 lost 80 Million USD.
Only way I would be interested in a Dune remake is if Jodorowsky got to do it. I like David Lynch's version too.
Jodorowsky, how old is this guy 150?
DV is fine, though my head would explode if they actually had the balls to give the project to someone like Joanathan Glazer. :o :-X
Quote from: Fitzley on Oct 17, 2007, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: Gates on Oct 17, 2007, 09:51:57 AM
I didn't even bother watching the SciFi mini series...was it any good?
I liked it...that might not help you much. ;)
I actually liked it more than the feature film.
The sci-fi series were great. There were two of them which cover 3 books. I think the time for them has finally came around to be redone though.
Now I am actually a hard core fan though. I am 3 books away from having read all the combined original and expanded universe books.
As I understand, Brian Herbert has a new and much better strategy for making this series happen. He is going to have comic books and graphic novels made. He will do the original novel and also Dune:House Atreides as graphic novels, to be expanded upon with other novels. It should be some awesome stuff...
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbr.com/brian-herbert-dune-graphic-novel/amp/
First draft of the script has been completed:
Quote from: Frank HerbertWe have the first draft of the DUNE screenplay from Eric Roth. I am working on it day and night, consulting closely with Kevin. We expect to send our comments to Legendary by this weekend. Lots of good stuff in the script, and things to be tweaked. I'm happy to be involved.
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/928527656001314816
(https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/928527656001314816)
This could actually be good but if they try the franchise route to rival Star Wars (like the original Dune did) they might not get it right.
Not every Dune fan likes the expanded universe, but I for one love it, and it features a rich, rich tapestry of intrigue that spans millennia. It is also very visually oriented. The first few novels would easily play like Transformers films with the Cymeks and the synchronized worlds. It would work very well on screen I think, perhaps even better than the original Dune story itself.
Kevin J. Anderson has access to the script... be afraid. Be very afraid.
Why does everyone seem to have such a hate-on for this guy? I read most of the new Dune books. They're good fun. It is a different writing style to Frank Herbert, but the sheer universe building is unprecedented in its complexity as far as I can tell, and it all holds together very well.
Quote"David Lynch did an adaptation in the '80s that has some very strong qualities. I mean, David Lynch is one of the best filmmakers alive, I have massive respect for him," he said. "But when I saw his adaptation, I was impressed, but it was not what I had dreamed of, so I'm trying to make the adaptation of my dreams."
"It will not have any link with the David Lynch movie," he added Villeneuve. "I'm going back to the book, and going to the images that came out when I read it."
https://theplaylist.net/denis-villeneuve-dune-blade-runner-2049-20171116/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 15, 2017, 02:26:02 AM
Why does everyone seem to have such a hate-on for this guy?
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 15, 2017, 12:41:52 AM
The first few novels would easily play like Transformers films with the Cymeks and the synchronized worlds.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 20, 2017, 03:59:34 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 15, 2017, 02:26:02 AM
Why does everyone seem to have such a hate-on for this guy?
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Nov 15, 2017, 12:41:52 AM
The first few novels would easily play like Transformers films with the Cymeks and the synchronized worlds.
Right, I see your point. But the Butlerian Jihad against the machines was Frank's idea not his son's. how exactly would you expect a war against machines to look like? Your issue is with Frank Herbert not his successors.
As long as I get big damn sand worms kicking ass then I'll be happy :laugh:
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/954405696602279936
I'm looking forward to see this more than I was looking for BR2049.
Carrying over conversation from the Star Wars thread...
Maybe push the ending of part one to the fight with Jamis, establishing Paul and Jessica's place among the Fremen. Of course two movies means I have to wait even longer for a proper Dune Messiah film...
Yea thats posible too of course.
I think Pauls fight with Jamis would make for a really good opener though. On the other hand it would be a nice arrangement to end both "parts" with a head-to-head combat.
I really wonder how they would handle the whole shapeshifter angle in a possible Messiah adaptation. Confusing stuff for the average movie goer there.
There's the big moment when the Tleilaxu present the face dancers to Paul as a big show piece. That could be used as short hand for the audience. I'm more worried about how they'll dramatize the tangled web of backstabbing and plotting from Children.
It will be even better when we get to the scene where two 5(?)-year-old twins discuss the pro and contra of coupling to further maintain their own blood line. :D
I am totally up for getting the prequels filmed. Really enjoyed those. I know some fans did not, but whatever. Some continuity gaffes aside, they were great. Game of Thrones in space mixed with transformers! Awesome!
I'd watch everything anyway.
Butlers Jihad alone would prob make for a great HBO series. Get Ronald B. Moore on board and i'd be hyped even more.
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 23, 2018, 12:41:45 AM
It will be even better when we get to the scene where two 5(?)-year-old twins discuss the pro and contra of coupling to further maintain their own blood line. :D
I believe they were 9, if I remember right. The miniseries got around that by making them teens. Which reminds me, I'm kinda sorta disappointed we never got to see McAvoy play a giant worm guy.
Ah ja, 9 sounds about more right.
GoT had the same problem and no one cared. Sting didnt exactly look like 15-17 lol.
Making the worm look convincing would be a huge challenge.
And neither Kyle MacLachlan.
And it would have been on SyFy, so doubly difficult. The first miniseries did the desert with piles of sand in front of backdrops. :laugh:
Ja, i vaguely remember their design choice and execution for the guild navigators uh...
Think Giger would definitely be a good direction for every designer who starts looking for inspiration for Leto Worm:
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Especially that back view silhouette on the left side.
This one might be even better:
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It actually looks like it could be inspired by the book. I doubt Giger read it though, but maybe someone told him about.
Giger didn't read the book. The book read Giger.
;D
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Feb 23, 2018, 11:50:43 PM
Giger didn't read the book. The book read Giger.
;D
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Although in all fairness to Giger, I think the only person on that project who actually read the book was Jodorowsky himself... according to one source, at least. He supposedly read through the whole thing in a single overnight sitting at a cafe or something.
QuoteAlthough in all fairness to Giger, I think the only person on that project who actually read the book was Jodorowsky himself...
But even that was kind of after the fact. When Jodorowsky originally told Michel Seydoux (the producer) he wanted to do Dune next, he hadn't actually read it yet. :laugh:
QuoteDuring Denis Villeneuve's Master Class in Montreal yesterday, the director suggested that his project for #Dune had a good chance of being in 2 films ("4 years of my life" according to him).
https://twitter.com/JeanneLods/status/968128227293171712 (https://twitter.com/JeanneLods/status/968128227293171712)
QuoteI've seen 2 drafts of the Dune screenplay, and Kevin and I made comments on each. It's getting better and better. Lots more is going on, and I'll say more when I can.
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/969802638341521409 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/969802638341521409)
It's happening.
https://twitter.com/ThePlaylist/status/972146244326797312
jaJAA
Brian Herbert is doing a Twitter Q&A over the next few days. There's a bit more about the film in the top tweet although he is understandably very sketchy on the details. A comic book adaption and a new video game is also in the works.
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/980198381946466304
(https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/980198381946466304)
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/975822310098665472 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/975822310098665472)
Dreamed i was watching DVs Dune last night.
I think stylistically it was a mix of Sicario and Caligula. :D
hype
I just discovered Paul Chadeissons involvement in BR. Hope hes part of the design team of Dune too. Because fantastic artist.
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Villeneuve says pre-production on Dune is expected to start "soon".
https://twitter.com/TalkFilmSoc/status/994291654969344000 (https://twitter.com/TalkFilmSoc/status/994291654969344000)
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 02, 2018, 05:04:21 PM
Dreamed i was watching DVs Dune last night.
I think stylistically it was a mix of Sicario and Caligula. :D
Considering your username you might be on to something.
Bring it! Love Dune...
I'm getting that itch to re-read...Really looking forward to this!
Villeneuve confirms that his Dune will be two films but says it won't be filmed concurrently like Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy. Problem is of course if the first one bombs badly (like 2049) we'll never get to see the second half.
Quote"Eric Roth wrote the first [#Dune] draft, and I worked on my side afterward. I have not had such fun on the creative side since Incendies! My wish would have been to make both films at the same time, but it will be too expensive. We will do them one at a time." - Denis Villeneuve
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/994663060223811585 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/994663060223811585)
I have read and loved the first book. The second book (Messiah) was a real downer though after all the prophecies about the upcoming Butlerian Jihad.
The David Lynch version wasn't bad and I am definitely looking forward to this new version.
I always wanted to have this:
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http://www.foliosociety.com/book/DFH/dune-frank-herbert
It's 'only' £75.00 :)
Quote from: Wweyland on May 11, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
I have read and loved the first book. The second book (Messiah) was a real downer though after all the prophecies about the upcoming Butlerian Jihad.
The David Lynch version wasn't bad and I am definitely looking forward to this new version.
The second one basically went all Game of Thrones. Amazing book, possibly my favorite in the series overall.
Also, I can't believe this is really happening. It might even turn out good as long as they minimize the influence of the hacks Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson.
Quote from: Ingwar on May 11, 2018, 10:02:18 PM
I always wanted to have this:
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http://www.foliosociety.com/book/DFH/dune-frank-herbert
It's 'only' £75.00 :)
Granted it's expensive for a book, it's still not bank breaking. It sure does look pretty though!
Yeah, it looks amazing. I'm gonna buy it one day. It's worth its price. Dune is one of my favourite books.
I have the 50th anniversary edition. Though there's nothing special or new about it that I can see apart from the cover.
And more info from Brian Herbert:
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996510938206384128
(https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996510938206384128)
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996625002651795456 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996625002651795456)
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996567613659467776 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996567613659467776)
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996513942473068544 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996513942473068544)
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996526227677560832 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996526227677560832)
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996567044479856640 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996567044479856640)
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996518918104625152 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/996518918104625152)
"I keep writing drafts to improve them." Uh, Brian, that's kind of the whole point of writing drafts. :laugh:
....shut up, Brian.
And i'm not really happy about the plan to split this up into 2 movies....
Just do one 3 hour long movie...
Blade Runner was a flop and i'm afraid that this will be, too.
(and we'll never see that 2nd film).
One of the major complaints about 2049 was it's runtime. I don't think Villeneuve & Co. will be making that mistake again.
I like the idea of making two movies out of the first book despite the risk. The 1984 film was condensed to such an extent no-one who hasn't read the book really knew what was going on.
"Several of the characters in Dune are psychic, which puts them in the unique position of being able to understand what goes on in the movie" - New York Times
I wonder where they will end the first film though. Maybe with Paul & Jessica flying the ornithopter off into the sandstorm? Kind of a cliff-hanger ending.
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1008080703945207808
Hopefully Brian Hackbert is just excited about the cash and isn't actually "contributing" to the movie.
At some point, all the hate and vitriol hurled at Brian Herbert becomes trite. It's as if fans keep perpetuating some consensus that was reached long ago by other fans. There's no originality of thought in the constant lambasting and it makes it difficult to read about the Dune topic with the incessant negativity.
Dune might begin filming in February next year. Looks like the soundstage part of filming will be done in Hungary.
https://twitter.com/OmegaUGround/status/1017488063843524608 (https://twitter.com/OmegaUGround/status/1017488063843524608)
There is nothing in the desert, and no man needs nothing. ;D
Seriously, excited for this. Reading Dune again now.
Yeah, I'm gonna do the same. It's been a while since I read it.
So what the problem with this brian guy that i keep hearing about? Been wanting to read dune but it seems like it might be an overwhelming read.
There are some subtle inconsistencies between Brian's books and his father's series. For the life of me I can't recall them and they have very little impact on the overall story. When you have something so epic that spans so many novels, mistakes are bound to occur, but their negligible. The writing is a bit more simplistic too, but not by a vast margin. Some people just like to troll because that's what trolls do. I read almost all of the old and new series with 2 books left, and the young Herbert and Kevin J Anderson did a pretty decent job.
Quote from: frenchfries on Jul 13, 2018, 09:14:02 PM
So what the problem with this brian guy that i keep hearing about? Been wanting to read dune but it seems like it might be an overwhelming read.
It's not overwhelming, just dive in. Also, just for your information, the second one is secretly kind of the best book in the series. The issue with Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson that 1. their books suck and 2. they claim they based them on notes left behind by Frank Herbert, but have never proved it because it's an obvious lie.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 14, 2018, 01:17:14 AM
There are some subtle inconsistencies between Brian's books and his father's series. For the life of me I can't recall them and they have very little impact on the overall story. When you have something so epic that spans so many novels, mistakes are bound to occur, but their negligible. The writing is a bit more simplistic too, but not by a vast margin. Some people just like to troll because that's what trolls do. I read almost all of the old and new series with 2 books left, and the young Herbert and Kevin J Anderson did a pretty decent job.
"Subtle inconsistencies" lmfao. Here's a subtle inconsistency for you: At the end of Chapterhouse, Daniel and Marty are directly stated to be Facedancers, yet Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Hackerson turn them into f**king machines in their novels :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: . Also, the quality of their writing is several orders of magnitude below Frank Herbert's. I remember trying to read book number seven and had to quit at a point where all out of the blue we get some shit like "Duncan Idaho, I am the Oracle of time" :laugh:
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1018993684224905216
I've no idea what he's like. Anyone seen him in anything?
Haven't seen him in anything but he looks like I would envision Paul (at an early age).
Really looking forward for this set of films and I truly hope they're filmed back to back, even from purely an economic standpoint.
And I really hope for the "Star Wars for adults" mood, I hope to see a living world with a unique visual style. Dune really lends itself to it...
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jul 17, 2018, 02:11:54 PM
Really looking forward for this set of films and I truly hope they're filmed back to back, even from purely an economic standpoint.
Quote from: Denis Villeneuve"My wish would have been to make both films at the same time, but it will be too expensive. We will do them one at a time." - Denis Villeneuve
That tells me we will only probably have 1 film with no completion. Sigh
Another addition to the film:
QuoteOscar-Winning 'Blade Runner 2049' VFX Supervisor John Nelson Joins Villeneuve's 'Dune'
https://twitter.com/OmegaUGround/status/1018988889388847105 (https://twitter.com/OmegaUGround/status/1018988889388847105)
Quote from: tleilaxu on Jul 15, 2018, 06:28:58 AM
Quote from: frenchfries on Jul 13, 2018, 09:14:02 PM
So what the problem with this brian guy that i keep hearing about? Been wanting to read dune but it seems like it might be an overwhelming read.
It's not overwhelming, just dive in. Also, just for your information, the second one is secretly kind of the best book in the series. The issue with Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson that 1. their books suck and 2. they claim they based them on notes left behind by Frank Herbert, but have never proved it because it's an obvious lie.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 14, 2018, 01:17:14 AM
There are some subtle inconsistencies between Brian's books and his father's series. For the life of me I can't recall them and they have very little impact on the overall story. When you have something so epic that spans so many novels, mistakes are bound to occur, but their negligible. The writing is a bit more simplistic too, but not by a vast margin. Some people just like to troll because that's what trolls do. I read almost all of the old and new series with 2 books left, and the young Herbert and Kevin J Anderson did a pretty decent job.
"Subtle inconsistencies" lmfao. Here's a subtle inconsistency for you: At the end of Chapterhouse, Daniel and Marty are directly stated to be Facedancers, yet Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Hackerson turn them into f**king machines in their novels :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: . Also, the quality of their writing is several orders of magnitude below Frank Herbert's. I remember trying to read book number seven and had to quit at a point where all out of the blue we get some shit like "Duncan Idaho, I am the Oracle of time" :laugh:
Honestly, I barely even remember who those characters were. It's such a big sprawling series.
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Quote from: skull-splitter on Jul 17, 2018, 02:11:54 PM
Really looking forward for this set of films and I truly hope they're filmed back to back, even from purely an economic standpoint.
Quote from: Denis Villeneuve"My wish would have been to make both films at the same time, but it will be too expensive. We will do them one at a time." - Denis Villeneuve
Funny, it's considered cheaper to do it back to back.
The only way it can be done is sort of hybrid: shoot all the practical stuff, finish one film, release, finish the other film.
This better not bomb...
The casting of Paul is great! haven't read the book but based of what I know he looks the part. The actor has done a lot of indie movies and is really good.
I'm just glad we have a Dune where everyone won't be calling an obviously grown ass man a boy.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 17, 2018, 07:41:03 PM
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Quote from: frenchfries on Jul 13, 2018, 09:14:02 PM
So what the problem with this brian guy that i keep hearing about? Been wanting to read dune but it seems like it might be an overwhelming read.
It's not overwhelming, just dive in. Also, just for your information, the second one is secretly kind of the best book in the series. The issue with Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson that 1. their books suck and 2. they claim they based them on notes left behind by Frank Herbert, but have never proved it because it's an obvious lie.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 14, 2018, 01:17:14 AM
There are some subtle inconsistencies between Brian's books and his father's series. For the life of me I can't recall them and they have very little impact on the overall story. When you have something so epic that spans so many novels, mistakes are bound to occur, but their negligible. The writing is a bit more simplistic too, but not by a vast margin. Some people just like to troll because that's what trolls do. I read almost all of the old and new series with 2 books left, and the young Herbert and Kevin J Anderson did a pretty decent job.
"Subtle inconsistencies" lmfao. Here's a subtle inconsistency for you: At the end of Chapterhouse, Daniel and Marty are directly stated to be Facedancers, yet Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Hackerson turn them into f**king machines in their novels :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: . Also, the quality of their writing is several orders of magnitude below Frank Herbert's. I remember trying to read book number seven and had to quit at a point where all out of the blue we get some shit like "Duncan Idaho, I am the Oracle of time" :laugh:
Honestly, I barely even remember who those characters were. It's such a big sprawling series.
It's pretty significant considering the evolved Facedancers were supposed to be the big baddies of the Heretics/Chapterhouse arc. Not sure if Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson were simply too stupid to understand what Frank Herbert wrote, or if they just didn't care, but they decided to disregard all that and just make the big bad enemies robots instead. It's hard to see how Frank Herbert's "notes" could've lead them this way though.
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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 17, 2018, 04:26:04 PM
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Really looking forward for this set of films and I truly hope they're filmed back to back, even from purely an economic standpoint.
Quote from: Denis Villeneuve"My wish would have been to make both films at the same time, but it will be too expensive. We will do them one at a time." - Denis Villeneuve
Funny, it's considered cheaper to do it back to back.
The only way it can be done is sort of hybrid: shoot all the practical stuff, finish one film, release, finish the other film.
This better not bomb...
One would think so considering that it was the reason Peter Jackson filmed the LotR trilogy back to back (with post production spread out over the three year release window).
But reading between Villeneuve's lines, it's probably the studio that's scared stiff of filming two big movies simultaneously and then having it bomb hard like 2049 or the Lynch version.
But if the first film does well then it might be good since it would give the actor who plays Paul a couple of years to age like in the novel. Transitioning from a boy into a man he could theoretically do the first film with a bit of extra body weight (as a waterfat offworlder) and then rip himself to shreds for the second one (after living among the Fremen for years with their harsh life).
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1021269122691182601 (https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1021269122691182601)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 17, 2018, 08:27:36 AM
I've no idea what he's like. Anyone seen him in anything?
Timothy Chalamet is fantastic in a movie named Call Me By Your Name and he has a small but good role in the film Hostiles which released last year.
https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/1037491374189248512
Princess Irulan maybe?
too old for Irulan.
Probably playing Jessica (a more interesting lead role).
Yes, Irulan never really becomes that interesting and she's not the material for Chanee. (Prob misspelled that)
She'd be good for Jessica.
Sure.
Good choice.
Agreed. I checked out a few of her films back when she was still in talks to play Daniels in Alien Covenant. Very lovely and talented.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 06, 2018, 01:12:13 AM
She'd be good for Jessica.
She probably will be since they say she will co-star with Chalemet who will play Paul.
I liked her in Life. Didn't know she was Swedish.
I thought her and Alexa Davalos were the same person until today. I was arguing with my girlfriend the other day while watching Life she was the same actress from The Man In The High Castle. I can't let her know she was right...
A sign I'm probably going senile.
I see there's a rumour going around that Jake Gyllenhaal will possibly play Duncan Idaho.
Not sure where the rumour originated from so take with a grain of salt for now.
(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/film/Southpaw/jakegnewyork-xlarge.jpg)
Does he get paid extra per ghola? :laugh:
Deakins exits
Dune.
QuoteOne of the most highly anticipated upcoming tentpoles officially has a cinematographer attached: Greig Fraser is set to work with Denis Villeneuve on his ambitious "Dune" remake. The "Arrival" director is planning a two-part movie. Variety's awards editor Kris Tapley broke the news, and IndieWire has confirmed the hiring with Fraser's representatives.
The "Dune" news is notable since it means Villeneuve won't be working with longtime collaborator Roger Deakins. Deakins has been a staple of Villeneuve's American film career, having shot "Prisoners," "Sicario," and "Blade Runner 2049." The cinematographer was Oscar nominated for all his DP efforts on Villeneuve-directed films, and he won the Oscar for Best Cinematography for his work on "2049."
Filming "Dune" is Greig Fraser, himself an Oscar nominee for his work on Garth Davis' directorial debut "Lion." Fraser's additional credits include "Mary Magdalene," "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story," "Foxcatcher," and "Zero Dark Thirty," for which he won the New York Film Critics Circle Award for Best Cinematography. Fraser's next release is Adam McKay's "Vice," in theaters this Christmas.
https://www.indiewire.com/2018/12/dune-denis-villeneuve-roger-deakins-part-ways-greig-fraser-cinematographer-1202025557/
I read that as Villanueve leaving and I got so scared. Deakins is still a big loss, that man is a genius. The guy they got is still good though. I thought Rogue One and Foxcatcher were shot great.
Dave Bautista Joins Dune... (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/dave-bautista-dune-reboot-1203101834/)
...as Rabban. (https://twitter.com/borys_kit/status/1082390883822010368?s=21)
So glad he's reteaming with Denis. Bautista was great in 2049 even in his small role!
Funny thing about Rabban (tagging this next bit in case anyone hasn't read the book):
Spoiler
In the last chapter, someone asks where he is, and someone responds "he's dead." Both the movie and the miniseries created entirely different deaths for the character. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 08, 2019, 12:11:01 AM
Dave Bautista Joins Dune... (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/dave-bautista-dune-reboot-1203101834/)
...as Rabban. (https://twitter.com/borys_kit/status/1082390883822010368?s=21)
Awesome! That's a good fit.
Maybe we'll see a bit more of Rabban's rule over Arrakis.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 08, 2019, 12:11:01 AM
Dave Bautista Joins Dune... (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/dave-bautista-dune-reboot-1203101834/)
...as Rabban. (https://twitter.com/borys_kit/status/1082390883822010368?s=21)
Bautista does look like a "beast". :laugh:
Stellan Skarsgard cast as Baron Vladimir Harkonnen (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/stellan-skarsg-play-villain-legendarys-dune-1174870)
Good choice.
I don't know. He may be too skinny for the role. Either that means an unhealthy weight increase at his age, or an insane costume with make-up. It could look bad. Anyway, staying optimistic.
He needs to borrow the Allfather's fat suit from Preacher. ;D
Spoiler
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Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jan 10, 2019, 02:49:33 AM
I don't know. He may be too skinny for the role.
Don't see an issue :)
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Stellan's got charisma and can be damn cold and evil. Just watch
The girl with the dragon tattoo.
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1085323667741921280
Mohiam. :) And now I really want that Dune Messiah movie.
This cast is pretty good so far. Getting more excited for this movie.
It will for sure not be a blockbuster wide appeal flick and I'm all for it. I loved Blade Runner 2049.
Just realised that Jon Spaihts co-writes Dune. I have bad feelings about this.
Huh, I thought it was just Eric Roth (with some input from Brian Herbert) who wrote the script?
Where did you read this Ingwar?
QuoteDenis Villeneuve has tapped his frequent collaborator Joe Walker as the Dune editor. This marks the French-Canadian director's fourth collaboration with Walker in a row, after they've worked together on Sicario, Arrival, and Blade Runner 2049.
Dune has long been a passion project for Villeneuve, who co-wrote the script with Eric Roth and Jon Spaihts.
https://www.slashfilm.com/dune-editor-joe-walker/
Roth's script was supposedly something like 400 pages long, so Spaihts may have been brought in to whip it into shape.
Well, well, well...
Brian Herbert only ever mentioned Eric Roth in all his tweets about the script (up to the 4th draft).
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1090316160770498560
I love Oscar Isaac. I want him in so much more. That guy is a great actor.
Indeed. You can never have enough Isaac!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 29, 2019, 07:40:07 PM
Indeed. You can never have enough Isaac!
I don't know the Dune lore at all so I hope his role is a larger one. Isaac sometimes take these small roles and leaves an impact but I'd really like him to be apart of big movies like this in a large way.
He is amazing indeed. Keep it out Isaac! 8)
Quote from: MudButt on Jan 29, 2019, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 29, 2019, 07:40:07 PM
Indeed. You can never have enough Isaac!
I don't know the Dune lore at all so I hope his role is a larger one. Isaac sometimes take these small roles and leaves an impact but I'd really like him to be apart of big movies like this in a large way.
Leto is a pretty big presence in the first half of the book, so Isaac should be in this movie a lot.
Spoiler
Don't expect him to come back in Part 2, though.
Now I just want to know who's playing Duncan Idaho.
Glad to see him in this but I was hoping he would be playing Idaho.
I can only imagine that.
Spoiler
He'd make the version of Idaho from God-Emperor much less annoying, heh.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 29, 2019, 08:30:10 PM
Glad to see him in this but I was hoping he would be playing Idaho.
Yeah, when I saw the announcement that Oscar Isaac was going to star in the new Dune I though, brilliant - he's a shoo-in for Duncan Idaho. :-\
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Quote from: MudButt on Jan 29, 2019, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 29, 2019, 07:40:07 PM
Indeed. You can never have enough Isaac!
I don't know the Dune lore at all so I hope his role is a larger one. Isaac sometimes take these small roles and leaves an impact but I'd really like him to be apart of big movies like this in a large way.
Leto is a pretty big presence in the first half of the book, so Isaac should be in this movie a lot.
Spoiler
Don't expect him to come back in Part 2, though.
Now I just want to know who's playing Duncan Idaho.
Great to hear!
This cast is top notch.
Do we think this movie has a chance to make some money though? After Blade Runner 2049 I'd find it hard to believe that a property like this could succeed at the BO.
If it doesn't perform at the box office we're going to be left with only half a Dune movie. It's supposed to be two films.
I have a feeling that Jake Gyllenhaal will play Idaho.
Could be, he was in both Prisoners and Enemy, IIRC.
Idaho didn't really have that huge a presence in the first book. He's mostly off mingling with the Fremen in the beginning and only appears much later to help Jessica and Paul escape. His gholas in the sequel and latter books have much more prominent roles though.
Yeah, Duncan basically goes from a minor walk on role to being a central focus by the end.
QuoteAfter romancing Tom Holland in Spider-Man: Homecoming and Zac Efron in The Greatest Showman, Zendaya is being eyed to play Timothée Chalamet's love interest Chani in Denis Villeneuve's Dune reboot, multiple sources tell Collider.
http://collider.com/zendaya-dune-reboot/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social
I think she'll do nicely "looks" wise. Don't know how good her acting is, never seen her in anything before.
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For Stilgar (the Fremen leader) I'm hoping for Ghassan Massoud:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Ghassan_Massoud.jpg/220px-Ghassan_Massoud.jpg)
I think he gave quite a stellar performance in Kingdom of Heaven.
She's good in Spider-Man: Homecoming. I haven't seen her anything else but that. She was a Disney Channel actress for a long time. On her social media she always comes off as pretty entertaining but not sure how she'd do in a movie like this.
She's going to star in an HBO Drama series later this year so that will be a good indicator as to how she can handle the drama parts.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 31, 2019, 04:56:50 PM
For Stilgar (the Fremen leader) I'm hoping for Ghassan Massoud:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Ghassan_Massoud.jpg/220px-Ghassan_Massoud.jpg
I think he gave quite a stellar performance in Kingdom of Heaven.
Saladin! His performance was truly amazing.
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Javier Bardem has been cast as Stilgar.
https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/02/01/and-now-javier-bardems-joining-denis-villeneuves-dune?fbclid=IwAR3Q2HlcsmNHAEY8TmhtkNJVLFCZMh_mb98PqgWDVIcIvlcmVMD-pWfbQwA (https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/02/01/and-now-javier-bardems-joining-denis-villeneuves-dune?fbclid=IwAR3Q2HlcsmNHAEY8TmhtkNJVLFCZMh_mb98PqgWDVIcIvlcmVMD-pWfbQwA)
This damn cast man.
I'm going to have to see this for sure.
I'm super curious about who they are going to get to score this. Zimmer's work on 2049 wasn't bad but I really hope they get someone more interesting for this.
I'll always be curious about what Johansson had done on 2049 that we never got to hear before him and Denis parted ways on the project. :/
Johannson killed it on Mandy. Shame he's no longer with us.
Also, Bardem as Stilgar? "Don't touch my water, friend-o." ;D
It's getting better and better.
I'm very curious as to who will play Emperor Shaddam. And f**k, with two movies, there will be more than enough to get the Fenrings on screen.
Mmm... I'm trying to picture Javier as Stilgar.... :-\ :laugh:
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I'm very curious as to who will play Emperor Shaddam.
A pity Salvador Dali is no longer among us.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2019, 09:31:59 PM
I'm very curious as to who will play Emperor Shaddam.
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Kyle MacLachlan
Harrison Ford as Esmar Tuek, the Spice smuggler.
Jon Bernthal for Gurney.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 02, 2019, 07:02:10 PM
Jon Bernthal for Gurney.
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1095767440221335552
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Wow! They're trying, really hard.
Every single cast announcement for this has managed to make me gleefully excited. Cannot wait for this film.
Jason Momoa is Duncan Idaho 8)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 14, 2019, 02:30:58 AM
Every single cast announcement for this has managed to make me gleefully excited. Cannot wait for this film.
Jason Momoa is Duncan Idaho 8)
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1096186626089205760
I really, really need to re-read the book.
Praise be to Aquaman. I guess that Sahara scene was practice.
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2019, 01:41:26 AM
I really, really need to re-read the book.
Aye, the book is fantastic. Just read it for the first time a few months back.
Dune Messiah was my favorite of the ones I read. I know I'm basically the only one, heh.
https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/status/1096574945721671680
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 18, 2019, 09:37:21 PM
Roth's script was supposedly something like 400 pages long, so Spaihts may have been brought in to whip it into shape.
Sounds like it, according to this recent interview.
Quote from: Eric RothDune was a real challenge; Denis Villeneuve brought me on. I had done some little bits of stuff for him for Arrival, and we really love each other personally. I turned in a really long draft, which I think was pretty cumbersome to make within the budget. I think the ideas were great, and I think they used most of them, but that needed a good look. I think Denis has...brought in another writer to trim it out, and get back to the book in some respects, so I think it's exciting. The approach to it's pretty wonderful, and it could be a beautiful movie.
https://deadline.com/2019/02/a-star-is-born-eric-roth-bradley-cooper-oscars-interview-1202555552/ (https://deadline.com/2019/02/a-star-is-born-eric-roth-bradley-cooper-oscars-interview-1202555552/)
When will we see props of the new weirding modules?
I'm looking forward to Brolin charging into battle with a pug, myself.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2019, 06:53:33 AM
When will we see props of the new weirding modules?
That's an infernal Lynchian device! >:(
Okay then, what about the heart plugs? Can't wait to see Villeneuve's take on those.
I have to see Lynch movie again. It's been decades since I saw it.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2019, 10:15:32 PM
Okay then, what about the heart plugs? Can't wait to see Villeneuve's take on those.
I don't remember those in the book, though it's been a while since I read it. If it's not in the book, it likely won't be referenced. It would be just a Lynch device.
Lynch's film is fascinating in that it is a bad movie, and even worse adaptation, and absolutely fascinating to watch. Somehow it manages to completely miss the point of absolutely everything in the book, and yet make no sense at all unless you have read the book.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 18, 2019, 01:23:33 AM
Lynch's film is fascinating in that it is a bad movie, and even worse adaptation, and absolutely fascinating to watch. Somehow it manages to completely miss the point of absolutely everything in the book, and yet make no sense at all unless you have read the book.
True. True.
Jeeze the trailer is going to end with one of those long cast lists in silver text and I'm going to be in shock of the talent attached to this movie.
https://twitter.com/heroichollywood/status/1098012205444943873
Quote from: MudButt on Feb 18, 2019, 06:38:27 PM
Jeeze the trailer is going to end with one of those long cast lists in silver text and I'm going to be in shock of the talent attached to this movie.
inb4 Daniel Day-Lewis is mocapping the sandworms.
Javier Bardem:
QuoteThe most important thing is that I love Denis, since Prisoners. What a luxury! He asked me if I would ever be interested in being part of Dune. Are you kidding? How much do I have to pay? It's one of those blessings that you have in this amazing, blessed life that I happen to have: having a job that I love, and make a living with, and also work with people that I truly admire and respect, and I'm getting inspired by it. It's a lot.
I read the first three books, and, of course, I saw David Lynch's film. I'm going to be turning 50 on March 1st, so I saw David Lynch's film, which I loved. I remember the day I saw it in 1984, I think, and it was weird! And I loved it! It was big and weird, and those sandworms!
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2467302/why-javier-bardem-is-excited-about-joining-denis-villeneuves-dune
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1107416327239548928
Production has begun!
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190318005491/en/Cameras-Roll-Warner-Bros.-Pictures-Legendary-Entertainment%E2%80%99s (https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190318005491/en/Cameras-Roll-Warner-Bros.-Pictures-Legendary-Entertainment%E2%80%99s)
Studio filming at Origo Film Studios, Budapest, Hungary:
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Sounds like the desert location shooting will be done in Jordan. The Wadi Rum I suppose? Ridley Scott's backyard:
(https://www.rcrusoe.com/filebin/images/Countries/Jordan/Jordan_WadiRum960x450jpg.jpg)
The Zimmerman will apparently compose the score:
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1107671649191645184 (https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1107671649191645184)
Stephen Henderson has also joined the cast, as per the link stating that production has begun. Doesn't say who he is playing, but if I had to guess, probably Thufir Hawat.
Goose will be playing Thufir's cat. ;D
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvKWJtfAIfa/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BvKWJtfAIfa/)
This movie has the most amazing cast. Love Stephen Henderson. He was excellent in Fences.
Really excited to see this! Especially for the production design
Instagram post by the Dune make-up designer that has since been deleted:
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QuoteJosh Brolin is doing prep for #Dune in Budapest he says the fighting is "more refined" and the trainers who were in France with Timothée are martial arts experts.
https://twitter.com/chalametsaoirse/status/1106635375899041795 (https://twitter.com/chalametsaoirse/status/1106635375899041795)
Looks like they are now off to film in Jordan:
QuoteSuch a humble man he was and a joy to speak with. Have a safe flight and see you in Jordan if fate allows
https://twitter.com/arshed_elahi/status/1109421757889499136 (https://twitter.com/arshed_elahi/status/1109421757889499136)
Gurney Halleck:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvU3Qlxg2TV/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BvU3Qlxg2TV/)
Quotejoshbrolin
"What has mood to do with it? You fight when the necessity arises — no matter the mood! Mood's a thing for cattle or making love or playing the baliset. It's not for fighting." — Frank Herbert, Dune
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@legendary #dune #denisvilleneuve #cowboyup
Quite a lot of secrecy surrounding this production. Not much news aside from filming that is currently taking place in Jordan. Photograph by one of the crew members:
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While the brand new ARRI ALEXA Mini LF's are being used in this production:
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1111628293596422144 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1111628293596422144)
I can see that terrain working very well for a sietch. Hopefully they film in a sandy, classical looking desert for other bits.
Yeah, Saudi Arabia has some amazing ergs. I once flew over their dune-sea, it's like flying over the middle of the Atlantic except instead of water waves it's just sand dunes as far as the eye can see in every direction up to the horizon. Jordan is much more rocky though.
Apparently there is also a huge sandstorm in Jordan as I type this.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1111985343962775554 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1111985343962775554)
Petra, Jordan:
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https://twitter.com/DUNEFAN2020/status/1114551576444776448
Awesome that they've started. I thought they were still in deep pre-production.
According to Brolin's Instagram, he is indeed in Jordan filming.
Yeah, there's been reports from various sources that they are currently filming in Jordan.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 18, 2019, 06:13:45 PM
Sounds like the desert location shooting will be done in Jordan. The Wadi Rum I suppose? Ridley Scott's backyard:
(https://www.rcrusoe.com/filebin/images/Countries/Jordan/Jordan_WadiRum960x450jpg.jpg)
Looks like they got permission from Riddles to film in the Wadi Rum:
QuoteGreig Fraser (Director of Photography) and Gerd Nefzer (SFX) were both at Wadi Rum today. Some serious Wadi Rum action going on for #DUNE in Jordan. Greg called it "possibly the most stunning place on earth..." #WadiRum #Jordan.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1114573970848796677 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1114573970848796677)
I love this Brolin guy!
Quote from: Josh BrolinI was contacted by certain people to watch my P's and Q's around revealing the setting and uniqueness of this epic film based on the Frank Herbert novel "Dune". Even though I was on my own travels and nowhere near the set, it was, indeed, in a desert. I am leaving Jordan tomorrow so I can't continue anyway. That said, it's almost always in my mind to post whatever the f**k I want as long as it doesn't impede on how well the story is told and the beauty and uniqueness with which it is being filmed.
Josh Brolin, top tier.
His attitude is pretty balanced.
Its freakin happening.
Skarsgard as the Baron is great, i guess Harvey Weinstein wasnt available. Hes not that fat tho but they can always compensate with facial disfigurement, i guess... hi Mr. Lynch:
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51otaFtNR-L.jpg)
Brolin is cool too of course, but a bit obvious for my taste. Like what about him for example:
Spoiler
(https://media.giphy.com/media/OVtqvymKkkcTu/giphy-facebook_s.jpg)
Chalamet is damn near perfect. MacLachlan couldve done it again, but hes a tad too old now -__-
Rebecca Ferguson as Jessica is ok (i guess well see anyway). I have a hunch that i keep preferring Francesca Annis, she got something so reserved yet powerful in the Lynch version that always gives me creeps. Shes perfectly directed there too.
That Drogo guy plays Duncan? Thats a bit meh for me. But it doesnt matter.
Yea, i cant wait, obviously --
QuoteJason Momoa in Jordan as Duncan Idaho. Great to see him highlighting the issues of plastic pollution and raising awareness for recycling. Jason Momoa is shaving his beard, for a good cause. It looks like we will be getting a fresh look for Duncan Idaho too for #Dune
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1118751081062912006 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1118751081062912006)
#WadiRum
QuoteStilgar and Duncan together! Great to see Jason Momoa and Javier Bardem with their looks for their Dune characters for the first time. #JasonMomoa #JavierBardem #DuncanIdaho #Stilgar #Dune
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Dafuq is going on in these pictures. Jason transfering the pattern of his tattoo onto Javiers pants? The hands/arms cronenberging in the second --
Might this guy be involved after all?
Spoiler
(https://www.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/styles/half/public/image/jodorowsky-alejandro-001-at-mic.jpg?itok=NWPkxiNL)
Bardem looks like a werewolf :)
They do look the part though, Stilgar is supposed to have a black beard, although Duncan Idaho was described as having "tight curly black hair".
They should give Jodorowsky the part of the Emperor. He's an actor as well. :)
Jodorowsky wouldve made a great Stilgar back in the day.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FoFbET.jpg&hash=2c10675beb0c2107670eb89f47e11f78453d2939)
Spacey wouldve been my favourite choice for the Emperor, but yea that pob wont happen... :(
QuoteJodorowsky wouldve made a great Stilgar back in the day.
Indeed!
Quote from: Secrets of DuneDUNE 'Set' Rumours: These were taken a week ago. Locals say it's Star Wars related, but may be #DUNE. There are similarities to Rise of Skywalker trailer, but that's likely shot weeks prior. A possible Timothee Chalamet, Rebecca Furgason, Zendaya or Javier Bardem shoot day.
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Wouldn't Charles Dance make a good Shaddam IV?
Mayhap
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Lonesome crowded desert over there.
This thread is about a new film adaptation of that book I recommended to you.
Now i get it, Dune and Dune.
Thought it just a coincidence, like its the case with that shitty C-monster-movie by uberhack Fincher and the philosophical challenging arthouse classic by Sir Ridley Scott!
All the location filming in Jordan has now officially wrapped. Back to Budapest.
Another shot of one of the locations:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5KX_wGWsAAT0Dw.jpg)
Miniseries went to Prague, this goes to Budapest. Maybe in fifty years there'll be a new adaptation that shoots in Bratislava or Vienna. :laugh:
Not exactly Dune type scenery but it's probably because it's cheaper to film there. A Dollar can buy a lot more there and countries like Hungary often offer attractive incentives and rebates.
First look at set construction at Origo Film Studios, Budapest, Hungary:
https://twitter.com/whmullally/status/1123246256980135938 (https://twitter.com/whmullally/status/1123246256980135938)
QuoteI'm in Hungary, I've stumbled upon the DUNE set under construction, and Denis Villeneuve just walked by
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5aSgpTXoAAi1Pu.jpg)
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QuoteDUNE 2020 RUMOUR: Gloria Obianyo from 'Good Omens' may have a role in Dune. This is her in Jordan and she is followed by most of the Dune crew including Zendaya.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1123251112566566912 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1123251112566566912)
Hungary, Hungary ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pnec4Hxps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pnec4Hxps)
Josh Brolin talks Dune on the Jimmy Kimmel show. He's still a bit miffed about being called out for taking pictures of sand. :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DJXfYdhJdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DJXfYdhJdU)
Shortcut to the Dune bit:
https://youtu.be/2DJXfYdhJdU?t=2m45s (https://youtu.be/2DJXfYdhJdU?t=2m45s)
From a Rebecca Ferguson interview in Total Film Magazine:
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Who's he playing again? The Duke?
Josh Brolin? He's playing Gurney Halleck.
Stellan Skarsgard talks playing Baron Harkonnen:
QuoteYou also signed on to play the villain in Dune. What made you want to be a part of that? Had you been a fan of the original film, or the novel?
SKARSGARD: No, I wasn't. I actually just recently read the novel, which is a very good novel. But I've been a fan of Denis Villeneuve for quite awhile. It's also a fun character to play. I don't have to shoot that many days, but I have to spend six to eight hours a day in make-up. That makes it really hard, but interesting.
What's it like to act through all of that?
SKARSGARD: If you work with good prosthetics people, the main thing that's important is that your eyes are free to express themselves, and also that the material you're working with makes it possible for you to physically express yourself, with your body.
What kind of villain is Baron Harkonnen, in this version of Dune?
SKARSGARD: He's a pure villain. He doesn't show any remorse, or any good sides. I usually don't like dividing the world into the good guys and bad guys because I think it's an illusion, since most of us have a little of both in us. But I would say that this is a bad, bad guy.
Is there a freedom in that, when you're playing a character where there really is no doubt about who he is?
SKARSGARD: It's a cartoonish way to look at somebody, but at the same time, he's very human, in some ways. His actions are just absolutely horrendous.
What do you think will most surprise fans about this particular take on the material?
SKARSGARD: I don't know. It's a very long novel, and it's really hard to compress into film because usually, it's short stories that are better to make films out of. So, some might be disappointed that some of their favorite things are no longer in the story, but I also think they will be fascinated by Villeneuve's way of visualizing that world that they have had in their mind for so long. And there are a lot of good actors that can be very pleasant to watch.
http://collider.com/stellan-skarsgard-interview-chernobyl-dune/#dune
8 Hours a day in make-up? That's some heavy prosthetics work then. Tim Curry as Darkness in Legend level makeup.
The Baron was pretty much a bad, bad guy in the book as well. But he was also quite fallible and vulnerable at the same time.
I wonder what these "favorite things that are no longer in the story" are?
IMO, they should have cast Brendan Gleeson or Jared Harris as Gurney.
Hype for this.
I wonder if he's down to make sequels.
That'll depend upon reception and profit, of course.
If only they had filmed Part 1 and 2 back to back. Sure, it will allow Chalamet to age in synch with the book's time skip, but this could easily be another acclaimed flop for Denis.
At least it will drive book sales through the roof if the first film flops. :laugh:
First look at Oscar Isaac as Duke Leto I:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6598LoWkAES03F.jpg)
For the father, nothing!
I wouldn't mind them taking some inspiration from Schoenherr (again).
Spoiler
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Babs Olusanmokun (third degree Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt) has been cast as Jamis (the hotheaded Fremen who challenges Paul to a knive duel).
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7CuoPTX4AARlyR.jpg)
Paul Bullion cast as a Sardaukar (the Emperor's SAS) soldier.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcxZfufxzCo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcxZfufxzCo)
https://twitter.com/DUNEFAN2020/status/1134124439346585601 (https://twitter.com/DUNEFAN2020/status/1134124439346585601)
Thanks for the Twitter link. This is shaping up quite nicely! I read the novel in 1978 and with each cinematic iteration, another piece slips into place.
Quote from: Ingwar on Jun 02, 2019, 07:08:28 PM
https://twitter.com/DUNEFAN2020/status/1134124439346585601 (https://twitter.com/DUNEFAN2020/status/1134124439346585601)
Interesting, though it doesn't look like they have the logo itself finalized yet.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D704KaSXsAA1WFv.jpg)
Dune: The Sisterhood TV series to accompany the film. Denis is directing the pilot.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1138197551348408320
Can't wait to see the gom jabbar!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 10, 2019, 10:49:12 PM
Dune: The Sisterhood TV series to accompany the film. Denis is directing the pilot.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1138197551348408320
Saw that this morning. That surprised me! Wasn't expecting them to branch out before the film actually came out.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 11, 2019, 08:15:40 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 10, 2019, 10:49:12 PM
Dune: The Sisterhood TV series to accompany the film. Denis is directing the pilot.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1138197551348408320
Saw that this morning. That surprised me! Wasn't expecting them to branch out before the film actually came out.
Gives me hope that they are feeling very optimistic about the film.
I am a bit worried about Jon Spaihts' involvement, but even still, color me very excited for the show.
I wonder if Dune could potentially become the next big
thing post GOT. The source material is fantastic (I still have to read books 4-6, but I loved 1-3), the world is intriguing, and there is a lot of politicking and scheming and, of course, sandworms. It now sounds like WB's plans extend well beyond simply adapting the first book.
It's sounds like Spaith was only involved in trimming down the original script. Kinda the opposite of his role in Prometheus. His earlier Prometheus drafts had some good bits though.
Not so sure about Dune becoming the next GoT, it's probably a bit too "weird" for most mainstream audiences, but you never know. Most likely it will perform similar to the previous two Dune TV series'.
WB probably have big plans if the first movie does well. Take for example Duncan Idaho, he's barely in the first book so casting Jason Momoa (someone that's currently very hot in Hollywood) seems like a waste unless you're planning to delve into the sequels where he becomes a main character.
Incoming from left field!!! Awesome! Looking forward to to this. I read all of the prequels. I k ow some people dislike them but I really enjoyed them. Hope they all get turned into one long GOT style series. There's a lot of heady stuff in there..
Jason finished filming his part in Dune.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BymdVkZA7jh/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet (https://www.instagram.com/p/BymdVkZA7jh/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet)
1)
Let's hope they bring out the strong FEMALE EMPOWERMENT message inherent in the book, with those POSITIVE ROLE MODELS for little girls. You thought Captain Phasma was a positive role model, eh? Just you wait! This isn't 1965 nor is it 1984 any more!
2)
Is anyone expecting to hear the word 'JIHAD' uttered in this movie?
:D
QuoteIs anyone expecting to hear the word 'JIHAD' uttered in this movie?
I don't need it to be uttered explicitly but for sure I'm hoping for some kind of (LSD)sequence depicting a vision of an army of religious fanatics cleansing the universe in merciless ways.
Might even work as a closing scene for Part One.
I admit this kind of portrayal could have been a bit problematic say 2-3 years ago with the IS peaking, its nonetheless a crucial part of the book.
Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 17, 2019, 09:28:57 PM
QuoteIs anyone expecting to hear the word 'JIHAD' uttered in this movie?
I don't need it to be uttered explicitly but for sure I'm hoping for some kind of (LSD)sequence depicting a vision of an army of religious fanatics cleansing the universe in merciless ways.
Might even work as a closing scene for Part One.
I admit this kind of portrayal could have been a bit problematic say 2-3 years ago with the IS peaking, its nonetheless a crucial part of the book.
They should go full jihad where necessary in this film. It's about the absurdity of fanatical war.
Ja, thats what i think too. Otherwise not only Pauls existential dilemma and the tragic nature of seeing but not being able to change the future would be diminished, but also the in essence fanatical motivation of his movement is in danger of being haloed, even heroised (which kinda though im sure unintentionally happened in Lynchs version).
You've learned quickly!
I read the dust cover blurb.
Spoiler
twice
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1145791175841816577
I feel a GOT style series in the works!!!
I've said it before, but I just want a great Dune Messiah movie. That and I'd like to see how the hell they'd adapt God Emperor.
I think Emilia Clarke might be a great Fremen girl. Sorry I couldn't resist :-X
Day one in the Dune: The Sisterhood writers' room today.
https://twitter.com/danascalvo/status/1148709913792667650 (https://twitter.com/danascalvo/status/1148709913792667650)
Yes!
Not sure if this is official Dune: The Sisterhood concept art or whether she just snagged it from somewhere else?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_pBU3FUYAAU8m3.jpg)
https://twitter.com/minhalbaig/status/1151304490651271173 (https://twitter.com/minhalbaig/status/1151304490651271173)
https://twitter.com/danascalvo/status/1151692056068120577 (https://twitter.com/danascalvo/status/1151692056068120577)
I guess Dune: The Sisterhood will be very much set in Villeneuve's vision of the Dune universe with both him and Spaiths actively involved in the two productions.
Spaihts makes me nervous, but I am incredibly excited to see how this whole massive undertaking - the film and the series - comes together.
Dune is easily my most anticipated film right now.
Why are they making another film? Haven't they already been there, dune that?
The other film wasn't that well received. Even Lynch essentially disowned it.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 18, 2019, 05:01:46 PM
Spaihts makes me nervous, but I am incredibly excited to see how this whole massive undertaking - the film and the series - comes together.
Dune is easily my most anticipated film right now.
I just hope the series isn't scuttled if Dune flops at the box office. I wonder if they'll wait until after the movie's release before they start shooting the series?
If the Dark Tower series can survive the movie bombing (albeit with a major retool), then Sisterhood could conceivably continue in some form/
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1154259850500554752
A couple of bts photo's taken a little earlier this year in Jordan:
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAVm4DhWsAE0hsv.jpg)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 25, 2019, 01:10:47 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1154259850500554752
Man, they literally ARE filming this one film at a time. Why?
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 26, 2019, 10:40:54 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 25, 2019, 01:10:47 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1154259850500554752
Man, they literally ARE filming this one film at a time. Why?
Probably in case of a Blade Runner 2049 situation, in case it doesn't make enough money for the studio to commit to funding the second half.
Though given that Dune: The Sisterhood has been greenlit, WB seems to have faith in the project. And spacing the films out a bit gives Chamalet a bit of time to grow, which makes sense with the couple year time jump in the book.
Some more Dune bts from the Jordan shoot:
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Possibly the new Dune logo?
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1156587612464959489 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1156587612464959489)
Rumours of a gender swap for Liet Kynes?
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1156014779627999234 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1156014779627999234)
I can't imagine why anyone thinks this is a good idea.
Doesn't really matter one way or the other to me. I would be totally fine with that.
I don't see Denis Villeneuve
altering such a fundamental aspect.
Yes, I'm baffled.
Keep in mind it's very much just a
rumour at the moment.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 25, 2019, 01:10:47 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1154259850500554752
Second unit has now wrapped as well.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA-IOmJWsAAW31E.jpg)
Apparently those stairs are part of one of the Dune sets.
https://twitter.com/AaronCouch/status/1157427325383761920
A Very Arrakis Christmas
Lots of BTS's today.
Our first look at two of the vehicles, most likely partially assembled ornithopters:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA-s4iKWsAAekiC.jpg)
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Some smoke effects at the Origo Studios backlot, perhaps simulating a sand storm?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA-4ypkXYAU_Tbg.jpg)
Villeneuve with Jason Momoa's stunt double
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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 03, 2019, 04:23:10 PM
Lots of BTS's today.
Our first look at two of the vehicles, most likely partially assembled ornithopters:
Uh i like. Reminds of this:
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It does. Where is that picture from?
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1158679601104732161
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 04, 2019, 03:38:56 PM
It does. Where is that picture from?
From what i can tell the guy seem to be a professionel concept artist/illustrator. Goes by 'Carlos NCT'.
He got some other great Dune stuff in his portfolio. I dig the balance between a more fanatasyesque approach that is kinda backed up by Herberts own insect metaphors for the vehicles and a technical/practical approach which i think DV, considering his other films and his general style, is mainly going for.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_qJaLxWsAE5Xcb.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_whOnvXkAUr4Rj.jpg)
Mmm... I wonder if he didn't work on Dune then if he does this professionally. I remember the Harvester/Spice Factory being described as "buglike" in the book, "a large tan and blue beetle with multiple legs", just like his painting.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 06, 2019, 01:33:13 PM
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1158679601104732161
I thought they already wrapped? Secrets of Dune had another rumour a while back about filming the Caladan scenes in Greece. Don't think that actually happened though.
QuoteMmm... I wonder if he didn't work on Dune then if he does this professionally.
I guess its not impossible though the two last examples i posted seem to be uploaded recently. I doubt he would act that way if he was in fact attached to the project.
Anyway he seem to be more at home in the video game sector according to imdb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8102196/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1 (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8102196/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 06, 2019, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 06, 2019, 01:33:13 PM
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1158679601104732161
I thought they already wrapped? Secrets of Dune had another rumour a while back about filming the Caladan scenes in Greece. Don't think that actually happened though.
What I took from the Tweet (
if it is true) is that the filming there had happened a while ago and the information that it had happened is just getting out.
This quote describes how Denis Villeneuve's Dune looks and feels according to John Brisgotti (CEO of GF9), who said he has seen snippets of the movie already:
QuoteDune will be "LAWRENCE OF ARABIA meets BLADE RUNNER" according to @GaleForceNine CEO John Brisgotti from descriptions he has seen.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1167773025359585280 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1167773025359585280)
That's a bold statement.
Original or 2049? ;)
On a side note: I was watching the original Blade Runner yesterday and in the Batty meeting his maker scene i had the strangest feeling as if i was watching Lynchs Dune.
Think it was a mix of the whole thing/scene, the music the lighting the dialogue the acting (the manner of speaking) etc.
Well i dunno, it was quite vivid and it never occured to me before these films may tonally be closer than i thought --
Well Ridley did move over to Blade Runner after leaving Dune, so...
Well ja... could be he already had a certain impact micromanaging the art department and generally on the whole production design. Its Ridley after all.
I wonder if Lynch had seen Blade Runner before/during directing Dune though.
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 31, 2019, 09:21:28 PM
I wonder if Lynch had seen Blade Runner before/during directing Dune though.
Good chance of that, he did cast Sean Young in a major role in his movie after all.
Have they given any glimpses of the new weirding modules yet or is that being kept a tightly-held secret?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 03, 2019, 01:22:44 AM
Have they given any glimpses of the new weirding modules yet or is that being kept a tightly-held secret?
Yeah, they were in the same leak as the heart plugs.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 03, 2019, 01:52:31 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 03, 2019, 01:22:44 AM
Have they given any glimpses of the new weirding modules yet or is that being kept a tightly-held secret?
Yeah, they were in the same leak as the heart plugs.
Some poor cat is getting milked as we speak.
They should have cast Ben Stiller as Thufir Hawat.
De Niro as the Baron.
"I have nipples Thufir, can you milk me?"
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 03, 2019, 01:57:02 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 03, 2019, 01:52:31 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 03, 2019, 01:22:44 AM
Have they given any glimpses of the new weirding modules yet or is that being kept a tightly-held secret?
Yeah, they were in the same leak as the heart plugs.
Some poor cat is getting milked as we speak.
Not if the pugs scare it off first.
It's a desert planet. Milking cats makes sense.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1169328454380281856
This is hilarious. :D
That looks like Sting from the original film. Strange that they didn't rather wait for the new film's Feud Rautha.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61iH1Fa87PL._SX385_.jpg)
NYCC is just a month away, I believe, so I guess they were just having a little bit of fun with the license now that they have it. :D
Now that I think about it, we still don't have an actor cast for Feyd...
New Feyd is still too busy showering to pose for a pop.
I could see see Charlie Plummer as Feyd --
(https://st3.depositphotos.com/1694341/17785/i/1600/depositphotos_177855124-stock-photo-actor-charlie-plummer.jpg)
Now hear me out--Tom Holland.
It could work i guess, in a Ledger/Joker type of way; i'd prefer an "unfamiliar" face though.
Honestly they could always get one of the five dozen Skarsgard kids to play Stellan's nephew.
Justin Bieber would make a great Feyd.
Well, with potential million bucks per hour acting it would at least make him the Dali of this entry. :D
I'm not really a Bieber fan, but I just think he personifies the Feyd vibe very well.
I get what you're saying (i think) but I'd prefer someone who can actually act.
Aren't Feyd and Rabban brothers? They should get someone who at least somewhat resembles Bautista, then.
Yes, but one was fit and deviously smart, while the other was fat and a bumbling, slow-witted idiot.
Is it wrong that I want to see a three way war between Houses Atreides, Harkonnen and Ordos in this?
This film may disappoint you.
Will it have as much sweat, spit and tears as Lynch's version?
Liters of Ghola sperm
You've been reading the dust covers again, haven't you?
Na, Brian Herbert happily spoils the whole movie for anyone who writes him an email.
I'd also prefer a real actor, above all else and a good one.
Story was that Frank Herbert got the name "Harkonnen" from a Californian telephone directory. He thought it sounded suitably Soviet at the time and used it for the baddies in his book. Turned out that Harkonnen is in fact Finnish.
I wonder if we'll see Feyd-Rautha's arena fight on Giedi Prime in Villeneuve's film?
https://twitter.com/ARRIChannel/status/1168802197867507717 (https://twitter.com/ARRIChannel/status/1168802197867507717)
First look at the House Atreides Hawk symbol:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFYcbWEW4AEVSRD.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFYcbWDXoAA33CR.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFYcbWGW4AA4MaK.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFYcbV_WkAMwGu-.jpg)
Wait a minute...
Spoiler
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:laugh:
Stellan Skarsgard about working with Denis:
QuoteI've always wanted to work with him partly because he's such a wonderful man, but also because he's a brilliant director. It's fun when you get one of those big sci-fi movies and you know it's going to be directed by a true filmmaker. It's not going to be directed by the studio. It seemed like they were giving him pretty free hands. And you have to, because his personal stamp on the film is paramount for the success of it.
What he's really good at is creating this strange atmosphere with his imagery and this cinematic poetry that is his trademark and that will add so much richness to the pretty simple story.
https://www.slashfilm.com/dune-details-stellan-skarsgard-denis-villeneuve/
Quote from: Ingwar on Sep 26, 2019, 09:16:43 PM
QuoteIt's not going to be directed by the studio. It seemed like they were giving him pretty free hands. And you have to, because his personal stamp on the film is paramount for the success of it.
Kind of the opposite of Dune 1984 which was basically producer driven:
Quote from: David LynchI started selling out on Dune. Looking back, it's no one's fault but my own. I probably shouldn't have done that picture, but I saw tons and tons of possibilities for things I loved, and this was the structure to do them in. There was so much room to create a world. But I got strong indications from Raffaella and Dino De Laurentiis of what kind of film they expected, and I knew I didn't have final cut.
Official Plot Synopsis for Villeneuve's Dune revealed:
https://twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1179014620079636486 (https://twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1179014620079636486)
"Only those who can conquer their fear will survive." So it's After Earth, then.
Guess it just means the Litanei will be featured prominently, which i wouldnt mind.
Gotta conquer the fear. It is the mind killer, after all.
QuoteDune is going to be "grand" and "flabbergastingly beautiful" but it's also going to feel like an indie film according to Rebecca Ferguson speaking to @KermodeMovie. Timothee Chalamet will be in his element.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1188135993435664384 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1188135993435664384)
QuoteDavid @Dastmalchian on #Dune.
"I think that the action and what's going to be achieved visually is going to be something that will leave jaws on the floor."
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1188123584344084480 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1188123584344084480)
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1190278623749660672
Quote from: The Hollywood ReporterJon Spaihts will step down as showrunner on Dune: The Sisterhood, the straight-to-series TV offshoot of the forthcoming feature film for the WarnerMedia-backed streaming service. A search is underway for a new showrunner to replace him.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1191829423810633731
I am very ok with this. Not the biggest fan of his, so I'm not going to miss him on the series, and this seems to confirm that part two of the film is moving forward, and with Denis is going to be pulling Spaihts' strings for the film so that's in capable hands.
Really excited to see how this all pans out.
Yeah, seems they have enough faith in the first part to get the ball rolling on the second part in the meantime.
I also like Rebecca Ferguson's comment about how it's "going to feel like an indie film".
Jon Spaihts? Good god!
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1205738972774838273
Quote from: Óscar Isaac via Entertainment Weekly"It's just a wholly, wholly different thing," said Isaac when EW asked how the movie compares to previous filmed takes on the material. "I couldn't imagine anyone more suited for the tone of the original Frank Herbert novels than Denis. There are some things that are — for lack of a better word — nightmarish about what you see... There's just this kind of brutalist element to it. It's shocking. It's scary. It's very visceral. And I know that definitely between Denis and myself and Chalamet and Rebecca Ferguson as the family unit, we really searched for the emotion of it. I'm beyond myself with excitement. I think it's good to feel cool, unique, and special."
https://twitter.com/EW/status/1204475731834757121
Rose the Hat having a kid with Apocalypse... damn, no wonder Paul is special.
I sincerely hope Denis Villeneuve's vision is unique from the first adaptation, I love David Lynch but not when it comes to Dune.
Science fiction is not a David lynch thing, so I second.
Not so sure. I think Lynch could create a great cosmic horror piece.
There'll always be some kind of ironic/commenting layer with him directing but i wouldn't mind.
I'd argue there's a definite science fiction angle to Twin Peaks. Just a really weird and, er, Lynchian one.
Surreal science fiction.
We're not going to talk about Judy.
Twin Peaks meets the definition of cosmic horror better than most things that claim to be, honestly.
I won't argue that.
Too bad Lynch and Giger never collaborated.
The Bowie teapot in The Return would have somehow been even weirder.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2019, 09:11:37 PM
Too bad Lynch and Giger never collaborated.
Pretty sure Lynch was made at Giger over a misunderstanding, presuming that Giger had stolen elements of the Eraserhead baby when designing the chestburster (despite Giger having not yet seen Eraserhead). Giger, who was previously attached to Jodorowsky's Dune, attempted to connect with Lynch's production when it shifted to him and never recieved a response.
Wasn't the final chestburster heavily modified from Giger's designs, anyways?
Yup.
I'm also not sure how true that statement is, though I do remember reading it a few times in the past.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 20, 2019, 08:54:33 PM
Twin Peaks meets the definition of cosmic horror better than most things that claim to be, honestly.
Ja this.
The new season probably even more so. Glass box entity and Frogmoth pretty much wipe the floor with Alien prequels bestiary.
It's been a long time since I saw FWWM.
Another "unauthorized" photograph of two of the ornithopters:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENRtJd1WwAEqqu_.jpg)
Will their wings flap?
So far this looks more like Blue Thunder 10049.
I wonder if the ornithopters will have helmet-controlled weirding modules.
With Jon Spaihts co-writing, it cannot be ruled out.
Just a reminder:
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 26, 2019, 09:49:58 PM
This thread is about a new film adaptation of that book I recommended to you.
You may want to check it out if you want to know more about weirding modules (and heart plugs).
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 03, 2020, 03:39:12 AM
Just a reminder:
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 26, 2019, 09:49:58 PM
This thread is about a new film adaptation of that book I recommended to you.
You may want to check it out if you want to know more about weirding modules (and heart plugs).
Any info on pugs in there, too?
Yeah. A little bit about milking cats too.
Heart plugs are fun and all but if i actually had the intention to reread Dune it would mainly be for the Barons acne.
I'm looking forward Villeneuve's vision of the vehicle. The bird-like designs are great though.
(https://i.imgur.com/qp5bB4R.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Hhjb5QM.jpg)
I like Herberts descriptions for all kinds of vehicles too, but i imagine it to be quite difficult to actually implement them in a more realistic approach on the book without sticking out.
We'll see though.
Edit: Actually that applies for a lot of aspects, even central ones, of the book.
Jawohl!
Isn't Hitler actually mentioned by name in one of the later books? :laugh:
It might be Messiah...
Quote from: kwisatz on Jan 03, 2020, 04:13:32 AM
Isn't Hitler actually mentioned by name in one of the later books? :laugh:
It might be Messiah...
It is indeed Messiah. Paul scoffs at the number of people that Hitler had killed, impressed that his own jihad has killed so many millions more, if I remember correctly.
Ah thanks!
I vaguely remember the whole passage not being among Herberts best writing moments.
On the other hand i always liked the subtly strewn innuendos that Arrakis might be earth.
You got all that from the dust covers?
They are more detailed in Germany!
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-1WCLzZZOw
It's not entirely inaccurate.
Anyway, when can we expect a little teaser? April?
Im not greedy though, some character pics alone would get me ready on a jihad level.
I got a chuckle out of Rise of Skywalker revealing that Poe was a Spice Runner. Like damn, Leto was smuggling on the side. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 03, 2020, 05:22:05 AM
I got a chuckle out of Rise of Skywalker revealing that Poe was a Spice Runner. Like damn, Leto was smuggling on the side. :laugh:
Hence the sandworm encounter.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 03, 2020, 05:24:49 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 03, 2020, 05:22:05 AM
I got a chuckle out of Rise of Skywalker revealing that Poe was a Spice Runner. Like damn, Leto was smuggling on the side. :laugh:
Hence the sandworm encounter.
That too. ;D
And Poe being around droids at all is funny in kind of a f**ked up way after seeing Ex Machina. :laugh:
Wasn't Poe originally supposed to die in EP7?
For the father,
Spoiler
something!
Yeah, he was supposed to die in the crash early on.
This is what happens when the movie is still nearly a year away, we end up talking about Star Wars.
:laugh:
But after just reading the News, i think I'm gonna refrain from the jihad jokes, at least for a while...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 03, 2020, 01:30:24 AM
Will their wings flap?
Possibly, the previous leaked photo showed what appeared to be ball-bearing-type joints for the wings. Although I suppose they could simply be thrusters as well, and not use wings at all. But then it wouldn't really be an ornithopher.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA-s4iKWsAAekiC.jpg)
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 03, 2020, 03:16:08 AM
I wonder if the ornithopters will have helmet-controlled weirding modules.
Have you ever considered taking up an extreme sport like base jumping, shark cage diving or big wave surfing at Nazaré?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 03, 2020, 05:22:05 AM
I got a chuckle out of Rise of Skywalker revealing that Poe was a Spice Runner. Like damn, Leto was smuggling on the side. :laugh:
I'm still hoping for a Harrison Ford cameo as Esmar Tuek.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 03, 2020, 04:47:05 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 03, 2020, 03:16:08 AM
I wonder if the ornithopters will have helmet-controlled weirding modules.
Have you ever considered taking up an extreme sport like base jumping, shark cage diving or big wave surfing at Nazaré?
As if they would let him.
My idea of excitement is eating greasy, fried food and listening to my arteries clog.
Mmm.. I suppose that will eventually do the job as well. :-\
Or you could try this at home:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftok14M5p8g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftok14M5p8g)
If Keanu Reeves ever catches me, I'll give it a try.
Definitely inclined to think that the Ornithopters will have the proper flapping wings. Based on the ball bearing structure in the set pics, it appears that the wings will likely be CGI addition to the practical vehicle exterior.
Yeah, my guess will be 4 dragonfly type wings. Might also have practical wings for when the ornithopters are on the ground and shut down.
I guess the desert-tan coloured one will probably be Atreides or one of the existing Arrakis 'thopters, while the black 'thopter will probably be Harkonnen or Sardaukar.
It'll probably be a more invisible flapping anyway. Think helicopter rotor and hummingbirds --
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEjGxLpH.jpg&hash=9daae6222eb3f96732ac514b1d2405ba768f8ab3)
What, no metal eagle undies?
At least it comes with Thufir's dairy cat. Someone at LJN actually decided that would be a suitable toy for children. God, I miss the 80s.
Oh, I thought that was one of those spoof figures like charred Uncle Owen. :laugh:
Alas, I never owned one. How is it possible that this movie didn't have legions of prepubescent fans?
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No weirding modules?
I think Paul is holding one (half of it at least).
Well spotted sir, well spotted!
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It was either that or a water boiler. And since we're on Arrakis...
In my delusional head-canon, the Space Jockeys was a Guild Navigator, with a severely mutated body, who needs the spice in order to see the future and thus; select which path will be the safest one during his space travel.
(https://i.imgur.com/xRfXSJu.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jByrA2BMOrE
>:(
You should buy a Baron Harkonnen action figure.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LJN-Dune-Baron-Harkonnen-figure-missing-belt-accessory-David-Lynch/323939681265?hash=item4b6c4f43f1:g:wO4AAOSwYpxdmhSc
(https://media.giphy.com/media/YRtRm7doVbb3kPRe8R/giphy.gif)
This year long wait is gonna suuuuuuck.
Anyone know Locals birthday and address?
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https://spaceart.de/produkte/dwp009.php (https://spaceart.de/produkte/dwp009.php)
Mein name ist ein tötung wort.
Almost: Mein Name ist ein tödliches Wort. (So much more menacing in german, isn't it?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82XqhHYwB-Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82XqhHYwB-Q)
On topic: For quite a while i only had the 180 minute TV cut as a german bootleg with the additional scenes cut in in english so that the whole thing was a constant back and worth between languages. Better than a bad mescaline trip.
Why isn't Peter Stormare in this movie and who could he play?
:laugh:
Stormare is great, even though swedish.
He could always play Nefud... or an older Jamis maybe?
The younger Stormare would've definitely been a great Harkonnen elite general or something.
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Quote from: kwisatz on Jan 05, 2020, 04:07:22 AM
Stormare is great, even though swedish.
Doesn't matter when it's Stormare, baby!
That t-shirt is awesome. :D
Kinda vindicates the hairstyle too.
Variety's box office predictors have listed Dune under "
QUESTION MARKS"
Quote"Dune" (Warner Bros.)
Release date:
Dec. 18
What Looks Strong:
Director Denis Villeneuve ("Arrival," "Blade Runner 2049") has brought his unique eye to Frank Herbert's seminal 1965 sci-fi novel, and he's assembled a killer cast to do it: Timothée Chalamet, Oscar Isaac, Zendaya, Javier Bardem, Josh Brolin, Rebecca Ferguson, Stellan Skarsgard and Jason Momoa.
Causes for Concern:
David Lynch's 1984 version of "Dune" starring Kyle MacLachlan has its admirers, but it was a box office and critical flop, suggesting that Herbert's complex and cerebral story isn't a great fit for a big budget cinematic treatment.
Verdict:
The risks here are high, but given Villeneuve's enviable track record with prestige sci-fi thus far, the rewards could be great.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/box-office-predictions-2020-hits-flops-no-time-to-die-wonder-woman-2-black-widow-1203458263/
Possibly, but it's all marketing, look at the way Blade Runner performed.
Maybe, if the first film underperforms really hard, there's some kind of Plan B to stage the second one as a much more artsy type, LSD trip like, bloated chamber drama.
Mostly leaving out the real expensive stuff like everything involving worms fighting etc
This would be unfortunate of course, but at the same not that far away from the book, which consists 75% of people in rooms talking to each other about plans within plans anyway...
As a side effect this scenario would most likely give DV even more artistic freedom than under normal circumstances, where he is determined to juggle a production this size. An aspect that pretty much destroyed Lynchs motivation for the project almost entirely.
A whole bunch of comments from someone who claims to have seen some early footage:
https://twitter.com/brianfhclement/status/1217575970313506816 (https://twitter.com/brianfhclement/status/1217575970313506816)
https://twitter.com/brianfhclement/status/1218329381426401282 (https://twitter.com/brianfhclement/status/1218329381426401282)
Quote from: Brian FH ClementI was in a work meeting today and got to see some promo/preview footage of Denis Villeneuve's Dune, and I am ON BOARD with it. I think it looks fantastic.
No finished effects in the footage I saw. Cinematography looks beautiful though.
Unfortunately she [Zendaya] was conspicuously absent from what we were shown!
Something else I'll mention re: the Dune footage we were shown: there were wide shots of a group of people I at first thought were members of the Spacing Guild, but then Rabban was among them so I think they were Harkonnens because they all had similar costumes and makeup
Yes briefly [saw Jason Momoa]! I can't say specifically but he looks different than people are used to.
We did [see worms]! I forgot to mention that.
As a follow-up re my opinion on new Dune based only on the footage I saw (since people are curious), I think this will blow people away the way LOTR did 20 years ago, the way Star Wars did 40 years ago. It's not Jodorowsky or Lynch, but maybe Villeneuve has filmed the unfilmable.
To be honest, it's not exactly how I pictured the universe of Dune when I first read the book (it never will be) but that's a good thing. I really like the look Villeneuve has created and I think it's going to be spectacular.
I'm not exaggerating when I say a lot of people will have goosebumps/tears when they see this movie (I might!). Heck, when they see the footage I saw they will.
I really didn't realize just how secret the whole Dune production has been until that tweet about seeing some footage completely blew up. Now I've been introduced to a super passionate Dune fanbase going bonkers for any info! (I'm just a guy in Canada working in the industry!)
We got no info on runtime. The only one of those characters we saw was Dr Kynes. The actor playing Kynes is not who you would expect!
The last comment has me a bit worried cause of that earlier gender swap rumour... Now compounded by this as well:
Quote from: Dune-BehindtheScenesA Russian site claims to have read a 130 page script for Villeneuve's #Dune, dated September 18, 2018.
It mentions a few scenes and a few other points including the gender of a certain character...
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1218291731868848129 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1218291731868848129)
Kynes gender swap wouldn't bother me in the slightest, honestly.
No big deal but it's still pointless though, there are plenty of strong female characters in the book. The change affects Chani as well.
Doesn't seem like a big deal at first, but it kinda contradicts the book, which clearly portrays a society inspired by a feudalistic spiritual horizon and associatons of ideas with all its patriarchal implications.
Therefore affecting one of the central themes of the book, heck it even ends on the role of "the" woman in this type of social structure.
Yeah, the Fremen are kind of based-on and descended from the Bedouin and the Bedouin being Arabs are of course fiercely patriarchal.
Women do however still play an important part in Fremen society with their Sayyadinas and they are also great warriors just like the men, but I can't really see them virtually deifying a non-Sayyadina, half Fremen and half-offworld female.
Liet Kynes was my favorite character in the book. I'm fine with a gender swap as long as the character is done justice and the actor chosen is good.
Go now. Take her to her desert. To die. ;D
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 20, 2020, 04:01:27 PM
Yeah, the Fremen are kind of based-on and descended from the Bedouin and the Bedouin being Arabs are of course fiercely patriarchal.
Women do however still play an important part in Fremen society with their Sayyadinas and they are also great warriors just like the men, but I can't really see them virtually deifying a non-Sayyadina, half Fremen and half-offworld female.
All of the above said on top so to say, cause my post wasn't actually aimed at the Fremen society but at the (medieval) Feudalism based-on Faufreluche system of the galactic empire and the Great Houses.
Kynes in the book is the representative of the emperor himself in a highly official position. I doubt a woman would ever come near such an appointment. Sure there are the Bene Gesserit, but their role is more of a sect-like entity within the social order maximally providing consultancy work, but overall acting covertly (doesn't mean they are not powerful, obviously).
And even in the end, when Paul seemingly has become omnipotent, the Faufreluche kicks back in as he decides to marry the emperors daughter out of political considerations, therefore supposedly perpetuating the old regime.
So yeah, all this considered, i can hardly see them making Kynes a woman work in the sense of being faithful to these aspects of the book. Of course one could argue these are mere background details, but think of it: the whole vendetta aspect (Art of Kanly), the political system and the relationchips of the leaders among themselves (Emperor, Leto, the Baron etc), Arrakis as a fee given to Leto by the Emperor, therefore forcing him to go, the whole dynamic between Leto and Jessica caused by the marriage/concubine problematic - all this is derivational from the social order Herbert intentionally chose as the background for this story.
Tampering with this too much would make for some easily avoided, unnecessary inconsistencies, even more so in the light of this:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 18, 2020, 03:49:25 PM
there are plenty of strong female characters in the book.
You're quite right about the Feudal society depicted in Dune, that aspect also makes gender swaps of major characters like Liet/Kynes iffy.
From the unofficial Dune-Behind-The-Scenes account:
Quote from: Dune-BehindTheScenesI've been fortunate to read what appears to be a script for Denis Villeneuve's Dune.
While I'm unable to confirm its authenticity, if it is a fake it is a good one, with some great surprises!
Sadly I'm unable to share the script, but I can answer general questions. Ask away!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOwATgkWAAARr1H.png)
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1219350678629421056 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1219350678629421056)
Some more comments about the script below:
Spoiler
- No weirding modules, but the weirding way is in it. - sorry Trouble
- Paul has met the Fremen and Chani, yes but only in the last 30 mins of script or so.
- Paul's vision of her [Chani] early on is in the script, yes.
- There are plenty of secret hand signals.
- About 130 [pages in script]. Which with credits I'd estimate to be about 2 hours 25 mins, give or take.
- Lynch levels of Caladan.
- Jason Momoa [Duncan Idaho] will be well served. More to do than Richard Jordan in Lynch's Dune.
- [Ends] after Paul & Jessica have met the Fremen by the end.
- Jamis duel towards end of script
- [Gom Jabbar] Like the novel, pretty early.
- Litany: Recited more than once.
- I thought they might have eliminated Mapes in order to streamline the script.
- He [Dr. Yueh] is in the film, played by Chen Chang.
- Feyd and the Emperor are mentioned, but not seen.
- Not mention of Irulan at all.
- Ends shortly after Jessica takes the Water of Life.
- The Baron is very clever, yes. He wears suspensors, allowing him to walk. But his ability to "fly" is important.
- The hunter-seeker scene unfolds similar to the novel.
- There is no Jessica's garden sadly (nor Fenrings), but the date palms outside the palace take their place as something Jessica wants to hold in trust for the people.
- Paul has terrifying visions of the jihad. If anything is going to push the ratings it could be the visions.
- [Gurney Halleck] Inkvine scar, present and correct!
- Hard to say about the rating. Violence and nudity could be filmed for either audience. Heck if they can do a PG-13 Deadpool version they can make a PG-13 Dune. :)
- Flapping [Ornithopter wings] is most definitely part of description.
- The 'thopter are described as having flapping wings, and while they could be designed out, the script does make use of that feature.
- There is things we haven't seen (or read) before in the script.
- There is no Harah mentioned in the script, perhaps Gloria Obianyo is actually Mapes?
- It would appear previous rumours [about Kynes] were correct....
- [Duncan Idaho is in it] A lot more than Lynch's version.
And a lot more on the comments section in the tweet above...
https://twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1222377830618714115
OH LOOK ANOTHER DESERT PLANET SCIFI
It's probably THE FIRST sci-fi desert planet.
I love that Dune logo. It's basically the same symbol used from different angles.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 29, 2020, 05:10:31 AM
https://twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1222377830618714115
Missed it... :'(
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPbBXcEX0AUoq-y?format=jpg&name=small)
So I assume it was legit if Legendary Pictures removed it? Does google cache work on twitter?
Mmm... nope, google cache can't find the old page. Warner/Legendary may be taking things a little bit too far now:
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1222540416366542849 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1222540416366542849)
https://twitter.com/cevangelista413/status/1222535001687969794 (https://twitter.com/cevangelista413/status/1222535001687969794)
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1222541706140274688 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1222541706140274688)
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1222504499320889344 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1222504499320889344)
Also bravo to Warner/Legendary's PR/legal department for alienating the fan sites that tirelessly promote their product at no cost. Well done! ::)
Anyway, here is the picture under spoiler tags in case they start threatening AVP Galaxy as well:
Spoiler
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And here is a backup that links back to another location. Does Warner/Legendary not know that once it is on the internet it stays on the internet forever?
Spoiler
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That's quite a reaction for nothing more that a bit of title art. It's cool title art but why go through all the work of having everyone take it down? It seems kinda stupid.
And it's not even imagery from the film. The background is a stock photo of the Namib desert.
#DUNC
#JUNC
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https://twitter.com/Ethan_Anderton/status/1222550669262979072 (https://twitter.com/Ethan_Anderton/status/1222550669262979072)
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1222600974969319424 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1222600974969319424)
Fan made animation: Worm-sign!
https://twitter.com/veliokulan/status/1222820215504896001 (https://twitter.com/veliokulan/status/1222820215504896001)
Quote from: kwisatz on Jan 19, 2020, 05:48:13 PM
Doesn't seem like a big deal at first, but it kinda contradicts the book, which clearly portrays a society inspired by a feudalistic spiritual horizon and associatons of ideas with all its patriarchal implications.
Therefore affecting one of the central themes of the book, heck it even ends on the role of "the" woman in this type of social structure.
It's a dumb idea, and I have a feeling she's going to be someone's love interest before al is said and done.
Stick to the book! For Pete's sake.
QuoteDUNE 2020 will open it is believed with a narration by the Bene Gesserit reverend mother, Helen Mohaim and will mirror that of MAN OF STEEL & Game of Thrones. There is a similar opening in Black Panther too.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1227612499194863621 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1227612499194863621)
QuoteI just had an AWESOME Skype call with one of the executive producers from The new Denis Villeneuve Dune movie. I'm going to be interviewing them on my channel in a few days. They've asked me to ask my audience for questions. Your best questions only guys!!
https://twitter.com/IDEASOFICE_FIRE/status/1227354238503837698 (https://twitter.com/IDEASOFICE_FIRE/status/1227354238503837698)
What did Tolkien think of Dune?
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The Art and Making of Dune [2020] is now available for pre-order:
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QuoteImmerse yourself in the world of Denis Villeneuve's Dune and discover the incredible creative journey that brought Frank Herbert's iconic novel to the big screen.
Frank Herbert's science fiction classic Dune will be seen like never before in the breathtaking film adaptation from acclaimed director Denis Villeneuve (Blade Runner 2049, Arrival). Now fans can be part of the creative journey of bringing Herbert's seminal work to life with The Art and Making of Dune, the only official companion to the hugely anticipated movie event.
This comprehensive and detailed exploration of the filmmaking process—from inception to production and postproduction—documents the story of capturing Villeneuve's vision for Dune, from its stunning environmental and creature designs to intricate costume concepts and landmark digital effects. The Art and Making of Dune will also feature interviews with key cast and crew, including extensive insight from Villeneuve. The book will be illustrated with a wealth of concept art, storyboards, set photography, and other key visuals showcasing the intensive design process behind the creation of this bold new vision.
Showcasing Villeneuve's visionary approach to realizing Herbert's science fiction classic, The Art and Making of Dune is an essential companion to the director's latest masterpiece.
Exclusive concept art lets you experience Dune in a whole new way.
Interviews with filmmakers give you a one-of-a-kind, comprehensive look at the making of the movie.
A deluxe format makes this book a must-have collector's item.
https://www.amazon.com/Art-Making-Dune-Insight-Editions/dp/1647221552/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=The+Art+and+Making+of+DUNE&qid=1583251578&s=books&sr=1-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Art-Making-Dune-Insight-Editions/dp/1647221552/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=The+Art+and+Making+of+DUNE&qid=1583251578&s=books&sr=1-1)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 03, 2020, 04:38:00 PM
The Art and Making of Dune [2020] is now available for pre-order:
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I guess under normal circumstances there'd been a teaser in April.
I kinda doubt we gonna see the film this year...
Perhaps Christmas?
Yeah, as it stands, this film was set for a December release. Since I'm assuming that post-production has ground to a halt, however, I'm going to assume that 2021 is much more likely for it to release now.
Quote from: Fred SimonJon is the post-production of Dune doing OK? I Imagine the vxf team can't work on it because of the Covid-19?
Quote from: Jon SpaihtsIt's more possible to work remotely in VFX than in most aspects of production. A lot of artists have powerful machines at home. Editorial and VFX trundle on. It's production (including minor bits of additional photography or what have you) that have been stalled for all films.
https://twitter.com/jonspaihts/status/1243613524766519296 (https://twitter.com/jonspaihts/status/1243613524766519296)
CGI wizards must have top tier gadgets at home indeed :laugh:
Not really, you can easily do high-end modelling and texturing on consumer-level multi-core/multi-threaded PC's these days. The actual rendering will still be done at the VFX facilities' powerful render farms. Don't need anyone there for it, as the artists finish their respective assignments they just feed it into the pipeline from home.
Sounds like any geek's dream job / hobby 8)
Well, Fingers crossed...
Next problematic item is gonna be the funding of the second one i guess, cause I don't really expect the first one to hit it out of the park.
Now if it actually bombs hard and with the upcoming financial drought I think we're looking at the real possibility the second won't be made at all...
Agreed, though with them committed to going ahead with Dune: The Sisterhood (it has a full season order), they must have some degree of faith that this is going to turn into something bigger than the one film.
Ja, I take what i can get anyway.
This means about 10 hours of Dune already secured, hopefully more in the pipe.
If it's just a glimpse in the end we gotta accept there's not this type of audience out there that justifies throwing Star Wars money at a Dune cinematic project.
Maybe the whole fictional universe with its more mature content is better suited for a TV format anyway.
A First Look at Timothée Chalamet in Dune
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https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/04/a-first-look-at-timothee-chalamet-in-dune
FINALLY!
Caladan. So the rumours of filming in Norway seems to be true.
https://twitter.com/DanielRPK/status/1249694362184884224
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Official twitter account just opened:
https://twitter.com/dunemovie (https://twitter.com/dunemovie)
The marketing department has awakened. The hype must flow!
Looks like they rethought DUNC.
It was always as above, the leaked one was animated but the screengrab at the presentation was taken before the lens flare on the "e" at the end. Hence the "DUNC".
Official instagram account:
https://www.instagram.com/dunemovie/?hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/dunemovie/?hl=en)
ohaaa
Costume looks pretty minimalistic... kinda modern.
Ships look like:
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Ja, ja... it looks a bit blocky. :-\
Was never a fan of the ornithopters in the first film but the spice harvester looked aight.
I always wondered if Atreides ornithopters had ship-mounted weirding modules.
Or maybe these aren't ships but rather gigantic...
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lul ninja'd by the guy....
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 13, 2020, 04:22:07 PM
Ja, ja... it looks a bit blocky. :-\
Not a huge fan either, nonetheless I'd appreciate a not too technical approach when it comes to vehicles, ships and weapons etc. Dune was always a bit artsy, extravagant, expressionistic - so I wouldn't mind if done in a tasteful way.
Pundi rice harvesters methinks.
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A bunch of new pictures, interviews, and details!
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/04/behold-dune-an-exclusive-look-at-timothee-chalamet-zendaya-oscar-isaac
Super excited for this, the only change that bothers me seems to be the Kynes switch.
Eh, that's totally fine to me.
I bet, with that change, that Stilgar is going to be Chani's father rather than her uncle.
I should clarify that it doesnt bother me so much as just feels a little arbitrary for a major change.
The cast is insane for this, amazing.
Eh... Is it just me or are the stillsuits a bit meh designwise? No match for the Lynch ones IMO.
Atreides' armoured suits look pretty decent though. Cool mix between medieval and Scifi, Dune in a nutshell here.
Chalamet and Ferguson seem perfect too.
But the best thing:
Spoiler
SUSPENSOR LAMPS
Stillsuits remind me a lot of the Lynch ones TBH. The Lynch ones were basically perfect and these seem to fall right in line there.
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Thanks Ingwar, was just busy linking the images to here myself - you beat me to it!
Here's the text:
QuoteTimothée Chalamet remembers the darkness. It was the summer of 2019, and the cast and crew of Dune had ventured deep into the sandstone and granite canyons of southern Jordan, leaving in the middle of the night so they could catch the dawn on camera. The light spilling over the chasms gave the landscape an otherworldly feel. It was what they had come for.
"It was really surreal," says Chalamet. "There are these Goliath landscapes, which you may imagine existing on planets in our universe, but not on Earth."
They weren't on Earth anymore, anyway. They were on a deadly, dust-dry battleground planet called Arrakis. In Frank Herbert's epic 1965 sci-fi novel, Arrakis is the only known location of the galaxy's most vital resource, the mind-altering, time-and-space-warping "spice." In the new film adaptation, directed by Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 filmmaker Denis Villeneuve, Chalamet stars as the young royal Paul Atreides, the proverbial stranger in a very strange land, who's fighting to protect this hostile new home even as it threatens to destroy him. Humans are the aliens on Arrakis. The dominant species on that world are immense, voracious sandworms that burrow through the barren drifts like subterranean dragons.
For the infinite seas of sand that give the story its title, the production moved to remote regions outside Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates, where the temperatures rivaled the fiction in Herbert's story. "I remember going out of my room at 2 a.m., and it being probably 100 degrees," says Chalamet. During the shoot, he and the other actors were costumed in what the world of Dune calls "stillsuits"—thick, rubbery armor that preserves the body's moisture, even gathering tiny bits from the breath exhaled through the nose. In the story, the suits are life-giving. In real life, they were agony. "The shooting temperature was sometimes 120 degrees," says Chalamet. "They put a cap on it out there, if it gets too hot. I forget what the exact number is, but you can't keep working." The circumstances fed the story they were there to tell: "In a really grounded way, it was helpful to be in the stillsuits and to be at that level of exhaustion."
It wouldn't be Dune if it were easy. Herbert's novel became a sci-fi touchstone in the 1960s, heralded for its world-building and ecological subtext, as well as its intricate (some say impenetrable) plot focusing on two families struggling for supremacy over Arrakis. The book created ripples that many see in everything from Star Wars to Alien to Game of Thrones. Still, for decades, the novel itself has defied adaptation. In the '70s, the wild man experimental filmmaker Alejandro Jodorowsky mounted a quest to film it, but Hollywood considered the project too risky. David Lynch brought Dune to the big screen in a 1984 feature, but it was derided as an incomprehensible mess and a blight on his filmography. In 2000, a Dune miniseries on what's now the SyFy channel became a hit for the cable network, but it is now only dimly remembered.
"I would not agree to make this adaptation of the book with one single movie," says Villeneuve. "The world is too complex. It's a world that takes its power in details."
Villeneuve intends to create a Dune that has so far only existed in the imagination of readers. The key, he says, was to break the sprawling narrative in half. When Dune hits theaters on December 18, it will only be half the novel, with Warner Bros. agreeing to tell the story in two films, similar to the studio's approach with Stephen King's It and It Chapter Two. "I would not agree to make this adaptation of the book with one single movie," says Villeneuve. "The world is too complex. It's a world that takes its power in details."
For Villeneuve, this 55-year-old story about a planet being mined to death was not merely a space adventure, but a prophecy. "No matter what you believe, Earth is changing, and we will have to adapt," he says. "That's why I think that Dune, this book, was written in the 20th century. It was a distant portrait of the reality of the oil and the capitalism and the exploitation—the overexploitation—of Earth. Today, things are just worse. It's a coming-of-age story, but also a call for action for the youth."
Chalamet's character, Paul, thinks he's just a boy struggling to find a place in the world, but he actually possesses the ability to change it. He has a supernatural gift to harness and unleash energy, lead others, and meld with the heart of his new home world. Paul comes from a powerful galactic family with a name that sounds like a constellation—the House Atreides. His father and mother, Duke Leto (played by Oscar Isaac) and Lady Jessica (Rebecca Ferguson), take their son from their lush, Scandinavian-like home world to preside over spice extraction on Arrakis. What follows is a clash with the criminal, politically connected House Harkonnen, led by the monstrous Baron Vladimir (Stellan Skarsgård), a mammoth with merciless appetites. The baron, created with full-body prosthetics, is like a rhino in human form. This version of the character is less of a madman and more of a predator. "As much as I deeply love the book, I felt that the baron was flirting very often with caricature," says Villeneuve. "And I tried to bring him a bit more dimension. That's why I brought in Stellan. Stellan has something in the eyes. You feel that there's someone thinking, thinking, thinking—that has tension and is calculating inside, deep in the eyes. I can testify, it can be quite frightening."
The director has also expanded the role of Paul's mother, Lady Jessica. She's a member of the Bene Gesserit, a sect of women who can read minds, control people with their voice (again, a precursor to the Jedi mind trick), and manipulate the balance of power in the universe. In the script, which Villeneuve wrote with Eric Roth and Jon Spaihts, she is even more fearsome than before. The studio's plot synopsis describes her as a "warrior priestess." As Villeneuve jokes, "It's better than 'space nun.' "
Lady Jessica's duty is to deliver a savior to the universe—and now she has a greater role in defending and training Paul too. "She's a mother, she's a concubine, she's a soldier," says Ferguson. "Denis was very respectful of Frank's work in the book, [but] the quality of the arcs for much of the women have been brought up to a new level. There were some shifts he did, and they are beautifully portrayed now."
In an intriguing change to the source material, Villeneuve has also updated Dr. Liet Kynes, the leading ecologist on Arrakis and an independent power broker amid the various warring factions. Although always depicted as a white man, the character is now played by Sharon Duncan-Brewster (Rogue One), a black woman. "What Denis had stated to me was there was a lack of female characters in his cast, and he had always been very feminist, pro-women, and wanted to write the role for a woman," Duncan-Brewster says. "This human being manages to basically keep the peace amongst many people. Women are very good at that, so why can't Kynes be a woman? Why shouldn't Kynes be a woman?"
As fans will know, there's a vast menagerie of other characters populating Dune. There are humans called "mentats," augmented with computerlike minds. Paul is mentored by two bravado warriors Duncan Idaho and Gurney Halleck, played by Jason Momoa and Josh Brolin. Dave Bautista plays a sinister Harkonnen enforcer Glossu Rabban, and Charlotte Rampling has a key role as the Bene Gesserit reverend mother. The list goes on. In the seemingly unlivable wilds of Arrakis, Javier Bardem leads the Fremen tribe as Stilgar, and Zendaya costars as a mystery woman named Chani, who haunts Paul in his dreams as a vision with glowing blue eyes.
The breadth of Dune is what has made it so confounding for others to adapt. "It's a book that tackles politics, religion, ecology, spirituality—and with a lot of characters," says Villeneuve. "I think that's why it's so difficult. Honestly, it's by far the most difficult thing I've done in my life." After finishing this first movie, he'll just have to do it all over again.
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 14, 2020, 02:41:56 PM
Eh... Is it just me or are the stillsuits a bit meh designwise? No match for the Lynch ones IMO.
Atreides' armoured suits look pretty decent though. Cool mix between medieval and Scifi, Dune in a nutshell here.
I'm kinda the other way around, like the stillsuits but the armour reminds me of those 2000's video game armours with the low-poly geometrical look. :-\ Or like something from a cheap-ass Halo adaption.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 14, 2020, 03:45:15 PM
Thanks Ingwar, was just busy linking the images to here myself - you beat me to it!
Nightmare Asylum posted link without attaching images leaving me no choice :). A picture is worth a thousand words.
I kinda like those armours' minimalistic zen-alike design. Very Villeneuve. Sometimes less means more.
Can't wait to see some of this stuff outside of the promotional stills and actually reflecting Greig Fraser's cinematography.
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I'm not sure what I'm looking at here.
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I'm not sure what I'm looking at here.
Jessica's daughter Alia, from David Lynch's version of
Dune. Something about that promo shot of Jessica reminded me of Alia here, and the weird Rey vision just emphasized it for me. :D
I still haven't seen or read any version of Dune. :-[
More than any filmed version, I would recommend the book.
David Lynch's is... an interesting failure. The movie isn't particularly good, and it totally misunderstands the book, but it is such an odd one to watch that I can't help but be captivated by it, warts and all. And I love so much of the design of it.
I haven't seen the SyFy miniseries, so I can't speak to that.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 14, 2020, 04:44:20 PM
More than any filmed version, I would recommend the book.
David Lynch's is... an interesting failure. The movie isn't particularly good, and it totally misunderstands the book, but it is such an odd one to watch that I can't help but be captivated by it, warts and all. And I love so much of the design of it.
I haven't seen the SyFy miniseries, so I can't speak to that.
I definitely intend to read the book at some point, most likely before this film comes out.
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Well, Star Wars ripped off Dune, guess it's fair Villeneuve rips it right back. :laugh:
The miniseries was an admirable attempt, but when the desert scenes are largely represented by sand piled up in front of a very noticeably flat backdrop... yeah. :laugh: The follow up Children of Dune miniseries was generally much better. With a young McAvoy, to boot.
Yeah, I see that armour is getting some flack from people who actually make and wear real armour. Too bulky and restrictive to be effective in actual combat.
But did they even wear armour in the book? I have no memory of this? How would it affect hand-to-hand combat? "The slow blade penetrates the shield" but then what happens when the slow blade hits the armour? ???
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 14, 2020, 03:19:19 PM
Stillsuits remind me a lot of the Lynch ones TBH. The Lynch ones were basically perfect and these seem to fall right in line there.
I'm not saying it's a bad design or anything, just that it's getting a bit lost in details. The Lynch design had a more organic look with an overall sharper impression and almost Gigerish elements.
QuoteI'm kinda the other way around, like the stillsuits but the armour reminds me of those 2000's video game armours with the low-poly geometrical look. :-\ Or like something from a cheap-ass Halo adaption.
I guess I just prefer the more expressionistic look here.
I'm getting a bit of an
Excalibur vibe from those shots.
I wonder though, I really can't recall Leto ever wearing an armoured suit in the book. If I had to guess, I would say these shots are from that first excursion to the desert with Kynes, but in the book they are just wearing body shields if memory serves me correctly.
This had me thinking: Could it be they canceled the whole body shield thing entirely? Cause let's be honest the whole portrayal of the idea even in the book is a bit of a mess and the interaction with 'Lasguns' and the aspect of being penetrable by moving slow isn't really worked out 'unambiguously'. Not to mention the problems this all causes when it comes to making these things work in a film.
They could just keep these large shields for building, ships and other larger sized objects.
I dunno, or maybe these are just 'new scenes' entirely.
QuoteBut did they even wear armour in the book? I have no memory of this? How would it affect hand-to-hand combat? "The slow blade penetrates the shield" but then what happens when the slow blade hits the armour?
'Armoured troops' or something are mentioned during that long briefing scene in that airport tower outside Arrakeen. I think the depiction in the book when it comes to battles between the Great Houses always meanders a bit between the soldiers actually wearing (heavier) armour or just body shields or a mix of both. Sometimes the Sardaukar for example just wear the Harkonnen 'uniform', but two pages later are in armour again or something, it's a bit messy.
Again I'm inclined to think they might cancel out the whole body shield idea completely OR these sort of armour actually implements a shield generator which then could easily be instrumentalized to explain the bulky look, who knows...
QuoteI wonder though, I really can't recall Leto ever wearing an armoured suit in the book. If I had to guess, I would say these shots are from that first excursion to the desert with Kynes, but in the book they are just wearing body shields if memory serves me correctly.
They were wearing stillsuits for that first excursion into the desert. Kynes specifically comments on Paul's instinctive ability to fasten the boots correctly. But could be that they had personal shields as well.
QuoteThis had me thinking: Could it be they cancel the whole body shield thing entirely? Cause let's be honest the whole portrayal of the idea even in the book is a bit of a mess and the interaction with 'Lasguns' and the aspect of being penetrable by moving slow isn't really worked out 'unambiguously'. Not to mention the problems this all causes when it comes to making these things work in a film.
Could be, the shields would be a tricky thing to do in film. Looked a bit ass in the original movie as well. But then why do they have knives/machetes on their belts? Why not lasguns or projectile guns? Why bother with knives?
QuoteThey were wearing stillsuits for that first excursion into the desert. Kynes specifically comments on Paul's instinctive ability to fasten the boots correctly. But could be that they had personal shields as well.
Definitely stillsuits, but i think everyone (except for Kynes of course) is wearing a body shield too. Think Kynes just chuckles at the sight explaining how they are completely useless in the desert and even allure the worms. But they keep them on anyway.
QuoteCould be, the shields would be a tricky thing to do in film. Looked a bit ass in the original movie as well. But then why do they have knives/machetes on their belts? Why not lasguns or projectile guns? Why bother with knives?
The knives could be a mere decoration thing. If they really follow the book here closely and depict the whole society as feudalistic it makes sense for the leading caste to parade these sort of status symbols when appearing in public.
I might be the only person in the world who likes Lynch's Dune; I have a 3+ hour cut on a hard drive that I just love. I wouldn't argue that it's good, only that I enjoy it. Really looking to Denis' version because I think he's one of the best directors tackling SF these last few years.
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 14, 2020, 07:01:49 PM
I might be the only person in the world who likes Lynch's Dune;
I've always liked it, although I acknowledge that it's a highly flawed adaptation.
It's full of great scenes that just don't add up to an overall great movie. The reasons for this are numerous like sand grains in the desert.
Its failures are part of what makes it so interesting to me. It colossally misunderstands the source material, but it is a really interesting deep dive into Lynch and his interpretation of the book's themes.
The scene where the sand worm appears and swallows the vehicle as Atreides et al descend on Arrakis for the first time is amazing. I also get a kick out of seeing so many Lynch luminaries in the cast. Patrick Stewart, too.
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 14, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
The scene where the sand worm appears and swallows the vehicle as Atreides et al descend on Arrakis for the first time is amazing. I also get a kick out of seeing so many Lynch luminaries in the cast. Patrick Stewart, too.
Lynch's sandworm's were perfect.
QuoteThe knives could be a mere decoration thing. If they really follow the book here closely and depict the whole society as feudalistic it makes sense for the leading caste to parade these sort of status symbols when appearing in public.
Possibly, although a lot of emphasis in the book is placed on Paul's knife fighting ability. It is an important element regarding his duel with Jamis and Feyd-Rautha later on. Although one could assume his knife fighting training to be merely ceremonial as well. It could also be like 18th century duelists who despite having access to firearms rather chose to use traditional swords for personal duels.
However, the armour and knives do have a practical rather than a ceremonial look to them though. :-\
Anyway, will be interesting figuring out how this new armour element fits into the movie and whether they actually discarded the shields completely.
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 14, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
The scene where the sand worm appears and swallows the vehicle as Atreides et al descend on Arrakis for the first time is amazing. I also get a kick out of seeing so many Lynch luminaries in the cast. Patrick Stewart, too.
The shot of Alia Nightmare Asylum posted earlier is easily one of my all time favourite movie shots.
This movie probably contains more great shots/scenes than some movies I'd unquestionably consider 'great',
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 14, 2020, 07:16:06 PM
QuoteThe knives could be a mere decoration thing. If they really follow the book here closely and depict the whole society as feudalistic it makes sense for the leading caste to parade these sort of status symbols when appearing in public.
Possibly, although a lot of emphasis in the book is placed on Paul's knife fighting ability. It is an important element regarding his duel with Jamis and Feyd-Rautha later on. Although one could assume his knife fighting training to be merely ceremonial as well. It could also be like 18th century duelists who despite having access to firearms rather chose to use traditional swords for personal duels.
However, the armour and knives do have a practical rather than a ceremonial look to them though. :-\
Anyway, will be interesting figuring out how this new armour element fits into the movie and whether they actually discarded the shields completely.
You're right of course that in the book the close-quarter fighting aspect is not just a mere ceremonial reminiscence but rather a necessity (I mean, this is obviously the case even for todays real life 'war' scenarios where as a soldier you need to be prepared for close-combat situations as well as for distance combat, although the latter is no doubt the norm). In the book this necessity is even intensified by the body shields, where even in an army vs army type of situation you'd be forced to fight the oponent hand to hand because of the whole 'firing at a shield with a lasgun causes atomic explosions' thingy.
It's a bit of a plot convenience just like the Jedi forces you need to effectively swing a lasersword in SW. It makes no sense for Han to carry one cause against stormtroopers armed with blasters it won't help him. Yet a Jedi could fight them with it and so it becomes possible to implement this kind of weapon into the universe (and all the great sword fight scenes that come with it) without it sticking out like a cool yet more or less useless OR let's just say not often used item.
So yea, even for the movie it kinda would make sense to keep the body shields to preserve the 'practicality of the knife/sword' and therefore keep the frequence of applicability high
in universe, but as you already mentioned, it's a bit hard to imagine the visualisation of a close combat fight with body shields and knives (it's also pretty cost-intensive, I'd presume).
Once the story reaches desert territory the shield aspect gets more or less erased anyway. So I think it might be clever and advantageous (both plotwise and budgetwise) to somehow write around the whole thing, i dunno... we'll see.
another new image.
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1250199963616923648
Looking excellent. I love the blue eyes.
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 14, 2020, 11:46:04 PM
another new image.
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1250199963616923648
Reminds me of the famous National Geographic picture of the Afghan girl.
(https://i.imgur.com/wCQsYxH.jpg)
I like that they're not glowing as bright as they do in the other versions.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 15, 2020, 12:20:41 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 14, 2020, 11:46:04 PM
another new image.
https://twitter.com/OnlyFilmMedia/status/1250199963616923648
Reminds me of the famous National Geographic picture of the Afghan girl.
(https://i.imgur.com/wCQsYxH.jpg)
I was thinking the exact same thing. This classic picture is the perfect reference for what I would imagine as Fremen eyes and overall look.
Was it always known that it was going to be a 2-part?
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1250431451641729024
It has been known for quite some time, just not to IGN.
Yeah, that was part of the initial announcement for the film. Pretty sure we've known that much since before Blade Runner 2049 even released.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 15, 2020, 03:55:37 PM
Yeah, that was part of the initial announcement for the film. Pretty sure we've known that much since before Blade Runner 2049 even released.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 15, 2020, 03:48:24 PM
It has been known for quite some time, just not to IGN.
You are both right - I have been on/off following production of this movie.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 26, 2018, 04:56:55 PM
QuoteDuring Denis Villeneuve's Master Class in Montreal yesterday, the director suggested that his project for #Dune had a good chance of being in 2 films ("4 years of my life" according to him).
https://twitter.com/JeanneLods/status/968128227293171712 (https://twitter.com/JeanneLods/status/968128227293171712)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 09, 2018, 07:24:07 PM
https://twitter.com/ThePlaylist/status/972146244326797312
https://twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1250592806512533504
https://twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1250442254025494528
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 16, 2020, 03:13:58 AM
https://twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1250592806512533504
- Make a wish, Lo.
- To be back in the desert,
together again.
I wish they'd update the classic RTS game as a tie-in with the new movie.
I never knew that Herzog Zwei inspired Dune 2. I played the shit out of that too, but it was always just a cult hit.
While we wait for more Dune (2020) material to be released, here are some bts shots from the first film courtesy of @DuneInfo.
The Emperor's ship miniature and blueprints:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV5eTP6XkAITM1M?format=png&name=4096x4096)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV5eUZLWkAEJbPQ?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV5eSJrXkAEuaQI?format=jpg&name=medium)
The Guild Heighliner miniature and blueprints:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVVYSm4X0AAK4-P?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVVYbGZX0AA5Q6j?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVVYVh7XYAAH0jC?format=jpg&name=medium)
The Atreides Hawk:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUxRR9TWkAARsbF?format=jpg&name=medium)
The Spice Harvester miniature & concept art:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUNhXqJXsAAN0TF?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUNhUACXsAAVXeI?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUNhOjfWoAA0RJ9?format=jpg&name=medium)
Harkonnen Flagship miniature & concept art:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETFboMXXYAIrFCK?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETFbl1wXQAEhDUI?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETFblEtXQAIOeo-?format=jpg&name=medium)
Giedi Prime Matte Painting by Syd Dutton:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESSjwCIWkAEH1Ak?format=jpg&name=large)
God, I absolutely love the look of Lynch's film.
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 14, 2020, 03:42:37 PM
(https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5e94b116d5aded0008264f3d/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/0520-Dune-Tout-Lede.jpg)
The present day Oakley gloves are a weird costume choice. Kinda takes the immersion out a little bit. ;D Apart from that it's looking great.
Quote from: David Lynch via The Hollywood ReporterThis week they released a few photos from the new big-screen adaptation of Dune by Denis Villeneuve. Have you seen them?
David Lynch: I have zero interest in Dune.
Why's that?
David Lynch: Because it was a heartache for me. It was a failure and I didn't have final cut. I've told this story a billion times. It's not the film I wanted to make. I like certain parts of it very much — but it was a total failure for me.
You would never see someone else's adaptation of Dune?
David Lynch: I said I've got zero interest.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1252228061027807232?s
Lynch and Fincher should hang out and watch Dune and Alien 3 together.
Well played, sir :laugh:
Would make a great commentary for both films.
David Flyncher.
Charles de Lauzirika is the man.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 20, 2020, 08:52:44 PM
Lynch and Fincher should hang out and watch Dune and Alien 3 together.
They could invite Josh Trank to brighten the mood.
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 21, 2020, 01:31:59 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 20, 2020, 08:52:44 PM
Lynch and Fincher should hang out and watch Dune and Alien 3 together.
I say thee nay. These brothers must be grim.
They could invite Josh Trank to brighten the mood.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 20, 2020, 08:39:51 PM
Quote from: David Lynch via The Hollywood ReporterThis week they released a few photos from the new big-screen adaptation of Dune by Denis Villeneuve. Have you seen them?
David Lynch: I have zero interest in Dune.
Why's that?
David Lynch: Because it was a heartache for me. It was a failure and I didn't have final cut. I've told this story a billion times. It's not the film I wanted to make. I like certain parts of it very much — but it was a total failure for me.
You would never see someone else's adaptation of Dune?
David Lynch: I said I've got zero interest.
Was that the end of the interview? :laugh:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 21, 2020, 04:33:28 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 20, 2020, 08:39:51 PM
Quote from: David Lynch via The Hollywood ReporterThis week they released a few photos from the new big-screen adaptation of Dune by Denis Villeneuve. Have you seen them?
David Lynch: I have zero interest in Dune.
Why's that?
David Lynch: Because it was a heartache for me. It was a failure and I didn't have final cut. I've told this story a billion times. It's not the film I wanted to make. I like certain parts of it very much — but it was a total failure for me.
You would never see someone else's adaptation of Dune?
David Lynch: I said I've got zero interest.
Was that the end of the interview? :laugh:
Almost. He answered a couple of questions apparently :laugh:
THR: If you had your choice, what would you rather make: a feature film or a TV series?
David Lynch: A TV series. Right now. feature films in my book are in big trouble, except for the big blockbusters. The art house films, they don't stand a chance. They might go to a theater for a week and if it's a Cineplex they go to the smallest theater in the setup, and then they go to Blu-ray or On Demand. The big-screen experience right now is gone. Gone, but not forgotten.
THR: What about the glamour of Cannes, bringing Mulholland Drive there and posing for the photo calls?
David Lynch: It's beautiful. Cannes is, you know, just a fantastic venue. But [Cannes director] Thierry [Frémaux] told me that the screen is actually smaller than it was then. I think Mulholland Drive played on this [smaller] size screen. But Wild at Heart in 1990, when I got the Palme d'Or, the screen was bigger and the room was built on analog sound. So Wild at Heart was full-coat mag [magnetic film] on a double system and the power! Smooth, smooth power. That was unreal. A giant screen with smooth, giant sound. Power. Visual and sound at the maximum good.
THR: Is making another feature film out of the question?
David Lynch: No, you never say no to anything, really. But I really love a continuing story, and cable television I say is the new art house. You have total freedom. The sound isn't as good as a great theater; the picture isn't as big — but TVs are getting bigger and bigger and better and better, so there's hope. And then you have this chance for a continuing story, so it's the new art house, I say.
THR: With some distance between you and Twin Peaks: The Return, how are you feeling about it?
David Lynch: Twin Peaks: The Return, it's gold.
He was lucky...
I was under the impression that it was common knowledge, if not written law among reporters to never ever, under any circumstances, mention the word "Dune" in any interview with David Lynch.
Either this guy is as green as Gorman or he is a ballsy troll. :laugh:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 22, 2020, 11:55:44 AM
He was lucky...
I was under the impression that it was common knowledge, if not written law among reporters to never ever, under any circumstances, mention the word "Dune" in any interview with David Lynch.
Either this guy is as green as Gorman or he is a ballsy troll. :laugh:
:laugh: Is there any Taboo film in Ridley Scott's career? in such a way that an reporter should not, ever!, bring up to the interview :-X
Nah, the only way to get Ridley Scott going is to tell him that Deckard is a human.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 22, 2020, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 22, 2020, 11:55:44 AM
He was lucky...
I was under the impression that it was common knowledge, if not written law among reporters to never ever, under any circumstances, mention the word "Dune" in any interview with David Lynch.
Either this guy is as green as Gorman or he is a ballsy troll. :laugh:
:laugh: Is there any Taboo film in Ridley Scott's career? in such a way that an reporter should not, ever!, bring up to the interview :-X
Covenant?
Councillor?
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 22, 2020, 06:46:29 PM
:laugh: Is there any Taboo film in Ridley Scott's career? in such a way that an reporter should not, ever!, bring up to the interview :-X
Blade Runner used to be like that for Ridley back in the eighties. It was a very difficult shoot, Ridley didn't have final cut, it bombed hard upon release and got hammered by many critics (much like Dune and Alien 3).
Of course, these days it's widely considered one of the greatest and most influential science-fiction films ever made. And since Ridley got his unicorn scene back in the picture and a Final Cut, he's quite happy to talk about it now.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 22, 2020, 07:37:36 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 22, 2020, 06:46:29 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 22, 2020, 11:55:44 AM
He was lucky...
I was under the impression that it was common knowledge, if not written law among reporters to never ever, under any circumstances, mention the word "Dune" in any interview with David Lynch.
Either this guy is as green as Gorman or he is a ballsy troll. :laugh:
:laugh: Is there any Taboo film in Ridley Scott's career? in such a way that an reporter should not, ever!, bring up to the interview :-X
Covenant?
Councillor?
No. He adores The Counselor. And Guillermo Del Toro adores The Counselor too.
https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/1255220140569964544
Wouldn't it be kinda cool if one the trailers was designed as if it was one of Pauls visions?
https://twitter.com/DuneNovels/status/1255222147888435203
Looks like it is a new Brian Herbert/KJA book that's going to be formally announced soon.
I've only ever read the first three Frank Herbert novels. Reread the original recently and reading the second one now, with the intention of making it through all six of Frank's books this time. Don't know if I'll ever read the Brian/KJA ones though.
The Brian & Anderson books are entirely missable.
Ja, only ever read Franks originals. And thats cause I'm a sucker for his general style. The post Dune stuff is pretty patchy imo.
Never even tried the non-Frank stuff, but I heard the worst.
I read almost all the KJA / Brian Herbert novels. They're pretty good. They're nowhere near the tone of Frank Herbert, but they are page turners. They flesh out the universe really well. Lots of angry fans out there because the son of the original author is trying to keep the series alive. ::)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXvkZMYXYAA4Rud?format=jpg&name=medium)
I wonder if that could be from when the Duke, Halleck, Keynes and Paul first go out into the desert with an ornithopter? When they land to pick up the spice harvester workers just before the worm comes?
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 11, 2020, 04:16:56 PM
I wonder if that could be from when the Duke, Halleck, Keynes and Paul first go out into the desert with an ornithopter? When they land to pick up the spice harvester workers just before the worm comes?
That was my immediate thought.
QuoteThat's Timothée Chalamet playing protagonist Paul Atreides, balancing on an airborne ornithopter, flying over the expanse of the planet Arrakis with Josh Brolin's weapons teacher Gurney Halleck – and it's a pivotal moment for the young warrior. "It's Paul's first contact with the deep desert, where he's mesmerised by it," Villeneuve tells Empire. "He has a strange feeling of being home. There's a lot of action at this specific moment, and [it's] one of the scenes in the movie that I'm starting to get pretty proud of."
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/dune-timothee-chalamet-paul-atreides-mesmerised-desert-exclusive-image/
Yeah, it does sound like that scene.
Here is that scene from Lynch's Dune which was pretty cool. David Lynch can also be seen in a cameo role as a spice harvester crewman in this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr-KO1P_rFU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr-KO1P_rFU)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 11, 2020, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 11, 2020, 04:16:56 PM
I wonder if that could be from when the Duke, Halleck, Keynes and Paul first go out into the desert with an ornithopter? When they land to pick up the spice harvester workers just before the worm comes?
That was my immediate thought.
Same here.
Larger image:
(https://images2.imgbox.com/76/97/15yKKm6d_o.jpg)
So Brolin is balancing in that picture, eh? ;)
Hmm no teaser yet.
My best guess is that they are stalling and observing how the Corona shit is developing. The Empire Stories and stills are sort of a compromise whereas a teaser would constrain them more.
But at some point there needs to be a decision anyhow.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX0w05iXkAUyqb3?format=jpg&name=large)
Found this image on my twitter feed, lol
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX0Rl_NUcAAjxoF?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXzfskEU8AAgDtX?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXzw_vZU4AA_Jek?format=jpg&name=large)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 12, 2020, 03:22:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX0w05iXkAUyqb3?format=jpg&name=large)
Looks like he is holding two knives, one in reverse grip. Costume reminds me of 17th & 18th century swashbuckler/duelists style shirts & pants.
I guess this might be during a training session with Gurney Halleck?
Looks like it might be the same ornithoper we glimpsed earlier:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXxEy1TXkAIhm_I?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1260278582196285440
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1260313616710066183
Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2020, 06:46:27 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1260313616710066183
Would you say Pre-Cambrian? ;)
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/86206011f7cbc35465760031bfb35484/tenor.gif?itemid=15752237)
Villeneuve's heptapods were great, so I trust in his eye when it comes to creature design. :)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 12, 2020, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2020, 06:46:27 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1260313616710066183
Would you say Pre-Cambrian? ;)
https://media1.tenor.com/images/86206011f7cbc35465760031bfb35484/tenor.gif?itemid=15752237
Cambrian! what a paradise of beautiful oddities :laugh:
(https://i.imgur.com/P7HLhqI.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/qgBEUIY.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/Tl9rjI3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tpwbz7w.jpg)
This modern alien-looking beauty is a Squidworm 8)
(https://i.imgur.com/0QaMXum.jpg)
What if the worms look like this? ;)
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkaiju.wdfiles.com%2Flocal--files%2Fwiki%3Asandworm%2Fsandworm_1988_01.jpg&hash=085e7ad726b023c274bd6c1c22ee2dbcdb9d15b0)
Beetlejuice would be a prequel to Villeneuve's Dune.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1260614362932359169
Weirding modules sold separately?
Asking for a friend.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 13, 2020, 05:24:27 PM
Weirding modules sold separately?
Asking for a friend.
I hear they come in an accessory pack with pugs and heart plugs.
I think he'll be very happy then.
HQ photo
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX_PbYpWkAES2ht?format=jpg&name=large)
someone from the UK posted scans from Empire as well
https://twitter.com/RFergusonBrasil/status/1260948078556860418
I wonder if that gadget on his left wrist could be a shield projector?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX_JXMlWoAA_04y?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX_JXMiXsAIJLY0?format=jpg&name=large)
Definitely looks to be so. The same device can be seen on Leo's wrist as well, in the image of him in his armor that was released a few weeks back.
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1261325744065650689
Guess it's from the "training" session with Halleck on Caladan.
I'm really curious how they gonna pull it off effect wise and narratively/coherently throughout the films.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1261414682524618765
:D
:laugh:
I really like what the Michael Corleone comparison is implying though.
Lynch Paul is a bit too Buddha/Messias, looking like some sort of transcendental winner in the end. Which kinda completely goes against one of the major intentions of the book.
Michael Corleone is spot on. Now that I think of it, it's funny how I never made that connection after reading ALL the Dune books.
Dune Messiah is very Godfather like.
Put your hand in the box.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1261997486954237953
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1262033563500924936
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 17, 2020, 12:41:55 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1261997486954237953
Yeah, I guess we'll be getting little prequel shortfilms like we did with BR2049. There was two live action shortfilms and an Anime one. Didn't Luke Scott direct one of them? They should have asked David Lynch and Alejandro Jodorowsky to make a couple for Dune. ;D
Luke directed both live action BR2049 shorts, as well as most of the Prometheus/Covenant shorts.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 17, 2020, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 17, 2020, 12:41:55 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1261997486954237953
Yeah, I guess we'll be getting little prequel shortfilms like we did with BR2049. There was two live action shortfilms and an Anime one. Didn't Luke Scott direct one of them? They should have asked David Lynch and Alejandro Jodorowsky to make a couple for Dune. ;D
Ridley as well since he was supposed to Dune before Blade Runner.
Yeah, should have asked Riddles, Lynch, Jodorowsky and Peter Berg to do little marketing shortfilms for Denis Villeneuve's upcoming masterpiece. :laugh:
Oh, and Pierre Morrel. Almost forgot about him. :laugh:
Are the two SyFy miniseries canon to this marketing campaign?
Might as well be. Get James McAvoy involved.
Denis about sandworms:
QuoteWe talked about every little detail that would make such a beast possible, from the texture of the skin, to the way the mouth opens, to the system to eat its food in the sand. It was a year of work to design and to find the perfect shape that looked prehistoric enough.
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2496330/dunes-denis-villeneuve-spent-a-year-getting-one-major-character-right
QuoteIt was a year of work to design and to find the perfect shape that looked prehistoric phallic enough.
I mean, if that's what they wanted, Giger's old designs are still laying around somewhere.
Yea --
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-b2soFzDTL90%2FU7Zu5e8pWuI%2FAAAAAAAAC0Y%2FH2Nq0WgDi0I%2Fs1600%2FGusanos%2Bde%2Barena%2Bde%2BArrakis%2Bpara%2B%2BDune%2Bde%2B%2BJodorowsky%2B_%2BGIGER%2B2.jpg&hash=a1a57a70180bfa2c8027f99e928651d46c6594fe)
Don't like Giger's design as a Dune sandworm at all, but I love it as its own thing. Maybe David can make one. ;)
I'm sure David is already working on creating that giant dick for his own purposes.
I really dig Alex Brady's worms.
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/020/561/267/large/alex-jay-brady-nk4-s.jpg?1568248682)
Schoenherr's are great too, of course.
As far as fan art goes, nobody does Dune better than Alex Brady.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 19, 2020, 11:42:57 PM
Don't like Giger's design as a Dune sandworm at all, but I love it as its own thing. Maybe David can make on. ;)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Quote from: kwisatz on May 20, 2020, 12:16:32 AM
I really dig Alex Brady's worms.
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/020/561/267/large/alex-jay-brady-nk4-s.jpg?1568248682)
Schoenherr's are great too, of course.
It's pretty cool and somehow unique. Perhaps the color makes it so. But it also feels cold and digital like a computer model a bit. Seems inorganic almost. Too geometrically perfect somehow.
Quote from: kwisatz on May 20, 2020, 12:16:32 AM
I really dig Alex Brady's worms.
You seem to know a lot about worms.
Quote from: kwisatz on May 19, 2020, 11:24:38 PM
Yea --
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b2soFzDTL90/U7Zu5e8pWuI/AAAAAAAAC0Y/H2Nq0WgDi0I/s1600/Gusanos+de+arena+de+Arrakis+para++Dune+de++Jodorowsky+_+GIGER+2.jpg
It looks like the horror equivalent of a vacuum cleaner hose. :-X
(https://i.imgur.com/WXY0U9S.jpg)
From Jodorowsky's Dune I prefer Giger's Harkonnen Castle. There you find my love 🖤🖤🖤🖤🤘
(https://i.imgur.com/c9jxds7.jpg)
Quote from: kwisatz on May 20, 2020, 12:16:32 AM
I really dig Alex Brady's worms.
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/020/561/267/large/alex-jay-brady-nk4-s.jpg?1568248682)
Schoenherr's are great too, of course.
So elegant :o
Ah yes, the Engineer pyramid.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1263883402266189825 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1263883402266189825)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYo1z-3WAAA4tmG?format=jpg&name=large)
Was watching Maria Magdalene tonight, mainly for the score (Gudnadottir/Johannsson :o).
What really impressed me though was the cinematography. It was something between Tarkovsky and Malick (minus the excessive camera movements though). Kinda artsy but never too much.
So I waited for the credits and... YESSsssS --
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1268599968148754432
Interesting him saying it's "fully formed story in itself".
Now I really wonder where the cut is... Though I'm kinda inclined to think it 'ends' with a Jihad vision now...
Cause if so, it would kinda work like a Hemingway kind of (short-)story or something like 'Heart of Darkness'. Shifting (a bit) from the (pure) epic to a more novella style approach. I must admit I didn't expect this, but I can see it actually work.
What if the second part ends with a rainstorm over Arrakeen too?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F78.media.tumblr.com%2F26c5a835203d35a153204ee691276125%2Ftumblr_p1fo413Csk1tpdqt1o1_400.gif&hash=caa4d2d96a035c5386f899ef9de2be780788e49d)
Maybe they'll include Ridley's idea of Paul being Alia's father...
Go milk ya cats!
Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 05, 2020, 12:41:44 AM
Interesting him saying it's "fully formed story in itself".
Now I really wonder where the cut is... Though I'm kinda inclined to think it 'ends' with a Jihad vision now...
Considering Chani will feature in the first part, my guess would be just after Paul and Jessica meet up with the Fremen.
So not a cliffhanger (eg. lost in the sandstorm) but kind of a happy ending and "fully formed story" as they find refuge with the Fremen.
I may or may not have got my hands on a Spaihts draft...
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I only glanced at it, but the last scene is Paul coming out of a vision and finding himself mid-coitus with Chani.
And interestingly, Feyd is only mentioned a few times but never seen, so they're saving him for Part 2.
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That makes sense, as nobody was ever cast as Feyd. Which still strikes me as incredibly odd.
I have a feeling that because of that we're going to get much more focus on Rabban in this first half we did in the book. We might even see him prominently feature during the raid on the Haroknnen spice reserves, if that gets shown in this adaptation rather than just mentioned like in the book.
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Sounds like a mix between Passengers and my 'approach' and also between a 'fully formed story' and a cliffhangar. I think I could live with that, maybe even in the case we don't get a sequel.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 05, 2020, 08:14:20 PM
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That makes sense, as nobody was ever cast as Feyd. Which still strikes me as incredibly odd.
I have a feeling that because of that we're going to get much more focus on Rabban in this first half we did in the book. We might even see him prominently feature during the raid on the Haroknnen spice reserves, if that gets shown in this adaptation rather than just mentioned like in the book.
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I specifically did a search on the pdf for Feyd because he was never cast. They do refer forward to his arena fight as something that will happen in Part 2.
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Yeah most of his stuff can easily be shifted to the second half. The only one that would really have to be straight up sacrificed is his place in the Harkonnen council meeting that comes very early on in the novel.
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I wonder though how they could story wise get to a point where Paul would already be sleeping with Chani? Maybe you misread and that's still part of the vision? Otherwise... or maybe the time shift is actually happening in the first part? But i find that hard to imagine...
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Well, I only glanced at it. But maybe they get together just prior to the time shift.
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Hm... I thought about before that in the film she could be Jamis' wife. Would actually kinda align perfectly with an early sex scene...
Are we really using spoiler alerts for a film that will be based on a novel that was released in 1965, and which already had 2 film adaptations?
Seeing as there are people who haven't read the book, and since we already know that the adaptation is changing certain elements, I'd say yes.
Don't spoil it for kwisatz! He's only read the dust covers! >:(
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 06, 2020, 02:47:11 PM
Seeing as there are people who haven't read the book
*cough*
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 06, 2020, 03:15:19 PM
Don't spoil it for kwisatz! He's only read the dust covers! >:(
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(https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/12324352-3x2-xlarge.jpg?v=2)
:laugh:
:laugh:
Lol.
https://kitchenoverlord.com/dune-week-spice-filled-sandworm/ (https://kitchenoverlord.com/dune-week-spice-filled-sandworm/)
Quote from: DeadlineThe team are planning to head back to Budapest, Hungary, where the movie shot in 2019 at Origo Film Studios. Filming has also taken part in Jordan and Norway, and initially wrapped back in July last year.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1273657113856753665
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 18, 2020, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: DeadlineThe team are planning to head back to Budapest, Hungary, where the movie shot in 2019 at Origo Film Studios. Filming has also taken part in Jordan and Norway, and initially wrapped back in July last year.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1273657113856753665
December? This movie will be postponed to 2021.
https://twitter.com/zsuzsanna_virag/status/1274299470847541248
I don't quite think this is confirmed, but it would be silly if it wasn't attached to Tenet. We might even see something a bit earlier with that Inception re-release.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 21, 2020, 02:44:53 AM
https://twitter.com/zsuzsanna_virag/status/1274299470847541248
I don't quite think this is confirmed, but it would be silly if it wasn't attached to Tenet. We might even see something a bit earlier with that Inception re-release.
Gosh, I hope so. I hope we're getting some footage as soon as possible.
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1275552009878491136
I'm kinda expecting something similar to what Zimmer did for Gladiator's North African desert scenes. Same kind of instruments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOGoKvOgJVk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOGoKvOgJVk)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 21, 2020, 02:44:53 AM
I don't quite think this is confirmed, but it would be silly if it wasn't attached to Tenet. We might even see something a bit earlier with that Inception re-release.
I'm sure it will be officially released on YouTube at least a day before Tenet debuts. Otherwise they're going to have all these shoddy bootleg recordings floating around the internet that might put people off the film.
Quote from: Hans Zimmer via VarietyRight now I'm in the middle of making these sounds. I just have these ideas, and it's like this every day. I'm doing all these experiments, and I have no idea if any of them will ever really end up in the movie. But we are so dedicated, trying to do something different, to do solid and honorable work, and do justice to the book.
I'm driving everybody crazy on "Dune" because I'm so full of ideas. And it's Denis, you know? He lets me be part of this world. It's totally and utterly inspiring, and it's great people I get to work with – scrap the word "work," it's great people I get to play with.
So far I'm doing okay. There are possibilities opening up. Recording is going on in London and Vienna. And look, I've always used odd lineups, and I've sort of, for better or for worse, invented a way of working where you can have different small sections come in at different times. So to me, that's not so different. Working remotely is horrible, but I've done it. And if we have to do it like this, we'll do it like this.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1275550794834677763
Gonna be hard to outdo Toto.
They blessed the rains down in Arrakis.
Meanwhile Pink Floyd is eating hamburgers.
https://twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1276217415077179394
Dune Behind The Scenes pointed out that:
QuoteI'm pretty sure that the 'thopter in the desert is the one that Paul & Jessica escape in, the script describes it as "...delicate craft compared to the military airships... its cockpit a bubble of glass."
Plus the damage is the result of the sandstorm.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbYI-BPWoAEwBnN?format=jpg&name=large)
While I'm pretty sure the one below is the same ornithopher we saw Paul and Gurney on from an earlier official photo. So these ones are likely the Atreides military ornithopters while the one on top is a civilian 'thopter that Kynes had stored at one of his botanical stations and that Paul and Jessica ultimately uses to escape the Harkonens.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbYI-BPWAAMXYoO?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://images2.imgbox.com/76/97/15yKKm6d_o.jpg)
That's the proper design language. I love it! 8)
Kinda has a Ron Cobb feel, but maybe that's just the play of light affecting the color. Looks cool!
https://twitter.com/pascoalnaib/status/1277626747387813889
I don't really care for this sandworm design, unfortunately. I think the worms in Lynch's film were absolutely perfect designs. Really can't wait to see the Denis version.
I'm expecting something different from the standard Schoenherr sandworms but I'm hoping the new worms keep a sleek, simple look as opposed to something too overdesigned, spiky and gross with complex mouth parts and all that (like those horrible Tremors 5 Graboids).
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1279507624963313664
:laugh: :laugh:
Fan-made
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eck27PTXYAEQlOk?format=jpg&name=large)
It's about time we got that bloody trailer*! :laugh:
Here is the theme song for the trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGcwziLDs4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGcwziLDs4)
*although over here we call that a caravan.
That Dune Trailer made me laugh out loud.
slight edit:
(https://i.imgur.com/c1HW4qm.jpg)
Haha... thanks for that. Now I've got that damned "Caravan" theme stuck in my head again. :laugh:
Caravan?
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(https://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2000_Snatch./000SNC_Brad_Pitt_005.jpg)
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1283379366987276289
I wonder what that could be?
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/1283785965828358144
Quote from: Kevin J. Anderson"We might be getting a lot of brand-new readers, so we didn't want to do something that was in a very obscure timeframe. We wanted something that could be easily accessible and familiar to anybody who'd just read the first Dune novel," Anderson said during the panel. "It'll be a familiar way to get everybody right up to speed to reading Dune and seeing the film, so we felt this was the right time for bringing this story."
https://twitter.com/io9/status/1287118664202936321
The official Dune Panel
Awesome! I love the Herbert / Anderson books. They expand on the universe very well. They don't ape Frank's style and they don't pretend to be written by Frank, but this is an excellent example of doing an enormous and largely consistent universe expansion.
Wait, Anderson's Dune books are good? His Star Wars novels were generally trash.
There are many Frank Herbert fans who don't like the new Dune novels. The style of writing is different. Frank Herbert has the reader "read between the lines" a lot while the new books have everything spelled out in great detail. But I actually loved the intricacies of the great detail. It is such a rich and consistent tapestry that has been written now that I can't imagine anything matching this scope.
Also, there is something honest about not aping Frank Herbert. The authors don't try to be Frank Herbert. They just expand his world with incredible intricacies and socio-political intrigue.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 29, 2020, 03:21:33 PM
Wait, Anderson's Dune books are good? His Star Wars novels were generally trash.
As far as I'm aware it's only Mr. Perfect that thinks so.
Dune trailer out next month:
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1288529165990400001 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1288529165990400001)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeHHrp6XYAUMuGi?format=png&name=small)
Assuming, of course, that that Inception re-release actually happens.
https://twitter.com/gavinfeng97/status/1289546127058989056
Here is the full interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdV7AWd3ns (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdV7AWd3ns)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 29, 2020, 06:08:13 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 29, 2020, 03:21:33 PM
Wait, Anderson's Dune books are good? His Star Wars novels were generally trash.
As far as I'm aware it's only Mr. Perfect that thinks so.
I don't like regurgitating the ideas and sentiments of other fans. But that is not why I like the novels. They add to the richness of the Dune universe and expand upon the world created by Frank Herbert. The style of the books is different, yes, but it is not Frank Herbert writing the new books. I've read the 3 trilogies of Anderson and Herbert, and I have to answer one simple question to myself: did I enjoy reading them? The answer is yes! They were page turners. Every book had no shortage of cliffhangers, twists, surprises, layers upon layers, and insights into the backstory of every major and minor house in the empire. The books wove a continuous tapestry that brought together 10,000 years of history in a way that did not feel disjointed. Some of the characters were different, but we saw the evolution of the houses, and that gave the sort of personal-level continuity that would have otherwise been impossible with books covering such a long span of time.
I don't have any interest in convincing people of how enjoyable these books are but in the face of so much hate aimed at the new books and their authors, I am proud to say that I really love them. They gave me years and years of reading enjoyment. I hope they all get turned into film.
Well, they obviously have a market if they keep on churning them out.
I just found the few that I read utterly forgettable. Don't hate them or anything.
https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1290695242048344069
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 05, 2020, 12:07:18 AM
https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1290695242048344069
Jodo: "Denis won't rape the bride."
I think it's impossible to be a success at the box office. DUNE is cult like BLADE RUNNER and 2049.
Don't underestimate the Chalamet stans. :D
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 05, 2020, 12:07:18 AM
https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1290695242048344069
This guy! :D
Actually I love his Incal works...
"The impact was that it crushed my schedule right now," he explained. "It will be a sprint to finish the movie on time right now. We were allowed to go back to shoot – we're going back to shoot those elements in a few weeks, [the ones] we were supposed to shoot earlier. It meant that I also had to finish some elements of the movie like VFX and the editing being in Montreal as my crew stayed in Los Angeles."
https://theplaylist.net/denis-villeneuve-editing-dune-quarantine-20200804/
Are they still doing it in two films? Shot separately?
They could literally do this LOTR style and do both at once.
Yep, two shot separately. And barring the delayed reshoots, the first one has already shot.
I'm fine with there being a gap between the two parts, since there's a time jump in the book. I just hope the first part is successful enough that we actually get the second one.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Aug 05, 2020, 02:57:20 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 05, 2020, 12:07:18 AM
https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1290695242048344069
This guy! :D
Actually I love his Incal works...
No love for his movies, tho?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 05, 2020, 02:21:50 PM
%u201CThe impact was that it crushed my schedule right now,%u201D he explained. %u201CIt will be a sprint to finish the movie on time right now. We were allowed to go back to shoot %u2013 we%u2019re going back to shoot those elements in a few weeks, [the ones] we were supposed to shoot earlier. It meant that I also had to finish some elements of the movie like VFX and the editing being in Montreal as my crew stayed in Los Angeles.%u201D
https://theplaylist.net/denis-villeneuve-editing-dune-quarantine-20200804/
At this point I wish they'd shift the release giving the team more/enough time to thoroughly finish the film. Or kinda what happened to Blade Runner where the way longer (post-)production significantly improved it's look - what a dream scenario (emphasis on 'dream', I suppose).
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 05, 2020, 04:03:00 PM
Yep, two shot separately. And barring the delayed reshoots, the first one has already shot.
I'm fine with there being a gap between the two parts, since there's a time jump in the book. I just hope the first part is successful enough that we actually get the second one.
And that is the big worry. I can't picture people leaving the theatre satisfied with half the story. Where would you cut it? At the moment where Paul and his mother escape?
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1291405947135504385
TRAILER EXISTS.
Shai Hulud! Shai Hulud!!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 06, 2020, 04:12:51 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1291405947135504385
TRAILER EXISTS.
HOLY
I made a couple of screenshots:
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/14/95/e9149540aa6ddcabf8809d17325fc52f.jpg)
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Actually wanted to watch it... and it's not even working... Local...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 06, 2020, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 06, 2020, 04:12:51 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1291405947135504385
TRAILER EXISTS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzUlXEyvJeA
Been in the mood to rewatch this lately. It isn't a great movie, and it is an even worse adaptation of the source material, but man I love the look of it.
So watch it, but don't spoil it for kwisatz!
The Sandworm design in the Lynch film is so absolutely perfect.
(https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Sandworm-Dune-Lynch.png)
Is a warm feeling to know someone's watching over ya.
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(https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/RaisedByWolves.jpg)
Trailer:
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https://youtu.be/7B1nfv65xQY
Now that, I still have not seen.
I vaguely remember watching the part that covers the original book. Pretty sure it didn't knock me out of my socks. It wasn't super-bad either tho.
The first one is fine and well above the average Syfy Channel standards, and the second one is a lot better.
https://twitter.com/RealChalamet/status/1291861260347351044
YOOOOOOOOOO
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1292212066842038272
Trailer or Teaser tho? Or something in between?
Anyway -- getting there --
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/d2jh3rRPt2a5A3VS/giphy.gif)
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1293447274631061504
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1296142669341761548 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1296142669341761548)
I guess we won't be seeing any pulled heart plugs in the trailer then. :(
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 19, 2020, 07:20:43 PM
I guess we won't be seeing any pulled heart plugs in the trailer then. :(
Perhaps some pugs, to make up for it.
I don't think pugs will make up for it. Weirding modules or GTFO.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 19, 2020, 07:28:23 PM
I don't think pugs will make up for it. Weirding modules or GTFO.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfzDDc3WAAAr6Uu?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/GraceRandolph/status/1296190749063753732
PLEASE be true...
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1296344942059692038
Wherezz ma trailer Villenorowsky?
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1296705840758640642
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 20, 2020, 07:45:04 PM
Wherezz ma trailer Villenorowsky?
Have you not already
foreseen it Mr.
Haderach?
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 21, 2020, 03:31:26 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 20, 2020, 07:45:04 PM
Wherezz ma trailer Villenorowsky?
Have you not already foreseen it Mr. Haderach?
Well, sure. I only asked cause I want non-awakened ones to see it too.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/26n6EULBMUNldrO2A/source.gif)
By the way my only complaint really:
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I'm way prettier than Timothee.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1297202063613603841
https://twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1297251306386657281
Some stills from the DUNC trailer:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgWmlZbWsAM1QRo?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgVtEJvWkAEZwoc?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgVtEJvXkAA3wV3?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgWyuI9X0AIKsp1?format=jpg&name=large)
Please release soon Mr. DUNC Trailer, thank you very much.
EDIT: Bautista as Rabban.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgWyuI9X0AIKsp1?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1298583669444141057 (https://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1298583669444141057)
https://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1298612106653310976 (https://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1298612106653310976)
Apparently the Gom Jabbar scene is in the trailer.
Exclusive material released theatrically in the middle of a pandemic when, in the US at least, it sure as hell isn't safe to be going to a theater, can absolutely f**k right off.
It's a very dumb decision because now the internet will be flooded with shoddy bootlegs of the theatrical exclusive trailer.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 26, 2020, 03:40:28 PM
It's a very dumb decision because now the internet will be flooded with shoddy bootlegs of the theatrical exclusive trailer.
Yep. And now that is going to be the first footage any of us see from the movie. f**king
wonderful.
Even in my wildest dreams I would never have expected that.
You shouldn't even watch the trailer. They reveal too much these days.
That's heresy, though.
TBH I'm starting to consider it after this. I didn't watch any of the Blade Runner 2049 material...
I might even make it till the 9th.
The again I was planning to watch Tenet therefore it gonna be extra hard to watch the teaser only once hnnnnn --
https://twitter.com/pachimari8/status/1298710885603528712
Gom Jabbar
Was it good?
Does it mean you decided to watch things? :D
Gom Jabbar?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_xWhF2sSb0
;D
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/e22dbd4ee2338d6c856d4331823a0a9b/tumblr_n4fgbrVj6S1rpf87xo7_400.gif)
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 26, 2020, 08:19:11 PM
Was it good?
Does it mean you decided to watch things? :D
I'll probably cave and watch the trailer when it drops. I have no willpower. :D
Here's the image again:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgX4FGbVAAQR4ca?format=png&name=small)
I gotta say there's something... dunno the right word... unspectacular (?) about a lot of the images.
And I really like that.
Somehow reminds me of the The Godfather.
(https://i.redd.it/fjg6smkflej51.jpg)
The Godfather is one of the big reference points that Denis pointed to a few months back when the first official images dropped.
God, I really want to see this stuff in motion. With all these images leaking, somebody has either the teaser attached to Tenet or the full trailer. If it is the former, I hope they just leak it now and get it done with.
I'm just glad it's Denis we ended up with.
Wasn't Peter Berg supposed to direct this for quite a while?
Never this incarnation, but yeah. Some time in the 2000s I believe. This version that we're getting was Denis from the ground up though. Legendary got the rights and immediately went to him with them.
Yeah, Berg was attached around 2008 with Josh Zetumer writing, and then Pierre Morrel was attached around 2010 with Chase Palmer writing.
https://twitter.com/pachimari8/status/1298726128534740992
!!!!!!
Wings! ;D
Flapping! ;D ;D
Just leak the whole damn teaser now, please.
Quality seems OKish, judging from those pics. Would definitely watch.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 26, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
You shouldn't even watch the trailer. They reveal too much these days.
Good point. I wouldn't want know how the movie ends... halfway through the book. ;-)
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 26, 2020, 08:55:16 PM
I'm just glad it's Denis we ended up with.
Wasn't Peter Berg supposed to direct this for quite a while?
Taylor Kitsch as Paul Atreides?
The guy who posted the pic of the Atreides Ornithopter also gave a description of the trailer:
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Quote- Warner Bros logo, Legendary logo in orange.
- Paul appears in a room with Mohiam and the box, close-up of the knife to his throat.
- A birdseye shot of the desert appears, flying over it.
- We are back in the room, close-up of Mohiam.
- Close-up shot of the Duke Leto. Then Jessica.
- Close-up of Stilgar with blue-within-blue eyes taking off his mask.
- Close-up of Chani.
- The Baron Vladimir coming out of some sort of mud.
- Close-up of Josh Brolin looking to the sunset.
- Dr. Yueh with his mark on his head.
- Liet Kynes close-up with a hoodie.
- Rabban close-up.
- Duncan in stillsuit with a scarf looking absolutely fierce.
- Paul screaming in anguish.
- Paul relaxes. Mohiam asks "What would you do?"
- Following up with a shot of Paul walking through his soldiers paddin his shoulder
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 26, 2020, 09:06:12 PM
https://twitter.com/pachimari8/status/1298726128534740992
!!!!!!
Well, it is how an ornithopter should work properly. I just can't imagine that would be a comfortable flight.
Do'h! There go my fillings!
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 26, 2020, 09:33:31 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 26, 2020, 08:55:16 PM
I'm just glad it's Denis we ended up with.
Wasn't Peter Berg supposed to direct this for quite a while?
Taylor Kitsch as Paul Atreides?
I actually found him OK in the second True Detective season.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 26, 2020, 09:35:16 PM
The guy who posted the pic of the Atreides Ornithopter also gave a description of the trailer:
Spoiler
Quote- Warner Bros logo, Legendary logo in orange.
- Paul appears in a room with Mohiam and the box, close-up of the knife to his throat.
- A birdseye shot of the desert appears, flying over it.
- We are back in the room, close-up of Mohiam.
- Close-up shot of the Duke Leto. Then Jessica.
- Close-up of Stilgar with blue-within-blue eyes taking off his mask.
- Close-up of Chani.
- The Baron Vladimir coming out of some sort of mud.
- Close-up of Josh Brolin looking to the sunset.
- Dr. Yueh with his mark on his head.
- Liet Kynes close-up with a hoodie.
- Rabban close-up.
- Duncan in stillsuit with a scarf looking absolutely fierce.
- Paul screaming in anguish.
- Paul relaxes. Mohiam asks "What would you do?"
- Following up with a shot of Paul walking through his soldiers paddin his shoulder
So basically the Lynch end credits. ;)
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Aug 26, 2020, 09:36:47 PM
Do'h! There go my fillings!
Spoiler
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y8jbAHwkqjQ/VSbHqlReMOI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/E0xjVFVZUh0/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/heart%2Bplug%2B1.jpg)
Now we just need Local Trouble to post a YouTube reaction video to the DUNC trailer description.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 26, 2020, 09:53:41 PM
Now we just need Local Trouble to post a YouTube reaction video to the DUNC trailer description.
I can't bring myself to look at it. I might be too tempted to talk about it and inadvertently spoil the whole story for kwisatz.
If only we met sooner this would still be a Peter Berg film about traveling dunes and exotic spices for me.
Peter Berg's Dune: With Mark Wahlberg as Duncan Idaho
:laugh:
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 26, 2020, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 26, 2020, 09:53:41 PM
Now we just need Local Trouble to post a YouTube reaction video to the DUNC trailer description.
I can't bring myself to look at it. I might be too tempted to talk about it and inadvertently spoil the whole story for kwisatz.
I see Warner/Legendary has been on a DMCA spree today, taking down many of yesterday's tweets and bootleg images. Alienating many of the fan accounts in the process that do a lot of free (and even better) marketing for them.
Little of course do they know that once something is on the internet it stays on the internet. Could have saved themselves a lot of trouble if they had just released the bloody trailer on the internet in the first place, ::)
The slipshod marketing so far has me a bit worried about Dune's chances at the box office, I'm starting to get the feeling we'll only ever get half the story.
Normally I'd be praising them for keeping their cards so close to their hand, but given the leaks and, even more so, the current state of the world, the way that they are handling this "marketing" is asinine.
Perhaps there's a method to their madness.
First look at the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egc1A-FXYAM6sKn?format=jpg&name=medium)
And the box of pain:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgcwAsxXYAEsZq1?format=jpg&name=large)
Oh my god he is absolutely disgusting and I love it.
Is that the same stuff that the Lynch version showered in before he pulled that kid's heart plug?
(https://play4.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/46036d8a-4817-442d-b7f0-c20f0306e9d3.jpg)
(https://play4.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/8ee890f9-58c2-41ff-8b77-734a785da4ad.jpg)
Drax is looking damn near Skrull-like.
Can't wait to see him eat raw cow tongue.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 27, 2020, 07:32:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egc1A-FXYAM6sKn?format=jpg&name=medium)
Quote from: Ingwar on Aug 27, 2020, 08:53:34 PM
(https://play4.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/46036d8a-4817-442d-b7f0-c20f0306e9d3.jpg)
What a beautiful family.
Really makes me wonder what Feyd will look like in Part 2.
The Harkonnens lack of hair might make it a little bit more difficult for audiences to pinpoint a certain characters lineage. :-\
(https://i.imgur.com/Izcdlb3.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/kr2C4hu.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/kFx2ZWr.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Q71KzKK.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/6lx5d1E.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/cPEkk3C.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/nnCYZNC.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/G2knPqU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/AaVWWDU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/91SKEVe.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/gDsXDYA.png)
Shit, we're all gonna end up watching the entire trailer via leaked stills! :laugh:
I wonder if there is available leaked video somewhere.
Haven't seen any yet. But we'll soon have enough stills to make our own trailer in a video editor.
Is that a bag-pipe the Duke is holding? Can Valaquen confirm?
It's gonna be like that reconstruction of London After Midnight that TCM aired years back. Entirely made of stills. :laugh:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 27, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Is that a bag-pipe the Duke is holding? Can Valaquen confirm?
It looks like. Trust me, I've been to Scotland ;D
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 27, 2020, 09:16:35 PM
It's gonna be like that reconstruction of London After Midnight that TCM aired years back. Entirely made of stills. :laugh:
Or, better yet, the Alan Smithee cut of DUNE ;)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 27, 2020, 09:18:37 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 27, 2020, 09:16:35 PM
It's gonna be like that reconstruction of London After Midnight that TCM aired years back. Entirely made of stills. :laugh:
Or, better yet, the Alan Smithee cut of DUNE ;)
:laugh:
Quote from: Ingwar on Aug 27, 2020, 09:17:36 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 27, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Is that a bag-pipe the Duke is holding? Can Valaquen confirm?
It looks like. Trust me, I've been to Scotland ;D
I knew the Atreides had atomics but never realized they had access to this kind of weaponry.
Also our first look at Dr. Yueh, DUNCan Idaho, and
Ms. Liet-Kynes.
Dang almost watched Tenet tonight, but then someone decided to go boozing instead.
Couldn't break through with my natural fascistic aura.
Tried to enter the cinema later on my own but it was closed olol --
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYwV9fWAAEgPu_?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYwV9dXcAEPDOy?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYwV9gX0AAwkh4?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://www.movienewsnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/dune18.png)
Spoiler
(https://fink.hamburg/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/okboomer-meme-know.jpg)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 27, 2020, 07:32:29 PM
First look at the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egc1A-FXYAM6sKn?format=jpg&name=medium)
Like Venus emerging from the sea shell. :laugh:
Has anyone here been to see Tenet yet? I've heard from people that there aren't even any trailers at all before it. Like the film begins at the showtime, no trailers or adverts before it.
Apparently the DUNC teaser will only be attached to Tenet from the 31st. Hence why we haven't seen dozens of bootleg recordings on the web yet.
So prophetic of Kwisatz to have gone boozing instead. :P
(https://cdn.onebauer.media/one/media/5f49/1182/9aad/da16/bff4/ffb2/empire-october-2020-cover-atreides.jpg?quality=50&width=700&ratio=1-1&resizeStyle=aspectfit&format=jpg)
(https://cdn.onebauer.media/one/media/5f49/119e/b50b/59c1/abd7/193c/empire-october-2020-cover-fremen.jpg?quality=50&width=700&ratio=1-1&resizeStyle=aspectfit&format=jpg)
(https://cdn.onebauer.media/one/media/5f49/11b7/b8b3/9b33/758f/d7fa/empire-october-2020-subscriber.jpg?quality=50&width=700&ratio=1-1&resizeStyle=aspectfit&format=jpg)
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/empire-dune-world-exclusive-covers-revealed/ (https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/empire-dune-world-exclusive-covers-revealed/)
Worm sign! Looks like concept art though?
Yup! Looks like! But also our very first look at the direction they seem to be going. Gotta say, not at all what I expected (I was thinking closer to the Lynch worms, since his are basically right off the book covers) but I think I'm liking this. Just need a view of it that is going to show it off more directly...
I like it. Looks like an eye too. You know me third eye etc etc --
There appear to be names (of the artist(s)?) under it. Jane Yun? Enrique Torres?
We have movie sign! ;D
It looks like a giant dilated anus.
The Baron's?
Canon.
Taking a royal dump on his grandson. I like it. Wait --
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 28, 2020, 04:31:11 PM
Taking a royal dump on his grandson. I like it. Wait --
Knowing the Baron...
HQ
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EghAQj5U4AEBbV2?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EghCbukU8AAeYs9?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EghC3AzUwAIe1fu?format=jpg&name=large)
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 28, 2020, 04:40:58 PM
HQ
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EghCbukU8AAeYs9?format=jpg&name=large)
Carryalls just to the left of Stilgar?
Quote(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EghAQj5U4AEBbV2?format=jpg&name=large)
Spice Harvester on left behind Halleck?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 28, 2020, 04:36:00 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 28, 2020, 04:31:11 PM
Taking a royal dump on his grandson. I like it. Wait --
Knowing the Baron...
Possibly emerging from a tub full of boy faeces in that teaser shot.
Local started it...
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZQRuCC4I3X0/VIoVmeEsCyI/AAAAAAACiL4/p8fRMnqlL_g/s1600/dune%2B08.gif)
Fortunately madness tends to jump a generation...
I'm sure his kids will be sharper tacks.
They might even Sting.
Quote from: irn on Aug 28, 2020, 12:05:29 AM
Has anyone here been to see Tenet yet? I've heard from people that there aren't even any trailers at all before it. Like the film begins at the showtime, no trailers or adverts before it.
Saw Tenet today. There were trailers but unfortunately not for DUNC. Got to see the Bill & Ted Face the Music one on the big screen at least.
Quote from: irn on Aug 28, 2020, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: irn on Aug 28, 2020, 12:05:29 AM
Has anyone here been to see Tenet yet? I've heard from people that there aren't even any trailers at all before it. Like the film begins at the showtime, no trailers or adverts before it.
Saw Tenet today. There were trailers but unfortunately not for DUNC. Got to see the Bill & Ted Face the Music one on the big screen at least.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 28, 2020, 03:26:14 PM
Apparently the DUNC teaser will only be attached to Tenet from the 31st. Hence why we haven't seen dozens of bootleg recordings on the web yet.
So prophetic of Kwisatz to have gone boozing instead. :P
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 28, 2020, 03:26:14 PM
Apparently the DUNC teaser will only be attached to Tenet from the 31st. Hence why we haven't seen dozens of bootleg recordings on the web yet.
So prophetic of Kwisatz to have gone boozing instead. :P
You could have posted that before I bought my Tenet ticket! ;D
We finally have a bootleg DUNC trailer online and unsurprisingly the quality is quite shyte. But yeah... yeah... ::)
https://twitter.com/ShotaKereselid2/status/1299801087189356549 (https://twitter.com/ShotaKereselid2/status/1299801087189356549)
Looks good I think? Can't wait to see the real version.
I'm going too skip out on watching this, I think...
Must resist... Got tickets for Tenet on Wednesday.
It's either teaser or some cleansing.
How's the music though?
If you have seen leaked photos then you have seen leaked teaser.
I already caved....... I watched it.
God, please hurry up and give me this full trailer. I need it....
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 29, 2020, 10:44:58 PM
Must resist... Got tickets for Tenet on Wednesday.
It's either teaser or some cleansing.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 26, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
You shouldn't even watch the trailer. They reveal too much these days.
Give me a good look at the Thopters you cowards.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 29, 2020, 11:45:49 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 29, 2020, 10:44:58 PM
Must resist... Got tickets for Tenet on Wednesday.
It's either teaser or some cleansing.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 26, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
You shouldn't even watch the trailer. They reveal too much these days.
I'll be too late anyway. Damn sandworms.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 29, 2020, 11:40:06 PM
I already caved....... I watched it.
NA obviously needs you more! ;D
NA can take care of himself. I'm more concerned about preserving your innocence.
The warmth --
Spoiler
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dune/images/5/53/Wladimir_Harkonnen_McMillan.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20200216190927&path-prefix=de)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEjLTA6huLb/?igshid=1kaamz1chd5is
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1300379657615925248
New image of the Duke and Halleck as well with our first look at one of the "oil lenses":
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgwpAtFWsAAM5Ld?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgwpA5bXYAIbF96?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgwpAdtWsAYacCC?format=jpg&name=medium)
Possibly Duncans last stand. I guess these are Harkonnen in armor then.
See no range weapons. The blinky things around the wrists might actually be body-shields.
That guy lying on the far left seem to have something huge around his wrist though. He was Mega Man --
All these tubes may implicate some form of neuronal controlled fighting suits. Maybe involving drugs...
Dune Is A Story Of When 'Enough Is Enough' For Exploited Cultures
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/dune-story-enough-is-enough-exploited-cultures-exclusive-images/
(https://cdn.onebauer.media/one/media/5f4e/1a83/305f/c206/d3cf/7d9b/dune-exclusive-5.jpg?quality=50&width=440&ratio=1-1&resizeStyle=aspectfit&format=jpg)
(https://cdn.onebauer.media/one/media/5f4e/1a88/4b53/cfb1/6aa9/26b2/dune-exclusive-4.jpg?quality=50&width=440&ratio=1-1&resizeStyle=aspectfit&format=jpg)
Higher res pics:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg0ncK-WoAYHqHs?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg0nORkX0AEQDJT?format=jpg&name=large)
Some bootleg scans from the new Empire magazine:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6PUdgXkAIXswc?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6PVXgWkAoJLHB?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6p2IkX0AEKBDg?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg580_VWoAU9Xgz?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg581TpXsAA0kDR?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg581e0X0AIP-DE?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1301174157573599233
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg8omHPWoAEVHhW?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg8m4g4WAAIZ2yg?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg8kteNXsAINR9H?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg8kdYhXsAEOqQ8?format=jpg&name=900x900)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg8kdaGXgAAhGEQ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
There's a Starwarish vibe in the third image :P
(https://i.ibb.co/HGSK9T2/860755a16ee63abc8182422ecfb86da2.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/1qQpV9S/medium-pl-star-wars-attack-clones-episode-widescreen-movie-original-imaetdv9grhbhuxh.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/kqmxBz1/star-wars-episode-ii-lattaque-des-clones-91105.jpg)
Aye, that big army shot definitely makes me think we're actually going to be seeing the raid on the Harkonnen spice stores in the film, which was only discussed from the sidelines in the novel. That would do well to give this first part of the story a big action scene, and would also be a good opportunity to use Dave Bautista's Beast Rabban in a larger role than if they stuck purely to what was on the page.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg8rjHcWoAEuJqN?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Although I agree an Atreides spice raid would be great, I suspect these are (just) Harkonnen/Sardaukar troops preparing to wipe out the Atreides on Dune.
Tenet was great but no teaser. :'(
Help me Local I'm this close watching the pixel version. Mainly wanna find out what the music is like...
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 03, 2020, 12:52:48 AM
Although I agree an Atreides spice raid would be great, I suspect these are (just) Harkonnen/Sardaukar troops preparing to wipe out the Atreides on Dune.
Tenet was great but no teaser. :'(
Help me Local I'm this close watching the pixel version. Mainly wanna find out what the music is like...
Stay strong Kwisatz, you don't want to spoil the story of Dune! ;)
(Seriously, I would just watch the pixel version. You have foreseen the ending. You are the Kwisatz Haderach and we all know about your prescience.)
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 03, 2020, 12:52:48 AMTenet was great but no teaser. :'(
I called ahead and told them you were coming. My influence is far-reaching.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 03, 2020, 12:52:48 AMHelp me Local I'm this close watching the pixel version. Mainly wanna find out what the music is like...
Nein! >:(
I'm seeing Tenet on Saturday, will report back if there's a teaser or not.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 03, 2020, 03:11:59 AM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 03, 2020, 12:52:48 AMTenet was great but no teaser. :'(
I called ahead and told them you were coming. My influence is far-reaching.
Should've realised sooner. It's the Missionaria Protectiva at work here.
No Bene Gesserit witch is gonna stop me on the 9th though.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 03, 2020, 12:02:04 AM
There's a Starwarish vibe in the third image :P
Was my first thought as well.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 03, 2020, 12:52:48 AM
Help me Local I'm this close watching the pixel version. Mainly wanna find out what the music is like...
The music sounded good and oddly familiar but horribly distorted like a cheap speaker playing inside a tin can.
Little more HQ
(https://sm.ign.com/ign_hu/screenshot/default/118700503-2848628808747727-4200135671603610637-n_qkgu.jpg)
(https://sm.ign.com/ign_hu/screenshot/default/118821058-2797336123702080-641750737625780605-n_m6q1.jpg)
(https://sm.ign.com/ign_hu/screenshot/default/118769652-3445624728995407-4562050442154794379-n_rjg1.jpg)
(https://sm.ign.com/ign_hu/screenshot/default/118560980-351277249580257-3224689490545393877-n_w9y6.jpg)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 03, 2020, 05:41:23 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 03, 2020, 12:02:04 AM
There's a Starwarish vibe in the third image :P
Was my first thought as well.
I am not an expert on Herbert's works but the scale, the color palette, the troops, capital ships; everything seems to scream
"watch out! epic space opera siege on the way". It even reminds me of the most recent SW flicks. :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/MVf680J/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-star-destroyer-fleet-1371616-768x320.jpg)
Full mural from that one shot.
(https://i.redd.it/lebiolofa1l51.jpg)
See the gang?
That looks like a set from David Lynch's Dune. He directed the first adaptation of the book back in 1984.
Is there a trailer?
Yes, but you shouldn't watch it. Those damn dust covers have already given too much away. >:(
Ja OK, couldn't resist this one. Pretty acceptable quality that is:
https://streamable.com/ayfdvb (https://streamable.com/ayfdvb)
Don't tell Local.
I'd say the music is Zimmer doing Zimmer-things but it still got me when the credits roll and the more melodic part kicks in.
My favourite part is a mere detail: Paul's first unrestrained reaction/scream is heard when the Baron is ascending from that fluid. Some great editing there. Gives the menace sort of a physicality by combining the scream and the massive corporeal presence that is about to emerge.
Question: Does the fact that Spaihts is listed first place writingwise indicate (unambiguously) that his contribution is either the biggest or at least the same amount as the others?
Spaihts is indeed the main writer, and has already been hired for part two...
Hm is a bit of a drop of bitterniss for me tbh. Hope he has improved or is compensated by Herbert/Villeneuve/Roth.
Btw I just wondered if DV took some inspiration from:
(https://i.imgur.com/aaEmI26.gif)
;D
Yeah, Spaihts' heavy involvement has me worried a bit as well but then, on the other hand, it is Denis Villeneuve pulling his strings so... hopefully it all balances out?
Judging from the teaser and the stills they seem to stick as close to the source material as it gets. I bet that even involves dialogue (Why alter Herbert's stuff here after all?). Maybe like they did with LotR but even more so.
This possibly means that the directing is 70-80% of the final product. And thats DV. And that sorta makes me cautiously optimisitic.
Enhanced for hype:
(https://i.imgur.com/5H8uqca.jpg)
I get the AOTC references but honestly Lynch was first:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/49/3f/b4493f7ffaa84a36901490c49d4fa3ba.jpg)
Or, well, this (these) c**t(s):
(https://www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning/_assets/www.moma.org/wp/moma_learning/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Triumph-of-Will-469x370.jpg)
Wonder if it's just a statue or some sort of monstrous speaker's desk.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 04, 2020, 10:34:45 PM
Or, well, this (these) c**t(s):
https://www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning/_assets/www.moma.org/wp/moma_learning/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Triumph-of-Will-469x370.jpg
Nah, they just copied it from the Romans:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xzYnPrarCqQ/maxresdefault.jpg)
Indeed. Yet the aforementioned c**t in singular did a few original things on film, I suppose. It helped that she didn't have to pay the numerous 'extras' though. ::) :(
Another thing, or maybe I'm just late to the party. Blurred dude on the right in the background in full armour:
(https://i.imgur.com/3AxStRo.jpg)
Could the helmet actually be like:
(https://www.kreiszeitung.de/bilder/2011/10/20/1453716/327333841-341_008_2008418_ban_falke-13a7.jpg)
If designed well this would be g l o r i o u s imo.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 04, 2020, 09:36:33 PM
Ja OK, couldn't resist this one. Pretty acceptable quality that is:
https://streamable.com/ayfdvb (https://streamable.com/ayfdvb)
Don't tell Local.
(https://i.imgur.com/Batq5xQ.jpeg)
Good news is I'm now de facto contemplating not watching the big one in a week. With the stills and the teaser I feel like I have just seen enough.
Will I be able to pull it off? That obviously is a different matter altogether...
The teaser played before Tenet today. It was pretty cool.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 04, 2020, 10:34:45 PM
Judging from the teaser and the stills they seem to stick as close to the source material as it gets. I bet that even involves dialogue (Why alter Herbert's stuff here after all?). Maybe like they did with LotR but even more so.
This possibly means that the directing is 70-80% of the final product. And thats DV. And that sorta makes me cautiously optimisitic.
Enhanced for hype:
(https://i.imgur.com/5H8uqca.jpg)
I get the AOTC references but honestly Lynch was first:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/49/3f/b4493f7ffaa84a36901490c49d4fa3ba.jpg)
Or, well, this (these) c**t(s):
https://www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning/_assets/www.moma.org/wp/moma_learning/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Triumph-of-Will-469x370.jpg
Wonder if it's just a statue or some sort of monstrous speaker's desk.
Every time I look at these crazy military formation images I think to myself that there is at least one guy standing there going, I have to pee! I have to pee!
In the case of the Clone Troopers, if they all drank the same amount at the same time, would they also all have to pee at the same exact time?
They were probably engineered to hold it like a camel.
Now that is why the Fremen are superior soldiers:
Spoiler
Stillsuits
Beter quality image of the one from previous page:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhLIX76XkAAfkif?format=jpg&name=large)
That's actually a genuine knife fighting stance with his left hand open and positioned in front of his most vulnerable bodypart - his throat.
His grip on the knife is way too loose though.
Gurney should give him a good scar to remind him.
Gurney shouldn't let him off that easy, a few notes from Gurney's bagpipes in an enclosed space should hammer home the lesson sufficiently.
Gurney will teach him how to balance the fight properly.
hmmmmmm
Thinking about leaving the thread before the next wave....
But undecided... Stills but no trailer maybe? ???
Oh ffs, just read the damned book man. Then you don't have to worry about spoilers. :P
What if the trailer spoils the book?
He's got two days to read the book. Do-able.
Only has to get through half of it, technically. ;)
True that. :laugh:
Alas, it is too bad that the book will spoil the trailer. :-\
Quite the conundrum... :-\
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 07, 2020, 09:45:39 PM
Only has to get through half of it, technically. ;)
Being a completionist, I'd have to start with the Kevin J./Brian Herbert stuff. :'(
Yeah but what if one of the prequel books spoils the main book for you? :-\
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Spoilers within spoilers
Is there a consensus yet on whether The Terminator or The Matrix would serve as a better Butlerian Jihad prequel?
"Cast" trailer
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1303362649057406976
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 08, 2020, 03:38:42 PM
Yeah but what if one of the prequel books spoils the main book for you? :-\
Spoiler
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Spoilers within spoilers
I've come to the decision to skip this entry entirely and wait for the next cinematization: photorealistic sandworms and you'll be able to actually smell the Spice. And the Fremen.
Or I just wait a tad longer and my neighborhood is gonna look like Sietch Tabr anyway.
Edit: OK I'm back in :P
(https://preview.redd.it/915b3bf62zl51.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=fd6ea06b12e9eb8129db86d1b62edb9948370960)
https://preview.redd.it/nf572lu6uzl51.gif?format=mp4&s=336816520c96d7084b5da8417d6dedc53b1af0b1 (https://preview.redd.it/nf572lu6uzl51.gif?format=mp4&s=336816520c96d7084b5da8417d6dedc53b1af0b1)
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 12:47:50 AM
I've come to the decision to skip this entry entirely and wait for the next cinematization: photorealistic sandworms and you'll be able to actually smell the Spice. And the Fremen.
What if you skip this particular movie but then watch Denis' adaptation of the second half of the novel without the context of the first half? It can be, like, your own personal Gom Jabbar!
What adaptation of the second half though?
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Really shouldn't joke about that...
Yeah, on second though, forget I made a joke about that... especially considering the final box office results of Blade Runner 2049. :-X
May the Timothée Chalamet obsessed denizens of the internet show up in droves and buy vast quantities of tickets, thus guaranteeing a successful box office and an adaptation of the second half!
I'm not entirely sure I want my cinema full of raving teen girls (then again...)
Otherwise i wholeheartedly agree.
Btw: Where's Piter?
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 01:34:42 AM
Btw: Where's Piter?
More importantly, where are his eyebrows?
Extended version of yeasterdays teaser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67qR5Ke_A2Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67qR5Ke_A2Q)
How freakin awsome is the combination of Spice eyes and dark skin? :o :o
Harkonnen escorting Yueh totally remind of Lynch:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQXsH4nid272HRZ0ULF3liByJi7q2nnKwkOxw&usqp=CAU)
Cast Q&A:
https://twitter.com/TwitterMovies/status/1303725610666274817 (https://twitter.com/TwitterMovies/status/1303725610666274817)
ooooh thx --
Trailer subsequently?
Oh wait this isn't live?
Closed the window. Need to eat something first. :D
The DUNC trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xhJrPXop4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xhJrPXop4)
Does it show much or much? :'(
Local to the rescue...
I now know more about Dune than I did five minutes ago, which still isn't much. :D
Movie looks grand though. A movie that deserves to be seen on the big screen, for sure.
DUNE!
Is Piter in it? And his eyebrows?
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 04:22:25 PM
Does it show much or much? :'(
Local to the rescue...
Don't even attempt to sneak a peek. Local is watching you:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eha_l_xXcAEqDwh?format=jpg&name=large)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 09, 2020, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 04:22:25 PM
Does it show much or much? :'(
Local to the rescue...
Don't even attempt to sneak a peek. Local is watching you:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/f7/ac/bcf7ac8af69d26c922cc6cb7294d961e.jpg)
This really does feel basically 1:1 worth weekday I visualized when reading.
Help me I can't stop watching the trailer...
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 04:41:42 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/f7/ac/bcf7ac8af69d26c922cc6cb7294d961e.jpg)
https://twitter.com/RaisedWolvesMAX/status/1303451313611722752 (https://twitter.com/RaisedWolvesMAX/status/1303451313611722752)
awww man... Three minutes... Is it like that final Tenet trailer that literally showed 80% of the film?
I wanna see it... but strange... I feel like - with the help of the recent stills and teaser - I could actually make it till December this time...
I got you a screengrab of Piter de Vries. That should tide you over 'till December:
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(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gladiator2000/images/3/34/Cassius.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/300/height/300?cb=20101229023929)
;D
Does it give any hint where the movie might stop? Something post-timeshift (in the book)? Paul or Jessica with blue eyes?
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They showed Paul with the Fremen (and Chani descending a cliff) so I guess just after they run into them, after escaping the Harkonens.
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I see them cliffhanging the Jamis fight and then no sequel lul. :-X
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Ha, that would be a laugh. Better just to give them an apparent happy ending with Fremen asylum.
QuoteIn case anyone was wondering, the cover song in the trailer is from Pink Floyd's 1973 album "Dark Side of the Moon".
The song is called "Eclipse" which fits with the #Dune logo too!
Oddly, Pink Floyd were going to do the music for Jodorowsky's Dune, and Jodorowsky met them in Abbey Road where they were mixing "Dark Side of the Moon"
Plans within plans...
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1303740721413922817 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1303740721413922817)
Good trailer, tense and beautiful.
Production design is meh. The world is too clean, where is creativity?
Don't make me get biblical up in here. >:(
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcHrVyqJ.jpg&hash=44fd2ae36bcf808b3816b4681af4e3cc43bd1f10)
Woooow that trailer. The shields, thopters, and the worm look amazing. And the Pink Floyd was much appreciated even if it was a cover.
Quote from: Stolen on Sep 09, 2020, 06:44:00 PM
Good trailer, tense and beautiful.
Production design is meh. The world is too clean, where is creativity?
Yeah, that's my gripe as well. I think Lynch's Dune was much more interesting visually with it's baroque/steampunk feel.
And although the trailer music is interesting from a symbolic and historical point of view I don't really think it suits the trailer that well.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 09, 2020, 07:33:27 PM
Yeah, that's my gripe as well. I think Lynch's Dune was much more interesting visually with it's baroque/steampunk feel.
I'm not actually disagreeing but I think by not going with a more stylized look Denis' films feel more realistic, unmediated. He's more Coppola than Kubrick (or Ridley for that matter).
QuoteAnd although the trailer music is interesting from a symbolic and historical point of view I don't really think it suits the trailer that well.
Seems to be a trend in Hollywood lately (Tenet, Batman). Not a fan either. I'm sure the movie will be clear of this kind of stuff though.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 08:01:47 PM
I'm not actually disagreeing but I think by not going with a more stylized look Denis' films feel more realistic, unmediated. He's more Coppola than Kubrick (or Ridley for that matter).
Yeah, I definitely think it looks a lot more realistic. But realism is often boring, and many of the designs just look a bit uninspired. Loved how Ridley went with a retro 70's sci-fi look for Wolves on the other hand.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 08:01:47 PM
Seems to be a trend in Hollywood lately (Tenet, Batman). Not a fan either. I'm sure the movie will be clear of this kind of stuff though.
And that Nature Boy cover for the first Alien Covenant trailer, sure it's clever with regards to the lyrics pertaining to David but it was a horrible choice for the trailer. Like putting Marmite or Tabasco sauce on pancakes.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 09, 2020, 08:11:20 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 08:01:47 PM
I'm not actually disagreeing but I think by not going with a more stylized look Denis' films feel more realistic, unmediated. He's more Coppola than Kubrick (or Ridley for that matter).
Yeah, I definitely think it looks a lot more realistic. But realism is often boring, and many of the designs just look a bit uninspired. Loved how Ridley went with a retro 70's sci-fi look for Wolves on the other hand.
At the end of the day this is more a question of taste than anything else. Personally I'm a sucker for how he mixes the minimalistic approach with some sort of brutalistic aesthetic and yet keeps everything inside a (expanded) realistic realm:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/pbblogassets/uploads/2017/10/Blade_Runner_Lighting_Library.jpg)
But I definitely prefer the kinda biomechanic 1984 stillsuits over the actual ones, for example. The comparison with a Motocross protector suit is not that far off..
Only God (Local) knows what's objectively superior --
I cannot wait to see this on big screen.
(https://theflick.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/First-trailer-for-Denis-Villeneuves-sci-fi-epic-Dune.jpg)
AHEM, no Piter!??
@Eighth Passenger
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2:11 looks suspiciously like the Jamis fight (and Paul winning it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sEZtl1LKXo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sEZtl1LKXo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSHGIaWprYM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSHGIaWprYM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0WfLEf2lzU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0WfLEf2lzU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=608HYWIKtNE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=608HYWIKtNE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDRHnjgijXQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDRHnjgijXQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Hr_I1Psfc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Hr_I1Psfc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdT4zyFopvk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdT4zyFopvk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFs8_X1ahU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFs8_X1ahU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN0ZCunjwkM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN0ZCunjwkM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGyhtry3qEs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGyhtry3qEs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g94C5TpMWrI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g94C5TpMWrI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJIrgp6YH8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJIrgp6YH8)
So,
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blue is too fast, red is the water belongs to the tribe?
0:28/0:29
The nervous convulsions in his face. I suspect
the voice of causing them.
Floyd in the trailer - sign me up.
Quote from: SM on Sep 09, 2020, 11:45:35 PM
Floyd in the trailer - sign me up.
Jodorowsy getting his last laugh in. :D
Quote from: Ingwar on Sep 09, 2020, 09:28:42 PM
I cannot wait to see this on big screen.
(https://theflick.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/First-trailer-for-Denis-Villeneuves-sci-fi-epic-Dune.jpg)
I liked the design. It looks very real and scares me a little. It has an astronomical object vibe.
(https://i.ibb.co/C7QTpNq/tenor-1.gif)
Add to that the fact that I liked the Ornithopters 8)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 10, 2020, 01:10:53 AM
Add to that the fact that I liked the Ornithopters 8)
I am so very happy that they did the dragonfly build for them.
So very in love with the worms here. Apart from the worms, basically everything I'm seeing here looks pretty much 1:1 like what I imagined in my mind when reading. I saw the worms as much closer to Lynch's version, but I am so into this new take on them. They feel immense, and looking at them head on is like staring into an eye, or a black hole.
But where is the giant dick from the Giger painting? ;D
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 10, 2020, 03:37:11 AM
But where is the giant dick from the Giger painting? ;D
Pretty sure David is cooking it up on the Covenant as we speak.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 10, 2020, 03:37:56 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 10, 2020, 03:37:11 AM
But where is the giant dick from the Giger painting? ;D
Pretty sure David is cooking it up on the Covenant as we speak.
So that's what Riddles means by "in process". ;D
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 10, 2020, 03:40:25 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 10, 2020, 03:37:56 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 10, 2020, 03:37:11 AM
But where is the giant dick from the Giger painting? ;D
Pretty sure David is cooking it up on the Covenant as we speak.
So that's what Riddles means by "in process". ;D
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CnOy051aTJo/maxresdefault.jpg)
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ktGiDRisMJX7-yzt-uQqIzt3uDE=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/21866601/Glossu_Rabban_dune_2020.jpg)
Makes you think, huh? :P
It is gonna flop sooo hard. They spent $200 million dollars making a movie that is based on the first half of a novel that most moviegoers have never even heard of let alone read. So you are only getting half a story. What were they thinking? It will never make enough to justify the second movie.
In my opinion this looks very clean
Like....super clean, almost sterile.
Which was my complaint about Blade Runner 2049, and now it is happening to Dunc as well.
Not blown away by the look, and the sets. Think it needs more texture.
So cant say im too hyped for it.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 09:55:52 PM
AHEM, no Piter!??
@Eighth Passenger
Spoiler
2:11 looks suspiciously like the Jamis fight (and Paul winning it)
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Yeah it does, although in the book the fight took place within a cave with both combatants stripped naked IIRC. My guess is that the film will end soon after that fight after Paul and Jessica are accepted among the Fremen. At least it is kind of a decent ending if there is to be no second movie.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 09, 2020, 11:33:50 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2020, 04:30:19 PM
DUNE!
DUDE!
DUNE!!!!
You are both WRONG. It is DUN
C!!!!!!!!! :P
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 10, 2020, 12:23:20 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 09, 2020, 11:45:35 PM
Floyd in the trailer - sign me up.
Jodorowsy getting his last laugh in. :D
I guess it is kind of a salute from Villeneuve to Jodo. Did Jodo say he was going to watch this? Think he declined to watch Lynch's version?
Quote from: Ridlazz921 on Sep 10, 2020, 11:37:30 AM
In my opinion this looks very clean
Like....super clean, almost sterile.
Which was my complaint about Blade Runner 2049, and now it is happening to Dunc as well.
Not blown away by the look, and the sets. Think it needs more texture.
So cant say im too hyped for it.
Yep, Blade Runner 2049 simply did not look like Ridley's Blade Runner world. At least with DUN
C he doesn't have to continue from an established look, since this is his own vision he can pretty much do as he pleases.
Stil... would have loved to see a post Blade Runner Ridley directing Dune, with Giger, Ron Cobb and Moebius onboard.
Jodo watched Lynch's in the theater, to make peace with it – he was nervous as all f**k going in, and then said as the movie kept going he became overjoyed when he realized it was awful. :D
IIRC he tells this story in the Jodorowsky's Dune doc.
Oh yeah!! I remember that now! :laugh:
Here's the clip, funny as hell the way he tells it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ7YZXeI54s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ7YZXeI54s)
Trailer looked good to me. I'll go see it.
The Eighth Passenger:
Yeah that would have been something.
According to the BR documentary he was supposed to do it after Alien.
They said that their set were being built, and then it just didnt happen.
But i have not been able to find any pictures of the sets, or even some concept art.
Which is strange since we were able to find the concept art for Tristian and Iseult, that we talked about earlier.
Wonder if that Arzach hat would have made an guest apperance on his Dune ;)
Just about the only detail we know about the Scott version is that the screenwriter inserted an incestuous relationship between Paul and Jessica. Yeah...
Some call it incest. Others 'maintaining the bloodline'.
The possibility of Paul and Alia being a thing does get discussed in the sequels...
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 11, 2020, 01:34:37 AM
The possibility of Paul and Alia being a thing does get discussed in the sequels...
Paul also compares himself to Hitler...
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 11, 2020, 01:35:25 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 11, 2020, 01:34:37 AM
The possibility of Paul and Alia being a thing does get discussed in the sequels...
Paul also compares himself to Hitler...
:laugh: Geli...
IIRC Leto II and Ghanima discuss whether 'it' is eventually an essential part of the Golden Path.
Frank, Frank, Frank...
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 11, 2020, 01:35:25 AM
Paul also compares himself to Hitler...
Which is pretty apt, considering all of the atrocities that he ushers in.
It looks great! I can wait to see it.
Wonder Woman 1984 just pushed to December, so it is only a matter of time now before this moves to 2021.
Then the recent marketing offensive was pretty anticlimatic, dumb, amateurish, I'd say.
Quote from: Ridlazz921 on Sep 11, 2020, 12:58:07 AM
The Eighth Passenger:
Yeah that would have been something.
According to the BR documentary he was supposed to do it after Alien.
They said that their set were being built, and then it just didnt happen.
But i have not been able to find any pictures of the sets, or even some concept art.
Which is strange since we were able to find the concept art for Tristian and Iseult, that we talked about earlier.
Wonder if that Arzach hat would have made an guest apperance on his Dune ;)
Yeah Scott worked on Dune for about 7 months so there must at least be some Ridleygrams around. I very much doubt "sets were being built" as described by Paul M. Sammon in Dangerous Days since Rudolph Wurlitzer only handed in the first draft of the screenplay shortly before Ridley's departure. One doesn't burn money on sets that early.
Interestingly, Ridley's Dune would also have been split into two movies. It seems Villeneuve is finishing up all Ridley's unrealized projects these days, Blade Runner 2, Dune...
And he had a contribution to that Alien: 40 Years 40 Artists book to boot. ;)
What a hack xD
someone has created a video which places the new Dune trailer side by side with similar shots from Lynch's version of the story. Check out the comparison below.
https://www.slashfilm.com/dune-trailer-side-by-side/
I'd say this partly due to this book.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 11, 2020, 01:35:25 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 11, 2020, 01:34:37 AM
The possibility of Paul and Alia being a thing does get discussed in the sequels...
Paul also compares himself to Hitler...
Spoiler
Well,... he becomes Hitler
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 12, 2020, 04:35:59 AM
I'd say this partly due to this book.
So Kwisatz, you presumably chose your name based on your love of Dune, well before this new film became a thing. How hard core are you? Just curious. I read 95% of all the novels. Just a few left.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 12, 2020, 04:31:57 PM
So Kwisatz, you presumably chose your name based on your love of Dune, well before this new film became a thing.
No he didn't! It's just a coincidence! Don't spoil it any more for him than you already have! >:(
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 12, 2020, 09:14:15 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 12, 2020, 04:31:57 PM
So Kwisatz, you presumably chose your name based on your love of Dune, well before this new film became a thing.
No he didn't! It's just a coincidence! Don't spoil it any more for him than you already have! >:(
Man I wasn't trying to spoil it for him. Honest! Do you think he knows there is more than one Dune novel? ;)
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1305571948638937088
Nice to see they're going to adapt DUNC into a novelization.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 14, 2020, 06:47:58 PM
Nice to see they're going to adapt DUNC into a novelization.
:laugh: Should ask ADF to do it.
Reminds me of the time when they asked Phillip K. Dick to do a Blade Runner novelization.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 14, 2020, 06:55:20 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 14, 2020, 06:47:58 PM
Nice to see they're going to adapt DUNC into a novelization.
:laugh: Should ask ADF to do it.
Reminds me of the time when they asked Phillip K. Dick to do a Blade Runner novelization.
Lol! Did that really happen?
Yeah, Dick just told 'em to f*ck right off. :laugh:
That was a good Dick move! 8)
That being said, all we need is an edit of Herbert's book which changes the gender of Keynes and we're set...
Jodorowsky Reviews Villeneuve's 'Dune' Trailer
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/09/jodorowsky-reviews-villeneuve-dune-trailer-predictable-1234586462/
The new DUNC toys revealed. No word yet whether weirding modules will be included but the Beast Rabban does come with an inkvine wip,
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh4nYMrXcAAWqy7?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh9zKAiXcAEVGn2?format=jpg&name=medium)
Rabban is actually a build a figure, so you have to get all the others in order to collect the pieces to make puffy Dave Bautista.
So every time you buy a figure you get a little piece of Rabban? And then you assemble him when you've collected them all?
BTS footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ozOhq86Jk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ozOhq86Jk)
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1305563387661778945 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1305563387661778945)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 15, 2020, 08:55:59 PM
So every time you buy a figure you get a little piece of Rabban? And then you assemble him when you've collected them all?
Yup. Hasbro does the same thing with a lot of their figure lines, namely the Marvel Legends stuff. I think Mattel does it as well.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1306256648961503235
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 03, 2020, 05:41:23 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 03, 2020, 12:52:48 AM
Help me Local I'm this close watching the pixel version. Mainly wanna find out what the music is like...
The music sounded good and oddly familiar...
First ten seconds or so:
https://youtu.be/Y8OAUNzYYtA?t=64 (https://youtu.be/Y8OAUNzYYtA?t=64)
Compared to:
https://youtu.be/mfW4pefWaiI?t=64 (https://youtu.be/mfW4pefWaiI?t=64)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 16, 2020, 06:48:14 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1306256648961503235
Wait... aren't all the other figures 7-inches? Either the Baron's going to be truly gigantic in the film or he won't fit in with the rest of the collection. :laugh:
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DelectableElatedHadrosaurus-size_restricted.gif)
The figurine doesn't actually look all that fat, not grossly fat enough to require a suspensor harness at any rate. I mean, you can see guys like that at your local mall or McDonald's ambling along. :-\
Quote from: SM on Sep 17, 2020, 03:00:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8OAUNzYYtA
I don't think it will be in the film. It's a music composed for the trailer.
mmm..i don't like it.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 17, 2020, 03:58:36 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 03, 2020, 05:41:23 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 03, 2020, 12:52:48 AM
Help me Local I'm this close watching the pixel version. Mainly wanna find out what the music is like...
The music sounded good and oddly familiar...
First ten seconds or so:
https://youtu.be/Y8OAUNzYYtA?t=64 (https://youtu.be/Y8OAUNzYYtA?t=64)
Compared to:
https://youtu.be/mfW4pefWaiI?t=64 (https://youtu.be/mfW4pefWaiI?t=64)
Is that snowfall on Arrakis?
Think I can hear what you mean. I'd say it's a pretty common 'sequence' in modern film scores though. Kinda gives me Original Terminator theme vibes too. Well a bit at least...
But Floyd and Arabic influences aside and if the beginning (00:00 - 01:10) is more of an indicator for the 'actual' music in the film I'd say Zimmer is possibly influenced (and or vice versa) by artists like Paul Jebanasam (the stop&go aspect) and Roly Porter. A good thing in my book. Love the heaviness and the level of experimentalism. It's a bit risky too, which is more often a good thing than not imo. And for Dune anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRwjbyHO8ao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRwjbyHO8ao)
Of course the middle part is way over the top for any (high budget) film score. But BR2049 actually incorporated quite 'out there' musical elements too. Quite a risky because over the top atmospheric soundtrack but when the melody finally kicks in it feels kinda earned:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipGNuFXubL8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipGNuFXubL8)
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 12, 2020, 04:31:57 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 12, 2020, 04:35:59 AM
I'd say this partly due to this book.
So Kwisatz, you presumably chose your name based on your love of Dune, well before this new film became a thing. How hard core are you? Just curious. I read 95% of all the novels. Just a few left.
I only read the Herbert stuff though and decades ago so don't put my knowledge to an acid test. I reread the original book two years ago I think and together with the Lynch film which I watched fairly often in it's various versions I'm able to remember bits and pieces.
. . .
Ok I'm just a huge Peter Berg fan and read the dust cover when I heard he was going to make a film called
Dune --
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 17, 2020, 07:53:29 PM
Is that snowfall on Arrakis?
Looks like raindrops running down a window to me. "I bless the rains down in Arrakis".
I found BR2049's music mostly texture rather than actual melody ala Vangelis.
Original is definitely more melodic while BR2049s is more atmospheric.
And the melodic parts in BR2049 are way more 'sprawled out' to keep them atmospheric too if that makes any sense. :laugh:
And of course there are way more melodies per se in the Original, which is the most astonishing thing imo to realize how much Vangelis came up with.
The KoH soundtrack is excellent btw. Love the sequence that plays during the Intermission of the DC.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1306852689582620672
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1306948182157471744
He floats!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 18, 2020, 12:28:24 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1306852689582620672
There is some concept art as well:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiMssMEWAAI-VQY?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiMsuCCXgAAbfav?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiMsuzJXsAAHj1D?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 18, 2020, 12:28:24 PM
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1306948182157471744
He floats!
Baron's definitely got a pole up his ass.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiM8E5AWsAERa2c?format=jpg&name=small)
Only Feyd gets to play with that pogo stick.
Isn't the Baron supposed to be covered in sores and pustules?
Quote from: SiL on Sep 19, 2020, 06:20:59 AM
Isn't the Baron supposed to be covered in sores and pustules?
I'm reading the book right now and he isn't described as such when he first appears, but I'm only about 16% of the way through the book so far (according to my Kindle) so maybe it gets mentioned later.
Vangelis was sorely missed in BR 2049. He was such an integral part of BR. And yes, it is about the melody for sure.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 19, 2020, 06:20:59 AM
Isn't the Baron supposed to be covered in sores and pustules?
That was made up for the Lynch movie.
Thanks for clarifying!
Interview with Carlos Huante by one of AVP Galaxy's members, Whos Nick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb0ztSvFHwE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb0ztSvFHwE)
Dune TV spot #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XqBYJrhJc4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XqBYJrhJc4)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 19, 2020, 01:29:27 PM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 19, 2020, 06:20:59 AM
Isn't the Baron supposed to be covered in sores and pustules?
That was made up for the Lynch movie.
Lynch added a lot of things to his movie version of 'DUNE'. The pustules on the baron, squashing the rats and drinking the "squood" fluid. The whole Atriedes "weirding module" and fighting against the Harkonnens and Sardukar using sound elements were all introduced by Lynch. There's tons of other diversions as well, such as the Guild Navigators ability to "fold space" instead ow what Herbert describes in the book. The spice makes 'em perceive safe and optimised paths through space. The ornithopters don't have flapping wings and son on. I'm pretty sure the fremen should be wearing cloaks - these and others are among changes Lynch brought on board. ...and so on and so forth.
We've already seen changes in the Villeneuve version, too. Straight off the bat, Dr. Kynes is now a woman, for example. There will be more changes, too. Film makers will always bring their own interpretation to a property. We have seen it happen with every 'ALIEN' movie to date. I expect the new 'DUNE' movie will be laden with them, too.
-Windebieste.
When LOTR films came out, one of my friends, a long time LOTR fan was very upset with the deviations that were made for the films. I didn't understand him then, but I understand him now. As a fan of Dune who's read most of the books including the pre-post-quels, I dislike that Kynes is a woman. I don't have any issue with Wiman actors. That would be absurd. But I don't like changes to the book being made. This is now the 4th attempt to make a big production Dune film. The fans want something more true to the book with each new version, not politically driven changes to the author's vision.
Eh. I adore the book. Read it twice. Kynes being a woman is totally fine.
You're never going to be able to adapt anything 1:1, and if you try to, the adapted material is going to suffer for it. Kynes being a woman streamlines the Kynes/Chani/Stilgar relationship (Stilgar will likely be Chani's father instead of her uncle in this iteration). None of this messes with the intent or meaning of the book or these characters in any way, in my opinion.
Also, I don't really see this change as being "politically driven" but even if it was, who cares? Dune is an incredibly political story anyways. :D
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 20, 2020, 07:50:36 PM
When LOTR films came out, one of my friends, a long time LOTR fan was very upset with the deviations that were made for the films. I didn't understand him then, but I understand him now. As a fan of Dune who's read most of the books including the pre-post-quels, I dislike that Kynes is a woman. I don't have any issue with Wiman actors. That would be absurd. But I don't like changes to the book being made. This is now the 4th attempt to make a big production Dune film. The fans want something more true to the book with each new version, not politically driven changes to the author's vision.
It also appears that Gurney Halleck now sports a set of bagpipes instead of a baliset.
That is unforgivable.
Just wait until you hear what a bagpipe sounds like....
Wait until you see it translating sounds into attacks...
But is it the Infinity Bagpipes?
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 20, 2020, 09:19:25 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 20, 2020, 07:50:36 PM
When LOTR films came out, one of my friends, a long time LOTR fan was very upset with the deviations that were made for the films. I didn't understand him then, but I understand him now. As a fan of Dune who's read most of the books including the pre-post-quels, I dislike that Kynes is a woman. I don't have any issue with Wiman actors. That would be absurd. But I don't like changes to the book being made. This is now the 4th attempt to make a big production Dune film. The fans want something more true to the book with each new version, not politically driven changes to the author's vision.
It also appears that Gurney Halleck now sports a set of bagpipes instead of a baliset.
That is unforgivable.
You're joking right?
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1307736369494720519
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 20, 2020, 11:12:13 PM
But is it the Infinity Bagpipes?
It's the Muad'Dib bagpipes, my friend.
Spoiler
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8RBUkPzDSjU/XFvP9NPWFmI/AAAAAAABnCk/xLMmmpc29jsB-tyMdZC8eZUQiCvAOC_qwCLcBGAs/s1600/My-name-is-a-killing-word.jpg)
After watching the trailer a couple times I actually think the influence of Lynchs version may be not that minor (at least visually... and in certain areas).
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 21, 2020, 12:08:38 AM
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1307736369494720519
(https://i.ibb.co/1bJWNZF/gif-1.gif)
Going by the pictures of the Baron figure, he does indeed fly in this version, too. That or he stands around with a big stick up his butt, which wouldn't exactly be out of character. :laugh:
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1308826022842859520 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1308826022842859520)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EinUXiEXsAAImH2?format=jpg&name=900x900)
From the recent Carlos Huante interview (posted in both the Alien: Awakening and Raised by Wolves threads), Huante stated that the Guild Navigators will not be appearing.
But I want to see how they make their Heighliners travel without moving! >:(
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 24, 2020, 11:21:01 PM
From the recent Carlos Huante interview (posted in both the Alien: Awakening and Raised by Wolves threads), Huante stated that the Guild Navigators will not be appearing.
That's fine. I don't think a navigator shows up in person in the books until Messiah.
But...
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGqdE1NdMTg
They might get a walk on role in Part 2, who knows. And maybe that guy with a broken egg for a head.
You call it a "walk on role," I call it a "float by role."
Or, uh, swim by? Since in the book they have webbed hands? lol
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1309167783410794497
THAT WORM. :D
I never saw that one, but good god that worm is a dinosaur :laugh:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/4b/0f/d44b0fa1e143e9e33edb82577acb3bc6.jpg)
This is the worm that actually appears in that miniseries. One of these days I'm going to watch this. :D
Hopefully Children of Dune isn't far behind.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 25, 2020, 02:48:19 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/4b/0f/d44b0fa1e143e9e33edb82577acb3bc6.jpg
This is the worm that actually appears in that miniseries. One of these days I'm going to watch this. :D
It's quite good. Theatrical (in a stage sense)
You should see what the desert mouse looks like. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 24, 2020, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 24, 2020, 11:21:01 PM
From the recent Carlos Huante interview (posted in both the Alien: Awakening and Raised by Wolves threads), Huante stated that the Guild Navigators will not be appearing.
That's fine. I don't think a navigator shows up in person in the books until Messiah.
They show up near the end, but just as normal looking humans. The weird fish-like creatures living in melange tanks only show up in Messiah.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 25, 2020, 03:32:16 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 24, 2020, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 24, 2020, 11:21:01 PM
From the recent Carlos Huante interview (posted in both the Alien: Awakening and Raised by Wolves threads), Huante stated that the Guild Navigators will not be appearing.
That's fine. I don't think a navigator shows up in person in the books until Messiah.
They show up near the end, but just as normal looking humans. The weird fish-like creatures living in melange tanks only show up in Messiah.
I always just kind of assumed those guys were regular Guild representatives, not navigators. At least that's how I justify the retcon.
Yeah, the two fat guys in grey robes were introduced as "Guild Agents" but Paul later sussed them out as actual Navigators. Perhaps one can also get around the retcon by assuming they were still new to the job, that the excessive amounts of spice intake over the years hadn't yet begun to mutate them. I wonder how Villeneuve will handle them if he gets to make the second movie?
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1309618118935941126 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1309618118935941126)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiyykFKWkCgmgOI?format=png&name=900x900)
Probably not guys in pointy wizard hats like the miniseries, at least.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 26, 2020, 04:01:22 PM
if he gets to make the second movie?
The "If" is such a scary thought in this situation. I wish so badly he was given the green light to film back to back.
I want the second movie and a Dune Messiah movie. I desperately want to see proper cinematic versions of Edric and Scytale.
I think they might do the sequel integrated with Paul of Dune. It actually would make sense.
Spoiler
This way you could see how good turns to evil inevitably
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1313192956975894528
Good decision.
No Time to Die probably also be moved (again) from spring to fall 2021 - еven spring 2021 is too early to release.
https://twitter.com/TravClark2/status/1313309037979631616
It actually probably is the right decision. This film would tank if released now, and that's not due to its own merits but rather due to the second wave scare.
The only concern would be if Kim Jung Un decides he wants to see it, hacks into the Warner vault and starts selling copies. ;-P
There is a graphic novel Dune adaptation coming out and a 12-part comic adaptation of House Atreides. We should get to see Planet IX! Excitement will be building for Dune!
I also acquired recently the Marvel adaptation of the original Dune film. I didn't realize the art was by Bill Sienkiewicz! It's quite a beautiful edition and terrifically illustrated. It's better than the film IMO. Highly recommended. This is up there with the Alien adaptation by Walt Simonson and Archie Goodwin.
Chalamet is going to look older than MacLachlan by the time they start shooting the second part lul.
Denis Villeneuve I seals it one of my favorite directors. I would be hyped to see Dune remade but with him backing it, it's made me incredibly excited. Maybe too much so that I'll be disappointed.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1308117960360374272
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1317599094538457088
Another look at the Baron played by Stellan Skarsgård:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElMPKfuXEAE7TJQ?format=jpg&name=medium)
A few people have already found and bought the toys at Target. So you can now play with the action figures (weirding modules not included) a whole year before the film is released. :laugh:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElMLf6bW0AIKbJP?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCK2vFU8AAd0A8?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCK2ltUwAIMXLO?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCK2cIUUAIV1Iy?format=jpg&name=large)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 26, 2020, 05:34:38 PM
Another look at the Baron played by Stellan Skarsgård:
Where are his boils and his heart plug?!
Lynch will be very disappointed... :-\
This version of the Baron does come with a pogo stick up his arse though...
Put the stick in there, Pete, and turn it 'round real neat.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 26, 2020, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 26, 2020, 05:34:38 PM
Another look at the Baron played by Stellan Skarsgård:
Where are his boils and his heart plug?!
I wonder how immersive and realistic a toy like that would be :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/2cWCTCR/pimple-popping-toy.gif)
He's made up for the boils by apparently being part Nosferatu this time around.
(https://i.ibb.co/BBY2dfy/hqdefault.jpg)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 26, 2020, 07:41:02 PM
He's made up for the boils by apparently being part Nosferatu this time around.
(https://i.ibb.co/fq8NsxX/giphy.gif)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/60/9c/9e609c464891bda9c3d5d321405faa79.jpg)
"Paul, I am your grandfather..."
(https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Paul-Atreides-Screaming-Featured-540x305.jpg)
If it wasn't for COVID, DUNC would have opened in the cinemas today...
A new bts shot from Mens Health magazine:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnISC3GXEAArG88?format=jpg&name=large)
There will also be a DUNC RPG:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnM6IA4W4AMMzap?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnM6O11XUAAAmPK?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnM6otKXUAELi0e?format=png&name=900x900)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 26, 2020, 05:34:38 PM
Another look at the Baron played by Stellan Skarsgård:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElMPKfuXEAE7TJQ?format=jpg&name=medium)
A few people have already found and bought the toys at Target. So you can now play with the action figures (weirding modules not included) a whole year before the film is released. :laugh:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElMLf6bW0AIKbJP?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCK2vFU8AAd0A8?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCK2ltUwAIMXLO?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCK2cIUUAIV1Iy?format=jpg&name=large)
Is The Baron figure in scale with the other figures?
9/10
These must be limited edition, right? I can't see them occupying Walmart toy aisles right alongside all the non-selling Star Wars merchandise.
Big dogs fight!
Quote from: DeadlineI'm hearing that Legendary Entertainment either has or will send legal letters to Warner Bros as soon as today, challenging the decision to put the Denis Villenueve-directed Dune into the HBO Max deal, and maybe Godzilla vs Kong as well. On the latter, Legendary reportedly had Netflix ready to pull the film from Warner Bros for around $250 million, before WarnerMedia blocked it. Sources said Legendary had no advance notice before last week's announcement that both Dune and Godzilla vs. Kong were part of the HBO Max plan.
Legendary certainly seems to have the right to challenge WarnerMedia on its decision: Legendary and its partners provided 75% of the $165 million or so net budget of Dune, the adaptation of the Frank Herbert novel that was envisioned to be the first of multiple films exploiting the six-novel series.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1335939698032832513
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1336697620283199488 (https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1336697620283199488)
https://news.avclub.com/denis-villeneuve-is-pissed-about-dunes-release-on-hbo-m-1845857783/amp
Crikey, he's pissed!
QuoteI learned in the news that Warner Bros. has decided to release "Dune" on HBO Max at the same time as our theatrical release, using prominent images from our movie to promote their streaming service. With this decision AT&T has hijacked one of the most respectable and important studios in film history. There is absolutely no love for cinema, nor for the audience here. It is all about the survival of a telecom mammoth, one that is currently bearing an astronomical debt of more than $150 billion. Therefore, even though "Dune" is about cinema and audiences, AT&T is about its own survival on Wall Street. With HBO Max's launch a failure thus far, AT&T decided to sacrifice Warner Bros.' entire 2021 slate in a desperate attempt to grab the audience's attention.
Warner Bros.' sudden reversal from being a legacy home for filmmakers to the new era of complete disregard draws a clear line for me. Filmmaking is a collaboration, reliant on the mutual trust of team work and Warner Bros. has declared they are no longer on the same team.
Streaming services are a positive and powerful addition to the movie and TV ecosystems. But I want the audience to understand that streaming alone can't sustain the film industry as we knew it before COVID. Streaming can produce great content, but not movies of "Dune's" scope and scale. Warner Bros.' decision means "Dune" won't have the chance to perform financially in order to be viable and piracy will ultimately triumph. Warner Bros. might just have killed the "Dune" franchise. This one is for the fans. AT&T's John Stankey said that the streaming horse left the barn. In truth, the horse left the barn for the slaughterhouse.
Public safety comes first. Nobody argues with that. Which is why when it became apparent the winter would bring a second wave of the pandemic, I understood and supported the decision to delay "Dune's" opening by almost a year. The plan was that "Dune" would open in theaters in October 2021, when vaccinations will be advanced and, hopefully, the virus behind us. Science tells us that everything should be back to a new normal next fall.
"Dune" is by far the best movie I've ever made. My team and I devoted more than three years of our lives to make it a unique big screen experience. Our movie's image and sound were meticulously designed to be seen in theaters.
I'm speaking on my own behalf, though I stand in solidarity with the sixteen other filmmakers who now face the same fate. Please know I am with you and that together we are strong. The artists are the ones who create movies and series.
I strongly believe the future of cinema will be on the big screen, no matter what any Wall Street dilettante says. Since the dawn of time, humans have deeply needed communal storytelling experiences. Cinema on the big screen is more than a business, it is an art form that brings people together, celebrating humanity, enhancing our empathy for one another — it's one of the very last artistic, in-person collective experiences we share as human beings.
Once the pandemic is over, theaters will be filled again with film lovers.
That is my strong belief. Not because the movie industry needs it, but because we humans need cinema, as a collective experience.
So, just as I have both a fiduciary and creative responsibility to fulfill as the filmmaker, I call on AT&T to act swiftly with the same responsibility, respect and regard to protect this vital cultural medium. Economic impact to stakeholders is only one aspect of corporate social responsibility. Finding ways to enhance culture is another. The moviegoing experience is like no other. In those darkened theaters films capture our history, educate us, fuel our imagination and lift and inspire our collective spirit. It is our legacy.
Long live theatrical cinema!
— Denis Villeneuve
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/dune-denis-villeneuve-blasts-warner-bros-1234851270/
I agree with every word of that. If things are still in bad shape with the world next year, I would honestly rather wait 'til 2022 to see it than have this released the way AT&T/WB plan on releasing it.
The way they pulled this without informing any of the filmmakers is especially shitty.
QuoteWarner Bros.' decision means "Dune" won't have the chance to perform financially in order to be viable and piracy will ultimately triumph. Warner Bros. might just have killed the "Dune" franchise.
So basically, if they go ahead with releasing it on HBO Max it will mean no second movie.
[EDIT] Actually I should rather say, no second part of the Dune movie. Like making a LOTR's movie but only filming The Fellowship of the Ring and half of The Two Towers.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 11, 2020, 03:36:34 PM
QuoteWarner Bros.' decision means "Dune" won't have the chance to perform financially in order to be viable and piracy will ultimately triumph. Warner Bros. might just have killed the "Dune" franchise.
So basically, if they go ahead with releasing it on HBO Max it will mean no second movie.
[EDIT] Actually I should rather say, no second part of the Dune movie. Like making a LOTR's movie but only filming The Fellowship of the Ring and half of The Two Towers.
The second film could just end up leading into a series instead. I personally think it was misguided to not film the whole thing in one production.
(https://i.gifer.com/CXq.gif)
Well, he is not nolan. He is not even Ridley Scott. Denis never made a movie which made 400, 500 or 600 millions. Actually, Denis never made 1 huge success in terms of box office
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 11, 2020, 01:34:40 PM
QuoteI learned in the news that Warner Bros. has decided to release "Dune" on HBO Max at the same time as our theatrical release, using prominent images from our movie to promote their streaming service. With this decision AT&T has hijacked one of the most respectable and important studios in film history. There is absolutely no love for cinema, nor for the audience here. It is all about the survival of a telecom mammoth, one that is currently bearing an astronomical debt of more than $150 billion. Therefore, even though "Dune" is about cinema and audiences, AT&T is about its own survival on Wall Street. With HBO Max's launch a failure thus far, AT&T decided to sacrifice Warner Bros.' entire 2021 slate in a desperate attempt to grab the audience's attention.
Warner Bros.' sudden reversal from being a legacy home for filmmakers to the new era of complete disregard draws a clear line for me. Filmmaking is a collaboration, reliant on the mutual trust of team work and Warner Bros. has declared they are no longer on the same team.
Streaming services are a positive and powerful addition to the movie and TV ecosystems. But I want the audience to understand that streaming alone can't sustain the film industry as we knew it before COVID. Streaming can produce great content, but not movies of "Dune's" scope and scale. Warner Bros.' decision means "Dune" won't have the chance to perform financially in order to be viable and piracy will ultimately triumph. Warner Bros. might just have killed the "Dune" franchise. This one is for the fans. AT&T's John Stankey said that the streaming horse left the barn. In truth, the horse left the barn for the slaughterhouse.
Public safety comes first. Nobody argues with that. Which is why when it became apparent the winter would bring a second wave of the pandemic, I understood and supported the decision to delay "Dune's" opening by almost a year. The plan was that "Dune" would open in theaters in October 2021, when vaccinations will be advanced and, hopefully, the virus behind us. Science tells us that everything should be back to a new normal next fall.
"Dune" is by far the best movie I've ever made. My team and I devoted more than three years of our lives to make it a unique big screen experience. Our movie's image and sound were meticulously designed to be seen in theaters.
I'm speaking on my own behalf, though I stand in solidarity with the sixteen other filmmakers who now face the same fate. Please know I am with you and that together we are strong. The artists are the ones who create movies and series.
I strongly believe the future of cinema will be on the big screen, no matter what any Wall Street dilettante says. Since the dawn of time, humans have deeply needed communal storytelling experiences. Cinema on the big screen is more than a business, it is an art form that brings people together, celebrating humanity, enhancing our empathy for one another — it's one of the very last artistic, in-person collective experiences we share as human beings.
Once the pandemic is over, theaters will be filled again with film lovers.
That is my strong belief. Not because the movie industry needs it, but because we humans need cinema, as a collective experience.
So, just as I have both a fiduciary and creative responsibility to fulfill as the filmmaker, I call on AT&T to act swiftly with the same responsibility, respect and regard to protect this vital cultural medium. Economic impact to stakeholders is only one aspect of corporate social responsibility. Finding ways to enhance culture is another. The moviegoing experience is like no other. In those darkened theaters films capture our history, educate us, fuel our imagination and lift and inspire our collective spirit. It is our legacy.
Long live theatrical cinema!
— Denis Villeneuve
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/dune-denis-villeneuve-blasts-warner-bros-1234851270/
He should cry more. The future is now, old man.
You're completely missing his point.
New picture of Piter de Vries. From exotic eyebrows to no eyebrows. I expect this will not go down well with kwisatz:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpCdYzjXcAI_w6x?format=jpg&name=large)
Quote from: RidleyScott99 on Dec 11, 2020, 11:09:34 PM
Well, he is not nolan. He is not even Ridley Scott. Denis never made a movie which made 400, 500 or 600 millions. Actually, Denis never made 1 huge success in terms of box office
Tell that to David Lynch. Following your logic Michael Bay is better director than Ridley Scott. We should be glad that we have someone unique like Denis. Who cares about box office? Studios and producers but I don't give a monkey as it's not my money.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 12, 2020, 04:09:01 PM
You're completely missing his point.
Am I? The cinema experience will always be around, but it's no longer the default way to view new media, and likely never will be again.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 12, 2020, 04:09:01 PM
I expect this will not go down well with kwisatz:
The icing on the shit-cake.
He doesn't have any issues with streaming becoming an important distribution method per se. He's pissed because AT&T have cut their losses along with any chance of his film becoming a box office success. They've also scuttled any hope of the second part ever happening. He's also pissed because he wasn't consulted on this. And he is correct in saying that streaming alone can't fund films of this scope.
*shrugs*
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 12, 2020, 09:32:15 PM
They've also scuttled any hope of the second part ever happening.
So we'll never see the rainstorm over Arrakeen?!
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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 12, 2020, 09:32:15 PM
He doesn't have any issues with streaming becoming an important distribution method per se. He's pissed because AT&T have cut their losses along with any chance of his film becoming a box office success. They've also scuttled any hope of the second part ever happening. He's also pissed because he wasn't consulted on this. And he is correct in saying that streaming alone can't fund films of this scope.
Yeah, he's more upset about spending three years of his life in something that's effectively getting dumped in a reject pile without consultation.
Dune adaptation is cursed.
The frogurt is also cursed.
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 13, 2020, 05:14:35 AM
Dune adaptation is cursed.
BS. WB, AT&T are just not good or smart enough for such films.
Time for some soul selling: Jeff Bezos to the rescue.
Hopefully Villeneuve will prevail and fbis will see a cinema release. The Dune series is fixing in popularity with the new graphic novel and comics. The comics are getting reprints.
I could even live with an Amazon Prime exclusive as long as I get a (proper) second Villeneuve directed part. Altho it seems rather obvious that there won't be one with Villeneuve on board that doesn't get a cinema (only) release.
Fukk this world ulul --
Maybe they can lure back David Lynch to make the second half. Ja?
Just staple the second half of Lynch's movie to this one.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 20, 2020, 10:18:55 PM
Maybe they can lure back David Lynch to make the second half. Ja?
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Get Rian Johnson.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 20, 2020, 11:35:27 PM
Get Rian Johnson.
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olol sure sure --
What's Peter Berg doing while we're at..
Oh noes - busy with a Rihanna Doc.
Since I only recently watched Troy and Neverending Story: I think I wouldn't mind Petersen.
Dunno if he's even in the business anymore.
Or maybe... even... the Sir himself ;D omg think about it lol
Think he might even be willing to scrap his 357 other projects should this late mega opportunity actually arise.
I'd prefer Petersen over Scott though tbh. Or give it to Eggers. Pretty sure he'd deliver.
I like DV, but I think there are more important things to worry about than this.
More important than Dune???
Someone should remind Scott of the Mentat concept and it's implications. He'll be faster on board than David can disembowel Shaw's corpse.
COVID is not a Virus. It's an Anti-Guild Navigator: Constantly unfolding Space between me and a DV Dune movie.
The Kwisatz Haderach is able to see both: the feminine and the masculine. COVID is neither.
Unending Space.
The Big Death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxsC-7bsFU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxsC-7bsFU)
Quote from: kwisatz on Dec 23, 2020, 02:41:52 AMCOVID is not a Virus. It's an Anti-Guild Navigator: Constantly unfolding Space between me and a DV Dune movie.
My plan is working. You will never be spoiled on my watch.
I really hope this Dune rollout doesn't get screwed up. I so want to see every Dune book turned into film. Things were going so good for the series finally.
We actually have a monthly Dune comic and it's awesome!
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 23, 2020, 02:54:16 AM
Quote from: kwisatz on Dec 23, 2020, 02:41:52 AMCOVID is not a Virus. It's an Anti-Guild Navigator: Constantly unfolding Space between me and a DV Dune movie.
My plan is working. You will never be spoiled on my watch.
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QuoteI so want to see every Dune book turned into film.
I highly doubt this has ever been more than a (good) fever dream among hardcore fans.
Dreaming is allowed though. Thus I conquered the Universe.
God Emperor would only work as a film with some major adjustments, something fans would likely cry foul at.
Quote from: Ingwar on Dec 20, 2020, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 20, 2020, 11:35:27 PM
Get Rian Johnson.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/3ohuPel436qciQZ8fC/giphy.gif
https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o7abG75mxZADGDz5S/giphy.gif
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There's hope
https://amp.cinemablend.com/news/2560545/big-things-for-dune-and-godzilla-vs-kong-may-be-on-the-way-as-legendary-and-warner-bros-allegedly-hash-out-deal
Dune would be great to see in a theater so I wouldn't mind a delay for that.
But...
I NEED to see Godzilla vs Kong this year.. release it on HBO Max.
I thoroughly believe we need to wait for Dune in theatres. Keep building the intrigue. It will be the most advertised and anticipated movie in a long time.
I wonder what their original plan was for the second part. Shooting in 2021?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 23, 2020, 07:04:25 AM
God Emperor would only work as a film with some major adjustments, something fans would likely cry foul at.
Been so long but isn't he driving around in some sort of chariot throne, fighting entire armies and deflecting laser beams with his body? :laugh:
Gonna be a tough one for practical effects.
Quote from: kwisatz on Dec 23, 2020, 04:40:49 PM
I wonder what their original plan was for the second part. Shooting in 2021?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 23, 2020, 07:04:25 AM
God Emperor would only work as a film with some major adjustments, something fans would likely cry foul at.
Been so long but isn't he driving around in some sort of chariot throne, fighting entire armies and deflecting laser beams with his body? :laugh:
Gonna be a tough one for practical effects.
The book is mainly the God Emperor pontificating about his philosophy, while the other two lead characters whine a lot.
I'd be happy if they delayed Dune by another year if it was the only way to see it in IMAX.
I'd wait another 5 years if that's what it takes to get a proper second part.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 23, 2020, 06:08:02 PM
The book is mainly the God Emperor pontificating about his philosophy, while the other two lead characters whine a lot.
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I can't imagine watching this in other format than the cinema for my first viewing... this story is meant to be presented on the big screen.
Big screen for the win!
im in awe. im going to eat god.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 24, 2020, 04:50:23 AM
im in awe. im going to eat god.
Tell us how he tastes like, ok ?
Dune in theatres only!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0jCboxHFkq9jOdmF7V_gFAPZA_pB6lFKDavq_v6ZyYVMEZTUXJ8moPfzk&v=lFZ3TGf9cOc&feature=youtu.be
Maybe!
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Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Dec 24, 2020, 12:47:35 PM
Dune in theatres only!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0jCboxHFkq9jOdmF7V_gFAPZA_pB6lFKDavq_v6ZyYVMEZTUXJ8moPfzk&v=lFZ3TGf9cOc&feature=youtu.be
Maybe!
Nice!
I love going to the theatre but I'm not going to do it again until it's safe - I like seeing movies on the big screen, but not enough to endanger my health or the safety of my family. :P
Quote from: THRFilmmaker Denis Villeneuve has written passionately about his desire for an exclusive theatrical release and Legendary is backing him in that demand, according to a knowledgeable source. That film is set for an October release, meaning that theaters may once again be operating as millions are vaccinated.
According to a source, conversations regarding various theatrical windowing approaches are ongoing and it remains unclear which option will be acceptable to Villeneuve. Another potential issue: It appears Warners may have been using Dune images to promote its streaming service without approval.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1347650337604317184
I just saw the trailer. I started getting interested at the point the version of Pink Floyd's 'Eclipse' started.
An old trick: use something familiar (and, they hope, much loved by the target audience) alongside the new concept, thing or movie.
Then the audience will, they hope, transfer their love of the musical hook into enthusiasm for the movie.
Well, it kept me watching to the end, but no matter how epic the visuals got, I wasn't enthused much.
Oh and did I hear the word 'Crusade' early on in the trailer? Oh the irony.
I feel like I've already seen this and it was meh.
Or like Local told me it was meh and I didn't go...
lul --
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 04, 2021, 03:06:58 PM
I feel like I've already seen this and it was meh.
Of course you've already seen it, you're the Kwisatz Haderach after all.
Pity it's going to be meh though.... :-\
Hey, there's always ice cream.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 04, 2021, 04:36:51 PM
Pity it's going to be meh though.... :-\
Like a kick between Fenris' legs.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 04, 2021, 05:29:21 PM
Hey, there's always ice cream.
What ice cream do you like ?
https://mobile.twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1359167894941290503 (https://mobile.twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1359167894941290503)
Dunno how legit
Quote from: DeadlineIt hasn't been decided yet if Legendary's other Warner Bros. title Dune will go day and date theatrical and on HBO Max. This is despite the fact that the latter streaming service keeps promoting it as part of their 2021 suite. The success of Godzilla vs. Kong this past weekend makes a clear argument in Legendary's negotiations with Warner to keep that all-star sci-fi movie strictly in theaters.
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'Godzilla Vs. Kong' Propels Domestic Box Office Out Of Pandemic Depression With $48.5M 5-Day Opening
Eric Roth talking with
Collider on a treatment for the second half of
Dune written by him:
Quote from: via ColliderI [wrote] a treatment to show the estate what we could do with the second half, but I've got to tell you that I think I've done as much as I can do. I also have other things I want to do. I'm 76 years old, and these things obviously take a long time to do. And so I have a few others I'm excited about. And hopefully people love Dune so much that they do want to have a second part, and I'm sure Denis would do amazing version of that."
https://twitter.com/Collider/status/1381648972754878465
Sorry if already posted, but here it is again anyway -
John Schoenherr's Dune (https://neotextcorp.com/culture/john-schoenherrs-dune/)
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Yep, Schoenherr's great. Probably the best Dune-wise.
Didn't he also kinda invent Wookies?
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What would Giger say? ;D
Quote from: kwisatz on May 02, 2021, 01:34:06 AM
Yep, Schoenherr's great. Probably the best Dune-wise.
Didn't he also kinda invent Wookies?
https://s8.directupload.net/images/210502/brtfqjvf.jpg
Ralph McQuarrie ripped off Schoenherr? Well, at least he had the good sense to remove the six titties.
TC
To be fair remove the clothing add the bandolier and the right figure probably looks closer to Chewie.
I like the titties.
Quote from: TC on May 02, 2021, 05:16:16 PM
Ralph McQuarrie ripped off Schoenherr? Well, at least he had the good sense to remove the six titties.
https://www.slashfilm.com/george-rr-martin-chewbacca/
I love these behind scene details of the creative process, of any Sci-Fi /Fantasy world 8)
Quote from: kwisatz on May 02, 2021, 06:14:35 PM
The original article is a bit more complex and comes to a somewhat different conclusion.
https://kitbashed.com/blog/chewbacca (https://kitbashed.com/blog/chewbacca)
Wow this is gold! Thanks :o
"There is no direct connection made on film between the off-hand wookie remark and, as they are more commonly known, shell dwellers. But following the assumption that they are the same, it's still hazy where the concept came from. Laden with overt social and political commentary, the hairy dwarf-like creatures may have sprung into life as a reflection of fringe existences, sacrifices of the consumer society and so on. Maybe at the hand of Lucas, maybe Murch, the two having written it together. But aside from the nickname and some unkempt hair, there is little else binding them to the latter-day wookiees of Star Wars, though both seem to have sprung from monkeys in some way."~
"Chewbacca, the character, also started his life in the rough draft (May 1974) as a kind of barbarian alien prince on the jungle planet of Yavin:
[...] five Wookees, (huge grey and furry beasts) [...] The eight foot Chewbacca, who resembles a huge, grey bushbaby with fierce baboon-like fang [...]"
Was about to reformulate that a bit but Jonesy's just too darn fast. ;D
Think the article implies a different conclusion more than outright come to it/pointedly state it.
edith: Im solely referring to the design aspect btw.
edith2: After rereading a certain passage I now think it outright states they copied Schoenherr. :D
Quote from: kwisatz on May 02, 2021, 06:29:00 PM
Was about to reformulate that a bit but Jonesy's just too darn fast. ;D
Think the article implies a different conclusion more than outright come to it/pointedly state it.
edith: Im solely referring to the design aspect btw.
edith2: After rereading a certain passage I now think it outright states they copied Schoenherr. :D
Yeah, but overall the author seems to conclude how complex the creative process is of...everything: from a fictional character like Chewbacca to a 21st century gadget like an iPhone :laugh: while he himself feels identified since he has worked in the video game industry. A conclusion reached when researching the less mainstream and more obscure details of creative process behind the ionic character:
"Chewbacca didn't spring to life out of nowhere, fully formed when Lucas saw his dog in the passenger seat of his car. That's the soundbite. A single step. The reality is complex and human. From vague names floating around, the kernel of an idea, changing purposes and roles of characters, major restructuring, the design hopping from person to person, scrapping the existing concept and going down a different path, seeing existing things in a different light and having to conform a range of ideas to complement and enrich one another."
Ja, he writes pretty balanced. Guess it's what "tricked" me into the "reformulation" bit.
Somewhere around the middle part I think he makes it more or less clear that he ultimately thinks that at one point they decided to use more Schoenherr and less "original" McQuarrie for final Chewie though.
https://twitter.com/Atrydka/status/1391849445269123077
QuoteBecoming Baron Harkonnen: Stellan Skarsgard Teases the Terrifying Dune Villain
I did eight or ten days on the movie, so my character doesn't show up for too much, but his presence will be felt. He's such a frightening presence where even if he doesn't say anything, I think you'll be afraid of him. And I'm extremely fat. I had eight hours in the makeup chair every day. And in some scenes, I look very tall because I levitate. You're going to have a lot of fun with it
https://movieweb.com/dune-2021-villain-baron-harkonnen-stellan-skarsgard/
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1392857680075575300
Dune will be exclusively in theaters for 45 days before streaming on HBO Max
https://twitter.com/Collider/status/1394442597142351872
Excellent.
Gonna need every extra dollar for Letoworm.
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1394447586342342659
She no fan of Letoworm.
Legendary says theatre debut only, Warner says HBO Max and theatre. I see a lawsuit incoming...
...and another postponement of release? :(
Wouldn't be surprised.
Guess point is getting closer too, where DV ultimately decides to start investing his time in another project..
Especially with Warner fu**ing around like that.
But what about the Letoworm?
Not sure DV is aware of the Letoworm.
And would ever be on board for that. ;D
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 18, 2021, 04:42:31 PM
But what about the Letoworm?
He's just gonna hurt ya really, really bad.
While browsing through Geoffroy Thoorens's stuff (which I mostly find pretty mediocre tbh) I coincidentally found out that this fantastic concept artist called Nivanh Chanthara is not only doing fantastic stuff but has also worked on Dunc:
(https://www.this-is-cool.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/nivanh-chanthara/nivanh-chanthara-duster132-digital-artist.jpg)
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(https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Dune-screencap-33.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWBxoGNXgAIPL47.jpg)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RnBFWprte9o/Xy6KObg7JtI/AAAAAAAAbJA/LdJw30qVu4kucaoEO6-_8uJhUMivdkIRACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Dune%2B7.jpg)
Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 01, 2021, 04:39:34 PM
I tend to agree. Funny thing is teeth-wise I actually can't think of another concept piece that comes that close to the worm design presented in the new film.
You like that one btw?
Ugh, we should really continue this in the Dune thread.
Continuing in the
Dune thread. :D
I actually love what the new worm design. The Lynch film's worms are 1:1 with what I imagine the book's worms to be like, so those are pretty damn perfect as far as adapting the material goes, but the new ones have a very distinct, ancient feel to them that I'm also really into so far. The glimpse of the harvester being swallowed looked grand, and the 'big' appearance of the worm in the trailer evoked the sense of staring into a massive, all-knowing eye. I can't wait to see them in all of their glory.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 01, 2021, 04:43:28 PM
The Lynch film's worms are 1:1 with what I imagine the book's worms to be like, so those are pretty damn perfect as far as adapting the material goes
Agreed. Think they're pretty close to Schoenherr's design which is more or less the perfect design for me too.
Aaaand I just realised that the teeth in the new film are basically not that far off from Schoenherr's teeth approach either, they are just way way longer.
(https://preview.redd.it/kcq8kncxm1g51.jpg?auto=webp&s=7a5b1bcfbfbf9862726cdde5ba6ba42f2725a18d)
In the end it'll all depend on execution anyway. I really could live with them showing not too much worm stuff but making this few scenes stand out with top notch CGI. I'm pretty sure that's DV's take on the whole thing anyway. Now we just need that dang movie lol.
Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 01, 2021, 05:01:44 PM
Now we just need that dang movie lol.
And therein lies the real dilemma we've been in for the last, uhhh, how many years has it been now? :D
Oh look, a new
Dune film directed by the most hyped director of our time, monster cast, provided with a reasonable budget, cut in two parts like everyone kept saying would be the way to go, fimed in a time where special effects are borderline photo realistic, Pink f**king Floyd in the trailer --
What. could. go. wrong.
Spoiler
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Sometimes whatever could go wrong could feel oh so right, though. ;)
As long as he again watches it at the cinema. ;)
"The dollar must flow."
- Letoworm
Spoiler
I kinda doubt Jodorowsky has HBO Max ;D
Arrow Video Bringing David Lynch's 'Dune' to Deluxe Edition 4K Ultra HD This Summer! (https://bloody-disgusting.com/home-video/3667331/arrow-video-bringing-david-lynchs-dune-deluxe-edition-4k-ultra-hd-summer/)
Standard -
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SteelBook -
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Superb news. Finally can use my BOSE 5.1 for killing people
https://twitter.com/AaronCouch/status/1408481582525018112
Probably my two most anticipated movies of the year.
I do like October.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 25, 2021, 05:56:38 PM
https://twitter.com/AaronCouch/status/1408481582525018112
Probably my two most anticipated movies of the year.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me! >:(
Spoiler
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Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 26, 2021, 12:29:39 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 25, 2021, 05:56:38 PM
https://twitter.com/AaronCouch/status/1408481582525018112
Probably my two most anticipated movies of the year.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me! >:(
Spoiler
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/210626/vghidmn6.jpg)
"Ayyy, Tone. Ya hear about this 'Doon?' Big worms, man. Eat ya whole like you're a piece of gabagool or somethin'."
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1408773884564885508
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 26, 2021, 01:10:28 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 26, 2021, 12:29:39 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 25, 2021, 05:56:38 PM
https://twitter.com/AaronCouch/status/1408481582525018112
Probably my two most anticipated movies of the year.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me! >:(
Spoiler
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/210626/vghidmn6.jpg)
"Ayyy, Tone. Ya hear about this 'Doon?' Big worms, man. Eat ya whole like you're a piece of gabagool or somethin'."
Woooow :D
Can't really decide whether to read that in Paulie's or Pussy's voice. ;D
Or Chris' even? He would actually have heard about it I suppose.
Wonder if Gandolfini would've made for a good Baron? RIP superb actor. --
https://twitter.com/ArrowFilmsVideo/status/1409537601346936844
A special preview is coming to select IMAX theaters later this month:
https://imaxexclusive.dunemovie.com/
I've watched Lynch's Dune, The Series, and Children of Dune.
Honestly, Dune's point eludes me (I understand Paul is Mau'Dib, on the nose, close to Mahdi). I get Alien, Star Wars, Star Trek, Predator, and more.
I haven't seen the miniseries, but as someone that knows the first book inside and out, Lynch's film is a bit of an odd duck. On one hand, I don't think the movie makes much sense without being familiar with the source material. On the other hand, knowing the source material makes it pretty apparent just how much the film doesn't get/care about the intent of the source material.
All that being said, the film is a damn pleasure to look at.
Based on Lynch's ending it's probably a good thing that we never got his take on Dune Messiah. :laugh: That being said I'm sure his take on the God-Emperor would be stunning.
I must admit one of my favorite lines is "The Sleeper has awoken." I also love "Fear is the mind killer, let it pass through me."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwEn2fqVdjQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwEn2fqVdjQ)
T r y i n g to not watch all of this. ::)
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 19, 2021, 12:20:47 PM
T r y i n g to not watch all of this. ::)
As much as I love trailers, I try to only watch the initial 'teasers' of anything I'm interested in these days. But in this case, I kinda don't even want to watch the movie until it's confirmed the second part of the storyline is going ahead! :laugh:
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 19, 2021, 12:20:47 PM
T r y i n g to not watch all of this. ::)
Try harder. >:(
Quote from: BringbackJonesy! on Jul 19, 2021, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 19, 2021, 12:20:47 PM
T r y i n g to not watch all of this. ::)
But in this case, I kinda don't even want to watch the movie until it's confirmed the second part of the storyline is going ahead! :laugh:
Now that's ambition! ;D
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 19, 2021, 04:41:31 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 19, 2021, 12:20:47 PM
T r y i n g to not watch all of this. ::)
Try harder. >:(
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 19, 2021, 04:41:31 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 19, 2021, 12:20:47 PM
T r y i n g to not watch all of this. ::)
Try harder. >:(
(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/219849617_340445480903948_6031221069617244114_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=904CyhQEd0YAX_twj4S&tn=hjHmWW9HJOPHPAZc&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=2f5c69d32554f261c8c7785b20093c69&oe=60FBE503)
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1417922423500857349
Debating if I'm going to watch the trailer... Might just hold off, since the release is only a few months out now.
Gonna start up the book again in the meantime though. :D
@ Nightmare Asylum - I remember how I didn't watch any of the trailers for RISE OF SKYWALKER, when I still had hope that it might wrap things up in a way I liked, and wanted to keep the footage fresh for myself. But I wanted a 'taste' of what the trailers offered, so ended up just LISTENING to them. The movie was still a mess, but at least I got an idea of how the trailers sounded at the time, which was enough to keep me interested.
The only movie I've ever really done a (nearly) full media blackout for was Blade Runner 2049. I saw the initial teaser that released a year or so before the film, but none of the actual "main" trailers.
I've already kind of religiously watched the first trailer for this, and poured over all of the stills, so there's no way I'll be able to close myself off the way I did for 2049 at this point. But I do feel like I've seen enough, I know I'm going to be there opening night. A reread of the book will get me from now 'til then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LCD7nyD0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LCD7nyD0s)
I have 100% committed to my decision to not watch the new trailer. In the meantime, I think it is time for me to begin reading the book for the third time. :D
Also:
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1418239673256796167
MY BODY IS READY!
Quote from: Ingwar on Jul 22, 2021, 08:04:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LCD7nyD0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LCD7nyD0s)
I think I prefer this one over the first trailer. So it looks like both theatrical and streaming then huh? Guess we can say goodbye to part two then?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 22, 2021, 08:24:32 PM
I have 100% committed to my decision to not watch the new trailer. In the meantime, I think it is time for me to begin reading the book for the third time. :D
Just watch the bloody thing mang. You've already read the book multiple times and seen the Lynch film, there's nothing left to spoil. It's not like you're virginal like kwisatz who knows nothing at all about the story, :P
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 22, 2021, 08:24:32 PM
I have 100% committed to my decision to not watch the new trailer. In the meantime, I think it is time for me to begin reading the book for the third time. :D
Do whatever you want, just don't spoil it for kwisatz! >:(
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 23, 2021, 03:55:03 PM
It's not like you're virginal like kwisatz who knows nothing at all about the story, :P
Kwisatz has seen all the possibilities anyways.
In preparation for this I decided to reread the dust jacket.
And drink some Water of Life.
I really an disappointed this was made into a two parter. I'd have preferred this film to be like Lynch's in length. I think doing two parters or etc is unwise in Covid times.
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 23, 2021, 09:30:57 PM
And drink some Water of Life.
Nice Zelda reference.
https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Water_of_Life
Was it in
A Link to the Past tho? The only Zelda Game I ever played..
New pic of Feyd btw:
Spoiler
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/210724/xjk8ug5n.png)
Quote from: Ingwar on Jul 22, 2021, 08:04:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LCD7nyD0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LCD7nyD0s)
This is looking amazing!
He saw the future :'(
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 23, 2021, 10:53:06 PM
I really an disappointed this was made into a two parter. I'd have preferred this film to be like Lynch's in length. I think doing two parters or etc is unwise in Covid times.
Problem with the book is that it is too long and complex for just one film. Like trying to make one movie out of the LotR book/s. Also, this was made before the great plague arrived and thus not foreseen. Ridley Scott also wanted to make two films out of it, back when he was working on a Dune adaption post Alien.
But if they are going to debut the film on streaming as well as theater then I doubt it's going to be a financial success, so a part two 2 will be unlikely.
Fu*k I just saw a thumbnail on Youtube with blue-eyed Paul in what looked like
Spoiler
a golden armour
Fu*king internet. Don't tell what it actually is or I sic Local on you.
You better stay out of this thread or you're gonna loose your maidenhead in here.
Hmm. I guess I will end up seeing the Dune trailer after all. I'm seeing The Green Knight tonight, which may run the trailer, and The Suicide Squad (another WB film) next week that almost certainly will.
At least I saved myself for a nice big screen viewing of it as my first experience? :D
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 29, 2021, 11:17:23 AM
I guess I will end up seeing the Dune trailer after all.
YUEH (yu'e), Wellington (weling-tun), Stdrd 10,082-10,191; medical doctor of the
Suk School (grd Stdrd 10,112); md: Wanna Marcus, B.G. (Stdrd 10,092-10,186?);
chiefly noted as betrayer of Duke Leto Atreides.
Spoiler
have fun ;)
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 29, 2021, 12:59:57 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 29, 2021, 11:17:23 AM
I guess I will end up seeing the Dune trailer after all.
YUEH (yu'e), Wellington (weling-tun), Stdrd 10,082-10,191; medical doctor of the
Suk School (grd Stdrd 10,112); md: Wanna Marcus, B.G. (Stdrd 10,092-10,186?);
chiefly noted as betrayer of Duke Leto Atreides.
Spoiler
have fun ;)
You shouldn't know that.
Wasn't that in the end credits of the Lynch movie? ::)
Spoiler
Only part of the movie that I watched, of course..
By the sounds of this, a LOT of footage may end up on the cutting floor for this initial 'Theatrical' release - https://www.darkhorizons.com/momoa-wants-a-4-6-hour-dune-cut/
Quote from: BringbackJonesy! on Aug 05, 2021, 01:54:27 AM
momoa-wants-a-4-6-hour-dune-cut
Right after the 4-6-hour Lynch Cut.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8OLvHBWEAIoYfi?format=jpg&name=medium)
This got a good laugh out of me. :laugh:
:laugh:
All Hail Sucker Fish
Still sticking it out trailerwise. But (real trailer spoiler)
Spoiler
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/210808/nxuvyrss.jpg)
is way enough to have me rehyped up to the hilt anyway.
It's giving me all kind of vibes:
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/210808/dvugbijl.jpg)
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/210808/3qk25kts.jpg)
Paul's vacant/sad yet gracious expression in this:
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/210808/orpvmz94.jpg)
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/210808/47wyypiz.jpg)
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/210808/77pxmzyo.png)
Is for me the single best shot in a long, very long time (I know I know hype..)
I'm monitoring this thread. You've all been warned. >:(
IGN Dropped a Bunch of New Clips (https://www.ign.com/articles/dune-characters-explained-house-atreides-timothee-chalamet-oscar-isaac-jason-momoa?utm_source=twitter)
Quote from: Denis Villeneuve via IndieWire"When I did the casting for Chani's character, I met a lot of actresses," Villeneuve said. "Zendaya wanted to audition and today, after shooting the film and seeing what a wonderful actress she is, I'm sorry I auditioned her. It was just because I didn't know her. However that day, she impressed me and when she left the studio I knew that Chani was her, the young desert tiger. I am honored to present two such explosive talents on screen [Chalamet and Zendaya] and I can't wait to shoot the second part of 'Dune' to get them back together. Knowing that in the next chapter Zendaya will be the protagonist of the story."
https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1427297850925461506
I don't recall that in the book, but it's been a while.
Now he wants 3 of them....but I'll settle for the studio actually letting him finish the first movie's story -
https://www.darkhorizons.com/denis-villeneuve-teases-a-dune-trilogy/
I almost want the Dune Messiah movie more than the first two. :laugh:
Give me the Trilogy or give me death.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 22, 2021, 08:04:19 PM
I almost want the Dune Messiah movie more than the first two. :laugh:
Dune: Messiah honestly feels like an extended epilogue to
Dune, more so than it does its own book, in a lot of ways. I can totally see it rounding out a "trilogy" of sorts from Denis, and then passing the rest of the installments on to other filmmakers if he chooses to depart there.
I've only read up to
Children of Dune, myself. Need to read the other three, eventually.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 22, 2021, 08:13:53 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 22, 2021, 08:04:19 PM
I almost want the Dune Messiah movie more than the first two. :laugh:
Dune: Messiah honestly feels like an extended epilogue to Dune, more so than it does its own book, in a lot of ways.
I've only read up to Children of Dune, myself. Need to read the other three, eventually.
I've read up to partway through Heretics. I think I was just burned out on Dune by that point and had to stop.
Quote from: Denis Villeneuve via EMPIRE"It's not easy to bring the dreams of your teenage years in front of a camera," Villeneuve admits from his editing room this July. "The teenager that I was was really a big dreamer. I had to try to please that guy. It's all the pressure of making sure that I don't disappoint the dream."
"I'm a big David Lynch fan, he's the master," says Villeneuve of that film. "When I saw [Lynch's] Dune I remember being excited, but his take... there are parts that I love and other elements that I am less comfortable with. So it's like, I remember being half-satisfied. That's why I was thinking to myself, 'There's still a movie that needs to be made about that book, just a different sensibility.'"
"Something I deeply love in the book is that there was a strong balance between the masculine power and feminine power."
Some new bits of footage here and there not seen in the trailers.
https://twitter.com/TheDuneSaga/status/1432688113575501824 (https://twitter.com/TheDuneSaga/status/1432688113575501824)
https://twitter.com/TheDuneSaga/status/1431937032801095686 (https://twitter.com/TheDuneSaga/status/1431937032801095686)
Film premiers in Venice on Friday so hopefully we'll see some reviews if there's no embargo.
So Dunc(e) just popped up in the programme of my local IMAX cinema(s) but only in the form of 3D presentations, like absolutely only (didn't they state to show less 3D like years ago?)
So my question now is: Can I just watch these in 2D by not wearing 3D glasses or would I miss something by doing so and rather should watch a 2D presentation at a normal cinema? Cus I rather hate le 3D..
Thanks in advance guyz
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 02, 2021, 05:06:05 PM
So Dunc(e) just popped up in the programme of my local IMAX cinema(s) but only in the form of 3D presentations, like absolutely only (didn't they state to show less 3D like years ago?)
So my question now is: Can I just watch these in 2D by not wearing 3D glasses or would I miss something by doing so and rather should watch a 2D presentation at a normal cinema? Cus I rather hate le 3D..
Thanks in advance guyz
I would wait until closer to the time. Its possible that they are advertising the 3d showings early, as they're gonna be the more expensive tickets, ergo more profit. My local cinema normal has big releases in IMAX 3D, and a 2d version as well.
Watching a 3d movie without glasses, will just mess up your eyes, and i would absolutely advise against in 99% of the time.
New clip from the film showing how the shields will be handled in this version:
Mr. Trouble, if you could kindly ensure that Herr kwisatz and Mr. Asylum don't watch this, thank you.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1433436368089325570 (https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1433436368089325570)
Quote from: Dachande on Sep 02, 2021, 05:13:14 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 02, 2021, 05:06:05 PM
So Dunc(e) just popped up in the programme of my local IMAX cinema(s) but only in the form of 3D presentations, like absolutely only (didn't they state to show less 3D like years ago?)
So my question now is: Can I just watch these in 2D by not wearing 3D glasses or would I miss something by doing so and rather should watch a 2D presentation at a normal cinema? Cus I rather hate le 3D..
Thanks in advance guyz
I would wait until closer to the time. Its possible that they are advertising the 3d showings early, as they're gonna be the more expensive tickets, ergo more profit. My local cinema normal has big releases in IMAX 3D, and a 2d version as well.
Watching a 3d movie without glasses, will just mess up your eyes, and i would absolutely advise against in 99% of the time.
Ah thanks, so I'll probably wait then.
I'm not sure there's much space for lots of non 3D showings though. This is what the site looks like:
https://www.uci-kinowelt.de/film/dune/365105/berlin-mercedes-platz/82#!#scroll-programm (https://www.uci-kinowelt.de/film/dune/365105/berlin-mercedes-platz/82#!#scroll-programm)
(I'm aware there are two showings on the 15th (but those aren't even IMAX?) but I really can't make those. But yeah maybe I have to wait another week or so or fold some time --)
Dune just premiered at the Venice Film Festival and while it looks like there is indeed a review embargo, there are some early reactions:
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1433823547885981704 (https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1433823547885981704)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-XIinZXsAcBJ2q?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-XIingWUAMwW_c?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-XIinbWQAAir65?format=jpg&name=medium)
More reactions:
https://twitter.com/KevinMcCarthyTV/status/1433833426084372488 (https://twitter.com/KevinMcCarthyTV/status/1433833426084372488)
https://twitter.com/jazzt/status/1433833443297665030 (https://twitter.com/jazzt/status/1433833443297665030)
https://twitter.com/ErikDavis/status/1433833732381741057 (https://twitter.com/ErikDavis/status/1433833732381741057)
https://twitter.com/OasisAwais/status/1433715113404608520 (https://twitter.com/OasisAwais/status/1433715113404608520)
https://twitter.com/AaronCouch/status/1433833608624558081 (https://twitter.com/AaronCouch/status/1433833608624558081)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-YBBFsVcAYjRxz?format=jpg&name=medium)
Seems like Denis nailed it. Again.
Yeah, but I'm also seeing a lot of negative reactions coming out now...
https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1433833919019900929 (https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1433833919019900929)
https://twitter.com/BrndnStrssng/status/1433843585275867139 (https://twitter.com/BrndnStrssng/status/1433843585275867139)
https://twitter.com/davidehrlich/status/1433833667282022402 (https://twitter.com/davidehrlich/status/1433833667282022402)
Oh shit.
Cleansing.
Majority of reviews are positive.
Saying "Dune needs a freak behind the camera" sounds like they only know the Lynch movie and the Jodorowsky documentary. The first book isn't that weird.
Yeah that was a strange criticism.... no one wants another Lynch version.
Even Lynch wouldn't participate in the extended cut. :laugh:
Wonder if Jodorowsky has a ticket for opening night. ;D
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 03, 2021, 07:53:50 PM
Saying "Dune needs a freak behind the camera" sounds like they only know the Lynch movie and the Jodorowsky documentary. The first book isn't that weird.
New movie needz more weirding modules and heartplugs... :D
This happens when a surrealist in addition to being a surrealist doesn't read the book. 😅
I'm only interested in Danika's review.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 03, 2021, 08:48:33 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 03, 2021, 07:53:50 PM
Saying "Dune needs a freak behind the camera" sounds like they only know the Lynch movie and the Jodorowsky documentary. The first book isn't that weird.
New movie needz more weirding modules and heartplugs... :D
This.
Also seeing a few reviews complaining about the ending being inconclusive. Uh, guys, it's Part 1 of 2.
I won't be satisfied until I see a rainstorm over Arrakeen.
That would be too rude for the environment.
These poor sandworms. :'(
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 03, 2021, 09:12:00 PM
Also seeing a few reviews complaining about the ending being inconclusive.
Same people who of course love the book's ending..
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 03, 2021, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 03, 2021, 09:12:00 PM
Also seeing a few reviews complaining about the ending being inconclusive.
Same people who of course love the book's ending..
The movie isn't adapting the entire book, just the first half. It's kind of like complaining that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 doesn't have a satisfying conclusion compared to the book. Uh, no shit.
As a none book reader I hope I will understand this seemingly very complex world.
Lots of new footage in this new Dun
c featurette:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ZDp9FEvLA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ZDp9FEvLA)
Also, our first look at the Spacing Guild:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-mx6YgX0AMODzY?format=jpg&name=large)
Daft Punk vibes...
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 25, 2020, 03:32:16 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 24, 2020, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 24, 2020, 11:21:01 PM
From the recent Carlos Huante interview (posted in both the Alien: Awakening and Raised by Wolves threads), Huante stated that the Guild Navigators will not be appearing.
That's fine. I don't think a navigator shows up in person in the books until Messiah.
They show up near the end, but just as normal looking humans. The weird fish-like creatures living in melange tanks only show up in Messiah.
Looks like we got ourselves a Navigator on the right.
Giedi Prime
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-msmMYWQAM6bat?format=jpg&name=large)
Subtle nod to Giger here (minus the phalluses and sculpture) :
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-mtFG-VcAkNUG2?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eeo4lGCXsAAN603?format=jpg&name=medium)
The only part of this I'm not looking forward to's Hans Zimmer.
Yeah, Hans and his Music Factory (tm) is too generic. Those Guild Agents made me realise that Daft Punk might have been an interesting fit. Those visuals will go great with some synth.
Zimmer soundtrack was released:
and it's good and creative. Still has some typical Zimmer stylings in places but.. definitely not a bad score.
Must. not. click.
Jóhann Jóhannsson would've been perfection soundtrackwise (RIP). Was rewatching Sicario a couple of days ago oH mY gOd.. If Dune's just in the same league of t h a t then all is fu*king fine --
At times this is more like 80's Vangelis and Jóhann than anything Zimmer's ever done. A lot of moody synths and choirs.
I hope you're right but stop fu*king tempting me mate. ;)
I know someone..
fite me irl
He will fight you with sound and plugs.
I'm watching you. >:(
(https://c.tenor.com/jD0XFVZWj6AAAAAC/han-solo.gif)
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 06, 2021, 09:21:36 PM
https://c.tenor.com/jD0XFVZWj6AAAAAC/han-solo.gif
Is that the Spice Melange causing the glow on his face?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 06, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 06, 2021, 09:21:36 PM
https://c.tenor.com/jD0XFVZWj6AAAAAC/han-solo.gif
Is that the Spice Melange causing the glow in his eyes?
For he is the Kwisatz Replicant.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 06, 2021, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 06, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 06, 2021, 09:21:36 PM
https://c.tenor.com/jD0XFVZWj6AAAAAC/han-solo.gif
Is that the Spice Melange causing the glow in his eyes?
For he is the Kwisatz Replicant.
J.F. Sebastian manufactures heartplugs for the Kwistaz Replicant.
Quote from: skhellter on Sep 06, 2021, 08:12:07 PM
At times this is more like 80's Vangelis and Jóhann than anything Zimmer's ever done. A lot of moody synths and choirs.
I don't f**king believe you, sounds too good to be true. Like a good Alien film.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 06, 2021, 09:46:48 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 06, 2021, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 06, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 06, 2021, 09:21:36 PM
https://c.tenor.com/jD0XFVZWj6AAAAAC/han-solo.gif
Is that the Spice Melange causing the glow in his eyes?
For he is the Kwisatz Replicant.
J.F. Sebastian manufactures heartplugs for the Kwistaz Replicant.
It's too bad he won't live. But then again, who does?
QuoteSubtle nod to Giger here
Subtle Giger references, subtle Lynch references (Baron rising from black liquid). I likes.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 06, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 06, 2021, 09:21:36 PM
https://c.tenor.com/jD0XFVZWj6AAAAAC/han-solo.gif
Is that the Spice Melange causing the glow on his face?
I'm still hoping Villeneuve will rope Harrison in for the role of Tuek (the spice smuggler) for Part 2.
https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1435498876518080520 (https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1435498876518080520)
Some BTS footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzqdY3FTJkw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzqdY3FTJkw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlnsxMiXOK8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlnsxMiXOK8)
Three hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbMBvesE3T4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbMBvesE3T4)
New still. I like Villeneuve's use of more texture in Dune. His previous works always seemed to lack texture.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_QlZaDWEAUrIYo?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
I deeply love Denis! ;D
https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1438533636844883974 (https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1438533636844883974)
Hard to disagree with him. His is The Man.
Very jealous of the parts of the world where this is already out.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 16, 2021, 09:40:12 PM
Very jealous of the parts of the world where this is already out.
Better not be in Germany. >:(
Doing big business in France, and rave reviews. I'm confident part 2 will get the green light come December.
Noticed it's PG-13. Usually I don't like PG-13 movies (not saying an R rating automatically means quality).
Never saw or read anything Dune. Could anyone tell me if the source material is PG-13 or R?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 17, 2021, 01:54:52 AM
Better not be in Germany. >:(
Standard and 3D.
Think the pedophilic stuff alone would turn any one-to-one adaptation of the book into R.
The film actually feels a bit tame (in parts) for Dune. It often compensates for that with absolut great atmosphere though.
Tonight for me. Can't wait ;D
Have fun! Don't miss the start. And I mean the start. ;D
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 17, 2021, 01:54:52 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 16, 2021, 09:40:12 PM
Very jealous of the parts of the world where this is already out.
Better not be in Germany. >:(
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_Qlo_VVkAE6tRw?format=jpg&name=medium)
Got to feel sorry for 'em Aussies though. Poor sods, I wonder what they did wrong? :D
Quote from: Ingwar on Sep 16, 2021, 09:02:04 PM
Hard to disagree with him. His is The Man.
https://twitter.com/CBMCringe/status/1438862021726982147
Lol it's so funny to see them all use "copy and paste" in their attacks. It's not something you can accuse him of regardless of how you feel about his films.
So childish 😆
God, I cannot wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgQdi7sg9f4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgQdi7sg9f4)
I think they only say something to he PR for their film. Just funny how they always hate on Marvel when one of their films is close to being released. It's sad they have to hate just to try and get butts in seats to see their movie.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 17, 2021, 05:29:48 PM
Got to feel sorry for 'em Aussies though. Poor sods, I wonder what they did wrong? :D
Have you ever drunk Foster's? ;D
No, it's been banned at the local pub. But I understand Local Trouble knows a thing or two about Fosters.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Sep 17, 2021, 06:26:23 PM
Lol it's so funny to see them all use "copy and paste" in their attacks. It's not something you can accuse him of regardless of how you feel about his films.
So childish 😆
Ironically, their "reviews" are also essentially "copy and paste's" of each other. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmBeR32GRA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmBeR32GRA)
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Sep 17, 2021, 08:15:37 PM
I think they only say something to he PR for their film. Just funny how they always hate on Marvel when one of their films is close to being released. It's sad they have to hate just to try and get butts in seats to see their movie.
I would hardly consider what he said "hate". He didn't say they were awful, just that he thinks they are formulaic. I happen to agree with him even though I enjoy a lot of Marvel films.
The context of the quote was that big budget movies can still have artistic merit and aren't doomed to be popcorn films.
www.nme.com/news/film/denis-villeneuve-marvel-movies-cut-and-paste-copies-3047720
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 17, 2021, 11:13:32 AM
The film actually feels a bit tame (in parts) for Dune. It often compensates for that with absolut great atmosphere though.
So you've
heard? :-\
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 18, 2021, 12:08:37 AM
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 17, 2021, 11:13:32 AM
The film actually feels a bit tame (in parts) for Dune. It often compensates for that with absolut great atmosphere though.
So you've heard? :-\
Yes. Sure. People talking on the tram, you know..
I also heard this film's a grower. From people who then must've seen it a second time. :o
The whole first part, until
Spoiler
Leto's death
, stuck me in my seat. We find the dazzling staging that Villeneuve strikes us in each of his films since Sicario. But this is like that every 3 minutes, we take full eyes, ears, we feel such a breath, such floating, such power. The atmosphere is heavy, the scope immense - in the continuity of Blade Runner 2049 - and the music, excellent although less memorable for Zimmer, reinforces this atmosphere a little more.
I really appreciated the way Villeneuve presents us and invites us into this universe, the presentation of the different cast, the issues of each other, is particularly fluid, efficient, natural. It's accessible, rhythmic, punchy, so much so that it made the work almost too simple for me.
The climax of the feature film
Spoiler
being the death of Leto
, it's true that the bellows in the last part falls a bit, with visions a little too much, embarrasing, and a much more intimate end in the desert, which would have made a very good introduction in part two. Anyway, this first part was of a rather crazy formal ambition and sufficiently rich and well constructed to make people want to see one, two, three or four suites.
4/5
Back from it, I do not see the distinction Villeneuve tried to draw between Marvel and his movie, to me both are the same:
A lot of rich people spending their time talking, a chosen one, 30 explosions per shots because VFX factories offers fixed bid and are paid per shot, not the amount of creatures or explosion they put in it which is why you always see a billions things going on per shot, everything is overly synthetic and there are no risk taken anywhere (the editing, story, acting, colors, cinematography, VFX are all but very conservative).
It looked much like a very old movie made with a mind from someone of the previous centuries, oh look the desert people are arabic, the traitor are asians, the bad guys dress in black, the messiah is young and innocent and goes to an exotic place...
Mute the sound, there's no tension, nothing surprising, everything (not story wise, cos I know Dune is old) visually has been shot a billion time the same way ESPECIALLY in the last couple of years (Wadi Rum in Prometheus, and Star Wars, both got a real love for Lawrence of Arabia, at least Prometheus tried to put make up on it by having bigger mountains in the background and transform the place into a very humid and cold environment).
The sand dune are the same in Star Wars VII, IDK what I was looking at, I'm pretty sure you can cross cut Dune shots with The Force Awakens very easily.
Brutalism is so over-rated these days, yet everything feels dysfunctional and doesn't mean much beside very rich people trying to look modest in their grandiose empty castle.
Music everywhere and when it's muted they really push the useless soundFX (I mean it's sand moving... no need to put thunder sound there or woooosh ::) )
This movie is in my opinion the pinacle of everything I find symptomatic with the industry, it's a disney in disguise or should I say a "long commercial sold as a TV series only for the large screen where the point isn't to make a great movie but to make sure enough people will come back for a sequel not everyone is sure they really want but that please the shareholder.
Would have been at least partially okay if the material was original but even that is so old and consumed and I'm pretty sure they didn't try to go too much off road cos it doesn't look like a Blade Runner attempt compared to do Android dream of electric sheep or close to anything Jodorowsky tried to inject.
kinda sounds like you would hate the book too though right?
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That doesn't make any sense ???
Quote from: Le Celticant on Sep 20, 2021, 09:35:16 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Sep 20, 2021, 09:01:42 PM
kinda sounds like you would hate the book too though right?
kinda sounds like you would love the opera too though right?
...okay
Well you apparently took issue with every aspect of the film (almost to a comical level imo). It sounds like you hate the story itself.
In Villeneuve I trust. ❤
Judging by the trailer i was not hyped. I thought the designs were kinda too steril along with the cinematography. Not a huge fan of the trend of finding the sharpest lens possible, putting them on digital cameras and then have it just look as sharp clean and sterile as possible.
So i was not on the hype train.
UNNTILL i saw the freaking movie in theaters.
I loved it and all my problems i had by watching that short trailer went away. I liked the look of it, it thought it was an incredible experience and the use of sound was amazing, not only the score but the general use of sound, voice and filtrations, this movie does an incredible job to transport me into another world, and og boi it has been a long time since i experienced that !
Cant wait for part 2. Anybody knows if they shot them back to back or if part 2 still havent been shot ?
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On Paul –
Spoiler
Him playing into the sort of stereotypical hero role is kind of pivotal at this stage in the story, in contrast to the horrors that his actions ultimately usher into the world.
Quote from: Ridlazz921 on Sep 21, 2021, 06:29:44 AM
Cant wait for part 2. Anybody knows if they shot them back to back or if part 2 still havent been shot ?
Part two has not yet filmed and its (potential) future existence depends entirely on the success of part one.
Denis will know by December, it's looking good though.
Quote from: Ridlazz921 on Sep 21, 2021, 06:29:44 AM
Judging by the trailer i was not hyped. I thought the designs were kinda too steril along with the cinematography. Not a huge fan of the trend of finding the sharpest lens possible, putting them on digital cameras and then have it just look as sharp clean and sterile as possible.
So i was not on the hype train.
UNNTILL i saw the freaking movie in theaters.
I loved it and all my problems i had by watching that short trailer went away. I liked the look of it, it thought it was an incredible experience and the use of sound was amazing, not only the score but the general use of sound, voice and filtrations, this movie does an incredible job to transport me into another world, and og boi it has been a long time since i experienced that !
Yeah, it was the same with me, initial sceptism after watching the first trailer but after looking at some of the later released footage I began to change my mind. Wasn't a fan of 2049's look at all but I think Dune is looking very good (aside from some bland production design here and there, IMO). But yeah, there are some really stunning shots in there.
QuoteCant wait for part 2. Anybody knows if they shot them back to back or if part 2 still havent been shot ?
Nope, part 2 has been scripted but not filmed yet. The most recent news on that is, is that the studio told Villeneuve that if it underperforms at the box office but is embraced on HBO Max, then he would most likely be given the go-ahead for part 2.
Quote from: Le Celticant on Sep 21, 2021, 07:56:42 AM
It's a pretty lazy and "safe" adaptation in my opinion (almost like there was no ambition at all to make this movie beyond getting paid to do it).
Villeneuve has said in numerous interviews that Dune is a "passion project" for him. Dune is his favourite book and it has been a lifelong dream to adapt it to film. He has already spent more than 3 years of his life working on it exclusively and loves it deeply.
QuotePlus you can't say "it's impossible to do in one movie" when a prior adaptation (like it or not) show you otherwise.
The problem with the prior adaption was that no-one who haven't read the book understood what was going on. It is too complex a book to adapt into only one film. Even Ridley Scott's version would have been split over two films.
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Trying to argue the motives of a person you don't know because you didn't like a movie is a weird hill to die on.
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You doubt his sincerity because you don't like the movie - and somehow tried to use the Strause Brothers as a supporting argument? Their movie was awful, but the fact they were fans isn't really in question. You can be passionate and incompetent.
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Nobody doubted you couldn't dislike the movie. Your first review said it was soulless and for a paycheck. That's the only thing mentioning his passion was in response to.
Dune has been Villeneuve's dream project. I'm going to err on the side of the vast majority that are raving about it, cheers. :D 8)
Quote from: Le Celticant on Sep 21, 2021, 08:25:03 PM
Have you ever heard of the story of darth Strauses brother the wise(not)?
It was once said, two brother loved so much a movie, they made it even better. (still can't get my head around this even today HAHA, I think that makes up an awesome joke in the community at least).
Said every director ever about their adaptation, period.
I'd be surprised if you find someone sayin "I did it for the money, f*ck I didn't even knew what was the source material"
On the 165M$ budget there's at least half on marketing, you can't imagine they let with that money filtrate Villeneuve saying "oh... it was there... that or star wars... ... or another Shrek... it just happened idk how but truth is I would have rather direct a Wall-E movie".
Denis Villeneuve is in a
slightly different league compared to the Straus Bros. His ten films total over 18 Academy Award nominations (including best director) and 3 wins. He is competent, don't worry. ;D
And it wasn't as if the project just fell into his lap, he actively pursued the rights in order to film it.
Quote from: Denis Villeneuve, Circa 2016"a longstanding dream of mine is to adapt Dune, but it's a long process to get the rights, and I don't think I will succeed."
He has also been quite frank in interviews, he admitted that he wanted to turn down 2049 because he was afraid of "tarnishing the "brand" and only really took the job due to pressure from the producers (with whom he had worked on his previous film). Besides that, he has said quite a few controversial things in interviews - not a man to mince his words.
https://twitter.com/CBR/status/1443221727467773959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRtgZT9F0eY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRtgZT9F0eY)
Watched it yesterday. Just another in a long long line of total let downs. Yes it looks great but nothing at all happens, main character just dull and uninteresting. 1 action scene that you see most of in the trailers. So many dream scenes with Chani and she only appears in last 20 minutes or so. Long, boring, uneventful.
5/10
Thank you for your review. I will advise kwisatz that he should get ice cream instead.
With some cinnamon spice sprinkled on top?
Sure, but I don't think he'd get the reference. He's only read the dust covers.
If kwisatz sprinkles spice on his icecream he'll probably end up seeing the movie in his head anyway. Win, win situation.
He who controls the Spice
Spoiler
can make Spice ice
Spice cream. Have some.
Just a sec.. gonna get my poison snooper
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Idk, just thought it's funny
Saw this last night and really enjoyed it. But it is what it is, half a story. So it kinda feels a little anti-climatic when it ends, which makes me worry reception wont be good enough to get that second part. Otherwise my only real disappointment was in the fight chorography. Just confusing and unimpactful most of the time.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2021, 07:47:27 AM
Saw this last night and really enjoyed it. But it is what it is, half a story. So it kinda feels a little anti-climatic when it ends, which makes me worry reception wont be good enough to get that second part. Otherwise my only real disappointment was in the fight chorography. Just confusing and unimpactful most of the time.
I agree, felt unfinished. I wonder if they could have combined the two halves into a 3h movie, cutting some extra stuff (and making a longer SE for Blu-Ray).
I have also read Dune: Messiah, it was depressing but could probably be well adapted (it's a bit smaller in scale).
Looks very pretty, and that's it's biggest failing. So much of the running time is devoted to the visuals, with bugger all invested in character, dialogue or plot. I'll be amazed if part two ever gets the green light.
QuoteAll eyes are on the domestic box office performance this weekend of Warner Bros. and Legendary's $165M Denis Villeneuve directed sci-fi production Dune. The director originally conceived a two-picture series with the most recent release being part one. What if the film falls greatly short of its $30M-$35M domestic projection? Is Dune dust?
"Will we have a sequel to Dune? If you watch the movie you see how it ends. I think you pretty much know the answer to that," WarnerMedia Studios and Networks Chair and CEO Ann Sarnoff told Deadline yesterday in a sit-down chat regarding the conglom's full support of Dune 2.
https://deadline.com/2021/10/dune-matrix-sopranos-sequels-hbo-max-theatrical-model-1234859504/
Glad to hear this.
Saw this tonight. To keep it simple, as someone that adores the book, I loved this.
I will absolutely have more to say in the coming days.
I found Paul's visions repetitive. Overall good movie but there are some boring moments that drag on. Gonna watch it again soon.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2021, 07:47:27 AM
Saw this last night and really enjoyed it. But it is what it is, half a story. So it kinda feels a little anti-climatic when it ends, which makes me worry reception wont be good enough to get that second part. Otherwise my only real disappointment was in the fight chorography. Just confusing and unimpactful most of the time.
Weren't you perturbed by the lack of weirding modules, heartplugs, boils and Patrick Stewart?
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 22, 2021, 04:09:34 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2021, 07:47:27 AM
Saw this last night and really enjoyed it. But it is what it is, half a story. So it kinda feels a little anti-climatic when it ends, which makes me worry reception wont be good enough to get that second part. Otherwise my only real disappointment was in the fight chorography. Just confusing and unimpactful most of the time.
Weren't you perturbed by the lack of weirding modules, heartplugs, boils and Patrick Stewart?
Don't forget the pugs, of course.
Just watched it thought it was good. The word was gorgeous and was pleasantly surprised that the plot was easy to follow. Only downside is, will it do well so we get Part2? I really hope so. Hope it don't end up like "Battle Angel Alita" were we are left waiting for a sequel because it bombed at the box office. Hopefully it will do well so we can part 2. The is alot of times were not much happen like mostly dialogue ect but the world of Dune makes up for any boring parts. I would of also, liked to of seen more stuff from the bad guys especially Stella Skarsgard character, he seemed a very interesting bad guy. Anyhow I'm sure we will get more in part 2 if it happens fingers crossed.
Pros
The world
The characters and houses
The music
The Director
Why I watched this at home since I currently have Covid I really wish I seen it on the big screen.
Cons
Only Part 1
Slow burn in some parts
The fighting, wish they upped the gore just a tiny bit. Like alot of the fighting scenes looked too toned down with the action and kills.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 22, 2021, 04:09:34 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2021, 07:47:27 AM
Saw this last night and really enjoyed it. But it is what it is, half a story. So it kinda feels a little anti-climatic when it ends, which makes me worry reception wont be good enough to get that second part. Otherwise my only real disappointment was in the fight chorography. Just confusing and unimpactful most of the time.
Weren't you perturbed by the lack of weirding modules, heartplugs, boils and Patrick Stewart?
I know I was. >:(
So you didn't get to spend your money on a tasty ice cream ?
I have HBOMax, so I was able to do both.
What flavour ?
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Overall Villeneuve and co. did an excellent job with this. I have one or two niggles with the adaptation, but they don't hurt the movie much.
I think Lynch's version had better sets and a better soundtrack. Zimmer's score didn't do much for me, TBH.
I also think Duncan was miscast. Jason Momoa seems so out of place in a film like this.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 23, 2021, 09:55:59 PM
I think Lynch's version had better sets and a better soundtrack. Zimmer's score didn't do much for me, TBH.
Agreed on the music...there were some pieces I thought fit but then the whole "Ahhhhhhhhhhh" girl singing threw me off completely. It felt like it came outta nowhere and was kinda cheesy for me personally.
The first half of that movie I completely loved. The visuals and set design were pretty good.
The second half was good but lost some of its pacing. And I think they could've done more with the overal fighting but all I'm all, pretty solid movie!
This review from The New Yorker echoes my thoughts:
QuoteIt's surprising how cheesy the new "Dune" looks. Directed by Denis Villeneuve, the adaptation of Frank Herbert's 1965 novel seems less like a C.G.I. spectacle than a production still waiting for its backgrounds to be digitally filled in or its sets to be built. David Lynch's version of "Dune," from 1984, was a profuse film, teeming with sets and costumes as intricate as they were overwhelming, making extended and startling use of optical effects, and, in general, displaying an urgent will to turn the fantasy worlds of the story, which is set in the year 10191, into physical and visceral experiences. Villeneuve's interests appear to lie elsewhere. He puts the drama and plot first, avoiding details that could be distractions and appearances that aren't explained (or explained away) in dialogue or action. The bareness with which he depicts the story doesn't resemble the shoestring production values of nineteen-fifties sci-fi cheapies, but it instead suggests merely a failure of imagination, an inability to go beyond the ironclad dictates of a script and share with viewers the wonders and terrors of impossible worlds.
I really liked the first half of this movie. The world building was fun and interesting, the sets were unique, even though you could barely see them half the time. Apparently, light bulbs aren't a thing in the future. :-\ I liked the characters and the story but then it just starts to drag and drag, too many scenes of the characters just wondering the desert, trying to get to the Fremen, something that would have taken a few minutes in most movies. But then I remembered this is only part one which means they stretched it out on purpose. By the end, the movie didn't conclude in any meaningful way, it just stopped and said "see you next time." And I'm pretty sure there won't be a next time. shame. I really like Denis Villeneuve; Arrival was my favorite film of 2016 and Blade Runner: 2049 was my favorite film of 2017, this one just let me down.
Pretty sure 2 and 3 are all but confirmed though.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 24, 2021, 02:38:55 PM
Pretty sure 2 and 3 are all but confirmed though.
I don't know, my theater only had 10 people in it at a 7pm screening , I guess HBO Max could save it.
And I had to resort to seeing it in a standard showing because the IMAX showing at the same time was completely sold out. Film seems to be doing pretty decent box office numbers this weekend too.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1452290101783023618
$200m globally? Damn, seems like it's doing well enough.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 23, 2021, 09:55:59 PM
I think Lynch's version had better sets and a better soundtrack. Zimmer's score didn't do much for me, TBH.
I also think Duncan was miscast. Jason Momoa seems so out of place in a film like this.
Were the helmets acceptable though?
I'm just happy to have a Dune movie where the costumes aren't shit and the villains aren't ridiculous cartoons. The weird spider thing on Giedi Prime in this was much more effectively unsettling than any of the random shit Lynch did with the Harkonnens.
https://youtu.be/G2G8ow-C6ow
Will probably listen to on the way to the cinema.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 24, 2021, 04:51:02 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 23, 2021, 09:55:59 PM
I think Lynch's version had better sets and a better soundtrack. Zimmer's score didn't do much for me, TBH.
I also think Duncan was miscast. Jason Momoa seems so out of place in a film like this.
Were the helmets acceptable though?
They were not. >:(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg1gJKZwpPk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg1gJKZwpPk)
So can anyone who knows their Dune stuff explain why in the future they fight like medieval warfare with swords and infantry charge? why no ray guns etc? is it to do with the slow / fast shields thing?
Quote from: dave1978 on Oct 25, 2021, 10:34:20 AM
So can anyone who knows their Dune stuff explain why in the future they fight like medieval warfare with swords and infantry charge? why no ray guns etc? is it to do with the slow / fast shields thing?
Yep. And if a laser does hit a shield, the reaction between the two causes a massive explosion.
It only just dawned on me, with you asking that question, that the film didn't explicitly state that. :D
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 23, 2021, 09:55:59 PM
I think Lynch's version had better sets and a better soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm5VP3of-dA&ab_channel=Mustang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AkZV6FxK3Y&ab_channel=Mustang
absolute eternal bangers
Love Toto's score.
I will say, though, that as someone that's not usually into Zimmer's work – I actually really liked this new score. I found it to be a major improvement over 2049's.
https://twitter.com/Legendary/status/1453058884516466691
Excellent news.
I'm thrilled with this. This guy is turning out to be my favorite director it seems! Loved what he did with Bladerunner 2049, love what he did with Dune as well. I haven't read the books, but you know he did a great job when he inspired me to read them and that doesn't happen often. Even though I liked the old Dune, I wasn't that captivated by it. You can feel how much love is put into this movie! The cast was great, almost perfect, the visuals were stunning. I really like the director's style, his visual eye, this guy can do Sci Fi in an epic way.
The score was interesting, as a musician myself, I'm not a fan of Zimmer generally cause his tracks can sound very generic to me, but this had great moments. Though the folk voice going all epic was overused a bit, still not bad. The movie has captivated my imagination and I'm so happy to see something like this! I hope they make many more movies with this creative team. I'm glad it was financially stronger than Bladerunner which broke my heart that it didn't make enough money being so expensive to make, long and uncompromising in vision.
Overall, this was crazy good for my taste. Damn, I can't wait for the next one!
Quote from: dave1978 on Oct 25, 2021, 10:34:20 AM
So can anyone who knows their Dune stuff explain why in the future they fight like medieval warfare with swords and infantry charge? why no ray guns etc? is it to do with the slow / fast shields thing?
Because Frank Herbert didn't want it to be too sci-fi. It's "soft" sci-fi, not "hard" sci-fi.
Perhaps
Dune is the forerunner of :laugh:
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Anyway, dragons from mythology and fantasy were inspiration for the sandworms. 🐉
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 26, 2021, 10:24:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12pJNX3CmYg
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Warhammer 40k wouldn't be the same without the influence of Lynch's Dune. Change my mind.
Quote from: dave1978 on Oct 25, 2021, 10:34:20 AM
So can anyone who knows their Dune stuff explain why in the future they fight like medieval warfare with swords and infantry charge? why no ray guns etc? is it to do with the slow / fast shields thing?
I ain't read the novels ect.. But I remember reading a few days ago and I can't remember were? That the body Shields they wear is good enough to stop fast moving objects like projectiles and Lazer beams. But the body armour shield is weak against slow-moving objects like knives daggers etc? That's why the prefer fighting with knives and spears and daggers. Anyhow don't take my word for it I'm no Dune expert by any means, it was something I read a few days ago.
One logical criticism of the concept itself about the shields. I get the idea of the slow blade piercing the shield, but why not combine the forcefield with great futuristic body armor made of materials that's impervious to blades? Blunt heavy weapons would still do damage, but sharp stuff would be useless.
Did anyone else ever wonder why the Atreides didn't simply bring a shitload of water with them from Caladan when they relocated to Arrakis? If nothing else, they could have offered it to the Fremen as a token of friendship.
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Guild surcharges, no doubt.
If anything, the Guild should have been all for it. Whatever it took to ensure the spice continued to flow.
Has anyone seen Jodorowsky's Dune documentary? Some people dislike and slate David Lynch's movie, which I think is great, but Jodorowsky's version of the film sounds like a psychedelic mess and I'm glad his version fell through. There are some details about Jodorowsky's Dune script here: Clicky (https://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/jodorowskys-dune-uncovered)
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Cinema needs more psychedelic messes, to be honest.
I'm glad it fell through for different, selfish reasons - namely, that Alien (and so many other projects that would come to be in the following years) was in a sense born from its ashes - but I also have to say, I would have loved to have seen Jodorowsky's version of the film. I don't think it would have been Dune in the way that Denis' film just so perfectly "gets" the book, but it would have been something fascinating in its own right (which is a sentiment I share about Lynch's movie as well).
The documentary is a pretty great watch as well.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 28, 2021, 01:31:52 PM
I'm glad it fell through for different, selfish reasons - namely, that Alien (and so many other projects that would come to be in the following years) was in a sense born from its ashes
Speaking of which, what projects other than Alien emerged from Jodorowsky's Dune failure ?
Star Wars
Given the bald and corpse pale look every Giedi Prime character has, I fully expect Feyd to look like the shirtless Engineer from the beginning of Prometheus.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 28, 2021, 02:00:16 PM
Star Wars
Was George Lucas connected to Dune failed production ?
No, but the project falling through freed up many of the creatives hired on the project, similar to Alien.
Aaah, I see
Still have to wait until December 2nd to see this masterpiece (Australia! 🤣), but absolutely cannot wait.
Just walked out of it, was alright at best honestly.
And the score was f**king awful, one of the worst Hans Zimmer's ever produced, he must have put all his effort into James Bond I reckon.
Correct.
Blade Runner 2049 ost was way better.
I'm actually of the opposite mindset on this one - I usually don't care for Zimmer much at all, and thought that
2049's score was fine sound design but couldn't hold a candle to Vangelis' work on the original, but I actually shockingly liked
Dune's score quite a bit more than I ever expected to.
Get this dude a record label:
This chant is basically throat singing. Nothing to do with Zimmer ;D
Quote from: Ingwar on Nov 04, 2021, 02:27:58 PM
This chant is basically throat singing. Nothing to do with Zimmer ;D
That's pretty much what ruined the music for me....I'd much prefer BR 2049s....
Quote from: Gentleman Death on Nov 04, 2021, 05:17:51 PM
That's pretty much what ruined the music for me
Chants or Zimmer? I love them chants. Very spiritual-alike. Remind me of Tibetan deep voice chants:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRMlQ2OtZlY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRMlQ2OtZlY)
Christ, I swear even if you put serotonin in some staunch, eDgY cynic's popcorn and gave em a blow job while they watched they'd still muster a way to go against the grain... 🤣
What Denis has pulled off is massive, and ought to be celebrated. What a time to be alive.
I'm not just being an edgelord, I have genuine reasons for it coming up as a okay at best rating, basically it did not substantially engage me intellectually or emotionally. I hope the other part far surpasses this.
Perhaps a comprehensive review is in order.
It's mainly a structural issue for me of not getting into the headspace of Paul and not feeling what he's feeling as a result, the wins and losses don't hit, I think it could greatly benefit from a longer cut and I never expected to say that about a Denis Villeneuve film.
Thoughts on both Lynch and Villeneuve versions -
Spoiler
Start off by saying I like about the first half of the Lynch version, up until Paul and his mom get lost in the desert. Then it's like the story doesn't know how to keep up with itself. I guess Villeneuve feels the same way because his version ends right as Paul is accepted by the desert people. I wasn't sure if it needed to be two parts at all (just give me a great big long version plus extended edition), but now it feels right.
I like some of the designs/visuals in the Lynch version as well, but it certainly doesn't look as good or has aged as well compared to stuff like Alien or Blade Runner. Villeneuve's version looks/sounds great (with his bizarre sense of sci-fi minimalism) with a scale and immensity almost (almost) comparable to LOTR
Dune 2021 is about as good as a Dune adaptation could be, in the same way Blade Runner 2049 is about as good as a Blade Runner sequel could be.
My thoughts on Dune 2021...
https://twitter.com/joshencinias/status/1457142561575817224 (https://twitter.com/joshencinias/status/1457142561575817224)
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 06, 2021, 02:54:59 PM
It's mainly a structural issue for me of not getting into the headspace of Paul and not feeling what he's feeling as a result, the wins and losses don't hit, I think it could greatly benefit from a longer cut and I never expected to say that about a Denis Villeneuve film.
Do you think the Lynch version did anything better?
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 07, 2021, 06:51:29 PM
https://twitter.com/joshencinias/status/1457142561575817224 (https://twitter.com/joshencinias/status/1457142561575817224)
Already cannot wait for this.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1460661707135721481
Based on the general aesthetic for the Harkonnens, Feyd will look like the shirtless engineer from Prometheus. :laugh:
https://twitter.com/PhilSzostak/status/1463038524647632896
Hoping we will see some new, never-before-seen, Moebius, Giger and Foss art.
Very exciting.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 07, 2021, 07:41:55 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 06, 2021, 02:54:59 PM
It's mainly a structural issue for me of not getting into the headspace of Paul and not feeling what he's feeling as a result, the wins and losses don't hit, I think it could greatly benefit from a longer cut and I never expected to say that about a Denis Villeneuve film.
Do you think the Lynch version did anything better?
Haven't seen the new
Dune yet, so I'm picking my way very carefully thru this thread 8)
Although I'm a big fan of the Frank Herbert novel, one thing I'm not so keen on is the 3rd person omniscient narrative style. From paragraph to paragraph you can jump from one person's POV to another (giving you each character's stream of consciousness); and then there'll be a POV jump to the next character, and then the next, and so on. I found this quite disruptive.
Compare this to Alex White's
the Cold Forge for contrast, where the main characters get whole chapters devoted to exclusively their points of view,. When something happens that deeply affects another character White notably resists the temptation to cut to that new person's POV. Contrary to what you might think, rather than distance you from the characters it has the reverse effect, deeply embedding you in each characters' subjectivity.
Now to Lynch's
Dune: His attempt to emulate the novel's POV style by over-dubbing characters' stream of consciousness as voice-overs just felt like clumsy on-the-nose storytelling. For me anyway.
In other respects, I enjoyed the old
Dune very much.
TC
Great long talk between Guillermo del Toro and Denis Villeneuve.
https://www.interviewmagazine.com/film/denis-villeneuve-takes-guillermo-del-toro-inside-the-world-of-dune
f**king what !? :o I was just sitting here, doing stuff with Best Of The Worst episode playing in background and didn't see this show up in my notifications. How could that be ? My brain can't handle this notion
They are the only YouTube's reviewers I see now. I'm not saying that the others are bad, I just like them more. 8)
James Cameron and Denis Villeneuve Talk 'Avatar,' 'Dune' and the Future of Movies
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/denis-villeneuve-james-cameron-avatar-dune-1235132632/
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 15, 2021, 06:01:50 PM
James Cameron and Denis Villeneuve Talk 'Avatar,' 'Dune' and the Future of Movies
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/denis-villeneuve-james-cameron-avatar-dune-1235132632/
Here's the original video conference (it gives you a feel for the tone of the discussion, that the transcript does not)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgZQK7cfx_0My biggest complaint with
Dune 2021 is that it's only half a movie. I hate it when they do that! Apart from that, it is excellence all around.
TC
Carlos Huane is posting a ton of sandworm concept art on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CX1jNVAPcZ6/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CX1wb8EPBRM/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CX2FBfCs8CV/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CX2UYRnMk02/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CX29E1-OkNa/
Carlos' obssesion with sharks continues
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1478861454740582402
After a couple of run-throuģhs I think it's a 7 maybe a 7.5 for me. Think 2049 is definitely the better film of the two. 2049's soundtrack is infinitely better, though Dune's not bad either. Gets a bit bland from time to time.
Don't really love the upbeat "ending". Think I would've actually preferred a cliffhanger type here or maybe an(other) apokalyptic vision..
The writing in general doesn't strike me as super good..
Nonetheless looking forward for Part 2
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 12, 2022, 10:24:24 PM
Nonetheless looking forward for Part 2
And nobody better spoil it for you either! >:(
Paul already spoiled it, with his damn visions. >:(
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 13, 2022, 02:39:27 AM
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 12, 2022, 10:24:24 PM
Nonetheless looking forward for Part 2
And nobody better spoil it for you either! >:(
A friend told me by now it's safe for me to read "Book 1". I don't know what that means of course. Can I trust him?
That depends. Is he Austrian?
Denis Villeneuve Updates On Dune Part Two; Promises 'Much More Harkonnen Stuff' – Exclusive
QuoteEver since the credits rolled on Dune last year, we've been dying to return to Arrakis and see the next part of Paul Atreides' story. The good news is, it's officially happening – director Denis Villeneuve got the green light to complete his adaptation of Frank Herbert's sci-fi epic after the success of the now Oscar- and BAFTA-nominated first instalment, with a proposed October 2023 release date for Dune: Part Two. There's plenty of the tale left to tell – and Villeneuve is raring to go.
Speaking to Empire in the upcoming Moon Knight issue, the filmmaker offered an update on the much-anticipated second film. "We are supposed to shoot by the end of the summer," he says. "I will say it is mostly designed. The thing that helps us right now is that it's the first time I've revisited a universe. So I'm working with the same crew, everybody knows what to do, we know what it will look like. The movie will be more challenging, but we know where we are stepping. And the screenplay is written. So I feel confident. Frankly, the only big unknown for me right now is the pandemic."
While splitting Herbert's book in two offered more time to establish Dune's world of fractured alliances, hard-fought resources, and exploited indigenous communities, Villeneuve still had to make tough decisions – including losing Gurney Halleck's baliset – in the first film. But in Part Two, there's a chance to bring certain things back to the surface. "When you adapt, you have to make bold choices in order for the things to come to life. And I think that was the best way to introduce this world to a wide audience. Now in the second one, I want to have more flexibility, and it will be possible to go a little bit deeper into some of these details," he explains. That includes introducing characters like Feyd-Rautha – as the focus of the story shifts to characters who played a smaller part last time around. "It's like a chess game. Some new characters will be introduced in the second part and a decision I made very early on was that this first part would be more about Paul Atreides and the Bene Gesserit, and his experience of being in contact for the first time with a different culture," says Villeneuve. "Second part, there will be much more Harkonnen stuff."
Most of all, Villeneuve sounds ready to go back and bask in the sands of Arrakis once more. "I just want to experience it, be present with it, every single moment of it," he says. "When I shoot a film, I shoot it like all my movies, as if it's the last one. I will do the same with Part Two." See you in the foyer in October 2023 with a box of Spice-covered popcorn.
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/denis-villeneuve-updates-dune-part-two-harkonnen-exclusive/
I anticipate Summer 2024, things being what they are at the minute.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 15, 2022, 04:45:57 AM
That depends. Is he Austrian?
Now that you mention it. He
is a bit irascible..
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 15, 2022, 01:27:24 PM
Denis Villeneuve Updates On Dune Part Two; Promises 'Much More Harkonnen Stuff' – Exclusive
More Harkonnen, more corpses.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 15, 2022, 04:58:10 PM
I anticipate Summer 2024, things being what they are at the minute.
>:(
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1501294405570994182
Irulan, has to be.
A female Feyd? ;)
https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/1502005944410013696
Denis Villeneuve on How Dune Survived the Upheaval of Hollywoodhttps://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/03/denis-villeneuve-on-how-dune-survived-the-upheaval-of-hollywood/amp
The closing paragraph of the article is of particular interest:
QuoteI'm finishing the screenplay now, and we expect to be shooting by summer, which is practically tomorrow morning. With the first half of Dune, the toughest part was introducing the world and laying down the rules. Now just the fun of the story is left. I'm always very cautious discussing movies that are in the making; they're full of fragile ideas. But the second one will definitely be more visual and less dialogue-driven. And, hopefully, there will be another film after that. Dune Messiah, Herbert's second novel in this universe, would make total sense as a third movie because it completes Paul Atreides's arc. I want to make part two as fast as possible, then I will wait a few years—until Timothée Chalamet gets a bit older—to do the final installment.
'Dune' Writer Eyeing Third Film and 'Investigating Other Cinematic Prospects' for the Franchisehttps://variety.com/2022/film/news/dune-3-more-movies-jon-spaihts-1235201886/
Holy moly :o
Letoworm we're getting closer
QuoteDune Messiah, Herbert's second novel in this universe, would make total sense as a third movie because it completes Paul Atreides's
Kiramidhead is going to be one happy chappy. :laugh:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 11, 2022, 06:43:20 PM
QuoteDune Messiah, Herbert's second novel in this universe, would make total sense as a third movie because it completes Paul Atreides's
Kiramidhead is going to be one happy chappy. :laugh:
Now Chappy forgive you.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1502957415897210881
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1503772526408781828
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1503818749799022595
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1504936494666063874
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1505586423541514241
https://twitter.com/Musetta_May/status/1508485228716859405
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Quote from: Denis Villeneuve"The truth is that one thing that helped me tremendously to direct Timothée [Chalamet] is, my son had cooked a banana cake a few months before we shot the movie, and the banana cake was very 'spicy' and I had the worst bad trip of my life. But it tremendously helped me, it sounds stupid, but it's good to experience things yourself sometimes. That bad trip, on marijuana, deeply helped me to direct Timothée in the visions, to explain to him the state I was looking for. And, strangely, when I mentioned the banana cake experience to Timothee, he got it. Here's the truth. Don't try this!"
Was that scene full CGI btw, maybe except TC's face? And the Holy Warriors on Caladan too? It looked (mainly the movements, I think) a bit fakey from time to time but overall pretty well done.
I liked the brightness and clarity of it in opposition to the washiness and dark blurriness you often get when visions are displayed.
It all felt like happening on a cloudless chilly day, shortly after sunrise. Cognition.
VFX work for Dune by artist Erik Lehman.
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QuoteAfter years of refusing to discuss the topic, David Lynch says he is interested in doing a director's cut of the 1984 Dune movie which he disowned.
https://screenrant.com/dune-1984-david-lynch-directors-cut-response/
:o
That would be amazing.
That's crazy. For decades it has been the golden rule of film journalism never to broach the subject of Dune during a Lynch interview.
It's akin to David Fincher saying he want's to do an Alien 3 directors cut.
Just got out of watching Twin Peaks documentsary and now this. Isn't that crazy ?
Anyway, gimme gimme gimme !
:o
:o
(But is Jodorowsky gonna watch it?)
Now it's your turn David Fincher.
Maybe Davids can figure something out
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 16, 2022, 08:23:20 PM
QuoteAfter years of refusing to discuss the topic, David Lynch says he is interested in doing a director's cut of the 1984 Dune movie which he disowned.
https://screenrant.com/dune-1984-david-lynch-directors-cut-response/
I hope they do go through with this! I love David Lynch's Dune. Lynch first mentioned a director's cut of Dune as far back as 1986 but nothing ever happened and it was never talked about again if memory serves.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 16, 2022, 10:26:44 PM
Now it's your turn David Fincher.
I wish...
I'd love to see the 4-hour cut with never-before-seen footage.
https://medium.com/fan-fare/david-lynch-4-hour-dune-1986-9306d41b7f1e
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 18, 2022, 02:27:00 PM
I'd love to see the 4-hour cut with never-before-seen footage.
https://medium.com/fan-fare/david-lynch-4-hour-dune-1986-9306d41b7f1e
Thank you for the link. Again I hope they allow David Lynch to edit and release a director's cut of Dune. As with the Alien movies Dune is another film I've always been fascinated with deleted and cut footage. Have you ever visited the duneinfo website?
Just come from watching The Northman and I'm pretty awed by it. I gotta say a not so small part of me wishes right now Eggers would've gotten the chance to direct the new Dune films.
His overall directional style, his handling of the weirder/phantastic sections, the way he creates suspense, dark atmosphere, portrays violence without entering gore territory.. All this stuff yet you never get the feeling that it's too much and the film leaves the realistic guard rails of it's approach. Would've been perfect for Dune imo.
Btw it's not that I'm unhappy with what DV gave us. It just feels a lot safer than what Eggers did here (and his is still a long and epic approach overall). It's the bit extra over the top that DV's Dune interpretation lacks (in parts) for me. And I don't mean Jodorowsky or even Lynch style. Just one or two scenes that punch you a bit more in the face or something like that.. I dunno maybe in the end my main problem is the different rating here?
But yea, everyone go see The Northman nauw.
Oh Lord and thaaaat soundtrack..
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1519369884295065600
Great news. Chernobyl is fantastic, especially directingwise. The calm brutality of Renck's style begs for Dune's world imo
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1524804455589285893
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Quote from: KiramidHead on May 12, 2022, 06:54:43 PMhttps://twitter.com/THR/status/1524804455589285893
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I would have never pictured Christopher Walken as Emperor Shaddam IV let alone have him in a list of choices of actors to screen for the role. This is interesting indeed. Can't wait for part 2 :)
Via Production Weekly, Dune: The Sisterhood is set to begin shooting in September.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 05, 2022, 03:34:24 AMVia Production Weekly, Dune: The Sisterhood is set to begin shooting in September.
Can't help but think that HBO Max axed "Raised By Wolves" and moved the funds to finance this series.
On a prequel side note, Boom Comics adapted "House Atreides" into a 12 issue series with the same visual language from the film. They've also adapted a couple of short stories into one shots (Blood of Sardakaur and A Whisper of Calladan Seas). I'd never read any of the Dune novels so this prequel really helped me identify and remember all the different houses/factions/players/planets etc and therefore enhanced the viewing experience on my most recent watch of the film due to a better understanding of the world(s). So I'd highly recommend reading them.
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Jun 05, 2022, 12:29:22 PMCan't help but think that HBO Max axed "Raised By Wolves" and moved the funds to finance this series.
:'(
'Dune Part 2': Léa Seydoux To Play Lady Margot In Upcoming Sequel For Legendary
https://deadline.com/2022/06/dune-part-2-lea-seydoux-to-play-lady-margot-in-upcoming-sequel-for-legendary-1235048753/
I wasn't expecting this character to even appear in the adaptation, so hearing that she will be in it is incredibly exciting, and I really love Léa Seydoux.
I guess this also means we'll be seeing Count Fenring. Wonder who they're going to get to play him?
Dune: Part Two has delayed a month to November 2023:
https://variety.com/2022/film/box-office/dune-part-two-release-date-delay-1235306925/
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 21, 2022, 05:20:05 PMI guess this also means we'll be seeing Count Fenring. Wonder who they're going to get to play him?
Don't even roughly remember Fenring's book age, but I would just love to see John Malkovich make an appearance in this.. always thought he would've made a fantastic Emperor too.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1543241900982996993
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1543659261993095170
First look at Irulan:
Spoiler
https://twitter.com/cravemedia_/status/1547416372132593666
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https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1547646789049675777
Playing Shishakli.
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1549056483198771201
Seems like Dune: The Siterhood is not going to be among the victims of the Discovery/WB merger, thankfully, and is currently casting:
https://deadline.com/2022/08/hbo-max-layoffs-reality-amy-gravitt-sarah-aubrey-reorg-acquisitions-casting-international-1235091596/
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1565401766421725186
If this holds true, then this is going to be set WAY earlier in the timeline than I assumed it would be.
I want a Dune prequel set in, like, 1965 or something. Something with just the barest, most tenuous links to the later Dune timeline, like some random background character's name in the credits ends up being "Harkonnen" or something.
^ When David Lynch walks out it was too Dune
'Dune' Prequel Series at HBO Max Casts Emily Watson, Shirley Henderson
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QuoteThe "Dune" prequel series at HBO Max from Legendary Television has cast Emily Watson and Shirley Henderson in lead roles, Variety has learned.
Officially titled "Dune: The Sisterhood," the series was ordered at HBO Max in June 2019. The show is set 10,000 years before the events of "Dune" and is based on the novel "Sisterhood of Dune" by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson. Per the official logline, the show "follows the Harkonnen Sisters as they combat forces that threaten the future of humankind, and establish the fabled sect known as the Bene Gesserit"
Watson will play Valya Harkonnen and Henderson will play Tula Harkonnen. The character descriptions say the two sisters "have risen to power in the Sisterhood, a secret organization of women who will go on to become the Bene Gesserit."
Watson is a two-time best actress Oscar nominee — one for her work in "Breaking the Waves" and another for "Hilary and Jackie." Her other film credits include "Gosford Park," "Red Dragon," and "The Book Thief." In television, she earned an Emmy nomination for her supporting role in the hit HBO limited series "Chernobyl." She has also starred in shows like "The Third Day," "Genius," and the 2017 miniseries version of "Little Women."
She is repped by Independent Talent Group, UTA, and Schreck Rose.
Henderson is perhaps best known to American audiences for playing Moaning Myrtle in the films "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" and "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," as well as for her roles in the "Bridget Jones" franchise. Henderson has also starred in films like "Trainspotting," "Okja," and "24 Hour Party People."
She is repped by Hamilton Hodell and Goodman Genow.
Variety exclusively reported that Diane Ademu-John is the creator, co-showrunner, and executive producer on "Dune: The Sisterhood." Alison Schapker serves as co-showrunner and executive producer. Johan Renck will direct the premiere episode and executive produce. Renck previously worked with Watson on "Chernobyl."
Denis Villeneuve, Jon Spaihts, Scott Z. Burns, Matthew King, John Cameron and Cait Collins executive produce with Brian Herbert, Byron Merritt and Kim Herbert for the Frank Herbert estate. Anderson serves as co-producer. The series is co-produced by HBO Max and Legendary TV.
Legendary is also producing the recent film reboot of "Dune." The first of the two planned films was released in October 2021, grossing just over $400 million worldwide. The sequel is currently in production and is expected to be released in November 2023. Villeneuve is the director of both films, with Spaihts and Villeneuve writing the screenplays of both films as well.
"Dune" won six Academy Award nominations after its release, and also received nominations for best picture and best adapted screenplay.
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/dune-prequel-series-hbo-max-cast-emily-watson-shirley-henderson-1235392857/
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1579966741547220995
They tried and failed?
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1580594125128073219
Game of Thrones? Obi-Wan?
ROME!
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1580956767701258240
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1583178829706952704
https://twitter.com/duneinfo/status/1590106315396972546
Sounds like he'd be playing Marcus from
Raised By Wolves again. :laugh: Praise Sol.
EDIT: He's confirmed: https://deadline.com/2022/11/travis-fimmel-cast-dune-the-sisterhood-hbo-max-series-1235167271/
QuoteFimmel will play Desmond Hart, a charismatic soldier with an enigmatic past, who seeks to gain the Emperor's trust at the expense of the Sisterhood.
Production has begun on
Dune: The Sisterhood.
EDIT: Just realized, Mark Strong has been tagged in this post. Looks like he is in the show!
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1595567926471708673
https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1594944813714939904
I finally got to see this. It shares many scenes with the much maligned 80s film. That film was terribly boring and this one isn't much better in that regard. Not a bad film but Not really my cup of tea either. Really cool spaceships and overall art though. The worms were spectacular as well.
the 80s films feels very amateur compared to this one.
I'll probably watch it again on tv someday.
No milking cat to get antidote 0/10
Quote from: nanison on Nov 25, 2022, 06:29:21 PMI finally got to see this. It shares many scenes with the much maligned 80s film. That film was terribly boring and this one isn't much better in that regard. Not a bad film but Not really my cup of tea either. Really cool spaceships and overall art though. The worms were spectacular as well.
the 80s films feels very amateur compared to this one.
I'll probably watch it again on tv someday.
You better not watch it on your
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Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 25, 2022, 06:44:30 PMNo milking cat to get antidote 0/10
*Jay Bauman's sounds of approval"
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 25, 2022, 07:43:05 PMQuote from: nanison on Nov 25, 2022, 06:29:21 PMI finally got to see this. It shares many scenes with the much maligned 80s film. That film was terribly boring and this one isn't much better in that regard. Not a bad film but Not really my cup of tea either. Really cool spaceships and overall art though. The worms were spectacular as well.
the 80s films feels very amateur compared to this one.
I'll probably watch it again on tv someday.
You better not watch it on your
https://media.tenor.com/pLX2Vw0Ed0gAAAAd/f**king-phone.gif
I rented it on tv
Rather dreary in terms of visuals. I think the mini-series did better in terms of production design, although what Jodorowsky had in mind looks intriguing.
As for the content, I think any adaptation is more proper for a mini-series, and storytelling has to be tightened because it's done visually.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1598402196558807044
Wasn't expecting the Sinestro Corps in Dune.
He will always be Matai Shang to me.
Fu*k me that IMAX stuff looks freshasfu*k
https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1600844662352355329
Give the Harkonnen a blade --
He ain't nothing but a hound dog.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1602372476293435392
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 12, 2022, 06:41:52 PMhttps://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1602372476293435392
Three fingers: Dune Messiah confirmed
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1602748898249887745
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604325372841136128 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604325372841136128)
haha dafuq
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1611465589880459264
Count Fenring, maybe?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 06, 2023, 10:17:52 PMCount Fenring, maybe?
That was my first thought. Really solid casting if so.
No nuts no Kwisatz Haderach
And I'm guessing Seydoux is Margo.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 07, 2023, 02:13:41 AMAnd I'm guessing Seydoux is Margo.
That was confirmed along with her original casting announcement, so Count Fenring has really been the only hole in the cast list left. Nelson would definitely fill that slot nicely.
Dang wish this would be R-rated, probably won't I know..
Gopher, Everett?
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1621904846805782528
Wonder if it would've replaced Chani's prologue.. Hard to picture the two of them working together.
Anyway sounds a bit too JJ Trek to me, so I think I'm glad DV decided against
https://twitter.com/dune_frames/status/1625053555127189506
Every time I hear about a new one, I find myself wishing so badly that Denis would release these deleted scenes.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1630722769871687682
Welp...
Reading through the article, and it seems that the main point of contention between WB/HBO Max and Schapker is that his work on the show so far hasn't looked/felt like Villeneuve's work on the film but like... shouldn't that be the point? It's a whole different story set in a different time/place than the film. I don't want it to be one to one what we're getting from Denis on the big screen. Let this exist on its own merits and tell its own story within this world, in its own way.
Quick, while Travis Fimmel's schedule is open for a while again, someone call up Aaron Guzikowski and get Raised By Wolves season 3 back on track.
Teaser soon babey maby??
Quote from: kwisatz on Mar 11, 2023, 09:09:36 PMTeaser soon babey maby??
I'm thinking probably with
The Flash, since that seems to be Warner's first real major release of the year.
You worried because all them kids involved?
Quote from: kwisatz on Mar 11, 2023, 09:22:42 PMYou worried because all them kids involved?
That's Alia of the Knife to you.
They grow up so fast
I look forward to Alia in Dune M3ssiah.
I really need to try and read Dune before the new movie comes out; but honestly I found it hard going. It's very densely written with a constant foray of made up names and terms.
It's just excellent worldbuildung though.
Quote from: T Dog on Mar 11, 2023, 10:08:04 PMI really need to try and read Dune before the new movie comes out; but honestly I found it hard going. It's very densely written with a constant foray of made up names and terms.
You
should read it. Just don't spoil kwisatz! >:(
The glossary in the back helps a lot.
Wonder if we're gonna hear 'Jihad' in Part 2 ;D
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 11, 2023, 10:23:10 PMQuote from: T Dog on Mar 11, 2023, 10:08:04 PMI really need to try and read Dune before the new movie comes out; but honestly I found it hard going. It's very densely written with a constant foray of made up names and terms.
You should read it. Just don't spoil kwisatz! >:(
I'll try. I just need something light to get my brain back into the rhythm of reading books again.
No rhythm. That's what attracts the worms.
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1635334390871097344
Great :/
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1635665217345445889
Lots of juicy details in here.
Great! ;D
https://twitter.com/Tinaguo/status/1638300471948640256
"I can't hear Hans"
Apparently leaked, low res concept art of Feyd:
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 26, 2023, 02:34:09 AMApparently leaked, low res concept art of Feyd:
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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 26, 2023, 09:54:16 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 26, 2023, 02:34:09 AMApparently leaked, low res concept art of Feyd:
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https://images.app.goo.gl/y5cUNk9AcSztCUtx7
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First thing I thought too lol
First thing I thought was actually
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M. Bison (well yea in skinny)
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Oh yeah, I see the top of his head can also be interpreted as an officers peak cap. Though it also looks like he might be wearing a hoodie with a Mohawk or pronounced widows peak and sunglasses. 8)
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https://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1643180922106257411
Lmao
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 04, 2023, 11:33:39 AMhttps://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1643180922106257411
Has Jodorowsky seen it yet? ;D
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 04, 2023, 03:02:57 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 04, 2023, 11:33:39 AMhttps://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1643180922106257411
Has Jodorowsky seen it yet? ;D
Yes:
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😲 saved!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 04, 2023, 11:33:39 AMhttps://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1643180922106257411
Lynch should've directed Return Of The Jedi instead
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 04, 2023, 05:04:51 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 04, 2023, 11:33:39 AMhttps://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1643180922106257411
Lynch should've directed Return Of The Jedi instead
HEADACHE.
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 04, 2023, 05:04:51 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 04, 2023, 11:33:39 AMhttps://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1643180922106257411
Lynch should've directed Return Of The Jedi instead
Jaaaa!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PALjbTo1D5ULove that "I am not an animal" part
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Quote from: Kradan on Apr 04, 2023, 05:04:51 PMLynch should've directed Return Of The Jedi instead
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 04, 2023, 05:08:25 PMHEADACHE.
That video of Lynch talking about his meeting with George Lucas always gives me a laugh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQ4vCu-S0U
https://twitter.com/jkr_on_the_web/status/1646192924806332420 (https://twitter.com/jkr_on_the_web/status/1646192924806332420)
https://twitter.com/JulienKimmig/status/1646187857252433926 (https://twitter.com/JulienKimmig/status/1646187857252433926)
https://twitter.com/screenrant/status/1647963226963836932
https://twitter.com/Legendary/status/1644360021743140865
https://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1650887182800887814
EDIT: https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1650915146032726037
EDIT 2: Highlights from the panel all in this thread, including a very brief description of the footage that was shown:
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1650935343649280000
https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/status/1650938364747739136
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1650936437116641280
https://twitter.com/AndrewJ626/status/1650937873124966400
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 04, 2023, 11:33:39 AMhttps://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1643180922106257411
Wow.
Seems... salty?
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 25, 2023, 10:38:47 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 04, 2023, 11:33:39 AMhttps://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1643180922106257411
Wow.
Seems... salty?
Nah, I wouldn't say salty.
Dune was an absolutely miserable experience on set for Lynch, the only film he's made he didn't have total control over and it kind of sticks out like a sore thumb in his body of work as a result. I can't imagine he'd really want to think about delve into anything with the association to that now, nor have it brought up to him in an interview like this. It'd be like cornering Fincher and asking him what he thinks of Blomkamp's alternate
Alien 3 ideas.
I enjoy Lynch's
Dune for what it is (even though it pretty much derails in the second half, and it doesn't really have a grip on its source material),
especially visually (there's really nothing else that looks like that movie, and it's really something to behold in that regard), and can totally see what he was going for with the project, but I also totally get him wanting to keep it as far out of his mind as possible and I don't blame him for that at all.
I've never seen Lynch's Dune from beginning to end but Amazon has the upcoming 4K release and I'm tempted to blind-buy it.
I firmly believe that we can thank Lynch's Dune for much of Warhammer 40k.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 25, 2023, 11:27:26 PMI've never seen Lynch's Dune from beginning to end but Amazon has the upcoming 4K release and I'm tempted to blind-buy it.
It's a mess, but a very interesting one. As a curiosity, I do definitely recommend it. It actually adapts the first half of the book (pretty much what was in Denis' first film) pretty well, though after that it tries to cram the remainder of the novel into roughly 40 minutes of screentime and ooh boy did it need some space to breathe there. Lynch also didn't seem to totally get (or, more likely, didn't seem to totally care about) some of the logistics of what's going on with the novel, namely the ecology of Arrakis and the nature of "prophecy" in this world (the rain sequence in his film is pretty funny if you know what that would actually do to the planet, the worms, and the spice in the books), and there's a lot of really stilted, awkward voiceover to convey exposition, lore, etc. but I can't
really bring myself to dislike the movie, even with the film's many problems being as prominent as they are (and I totally get why Lynch would resent the film and the experience he had making it). It orbits this weird space between being a David Lynch movie and being a
Dune adaptation and it's pretty much the worst example of column A and column B in that chart, but it's also this real anomaly that kind of has to be seen. It's a really neat, perplexing little oddity.
Also, the worms look phenomenal. Like, 1:1 like they came right off of the book covers. Carlo Rambaldi's work is impeccable there. His work on the Navigator is also excellent. The production design across the board is incredible.
Man, after talking about it I'm actually getting myself in the mood to revisit this thing again I think...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 25, 2023, 11:44:27 PMI firmly believe that we can thank Lynch's Dune for much of Warhammer 40k.
I don't know much about 40K outside of its overall aesthetic, but just visually... this does seem to track.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 25, 2023, 11:27:26 PMI've never seen Lynch's Dune from beginning to end but Amazon has the upcoming 4K release and I'm tempted to blind-buy it.
It's got everything Villeneuve's Dune hasn't. Heartplugs, weirding modules, boils and pugs.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 26, 2023, 09:06:05 AMQuote from: Xenomrph on Apr 25, 2023, 11:27:26 PMI've never seen Lynch's Dune from beginning to end but Amazon has the upcoming 4K release and I'm tempted to blind-buy it.
It's got everything Villeneuve's Dune hasn't. Heartplugs, weirding modules, boils and pugs.
All my favorite key details from the novel!
A cat you have to milk to get your antidote...
I was surprised the heart-plug scene had been removed from the Extended Edition. Maybe it was just censored in my version.
Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 26, 2023, 11:10:32 AMI was surprised the heart-plug scene had been removed from the Extended Edition. Maybe it was just censored in my version.
I haven't seen the extended version, but if I'm not mistaken I think that cut originally aired on TV so that might be why that particularly gruesome moment was censored? I know Lynch had no input on that extended version and doesn't recognize it as being his film.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1651137298635923457
I am excited.
Villeneuve is quickly becoming one of my all-time favorite directors.
Arrival, fantastic
Blade Runner 2049, fantastic
Dune part 1, fantastic
I am absolutely overjoyed that he's adapting 'Rendezvous with Rama', I've been waiting for an adaptation of that for like 20+ years, ever since David Fincher said he was going to do one with Morgan Freeman.
https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/1651572039315083267
Tons of additional photos (including first looks at Feyd, Irulan, and Margot Fenring) in the article, too!
It's me - kwisatzworm
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Wrong Atreides! >:(
Feyd Rautha:
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At least he doesn't seem to look too much like M.Bison.
Margot Fenring:
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Princes Irulan:
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Wrong Atreides! >:(
Or is it? ;)
Maybe that's Feyd entering the arena on Giedi Prime to fight the Atreides prisoner?
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 27, 2023, 02:00:53 PMMaybe that's Feyd entering the arena on GP to fight the Atreides prisoner?
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I think you're right. Two blades, black and white, one poisoned...
Might as well be a still from that new Alien series ;D
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 27, 2023, 02:12:38 PMMight as well be a still from that new Alien series ;D
Dune has no thinking machines! >:(
:laugh:
Will Feyd talk in the Elvis voice? Butler can't seem to shake it. :laugh:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 27, 2023, 02:13:38 PMQuote from: kwisatz on Apr 27, 2023, 02:12:38 PMMight as well be a still from that new Alien series ;D
Dune has no thinking machines! >:(
Feyd could trigger a
Butlerian Jihad!
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2023, 02:29:37 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 27, 2023, 02:13:38 PMQuote from: kwisatz on Apr 27, 2023, 02:12:38 PMMight as well be a still from that new Alien series ;D
Dune has no thinking machines! >:(
Feyd could trigger a Butlerian Jihad!
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edit I just realised: the beheading aspect here's definitely unintentional.. was only going for 'totally demolished' lul
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1652813600929505281
I don't like sand
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1653429176878395394
This f**king premiere bullshit.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1653454325333762048
God, I cannot wait for this footage tomorrow.
Also, adoring both of Irulan's outfits that we've seen so far. Dare I say, they're even a bit Moebius-esque. Making me very curious what Walken is going to look like as her father, too...
That Irulan outfit is giving me All-Star Superman Kryptonian vibes.
https://twitter.com/metaplexmovies/status/1653479692358365184
All aspect ratios are cool, just not putting friggin' Justice League in 4:3. :laugh:
It just fries my mind that the IMAX scenes in Dune weren't preserved for their home release, since WB is usually pretty good about that sort of thing.
Part Two shot 100% in the IMAX format. Gonna be pretty bummed if the only home release ends up cropped...
mustresistbigscreenathomegnaaaaa
Trailer is in Imax format though... :laugh:
Good to see Feyd's gladiatorial scene is in the film, but why in black and white?
Also, Lady Fenring seducing Feyd. ;D
And Engineer vibes from Feyd.
Yep, looks like roid rage to me..
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But will we see engineer Feyd in his space jockey's at the end?
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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 03, 2023, 04:17:30 PMTrailer is in Imax format though... :laugh:
Good to see Feyd's gladiatorial scene is in the film, but why in black and white?
My guess is that it's going to be the opening scene of the film (presented potentially as a flashback out of real time, since it'll probably have happened during the events of the first one), so that we end the first movie on Paul's duel with Jamis (and his reluctance to kill there) and then immediately start
Part Two with the brutality of Feyd in the fighting pits to directly contrast the two.
Absolutely loving the visualization of it in black and white.
No sign of Alia yet, I'm super curious to see how she's realized on screen.
Also, Water of Life:
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I think the Water of Life sequence may just be the part I'm most excited to see visualized in this one.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 03, 2023, 04:51:25 PMAbsolutely loving the visualization of it in black and white.
Kinda gives off Giger vibes as well.
Fukk I need to get home quickly to massively spoil myself
One thing that was neat in the draft I read of the first film is that there's a minor named character who gets captured during Duncan's raid on the Baron's spice supplies, and it says right in the script that he'll be the one to fight Feyd. Shame that whole sequence was cut.
Going back to this:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 03, 2023, 04:23:26 PMAnd Engineer vibes from Feyd.
I was just reminded that in
Prometheus, one of the touchpoints for the Engineers' design was actually Elvis. Full circle, eh?
Alien clearly is in the dune universe. :laugh:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 03, 2023, 04:51:25 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 03, 2023, 04:17:30 PMTrailer is in Imax format though... :laugh:
Good to see Feyd's gladiatorial scene is in the film, but why in black and white?
My guess is that it's going to be the opening scene of the film (presented potentially as a flashback out of real time, since it'll probably have happened during the events of the first one), so that we end the first movie on Paul's duel with Jamis (and his reluctance to kill there) and then immediately start Part Two with the brutality of Feyd in the fighting pits to directly contrast the two.
Like that theory.
Or could this be connected to the two year time gap? Like some sort of (visualised) Intermission or something?
Quote from: kwisatz on May 03, 2023, 07:15:06 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 03, 2023, 04:51:25 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 03, 2023, 04:17:30 PMTrailer is in Imax format though... :laugh:
Good to see Feyd's gladiatorial scene is in the film, but why in black and white?
My guess is that it's going to be the opening scene of the film (presented potentially as a flashback out of real time, since it'll probably have happened during the events of the first one), so that we end the first movie on Paul's duel with Jamis (and his reluctance to kill there) and then immediately start Part Two with the brutality of Feyd in the fighting pits to directly contrast the two.
Like that theory. Or could this be connected to the two year time gap? Like some sort of (visualised) Intermission or something?
Could be used there, yeah, though I guess if that were the case, we probably wouldn't be seeing Feyd at all before the time jump since the duel here is almost surely his introduction. However, I kind of expect the time jump to actually happen during the Water of Life sequence, with Jessica's visions there bridging us from one point in time to the next.
Ja, utilising Jessica's Water of Life ceremony and her visions for this makes the most sense, I guess. I don't think we'll get another narration sequence (like in Lynch's film), since DV already used one in the very beginning.
I'm not sure though he would want a flashback and a timejump scene both in "one" film though? But yea the timejump is the vision is the timejump this may work just fine actually.
Home in a hour cannnnot wait
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"When I was lying there in the V.A. hospital with a big hole blown through the middle of my life, I started having these dreams of flying. I was free."
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"Have you ever had a dream about your first ride?"
Ok, watched it. I liked it, but I really didn't expect it to be this light in tone.
Also: could it just be the natural light on Giedi Prime? Like their sun's a white giant or something something. Would also further explain their general mind-set ;)
Actually pretty clever solution to get on top of the worm. Always worried a bit how they handle this delicate stuff (remember the scene in Lynch's version? :laugh:)
Quote from: kwisatz on May 03, 2023, 08:24:19 PMOk, watched it
You're going to get into
Trouble for that, you know.
Quote from: kwisatz on May 03, 2023, 08:24:19 PMAlso: could it just be the natural light on Giedi Prime?
Maybe Giedi's sun only gives out infrared light, which is black and white.
Quote from: kwisatz on May 03, 2023, 08:24:19 PMActually pretty clever solution to get on top of the worm. Always worried a bit how they would manage to pull it off (remember the scene in Lynch's version? :laugh:)
Wasn't really a problem in the book, hook it on the bottom and the worm just naturally rotates upwards to prevent sand getting into the areas exposed by the hooks.
QuoteWasn't really a problem in the book, hook it on the bottom and the worm just naturally rotates upwards to prevent sand getting into the areas exposed by the hooks.
Yea, in theory ok. But from a more visual standpoint I was never too convinced that is a good idea to show how one approaches these beasts at ground level without being crushed or buried under tons of sand.. They are Fremen though (but not Legolas) ;)
We already know what Giger
Dune would look like without AI.
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Ok just couple of things I don't like too much (always something ;) ):
Paul re-using Jamis' line in his fight with Feyd.
I feel like I know (and actually have seen) every important beat of the wormriding sequence. Hope I'm wrong
Too much daylight. I demand more darkness, more Sietch atmosphere, more desperation and fatality. Maybe a second trailer will focus more on the brooding dark esoteric elements that hopefully are also part of Dune: Part Part
And to end with a super controversial one: I don't love the shot of the last fight. I should love it but it doesn't really click with me. Won't say it looks generic, but I don't find it too creative either.
Yea overall small things here and there, I suppose
Love love love the GP black and white hell (whatever it ultimately turns out to be). Artsy and menacing, some unique shit
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 03, 2023, 10:29:39 PMWe already know what Giger Dune would look like without AI.
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God I wish we could have seen this.
Quote from: kwisatz on May 03, 2023, 10:33:51 PMToo much daylight. I demand more darkness, more Sietch atmosphere, more desperation and fatality. Maybe a second trailer will focus more on the brooding dark esoteric elements that hopefully are also part of Dune: Part Part
I honestly wouldn't be shocked if the second trailer ends up building itself around the Water of Life/time jump angle (and probably showcasing a bit more of the Harkonnen and maybe even Emperor side of the story as well), and if so I'd expect that one to take on a bit of a darker tone overall; this trailer definitely felt like it was welcoming the audience back to this world, and building itself all around the worm riding sequence. But there's a lot of darker elements of what Paul as a leader here actually means that I fully expect the upcoming promo materials (and absolutely the film itself) to start delving into, given how much Denis seems to want to adapt
Messiah as well. There are hints of it near the end of the trailer, with Jessica and Paul's exchange:
"We gave them something to hope for." "That's not hope!"As far as "brooding and dark" goes, I'm also quite excited for when we eventually get to see how Alia and her big moment near the end of the book is handled.
https://twitter.com/nerdist/status/1653857798873137153
Can we figure out a way to hide this thread from kwisatz? I'm afraid that you degenerates are going to violate his innocence with your spoiler-filled discussions. >:(
Loving the deeper saturation with some of those desert shots. Austin Butler looks positively terrifying. Villeneuve, man, Villeneuve. 🔥
Gorgeous.
Can't think of a better director to helm Dune, probably even in the entire history of film.
Would've also loved to see Eggers take though.
I'm seeing Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 in IMAX tonight, so I'm sure they're gonna play the Dune: Part Two trailer on that screen beforehand. 8)
I have to read the book again before going to cinema. It's been a while since I've read it.
Quote from: kwisatz on May 04, 2023, 10:49:13 AMCan't think of a better director to helm Dune, probably even in the entire history of film.
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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 04, 2023, 12:22:06 PMQuote from: kwisatz on May 04, 2023, 10:49:13 AMCan't think of a better director to helm Dune, probably even in the entire history of film.
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The Jodo's
Dune to Denis
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Still would have liked to see a post-Blade Runner Scott tackle Dune. He would have had Giger, Cobb and Moebius onboard again guaranteed.
His version of Dune would also have been split over two films.
..as long as Paul Atreides has mullet hairstyle :laugh: :P
Who wouldn't want to see a Jodo Dune? Heck I want a Gaspar Noé version of Dune. Still think DV is better suited for the material. Even better than peak Ridley imo.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 04, 2023, 12:34:36 PM..as long as Paul Atreides has mullet hairstyle :laugh: :P
The Harkonen's would admittedly look cool with half-helmets as well. :P
Regarding Jodorowsky, I really need to get around to reading The Matabarons. I loved The Incal. So much of Jodo's Dune wound up in those comics.
Quote from: kwisatz on May 04, 2023, 12:35:19 PMEven better than peak Ridley imo.
That is heresy. I think Local has a point, we need to get you removed off this thread. :P
Also, I think it's time to crack open my copy of Dune again. Read it a couple times over the last few years but I want to revisit it before Part Two is out.
I've actually only read up to Children, so I'm thinking this time I might actually finally read all six of Frank's novels.
He doesn't know letoworm.
Spoiler
HE DOESN'T KNOW LETOWORM
Quote from: kwisatz on May 04, 2023, 01:02:22 PMHe doesn't know letoworm.
Spoiler
HE DOESN'T KNOW LETOWORM
I do know the letoworm, and everything I know about
God Emperor sounds endlessly fascinating. Really, really itching to read that one, but not 'til after I revisit
Messiah and
Children!
God, watching that trailer was the sexiest thing I've ever seen... :o
Quote from: Still Collating... on May 04, 2023, 03:49:07 PMGod, watching that trailer was the sexiest thing I've ever seen... :o
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Gotta admit I'm a bit displeased Léa's not playing Irulan --
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 04, 2023, 12:29:59 PMStill would have liked to see a post-Blade Runner Scott tackle Dune. He would have had Giger, Cobb and Moebius onboard again guaranteed.
His version of Dune would also have been split over two films.
And Vangelis. Imagine.
Considering the script Scott was using supposedly had Paul and Jessica getting it on, I'd say we dodged a bullet.
Do we know why Scott's Dune didn't happen?
He has given several different reasons in different interviews so far:
1. The untimely death of his brother.
2. Loss of interest in subject matter "why am I doing this?"
3. Mexico was too "pongy" for his tastes and he didn't want to "rough it".
I'm glad it didn't happen. I love practical effects but nowadays technology makes certain things way easier and they can look better if used properly. I don't think you could make proper Dune movie without CGI.
It might have ended up like Lynch's Dune. According to him "it was slow dying the death and terrible, terrible experience".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlE7DZrzik0
Imagine Lynch (maybe with one or two "normal" writers ;) ) doing a series based on God Emperor..
I love a lot of stuff about Lynch's Dune (although I'm admittedly a bit biased as a big Lynch fanboy), but it is without a doubt a flawed film and adaptation. Makes me sad to know it was a bad experience for him and he ultimately sees the film as a blight in his great filmography. Would have loved to see his version with full control and final cut.
I'm actually going to be seeing a 35mm screening of it at a David Lynch retrospective this month and I'm looking forward to revisiting it and for it to get my more hyped for the villeneuve version
I actually think directors like Lynch and Jodorowsky would be more suited to God-Emperor on, as weird as those books get.
I've only read first two.
Someday I'd like to try and take on the arduous task of reading all the Dune books.
Might check out the audiobooks when I'm in full on Dune mode for Part Two lol
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I'm planning to read only Frank's books. Nothing else.
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I look like a higher being
Turning my knife into a halo
I had a boss named David Lynch (no relation to the director) but he looked just like David Lynch (the director) but with a different hairstyle, although he had a super-thick New York accent.
I bought him this (https://www.amazon.com/David-Lynch-Criterion-Collection-Blu-ray/dp/B071XF835V) for Christmas one year.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
https://twitter.com/insighteditions/status/1659283706027339776
I'm simply the best looking Massenmörder
Dear Esteemed Members of the Dune Thread,
Greetings to you all, and I trust this message finds you at your best. The reason for this communication is a matter close to the heart of our community's ethos - the protection and respect of each individual's journey through the incredible world of Frank Herbert's Dune.
We have been made aware that one among us, our esteemed fellow member 'kwisatz', is on the precipice of a grand journey into the magnificent expanse of Dune's intricate universe. Unlike many of us, who have already navigated the vast, sandy terrains of Arrakis, explored the far-reaching corners of the cosmos, and unravelled the intricacies of the saga's complex socio-political webs, kwisatz is at the dawn of this exploration.
In essence, kwisatz stands at the foot of an immense sand dune, prepared to traverse its uncharted landscapes, guided only by the sparse but enticing summaries on the dust jackets of the Dune series. The film adaptation is kwisatz's first step into this unknown, an initiation into a saga that we all hold dear. We have a unique opportunity to support this voyage and to contribute to preserving the sheer wonder and exhilaration that accompanies this initial discovery.
It is therefore of the utmost importance, dear friends, that we nurture this innocence and protect the nascent sense of wonder in kwisatz as he begins this journey. We must guard against the inadvertent revelation of spoilers, ensuring that his first encounter with the Dune saga, through the film, remains an untainted experience.
With this heartfelt plea, I request your active participation in ensuring a spoiler-free environment for kwisatz. Let us abide by the time-honored etiquette of fandom and refrain from disclosing any plot details or twists, from either the film or the subsequent books. Let's use spoiler alerts judiciously, giving kwisatz, and others like him, the opportunity to skip content that might prematurely reveal aspects of the story.
In conclusion, dear members, our collective love for Dune binds us together. We are caretakers of this shared passion, and it is incumbent upon us to foster an environment where each of us, like kwisatz, can experience the sheer magic of our first journey through the sands of Arrakis.
May we continue to honor the rich tapestry of Dune, respecting each individual's unique journey through its vast deserts and star-lit galaxies. Let the spice flow freely, but let it flow with consideration and respect.
Thank you for your understanding, cooperation, and dedication to preserving the magic of Dune for all.
Yours in Dune,
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And I thought climate change was humanity's greatest threat.
Ridley Scott tried to warn y'all!
He tried to warn ye!!
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1666143628765347843
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1671262793213915138
Okay..? Not something (directly) from the book I suppose, since you wouldn't need an extra writer for it?!
I look forward to Hangover characters showing up. ;)
Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 21, 2023, 02:56:57 AMOkay..? Not something (directly) from the book I suppose, since you wouldn't need an extra writer for it?!
Could just be doing a bit of a pass over a few elements of the script that Denis & Spaihts couldn't quite crack in their draft, rather than whole new scenes from scratch, since in the article seems to imply that the work Mazin did on
Part Two is essentially what used to pass as an uncredited rewrite.
Though in the past Mazin has been brought in to assist on sort of ancillary elements in movies like this as well. He helped Rian Johnson write the opening crawl for
The Last Jedi, for example.
I'd imagine that we'll probably get some more specific details on what his involvement actually was once the movie is out, though.
Oh yeah!
FUKK I'm in the middle of NOWHERE >:(
Good! You don't need to see that.
Somehow every shot here is blowing the already incredibly gorgeous first film right out of the water, God...
Loving seeing more of the Water of Life sequence. Baron Harkonnen floating around in the wide shot rocks. Denis is leaning HARD into the reality of the prophecy here, it's no surprise at all that he wants to adapt Messiah.
EDIT: Also, that shot of the worm emerging behind Paul... man, the final battle is gonna own so hard.
Legend
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:o
Didn't really need to see t h a t much though.. oh well sorry Local
Dammit! >:(
Man, I can't wait to see this trailer on the big screen before Dial of Destiny this weekend. And then in its proper aspect ratio in IMAX before Oppenheimer next month. I've already watched it a good half a dozen times or so....
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 29, 2023, 05:30:14 PMMan, I can't wait to see this trailer on the big screen before Dial of Destiny this weekend.
That trailer may be the only good thing you see all weekend.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 29, 2023, 05:48:11 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 29, 2023, 05:30:14 PMMan, I can't wait to see this trailer on the big screen before Dial of Destiny this weekend.
That trailer may be the only good thing you see all weekend.
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:laugh:
Random speculation: Wonder if they maybe decided to not use/really show any worms at all during the final battle (mix of budget and execution reasons)
Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 29, 2023, 05:58:31 PM:laugh:
Random speculation: Wonder if they maybe decided to not use/really show any worms at all during the final battle (mix of budget and execution reasons)
The worm rising behind Paul makes me think quite the opposite – I think we're going to be seeing full on worm assault action.
EDIT: Watching the trailer again and one thing that really stands out to me is the shift in Chani's portrayal from this portion of the book. She's much less a zealot here (whereas they are very much doubling down on that angle with Stilgar, which is pretty pivotal to his arc). I think this is a change that's going to work in the movie's benefit as we explore the different contrasting outlooks on who/what "Muad'dib" actually is (especially as it potentially all feeds into whatever Denis has up his sleeve in a potential
Dune: Messiah adaptation to round out a trilogy).
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1674777678946385924
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 30, 2023, 02:06:12 PMit's like a f**king gut punch.
I see she is getting into her Monza Murcatto character.
Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 29, 2023, 04:17:58 PMFUKK I'm in the middle of NOWHERE >:(
Southern Palmaries?
QuoteA sich (Ukrainian: січ), [1] was an administrative and military centre of the Zaporozhian Cossacks. The word sich derives from the Ukrainian verb сікти siktý, "to chop" – with the implication of clearing a forest for an encampment or of building a fortification with the trees that have been chopped down.[2]
The Zaporozhian Sich was the fortified capital of the Zaporozhian Cossacks, located on the Dnieper, in the 16th–18th centuries in the area of what is now Ukraine. The Sich Rada was the highest organ of government in the Zaporozhian Host, or army of the Zaporozhian Cossacks. The Danubian Sich was the fortified settlement of those Zaporozhian Cossacks who later settled in the Danube Delta.
Always thought "sietch" was of Arabic origin like so many of their other words.
Also interesting to see Sergei Surovikan in the trailer.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1674859186553774091
I guess this is un-dead.
I wonder if the spider creature will be in Part 2.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 30, 2023, 08:04:26 PMI wonder if the spider creature will be in Part 2.
Unless otherwise explicitly stated to be untrue somewhere down the line, my gut tells me that that's Yueh's wife Wanna.
QuoteDenis Villeneuve's 'Dune' Trilogy Will Reportedly End With an Adaptation of 'Dune: Messiah'
https://collider.com/dune-3-messiah-adaptation/
Good, good. You can tell he's already lathering text from Messiah all over Part Two that's more so subtext in the original novel.
I've read Messiah ages ago and only remember that it was very ... different than the first book.
I've only read up to Children, myself. I didn't find Messiah to be all that different from the first one, though; it almost feels like a "10 years later" epilogue to Dune to me, so I do get Denis kind of envisioning these two books as one complete trilogy.
Children, on the other hand, feels like a full on sequel with a tone/style all its own. And from what I understand of the next three, those do as well. If Children and beyond ever get adapted, I don't think Denis would really be the right fit for them (nor do I think he has any interest beyond Messiah).
Quote from: Ingwar on Jun 30, 2023, 09:38:34 PMI've read Messiah ages ago and only remember that it was very ... different than the first book.
A depressing read.
I didn't have any affinity with the first film. Maybe I should start reading books. :)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 01, 2023, 09:00:00 AMQuote from: Ingwar on Jun 30, 2023, 09:38:34 PMI've read Messiah ages ago and only remember that it was very ... different than the first book.
A depressing read.
I wasn't depressed juts disappointed. It's not as good as the first one. It seems like it's written by someone else.
Quote from: Ingwar on Jul 01, 2023, 01:20:47 PMI wasn't depressed juts disappointed. It's not as good as the first one. It seems like it's written by someone else.
Yeah, it's a bit of downer after the ending of the first book. Don't know if it's a good idea to make a third film of the second book. Don't think general audiences are going to like the tone.
Spoiler
It's mostly just Paul philosophizing about his impending doom, since he can see it coming but unable to change his destiny. There's not much action either.
Yeah, I'd definitely prefer a potential third movie to be based on a more original screenplay from I dunno someone like Guzikowski? (I mean Denis worked with him before on Prisoners)
After rewatching the recent trailer a couple more times I tend to expect quite the action packed ride with way less calmer more atmospheric sequences (could be to lure in general audience I know). A bit like a FotR vs RotK type of scenario.
This kindaa leads me to the feeling I could end up liking the first one more than the second.
Yea just a gut feeling though well see.
I read Dune and Messiah a few times when I was younger and always loved them. I had a soft spot for the miniseries also. I read a lot of the following books, cant remember all of them, i know I read God Emperor. Anyway they are all very down hill after the first.
However I still havent seen Villeneuve's Dune yet. I really like his other films but the look of his Dune has just never grabbed me, even this second trailer doesnt spark much interest in me. I will make it a point to try and watch the first one though, deserves a shot.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1679654090941530112
I guess a lot of the cast is Equity, not SAG, and the Equity cast members will be the ones continuing to film from the sound of it.
I didn't even know production on this thing was starting up again any time soon. I thought the pilot rewrites were still being held up by the WGA strike, unless I missed a report that it had finished its hiatus rewrites some time before that strike kicked off.
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1679974290207444997
Between Corona and the strike: A path has been laid for DV's Dune ;)
https://twitter.com/MattDonnelly/status/1682190906374619136
Alternatively, maybe just pay everyone what they actually deserve and then you might get to have your full promotional tour by November...
Relevant:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 17, 2023, 01:13:25 AMPre-Zaslav, WB was probably the studio that I most trusted to consistently keep putting out massive tentpole films from really interesting directors and be relatively hands-off and allow the filmmakers to just do their thing.
Right now, I'm just hoping they don't find some way to botch the releases of Dune: Part Two and Furiosa.
I could've sworn Aquaman 2 already came out
Good thing they already put out two massive trailers lol
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1686748940887093248
Although I would've loved to see that scene, for the film as a whole it's probably better they decided to cut it out. Kinda would've taken the last bit of tension from the final fight to show one of Paul's teachers dominating their best fighter without even a weapon literally five minutes before it's about to take place.
Being somewhat familiar with the Dune books, I wonder if the "Sisterhood" will lean heavily on the Kevin J. Anderson materials. Pretty much everything he wrote for Star Wars Legends was pretty bad.
Based on the character names, The Sisterhood does seem in part to be drawing on one of those novels, but with quite a bit of invention/fabrication of its own. I wouldn't be shocked if it just kind of takes some names/ideas and runs with them in a totally new direction, honestly.
Though I am also incredibly wary about this project in general, after the massive shakeup while shooting the pilot...
https://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1687121561978114049
Anyone watch the 2000 and 2003 TV versions of the first 3 Dune books?
The 2000 miniseries is an admirable attempt, but very cheap looking with goofy costumes. Children is overall a lot better.
Why does Feyd look like an Engineer?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 04, 2023, 02:04:33 AMWhy does Feyd look like an Engineer?
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 04, 2023, 02:04:33 AMWhy does Feyd look like an Engineer?
Because the Engineers' look was, in part, inspired by Elvis...
...and Austin Butler played Elvis...
...and Austin Butler is playing Feyd.
Spoiler
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All I see is a bald albino that I want to kill. >:(
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 04, 2023, 02:37:25 AMAll I see is a bald albino that I want to kill. >:(
May thy knife chip and shatter.
https://twitter.com/UmbrellaEnt/status/1686979095035609088
Is that the John Hurt mini-series?
William Hurt, but yes.
Apologies, wrong Hurt. :laugh:
Not sure the source but...
https://twitter.com/SolaceCinema/status/1688995575423774720
I think it should be delayed honestly speaking.
Might give kwisatz time to read the book first.
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1691400150051164160
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https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1694741450771058767
Annnnnd it happened.
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1694833161757466642
Fine by me honestly.
Futurama did a Dune episode and it was kind of great. The best one in the new season so far.
Why did they push it? Movie is done.
WB is worried that they won't get the young crowd without Chalamet and Zendeya headlining the publicity. It's their own damn fault.
Quote from: kwisatz on Aug 24, 2023, 10:22:57 PMI blame @Local Trouble
I made some calls. I told them you're not ready to have your innocence taken away.
Dune: Part Two moving to March must also mean that we're really in this for the long haul, if the WB isn't seeing a resolution in time to start promoting the film for its November release. Warner Bros (and all the rest of the studios, too) has totally dug its feet in the dirt and is just refusing to budge or hear either Guild's demands in any capacity right now... :-\ f**k all of the big studios and their heads at this point, this is so vile and moving Dune: Part Two into next year like this is another shitty maneuver on their part to put all of the bargaining chips right where they want them in order to try to weaponize the strikes in their own advantage; I really hope move backfires on WB and the rest studios.
This is also twice over now that Denis Villeneuve is getting f**ked over by Warner Bros on a Dune release. Obviously the first one had to move because of COVID, but then after that WB ended up saddling it with the day and date HBO Max release. Chris Nolan already walked away from Warner Bros. I wonder if Denis could end up being next?
I just question how important all the actor promotions actually are to the box office. I mean, how many films have bombed this year alone that have had the promotions in place?
Just look at Oppenheimer. It did spectacular at the box office as R rated movie without proper promotion. Moving Dune to March is nonsense. What's the point?
Quote from: Ingwar on Aug 25, 2023, 01:50:05 AMJust look at Oppenheimer. It did spectacular at the box office as R rated movie without proper promotion. Moving Dune to March is nonsense. What's the point?
I wonder if Napoleon's release date is going to swift as well? Haven't seen any indications yet and it's now three months out from release.
Vanessa Kirby is British and Scott isn't busy with Gladiator so they at least would be able to participate in the press tour.
Also less competition at the box office for Napoleon with Dun
c II removed from the November slot.
Quote from: Ingwar on Aug 25, 2023, 01:50:05 AMJust look at Oppenheimer. It did spectacular at the box office as R rated movie without proper promotion. Moving Dune to March is nonsense. What's the point?
Oppenheimer had millions of dollars worth of free advertising with Barbenheimer trending for weeks.
Warner should just get Ridley in to market DUNC II. He can compare kwisatz to Hitler, insult "millenians", educate everyone about the varying blowholes and tell journalists to "go f*ck themselves".
Millions of dollars worth of almost free advertising.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 25, 2023, 02:44:05 PMHe can compare kwisatz to Hitler
In
Dune: Messiah Spoiler
Paul does literally compare himself to Hitler, though he recognizes that Hitler's number of killed victims is minuscule when compared to his own.
If Denis does get to make Messiah like he wants to, that kind of thing is going to be very explicit moving forward. A lot of the first book's subtext about the fallacy of hero worship is being pushed heavily into the forefront in the Dune: Part Two trailers, and all of that subtext is very much made text in Messiah.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 25, 2023, 11:48:28 AMQuote from: Ingwar on Aug 25, 2023, 01:50:05 AMJust look at Oppenheimer. It did spectacular at the box office as R rated movie without proper promotion. Moving Dune to March is nonsense. What's the point?
Oppenheimer had millions of dollars worth of free advertising with Barbenheimer trending for weeks.
Yeah, but it's second part of Dune, movie people are familiar with already. It's not unknown franchise.
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1695105010873295109
D U N ED U N E
I really like that subscriber cover.
I should be getting it next week. Will send you some screengrabs of the article.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Aug 25, 2023, 08:55:39 AMI wonder if Napoleon's release date is going to swift as well? Haven't seen any indications yet and it's now three months out from release.
Vanessa Kirby is British and Scott isn't busy with Gladiator so they at least would be able to participate in the press tour.
Also less competition at the box office for Napoleon with Dunc II removed from the November slot.
I predict they will stick with November and yes, less competition. I don't think there is any big movie being released in November so Napoleon should have an easier way to the victory.
Austin Butler's Feyd-Rautha In Dune: Part Two Is 'A Cross Between A Psychopath Killer, A Snake, And Mick Jagger' – Exclusive Image
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QuoteWhen Dune: Part Two arrives, there's plenty for Timothée Chalamet's Paul Atreides to be worried about. For one, he's going to have to prove himself among the Fremen people, and not mess things up with Zendaya's Chani – his literal dream-girl. He's expected to try and ride a giant marauding sandworm in the Arrakis desert at some point. And he'll have to avoid becoming some kind of messianic dictator too, as war looms with the Harkonnens. As if that wasn't enough, this time he also has an assassin after him – enter Feyd-Rautha, the ferocious and unpredictable force that was, famously, rendered in 'Sting in a space-nappy' form in David Lynch's adaptation.
Not here, though. In the second half of Denis Villeneuve's Frank Herbert adaptation, the fearsome Feyd-Rautha is played by none other than Austin Butler – shorn of all his hair, and firmly out of Elvis mode. It sounds like Paul will have his work cut out for him. "Austin brought something that is a cross between a psychopath killer, an Olympic sword master, a snake, and Mick Jagger," Villeneuve tells Empire in our world-exclusive Dune: Part Two cover story, promising a wild performance from the Oscar-nominated star. "He has tremendous sex appeal and charisma and madness. It's really out there."
The bald-headed Butler isn't the only fresh face for Part Two – also joining the cast this time are Florence Pugh as Princess Irulan, and Christopher Walken as the mysterious Emperor Shaddam IV. But perhaps most intriguingly, Léa Seydoux is on board as Bene Gesserit sister Lady Fenring – a character with a minimal presence in Herbert's book, but for whom Villeneuve has bigger plans. "I don't want to talk too much about Lady Fenring," he teases. "She's part of the spider web of the Bene Gesserit, but I want to keep the mystery around her." Either way, the secretive sisterhood is a key part of the director's fascination with Herbert's world. "My version of Dune is different because the thing that really seduced me about the book was the Bene Gesserit," he says. "My adaptation is more oriented toward their impact – they are the puppet masters of the universe!" You'd hate to be caught in their strings – especially with Feyd-Rautha gunning for you.
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/austin-butler-feyd-rautha-dune-part-two-killer-snake-mick-jagger-exclusive-image/
Denis Villeneuve Teases Possible Dune: Part Three Based On Dune Messiah: 'There Are Words On Paper' – Exclusive
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QuoteFrom the beginning, Denis Villeneuve's plan for Dune was to adapt Frank Herbert's original tome as an epic two-part movie experience. And thankfully, given the success of Dune back in 2021, he got the green light to complete his adaptation with this year's Dune: Part Two. So far, so good. But as Dune completists know, the story doesn't end there. Herbert continued the story of Arrakis in a series of subsequent novels, before his son Brian took over to continue it even further – and if Part Two performs well too, Villeneuve might not be done with the sand (or the sandworms) quite yet.
Rumours have swirled that Villeneuve could be eyeing up more Dune for the big screen – and, as he tells Empire in our world-exclusive Dune: Part Two cover story, that is indeed the case. "If I succeed in making a trilogy, that would be the dream," he says. Part Three, then, would consist of Dune Messiah, Herbert's direct follow-up to Dune. "Dune Messiah was written in reaction to the fact that people perceived Paul Atreides as a hero," Villeneuve explains. "Which is not what he wanted to do. My adaptation [of Dune] is closer to his idea that it's actually a warning." If it does happen, the Messiah-spanning Dune: Part Three would mark the end of Villeneuve's time on Arrakis. "After that the books become more... esoteric," he says.
And while any future Dune sequels once again hinge on the box office results of Part Two, Villeneuve's plans for Part Three aren't just nebulous thoughts. "I will say, there are words on paper," he teases. Fingers crossed, there will eventually be images on a screen too.
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/denis-villeneuve-teases-dune-part-three-dune-messiah-exclusive/
Oh God yes please, 2026?
Dune: Part Two Will Have Gurney Halleck Playing The Baliset: 'It Became A Weird Priority For Me,' Says Denis Villeneuve – Exclusive
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QuoteFor the most part, Denis Villeneuve's take on Dune was everything fans of Frank Herbert's epic tome could ask for. Even though it only covered half of the original novel, he did justice to the fall of House Atreides, nailed the awe-inspiring heft of the sandworms, carefully lined up the cascading dominoes that fuel the swirling political plot – and even made it so that Spice was visibly glimmering in the air on Arrakis. But there was one detail from the novel that didn't make it to the screen first time around – and if fans were sad to miss it, Villeneuve was even sadder.
That detail was, of course, the Baliset – the unusual musical instrument that's a particular favourite of Josh Brolin's warrior Gurney Halleck. While Villeneuve (and Hans Zimmer) gave us unexpected space bagpipes last time around, a scene shot for Dune in which Brolin's Halleck mournfully plucked at the Baliset's strings sadly ended up on the cutting room floor. But no more – speaking to Empire in our world-exclusive Dune: Part Two cover feature, the director confirms the Baliset is back, back, back in the follow-up. "The Gurney song survived Part Two!" he declares victoriously, the notion of bringing it to the screen clearly having played on his mind. "It became a weird priority for me. But Josh Brolin is a poet and we played it together. It was awesome."
Just, don't go expecting the Arrakis equivalent of the Eras Tour. Though there is one set of characters rather more attuned to the hedonistic life: those dastardly Harkonnens. "If there's a party somewhere that you want to attend, it's on [Harkonnen homeworld] Giedi Prime," Villeneuve laughs. "These guys know how to throw a party, but they are not meant to be on Arrakis. They hate the planet, they hate the people, they're just there for the money. That's where their weakness is." Sign us up for Gurney Halleck smashing Baron Harkonnen in the face with his Baliset, then. (That's official Dune canon, right?)
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/dune-part-two-gurney-halleck-baliset-exclusive/
Those space bagpipes are actually very Lynchian.
https://twitter.com/io9/status/1696671083469131836
https://twitter.com/maxevry/status/1696857331953246447
Spoilery, official
Part Two concept art:
Spoiler
https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1697257152463925700
https://twitter.com/JohnnySobczak/status/1697626474931515564
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8)
Dune Messiah will be a major downer plot-wise, but I would love to see it!
David Lynch's Original Dune Ending Would Have Been a Lot Weirder (and Better)
Before last-minute cuts to the special effects budget on David Lynch's Dune, the ending of the film was a lot more Lynchian.
QuoteIn Frank Herbert's original Dune novel, the character Duke Leto Atreides is set up to fail. Awarded the mining rights to the arid planet Arrakis by a powerful emperor, and given a limited number of days to exploit them, Leto is sent to the desert essentially to die. And in the end, he should've known forces beyond his control were conspiring against him from the start.
One wonders whether back in 1984 if David Lynch felt he could relate. An already impressive directorial talent behind intriguing films like Eraserhead (1977) and The Elephant Man (1980), Lynch was a 34-year-old wunderkind when he was tapped by producer Dino De Laurentiis to direct, and eventually rewrite, Dune as a sci-fi epic intended to rival Star Wars. Yet through the vicissitudes of fate—as well as budget, location photography, and post-production studio mandates—the film that reached cinema screens was a fraction of his sprawling vision. It was also summarily dismissed by the critics of its day, with Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert placing it among their "Stinkers of 1984." Eventually, even Lynch took his name off an extended version (he had no editing oversight) when it was recut for television years later.
Nonetheless, the film's legacy has endured for a small, dedicated, and growing subsection of cineastes and sci-fi enthusiasts. These fans see the larger esoteric vision of Lynch's singular interpretation of Herbert's novel; they appreciate the weird flourishes that no other filmmaker would dare with a mainstream property; and they recognize a masterpiece in disarray.
Film journalist and author Max Evry believes that last bit so strongly, he made it the title of his book about Lynch's space opera, A Masterpiece in Disarray: David Lynch's Dune – An Oral History (for which, full disclosure, this writer participated in). Providing a panoramic view of the forces that transpired to make and unmake the film, the author likens his text to being both "an autopsy and a reclamation." And ahead of the oral history's release this week, Evry invited Den of Geek to glimpse one of the most curious elements that mutated during Dune's production: its ending.
In the finished film, Dune does not so much end as it runs out of footage. The way it plays out is Kyle MacLachlan's boyish hero Paul Atreides, now with glowing cerulean eyes, defeats the film's villains, José Ferrer as Padishah Emperor Shaddam IV and the pop musician Sting as a spiky-haired youth in revolt. Paul is then crowned emperor of the universe while declaring he speaks with the voice of God. As he states, "One cannot go against the Word of God," the skies open and for the first time in Arrakis' history, rains fall from the heavens in such a deluge that the film's closing credits are set against footage of a sea's rolling waves—suggesting Paul's will turned Arrakis into a paradise. Paul's little sister Alia Atreides (Alicia Witt) even gilds the lily with the final line of the movie: "And how can this be? For he is the Kwisatz Haderach!"
Dune ends on the literal declaration that Paul is a messiah who will bring peace and prosperity to Arrakis and the universe, and cuts to black before the characters (or the audience) have time to really process what just occurred. To call it a departure from Herbert's novel is an understatement. On the page, Paul's messianic complex is something to be feared, particularly in later installments of the literary series. He also cannot make it rain on command. However, as Evry reveals in both his book and in a new video he's assembled from early discarded storyboards on the production, it wasn't the ending Lynch wanted either...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcAQJsFK4yMQuoteAs you can see in Evry's above storyboard footage, Lynch's earlier vision for Dune was something altogether more metaphysical. He even storyboarded what might be best described as a spiritual awakening or epiphany, with the camera flying into Paul's eye (which we see briefly in the finished film), only to enter his mind's eye, which is a cacophony of surrealist imagery. The evolved (and deformed) Space Guild navigators we met at the beginning of the film, and which implicitly seem to control the galaxy (as it is they who control the emperor), are reduced to angelic maggots pouring from Paul's eyes; the faces of revelation appear to him in the countenances of Alia and his mother Lady Jessica (Francesca Annis) as they in turn are submerged into the water of his dreams; and finally at the end of it all, a glowing gold lotus flower promises serenity.
Evry suggests this ending is truer to Lynch's artistic impulses, contrasting it directly to Twin Peaks, as well as a clearer example of what the auteur wanted to do with Herbert's novel.
"Just looking at the boards, it's very clear that this is a transcendental [revelation]," Evry says. "This is Paul transcending himself and all these disparate elements, like Jessica and Alia, and the navigators, and all this stuff coming together to turn him into what he is at the end of the film."
Evry also notes the golden lotus flower, an important image in Herbert's second novel in the series, Dune Messiah, was crucial to Lynch's vision for the ending of the film. "In all the drafts of the scripts that I read, only a little bit [of the ending] goes in Lynch's scripts," Evry explains, "a little bit about the light going off into infinity and the golden lotus at the end. Almost every draft ended with the golden lotus, even to the point where it felt almost shoehorned into the last draft. When he had to make it rain, he makes it rain, and then you see a golden lotus. It's like Lynch was really trying to get this golden lotus into the movie. It was important to him."
And yet, the golden lotus is not in the version we all know.
Over the years, including in a new interview in A Masterpiece in Disarray, Lynch has distanced himself not just from the film's post-production, but the whole process of making Dune. He repeatedly has suggested the approach was compromised from the start. However, as the storyboards prove, he at least had grander ideas than what ended up on the screen. The reasons that finale, like so much else, was cut comes down to the movie running over-budget and its most hands-on producer, Rafaella De Laurentiis, parting ways with Apogee Inc., the special effects house headed by John Dykstra of Star Wars (1977) and Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) fame.
Apogee had set up operation on Dune at the movie's production location in Churubusco, Mexico, where for three months the company constructed models, massive blue screens, and created numerous storyboards to Lynch's specifications. Yet at the eleventh hour, the De Laurentiis family decided to terminate Apogee's contract. Rafaela later told Starlog (via Masterpiece in Disarray), "It didn't work out because of the way [Dykstra's] operation works. I had no control over costs. I can't work unless I know where I'm putting my money... to know that if you spend those $10 on this, you'll get an effect on the screen worth $20."
The storyboards Evry assembled in this video—placing them in an order based on their numbering and the author's own intuition—come from a book of Apogee effects storyboards that were auctioned off in 2021 and later placed on Amazon for wider distribution. While he cannot be certain, Evry believes most of them were sketched by Mentor Huebner, the famed storyboard artist whose work includes Blade Runner (1982) and The Thing (1982).
"Cutting the video, you can see it," Evry says. "It almost looks like an animatic, the way he skillfully illustrated everything."
While Huebner stayed on the production separate from Apogee, the loss of Dykstra's special effects company signaled the beginning of Dune's post-production woes. While a talented visual effects artist named Barry Nolan and his Van der Veer Photo Effects company was hired to replace Apogee, the guiding star on the film became doing everything as cheaply as possible.
Looking back at those decisions nearly 40 years later, Evry says, "I think it was just the fact that they ate up a lot of the time and budget that they had working with Apogee and also making the rest of the film. Like the movie did go over-budget, and I think that cut into what they wanted to do with the effects, which is really shortsighted because, in a lot of ways, the movie sank or swam based on the effects."
This led to the far more basic and straightforward ending which occurs in the film, although even that appears unfinished. When Paul summons the floods, for instance, you'll notice his mouth opens but no words or sound come out. That's because the scene was scripted for there to be a great wind emerging from his throat (hence why the other characters' hats and gowns begin blowing). Says Evry, "I guess they just ran out of money."
Similarly, the entire third act climax was economized, with storyboards of the giant sandworms throwing their whole bodies against the shield wall and the emperor's golden-tented ship getting excised. The film's humbled ambitions can likewise be noticed in the scene where Duke Leto Atreides (Jürgen Prochnow) and Gurney Halleck (Patrick Stewart) speak of warning "the spotters" when watching an immense sandworm... but there are no spotters on the screen.
It's worth recognizing, however, that none of these last-minute compromises affected what might be the ending's most glaring issue for fans of Herbert's novels: how it turned Paul into a true prophesied messiah instead of a young man who takes advantage of a religion to glorify himself. Herbert famously stated he wrote Dune, in part, to make readers wary of charismatic leaders (Herbert was a Republican speechwriter in the 1950s who had an intense dislike of John F. Kennedy). But the ending of Lynch's film turns Paul into Space Jesus. According to Evry, this wasn't always Lynch's plan, but commercial considerations were made early on to lean into the boy hero iconography.
"I think [Lynch] flirted with it," Evry says. "Certainly drafts of this script have almost the opposite of the ending we got. They have like an ocean of blood to signify the jihad that Paul has sparked. But then the ending slowly gets more and more spiritual, focusing less on the terrible thing that Paul has done." He ultimately concludes, "When you're trying to make a two, two-hour-and-change movie, the simplest way to go would be just to make him a real messiah."
Still, Evry does not think the film's departures from the novel, or even Lynch's own distancing from it, should determine its legacy.
"There are so many Lynch fans out there who just dismiss it or see it as a footnote in Lynch's career," Evry says, "simply because he himself dismisses it. I mean, he has his own reasons to dismiss it, but he put his name on it; he spent three years making it; it is actually his highest-grossing movie still to this day. It deserves to be reckoned with as part of his canon."
The author even compares it to Ridley Scott's Blade Runner, except that Scott had the opportunity to reclaim his sci-fi cult classic after it failed at the box office by tinkering with it via his director's cut and eventual "final cut."
"[Dune] could have been a real landmark movie," Evry says, "and it was thwarted at every turn during production, post-production, and then even after the movie was released. Universal had the chance to work with David and Rafaella, and make a true director's cut, and they just didn't want to pay David any money. And that's a lot of work. So I think they ultimately shot themselves in the foot, because when you look at what happened with Ridley Scott's Blade Runner, it was just as sort of hated and just as much a failure when it came out... If they afforded David the same luxury, we'd be having a different conversation right now. It would be just a masterpiece."
Masterpiece in Disarray: David Lynch's Dune – An Oral History is on sale on Tuesday, Sept. 19.
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/david-lynch-original-dune-ending-a-lot-weirder-and-better/
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1709624999038906490
https://twitter.com/LEGO_Group/status/1716806451509755915
Cannot get enough of Lego Baron Harkonnen.
https://twitter.com/DuneNewsNet/status/1720129860721348723
Willie hears ya. Willie don't care.
If someone would like to create a new thread for this:
https://twitter.com/worldofreel/status/1722685997396238839
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 10, 2023, 03:26:12 PMIf someone would like to create a new thread for this:
https://twitter.com/worldofreel/status/1722685997396238839
Don't mind if I do! (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=66853.0)
I know
Cleopatra is something he's been talking about wanting to do for ages (for a little while it seems like there was a chance that both his and Patty Jenkins' dueling takes might both be made), but I do wonder as well where this leaves
Rendezvous With Rama?
I do remember Denis saying that if he does get to make
Dune: Messiah, it would not be his very next film right after
Dune: Part Two, so no surprise that that isn't seemingly his next film, but I had assumed that
Cleopatra was dead at this point and
Rendezvous was up next.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 10, 2023, 04:21:06 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 10, 2023, 03:26:12 PMIf someone would like to create a new thread for this:
https://twitter.com/worldofreel/status/1722685997396238839
Don't mind if I do! (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=66853.0)
I know Cleopatra is something he's been talking about wanting to do for ages (for a little while it seems like there was a chance that both his and Patty Jenkins' dueling takes might both be made), but I do wonder as well where this leaves Rendezvous With Rama?
Thanks, I wasn't sure if there was already an existing thread buried somewhere.
Zendaya and Craig as Julius Caesar sound like great choices.
A quick combing through the search feature yielded two different results for threads about the Patty Jenkins version, and zero about Denis'.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1725592219539907008
https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1726279818248114199
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1728836124779680039
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1729968918523953356
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1731370462083432797
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1731370086101819841
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1731429054841016806
what the
Someone find them and f*** them up
Quote from: kwisatz on Dec 04, 2023, 04:06:10 AMwhat the
Someone find them and f*** them up
Just give me the IP addresses of those f**kers I'll take care of it
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Does anyone know why?
Dicks gonna dick.
https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1731416301237670157
Perfect.
This is gonna spoil me big time though...
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1731701823705137376
Here are some more posters:
(https://s8d7.turboimg.net/sp/65cdfb66ec46b1a7979c51975ce55cff/dunp5.jpg)
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Loving Shaddamn IV's look.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1733107383755325590
I hope he includes Paul's speech where he calls Genghis Khan and Hitler amateurs. :laugh:
"a last time"?
Do not upset the worm!
Denis wouldn't really be a proper fit for anything beyond Messiah, honestly. So it doesn't shock me that he sees that as his point of departure.
Got to get Lynch back for Letoworm.
Children of Dune is basically a really weird superhero origin. :laugh:
Maybe Damien Chazelle would fit Heretics/Chapterhouse. Or I'm just going off the batshit insanity of Babylon.
https://twitter.com/JohnnySobczak/status/1733174118030143616
Maybe Mike Flanagan for God-Emperor? There are certainly enough monologues in it.
Robert Eggers for basically anything plss
I recently finished The Children Of Dune but had a hard time getting through it. Is God Emperor any better?
Compared to Children (not to mention the original) it's even weirder and more hermetic.
I know only a few who actually enjoyed it. But as a Dune fan you obviously have no choice anyway ;D
i found Children to be the most "hermetic". God Emperor is weirder but i found it to be a much more straightforward narrative with more engaging lead characters.
Chapterhouse is my 3rd fave book in the series, so hang in there. Well worth going through them all.
Quote from: kwisatz on Dec 09, 2023, 10:40:51 AMCompared to Children (not to mention the original) it's even weirder and more hermetic.
Those dust covers must be unusually detailed.
I am doubtful anything will get made past Messiah but I hope the universe surprises me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Qp5pL3ovAHoly shit, that's an insanely good trailer. Word of warning though: it shows a LOT.
Ja, I'll try..
It full on shows....
Spoiler
Paul and his forces riding into battle on Sandworms.
And it looks GREAT.
:o
Local... LOCAL!
Quote from: kwisatz on Dec 12, 2023, 05:42:06 PMLocal... LOCAL!
Don't watch it! Cover your eyes! >:(
Watched it again.
Man.My ONE question/concern/quibble though...
Spoiler
Where is Alia???
EDIT: God...
Spoiler
https://twitter.com/AndrewHodgson3D/status/1734670866347413702
They said this was going to be a war movie.
Shai-Hulud help me, I'm watching the trailer again.
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/231213/qn93u83m.gif)
If only kwisatz knew what that gif was showing us. :laugh:
THE RIGHTEOUS!
https://twitter.com/gavinincinema/status/1734246826998628582 (https://twitter.com/gavinincinema/status/1734246826998628582)
Shows a bit of the raid on Geidi Prime as well, which is only briefly mentioned in the book.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 12, 2023, 05:06:11 PMHoly shit
Spoiler
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/231213/kjjfwf8w.gif)
Emperor Shaddam hid the spice in the only place he could, in his ass.
Quote from: via io9"It's so weird, because [the studios] are so secretive about the script, and about the trailer... well, [the books] have been out there for 70 years!"
https://twitter.com/io9/status/1736892994912194897
I will say, this latest trailer definitely wasn't super secretive. :laugh:
Spoiler
Except when it comes to Alia! >:(
Spoilers are a thing because kwisatz. >:(
Jawohl.
Went and saw
The Boy and the Heron today.
Spoiler
:(
Spoiler
(https://s20.directupload.net/images/240108/excpx6j4.jpg)
Quote from: kwisatz on Jan 08, 2024, 07:40:55 PMWent and saw The Boy and the Heron today.
Very good movie! I really need to go back and actually watch more Miyazaki, 'cause prior to this, I had only seen
Spirited Away and that was over a decade ago.
Ja, was great indeed. I'm quite confident it'll make Top 5 Miyazaki for me in the end.
Wait you just said you never saw
Mononoke..
Nausicaä?? Pretty sure they're riiiight* up your alley.
*
Spoiler
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Nausicaä especially has my interest (I've even heard some compare it to Dune? ;) ), but at this rate I want to just go back and watch everything.
Nausicaä's not the worst start though. Both Nausicaä and Mononoke are way less metaphorical and more action/fantasy.
Same for for the superb Castle in the Sky. These films feel more like OT Star Wars plus Miyazaki magic.
Life's actually meaningless without Miyazaki's films.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 08, 2024, 08:31:38 PMNausicaä especially has my interest (I've even heard some compare it to Dune? ;) ), but at this rate I want to just go back and watch everything.
It's worth looking at the whole Ghibli catalogue as well as Miyazaki's stuff.
https://twitter.com/maxevry/status/1745093239454019875
Still wondering how (if?) they will do the time jump.
Maybe Denis will retain older Alia for Messiah?
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1747667236415037947
One night only, and not even happening in my state despite having a good IMAX literally 10 minutes from where I live. What a waste.
You've seen it already. Don't complain ;D
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 17, 2024, 06:45:37 PMYou've seen it already. Don't complain ;D
Not in IMAX, though! Which means I haven't seen it in its proper aspect ratio!
I only saw it on a standard screen (it was still early days of me returning back to theaters in 2021, after getting vaxxed, and I was a bit reluctant to do the crowded IMAX screen at the time), and the IMAX aspect ratio for the shots filmed with those cameras was not preserved for the home release. :'(
Part Two is filmed 100% in that format, so I'm definitely not going to miss the IMAX showings this time around. But I was really hoping for a proper IMAX re-release of the first one before then as well.
I'm finally getting off my ass and trying to make a concerted effort to finish reading the book before part 2 comes out. Currently about 55% of the way through the book, according to my kindle.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jan 19, 2024, 01:21:41 AMI'm finally getting off my ass and trying to make a concerted effort to finish reading the book before part 2 comes out. Currently about 55% of the way through the book, according to my kindle.
Just don't spoil it for kwisatz! >:(
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 19, 2024, 01:38:00 AMQuote from: Xenomrph on Jan 19, 2024, 01:21:41 AMI'm finally getting off my ass and trying to make a concerted effort to finish reading the book before part 2 comes out. Currently about 55% of the way through the book, according to my kindle.
Just don't spoil it for kwisatz! >:(
Forever unspoiled!
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https://twitter.com/wbpictures/status/1749117244511277555
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1749495002097705154
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1750186978962743780
Bad poster!
Tickets are on sale now. Just booked mine for opening night IMAX.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 24, 2024, 06:23:13 PMBad poster!
I'm so excited for the movie, but agree, that is one uncreative poster.
It's almost like: how many heads can we squeeze into one poster? :)
I strongly suspect it's a Seppo thing:
Spoiler
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Mountrushmore.jpg) ;D
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1751083578665128119
Chani is kind of ridiculously important to the events of Messiah, so good.
Me siento muy exited por la peli 8) can't wait
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 28, 2024, 04:18:34 PMChani is kind of ridiculously important to the events of Messiah, so good.
She is featured there a bit less though, if I'm remembering correctly?
https://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/1751939564686426186
Show me Alia, Denis.
(https://i.ibb.co/r7zhgB7/Picsart-24-01-30-13-54-12-276.jpg)
https://twitter.com/GamesRadar/status/1751999452590571520
Denis Villeneuve Refuses to Let Hollywood Shrink Him Down to Sizehttps://time.com/6589871/denis-villeneuve-dune-part-two-interview/
Spoilery tidbit from the article:
Spoiler
Quotean embryo who advises her mother from the womb.
I think those might be the nine words a
Dune fan most wants to hear.
https://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/1753035747769094273
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1753115649881346415
Damn, I want to go but I don't think my IMAX is getting it... :'(
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1753259718057808224
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https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/1753830291062317454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfuGmXb_ACshttps://twitter.com/Fandango/status/1755290478617006391
Who bought tickets already?
Assuming that what I just saw on Twitter is true, I may have just had something pretty significant from Part Two spoiled that sounds great, but also is something I REALLY wish I didn't potentially know going in (and I say this as someone that intimately knows the book).
I think it's time for me to start muting "Dune" and all related terms on social media.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 08, 2024, 05:00:54 PMI think it's time for me to start muting "Dune" and all related terms on social media.
You wish!
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 09, 2024, 02:22:18 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 08, 2024, 05:00:54 PMI think it's time for me to start muting "Dune" and all related terms on social media.
You wish!
After what I saw today, I'm not taking any more chances. My muted terms list on Twitter has been set. And will remain like so until February 29th when I see the movie.
In the meantime, I finished building the Lego Ornithopter set today and this thing is insane. Great building experience and a really cool (and massive) display piece with tons of functionality.
But it
is something from the (first) book?
Spoiler
something something Jihad?
If not don't spoil me ;)
Nope, not that.
Without getting into any details at all (but I'll still tag just to be
extra safe), all I'll say is that...
Spoiler
...It is something that feels like it'd be more so setup for Messiah, if it is true. The only way I could imagine it making sense in Part Two is as either an epilogue to the film set some time later, or in someone's vision of the future.
You don't need to answer. Maybe just don't ;)
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A Fremen seeing/reaching an ocean/beach? Maybe even Chani or Stilgar?
Although now I think of it, wasn't there even a split second in one of the trailers..
I will say no more on this subject until March 1st.
Dang now I kinda feel like I'm onto something ;D
which I would absolutely love cause I can't think of a more beautiful/ambivalent/bittersweet ending to the first book. It would also actually warrant some form of time jump imo.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 03:43:05 AMI will say no more on this subject until March 1st.
Did you like it or not? :)
I did very much like the thing I read, yes.
Speaking of the press tour, Zendaya is wearing a David Lynch Dune shirt in some of her interviews, which is pretty rad.
But is Lynch going to watch it? ;D
Absolutely not.
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1757095808237699236
https://twitter.com/warnerbrosfr/status/1757071197861200092
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1757470985115287733
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 13, 2024, 07:25:52 PMhttps://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1757470985115287733
Just got handed this as a Valentine's gift. Can't wait to dig in.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 02:39:18 AMIn the meantime, I finished building the Lego Ornithopter set today and this thing is insane. Great building experience and a really cool (and massive) display piece with tons of functionality.
https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1757897046638698588
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 14, 2024, 10:49:53 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 02:39:18 AMIn the meantime, I finished building the Lego Ornithopter set today and this thing is insane. Great building experience and a really cool (and massive) display piece with tons of functionality.
https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1757897046638698588
It is such a cool build, display piece, and toy. Love the functionality of it.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 14, 2024, 10:49:53 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 02:39:18 AMIn the meantime, I finished building the Lego Ornithopter set today and this thing is insane. Great building experience and a really cool (and massive) display piece with tons of functionality.
https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1757897046638698588
They need a lego sandworm.
Welp, looks like the thing I saw last week that I wish I hadn't was now broken by the major trades. If you want to know, it's out there. If you don't, I'd suggest muting relevant key words on any social media accounts you use.
In this respect I fully rely on
@Local Trouble.
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1758200634031894957
Maybe put that in a Spoiler, Jonesy. Cause with another bit of information in this thread this becomes quite clear.
It kinda is for me now, I think ;D
Ups! Sorry ;D :)
I don't really mind.
This gonna upset Local though :(
But I like to upset him :'(
Anya taylor Joy has this aura around her whenever I see her in pictures or in a film. Only few stars have this and it is good, it's special, not part of the thousands of other actresses out there.
In the end - as always - I've spoiled myself.
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Now I feel bad :'(
Don't! ;D
TY!
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https://twitter.com/EW/status/1758333654030262568
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 16, 2024, 08:04:31 PMhttps://twitter.com/EW/status/1758333654030262568
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Cool outfit, props to her for wearing it. But it does remind me of the Torchwood Cyberwoman....
So jealous of anyone getting to go to the special IMAX fan screening event tonight while I have to wait for Thursday for the regular IMAX opening night because I missed my chance at getting tickets for tonight's advanced one. >:(
:)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 25, 2024, 08:40:06 PM:)
Dune skull jumpscare:
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:)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 25, 2024, 08:40:06 PM:)
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 25, 2024, 08:50:48 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Feb 25, 2024, 08:40:06 PM:)
Dune skull jumpscare:
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:)
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My work schedule shifted around so I now have an IMAX ticket for Thursday afternoon.
Saw the film tonight in IMAX 70mm and I'm still reeling from the initial viewing. It's such an immersive and overwhelming experience. This is just phenomenal storytelling and Denis Villeneuve sets the bar pretty damned high for this kind of blockbuster filmmaking. If I had one complaint it would be that Christopher Walken may have been miscast as the Emperor. He looks a little lost throughout his very short screen time and sticks out like a sore thumb.
https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1762030049165807989
Did Denis also meet David? ;D
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 26, 2024, 01:24:19 PMDid Denis also meet David? ;D
No, but this did happen when
Dune came out in 2021:
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https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1762156835274961197
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1763327917386522689
There must be a way to prevent kwisatz from seeing it and spoiling himself. >:(
Part Two is really, really good.
Any box office predictions for Part 2?
Oh man, I can't stop thinking about this. Saw it last night and just woke up with it the only thing on my mind.
Gonna have a LOT to discuss about it in the coming days.
Even with some minor (and some significant) changes to the source material, this is about as perfect an adaptation of the so-called unfilmable novel as I ever could have hoped for. There's some stuff at the end that really throws me for a loop, knowing that Denis is so intent on adapting Messiah, but... that's a bridge I'll cross when the time comes. For now, I am just so happy and thankful that we have this two part adaptation of Herbert's masterpiece.
Will be seeing this again in the theater with absolute certainty.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1763391642734907537
So where was Tim Blake Nelson? On the cutting room floor?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 01, 2024, 03:27:43 PMSo where was Tim Blake Nelson? On the cutting room floor?
I was wondering the same thing. At the time he was announced to be in the movie, I assumed he would be Count Fenring. And since we didn't see that character, perhaps that was the case?
Im wondering about Dune: Messiah (which now looks like a sure thing), will they be toning down some of the tragic events from that?
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 01, 2024, 03:38:24 PMIm wondering about Dune: Messiah (which now looks like a sure thing), will they be toning down some of the tragic events from that?
I doubt it, honestly.
Part Two ending spoilers:
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Part Two literally ends with Paul enacting his Holy War and the Fremen following him off into the horrors that he is about to unleash into the universe, so I can't really see them shying away from all of the tragedy that comes from that into Paul's life.
My big question, regarding Messiah, given how much Denis really wants to make that, involves Chani in Part Two's third act. I genuinely love what this movie did with her, but I also have to wonder what it means for her role in Messiah, since she's in a very different place now than she was at this stage in the book as she rides off into the desert, away from Paul and what he is enacting.
Unrelated to the above, but oh man, I ADORED the expansion on the brutalist Harkonnen aesthetic in this one. They feel like they could have been plucked from a 40K sourcebook, and what we saw of them in the first film was really just the tip of the iceberg.
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The way their troops were moving through the desert at the start of the film was so sick, and I loved the tech they were interfaced with (and the weird chant they had going) as they were monitoring spice production. But the cream of the crop is the expanded look at Giedi Prime. Where the first film only showed us the Harkonnen homeworld under extreme cloud coverage, we got to see sequences here with the planet's BLACK SUN (!!!!!) causing everything to appear in black and white/ultraviolet monochrome, but only where the sun was actually hitting, so that created some really interesting clashes of color and b&w. Those fireworks, man.
Also loved everything on Giedi Prime with Lady Fenring and her pursuit of Feyd-Rautha.
More spoilers, pivoting to another topic:
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Alia is one of my favorite characters in Dune and its followups, and while I would love loved to have seen flesh and blood, two year old Alia imbued with the consciousnesses of all of the Reverend Mothers before her in this, I do get compressing the timeline and holding back on her for the sake of the adaptation to screen. I'm glad it wasn't done just to keep "weird shit" off screen and that what we did get of her - as a womb literally talking to/guiding/advising Lady Jessica - was weird as hell in its own way. Cool, weird stuff, and I dug it even though it's a pretty significant difference. Quite liked Anya-Taylor Joy's brief portrayal of her in Paul's vision, too. I wonder how she's going to be used in Messiah, given that she and Chalamet are roughly the same age in real life. Maybe once born, movie-Alia's aging process will happen at an expedited rate until she reaches a physically mature age, to keep up with her advanced mind? That might make tackling some of the Hayt stuff a bit easier, too...
@kwisatz 😜👉👈
https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1763604889043915257
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 01, 2024, 02:04:00 AMThere must be a way to prevent kwisatz from seeing it and spoiling himself. >:(
I see possible futures all at once, and in so many futures, our enemies prevail.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 01, 2024, 04:50:52 PM@kwisatz 😜👉👈
https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1763604889043915257
I still can't help but wonder how that (excellent) final shot is going to work with
Messiah, though!
About Alia...
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I know Denis isn't interested in adapting Children, but having Paul kill the Baron instead removes some of the resonance of the possession plot if somebody else were to try.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 01, 2024, 03:30:38 PMQuote from: KiramidHead on Mar 01, 2024, 03:27:43 PMSo where was Tim Blake Nelson? On the cutting room floor?
I was wondering the same thing. At the time he was announced to be in the movie, I assumed he would be Count Fenring. And since we didn't see that character, perhaps that was the case?
I've seen speculation he could be an early appearance of Edric, and the Guild as a whole is suspiciously absent from Part 2 as well.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 01, 2024, 05:28:54 PMAbout Alia...
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I know Denis isn't interested in adapting Children, but having Paul kill the Baron instead removes some of the resonance of the possession plot if somebody else were to try.
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These elements here are why I wondered if perhaps Jessica (still carrying Alia, and acting with Alia's influence) might get the killing blow on the Baron. But alas, this was not the case. Was incredibly shocked that it ended up being Paul.
Man, that was a fantastic movie experience. I really hope Villeneuve gets to make Dune: Messiah to complete his epic Paul Atreides arc.
This was so powerful. I so hope this does well that we get to see Messiah. Of course this wasn't perfect, but the overwhelming number of good things were so great that I'm still in shock. I have so much to say about what I loved, but it all feels like meaningless words compared to the experience of watching this on IMAX. I want to rewatch it immediately and watch the other books be adapted.
Hearing about stuff about Dune and the later novels and reading bits and pieces, it kinda feels silly to me IMO. But when it's done so seriously and grounded and beautifully? I'm in love, what can I say.
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 01, 2024, 03:38:24 PMIm wondering about Dune: Messiah (which now looks like a sure thing), will they be toning down some of the tragic events from that?
Didn't Denis say he will end with Messiah? I think that's a good move. As the books later in the Dune series get rather...weird, too weird in my opinion to warrant movie adaptations. One of Paul's kids turn himself into a sandworm and then later on we get an invading army of female warriors who use orgasm to sexually control men in worlds they occupy (I'm not kidding, that's actually in the later books). That's just too weird to my taste and probably isn't very good movie adaptation material.
Quote from: Cougerboy on Mar 02, 2024, 12:48:34 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Mar 01, 2024, 03:38:24 PMIm wondering about Dune: Messiah (which now looks like a sure thing), will they be toning down some of the tragic events from that?
Didn't Denis say he will end with Messiah? I think that's a good move. As the books later in the Dune series get rather...weird, too werid in my opinion to warrant movie adaptations. One of Paul's kids turn himself into a sandworm and then later on we get an invading army of female warriors who use orgasm to sexually control men in worlds they occupy (I'm not kidding, that's actually in the later books). That's just too weird to my taste and probably isn't very good movie adaptation material.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1733146117519401435
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 02, 2024, 12:56:26 AMQuote from: Cougerboy on Mar 02, 2024, 12:48:34 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Mar 01, 2024, 03:38:24 PMIm wondering about Dune: Messiah (which now looks like a sure thing), will they be toning down some of the tragic events from that?
Didn't Denis say he will end with Messiah? I think that's a good move. As the books later in the Dune series get rather...weird, too werid in my opinion to warrant movie adaptations. One of Paul's kids turn himself into a sandworm and then later on we get an invading army of female warriors who use orgasm to sexually control men in worlds they occupy (I'm not kidding, that's actually in the later books). That's just too weird to my taste and probably isn't very good movie adaptation material.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1733146117519401435
Yeah I have heard Denis said he plans not to make Messiah immediately after part 2. But my point was that he is planning a trilogy and not more Dune entries (at least not directed by him) after Messiah. Given the strange storylines in the later books, I think that's a good move.
Denis definitely plans on stopping after Messiah, and given his particular sensibilities, I think that's probably the perfect stopping point for him. But I think I'd be all for seeing the series go past that and adapt the rest of Frank Herbert's books with filmmakers that are better suited to the material that the latter entries present. With Raised By Wolves gone, I'm definitely not in a position to turn my head away from incredibly weird, mythic space opera in that vein wherever I can get it.
Anyways, cannot stop thinking about Dune: Part Two. I'm already itching to see it again. Going to try to get IMAX tickets for next weekend. I've started my reread of the novel as well.
Messiah takes place 12 years later, so it makes sense for Denis to make a few other films in between, and the very young-looking actors age a bit.
After Messiah, somebody else could pick up the series, and adapt the craziness that comes later.
Ari Aster's God-Emperor of Dune, just recycling that one effect from Beau is Afraid. :laugh:
My main complaint with #DunePart2 -- there are some action scenes / character interactions that happen with little build up, resistance, or adversity.
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1763972032557945330
My brother had some heavy critiques of this, but I really enjoyed it myself.
Too bad He's not interested in Alien.Denis Villeneuve is the definitive sci-fi director now. You can't go wrong with him. 8)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 02, 2024, 11:36:50 PMToo bad He's not interested in Alien.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1763714951666135175
*Oki-doki* :'(👉👈 i mean fair enough🥀
Who's going to tell him that Dune is Frank Herbert's universe?
https://twitter.com/GermainLussier/status/1764079081119948995
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I mean they basically drink a processed cocktail of their own sweat and pee. Bear Grylls could stand a chance of becoming the Mahdi. :laugh:
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1764109438024323489
Best. Movie. Ever... At least for the past five years or something.
I can't wait to see the weirding modules finally show up.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 03, 2024, 04:04:28 AMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/status/1764109438024323489
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on May 03, 2023, 08:38:13 PMQuote from: kwisatz on May 03, 2023, 08:24:19 PMAlso: could it just be the natural light on Giedi Prime?
Maybe Giedi's sun only gives out infrared light, which is black and white.
The hype is strong on this one. So better than the first part?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 03, 2024, 08:13:56 AMI can't wait to see the weirding modules finally show up.
Hehehehehehehe
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 03, 2024, 01:08:30 AMWho's going to tell him that Dune is Frank Herbert's universe?
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Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 03, 2024, 08:20:08 AMThe hype is strong on this one. So better than the first part?
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For about the first third of the film I was thinking "this is good, but Part One was definitely better", and then the tempo just ramps up and blows it away.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 03, 2024, 12:23:32 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 02, 2024, 11:36:50 PMToo bad He's not interested in Alien.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1763714951666135175
Why? It's one of the best Sci Fi films in recent years. I like it more than the first honestly, has a stronger message IMO. With that and Dune, I know I can't miss anything Sci Fi this man does. Can't wait for Messiah and Rama.
Outstanding opening for sci-fi movie.
QuoteComing in ahead of projections following a strong Saturday, Warner Bros/Legendary Entertainment's Dune: Part Two has stormed to a $178.5M global opening. Of that, $97M is from the international box office.
In like-for-like offshore markets and using today's exchange rates, the film is tracking 76% ahead of 2021's Dune, 79% better than Ready Player One, 96% above Godzilla Vs Kong, 12% behind Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One and 16% below Oppenheimer.
https://deadline.com/2024/03/dune-part-two-opening-weekend-global-international-box-office-1235841795/
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1764437139272441940
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1764398669141528628
So Dune Part 2 earned $81 million over the weekend in the US and a total of US$178.5 million globally. That should increase the chances of Dune Messiah turning into a film, right? Whenever Denis eventually make that one...
He will for sure. He just needs to have a break and do another crazy sci-fi movie in between :)
Can someone explain me why the sequel suddenly becomes a hit when the first one had a lackluster box office run?
Word of mouth plus, people do not like getting invested in something partway through, hence why subtitles are often so much more popular nowadays.
It was also released on HBO Max which was the way I watched it. The first one I mean.
I honestly cannot remember the last time I got pumped for a possible third film. I'm so excited for Messiah.
Quote from: nanison on Mar 04, 2024, 10:49:39 AMCan someone explain me why the sequel suddenly becomes a hit when the first one had a lackluster box office run?
COVID + HBO Max day and date release + word of mouth has only increased over the last 2.5 years. Also worth noting,
Dune was one of the best performing day and date HBO Max releases of 2021, even with the concurrent streaming release. I only saw
Dune once on the big screen in 2021 because I didn't want to risk getting sick on multiple viewings as the holiday season was drawing near, but I watched an additional few times at home on Max after my one theatrical viewing. To contrast, I already have tickets for a second viewing of
Part Two booked.
Anyways...
Spoiler
https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1764373432853221812
We know from earlier comments from Stephen McKinley Henderson that he was excited that he got to work with Austin Butler. My guess is that his scene(s) would have been a departure from the source material and seen him getting executed by Feyd-Rautha, since he's nowhere to be seen in the film's final confrontation where he has a pretty big part to play in the novel (also, most of his ending material has a direct releation to the plot from the earlier half of the book where Jessica is suspected to have been the traitor, but the first movie did away with that plot entirely). Unless he was originally supposed to be there but all of his stuff was cut and he was digitally removed from wide shots...
Dune was the only film I was willing to go to theaters for. Covid ruined movie theaters for me for eternity.
It was also an extremely crowded release month thanks to all the delays.
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1764652789890765064
Gotta say, I enjoyed the first one but was mostly kinda meh on it.
Went to see Part 2 last night with extremely moderate hype, and man...
This one blew me away! I'm all on board the Dune train now!
I wasn't crazy about the first one. I was bored especially the first time I watched it but also on the second time I switched out during the last 30 minutes. The action scenes were also just weird or so?
Overall it felt like a long run in and then it ended
Spoiler
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1764681143058579564
https://twitter.com/Variety/Variety/status/1764745578192195955
https://twitter.com/DuneAwakening/status/1764725450805334396
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1764775402008957178
I'm watching the first remake right now, because my friend recommended it. He said the second one is better and the first needs to set things up, but I didn't realise that meant it would be so tedious. I think I've understood what's going on, but it's slow going so my attention has wandered a fair bit.
Apparently I've watched the first film nine times now, and I can't get enough of it. I love it. Don't find it tedious at all – on the contrary, it always stands out to me every time I watch it just how accessible and easy to revisit it really is. I also wouldn't really say Part Two is better, in the same way that I wouldn't say any installment of The Lord of the Rings trilogy is better than the others; it's all one story, one big (multi-part) film that works best taken as a whole experience.
But I'm also not a person that can be typing or scrolling or doing anything else at all when I'm watching a movie. My brain just can't/won't focus on anything but the screen when I have a movie on. So maybe that's why I'm always so honed in on it/along for the ride with each viewing?
I wouldn't say I found the first one tedious, but I did find it to be a mostly standard seeming sci-fi movie. Amazing visuals and craftsmanship, but just didn't wow me in terms of story or themes. Felt like mostly setup for what's to come.
But Part 2 felt like the further exploration and payoff to everything that I always thought was interesting about Dune's themes and subtext. Plus it just feels grander and amps up the spectacle even more. It blew me away and Dune-pilled me lol. It's made me retroactively like the first part more too.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 04, 2024, 08:25:24 PMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/Variety/status/1764745578192195955
We need him for an Alien film ASAP! Nahh, in Fede Alvarez we trust (for now)
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 05, 2024, 12:22:13 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 04, 2024, 08:25:24 PMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/Variety/status/1764745578192195955
We need him for an Alien film ASAP! Nahh, in Fede Alvarez we trust (for now)
Actually I'm excited by Fede's Alien baby ;D
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 05, 2024, 12:48:14 AMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 05, 2024, 12:22:13 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 04, 2024, 08:25:24 PMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/Variety/status/1764745578192195955
We need him for an Alien film ASAP! Nahh, in Fede Alvarez we trust (for now)
Actually I'm excited by Fede's Alien baby ;D
Me too, I love his work on Evil Dead 2013 and Don't Breathe. I'm already excited and we don't even have nothing of the film, imagine when the trailer comes out
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 04, 2024, 11:40:16 PMApparently I've watched the first film nine times now, and I can't get enough of it.
Couldn't you have watched it eight times and KoH just once instead? :(
Good movie. Reminds me of an Age of Empires² campaign :o
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 05, 2024, 10:42:12 AMGood movie. Reminds me of an Age of Empires² campaign :o
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Don't spoil it for NA! >:(
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 05, 2024, 08:17:37 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 04, 2024, 11:40:16 PMApparently I've watched the first film nine times now, and I can't get enough of it.
Couldn't you have watched it eight times and KoH just once instead? :(
🤫
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 05, 2024, 01:26:30 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 05, 2024, 10:42:12 AMGood movie. Reminds me of an Age of Empires² campaign :o
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Don't spoil it for NA! >:(
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Like your new Inca look Jonesy.
Just came back from the cinema. I generally liked it very much but I have some issues with it. I'm not gonna praise the obvious things like acting (Javier Bardem!), art design, cinematography, special effects and so on. I'm going to focus on things I really didn't like.
I loved the beginning (first act) but then the plot started dragging on (second act) and felt rushed at the end (third act).
Christopher Walken as an Emperor is totally wasted.
Spoiler
He barely talks and doesn't have imperial aura at all.
Gurney killing
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Rabban felt flat.
Chani's character arc
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differs from the book.
Final battle is rushed. It should have been f**king epic but it wasn't.
Final duel is flat.
Generally the very ending is anticlimactic.
Hans Zimmer score is just ok. Nothing special.
8/10
There must be third movie!
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 05, 2024, 02:46:50 PMLike your new Inca look Jonesy.
TY! ☺️
:-X 👉👈The design influences are Asian though
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▶️Kyoshi (https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Kyoshi)
I just had a thought regarding Chani (spoilers for Messiah):
Spoiler
In Part Two, unless I'm reading it wrong, Paul's choice to go south is partly motivated by visions of her death if he uses the atomic weapons directly against the Harkonnens. So if Messiah plays out as it does in the book and Paul chooses the path where she dies, that could potentially be even more of a gut punch.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 05, 2024, 09:23:50 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 05, 2024, 02:46:50 PMLike your new Inca look Jonesy.
TY! ☺️
:-X 👉👈The design influences are Asian though
https://i.ibb.co/XVQ7Y2H/RDT-20240305-1816242923042365417796158.png
▶️Kyoshi (https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Kyoshi)
Ah right, saw a very similar Inca head dress once, symbolizing the sun and of course they really liked gold.
🥺🙏🕊
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1764973695435473103
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 06, 2024, 01:22:58 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 05, 2024, 09:23:50 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 05, 2024, 02:46:50 PMLike your new Inca look Jonesy.
TY! ☺️
:-X 👉👈The design influences are Asian though
https://i.ibb.co/XVQ7Y2H/RDT-20240305-1816242923042365417796158.png
▶️Kyoshi (https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Kyoshi)
Ah right, saw a very similar Inca head dress once, symbolizing the sun and of course they really liked gold.
Indeed there are Inca vibes without a doubt.
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Also the Sun? ;D
Spoiler
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https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1765247788374499512
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 06, 2024, 02:07:36 PM🥺🙏🕊
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1764973695435473103
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 06, 2024, 01:22:58 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 05, 2024, 09:23:50 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 05, 2024, 02:46:50 PMLike your new Inca look Jonesy.
TY! ☺️
:-X 👉👈The design influences are Asian though
https://i.ibb.co/XVQ7Y2H/RDT-20240305-1816242923042365417796158.png
▶️Kyoshi (https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Kyoshi)
Ah right, saw a very similar Inca head dress once, symbolizing the sun and of course they really liked gold.
Indeed there are Inca vibes without a doubt.
(https://i.ibb.co/ypctj0t/5ad756f1f28de2174e1a0793b2f0ae5d-removebg-preview.png)
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Also the Sun? ;D
Spoiler
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Also:
Spoiler
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Saw it for the second time, on Saturday will see it for the third in Imax.
I'm definitely going to see it in IMAX for my next viewing. Hopefully sometime soon.
Dune part 2 is already out?! Oh man, I didn't even know what the release date was.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 06, 2024, 04:35:42 PMhttps://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1765247788374499512
Yeah I have heard of the Metal Gear Solid creator being a big movie buff, but didn't know he was into Dune as well.
Saw it last night. Never seen a film on the big screen so visually epic in scale - it honestly leaves everything I've seen before for dead and that's saying something considering things like the Battle of Pellenor Fields in ROTK. Denis V has taken sci-fi to new heights. I'm still processing it all, to be honest, but the CGI is just so seamless, and so realistic - I can't recall being taken out of the movie at all with any of that uncanny valley feeling.
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The Harkonnen aesthetic is so sick in Part Two.
Looks a bit like the Necromongers from Chronicles of Riddick, which isn't a bad thing.
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 07, 2024, 03:48:42 PMLooks a bit like the Necromongers from Chronicles of Riddick, which isn't a bad thing.
There were a few aesthetic things that made me think of Chronicles of Riddick as well. Need to give that one a revisit.
Aye, along with 40K, Dune definitely seems to be one of the primary influences that Chronicles was drawing from. Denis spun things in a pretty significantly different direction than what Twohy did, but you can tell that a shared pool of influences runs deep through both movies.
QuoteBox Office: 'Dune: Part Two' Makes Major Gains With Younger Adults
The first time, only 34 percent of the sci-fi film's opening weekend audience were between ages 18 and 35, Hollywood's sweet spot. For the sequel, that stat was nearly 50 percent.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/box-office-dune-part-two-younger-adults-audience-1235842993/
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1765869301674688544
I just ordered this beauty.
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Going to watch it again next week.
Is there an after credits scene?
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 08, 2024, 04:06:15 PMIs there an after credits scene?
No.
https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1766168253955719257
A healthy understandable approach.
I'm not even sure if Denis is really the right fit for the post-Messiah books, anyways. Maybe certain elements of Children...
As good as his adaptation of Dune is, I wouldn't want to constrict his talents to just Dune over the next few years either.
Yeah, you'd need a real crazy bastard to pull off anything from God-Emperor on.
I do hope Children happens, though. Since it's the last time most of this cast will appear.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 08, 2024, 10:50:33 PMSince it's the last time most of this cast will appear.
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Sounds like Lynch would be a good fit for the sequels.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 08, 2024, 10:59:24 PMQuote from: KiramidHead on Mar 08, 2024, 10:50:33 PMSince it's the last time most of this cast will appear.
https://media.tenor.com/KW-VwwDb05IAAAAM/jason-momoa.gif
He is a canon event.
Probably the best review I've seen in years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPOsoph3TCY
https://twitter.com/fasc1nate/status/1766434061382279214
The definitive Paul Atreides. 8)
Meanwhile the definitive Baron was in the SyFy version.
Haven't seen tv series. Any good?
The first miniseries is decent but the lack of budget is very apparent. The Children of Dune miniseries is overall much better.
If only Denis had enough budget to make tv series on the same scale as the movies. Imagine.
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 10, 2024, 01:26:47 AMIf only Denis had enough budget to make tv series on the same scale as the movies. Imagine.
I don't think Denis really has an interest in TV, based on the trajectory of his career thus far (and some comments that have come out of his mouth during
Dune: Part Two's press tour).
He was attached very very briefly to direct the pilot episode of the upcoming
Dune: Prophecy (then "Dune: The Sisterhood") when that was first announced a few years back, but that didn't last very long (and there's been a million and a half creative shakeups with that show since then as well).
In a recent interview, when asked about
Prophecy, he seemed very adamant that he sees it as something separate from his own vision for this world (despite the fact that Warner Bros/Legendary/the people actually making the show surely see it as an in-continuity prequel to his films).
How much must Dune part 2 make to break even? I heard some media reports are throwing figures like 500 million. Any other estimates?
If the budget was around $200m that's the conventional wisdom (2.5x budget to break even).
Really it's impossible to know with how Studio accounting works.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 10, 2024, 09:49:18 AMIf the budget was around $200m that's the conventional wisdom (2.5x budget to break even).
Really it's impossible to know with how Studio accounting works.
Hehehe. That reminds me of the wonders of "Hollywood accounting", where studios use "creative" accounting techniques to make a movie that made a profit to turn it into a loss on paper (so as not to pay taxes or royalties), or to deprive partners of profit-sharing ventures their due. But I digress. Hopefully Dune Part 2 should earn enough for profit for Legendary and Warner, any "creative" accounting notwithstanding.
I only care how much it makes in that I want it to make enough to warrant Dune: Messiah getting the green light if/when Denis is ready to adapt that book.
Beyond that, the money isn't lining my pockets. Out of sight, out of mind.
I'm going to see it in IMAX for a second time in a little over an hour and, with the exception of the very front row, the theater is totally booked. This is exactly how it was over a week ago on opening night as well. Seems like it has real staying power right now (on the premium screens, at least).
I'm predicting 600-700 million box office.
QuoteAlthough "Dune: Part Two" relinquished its box office crown to "Panda," the sci-fi sequel had another strong outing with $46 million from 4,074 venues. It marks a 44% decline in ticket sales from its debut (an impressive hold for a blockbuster of this scale) and brings the film's North American total to $157 million.
After 10 days on the big screen, "Dune 2" surpassed the entire domestic tally of the first film ($108 million), although that milestone comes with a major caveat. The original 2021 film was released simultaneously in theaters and on HBO Max, so its ticket sales were stifled by the hybrid release on streaming.
https://variety.com/2024/film/box-office/box-office-kung-fu-panda-4-leads-dune-surpasses-milestone-1235936650/
Just came out of the Imax, begging anyone who has not seen it yet to go do so.
I'm looking forward to watching it on my new smartphone.
You mean, on your
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I hear that's the hip way to see movies when not playing Fortnite or watching TikTok.
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Local's having a midlife crisis. :P
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 10, 2024, 07:21:29 PMI hear that's the hip way to see movies when not playing Fortnite or watching TikTok.
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Oh look, it's Jigsaw
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 10, 2024, 07:12:36 PMI'm looking forward to watching it on my new smartphone.
GO TO THE CINEMA! (using the Voice)
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https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1766716262556549611
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 10, 2024, 07:12:36 PMI'm looking forward to watching it on my new smartphone.
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This was even better the second time. What an astounding achievement.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 10, 2024, 01:09:37 PMI only care how much it makes in that I want it to make enough to warrant Dune: Messiah getting the green light if/when Denis is ready to adapt that book.
Hehe, isn't that the whole point for discussing the box office of Dune?
Saw it in theaters last Wednesday and what an awesome cinematic experience. Would love to catch it in theaters again if time allows.
https://twitter.com/heyitsMattCaron/status/1767255966385639750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbaYiWE3Ttk
daaat atmosphere
Quote from: kwisatz on Mar 11, 2024, 06:38:09 PMdaaat atmosphere
My biggest problem with Lynch's
Dune is just how off the rails it gets at it blows through the whole back half of the book in like, 40 minutes. With more moments like this to really slow the movie down and let it live in that part of the story a bit, a lot of the issues I have there could have been alleviated.
Granted that wouldn't change how much the movie's ending fundamentally just doesn't seem to get/care about the book's core ideas but, whatever, no fixing that!
I still really like revisiting Lynch's
Dune from time to time. Mostly just because of how much I adore the look of the movie. Who cares if a movie's moment-to-moment structure is totally messy and nonsensical when it looks like that!?!?!
i've seen a fan edit that restores much of the deleted stuff in the back half.. it's...
oof. still not good.
"Your name shall become a killing word" is made so painfully literal it's like a nine-year-old wrote that bit.
Sure does look neat, though! :laugh:
I do think him sundering the ground and Sting's corpse with the voice's metal as f**k tho.
That's my favourite part of the film. f**king rips his chest open. Rad.
Knife blade in his throat and his eyes fade to white
Maybe even Lynch's approach on at least implicating Paul's problematic nature at the very end.
I know some of the drafts that exist have a much more faithful ending without the rain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbaYiWE3Ttkhttps://twitter.com/leejkeller/status/1767381295296823598
Why is this thread still called "Dune Remake" when it was never a remake in the first place?
It should be re-titled to:
THE ⊃∪∩⪽ TRILOGY
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Hallelck?
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https://twitter.com/wyliecovfx/status/1767310698332520513
https://twitter.com/WarnerBrosUK/status/1767642982004707762
Speaking of which, I just finally got the first film's "Art and Soul" art book today.
Nice one. I'm still waiting for mine, but it's part 2.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 12, 2024, 08:48:36 PMSpeaking of which, I just finally got the first film's "Art and Soul" art book today.
Jealous
Carlos Huante Dune work (sorry, none of his Guild Navigator pieces are in here): https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Alx29z
So the white-robed dudes were not Navigators?
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 13, 2024, 01:17:37 PMSo the white-robed dudes were not Navigators?
They were with the Spacing Guild (and presumably the interior of those helmets they were wearing must have been filled with spice), but they were not Guild Navigators proper, no.
Yeah, the humanoid Guildsmen are "representatives" of the Spacing Guild. They also appear humanoid in the book. In Messiah, we read about the actual navigators for the first time, the fish-like creatures floating in spice tanks.
Yeah, the Daft Punk looking guys in Part 1 are just reps.
I do remember the fish-guys from Lynch's Dune.
Also seemed like good plot economics to make the "Guild arrives" scene already on Arrakis, and drop the Artreides planet altogether.
Unlike that other dodgy poseur on here, Nightmare Asylum is the true Kwisatz Haderach.
He foresaw the return.
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:53:26 PMUnlike that other dodgy poseur on here, Nightmare Asylum is the true Kwisatz Haderach.
I guess I'm just kwisatz after all
Well, that's you nick :P
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 13, 2024, 06:53:26 PMNightmare Asylum is the true Kwisatz Haderach.
Only Alicia Witt can make that call.
Some folks who watched (or just read) Dune, also are discovering "Lawrence of Arabia" through Dune. You can see the clear influence. Dune is in many ways a sci-fi version of Lawrence of Arabia, as that original autobiography by T.E Lawrence, "Seven Pillars of Wisdom", and the 1962 David Lean classic movie "Lawrence of Arabia" hugely influenced Frank Hebert. You can see the similarity, you have an outsider, arguably associated with a colonial power, coming in, and instead of occupying them, becomes disillusioned with the colonial enterprise, fight for their cause and even lead them to liberation...but with unpredictable results. (The real-life story of Lawrence took place around WW1, much of the Middle East at the time was governed by the Ottoman Empire, and Lawrence allied himself with Arab tribes to try and overthrow the Empire's hold on the region.) The desert terrain of Arrakis and the terms used by the Fremen are influenced by Arabic culture. Swap "spice" for "oil" and the analogy to the Middle East becomes even more precise.
https://twitter.com/DuneInfo/status/1768952688182427851
Going to see this later today, but on a regular (non IMAX) screen.
Nice.
They are probably trying to capitalize on the Dune Part 2 current hype.
I've been rereading the novel and I forgot just how good the interplay between Hawat and Jessica is regarding Hawat's "knowledge" of Jessica's perceived betrayal, prior to Yueh's actual betrayal/the Harkonnen attack.
Just came from the screening, was better than the first and great overall.
Only gripe is that most of the battles felt too one-sided, the good guys were using like 3 different WMD-s at the same time at one point.
I didn't care for this adaption myself. I actually prefer the first part. Im a big fan of the book, read it a lot as a kid. I also liked the 2000 scifi channel adaption oddly enough. But DV's take is missing something for me. For one the world is not fleshed out at all aside from clues and a touch of exposition. I understand that much of the extraneous universe buidling is not needed to progress the story but damn, it makes the cultures and worlds feel richer in the other adaptions. I think they could have cut some of the reaction shots alone and included material helping to explain the mentats, spacing guild, or the other houses and their history. Should have shown more spice consumption and other ways its used. As it is its a few shots of sparkling cinnimon. And finally Paul's romance with Chani is cold as ice, i didn't feel anything for their love story. I don't mind the changes but emotionally I felt nothing for their relationship. But that's just me, beautiful well made films that don't land for me personally.
Also I never warmed to the kid playing Paul, just couldn't.
Harkonnen's were great 👍
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1771119629970120912
That's the spirit.
Also, movie passed $500 million at global box office.
Dune Messiah is better than Dune so he's off to a good start, at least.
Is it better? :o
I think so.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 22, 2024, 04:47:42 PMI think so.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't when I read it years ago. I'm reading first book again at the moment and then Messiah so I'm curious if my opinion will change.
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 22, 2024, 12:13:00 PMThat's the spirit.
Also, movie passed $500 million at global box office.
So it's officially not lost money and made a profit, great, part 3 is almost certain IMO. I'll wait as long as we need to, but Deni with this has shown that he's the best Sci Fi director out there right now, to me at least.
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 22, 2024, 11:16:07 PMQuote from: KiramidHead on Mar 22, 2024, 04:47:42 PMI think so.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't when I read it years ago. I'm reading first book again at the moment and then Messiah so I'm curious if my opinion will change.
To be fair my opinion isn't a common one. I just find myself preferring the smaller, more character focused story of Messiah. And it has the Tleilaxu, who are the most interesting of the Dune factions to me.
When I first read Messiah, I took it as more of an epilogue to the first book – they feel pretty inseparable in the way, and as a result I can see why Denis is interested in those two books with the intent to stop after telling that "complete" story.
Children of Dune feels more like a full fledged sequel (though overall I think Messiah is better than Children, from what I remember).
I'm about halfway through my Dune reread now, with the intention of rereading Messiah and Children after that. Can't wait to revisit them. Then after that, it'll be onto the latter three books for the very first time, which I'm also incredibly excited for. I know what the latter ones are about in broad strokes (especially God Emperor), but I can't wait to finally experience them in full first hand.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 23, 2024, 03:41:10 AMI'm about halfway through my Dune reread now, with the intention of rereading Messiah and Children after that. Can't wait to revisit them.
I'm doing exactly the same right now, except I've never read
Children.
Quote from: Still Collating... on Mar 23, 2024, 12:07:08 AMQuote from: Ingwar on Mar 22, 2024, 12:13:00 PMThat's the spirit.
Also, movie passed $500 million at global box office.
So it's officially not lost money and made a profit, great, part 3 is almost certain IMO. I'll wait as long as we need to, but Deni with this has shown that he's the best Sci Fi director out there right now, to me at least.
It should pass 600 million eventually.
https://twitter.com/Collider/status/1772247918449217702
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 23, 2024, 03:41:10 AMWhen I first read Messiah, I took it as more of an epilogue to the first book – they feel pretty inseparable in the way, and as a result I can see why Denis is interested in those two books with the intent to stop after telling that "complete" story.
Children of Dune feels more like a full fledged sequel (though overall I think Messiah is better than Children, from what I remember).
I'm about halfway through my Dune reread now, with the intention of rereading Messiah and Children after that. Can't wait to revisit them. Then after that, it'll be onto the latter three books for the very first time, which I'm also incredibly excited for. I know what the latter ones are about in broad strokes (especially God Emperor), but I can't wait to finally experience them in full first hand.
For someone who has not read Dune, would you recommend Messiah and Children of Dune with the original Dune as a trilogy? I have bern rather intimidated by how many books there are, but if I could start just thinking of it as a trilogy that would help.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 25, 2024, 06:38:48 PMhttps://twitter.com/Collider/status/1772247918449217702
Messiah officially green-lit then.
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 05:35:08 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 23, 2024, 03:41:10 AMWhen I first read Messiah, I took it as more of an epilogue to the first book – they feel pretty inseparable in the way, and as a result I can see why Denis is interested in those two books with the intent to stop after telling that "complete" story.
Children of Dune feels more like a full fledged sequel (though overall I think Messiah is better than Children, from what I remember).
I'm about halfway through my Dune reread now, with the intention of rereading Messiah and Children after that. Can't wait to revisit them. Then after that, it'll be onto the latter three books for the very first time, which I'm also incredibly excited for. I know what the latter ones are about in broad strokes (especially God Emperor), but I can't wait to finally experience them in full first hand.
For someone who has not read Dune, would you recommend Messiah and Children of Dune with the original Dune as a trilogy? I have bern rather intimidated by how many books there are, but if I could start just thinking of it as a trilogy that would help.
If a stopping point is what you're looking for,
Messiah would even be a good one, honestly.
Messiah functions mostly as an epilogue to
Dune, to put a bow on that package and make sure that all of its themes get across to the reader. After that, if you want to continue, I guess take it on a book-by-book basis.
Also, went to see
Part Two a third (and likely final) time last night. The IMAX screen is about to transfer over to
Godzilla x Kong later this week, and I wanted to make sure I was able to get one last viewing of
Dune: Part Two in in that format before it is gone, especially since we're unlikely to see the expanded aspect ratio make its way onto the home release.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1772994560479649881
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I saw Part 2 in Dolby for my first time, so I had to go back and see in IMAX before it leaves theaters. 100% worth it, and still amazing.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1774712806127931531
https://twitter.com/EW/status/1775509308467204111
No cat-milking either? Jesus, did this movie get anything right?? >:(
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 03, 2024, 07:23:45 PMNo cat-milking either? Jesus, did this movie get anything right?? >:(
I'm on the chapter all about the Weirding Modules now in my reread of the book!
https://twitter.com/inversedotcom/status/1774450656968913203
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 03, 2024, 07:27:39 PMI'm on the chapter all about the Weirding Modules now in my reread of the book!
I love all the descriptions of the Baron flying around rooms!
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 03, 2024, 11:56:05 PMhttps://twitter.com/inversedotcom/status/1774450656968913203
I've got the Ford & Greenhut treatment but I've never seen the Pallenberg one. I'd love to read it since Pallenberg's adaptations tend to be unorthodox to say the least.
This excerpt from Deadline's article announcing Denis Villeneuve's
Nuclear War: A Scenario makes it sound like a
Dune: Messiah adaptation is going to be Villeneuve's next film:
QuoteThe expectation is that Villeneuve would take this one as another giant project after he completes Dune: Messiah, which he and Legendary are developing as the conclusion of the trilogy.
https://deadline.com/2024/04/nuclear-war-movie-denis-villeneuve-legendary-dune-part-two-bestselling-book-1235876114/
This shocks me, if true, given the way he's been talking lately. All his
Dune: Part Two press interviews have made it seem like he wants to take a break before jumping back into this world, with either
Cleopatra or
Rendezvous with Rama coming next.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1776244146677678195
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1775986079226528197
Would be cool if MacLachlan played Scytale in the next movie. With the Mr. C mullet. :laugh:
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1776355693408264408
https://twitter.com/dunemovie/status/1777374841903145275
Hope they're extending it in Europe as well...i planned a 4th watch ^^
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1777756694166024302
Quote"Dune: Part Two" is barreling to streaming. The epic sci-fi sequel, starring Timothée Chalamet and Zendaya, will become available to rent and purchase on digital starting Apr. 16, and will release on 4K UHD, Blu-ray and DVD on May 14.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 09, 2024, 06:00:44 PMhttps://twitter.com/Variety/status/1777756694166024302
Quote"Dune: Part Two" is barreling to streaming. The epic sci-fi sequel, starring Timothée Chalamet and Zendaya, will become available to rent and purchase on digital starting Apr. 16, and will release on 4K UHD, Blu-ray and DVD on May 14.
No IMAX Ratio on those home releases though.
Yep. Just like the first one. :-\
Glad I saw it there times in IMAX, 'cause I'm probably never gonna get to see it in that format again.
QuoteThou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVd1hPewcCw
His take is a bit much...
I love Dune 1 and 2, and anyone who is paying attention knows that it rightfully shows the dangers of a rising Messianic figure, just as the author intended. Frank Herbert through fiction showed an interesting take on how religion, strongman and wars are interconnected and cyclical. But to say that he didn't have some problematic views (and creative decisions... Duncan...) would be an understatement. :laugh:
Herbert had problematic views?
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 10, 2024, 11:29:24 PMHerbert had problematic views?
Was somewhat homophobic, yes (and for some f**ked up reason wired his kids to lie detectors regularly). Still, he made a sci fi classic that inspired millions and spawned so many new worlds and stories. But that doesn't make him a super special prophet or too ahead of his time. Nor does he say anything in his books that hasn't been said a million times before by others. He just did it better and made it more impactful which is important in itself.
"Somewhat homophobic" is a polite way of saying disowned his gay son for being gay.
https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1780186611742859584
I'm starting to think that everything that appealed to me about Dune is what David Lynch turned it into. Stripped of the baroque aesthetic that gave it such a unique look in 1984, it's just so bland.
Maybe Villeneuve isn't my cup of tea.
I love Villeneuve as a director but his aesthetic is just so, so reserved.
Where's my half-naked twink fight to the death at the finale? Feyd's supposed to be dressed in nothing but his booby-trapped underwear.
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https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1781010948679176541
https://twitter.com/ThePlaylistNews/status/1782438970669797741
Considering Jessica isn't even in the book, I'd imagine so. :laugh:
Just watched Dune Part II at home. Still amazing. Pretty much the best film of the year.
Now, Dune: Messiah.. I've been going back and forth with that on how they're gonna pull it off because the whole is essentially a soap opera. Still excited, nonetheless.
I want my God Emperor tho.