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Title: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 28, 2023, 06:42:07 PM
QuoteAfter working with Noah Hawley on the fifth season of his Emmy-winning drama Fargo, which just debuted last week, David Rysdahl has solidified his place in his FX family with a series regular role in his Alien prequel series, Deadline can exclusively reveal.

Details as to his character are under wraps. But Rysdahl joins a cast that includes Sydney Chandler as the meta-human Wendy, Alex Lawther as soldier CJ, Samuel Blenkin as Boy Kavalier, a CEO, Essie Davis as Dame Silvia, Adarsh Gourav as Slightly, and Kit Young as Tootles. Announced as joining prior to Rysdahl was Timothy Olyphant, and while his role has not been confirmed, Deadline hears he'll be playing Kirsh, a synth who acts as a mentor and trainer for Wendy, a character with the body of an adult, but the brain and consciousness of a child.

The new Alien series, exec produced by Ridley Scott, is set in a time period before Sigourney Weaver's Ripley and is the first story in the franchise that takes place on Earth, roughly 70 years in the future. Production began in Thailand July 19, four days after the start of the actors strike, continuing for more than a month thereafter, only with members of the cast affiliated with British trade union Equity. All scripts had been completed prior to the May kickoff of the WGA strike, and production is expected to resume in Bangkok as soon as January.

Over the summer, Rysdahl was seen portraying Los Alamos chemist Donald Hornig in Christopher Nolan's historical epic Oppenheimer, which grossed over $950 million worldwide. Prior to that, he starred alongside Havana Rose Liu in the 20th/Hulu thriller No Exit, and in Edson Oda's Sundance prize winner Nine Days, released by Sony Pictures Classics. Additional TV credits for the actor include Black Mirror and The Family for Netflix, and Bull on CBS. The up-and-comer is repped by WME, Entertainment 360, and Granderson Des Rochers.

https://deadline.com/2023/11/alien-david-rysdahl-joins-noah-hawley-fx-series-1235640308/
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Mr. J on Nov 28, 2023, 10:42:01 PM
Maybe next meta human child  ;D Alien deserved better
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Enjoy on Nov 29, 2023, 03:18:13 AM
Now get matt damon and ben afflec as military with pulse rifles
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Nov 29, 2023, 07:05:54 AM
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Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 29, 2023, 08:41:32 AM
I'm not too familiar with this actor but it's nice to see us starting to get more news about the series.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 29, 2023, 03:37:36 PM
QuoteWendy, a character with the body of an adult, but the brain and consciousness of a child.

Uh

Uh what.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 29, 2023, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 29, 2023, 03:37:36 PM
QuoteWendy, a character with the body of an adult, but the brain and consciousness of a child.

Uh

Uh what.

Yep. The show centers around Wendy (and other children) who are part of an experiment being done by the Prodigy Corporation, in which these children's consciousnesses are being transferred into synthetic bodies (and with names like Wendy and Tootles floating about, it seems to be playing on the idea of the Lost Boys never growing old in Peter Pan).

Slight spoilery details from the leaked concept art:

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We know a Weyland-Yutani ship, the Maginot, crashes into Prodigy City with a cargo of Alien eggs/specimens, and another art piece depicts Wendy wielding swords about to engage in battle with Aliens. We don't any idea yet what the exact correlation (if any) between the Aliens and this "Lost Boys" synthetic project Prodigy may be, however.
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Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Xenomrph on Nov 29, 2023, 03:52:09 PM
Wow damn that sounds a little stupid.

Also while occasional movies like 'Big' have pulled it off, "literal child in the body of an adult" is a bit of an ethical and creative minefield that I'm always wary of seeing it tackled and I'm not thrilled about seeing it in an Alien project.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Local Trouble on Nov 29, 2023, 04:03:50 PM
I always thought Alien needed a Shazam-like character.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 29, 2023, 04:05:18 PM
Regarding the ethics of the concept (or rather, the lack thereof), I'd imagine that this is something the show is going to tackle head on – the idea of a corporation stripping away agency and autonomy from these children, for whatever their reasoning may be, definitely isn't going to be shed in any sort of positive light.

As for the actual execution of the ideas, jury is obviously still out on that one.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Eal on Nov 29, 2023, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 29, 2023, 03:37:36 PM
QuoteWendy, a character with the body of an adult, but the brain and consciousness of a child.

Uh

Uh what.

Likely a disabled or neurodivergent character relying on AI and computers to navigate through normally indecipherable organizational and social situations. Either that or a disabled person using a 'Wendy' model droid as an avatar, ala Blue.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 29, 2023, 05:06:20 PM
Quote from: Eal on Nov 29, 2023, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 29, 2023, 03:37:36 PM
QuoteWendy, a character with the body of an adult, but the brain and consciousness of a child.

Uh

Uh what.

Likely a disabled or neurodivergent character relying on AI and computers to navigate through normally indecipherable organizational and social situations. Either that or a disabled person using a 'Wendy' model droid as an avatar, ala Blue.

I'm expecting something more sinister than that to be at play, honestly. Maybe outwardly Prodigy might be presenting this innovation as something to help individuals with disabilities, but I think behind closed doors we're going to be seeing something much more nefarious going on with these children in synth bodies.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Eal on Nov 29, 2023, 05:56:05 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 29, 2023, 05:06:20 PM
Quote from: Eal on Nov 29, 2023, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 29, 2023, 03:37:36 PM
QuoteWendy, a character with the body of an adult, but the brain and consciousness of a child.

Uh

Uh what.

Likely a disabled or neurodivergent character relying on AI and computers to navigate through normally indecipherable organizational and social situations. Either that or a disabled person using a 'Wendy' model droid as an avatar, ala Blue.

I'm expecting something more sinister than that to be at play, honestly. Maybe outwardly Prodigy might be presenting this innovation as something to help individuals with disabilities, but I think behind closed doors we're going to be seeing something much more nefarious going on with these children in synth bodies.

Probably...probably. This is the corporate dystopia of Alien we're talking about.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: oduodu on Nov 29, 2023, 06:13:50 PM
ah ...transhumanism
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: RIP77 on Nov 29, 2023, 06:20:32 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 29, 2023, 03:52:09 PMWow damn that sounds a little stupid.

Also while occasional movies like 'Big' have pulled it off, "literal child in the body of an adult" is a bit of an ethical and creative minefield that I'm always wary of seeing it tackled and I'm not thrilled about seeing it in an Alien project.


This year  Emma Stone in  Poor Things for example. Movie of year and very creative.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/poor_things (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/poor_things)




These types of characters were normal in Noah's previous series, LEGION.

-Dan Stevens: A mutant who was diagnosed with schizophrenia at a young age.

-Rachel Keller:

 She does not let anyone physically touch her because by doing so, her mind is swapped with the mind of the person she touches.


-Bill Irwin: A "geek scientist", one of the therapist Bird's specialists.He and Kerry live together in the same body, and can separate at will. Hawley sought out Irwin for his "playful approach to the characters."

-Amber Midthunder: A savant with a "childlike sense of wonder", one of Therapist Bird's specialists.� She maintains a younger appearance than Cary as she only ages when their bodies are separated.

Wendy is  like  Noah style and  this is  an author. Style Noah  within the Alien universe. So it's natural that , he explore those kinds of sci-fi personalities in Alien. 

Is clear that it is a risky Alien series but after more than 30 years sometimes you have jump into the pool... is good. Prometheus is  more Blade Runner than others movies ALIEN . I think than this serie is more Alita, Blade Runner, Ghost in the shell but is Alien in style too. And in 8 hours is a complete styles and tematic  general sfci and Alien/terror. In movie only 2 hours is different.

And even more so when Fede's movie, which is supposed to be more conservative, is released a year before.





Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 29, 2023, 06:22:32 PM
Quote from: oduodu on Nov 29, 2023, 06:13:50 PMah ...transhumanism

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Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 29, 2023, 10:33:28 PM
Quote from: RIP77 on Nov 29, 2023, 06:20:32 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 29, 2023, 03:52:09 PMWow damn that sounds a little stupid.

Also while occasional movies like 'Big' have pulled it off, "literal child in the body of an adult" is a bit of an ethical and creative minefield that I'm always wary of seeing it tackled and I'm not thrilled about seeing it in an Alien project.


This year  Emma Stone in  Poor Things for example. Movie of year and very creative.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/poor_things (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/poor_things)




These types of characters were normal in Noah's previous series, LEGION.

-Dan Stevens: A mutant who was diagnosed with schizophrenia at a young age.

-Rachel Keller:

 She does not let anyone physically touch her because by doing so, her mind is swapped with the mind of the person she touches.


-Bill Irwin: A "geek scientist", one of the therapist Bird's specialists.He and Kerry live together in the same body, and can separate at will. Hawley sought out Irwin for his "playful approach to the characters."

-Amber Midthunder: A savant with a "childlike sense of wonder", one of Therapist Bird's specialists.� She maintains a younger appearance than Cary as she only ages when their bodies are separated.

Wendy is  like  Noah style and  this is  an author. Style Noah  within the Alien universe. So it's natural that , he explore those kinds of sci-fi personalities in Alien. 

Is clear that it is a risky Alien series but after more than 30 years sometimes you have jump into the pool... is good. Prometheus is  more Blade Runner than others movies ALIEN . I think than this serie is more Alita, Blade Runner, Ghost in the shell but is Alien in style too. And in 8 hours is a complete styles and tematic  general sfci and Alien/terror. In movie only 2 hours is different.

And even more so when Fede's movie, which is supposed to be more conservative, is released a year before.

Qft
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Gimitko on Dec 07, 2023, 08:40:17 AM
Rysdahl talks about being cast in the series

Well, Noah Hawley clearly likes being in the David Rysdahl business, as he also cast you in his upcoming Alien series. Was this in the works, pre-strike?

Yeah, I went over to Thailand for one day of camera tests, and then things shut down. Noah told me after we wrapped on Fargo. He said, "There might be a role for you on Alien," and I grew up on both Alien and Fargo. So if you had told me two years ago that I was going to be in either universe, I would've thought you were crazy, and the idea that I get to play on both playgrounds makes me feel pretty lucky and grateful. And Noah, in a similar fashion to Fargo, takes the movie and asks, "What's the DNA of this? What's the world perspective? What themes are we tackling? What was the original intent of this movie? Let me see if I can play with that in a new way." So he's doing a really interesting job of that on Alien, and it's going to be a very different but very exciting view of what the original movie was.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: SiL on Dec 07, 2023, 09:30:22 AM
The original intent of the first movie was to scare people and not be pretentious. Ronald Shusette was quite impassioned about the latter.

They've already failed.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Dec 07, 2023, 10:00:54 AM
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Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Local Trouble on Dec 07, 2023, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 07, 2023, 09:30:22 AMThe original intent of the first movie was to scare people and not be pretentious. Ronald Shusette was quite impassioned about the latter.

Ridley could have used that perspective when he made the prequels.  Now it's in vogue and we're about to see it reach its peak with this series.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 07, 2023, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 07, 2023, 09:30:22 AMThe original intent of the first movie was to scare people and not be pretentious. Ronald Shusette was quite impassioned about the latter.

They've already failed.

Who has failed?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 08, 2023, 07:25:30 AM
They haven't even begun filming in earnest and it's already "failed".
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: SiL on Dec 08, 2023, 08:06:13 AM
If the goal is to grasp the intent of the first film and they're honing in on pretentious transhumanism themes and cringy "let's put little girls in adult bodies" tropes, then yeah, they've failed in that regard.

Whether they make something good, however, remains to be seen.

I have about as many f**ks to give as Sir Scott himself does when it comes to tempering my reactions to this project. Not a word of it sounds any good. I'll be glad to be proved wrong, but until then, my expectations are in the pits.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Dec 08, 2023, 10:10:10 AM
But Noah said the intent was to play with it in a new way. He said it was going to be "very different" to the first film.

Alvarez's film is obviously following the more traditional route but this guy is taking it in a completely new direction.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Dec 08, 2023, 10:20:29 AM
Hmm this is curious, neat to hear his description of bei mg involved. With this TV show much like subsequent Alein sequel/spin off material it's bit of a challenge because fans may get annoyed, that if it attempts to try its own thing given a new concept, theme and tone they'll complain if it's too different, but if it plays it safe and just repeats cues, tropes, cliches character and archetypes they complain it's too much of the same.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley’s ‘Alien’ Adds David Rysdahl
Post by: Ingwar on Dec 08, 2023, 01:48:03 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 08, 2023, 07:25:30 AMThey haven't even begun filming in earnest and it's already "failed".

Some people prefer to be negative than positive.